Ti is better yeah
#technology
quick locust
digital sierra
much better?
quick locust
Less vram but quite a bit faster
digital sierra
or just a bit
digital sierra
Less vram but quite a bit faster
idk what vram is but aight
quick locust
Dedicated gpus have their own ram
quick locust
3060 ti has 8GB
digital sierra
3060 ti has 8GB
hmmm
tired notch
honestly i think in the future when direct storage becomes more of a norm having stupid amounts of gpu wont be a thing
quick locust
Which is decent ish enough for it
tired notch
i personally have no issues with 10gb of vram playing at 1440p
digital sierra
what pc game
tired notch
what pc game
forspoken
digital sierra
oh
tired notch
load times are in the 1 second or even sub second
digital sierra
even bf 2042 got 51
quick locust
But its the first game with directstoeage
digital sierra
Dialogue and story sucks
ic
digital sierra
But its the first game with directstoeage
thats quite a feat
tired notch
what went wrong
dialoguge sucks, story pacing is garbage and inconsistent, the only good thing the game has is the combat is amazing
quick locust
There was another game with DirectStorage announced but forgot which
small zinc
Man. Amazon Web Services is finnicky....Pain in the ass.
digital sierra
dialoguge sucks, story pacing is garbage and inconsistent, the only good thing t...
oh
small zinc
Not a fan of the AWS management console
digital sierra
is it wrong if i cry when i play bf1 sometimes
tired notch
u know whats crazy forspoken might be the perfect game to showcase directstorage
digital sierra
unrelated ik
digital sierra
u know whats crazy forspoken might be the perfect game to showcase directstorage
but it went wrong so idk
tired notch
since u run through the map at ridiculous speeds it needs to load the map as u go
quick locust
Well we'll see more games with it soon
digital sierra
Well we'll see more games with it soon
idk does genshin with directstorage seems like a good idea?
shit loads horribly imo
bc
yknow
genshin
digital sierra
shit loads horribly imo
my gaming laptop loads it quite fast tbh
but still kinda slow
tired notch
it was originally a mobile game
quick locust
I dunno if they have any plans for it
digital sierra
it was originally a mobile game
what
tired notch
so its not a surprise
quick locust
/shrug haven't played it
digital sierra
phone becomes a microwave
quick locust
Phone becomes note 7
digital sierra
its an expensive game
for gambling addicts
digital sierra
nice waifus tho
least anime addicted fucker from indonesia
digital sierra
i persoanlly dont play genshin
i played genshin for a while
idk its just
its nice
quick locust
Switch chat if its not tech related
digital sierra
but the moment i ran out of archon quests
digital sierra
Switch chat if its not tech related
alright
tired notch
i personally think tof has a better lookign map
less borring
and it feels less like a ripoff of legend of zelda
ofc this game has that aspect too
that temple looks a lot like the one in legend of zelda lol
digital sierra
and it feels less like a ripoff of legend of zelda
hmmm
thats tof?
though it was genshin idk
tired notch
yea
tired notch
it has a way bigger map
digital sierra
like you let tarkov and genshin breed
digital sierra
it has a way bigger map
nice
tired notch
i mean tof has a proper city tho
digital sierra
i mean tof has a proper city tho
yeah
tired notch
also for some reason it has rtx lol
idk why it needs rtx
do cell shader games even work with rtx
digital sierra
no clue
imma go grind battlefield 1 easter eggs
gotta get that sweet sweet pisskeeper
pale quartz
controllers always have a penalty because it's wireless
pale quartz
honestly i think in the future when direct storage becomes more of a norm having...
it will be mandatory, rather than not, budget GPUs suffer more
the DS stack in terms of end game rasterisation doesn't change, you're still going to need a lot of pure performance
there's 2 games which use it currently, diablo 4 is the second
small zinc
Forspoken is pretty underrated.
Got lukewarm reviews, but is pretty much better than shitty Hogwarts
Combat is infinitely more satisfying anyway
digital sierra
controllers always have a penalty because it's wireless
wireless things are overrated
wireless earphones? too much delay
wireless mouse? either too much delay or a lot of times doesnt register shit
wireless keyboard? youre simply fucked up
small zinc
<:pepestarege:1067507344679915590>
Hogwarts is severely overrated.
Like. Badly
lol
It's not a bad game. Just not a good game.
toxic wigeon
There's less of a delay nowadays with wireless tech at least.
It'll always exist but it's not as bad as I remembered.
quick locust
I've kept to all wired still
prime jasper
wireless mouse? either too much delay or a lot of times doesnt register shit
Not true, ive used g pro superlight for like year now and never had any issues with the connection or delay
People probably plug the receiver into back of their pc and not use the extension cable then complain the connection is bad
digital sierra
Not true, ive used g pro superlight for like year now and never had any issues w...
tbh yeah wireless mouse have less issues for me too
but mine broke bc its chinese so i swapped to a cable one
prime jasper
Its literally only time there's issues if you plug the receiver into your pc or have wifi antenna or something right next to it
Wireless keyboard isn't necessary imo
prime jasper
Only reason i use wireless mouse is because the cable is cringe when moving it
digital sierra
Only reason i use wireless mouse is because the cable is cringe when moving it
lol that aint an issue for me
my mouses cable is like
idk
1 meters?
i might as well use it as a remote detonator
digital sierra
Wireless mouse gives so much more freedom
my previous ones range isnt much freedom
maybe like 30cm before starting to
ummm
imma go
gn
tired notch
Got lukewarm reviews, but is pretty much better than shitty Hogwarts
if ur just comparing hogwarts and forspoken in combat alone i might agree with u, however the environments in forspoken is leagues bellow what hogwarts have. also i wouldnt call hogwarts shitty bc it from the looks of it most people liked the game in steam reviews
combat alone isnt enough to make a good game
quick locust
i use wired mouse but with bungee stand
valid pelican
only reason id used a wired mouse is if the shape was exclusively wired, like Zowie mice or the old Model O
wireless has less resistance to motion making it easier to move the mouse and shoot things, plain and simple
small zinc
if ur just comparing hogwarts and forspoken in combat alone i might agree with u...
Steam Reviews are never anything to believe. People review bomb games all the time. People are allowed to their opinions of course, but reviews on Steam in particular are never subjective and nothing but an echo chamber.
small zinc
combat alone isnt enough to make a good game
Mad Max says hello.
tired notch
Mad Max says hello.
i spent like 20 - 30 hours of my 69hr hogwarts playthrough just exploring the map
id say enviroments is as important as the combat
a good game is one that makes you feel involved in the world
forspoken fails at doing that
combat is fun yes/ but the enviroment is so lacking that it pulls me out of the world
also review bomb is one thing
but even with all the controversy it still has basicly all positive reviews and not a non significant amount, 141,361 reviews
one of the few games rare games that release not broken that in itself is a miracle
green shuttle
PC boots up but no display. The red (cpu) and orange (ram) lights are on, on the motherboard. I'm pretty sure there's no problem with the ram, because its lights are turning on so its getting power and stuff. But the cpu is being troublesome over here. After this we changed the ram and stuff and same issue. But we decided to unplug the cpu power cable to check if it really is the cpu. And yup, cpu had no power and the same thing was happening. So to me it looks like the problem is with the cpu not getting power. Does anyone have any idea?
(first time building a pc btw)
digital sierra
one of the few games rare games that release not broken that in itself is a mira...
nowadays yeah
charred barn
what can i get a 1080p 165hz monitor for battlefield ?
tired notch
honestly i recomend getting 1440p 165hz
1080p with moden gpus mean ur not usingmost of it
lower resolution and high refresh means ur putting more load on cpu too and not ur gpu
prime jasper
anyone know why i need to plug out and back in my usb dac after pc shut down or windows uses generic usb audio drivers for it? plugging it out and back in makes it use the correct driver
tired notch
anyone know why i need to plug out and back in my usb dac after pc shut down or ...
are u connecting directly to mobo or using a usb hub?
something like dac i would try to avoid using a usb hub
prime jasper
it is directly on motherboard
charred barn
honestly i recomend getting 1440p 165hz
Can't use 27' monitor
tired notch
Can't use 27' monitor
idk how rare it is
but i personally have a 24 inch 1440p 165hz monitor
its pretty hard to find tho
charred barn
but i personally have a 24 inch 1440p 165hz monitor
not sold in my country
tired notch
then ur best bet is to use a competitive monitor
with 1080p u can get a 360hz monitor
'
charred barn
with 1080p u can get a 360hz monitor
ASUS TUF Gaming VG24VQR | 24 Zoll Full HD Curved Monitor | 165 Hz, 1ms MPRT, FreeSync Premium | VA Panel, 16:9, 1920x1080, DisplayPort, HDMI, ergonomisch https://amzn.eu/d/9mrbWap
How is this
charred barn
what gpu do u have btw
rtx 3060
charred barn
ghosting happens on some monitors i'm undecided
tired notch
1080p 360hz can be tricky if ur cpu isnt up to snuff
charred barn
Yes
charred barn
ASUS TUF Gaming VG24VQR | 24 Zoll Full HD Curved Monitor | 165 Hz, 1ms MPRT, Fre...
i will probably get this
tired notch
yea good choice
tired notch
i will probably get this
do you recognize this brand?
charred barn
no i saw it for the first time
tired notch
yea dont buy VA panel or TN in 2023
high quality IPS pannels are pretty cheap nowadays
primal pier
Rate keyboard
storm osprey
i hate it but love it at the same time
nocturne drift
Looks like a noctua
toxic wigeon
MORBIUS.
nocturne drift
Greatest movie of all time
molten flame
Looking at 10000+ rpm server fans
Wonder if client motherboards can handle them long term
RX 7800XT has 60CU, whereas 6800XT has 72CU
nocturne drift
Following Nvidia's footstep nicely.
molten flame
Ampere moment
Make FP32 cores half their size so you can double them but each one is significantly slower than previous gen shaders
molten flame
7900XTX is said to have 12,288 cores but to compare it to previous gen you gotta half it to 6,144 cores to compare to 6950XT
quick locust
I hope bmg can beat 7800xt then
molten flame
Intel has it aimed at 4080 afaik
Might come short to 4070ti performance
Still double A770 tho
quick locust
yea
molten flame
I think Battlemage can at least beat AD104
Battlemage will beat 7900XTX in Ray-tracing and AI
A770 already does well in ray-tracing compared to 3070 and RX 6800
toxic wigeon
I do find it cool and funny that amd cards always have a crazy amount of vram.
prime jasper
Anyone tried the wooting keyboards?
prime jasper
Anyone else only seeing bf1 conquest servers and nothing else? There literally only capture the flag servers. Made sure I wasn’t being dumb and left an active filter so… am I the only seeing this?
storm osprey
Anyone tried the wooting keyboards?
nah i was close though, but ended up going with a custom build
storm osprey
molten coral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPmSraxpZ8s
Think the coolest thing about is that you can take the keyboard off to clean it 
if it wasn't 570 AUD I would have probably got it
flint maple
royal zealot
Im having trouble launching battlefield 2042
prime jasper
quick locust
quick locust
Idk what these guys are smoking
Nvidia bucks
prime jasper
i am not even sure what response time they are talking about here
💀
better get this nvidia reflex compatible mouse to lower my response times 
prime jasper
4070 is 689,9€ here
molten flame
4070 discounted earlier than the 7900XT did
quick locust
4070 is 689,9€ here
they're the same here roughly
green shuttle
So I saved and exited the BIOS after some settings and i turned off the pc, put the windows USB, then turned it on again and it says no signal. Anyone knows what to do?
molten coral
Cheapest 4070 here is 669
candid flame
Nice
green shuttle
So I saved and exited the BIOS after some settings and i turned off the pc, put ...
I also tried without the USB and still no signal
can someone help please?
green shuttle
Remove the cmos battery
did. Left it out for 15 mins, stillthe same issue
now this is pog racing
prime jasper
god tier gaming PC
quick locust
True portable pc
storm osprey
this is the first thing i see when i get on discord...
toxic wigeon
I love it
dry pike
The drives kinda bother me, makes it un-rollable. But besides that it is cool.
sleek aspen
Okay Guyz can my system run bf2042????
I've got an AMD FX-4300
I've also got:
64gb ddr3 RAM
RTX 4090
And Windows 8 pro
Along with 2tb of SSD space
pale quartz
no
molten flame
pale quartz
ah yes another overpriced deadweight card
lofty light
If it's that efficient does that mean there will be slim little 1 fan cards of it?
mossy silo
Has anyone here benchmarked BF2042 with the new 7800X3D cpu?
toxic wigeon
No but my friend who has a 7950x3d gets 220 + CPU frames on 2042.
He is quite literally GPU bound.
mossy silo
That's the thing.. I'm getting inconsistent results with the 7800X3D. Just wanted to ask if anyone else was experiencing the same thing or not?
toxic wigeon
Can you specify inconsistent?
Cause really some games love the vcache but others don't need it.
candid flame
maybe you have a faulty cpu
pale quartz
That's the thing.. I'm getting inconsistent results with the 7800X3D. Just wante...
1: update your chipset drivers, they are mandatory for the x3d parts and 2 update the BIOS
mossy silo
1: update your chipset drivers, they are mandatory for the x3d parts and 2 updat...
Tried that... New bios, fresh WIN11 install with latest chipset + GPU drivers. https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/12p6rpk/banchmarking_battlefield_2042_pc_has_anyone/
pale quartz
I'm not sure what you're asking, what is your baseline performance results
and it doesn't seem like you have resizeable BAR switched on
make sure your defacto config settings are in order
mossy silo
I'm not sure what you're asking, what is your baseline performance results
Ok. Resizeable BAR.. Is that a bios setting?
pale quartz
yes, it's called above 4G decoding
switch it on in your BIOS for wherever it's stored and SAM will switch on
pale quartz
then thats 20% of what you need to do, go run this in CMD as an administrator bcdedit /set hypervisorlaunchtype off
reboot and then run your baseline numbers then
mossy silo
What does setting hypervisorlaunchtype off do?
mossy silo
How is hypervisor software related to Bf2042 just out of interest?
pale quartz
How is hypervisor software related to Bf2042 just out of interest?
VBS will cause performance degradation in games because of the calls that it makes to the API
tldr is don't worry about it
dry pike
Time for memes in tech :p
nocturne drift
Has anyone here benchmarked BF2042 with the new 7800X3D cpu?
Tested with 4090.
But it depends on ur graphics settings. At 1080p ultra no rtx, no dlss. I am still gpu bound with a rtx 3090. My 10850k vs 13900ks didn't improve much fps at all.
mossy silo
https://imgur.com/a/TRL3fwx
Thank you for this.
What software do you use to get your results?
mossy silo
This is from a youtuber
That's really interesting. On low settings @ 1080p (1920x1080) I get 300fps average. But these results I have are just from using MSI afterburner and recording the gameplay footage.
nocturne drift
thats prob right
mossy silo
I'll have to look into RTSS Rivatuner Statistics.
nocturne drift
do u do 64 v 64?
mossy silo
I play 64x64 conquest to run my tests.
I normally play @ 3440x1440 everything is set to ultra.
mossy silo
I never tested low haha. I like eye candy
Me too. BF2042 is a beautiful game. I admire the scenery. 😄
As I'm getting t-bagged. 🤣
molten flame
BF1 on low settings looked decent but BFV and BF2042 on low is awful
ngl the biggest change you'd see going from low to ultra settings in BF1 was more foliage and better shadows
textures barely changed
nocturne drift
I like bfv look more ngl
mossy silo
BF1 on low settings looked decent but BFV and BF2042 on low is awful
It's really bad at low settings. I agree. I'm lucky to have such a nice system to play it on tbh. I only really play 2042. I'm obsessed.
tight gate
can anyone help me with a direct x error i keep getting when i launch bf2042
honest sandal
tldr is don't worry about it
Always worry about it
quick locust
Big jump
quick locust
Rgb
pine anchor
Can I play series s on 2k is there n option?
quick locust
You mean 1440p and not 2K? Not sure if it supports it
But a quick internet search should answer that
small zinc
You mean 1440p and not 2K? Not sure if it supports it
Eh. 1440p is 2K. At least in the standard 16:9 format
Just like we call 3840x2160 “4K”
quick locust
Eh. 1440p is 2K. At least in the standard 16:9 format
2K is 2048x1080. Very close to 1080p, just slightly wider
It's not close to 2560x1440
I know there's variants of DCI 2K, but none are close
small zinc
2K is 2048x1080. Very close to 1080p, just slightly wider
That’s a cinema standard
Not typical format
16x9 is still the “defacto” format so 2560x1440 is very much “2K”
Just like there’s a difference between UHD and 4K. The 4K cinema standard is actually 4096x3112
But obviously that’s not a typical format and you’re not gonna find any display in that. Just like you’re not gonna any monitor/display on a consumer level that has that resolution
21:9 has become more standard over the years so I’ll also give you 2560x1080 as “2K”
midnight crypt
🤓
quick locust
16x9 is still the “defacto” format so 2560x1440 is very much “2K”
If 16:9 then 1920x1080 is a lot closer
Same height, slightly thinner
2560x1440 is not near any DCI standard while 1920x1080 is close to 2048x1080 (2K), just 16:9
And yes I know you won't find 2K on typical monitors either, as 16:9 is a lot more common so 1920x1080 instead
And yeah, all the DCI specifications are cinema standards, hence why you won't really find consumer platforms in DCI 2K or DCI 4K.
But 1920x1080 is a LOT closer, its just 16:9 version
And from Dell website
From Lenovo
quick locust
https://videocardz.com/newz/palit-shows-off-spider-man-modded-geforce-rtx-4070-g...
Good for surfing the web
molten flame
pale quartz
Can I play series s on 2k is there n option?
the short and long answer is no, it's a 1080p machine mainly, 1440p is up to the discretion of the game developer, and the console isn't powerful enough to warrant it's inclusion in 90% of heavy titles
carmine pelican
Just downloaded the game on EA and getting about 120 fps consistently but its constantly stuttering, anyone else experienced this?
quick locust
Just downloaded the game on EA and getting about 120 fps consistently but its co...
Go to a support forum
noble mica
Just downloaded the game on EA and getting about 120 fps consistently but its co...
The game can stutter pretty bad if you have a meh cpu from my experience. More micro stuttering and a slightly lower avg frame rate with worse 1% and 0.1%’s by far when using less cores and threads. Got bored a month ago and wanted to see how many cores I can turn off on my 8 core , 16 thread cpu before the game was unplayable . I found out 4 cores , 8 threads or 6 cores 6 threads is the minimum lol. 100% usage and getting 120 fps but tons of micro stutter
carmine pelican
Yea fair enough, ive got a i5-9600k RTX 2070 super and 32 gig of ram
thought id be ok
noble mica
Damnnn 😦 I used to have a 4690k and bf1 was hell
Even an 8600k I got back then was barely enough to make it completely smooth
grizzled apex
actually... wasnt bf1 the first dx12 battlefield game?
noble mica
Lol I can look at some clips of mine see if msi afterburner overlay says d3 d 11 or 12
Not sure though to be honest . May have been the option ? Been ages
grizzled apex
usually with dx12 games AFAIK, cpu usage is typically higher due to storage read and write speeds
noble mica
Oh cool, makes sense
pale quartz
usually with dx12 games AFAIK, cpu usage is typically higher due to storage read...
it's due to different streaming implementations which support async over DX11 rather than I/O
sleek aspen
can I run bf2042 on DX9??:??:?:?
Trying to see if my Radeon 4550 can run it on Ultra
I get pretty good framerate on Starcraft
sleek aspen
Bro you are paying too much for that @wooden creek
wooden creek
Really eh? I should mention this is in CAD
sleek aspen
Newegg and Amazon is selling nvme ssds right now for close to 100 usd
wooden creek
Intriguing i’ll look into that
grizzled apex
100$ for 2tb is a sane price though *usd
sleek aspen
Which is still less than the 219 CAD
grizzled apex
i feel like i got kicked in the balls for buying a 2tb ssd a years ago for 150$
sleek aspen
Yeah man idk why storage is so cheap right now lmao
If only graphics cards could be cheaper 
Know they’ve already dropped in price some
It’s never enough though
grizzled apex
Yeah man idk why storage is so cheap right now lmao
im guessing its because the silicon shortage is starting to end
sleek aspen
@wooden creek Silicon Power 2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen3x4 2280 SSD Solid State Drive (SP002TBP34A60M28) https://a.co/d/jbALPEi
This 2tb nvme m2 Ssd is 80 USD
WD has one for like 110
Others range from like 105-120
wooden creek
This is appreciated
storm osprey
probably DRAMLESS though
sleek aspen
Lol if you want dram @storm osprey
Timetec 2TB with DRAM Cache SSD NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 8Gb/s M.2 2280 3D NAND TLC 1800TBW High Performance Read/Write Speed Up to 3,400/3,000 MB/s Internal Solid State Drive for PC Laptop and Desktop https://a.co/d/44jEDu4
85 bucks on Amazon
2tb
Nvme Ssd
Storage is really really cheap right now
I remember when a 1tb Ssd SATA was like 250+
noble mica
I remember when a 1tb Ssd SATA was like 250+
yepp, people being advised to have 120gb boot drives lol good days
storm osprey
id even blindly suggest the ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro since its normally the cheapest name best but damn good performing nvme drive
sleek aspen
2tb going for 120
Still is
noble mica
kicking myself. got a 1tb pcie 4 ssd for 110 4 months ago
noble mica
can I run bf2042 on DX9??:??:?:?
lol just checked 2042 sys requirements, it does say dx12 for minimum damn
carmine pelican
So is the game unplayable for me then unless i upgrade my pc?
surley not
ive seen people play with worse specs
like frames are not an issue whatsoever
its just constant stuttering
like it shouldnt be that bad
pale quartz
ive seen people play with worse specs
you have a 9700k, it doesnt have hyperthreading, so yeah its time to upgrade
its equivalent to a 4 core 8 thread system
pale quartz
youre running out of threads, nothing much you can do
youre 4, approaching 5 generations old on that architecture anyways
carmine pelican
yea fair enough
ive got mates who play with worse specs
granted on lower fps
but id take lower frames
with no stuttering
midnight crypt
hell even a 4 core 8 thread cpu might even be better
carmine pelican
He has the same cpu. just less ram and worse gpu 😐
nocturne drift
Eh 9700k should be fine. My friend has it. U can check if xmp is enabled. Do some oc if u have the cooling and don't run much background task.
prime jasper
He has the same cpu. just less ram and worse gpu 😐
Have you actually played on his pc or did he just tell you its not stuttering
Because 8 core 8 thread will stutter in 128 players no matter what
carmine pelican
ive seen it with my own 2 eyes, he gets less fps like 50-60 but at least the game is semi smooth
prime jasper
Obviously you might have bad setup which could make it worse than it has to be
Because he is gpu bottlenecked
If you cap your fps you will experience less noticeable stutter
With your pc the cpu is holding back your gpu instead
carmine pelican
Yea fair enough, maybe im just more expectant of my PC than i should me lmao. i wouldnt be surprised with with a low fps and some stutters here and there. but not to the unplayable level that it is
https://streamable.com/n6gx70 its the perfect level of infuriating 😆
prime jasper
Does your setup support resizable bar?
pale quartz
Does your setup support resizable bar?
9th gen does not support resizeable BAR
10th gen+ only has the ISA
quick locust
I have rebar on 8th gen
It depends on motherboard
Mine did get update for rebar in 2021
prime jasper
Yep many motherboards has option to enable it even when it's not officially supported
quick locust
Yep
pale quartz
it doesnt do anything
the older processors do not have the ISA in them, the GPU cant use the protocl
prime jasper
Why would they add it if it really does nothing
quick locust
I have 16GB BAR in 🐧
pale quartz
its a PCIe specification
quick locust
I have both enabled
pale quartz
I have 16GB BAR in 🐧
linux has its own binary, it doesnt depend on above 4g decoding
windows does
pale quartz
your windows GPU driver isnt reading anything
its reading the BIOS setting which above 4G decoding switches on for the PCIE specification, its a null setting
quick locust
I've set both above 4G and rebar to enabled in bios after 2021 version
If I have it off it reads as 256MB in Linux as well
pale quartz
quick locust
yeah i know
some z390 and z370 boards didnt get update
while all z470 did
iirc asrock didnt update theirs
pale quartz
whether z370 got an update or not doesnt matter
it does nothing in the actual implementation
9th gen doesnt support 4G streaming for its data and below, period
quick locust
then post 9th and 10th gen internal specs
pale quartz
its the equivalent of turning on DLSS for a radeon GPU
pale quartz
then post 9th and 10th gen internal specs
its not an internal specification lol
quick locust
I mean intels intern documents
pale quartz
resizeable BAR is an optional PCIe specification it wasnt mandatory, and intel didnt add it till comet lake
AMD didnt either until zen 2
zen 1 and zen 1+ do not have the reBAR ISA
pale quartz
that is not the resizeable BAR ISA config
as much as reddit says otherwise lol
_pdep_u32/64 is used for PDEP, thats nothing to do with resizeable BAR
pale quartz
yeah cause its included in the 2.1 PCIe revision
as said 4 times if the CPU doesnt support it, it does nothing
its reading, a non existent thing
quick locust
so every single motherboard manufacturer put out an update that does nothing?
except asrock, guess they couldnt be bothered
well and biostar i think
pale quartz
every single motherboard manufacturer uses intel's firmware for updating their chipsets, which intel included by default as PCIe specifications are not CPU specific
quick locust
yes but they updated boards for 8th/9th gen
pale quartz
reread what i said
quick locust
updating chipsets for 8th and 9th gen specifiallly for it
pale quartz
..
quick locust
2 years after last update
pale quartz
intels firmware is not specific..
its the same across all chipsets..
much like AGESA
quick locust
the buggy counterpart
pale quartz
not wrong
quick locust
still seems to work otherwise I'd get bent by my gpu
cause arc does not like not being able to use it lol
prime jasper
It only gives few frames in cyberpunk 2077 and none or significantly less in some games on unsupported cpu
So it definitely does something 
pale quartz
PCIe resizeable bar (as is in the same) is most influential in games which actually read high data streams over the PCIe exchange
quick locust
Not sure how I would test whether it actually accesses more than 256MB chunks at once
quick locust
Is there software to test it? Whether it loads 256MB chunks
pale quartz
there isnt, unless its a 10 year old program software doesnt request a specific chunk buffer anymore
it'll request as much as is available
quick locust
Yeah but is there any way to map what it accesses
pale quartz
you mean memory addresses?
quick locust
Yeah in vram
pale quartz
you can do that yeah, there isnt any program that'll give you the chunk buffer per address hit if thats what youre asking
in general only way to test it is explicitly switching off reBAR then doing calculations for transfer times
(tldr is Linux yes windows no), windows maps are from virtual addresses on the software stack
quick locust
linux wins again /s
pale quartz
its a non sequiter, forcing it on means the CPU is using software based acceleration
which is why performance regresses
its still transferring in 256MB segments
pale quartz
the PCIe will miss register hits if you do these things to try and enable black magic, so its to be expected
and why AMD and intel need to strip 90% of available settings from consumer chipset platforms
quick locust
every single aspm option makes mine fail to POST so they could remove that from this one lol
pale quartz
every single setting could be removed more or less
people who dont know what theyre doing following some placebo reddit guide on overclocking, (this) and memory tuning is what causes most "problems"
pale quartz
nothing like succumbing to silent bit rot
"guys my windows fails to boot it was working fine 5 months ago"
prime jasper
Memory OC causes data degradation? 
prime jasper
I have heard you can brick your OS if you modify timings very wrong
My windows don't need any help doing that itself
pale quartz
Memory OC causes data degradation? <:monkaS:1057373046215819294>
anything which isnt JEDEC can cause data corruption yes
silent bit rot is a plague which you cant test for, even users on XMP are not safe
quick locust
Windows is already corrupt inside
pale quartz
if unstable
unless its 0.1 off its factory values, then its not stable
XMP itself isnt stable
quick locust
this would be an easy test lol
prime jasper
Out of curiosity why do people say bit rot is a windows specific issue
pale quartz
because the majority of users use windows
bit rot isnt OS specific, it can and will cause issues on linux aswell
the degradation of data causes windows to fry much easier than on linux, which is actually a worse thing, since the loss on linux is gradual
quick locust
i thought it was on gamepass nvm
pale quartz
there are at a minimum millions of people who have their pc's switched on having bit rot as we speak, unless youve got ECC you will not find it
quick locust
multi bit ecc time
pale quartz
quick locust
forza 5 should have big impact whether rebar is on, time for 135GB download 💤
noble mica
I didn't have rebar on for months when I thought I did
my gpu needed some sort of update to it before it was truly enabled
pain
small zinc
If 16:9 then 1920x1080 is a lot closer
Absolutely nobody refers to 1080p as "2K". When people refer to "2K" you know exactly what people mean, and that's 2560x1440
That is the "defacto" resolution when referring to "2K' and what @pine anchor was meaning.
The DCI isn't standard because nobody makes monitors/displays in those resolutions.
I can also link something from BenQ's website:
"What is 2K QHD Resolution?
2K displays are those whose width falls in the 2,000-pixel range. More often than not, you’ll find 2K monitors with a display resolution of 2560x1440, that’s why it’s often shortened to 1440p. However, this resolution is officially considered Quad HD (QHD). As such, many monitors claim their resolution as 2K QHD."
From a standpoint of counting horizontal lines of pixels, 1920 does make logical sense in that regard, however nobody has ever considered 1920x1080 "2K"
small zinc
https://babeltechreviews.com/z390-resizable-bar-performance/
So...Resizable BAR is garbage and should just be disabled in the BIOS rather than going through Nvidia Inspector to disable it globally aye.
Seems much simpler.
nocturne drift
What are we talking about? ReBar on 9th gen?
It's all mobo dependent. U can enable rebar on 8th gen
Thanks mobo manufacturers
I enabled it on 3 of my friends Z390 + 9700k and Z390 + 8700k and Z370 + 8700k last year.
Also ram tuning u gotta know what u are doing. Took me a weekend to get ddr5 stable
But bdie ddr4 now takes me about 1 afternoon. It's just copy pasta. And tm5/HCI memtest
Just did a 4 hrs D2 raid.
I'm so ded lol
quick locust
Absolutely nobody refers to 1080p as "2K". When people refer to "2K" you know ex...
Because some consumers get it wrong does not make it right to use the term on that resolution. All the "K" resolutions are DCI standards and have a defined resolution, or a few variations of it. The only name for 2560x1440 is QHD, because it is four times as many pixels as 1280x720. Claiming that 1920x1080 and 2560x1440 is the same resolution (2K) is a bit odd when there's a 73% difference between them while there's only 6% difference between 1920x1080 and DCI 2K
quick locust
I enabled it on 3 of my friends Z390 + 9700k and Z390 + 8700k and Z370 + 8700k l...
Yeah I have it enabled too, gigabyte updated my Z390 with it in 2021
nocturne drift
sadly idk I recommend 8700k anymore haha
unless its less than 100 bucks and the mobo is less than 100 bucks as well
the new cpus are disgustingly fast. I see a 60-70 fps increase in witcher 3 rtx disabled
8th to 10th gen and bdie gets YEETED
quick locust
Ya mine is just something I've had for a long time
Couldn't find a higher resolution of this (ironically)
prime jasper
So...Resizable BAR is garbage and should just be disabled in the BIOS rather tha...
Not on supported cpu's
Its pretty good actually on supported platform
quick locust
lol
crystal gorge
Will there be a 4080Ti?
candid flame
there will be when they need more money
prime jasper
cant wait for rtx 4090 super ti super path tracing edition
candid flame
the gtx 1660ti can enable path tracing, 9fps cinematic experience
north crow
hey it goes all the way up to 30fps at checks notes 240p
prime jasper
gonna try mprt on my monitor
didnt try because gsync and freesync disabled with it
now i will
molten flame
storm osprey
damnit i already knew this and prices are higher than end of last year for most of these monitors
small zinc
Because some consumers get it wrong does not make it right to use the term on th...
The point is, nobody refers to "HD" as "2K" even in the DCI sense. When people say "2K" whether or not the littany is incorrect is irrelevant. We both know 100% that @pine anchor wasn't referring to a 1920x1080 resolution monitor.
Because something we both can agree on is that saying "4K" when referring to a 3840x2160 resolution is actually kind of silly. I personally prefer just sticking to how their named: I.E. HD, QHD, UHD, etc.
And don't get me started on 5K or 8K.....
small zinc
cant wait for rtx 4090 super ti super path tracing edition
You mean the 4095x2 Titan Ti Super? 2000 watts TDP, MSRP $5,000. Takes up 5 slots on your motherboard, has 17 fans on it, and weighs 35 lbs.
But runs Minecraft at 16K with Raytracing on at 500 FPS
toxic wigeon
Today I learned you can "overclock" controllers.
dry pike
if it has a chip, it can usually be overclocked 🙂
but controllers are rather unusual
OC for lower latency?
nocturne drift
crazy
pale quartz
Today I learned you can "overclock" controllers.
you can but it's not a good idea
screwing with the polling rate on controllers will cause high yield power usage, they're not designed for it, and costs for energy per increase are high
keep things to how manufacturers design them to prevent them dying years early
rancid swallow
digital sierra
"spider man series"
it looks like something for bratty rich 12 y.o kids idk
what kind of sane grown adult would need spiderman on their gpu
aint like
around half of cases dont even allow you to see your gpu idk
prime jasper
nah the spider man isnt bad part about it
its the shape of zotac gpu's and overall look
it looks like something that belongs in alienware pc
Don't like it
grizzled apex
i dont mind it, zotac is doing what evga couldnt (cut corners)
quick locust
My arc A770 LE gpu is prettier
digital sierra
its the shape of zotac gpu's and overall look
goofy ahh shaped gpu
quick locust
Less goofy than this
molten flame
small zinc
zotac makes worst looking gpu's no cap
They do now anyway. Back in Turing, thier cards were the top performing AND looked good.
The Zotac Amp Extreme 2080 Ti was absolutely hands down one of the top performing GPU's
and looked nice too
pine anchor
with which graphics card is the series comparable
storm osprey
switch.. like the nintendo system?
pine anchor
Yes
nocturne drift
I like the new zotac cards.
The only card that is not a gaint brick like every other oem
nocturne drift
Shape wise.
Also 4090 zotac is actually very light compared to other 4090
Prob less fin density etc but all 4090 cooler overbuilt anyways.
pine anchor
well whats the question lol
Is there a right stick klick like R3 on PlayStation
pale quartz
Is there a right stick klick like R3 on PlayStation
yes its the center of the d pad
pine anchor
i5 12400f or Ryzen 7 5700 🤨
toxic wigeon
pine anchor
Is 500gb ssd enough?
candid flame
storage is never enough
pale quartz
Is 500gb ssd enough?
1TB minimum for your main drive
prime jasper
Is 500gb ssd enough?
Would go 2TB so you can have few games installed
500GB will be full in no time
It is not recommended to install games on seperate drive so your main should be large enough
candid flame
500GB will be full in no time
yeah that is like ARK survival evolved with the HD texture pack
one game
prime jasper
Also the usable space after OS install is around 460GB
pine anchor
Then 1TB I guess
prime jasper
Don't like it
Why does it look so werid?
vernal pendant
Don't like it
card design straight outta the windows vista era
the late-y2k curved lines look isn't coming back, i'm sorry to say
digital sierra
Then 1TB I guess
get 2 if you can
1 TB aint enough imo
this is coming from the broke guy who doesnt buy games often
pine anchor
To much €
quick locust
the late-y2k curved lines look isn't coming back, i'm sorry to say
clearly we need more 2010s gpu design
pine anchor
I want a 6700xt but there is so much variations
quick locust
they're all the same rough specs so just get the cooler you want
unless you want to OC super hard
pine anchor
And 3 cooler ?
pine anchor
And what’s the difference
pine anchor
But same performance u would say?
pine anchor
And the ASrock
toxic wigeon
Really it's just the same card with different cooling.
quick locust
yep
prime jasper
69 fps
dense sky
cute
midnight crypt
Why
quick locust
Rip
small zinc
https://videocardz.com/newz/dual-evga-rtx-3090-ti-gpus-beat-3dmark-port-royal-wo...
And this is 100% pointless.
Only people like Mazda care about synthetic benchmarks which have zero translation to real world performance.
toxic wigeon
https://videocardz.com/newz/dual-evga-rtx-3090-ti-gpus-beat-3dmark-port-royal-wo...
Ayo that's cool! Guess Evga cards were that good huh.
gentle grail
Has anyone seen the use of AI players in BF?
Like people using AI on the mic or playing?
primal pier
wut
nocturne drift
Ayo that's cool! Guess Evga cards were that good huh.
Yes kingpin cards are great.
The rest 
molten flame
They have good customer service for a reason
quick locust
weeb gpu
nocturne drift
Did they spray perfume on it like their 30 series?
quick locust
¯_(ツ)_/¯
molten flame
coarse nimbus
i can smell that picture
lofty light
Dude heard about people baking a GPU to fix the solder joints and put it in an industrial oven
quick locust
Biostar: these temperatures are normal and expected
toxic wigeon
Fan looks cool.
molten flame
worn wraith
anyone knows how to turn off text to speech ?
wintry depot
i have problem with bf he dont open in eapp can to help me?
nocturne drift
Nice.
nocturne drift
short pawn
man i am stupid but i do not get why some games use like 10% of utilisation of hardware causing low fps
and it wont go up
prime jasper
candid flame
I tried installing a game on my boot drive and the texture just doesn't load properly. Does that mean my boot drive is just ass?
quick locust
If it takes long to load then yeah might be
If it doesn't at all might be something else
candid flame
nope, it's the same speed as my other ssd, so it's very fast
just the texture isn't loading all the way
quick locust
Lower res or just not at all
candid flame
lower res
it's 2042 btw so maybe a game issue? I moved it back to my non-boot drive and texture loads correctly
prime jasper
Do you have software that could show if the drive is gone bad
prime jasper
Does that means there is also "good"
empty nova
Got a question
I have Battlefield 4 and Battlefield 1 on my PC
I'm trying to save space on my nvme ssd. Is there a reason to keep them on that drive or can I move them to my HDD?
Same goes for DICE's Battlefront 2015. I mostly play the offline modes for nostalgia.
Last thing. I know every game benefits a little bit from being put on an SSD. If I could, I'd put them all on that drive. What I'm asking is if the difference in the case of BF4 and BF1 will be noticeable at all?
empty nova
I can't find any answers online that aren't outdated
calm copper
Last thing. I know every game benefits a little bit from being put on an SSD. If...
in 2023? probably not
empty nova
Thanks for responding
small zinc
I mean other than load times, having a game on a SSD doesn't make much difference
empty nova
Some games have a surprisingly drastic difference
small zinc
NVMe/SSD's are good for boot-up and of course accessing of files/executables
empty nova
Especially larger open world games
small zinc
But once a program/game is in use, then a SSD won't make a huge difference. Isn't noticeable
Other than yes, giant open world games with large render distances
empty nova
Welp
Sucks to be me cuz that's like most of the games I play
But thanks for the response
small zinc
Load times in zones might be a bit longer, but it's not like you can't enjoy a game because of the type of drive its on
empty nova
I'm not too worried
Other than a competitive advantage in loading faster, I don't think it matters
small zinc
I mean, if I'm being honest, not sure what your budget is, but NVMe drives are super cheap right now
Take a look at this SK Hynix 2TB drive. It's absolutely hands down the best (Gen 4) drive on the market for $156.
empty nova
I'm just trying to manage the space
empty nova
Why not get more storage?
Money and the one I have is still fairly new
My parents bought me this one but in the past few months I got a job and am now financially independent
small zinc
Even the SK Hynix outperforms the Samsung 990 Pro. Not by much, but it is slightly faster while running on less voltage which means less heat consumption.
empty nova
Also I only have one slot
small zinc
Just a suggestion. But yeah if a new drive isn't in the picture right now, then you can absolutely move games around
midnight crypt
Never even heard of Sparkle
prime jasper
I hope they don't sparkle
quick locust
They both sparkle and arc
candid flame
stronger intel gpu when
cursive citrus
For BF2042, should I use ultra graphics or auto? 🤔
toxic wigeon
Play on high.
pale quartz
For BF2042, should I use ultra graphics or auto? 🤔
anything under high is currently bugged for textures, aka low to high, so it won't make a difference, ultra is a severe tax on your system so unless you can absolutely afford it use high
dry pike
Thanks Samsung
candid flame
they fixed it
dry pike
Image the Battlefield patch if next patch just listed "Fixed the issue".
odd goblet
- Added stuff
dry pike
- Changed the programming
primal pier
- added herobrine
ember bolt
Thanks Samsung
love the comprehensive release notes
molten flame
midnight crypt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xmTLMb Just order these minus the gpu and winblows
hopefully the parts arrive soon
🙏
small zinc
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-forces-msi-to-unlaunch-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-su...
Oh because the cooler is also named "Super" so it was confusing with the naming scheme?
3060 Ti Super?
Nice.
quick locust
yeah its dumb
small zinc
Never even heard of Sparkle
They haven't been around in a long time. Their last GPU was Kepler. Nvidia GTX 680 and haven't been around since.
nocturne drift
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-forces-msi-to-unlaunch-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-su...
Ngl that cooler is super high quality and insane.
I think it's the best performing wise in 30 series and prob best looking.
Air cooler that is. Oh and idk about Galax HoF cooler. No access.
molten flame
MSI made a heatsink that's too good
https://youtu.be/N304NKFrmvk @nocturne drift
thoughts
nocturne drift
https://youtu.be/N304NKFrmvk <@1022544403962798090>
It's fax
I said this years ago.
We haven't had a single broken 3090ti
It also laid the foundation of the 40 series
molten flame
they are overbuilt like 4090
nocturne drift
Honestly nah cause they do draw 450-500w
4090 isn't super overbuilt in some applications
4080 is.
4080 can be handled with 3090 coolers
Not 4090 coolers
uncut quarry
why doesnt my game lag almost at all but it does a lot when im in a discord call?
or in general playing with a friend
candid flame
discord and your game are competing for cpu usage
dry pike
Easy to test, connect headset to phone and join discord on that and see if the problem persists
prime jasper
will 4070ti suffer from having only 12GB vram
yes
This is an example where a game is very close to hitting the limit of 12gb
quick locust
Meanwhile my low-mid range gpu has 16GB
prime jasper
Yeah
4070 TI has less vram then 9th generation consoles, which I'd imagine is what the industry is optimizing for, although the memory on consoles is unified so I guess it's not a direct comparison
pale quartz
4070 TI has less vram then 9th generation consoles, which I'd imagine is what th...
not exactly, it doesn't work by direct reference numbers for the consoles
the consoles have 2GB defacto reserved for OS operations which can't be assigned to the games, the other is a shared buffer which totals to 14GB but it's not 14 at any one time, it will dynamically change depending on what the console requires, the main reason 12GB will not be enough is down to game engine advancements which will make low VRAM cards obselete, bordering on unplayable in the next few years
if you don't have at least 16GB you are on a short path to needing an upgrade within the year
nocturne drift
Omg. I rma ed 2 ql fans from corsair and they give me 3
midnight crypt
Neat
small zinc
Amazon has the PNY 4090 for under MSRP right now if anyone still looking for one at a "reasonable" price.
$50 bucks is $50 bucks. Listed at $1550 currently
quick locust
prime jasper
Why are gamers complaining about jedi survivor using 19-20GB of their 24GB VRAM?
Isn't this normal usage
and the performance issues seems not to be caused by it
i would be worried if it used only half of the vram with maxed settings at 4k
big number = problem must be caused by it 🤡
most of them probably didnt even install the new driver
my games run fine why update heard this too many times to count when someone complained about new game
molten flame
pale quartz
Isn't this normal usage
no it's not
prime jasper
it is tho
no memory leak = no issue
the problems arent caused by it
means it isnt an issue
vram usage is least of the concerns for that game
pale quartz
not how memory usage works lol
quick locust
also its allocation
small zinc
Isn't this normal usage
Not at all. What game in the history of games has remotely come to close to even half that with the exception of Godfall and Crysis Remake by Sabre Interactive using insane texture resolutions? It's very clearly a memory leak. Unreal Engine 4 is and has always been crappy and pisses me off that Respawn chose to go with UE4 instead of either Frostbite or their own flavor of a highly modified Source engine.
prime jasper
Not memory leak lol
small zinc
Not memory leak lol
Absolutely memory leak.
I don't even care for Reddit, but users are reporting memory leaks as well as published articles regarding the CPU (unoptimizations) and memory leaks.
prime jasper
none of those showed actual memory leak and like i said the perdormace is bad due to other problems with the game. denuvo isnt helping either
high memory usage isnt automatically an memory leak and there is no indication that it is one
i had memory leak in apex dx12 when it first came in beta, my vram usage kept rising until it was 100%... this is not the case with jedi survivor, it never hits even 90%
small zinc
high memory usage isnt automatically an memory leak and there is no indication t...
Bro. You've got to be naive if you think that in any universe that UE4 has ever come close to using that amount of VRAM. Jedi Survivor using 16K textures?
Even the Crysis Remake using a highly updated CryEngine is using 8K textures, and doesn't even remotely come close to that.
prime jasper
this game is much more impressive tech wise than crysis
respawn really worked that engine
quick locust
Laptop users with 8GB vram on 4070:
small zinc
this game is much more impressive tech wise than crysis
That's subjective. Sabre Interactive did a pretty marvelous job of remaking all 3 Crysis games.
prime jasper
Laptop users with 8GB vram on 4070:
i still have 3070, i should have code for the game somewhere. lets see
small zinc
I get that Star Wars is certainly the more popular franchise, but it isn't anymore technically advanced than Crysis. Not until developers start using UE5 which has a host of updated technological enhancements. Global Illumination being primary
In my personal opinion I think that the CryEngine is a far superior engine from a standpoint of visual fidelity than UE4 is.
But that's me.
There's a reason why the running joke/meme has always been: "But can it run Crysis"?
It's funny to me that a game that is now 10 years old still pretty much rivals if not beats most modern AAA games in terms of visual fidelity. Crysis 3 has kind of always held the "standard" of how good games can look.
nocturne drift
Gamers Nexus prob purposely broke their 7800X 3D to get to the bottom of zen4 cpu burning.
Rip GN's 7800X 3D
My guess is he did a debeaur using Asus older bios and manually set a high voltage.
midnight crypt
his didnt die though
nocturne drift
He broke a 7950X 3D in Asus headquarters while overclocking
midnight crypt
sure but not the one in his recent video
pale quartz
People suspect is the io die?
SOC voltage, motherboard manufacturers were allowing voltage to scale on auto frequency outside of the base specifications by default cause they're morons, why overclocking has to go away
it's the exact same situation on why voltages were explicitly locked down for the 5800x3d, MB manufacturers trying to one up each other on benchmarks is (literally) causing parts to die
there's also some other fuckery where MB bioses have voltage scaling according to EXPO when its entirely separate and shouldn't even be linked from the getgo
nocturne drift
SOC voltage, motherboard manufacturers were allowing voltage to scale on auto fr...
We are gonna find out soon.
I mean I know how amd cpu works and know it's pbo behavior could make cpu unstable. I've had multiple personal experience and also from big techtubers. This whole thing bulges is beyond me lol.
nocturne drift
SOC voltage, motherboard manufacturers were allowing voltage to scale on auto fr...
I remember z490 early bios Asus jack up the vccsa to 1.6v and wear out the imc on 10th gen
But going kaboom is beyond me holy.
pale quartz
IOD's on zen are very voltage sensitive, tldr
nocturne drift
Yeah I know zen2-3 I never tell people to go over 1.15v
rough scarab
I remember z490 early bios Asus jack up the vccsa to 1.6v and wear out the imc o...
I could be wrong but I think that only happened with people using xmp with auto voltages for kits over 4000mhz
pale quartz
I could be wrong but I think that only happened with people using xmp with auto ...
no it's regardless
JEDEC for DDR5 is 5200MHz, 4000 isn't even a speed kit it's that slow for DDR5
nocturne drift
I could be wrong but I think that only happened with people using xmp with auto ...
U are right but still
nocturne drift
It's like 6000 for zen4 ddr5
rough scarab
my auto voltages from expo didn't do anything crazy like 1.3+ vsoc but I have them all set now so idrc
prime jasper
Twitter
molten flame
runic spear
quick locust
Intel: already there son