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and take it directly to the intake
there is a bonus of the ac already comming with filters
do u have central heating and cooling?
go and buy aluminum ducting and tape it from ur cooling vent into ur pc intake ,LOL
lol
its 17 bucks
ill just put the fan in a slight angle from the front so it sort of push the air into the case but also out of the back
actually might try this
honestly my issue isnt the pc cooling
its the exhaust
its heating my room by like 3 degrees C
lol
i hope this will give my gpu headroom to keep the higher clocks its reaching before getting too hot and clocking down again
my gpu is gonna be heat up no matter what i do
bc of the shit airflow in my case
rip
my computer case is also pretty shitty
i built this pc when i was in comunity college
my thinking was i wanted a small case bc im gonna have to move when i transfer to university
and it worked well for that part
but now after im already in uni it just shit airflow lol
i mean urs is still fine it still has extra breathing room
maybe add more fans tho lol
on the exhaust
i have two in the front and an exhaust
oh i didnt realize the exhaust already has a fan
i mean 2 in and 1 out is the ideal config
positive presure keeps dust away
the fan will be delievered this friday
i have 3 in and 2 out for mine
because i have a rad in the front
so i need the extra fan
nice
ehh, 3080 runs pretty warm, and with this many fans i can run them around 1k rpm each and not hear them at all
neat
plus thees fans are cheap
40 bucks for a pack of 5
nah overkill is having 11 Noctua industrial PPC fans
lmao
this is what peak peformance looks like
this thing is water proof, 3000rpm and basicly last the entire lifetime of ur pc
its hard to recommend fans over 15 bucks when arctic p12's exist
its noctua tho
i have an unused noctua nh-d15 just laying around lol
i know 11 28$ fans is ridiculous lol
arctic p12 are like.. 95% of the performance and costs like.. 8 bucks if you buy the 5 pack
actually.. they are 30 bucks now for the 5 back, so 6 bucks..
true but hey dont u want the option to run ur fans at 3000rpm??
i have a fan profile called "full throttle " that maxes out the rpm of every fan on my pc lol
just for the memes
Can I run battlefield 2042 on my amd athlon 64 x2 and RTX 4090 with 2gb of ddr3 ram?
Hopefully the RYX 4090 was a good investment 🙏
Yes 🙌
I’ve just been jamming in new graphics cards into my dell 2005 tower for years and I’ve had no issues
You won't be able to run 2042 with that set up you need a new CPU to compliment it.
You have a good CPU for its time but it's 15 years old now.
Damn what? I could get medium settings on bf3 with my r9 280x combo with my athlon 64
Any ideas when the Alienware laptop is on sales on dell website ?
You telling me I wasted my money on this RTX 4090vv
That's 2011 game versus a 2021 game.
No you didn't waste money but you need a recent CPU to compliment it.
The 4090 is very, very good. But it needs a CPU from the same gen to work with it.
Personally.
I'd recommend you get a 5800x3d and you'll literally be set.
Kind of yes. Even a 3080 would be severely capped by a cpu that old. I barely saw performance gains when I went from a 1080 to my 3080 paired with a 4790k.
brown PCB 
shit was 130 bucks
ah figured it was a SFF case
might take one or two 15mm thick 120mm Arctic fans and tape them in there as intakes
need a new cooler to replace the stock cooler I'm using because my X3D is toasty

I do have it underclocked tho
Daily reminder to Give your 5800x3d some love.
Just don't go too far.
Oh no 
Bro upgrade everything except the gpu
Like min 16 gigs of ddr5 ram and recent gen 8 core cpu MIN
Cant run shit with that config
You ok.
in general maybe, that 5800x3d love was sus though
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4050 has 96-bit memory with 6GB

why...
i bought a large tablefan and placed it towards my computer and now my gpu is able to maintain higher clocks
it actually works for a while atleast
lol
smart
ye
it will gather dust like crazy tho
sadge
the last of us is crazy tho, how can a remaster of a 10 year old game eat almost 14gb vram and over 20gb ram
at 4k
because its a remake and not a remaster
and apparently ported by ND themselves, who have never done a PC port
nah it was by some bad company
forgot the name
idk why sony didnt use nixxon tho who made a perfect port of spiderman
sony bought nixxon for that very reason
lol
oh so its not iron galaxy?
people keep saying it was their fault all over the net
lol
apparently iron galaxys logo pops up while launching the game
the game got its own wannabe ray tracing tho with multibouncing lights
maybe i should try to turn that off and see if i can maintain 60fps
maybe its a good thing im kind of "forced" to wait a bit before getting it
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GeForce RTX 4070 MSRP to match RTX 3070 Ti The RTX 4070 to be $200 cheaper than the RTX 4070 Ti. The company has reportedly settled on RTX 4070 non-Ti SKU price at $599. This information was confirmed during a press briefing, which usually takes place before each launch. Reviewers are now expecting their RTX […]
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FINALLY lol
I still feel like 600 is still a reach too
mind you, the 4070 has same VRAM as 4070Ti, but it has 26% less shaders than the 4070Ti, also slightly lower clocks
it will be right in the middle of the 3070Ti and 3080 in performance
3080 will leave it 10-15% behind at higher res because of memory bus
Considering the price point of the 3070ti and 3080, 599 is more than appropriate of a price point.
yeah but it will definitely be above msrp for a while
3080 is end of production
think 3070ti might be too
Honestly at the rate at which Nvidia releases new generations that are ridiculously pricy with not much vram, might as well go with an AMD at this point
7900XT has more than enough vram and performance to last a few years.
I can do without the raytracing.
Even though it's a nice feature.
still waiting for software to use the AI cores on RX 7000
unfortunately amd gpus always seem to drop the ball feature and stability wise whenever they can "easily" take market share
Nvidia and AMD drivers been pretty bad this year
Agreed on that
I'm optimistic about the AMD 8000 series GPUs and CPUs though.
eh, i just wait and see
think RDNA4 will finally have GCDs as chiplets instead of only memory/cache chiplets
imagine when 7800X3D is on sale for $300-350 next year
Oh boy.
Will be a good buy
Apparently it significantly beats the 5800x3d
Comes out in a week
I love the 5800x3d.
It does so much.
If it beats it by a crazy amount then I wonder how much further 9800x3d will.
According to SiSoft SANDRA, it's a 37% performance boost
It outperforms the Ryzen 9 5900x as well
thats what im waiting on
I hear A620 motherboards will only run 7000/7000X3D CPUs with 65-120W TDP but not the debut 7000X series with 170W TDP
should run only 7600X from the X series
ye my motherboard can be upgraded to a 5800x3d if i need it
im keeping my ace hidden
lol
3900x is enough to give 60fps at 4k now tho
my 5800X3D might last me until 3rd gen AM5 or what comes after LGA1851
at 4k im still limited by my 3090
and nvidia claimed 3090 was an 8k gaming card at release
lol
not that anyone believed them tho
Please get the 7800X 3D
7950X 3D is not phenomenal
I have one and not disappointed. Definitely made a difference for my 4090.
And go ahead and ignore anything Mazda says. He's just salty that the 7950x3d outperforms his 13900ks. Even on much slower Memory frequencies and timings.
Technically from a gaming standpoint, the 7800x3d will likely perform just as well if not better than the 7950x3d because of how the CCX's are laid out on the 7950. However also depends on what you want out of it. Either way, the entire 3D stacked v-cache Zen 4 CPU line-up outperforms anything Intel has, at least in raw gaming benchmarks.
The fact that you have to overclock a 13900ks to 6 ghz, and its associated memory to 8000 MT/s just to even remotely stay relevant....
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my gpu goes up to beyond 2050hz core clock when im not under full load and temps but then when i really need it it clocks down to like 1750hz. i was able to bring up the clock to like 1820 by adding an extra fan. do you think i would be able to maintain that 2050hz clock if i somehow raise the cooling enough?
3090
Yeah nope.
That's 320w if I remember correctly
30 series isn't very efficient just undervolt it to around 1800+ for 1440p to 4k ur fine.
My 480w strix hit 80c core 96+c hotspot no matter what thermal compound I use.
alright
some people say that the zotac is able to maintain higher clocks tho but that the bios suck and have achieved better and more results by switching to a similar gigabyte vbios
If u are confident with urself then u can repaste, but idk the thermal pads situation for zotac and how brittle they are
but im afraid to brick it
I'd say don't bother. I use to be one of those people but I no longer dragon chase.
The build I do on Monday on hero I am aiming for 7600 cl34. Nothing crazy
It's gonna be the fastest cpu anyways for my use case, 2042,fornite and destiny 2 anyways
nice
if 4070ti only had 16gb vram instead of 12 i would switch to that
but many games i play exceed 12gb vram at 4k
Yeah def do not. If u want upgrade don't u want at least more than 10-15% performance uplift lol
Or it's just a side grade
i increased the speed of my tablefan thats directed to the gpu and now the core clock is stable around 1890hz under load
idk if its worth the noise tho
lol
sounds like a serverroom
my card is really sensitive to temps. wish i could just raise the templimit a little
if you use a headset it's not going to be a problem lol
thing is that i have headphones on but it still goes through
lol
i wanna play games like the last of us and the fannoise kind of ruins that silent scary feeling
now 3dmark say that im from earlier below average 3090 scores to above average
apparently my computer is faster than over 80% of computers
all the computers at the top use two 3090 in sli
coolers are gonna keep getting bigger too because of smaller transistors
4090 is around 3080Ti/3090 in efficiency but needs beefier cooling than 3090Ti
Nah 4090 can draw up to 600W
And 4090 drawing 600W is still cooler than 3090s drawing 350
What happens when a 4090 is almost 2X faster
techpowerup only reporting 340 watts with stock 4090 when gaming
founders edition 4090
it's also hard to get a 4090 to max out in some games because CPUs just can't keep up with it
next-gen Blackwell GPUs probably won't ever touch 90% utilization unless at 8K with RT 
pretty much proves that the 6700XT is a better choice than the 3070 in the long run
should expect to see more of this performance trend with Sony-ported titles
rip 3070 ti
10GB/12GB the new meta for 1440p
8GB now for 1080p
4050 only has 6GB on a 96-bit bus lmao, only good for esports imo
maybe running new AAA games at low/medium settings
8GB suits the 3050 well but having only 6GB on a new GPU that's supposed to be faster than 3050 is forbidding
16GB club

yeah lol, limits it from newer AAA games a bit
though less than 1050 which only had 2GB
and RTX 2050 which is lowest ampere gpu only had 4GB
yes but no
a large part of it which is never talked about is nvidias driver overhead
it cuts the cards native performance by 10-15%
What's their reason for doing that
2077RT ez
it's not intentional
nvidias driver stack just has an inherit performance penalty
Ah makes sense
Don't all driver stacks have an overhead, in which case the above numbers don't mean much unless you have something to compare to?
honestly not as bad as i expected giving the general outlook online about the port
which i guess going by the internet, and especially gamers, its never as bad as its made out to be
It's just ultra settings which wrecks 8GB cards thats all the drama I guess
Though heard its a bit buggy too
they do not, the driver overhead comes into play with CPU limitations, and well the only other GPU vendor is AMD, so there's that
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Dang thats fast.
Yeah again this is why we don’t listen to Mazda. The 4090 doesn’t draw anywhere close to 600 watts
It might get up to 450-500 watts on initial power on, but under load it doesn’t do that.
Wasn't even responding to that part with Mazda lol. Just leave him be.
hello guys, is there a tech support on this discord?
just bought 2042, cannot even start it, everything looks like in terms of drivers etc, the sound is also cut when starting it
nope
if someone has some tips...... : (
I blocked him lol
He is a joke
I mean everyone here knows so no worries.
This is why all my friends have 300 usd 2080ti
I saw this crap coming
I think I got 4 2080ti for 300 or less last year and I still have one for myself.
Also I delided my 13900ks it wasn't too bad. I am abit rusty tho. I am waiting on a fan splitter and it's time to build
I remember years ago watch dog legion was using almost 12gb vram at ultra.
never much used stuff here, wish it was that cheap
Ngl now looking back 6900xt kinda goated
When both intel and amd have 7900X and u get confused in marketplace. 💀
Is their any rumors of mnk compatibility for consoles?
Just all core. I just wanna play games.
everytime my card powers down or switch state it makes this roaring sound with the fans
its getting abit annoying
i called a support to see if it had some hotspot overtemp or whatever and he said its normal for my card
its like it power up the fans from minimum to fastest extremely fast and then down again in a matter of a second
which makes this distinct sound
i wonder if i can send my card to noctua and have them replace the cooler with their fans

Bruh u be doing too much
What's a good gaming mouse and keyboard combo, something close to £250, the mouse needs DPI Adjustment, Extra clicker next to the left mouse button and the software actually friggin works. I got a logitech mouse but the software has never worked nor has ever saved the button configs
skill issue
He blocked me anyways. He still expands all my messages and pretends he doesn't read them, but Mazda is an idiot. He knows virtually nothing about PC's. Any advice he offers can be pretty much immediately disregarded.
Personally don't have any issues with Corsair products. iCue software works pretty well, and Corsair does have amongst some of the best customer service and warranties in the industry. Obviously " best" is subjective, but I do like the M65 mouse personally and can never go wrong with a K70 keyboard.
Get a Keychron Q1 Pro and a Keychron M3 mouse (theres also a 59g M4 mouse coming out this month). Keyboard is around $150 fully built, and the mouse is around $50. Super simple software, all gets mapped to the on-board memory so you don't need any junk running that doesn't need to be. Well under your budget and much higher quality than the generic "gaming" brands out there. Get M3 for the RGB if that's your thing, but I'd personally get the M4 mouse as it's the same weight as a G Pro X superlight.
They also do every keyboard layout imaginable in their Q series too, the Q1 Pro just adds bluetooth if you ever need it for non-gaming devices.
I got a keychron V1 recently
despite these keyboards not being marketed towards gaming they are better than the majority of gaming keyboards
The Corsair K100 pretty much destroys the Keychron in every way
But you also pay for it
K100 has an 8,000 hz polling rate. 8x faster than the V1. Also OPX switches
Kind of reinforces mine and @prime jasper points though. It's very much marketing for the most part. The majority of people aren't going to notice the few ms of difference between a "gaming" branded keyboard and a normal mechanical keyboard from Keychron. They certainly won't notice the fractions of a ms difference between 8000hz and 1000hz. The corsair boards are ridiculously overpriced, lack customisation/repairability like many "gaming" keyboards, and specifically to @winter tangle 's needs they crucially use iCue which is significantly worse than any Logitech software.
iCue specifically is such a pretentious nerd trap that it's best avoided by all but those who wish to spend hours understanding how to use that monstrosity. Corsair make great hardware, but the software is very clearly designed and maintained by the programmers behind it, which is not a good thing. A developer's mind is a beautiful thing, but the biggest shortcoming is always explaining things to a non-technical audience. That's where Corsair should be hiring a badass UI/UX team to collaborate with them and turn that mess into something functional for everyone.
If its 50 dollars they cheaped out on something. If that something is sensor it won't be good for gaming.
Actually not the sensor but switches 💀
But other than technical specs mouse is preference and you cant know if you like it until you tried it. Weight and shape feels different to everyone
It's obviously subjective. The K100 is a well built keyboard and I personally own it and also don't have any issues with iCue. Marketing gimmicks? Perhaps, however what I do trust is the peace of mind with Corsair. Like you said yourself, their hardware is extremely well built and not cheaply built like other "gaming" keyboards. They do in fact stick behind their warranties, and my personal interaction with their customer service places them automatically to the top of any recommendation. Do you need to spend $200+ on just a keyboard? No, but as I mentioned before the customizability of the K100 in particular along with it's insane polling rate, and OPX switches makes it a superior keyboard to Keychron. But that's my opinion. The keyboard isn't for everyone, but I wouldn't by any stretch place it in the category of "generic gaming keyboards".
Uses the top end pixart sensor. They haven't cheaped out on anything and the Rtings review shows this. Shape is definitely a preference though and they use a more unusual shape than most, probably closer to the usual Logi G Pro? Favours left and right usage over one specific style. The switches in my G Pro X SL are cheap and nasty, as is the build quality in general for a >£100 mouse. Seems to be that you need good soldering skills to get decent switches :/
Fair enough, completely agree in regards to the hardware and quality. I've only ever had a problem with one of their older mechanicals when they were just starting out with them, the LEDs died very quickly. This was back in the days of the old two-prong pass through diodes though, prone to failures on all OEM boards. The K70 I owned after that was an absolute tank to the point where my partner bought the RGB version... She left it on the default settings as iCue made it incredibly difficult just to set a different pattern, let alone save it to the onboard memory so that it applied when powered on instead of at boot.
They also do nice MMO mice.... which aren't bound to keys 1 through 10 and '-'/'+' out of the box. iCue made it impossible to actually remap these without setting macros up so that they worked as num row keys like every single other mmo/moba mouse. Then it won't let you save all of these macros to onboard memory, meaning you need to leave iCue running, which is fine until a game simply does not recognise the mouse or the iCue bindings. The mouse went back to Amazon and Razer of all companies made me happy with their basic Naga X mouse. Hardware cheap as turd as with all Razer products, but surprisingly Synapse out of all the OEM softwares I've used made it super simple to customise, save to mouse storage, and then delete the software for good.
Anyone with brain understands you absolutely cheaped out on something if you sell that mouse for 50 dollars
There just isn't a way you can make a mouse that would have 100 dollars worth of quality but you sell it for 50.
Im not saying it's bad mouse. It's just too cheap to be up there with 100 dollars ones
i think i got my steelseries rival 310 on sale for not much more than 50 dollars tho
60 or 70
i think they sold it here for over 80 dollars tho
so 50 dollars for wireless that claims to be good as others that cost 100€ yeah we seen stuff like that before
there is always something that isnt as good
its just not possible
they run business
im oldfashioned and never use wireless cuz of latency
latency isn't a problem
i bought a keyboard that some sites said was a perfect competitive gaming keyboard so i didnt think more about it and got it. however i recently looked it up on rtings for fun and it has 11ms latency compared to some keyboards that have like 0.4. if i had only gotten the fullsized version instead of tkl one which both had the same price it would only have 0.7ms latency for some reason
so im kinda pissed
it cost over 150usd so not supercheap either
now i kind of want to get a corsair k100, but that would be such a waste of the money i already spent
since im just a casual gamer i probably shouldnt
rtings only had the veriant of my keyboard with regular mechanical switches and mine are optic tho
so it might be different
i have kailh red mechanical switches
my switches feel like regular mx red once
wooting two sounds cool with analog once tho
and u can set ur own trigger points
Silent alpaca switches
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Or they just aren't as obsessed with ripping off customer's as the big "gaming" players. But hey, if you wanna get all defensive and make yourself feel better about dumping large amounts of cash on plastic tat then by all means 🙂
It's not like outlets such as Rtings try to be as objective as possible when testing mice 🙃
It really depends. There's the part where you spend what you need on what you want versus spending too much on what you don't need.
I spent 200 AUD on a keyboard I knew I needed because my cheap wireless keyboard was dying and I wanted a dedicated keyboard.
Same on mice, keyboards and monitors.
there was a trend here where rich people at clubs would buy several of the most expensive champagne only to pour it out in the toilet or whatever
lol
now thats smart spending

a guy picked up on the idea and started a service where you sent a guy money over the phone and got a note saying that he had poured out a champagne for you
and people actually used that
They are testing the mice as 50 dollars mice. There is difference. They expect 50 dollars not 100. You don't get it do you?
And you just made lot of assumptions that we spend crazy amounts of money for stuff just because it's for gaming.
They're selling the same hardware at 50 dollars and still making a profit. Others sell the same hardware at 100 dollars and it's a superior product? Higher price doesn't always mean higher quality, you realise this?
You'd have to be a very blind consumer to believe that something isn't as good because it costs less. Up there with the iPhone snobs who believe Apple is god.
i mean higher price doesn't necessarily mean higher quality product but it is an indication of the target audiencce
people who will spend 200+$ on a mouse tend to care more about the quality of the product, like if ur gonna spend ona 1700$ chair it better be a quality chair sorta deal
honestly gaming hardware nowadays is cheap
one of the best fps gaming mouse can be had for 50 bucks now
8k polling, ultra light for only 50 bucks is really good already
"same hardware" obviously not when its half the price.
if you can find any mouse with 100 dollars price and same hardware as your suggestion feel free to show it
i'll wait
what mouse are u guys arguing about anyways
nothing exact with the actual premium products, the guy said his keychron m3 is same quality or better as g pro superlight 
and costs 50 dollars
dafq is keychron
not really mouse manufacturer, mostly known for keyboards
it is
i think razer has an exclusive pixar sensor rn which is their 30k pro sensor
This "logic" is fucking hilarious lmao
You poor thing
its common sense
and you still havent showed anything for your claims
until that i will ignore you
Brb guys gonna go buy an iMac as it's worth more than my PC so must be better
For anyone with half a brain cell who is interested in a mouse but doesn't want to pay Logitech/Razer tax 🙂
59g M4 without RGB out this month.
Can't believe I let an incel bait me into posting the link, but it is what it is.
i will ignore the personal attack because i already found on quality issue. that's at least 10 dollars to replace mouse feet.
"there's a minor degree of flexibility and some creaking if you squeeze the body in certain spots. Also, you can activate the side buttons if you squeeze into the panels. These two minor issues are fairly typical with mice at this price point"
who would had thought 50 dollars dont get you 100 dollars build quality
this review proves enerything i have said
Great info there, i'll take a look at the suggestions, i was thinking corsair or razr tbf
At the end of the day they're all solid options, my preference will always be value. Doesn't matter what the specs are as we're all limited by our body and mind as opposed to the chunks of metal and plastic that lay before us.
true that
Yo what’s the best Grafic card for full hd 100fps+
Maybe gtx 3060 ti?
Depends on the game
But 6650xt is pretty cheap
And 6600xt
6700xt too, same price as 3060 here
What resolution?
Is 6700xt better then 3060 and 3060 ti?
1080p probably
same performance
Intel 12400, 6700xt maybe
I wanna upgrade my monitor to in the future to 1440p
Around 3060 ti
There's also the matter of the kind of games you want to play on 1440p.
I don't think it's impossible but if you were to play much more recent games on 1440p you'll get at least 60 frames.
Hey, just upgraded my pc to an r5 5600 and rtx 3070, just played a match at 1440p ultra to check everything was working. I was getting stable 100fps, but my cpu was at a constant 100%. Is this normal? I feel like an 5600 shouldn't really bottleneck rtx 3070
yes it's normal
Is bf2042 really that cpu heavy? Just loaded up BF1 and yep, it is at 7% lol
yeah in 128p matches it's heavy
Turn xmp on.
I have
5600 and 5600x should be basically the same right?
Yeah they are.
The x has its own clocks altered.
Your 5600 can hit the same through configuration.
Alright, well i'll play around with some settings and see what i can come up with
Match your chip to the x clock until you get better cooler easy.
Keep in mind too.
2042 is a hot game. High temps are normal. Just don't hit 100+.
Pcs are overrated
No u
I'd prefer wireless but the K95 isn't wireless but what are your thoughts on these 2
Then i can move onto the mice
meh i can always take the palm rest off, i think i would prefer wireless keyboard and mouse so not too sure which to go for, judging by the office type full keyboard i'm using know i don't really need numpads either...
sounds like its an easy pick then
"artisan" keyboards > gaming keyboards
what do you mean by artisan?
more boutique brands that dont upsell for marketing/sponsorships
as far as build quality goes they will destroy 99% of gaming keyboards
the only real place gaming keyboards shine is with RGB and software
for example
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something extremely niche (southpaw keyboard), that comes with a full alumium body, double gasket mounting, hot swap switches, double shot pbt keycaps, etc.. is the same price as the corsair k95
tldr, as far as quality is concerned, you can generally spend half the price on a "boutique" brand and get the same quality as a gaming brand
https://drop.com/mechanical-keyboards/drops/?sc=keyboards
Drop has some nice keyboards
I don't like mech keyboards tho, they are too loud
I used to live with a roommate with a very loud mechanical keyboard, kinda makes me hate mech key now
a double gasket mounted keyboard with boba u4 switches would be stupid quiet
he probably had a cheap gaming keyboard that was all plastic with shitty mats/tolerances and used cherry blue switches
yeah probably, was in 2015 when I was still living in dorms
Gateron G Pro Blue vs Gazzew Bobagum Silent Linear Switches!
typical "clicky" blue switch vs a premium silent switch
of course how its mounted and the materials change the sound a lot as well
jeez even the "slient" switch is still too loud for me
i can guarantee you its no louder than a membrane keyboard
think is i'm not after a loud mechanical keyboard and membrane i've heard isn't the best so i'm not too sure what to look for then
just quick searches show cherry switches to be alright but i might be wrong?
I don't really need all the RGB stuff on my keyboard, the only thing i need a software for is to customise mouse buttons
i've got a G500 hero i think but i can't customise the buttons because the software never fking works
plus it's wired and the wire annoys me
depends on what you need a keyboard for
a mechanical keyboard isn't gonna give you a lot of gaming performance, if any
i might work on the pc now and again but it's mainly for gaming
just something that's comfortable not too loud and functions correctly, i don't need customisable buttons on a keyboard
as long as the wireless resposne times are good i'm not fussed tbh
the mouse i'll probably go corsair so i thought i'd look at corsair keyboards, i've heard the iCUE software works atleast, works on the RGB on my tower and software functions so theoretically it'll allow me to customise mouse buttons
Emerald Rapids CPU
large
i think youre confused, im not suggesting a loud keyboard
membrane is just the standard office keyboard, its just a point of comparison
(since most people think mech keyboards are loud, when they CAN be extremely quiet, its just most mech keyboards are cheaply built and use shitty/loud switches)
flat laptop keyboard is where it's at for me 
and cats is right, as far as performance goes between keyboards, its marginal and doesnt matter at all
you ARE talking about binary inputs that are just on and off
so as long as "response time" of those keystrokes isnt bad, it wont matter
imo, corsair doesnt have a single decent mouse, let alone every corsair mouse ive known anyone to own (myself included) broke around a year after moderate use
unless you play racing games, where long/short key strokes matter a little bit
but then you can bind speed up/down to different keys so whatever
anyone playing racing games wouldnt be using a keyboard
New generation of Intel CPUs?
corsair keyboards are good
I'm out of the loop
I use the steam controller for racing games lol
Agree. I use a corsair mouse and keyboard and i've been very happy w/it.
binary inputs for racing games is generally horrible
It's a mid-range keyboard but it does the job
they are decent, but way overpriced
Which is why you wait for them to go on sale.
And there's usually a lot of them on sale at any given time.
you are paying for sponsorships, marketing and other things
True but they last and they're comfortable.
And customizable if RGB is your thing.
id argue corsair keyboards are only a decent deal on sale
Got mine on sale
I wouldn't have otherwise.
and plenty other brands will last longer (i can almost guarantee that) and are as comfortable, if not more
especially hot swappable keyboards
considering switches are the main point of failure for a keyboard
for around 200 bucks i would suggest Keychron Q1 Pro
granted i think that one is constantly sold out
for mice, theres a lot of options...
generally i dont write off entire brands for things
but honestly, corsair mice is one brand im comfortable never suggesting
I'll die on the logitech g502 hill

That's a nice mouse
Or even better
The amazon basics mouse
for 7 bucks
Works fine
😎
g502 meme brick mouse
So would this be a viable option? Or can you guys recommend me some brands to look at
That's the one I got g502
Good decent mouse can't customise shit on it....
So yh basically a brick would be better
The software doesn't work for me
Never has
I've tried everything I can't customise the buttons
If I could I wouldn't be in the market for another mouse
are you sure youre doing it correctly
yea ive never heard anyone say they have problems with programming their logi mouse
Well the software isn't working for me at all so I can't
if i were to suggest a general brand for value, itd be keychron
as far as mice go logi and razer are the obvious go to's
other choices would be lamzu and pulsar imo
huntsman v2 is actually on sale, i would probably pick this up personally https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Huntsman-Tenkeyless-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B09C13WYDX/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=huntsman+v2+tkl&sr=8-3
tempted
but i really do need my numpad lol
all my homies hate numpads
well i use my keyboard for both gaming and productivity so
separate numpad for southpaw advantage
whats wrong with corsair mice
I use a dark core I like it
partly because my hand is big
I was g502 before tho great mouse
I’ve never seen one last more than 2 years, most of them failed around the year mark. I’ve never seen them make more than a mid mouse, especially for fps.
Out of the several mouse enthusiasts i follow, none of them have ever said anything good for Corsair mice. That doesn’t mean they are outright bad, don’t function, etc. they are typically just the 5th choice behind other mice for the same price.
fair enough, I switched to it cause g502 left click kinda broke.
the current mouse is 3 years old and going but my sample size is too small
I got it solely because icue controls it so 1 bloatware instead of 2
My first two serious mice purchases were both Corsair mice. Both broke pretty quick and I swore them off since. A bit biased but I’ve probably personally known at least 7 other people have similar stories.
damn
Yea I wasn’t make a lot of money then, so a 50 dollar mouse was a huge purchase.
thats no where close to evga 30 series stories I know but not bad

yeah I dont feel like running both icue and g hub in the background
also building the PC rn this 13 fans thing is challenging lol
What case?
I never actually run g hub anymore
Put the settings in on board memory and disabled startup launch for it
5000D
6 intake, 6 push-pull radiator exhaust, 1 rear exhaust
Oh I forgot the ram fan
14

It's the only way you can use them in those small ass cases.
Like installing a Lambo engine in a Kia. Yes you can do it, but should you 😄
Can anyone building me a pc for 900€?
totally
a sleeper 
if you make it small enough imagine gaming with a 4090 on a plane
i dont think the plugs under the seat of the planes can even support that much wattage lol
yea but i think plane seats only support upto 75watts lol
even gaming laptops cant charge with only that much
damn they have phone chargers that go over 75 watts these days
laptop chargers especially
Meanwhile my laptop with 45W barrel charger

So I upgraded my GPU this year to a RX6700XT, I'm planning on making a new PC by the end of this year
I need to know what would be the best CPU to pair with it?
Would a Ryzen 7 5800X3D work?
Yes if its reasonably priced
Not really its just slightly higher clocked version
X3D is a lot better though but theres not that many of them now
Do you already have an AM4 board
the AM4 platform is dead, theres no point buying a ryzen 5000 series processor
get a 7800x3d or a 7000 series processor
For value and performance? Absolutely. The 5800X3D is still one of the best CPU's on the market currently and also outperforms the 12900k by quite a bit. For $320, you really get a hell of a CPU
AM4 is far from dead
And all depends on your budget. The 5800X3D is going to outperform anything that isn't 7xxx X3D, or higher end Raptor Lake
From a gaming standpoint
Even an overclocked 12700k/12900k is still slower than the 5800x3d by about 3.6%
13% At stock speeds
So yeah. AM4 far from dead.
Zen 3+ with 3D cache on AM4 when
i imagine most people keep a cpu for about 5 years, which at that point id rather just buy whatever gives the best price to performance

I'll have the money that's not the issue
I guess your first question should have been what's your budget?
I just have other stuff and don't want to spend it all on a CPU
For CPU and Mobo I have around $600
I'd say spring for the 5800X3D and spend a bit more on your GPU. That 5800X3D is still a beastly CPU
that's RAM included
you targeting 1080p, 1440p, or 4K
6700XT isn't a bad GPU at all. Don't get me wrong. But the 5800X3D may be slightly "overkill" too. You will most certainly be "future proof" with that setup though if that's your budget.
Currently $320 on Amazon
whats msrp of 7800x3d?
$469
with 6700XT, you really don't need more than a 5600/5700X
i can google.. and shit its expensive
$10 more than the 5800x3d was at launch
If the 5600 is a better deal and won't be overkill for my PC i'd get that
7800x3d is nice and all. But he doesn't need it for that 6700xt. Honestly, price to performance wise, in that price range, you're not beating a 5800X3D. Hands down.
I'm not like super competitive I just wanna play vidya games at 60+ FPS
You're not beating a 5800X3D period for $320 bucks
5800x3d, with tomahawk mb and 32gb of ram is 543
I'd get 64GB of ram for some other games I play...
7800x3d alone is 470...
You read my mind. I was going to recommend that board to him for the price
i wonder how long till its even msrp anyway...
Still not enough ram for modded city skylines.
I meant DCS lol
i went with the b550 mb, hell he can probably get a cheaper mb too
alternatively get a 13700k, relatively cost efficient
Or. Just get a 5800x3d which spanks a 12700k
For $50 less too
12700k is $370 on Newegg currently. 5800X3D is $320 on Amazon
(he did say 13700k)
the real question I have is Smart access better with AMD GPU/CPU?
no
resizeable bar, aka SAM, isnt exclusive to one vendor
I misread. But still. His budget is $600. I'd stick with the 5800X3D which is going to be pretty similar performance to a 13700k for $100 cheaper.
eh i wouldn generalize it with "better"
Smart Access Memory is nice and all. But still relatively gimmicky. Might net you around ~~5% performance uplift at best.
5800X3D is $100 cheaper and a motherboard for it $150 cheaper than 13700K setup
can't compare them really
tomahawk
imo b550 tomahawk
its the go to
you can also get the gaming edge, iirc they are pretty similar but you will save a few bucks
It's your money obviously. Get what you like or want within your means. But given the price you gave us. The 5800X3D is kind of a no brainer. Considerably better performance than Alder Lake for cheaper. And honestly not that much inferior to Raptor Lake for ALOT cheaper.
That puts me just at $600 lol
But yep. A tomahawk B550 motherboard paired with a 5800X3D is going to be quite literally the absolute best "Bang For Buck" at that price range
I mean my 3 intensive games is DCS, 2042 and Squad
I mean besides that I play payday, carrier command and very low requirements game
It's more about "future proof".
I also play at 1080
And for $600, that rig will last you a good 5+ years for the games you play
1080p? Yeah, there's nothing a 5800X3D and 6700XT will remotely sneeze at. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if you could play the new Crysis reboot in "Can it Run Crysis" mode at a solid 30+ FPS
Not that you play that....But just giving you the idea of the performance of that level of rig
Hell of a build for all less than $1,000
(GPU and Storage included obviously)
Disregard. This guy is getting 100+ FPS in Crysis Remastered on a 6700XT.
Reason I use this as a benchmark game is because Sabre Interactive remastered the game using 8K textures, and eliminated draw distance. It's pretty damned intensive.
Literally the entire map/island is rendered
F
Oh def 13700k or 13600k.
Multi-player games
If u play single player game 5800X 3D or wait for 7800X 3D
U can also consider 7700X if u want to upgrade years later and update bios and just drop a cpu instead of going pretty much dead end
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My build has 14 fans lol.
It's going smoothly I think.... But it's just alot of work.
Can't wait to cable manage later 
If it closes its good.
think ima just get this in wireless
i've got the money on a gift card on amazon so i'm not losing out and it's wireless
anyone got any reasons why not?
180mm has much more airflow
question, why do you need wireless on a keyboard?
just don't wanna deal with a wire, looks cleaner, if if it's better to get wired i can get wired
its just not really necessary for a keyboard
for a mouse makes perfect sense, but not a keyboard
its down to you of course, i just wouldnt base a purchase on reducing a single wire to look better
i'm going to be looking at a mouse after this seeing as my logitech software never works so i'll be going razer or corsair on that
honestly id get a razer huntsman v2 and a razer wireless mouse
Question
For Futureproofing, I9 13900K or Ryzen 9 7900x
I'm leaning slightly towards the Ryzen 9 but I'm not sure.
still waiting on a viper mini...
I have n 75hz monitor can I play more than 75 fps?
yes
Yes just disable vsync
its recommended
i won't be really using the numpad section so don't need a full keyboard
would like the little bit of room i'll be getting
Ryzen I'd go for but either option you're fine.
razer huntsman vs comes with a tkl option
looks decent
I can't say how they will perform in future but the ryzen 9 is on a platform which is planned to support future cpu generations
if u are just gaming 7700X
I play DCS where a 3D cache would help a ton
whats DCS?
Honestly.
Digital combat simulator
I would recommend the 7800x3d over a regular 7900.
^
But that's because I love X3D.
military plane/jet simulator
3D V cache would be yuuge
The game apparently eats up ram
I have 32GB and it uses 27GB
yeah get 32GB at least for DCS
yeah I went with 13900ks cause I play 2042, destiny 2 and fortnite
and I know how to oc
I went with the 5800x3d cause it was on sale.
but if I play single player games mostly id do 7800X3D
Hehe x3d.

5800X3D is actually good, u can drop cheap ram on it back in the days
3200 even 3600 DDR4 is just as cheap as 2400/2666 kits these days lol
now idk 12700k goes on sale often and with a tuned bdie its not much a competition unless mostly single player game that fits inside the cache
yeah nanya ram all over the place
I think micron shifting to em 24/48gb dimms
so weird

brb returning my ram JK
11x2+3=25, thats how many cables I need to deal with, and thats just the fans

now I know why people prefer lian li's lego thingy
Cities Skylines: amateurs
What’s that
A setting in games that limits the fps to your refresh rate
And I can put this off and get more fps?
people with over 32GB ram have 1+ million population city

I dont understand
you won't get more FPS by turning off vertical sync, what it does is unlock the frame cap so you could theoretically get more frames, but if your pc is not producing those extra frames, you won't get them
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Okay im a pc noob I will buy a pc and I have a lot questions
Buy a gaming laptop with sickly overpriced premium, bam, rinse and repeat in 3 years
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@merry wagon I would go ahead and ignore Mazda. The 5800X3D absolutely spanks the 13600k for the same price.
As I mentioned earlier, you literally cannot find better bang for your buck when it comes to that price.
I was worried I cheaped out on my mic stand but this is a really nice mic boom arm for 40 bucks
/
what mic do u use ?
since i removed the sidecover and added a huge deskfan to the side of my computer both my gpu and cpu clocks higher. im afraid it will die from all the dust in time tho
yea good luck cleaning dust lol
i never have to clean dust from inside my pc just the filters every 2 months for me
I remember 12700k was 250 a couple days ago
soo many techtubers recommending that.
pair with cheap bdie thats the ultimate mid/budgetish combo
It's a cool combo it's just annoying dual rank kits are hard to find
at least from my experience
omg my world record still stands
my friend is loving that pc. my final build besides myself haha
timespy #1 still stands as well!
Coffee lake refresh with 2080Ti certified classic setup
im on 10850k+2080ti rn
pushing 200-300 fps in fortnite max setting dx12
also my new pc now works.
just gotta cable manage, tidy things up and mess around
the delid and contact frame worked, handle well over 300w without thermal throttling
on 360mm aio
Whats the difference between 6700xt and 3060ti
I dont understand what’s that I’m a noob
Basically GPU's have their own dedicated piece of RAM.
It's called Video RAM.
Running at certain graphic types will increase VRAM usage (& generally require more out of the card).
It's a bit difficult to describe.
VRAM is a type of video memory that uses GDDR, instead of DDR, the difference between both is GDDR is what's called NVM, non volatile memory, and DDR is volatile, all you need to know is VRAM is used within games to hold a variety of different storage related operations, e.g. textures, player models etc instead of main memory, in terms of both cards your experience will be mostly the same (just one is using geforce and the other is using Radeon), so pick whichever one you prefer
as things stand the 6800xt is slightly more expensive and crushes both cards, buy it if you can
what is your other components?
Idk
for people with no prior experience with computers, I'd suggest paying for a pre-built
does your friend know how to do it or he just says he does
He know how
going to be painful when your friend ruins your 200$ cpu
but there are sites where i can get a ready made one with my components or not?
that's called a prebuilt pc
Is it bad ?
your components are not guaranteed, they are at the decision of the company who build it
you can pick the components with some companies
and they're more expensive than building it yourself due to you paying for labour
it's a ok route for those not experienced
and they charge a premium, or a labour fee yeah
safest way to get into computers
or watch The Verge's video and electro-shock your motherboard 
Like look. Prebuilts while they can be full of stuff you do not need and ultimately could make something cheaper if you were to get the parts for yourself. They're relatively stress free.
You get the PC, It works.
If it doesn't it's all on the supplier.
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
8GB RX6600
16GB RAM DDR4
500GB NVME SSD
Gigabyte B550 GAMING X
What do u say ?
Decent, though you could get a better gpu than that
with 900 euro probably not, make sure that 16gb ram is two 8gb sticks and not a cheaper single 16gb stick
and 1tb cheap sata ssd so you don't run out of space after installing windows
Wanna build me one ?
Now build your OS from scratch
you'll need to be more specific with the memory, your performance will depend a lot on it
probably 1 stick of 16gb 2600mhz

i updated my windows and drivers now i get around 12500 points at port royal than my previous 13500
wtf
it say that average rtx 3090 got a score of 13300 something
well it indicates a performance loss
it doesn't
you have no idea if you regressed performance based on one statistic
stop worrying about benchmark software which is designed for overclocking performance and just play games
testing out several different games is the best way to estimate performance and stability
only thing ive been keeping track of is port royal. when i game i dont keep a close eye on fps etc
so its my way of testing things
lmao
lol
they are from a dell career event probably
I went to a job fair last week, my colleagues would go around exchanging our trinkets for other companies'
[redacted] thermo bottles for KPMG socks

pepsi had a bar with pepsi sodas and snacks
in the beginning of june stockholm has a food fair where tons of restaurants get to put up stands and sell smaller versions of their regular dishes. and it also have live performances and stuff
cant wait
sweden doesnt care about rona anymore
did it ever? they just recommeded us to keep distance but never enforced anything
lol
you don't care until it hits you. It hit me, hard 
ye i had covid. had pain and high fever for over a month
but ive said this many times before
lol
I'm coughing so much my jaw hurts like I got punched in the face
kinda makes sense. if there's an outbreak, the worst place to be at is at the place it gets treated due people that have symptoms will more likely be there.
well i had pain somewhere and called a doctor who said it could be cancer and i had to go look it up. turns out i have a tiny harmless cyst that sometimes cause pain but thats it
I need help, ive been trying to play bf4 and whenever I join a server it says ive been kicked by punkbuster
7800X3D benchmarks are out
Speaking of cpu
So far I got 40+k in cinebench
5.8ghz all P cores.
Gonna do e cores later.
7200 xmp is also stable.
So far so good. The only trouble I ran into was hwinfo clashing with icue making me think the rgb controller died lol
Did core isolation turn on or smth?
The win11 new I installed had core isolation on by default
welp, definitely seems like the next cpu ill be getting in a year or so
7800 X3D > 13900K all day long.
Public service announcement. NVMe drives are super cheap on Amazon right now
2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum for $156 right now
Samsung also has a hell of a sale on the 990 Pro for $144 on their site.
2TB version
Wonder if Mazda is going to be pissed a $449 CPU kind of destroys his $700 CPU.
LTT has been right after they started using their lab
Thank for calling out 79xx 3D
friends thanking me to wait for 7800X 3D rn since he just games.
glad he didnt get scammed by amd marketing
Hi Mazda. You know you're reading this. No matter how much you want to try and convince yourself that the 3D AMD Zen 4 CPU's are inferior to Raptor Lake, they're not. The 7800X3D is now officially the fastest gaming CPU in existence followed by a close 2nd with the 7950X3D. It's only about a 5 FPS difference between the two on average. No matter what you say, both still outperform your 13900ks overclocked and stupid memory timings.
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"1 blocked message"
Expands and reads messages when I type them, hence why he only has things to say to nobody in particular only after I type something
is animosity I forgot his name trying to talk to me?
ye
lol I don't even read his message
seems you live in his mind rent free with his last 2 comments
what cpu do you have?
13900ks at 5.8 p core rn
I wanna do e cores and cache next but I wanna play some games rn
nice, im still sitting on my 10700k
10700k is good tho
no complaints, especially since im not exactly gaming much right now either
yeah now after building this pc I realize I dont game much anymore
i had a daughter at the beginning of the year, so thats my excuse
I have alot of table tennis coaching/playing and my gaming hrs has just been some fortnite with friends D2 and 2042 for memes
oh congrats!
thank you, yea life gets in the way, good excuse though
4 GHz RDNA3 still coming 



