technology

[quick locust]

That's the data its based on

If you have a copy of the 1000 usd report then sure show

Not going to buy that

You can see the subtitle and your Q1 and Q2 numbers you quoted earlier is the same as here

[pale quartz]

this is JPRs actual data for 2018 market share

not this insane 35%

[quick locust]

damn 1000 usd well spent

[quick locust]

look at graph for 2018

its the same numbers, your chart is Q4 and Q3

with your "last year" market share as Q4 2017 in the graph

[pale quartz]

ah I see why it's 10%

JPR are factoring RDNA2 shipments only

stock production will have ceased near the end of that quarter for RDNA2, combine that with a 30%+ drop in shipments = cut in half shipments, it's not reflective of the actual market

[quick locust]

Source from report?

But yeah that graph I shared is the same data as the chart you sent, from JPRs reports

If it's an issue with them not counting RDNA3 then sure, JPR's problem

[pale quartz]

Jon Peddie noted in the new report: "The third quarter is usually the high point of the year for the GPU and PC suppliers, and even though the suppliers had guided down in Q2, the results came much below their expectations".

"All the companies gave various and sometimes similar reasons for the downturn: the shutdown of crypto mining, headwinds from China's zero-tolerance rules and rolling shutdowns, sanctions by the US, user situation from the purchasing run-up during Covid, the Osborne effect on AMD while gamers wait for the new AIBs, inflation and the higher prices of AIBs, overhang inventory run-down, and a bad moon out tonight".

"Generally, the feeling is Q4 shipments will be down, but ASPs will be up, supply will be fine, and everyone will have a happy holiday".

the data was gathered up until September, right up on when RDNA2 stock was drying up for ramping RDNA3 production, it's listed in JPRs own notes on the report

[quick locust]

That explains why rdna3 isn't in it, but still means AMD had less then than in years before

Meaning the 10% number is fine

Though, curious for Q4 data whenever it comes

[pale quartz]

no, it's not

[quick locust]

It is, for Q3

[pale quartz]

the numbers are reflecting nvidias oversupply, it isn't reflecting the GPU market share

Nvidia never did ramp down ampere stock like AMD did with RDNA2, they are supplied with 7 months worth of additional inventory according to their Q1 report for 2023 which they still need to sell, the numbers are deceptive for correlating

[quick locust]

If only AMD could produce rnda3 in numbers beyond 5

[pale quartz]

we can wish

[quick locust]

But yeah nvidia flooded the market in q3

Also surprised Intel is at 4% in it

Expected more like 0,1% lol

[pale quartz]

the numbers are going to be all over the place up until Q3 2023 for both vendors when demand and supply stabilises, we'll have an accurate picture then

Nvidia will have gotten rid of most of their oversupply by then and AMD should have a stable quantity of RDNA3 cards

[quick locust]

But the whole of rnda2 years they didn't break 24%, kinda wish they did

[pale quartz]

the numbers are favourable for intel because they had well, a non existent share to begin with, and a crash in demand from NV/AMD and intel beginning to ship then means they can artificially inflate numbers

[quick locust]

Also I assume the intel numbers sometimes going to 0,1% before arc is either margin of error or 1 dude buying a larrabee

[pale quartz]

in reality it's probably around 2% once that error margin is removed

[quick locust]

[pale quartz]

arcs supply is still a paper launch and they've got 0 intention of increasing supply with their Q1 report

[quick locust]

well theyre spamming them out rn

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-floods-european-market-with-arc-a750-gpus-french-retailer-has-1233-in-stock

[pale quartz]

least they're finally launching

only 6 months overdue

[quick locust]

So Q1 dreams

[quick locust]

More actually, meant to launch earlier than it did

[pale quartz]

they did technically launch, till some people decided to import buggy arc cards from China to test them

[quick locust]

at least plenty of them now

time for intel to oversupply

jk

[pale quartz]

that'll save intel money!

[molten coral]

So I’ve currently a 49” Samsung UW, as you can see in the picture the panel is breaking down or something as when this happens I’ve to pull the plug from the monitor and power cycle the monitor so it works normally again.

Now I’m looking for a new monitor, preferably a little bit smaller than this and a bit more height and I was wondering if anyone has some suggestions.

Now I saw this monitor which peaked my interest as I like the width and height but it’s 1700USD which is quite expensive.. https://youtu.be/9ak4ULggeYM

[pale quartz]

Samsung are releasing quantum dot OLED shortly, so if you can survive until then get it, otherwise the LG C2 or the Alienware aw34

actually you may already have it available, search for the OLED G8

[molten coral]

Hmm let me have a look

[pale quartz]

the AW34 does have a QD-OLED panel, next best option

[molten coral]

I see that the G8 is in a store nearby I’ll have a look tomorrow. I’ve to say I’m not sure how I feel about going back to 34” after gaming in 32:9 for 5 years.

But just gonna have to checkout some monitors

Ohh they also have the AW34

[pale quartz]

both are solid options

[nocturne drift]

I tested zen4 today, 7900X

solid clock speed

pbo is agressive holy

One MAJOR problem the core to core delta temp is mad. I got 30c delta

stock pbo2 core 0 66c, core 3 96c. This is with the customer remounting it 2 times.

30c delta is crazy

The power draw is not bad at all. it did 5.3 ghz all core at 1.24v asus llc5 drawing only 160ish watts. Problem is with a 360mm aio core 0 is 61c and core 3 is 85c.

what in the ihs are they using.

zen4 delid is the meta?

Funny thing is the reason why the customer's PC crashes was NORTON

GOOD OLE NORTON

[left cargo]

If my computer has an i5-12500h cpu, does that fall short of the requirements to play battlefield 2042?

[molten coral]

Size wise I think the C2 is amazing, like not too big not too small.

[prime jasper]

would be slightly too large from that range imo

[molten coral]

My desk is a bit deeper than the desk in the picture so would be fine for me I think

[prime jasper]

Only one way to find out

[errant cypress]

I bought a 48 inch c2 but it's for ps5

[dry pike]

CPU wise it should not be that bad. It DOES have 12 cores although 8 are efficiency ones. With laptops it can be hard to say though, it depends on the cooling.

[molten flame]

They should go back to AM4 heatspreader but I think the configuration of the resistors prevent that

[nocturne drift]

I think it's to match the height of the AM4 platform. I wish they didn't cause clock speed and power draw is good.

Power draw at 100% load that is

[left cargo]

ty kind stranger

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/9BwNt6PD-00

I love skatterbencher

Explaining everything in such detail

Asus give him a raise lol

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCzXdLmjPY&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[nocturne drift]

Honestly not bad. Best stock performance maybe using 6000 xmp ram. Ridiculously more power efficient

6% faster than 13900k using 6000 overall tested by amd.

Glad I got the 13900ks for 500. Will be the fastest cpu for now when maxed out. But ngl not to bad.

Although 7800X 3D should be a banger. If u can pbo2 on it. So AM5 users should wait till April

[pale quartz]

you can PBO2 it

[nocturne drift]

I saw from the skatterbencher video

Really good.

Hope 7800X 3D bin isn't trash tho.

[nocturne drift]

Can u static oc it?

[pale quartz]

PBO is auto

you could theoretically but makes no sense to

[nocturne drift]

I static oc ed a 7900X 2 days ago and I was impressed

5.3ghz all core at just 1.24v

I'd do alot higher if the core to core delta is not 30c 💀

[prime jasper]

is it possible to simulate 7800X3D with 7950X3D

[nocturne drift]

Yes HUB did it

It's even slightly faster.

https://youtu.be/DKt7fmQaGfQ

18:16

[pale quartz]

its just one CCD, turning off the other gives near identical performance

[nocturne drift]

I think 7800X 3D is a banger.

The other 2 eh

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-quietly-reduces-ryzen-7040hs-rdna3-igpu-clock-speeds-removes-pcie-gen5-support

[prime jasper]

interesting. there is big difference in some games when disabled the second CCD.

[nocturne drift]

Scheduling issue

Expected and predicted.

[pale quartz]

its not a scheduling issue

[nocturne drift]

Prob will get better later.

[pale quartz]

the chipset is expecting boost clocks from the primary CCD, it being switched off turns off this behaviour

[nocturne drift]

Then shouldn't that make the cpu slower not faster?

[pale quartz]

no, the game influence can be faster or slower depending on whats being run

single core boost primary games will suffer, cache heavy games will benefit

[nocturne drift]

I see.

[prime jasper]

what is the maximum fps in frostbite?

[pale quartz]

the frostbite engine doesnt have a frame cap

[prime jasper]

nice

[pale quartz]

frame caps are only introduced to engines to combat timing issues with the processing logic, tldr older engines

[nocturne drift]

Apex legends

300

[prime jasper]

that engine is something else i swear

[pale quartz]

the game was developed 7-8 years ago, so it uses the source engine

heavily modified*, but same engine issues

[prime jasper]

yep heavily modified

[nocturne drift]

I actually like apex legends moves soo nice.

Game will close itself if u oc ur cache too high tho.

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/wejrzPPBtL0

[nocturne drift]

The guy who has 30c core to core delta after 2 remounts need this.

[toxic wigeon]

One interesting thing I noticed was that the lows are lower than intel's chips.

[prime jasper]

Did any reviewers test bf2042 out of curiosity, I doubt it since multiplayer only but would be cool to know

[misty ocean]

anyone able to help me with installation issues?

ive tried everything i could think of

[small zinc]

Why static OC Ryzen 4 when PBO overclocked all cores to 5.7?

[nocturne drift]

Because in idle it goes to 5.6ghz. In cinebench it goes to 5.1ghz while at 96c+. Customer was not comfortable with that so I found a sweet spot. Now looping cinebench at 5.3ghz at 1.24v at 84c

[pale quartz]

if it goes to 5.6 on idle then the battery config wasnt set properly lol

[small zinc]

Must have a horrible cooler on it

Mine boosts to 5.7 and stays under 75

[nocturne drift]

Cooler is h150i elite capellix

[nocturne drift]

Cinebench r23?

Sure do a cinebench r23 run and show us ur hwinfo minimum clock speed.

Let's see if it's 5.7 ghz

[nocturne drift]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-7900x

Max boost clock is literally 5.6ghz on amd website.

[pale quartz]

yeah thats max boost lol

[nocturne drift]

Yeah

[pale quartz]

whats the problem?

idle doesnt reach max boost

[nocturne drift]

No problem.

Oh wait he is streaming to me.

So I guess not idle.

But 5.6ghz streaming to me. 5.1ish ghz doing cinebench r23

30c core to core delta.

Stock pbo temp is 96ish.so I give amd doing exactly as the spec says

Pretty good.

Except the default tdp cause it was drawing north of 200w in cinebench. But mobo vendors always ignore that anyways

[small zinc]

7900x boosts slightly higher

It’s actually 5696 to be exact

PBO

[nocturne drift]

Yeah doing super light workload like streaming in discord.

[small zinc]

Playing games primarily

[nocturne drift]

Very very light games.

[small zinc]

Which made a huge difference for my 4090

[nocturne drift]

Heavier game won't reach close to 5.6+ghz at all

[small zinc]

If you say so

Mine definitely does

😜

[nocturne drift]

Show us.

[small zinc]

When I get to my PC later I will

[nocturne drift]

I told you how to. Play a game let's say 2042.go to. Hwinfo64. And show us ur min clock speed after a while.

U can start hwinfo while u are in a match cause menu screen is very cpu heavy

[small zinc]

Mazda. I know you get a hardon anytime I type something because you like to argue. Just accept that some chips have better Jim’s than others.

Bins

[nocturne drift]

Yeah but what you are saying makes no logical sense.

[small zinc]

And you’re telling me something blatantly incorrect

So….

[nocturne drift]

Classic.

[small zinc]

You do t have an argument

I’m telling you you’re wrong

😎

[nocturne drift]

I'm telling you you are wrong, and I don't care what you say.

[small zinc]

Its ok to be wrong Mazda. Just accept you made a blanket statement that wasn’t factual

[nocturne drift]

I don't.

[small zinc]

You did. It’s ok to be wrong

You’re wrong

😎

[toxic wigeon]

Shut up and move on.

[small zinc]

👍

[toxic wigeon]

Nobody is wrong, don't care.

[nocturne drift]

Thanks.

[small zinc]

The draw power for the 7950x3d is pretty impressive

168 watts under full load

Looks like it handily beats the KS too at 6 GHz

AMD kind of knocked it out of the park

[nocturne drift]

My 13900ks is here. Ayeeee

I might go for the Z790 hero if the apex guy can't sort his stuff right.

Maybe ddr5 7800.

He is rmaing thru Asus but i think apex is at a shortage right now. Hope I get that apex. Although a white mobo in a black build is abit of a L lol

[small zinc]

Think I might buy the 7950x3d. Not that I really need it. Not like my 4090 is gonna benefit all that much from another 10-20% when my OLED monitor is 175hz and pretty much peg that out on literally any game

[nocturne drift]

Also corsair shift looks really awesome. It includes 12pin too!

Def getting that

[small zinc]

Any ATX 3 PSU is pretty nice at this point to have the 12 pin built in instead of using Nvidias dumb adapter

Problem with the Shift PSU is they decided to put the connectors on the side. Not a fan of that

But it’s specs are nice

83amps on the 12 volt rail I believe?

Waiting on Seasonic Vertex PSU’s myself

Not paying $400 bucks for the ASUS Loki

[nocturne drift]

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

MC going crazy

[left cargo]

ty kind stranger

[white echo]

Um I got a suspicious message

I gotta DM the msg tho if thats ok?

[toxic wigeon]

Open a modmail and we can help you from there. :D

[white echo]

Wheres that 😅

Got it

[mystic junco]

hey i was wondering if anyone could help me with my headset? I have logitech G935 and every other time im going to use the mic it just won’t work, the mic has a slight red light to it when it doesn’t work and i’ve tried every setting in the world in feels like and the only thing that makes it works again is if i restart the computer, and yes i’ve checked all the settings on the pc too😭

[small zinc]

Hey Jenny. Sounds like a software /firmware issue. What I recommend is going to your device manager, and uninstalling the headset and device software by right clicking on “Sound, Video, and Game Controllers”.

Reboot your PC, and reinstall the latest Logitech software and reboot again

Does that particular headset have a dongle to it?

[mystic junco]

if i understand dongle right then no

[small zinc]

See if that cures the problem. Once you fully uninstall and remove the device software and reinstall again, should be able to update the firmware again and hopefully corrects itself

I’ve seen this issue before

[mystic junco]

okey i will try that now, thank u for the help:)

[small zinc]

Hopefully it helps.

Can try further troubleshooting of that doesn’t resolve it

If

[pale quartz]

have you got logitech g hub?

[mystic junco]

yes

[pale quartz]

i had that headset before odd, sensor could be getting conflicted with its mute function, pretty sure its possible to switch it off entirely within g hub iirc, worth a look

[mystic junco]

okey i will look

[pale quartz]

and just to be double sure make sure youve got the mic set as the default option like this, (right click set default), otherwise software can change it

[mystic junco]

haha it’s hard getting help in english and the pc being in another language but i will try my best

[pale quartz]

what is your native language?

[small zinc]

Deco is also right. I'm not a big fan of Logitech software myself. If that's all it is, just a function of the software changing the microphone default and its mute function, then that should be a pretty simple fix.

Sometimes these headsets require a "hard reset". Essentially rebooting the headset back to factory settings

[mystic junco]

swedish

[mystic junco]

yeah it sucks it was a gift from my boyfriend not even a year ago, they’re weird

[small zinc]

G935 right?

Isn't that a wireless headset?

[mystic junco]

yea it is

[small zinc]

Or you just run them plugged in?

Oh weird...sorry

lol

not wired

[mystic junco]

no just when i charge them they’re plugged in

[small zinc]

I misread that, I'm sorry

[mystic junco]

hahaha no problem

[small zinc]

I think Deco and I are essentially saying the same thing though. Both of us think it's a software issue

[pale quartz]

för Windows sök efter inställningen "ändra systemljud", gå därifrån till inspelningsfliken och se till att mikrofonen är vald som standardenhet (den kommer att ha en grön markering bredvid sig), för g935, om inte då högerklicka på den och ställ in den som standardkommunikationsenhet och standardenhet, starta sedan om programvaran (t.ex. slagfält) för att mikrofonen ska byta till den

alternativt inom logitech g hub bör du kunna hitta ett alternativ för att stänga av mute-funktionen på headsetet (g935 har en sensor som känner av automatisk mute när den fälls upp, vilket är vad den röda lampan betyder)

om du har headsetet anslutet kommer mikrofonen bara att fungera via USB, så se till om den är vänd till den på headsetet
(translation)

[small zinc]

Does Logitech do what Astro does have have "Voice" and "Game" ?

That could be confusing to her if so

Or rather Windows having multiple line in options

[pale quartz]

worse, they've got a flip switch on the headset itself which routes the USB channel for PC and "other devices"

if its on the wrong section the mic wont work whatsoever

[small zinc]

The LED is red which means it's probably just muted.

I'm assuming she only has one mic selection

[pale quartz]

it does, tldr is the mute function is automatic for when its flipped up on the headset itself, can fuck itself over sometimes and stop the mic functioning

had it occur more than once when i used it

[mystic junco]

yeah i know about the mic thing, flipping it up and then its turned off, problem is when i flip it down it doesn’t work

[pale quartz]

so its when you flip it up, then down correct?

[mystic junco]

yeah or just when i turn on the headset for the first time of the day, haven’t touched it and it still doesn’t work

[small zinc]

I personally think it's still a software issue. Probably easier at this point to fully uninstall the device software via device manager to completely remove the any windows drivers for it as well as fully uninstalling any Logitech software. Removing the wireless receiver for it as well obviously. Restart the PC, reinstall the receiver, the software, and any firmware updates there might be.

[pale quartz]

ugh yeah i remember this issue not fondly, theres plenty of reports of it happening from years ago aswell, my general advice is to not flip it up unless absolutely need be, you can change the mute function to be a key combination within g hub as a workaround

faulty sensors

[pale quartz]

it will come back, the software reads via the sensors

[mystic junco]

the g hub is so confusing

[pale quartz]

yeah its not great, dont have the headset anymore so cant lay it out easily, what youre looking for is to remap the buttons on the headset to the mute function, it will be under system/keys/macro from memory

[mystic junco]

i have uninstalled it now

[pale quartz]

theres the macro there

as a way around it (if you reinstall it)

sorry i couldnt be of more help, the logitech headsets werent known as that reliable for the glitches

[mystic junco]

thank u, you were to help:)

how do i “remove” the headset from the pc

[pale quartz]

device manager - audio inputs and outputs will allow you to uninstall the drivers for the headset

[mystic junco]

thank u

[pale quartz]

np

[small zinc]

Man. 7950x3d already sold out on AMD

Amazon has them for $7 dollars more for some reason. AMD storefront

[mystic junco]

@pale quartz i can’t seem to find the mute thing:(

[pale quartz]

under Logitech g hub click into the headset, there'll be a macro option on the left menu, click create new macro, title it "Mute Mic", at the bottom is a prompt, click it then click system (actions?) iirc, then audio command, and mute audio input

afterwards click done, save the macro and then bind it to a button on the headset

[mystic junco]

thank u!

[pale quartz]

no worries

[small zinc]

Top 124 on Superposition Benchmark with just a PBO overclock only on a 7900x

Not bad

21431 score "1080p extreme" preset

[river crown]

anyone know how to fix high cpu temp?

[midnight crypt]

a better cooler

[quick locust]

7950x3d lel

[prime jasper]

7900X3D available

7950X3d coming in two days

prices do be high

[molten flame]

sad thing is, 7800X3D likely only gonna be $50-100 cheaper than 7900X3D

[prime jasper]

Yes

Its probably 600€ here

[nocturne drift]

Destiny 2 lightfall is here. Man I wish I built my pc earlier lol

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfdNHdfenus&ab_channel=GamersNexus

[small zinc]

Where do you live? Got mine today

[stone monolith]

My pc runs like shit on bf2042😭 can anyone point me in the right direction on what I should upgrade first ?

My specs are

Intel i7-9700k
RTX 2070 super 8GB
M.2 SSD 500GB Samsung
M.2 SSD 1TB Samsung
1TB HDD seagate
Asus ROG strix Z390-F gaming
Seasonic focus GX 750w psu
Corsair Hydro 100i RGB platinum
16GB ram vengeance rgb pro

[pale quartz]

processor and GPU are first

that's motherboard for you aswell, z390 is EOL

[stone monolith]

I thought so, iv been looking at cpu + motherboard upgrade but I wasn’t too sure

I’m wanting to get the ryzen 9 5950x

[pale quartz]

you won't gain anything from it, get the 13600k or the 5800x3d

(alternatively the 7000 x3d chips if you're wanting maximum performance)

[primal terrace]

Does anyone know how to fix the "GPU Hang" error ?

[prime jasper]

Ddu and driver install

[primal terrace]

already did that

[prime jasper]

🤷

[primal terrace]

[thorn osprey]

For all that are unable to use slow and lagy EA apps and like to stay with Origin this is 3 sec fix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE2I_jnCIGU

[molten flame]

https://hothardware.com/news/low-profile-twin-fan-cooler-can-chill-cpus-up-to-265w

Wonder if heatsink can passively cool 65W 5600/7600

[nocturne drift]

This should run 2042 fine.

Are all these not throttling? What is ur ram and is xmp enabled?

I found 6000 cl32 g skill ram that has hynix A die.

821A

It booted 7600 on Z790 hero.

Impressive.

Corsair 1000% won't put a die at 6000 cl32

Twitter has no chill lol. Both sides are fighting lol.

7950X 3D is faster on average stock, 13900k/ks with tuned A die is faster. Doesn't mean all reviewers and average customers knows how to do it. It goes both ways.

What bothers me is leakers saying 20-30% faster and leaking slides that's completely ridiculous

And people who tune and can get the 13900k/ks faster should also admit 7950X3D is the best out of the box.

lol

[molten flame]

I wanna see Threadripper 7990X3D

[nocturne drift]

[toxic wigeon]

512 MB of Cache.

[river crown]

the game uses 100% cpu usage making my pc hot, how do you fix this?

[candid flame]

turn up the fans

[river crown]

Cant play with 95c for a long tjme

[candid flame]

you absolutely can

95c is fineeee

[river crown]

fine for laptop?

[candid flame]

yup

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/inland-pcie-gen5-ssd-costs-350-2-4x-more-than-gen4-ssd-and-has-a-loud-fan

Gen5 NVMe bad value

[midnight crypt]

is that molex

[molten flame]

yeah for tiny fan

[pale quartz]

the fan speed isn't actually due to the fan itself, ironically

it will be running on a DC current

[molten flame]

sad how Gen5 drives from a low-end brand like Inland cost nearly 2.5x more than top-end Gen4 drives

[coarse nimbus]

Imagine your nvme making so much heat you need a fan on it smh

[ivory creek]

i heard the gen5 ssds with built in fans make the sound of angry insects

lol

i hate highpitched noices

so i cant say im jelous

btw i have the default blow out prism cooler on ryzen cpu and when i put the sideplate on which is glass it get extremely hot so i have to keep it off

should i put in the effort and install my nh-d15 cooler?

its so ugly tho, brown and beiege, i like the prism rgb

[midnight crypt]

well theyre tiny as hell fans

so makes sense they sound terrible

[ivory creek]

ye

still annoying tho

[midnight crypt]

you could probably get away with not having em on

if you have good enough airflow

[ivory creek]

i heard the sn850 throttle without the proper sink, and gen5 is a step up so i think they need active cooling

[midnight crypt]

well shit

[ivory creek]

sn850 was the go to pcie4 nvme ssd for so long, now firecuda 340? something is out which is even better? what to buy?

firecuda is supposed to have really good lifespan aswell

[midnight crypt]

either that one or fury renegade

[ivory creek]

im planning to buy a nvme once directstorage get commonly used, now im only on a sata 3 ssd

lol

[midnight crypt]

same here

although i kinda wanna just buy a whole new pc

[ivory creek]

i bought a rtx 3090 some months ago so my craving to just buy something is set for a while

hehe

[midnight crypt]

makes sense

[ivory creek]

question is what i should do with my gtx 1070, gift it to someone or try to sell it for like 80 usd?

ive had the gtx 1070 clocked from the day i bought it tho, and i really dont want to scam someone and have it break just as they buy it

[midnight crypt]

meh it should be fine

unless youve been running it extremely hot

[ivory creek]

the temps were fine, but i overclocked it to the max

[midnight crypt]

then it def should be fine

[ivory creek]

i could always say that they will get their money back if it acts up

[midnight crypt]

pretty sure people would think youre scamming them

[ivory creek]

ill just give it to my dad then

he'd need a stronger psu but i think i have that aswell

lol

he is running a gtx 660 right now

lol

but he doesnt game

[midnight crypt]

seems like the cards pull about the same power

[ivory creek]

oh nice

thanks

[quick locust]

pretty decent on arc

[pale quartz]

lol nothing like decent being considered sub 60 frames

[prime jasper]

around 90 fps is decent for me, rip 3070

but probably dropping the most demanding settings could do that easily

[sand tide]

coming from a 6600 user i can tell u that as of todays patches i get 165fps smooth as butter

6600 XT that is.

very inaccurate graph

nvm max settings my bad

lol

[quick locust]

Decent compared to similiar tier cards

[quick locust]

Yeah same, this is just everything maxed lol

to get 60 you need 3070 and up in it, at least when maxed

Probably 6800 too, but they didnt test that

[ivory creek]

i got a 3090 so im gucci

😄

[quick locust]

yep

[storm osprey]

at 1440p max settings though? yea thats decent

just turn off something like motion blur and not youre at 60 fps

[stone stone]

am i the only one getting lots of packet-loss/ game stutter/ lag in multiplayer?
I tried everything from new wires, playing solo servers, lowering graphics, removing background programs, chaining the profsave_profile to dx12, also tried updating everything and i still have to same problem.
It mostly happens when im in a server for longer than 5 mintues.

3060ti
24bg of ram
samsung monitor 240hz
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor 3.70 GHz
Desktopz
GPU low %
CPU high %
Windows 10

https://preview.redd.it/msi658cf2w181.png?auto=webp&s=5fcc9b9652fa1e888c41b4ca008b2f8ff5bc166c

[lofty light]

I mean packet loss is your network crapping itself

That or the server

[storm osprey]

Ethernet

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-7945hx-dragon-range-processor-has-better-multi-core-performance-at-less-power-than-intel-core-i9-13980hx

Dragon range very strong

[loud lotus]

My steam version wont open it opens the EA app and then goes back to play. Everything is updated and reinstalled. The launcher wont even pop up. Verified files also. BF1 loads fine

[nocturne drift]

dat efficiency coming thru without the bs ihs

[prime jasper]

Do i need heatsink for m2nvme ssd? For gaming of course. 😂

[pale quartz]

no

[pale quartz]

are you using the latest version of the EA app?

[loud lotus]

Yes off the website

[pale quartz]

open terminal run the command Winget --upgrade and make sure its actually the newest revision

[cursive marten]

So apparently the discord bot Mee6 has lost it's verification, which means it can no longer be added to new servers.

rest in piss, Mee6, fucking trash ass bot

[hexed notch]

Anyone else here look at their cpu usage in game and smile

[pale quartz]

nope

[storm osprey]

nope, as long as performance is good thats all that matters, otherwise i probably just spend a bunch of money on my cpu that i didnt have to

[prime jasper]

i look at it then yell the piece of shit to run faster

[prime jasper]

Cpu’s are not that much expensive as gpu’s are

Its insane

😂

[molten flame]

wanna see 7950X3D with 4800 CL40 memory compared to 6000 CL30

[toxic wigeon]

My friend just got a 7950x3d, He's loving it.

[toxic crater]

Guys I am thinking upgrade my specs. I am now using i7 12700K with RTX3060, I ran 2042 on 4K with DLSS performance. My budget is around $1.5K. aim to play 2042 on 4K with DLSS quality. Any suggestions?

[midnight crypt]

4090

[toxic crater]

Emm, no way I can get a 4090 with 1500…

Oh forgot to say. 1500 Canadian dollars. I am in Canada

With 15% freaking sales tax

[midnight crypt]

then a 7900xtx

nvm

you wanted dlss

[toxic crater]

Can it run RDR2 in 4K above 60FPS without DLSS?

If yes, DLSS doesn’t really matter…

[midnight crypt]

i think so

i havent watched a benchmark of it in awhile

[toxic crater]

Okay, I am going to see some test videos! Thank you!

[prime jasper]

Even 3090 and 6950xt can

[storm osprey]

Depends on settings. I got 60 fps with a 3080 at 4k with some medium settings.

[prime jasper]

https://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/RDR3.png

[molten flame]

RDNA3 is AMD Ampere moment

[gaunt wren]

Why no Intel on this list?

[storm osprey]

pretty sure if it was even included, no intel gpu is better than a 3070 ti

[gaunt wren]

The Intel Arc A770 (16GB) has 3070 specs, so...

[storm osprey]

3070 ti > 3070 though

[pale quartz]

will make a grand total of 0 difference lol

[dry pike]

4800 will probably be more stable as memory stability on AM5 is absolutely shit right now

[pale quartz]

4800-6000 run fine on even bronze samples

your board experience will differ

[dry pike]

For most at least. But AM5 memory stability issues seem to be pretty wide-spread across boards. My Gigabyte board and bios is probably crap too but that is besides the point.

[small zinc]

Got my new 7950x3d in my system. Still tweaking the PBO settings. Seems to only want to boost to 5Ghz all cores instead of 5.7

[ivory creek]

my 3090 keep switching between states and make a roar sound when going up and down the fan curves as i barely use it. when its fully used it doesnt happen

lol

i wonder if my neighbors can hear it

i can hear tem screaming as they die and kill people in games at night tho

so it would fit them

we have this computer company here in sweden with a lot of qualified tech experts working compared to other it places who have no clue. is it rude that i abuse the fact that you're able to call them for free support if ure interested in buying something even tho im not always looking for stuff to buy?

i regularly buy from them tho

every single year they're voted as the retailer of the year

its not even fun anymore

lol

[molten flame]

the CCD with the 3D cache has a peak boost for 5.0 GHz on 1 core

[nocturne drift]

I'd blame mobo tbh, 2 customer builds all do 6000 cl36 one expo 6000 cl30

are there bad apples, sure. but so far so good

zen2 was a meme and zen3 was slightly better.

[prime jasper]

I only hear good about gigabyte am5 bios

[nocturne drift]

https://imgur.com/a/r4vBoSa

Big oof

[prime jasper]

Is that something that can be alleviated with firmware or is it set like that forever

[pale quartz]

the scheduler isn't in any firmware of the chip, it's at the OS stack level of the interface, so yes it can be changed

[nocturne drift]

my oc friend in microcenter discord got 4133 cl14 stable and finally beat my work 13900kf timespy score with 6666 DDR5.

thats impressive

esp since timespy scales with DDR5

I have decided not to get a contact frame nor delid.

it is what it is. if i can only do 5.7ghz all core I am good with that

[quick locust]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-fixes-high-power-load-for-arc-a7-multi-monitor-setups

https://www.jonpeddie.com/news/intels-aurora-dgpus-erroneously-boosted-gpu-market-share/

[dry pike]

Sample size of 2

[dry pike]

We are on different forums then

[small zinc]

Actually I’ve been reading it’s like 4 cores

But scatter bencher has managed to OC the 7950X3D to 5.9 GHz using curve optimizer

I’ve been playing around with it

[prime jasper]

Are they talking about b650 or x670

Because forums here tested the gigabyte b650 it ran cl30 6000 first try and overall no complaints

Good vrm too

HUB also had similar experience with b650 lineup from gigabyte

[dry pike]

x670, I have no doubt AMD made improvements in B650 to compensate

[molten flame]

ordered 5800X3D yesterday

also got extendable mini-ITX case

Phanteks Evolv shift XT

[stoic plaza]

https://prnt.sc/zjbTM6GNwrm2 Can someone help me with this pls ?

[quick locust]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[toxic wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722286091201150976/1081615112303034441/IMG_20191206_180856.jpg

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/microsoft-introduces-edge-video-super-resolution-for-nvidia-and-amd-gpus

[cursive marten]

okay..?

[prime jasper]

Edge do be balling

Best browser imo

[nocturne drift]

Urs?

[toxic wigeon]

No just a meme.

[nocturne drift]

Oh haha

https://youtu.be/JQH2Iq9B3MU

Looks like dark kingpin loses to apex

Time to go to msi kingpin

That actually would be dope

[gaunt wren]

Good feature... For those who enjoy it drawing 100+ watts of constant power when enabled even on the lowest mode/setting.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-meteor-lake-s-desktop-cpus-to-feature-20-pcie-gen5-lanes-z890-platform-to-support-wifi-7

[small zinc]

I do find it a bit amusing that with Z790 platform Intel basically needs highly tuned memory in order to keep up with X3D CPUs. But in general a 7950 X3D on DDR5 6000 PBO2 outperforms a 13900k on DDR5 7600.

[midnight crypt]

no

[small zinc]

Yes

😁

https://hardwarecanucks.com/forum/threads/z790-hero-13900k-g-skill-ddr5-7600-cinebench.85556/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d/8.html

An undervolted 7950x3d on PBO which we all know is 5.05 GHz scores 1,000 less points

Whereas a 13900k is at 5.5 GHz

[midnight crypt]

no

[small zinc]

Well. Benchmarks just proved you wrong

But AMD has absolutely taken back the performance crown both in multi core computing, and now gaming again.

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/ytpVOFvbv8w

Literally exactly what I predicted.

[small zinc]

So. Some YouTube channel nobody has ever heard of benchmarking a CPU that isn’t available until next month.

Noted.

Who’s results are vastly different than just about every other review showing the 7950x3d beating the 13900k on average by 6%

Hmmmm

🤔

[nocturne drift]

Yes because 7800X 3D is 7950X 3D with one of the ccd disabled. As seen on Hardware unboxed. Disabling one ccd and making it a 7800X 3D results in higher overall average.

[small zinc]

I don’t doubt the 7800x3d will perform very well because of the reduced latency on just one ccd. That’s always been the case with Ryzen 7 and 9

But it’s not officially out yet

Lol

[nocturne drift]

True but that is gonna be a great cpu. Unless amd completely f people on the clock speed.

The r9s if u want max performance get ready to park your cores depending on your work load.

[small zinc]

Depends. The X3D CPU’s aren’t officially over clockable due to C stepping

But PBO2 is pretty efficient

[nocturne drift]

The guy reached 5.05-5.15 ghz in his video. Now idk how that works but looks like it's overclock able

Skatterbencher also did a tutorial on pbo 3D chips

[small zinc]

5.05 is really what the X3D skus are locked to unfortunately

With PBO2 fudging the clocks a bit

[nocturne drift]

Max boost. He was hitting 5.15+ in shadow of tomb raider.

Not some super light workload

[small zinc]

Yeah mine hits 5.2 in certain cases

That 5.7 AMD claims just isn’t quite true

Now granted I haven’t tried Prime 95 to see what they do under 100% load

[nocturne drift]

The 5.7ghz is the non 3D V cache ccd

[small zinc]

Skatterbench hit 5.9 using curve optimizer, which is really just one core

But still impressive nonetheless

[nocturne drift]

Yes but I realize it's also just non 3D V cache ccd

[small zinc]

Unfortunately messing around with curves makes things so unstable

[nocturne drift]

Idk if u need to disable that ccd to pbo on the V cache ccd

But hey that's none of my problem I'm prob gonna get sht on trying to go ddr5 7600 + on 13900ks

[small zinc]

Maybe? But right now it seems that most AGESA boards have things locked down until someone figures out a way to either unlock the BIOS or AMD releases new chipset drivers

Hell even Ryzen Master is like: 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne drift]

Oh I see. The guy in the video increased the bus clock from 100 to 102

Kind of like bclk

[molten flame]

bus clock tweaking unstable tho right

[nocturne drift]

It's fine, i think newer chips de sync the ram etc and make it so it's just clock speed.

So it's a kind of a smart way going at it.

If other stuff is a no go in this case.

[ivory creek]

nvidia has started selling Founders Edition rtx 4000 cards to marketprice here in sweden

nice

you were apparently not able to for several years here

but now they're back

im now able to buy a new rtx 4070 ti for less than what i handed out for my rtx 3090 some months ago

rip

oh well i was expecting this so no big deal

[prime jasper]

Gpus droping price?

And why would you sell 3090 for 4070?

[ivory creek]

the prices have dropped somewhat here ye, and no i wouldnt sell my 3090 but maybe if i had waited? im under the impression that 4070 ti is faster than 3090

[prime jasper]

I think only in tehnology not in raw power

I wouldnt even think about it

[prime jasper]

Founders edition looks nice

But not better than asus version 😁

[ivory creek]

ye founders look great

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-shares-new-second-gen-3d-v-cache-chiplet-details-up-to-25-tbs

Around 14% shrink on the cache chiplet (7nm family)
25% greater cache chiplet to base chiplet bandwidth
Redesigned for difference in area (tsv in L2 due to overlapping)
Achieved through design optimizations, dtco and process improvements
Still limited in clocks due to shared power domain (voltage cap) for base die and cache chiplet (room for improvement)

[ivory creek]

would be cool if u could hire some tech company to mod your regular cpus to get 3d vcache on them

[molten flame]

CPU architecture itself needs to be able to work with it

[ivory creek]

maybe in the future if they made it like an added piece on top with extra architecture so it became optional

haha

nah i really have no clue how that works. but would be cool

[molten flame]

stacking compute chips isn't a good idea, only currently possible to do cache/memory/io atm

[nocturne drift]

Pls don't sell 3090 for 4070ti

[ivory creek]

now that you're encouraging me to i just might

[weak girder]

What u gonna do with it

enjoy battlefield 5 at 4k 280 fps instead of that choppy 4k 260 fps

[ivory creek]

gonna turn on framegeneration and get 4k 560fps instead of 260

[dreamy raptor]

yo i tried LAN cable still packetloss 70%

and tried re install

[pale quartz]

@dreamy raptor sorry missed the context of this, what board are you running by chance

[dreamy raptor]

board? like mother board thing?

[pale quartz]

yes

[dreamy raptor]

if so idk if theres a way to know

asus something strix

idk

[pale quartz]

its displayed here

[dreamy raptor]

ROG STRIX Z390-H GAMING

issue is packet loss ive never got it fixed and comepletly unplayable reloads in slomotion my footsteps are 7 meters infront of me

its crazy

and planes fly around and tp back and shit

[pale quartz]

are you plugging the LAN cable directly into the router from the pc? based on prior messages youre using a receiver from the port

[dreamy raptor]

no but that still not issue man my friend has also doesnt lan he uses also wireless and runs 126 players fine

[pale quartz]

yes, but thats not comparable

[dreamy raptor]

why?

[pale quartz]

wireless standards are not stable, his situation even if it works doesnt mean it can be used for yours

youll have desyncing issues because your receiver cant sustain the throughput for the signal, either for a wall, or some other interference impeding the signal

[dreamy raptor]

ok so i need to buy a new cable dude

thats annoying i never had this issue

[pale quartz]

no, how far is your router from the receiver?

[dreamy raptor]

whats reciver?

my pc?

[pale quartz]

where you are plugging the ethernet cable into, how far is that distance to the actual router

[dreamy raptor]

very close but its high up

for some reason

[pale quartz]

through a roof or wall?

[dreamy raptor]

wall

[pale quartz]

there will be concrete in between there, which is your issue

[dreamy raptor]

no just a corner and its drywall

small corner

[pale quartz]

drywall is more or less equivalent to signal impedance as concrete

you will never have a stable connection under these conditions, so youll need to bypass using wireless entirely, so youll have to get a powerline adapter

[dreamy raptor]

but why have i never had this issue in any other game?

[pale quartz]

because battlefield 2042's required bandwidth at all times for a stable connection is much higher than other games

and when the signal impedes, your throughput will drop

get a powerline adapter and you wont need to use wireless, it'll connect directly to the router

[dreamy raptor]

i searched powerline adapter but i dont understand lol

where im supposed to put it

also they are supper expensive

[pale quartz]

it seems complicated but its pretty straightforward, you need 2, and youll place one in a power port at the router, and one at the pc, then simply connect them both via ethernet, sync them up and its done

you can get some cost effective on amazon

[dreamy raptor]

man i just wants refund

[pale quartz]

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Gigabit-Adapter-TL-WPA4220/dp/B0141JH8P0/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3FYF2WX86FKRZ&keywords=powerline+adapter+kit&qid=1678050546&sprefix=powerline+adapter+ki%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-9 e.g.

[dreamy raptor]

cant i just get a long one lan cable?

[pale quartz]

you can, if you can find a way to connect it past the drywall

either will work

[dreamy raptor]

whatever bro thanks for the help im just never going to get to play it looks fun tho

[pale quartz]

no problem

[nocturne drift]

input lag and half of the vram

[nocturne drift]

Wait so both LTT and Jayz2cents 7950X3D broke.

Wtf?

[toxic wigeon]

How?

[nocturne drift]

Heck I know.

[winged skiff]

Can 5600X + 3090 work with 750w PSU?

i currently rocking 5600x + 3070ti, but planning to upgrade to 5800X3D and 3090 later this year

but Im starting with the GPU first, so that's why I ask

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-Tri-Frozr-Architecture-Graphics/dp/B08HRBW6VB

this is what im getting

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/power-supplies/mwe-series/mwe-750-bronze-v2/

this is my current PSU

as long as I dont overclock, 5600X + 3090 I'm getting should be good until I upgrade my PSU yeah?

[quick locust]

Nvidia recommended is 750W

[pale quartz]

its not guaranteed, bronze efficiency means your output current is significantly lower than a gold rated power supply at max load, you'll be coming very close to the peak output the PSU can handle, so you might get rolling shutdowns by the power supply

[winged skiff]

I was reading that I can undervolt the GPU or limit the wattage using afterburner

will that work?

[pale quartz]

no, software control simply limits output wattage, I am extremely skeptical of that power supply being able to handle the 3090s current safely at all

[molten flame]

I bought a cell phone booster, basically just a modem that takes a SIM card

[pale quartz]

the 12V rail on the PSU is splitting to 3V and 5V, which means there's no dedicated rail, it isn't safe to operate a card like a 3090 with it

[molten flame]

Ampere transients are a problem too

[winged skiff]

hmm alright, so it's not recommended?

[molten flame]

850W gold rated PSU from Corsair, SeaSonic, Lian Li, EVGA are minimum for 3090 tbh

1000W recommended

[winged skiff]

I was thinking upgrading to 850w PSU Gold, but that have to come like later on while I save up

I can purchase the 3090 now

https://www.xpg.com/us/xpg/641

this is what I wanted to purchase

will this be enough? not planning to OC or anything like that, strictly stock

[pale quartz]

rule 1: never buy something you can't safely operate

[winged skiff]

but yeah, probably in like 3-4 months from now

[pale quartz]

stock is not enough, overclocking does not matter

the current on the card is extreme even at stock, and as mentioned you're going to have serious transient shutdown issues cause of the card, tldr is, don't buy it unless you want to risk thermal protection triggering

[winged skiff]

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-3090-GAMING-X-TRIO-24G/Specification

I ask because the website for the GPU said 750w is the reocmmended

[pale quartz]

this is gold certification

[molten flame]

750W is recommended for just 3070 on Nvidia website

[pale quartz]

750 watts@80% curve efficiency is borderline enough to run the cards stable because they have dedicated 12V rails, your power supply does not

[winged skiff]

will the PSU I linked above be enough?

[pale quartz]

I have no idea, there's nothing about how the 12V rail operates from the base page

[winged skiff]

i saw on the PSU tierlist, that PSU is high enough?

hmm I see

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[pale quartz]

though thats beyond the point really, with a power supply you should be exceeding your minimum rather than just is it enough

[winged skiff]

granted it's single rail, but ya, like you said

well the issue is that, between 850w and 1000w, the jump is extremely high for the price in my country

[pale quartz]

you'll pay for it through the lower current in the long run

any marginal price at current power costs over 5 years will be more expensive rather than the reverse

[winged skiff]

and I'm kinda afraid that my house don't have the power LOL

my house is 1400w

[molten flame]

I'm using 650W gold PSU with 65W CPU and 130W GPU

[winged skiff]

my PSU is already 750w

if my siblings turns on the AC and microwave, the electric in my house shut down

[pale quartz]

DC output as a % of cost efficiency flattens out once you approach 80% of the wattage, so 680W, which is where the input for output in the rest of the increase becomes

[pale quartz]

you know that in total that's 2.2kW of power right

[nocturne drift]

Hi, one of my 3090 died from a 850w powersupply that is not good

pls dont even try

thanks

[pale quartz]

well that's all you need to know lol

[winged skiff]

which powersupply?

just so I can avoid

[nocturne drift]

evga 850w GA Supernova

[winged skiff]

oh wow okay

[nocturne drift]

cant handle the transient

I would not risk what 750w bronze psu lol at all

[winged skiff]

say I purchase this 3090, slap it onto my 750w and just use it for normal browsing and retro/indie game for now until I purchase the 1000w PSU next month
it's still okay, right? as long as I dont game too hard till end of this month?

[nocturne drift]

no

not ok. retro indie game might max out gpu

u just need a good quality 850w

[pale quartz]

do not use it period

[nocturne drift]

corsair rm series, seasonic focus series, evga G5 or above, like G6 G7 etc

and a bunch more in the psu tier list

[pale quartz]

^

[winged skiff]

hmm okay, so I better off getting new PSU first, and then the GPU?

[pale quartz]

yes

[winged skiff]

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A1000G

found this, it's a bit cheaper than the one I linked above

it's not on the tierlist tho sadly

but will this be alright? i hnestly not sure about PSU and whatnot

[pale quartz]

as a bit of guidance ATX 3.0 power supplies is what you should be looking at

[winged skiff]

so the XPG Cybercore is the one I should get huh

[pale quartz]

if possible anyways, they'll be the defacto standard going forward for GPUs, if you purchase one now you avoid a needing an upgrade again in 2-3 years

[pale quartz]

if it's ATX 3 then yes, it'll more than support the current for the 3090

a point of note is the manufacturer components, XPG are a small-ish manufacturer, so if you need additional things e.g. cables, you'll have to order from them directly

[winged skiff]

it's fine, funnily enough there's a lotsa XPG/ADATA SSD and PSU being used in my country
so part should be safe to get

[pale quartz]

last answer part yes

[winged skiff]

https://www.adata.com/en/xpg/pc-components-CYBERCORE

probalby gonna get this 1000w

[pale quartz]

wrong power supply

the ATX 3 is the cybercore 2, this one isn't ATX 3 certified

[cursive marten]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/11jn1e5/i_am_tomoworks_a_headphone_manufacturer_in_japan/

Well that's interesting.

headphones with interchangeable driver units.

[north crow]

oh huh, that's really interesting

[cursive marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZnCRU06Ad0

[winged skiff]

ah okay

how about this

https://nzxt.com/product/c1200-gold

it's cheaper than the cybercore I linked

and on the PSU tierlist, it's higher + multirail?

eh nevermind just atx3 compat

[cursive marten]

it's a shame i can't read Japanese so i can't really understand the text here

So, what i think is going on here is that they're trying to make them so that they can be sort of open backed and closed back at the same time, depending on the orientation of the slotted piece on the outside. that's an interesting concept.

it is clear that this company or person puts a lot of effort in what they do.

[pale quartz]

yup will be totally fine

power supply meets the ATX 3 specifications, so it's the top of the standard

[cursive marten]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GMV3GLHaPhM

[pale quartz]

very good cost value for the power wattage might I add, nice find

[north crow]

I love the magnets here

wonder if we'll see something like this mass produced at any point

[cursive marten]

they're fitted with magnets that's cool as hell

yeah if this could be mass produced that'd be really cool to see

[winged skiff]

alright I'll put it on my wishlist, probably gonna pick it up end of this month

so no putting the 3090 on my PC until I buy that PSU?

or it's fine for just browsing?

[pale quartz]

first

[winged skiff]

i honestly just use my PC for emulating android game and browsing tbh

[cursive marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8_jCpQYG64 They seem to be particularly known around the headphone community already for this mod to a pair of AKG K701's

[pale quartz]

it's not a case of using it, that power supply is at risk as soon as its put in

[cursive marten]

They've clearly got experience in working with headphones.

[winged skiff]

I see
guess I'll ust buy the 3090 first, and then slap it on when the PSU arrives

cause Im just afraid this 3090 will sold out first lol

[pale quartz]

is there a reason you're targeting the 3090 in particular? it doesn't have particularly good cost value

[winged skiff]

that's what's available on my region

either that, or zotac/gainward/and 1 other

theyre all priced with only $20-$50 differences

[pale quartz]

what about RDNA3 or rtx 40?

[winged skiff]

that's about 2x-3x the prices for that 3090

sadly

[pale quartz]

7900xtx is 2x in your region? rip

gl then

[winged skiff]

yeah
the 3090 im getting is $700, meanwhile 7900xtx is $1600, while the 4090 is $2600

so no way I can purchase it

[pale quartz]

yeesh unlucky

[winged skiff]

truest

[pale quartz]

hm actually consider the second hand market

think you'll get better value there

[winged skiff]

and the gainward/zotac is like $650-$680

no such thing as used market here sadly
the used market is either xx50/xx60, or mined GPU i dont want to ake a chance on

welll, outside of what I wanetd basically

im currently rocking 3070ti

i wanted the 4080, but the price is just too expensive here

[pale quartz]

RDNA2 and RDNA3 cards are terrible at mining, so they're good value propositions second hand if there's any listed, just my advice, dunno how that equates in your region but gl

[winged skiff]

well the 6950XT is roughly the same price as the 3090, just a tad cheaper
not sure which one to get since the last AMD card I used was back on radeon 7000?

[pale quartz]

6950xt is faster than the 3090 at pure raster performance, slower in raytracing, so if you care about RT don't buy it, otherwise it's fine

[winged skiff]

but 3090 is better at 3d modeling and AI training, yeah?

[pale quartz]

if you need CUDA do not buy it yes

[winged skiff]

saddd

[pale quartz]

3d modelling not so much, cross support is essentially equal

[winged skiff]

oh really?

but ya, need it mostly to train AI
3070Ti is not cutting it

[pale quartz]

yes there isn't really well any vendor exclusive software I can think of that exist for 3D modelling

it's mainly CUDA for ML

AMD does have ROCm, but unless your software supports it (it 90% won't), you'll have to keep within Nvidia

though I say 90% with a bit of "maybe", it's worth a look, I suppose

[quick locust]

I'm trying to set up oneAPI in tensorflow rn but getting arc acceleration to work is a mess

[pale quartz]

surprised?

[quick locust]

Since I'm not on their WSL2/Ubuntu main way of doing things

Doing things natively in OpenSuSE

[pale quartz]

weirdo WSL2 is the rave

death to openCL and SU

[quick locust]

Native ftw

OneAPI just reports XPU as 0MB then crashes

[bleak basin]

Ima just ask here maybe someone can help, I have a pretty good pc and I play battlefield on low graphics but my game still won’t run clean, it sometimes drops down to 40 fps when much stuff happens and idk why

[north crow]

what are your pc specs?

and what resolution are you running the game at?

[bleak basin]

Rtx 3070, amd ryzen 5 5600X, 16GB RAM

Idk u need more info or is that enough?

[bleak basin]

Uuuh not sure tbh

[north crow]

those specs should be plenty to run the game on high, let alone low

[bleak basin]

Yea that’s what I thought too, but I still got performance issues

And idk why

It’s very annoying cause I really like the game but can’t enjoy it cause of the performance

[candid flame]

is your game installed on an SSD with plenty of free space left?

ideally not your boot drive?

[bleak basin]

Yea it is on a ssd

Think it is also my boot drive tho

[candid flame]

that drive might not be able to handle both your OS and battlefield

[bleak basin]

Hm

I mean I also have a hdd

But do t tho I its smart to download it on that

[pale quartz]

are you running out of memory mid game?

if it drops mid way through to 40, it sounds like paging is being instantiated

[bleak basin]

I don’t think so

[pale quartz]

16GB will be cutting it close, check just to be sure

if it hits above 15GB page swap will kick in

[bleak basin]

What is page swap?

[pale quartz]

page swap is where the OS will begin using the drive to swap in memory once you reach near your maximum RAM allocation to stop the OS crashing

it will tank your performance if it occurs

[bleak basin]

Ooh

Well I’m not on my pc rn have to check later

What can I do if it’s over 15GB

Get more ram? 😅

[pale quartz]

pretty much

the game uses anywhere from 6-8GB depending on the map, so you're borderline on the minimum, maybe cut down background programs, but that's not a solution compared to more memory

[bleak basin]

I see

I mean I have some old 2 4GB RAM in my old pc

Idk if I can use them

[pale quartz]

you have mixed sticks in your system?

[bleak basin]

Rn I have 2 identical 8GB in my pc

[pale quartz]

do not add those other 2 4GB sticks

they will fry your performance, always keep them the same

get an additional 2x8GB kit as you've got

[bleak basin]

Alr so I should get the same 2 again?

[pale quartz]

yes

[bleak basin]

Alr

I will check when I’m on pc if that’s the problem

[pale quartz]

and one more thing since you're on an Nvidia card, if you're on the latest driver, uninstall it for the previous driver, it's currently causing issues with high CPU utilisation with the Nvidia container

both of those and you should be fine

[bleak basin]

Dont think it’s cause of that I have that issue for a longer time

[pale quartz]

then yeah probably running out of memory

[bleak basin]

I will see and give feedback here again

But thx for the help tho, appreciate it

[pale quartz]

np gl

[bleak basin]

Alright just checked, my RAM is on 14GB out of 16, my CPU is on 100% my GPU is fine buuuut, i just see the game is on my HDD cause thats on 100% too

[pale quartz]

swap it over to the SSD and get more memory

[bleak basin]

can i just move it or do i have to delete it and install it on my ssd again?

[pale quartz]

yes you can just move it, if you've installed it via steam there's an option to move over the game to the SSD

properties - local files - move install folder

if it's via EA play there is no inbuilt functionality so you'll have to move the folder then have the launcher pick up on the installation

also additionally on that 100% utilisation, make sure the Nvidia container isn't running with high utilisation as mentioned earlier

[bleak basin]

where can i check that?

ah and yeah i got it on steam

just making some space on my ssd rn

just gotta find out what games are on my ssd lol

[pale quartz]

task manager - click the CPU tab under processes, it'll show utilisation as a % of each process (highest to lowest)

[bleak basin]

alr

wth idk what games are on my ssd

[pale quartz]

steam - settings - downloads - steam library folder, has an interactive UI

[bleak basin]

omg thank u

[pale quartz]

[bleak basin]

thats weird

i have a 1TB ssd and only got 66,1GB free

but the biggest game on it is 88GB

and the rest aint big

how am i using that full 1TB wtf

[pale quartz]

windows uses around 40GB of storage, probably got stuff youve downloaded taking up space

windows has a full breakdown of whats being used in the settings, here, click the c:\ drive then

[bleak basin]

thanksss

[pale quartz]

np

[bleak basin]

finally got some space alr, ima move it now

bruh#

i cant move it to my ssd it says: directory already exists

[pale quartz]

steam stores game in your x86 drive, full command is press the win key + r which will bring up run, then this
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common
, press enter, if theres a battlefield 2042 folder there delete it

[bleak basin]

yup there was

[pale quartz]

should be able to move it over now, might need to restart steam

[bleak basin]

yea now i can move

thank u very much man

[pale quartz]

yeah np

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-releases-fidelityfx-super-resolution-2-2-plugin-for-unreal-engine

[bleak basin]

is it normal that my CPU is on a 100% tho?

[pale quartz]

its a 6 core processor, so yes, you can switch on nvidia low latency in the control panel to mitigate the load to around 95%, but theres no way around it other than upgrading the processor

[bleak basin]

which processor would u recommend for me (if u know one out of ur head u dont have to search extra)

[pale quartz]

5800x3d or zen 4 x3d would be my default recommendations

[bleak basin]

aight

i played a little bit btw and yea it was over 15GB mid game

i would go rq and buy new RAMs, u think that would fix the problem even tho my CPU is struggling too?

[pale quartz]

yes

[molten flame]

my 5800X3D will arrive in 2 days but I only have RX 6600 lmao

[viral ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802697013501231124/1082408359581462538/image.png

anyone else having the issues that their ea games don't work and an old origin windows pops up blocks you from properly using ea launcher .....

[dry pike]

That login window seems older than Origin.

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-17101711

time machine detected

[viral ibex]

strange thing is... i never had origin installed on any on my drives that i currently use in my pc... and on my windows install

[dry pike]

help.ea.com for support - https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports-Technical-Issues/bd-p/ea-app-bug-reports-en for bug reports 🙂

[viral ibex]

i only ever had often issues with battlefield 2042, since this issue causes friends to not being able to see me online at all

but now it is an issue with all ea games

[nocturne drift]

Got my friend's 12700k to 4000 cl16 flat today on Samsung bdie.

Loose trefi and trfc to counter corsair rgb heat.

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-latest-drivers-increase-cpu-usage-after-closing-games

High CPU usage even when idle

https://www.pcgamer.com/both-amd-and-nvidias-latest-drivers-can-do-very-bad-things-to-your-gaming-pc/

Moral of the story, don't update driver every time a new one comes out

I normally stick with the same one for 3-6 months

[toxic wigeon]

I update because it makes my brain feel good.

Seriously though. There are so many driver updates you'd be forgiven for missing out on them.

[candid flame]

is this article paid by Nvidia lmao

came out immediately when people started talking about the faulty Nvidia driver
"both AMD and Nvidia fucked up!"

regarding AMD it's not even their fault

[molten flame]

Random high CPU usage has appeared in very many Nvidia drivers

[pale quartz]

it is AMDs fault

but this bullshit equivalence to the nvidia container issue is nonsense

something something a bug which affects 50 people compares to hundreds of thousands having to revert their driver

[candid flame]

wasn't it something about windows pushing updates during the AMD driver installation which then messes things up?

man I just want an RDNA 3 laptop

[pale quartz]

no, the insider revisions of the WDDM overwrite the chipset version that's public, aka they are beta releases, this is an easy error for the development team to solve and was simply an incompetent oversight

[candid flame]

https://rog.asus.com/laptops-group/
this website is a nightmare. It keeps auto-scrolling up and down for me, I can't read or see anything for more than half a second

[midnight crypt]

its doing you a favor

[lofty light]

Just never update your drivers until a new game comes out that needs it

[candid flame]

https://www.asus.com/laptops/for-gaming/tuf-gaming/asus-tuf-gaming-a16-advantage-edition-2023/
I never understand these pages

where is the BUY button

The entire page is bullshits about the laptop, but where can I buy it?

[midnight crypt]

at their retail partners

[ivory creek]

new bios available for msi x570 unify. ive read everything from improved fps and a smoother windows performance to some people getting problems with their ram

should i update?

[ivory creek]

well i updated both bios and amd chipset drivers and everything seems fine so far

[nocturne drift]

OMG I was in destiny and the new 3 big azz vex and 4 people spamming strand made my fps drop from 200 to 50-70 fps

After they ded it went back to 200

Can't wait to test this next month on the new pc

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-preparing-geforce-rtx-3060-with-ga104-gpu-and-gddr6x-memory

[quick locust]

Maybe it gets closer to my A770

[molten flame]

36% higher memory bandwidth than regular 3060

[regal pagoda]

Hello, I just discovered there is a new Shadow Filtering video setting in the game, which can be PCF or PCSS, any more info about that ?

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lab-demos-living-pc-powered-by-mushrooms

wtf

[cursive marten]

mushroom PC

what's not to understand

[plucky token]

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5450 nvidia hotfix driver

[errant cypress]

Nooo i have 3060

[brave path]

I’m looking forward to buy MSI oled laptop but for taskbar do I need to hide it even tho I set the taskbar to black and it shouldn’t cause the burn in right because window taskbar is basically show same spot

[candid flame]

it introduces massive stuttering to some games, nice

[elfin charm]

Can some one help me i have for a long time i cant play Battlefield 2042 its says unable to connect but i use Ethernet cable and psn plus?

[waxen orbit]

Hello can someone help me fix my battlefield when i try to launch nothing happends, u have tried to restart my computer, fix game files, download and reinstall.

[pale quartz]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[small zinc]

Anyone download the new hotfix driver yet? Any improvements or worth it? Dont feel like my CPU is arbitrarily spiking so feel like the hotfix isn’t necessary, but curious if any actual performance boosts.

[candid flame]

performance drop actually

games keep freezing for half a second after I installed it

[errant cypress]

I thought that cpu usage was a problem with the finals. The fans started spinning crazy as soon as I opened the game.

[candid flame]

turning HAGS off gets rid of the stutter, but I never had to turn it off with previous nvidia drivers

[small zinc]

Oh that reminds me to download that again. I played the first test a while back.

[winged skiff]

Is there a good guide for unndervolting?

I did undervolt, managed to get lower voltage & power draw at for the same fps, but my temp stays the same prior to undervolting

did I do something wrong, or my room is just hot?

[pale quartz]

no, undervolting doesnt = less heat

[small zinc]

Well, that's not entirely true. Undervolting does produce less power draw, therefore less heat is a byproduct of it.

[small zinc]

What are you trying to undervolt? CPU? GPU? Both?

But in any case, there are all kinds of tech forums and guides online on how to do as such

[pale quartz]

the reported temperature, the sensors on GPUs are on or around the die, only serious levels of mV undervolting will actually produce any difference

and by then youre approaching instability

[prime jasper]

Is the hotspot reading on rdna3 gpus a new sensor?

[small zinc]

https://www.maketecheasier.com/reduce-cpu-temperature-undervolting/#:~:text=Undervolting%2C simply put%2C reduces the,Simple.

https://www.technewstoday.com/how-to-undervolt-cpu/

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-undervolt-cpu-guide/

Reducing temperatures is a direct result of undervolting. Period.

[pale quartz]

ok..?

linking 3 articles doesnt change what was said

[small zinc]

And you're wrong

Ohm's Law proves this

[pale quartz]

did you even bother reading the first comment