True but he is gonna hit motherboard limitation first. He would need a mid range to high end z790 at least.
#technology
nocturne drift
open herald
Anyone know if ea bf1 progress servers are down?
small zinc
Timings > Frequency.
prime jasper
Isn't it more about striking a balance
small zinc
I'd personally rather have DDR5 5600 RAM with a CAS Latency of 28 vs a Set of DDR5 7600 CL 36
The higher frequency isn't going to do squat
not a damn thing
can guarantee that 5600 set will outperform the higher frequency RAM
prime jasper
Not really though since you can't just look at CAS latency
small zinc
Sure. I'm saying though, lower CL will generally also have lower timings as well
And that 5600 with lower timings will outperform that 7600 Mhz all day
It's just like when you Overclock a CPU. Doesn't do anything for you
Nothing.
It's only effective in synthetic benchmarks for those who like to see their pee pees get hard over benchmark scores that have zero translation to real world performance
prime jasper
Doesn't do anything?
small zinc
The only time OC'ing a CPU is beneficial is when it becomes bottlenecked by a GPU
No. Overclock a CPU and tell me how much higher performance you get in any game
I'll wait.
Again, the only exception i'll give you is the RTX 4090. That's because there isn't a CPU in existence that it doesn't bottleneck
small zinc
Lmao. You're linking me 1080p benchmarks with a 3090....
I can't even take that seriously.
And you just proved my point.
prime jasper
Your original statement was overclocking does nothing for you
clearly it does something
small zinc
You proved my point.
Thank you
The 3090 is EXTREMELY bottlenecked at 1080p
lmao
Yes of course OC'ing improves performance due to releasing some of that bottlennecked performance
As I already mentioned.
prime jasper
There are other examples aside from gaming where you see a performance increase with OC
It's not in the double digits or that significant but it's there and would go against your original statement
small zinc
Dude. Just hit the I believe button. OC'ing a CPU doesn't translate to real world performance.
Sure. Link me all the benchmarks in the world.
My point still remains
It's miniscule
And my original point of RAM definitely remains
higher frequency RAM does NOT outperform lower frequency RAM with lower timings.
The end.
small zinc
You're welcome to go ahead and learn how RAM works before we can continue this conversation though
prime jasper
Your statement on ram is also contentious though
small zinc
How so?
prime jasper
Because high frequency ram is capable of reading and writing data faster
small zinc
Numerous articles on why lower timings outperform higher frequencies
prime jasper
the use case isn't always gaming but I'd agree it was in this case
small zinc
This article is older and pertains to DDR4, but the concept still applies here to faster DDR5
So sure, higher frequency might have higher clock cycles obviously. But that's going to be limited by the column address strobe. The lower that number the faster the memory can access the next column
In general, the lower the timings, the fewer clock cycles the memory controller has to wait.
prime jasper
If we go back to your vague response of "timings>frequency", what did that have to do with what I said? My point was buying a newer cpu that has an imc capable of higher frequencies would be better when faster kits become more effective in the future
small zinc
"more effective"
meaning lower timings
Or rather, lower number of cycles
We've reached a point with DDR4 and now with DDR5 that these insane clocks on them have reached a limit that becomes no longer effective
prime jasper
Still confused of why that has to do with what I said
It's not like the higher frequency kits in future won't have lower primary timings aswell
small zinc
Still confused of why that has to do with what I said
I'm pretty confident I've more than explained and answered your question. Even linked you a Tom's article explaining why this is.
So sure. If memory companies are able to produce memory controllers with lower timings, then sure, by all means a higher clocked frequency will certainly improve performance.
prime jasper
The toms hardware article still has nothing to do with what I said
small zinc
It absolutely does
you just didn't read it.
That much is clear.
It even shows that lower frequency DDR4 with lower timings outperforms higher clocked memory with higher timings.
My point still remains.
prime jasper
It even shows that lower frequency DDR4 with lower timings outperforms higher c...
Where in the article does it say this
small zinc
Since a clock cycle’s time is inversely proportional to frequency, the faster the memory, the more clock cycles it takes to reach our middle standard, 10ns. DDR4-3600 does it in 18 cycles. DDR4-4000 does it in 20 cycles. Shaving access time below that standard requires fewer cycles of latency per frequency, so that DDR4-3200 C14 (8.75ns) and DDR4-3600 C16 (8.89ns) both exceed our middle standard.
Oh hey look. The DDR4-3200 RAM with lower latency accesses each column faster.
Weird.
small zinc
You said outperform
You're kind of arguing a losing battle aren't you
How does that not outperform???
Please enlighten me
I'll stand by for your infinite wisdom explanation on this.
I'm sure it will make sense and be logical too
prime jasper
It's not a benchmark 
prime jasper
And it still doesn't have to do with my original statement of future proofing for higher speed ddr5, especially the difference in frequency you can push on 13th gen relative to 12th gen
prime jasper
To outperform it means to perform better than, I don't see where in the article it's demonstrating where it performs better I just see that's it's measuring and comparing the latency of kits with different frequency
Is a 13600k worth 70$ more over a 12700k?
Lmk rn ima buy it
No
toxic wigeon
Is a 13600k worth 70$ more over a 12700k?
Do you value the extra cores? The 12700K is a good choice.
prime jasper
I bought it
toxic wigeon
It's cheaper anyways.
prime jasper
220
toxic wigeon
Which one did you get.
prime jasper
12700k
toxic wigeon
Good.
nocturne drift
To outperform it means to perform better than, I don't see where in the article ...
higher frequency and strike a balance, you are right
no need to argue with him
cpu memory controller clock speed is a thing as well
this is why when buildzoid and everyone in oc discord does ram oc we loosen the timing first and test how high the frequency can go.
also someone is selling a golden sample 13900ks for 1300 USD LOL
people got so heated it got deleted/withdrawn
toxic wigeon
Will the b650 support x3d right from the get go or nah.
nocturne drift
no clue
I hope so, imagine updating bios and mobo dont have usb bios flash without cpu function
fickle sparrow
Is a 3060ti and a Ryzen 7 5800x enough to run BF2042 on 1080p on Constanze 60fps?
molten flame
Intel 13th gen refresh Q3, 14th gen in Q4
small zinc
cpu memory controller clock speed is a thing as well
Sure is. But you obviously know a memory controller can only go as fast as the column address allows it to go. You can overclock all day. You ain’t gettin there any faster until the memory controller finishes accessing each column
I really wish you guys would quit putting all your eggs in that basket of “fAsTeR iS bEtTeR”
Sure. Higher frequency = more clock cycles. That’s great when timings are also lower to allow that
nocturne drift
That's why you got to strike a balance. For example. I run 4000 cl15 instead or 4133 cl16
End of the day we have tools to check latency
Whatever has the lowest wins.
nocturne drift
Not to mention Cas latency for ddr5 is not super important and buildzoid said it's there to look pretty.
pale quartz
Will the b650 support x3d right from the get go or nah.
not possible, AGESAs are only built when a processor comes out
you'll need to flash a new BIOS
prime jasper
yea you can pay small fee so they update it for you, many retailers has such services, or do it yourself
think most motherboards now support bios update even without supported cpu
even the asus prime b650 has bios flashback
quick locust
forspoken minimum specs
It ran so terrible on Pyro's 3090 ti
Even on low settings
nocturne drift
What is that?
quick locust
server with four H100 80GB gpus
prime jasper
My brother´s, you recommend me the OMEN 16 with the Ryzen 7 or 9?
nocturne drift
Microcenter got crazy zen4 deal. 7900X + Asus strix mobo + 32gb ddr5 ram for 600
prime jasper
Nice
molten flame
toxic wigeon
STEAL.
prime jasper
Microcenter got crazy zen4 deal. 7900X + Asus strix mobo + 32gb ddr5 ram for 600
Where???
midnight crypt
not very
pale quartz
scam site don't use it
serene ruin
why?
userbenchmark is very precise tho
its a very good site to compare components...
prime jasper
Except it isn't at all
nocturne drift
Wtf
Userbenchmark is joke.
3Dmark is OK but does not scale with 3D chip I think.
prime jasper
I just check techpowerup usually 
pale quartz
why?
far from it lol, the guy is an intel fanboy who runs the site, cross comparisons between components are weighted using their bullshit algorithm to weight intel over everything else, under no circumstances should you ever use that site
serene ruin
idk, i made good experiences with it, and at least what i tested my self was pretty accurate there
pale quartz
it's not
serene ruin
the gpu stats are accurate as well
pale quartz
they use a measurement called "eFPS" which came around when ryzen started gaining ground in the market, they aren't hiding their intel fanboyism either, in fact they're honest about it
serene ruin
the pricing is goofy, but the rest is actually not bad
pale quartz
no it's garbage for CPUs and GPUs
serene ruin
yea, u might be right, though at least the performences i checked were mostly accurate, i know cuz i compared really many web sites and vids, but idk
pale quartz
any site is better than userbenchmark for cross comparisons, to the point of Intel's own distorted graphs have more accuracy than they do
stay clear of it
serene ruin
are you amd user?
serene ruin
i had 2 intels and at the moment i have ryzen in my laptop and pc, i personally like amd more when it comes to price efficient cpus, but i still have done many benchmarks my own, so i can tell quiet sure, that the most comparisons especially between gpus are accurate
pale quartz
they're not
their raster benchmarks for GPUs don't mean anything and have 0 weight against cross vendor
serene ruin
have you done any benchmarks and test?
serene ruin
then you shouldnt be roasting them that much
pale quartz
I dont have sympathy for shills, or that site, nothing on the website is accurate for consumers or hardcore users
serene ruin
can you give me one example of a very inaccurate comparison?
pale quartz
where does it need to begin? the entire eFPS category
serene ruin
at this point i am more curious then any thing else lol
cause till now i havent faced such a radical opinion about userbenchmark
serene ruin
where does it need to begin? the entire eFPS category
just a screenshot of two gpus/cpus ranked wrong would be fine
pale quartz
https://www.gizmosphere.org/stop-using-userbenchmark/ theres an entire article
and lol you'll find my opinion isn't radical, it's what 90% of tech enthusiasts say
serene ruin
I've built pcs for over half a decade of course lol
and in this case i have another question, i have not much experience especially with high end stuff, i build 2-3 pc but never high end, now i am about to build a new pc with i7 13700kf and rtx 4080, how many fans should i build in the case (i have beQueit dark Rock 4 as cpu cooler)?
pale quartz
your fan count isn't that important, it's your exhaust and intake amount you'll need to check
the defacto rule is if the fans are 120mm in size then 3 should be intake, 140mm 2 and 1 exhaust will work fine
serene ruin
at the moment i am planning to install 2 intakes on top and one on the side, there will be one outtake on the other side, to bring the warm air from the cpu out
serene ruin
ill send u a pic of kinda how i imagined it
pale quartz
I know how you're imagining it
do not do that
you will create unequal air circulation in your case, it isn't what you're thinking
serene ruin
https://www.gizmosphere.org/stop-using-userbenchmark/ theres an entire article
thanks
pale quartz
intake on the right only and exhaust on the left, there's only specific circumstances where exhaust goes on the top, yours isn't one of them
https://ownsnap.com/userbenchmark-biased-admin/ has an entire essay on userbenchmark
nocturne drift
I smoke on userbenchmark as well
serene ruin
serene ruin
but one more outtake, one less intake
pale quartz
https://preview.redd.it/ajjmsa16xqu51.jpg?auto=webp&s=7eeb68120c070c4f8d88a898d4...
you will create unequal air circulation in your case, it isn't what you're thinking
nocturne drift
No one in the PC community I am in respect userbenchmark
serene ruin
> you will create unequal air circulation in your case, it isn't what you're thi...
why?
pale quartz
read what else I said
serene ruin
i see, but still, why should intake on top be bad in my case
pale quartz
because the cold air that's coming into the case blows hot air down inside
it doesn't work the way you're thinking
keep it simple, don't overcomplicate it, you'll just make things worse
serene ruin
so 3 intake on the right, i think i have at the moment one 140mm and 2 120 mm
pale quartz
that's fine
serene ruin
and one outtake on the left
small zinc
Pretty impressed with the 7900x PBO overclock. As I've mentioned before there isn't a CPU in existence that doesn't bottleneck the 4090 to some extent. The ASUS PBO tool in the BIOS is sufficient enough without messing with voltages and multipliers manually and it boosts the 7900x to 5700mhz on all cores. Makes a pretty significant difference for my 4090. Pretty much outperforming 13900K's now
serene ruin
that's fine
thanks for ur help
pale quartz
np
small zinc
I normally don't care about benchmarks because they're real world translation isn't the same whatsoever. But I've been running Unigine 2 Super Position just to test temps and stability and still scoring higher than most Raptor Lake users
21K score on 1080p extreme preset. Not a bad score with mostly stock settings minus the onboard PBO auto overclocks.
Also pretty impressed with the ASUS TUF 4090. Literally the same DCUII cooling as the Strix branded AIB, and costs $400 bucks less
Makes no sense to me.
Same clocks...
nocturne drift
I am saving up money rn for a 13900k or ks
I want to go kinda OC again.
Maybe get a contact frame and delid tool
Thing is tho I need a very expensive mobo for 7600+
That's gonna hurt
prime jasper
The evga dark gets discounted after I while
dry pike
most things do
cosmic warren
Help when I click BF Hardline it doesn't do anything it just goes fullscreen and then to window mode and then I can't play the game?
daring socket
Help when I click BF Hardline it doesn't do anything it just goes fullscreen and...
Press alt+enter
while in window mode
cosmic warren
just goes back to window mode
gilded tulip
I reinstalled windows. I got an intel CPU. Is it necessary to install chipset and MEI drivers? Will it decrease my performance?
candid flame
nah
gilded tulip
nah
Just to be clear, it is not necessary right?
I got an rtx card, it has usb-c port. I am not using it and i did not install the driver for it. In the device manager it appears with a yellow triangle. Is it okay to leave as it is? No penalty to system performance?
candid flame
Just to be clear, it is not necessary right?
I got an rtx card, it has usb-c po...
nope no penalty, although if device manager is saying there's some problem with it, you should fix that
just in case
pale quartz
Just to be clear, it is not necessary right?
I got an rtx card, it has usb-c po...
it is necessary, the chipset drivers are responsible for I/O
install the MEI and chipset drivers unless you want devices not to work
candid flame
I thought they were installed by windows?
unless it messes something up you shouldn't need to reinstall them, right?
pale quartz
no they're not, windows installs virtual adapter drivers they aren't the main drivers
candid flame
ah
pale quartz
it's just for basic communication
gilded tulip
install the MEI and chipset drivers unless you want devices not to work
Thanks for the reply. I got few more questions please.
- I disabled in the BIOS on-board audio, because i got a headphones with external soundcard. I did not install realtek drivers, because it is not needed. Any penalty to system performance?
- When is it safe to connect to internet? I unplugged my ethernet cable before installing windows and have not plugged it in. I have installed chipset ,mei and Nvidia driver. Can i I connect now?
pale quartz
Thanks for the reply. I got few more questions please.
1) I disabled in the BIOS...
1: switch on onboard audio, just because you don't use it doesn't mean you turn it off
2: you install your ethernet cable before installing windows, it performs automatic searches for updates and drivers
candid flame
for a laptop cpu, under load, 90c is normal temp right?
umbral crater
Isn't it 70?
gritty imp
Why isn’t my gpu doing anything when running BF5
midnight crypt
its taking a nap
gritty imp
its taking a nap
Wdym
pale quartz
for a laptop cpu, under load, 90c is normal temp right?
yup perfectly fine
a laptop chassis is exceptionally thin so heat dissipation takes a back seat, 90c is normal
candid flame
exactly, nerds over at the acer discord are screaming because their nitro 5, their low-end lineup, is heating up to 90c under gaming load
pale quartz
lol see big number panic cause wow it's big
cursive marten
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BPS1ZW1H?ie=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=wulffdenbob-20&linkId=c6310defc48c2429ff59ddaa64b6941b&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl so i was just informed that these exist.
Hall effect Switch joysticks. that's pretty cool.
molten flame
primal pier
small zinc
Lmao, the 4090 already bottlenecks literally any CPU in existence. What's this for?
Few more points in dumbass Firestrike?
pale quartz
it's the titan, server clients
small zinc
it's the titan, server clients
You're naive if you think people are buying this for server clients....
It's to measure their e-penis size in synthetic benchmarks
small zinc
Wrong. You know there are going to be dumbasses with mom and dad's wallets who buy this for gaming.
pale quartz
right and how does this change the majority are server clients?
small zinc
By knowing for a fact that every "Titan" branded GPU before 30 series stopped doing it, Nvidia slaps a "Geforce" sticker on the box and people fell for it
Nvidia knows what they're doing. They do it on purpose.
pale quartz
you're just saying words
small zinc
Titan was never meant to be a gaming GPU, even though it worked well as one.
pale quartz
servers buy titan class cards.. and above, nothing has changed
whether some gamer buys it or not isn't relevant
small zinc
Perhaps, but you're also super naive if you don't think consumers won't buy this
Regardless of price
pale quartz
people buying this arent consumers lol, they're prosumers
small zinc
100% guaranteed day of release, you will see 3DMark scores posted online with it.
pale quartz
yeah
small zinc
Just because they get hard on seeing synthetic scores
Although I highly doubt RTX Ada will have any effect on actual game benchmarks.
Noticeable effect I should say
I do agree that Titan GPU's have always been great for professional compute applications. That's what they were designed for initially.
Hell, I doubt even synthetic benchmarks will change much from the 4090.
Unless you get those few individuals who are putting a 13900ks on LN2 and overclock to 7+ Ghz
Oh and a power supply that won't blow up doing all that
normal rain
hey guys whats the best map/location to farm bots for weapons?
maybe a video
primal pier
coarse nimbus
plug straight to your wall outlet
dryer outlet* gotta go straight to 220v
oblique tree
no _consumer_ is buying it
That's where you would be wrong buckaroo... where there is missing inches, there is compensation
olive ridge
hello, has the update improved the management of 8c/16t processors?
toxic wigeon
Not sure in what way you mean.
summer sonnet
What are the pros and cons of sumers I am very confused
solid wharf
hello, has the update improved the management of 8c/16t processors?
are you asking if there's perf improvements?
rose hornet
Anyone been able to the the T16000 hotas to work for battlefield
abstract tendon
still didnt get my game i see the instant payment on my bank app thnx ea robbers
dry pike
still didnt get my game i see the instant payment on my bank app thnx ea robbers
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candid flame
what game did you buy, through which platform?
candid flame
on steam?
abstract tendon
No ea app
candid flame
contact EA support
abstract tendon
Let’s say the new origin
They are not gonna help me
Bc I found out that’s an old email
quick locust
Well noone here can solve it for you
candid flame
wdym they won't help, they have to lol
contact customer support, some guy will fix it for you
quick locust
You'll have to email or ask EA
abstract tendon
do you know what the most stupid things is? if you can log in you should find your backup codes but when i try it its still sending verfication emails
proud bane
anyone know how to fix being stuck on the opening cinematic?
toxic wigeon
Hey what's up with a 5800x being stuck at 100% usage despite the fact that my mate with his own doesn't hit that?
prime jasper
I might be dumb but is the WIFI antenna on asus TUF motherboard also for bluetooth?
because i dont have it on and my bluetooth connection is awful
it probably is, put it on and my xbox controller is not disconnecting no more
molten flame
yeah most of the time it's for both wifi and bluetooth
molten flame
Hey what's up with a 5800x being stuck at 100% usage despite the fact that my ma...
malware using CPU to mine altcoins
abstract tendon
bruh ea changed my email and i dont get security codes in my mail xd
oblique tree
bruh ea changed my email and i dont get security codes in my mail xd
you sure you weren't hacked?
abstract tendon
im sure
pale quartz
I might be dumb but is the WIFI antenna on asus TUF motherboard also for bluetoo...
yes, the antenna distributes signals from the chipset to external devices using the antenna on wifi and BT
prime jasper
Nerd
trim wave
how to fix battlefield 1 "ok" button loading screen
i wasted so much space just for battlefield 1
ping me when anyone know the problem
toxic wigeon
Amd expo?
midnight crypt
basically xmp
glossy musk
Hello i have offtopic question, so when i install red dead redemption 2 there is a thing in task manager called "oo2reck" and it takes about 90% of cpu but when i end task it the installation fails and says it cant be installed without the "oo2reck" should i be worried or should i install it anyways? is it miner?
candid flame
are you trying to install a pirated version?
oo2reck is a compression tool, it can contain everything in there
probably a bunch of malwares
pale quartz
Amd expo?
AMD EXPO is the term used for the soon~ to be integrated software set which enables settings by default which are good for AMD devices, it includes RDNA as well as CPU/XMP settings
pale quartz
midnight crypt
wonder how hot they run
candid flame
ever accidentally touch a hot stove?
dry pike
Thanks asrock
How not to make graphs
abstract tendon
Payment pending - means that you need to complete your payment either offline or through a third-party source, like PayPal.
i payed with sofort can i do this somewhere?
crude pewter
I play bf2042 on and off simply because the performance is terrible. Ik the game is badly optimised but getting 40FPS with 25FPS spikes just pisses me off with a decent PC. Anyone know a few fixes?
PC specs:
i5 9400f
16GB ram
RTX 3060
1Tb SSD 3000mbps
750W PSU
I play on low settings btw
1080p
pale quartz
I play bf2042 on and off simply because the performance is terrible. Ik the game...
time for a CPU upgrade lol
prime jasper
I play bf2042 on and off simply because the performance is terrible. Ik the game...
Update drivers, make sure no programs are using cpu in the background. See if your motherboard has ability to enable resizable bar. Try if dlss helps
Check you aren't thermal throttling
And the game isn't badly optimized
dense urchin
I used to have the 9400f and it was decent up until about 2022 for the games i played anyway, i upgraded it tho in October 2022
primal pier
Oh shit it’s ice
dense urchin
hello angra :))
nocturne drift
Yeah 9400f is big oof
prime jasper
it should still get more fps as some weaker i3 even run it better
probably pc issue
pale quartz
it doesnt have HT, it isnt going to perform faster
prime jasper
it can always perform better knowing how badly people use their PC
backround programs using cpu, outdated drivers, bad bios settings
it might not be much better but at that performance level every frame is plus
i know logitech g hub used constantly 1-4% of cpu when i had it
that was enough to cause stutter in cpu bound game
also could be worth to play 64 player modes instead of 128
prime jasper
honestly dont know what you are trying to say
there is big difference in 128 player mode and lower player count modes in the performance
cpu's like 9400f can run it much better in 64 player mode and lower
crude pewter
cpu's like 9400f can run it much better in 64 player mode and lower
That’s a fact from someone that’s using it.
BF1 and BFV is like 100FPS
It runs all other games at over 100FPS so calling it a shit cpu is a exaggeration. I’m not gonna upgrade until it struggles at 60fps on new games, BF2042 is just different cuz it’s bf2042.
CoD MWII is 120FPS, 3060 is slowing up on that game.
Before season 3 which was meant to make performance better my fps just dropped from 70-80 to 40-50 or 50-60 depending on the map.
I thought it was shaders but I’ve played it enough for that to stop
@prime jasper I appreciate your tips btw I’ll try them when I get home. I can upgrade to a i7 9700k with my current motherboard but I kinda want to get a newer generation.
toxic wigeon
I love having 4 more megabytes worth of Cache over a 7900x3d!
Seriously though.
This'd be heat.
grave valve
does anybody have Mouse issues, like it feels as if the sensitivity changes mid gunfight
like changes in framerate mess with the flow of your sensitivity
midnight crypt
it will do that yes
grave valve
can it not
potent temple
Just got my new Game PC 🙏
Would send a picture but idk how to do it seems it's impossible to insert one.
dry pike
Just got my new Game PC 🙏
congrats!
posting images in most channels require the regular or booster roles
potent temple
Ah I see, thanks for the heads up 🙂
vernal pendant
oh right embeds, it's the new absurd twitter API pricing scheme
500 reqs for $150 up to 10k reqs for $2500
amber perch
anyone good with troubleshooting? i jus built a pc its on and everything except its guving just a cpu led and wint connect to monitor
opaque solar
Has anyone else experience a huge performance drop after the last update? Lot of stuttering, could it be my processor? How does one know if to upgrade either processor, graphics card or RAM?
pale quartz
Has anyone else experience a huge performance drop after the last update? Lot of...
depends on what youre using right now
cosmic warren
Why upgrade to the latest and newest when used cpu ryzen market is at the best prices I've seen in long time
toxic wigeon
I can't wait for a 5995x3d threadripper.
prime jasper
Why upgrade to the latest and newest when used cpu ryzen market is at the best p...
These CPUs will be popular amongst the people who have rtx4090/4080 since those GPUs are cpu bottlenecked even at 4k
prime jasper
Go
Yo
Anyone online rn
If my mobo has a Io shield pre-installed do i need to take it off
I cant see any clips or screws to unlatch it either
midnight crypt
you shouldn't remove it
prime jasper
Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered.
prime jasper
yeah i just updated the newest driver yesterday
might use the older driver, it ran good
prime jasper
Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.
might be time to yeet the samsung 970 or whatever is my system drive lol
Samsung magician says its still good tho
nocturne drift
Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them. ...
Thay happens to like every pc I encounters that's more than a couple years old.
No need to worry
turbid verge
Bought myself the new Sennheiser IE 200, since as a european Moondrop is out of question
crystal gorge
Is it still worth buying a 5800X3D? I have a 3700x with 32GB Ram. I manily game to 70-80%
toxic wigeon
Do you want to buy a new motherboard?
With ram.
If not. Get the 5800x3d.
The 7000x3d series is on the horizon but what you make of it will depend.
crystal gorge
I have a B450 MSI Tomahawk Max
So I would only be the CPU
If I upgrade to 7000 series, I have to buy everything new. Before that, I rather upgrade to Intel
prime jasper
what gpu you would be using with 5800x3d?
crystal gorge
1080Ti...for the moment
prime jasper
you are already maxing the gpu pretty much, you would need also new gpu to get something out from the cpu
crystal gorge
My main game is Escape from Tarkov, it's heavy CPU bound
candid flame
nah it's not cpu bound, it's just unoptimized 
candid flame
when I had 16gb, it used 8gb, when I upgraded to 32gb, it used 16gb. The game is just wack. It won't fully utilize my cpu or gpu, just hovering at 40% cpu and around 10% gpu
crystal gorge
Friend of mine had almost the same setup like mine, he benefits from the 58x3d...
candid flame
the servers are also putting stress on your pc, lowering the performance. I installed the offline mod which means I have to host my own server on my pc and I still get better frames than online
crystal gorge
I heard about that mod
nocturne drift
what is ur gpu usage in tarkov?
crystal gorge
what is ur gpu usage in tarkov?
30-40%
prime jasper
Friend of mine had almost the same setup like mine, he benefits from the 58x3d.....
you will benefit from it but its minimal, tarkov is early access still so its not fully optimized
crystal gorge
you are already maxing the gpu pretty much, you would need also new gpu to get s...
What GPU would you recommend?
nocturne drift
id do 5800x 3d tbh
candid flame
yeah it's just a good cpu overall for gaming
prime jasper
What GPU would you recommend?
the one you can afford 
crystal gorge
I play on 1440p. The problem in eft is this wipe or v0.13. last wipe I had around 100-144 fps, depends which map etc. Lighthouse was 65-85. This wipe I don't get near 80
candid flame
yeah...same here
quick locust
Odd, I'll check what I get later
abstract tendon
Lol ea is a joke it’s Friday bought the game Tuesday and still haven’t got it
flint maple
so i just learned about this funny gpt-3 bug, apparently the network just doesn't like the token SolidGoldMagikarp and always mixes it up with distribute
no matter what you ask about it
or how you ask it to repeat it back
prime jasper
prime jasper
Why is nvidia driver upgrade a thing when it often causes problems and you need to delete the driver anyway and do clean install
I wonder how many crashing pc's are because of that
nocturne drift
Why is amd aegsa upgrade a thing when it often causes problem and there is a new one every other day
I wonder how many crashing pc's are because of that
prime jasper
i dont know how that works
but nvidia driver update never install the new correctly
and you need to ddu and install anyway
and people were saying nvidia dont have driver problems lol
its all the same amd or nvidia
the drivers
jeez
i should buy intel arc
nocturne drift
quick locust
prime jasper
but nvidia driver update never install the new correctly
and if I wanna roll back?
ur telling me I didnt roll back to dec 1st driver correctly
just by installing it and calling it a day
you did not
nocturne drift
Ur most likely fine.
I only ddu like once ever 4 months
If what he said is true I'd be troubleshooting alot of customers.
prime jasper
Not everyone need to send their pc for repair if their drivers aren't working
It's a fact that nvidia drivers aren't good as they used to be
quiet minnow
anyone having crash to desktop issues on windows 11?
Last time I played was after launch and I just reinstalled and was able to game for a few hours, the nothing but crashes now. GPU is 70c, Ram is 35% used, CPU is 14%
quiet minnow
On the "system" tab
Thanks. I reviewed the logs and nothing specific. I'll check them again right after a crash.
nocturne drift
Not everyone need to send their pc for repair if their drivers aren't working
They don't send their pc for repair. They would email or ask in discord, and ddu doesn't solve anything usually. Usually is dead af evga 30 series.
But true Nvidia drivers were really bad last year.
Worst year ever
Q4 is fine Q2-3 is a clown show.
simple spear
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331914392776081409/1071135417497301082/Fn...
Anyone duthc here? Or at least people who uncerstand dutch
quick locust
candid flame
I spent like 300$ on windows
midnight crypt
ive done none of those
storm osprey
ive bought an os
storm osprey
i lie, i bought incompatible parts with my first build, but the incompatibility was a really weird situation
pale quartz
insert uses external power cables that weren't made by their power supply manufacturer because it's white
serene ruin
insert uses external power cables that weren't made by their power supply manufa...
Dunno if u remember, but now i built the pc and the cpu is running at 60% usage at around 75°C, thats with 3 intake in front and one exhaust at the back (all 120mm), so im gonna install another exhaust on the top over the cpu, but actually it isnt even necessary
pale quartz
cool
serene ruin
Yee
prime jasper
I had bad airflow case once
prime jasper
is this normal on windows 11?
candid flame
yes
prime jasper
Weird
candid flame
you can turn off core isolation and see if the usage drops
candid flame
"local" online store has a 20% off on 4070ti 13th i7 prebuilt, still expensive af tho
broken nest
userbenchmark when AMD
broken nest
they will literally turn ANYTHING against them it's so odd
quick locust
quick locust
the blood sacrifice and io shield tiles should be combined
indeed
midnight crypt
cant you avoid all the bloatware if you dont log in to a samsung account
molten flame
celest shell
Okay tech geeks 🤓 I'm still having quite a time with 2042. Cpu is still stuck at 100% playing 2042. Sluggish movement delayed everything. A few updates ago it was okay now its getting worse. Is there still a cpu optimization issue ?
dry pike
Okay tech geeks 🤓 I'm still having quite a time with 2042. Cpu is still stuck ...
Might want to have a look at https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Season-3-update-CPU-at-a-constant-100-usage/td-p/12072755/page/57
vernal pendant
just found out there was a bad batch of samsung 870 evo SSDs and mine has been slowly dying
thankfully didn't seem to lose any important data
just random bad blocks in the middle of installed games and my music collection
anyone know what the samsung RMA process is like?
short pawn
still waiting for a new amd non 7000 driver
pale quartz
anyone know what the samsung RMA process is like?
is heavily dependent on the region you're contacting for the RMA, Samsung's RMA process is done by subcontractors, tldr is you cover the costs for delivery and any import/taxes that are due at your own expense
pale quartz
still waiting for a new amd non 7000 driver
coming in a few weeks
short pawn
coming in a few weeks
Thanks
turbid verge
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/the-samsung-galaxy-s23s-bloated-android-...
me who's gonna buy the S23 Ultra next month
stable ledge
The sound effect of the battlefield 2042 is too low, which is very unpleasant.
pale quartz
The sound effect of the battlefield 2042 is too low, which is very unpleasant.
change your audio mix
cursive marten
Look at these open-source 3d printed headphones. o3o
made by one crop_octagon on Reddit.
molten flame
prime jasper
im stuck with one isp and they aren't giving more speed
its older tech (vdsl2) but they don't even enable the 30a profile even though even 35b would be possible in this area
17a is enabled but even that isn't full speed of 150/50
quick locust
Dsl rip
prime jasper
only 100/10
35b wouls be 300/100
but they wanna sell more 5g being tele operator
the thing is fiber optic was put in the ground 2 years ago when they run the new power cables too
but that is not being used
only in finland
there is ethernet port in the apartment where i could put router
but instead im stuck with vdsl2 because the operator is being dumbass
other operators can't provide connection because 🤷
nocturne drift
I heard hogwarts Legacy is a cpu/ram bottleneck city with a high end gpu
Idk the game but sounds like alot of foliage and buildings to calculate
turbid verge
Look at these open-source 3d printed headphones. o3o
I saw that post, actually incredible work, the guy should make more and sell them
but the real deal would be if he gets a measurement to compare to the current headphones on the market
cursive marten
I saw that post, actually incredible work, the guy should make more and sell the...
they actually do. They’re planning to sell full kits, and pre-assembled ones as well.
turbid verge
to see how the treble, bass, mids, highs and lows are tuned
turbid verge
they actually do. They’re planning to sell full kits, and pre-assembled ones as ...
over time is good, something that not many brands do, but why I like sennheiser they sell pads for example and since those degrade over time you can buy them and replace old ones pretty easy
cursive marten
Yeah they also sell replacement pads.
turbid verge
but atm not going to buy myself a new set of headphones
as I just bought a new pair of IEM's
cursive marten
My current headphones are dead due to a broken cable.
I would like to fix them but I lack the tools and experience to do so.
turbid verge
I have a pair of sennheiser headphones the HD 579
not the best but not the worse, they're in the middle, but god tier would be a pair of the HD600
cursive marten
Mine are the Samson SR850’s. I really like them, it’s just a shame that the cable tends to break on them.
Would like to mod em to make the cable removable. Which would solve this problem.
turbid verge
yeh good thing about sennheiser is the fact cable removal is user friendly
cursive marten
Yeah. but again, lack of tools and experience.
turbid verge
I guess but I mean for the headphones price and audio quality even in the wave measurements and even build quality
they're on a good spot
Same for IEM's, although the problem with IEM's the asia market is huge and they have really good quality products but if you're european/american importing them will cost you a bit
cursive marten
I have a pair of KZ earbuds. They’re good. They’re what I’m using now that my headphones are dead.
turbid verge
yeh those are great
prime jasper
i use akg k371
really nice sound
though apparently they have slight boost on sub bass but its very pleasant
very comfortable to wear too
with glasses too
grim trench
just upgraded to a Ryzen 5 7600
man my BF2042 performance surged
I knew my 8700k was a limitation but not by how much
toxic wigeon
You'd be surprised.
prime jasper
man my BF2042 performance surged
what kind of fps are you getting in 128 player?
north crow
@prime jasper are we living in the same building
grim trench
what kind of fps are you getting in 128 player?
only done 64 player so far but hit my 162fps limit regularly
north crow
we also had fiber routed to the building but never finished
so there's just this unterminated fiber in the electrical box and everyone has to use vdsl or 5g
I tried to push for it to be finished but eventually gave up and just got 5g
thanks telia
prime jasper
for me its elisa
the finnish competition
they have all kinds of deals
and only pushing 5G
prime jasper
only done 64 player so far but hit my 162fps limit regularly
very nice
north crow
and only pushing 5G
we could probably get telia to finish the deployment here
but it'd cost money and the general sentiment at the apartment building's yearly general meeting(? yhtiökokous) has been "5g is the future anyway!"
so that's a pipe dream
they're not exactly wrong I guess. like you said, ISPs are mainly pushing 5G
prime jasper
i hope their deal ends soon with this area so fiber providers can sell me fast connection, elisa are not gonna have exclusive forever, there are laws and new laws coming
there is profit to be made so competition is surely looking to cash in with it
there are non tele providers now that are pushing fiber
grim trench
there was a gasleak in front of my house 3 days ago when fiber was being installed
but the upside is that I should be able to switch to a 500Mb connection soon
midnight crypt
until the house goes boom
flint brook
Mine are the Samson SR850’s. I really like them, it’s just a shame that the cabl...
damn i had the sr950
the closed back one
would recommend koss ksc75
flint brook
as I just bought a new pair of IEM's
which ones?
turbid verge
which ones?
sennheiser IE 200
flint brook
great
turbid verge
I like them, plus the cable is solid
since moondrop or KZ I have to import and would cost me a lot in shipping plus customs taxes
flint brook
since moondrop or KZ I have to import and would cost me a lot in shipping plus c...
oh i see
where you from btw
turbid verge
welcome to EU 
flint brook
aah
here in India we have ez access to iems... multiple audiophile stores that import in bulk then sell here...
good mechanical keyboards is what is hard to get here
quick locust
rip amd in rt
midnight crypt
damn that aint good
quick locust
intel beating amd
ivory creek
a swedish isp called bahnhof apparently managed to reach 6.8gb/s through wifi 7, which is a new swedish record
whats crazy is that you have to pay less for their 10gb/s than i pay for my 300mb/s
prime jasper
rip amd in rt
This looks more like an optimisation issue than a hardware one
midnight crypt
dont think the game has any proper game ready drivers yet
dry tangle
guys i recently downloded the game and have technicial issues so can i post here?
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molten flame
toxic wigeon
Jeeesus.
prime jasper
rip amd in rt
rip every card in 4k RT
4090 36.5 fps is barely playable
depending on what the lows are
1% lows 26 fps
quick locust
https://tpucdn.com/review/hogwarts-legacy-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/im...
It's just allocation though otherwise 3070 users would get rekt
But it still does alright
prime jasper
quick locust
4090 36.5 fps is barely playable
5090 for hogwarts when
prime jasper
Chilling w my 4090
prime jasper
Would like to see system requirements show 1440p
quick locust
Same
prime jasper
That resolution will replace 1080p coming years
When people look for new monitor they see 1440p being in the sweet spot
And new gpu's can deliver high fps on games where it matters @1440p
quick locust
I mean they already can
prime jasper
copper anvil
Is there actual sex in that game
quick locust
Uh idk
turbid verge
rip amd in rt
its both nvidia and amd can't run the game on ultra or with RT
basically at Max and/or with RT the game has graphical issues, although think day one patch is gonna fix it
turbid verge
https://wccftech.com/amd-grabs-over-30-percent-market-share-with-epyc-cpus-intel...
tfw most of their sales are enterprise and not commercial
plus most of those CPU are going to render farms, servers etc
molten flame
prime jasper
its good
molten flame
prime jasper
for some reason arc is hard to get here and intel didnt give reviewer samples either
pale quartz
stock of arc is low because they're not supplying it in tens of millions, it's single digits, and they didn't give reviewer samples because the drivers didn't work for months
quick locust
for some reason arc is hard to get here and intel didnt give reviewer samples ei...
Decent amount here, guess its per country
prime jasper
only asrock and intel's own too and both out of stock
yeah seems like proshop has 14 on stock
prime jasper
i always forgot proshop
quick locust
They're alright they
They have lower price for arc than komplett rn
21 acer A770 in stock
So 47 in Komplett
prime jasper
yeah i use finnish store datatronic usually they have free shipping and good price
quick locust
Pretty much never free shipping here unless high amount purchase
Some A770 prebuilts too
prime jasper
we have 2 pc stores that have free shipping 
quick locust
Time to move to finland
Theres also some asrock A770s in stock but
Theyre the 8GB ones
flint brook
Would like to see system requirements show 1440p
molten coral
cheap
white elk
https://twitter.com/KOUBOU_nipponba/status/1624060632684453889?t=B0U7iDgSIXvpAmC...
Where is this at
ドンキー？
Ah sorry for the ping, it’s at Osaka. I’m a little bit too far
dry pike
prime jasper
how does this work
prime jasper
I thought the IMC is limited to 128gb
pale quartz
I thought the IMC is limited to 128gb
IMC was never limited
agile lily
Would anyone know why the servers are lagging for me? My movement is slow and when i shoot my gun shoots slow asf too..?
dense urchin
do you get warning symbols appearing on your screen ? Might be packet loss your experiencing
prime jasper
thinking im going for this
prime jasper
Im not gonna buy 7000x3D until it drops in price
The euro price wont be 450€
Its over 500
That is 7800x3D
Also i would need to buy motherboard with 5800x3D so not an option
dry pike
x3Ds are great, if you ignore price to performance ratios 😄
storm osprey
just wait till they drop in price, my friend got one for about 300
prime jasper
Also im not buying until next month, i will look the 3D but doubt it will change my mind on spending over 500 to cpu
prime jasper
just wait till they drop in price, my friend got one for about 300
Im not buying new mobo for dead platform
I'll go am5
It gives me upgrade headroom
storm osprey
i upgrade cpu every like.. 5 years, so ill just buy whatever fills my needs and is the best price to performance, dead platform or not
like my 4790k, that was last gen when i got it, kept it till i got my 10700k xD
prime jasper
I don't think cpu's really are relevant for 5 years anymore
storm osprey
just depends really
outside of esports/high fps gaming a cpu can still last a long ass time
granted for sp games 60 fps is still good enough for me
prime jasper
2042 kinda shows what the future will be
How it puts couple year old cpu on its knees
AM5 and 7700 seems safest choice for the price
storm osprey
10700k is a couple of years old and last i played i got some 120+ fps
prime jasper
8 core 16 threads
storm osprey
still a couple of years old?
not only that but citing 2042 as a sign of anything is a bit misguided
prime jasper
New battlefield has always been more cpu heavy than the previous
storm osprey
generally yea.. like any game?
prime jasper
Bf1 hardly ran stutter free with ryzen first gen
Bfv were more demanding once again
storm osprey
yea im not sure whats the special case here.. most sequels to titles are more demanding than the last..
prime jasper
So am5 is safer for future than getting 5800x3d
It's only good option really if you have b550/x570
storm osprey
afaik perf difference between the two ATM is like.. 3%, and its suggested the "3d" part of the 5800x3d is more "future proof"
prime jasper
Then you have to upgrade platform anyway tho
storm osprey
eh, i just hope you upgrade within 3 years if youre going for the upgrade path
most people dont, but still spend the extra to have the option
prime jasper
Why not do it now and get one of the am5 3D when you need upgrade again
prime jasper
When the Battlefield 7 comes with 512 players and my 7700 is crying for mercy
7700 and 5800x3d is same price here
There's no price difference
storm osprey
roughly the same here, motherboard and ram isnt the same.. you know.. the other parts that are different to the build..
prime jasper
It'll cost more eventually when you have to buy the new platform anyway
storm osprey
which for the 3rd time is a matter of if the individual ACTUALLY upgrades within a timeframe to take advantage, which i said before already, MOST people dont
just making a quick list of the 2 builds, the 5800x3d build is about 250 bucks cheaper
thats a huge gpu upgrade...
now youre getting more FPS than a 7700x build with the same budget
prime jasper
Fps difference isn't that big and both will be maxing 3070
storm osprey
i dont think you understood what i just said..
storm osprey
... 250 will go a long ways towards a gpu.. what
thats the difference between a 3060 and a 3070ti...
prime jasper
7900xtx is 1500€
storm osprey
storm osprey
7900xtx is 1500€
cool?
i think that comment just further proves youre not following what im saying
prime jasper
No i just dont understand why you even bring up what some guy would do when the discussion was about me upgrading my platform
storm osprey
ironically enough you brought it up.. i originally brought up the 5800x3d to say they are the roughly the same perf so wait for 7000 series x3d
prime jasper
Everything i said was from my perspective and what makes sense for me
storm osprey
i honestly dont believe youre understanding..
prime jasper
You brought up 5800x3D tho
storm osprey
i literally just clarified that scenario and you still dont get it..
prime jasper
Not me
storm osprey
100% you..
"i originally brought up the 5800x3d to say they are the roughly the same perf so wait for 7000 series x3d"
read this.. slowly...
prime jasper
I said no
storm osprey
i didnt recommend you to buy it, you brought up actually buying into it
then said you do it for upgrading because cpus wont last 5 years anymore, and i suggested otherwise
none of that is me telling you to buy a 5800x3d...
prime jasper
Some could think it was suggestive
storm osprey
have fun assuming, everything i said is there by the definition of their words and thats what i meant
i mean.. i DID clarify three times now what those words meant...
ill clarify again just in case
"wait for 7000 series x3d""
prime jasper
And i said i will see the launch anyways but wont change my mind on spending over 500 for cpu
storm osprey
nocturne drift
I am waiting for the zen4D release to buy 13th gen intel.
I can either do 2x16 single rank a die going 7600+ or 2x32 dual rank a doe going 7000+ hopefully
cursive marten
https://twitter.com/MovingToTheSun/status/1625156575202537474?s=20&t=YD7ESoE55CW7wU9rRNjwsg
https://twitter.com/beyonddigiskies/status/1625272928341463041#m
https://twitter.com/vladquant/status/1624996869654056960?s=20&t=B3u-AGxIT5o4m8cRavB-Xg
Microsoft added an AI powered chatbot to Bing.
This shit is absolutely fucking insane and I hate it.
like i have an intense hatred for this.
prime jasper
wonder how many terabytes it has left in its lifespan
nocturne drift
prime jasper
Epic embed
sterile lichen
Where's the support channel?
Anyone figured out how to fix bf2042 running normal then going slow motion (fps drop) out of no where then back to normal?
candid flame
ask in the 2042 channel, this is the nerd channel
I also have that problem, don't know how to fix it
prime jasper
Where's the support channel?
!!support
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prime jasper
expected 850€ tbh
prime jasper
i'll probably actually buy the 7600 for 260€
in two weeks or so
local pc store is having monthly sales that change first day of the month so i will check those too
brave path
Which is better Alienware m16 or Acer predator Helios 16
Those are the laptop this year I’m planning to buy
But predator Helios 16 info said it will be available to buy in next few month in my region
So idk how many month in next few month just to be sure when it there
candid flame
Alienware
prime jasper
https://www.gskill.com/product/165/390/1661410135/F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR-Overview is this good for ryzen 7000
toxic wigeon
Cl30 6000 MHZ very much so.
prime jasper
Yeah thought the latency gotta be low cl30 6000 seems sweet spot
molten flame
better hope IMC and motherboard achieve it
prime jasper
yeah im looking into that also
searching for the best b650 mobo
then hope the cpu is good one
molten flame
prime jasper
watched that earlier
molten flame
prime jasper
that's why some reviews has ryzen so much lower than intel because they ran the test with CL40 6000Mhz
molten flame
molten flame
from 7600 to 9600X3D
prime jasper
intel will change the socket probably soon again so dont want to go 13th gen
molten flame
14th gen already confirmed by a leak that it uses a new LGA1851 socket
sullen glen
BF2042 server is down for anybody else? All multiplayer servers seem to be down since yesterday
prime jasper
I can confirm they are not down since im currently playing
turbid verge
wonder how many terabytes it has left in its lifespan
not bad, thats alot of memory written 
but I mean samsung is one of the best storage chip maker in the world
molten flame
not in the case of the 980 NVMe
turbid verge
doesnt matter
Samsung is the one that R&D's, QA's and produces it for them and sell it to others lol
same with screens and ram
yet they're the best on the market
molten flame
their RAM is subpar tbh
turbid verge
yeh tell that to the major companies who buy them ram for the last 15 years or so
molten flame
they make bad DDR4 and worse DDR5
turbid verge
yet every major or top tier component maker uses samsung RAM modules lmao
molten flame
yes because supply
turbid verge
literally Apple still uses samsung RAM modules
in literally every product they make
also the screens and storage
and samsung used to make the bionic chip for them
pale quartz
their RAM is subpar tbh
?
they were one of the first to make a working DDR5 module, well ahead of the closest competitor micron to the market, I'm not sure where this claim came from
pale quartz
their DDR4 modules were the highest performing parts for literally 3 years
molten flame
ran terribly hot tho
pale quartz
micron didn't even compete until rev-e came out
so what?
it's DRAM, it's designed to?
flash cells run slower when it is colder, this is not the hindrance that you're thinking
turbid verge
Then u wonder
Oh yeh
Samsung has 0 competition because no one bothers or can produce stuff like they do but they have capability and facilities for it
turbid verge
There are companies on par if not near of stuff samsung makes
pale quartz
Samsung didn't make their own technology, they were acquisitions made years ago
pale quartz
infact what Samsung have "made" themselves is the exception not the norm
the biggest being exynos, memory isn't one of them
turbid verge
But I mean samsung or any other company jnvests the money in R&D etc
pale quartz
it's still someone else's IP
they didn't invent the technology
they simply bought it
turbid verge
Not saying that
Thing is the fact they have their controlled chain means money means they invest back to improve it
pale quartz
it isn't their chain either
as I said, Samsung got as big as they are today through M&A
what they've given funding is for technology that already existed, it's incremental iteration
prime jasper
what are the best 2TB NVMe SSD's atm
pale quartz
anything that has at minimum has a phison E18 controller
if it has anything inferior it's not worth it
nvmes will deviate per synthetic test, so theres no one pure winner
molten flame
2230 size basic green PCB NVMe without cache
prime jasper
what if its blue
turbid verge
What if its red or black 
toxic wigeon
White.
molten flame
transparent
prime jasper
What if its green or yellow
nocturne drift
Samsung is the best for a while ddr4 and ddr5 they recently slipped up and got caught up.
Can't change history
Hynix rn is Wilding tho
But Samsung bdie is the best ddr4. Not even close.
The micron rev e I got can't even go over 3400
And Samsung c die is one of the coolest to run and most mainstream ddr4 in the market. Not the best performer but u see it everywhere.
primal pier
What if hear me out if it’s charred
thorn sleet
I am upgrading my PC tomorrow and I am excited AF
storm osprey
hell yea
tired notch
how to fix high CPU usage on PC
u gonna have to be more specfic lol
check ur task manager whats hogging ur cpu cycles
lost cargo
50% if i tab away but 99% when i play the game
shell frost
I am small brained about PC's does my X570 Motherboard require a BIOS update to receive a Ryzen 7 5800x if I bought the Motherboard in 2020?
toxic wigeon
@shell frost X500 motherboards support 5000 series right out of the gate.
shell frost
hell ye thx
toxic wigeon
Super helpful aye.
shell frost
Super helpful aye.
another question, 5800x doesn't come with a fan, will the fan that came with my previous CPU (Ryzen 5 3600) work to keep it cool?
toxic wigeon
another question, 5800x doesn't come with a fan, will the fan that came with my ...
No. R7's and up you'll need a dedicated cooler.
Ak400 will do you well. It's cheap and it does its job for that purpose.
shell frost
No. R7's and up you'll need a dedicated cooler.
Ak400 will do you well. It's ch...
gotcha thanks!
toxic wigeon
No worries! It generally helps to have a cooler anyways.
pale quartz
I am small brained about PC's does my X570 Motherboard require a BIOS update to ...
the answer to this is yes you will need to update the BIOS, support only exists for non-X3D parts on RZ5K
latest AGESA includes fixes for stuttering on TPM, so it's mandatory to install
shell frost
the answer to this is **yes** you will need to update the BIOS, support only exi...
I have an X570 Phantom Gaming 4 by ASRock, does that mean I get the BIOS file from ASRock's website?
pale quartz
yes all BIOS updates are on the manufacturers website for the model
shell frost
gotcha thanks!
pale quartz
np
oak ibex
Are GeForce Experience's optimizations typically reliable?
candid flame
nope
oak ibex
great
nocturne drift
Trash
small zinc
Yep, think im gonna get the 7950x3d
And pretty much shit all over the 13900k
Now granted, why would anyone care about 1080p benchmarks
But still
prime jasper
local PC store is getting some red dragon 6800XT's and they are gonna sell them for 670€
turbid verge
local PC store is getting some red dragon 6800XT's and they are gonna sell them ...
I like their neutral design
prime jasper
they have sapphire pulse 6800 for 640€
22 of them left
also 6700 non XT pulse for 390€
best value card at that price point
that's same price as 3060
small zinc
Which is superior to the 3060
prime jasper
it is
and trading blows with 3060 TI while being cheaper
yet many people wont buy 6700
tired notch
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i think its just ppl are still hesistant of going with AMD GPUs
prime jasper
one guy said he wont buy radeon because it looked cheaper
tired notch
yes while 6700 does trade blows with the 3060 ti while being cheaper its value proposition is not equal, being a 3000 series means it gets access to DLSS which atm is unfortuantly still way superior to FSR.
storm osprey
amd cant go 2 generations without "major" problems
tired notch
FSR and DLSS is comparible in a still frame but when your player starts to move around a scene it gets really blurry
its pretty noticable so i can see why ppl still want DLSS over FSR
prime jasper
no shit dlss uses hardware built into rtx cards