technology

[nocturne drift]

I sub to monitors unboxed

Monitor reviews are great.

Not HUB

https://youtu.be/IstA56IAeVA

Found the video

It's 4 months ago

Already old in tech haha

At least he isn't like jayztwocents still fighting in Twitter couple days ago about recommending people to BUY NOW when 3090ti was 2000usd

[midnight crypt]

what in the world

who in their right mind would buy a 3090ti now

for that price

[nocturne drift]

It was when 3090ti launched

Jayztwocents made a video called. BUY NOW

A month / couple weeks later of that video, the gpu prices started free fall.

[prime jasper]

where i can buy clip for headphone cable so it can be hold into my shirt

what is the name of that thing

headphone cable clip?

xD

akg did not deliver one in the box unlucky

[small zinc]

Yes, very much GN. You may choose to not believe that, but even he too exaggerates data and news.

I personally only have ever trusted Tom's Hardware as every single journalist on that site has at a minimum a master's degree, and while that may not mean much, their testing methodologies far exceed any of these other content creators.

Remember. At the end of the day. GN, Jayz, HU, etc. all either get paid by ads, or get to continue to receive hardware for free for "testing". They can't actually piss off Nvidia, AMD, Intel etc.

[midnight crypt]

a few of them buy the hardware outright

[nocturne drift]

I mean no one is perfect. But GN has integrity at least

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000x3d-series-to-launch-on-valentines-day

Valentine's gift

[small zinc]

Went to the drug store a bit ago to get some surgical dressing and tape. Had surgery this past Thursday to remove 10" of my lower intestines, and instead of stitches, they basically superglued all my incisions with this derma glue. Well, that seems to be leaking a little bit, so performed my own triage just now.

lol

[midnight crypt]

i feel like that's not a good idea

[small zinc]

Eh, I just don't feel like driving anywhere right now.

lol

[molten flame]

7800X3D $499

[prime jasper]

i wanna see benchmarks

so the price gets meaning

[prime jasper]

https://ifi-audio.com/products/uno/ ordered this yesterday

[storm osprey]

looks like the zen amp/dac

oh duh.. same brand

[small zinc]

Well whenever my PC gets here, I’ll likely swap out my 7900x for a 7800x3d

[prime jasper]

nice

took the tidal free trial

[fallen harbor]

ello guise

i need to buy a psu for a computer that has an i7 3770 and a gtx750ti and i need to buy one that is decent but not super expensive and the market where i live is limited so

the ones that i am finding are:
-sentey SDP 550w
-aerocool cylon 500w
-deepcool DA 500w
-gigabyte GP-p450B 450w

which of these do you think is best?

their prices are very similar. The only one that is considerably a bit cheaper is the deepcool one

[storm osprey]

probably the gigabyte, though "best" of this list is probably still not good

[fallen harbor]

what is the cheapest decent that you would recommend?

[storm osprey]

idk your regions prices

[fallen harbor]

just say the model

one or two

dw about that

[pale quartz]

none of those are worth whatever price they're marketed at, just get one from a mass distributor

[small zinc]

If you can stretch your budget to $$110 I’d highly recommend stepping up to the Corsair RM 650x. Currently on sale. Much better efficiency, but more importantly much higher amperage on the 12v rail. You’re just simply not going to get much “quality” out of any 500 watt power supply

Also, Seasonic makes most of Corsairs power supplies with the exception of the lower end CX series which I would avoid.

[fallen harbor]

there are no sales here

but ty

[small zinc]

Don’t cheap out on a power supply. I will never not recommend a Corsair, Seasonic, EVGA (made by Superflower) or Superflower directly if you can find one

Or your PC is asking to be killed

Your PSU is the single most important component in your case. Does not matter what else you have in it.

[teal sundial]

Where's a good place to get a pre built pc

[small zinc]

Lyte PC, Corsair,

[molten flame]

low-end PSUs are bad because their wattage rating doesn't mean anything

[small zinc]

Even Amazon has the Thermaltake Arctic series available

[fallen harbor]

i cant buy on amazon

only on my local market

[molten flame]

I've seen cheap 450W PSUs that couldn't handle a 200W load lol

[small zinc]

Not entirely accurate. It’s not the wattage, but more importantly how many amps are on the 12v rail. Most lower end PSU’s aren’t pushing much past 8-10 amps and a single rail.

That’s why they’re not hitting their thermal loads

[small zinc]

Was responding to BobbyBobby for his prebuilt recommendations

You’re not going to get any better efficiency than 80+ bronze rating anyway out of a 500w PSU, so I agree with that. Not that his components are even gonna draw half that, so we’re taking maybe a differential of around 4% efficiency in power draw.

[molten flame]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmMaGinXkAAR6dW.jpg

why aren't GPUs this simple

[toxic wigeon]

I looked at some old images for graphic cards and holy hell they're tiny.

[lofty light]

MTX cards

I've actually got one of those in my old steam machine

[molten flame]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmMaGegXwAAJI79.jpg

Innosilicon

[quick locust]

Meanwhile now

[molten flame]

GPU is the motherboard

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna3-isa-guide-is-now-available-to-help-developers-with-low-level-architecture-optimizations

[prime jasper]

MQA claims that it's better than lossless

https://www.mqa.co.uk/newsroom/faqs/is-mqa-lossless

[pale quartz]

so

technically, they're not wrong

lossless isnt the full music track that's recorded in the studio, and is compressed to a certain bitrate for bandwidth reasons, the master track is infact much bigger, so if you can output the master record it has a substantial difference than lossless

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHkqWZ9jzA0

they claimed to be lossless before

also tidal lossless is not lossless

https://goldensound.audio/2021/11/29/tidal-hifi-is-not-lossless/

this was their logo before

[pale quartz]

so tldr is, it's not incorrect in terms of a "advertising standpoint", the terms are used in reference to bandwidth rates rather than what people think about the word "lossless", what it is though is deceptively misleading

to the point of being maliciously deceptive, the MQA format itself was designed around trying to deceive people aswell

[prime jasper]

time to see if amazon music hd is available here

[pale quartz]

I'm not really sure? how people would fall for this type of thing anyways to be honest

[prime jasper]

Weren't Spotify going to go HiFi at one point

I hope it will come at one point so I won't need to buy into MQA

spotify did announce hifi in 2021 but then delayed it and nothing about it after that

might come might not

im currently trying amazon music unlimited

hd tracks quality

its 1 month free trial then 9,99€ / month

prime users get discount not sure how much

https://www.soundguys.com/amazon-music-hd-review-29137/

[quick locust]

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1613457184632832000?t=ZjSH1GabVSeyUgdFldR4rw&s=19

VideoCardz.com (@VideoCardz)

A heartbreaking mistake, AMD now says Ryzen 7000X3D is not launching on February 14th
https://t.co/uNEIcaqKIV

Likes

198

Twitter · Jan 12, 2023, 8:45 AM

[molten flame]

[small zinc]

I'm old enough to have ISA slots in computers.

🙂

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNDxKQP1_FQ

its 850€ here

lul

thats 150€ more than the 13900k

[molten flame]

Needs 8GHz DDR5

[serene osprey]

Hello Everyone,

I need some help, I have a new mic Blue Yeti X, everything is working fine but somehow when I open BF2042 my mic is no longer working and my friends can't hear me over discord! Any one know what to do!

When i go back to use my old mic "Logitech G 935 built in mic" they can hear me while playing BF2042.

The Blue Yeti is working fine with other games and they can hear me, but when i play 2042 they can't hear me. if you know anything i can do I'll be grateful. Thanks a lot ^^

[pale quartz]

logitech g hub is mandatory for the yeti x aswell

[small zinc]

Intel 13900 KS that draws another 70 watts, gains 200 mhz, and costs $110 more?

Lel.

Nope.

The 7xxx X3D CPU's are going to mop the floor with Raptor Lake.

320 watts....fuck outta here.

Aren't very many coolers in existence that aren't going to make that thing throttle itself.

What a stupid CPU.

[lunar gulch]

meh I have 1600w PSU and a Z690 DDR4 board so the KS is actually not a bad deal to be at 6Ghz 24/7

[prime jasper]

That's in all core workloads and synthetic stress tests only though

It's still significantly more than a 7900x or 7950x at similar levels of performance I wouldn't deny

but the 12th gen and 13th i9 pull that power too under certain loads already it just isn't really an issue

[nocturne drift]

13900ks is kinda stupid.

Not as stupid as 7900X 3D and 7950X 3D but it's up there.

Prob meant for extreme overclockers only.

[prime jasper]

I wouldn't disagree with that

[nocturne drift]

I mean it's the ram that makes a difference for raptorlake not another 100mhz lol

Will be very interesting between raptorlake with tuned hynix m die/ a die vs Zen4 3D

[prime jasper]

Hynix A die dimms are still pretty costly it seems but it will decrease over time

[nocturne drift]

Yeah.

I think raptorlake will win.

[prime jasper]

I don't know if they are the superior memory IC but I know they at least clock the highest

[nocturne drift]

We will just have to see

Depends. Hynix M die have better subtimings. But wall around high 6000

U would need at least mid to high 7000s on A die to offset that

It's more of can ur mobo handle it?

Tuned 13th gen with hynix M is around 10% faster than tuned zen4 in average and 15-20% faster in 1% lows and 0.1% lows. The race is ddr5 vs 3D cache percentage difference for amd and Z790+ A die performance percentage for Intel.

Would be pretty close I think.

[quick locust]

they hit 8.1 GHz with 13900KS in this stream lul

within an hour ish

[quick locust]

It's a higher bin of the CPU, mostly for OC yes

Like 9900KS

[nocturne drift]

Yeah

[quick locust]

More meant as halo than anything that makes sense in value

[pale quartz]

yeah good luck trying to cool that using any sort of consumer grade cooler at all

and you're definitely not doing LN2, so dont bother

[lunar gulch]

I've got 4x 420x60mm rads that are all copper in the closet and 1x in the machine now cooling a 12900k. I think I'll be ok

consumer stuff is trash, agree

[prime jasper]

If gaming is the use case then cooling won't be a problem

[pale quartz]

why the hell have you got 4 rads

[lunar gulch]

Old Thermaltake X9 Cube build from 2015 I tore down that had 4x TitanX

the rads are pristine though so I kept them

[pale quartz]

er even with a 420mm rad you're going to have issues with that heat output

[lunar gulch]

yea, these are hot

[pale quartz]

nothing that exists minus something like a prosiphon can come close to cooling 300 watts of exhaust

[nocturne drift]

A pc we built can cool 13900k pulling 300w

I think it's 2 360mm rad

5.7ghz all P core.

Stock pulls 280w at 5.5ghz all core.

Gpu is a FE 3080ti

I think the best pc we built is 3 360mm rad. 9 phanteks 30 fans handling a 5.3ghz all p core 12900k at 320w

https://imgur.com/8wBGMh7

[molten flame]

I wanna do Intel build but I wanna buy a new king size bed

7800X3D interesting too

[summer sonnet]

Sleep on the floor the processing power will be crazy

[nocturne drift]

I realize smth, in amd slides 7950X 3D is 24% faster than 13900k in HZD

from 3rd party review 7950X is already 21% faster than 13900k in HZD

🤣

sooo much faster!

U know this product is a meme when they dont show u the direct performance increase from zen4 vs zen4 3D

[cursive marten]

I don't understand.

[nocturne drift]

7950X from 3rd party review is 21% faster than 13900k in HZD. AMD slide shows 7950X 3D is 24% faster than 13900k in HZD.

[cursive marten]

okay?

[nocturne drift]

that performance increase is not appealing

[cursive marten]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's an increase.

[nocturne drift]

true hahaha

[toxic wigeon]

21% increase sounds nice.

[midnight crypt]

thats just one game

which is 100% cherry picked to show off the "big" increase in performance

[toxic wigeon]

Ye it matters more how it spans across multiple games.

[nocturne drift]

whole around 3%

[toxic wigeon]

Personally I'm more concerned about the lows how well it deals with it.

[nocturne drift]

true, I think it will do really good there

also second hand gpu market is f ed :C I cant even find a 2080ti under 400

3080 goes for 550 to 600 unless ur lucky

amd and nvidia done f the pc gaming market

[molten flame]

waiting for 4080Ti to come out at $1400

[quick locust]

3080 is still 1100 usd here

costs more than 7900 xt lol

but noone buys amd so

Exception is TUF which is on sale rn

[prime jasper]

The question I would have is would it be cut down ad102 or prime ad103 and would it matter

[quick locust]

Matters for quantity only I guess

[prime jasper]

Imo amd should had make 7700x3d instead of 7950x3d

[quick locust]

7950x3d with both dies as 3D as halo product would be nice

[molten flame]

7950XT3D

[quick locust]

7950XTX 3D

[pale quartz]

it's actually quite an exceptional product, but it can't be compared to first z4 for technical reasons as you're going to get erratic results

half the z4 parts are entirely covered by cache, the other has one CCD, they'll be a mess with straight comparisons

[nocturne drift]

Exactly

7800X 3D and call it a day

[pale quartz]

the 7950x3d has its uses, importantly for those who are wanting base clocks for whatever reasons

the scheduler switching between both is a smart decision, CPPC already does half the work

[nocturne drift]

Can't wait to see what windows scheduler do

[pale quartz]

it's not built within windows, CPPC is handled by the driver

the ADL scheduler is used by Windows but ryzens is not

[nocturne drift]

I guess CPPC gonna default to CCD0 with V cache and in muti threaded work load the higher boost clock of CCD1 will help out abit?

Just overall iffy tbh

Just gonna wait till i2hard's video and see how it goes.

[cursive marten]

Shut up. Sonic motherboard.

[nocturne drift]

They made a matx one now. Cool

[pale quartz]

essentially yes, one of the big cons with Zen is the dual CCD latency penalty you've got when transitioning on one to another, and it gets worse if both are stacked with cache, this is a rather ingenious solution to split them up

instead of crossing between CCDs execution can be isolated to one and only calls on the other when required

[nocturne drift]

Sounds cool on paper. I'll see how they work this.

In February whenever

[paper breach]

hey, does anyone have any info on why AMD gpu drivers have been updated only for the new 7000 series instead the old 6000 and 5000 series are stopped to November version? I tried to find something on Google but without success

[pale quartz]

incorrect, the latest RDNA2 driver is from December 21st

the latest Radeon is specifically to fix RDNA3 driver issues

they'll converge once it's fixed

the last stable for RDNA2 is 22.11.2

[paper breach]

nope, the latest are released on December 8

but still November version btw

[pale quartz]

21/8th forgot the exact date same point

[gilded tulip]

Hello,english is not my native language, I am sorry for my bad grammar. I have just one question. I bought my pc in 2019 and updated the bios to the fresh version for that time. Since then i never update it again. My pc is working fine i do not have any complains. is it recommended to update the bios, or just leave it as it is?

[pale quartz]

it's nothing to worry about, there's been no changes in the RDNA driver that affects under 3 for the latest

[pale quartz]

yes, there's been a lot of changes since then

[pale quartz]

As discovered by ComputerBase, RX 7900 GPUs consumer less power but only when the framerate is capped. This can be seen in titles such as Doom Eternal at 1440p resolution with RX 7900 XTX seeing a massive 57% efficiency improvement and RX 7900 at 34%. The consumption has decreased by 57W up to 90W for the December driver update.

[small zinc]

Shut up and take my money.

[small zinc]

Want to see if AMD actually has fixed their driver issue drawing another 70 watts

Based on that chart still launch driver, so can only assume that the 7900xtx under load is closer to 280 watts

It is interesting though how capping the frame rate to 144 cuts it by over half.

What a weird bug

Curious though. DOOM Eternal. Interesting choice for that. Wonder if they were using DX12 or Vulkan and if that has any impact on power draw?

[pale quartz]

they use vulkan

DX11/12 has no difference on power draw for RDNA though

[prime jasper]

What would i need to have water cooler pump running with battery pack

[midnight crypt]

huh

[prime jasper]

it would be for cosplay

[molten flame]

[gilded tulip]

English is not my native language, I am sorry for my bad grammar. Just one question about moving a game from one drive to another.
I downloaded bf2042 via steam on my HDD. now i want to move it to another drive (SSD m2). Steam has got an option to move games from one drive to another. My question: if i move the game like this, will i receive the benefits of SSD, or it is better to uninstall from current drive and re download to SSD?

[quick locust]

Yes you'll benefit as the game is now on an SSD

No need to reinstall in majority of cases

[dry pike]

For all noisy people living in noise out there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkZTmcX-hoY&t=1s

[nocturne drift]

its not a bug. that's the gpu hitting the power limit of the card. I am impressed by how much less power it draws when capped at 144fps. its almost as efficient as ada lovelace

not bad at all

unless ur cpu bound or capping fps, 7900xtx will always draw around 350w

what we need to see is what is the performance improvement

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/directstorage-performance-amd-intel-nvidia

[molten flame]

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2gkbMQ2fs

MSI will try to fix this in next week bios updates tho

see the dram timing part for the cause

[small zinc]

Well there was a bug with the launch driver drawing 70 more watts. I’m not sure if that’s been resolved

[nocturne drift]

It has

[nocturne drift]

There is a 13900k for 500

[molten flame]

RX 7900 looking more like finewine because of a rough start

[nocturne drift]

I am tempted to buy lol

[molten flame]

is the KS $200 more?

[nocturne drift]

It's 700

K is 580

Second hand 13900k is 500

[molten flame]

people already selling off their 13900K

[nocturne drift]

13700k 380

[nocturne drift]

They went with 7950X instead for some reason

[molten flame]

[nocturne drift]

Also the amount of people selling zen4

I can get a 7700X for 250

[molten flame]

motherboard more expensive than that

[nocturne drift]

HZD player going amd

[molten flame]

just for 1 single player game

[nocturne drift]

Honestly i need to sort out my internet. I have intermittent packet loss

[molten flame]

could be neighbors sharing the same lines for same ISP

many reasons really

[nocturne drift]

2x16 6400 cl32 trident z is like 100 rn

Yeah a tech came and didn't do jack 🥲

[molten flame]

I remember one time during a thunderstorm, everytime there was lightning strike my ping and packet loss would spike up for like half a second

[prime jasper]

I wonder if it will be more after 3d

Early adopters selling off cause they are buying new chips

[dry pike]

always happens, nothing new really

[oblique tree]

anyone know if DDR5 have a meaningful impact over DDR4 at 4K

[swift bobcat]

hi

i need help with bf3

i cant look left or right and shoot

[oblique tree]

try moving the mouse 😉

[swift bobcat]

its not funny

[oblique tree]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-marvin-but-its-funny-its-funny-funny-gif-25199348

[prime jasper]

Hi

My autistic cat 🐈 just died…. From having hemorrhoids 😋😢

[tardy trout]

LMFAO

[tardy trout]

oof sorry man

[oblique tree]

arh yesn what a technological marvel

[tardy trout]

lol

[molten flame]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/-wFEUvljfMUYgQ0iDzbE-GP9moAmfZ7kQoMysAgDclc/https/media.tenor.com/vTyG0g_paZUAAAPo/water-cooling.mp4

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/diy-ape-motherboards-break-cover

@nocturne drift

Seems kinda sussy

Regular CCD can access cache on the 3D CCD but it won't do that for games

[short pawn]

GOD DAMMIT

Microsoft keeps auto downloading drivers

Even though the Regedit and setting is set to off

And ddu has is set to stop auto updates

[prime jasper]

Lol

They sell it for 90€

[prime jasper]

product code is 100-100000031AWOF

can't find anything about it

is it just the old 3600 or refresh like 1600AF

[pale quartz]

that's because you didnt turn it off lol

[short pawn]

I suffer

[pale quartz]

stop doing what some people on Reddit tell you with editing the registry, it's dangerous and doesn't work, you need to go to advanced system settings and switch off the option there

[short pawn]

Oh yeah no I had that off

[pale quartz]

what driver is it?

[short pawn]

Amd

[midnight crypt]

classic amd moment

[pale quartz]

that's impossible for WUP to install the update unless you already predownloaded it

you need to clear the update cache after you switch it off

[short pawn]

I was trying to go back to a older one then windows would just install the auto install driver

I checked the driver history and it did say it installed the windows default

[midnight crypt]

why do you want older drivers

[pale quartz]

old driver? the latest non-7900xt driver is 21.11.2

[short pawn]

Oh yeah I was going to a october one

[pale quartz]

any particular reason?

[short pawn]

Since the November ones gave me dx errors

[pale quartz]

.., the driver is from December

November releases were not 11.2

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-11-2

[short pawn]

Huh

Ops

[pale quartz]

perfectly normal lol

[ivory creek]

damn im afraid of playing my fav game of all time that ive played since i was a kid cuz the game somtimes pull like 5kfps even ingame, and i dont wanna know how much in menus

since new world roasted 3090s at like 3k fps

but ye ive said this before

rip me

and yes the anticheat block fps limiters

[midnight crypt]

you can limit it through the driver

[ivory creek]

what if my 3090 burns tho

900euros rip

[midnight crypt]

warranty

[nocturne drift]

Undervolt.

Power limit.

Tons of options

[pale quartz]

PL doesn't solve the issue

software ignores driver limits and pulls what it wants

[nocturne drift]

What game does that?

That's insane.

[pale quartz]

new world

well, when the game had the issue

[nocturne drift]

Lol

Welp, undervolt.

Do like 0.85v at 1800 or smth

Ever since evga stopped carrying gpu and we no longer have evga card. We now have almost no rma.

Personally I won't miss evga one bit. (except kingpin cards)

Saved us sooo much hassle.

And it make jayztwocents angry.

Honestly a win win situation.

Except kingpin, huge fan.

And biso biso

[small zinc]

The New World thing has been so over exaggerated.

That happened on a handful of rare and isolated occasions.

That's since been fixed. You can also set custom settings too just in case in Nvidia Control Panel which does NOT ignore software driver limits.

[nocturne drift]

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sw P&cpuId=&gpuId=1209&gpuCount=1&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=graphicsScore&hofMode=true&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

world's fastest 2080ti run in 3Dmark speedway

ayeee

[brave path]

When the 4090 mobile benchmark will reveal

[quick locust]

its but a scratch

[ivory creek]

i read somewhere pretty long ago that some mobile 4090 perform better than 3090 desktop depending on the laptop and its cooling etc

might just have been a rumor tho

[prime jasper]

amd has currently 3 generations of cpu's on stock in here

3600 for 90€, 5600 for 140€ and 7600 for 260€

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kiOLC2Ca_I

[small zinc]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-m2-pro-m2-max-macs

ARM is definitely kind of destroying x86 right now.

That M2 Max is pretty impressive.

[lofty light]

It's a pity windows arm absolutely sucks or I'd get one

[lyric quartz]

What are some gaming keyboards y'all use? I'm Looking to pick something up for my first PC

[toxic wigeon]

I use the Razer Huntsman V2 tenkeyles with the red keys.

It does me extremely well.

The keys feel reactive and it just feels good.

[nocturne drift]

I like cherry mx red and brown

[lyric quartz]

Woah! Just looked it up and there's quite a lot of configuration

[lyric quartz]

Not bad! I might wanna look for something a bit bigger than my current keyboard, an HK GK61

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/W8mlb19w0e0

[prime jasper]

He is probably clueless

[pale quartz]

more nonsense from J2C just another day

[candid flame]

he seems obnoxious tbh

when he publicly berated children on twitter I stopped watching him

[pale quartz]

lol yeah thats the tip of the iceberg

[quick locust]

Still better than MLID

[prime jasper]

watched the frisfix video about the problem, it's literally just speculation

i doubt the new video he is making is going to have any factual information either

i don't even know how it could have because it could been hardware issue on those cards, it doesnt seem wider issue

maybe the cards were old cards from mining farm that ran them 100% for two years and re sold them

cant pre produce the problem if you don't have same hardware that caused it

[nocturne drift]

Some one is selling a Z790 maximus hero for 500

Hmmm

https://youtu.be/jJV2kP0dDe4

13900ks at 6ghz all core.

Let's just say 5.9ghz all core.

That's not too bad.

The 13900kf I tested walled at 5.7ghz drawing well over 300w in r23

[prime jasper]

guess its ok for overclockers

other than that, no point

[quick locust]

I mean yeah its the highest bin sku they can get from the die, mostly oc and squeezing all you can out of it

Not really mainstream use

Also why there's only ks skus of the full die

[quick locust]

rip my intel gpu in this

[prime jasper]

that is some beefy requirements tho

1440p 30fps

3070

[quick locust]

ya lol

higher than 2077 requirements

[pale quartz]

pretty average requirements

[quick locust]

Not really for recommended

CPU sure, same as a lot of others now

[pale quartz]

people really expecting this game to run on some 2060?

lol, they need to watch the trailer perhaps

[quick locust]

more like they didnt expect 3070 and 6700xt to get 30 fps

also ps5 dips to 720p

[pale quartz]

i dont see the issue, it was built from the ground up to utilise the latest hardware

ps5 and that combo now are not high tier

[quick locust]

also 6800xt and 4080 is next to each other for some reason

wonder how well my A770 does in it or if I need a 4090 to get 1440p 60

lol

[pale quartz]

youll be lucky to get to the boot screen

[quick locust]

i guess people need 3080 and above for this

though, A770 should be right below 3070 ish in these modern dx12 titles

just uhh rip my poor 600p ssd with directstorage

Hogwarts should be easier to run

[midnight crypt]

the trailers and gameplay look way different

demo looked pretty last gen tbh

[errant cypress]

The reveal trailer was awesome

demo was muddy, boring

But combat looked to have potential if you dedicate enough time

[molten flame]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrFrederickChen/status/1599326143190269953

Fred Chen (@DrFrederickChen)

Intel 18A will not have lower minimum metal pitch than Intel 4.

This paper describes the direct print Extreme Ultra Violet (EUV) technology used for lithographic patterning of 30-36 nm pitch metal layers of Intel 18A technology node. https://t.co/U1V78gZs9v

Twitter · Dec 4, 2022, 8:54 AM

[prime jasper]

i can hear the difference with ifi audio uno compared to my pc onboard audio

even thoug my headphones are only 32 ohms

[molten flame]

[prime jasper]

also my front usb port might be crap

[prime jasper]

nvm it was just some settings

[prime jasper]

Me trying to identify the case

To judge if it has no air flow

[cursive marten]

to be fair that is so generic i don't think you could identify a specific model from this

[quick locust]

looks like OG H500 maybe

the top 3090 one

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-expansion-card-could-turn-amd-b650-motherboard-into-x670

MCM chipset design allows expansion

[small zinc]

Those Forspoken requirements are garbage

Clearly typos

That or they already know the game is unoptimized

Hell, they released a patch for the damn demo which means what does that say about the state of the game is in at launch?

How is a 2080 Ti anywhere remotely close to a 6800xt?

What?

a 3080 is on par with a 6800xt

[prime jasper]

it probably runs like crap

not interesting game anyway

not first time square enix game is bad on PC

[midnight crypt]

it doesn't look very good

unless they somehow improved on it massively after the demo

[nocturne drift]

Prob have raytracing

[errant cypress]

Yeah graphics look muddy

Look at Horizon Forbidden West, that's how a next gen game should look like

[quick locust]

It dips to 24 fps and 720p on ps5

[coarse nimbus]

When's that coming to pc?

[errant cypress]

Earliest next year I would say as a complete edition with its dlc

It's an amazing game really, I'm glad 60fps mode was broken at launch so I experienced it in all its glory

[coarse nimbus]

I still have to finish the first games dlc, didn't start it yet

But it's a damn nice looking game

[errant cypress]

It's a good dlc with great scenery like northern lights

[coarse nimbus]

Plus you finally get a spear upgrade slot

[errant cypress]

Forbidden West will be even better, like so much better than it already was

[errant cypress]

well spears are not very useful, unless you fight small machines

[coarse nimbus]

I've just seen Hogwarts legacy is calling for 32gb of ram

[coarse nimbus]

Well getting loot rolls that includes the spear upgrades when I couldn't even use them was funny

[errant cypress]

Only game I would say 32gb is justifiable is star citizen

[coarse nimbus]

They're also calling for a 10700k (I think that's 1440/4k though) will I have to force my 8600k into early retirement?

[solar kestrel]

ok so im trying to figure out if im right or not, there is a game i play (tarkov) that uses 95% of my ram but only 50% of my cpu and like 40% of my gpu

my specs arnt the best but in theory is my ram bottlenecking my cpu and gpu

since its almost maxed but they are only like 50% usage

[dense urchin]

tarkov isn’t the best optimised game out there it’s like that for me to sometimes

[cursive marten]

The SH2 remake is gonna require a 2080 for 60 FPS medium settings at 1080p

[grizzled apex]

Does anyone play 2042 on their laptop?

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ejlt-7-h9o

Might be because of miners for RX 6800/6900 cards dying

[prime jasper]

Told you

[small zinc]

https://youtu.be/Xn1EsFe7snQ

“Inexpensive GPU’s”

-Jensen Huang, 2011 Stanford University

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain. Oh how he lost complete sight of his vision.

Must be when he got his leather jacket

[prime jasper]

13500 added

its bit power hungry tho

[toxic wigeon]

Looking through ITX cases makes me want to make another pc.

They look so snuggly.

[prime jasper]

There was a cool itx case that was to release last quarter but it got delayed

the dan c4 sfx

Basically a succesor to the Ncase M1

It's cool though, I would choose it or a SUPD meshlicious

[molten flame]

Cable management is torture in ITX builds

[toxic wigeon]

https://youtu.be/BZEfTVrhHs4

[summer sonnet]

It's so cute

[toxic wigeon]

It's just so weird.

This giant series s sized brick to this tiny ass rectangle.

[grizzled apex]

Also a bit of a heads up from anyone who plays on a Lenovo laptop

It seems the older bios on the legion laptops can sometimes cause your laptop to blue screen

Updating to the most recent bios looks to fix this.

[dry pike]

In general, if you have BSODs and or instability updating the BIOS might always be a possible solution

[candid flame]

meanwhile stealth bios update came through windows update and removed undervolting on 10th gen i7

intel sucks

[arctic arrow]

I have been looking at upgrading my gpu from a gtx 1060 6gb to a 3060 ti or a 3070 ti and my cpu is 9700k and play on a 2560x1080 ultrawide

[toxic wigeon]

https://youtu.be/HScdoVGCtkg

The power consumption hasn't even changed much.

[molten flame]

CPUs back then were bad with idle consumption

[quick locust]

https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidia-rtx-4070-ti-seems-to-be-outselling-both-amd-rdna-3-gpus

[quick locust]

Rtx 3050 still outsells 6650xt

[toxic wigeon]

Wrong server.

[wind field]

I can cook eggs on my PC when i run Battlefield i mean fps is stable (120fps capped) but the heat is unreal 🔥 . Can anyone relate?

[toxic wigeon]

Any reason for a program to close but not crash without reason.

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah that's normal.

[molten flame]

ngl i don't want a GPU named 6650XT

[candid flame]

more like it crashed without telling you the reason lol

program's problem maybe

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah though the guy is gone.

So it doesn't matter.

[meager glen]

dose somone mind helping me with battlefield settings

[wind field]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[wind field]

[prime jasper]

o

is the temperature an issue for the cpu or gpu

[wind field]

well

tbh

both xd

[prime jasper]

when did you get your pc, or the cpu

is it a prebuilt pc

[wind field]

like 4-5 years ago

[prime jasper]

have you ever applied new thermal paste

[wind field]

yep

but

for this game

idk

[prime jasper]

is it just a heating issue for BF?

[wind field]

it just turns into a toaster

yeah only BF

2042

[prime jasper]

that tells me only a few things, so

have you updated your drivers

[wind field]

yes

[prime jasper]

are you using the current drivers

as in did you update the drivers, then play

[wind field]

well "Nvdia Ge force Expirience"

i guess

it updates

[prime jasper]

did the game ever have this heating issue before you updated the driver, do you know

is it a new issue

[wind field]

no its been like that ever since i bought BF

all other games ar working just fine with low temps

[prime jasper]

because a few of the fixes I can think of off the top of my head is one of three things,

1. a Driver update messed with your pc's ability to process information
2. There is not enough airflow, or no contact to a heatsink, or thermal paste is not enough between the chip and heatsink
3. Too much dust has accumulated around and inside the GPU/CPU heatsinks and its causing some heat issues

you mentioned only BF has a heat issue, so it eliminates #2

Have you allocated all the files on steam, or origin/EA App

[wind field]

I keep it clean tho

[wind field]

Steam

[prime jasper]

make sure the game has all its files, sometimes it can play smoothly but over time downloading or launching the game might cause some files to break. you can verify your files in the games properties

[wind field]

ok thanks

[prime jasper]

It might not be the fix, but maybe you could be missing some crucial data the game needs

I used to have an issue with battlefront II FPS and it turned out that even though I could play it, it was missing maybe 300 files and it caused some severe framerate issues

[wind field]

[prime jasper]

even updates for the game can break files sometimes, so its worth it to try to validate them sometimes

[toxic wigeon]

Your 3060 graphically wise will be much better.

[toxic wigeon]

How hot does your hardware run?

[wind field]

bro

dont know exactly how much but its a lot

[quick locust]

use hwinfo64

[wind field]

i feel it with my hand

xd

[quick locust]

useless

[wind field]

ok

[toxic wigeon]

MSI Afterburner can be used or as tak mentioned, Hwinfo64.

[wind field]

ok i have afterburner

[quick locust]

yep

turn on own statistics in RTSS

also, search and run dxdiag then save all information and post it

[wind field]

ok thanks i will do it when i get home

[lofty vigil]

Is windows 11 still stanky? or not so bad now

[candid flame]

wins 11 is great

[quick locust]

It's decent yeah

[left yew]

Decided to reinstall the game after some time, apparently there is now this EA play thing instead of origin, i bought my game on steam, every time i press to play, some kind of "Link2EA" app shows up, restarts EA play and doesn't start the game at all, tried most troubleshooting reccomendations like restarting computer, reinstalling EA play/bf5 and disabling firewall but it keeps not launching and EA play keeps restarting... any advice?

Battlefield 1 starts fine for some reason

[quick locust]

EA play is the replacement to origin

Or EA desktop

[left yew]

And also for some reason Battlefield 1 doesn't require it to start from steam, just Battlefield 5

So i suppose the problem is on the app itself and not in the game / my computer

[left yew]

Disabling "Open with administrator privileges" helped for some goddam reason... it actually opened now

I was about to try to refund the game since i wasn't even able to play

[dry pike]

Lets just get the terminology correct here 😄

The client / application: Origin was replaced with EA app, the current client application (formerly known as EA Desktop and some other things).

**EA Play **(was an event, last one was 2021) and is now a subscription service with 2 tiers:
EA Play (the basic tier, has most of the back catalogue)
EA Play Pro (all the current games as well and some perks)

[quick locust]

Thanks EA

[dry pike]

I don't work for EA, I just call things by their names

[quick locust]

I mean for their naming scheme

[dry pike]

There is no schemes, just organized chaos

😄

[quick locust]

😛

[prime jasper]

I found out I was using a version of rtss that wasn't compatible with my rdna3 gpu for two months

and thats why bf2042 was crashing

[wind field]

https://prnt.sc/A6M00kMPw1hL

there

this is in loading screen

[quick locust]

both are fine, which cpu cooler do you use

[wind field]

stock

currently in tdm

https://prnt.sc/5aR6j69iMR_X

[quick locust]

seems fine then for stock

for both cpu and gpu

[wind field]

this is normal?

[quick locust]

yes

[wind field]

u sure?

[quick locust]

stock coolers arent great but they do alright

yes

[wind field]

okey then

tnq

anybody wants some eggs i can cook them

[wind field]

if i upgrade the cooler it should run on a bit lower temps right?

[quick locust]

yes

[wind field]

can you recommend something?

[quick locust]

there's no damage or anything to your current temps, but you can get another one for lower noise and temps

[wind field]

ye ye on all other games that i play its totaly fine bro

[prime jasper]

https://www.techspot.com/news/97368-noctua-launches-low-profile-coolers-amd-new-ryzen.html

[toxic wigeon]

Holy the Pentium D was bad.

[molten flame]

Thermalright makes low profile coolers that are much cheaper and better

Also ones colored black only cost like $1-3 more than a regular one whereas Noctua charges $20-30 extra for a black cooler

[prime jasper]

Can't really tell how good is it before it's reviewed

[molten flame]

It's a cooler that's existed for a while it just supports AM5 out-of-box

[kind cedar]

https://prnt.sc/LZn1p8SX09kx
how if i installed the latest.....

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/iYm6PcC6akQ @prisma anvil

[prime jasper]

That's in gear 2 aswell

[small zinc]

So I just bought the SK Hynix P41 M.2 drive. After doing tons of research, the E18 Phison controller isn't the only controller to support Direct Storage API.

Not to mention it's pretty much still the top Gen 4 drive on the market only to be edged out barely by the new Samsung 990 Pro. Which even in synthetic benchmarks barely edges it out. Real world applications is completely and 100% unnoticeable and costs $100 less than the Samsung. Kind of a no brainer.

Also not paying $300 for the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus G drive too which is completely misleading regarding its firmware optimizations geared specifically for Direct Storage API.

Uses the same controller as the "regular" Sabrent Rocket 4 drive and can be flashed with that same firmware for over $120 less. What a scam that shit is.

And still gets clobbered by both the SK Hynix drive and Samsung

I know Forspoken is the only game to currently take advantage of the API, but man, it is pretty impressive to say nonetheless

[mild bough]

What do y'all think about the BenQ Zowie XL2546K? Unsure whether to buy it or not

[prime jasper]

it's esports monitor, if you are competitive gamer, sure but there are other options if you just looking for high referesh rate

firstly, can your pc run the games past 200fps?

if not you are wasting money buying 240Hz

i reckon it's not the newest model so if its on some crazy sale might be worth it

also keep in mind it's not as good for anything else than high fps gaming as it TN panel

[mild bough]

i play a shit ton of csgo tbh

just curious whether its a good buy or not

[prime jasper]

well there are 360Hz monitors out now if you just look monitor for CS GO

with some not as expensive as the zowie

and you didnt tell if your pc can run games at those framerates so can't really tell if its good buy for you

in general esport monitors are not good buy for regular consumer

[mild bough]

whys that just curious?

[pale quartz]

because they are marketing scams

[prime jasper]

should i buy a 6950xt for 750 or a 7900xtx for 1050

[pale quartz]

xtx

[prime jasper]

You think it’s worth the extra 300$

Fuck man

[pale quartz]

definitely, is barely a comparison

[prime jasper]

I’m really gritting my teeth

Tryna decide

[pale quartz]

50% uplift and AV1 encoding

80%+ in RT

[prime jasper]

What ab a used 4080 for 1100

The 7900xtx is new

[pale quartz]

4080 is fine? I suppose, wouldn't buy it personally but nothing wrong it

[prime jasper]

But it’s not a better buy?

[pale quartz]

eh depends what you're after

regular gamers not really

[prime jasper]

Are you referring to RT

[pale quartz]

CUDA, or Nvidia exclusive features

if you've got no interest in them then there's not much point to buying it

[prime jasper]

Pure 4k gaming

What’s the better experience

[pale quartz]

depends on the game, they lose, beat and match each other depending on the title

[mild bough]

okay i see

[gritty bane]

While in a group with my friend we can hear each others audio in both party and squad chat. However, my stream is unable to pick up his mic audio, it is perfectly silent. But, on his stream you can hear both of us.

Additional information:

He is streaming from twitch studios on his PC and I am streaming from the Twitch app on my PS5. We have streamed other cross-platform games in the past together and haven’t had this problem. Is there anything we can do to fix this?

[small zinc]

I would never pay over $700-$800 tops for a 4080. That's how much that GPU is really worth.

And the 7900xtx outperforms a 4080. And you're getting it for cheaper.

[prime jasper]

I bought a 4090 for 1580 lol

[small zinc]

Even better.

[prime jasper]

Best value

[small zinc]

That's a good price.

Although I will say that 4090's are much more widely available now

Scammers are fucked.

I downloaded an app called "Hot Stock". Not sure about where you live, but I was getting 100+ alerts daily for 4090's which means they're flooding the market now that 30 series are mostly gone.

Ebay scalpers are purely fucked.

[prime jasper]

Idk where u live but where i’m at you can’t buy it at retail

And tax is 200$

In california

Luckily my dads military so i snagged it at the exchange

[small zinc]

Founders Edition?

Navy Excchange? Or Air Force?

[nocturne drift]

That's cool.

I am coaching a lot of table tennis recently and trying to save for a 13900K or KS build.

Then I realize I don't even like gaming much anymore.

lol I might just not do anything.

I have being encountering alot of zen3 blue screening recently.

need to either update bios or static pin the voltage/clock speed

my theory is pbo stock is too aggressive for that specific silicone and crash out at idol

I am too lazy to to positive curve optimizer and -200mhz etc on max boost lol

anyways yeah tryna coach alot of table tennis and save for the new pc build

[prime jasper]

Is a 750w psu good enough for a 4090 and a mid range cpu

[prime jasper]

Ye

[prime jasper]

Navy

[toxic wigeon]

Minimum 1000 watt.

[molten flame]

4090 will be bottlenecked by a mid-range CPU even at 4K with ray-tracing

I don't even think the best CPUs available can fully make use of a 4090

[prime jasper]

Can i please see some sources

Because what i’ve researched says otherwise

[molten flame]

not wasting my time on that

[prime jasper]

But i’ve also seen mixed results

Then your opinion means nothing

[molten flame]

would not recommend anything weaker than a 13700K or 5800X3D with the 4090

wait nvm, 5800X3D bottlenecks 4090 pretty bad in competitive games

[prime jasper]

7600x benchmarks higher than the 5800x3d at 4k

That’s why i chose it over it

And the 13600k has a unnoticeable difference in 4k fps for the 110$ price difference

13600k = 13700k single core performance

[molten flame]

8 performance cores better for the near future

especially for BF2042

2042 loves 8+ cores

[toxic wigeon]

Wait for the 7000x3d processors.

[molten flame]

they will only tie 13th gen

[toxic wigeon]

Ye.

Just thinking.

If the intention is to pair with a 7000 CPU I'd do x3d but even that might not lend much of a difference.

I do wonder how long a dedicated 4k card would last though.

[prime jasper]

If you are buying 4090 i don't thonk money matters that much you need to cheap out on the cpu lol

[molten flame]

tru

it's still selling for $2000+ here

tfw GPU is 3x more expensive than rest of system combined

[prime jasper]

Always pair high end with high end

[molten flame]

GPUs advancing much faster than CPUs

[nocturne drift]

Yeah 4090 is for 1440p 240+hz and 4k high refresh rate only.

Like it's soooo mf fast. Synthetically it's almost 1.8-2x faster than 3090.

Def need a good cpu.

[molten flame]

3080 could have been 2x faster than 2080 if it weren't on a bad samsung node

[nocturne drift]

True. Mine draws mf 480w at 1080p overwatch 2

[prime jasper]

I’m a 17 year old

I have a tight budget for a 4090 build

But i still want to squeeze the most power i can out of it for as cheap as i can

Pure gaming performance

[molten flame]

not happening with AMD CPU

[nocturne drift]

why 4090 build?

[molten flame]

if doing 1440p just get 4080 lol

[nocturne drift]

y not like a second hand 3090 or 6900xtxh 6950xt or even 4080/7900xtx build?

[molten flame]

can't wait for 5090 to come out and it won't even reach 50% utilization because CPUs can't keep up

Blackwell arch is gonna be good

[prime jasper]

I got it really cheap

And my thought process is i can spend bout 16 1700 on a 4080 build

Or drop an extra 400 and get a ton more performance

Plus i’m selling it

4090s are profitable there rare

[nocturne drift]

not really

[prime jasper]

Nobody within 40 miles of me is selling a 4090 build

[nocturne drift]

I can get a 4090 here below msrp in fb marketplace rn

[prime jasper]

There’s one dude but it’s absurdly overpriced

You cant

You have to find someone willing to take a loss

Which is very rare

[nocturne drift]

I just found 2 at msrp and 1 at below msrp

[prime jasper]

For how much

And are they local?

[nocturne drift]

yeah

[prime jasper]

How much tho

[nocturne drift]

1700 for gigabyte and 1786 for msi one

[prime jasper]

I wouldn’t pay more than 1600

[nocturne drift]

I also found a 1500 one for zotac

u said msrp

[prime jasper]

Someone desperate for cash

Willing to take a loss

4090s and full 4090 pcs 2 different things

2 whole different markets

If it doesn’t sell 2500$ and im still making 200$

[nocturne drift]

so u scalping

[prime jasper]

No

Im building a pc

And reselling

Like every other person

Scalping would be buying the 4090 and reselling it for me

[nocturne drift]

w8 why are u building a 4090 pc and reselling?

[prime jasper]

Because it’s profitable

It’s gonna be my own rig until it sells

Then ima build another play on it for a few weeks and repeat it again

[nocturne drift]

😅

that's tough

I cant even sell my 3dmark record holding 10700k+2080ti pc for 1k

I guess PC market is really down

[prime jasper]

I’m in cali

Mfs got money

my 10900k 3080 ti sold for 2k

got 1k into it

That’s where all this motivation is coming from

Plus i pretty much upgraded you feel

If i don’t sell it

[nocturne drift]

lol. good luck man. also 10900k and 3080ti for 1k

[prime jasper]

I got really really lucky

Bought all parts used

Killer deals on every one

Not a realistic scenario at all, but u can still make money

[nocturne drift]

whats the break down?

[prime jasper]

350 for 10900k, mobo, 32gb ram, and 850w psu

All brand new

Bought some extra shit, used h510

Brand new arctic 240 for 50 from someone who didn’t want it

2080 super for 240, which i resold for 300 and bought a 3080 ti for 625

Cheap little ssd

Treated myself to a nvme at retail and that was the only part i bought new

[nocturne drift]

ah I see.

not bad.

[prime jasper]

Yea what saved me was the bundle

I really thought i was gonna get scammed

They were used, but for 2 months

No dust in brand new condition

[nocturne drift]

yeah now I see the breakdown it makes sense.

esp if u do it around sep to early nov last year

totally possible

I do these kind of stuff as well but I charge 0 dollars and pass the saving to my friends haha

did 12 builds in 2022, 10 friends + 1 online friend. this year I think I am stopping and saving up for a build for me.

not worth it i think if I drive to places + time and energy etc.

plus I am out of friends who wants a pc

[prime jasper]

I don’t overcharge like a bitch

I’m really just looking for an extra 400$ than what i paid for, and i get my parts under msrp so it’s really not any more expensive than buying yourself

I just know where to find deals instead of adding a bunch of parts on pcpartpicker and clicking purchase

People in my area? They want 1600 for a 2060 build

5% of them have fair prices

Sadly i have no friends who are into Pcs

Or any friends in general 🙂

But it’s aight we chilling

I’m not bouta kms

[nocturne drift]

I drove 3 hrs for a 3080 suprim once

my friend's wedding present

[prime jasper]

Your a good ass friend

Was it for the wife or husband

[nocturne drift]

Husband. Lol

Well both of them are my college friends of almost 8 years.

So the wedding registry I brought alot of what the wife wanted LOL

Balance it out.

[prime jasper]

Damn

U just got money like that?

Or u also know how to get it cheap

[nocturne drift]

I know how to get it cheap.

Plus he had a 3070 evga xc3

More of a trade upgrade

[molten flame]

I never see good deals on ebay, always people selling at or above msrp unless it's 2 gen old tech

[nocturne drift]

Yeah the bids do go crazy

[molten flame]

was the kingpin 2080Ti you got a bid?

[nocturne drift]

No.

[molten flame]

wtf

[nocturne drift]

I won nothing in ebay bid.

🥲

Not even an aio

[molten flame]

yeah always someone that goes $5 higher than you at the last minute

[nocturne drift]

Yeah....

[molten flame]

dead 3090 for $450

[prime jasper]

What does non functional mean

[molten flame]

not working

[prime jasper]

I knew that

I tried to think of a sarcastic response

[molten flame]

weird wording ngl

[prime jasper]

That’s the best i could come up with

[nocturne drift]

I think the 2080ti KP is the biggest bs I pulled.

[prime jasper]

How much?

[nocturne drift]

No actually the 3080 evga ftw3 is

[prime jasper]

I fucking love hybrid gpus man

I wish i had the liquid x

[nocturne drift]

This much

[prime jasper]

Y’all were the ones who told me i would need 1000+w for a 4090 right

[prime jasper]

Damn 260 is crazy

[nocturne drift]

1000w is safe.

[prime jasper]

Bro i’ve been looking through reddit, tons of people w 750 850 reporting no problem, and some shit ab nvidia power spike prevention???

[molten flame]

I found a 12900H + 3080Ti laptop for only $500 but the screen was broke

[prime jasper]

Steal lowkey

[nocturne drift]

Nah because let's say u run smth like 13900k drawing 250-300w + 4090 max oc 600w that's almost 900W

[prime jasper]

Hook it up to a tv, hide it u got a dope little minimal setup

[prime jasper]

What ab a 5800x3d

at 100w

Don’t u think i’d be safe at like 750 850

I don’t OC either

[nocturne drift]

Then sure if u undervolt or powerlimit the crap out of the 4090 then yeah 850 should be fine.

Make sure it's a good 850 tho

[prime jasper]

I don’t understand tho

[prime jasper]

300 max tdp vs 100 max tdp

1000-200

850 should be fine

[nocturne drift]

Yeah. I think it's OK.

But make sure it's a good 850w

Like rm850x or evga G5 or higher

[prime jasper]

Okay bc everyone is telling me to buy a 1000w but it’s a 100$ difference

I just need 1 person to tell me not to lmao

[nocturne drift]

Well it's the power spike like u said.

A meh 850w Psu I got second hand straight up broke a 3090

850w evga ga supernova

Can't handle the transients

I stopped cheaping out on Psu after that

[prime jasper]

I don’t cheap out

Like on brands

But there’s a big price jump

[nocturne drift]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Certified-Refurbished/Power-Supplies/RMx-Series™-RM850x-—-850-Watt-80-PLUS-Gold-Fully-Modular-ATX-PSU-(Refurbished)/p/CP-9020200-NA/RF?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_term="keyword"&utm_content=corsair&gclid=CjwKCAiA5sieBhBnEiwAR9oh2vrsJRm25Gr5Sr82PTdV7pds7NEFeF4o1ZF_i_ZgS2pAKqi3xGKvvBoCD6UQAvD_BwE

This is my go to now when people ask me a good 850w Psu newish

4 of my friends and my build has it

[molten flame]

ngl I've had good experience with refurbished tech

[nocturne drift]

I just trust Corsair their rma is incredible and they are a big name.

And PSU they do really well. Jonny Guru works there

[molten flame]

btw fan in my SFX EVGA PSU is dead but doesn't matter because total system draw is ~200w at max when gaming

may not be dead but I've never seen it come on before even during boot

[midnight crypt]

sounds normal

[molten flame]

all fans in a system are supposed to ramp up for a couple seconds when you turn pc on

[midnight crypt]

dont think it has to spin for several seconds on boot

[nocturne drift]

^

[midnight crypt]

but you could simply replace the fan if you're worried i guess

[molten flame]

have a case fan attached to it via double sided foam tape

I've had a new CPU cooler for a month now but haven't installed it because don't want to take apart compact ITX build and rearrange the cables again

[molten flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cECNuXXpvWo

[midnight crypt]

heat moment

[molten flame]

[turbid verge]

ah yes the same guys who only do storage modules for m.2 SSD's, phones, laptops, tables, etc to most if not all top [insert brand here]

[prime jasper]

Good power supply models?

[turbid verge]

literally there's only one I always recommend and nothing else

Seasonic

they're literally the guys who also produce most of the components for other power supply makers

[soft kraken]

How to change name in game

[nocturne drift]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[small zinc]

Would also add Segotep 1250W to at least the B list of not A.

Decent amperage on the 12v rail, dedicated 12pin for 40 series, 80+ Gold certified, decent efficiency

And Segotep made by Colorful.

Decent products

[prime jasper]

12700k for 230 decent? Any better options at that price

[small zinc]

Considering cheapest price on it currently on Amazon is $298 yeah that’s a good price. Even NewEgg still gouging it for over $300

[prime jasper]

Any better cpus for a 4090

[small zinc]

12700k is going to be the better gaming CPU over the i9 12900k. The E cores on Alder Lake are pointless

[prime jasper]

12700k should be fine at 4k

[small zinc]

I mean other than Raptor Lake or Zen 4. Unfortunately there isn’t a CPU in existence that doesn’t bottleneck thr 4090

To some degree

[prime jasper]

Okay

But in majority of games there won’t be a bottleneck

[small zinc]

12700k and a 4090 is going to be perfectly fine at 4K

Less of a bottleneck at higher resolutions

But still there to some extent

The 4090 should never be used for anything less than 3440x1440

[prime jasper]

But if i wanted to play 240hz 1440p

Not an option

?

[small zinc]

I would pick a 12700k over a 12900k any day of the week though to solidify your purchase of that helps

[prime jasper]

I wouldn’t pick a 12900k just wondering if there’s a ryzen or something else u know that usually goes for cheap

Would you say a 12700k is above a 7600x

[small zinc]

Yes

[prime jasper]

@small zinc Aye

12700k on ddr5 or 13600k on ddr4 for a 4090

[nocturne drift]

U ocing?

They just about tie.

No oc 12700k + D5

If oc. It's tricky.

[prime jasper]

Probably not no

Unless i get bored and see a big enough improvement

What would be the better platform

[nocturne drift]

12700k + D5

Just don't get 2x8 D5 or 5200s

[prime jasper]

Do u think a new gen i5 would sell better

Or last gen i7

They have the same amount of cores i think the 12700k has more threads

[prime jasper]

I would get the 13700KF over the 12700k

I know saying that isn't helpful at all because it doesn't take into consideration your budget

but the ddr5 imc on the 13th gen I7 is a lot better

Meaning you can get higher speed ram in future without running into frequency limitations