technology

[toxic wigeon]

At least the price isn't so bad on that.

[north crow]

meanwhile in finland the upsell is completely screwed

1500€ for a 4080, 2400€ for a 4090

and on amd side, depending on which aib you want, you can get an xtx for 50€ more than an xt

[nocturne drift]

Both 4080 and 7900XT should be DoA

[quick locust]

lol

[small zinc]

100% exactly what happened.

[quick locust]

this comes to me tomorrow

soon

[small zinc]

Not necessarily. The gap between the 7900xt and xtx isn't that big. Not like the gap between the 4080 and 4090. AMD will obviously release a higher end GPU. AMD even said themselves the 7900xtx was never meant to be a 4090 competitor. We can safely assume and know that a 7950xt or xtx variants will be coming out likely next year to close the gap between the 4090. Of course Nvidia will have released the 4090 Ti since Galax already let that cat out of the bag

[quick locust]

I know the price gap isn't as big, but the 7900xt is kind of pointless where it is priced right now

[small zinc]

But I do agree, the 7900xt doesn't really have much of a place. It's really the 4070 Ti equivalent, and that thing is definitely dead on arrival.

[quick locust]

4080 12GB 4070 ti

[small zinc]

Nvidia fucked themselves over. They know they did too. They thought they could "scam" us consumers with calling two different variants of the 4080 (12GB and 16GB) the same line of GPU's when in fact they were AD 104, and AD 103 GPU's respectively.

And ain't nobody paying fucking $900 for a XX70 GPU

Ain't nobody paying $1200 for a XX80 GPU for that matter

[quick locust]

lol

[small zinc]

Haha, I remember the 780 and 680 fisasco

They were the same GPU

lmao

Clocked slightly higher

But Nvidia came full circle again too with the 1060

remember the 6gb and 3gb?

Completely different GPU's

[quick locust]

1030 too

ddr4 version is yikes

although AMD has done similiar sometimes

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/HrGh2bRXGkM

[quick locust]

looking at you rx 580 8gb 2048sp

[nocturne drift]

Even tho he is a meme. His number is right.

[small zinc]

Nvidia did this on purpose though

To sell more 4090's

But also purposely limiting supply of the 4090 as well

[nocturne drift]

Warzone 2 is cpu bound and at 1440p both 4080 7900xtx and 4090 perform the same

[small zinc]

Keeps hype through the roof, while keeping stock prices high and shareholders pockets lined. It's by design

We already know there isn't a CPU in existence that doesn't bottleneck the 4090

[nocturne drift]

Although 7900xtx does oc well. 11% gain

[small zinc]

And honestly gaming at 1440p with a 4090 is pretty silly.

1440p should be the absolute bare minimum

[nocturne drift]

Not really if u push 240+ fps

[small zinc]

Which is stupid also

Zero point to anything over 120 hz

literally.

zero.

[nocturne drift]

What!

[small zinc]

The human eye can't see anything beyond 120 hz. And every Call of Duty idiot out there that tries to make that argument, only further look stupid.

[toxic wigeon]

With a 4090 you'll be set on 1440p for a very, very long time.

[quick locust]

Competitive games it matters, single player whatever

[nocturne drift]

If I game at only 120hz in fps I'd be depressed

[toxic wigeon]

You can notice how smooth a game can run higher than 120.

[nocturne drift]

Single players sure

[small zinc]

bRO, 360 hZ iS nEcEsSaRy!

every call of duty wannabe pro out there.

[quick locust]

Human eye isn't uniform, but the middle of vision is far higher

[nocturne drift]

I tested this I can feel a difference up to about low 200 fps

[small zinc]

No you can't.

😛

[nocturne drift]

Wow u know me better than myself. That's crazy

[small zinc]

There isn't an argument anyone here that can change my mind on that though

[quick locust]

Besides the eye is continuous, it's your abillity to process that matter

[small zinc]

And there isn't a difference between 144 hz, and 240hz

The human eye can't process that.

[nocturne drift]

Classic

[quick locust]

Human eye doesn't process anything

[small zinc]

Sure. It's a figure of speech

[quick locust]

[small zinc]

The human eye can't see that.

Or tell the difference

[nocturne drift]

Yooo if u can't tell a difference I feel sorry for u man.

[quick locust]

Eyesight is continous and yes you can process more than 120

[nocturne drift]

But also good for u, u save money on monitor and ur pc

[quick locust]

Depending on where in your field of view it is

[small zinc]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/12/22/why-do-we-need-120hz144hz-monitors-if-the-human-eye-cant-see-beyond-60hz/?sh=7a5bdb6b9acc

This article, even says 60 hz is the "limit" though I do know that to be wrong

[nocturne drift]

U know this article is bs

Just get a monitor and try out urself.

[small zinc]

I'm telling you, it's a psychosomatic placebo effect at 240hz.

You're not actually processing that.

[nocturne drift]

I mean in a game.

[small zinc]

Again. You're not processing that

[nocturne drift]

Not just u staring at the screen doing nothing.

[small zinc]

so the difference between 120 and 240 is nothing

I literally don't care what argument you make. Science has proven this time and time again

[quick locust]

Then give a proper source instead of yourself

[small zinc]

I admit I can tell a slight difference between maybe 120 and 144. But I've never noticed over 144

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/e_CbbAbf7gE

Science and multiple studies shows is around 250 depending on who u are

[small zinc]

I bet I can still get kills on Call of Duty players that are on these highly overclocked displays with my measly 175hz display.

Just saying.

[small zinc]

https://www.healthline.com/health/human-eye-fps#how-vision-works

[small zinc]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/12/22/why-do-we-need-120hz144hz-monitors-if-the-human-eye-cant-see-beyond-60hz/?sh=7a5bdb6b9acc

https://caseguard.com/articles/how-many-frames-per-second-can-the-human-eye-see/

I could link all day. I consider Forbes to be fairly reputable though

[nocturne drift]

U can't be serious. There is a reason why players prefer higher fps.

Esp in esports.

[small zinc]

Again. It's placebo

They think they can

They can't.

I also can take sugar pills and they get rid of my headaches.

So must be medicine right

[quick locust]

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19880012649/downloads/19880012649.pdf

meanwhile nasa with hundreds of Hz in 1988

flex

[small zinc]

Sure. They might have those displays. And then Opthalmologist after Opthalmologist continually debunk literally anything any "gamer" tries to claim.

Think i'll go with Opthalmologists with PHd's that have made this their focus

pun intended.

[quick locust]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263581776_120_HERTZ_-_THE_NEW_60_FOR_FLIGHT_SIMULATION

[small zinc]

And again, I'll concede on the 120hz thing. Hell I even concede up to 144hz as myself can actually see that difference between 60 and up to 144

But I don't believe you can tell anything beyond 144

[quick locust]

This mentions 240 as well

Now back then there were less 240 monitors, but still mentioned and considered

[small zinc]

I personally own a 175hz monitor and will be gaming with a 4090. I bought one of the absolute "best" monitors money can buy as of today. The Alienware 34" OLED AW3423AW. $1300 monitor. It's quite literally prettier than any 4K display I've ever seen.

[nocturne drift]

I personally can't stand 120-144hz in fps anymore like ow, destiny 2 etc.

I immediately tell a difference

I tested this multiple time with my monitor

[quick locust]

I don't reach that high in most games anyway on intel gpu lol

[nocturne drift]

[small zinc]

A770?

[quick locust]

yep

[nocturne drift]

I actually went from a 165hz monitor to 240hz monitor

[quick locust]

nice

[nocturne drift]

I was like wtf. This is insane

[quick locust]

I'm on an older 165Hz

[small zinc]

That's a nice GPU actually.

[nocturne drift]

Actually 280hz.

[quick locust]

I got no VRR though, but oh well

[nocturne drift]

But I can't tell a difference between 240 vs 280

[quick locust]

old gsync module monitor

[quick locust]

it's exponential

[nocturne drift]

When my monitor glitches fk u Asus. And it drop to 144. I immediately notice and restart my monitor.

I should've rma ed this a year ago lol

[quick locust]

my monitor has worked fine, just wish I had freesync or something

[nocturne drift]

I feel like yeah u can see a certain fps. But in a game u are doing more than just seeing.

U are controlling something in motion.

My workplace is 144hz and when I game on it it bothers me lol

[quick locust]

I use old windows 2000 and server 2003 pcs at work

lol

[small zinc]

Hey, Windows 2000 was an amazing OS

first OS to utilize the NTFS file system

Larger than 4gb partitions

Was super ahead of its time

[toxic wigeon]

I have a 165hz monitor but I don't have a display port so I can't take full advantage of it.

[nocturne drift]

Bruh

Get one man

Wth

[toxic wigeon]

I had zero idea what a dp was until 8 months ago.

[nocturne drift]

💀

https://youtu.be/jsnVuXj_IDM

So in gaming is different. Higher fps has less tearing, less ghosting and less latency.

Maybe that's what we feel.

It's those why people can tell high fps vs low fps in games.

Even tho our eyes can only "see" a certain fps.

Esp tearing.

Cause my workplace has 60hz monitor and its OMEGALUL

[quick locust]

Eye sees continuously

Processing is very fast though especially in people used to it

[nocturne drift]

Yeah so we can perceive the ghosting and tearing etc.

That's why people can feel a difference between high fps vs lower fps even in the upper 100s and lower 200s

Gaming is not watching a video.

[quick locust]

People can notice high framerate video as well

Even if people didnt like it as much lol

For HFR movies

[nocturne drift]

Yeah high fps video feels weird af

It looks great but feels like it's slow motion but it's not.

😅

[quick locust]

😛 people are not used to it

[quick locust]

i forgot warcomm had stickers

[molten flame]

[coarse nimbus]

You're losing sweat street credit smh... what's happened to you

[molten flame]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/sony-dualsense-edge-gamepad-release-date-battery-specs-1849915174/amp

[midnight crypt]

nice

[pale quartz]

it's definitely noticeable

the human eye doesn't see in frames, the higher vector in motion something is the smoother it is perceived by the user, this includes in displays and in nature

whether you can interpret it is another question, but it's not disputable that there is no difference to what people are seeing

[coarse nimbus]

ps5 gaming so much cheaper than a pc amirite? $200 controller wtf is this madness

[small zinc]

That's a subjective take. I mean there is actual science in how human beings perceive certain frequencies. We're all different obviously. Even I can concede that I believe you can actually see the difference between 60 Hz, and 120 Hz, even up to 144 hz. But the return on anything beyond 144 hz is so miniscule the human eye, and brain can't really process that.

[pale quartz]

the human eye doesn't see in frequencies

[small zinc]

No, but the brain can't process past a certain point

[pale quartz]

there is no such thing as interpolation for visual processing

yes, yes it can

[small zinc]

NO.

it can't.

Ive already linked NUMEROUS articles explaining this though

[pale quartz]

you know that people undergoing flight training for g simulations see "past" 500 frames right?

[small zinc]

There is literally zero difference in an overclocked 360 hz display vs a 240 hz display

or a 240hz vs 144hz

[pale quartz]

difference doesn't mean can't process

subjective exposure doesn't = not processing something

[small zinc]

And actually, the human eye can't see past 60hz.

again, it's the brain's interpolation of it.

[pale quartz]

that's, yeah sorry no, just false

[small zinc]

Ok.

I do understand though that Hz =/= FPS though either.

Interesting summary of this here

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25644611/

[pale quartz]

this is due to higher rates of polling, it does not mean the brain can't process past a certain rate, it absolutely can

[small zinc]

So you're disputing an actual research article published directly on the National of LIbrary of Medicine

lmao

ok.

You're right. That research must be wrong.

[pale quartz]

Low sampled eye tracking (60 Hz) lead to an under estimation of the detection of saccades while 120 Hz sampling results in a higher accuracy in the detection of fast eye movements and fixation durations. A certain detection of small saccade durations, as they occur in reading, requires higher sampling rates of the used eye trackers.
A larger number of saccades were detected for the 120 Hz than for the 60 Hz eye tracker (p=0.011, two-sited t-test), see Table 1 and Figure 3. The 120 Hz mobile eye tracker also led to a more reliable estimation of mean saccade duration (Δ = 5.91 ms, p = 0.033, two-sited ttest), see Figure 3. Despite these differences, the number of saccades undetected by the stationary eye tracker but detected by the mobile eye trackers was very low and ranged below 1% of the total number of correctly detected saccades.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7141092/

[small zinc]

Yes. Saccades

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK10991/

It's also not common.

I also think people get fixated on that frequency = frame rate.

It does not.

[pale quartz]

what do you think monitors use?

[small zinc]

Why do you think I typed that?

lol

[pale quartz]

the human eye uses saccades for interpreting monitor polling

it's why there is a buffer

[small zinc]

Monitors don't really have the capabilities to go to super high frame rates because of the motion blur techniques used. That's why these "call of duty pro league wannabe" who claim that 360 hz monitors make a difference are full of shit.

[pale quartz]

that and the previous topic are two different things

[small zinc]

This was the argument earlier.

Very few people have the ability to see that 500+ hz frequency because of their point of foveated fixation. It's just not common as pointed out in both those publications.

[pale quartz]

I won't involve myself with the whole being able to detect changes, professional players have naturally higher reaction times than the median person so are more sensitive to polling differences, whether the average gamer can detect it is impossible to answer

[small zinc]

So yes, the human eye absolutely does see "hz" because of fovea

[pale quartz]

no, that doesn't mean the human eye "sees" a polling rate

the brain processes it in a form it can understand, it doesn't have a conception of what a polling rate even is

auditory information isn't processed from technological means, that's why monitors have interpolation to begin with because of the rapid sequence the brain responds to when involving vectors in motion

[terse lava]

https://www.xidax.com/?xdx=1173 number 1

[toxic wigeon]

I DIDN'T KNOW OK!

[small zinc]

That's entirely untrue. It's why we don't generally see the flicker on screens because our eyes can generally see faster frequencies than the refresh rate of a screen, but that much is limited depending on each persons foveated fixation as each article shows.

There are tests specifically for this too

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-13900k-cpu-has-been-overclocked-past-9-ghz

[untold verge]

Does someone else have the problem that anti cheat kicks you after 2-15 min in the game?

I have this problem since one week it’s horrible

[quick locust]

[dry pike]

Depending on the anti-cheat in question first thing to do is to go to the anti cheat manufacturers homepage and look at their support - troubleshooting page

[dry pike]

my 250/50 internet is having a delightful issue

[quick locust]

Uhhh.. Nice 😛

Surprise upgrade

[dry pike]

Not gonna call them about it thats for sure

[small zinc]

Me feeling pretty good about my 917 Mbps down, and 938 Mbps Up

Although I used to have 5 Gbps down. I miss that quite a bit.

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/RSUlvaE6N1U

[forest narwhal]

Playing the game on PC. Does the EA app have to be open for me to play through Steam?

[pale quartz]

no, it's bundled with it

[forest narwhal]

So when I open the game through Steam, can I close it? You said no to my question of having it be open and then say it’s bundled with it.

Sorry for confusion. I am an idiot

[dry pike]

no

[ivory creek]

microsoft seem to have removed the free hevc codex from the store. will i still be able to use it as its already installed on my computer or should i just remove it and get microsofts paid one?

[quick locust]

Just use VLC

[pale quartz]

ms-windows-store://pdp/?ProductId=9n4wgh0z6vhq think you gotta do due diligence

[ivory creek]

ye ive tried several links that worked earlier, including that one. and all i get in return is a site saying that what im looking for is missing

and i cant find the hevc codex in my app library in the ms store anymore either

but if i search for it in the regular pc program list its still there

[pale quartz]

..

terminal

[prime jasper]

vlc and mpv works nicely

[toxic wigeon]

Hey Deco a mate is looking at an R9 X3D chip, Does the motherboard between B650 and x670 really matter?

[nocturne drift]

nope

only difference is pcie gen 4 or 5 depending on E variants and pcie lanes/usb speed/sata ports

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah thought so.

[pale quartz]

huh? its not even out yet

but yeah it doesnt matter, if hes planning on buying it early on hes better getting x670 as vendors update the AGESA faster than on budget platforms

[molten flame]

7950X3D likely Spring launch

[pale quartz]

it is in spring but like

its also expensive too

[molten flame]

$999

[pale quartz]

not as severe as that, but more expensive than i think people are assuming

[nocturne drift]

$998

[toxic wigeon]

I am aware that the R9 x3d isn't out yet.

But a mate is looking into it.

[pale quartz]

^

[crimson meadow]

guys

im going to try to run rt on my 1050 Ti

wish me luck

you can do it in fn btw

[nocturne drift]

I don't think even Unreal Engine 5 can carry that lol

[crimson meadow]

Yeah

It's a very smooth experience

15fps

And this nanite thing is responsible for 99% of it

[nocturne drift]

😅

[crimson meadow]

I wonder how it would run with a gtx 1660 super

its the best card iirc that doesnt have rt support

[nocturne drift]

That's 1080ti

[crimson meadow]

huh really?

that doesn't make sense

kinda a dumb naming scheme

[nocturne drift]

Yeah 1660 super is azz

[crimson meadow]

bro the 1080 ti even competes with the 3060

but its more expensive

so my next upgrade will be a 3060 ti

[nocturne drift]

Yep it's the GOAT

[crimson meadow]

but no rt

[nocturne drift]

1080ti was 600 usd. More than 5 and half years ago

[crimson meadow]

damn

[nocturne drift]

1660 super can't even beat a 1070ti

[quick locust]

Why not a 6650xt

👀

[crimson meadow]

Is it cheaper?

[quick locust]

depends on area

[crimson meadow]

India

Say is it cheaper?

[quick locust]

I'm not indian, wouldn't know

[crimson meadow]

…

In your area

[quick locust]

yes, it's cheaper here

3060 ti is priced around 6700xt here

3784 kr for 3060 ti, 3296 kr for 6700xt

2598 kr for 6650xt

[dry pike]

Gotta check ones own retailers, then calculate FPS per monies

[quick locust]

Yep

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRGhCNH7aGY&ab_channel=HardwareUnboxed

[molten flame]

waiting for 8 MCD

512-bit

[molten flame]

https://wccftech.com/battlefield-1942-is-the-latest-game-to-get-modded-with-portals-rtx-remix/

[toxic wigeon]

That's going to be very weird.

[nocturne drift]

Z490 dark arrived!

Thing is MONSTROUS

[molten flame]

Get a chiller and OC 10850K to 6GHz

[molten flame]

RTX 4090 laptop GPU pulls over 200 watts

[midnight crypt]

5min battery time

very nice

[quick locust]

And limit is 100Wh battery for airplanes

Though desktop replacement laptops always had the battery more as an UPS lol

[toxic wigeon]

@pale quartz What makes a lower cache CPU more sensitive to memory?

[pale quartz]

rasterisation for games will run through the nearest stack level

that is it will use the L3 layer cache if it can first for transmitting as it's infinitely faster than main memory

if it runs out it will default to main memory afterwards which is why the cache allocation influences sensitivity to memory

e.g. it runs out and you have shit memory it will slow to a crawl, and your performance decreases

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-unveils-hof-extreme-50-pcie-gen5-ssd-with-up-to-10-gb-s-read-speed

10 GB/s read & 9.5 GB/s write

[river plume]

hey battlefielders

i got a question

i have rtx 3070, if i were to upgrade to a really powerful CPU like I9-13900K, would my GPU actually bottleneck the CPU

[molten flame]

yes

best to pair 13900K with RTX 3090 or greater

https://www.techpowerup.com/302446/intel-reorganises-its-graphics-chip-division-raja-koduri-seemingly-demoted

[river plume]

thanks a bunch

[river plume]

I suppose i can get away with RTX 3080TI (got a potential swap + cash deal)

[nocturne drift]

3080ti is basically 3090 depending on power limit and what model u have, ur fine.

[molten flame]

Blackwell might be MCM

[pale quartz]

it's not lol

[molten flame]

incoming 600mm^2 die on 3nm then

[small zinc]

Holy shit

Microcenter Dallas has quite a few 4090’s

[small zinc]

Besides 256 more CUDA cores, 2 more RT cores, faster memory, quite a bit higher bandwidth, and 8 more tensor cores

But they’re basically the same

Lol

[toxic wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532439361854242817/1056069397921411082/IMG_3979.jpg

[molten flame]

There probably won't be any i9 variants of Intel 14th gen at launch

[nocturne drift]

New amd driver fixed the playback and idle power draw.

power draw in game is exactly the same.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-now-available-with-full-ga107-gpu-and-15w-lower-power-consumption

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/341761-amd-ceo-expected-to-announce-zen-4-x3d-rdna3-gpus-at-ces-opening-keynote

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i5-13500-offers-all-core-boost-of-4-5-ghz-with-power-unlocked-12600-12700k-performance-for-270

[river plume]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-4-smallest-6800u-handheld-console#/

This is really cool, i loved the psp hahah

[gleaming peak]

Hello, my pc will not boot to windows with resize bar enabled. Changing uefi back to csm boots to windows, but disables resize bar. I have an i5 11400f, rx 6800, and msi b560 motherboard. Please @ me if you wish to help. Thank you for looking at this chat!

[pale quartz]

CSM is not compatible with resizeable bar, it is dependent on 4G decoding and as such your drive has to be in GPT format

UEFI only is the only way you can have it enabled, if you have any drives which are in MBR format you cannot enable it

[gleaming peak]

@pale quartz Can you walk me through how to enable it correctly, by vc or dm? Thanks for informing me

[pale quartz]

no can do

as I said format your drives to GPT to enable UEFI, then you can enable resizeable bar

[gleaming peak]

Ok, thank you!

[short pawn]

curved V flat

whats better

[gleaming peak]

to me, it depends. I would say for 34+ in monitors and bigger, curved

[pale quartz]

long story short depends on the panel and its size, curved has advantages such as a being able to see the screen at wider resolutions easier but can suffer from colour looking washed at certain angles with IPS and VA, flat panels are easier to mount on a table and take up less space, there's no real better one

[short pawn]

ill go with flat

[silk ocean]

can someone please check how much does their battlefield2042 loads their disk drive, because mine reads 200 mb/s in main menu idle for no reason and now i someone else has this issue

https://i.imgur.com/pqJZQdc.png

[dry pike]

I have this as well

What is weird is that the task manager still reports the disk usage as very little

[molten flame]

Ryzen 5600X massively outselling its successor 7600X in December

4x more

[molten coral]

I’ve this as well

[pale quartz]

it's not a bug it's correct behaviour

2042 uses continuous asset streaming from the drive when in missions

[dry pike]

wouldn't the assets be cached in memory and not read the disk at 300MB/s at some point?

[pale quartz]

that's not possible the textures are too big

they are dynamically loaded in and out according to what the player is viewing within a game

if they were loaded into main memory the game's utilisation would easily be over 30GB

main memory is too slow for dynamic allocation aswell

[dry pike]

Guess I'm back to wishing they didn't use the in-game engine for the menu background

[pale quartz]

yeah dunno why they thought rendering the map within the menu would be a good idea but eh

it's not as severe as people think, the reported transfer rate is actually just block transfers of small files instead of mass transfers

also why the game runs like shit on hard drives

[dry pike]

Interesting, I suppose that explains the difference in reported transfer speed and drive utilization percentage

[quick locust]

2042 on SD card when

[pale quartz]

nothing like burning out NAND

[midnight crypt]

i wonder what that smells like

[north crow]

pfft, I don't see the problem

I wonder how well that scales based on your system

[pale quartz]

well it causes a big issue ironically not with capacity but with sensitivity

if it uses more you can just buy more sticks, but the IMC gets hammered meaning it may/may not be stable depending on your board

and if it isn't, good luck to not having a blue screen occur

[north crow]

what's the IMC?

[molten coral]

Interesting

[north crow]

should it keep streaming while just sitting in the menu?

[pale quartz]

integrated memory controller

and yes it will do that

the game renders a 3D model of the map in the background menu which is how it pans around, it's taken directly from the multiplayer ones

[dense urchin]

what motherboards will be compatible with a 9400f ? price range around £70-100

[rough scarab]

Anything 300 series

[prime jasper]

Try B360 motherboards

[quick locust]

B460 is socket 1200

[native oar]

I'm having some pretty severe issues with battlefield 1, it says my graphics driver is version 0.0.0 and needs to be updated, and the game won't launch.
fixes online involve editing registry files (don't want to screw with radeon) or reinstalling my graphics drivers (tried this, didn't work).

[prime jasper]

Oh ok, my mistake

[quick locust]

No worries

H370 too if decently priced

[quick locust]

Tried DDU? Do other games work?

[native oar]

the idea of DDU scares me since last time I used a driver uninstaller (officially made by radeon btw) it bricked my computer.

I have battlefield 4 and that works, idk if that's on the same engine.

[quick locust]

DDU is used by most people without issue

I think its same engine but older version

[native oar]

my pc is a world of issues and I have terrible terrible luck with technology.

not to say that anything is inherently wrong with it, but that every time I tinker with radeon, update it reinstall it, downgrade it, it wipes all my settings and then I try to import them locally but it won't let me.

[pale quartz]

sounds like you have bit rot lol

[short pawn]

https://www.amazon.com.au/PRISM-F240n-165Hz-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B0BBRBPNK1/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8 https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-24-full-hd-165hz-gaming-monitor-1920-1080/ between these what would you say better?

[toxic wigeon]

They're both pretty good. I like the first one because it's cleaner?

[pale quartz]

second, isnt even close

first is a TN panel avoid it like the plague

[short pawn]

?

[pale quartz]

it has a TN panel

get the second

[short pawn]

Sooo Kogan

Got it

Stralia

[toxic wigeon]

I got panels mixed up.

Lol.

[crimson meadow]

Bf1 is so poorly optimised

It doesn’t even run on my GT 710 or my G 210

[pale quartz]

ok

[toxic wigeon]

Those laptops?

Wait I misspelt it.

[toxic wigeon]

That's not a matter of poor optimisation dude those are some really old cards.

[coarse nimbus]

is that just a troll?

[toxic wigeon]

No idea lol.

[crimson meadow]

It’s a joke lol

[crimson meadow]

It is

[toxic wigeon]

I fell for it HAH kill me now.

[crimson meadow]

Lmaoo

The gt 710 is a literal meme card how did you fall for it

[toxic wigeon]

Because I'm still learning hardware.

I'm not familiar with <2018.

[crimson meadow]

And I play on a 1050 ti not a gt 710

[toxic wigeon]

Not a bad card.

[crimson meadow]

It’s ok

We all are

[toxic wigeon]

I like learning about the older tech though.

[pale quartz]

the 1050ti is a bad card lol

[crimson meadow]

Me too

[toxic wigeon]

Like a 3900XT CPU.

Better than the 710!

[crimson meadow]

Then explain why it has like 3% market share

That’s a lot

[pale quartz]

because its cheap

its a bad card

[crimson meadow]

Even integrated graphics is better

[crimson meadow]

?

[pale quartz]

i dont know how thats hard

its a bad card in performance

[crimson meadow]

Rx 290 is also bad by that logic

[pale quartz]

yeah.. they both are

[crimson meadow]

6500xt is also bad by that logic

[pale quartz]

no..

you really dont get it

[crimson meadow]

@pale quartz have you heard of something called low end gaming?

They are pretty good value cards

[pale quartz]

it doesnt mean they are good cards lol

value isnt performance

[crimson meadow]

Fair enough

They aren’t necessarily good but I’d get them for let’s say under 90 or 100 bucks

[crimson meadow]

But value is more important

Unless you’re elon musk

[nocturne drift]

Holy msi

Msi x570s tomahawk max draws 280+w stock with 5950X in cinebench. Instant 105c

How is this acceptable

💀

[small zinc]

Bad is subjective

And integrated graphics is most certainly not better than a 3050 ti

[short pawn]

Will changing hdmi to DisplayPort 1.2 fix/help freesync to work?

[small zinc]

Does your monitor support it?

Also not necessarily

DP is a faster throughout cable supporting higher resolutions at higher refresh rates. That’s the primary difference. Freesync will work on HDMI too

[short pawn]

Yeah monitor got freesync but I tried both standard and premium modes and it does not work

[small zinc]

If you don’t mind my asking why do you need it?

G sync and Freesync have always been gimmicky

If you’re getting any kind of tearing VSync works just fine

Or simply going to your AMD control panel and limiting frame rate to that of your monitor. In fact one less frame is generally a good rule of thumb

But if you’re dead set on enabling Freesync, should just be a toggle in the Radeon software

Under “Display” submenu

[short pawn]

I used to use enhanced sync but then that suddenly stopped working

Vsync is fine but it's just when I touch gldsource and source engine games it gets wavey

[small zinc]

Well a couple issues to rule out, to determine if it’s a GPU issue or a monitor issue

Any other monitors to test on?

But I would limit frame rate manually first. See if that helps

The wavy lines is artifacting, not necessarily a Vsync issue

[short pawn]

Oh I ment like a floaty feeling

The most noticable input lag I've seen

[short pawn]

And I've went though 2 amd cards and both didn't work

[north crow]

ah! do you know what the main thing is that changes between low load vs. high load that makes the IMC fail/misbehave when under a lot of load?

[pale quartz]

it depends on the workload mainly, if you're running something severe like AVX that's wanting bandwidth you can detect instability by periodical fluctuations in the transfer rate, though in regards to memory specific instabilities it'll depend on the manufacturer for the DIMM, the tldr is each have different configurations for processing clock cycles/buffers at low latency, and as such are more influential to specific settings than another (e.g. Samsung will be more sensitive to tRFC relative to performance than say micron), and on the reverse on that because micron built their memory on the premise of bandwidth first, it becomes volatile when dealing with TRRD and others, having 4 sticks will test the IMC however (it's something you shouldn't do at all on DDR5) due to simultaneous data streams (2x double data rate)

[north crow]

I see! so is the IMC part of the memory sticks themselves?

also, this makes me worry about my 4 sticks of DDR4

[pale quartz]

the IMC is embedded within the processor, it did used to be outside on the motherboard, in a different age

[north crow]

ah!

that's really interesting. so the main instability is inconsistent transfer rate, and other issues may arise depending on what memory you have?

[pale quartz]

yeah that's correct, anything that's processor dependent will in some form be memory sensitive (because the clock is pegged to the memory, so if that slows down, or stops etc, then the CPU deadlocks), in games you can see it with skipped frames or periodic jittering on heavy scenes, if it occurs then its a sign to loosen up the timings

[north crow]

right

[pale quartz]

there's one thing that I've not mentioned and it's something to be more concerned in dealing with memory, specifically bit rot

the invisible plague that will kill your pc

[north crow]

I've heard that the 5800X3d (that I got some time ago) is really good in the 1%/0.1% lows. It's also apparently not too reliant on having super fast memory. Is this in any way related to the IMC, or the 3D cache of the processor maybe?

[north crow]

That's what ECC addresses, right?

or would address, if it was available in consumer hardware..

[pale quartz]

it's related essentially entirely to it's L3 cache (3d), as it's stacked it's a monolithic die, so it's not split on say the 5900x, which means there's no latency penalty for swaps out of L3

[pale quartz]

correct, EEC is also in consumer memory, but thanks to intel it's difficult to find

[north crow]

I see!

swapping out of L3 to... ram? or the other caches?

or anywhere in general?

[pale quartz]

well with memory transfers specifically it's cache -> processor if the L3 is enough to handle the block transfers (if it's under 96MB), if it's higher than that (128MB), it'll run through L3 then be processed from main memory

with the 5800x3d it's got more than enough to handle the data streams directly within its cache, so there's no swap from cache to memory, well very rarely anyways

games will use memory for handling textures and what not, but what you don't see is its more or less instantaneously offloaded to the L3 if possible

ryzens a bit of a call it unique architecture for this, intel doesn't require a massive L3 as it doesn't have an IF where data is streamed to

[north crow]

I see 😄

thanks for elaborating on all that!

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to the actual inner workings of pc hardware, but it's very interesting to read and talk about

[pale quartz]

yeah no problem it's the I suppose you'd call it black box for hardware in general

mainly cause it's stack is massive even related to software and well nobody cared about it till the last few years

[nocturne drift]

Max tuning 5800X3D ram gives like 5% performance

💀

Might as well run 3600 CL18 xmp

Also msi ventus 3080 temps are a joke lol.

Gonna repaste and repad tomorrow

I got some arctic mx6. Gonna see if it's good. I heard great things about it over mx4 and it's cheap as well.

[cursive marten]

if you're elon musk frankly i don't know what's important to you. dunking on people on twitter, probably.

man literally spent billions of dollars just to own a platform where people regularly dunk on him

[cursive marten]

well, someone pinged me.

[heady pawn]

Is it better to put the radiator on the intake or outtake?

[pale quartz]

do not put a radiator on the intake, it must be outtake

the only circumstance you do intake is in a negative pressure flow setup

[small zinc]

Nothing beats Thermal Grizzly

Unless you go liquid metal

And then. Thermal Grizzly

Lol

[nocturne drift]

I have thermal grizzly, its sooo expensive

[small zinc]

Literally the best tim I have ever seen

And used

[nocturne drift]

and like 2c-3c better than mx4 on 2080 super at 250ish watts

The guy getting the card aint repasting so I think mx6 is better here. Alot thicker and almost no pump out affect

[small zinc]

Hell I’ve knocked off 10c just by repasting GPU’s. Their pads are good too for the VRM’s

Ah well I guess in that case

[nocturne drift]

I use kryonaut personally cause I chase timespy rankings lol

but I am very curious of mx6, its 2.5 times cheaper and from videos its abit better than mx4

decently thick as well

[small zinc]

I used to be a believer in Arctic products too. And then I went to Gelid GC Extreme. And then Kryonaut

[vivid berry]

wich game keeps crashing

[rustic lance]

Is there a tech support channel in this server? For some reason no one talks about the major issues im having with BFV

[quick locust]

No there isn't

Read channel desc

If you have issues search EA forums or make a post there

[rustic lance]

Yeah my issues arent on the EA forums or solved

I dont understand why there isnt a channel here, so much more efficient than old school forums

[midnight crypt]

This discord isn't official

if you didn't know

[rustic lance]

There is an official one?

[midnight crypt]

There isn't

[rustic lance]

wow.

man this is dissapointing :/

cant even play the game

[quick locust]

Old school forums? Don't make me old

But yeah that's where a lot of support is

[short pawn]

Does the aoc 24g2u have longevity

Cause I was told the Kogan one was bad and too get the aoc instead

[dry pike]

You have your own thread on Answers HQ?

[rustic lance]

No :), i just tried to see if the issue was already there, but it’s okay now in a way, i gotta change settings on my laptop screen, then play after on my external one

Works okay for now!

[dry pike]

the problem is probably already there but ok

[plain herald]

is my computer enough powerful for bf1?

I'll give you my specs

wait

intel core I5 10500

intel UHD 630

8gb ram ddr4

(2667 MT/s)

500gb ssd (half arch linux half win 11)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhjzte5dkLU

here it uses my same GPU

and it uses 6gb of ram

so it should be enough

[short pawn]

Oof intel HD

[midnight crypt]

you need a gpu

[short pawn]

Everything is fine

You just need a gpu

[plain herald]

they guy in the video uses mine

so it should be enough

but I don't wanna risk

A gpu is expensive

[short pawn]

It's much more reccomended to get a seperate gpu than use intergrated cpu

[midnight crypt]

well sure its gonna run

but as you can see

not very good

[plain herald]

that's what counts

[short pawn]

Like maybe 20-40fps tho

[plain herald]

My best was 25 fps on minimum in every game i played

soo

good

[short pawn]

Bruh

That's no way to game bf1

You need at least 60

[plain herald]

I played a heavy engineering game

on 1200 x 920 lol

[short pawn]

I recommend just getting a budget gpu

That's all you need

[plain herald]

how much is budget?

my budget is 90 euros

[short pawn]

Something like a Rx 5500xt or maybe 3060

[short pawn]

Your not getting anything

[plain herald]

[midnight crypt]

there are some very low budget gpus out there

[short pawn]

Gpus are the most expensive part of your pc for the most part

[midnight crypt]

that are decent

[short pawn]

Maybe you caan get used

[plain herald]

that thing costs more than my entire pc

[midnight crypt]

try browsing ebay or something

[short pawn]

Try getting used

Used inst bad

[plain herald]

by crypto miners

lol

[short pawn]

It means someone has tried it and it works

[plain herald]

sure it'd last 1 minute

[short pawn]

My original gpu was used

It lasted over a year and still works

I just wanted more fps

Since the 570 was weak

[short pawn]

You can see if the gpu was used for mining on the gpu since there are traces of it

Also eBay's return garuantee

[plain herald]

?

[short pawn]

There is evidence if the boy has been though mining if you look at the chip

[plain herald]

how?

[short pawn]

Why does gpu keep getting auto corrected to gol and boy

[plain herald]

dunno

just add it to your dictionary

[short pawn]

https://appuals.com/how-to-determine-if-a-gpu-has-been-used-in-mining-or-not/

[plain herald]

it won't correct it anymore

[short pawn]

The specs and hardware is usually tweaked with while most of the time used uses the base unchanged

[plain herald]

@short pawn so basically if it's dry?

(the thermal paste)

[short pawn]

Basically

Thermal paste might be reapplied on used so it won't be automatically mined

Don't worry you got ebay's money back guarantee

[plain herald]

hmmhh

but

does it enter in my 100 euros target?

[short pawn]

Idk

I'm in aus

Probably money back fro all items

[plain herald]

lol

wait

[short pawn]

*racis

[plain herald]

racist?

[short pawn]

Anyway don't play bf1 with that intel had

[plain herald]

lol

157,66 australian dollars

are 100 euros

[short pawn]

Inflation

WOOOOOOI

[plain herald]

wooo

so are they enough?

[short pawn]

Your specs

No

The default for gaming at this point is over 100fps

And about 60 at minimum

Just go for 60

[plain herald]

lol wtf

I'm good with 30

anyway

[rough scarab]

You can't see more than 30 anyways

[plain herald]

160 australian dollars enough?

[plain herald]

it makes difference

but 30 is very good

[plain herald]

@short pawn

for 30?

as a target

[short pawn]

30 is really only good on lastgen console

And switch

60 all the way

[plain herald]

i play it on my ps4 pro

[short pawn]

Go see something like r/pcmasterace they can help

[plain herald]

but i hate joysticks

they are always broken

[short pawn]

Honestly I think playing on controller is better than 30fps of

[plain herald]

no

they slide

[short pawn]

30fps pc is not the same as 30fps console

[plain herald]

wdym?

I play other games on pc

and 30 fps looks cool

[short pawn]

30fps console is a bit more equal to 50-60 fps pc

Rn your pc is only a workstation

Unless if your playing old games like half life

Or maybe valorant

[lucid sapphire]

My disc for 2042 looks fine but it keeps making the loading noise then says unrecognisable disc, no scratches but it’s still shit apparently

[short pawn]

If your going for these high demand games 60fps is a must

Only times you don't is if it's an RTS or a extremely casual game like that potion game on steam

[plain herald]

sooo

what gpu should I get?

[short pawn]

Bf1 = best at 60

[short pawn]

I don't really keep up with the current gpu prices

Just make sure it dosent bottleneck

[plain herald]

well

my cpu is good

[short pawn]

If you know what that is

[plain herald]

the ram isn't the problem

[short pawn]

Intel HD is not a gpu

[plain herald]

Sorry

Cpu

[short pawn]

Cpu is good

You need a gpu to go with it

[plain herald]

There shouldn't be any bottleneck

Mayne the ....

How is it called lol

The switch?

Electric switch?

That thing that expands the cables

From 1 to like 5

[short pawn]

You can put your gpu inside

[plain herald]

Not that

I can't send images lol

[short pawn]

Power cables

The gpu ones

[plain herald]

Power slip

[short pawn]

Idk what

[plain herald]

I'll dm you

@short pawn did you see it?

[short pawn]

I got nothing

[dry pike]

!!regular

[silent oasis]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.

[dry pike]

Alternatively there is boosting

[plain herald]

Oh wow

[dry pike]

You can still link to images hosted elsewhere, they just wont embed

[short pawn]

Yeah death comes for us all kid

[dry pike]

Not going well for LastPass https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/lastpass-user-data-security-breach-incident lol

[plain herald]

@dry pike how do I change the name color? (The info say I can )

[dry pike]

when are regular

[plain herald]

Ah lol

[short pawn]

Or booster

[plain herald]

I thought I had that role

Lmao

[short pawn]

Reminds me of when same thing happened with nord

[dry pike]

That was a VPN service, this is a password service. Also, that was a single non-Nord server in Finland.

[plain herald]

How can't you remember passwords

They're idiots

[short pawn]

What if their using a random generated password of just letters and numbers

Or have a bad memory

[plain herald]

Still better

Than using strange services

[dry pike]

This is a good safe password: E8H6v^6UGEpcJ$@*LgK@
Now remember 50 of them.

[plain herald]

Write them

On paper

Safe

Free

Cool

[short pawn]

You need to type it in manually

[plain herald]

Customizable

[short pawn]

Also what if you loose it

No more paper ' no more password

[dry pike]

not safe, not bringing my password paper with me wherever I go, horrible solution

[plain herald]

What If you don't remember the password for the service?

[short pawn]

Forgot password

[plain herald]

[short pawn]

Have remember me on

What does Overdrive in monitors do

[prime jasper]

We are the 3rd world of hosting and internet connections

Which is sad because we do have the tech but nothing gets done unless they are forced to do by laws

And we make tech but its for other countries

[short pawn]

Reminds me of that scene of when Brian griffin replaced all the stuff in that British guy's house with American stuff and it all breaks

[small zinc]

What constitutes "regular"? I've been here for a while, and am active every day

lol

[coarse nimbus]

Mod favorite

[small zinc]

Ah.

Well at least I think that's the most viable answer anyone has given. There's nothing other than this in #info:

@Regular: Earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands and change what color you appear in chat.

That couldn't be any more vague.

So that's really what it boils down to. Moderator liking someone well enough to grant them the role since it clearly doesn't happen automatically with bot moderation.

[lofty light]

It does lol

[small zinc]

Ok, at what message count does this happen?

[lofty light]

It just takes a long time, and any infractions take away from the total

It's not just a message count

And we don't know

Admins set it and keep it hidden

[small zinc]

I see

[lofty light]

Definitely not manually given though, we used to give it manually at it was a buttload of work

[dry pike]

As a mod I couldn't give anyone the role even if I wanted to.

[lofty light]

Exactly, thank god because otherwise I'd be spammed with DMS about it again

[midnight crypt]

we can arrange some DM spam for you

[small zinc]

haha

[plain herald]

My pc sucks

I should buy a new case

Motherboard

PSU

And ram

And also coolers

[small zinc]

I've got a new PC on the way from Lyte Technologies. Ordered on December 6th. Still waiting. But granted, they custom build them as they're ordered and as of before Christmas holidays started, they did actually have hardware in stock so I can only imagine that they had a large volume of orders.

[cursive ermine]

just ordered kingston a400 ssd is it good

[quick locust]

No, but usually cheap

[nocturne drift]

mx6 is great, alot thicker than kryonaut and kept the infamous 3080 msi ventus temps in check in furmark

nice

[short pawn]

How often is the monitor lottery good with the aoc 24g2u

[dry pike]

Monitor lottery?

[short pawn]

the thing ive been hearing with quality control

[prime jasper]

Some monitors have backlight bleed and/or dead pixels

That's the real monitor lottery

[molten flame]

I think dead pixels mainly come from lazy transportation

Postal workers will toss boxes around even if the box says fragile and is heavy

https://wccftech.com/amd-declines-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-rma-for-hitting-110c-junction-temps-says-temperatures-are-normal/

Tfw 7900XTX runs like 30C hotter than a 4090

[midnight crypt]

that is impressive

[prime jasper]

110 C isn't normal

Idc what anyone says

[toxic wigeon]

Jesus christ.

[coarse nimbus]

Have they tried using a cooler on it?

[toxic wigeon]

Founders edition rip.

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sk-hynix-to-showcase-gddr6-aim-memory-next-month?

GDDR6-AiM

Next thing you know, GDDR6-AIM-9X

GDDR6 air-to-air missiles

[coarse nimbus]

War thunder bleeding effect happening

[rough scarab]

I saw someone say their 6900xt running 110 hotspot was fine because it's within spec

[ivory creek]

i cant find any way to stop youtube from playing stuff in 4K when available, i get weird delays ingame whenever a 4k youtube video starts in the background

i want to set it at 1080p max

[quick locust]

Isnt it the same as 5700 or 5700xt

[molten flame]

ye

reference 5700XT

[quick locust]

https://www.eteknix.com/amd-says-5700-xt-110c-temperatures-are-within-spec/amp/

[molten flame]

[nocturne drift]

I just had the most frustrating ram OC session ever

These rev e won't do 2x16 over 3800 cl17.

I corrupted 2 os

[prime jasper]

Yikes

[idle basin]

Does anyone know why bf2042 is eating the wifi at my house and causes my pc along with every other electronic device to lag very badly. I get like 2000-3000ping most of the game and my gpu spikes crazy high. Before anyone asks I meet all the requirments and everything is up to date, no virusus, all that stuff

[toxic wigeon]

I know that for a fact because of 128p it will demand more out of your internet than usual.

[prime jasper]

What yall use for cleaning monitor screen?

[errant cypress]

cleaning cloth that came with my glasses and cleaning solution. sometimes I use disposable lens wipes but I don't find that good for cleaning bigger things.

[toxic wigeon]

Seriously.

Just the stuff you use to clean your glasses.

[prime jasper]

yes microfiber cloth is good but the cleaning solutions are not

i hear it can damage the coating on the monitor screen

but something needs to be used to clean the monitor after while there is stains

Samsung recommends distilled water + white vinegar

[pale quartz]

it'll be fine 99% of the time just don't overdo it when spraying

stripping the coating on monitors is pretty difficult unless you're deliberately going about it

[tribal sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQwdbvRPw00

der bauer on the amd gpu.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-with-blower-type-cooler-is-now-on-sale-in-china

[prime jasper]

That has to sound like a jet engine

[cursive marten]

vrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[rough scarab]

Water only

[dry pike]

slightly warm water, don't want to damage the coating on the monitor by using the wrong product

[prime jasper]

Doesn't it leave water marks

Or just spread out the stains

[dry pike]

use a microfiber cloth to remove excess water so there are no marks

[rare cipher]

https://imgur.com/a/wjEyLgE
Made this for peeps with Rivatuner alongside msi afterburner :3

Don't worry it's smaller than shown in the screenshot

[dry pike]

looks good

[errant cypress]

For a long time, I always disconnected my phone from power at 100% thinking that it would damage the battery. Still don't know if this claim is true, but I stopped caring about it now. This monitor cleaning stuff reminded of it.

[rough scarab]

You also don't need to fully drain the battery so it can "keep it's charge" anymore

[pale quartz]

it's false, tldr when your phone hits 100% it will reroute its power output through AC to bypass the battery entirely

[storm osprey]

i miss the old days of strictly trying to keep your battery between 20 and 80 percent

[flint locust]

I just pay for the warranty and when my battery goes bad i accidentally drop it face first on the bathroom tile for a brand new phone

[storm osprey]

breaking the system

[quick locust]

[flint locust]

I just call support and say its broken, they mail the new one then i break the old one

[coarse nimbus]

hes a fraud 💀

[flint locust]

I paid for the extended warranty I'm gonna use that extended warranty

[coarse nimbus]

...hypothetically could i get an extended warranty on 2042? and "accidentally" break it so I can request a new game? perhaps one without bugs in it 🙏

[flint locust]

Do they even sell physical copies on PC? All i got was a code never saw a disc version.

Probably would be like 25 discs

[coarse nimbus]

I mean i can break the hdd its on...how it happens isnt important

[flint locust]

lmao

then you would have to warranty the hard drive too

[coarse nimbus]

guess thats a good thing with new consoles, the dual layer discs that can hold a shit load of game data

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/work-hard-drive-מסווג-נמלטיםמסווג-gif-23161162

[flint locust]

When i was at my family’s on Christmas still had to download the whole game even though they had the new cod on disc. Was no different to the 2042 code i redeemed on it. No point in discs

[coarse nimbus]

you had a physical disc but it still had to DL it all?

[flint locust]

Yeah the whole fuckin game

[coarse nimbus]

bruh what

well i mean i guess that makes sense..a lot of games these days have updates that are literally...the whole size of the game , redownloaded and installed again

[quick locust]

Last actual physical game I got on pc was witcher 3

Well and ESO but thats an mmo so theres new stuff anyway

[flint locust]

Yeah it was around 100GB or more, so the whole game. Pretty much zero point in buying physical copies anymore.

I don’t have a console so i didn’t realize that’s how it is now, at least that was on a PS5 but assuming xbox is the same

[quick locust]

Iirc switch games mostly have the data still

[flint locust]

Think the last time i had a disc drive in my PC was 2015

[errant cypress]

Yes true I heard this too

Disc games are cool, you can share/trade them, not that I bother with it but still.

[short pawn]

can a display port that is advertised as 60hz do 144 when set by software

[dry pike]

The port?

[toxic wigeon]

It's a cable type alternative to HDMI.

[pale quartz]

DP protocols are limited to refresh rate per resolution, if you're saying can it perform 144 at the same resolution the answer is no

the wire won't have the required bandwidth for it

[short pawn]

what about a 4k60hz cable on 1080p?

[pale quartz]

yes it can do 144hz at 1080p

[short pawn]

ahh ok thanks

i tried out the alien test and it showed me that the 144hz was smoother than 60 few

[silk linden]

any suggestions for bluetooth headphones for mobile listening for videos/music

i tried the sony 1000xm5, but they feel kind of uncomfortable for me... sound is great and all, it just feels annoying after a while

[molten flame]

https://preview.redd.it/gegkrk7sc19a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f45942e9e3190be29f3664aa07903bf8fb6c7493

[nocturne drift]

I did it.

World's fastest 10700k + 2080ti in timespy and speedway

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/34131576

https://www.3dmark.com/sw/207147

[oblique crag]

is there a way to fix the msvcp and cr folders missing to open battlefield 4?

ive reinstalled the game 6 times, checked download intergrity 6 times too, and reinstalled the visual redistribute c++ files

and the same error pops up

(im running windows 11)

[tribal sundial]

tried to repair it?

[toxic wigeon]

[tribal sundial]

@nocturne drift resolution?

[nocturne drift]

Timespy normal can only run 1440p

[tribal sundial]

ok

[nocturne drift]

Timespy extreme is 4k

I think speedway is 1440p as well

[tribal sundial]

my cpu drops it down a ton

old one :P ( 6800K )

[pale quartz]

these are VC redistribution files that are mandatory to play the game (and many more), you can get it here https://aka.ms/vs/17/release/vc_redist.x64.exe

[prime jasper]

Congratulations

[nocturne drift]

Thanks.

I returned the bdie and got 2x32 of ram for 100 dollars less.

It's doing 4133 CL18 rn.

Gonna fine tune later.

[turbid verge]

Nice

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/retailer-shares-failure-rates-for-gpus-motherboards-ssds-more

I've always been saying that Gigabyte has the highest defective rates

I've only had issues with Gigabyte GPUs, no other vender

[pale quartz]

they have the shittiest material components so yeah it's not surprising

[dry pike]

Has to be said though, the statistical data this is made from is severely limited.

[molten flame]

I've been told by numerous miners that they have more issues with Gigabyte than any other vendor

[dry pike]

I'm not saying any conclusions about Gigabyte gfx cards are wrong, I'm just saying they are not statistically sound.

[molten flame]

One dude I know had 12 Gigabyte RTX 3060s and over half of them were defective but had few issues from other GPU vendors

He mined with them and tested them all before selling them, he couldn't successfully RMA any of them too which is a problem I had as well with Gigabyte CS

[dry pike]

Sadly we don't get real large numbers. I remember an old French article, probably around 8 years old, where they actually got big numbers across entire product lines. I don't recall GB doing that bad but is so long ago the numbers are probably not relevant anymore. It was however interesting to see that many manufacturers had like 1 motherboard, or 1 gfx card that had many defects while the rest were fine. The philipino store could have only sold the 1 bad Gigabyte model which would then lead to larger numbers, but again, we don't know.

And yes, I also don't have big confidence in Gigabyte gfx cards.

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/26Lxydc-3K8

damn

amd done messed up

nvidia should tweet about this like amd.

double standard

[molten flame]

[nocturne drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHWxAdKK4Xg

also in real world work flow situations intel draws less power than amd generally

so intel is the way to go for consuming less power unless u blender render 24/7

measured from the wall as well, damn

[molten flame]

especially against Zen 4

[coarse nimbus]

lol that thumbnail..bruh wut

[nocturne drift]

who doesnt clickbait these days lol

[molten flame]

by 2030s China will have faster CPUs than Intel and AMD

[coarse nimbus]

which tech did they steal from the most?

[molten flame]

AMD reverse engineered Intel's first CPU to make their own first CPU

all the way back when jimi hendrix was at the top of the world

[coarse nimbus]

bill gates worked at amd?

oh wait no he just straight up stole shit from ibm

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Lxydc-3K8

glad i didnt buy one

[quick locust]

https://twitter.com/ricswi/status/1609054464689991680?t=A1tKM699fwJaw6pGvu4GCw&s=19

Richard Swinburne (@ricswi)

Intel just cut the price of the ARC 750 in TW by US$100 to $227

Twitter · Dec 31, 2022, 5:10 AM

[supple mica]

Can someone help me it won't let me join any games

[sterile flower]

i cant even login to origin

[supple mica]

Oh

It keeps saying something about error

[sterile flower]

where can you find this?

[small zinc]

These videos are such horeshit and just like Gamer's Nexus, JayzTwoCents, Hardware Unboxed etc. Shit like this is for the "clicks"

It's all fabricated

Just like the stupid Nvidia 12 pin connector melting

Because it happened once or twice based on a shitty wiring job, I guess it must be a problem

Do reference cards run hotter than AIB cards?

yes

We know this.

The end.

Mystery solved.

So because he got absurdly high temps on a couple test samples in what was probably a shitty test bench in who knows what ambient temps to begin with without having fully watched it all, all AMD RDNA 3 cards must be in trouble

[midnight crypt]

yikes

your dumbass is showing