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prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 12:37 PM

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Also the warzone streamers that bought 4090 gonna be mad as xtx delivers more fps

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😂

quick locust Dec 13, 2022, 1:05 PM

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Yeah though that game is a bit of an outlier

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Its around 4080 in most

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 1:13 PM

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which engine its on

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ah yeah their own

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IW 9.0

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 2:47 PM

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7900 xtx is 1189€ here

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pc gaming is hella expensive

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few years ago you could get whole pc for this price

midnight crypt Dec 13, 2022, 3:10 PM

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i mean you still can

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 3:15 PM

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not the same value

small zinc Dec 13, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Oh hey look. RDNA 3 scalped up immediately.

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shocked face

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lmao. $1800+ on Ebay.

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Scalpers really think they're gonna move those?

midnight crypt Dec 13, 2022, 4:43 PM

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morons

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is what they are

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 6:20 PM

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Yep.

urban lion Dec 13, 2022, 7:32 PM

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Why does reflections on water look like pixelated? Any fix I can try?
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-V/Pixels-in-reflections/td-p/8127005
not my post but this is a link to an image that is the same issue
(bf5)

molten flame Dec 13, 2022, 7:50 PM

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People are paying more for 7900XTX from scalpers than 4080

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WeirdChamper

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Probably just AMD fans with more money than sense trollge

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Those 7900XTX at $1500+ are somehow selling on ebay

dry pike Dec 13, 2022, 8:26 PM

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Good. AMD needs market share to make Nvidia behave

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Also, buy some Intel cards

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all the Intel cards

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 8:29 PM

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can someone explain how microsoft can charge people money for the hevc codex to windows when theres a free one that works just as great if only you know what to search for?

quick locust Dec 13, 2022, 8:30 PM

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licencing

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 8:31 PM

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seems dishonest to me

quick locust Dec 13, 2022, 8:31 PM

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Implementing a device or software application that uses HEVC may require a license from HEVC patent holders.

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it's not microsofts fault

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 8:32 PM

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yet there is a free working one that u even get updates to from the microsoft store

quick locust Dec 13, 2022, 8:32 PM

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microsoft and other companies have worked on AV1 instead which does not require licencing and is open standard

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 8:35 PM

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i heard av1 got horrible quality at higher res on youtube, atleast a while ago

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so it was better to turn off av1

pale quartz Dec 13, 2022, 8:37 PM

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ivory creek yet there is a free working one that u even get updates to from the microsoft s...

that isn't Microsoft's one

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it's exclusively for boards that have the license paid already (it's why it says OEMs), you just happen to be able to download it for free

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also AV1 is leagues ahead of HEVC in quality

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 8:38 PM

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so youtube just screwed up implementing it?

pale quartz Dec 13, 2022, 8:38 PM

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no it works fine lol

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it's worked fine for years

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 8:38 PM

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oh i should stop believing things i read

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lol

pale quartz Dec 13, 2022, 8:39 PM

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yes

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 9:17 PM

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I just use vlc

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It plays most stuff

small zinc Dec 13, 2022, 10:24 PM

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molten flame Those 7900XTX at $1500+ are somehow selling on ebay

No they're not. I can almost 100% gauarantee they're not. You might see a few bids, but those are either bots or accounts people are bidding to jack up the prices that will never get purchased. I do think that the 7900XTX is a pretty good value once AMD and Nvidia both stop purposely limiting supply of hardware like the anti-consumer companies they both are. It will definitely outsell the 4080 for sure, but I think the initial launch scalping will turn out exactly like the 4080 did aka store shelves full of them at Microcenter, and scalpers returning GPU's to stores since they can't even make any profit on them after sellers fees.

small zinc Dec 13, 2022, 10:27 PM

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prime jasper I just use vlc

100% this. One of the best players in

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well ever.

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 10:28 PM

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7900XTX is slightly better value compare to 4080 and 7900XT.

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Still not a good value.

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All these 3 gpu are clapped.

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Only decent value is bestbuy XFX 7900XTX (that's a mouthful lol) at 100 dollars less than msrp.

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And 7900XT, wtf is this. It's like they copy pasted Nvidia's bs 4080 formula.

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On core/pricing

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https://youtu.be/q4XA1YEM5q8

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OMEGALUL

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https://youtu.be/ledACPcb4Bs

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The only good thing about this gen launches is the entertainment

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Absolute jokes.

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https://youtu.be/351H7F0QoKE

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Even MLID

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This is actually so funny.

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@molten flame look at them apologizing.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 10:46 PM

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deco i followed ur advice and told youtbe to only play av1 from now on

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leo

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 10:47 PM

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Does that help with resources or smth?

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 10:49 PM

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not sure

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i heard someone write its heavy on ur gpu

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but i have no idea

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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Oh. Av1 on YouTube sounds cool.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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like u need a 3000 series to watch it , older doesnt have the support

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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I'd prob try.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 10:50 PM

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idk

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 10:53 PM

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The bidding war on this evga dark x299 and 7980xe and 32gb bdie is going hmm.

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I am gonna pull my max $ at the last 10 sec hopefully in 2days.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 10:54 PM

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where i was bidding u put an autobid which overbid other peoples aslong as u agreed to it when needed to

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it ended at around 900 euros for my 3090

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lol

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 10:55 PM

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That would be cool.

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I have a budget haha. Or I'd just Microcenter 12600k/12700k that comes with a free mobo.

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I want that evga xoc for meme goodness lol

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:00 PM

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an amd autoupdate dos window just showed up out of nowhere

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am i being hacked? leo

cursive marten Dec 13, 2022, 11:03 PM

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oh yeah i breached your firewall sorry mate

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:04 PM

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bro i have expressvpn connected to nsa

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ure screwed

cursive marten Dec 13, 2022, 11:04 PM

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i actually hijacked a flight to the ISS so i'm in space

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the NSA can't do shit

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:04 PM

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lol

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 11:06 PM

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All of the new gpu's are horrible value

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Fucking lower the prices by 300 they still expensive

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:07 PM

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im kinda happy my 24gb vram 3090 at isnt being breached at 900 euro

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lol

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:07 PM

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Idk eu pricing but I assume thats not too bad

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 11:08 PM

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Maybe i should just not buy one

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1500 for aib xtx

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Tuf gaming and red devil

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Expensive as shit

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:09 PM

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what about kingpin unlocked voltages?

prime jasper Dec 13, 2022, 11:09 PM

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1189 for the amd cooler one

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But its loud

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:09 PM

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i heard kingpin cards are the only that can adjust voltages

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lol

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u can fry them if uncareful

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Yes kingpin 2080ti 3090 3090ti

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I was experimenting 1.3v vcore at 2200 on my 2080ti kingpin

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I stopped cause hotspot temp was wack( need repaste) and my Psu is a 750w bronze.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:13 PM

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meanwhile i set my voltages to +100/max in msi afterburner

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:13 PM

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That's fine

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:13 PM

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doesnt make any difference

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:14 PM

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It only Mae's difference if you lock the voltage curve, and you are not power limited, then you up the clocks.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:15 PM

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my 3090 often goes up to like HIGH core mhz when not being used then when i truly need it it goes down to basic

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:15 PM

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For example my 2080ti strix +0mv top off at 1.025 ish volt. Then up the slider to +100 will get me to 1.093v (Nvidia limit for 20 series)

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:15 PM

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ivory creek my 3090 often goes up to like HIGH core mhz when not being used then when i trul...

Power limited

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Ampere sucks power

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U see ur clock speed up and down like an earthquake graph

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:16 PM

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i only have a toprated 850w 80plus gold psu

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so maybe

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:17 PM

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It's more of can u gpu cooler cool it, do u have vbios flash or shunt mode to unlock it without rendering the card useless etc.

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Strix 3090 cooler at 480w sustained reaches 80-81c, almost 98c hotspot.

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And that's in 1080p Witcher 3

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OMEGALUL

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:18 PM

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i reach around 75c when it starts to throttle

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i heard about other 3090 doing the same

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really weird

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:19 PM

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Maybe it's the hotspot temp? Or the vram temp

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Techpower up gpuz give u hotspot temp and memory temp. Also hwinfo64 vram Tjunction

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:19 PM

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i might want to change cooling paste, but i dont wanna void my warranty

nocturne drift Dec 13, 2022, 11:19 PM

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I suggest undervolt.

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:20 PM

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ye well it goes up to full boost, just not as HIGH as it is before fully used

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my boost is like 1800mhz?

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when the card is being moderately used its at 1950mhz

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would be cool to keep it at that

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:23 PM

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ivory creek would be cool to keep it at that

Undervolt the card

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veryweird

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Oh was already suggested

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:24 PM

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can we even tuch the volts? isnt it just undermining performance?

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:24 PM

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Nope so using msi afterburner it's totally safe

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Lowering the voltage slowly to your preferred clock speed until it doesn't work

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Meaning the programme doesn't work

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Not the gpu

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:25 PM

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lowering core clock and then make it jump up u mean

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:25 PM

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Like a game or benchmark

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:25 PM

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like all youtube suggest

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:26 PM

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Like setting the core clock speed and then lowering the voltage

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:26 PM

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we cant tuch voltage tho

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so it sjust lowering core clock

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:27 PM

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So I just run heaven benchmark and then set it to like 1920 or something and then lower the voltage until it shows artifacting or crashes benchmark

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:27 PM

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did u really lower the voltage or just the core clock lol

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:27 PM

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There's a graph

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In msi afterburner

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:28 PM

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ye i tried

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made a custom curve

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i got a REALLY GOOD benchmark result. but in game it was the same

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:28 PM

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Yeah it should be uphill until your desired clock speed and then completely level

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Hmm

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Then run the game and re try

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I did the same thing

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:29 PM

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ye i need better cooling and maybe a more powerful psu

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:30 PM

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The reason I did it was to get better temps and stable performance

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I would say it's worth doing even without those upgrades

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Depends on the card though

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If its a 30 series+ sure

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If not then it's debatable

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:31 PM

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its a 3090

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but ye thanks for all the help

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:31 PM

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Yeah 3080ti definitely worth doing

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Np

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:31 PM

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wat u suggest i get a 3080ti instead? waste of money im

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o

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lol

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:32 PM

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Nah I was saying that's what I have

ivory creek Dec 13, 2022, 11:32 PM

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ah cool

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my bad

rare cipher Dec 13, 2022, 11:32 PM

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All good

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:03 AM

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@nocturne drift @pale quartz Got a SSD question

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:04 AM

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?

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:04 AM

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I personally haven't kept up with V-Nand storage and controllers, so looking at the best bang for buck PCIe M.2 to pick up for my new PC. It comes with a budget Adata drive, and I may recycle my drives out of my current PC

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But I'm looking at the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus or the Hynix P41

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Seems like the Samsung is too inconsistent for my liking, but not really able to tell very well

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:05 AM

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tldr minimum get one that has a phison E18 controller

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can pretty much disregard it if the controller isn't that or higher for satisfactory performance

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:06 AM

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So the PhisonPS5018-E18 looks pretty legit then

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Looking at Tom's write up of it now

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:07 AM

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yes it's a good drive, but you're not getting it for the drive specifically

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phisons I/O+ firmware is rolling out for SSDs that use that controller over this and next year, it'll be critical for performance

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:09 AM

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Was kind of doing a bit of digging, and while it's been in development for a while, Microsoft's Direct Storage API seems pretty neat, it's essentially useless as there isn't anything to take advantage of it.

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:09 AM

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that's what the firmware is for, it's built to handle the streaming pipelines that DS uses

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:09 AM

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Any games that we know of in the pipeline that will take advantage of that?

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:09 AM

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theres some coming out next year

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:09 AM

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Feel like that's another bonus of UE5

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:09 AM

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depends on the DS revision specifically

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GPU decompression was just shown, so it'll be a while for that

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:11 AM

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Ah ok, so the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus does use the E18 controller as well

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Specifically the 4 Plus G

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Worth the extra $100 for that even though no performance difference now?

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:12 AM

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uh I mean it'll have higher quality VNAND, which means theoretically it'll handle sustained writes more effectively, can't answer if it's worth it though I've not seen performance for the drive

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main recommendation would be the firecuda 530 though, has been out for a while and can be found decently priced

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:13 AM

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I know that these 7,000 MB/s sustained read drives are fairly misleading. Many of them claim they do, but Crystal Mark typically ousts that pretty quickly

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:14 AM

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the advertisements are ran in synthetic rather than 4kB blocks which is why it's misleading

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ironically the I/O+ firmware does improve the 4KB block performance massively, which is why it's basically a minimum for SSDs going forward

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Ok, thanks man. I think I'm sold. Think that Firecuda is the way to go. I did have my eye on that, but kind of let the "Ohh Shiny" of a couple other drives distract me too

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:18 AM

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I use the drive myself got the 2TB model, TBW on the drive is exceptional and it's got top notch (non PCIe 5 drive) performance in every metric can't go wrong with it

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:19 AM

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Stack that with my Corsair MP600 2TB, and my 2x Corsair MP510 drives, maybe Raid 0 them for some fun and have plenty of ridiculous storage

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:19 AM

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oh definitely don't do RAID

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:19 AM

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Haha, no, I wouldn't RAID those

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Kind of fun to see synthetic benchmark numbers, but other than that, no other real practical use

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:21 AM

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it's a bit more of a headache for NVMe because of split x8 on the PCIe, can cause issues for other devices that aren't directly connected to the CPU

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freezing etc if its under massive bandwidth

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Went AM5 platform for my build. While the 7900x not quite as fast as the 13900k, the difference is pretty negligible. 44 lanes to use there

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:23 AM

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x670e?

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Believe the board for the pre-built is non e

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:24 AM

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won't be an issue if it's AM5 then since it's PCIe 5.0 compliant

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:24 AM

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oh no wait. it is the "e" board

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ASUS Prime 670-e

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:24 AM

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it has full PCIe 5.0 coverage on the entire chipset then, you'll never have issues with bandwidth

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thats including USB etc aswell

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:24 AM

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https://lytetechnology.com/product/lyte-colossus/

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This is the PC I bought. Would have loved to build my own, and have for over 20 years now. But I'm just not going to play the scalper game again with GPU's for the next two years again.

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:26 AM

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yeah I mean it's a fine choice specification wise, don't see why you wouldn't get it

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:27 AM

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Oh I bought it, about a week ago. Still processing, but after having talked to them on the phone, they supposedly do have all the components in stock and supposed to be delivered before Christmas. Not holding my breath on it, but we'll see.

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:30 AM

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only thing I'd say is update the AGESA when it arrives but should be about it

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:33 AM

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Basically BIOS updates yeah?

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 1:33 AM

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yeah that's what it is

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 1:35 AM

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Been pretty happy with AMD, still rocking my 3900x. Never updated to Zen 3

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So the 7900x will be a pretty big uplift along with the 4090 from a 2080 ti

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:05 AM

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massive jump

ornate nebula Dec 14, 2022, 2:49 AM

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im afraid that's the only choice but I really didn't want it to come to that

toxic wigeon Dec 14, 2022, 4:21 AM

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With the cache in. How much hotter does the x3d run?

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Say versus a 5800x.

molten flame Dec 14, 2022, 7:05 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222060964319723521/1052385046318821426/image.png

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RTX 40 mid-range 🤢

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RTX 4090 GigaChad

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128-bit GPU at 220 watts

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leo

toxic wigeon Dec 14, 2022, 7:10 AM

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No 80 and 90ti?

molten flame Dec 14, 2022, 7:18 AM

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refresh next year

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 7:35 AM

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they better do some super crap like 20 series cause 4080 and down is wtf

cursive marten Dec 14, 2022, 8:49 AM

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man i wanna grab a USB AT2020 so bad. but i'll probably end up grabbing a headphone splitter to use the mic i was using before.

molten flame Dec 14, 2022, 9:06 AM

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nocturne drift they better do some super crap like 20 series cause 4080 and down is wtf

4080 Ti with AD102 and 320-bit would be nice

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Not happening tho

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4080Ti will use full AD103 die, 10752 CUDA

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 9:07 AM

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Ewww

molten flame Dec 14, 2022, 9:07 AM

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Still nearly 60% less shaders than 4090

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 9:07 AM

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Maybe 4080ti cut down 102?

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4080 super full 103

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 11:53 AM

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toxic wigeon With the cache in. How much hotter does the x3d run?

85-90 degrees is the regular

crimson meadow Dec 14, 2022, 12:36 PM

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what do you guys think is the most used gpu?

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i think its the gtx 1050 Ti or the gtx 1060 6gb

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 12:38 PM

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crimson meadow what do you guys think is the most used gpu?

steam hardware survey has it as the 1650

crimson meadow Dec 14, 2022, 12:40 PM

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pale quartz steam hardware survey has it as the 1650

thats recently

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im saying of all time

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for rtx cards its defo the 3060

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 12:40 PM

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it definitely isn't the 3060 lol

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and of all time, it's not any Nvidia card

crimson meadow Dec 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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pale quartz and of all time, it's not any Nvidia card

then what would it be?

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integrated graphics ig

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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it's Intel's iGPUs

crimson meadow Dec 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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pale quartz steam hardware survey has it as the 1650

btw can u send me to the link of the hardware surveys

pale quartz Dec 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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they have sold far far more than Nvidia will ever sell

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it's public info

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just Google it

crimson meadow Dec 14, 2022, 12:44 PM

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k

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 1:41 PM

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crimson meadow btw can u send me to the link of the hardware surveys

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

crimson meadow Dec 14, 2022, 1:42 PM

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nocturne drift https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-t...

yeah got it now

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:28 PM

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I can’t imagine even with initial hype launch that anyone is buying a 7900xtx on eBay for those prices

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Average seems to be $1700

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Some listings like PowerColor over $2K

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I do think they’ll sell more than the 4080 for the value to performance thing it has going for it. But I’m almost confident nobody is buying at those exorbitant prices. They’ll be up there until Christmas is over and the scalpers will likely be fucked.

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:32 PM

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https://youtu.be/UDlLiwevwTI

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Very interesting.

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So 13700k + hynix m die tuned is about 10-15% faster than 7900x + hynix m die tuned in gaming. 13th gen with hynix A die vs Zen4 3D + M die would be very close.

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Could really go either way.

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My initial guess is stock X3D wins and tuned tied/loses.

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I think it's gonna be very interesting

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Based on Zen 3 performance the 5800 X3D is pretty impressive. I don’t think AMD is done yet

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Maybe even win.

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Yes. But ddr5 now closes the cache performance gap.

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If it's still ddr4 then yeah amd wins straight up.

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However I don't think games right now scales with ram going over 7000. I could be wrong.

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When the F is i2hard gonna get Z790 and a die lol

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:38 PM

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But honestly, the difference in performance at the enthusiast level is so negligible. Nothing anyone would actually notice from in real world performance. Let’s be honest here, even the 7950 and 13900k still bottleneck the 4090

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:38 PM

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Exactly that's why 4090 performance is not much higher than 4080/7900xtx in cases. All cpu bottlenecked

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:40 PM

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It’s why I went with a 7900x/4090 build myself. Can’t really justify maybe 5-10 frames tops for another $250

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Rather spend that on a phison based m2 drive

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:41 PM

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https://youtu.be/PnsBYy5_Rvc

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I2hard has around 40% average faster than 4080 with a I assume a maxed out 12900k

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:42 PM

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nocturne drift Exactly that's why 4090 performance is not much higher than 4080/7900xtx in case...

It’s time for a new API. I’m over Direct 3D. I really wished more developers jumped on Vulkan. It’s superior in literally every way. It’s open source, can be used on Linux based systems, and generally just achieves superior performance overall.

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:43 PM

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Ngl. Idk what fortnite did yesterday

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The new update is crazy

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I have like almost 0 stutter dx12 maxed settings (no lumen aka raytracing)

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Before was a stuttering mess.

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Time for more game optimization

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I really wanna test this on the 8700k + 2080ti build but I sold it to my friend

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💀

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:45 PM

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Tell that to WB Montreal for Gotham Knights

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:46 PM

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Didn't they make shadow of war?

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:46 PM

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They didn’t get the “oh we should optimize our buggy ass game” memo

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Even 4090 has frame dips down to 40

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Like… what?

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:47 PM

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Could be cpu/ram

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It's very complicated esp on the lows.

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For example. Rdna2 has crazy high avg in warzone 1 but trash lows

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Warzone 2 is fine now.

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:48 PM

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More UE4 woes….

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Memory leak I think

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:49 PM

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I hope I get my 2080ti build back up again to compare to my 3090 build.

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I am an enthusiastic and wanna take advantage of a die then I looked at good Z790 boards and was like fk

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It's crazy a 12700k + z690 tuf d4 is 322 at Microcenter, 12900k combo is 450

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If I want to take advantage of Hynix A die. I would need to drop 350+ on 13700k, 400-500+ on a good Z790 mobo that do 7800+ and 300+ on hynix a die 2x16

small zinc Dec 14, 2022, 2:54 PM

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12700k is@just fine. Those E cores are stupid

nocturne drift Dec 14, 2022, 2:55 PM

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Yeah only thing bad about 12th gen is e cores.

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13th gen u want those e cores on

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I am at a point where I just wanna go ddr5 now

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Had my fun with d4

molten flame Dec 15, 2022, 12:56 AM

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https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-1459-is-the-1-bestselling-gpu-on-newegg-rtx-4090-at-3-the-rx-6600-is-the-most-popular-amd-card/

Hardware Times

NVIDIA RTX 4080 ($1,459) is the #1 Bestselling GPU on Newegg, RTX 4...

NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4080 has made it to the top spot of Newegg's bestselling chart. The Gigabyte Gaming OC variant is currently the most sold GPU at the retailer.

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Proves that the masses are dumb Feelskekman

small zinc Dec 15, 2022, 2:21 AM

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molten flame https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-1459-is-the-1-bestselling-gpu-on-n...

This is skewed.

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Nvidia themselves admitted they were purposely limiting supply of the 4090

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Of course it's the highest selling. They had more from the get go

storm osprey Dec 15, 2022, 3:55 AM

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People also don’t want to drop close to 2k on a gpu and they are comparable in price to performance.

molten flame Dec 15, 2022, 8:43 AM

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Yeah but 4090 is still better value sadly

toxic wigeon Dec 15, 2022, 9:13 AM

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My 5800x3d works like a dream.

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 10:37 AM

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new witcher 3 update is a JOKE

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even with 0 rtx

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50-60% gpu usage

quick locust Dec 15, 2022, 10:40 AM

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it instantly crashes for me whenever I turn on RT lol

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but runs decent on ultra

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 10:41 AM

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I use to push 140-180 fps

quick locust Dec 15, 2022, 10:41 AM

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all overlays dont work for me so idk how many fps i get

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 10:41 AM

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now I am 80-120fps without rtx and under 60-70% gpu usage

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yeah I crashed a couple times as well, and event viewer didnt pick up a thing.

quick locust Dec 15, 2022, 11:07 AM

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nocturne drift now I am 80-120fps without rtx and under 60-70% gpu usage

which overlay works for you?

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RTSS and steam overlay is broken for me in it

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 11:08 AM

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Geforce experience 💀

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Fortnite is crazy. I push 220-277+(fps cap) at max setting no rtx.

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And it's butter smooth

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A couple days ago fortnite did smth that made the game basically stutter free on my pc with dx12 max setting

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Will simp Unreal engine 5 now

pale quartz Dec 15, 2022, 11:58 AM

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nocturne drift A couple days ago fortnite did smth that made the game basically stutter free on...

will have been the introduction of nanites

toxic wigeon Dec 15, 2022, 3:35 PM

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I was stressing so much that the fan I got wouldn't be enough.

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But after seeing how big it was and how much more efficient it was over my stock cooler was (anything is) I'm glad

storm osprey Dec 15, 2022, 3:43 PM

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molten flame Yeah but 4090 is still better value sadly

Iirc they have the same performance ratio

ivory creek Dec 15, 2022, 4:13 PM

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was apparently posted by an accident

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lol

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 4:25 PM

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There is not much point anymore.

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Kingpin is no more :C

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Hof will be the only xoc card. It will smash all records with no competition.

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 4:26 PM

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pale quartz will have been the introduction of nanites

It's some amazing stuff.

ivory creek Dec 15, 2022, 4:29 PM

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oh theres an even better picture, missed it first

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ivory creek Dec 15, 2022, 4:47 PM

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windows 10, version 22h2 has been an optional download for forever here, tried to install it once but it became currupt and i ended up having to reinstall windows from scratch

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should i try again?

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 4:51 PM

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Linux👍

pale quartz Dec 15, 2022, 6:11 PM

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ivory creek should i try again?

should have just installed the ISO from w10 22h2 lol

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 6:32 PM

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ivory creek

Ah yeah only for 4999,99 + your soul and kidney

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Sapphire just added, none available still tho

Screenshot_2022-12-15-20-37-41-59_df198e732186825c8df26e3c5a10d7cd.jpg

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Expensive

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4080 starts at 1550€

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 7:16 PM

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midnight crypt Dec 15, 2022, 7:18 PM

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why the hell is that 1070 ti running so damn hot

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 7:21 PM

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Blower design

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Went brrrrrr

toxic wigeon Dec 15, 2022, 7:24 PM

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Don't think anyone expected that card up there.

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 7:29 PM

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https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/sapphire-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-nitro-review,1.html

Guru3D.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ review

The NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX is a high-performance graphics card with a beautiful, minimalist design, excellent cooling, and a solid power delivery system.... Introduction

nocturne drift Dec 15, 2022, 8:59 PM

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10850k draws 180w in battlefield 2044

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LOL

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 9:04 PM

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fbi knocking at your door soon for using too much power

ivory creek Dec 15, 2022, 9:40 PM

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uh

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ever since i got my 3090 ive had this weird thing where my gpu tries to go into idle or something when playing games that barely require anything

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causing uneven performance, sometimes stutter in games

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would setting it at maximum performance fix that?

misty dragon Dec 15, 2022, 11:11 PM

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ivory creek would setting it at maximum performance fix that?

should do

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i mean, you're putting it at maximum all the time?

ivory creek Dec 15, 2022, 11:13 PM

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cool, ill try it out tomorrow. thanks

prime jasper Dec 15, 2022, 11:39 PM

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prime jasper fbi knocking at your door soon for using too much power

Lol

molten flame Dec 16, 2022, 1:07 AM

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nocturne drift 10850k draws 180w in battlefield 2044

when does 2044 come out? leo

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 2:40 AM

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Oops LOL

grizzled apex Dec 16, 2022, 5:49 AM

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Can someone help me figure out why 2042 uses only the integrated graphics instead of the dedicated gpu

dry pike Dec 16, 2022, 1:11 PM

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grizzled apex Can someone help me figure out why 2042 uses only the integrated graphics instea...

grizzled apex Dec 16, 2022, 1:25 PM

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Did that

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I’ve pretty much tried everything in the book.

dry pike Dec 16, 2022, 1:29 PM

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!!support

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small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:26 PM

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I love all these "reviews" of GPU's as if actual consumers who aren't multi-million subscriber Twitch channel and YouTube content creators are able to actually purchase them

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AMD and Nvidia are both so far fucked in their own agendas, PC gaming is essentially dead

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I'm not sure they can get anymore anti-consumer than they are

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COVID silicon shortage from two years ago + Crytpocurrency (now defunct) + Sneakerhead community crossing over into GPU hardware + Purposely Limiting hardware = Dead as fuck.

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And let's be honest, the only GPU worth a fuck this gen is the 4090. The rest of them while decent performance are priced so far out of reality and they don't care.

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 5:29 PM

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That's why we wait 2-3 more years to enjoy this.

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I have 2 spare 2080ti already saved up for any of my friend who wanna enjoy gaming

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:34 PM

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nocturne drift That's why we wait 2-3 more years to enjoy this.

I honestly don't believe it's going to get better. Nvidia and AMD both have had the opportunity to fix it with lottery systems like EVGA did. Captchas on their site. Extra bot purchase protections, limiting sales etc. They've chosen to do nothing. It's more beneficial to keep stock low, drip feed a few GPU's here and there to keep hype through the roof so stocks that would otherwise tank are kept high and therefore shareholders pockets full of cash.

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This "trend" is here to stay

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 5:37 PM

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Well gotta get them at second hand market when the wealthy upgrade looks like 😅

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:37 PM

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The only silver lining right now is the absolute flop the 4080 is.

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I was out running errands earlier. Stopped by Best Buy and they had a FE 4080 on the shelf. Nobody cares

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Microcenter is full of them

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I’d buy a 4080 at $800-$900. Ain’t paying $1200+ when the 3080 was $700. Makes no sense

storm osprey Dec 16, 2022, 5:42 PM

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just checking my local inv at best buy and there are no 4080, dont have a microcenter where i live but i randomly clicked some 3 major cities and they were all sold out too

prime jasper Dec 16, 2022, 5:42 PM

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amd and nvidia are both trying to sell overpriced gpu's

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:43 PM

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storm osprey just checking my local inv at best buy and there are no 4080, dont have a microc...

I wouldn’t go on inventory. That whole system is fucked beyond all recognition because of scalpers playing the app game of adding to cart and changing stores etc.

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I bet if you walked in there might be a 4080

storm osprey Dec 16, 2022, 5:44 PM

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ive never known my bestbuys to not report accurate stock

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:44 PM

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My store also says no GPUs

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4080 FE in the cabinet

storm osprey Dec 16, 2022, 5:44 PM

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and you found one, not really a sign of much

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:45 PM

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I also left it there, lol

storm osprey Dec 16, 2022, 5:45 PM

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cool?

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:45 PM

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Just saying. inventory at Best Buy is incorrect

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So is MC

storm osprey Dec 16, 2022, 5:46 PM

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its possible, but absolutely no way to know and to draw conclusions from

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 5:46 PM

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Only way to know is physically go

storm osprey Dec 16, 2022, 5:47 PM

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exactly..

prime jasper Dec 16, 2022, 6:14 PM

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all i know is average gamer wont be spending +1k for gpu

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not to mention people actually go out now

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gpu demand isn't as large anymore

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but somehow the price is

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🤷‍♂️

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and if the yet to released mid range isn't much faster than 6900xt / 3080 / 3090 / ti but costs more

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lol

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gamers will happily use those

molten flame Dec 16, 2022, 7:17 PM

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7800XT probably matches 6950XT

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:18 PM

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FK

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I LOST MY BID ON EBAY

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people went higher than I thought

molten flame Dec 16, 2022, 7:22 PM

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Was it another kingpin

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:26 PM

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it was x299 + 7980XE + 4x8 trident Bdie

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I want to make an evga kingpin meme build

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now looks like I wont haha

molten flame Dec 16, 2022, 7:27 PM

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yesHoney

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:28 PM

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I just want an evga dark mobo haha

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to get my OC thing back

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havent oc ed much for months

molten flame Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

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OC withdraws

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leo

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Just get 13700K and DDR5

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:30 PM

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ive just set my cards volt limit to max, power limit to max but then letting the card boost itself as good as it can

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no manual rise of the core or memory clock

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:31 PM

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exceptionally bad idea lol

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:31 PM

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ye idk

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:31 PM

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13700k and A die and a good mobo platform cost almost 1000

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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volt limit doesnt do anything on ampere cards other than changing the boost curve a little

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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I want to have a theme with this build, evga dark/blackout build

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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as far as i know

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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what is ur gpu?

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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3090

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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yeah raising voltage limit does 0

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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mm

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oh i also increased target temp

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:33 PM

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it may help if u are very cpu bottlenecked

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for example in Destiny 2 my main game, I am cpu bottlenecked. I have voltage max at 1.1v locked and it boost up to 2085, but then again I am cpu bottlenecked so wont help much.

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:34 PM

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k

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well i play on 4k so 3090 isnt fast enough for it to let the cpu bottleneck

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:35 PM

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if u are at 4k I expect 0.8ishv at 1800+ mhz

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unless u are running very light games

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:35 PM

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ye im scared to play an old game that i used to like

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since the reason new world fried cards was its high fps

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and that game pushed like 5k fps

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on my 1070

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:36 PM

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just cap ur fps via nvidia control panel

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I recommend it for any people who has g sync compatible monitors

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:36 PM

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the game has blocked all fps limits and stuff, doesnt work

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lol

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its anticheat

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:37 PM

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no way, nv control panel has not fail any game

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even valorant

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:37 PM

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hm

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ive tried several ways to limit the fps

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but maybe not nvidia panel

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:37 PM

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if u have a 240fps monitor, g sync, I would do 240-3=237 fps cap

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so u will have no screen tearing period

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only people I dont recommend this is FPS TRYHARDS

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like when they want push 500+ fps in cs go/ valo over their monitor etc

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:39 PM

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this games engine is weird and you get different movement and stuff depending on your fps, in game its limited between 250-500 fps as thats where it runs the best. but in menus it runs away to over 5k

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fps

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lol

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:39 PM

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what 3090 do u have?

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:39 PM

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a cheap one, zotac trident oc

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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thats got like 350w power limit?

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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idk

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only two 8 pin connectors

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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yeah def 0.8v at around 1800ish in 4k

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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but with its latest vbios they increased powerlimit from like +5 to +10

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:41 PM

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350*1.1=385w

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I mean not to bad

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4k is just demanding,

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:42 PM

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ye

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:42 PM

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and ampere is just insanely power hungry

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:46 PM

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but read somewhere that increasing powerlimit increase heat more than it increase performance so it sometimes lower your boost

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idk if thats true tho

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unless you got really good case cooling etc

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:49 PM

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I mean I can walk thru with u if u want

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:49 PM

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nah its alright

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but thanks

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just wenting some thoughts

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haha

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:49 PM

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I just ran timspy at 4k

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in order for me not to exceed over 385w, it would need to be around 0.825v

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my clock speed was around mid 1700s

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:51 PM

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oh that reminds me, i managed to get a really nice boost in timespy 4k tho the other day by making a manual boost curve, but then in bf2042 it would ignore the curve and go back to base boost

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:51 PM

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manual boost curve is weird

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always use auto boost curve

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cause effective clock lowers when you just drag a dot up and hit apply

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thats why optimium tech etc most of the undervolting guide is wrong

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and also why optimium tech saw his 4090 UV at the same clock speed degrade performance

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cause effective clock speed got lowered

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reason why is that IDK

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maybe deco can tell lol

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:53 PM

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ye alot of ppl tell you to set the boost curve to like -150 and then drag up the boostclock at your target volt

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to what you want

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:53 PM

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thats wrong

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u enter +150 first,

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look at the voltage u wanna stop, drag everything right of it down

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:54 PM

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and this is why we need to remove voltage controls from consumer cards

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:54 PM

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wow!

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no no no

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if u do it correctly its awesome

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:55 PM

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and we've got 99% of users touching it making themselves unstable

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:55 PM

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theres so much contradicting info on the net so its hard to know, unless u really know ur stuff

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:55 PM

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then tell them to not touch it haha

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:55 PM

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soon as it goes away sooner their random crashes go away

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:55 PM

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ivory creek theres so much contradicting info on the net so its hard to know, unless u reall...

probably stop following it then

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:56 PM

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click default botton, click check mark, uninstall afterburner 😄

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:56 PM

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^

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:56 PM

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haha

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:56 PM

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I'm not entirely sure why you're even messing with the voltage

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:56 PM

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well increasing temp and power and then let it boost on its own seem to work for me

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:56 PM

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thats fine

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u overvolt when u are not limited by power

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the only card I know thats not power limit in ampere generation in basic timespy is 3070ti and down. super high end gpu like strix

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 7:58 PM

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worst advice ive found around the net is to flash a vbios of a stronger card

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into your own

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and max everything

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some ppl srsly tell you to do that

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lol

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:59 PM

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I mean they not wrong

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 7:59 PM

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it's not a senile idea

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you just fry half the cards functionality in the process

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 7:59 PM

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but u seriously need to find the right vbios haha

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I only do it knowing it has the same vendor and the same pcb

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oh and if u have dual bios

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:00 PM

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most GPU owners are morons thinking sliders is going to turn their card into a supercomputer and their games are going to push 50% higher performance which is why the sooner it goes away the quicker this influencer trend dies off

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:00 PM

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for example, 320w asus 2080ti strix to 360w 2080ti matrix plat, same pcb, same asus

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yeah in realistic u get 10% at best, prob lower

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this trend is mostly for 2080ti cause its sooo power limited.

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maybe 30 series, but gl cooling that LOL

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 8:02 PM

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the specific advice i found was to flash some msi ventus which is their weaker card with something like gaming z and up the powerlimit in afterburner

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to see a 10% performance increase

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lol

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:03 PM

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I PuShEd mY 3080 fRoM 1650 tO 1720 WhY Is IT CrAshInG It WoRkEd FiNe FoR A WeEk

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:03 PM

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ventus is one of the worst in 30 series

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:03 PM

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ivory creek to see a 10% performance increase

ok I'm going to give you the best advice you'll ever read

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stop trying to push your card into something that you'll inevitably break

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and use it as its shipped

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:04 PM

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thing is if u know what u are doing then yes, it could improve performance, but U HAVE TO KNOW WHAT U ARE DOING.

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if not, dont touch

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dont look at some youtube video and think oh, its fine.

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 8:04 PM

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ye, i normaly do that, but ive heard ampere is so limited that u cant break them unless u go extreme and like flash other vbios. thats why im even trying

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:04 PM

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that's a total lie lol

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:05 PM

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u know what

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:05 PM

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just use the card as it is

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you're wasting your time

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:05 PM

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I have the scores for 1000w bios and 450w bios

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/23800299

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/23801449

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it did basically f all

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cause u cant cool it

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dont bother

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:06 PM

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nothing like frying power connectors in the name of performance

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the Andie GPU user experience

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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and i watched several huge tech youtubers who i think are reliable say that just upping the templimit and powerlimit might give u a slight increase without any risk of breaking

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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anything that isn't stock, can break a card

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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thats fine

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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stop believing falsehoods

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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its not gonna break

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manufacturers have that for a reason

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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there's a high chance it won't, but it can

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it's too variable to user dependence

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:07 PM

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wont void no warranty etc

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but vbios flash LOL nope ur done

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:08 PM

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these tech influencers going around and saying it's perfectly fine to push outside spec are total morons

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:08 PM

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Eh. Those YouTubers to include Jayz and GN are also pretty ignorant or at least report things for sensationalism.

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Much of their stuff is t fully factual

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:08 PM

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hopefully it all just goes away and spec controls only get allowed for kingpin models

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:09 PM

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I mean maxing out power slider and voltage slider is still within aib and nvidia's limit

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u can +100 on voltage all u want, nvidia still hard lock u at 1.1v for ampere

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only cards that can go over is kingpin and HoF

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:11 PM

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I legitimately seen a guy saying he wanted to shunt mod his card because he seen it in a video as overclocking

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it's a disease on the PC industry

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 8:12 PM

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but ye i mostly use msi afterburner and rtss to monitor my temp and stuff

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:12 PM

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thats fine lol

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:12 PM

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pale quartz I legitimately seen a guy saying he wanted to shunt mod his card because he seen...

I mean gl with that guy LOL

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I respect it but would not recommend that to anyone

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if u doing XOC stuff as daily then ur not a gamer

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:14 PM

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S_kek people didn't see the 4090 as a warning enough apparently

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800W bioses for everyone!

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:14 PM

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4090 is 600w I think

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and its very voltage limited.

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so it wont even hit that unless u doing 4k RTX or big ole donut hole furmark

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40 series is not power limited at all so no one should ever do any bs but drag sliders around lol

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I think gpu that will benefit is prob 7900XTX, those are power limited I think

ivory creek Dec 16, 2022, 8:18 PM

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i just followed ur advice deco and reset all oc settings in afterburner, even temp and powerlimit. you're right

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just gonna use it to monitor

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😄

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:21 PM

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I can run my 3090 at stock settings and my daily oc setting in timespy if u want

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:21 PM

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nocturne drift 4090 is 600w I think

4090 is 450 watts. Some AIB may draw a bit more

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:22 PM

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small zinc 4090 is 450 watts. Some AIB may draw a bit more

oh yeah, I think most aib maxing out slider is 600w

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FE is

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:23 PM

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But to be fair, the 4090 doesn’t need 450 watts. Hell you can limit the 4090 to 250 watts and still retain 91% performance

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will say that Ada is pretty efficient

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:23 PM

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yeah, 1.1v limited by nvidia

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Ada is horribly efficient

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when it draws under 400w max overclocked in 4k tomb raider

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like wtf.

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:24 PM

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Now if only Nvidia can get rid of that dumbass 12 pin connector

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:24 PM

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just plug it in all the way lol

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:25 PM

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that's not the issue with the connector

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there is a contact issue with the pins when at an angle even if it's plugged in all the way or not

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the manufacturer behind the connector had failed QA for it

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:25 PM

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It is shoving a bit too much current through too small of wires in fairness hence some of the issues we’ve seen. Each 8 pin has a thermal limit rating of 150 watts. So basically 4 of those shoved into one 12 pin connector

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:26 PM

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pale quartz the manufacturer behind the connector had failed QA for it

was that igorslab?

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:26 PM

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Nvidia themselves

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:26 PM

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oh

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oh well

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imagine 4x8 pin connector on a pcb LOL

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:27 PM

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I’d still rather have that than where they placed the proprietary 12 pin

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It’s horribly placed and designed

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:27 PM

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yeah it's a bit of a funny one, the connector spec in itself is fine, not ideal but it works, just to you can't do anything outside of what's designated or risk causing a fire

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I'd definitely tell folk just to skip to ATX 3 to save their houses

prime jasper Dec 16, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Sapphire nitro xtx with ol reliable

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:28 PM

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I mean I guess we really only need 3x 8-pin since the 4090 draws 450 watts. Even the board supplies what? 75 watts?

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:29 PM

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pcie is 75w

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:29 PM

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you can do 2 8 pin if you really wanted to

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:29 PM

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I mean its not gonna burn down a house lol

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:29 PM

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it's just not call it safe to do so

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:29 PM

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its just gonna break the gpu kinda

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its funny to see GN to tackle the 12 pin issue

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GN actually mad for that

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:31 PM

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I’m going to be anxious to undervolt my 4090 when I eventually get my PC. As much as I appreciate a space heater in my office, my 2080 Ti is already toasty enough. And the efficiency weve sent from AD cores, no reason whatsoever to ever draw 450

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Maybe initial boot?

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And even then it’s absurd

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:31 PM

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I mean u said it urself just power limit it

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no need to undervolt

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unless u want the max performance at a specific voltage/power draw

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:32 PM

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nocturne drift I mean its not gonna burn down a house lol

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never underestimate the potential for hardware

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:32 PM

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pale quartz

yeah thats overblown lol.

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:33 PM

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Gonna chalk that fire up to a shitty PSU? Not enough amps on the 12 volt rail

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:33 PM

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the connector at its edge produces heat at 115 degrees

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that is way more than enough to set something nearby alight

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if something goes wrong, best of luck

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:34 PM

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I mean thats just paranoia, ur fine

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:34 PM

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uh yeah no lol, it's far from safe

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even PCI-SIG have came out and warned out about it

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Just take precautions and ur fine. The chances are very small.

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No need to make animal0sity uncomfortable lol

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Amazon has a pretty good deal on a prebuilt in a thermal take case with TT AIO.

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$3700 for a 13900kf, MSI 4090, 32 GB PC 5600 DDR5, 1TB Firecuda 530 and a 3tb standard data drive

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Says in stock and delivers before Xmas for anyone interested

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Why sata?

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Just do 2x2tb nvme

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Just a storage drive. It’s a prebuilt.

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:38 PM

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oh

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Not a bad price for all that though

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:39 PM

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given current 4090 prices that's an alright price

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:39 PM

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too rich for me haha, I have no clue

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:39 PM

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That’s pretty much MSRP for everything

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Not bad at all

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:39 PM

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Nice

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:39 PM

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gl getting a 4090 at MSRP

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300-500 over at a minimum

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:40 PM

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That’s why prebuilt is honestly the way to go right now

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:40 PM

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You mean 7900xtx?

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OMEGALUL

pale quartz Dec 16, 2022, 8:41 PM

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joys of buying top end

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:41 PM

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Just buy top end, 3-4 years later.

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Win

small zinc Dec 16, 2022, 8:41 PM

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Thermaltake LCGS Frostbite i4690 AIO Liquid Cooled CPU Gaming PC (Intel Core i9-13900KF, ToughRam XG 5600MT/s 32GB DDR5 RGB Memory, NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 4090, 1TB NVMe Gen4 M.2, Wifi) D3FB-Z690-490-LCS https://a.co/d/eEqVwQr

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Maybe that one doesn’t have the storage drive. Still not a bad price though

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There were 20 of those as of yesterday. One today

nocturne drift Dec 16, 2022, 8:44 PM

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3090 strix stock https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33603889

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3090 strix oced https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33604021

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not too much gain tbh

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6-7%?

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 4:27 AM

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ok so new plan, z490 evga dark+ 10700k+crucial ballistic DR ram

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goal is world #1 in timespy for 10700k+ 1x2080ti

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apparently rev e newer batch can do 4400 cl17 ez

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pretty sure an evga dark can do that.

molten flame Dec 17, 2022, 8:13 AM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hardwaretimes.com/intel-core-i9-13900-faster-than-the-ryzen-9-7950x-and-150-cheaper-report/amp/

Hardware Times

Intel Core i9-13900 Faster than the Ryzen 9 7950X and ~$150 Cheaper...

The early benchmarks of the 13th Gen Core (non-K) lineup have surfaced, showing massive multi-threaded gains around the board. Starting from the bottom up, we have the i5-13400 with 6 P-cores and 4 E-cores, followed by the 13500 with 6P and 8E cores. At the higher end, we have the Core i7-13700/13700F with 8P+8E cores …

prime jasper Dec 17, 2022, 8:14 AM

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More interested on 13400 and 13500

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Will they be budget beasts

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 8:16 AM

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Z490 Dark ordered

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 9:05 AM

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Crucial ballistix ordered

crimson meadow Dec 17, 2022, 5:42 PM

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guys

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i fucking found gt 710 for $69

molten flame Dec 17, 2022, 5:47 PM

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rip off

crimson meadow Dec 17, 2022, 6:36 PM

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molten flame rip off

lmao

dry pike Dec 17, 2022, 6:46 PM

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The media player in Win11 is actually pretty good now. I should not be surprised but I am.

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:10 PM

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10700k I got for 120 USD

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:30 PM

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OMG they selling 2X16 crucial ballistix dual rank for under 100 on Amazon in US

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Limited-time deal: Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 BL2K16G32C16U4B (Black) https://a.co/d/2Ztimei

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These are Rev E die. I just got one and confirmed M16FE1.

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These will go over 4266 all day

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My aim is 4400+

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Now all I need is a 360mm aio and a lian li lancool 2 mesh performance

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Also I am maxing out an Asus z690, hynix mdie 13900k 3080ti custom loop build Monday.

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I'm actually hyped

pale quartz Dec 17, 2022, 10:33 PM

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all CRB 16GB kits are M16FE1

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:34 PM

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It's just so cheap.

pale quartz Dec 17, 2022, 10:34 PM

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they ceased production, will be to get rid of remaining stock

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:34 PM

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I am 100% not gonna bother finding 2x16 bdie for cheap.

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:34 PM

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pale quartz they ceased production, will be to get rid of remaining stock

Get them people.

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Ahhhhhh

pale quartz Dec 17, 2022, 10:35 PM

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ive already got 4 of them lol

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:35 PM

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Maybe I should horde ballistix too

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OMEGALUL

pale quartz Dec 17, 2022, 10:35 PM

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meh wont age well for price

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:35 PM

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They not temp sensitive so no need to point a fan on them.

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True.

pale quartz Dec 17, 2022, 10:36 PM

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just remember to adjust subtimings

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default for tRC and tFAW are terrible

nocturne drift Dec 17, 2022, 10:36 PM

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I know. I am using an evga dark z490 so I can do that in os with eleet

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I wanna see what Mr. Kingpin is all about.

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/13062074

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This is the score to beat.

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Damn that's high.

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I know my 2080ti kingpin can beat that in gpu score cause I came within 200 point with inferior cpu and single rank and without using classified tool. But 5.4ghz 10700k.....

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It's gonna be close.

gleaming peak Dec 18, 2022, 12:48 AM

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Brand new gpu

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From Gtx 1060 to rx 6800

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 12:58 AM

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Nice

coarse nimbus Dec 18, 2022, 1:15 AM

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what would be a good cpu to go with my 3070 ThinkEyes

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~~that i totally wont look into actually buying right now anyways~~

pale quartz Dec 18, 2022, 1:28 AM

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13600k

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 1:55 AM

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If u are at a Microcenter, there is a 12600k + mobo deal for 249 usd and 12700k + mobo deal for 311

coarse nimbus Dec 18, 2022, 1:57 AM

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nocturne drift If u are at a Microcenter, there is a 12600k + mobo deal for 249 usd and 12700k ...

the closest to me is like 2 hrs away RIP i hate it

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 1:57 AM

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I think it's worth.

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12700k+ z690 tuf D4 for 311

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U can't beat that

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/641917/intel-core-i7-12700k-alder-lake-36ghz-twelve-core-lga-1700-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included

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Or 12600k + z690 tuf d4 for 250

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/641920/intel-core-i5-12600k-alder-lake-37ghz-ten-core-lga-1700-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included

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It's sold out at my MC

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But maybe not urs

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Can't get anymore BS than this

toxic wigeon Dec 18, 2022, 2:54 AM

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@coarse nimbus Which side? Intel or AMD? 13600k would be good though what do you have at the moment?

cursive marten Dec 18, 2022, 2:57 AM

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Try to sync my music to my phone because it's the only thing i have that is both bluetooth and can play music
All of the music i put on there shows up as "Unknown Album"

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Genuinely why do i even fucking try

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why is this an annoying process

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WHY DOES ITUNES PICK SONGS FOR AUTOFILLING RANDOMLY BY DEFAULT

coarse nimbus Dec 18, 2022, 3:01 AM

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i got an 8600k, amd seemed like it was being the better option for a while there but is latest gen intel finally moar better? Hmm

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 3:15 AM

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coarse nimbus i got an 8600k, amd seemed like it was being the better option for a while there...

Yes, but seriously look at the MC deals, it will save u hundreds of dollars, plus 3070 isnt super powerful, a good 10th gen intel or zen3 is just fine.

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I especially recommend the 12700k combo. 8P cores, u can drop a 4080 in there for 1440p or 4k and u are still fine

coarse nimbus Dec 18, 2022, 3:28 AM

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~~lol im not about to replace the new to me gpu~~ CatBeSad

toxic wigeon Dec 18, 2022, 3:28 AM

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I'd personally recommend a 13700K or a 5800x3d.

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 3:31 AM

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coarse nimbus ~~lol im not about to replace the new to me gpu~~ <:CatBeSad:639317531991080972>

so yeah drive 2 hrs get 12700k combo, save hundreds of dollars

coarse nimbus Dec 18, 2022, 3:32 AM

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4 in total WearyOK

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 3:33 AM

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I mean still hundreds of dollars

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 3:50 AM

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dang MC raised the price of 13700k

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bruh

prime jasper Dec 18, 2022, 4:20 AM

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13600k was 350€ for a bit

whole stump Dec 18, 2022, 4:20 AM

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for bf5, i bought it on steam a while ago (not definitive), its 5 dollars on epic games for definitive version, so do you think i can buy it there and have transferred data?

elfin silo Dec 18, 2022, 8:34 AM

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Hello everyone, does anyone know about monitors? Which one to buy for $300-400?

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 9:26 AM

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elfin silo Hello everyone, does anyone know about monitors? Which one to buy for $300-400?

https://youtu.be/x6Hhe8EygdQ

toxic wigeon Dec 18, 2022, 9:51 AM

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elfin silo Hello everyone, does anyone know about monitors? Which one to buy for $300-400?

You US? If so. https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Certified-Protection-Displayport-Adjustable/dp/B08YMW8YY4?th=1

MSI G27CQ4, 27" Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 (QHD), VA, 165Hz, FreeS...

MSI G27CQ4, 27" Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 (QHD), VA, 165Hz, FreeSync, HDMI, Displayport, Tilt.

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I use this monitor and it is great.

elfin silo Dec 18, 2022, 10:01 AM

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Thanks haHAA

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 10:31 AM

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elfin silo Thanks<:haHAA:562440524741476381>

I won't recommend that monitor if you are just gaming focused. It has a VA panel and not IPS

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At least get 1440p 165hz or 1080p 240 hz ips panel depending what type of gamer u are.

molten flame Dec 18, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Wraith prism coolers for 7700 and 7900

nocturne drift Dec 18, 2022, 4:12 PM

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https://youtu.be/br9iFFqISgQ

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7700x vs 13600k.

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Bloodbath

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Amd even pushed the stock power draw too high making it not too much more efficient than 13600k at stock.

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But i2hard's 13600k is slightly better than my friend's

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Prob all silicone lottery

molten ibex Dec 18, 2022, 4:28 PM

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Hi, did anybody have a problem with not being able to turn the DX12 on in BF V? There is no such option...

jade rampart Dec 18, 2022, 9:55 PM

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y

prime jasper Dec 19, 2022, 2:44 AM

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elfin silo Hello everyone, does anyone know about monitors? Which one to buy for $300-400?

You can save money not buying expensive monitors, $170 price range will get you HD

prime jasper Dec 19, 2022, 2:44 AM

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coarse nimbus what would be a good cpu to go with my 3070 <:ThinkEyes:718281783262707752>

13600k is pretty W

dry pike Dec 19, 2022, 11:08 AM

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Aww, have a Samsung 960 Evo that is dying 😦 Oddly enough no SMART errors, just can't transfer files 95% of the time

prime jasper Dec 19, 2022, 11:33 AM

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Is it boot drive

dry pike Dec 19, 2022, 11:35 AM

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nah

dry pike Dec 19, 2022, 11:57 AM

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Still have had some odd system behavior so hope removing the misbehaving drive solves things.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:28 PM

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Is 200$ reasonable for an EVGA 2070? It’s used for mining but I figure it’s an upgrade over a 1070

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Which I can probably resell

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 2:36 PM

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grizzled apex Is 200$ reasonable for an EVGA 2070? It’s used for mining but I figure it’s an u...

if you want it to die in a year sure

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:38 PM

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grizzled apex Is 200$ reasonable for an EVGA 2070? It’s used for mining but I figure it’s an u...

Is it a super variant?

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:38 PM

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No

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And I’m going to check how long it’s been mined on

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If it’s more than 6 months, I’m gonna pass

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:39 PM

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I would pass.

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It's not a super good value and non super variant could have first revision micron gddr6 which is dogwater

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If it's super variant then maybe as those use Samsung Gddr6 and they don't degrade much or at all from mining.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:40 PM

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What about a 3060 that’s open box from Microcenter?

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:41 PM

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I mean if it's cheap why not.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:41 PM

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<300$

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:41 PM

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For 250-300 I suggest 2080 super or 2080ti for Nvidia side.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:41 PM

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My only concerns is that open box stuff from MC might be used for mining

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:41 PM

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6700xt or 6600xt for amd side.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:42 PM

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I’m avoiding AMD for driver reasons

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:42 PM

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grizzled apex My only concerns is that open box stuff from MC might be used for mining

3060 uses Samsung Gddr6 its fine.

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 2:42 PM

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AMD doesnt have driver issues lol

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:43 PM

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It’s more that I’m not much of an AMD gpu person as far as overall stability goes

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 2:43 PM

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im sorry but its just wrong to say theres something unstable

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its not

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:46 PM

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I mean I don't own amd card so idk, but I heard mixed reviews. Some say it's more stable than Nvidia. Some say it's garbage. Some say it's fine.

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Anyways for 300ish best bet is 2080 super, 2080ti or 3060, 3060ti

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:46 PM

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It’s more that I’m looking for an EVGA card if anything or something with a decent cooler

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For <250$

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:47 PM

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Why evga?

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:47 PM

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They tend to from what I’ve seen run much quieter and run cooler

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And have good warranties

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:48 PM

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One of the worst aib for 30 series. They also recently broke up with Nvidia, rendering their warranty useless.

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But 20 series sure. Evga is fine.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:48 PM

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I know that totally

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I’m mostly going used if possibly

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Trying to save some money going that route

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:49 PM

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2070 super, 2080 super. 3060ti is what I would try to get.

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If u are lucky u can get 2080ti

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:49 PM

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I thought the 2080 ti and 2080 super performance gap was minimal

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:50 PM

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Depend on the card.

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Higher end 2080ti vs 2080 super gap is HUGE

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 2:51 PM

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the difference between the super and ti is around 15% lol

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:51 PM

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Lower end 2080ti vs 2080 super gap is minimal

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:51 PM

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pale quartz the difference between the super and ti is around 15% lol

Yes, because power limit.

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 2:52 PM

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hes not going to be unlocking his

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:52 PM

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Yeah I would try to get. 2080 super, its almost as fast as 3060ti. Samsung Gddr6.

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And I see a bunch under 300 rn at my local market place.

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I would offer around 250 for those.

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No more.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:53 PM

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I’m going to use hardware swap

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I don’t trust Craigslist or FMP with my life

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:54 PM

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That could work too.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:54 PM

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That’s how I got the 1070

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:54 PM

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I recently got z490 dark

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From hws

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I use fb marketplace first cause it's local.

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And we always meet at public places.

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That's how I got most of my parts for 8 of my friend's build.

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My recent score is 10700k for 120

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:55 PM

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Dang

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:55 PM

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2080ti strix for 300 and 2080ti kingpin for 260

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 2:56 PM

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I’m honestly just looking for a decent card to run 2042 at around 80 fps at 1080p

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1070 is a good card but I’d rather have an rtx 2070 at a minimum for DLSS, rtx and nvidia reflex mostly

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 2:57 PM

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2070 super and 2080 super.

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Oh and if u are willing to spend more. 3060ti at around 300

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@pale quartz i am messing with a 13900k today on a custom loop.

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I wanna see the power draw OMEGALUL

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:04 PM

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grizzled apex I’m honestly just looking for a decent card to run 2042 at around 80 fps at 1080...

What's ur cpu?

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2042 very very cpu heavy.

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The newer update makes it as cpu heavy as BFV

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 3:07 PM

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5600g

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And I’ve found a fix for it that works so no issues there

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Oh OK.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 3:13 PM

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From what I’ve test though, the fox is exclusive to AMD cpus, not intel

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And only through origin

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:13 PM

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Funny enough I found bf5 a bit less CPU demanding than 2042.

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for obvious reasons though.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 3:13 PM

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I haven’t found a fix for steam

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:14 PM

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toxic wigeon Funny enough I found bf5 a bit less CPU demanding than 2042.

I might agree with you.

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2042 recently got more and more cpu demanding.

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I'm OK with that as the fps goes up and up

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:14 PM

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I have an idea WHY 2042 was from the start and even more now but it's not my expertise.

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Personally I'm not because it means everyone else suffers a bit more. I love getting more frames but at the same time everyone else is starting to suffer a bit more.

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The 12600 and 5600X is what I'd recommend at the minimum for this game to be honest.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:16 PM

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12600 is overkill

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:16 PM

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I did another thing on top of buying my 4090 pre-built. Bought a new subwoofer to replace my subs in my home theater. Decided to finally bite the bullet and buy a real sub. Tired of all these "budget" subs. I have 2x BIC Acoustech 12" subs. 350 watter RMS, 1,000 watt peak ported subs, but I just have been nothing but disappointed with them. Any sub in the $500 category or less pretty much are all the same. So I finally after research landed on the Monolith M-15 V2. 15" sub that claims can get down to 10 hz. 90 dB at 12.5 Hz and is a monster apparently. Everyone says its better than SVS subs, and they get nothing but praise.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:16 PM

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8700k 9900k and 10600k are also fine.

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OC ed 8700k

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 3:17 PM

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A 3600 runs this game fine from what I’ve seen

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Not many people OC. They work with the base level hardware. Those people I know are suffering from CPU latency as a result because the usage is so high.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 3:17 PM

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I think that’s the bare minimum though, a 3600 or a 8000 series cpu

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:18 PM

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12600k isnt overkill

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zen 2 runs like shit

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way is right

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:18 PM

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3600 is OK.

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It does the job.

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 3:18 PM

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For what it is, it does the job

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Yeah

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:18 PM

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That's what I can say about it.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Maybe true. I helped alot of people here when 2042 launched before we can't help people anymore. Alot of 3600 at 4.2ghz gets around 80 fps.

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I bet now it will push alot more.

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Launch was a mess

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:19 PM

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I'm personally more concerned about the CPU hitting 100%. If my 5600x hit 92 to 96% usage, How well would an older CPU hold up.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:20 PM

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Yeah really need at least 6 cores 12 threads.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:20 PM

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I'll give credit to my girl. The 5600x puts up a good fight.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:20 PM

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Eh, I kind of disagree. If you disable SMT on any ZEN CPU, they perform so much better in most cases.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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SMT?

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Simultaneous Multi Threading

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Like hyper threading for Intel

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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You can do it via Ryzen Master software

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pretty stout little tool

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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If u only have 6c 12t I think it will perform much worse in 2042

cursive marten Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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toxic wigeon SMT?

Shin Migami Tensei, obviously.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:21 PM

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5900x or smth sure.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:22 PM

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I bet you will get less stuttering and less issues with SMT disabled even with just a 6c

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BF 2042 isn't gonna use anymore than 6c anyway

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Realistically 4 cores

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:22 PM

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I have heard this games likes hard cores.

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Hard cores?

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Eight cores.

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LOL.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:22 PM

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cursive marten Shin Migami Tensei, obviously.

CursedCatPointing

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:22 PM

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I might have to see. My cpu usage goes to 60% on a 10 core 20 threads

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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https://www.techspot.com/article/2370-battlefield-cpu-128-multiplayer/#:~:text=Battlefield 2042 utilizes 8 cores,the cores essentially did nothing.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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I mean people have stuff in the background. Discord youtube.

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Bloatware.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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I sit from 60 to 80% usage.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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The article showed that even with a 5900x, only half the cores were being utilized

cursive marten Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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Hard cores, as opposed to Soft Cores.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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With my x3d.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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small zinc The article showed that even with a 5900x, only half the cores were being utiliz...

So 6

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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6 with maybe 30% utlilization

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:23 PM

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cursive marten Hard cores, as opposed to Soft Cores.

AMD's solution to intels P and E cores.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:24 PM

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The only game that I've found so far that actually takes advantage of SMT is Call of Duty for some reason. Must be something in the modified ID Tech 6 engine they did.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:24 PM

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That reminds me.

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What's the deal with P and E cores, What makes them so special?

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:24 PM

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With SMT disabled, it actually runs worse. Every other game runs infinitely better.

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E cores is 100% pointless for gaming

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Just know that.

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That's why the I7 and I9 make zero difference in gaming benchmarks

cursive marten Dec 19, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Don’t know.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:25 PM

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It's more for production software.

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CAD, rendering software etc.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Not completely zero.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Heard the next intel CPU's will have even less P cores than the current gen one.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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i9 has more cache

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Cache but that's pretty much it.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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I like 13th gen e cores.

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Why can't intel just shove a bunch of P cores into their CPU's. Why does it have to a mix?

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:26 PM

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12th gen e cores are e waste cores.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Sure, has more cache. But spending another $170-$200 bucks for the I9 for just gaming and get less than 5% performance increase is pretty much a waste of money. Better off getting a better M2 drive or spending that on a better GPU.

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:27 PM

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Because they don't rely on tsmc superior node and techtubers uses cinebench as one of the most important test.

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:27 PM

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small zinc The article showed that even with a 5900x, only half the cores were being utiliz...

this is to do with CCDs

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it isnt to do with SMT

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 3:28 PM

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small zinc Sure, has more cache. But spending another $170-$200 bucks for the I9 for just g...

True. 13700k I want.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:28 PM

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pale quartz this is to do with CCDs

No I realize this. My point is that a 6c CPU is fine for BF 2042. Historically SMT disabled does increase performance in quite a few games

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:28 PM

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switching off SMT on zen is a big no no, the 5900x has 2 CCD's with a penalty which is why it "performs better"

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:28 PM

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I was wondering about the quality of the cores in a CPU a few weeks ago which it what lead me to asking Deco are the cores in a higher CPU are of a different quality.

Is it possible to do an I7/R7 which just high(er) quality cores for a balance?

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:28 PM

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no lol

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they are entirely different architectures

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and its a waste of power for nothing

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:29 PM

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Yeah I had that in mind as well. Am3 and am4 are different in quality, their cores being more of the same.

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:29 PM

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they arent

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AM3 doesnt use the zen architecture

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the core architectures are entirely different

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:30 PM

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I mean as in a 5000 series CPU between a 5600x and 5900x being more of the same within the same gen.

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:30 PM

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theyre still not the same

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the 5600x CCX bins are not the same as the 5900x for voltage and peak power because it literally cant it run it stable without crashing

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thats why different numbers are categorised in a specific way

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Right. It's why I asked you a few weeks ago about that with the cores if they're of a higher quality or not which was a no.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:32 PM

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My 3900x still has 2x CCX's. SMT disabled works wonders

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:32 PM

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I have an idea that CPU's are specifically done so they can handle what they need with the voltage as you mention.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Overclocking CPU's is stupid. It's pointless unless your GPU is bottlenecked. OC'ing a CPU does nothing for you in real world applications (gaming)

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it's only for those that like to see their E-penis' grow in synthetic benchmarks

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:34 PM

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I think it's fine getting a tiny bit out of your CPU's life before you upgrade but really, I don't see the harm of it.

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:35 PM

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small zinc My 3900x still has 2x CCX's. SMT disabled works wonders

every 9+ series CPU has 2+ CCX's

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zen 3 is 8 cores per CCX and zen 2 is 4

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 3:36 PM

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toxic wigeon Right. It's why I asked you a few weeks ago about that with the cores if they're...

i think you misconfused what i was saying, binning is used to determine the quality of silicon

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a 5900/5950x will have higher quality binned cores because it needs it to meet the target specification that, the CPU requires, the 5600x contains lesser quality bins which do meet the efficiency requirements of the 5900x/5800x, etc

toxic wigeon Dec 19, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Alright alright.

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 4:06 PM

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I still think the 3800/5800/7800 are still "better" CPU's in my opinion, at least pertaining to gaming because of only having one CCX

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 4:25 PM

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~~all I know is my 5800h handles this game well~~

small zinc Dec 19, 2022, 4:27 PM

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grizzled apex ~~all I know is my 5800h handles this game well~~

Doesn't handle the game well?

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lol

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 4:43 PM

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No, it does

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37% cpu usage in menus

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60% at max

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With the fix

pale quartz Dec 19, 2022, 5:36 PM

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that's not handling it well

grizzled apex Dec 19, 2022, 6:35 PM

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It was at 100% before

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Asus won ddr5

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6666 cl32 rn on a 4 dim board.

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Over 40k in cinebench r23 13900kf

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Over 24k in timespy cpu with no ram tune

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Crazy

nocturne drift Dec 19, 2022, 10:50 PM

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Over 26k cpu score in timespy!

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At only 5.6ghz all P core drawing 30w less than stock

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💀💀💀

nocturne drift Dec 20, 2022, 12:19 AM

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33715085

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World #3 13900kf + 3080ti with daily azz settings.

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Asus board and Hynix m die is nuts.

molten flame Dec 20, 2022, 8:28 AM

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Bundling gaming chairs with RTX 4080

nocturne drift Dec 20, 2022, 8:46 AM

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🤣

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https://amdfanstore.com/amd-custom-gaming-chair-red/

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this tho

molten flame Dec 20, 2022, 2:17 PM

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AMD prices gaming chair at $600

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So Nvidia chair would be $1000 leo

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toxic wigeon Dec 20, 2022, 4:02 PM

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I reckon they did the 4080 so more people would buy the 4090.

pale quartz Dec 20, 2022, 4:08 PM

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greencheck

toxic wigeon Dec 20, 2022, 4:11 PM

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I'd unrionically buy a 4080 if it didn't cost what it did.

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But I have a 3080 so I'm set.

quick locust Dec 20, 2022, 4:29 PM

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toxic wigeon I reckon they did the 4080 so more people would buy the 4090.

yeah same with 7900xt and 7900xtx lol