yes/no depends on the region
#technology
pale quartz
prime jasper
Liquid Devil prolly
dusk forge
midnight crypt
those are totally fine temperatures
however it's not fine if it runs at those temps at idle
molten flame
6800XT matches 3090Ti in MW2
Nvidia title but AMD is better optimized
Kinda like BF5 
nocturne drift
Its a nvidia title?
nocturne drift
so when you open mw2, nvidia logo pops up along with other logos?
molten flame
Pretty sure but I don't have the game yet
nocturne drift
bruh u cant just say stuff without any basis lol
I wish I can post picture here lol to show how much of a joke 4080 16gb is
dry pike
send a link, then perhaps a person with perms will repost it 🙂
prime jasper
6800XT matches 3090Ti in MW2
MWII or MW2
prolly MWII
i don't remember seeing nvidia logo when played the beta
it had DLSS and FSR
it's also bundled with intel processors
maybe its intel title 
prime jasper
FSR works well in it
nocturne drift
Win11 is faster lol
Even people in OC discord uses win11 for records.
U are as accurate as Jayztwocents
nocturne drift
Didn't they test win11 on ryzen?
Also I was faster on win11 on 10th gen not even p core e core
But sticking to win10 is fine.
Win11 do get more bugs
molten flame
Win11 having Google Play app integration is neat
Can you play android games on PC now?
nocturne drift
no clue :C
prime jasper
molten flame
Are 8GB DIMMs of DDR5 slower than 16GB DIMMs?
molten flame
Why is it like that
https://videocardz.com/newz/galax-geforce-rtx-4090-has-been-overclocked-to-3-7-ghz-with-ln2 @nocturne drift
Hitting RDNA3's rumored clocks with LN2
nocturne drift
Why is it like that
u can listen to this lovely man talk about this
or look at micron data sheets
should be used for ur platform cant even stabilize over 3000 mhz
prime jasper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhwd6UgGVk4 11 hours 29 minutes until its live
nocturne drift
I think I will listen to this at work
molten flame
candid flame
U are as accurate as Jayztwocents
has he spouted some insane rants recently?
candid flame
Last time I saw anything Jayztwocents he was malding at people on twitter asking him for free stuff
nocturne drift
has he spouted some insane rants recently?
isnt that his whole channel?
I stopped watching him when he said 11900k oc better than 10900k
molten flame
nocturne drift
I was like yeah this guy is done
I got 4533mhz ram I turn on xmp and wont work, rant
bruh
nocturne drift
LOL
candid flame
yeah, he's considering adding pay-to-play video contents
pale quartz
Hey also. Does display port 1.2 do 1440p 165 HZ?
no 144hz only
pale quartz
Win11 having Google Play app integration is neat
it doesn't have Google play integration, it includes support for running APKs - the binary for Google play isn't used as it uses Amazon
if you want to use Google play you'll need to manually set it up yourself
quick locust
molten flame
Supposedly 2nd gen Infinity Cache for RX 7000 series is a major overhaul over the current IC on RX 6000 series
Also 7900 XTX with 150% more shader cores, 80% more memory bandwidth, 8GB more VRAM than 6950 XT
quick locust
Dag
molten flame
Feel like Ray-tracing will be the only argument to have a RTX 4000 series GPU lol
molten flame
Leak about Navi 32 as well (either the RX 7800 XT or 7700 XT) can compete with RTX 4090 in 1440p/1080p (no Ray-tracing)
candid flame
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5407
Nvidia 526.61 hotfix driver
it doesn't show up on Geforce experience
molten flame
Yeah stupid they make you go to a customer service website to get it
molten flame
It can happen on RDNA4
Chiplets make that possible within a power budget
Just add more MCDs to increase bus width
dry pike
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5407
Nvidia 526.61 hotfix dr...
Don't play MWII, don't use VTube Studio and my GPU doesn't get stuck in P0 state. So no need here, but good shout out.
ivory creek
if i do get a rtx 3090 today should i use DDU to uninstall my current nvidia drivers used for my gtx 1070 before i insert the new card or can i keep them since they're both nvidia?
quick locust
quite an upgrade
dry pike
if i do get a rtx 3090 today should i use DDU to uninstall my current nvidia dri...
I would.
Otherwise, if something crashes or acts weird you will always wonder if it's because of a lack of DDU.
ivory creek
true, thanks
pale quartz
if i do get a rtx 3090 today should i use DDU to uninstall my current nvidia dri...
you cannot it won't boot, the drivers read the GPU architecture the card is based on during installation so it won't work if you just swap in the card
midnight crypt
theres an option in DDU if you want to swap gpus
nocturne drift
Leak about Navi 32 as well (either the RX 7800 XT or 7700 XT) can compete with R...
These leaks are actually comical.
My fav is someone saying 7600XT will beat a 6900XT
I am now gonna read Kris G's leaks for comedy purposes
molten flame
molten flame
I am now gonna read Kris G's leaks for comedy purposes
I wouldn't doubt that 256-bit Navi 32 could compete with RTX 4090 in FHD/QHD without RT
nocturne drift
I wouldn't doubt that 256-bit Navi 32 could compete with RTX 4090 in FHD/QHD wit...
Dude AMD announcement is in 3 hours man
Just look at that.
Then you can brag about rdna 3 using amd biased slides. Way better than leaks
You can also use game historically run better on amd to bash Nvidia.
That's better than leaks.
You can even post amd biased slides and circle the improvements over Nvidia. At least those have somewhat "credible" source.
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prime jasper
watching the RDNA3 stream
6nm memory cache die
58 billion transistors
+54% performance per watt
quick locust
4090 has 76,3B
prime jasper
does it use chiplet tho
quick locust
no
prime jasper
much faster memory bandwidth afaik
candid flame
8k gaming here we go 
quick locust
candid flame
it's gonna be so fucking expensive
prime jasper
7900XT is 300W
candid flame
lmao
prime jasper
nvidia power adaptor roast
prime jasper
8k UHD ultra wide from Samsung
more fsr games
can play apex at 300fps
thats engine cap
at 4k
ac dawn of raganrok 96fps at 8k
we need new monitors guys
candid flame
lmao, Halo Infinite's getting ray tracing
quick locust
halo with RT for the 3 people that play it
candid flame
kek
pale quartz
cc
candid flame
they keep roasting nvidia lmao
they are roasting Gforce Experience's registration and log-in requirements
bruh
prime jasper
amd prebuilds
candid flame
guy baited me with laptop and brought out the prebuilt wtf
molten flame
nocturne drift
What I predicted is 100% right
Amd undercutting Nvidia
@molten flame where is the rumored 3.7ghz on air and beating 4090?
I know amd did an awesome job with pricing.
But yall rumors needs to chill lol
prime jasper
they are not targeting 4090
there is always people who buy that
but its marginal compared to people who buy gpu around 1000 dollars/whatever
or lower
molten flame
nocturne drift
they are not targeting 4090
Exactly. So I don't wanna hear leaks of 7800XTXHTX beats 4090 muhahah 3.7ghz on air
molten flame
7900XTX3D 1024 times faster than 4090
prime jasper
its basically is x3d already
nocturne drift
I think they can do 2.7 easily?
pale quartz
2.5
pale quartz
2.7 on RDNA2 isnt common except on the 6900xt
nocturne drift
Oh really?
molten flame
I have 6800 non-XT at 2.8 GHz 😈
pale quartz
7900xt probably around 2.7
molten flame
pale quartz
XTX are stock unlocked for the multiplier on RDNA, so makes sense why they're adding it to the default lineup
they OC very well on 2, MCM on 3 will limit it admittedly but won't be noticeable
molten flame
wonder if Navi 32 announcement is in Dec/Jan
pale quartz
definitely not lol n31 isn't finished for announcements
nocturne drift
U need to fix ur ram speed first
prime jasper
nocturne drift
What does [up to] mean?
prime jasper
i got timed out posting the text xD
nocturne drift
Wha
fallen harbor
guiiiise
I got a question
I have a tiny m2 ssd
I didn't know they existed in this size
I knew the rectangular m2's
but this one is a square m2
so it's like, at least half the size
I have a motherboard with m2 support but it clearly was designed for the longer, rectangular m2's
because of the screw slot
i wouldn't be able to put this m2 with a screw on this motherboard
I only need to reformat it, does it work if I just put it in the slot without the screw?
or is it not a good idea?
pale quartz
I only need to reformat it, does it work if I just put it in the slot without th...
no, the screw is for the key mount, it will come loose and disconnect without it
fallen harbor
oh ú__ù
well, thanks
is it normal for desktop motherboards to not be compatible with these tiny ones?
and only support the rectangle ones?
pale quartz
yes
fallen harbor
oo ic
prime jasper
I only need to reformat it, does it work if I just put it in the slot without th...
i had rectangular m2 ssd and i put it without the screw and it worked fine all along
or u can maybe try taping it down or putting something on it
small zinc
That 7900xtx reveal though
RIP nvidia
The 4080 is already dead on arrival for sure. The 4090 is fucked on price.
molten flame
4080 price more ridiculous than 4090
small zinc
4090 Price isn't going to work anymore though
Not when AMD just shit all over it.
Even if the 4090 still outperforms it and I suspect it may still, at least on a Raytracing level, as long as AMD can come within even 10%, the 4090 will die unless Nvidia reduces the price.
We can safely assume the 7900xtx handily outperforms a 4080 with ease. And the 4080 is $1200 MSRP
lofty light
After the NVIDIA power connectors that seems almost quaint
cursive marten
will probably have the added benefit of not catching on fire
cursive marten
still the fact that it happened at all is a problem
prime jasper
And works fine without adapter
4090 is performance king of this generation
If you have the money
People keep paying for nvidia anyway
Even with disasters happening
toxic wigeon
4090 is fucked.
It might be the definition of pumping tonnes of power for the sake of performance but it's crazy.
prime jasper
it's not even too crazy
3090 TI takes ton of power while its much slower
much higher performance with same amount of power draw as 3090 Ti
my 3070 is drawing about 220 watts and not delivering even the half of that performance
so its not really crazy at all
Its more about what nvidia is doing
At least for me
like ignoring the warnings on the power adaptor and the exclusive tech even on their own hardware
nocturne drift
Yeah 4090 is fine. I am testing the zotac one at work today.
So far the people who owns 4090 at the Microcenter discord all reached 3ghz +
Low quality cable is a big L tho
We get amd fans saying it's gonna burn the house down
4080 is no excuse tho, yes the 16gb one, absolute jokes
no one should get that
molten flame
4080 is like 20-30% faster than 3090Ti
prime jasper
https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/10944080013843-NVIDIA-DLSS-AMD-FSR-and-DirectX-Ray-Tracing-Improvements-in-Forza-Horizon-5 fsr 2.2 and dlss, dlaa coming next week
molten flame
FSR 2.2 
nocturne drift
That's good.
Amd has been sponsoring alot of streamers recently
They finally wanna counter Nvidia
nocturne drift
4080 is like 20-30% faster than 3090Ti
Prob even less.
It's baffling how much % of Cuda core they cut from 4090 to 4080
molten flame
Yeah they should of done cut-down AD102 with 320-bit bus for 4080 especially at that $1200 price lmao
256-bit 4080 16GB should be $800 max
RTX 2000/3000 owners can't use DLSS 3 but can use AMD's FSR 3
molten flame
FSR 3 supposedly uses "fake frames" like DLSS 3
prime jasper
RDNA 3 has AI acceleration
toxic wigeon
RTX 2000/3000 owners can't use DLSS 3 but can use AMD's FSR 3
Does FSR work best on AMD or is it generally just as effective on both?
prime jasper
FSR gives better frames than dlss in MWII
molten flame
Nvidia performs better with FSR 2 than AMD does
But different story with RX 7000 series GPUs
toxic wigeon
I remember crafter using fsr during the mw2 and preferring it because it just looks better.
molten flame
It can in some games
toxic wigeon
Yeah it's wholly dependant.
molten flame
I think the RX 7800 and 7700 series will share the same Navi 32 chip
I could see 7800 having full 256-bit and 7700 being cut-down with 192-bit
molten flame
7900XT cheaper than 6900XT MSRP 
pale quartz
Does FSR work best on AMD or is it generally just as effective on both?
it's a spatial upscaler and isn't specific to any vendor, there is hardware acceleration coming in future AMD GPUs for FSR though to increase performance
nocturne drift
7900XT cheaper than 6900XT MSRP <:ThinkEyes:718281783262707752>
isnt it the same?
but yeah overall good job amd, awesome pricing, not competing 4090 at performance crown in general. basically what I predicted
common sense > rumors and leaks, always
prime jasper
they will likely release 7950 etc later tho
nocturne drift
yeah hopefully that can perform on par to 4090
prime jasper
or 7970 for nostalgia purposes
prime jasper
new youtube ambient mode
molten flame
prime jasper
it was 720p
actually its not ambient mode, its still as high without it
it might be glitch as temps dont rise at all
and power usage stays at 47W
yeah its glitch on task manager
afterburner shows few % usage
prime jasper
ambient mode is 10% usage in afterburner
max
also new task manager dont show gpu usage here ??
so unnecessary change
was actually usable to see if some crap process is using gpu
like xbox app did sometimes lol
nvm
i found it
someone decided it has to be hidden by default
and the right click menu dont even work on certain parts of the app
quick locust
comments to this lol
nocturne drift
toxic wigeon
naive patio
comments to this lol
NOOOOOO
molten flame
molten flame
candid flame
Guys, can I use PCIe 4 ssd with a gen 3 slot?
there would be a bottleneck but it would still work, right?
quick locust
Yes it'll work, PCIe is backwards compatible
candid flame
ye I figured, thanks. Anyways, got a 980 1tb for cheap, so I'm sticking with gen 3 for now
now I have to wait at least 12 days to receive it
Not buying from Amazon = pain
quick locust
Amazon takes a while too for me
Cause it has to ship from another country where local stores can just pack and send same day
candid flame
amazon has local stock here (poland) so it's usually delivery next day
candid flame
future, future, future proof
cursive marten
That must mean that it could run a 1080p display at over 1000hz
toxic wigeon
It's funny that the 7900xt is 100 dollars cheaper than the 6900xt.
Like shit man.
That's an actual stab at Nvidia.
pale quartz
it's MCM, production costs are cheaper
pale quartz
That must mean that it could run a 1080p display at over 1000hz
depends on the game but yeah it will be possible
valorant will 90% be achievable
cursive marten
depends on the game but yeah it will be possible
Well I think it’d depend on the display. I donno if 1000hz 1080p screens will ever exist.
toxic wigeon
That's kind of a waste at that point.
toxic wigeon
I wonder if freethy will gain an extra 250 frames out of MW19 with an xtx.
cursive marten
Probably
pale quartz
definitely not lol
toxic wigeon
Considering what he did with that 720p into 1440p conversion I bet.
pale quartz
yeah you can make any game look Garbo and say it's "extra performance"
it's still 720p
toxic wigeon
The whole point of the thing was to lower input latency even further.
Fun experiment.
toxic wigeon
If I knew what you knew I'd straight up ask him in his streams about it.
Since I was there seeing him tweak it but I don't understand anything so it went over my head.
pale quartz
higher framerates have a latency penalty due to the processing delays with the monitors base refresh rate
which is why all this 500 FPS bs with people with 144hz monitors is meaningless
him included
toxic wigeon
Don't think the frame rate was the primary point though but it was a really funny number to see spike up.
Hit 600 alone and sat on 540 and didn't need gsync.
toxic wigeon
True and his primary was concern was latency. Probably just wanted to mess around with it anyways.
dry pike
These new AMD cards are great news for Nvidia fans. Now finally Nvidia might be pressured to not fuck over the customers with their pricing.
toxic wigeon
What's your res?
ivory creek
my monitor is 4k
if thats what youre asking
i run the game in high settings 4k and get 60fps in orbital atleast
no raytracing tho
ivory creek
ye rtx 3090 seem to deliver
toxic wigeon
You can stretch out a bit more out of it by reducing some of the settings and that.
I have a 3080 and I run a high to medium mix.
ivory creek
cool
ye i could rise the texture quality and filtering
and lower some effect
idk
i can only use one of my monitors tho since the second one is dvi
rip
toxic wigeon
What's your CPU?
ivory creek
ryzen 9 3900x
toxic wigeon
Ahhhh.
candid flame
dvi enjoyer
dry pike
4K is where DLSS really starts to make sense
toxic wigeon
When did you get that 3900x?
dry pike
and 3900X is a great CPU but the low single core performance is bottlenecking the GPU here
toxic wigeon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850376380822323230/1036510749037695016/Screenshot_1268.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850376380822323230/1036510749532618795/Screenshot_1269.png
AH.
That's fair.
You literally got the full thing.
ivory creek
ye i think i made a fair deal
i was thinking about withing for maybe 4060 ti or get this one
or 4070
but who knows when they will arrive
toxic wigeon
What time frame are you thinking you'll replace that CPU?
ivory creek
i only play at 60hz so i dont need more than i have now i think
but if i do ill get a 5800x3d
if it cant push 60 anymore
toxic wigeon
That's fair.
nocturne drift
Check gpu usage if 2042 is bottleneck ing gpu
terse stirrup
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prime jasper
if you drop resolution enough, possibly
and quality settings
yikes
if 7900 xt/x is msrp + vat it's gonna be so much better value
VAT on xtx would be 240€ with 24%
3rd part model likely adds around 100€ or more tho
idk if i can buy the reference here
nocturne drift
EU prices are mad
nocturne drift
How about tech power up performance
This launch should tell you all leakers and rumors are a joke.
Can't believe people actually quote and believe them.
Also isn't this test on a 5800X or smth?
Totally not cpu bottlenecked lol
molten flame
Well it's no surprise 7900XTX falls like 10% short of the 4090 at worst
7900XTX gonna be faster at resolutions that PC gamers actually use (anything below 4K)
molten flame
At lower resolutions
nocturne drift
Sorry Kris this launch made all ur speculation wrong.
You should use logic over leaks and rumors too
The leaker and rumor even know they are wrong.
At least he admit it. Unlike people now use value and digs to cover up their rumor and leak were completely off.
molten flame
Sorry Kris this launch made all ur speculation wrong.
All speculations?
Seems like only info I got wrong about 7900XTX is clocks and ray-tracing
nocturne drift
And performance
So basically everything?
Leak about Navi 32 as well (either the RX 7800 XT or 7700 XT) can compete with RTX 4090 in 1440p/1080p (no Ray-tracing) this is from u hours before rdna 3 announcement
I read ur leaks as comedy purposes man
prime jasper
Bro how do I play this game 🗿
It literally won't even start because I apparently have 2 versions installed
molten flame
Leak about Navi 32 as well (either the RX 7800 XT or 7700 XT) can compete with R...
It will because all current CPUs bottleneck the 4090 even at 4K
nocturne drift
It will because all current CPUs bottleneck the 4090 even at 4K
in esports game
I just saw my friend do a benchmark run on 2077 and watchdog legion on 4090 + 5800X 3D
and I am testing a 4090 myself next week on a 13th gen cpu using hynix m die on z690 hero asus
nocturne drift
thats good!
molten flame
Damn
nocturne drift
its 329 here too
molten flame
When 7000X3D comes out 5800X3D will be $250
Intel can sell Alder/Raptor-lake real low if they want to
Intel 7 node (10nm) doesn't cost much
prime jasper
When 7000X3D comes out 5800X3D will be $250
it will be out of stock
these are last shipments likely
some smaller shipments might come to some retailers later but that's it
i know one store here are getting shipments now with hundreds of them and i suspect they throw it in black friday sale
high end gpu prices are still depressing here tho
candid flame
molten flame
[AMD FSR 3] is not a reaction or a quick thing [to DLSS3], it is absolutely something we have been working on for a while. Why is it taking a little bit longer for it come out, that you’d probably hoped for? The key thing to remember about FSR is the FSR philosophy and FSR until now did not just work on RDNA2 or RDNA1 they work on other generations of AMD graphics cards. They also work on competitors graphics cards. It is exponentioally harder than if we just made it work on RDNA3. […] We really do want to work on more than just RDNA3.
- Frank Azor, AMD
dry pike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFEnTjl1AxU
posted this a while back too
415v at 32Amps makes card go wroom wroom
That is 13.280 watts for those that are curious 😄
prime jasper
which manufacturer will fuck up their 7900 cooler
asus tuf was crap on 5700xt
it had memory temps going 105C
they eventually released EVO model
i actually had the card but returned
but managed to get another bad one
(gigabyte gaming oc)
toxic wigeon
Is a solid K really that bad for a high end card?
pale quartz
Is a solid K really that bad for a high end card?
nope lol
dunno where you heard that from, it's good
toxic wigeon
Yeah I'm aware its a decent price.
pale quartz
well what is it?
short pawn
best amd driver currently other than 22.10.2 whlq?
pale quartz
best amd driver currently other than 22.10.2 whlq?
10.3 works fine
short pawn
10.3 works fine
aright
ivory creek
earlier with a gtx 1070 i was like if only i get to play without lag things will be awesome. now that i got a rtx 3090 i still dont feel like playing and am just bored
rip
young shore
This is what we call growing up
Once you got the funds to support your hobby you lose interest
molten flame
prime jasper
prime jasper
X3D basically best choice paired with cl14 memory
if you can find 3600Mhz CL14 tho
because i can't
nocturne drift
if you can find 3600Mhz CL14 tho
why?
ram speed doesnt scale with 5800X 3D well
Its more important to get 3600 CL14 on Zen3 or Intel
prime jasper
It gives better fps as shown in the video
12 game average @ 1440p
its not much but still
and games like far cry 6 really likes it
pale quartz
it doesn't scale with frequency it will scale with latency
much like any other Zen 3 part
nocturne drift
Just get a 3200 CL14 kit
And do 3600 cl14
Basically everyone will do that
Samsung b die
nocturne drift
3-4% gain on 5800X3D from xmp to max tune, 16%+ gain on 12th gen D4, 12%+ gain on 12th gen D5 and 10%+ gain on zen3
nocturne drift
All is CL16
😭
Not even 3200 cl14?
That's big oof
Just get 3600 cl16 I gurantee it won't make the difference
If u want to see real performance increase by somewhat big margin u have to do subtiming.
Stock 3600 cl14 vs cl16 performance difference won't be big
Esp 5800X 3D
nocturne drift
and games like far cry 6 really likes it
Also it's DR vs SR
My friends 28 DR 3000 beat my 28 SR 3600 cl14 bdie in timespy.
Why is Hub testing DR vs SR? LOL
This is why I he is no longer a reliable source for me
Here you can see my friend tested 3000mhz dual rank vs 3600 cl14 xmp single rank. And 3000 dual rank won.
However zen3 and Intel 11+ gen are more sensitive to ram speed cause its related to memory controller speed
As long as u get 3600 ur generally fine
Most 2X16 are Dual rank
pale quartz
Why is Hub testing DR vs SR? LOL
it's about value, not performance
the discrepancy is done to show the differential in total platform cost
nocturne drift
Oh.
Well just get 3600 cl16 dual rank
Won't lose to 3600 cl14 dual rank by much, esp if you are on 5800X 3D
pale quartz
the initial screenshots were pretty dumb to post to begin with tbh
nocturne drift
Yeah I was confused
If you get bdie or cl14 and not really ocing it much, kinda not worth price to performance.
Untuned bdie ain't much in term of performance
I swapped my 2X8 single rank bdie to 2X16 dual rank Cdie permanently till my friend needs those on his build
I'd pair 5800X3D with the cheapest 3600 CL18 2x16 ram
Enable docp xmp and ur gaming
Ezpz
Rog strix 2080ti unleashed
Bummer it's not validated cause I am using the newest Nvidia hotfix driver lol
prime jasper
Last time i enabled xmp on ryzen build i had to clear cmos as it didn't post after
molten flame
XMP worked on my last build with B350 and Ryzen 1600AF
But not on 5600G and X570
toxic wigeon
Makes a bit of sense with those results. Mostly on gaming.
prime jasper
7950x don't make sense on gaming tho 
toxic wigeon
No really?
prime jasper
Yes
molten flame
Has any tests been done on the iGPU for Zen 4
Wonder if RDNA2 with DDR5 and only 2CU can match my Vega iGPU with 7CU and DDR4
nocturne drift
Wow. This leak means Navi 32 can almost catch up to Ada lovelace clockspeed
Watching leakers doing apology video is the funniest thing
candid flame
goddamn it lol I ordered an ssd from a polish site and they are shipping it from the US for some reasons
gonna take 10 more days for it to arrive
nocturne drift
Oof
pale quartz
lol this is such bull
the cards are purposely conservative on power for efficiency reasons there is no "thing that needs fixing"
prime jasper
so XeSS is actually different tech when it runs on intel hardware
that's why its faster
when using on ARC
quick locust
when using on ARC
Yep, XMX and slightly different algorithm
molten flame
nocturne drift
Gonna be trash
prime jasper
its way too expensive
molten flame
If 4080 is >30% faster than 3080 then it's >30% slower than 4090
7900XT will eat it alive
3080 and 3090 performance were too close but now 4080 and 4090 are too far apart
nocturne drift
7900XT will eat it alive
Nah I think 7900XTX will be around 30% slower than 4090 and 4080 will be around 40% slower
So 7900XTX should be 10ish % faster than 4080.
Not really eating it alive but basically 4080 is trash value
The thing I am afraid of is prob gonna happen. 4090 basically destroys the entire amd lineup making Nvidia not change on pricing and enables them to charge whatever they want.
toxic wigeon
The one thing that will be interesting to see is how much performance difference will both cards have when using the same amount of power.
At the same resolution.
Though the obvious answer is that the 4090 is a 4K card.
Using it on anything lower will be a waste.
nocturne drift
The thing is tho 4090 doesn't draw much power when doing traditional raster.
Frame chasers, I know he is abit of a meme but his numbers are right tested 6-7? 4090s and they all drew below 400w in 4K
Prob them rt cores etc sucking that extra power when used.
All 3ghz plus as well and +1000 on mem
My 3090 draws more power than that in shadow of war 1080p 
My session today drew 438.3w and that's at 950mv at 1965mhz +1028 on mem
I think 4090 would be a great 1440p 240hz plus card. Prob need a maxed out zen4, intel 12/13th gen to pair.
That new Asus 1440p 360hz monotor just got reviewed by optimum tech and its like best in everything
molten flame
4090 gets bottlenecked at 4K so idk why 1440p would be a good option
Also if 7900XTX beats 4090 in assassin's creed then it's not 30% slower than 4090
nocturne drift
Also if 7900XTX beats 4090 in assassin's creed then it's not 30% slower than 409...
How? Where do you get these numbers from lol
No one compared 4090 vs 7900xtx yet.
molten flame
Taken from both Nvidia's and AMD's own benchmarks of AC odyssey
toxic wigeon
Also did say if.
nocturne drift
OK true. Big if.
Of course both Nvidia and AMD will cherry pick games in their favor. Always use logic and indepent reviews.
This is just 
Good on these people to actually apologize
molten flame
7800XT 256-bit and 8192 stream processors max
toxic wigeon
I wonder how long the 4090 will last on 1440p despite the bottle necks lol.
nocturne drift
Depends on the game really.
And how far cpu development goes.
No way it's a cpu bottleneck in heavy single player games, esp with rtx
And even in bf 2042 my 10850k can max out a 3090 at max settingz no rtx in 1080p
molten flame
fallen harbor
hello
aren't there celeron models without integrated graphics?
like the i3/5/7 f models
lofty light
I doubt it
Celeron are the super budget ones
Very rarely would you even have a dedicated GPU with them with how cheap they are
prime jasper
Celeron usually has igpu
Not much you can do with it but still
Like Celeron G5905 has UHD 610 Graphics
lofty light
Not much you can do with the CPU either
molten flame
I played it on Fx-8320 and GTX 770 4GB
Then went to i5-4590K @5.2GHz after that
Huge jump
copper marsh
How can i make battlefield 1 from origin work on steam?
candid flame
copper marsh
Its the only way? so i cant just ad a code or something from origin
candid flame
nope
copper marsh
why? they made it work with apex, tho it was the other way around i guess
wait, it actuelly was the same
So if i start BF1 as a none-steam game will it still boot up origin?
molten flame
prime jasper
why? they made it work with apex, tho it was the other way around i guess
Apex is free to play, you don't need license for it
copper marsh
Apex is free to play, you don't need license for it
but you could connect your account and keep your skins and legends
candid flame
microsoft invited me to their tech summit, so they could yap about microsoft cloud
hey, free lunch
lofty light
but you could connect your account and keep your skins and legends
You can do the same with BF1 but you need to purchase it again in steam
That's why Apex being free came up
copper marsh
oh so it is possible, they just want my money again. kekw
lofty light
I mean that's the same with every game
quick locust
Lol
candid flame
how is this possible
molten flame
Arc master race
midnight crypt
molten flame
dapper saffron
let windows decide
pallid grotto
dry pike
Add a third card, see what it says
ivory creek
just noticed that warzone allocates 22gb vram of my 24gb vram when i play
thats alot
midnight crypt
gotta keep the entire map in memory
prime jasper
Doesn't it have option for how much vram it can use
molten flame
24GB not enough anymore smh
primal gorge
I can't launch my bf1 from steam
Whenever I try to launch it does not open
Help me please
naive patio
Whenever I try to launch it does not open
Open it through the EA app or origin, I had the same problem with battlefront 2
primal gorge
I have tried to do it but
It doesn't open
Well my battlefield 4 opens
But not battlefield 1
toxic wigeon
Any reason why 2042 doesn't use FSR 2.1?
primal gorge
But not battlefield 1
I have tried verifying files a lot of times and it's okay
naive patio
Any reason why 2042 doesn't use FSR 2.1?
It’s still on dlss like V1 I’m pre sure so all of it’s a lil fucky
prime jasper
4080 fh5 benchmark
quick locust
not 4090, so low settings
prime jasper
"suggested preset: low"
It was bug and was fixed in yesterdays update
It's extreme now
pale quartz
Any reason why 2042 doesn't use FSR 2.1?
would be useless has been discussed before
FSR helps with GPU bound situations, 2042 is CPU bound
toxic wigeon
Fair.
pale quartz
it's the same situation with DLSS you'll get minimal/negative performance
pale quartz
you enjoying that 3060 competitor in dx12 titles, and Rx 570 in dx11? 
quick locust
it's around same as my current gpu in plague tale requiem
a bit better but not much
pale quartz
except now you'll be getting black screens for 2 years
quick locust
Ya their drivers are a mess
prime jasper
I see
candid flame
contemplating whether or not to buy an ssd heatsink
dry pike
Watercool it - watercool all the things 
nocturne drift
the evga PSU killed the 3090 FE LOL
time to test nvidia RMA
my friend isnt getting his PC soon lol
dry pike
Can't blame Nvidia if the PSU is what kills it
nocturne drift
Yeah but Nvidia has warranty, I think I just got approved. they asking for my address
candid flame
they sending the "cleaning" squad
vernal flax
Indianapolis!! Ayooo!!
quick locust
Now in france 🙂 soon
prime jasper
Can someone help
molten flame
My sapphire pulse RX 6600 only maxes out at 58C lol
quick locust
My 2080 ti hits 75 ish
molten flame
The fans on my 6600 don't even have to turn on in some games that aren't very demanding
quick locust
Nice
nocturne drift
That reminds me of my God bin 3070 strix. Never went over 60c
3090 cooler on 3070 lol
quick locust
Arent they like 130W too
nocturne drift
quick locust
6600 i mean
quick locust
My triple fan 2080ti kinda loud
nocturne drift
some manufactures have giant azz cooler but cools really bad
gigabyte extreme 2080ti and zotac amp extreme 1080ti are prime examples
cursive marten
i don't really understand what makes a good GPU cooler. Like how can a GPU cooler be large but still not be effective at it's job?
prime jasper
No clue
Lazy design is usually reason for bad temps
Like taking cooler from another card and not making necessary changes
nocturne drift
heat pipe/heat transfer, fin spacing and density, and fans
prime jasper
ah yeah full charge lasts 10 mins prolly
brave egret
https://videocardz.com/newz/razer-working-on-blade-18-gaming-laptop-with-24-core...
I only care about thermal performance on something like this. Razer has a rough history of thermal throttling which makes their machines run horrendously low FPS in games compared to same exact hardware in properly cooled machines.
Like having this i9-13900HX CPU won't even matter over a normal i7 or i5 if it can't be kept cool.
quick locust
Its like 1300rpm
1350 rpm is the lowest my card can go, its idle
prime jasper
lul
quick locust
Today my A770 should come though
Which is just 190W
Second lowest power card I've had
prime jasper
i have this kfa2/galax
prime jasper
but the cooler is decent sized for the card
prime jasper
it draws around 220W
nocturne drift
dang
prime jasper
full load
nocturne drift
nice
prime jasper
3070 is actually beast for the tdp
molten flame
Either the RX 6600 or 6700 are the best performance-per-watt gaming GPU in the market
quick locust
Hm
nocturne drift
amd clocked it really high making it not that much more power efficient than nvidia even tho they are on a way superior node
prime jasper
Is there even proper benchmark for either
quick locust
Only like 5-7% diff except in MW2
nocturne drift
if thats true that sooo embarrassing
quick locust
It does beat the 4080 in mw2 for some reason
quick locust
Ya
nocturne drift
I think 13900k beat 7950X by 100+ fps?
now I know intel is faster but like no
not that much faster
molten flame
I thought 7900XTX is a good bit faster than 4080 in rasterisation
nocturne drift
U thought 7900XTX is gonna beat 4090
molten flame
3.7 GHz
nocturne drift
molten flame
quick locust
but the cooler is decent sized for the card
Mine in comparison
nocturne drift
RDNA 2 almost beat ampere cause tsmc vs samsung
now both on tsmc and nvidia has a slightly superior node idk wtf people smoking LOL
nocturne drift
intel just started they dont count
pale quartz
cause Samsung
it was never cause of Samsung
prime jasper
Then 6500XT
3050 got owned by that
pale quartz
the node had defect issues it didn't have efficiency issues
it was less efficient than TSMC, but it wasn't terrible
quick locust
People still buy far more 3050 and 3060 for some reason
quick locust
Havent seen a chart for october so if anyone has or makes one itd be cool
Probably not much different but meh
nocturne drift
1060 go brrr
quick locust
Yep its carrying the pascal numbers lol
molten flame
RX 580 carrying AMD
prime jasper
All rdna2 went to miners prolly
quick locust
Nah theres plenty of them for quite a while
nocturne drift
dont think rdna 2 is good at mining
molten flame
RDNA2 production was extremely low when it came out and remained to be for a year
If you count Xbox and Playstation there's more AMD hardware in consumer's homes than anything Nvidia or Intel together
quick locust
My gpu has been delivered pog
pale quartz
If you count Xbox and Playstation there's more AMD hardware in consumer's homes ...
that's just not true at all
like that's entirely wrong
intel dominate the iGPU market and hundreds of millions of laptops are sold per year
quick locust
I don't think you realize how many intel pcs there are lol
molten flame
You know how many people own a PS5 and PS4
quick locust
Nothing compared to intel
molten flame
pale quartz
then there's all the old prebuilts with intel processors in them
prime jasper
Xbox one used amd too don't know if ps4 did
pale quartz
they do
molten flame
Xbox One and PS4 used similar architectures
quick locust
They both have stinky jaguar
molten flame
Crazy how Jaguar CPU at under 2 GHz could run games at all
Console optimization advantage lol
molten flame
Few years ago Pubg was abysmal on Xbox One but ran fine on iPhone 6
Smartphones do have faster CPUs than consoles do tho
quick locust
Now nintendo just need to get something better
PS5 and xsx is alright to good now but switch nowadays is uhh
Pretty much everything on it could be upgraded
RAM, the 32GB game limit, the slow tegra
Controllers
Gpu came
prime jasper
I can see that
candid flame
molten coral
I regret buying rainbow fans
Mainly because the light is never on so they are just expensive fans
storm osprey
join the dark side
candid flame
China made a new GPU that is probably shit
quick locust
Mainly because the light is never on so they are just expensive fans
Meanwhile A770 is a lightshow compared to rest of my pc
Also compared to my other gpu which has barely anything
Only had the two brackets around middle fan and they werent separate
stock except for power limit
Seems to clock well over stock, just limited by power limit
slightly higher
pale quartz
that's a nice Rx 580 score you got there
prime jasper
Stock 3070
