technology

[nocturne drift]

6200 and 6200+ are all hynix m as well

[prime jasper]

228€ for samsung b 32Gb 5600

[nocturne drift]

Yeah u can undervolt. So zen4 apparently is not hot at all if u just do all core undervolt.

Same with alderlake and cometlake.

Yesterday we helped a esports warzone player who has a 10900k using a 30 dollar tower cooler.

We locked it to 4.8ghz all core, 1.15v drawing less than 160w

[prime jasper]

dont see any 5600 cl32 here lol

[nocturne drift]

Mid to high 80c

[nocturne drift]

:C

People do CO but like no one got time for per core curve and run core cycler for days. And amd boost algorithm is mad

Just like intel's stock vf curve

Unless u game and do prime 95 workloads then I'd consider bother with CO

[prime jasper]

what are cl40 die

[nocturne drift]

Speed?

5600 will be Samsung. 5200 will be micron.

6000 cl36 can be both Samsung or hynix. Depends on ur luck.

It's like the equivalent of 3600 cl16. Good luck haha

[prime jasper]

damn

[terse glade]

Ye but bro 160w for a CPU is still a lot lol

[nocturne drift]

I mean it's doing cinebench 23 loops doing 4.8ghz all core.

[molten flame]

Since Nvidia isn't making a desktop RTX 4060, there will be a refreshed 3060Ti with GDDR6X launching soon

[terse glade]

instead releasing 40s 50s 60s and so further they just should stick to 30s series for the next 5 years and just doing optimization them and focus on their new businesses they focus on like AI and self driving cars

because tbh, who really does need a more powerful card than a 3090?

i would say for 95% of users a rtx 3070 would be good to go for the next 5 year ez

🤷‍♂️

maybe also developing a nvidia cpu with a nice integrated gpu

something new

[chilly pendant]

Hello guys, can i delete files fron Docs/BF2042/Cache and CrashDumps? or i broke smth?

[midnight crypt]

You can

[chilly pendant]

Thx!

[prime jasper]

4070 is actually 4060

[molten flame]

What country does that plug come from?

[midnight crypt]

It's for high power machines

[dry pike]

It is an IEC 60309 415v 32A plug, pretty standard industrial plug as far as I know.

[midnight crypt]

Ye

[dry pike]

I would not be surprised if it was one of those things where EU and most of the world agree on using it and then USA and some other countries use a bunch of other "standards" 😄

[prime jasper]

USA is member of IEC so doubt

[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blU_2wIMT4U 600 watts fan

soon we all need one of those

[coarse nimbus]

did they do a finger test with that fan? substituting a finger for a hotdog and seeing how fast the fan would amputate you?

[midnight crypt]

they used a cucumber and carrot for substitute

[storm osprey]

its sad when people read the conclusions of product reviews and assume thats still relative months to years later

like bruh, X product being a bad value at msrp/launch isnt relative anymore when it drops price significantly

[crimson anvil]

Best TV of 2022? Looking for 50" - 55"

[lofty light]

Whatever is cheapest

[pale quartz]

lg c1

[crimson anvil]

Was looking at lg's. Glad I'm in the ball park.

[pale quartz]

[molten coral]

As Deco said; the LG C1, it's an amazing TV and 100% worth the money. You wouldn't regret it.

[prime jasper]

If you have too much money then Samsung S95B OLED

[prime jasper]

4090 aorus master

thats the 011 dynamic case

[dry pike]

Looks cool, but would rather have 1 central screen and one to the side

[nocturne drift]

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331923?Description=7200 ddr5&cm_re=7200_ddr5-_-20-331-923-_-Product&quicklink=true

F

[storm osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Viper-Ultralight-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B084RPZD6T/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=viper+mini&qid=1665434883&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjA1IiwicXNhIjoiMS4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuNzcifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-1

viper mini 20 bucks

[molten flame]

Cut-down 3060 with 128-bit bus and 8GB will use GDDR6X

Should be named 3050Ti imo

[quick locust]

hm arc A580 competitor?

[molten flame]

A580 is a good bit faster

A580 has 256-bit bus like A750/A770

Just a lot less cores

[quick locust]

Yeah

Well A770 is like a 3070 die but with terrible drivers

that's why it does bad in power effiency too despite being on better node than ampere and rdna2

21,7B transistors on A770 vs 17,4B on 3070

[molten flame]

Ampere on 7nm would of been bad for RDNA2 and Arc

7nm has 15% better performance or 30% better efficiency than Samsung 8nm

Fact that LoveLace on 4nm is likely about to get crushed by AMD on 5nm and 6nm probably has Nvidia nervous

[quick locust]

ya

[molten flame]

Rumor has it 7900XT is a bigger generational performance leap than going from 5700XT to 6900XT

6900XT is 80-100% faster than 5700XT depending on game and resolution

[quick locust]

meanwhile A770 does worse on a smaller node with more transistors and more bandwidth

https://tenor.com/view/lot-of-bad-drivers-out-there-bad-drivers-bad-driver-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-gif-14997715

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

prob gets quite a bit better over time though

like 5700xt which had lots of driver issues

[molten flame]

A770 might compete with 3060Ti and 3070 in the future

[quick locust]

yeah

also since i won a 13600k

i'll do a full intel build

lol

[molten flame]

Wtf now you win a CPU too lmao

[quick locust]

yes

finally deco can't diss my cpu

[molten flame]

Only 6 P-cores

[quick locust]

not 7950x3d smh

[molten flame]

Rather have 12700K than 13600K

[quick locust]

rather have 13600K than 8700K

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

and nothing beats 0$

i need new board though

but i can reuse rest

[molten flame]

Z790 is expensive

[quick locust]

i can just go z690

pretty much the same

just 4 more pcie lanes

also funny number

[molten flame]

I'm settling on mini-ITX B550 with 5700X and RX 6600

[quick locust]

13600K with A770 and 2080 ti

2080 ti when I want better drivers in exchange for noise

[molten flame]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600-ryzen-5-5000-series/p/N82E16819113736?

5600 only $130 after promo code

[quick locust]

nice

[toxic wigeon]

5600x my beloved.

[quick locust]

8700K my beloved

until 13600K comes

then idk what to sell my 8700K for

1100 kr maybe

up to 1500 kr

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-and-gunnir-to-launch-custom-arc-a770-a750-graphics-cards-tomorrow

3 fan one is rather overkill lol

wonder if it allows for higher than 228W

[nocturne drift]

13600k prob slaps.

What's it got 6p cores 4e cores?

Oh 8 e cores.

Just oc it on a cheap z690. Find some hynix m die for cheap and ur Laughing at zen4 cpus

[nocturne drift]

ICONIC.

[nocturne drift]

Nah 12700k gonna have way lower clock and less e core when oc ed. Gaming and productivity wise I think 13600k is clear.

The guy who traded me gpu got a 5800X 3D like I suggested

Now he is pushing 1000fps in fortnite.

Kudos to amd tho. With zen4 they fixed amdip issue and matched alderlake in gaming when tuned.

Zen4 3D gonna be a banger.

No more amdip like zen3 and even 5800X 3D

https://youtu.be/UFQkoie-fPE

Very good video on ddr4 vs ddr5

[molten flame]

DDR5 being asynchronous is already a major benefit

[nocturne drift]

With hynix m die ddr5 at 2X16 config at the same cost as Samsung bdie. And Samsung ddr5 at a very cheap and reasonable price. Ddr4 is kinda irrelevant

Unless u on a budget and go for sub 100 usd 2*16 kits at 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl18

[molten flame]

12900K with tuned DDR5 is 7-10% faster than with tuned DDR4

[nocturne drift]

In USA Amazon at least lol

Thats only true in spiderman with rtx

[molten flame]

In Spiderman DDR5 is up to 40% faster lmao

[nocturne drift]

Lmao

[molten flame]

I can see this happening in future games with RTX

[nocturne drift]

40% faster

Where did u get that from?

[molten flame]

Hardware Unboxed iirc

[nocturne drift]

Denial unboxed

[molten flame]

[nocturne drift]

https://youtu.be/aPRQ1wJ73xg

Here is the real benchmark

[molten flame]

The difference is pretty big in Cyberpunk with RT too

[nocturne drift]

The reason why I say ddr5 is the way to go because it matches the performance with bdie. Price is the same. Ddr5 board not much more expensive. You get ddr5 benefits from non gaming workload. Also you can drop ur ddr5 later in zen5 zen6 meteorlake or arrowlake etc

[molten flame]

Only argument to use DDR4 is for budget to mid-range systems imo

[nocturne drift]

Yeah

Also no cyberpunk is weird

[quick locust]

well i still have my 32 GB bdie kit

[nocturne drift]

Cyberpunk prefers ddr4

[quick locust]

that i could use for my 13600K

[nocturne drift]

That's still good.

[molten flame]

DDR4 with unlocked Raptor-Lake CPU is a no from me

[nocturne drift]

I'm saying is when someone buy new and don't wanna mess with second hand market.

[quick locust]

Well I could get a ddr5 kit just $$$$

[molten flame]

Still faster than 8700K ofc

[nocturne drift]

Raptorlake will be interesting because it's mobo vs mem controller

[quick locust]

the imc is the same as alder lake

exactly same

[molten flame]

Yeah disappointing

Caps at around 6800-7200 for DDR5

[nocturne drift]

Will cheap mobo support higher ddr5 speed or will the memory controller go much higher.

[quick locust]

my z390 caps at 3733

[molten flame]

Z790 boards should have better circuitry for DDR5 OC

[nocturne drift]

Cause for alderlake on ddr4 you wall at 3800-4133 on ddr4 cause mem controller. And you wall at 6200-6400 on mobo unless u spend $$$ for xoc 2 dimm boards

[quick locust]

sike

[molten flame]

Who needs more than 2 DIMM slots anyway

[quick locust]

i run 4x8 rn

[nocturne drift]

Yeah but cheap 4 dimm board wall at 6200-6400

That's why the Russia video is very important as he is doing what possible daily

[quick locust]

this is closer to ddr4 pricing

[nocturne drift]

Not some jufes bs with 7000 ddr5 with ram watercooling

[molten flame]

Don't know what DDR4 kit to get value-wise for the 5700X

[nocturne drift]

Also 4133 cl15 is xoc try hards. U will need around 1.55v for that

And a fan

[quick locust]

LN2 on ram

jk

[nocturne drift]

Also 13th gen will have alot more cache than 12th gen

So kinda interesting

[molten flame]

For the E-cores iirc

Maybe P-cores too idk

[quick locust]

16E cores

[molten flame]

Increasing L2 cache isn't as beneficial as increasing L3 especially in gaming

Last-level cache needs the most work

[quick locust]

Yeah but 13th gen is more of a tock

Improvements here and there

Meteor is bigger change

[molten flame]

Yeah refresh with increased clocks and more cores

[nocturne drift]

The real battle will be 13th gen vs Zen4 3D for gaming.

[molten flame]

Meteor-Lake might have lower clocks than Raptor

[nocturne drift]

Zen4 only matches alderlake in gaming if u know what u are doing

[quick locust]

Tiled cpu thats partly tsmc

👀

[nocturne drift]

I think Intel is mad for that

The actual cpu die is like soo tiny compare to io and igpu

[molten flame]

I can predict that Meteor lake is gonna have some new issues

[nocturne drift]

Of course. Every new design will have isuues

Also I don't get why amd want zen4 to run this hot.

[molten flame]

Zen 4 3D is likely 15-25% faster than regular Zen 4 in gaming

Zen 4 3D might be competitive with Meteor imo

[nocturne drift]

That's too far

[molten flame]

Nah lol

[nocturne drift]

That's like comparing nothing with nothing.

[quick locust]

its not really an issue

just pushing to get the most out of the sillicon

[nocturne drift]

I know. Cause zen4 is power efficient af but amd was like nah

[quick locust]

they both are doing super high clocks this gen

[molten flame]

Zen 4 mobile is probably gonna draw more attention than desktop did lol

[quick locust]

well going by how zen mobile is doing it might be a year later

[molten flame]

I hope AMD actually has Zen 4 mobile in good volume tho, unlike Zen 3+ ffs

[nocturne drift]

Buildzoid killed his 7950X

[quick locust]

Here I just see 5500U spam

[nocturne drift]

That's a rip

[quick locust]

only ryzen mobile cpu i see really

[nocturne drift]

Classic ryzen can't take high voltage

And amd here cranking high azz voltages

[molten flame]

Fx-9590 looking cold now

[nocturne drift]

I'm still debating do I get 13th gen or not lol.

Gonna see how my finances are.

[molten flame]

Stick with 12th unless you want to play with the increased clocks

[nocturne drift]

I have 10850k

[molten flame]

[nocturne drift]

Speaking of play with increased clock.

Sounds like zen3 to zen4 to me

[quick locust]

I will get 13600K

Nothing beats 0$

Then I can punish it with a770 drivers

[nocturne drift]

I wish intel would give me free stuff lol

I'll take an arc gpu as a decor

[molten flame]

I would take just the retail box pls

[nocturne drift]

Good luck updating the bios without a 12th cpu on z690

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

Lyl

[nocturne drift]

Like how we updated 10594838 b450 mobos for zen3

[quick locust]

Lul

[nocturne drift]

Great times.

Trooper 3600

[molten flame]

People that bought 8400/9400 over the 3600 probably in copium mode now

[nocturne drift]

Wait why?

They can go to 9900k

[molten flame]

B450 motherboards can handle 5800X3D

[nocturne drift]

Yeah but how many years later

All those year of 3600

I would not be happy.

[molten flame]

The reason why socket longevity is a good selling point for a motherboard but having chipsets support multiple CPU generations means a lot more work for the software team, more potential problems, hence many AGESA updates

[nocturne drift]

How is that have to do with 3600 is just not a super good cpu?

[molten flame]

It was the best value for its time, which is why it was #1 seller on Amazon and Newegg for a while

[dry pike]

3600 was the best value. Easy and cheap to cool, ran all the games. Value proposition through the roof.

[molten flame]

The 2600 was also a #1 top seller lol

3600 took its position

2600 is actually the most sold Ryzen CPU of all time, 5600X is 2nd place and 3600 is 3rd

[nocturne drift]

That's actually pretty cool.

I am abit spoiled by 10850k haha

[molten flame]

5600X total sales came ahead of 3600 just a few months ago iirc

[nocturne drift]

Also the 8700k in a way

Wow I have prime early access

12700kf for 300

That's actually good.

5600X for 175

11600k for 157

Good time for pc gamers

[prime jasper]

11600k is 250€ here

5600x 230€

non x around 190

so you rather buy 5700x for 270 tbh

[nocturne drift]

12700kf is compelling here

Get a z690 board for sub 150 bucks get some second hand bdie for sub 150

[prime jasper]

my ram is hynix

[quick locust]

It didnt exist when I bought 8700K otherwise I probably woùld have

Only ryzen 1700X and 1800X were alternatives at the time iirc

[prime jasper]

i had 1600AF

still have it tho as it has basically no sell value

[dry pike]

Good old 8700K, when AMD finally forced Intel to realise gamers might want more than 4 cores 😄

[quick locust]

😛 ya

And intel were stuck on 14nm and skylake

So they just added 2 cores each gen

[dry pike]

coffee lake was toasty, that's for sure

[prime jasper]

why did 11900k have only 8 cores

[quick locust]

Well not compared to newer cpus now lol

[prime jasper]

its basically 11700k with higher price

[dry pike]

Guess not, but who would have guessed Intel would mainly make their CPUs faster by just applying MORE POWER

[quick locust]

They both do rn

[dry pike]

true

[quick locust]

Rocket lake was a mess

Different uarch than earlier but had to be changed to 14nm

[prime jasper]

10900k was faster on lot of things

[quick locust]

Cause two more cores

[prime jasper]

11900k makes no sense

[quick locust]

At least they're both improving in uarch and node now

Both intel and amd

[quick locust]

Yeah it was a mess

[dry pike]

The current energy crisis will hopefully help making energy efficiency improvements marketable.

[quick locust]

Lower end rkl made sense but not high at all

[quick locust]

They both improve each gen in effiency, they market it too

[prime jasper]

11600k/f was basically only good one

[quick locust]

13900K at 65W has same perf as 12900K stock

Zen 4 is decent upgrade in efficiency too

They just both crank clock and power consumption

[dry pike]

It will be truly marketable when it is listen on the actual retail box.

• in webshops ofc

[quick locust]

Noone sells pc components in stores where I am

But yeah could be nice

[prime jasper]

I probably have to change my plan because 5800X3D is almost out of stock again

Just restocked last Friday 😂

And i still haven't made sale on my 5700xt

It's probably out selling whole 7000 series atm

[quick locust]

Rip amd marketshare

Gotta go higher

[prime jasper]

If they have lower price and good performance people likely buy them

Nvidia prices are yikes for many this gen

[quick locust]

They already do with 6600 and 6800

And they just lowered them

[prime jasper]

Sadly i wont see these price cuts

Stores here will sell them with current prices until out of their current stock runs out

Then there will be already new gen

[quick locust]

Same

BUt even old msrp theyre good value

[molten flame]

RX 6600 is almost RX 580 price now lol

[prime jasper]

309€ for asus dual 6600 here

xt 409€

[toxic wigeon]

Lol I need a better fan.

My 5600x has overheated.

[prime jasper]

what cooler you are using

[molten flame]

Definitely stock

[toxic wigeon]

Don't think it would have mattered anyways because of the none existent air flow in my room.

Fixed it all up should be better now.

[prime jasper]

wraith stealth? i think that what it comes with

[molten flame]

5600X should of come with the Prism cooler

Especially at $299 msrp

[prime jasper]

wraith spire at minimum lmao

i have all of the amd stock coolers in my closet

prism, spire and stealth

i use the Noctua NH-U12S

[molten flame]

5600X and 5700X should have come with the Prism stock cooler imo

[quick locust]

4090 reviews out

[prime jasper]

finally 4k 144hz monitor actually start making sense

https://www.techspot.com/review/2544-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090/

its fast.

[quick locust]

Yep

[molten flame]

Right at 144 fps average

[dapper saffron]

if only i could afford it

stalker ii is ready for dlss 3 🙌

[prime jasper]

honestly don't give shit

dlss 3.0 can burn for all i care

exclusive for rtx 4000

the nvidia way

[dapper saffron]

yeah i know its exclusive which is sad

[quick locust]

meanwhile amd and intel made theirs available for others

[prime jasper]

reason why my next gpu will be radeon

prolly 7900/7950xt

[quick locust]

we'll see how they perform eventually

[prime jasper]

unless it sucks

[quick locust]

not sure if they have given a date

[prime jasper]

i know next month 3rd is something

[molten flame]

November 3rd announcement and November 22nd launch for 7900XT afaik

[quick locust]

lol rip rdna rt

[molten flame]

[pale quartz]

it'll lose again

not as severe though this time round

[pale quartz]

can't wait for it to use fake inaccurate frames

[quick locust]

deco i'll switch to a 13600K for free

you cant complain about my 8700K anymore soon

[pale quartz]

one heater for another

[quick locust]

cant beat 0$

[dapper saffron]

yeah i also read that in a youtube video thimbnail
didnt watched it
dont have much knowledge about these stuff
i hope it gives some boost

[pale quartz]

oh it'll give a boost all right, just hope you're prepared for legs briefly disappearing and arms turning into jelly periodically

[quick locust]

thats just gym for 5 minutes

[pale quartz]

[quick locust]

just have this for 4090

4090 beats my space heater though

[prime jasper]

The price tag includes heating bills ?

[storm osprey]

well shiiiiit

[nocturne drift]

4090 is great but wtf is with the no display port 2

Also the real problem is the 2 4080 cards

Nvidia finessed the masses with the 2 4080 cards

[storm osprey]

if people are buying gpus before benchmarks came out and they dont know anything about the cards, they finessed themselves

[nocturne drift]

They prices 4090 well to ok for the riches and completely ripping people off using the 2 4080 cards

[young grove]

how so? im out of the loop on this

[pale quartz]

tldr the bottom SKU for the "4080" is actually a 4070 die, at 4080 prices, and the real 4080 starts at $1200 (before AIB pricing)

[nocturne drift]

The the amount of Cuda cores they cut on them

Man we need zen5 or 14th gen for this 4090 cpu bottleneck city

[young grove]

Wow. That's shitty. I've been wanting to upgrade my 2080 super. But I guess I'll go with a 3000 series

[pale quartz]

just wait for RDNA3 lol

[molten flame]

RDNA3 isn't that much more expensive to manufacture than current RDNA2 so hopefully AMD doesn't shaft us as well

I hope Navi 32 is named 7700XT and doesn't cost more than $600

If Navi 33 ended up being 7700XT that would be an insult

[prime jasper]

probably will

suspect navi 32 be 7800

[pale quartz]

navi 32 is the 7700xt

navi 31 is the 7800xt

[molten flame]

7700XT is 256-bit?

4080 16GB killer

[pale quartz]

[molten flame]

7700XT is better than whole 4080 series

7800XT probably comparable to 4090

[prime jasper]

what is 7900 then

[pale quartz]

n31

the 7950xt is the full navi 31 die, 7900 and 7800xt are cutdown skus

[small zinc]

Welp. Since I finally got time to see the reviews, thr 4090 is impressive

Not sure I’m going to spend that much. But it’s a beast

I’m going to wait for AMD’s answer to see which one I will get. I honestly think that AMD will come close again if not outperform it just like this current gen, and undercut Nvidias pricing

7900xt likely $1,000-$1200

Seeing how the 3090 Ti was literally cut in half and costs $1000 now, we already know the 4090 is overpriced

[small zinc]

This is the shit that pisses me off. Nvidia 1060 debacle all over again.

[pale quartz]

tldr it will lose in raytracing, 3x current rdna2 performance, around double in raster

[nocturne drift]

The second hand gpu market is nice.

2080ti strix for 300 USD I see

[small zinc]

I for one don’t personally care about RT performance. Rasterization will always be king

[prime jasper]

I need to get new router or something. Can't download shit if i wanna do something with another device that's connected

[small zinc]

Go Ubiquiti products and never look back

[prime jasper]

if i have download going on one device, every other device has slow af connection

[small zinc]

Alien Amplifi Mesh system and never look back

[prime jasper]

well you probably have like gigabit connection

that's much easier to share to multiple devices

[small zinc]

5GB fiber actually

Lol

Sorry….flexing

Hehe

[prime jasper]

yeah..

[quick locust]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/11/mark-zuckerberg-debuts-meta-quest-pro-vr-headset-that-will-cost-1500.html

[toxic wigeon]

What's the DDR5 Clock equivalent for Cl16 3200 Mhz? Wasn't it CL32 5200?

[nocturne drift]

5600 cl40 to 5600 cl36

[toxic wigeon]

Thank you.

[nocturne drift]

There is no clock equivalent but this is what the norm is.

They are also all Samsung die. Which are really good.

I consider 5200 and below 3000-2666

Aka micron garbage

[toxic wigeon]

5600 Cl36 sounds reaaaally good.

[nocturne drift]

Yeah and 2X16 is already just north of 150 in us Amazon. Which isn't too bad.

[dry pike]

Have a pair of 6400 cl32 - hopefully they will slap

[quick locust]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-21p01j00ba/p/N82E16814883001

Launched in some countries

[pale quartz]

paper launched*

[quick locust]

Sure stock is low

A few I know bought some before they went out of stock

[pale quartz]

there's more arc driver developers than buyers

[quick locust]

Not supposed to be out before an hour anyway

[quick locust]

https://game.intel.com/story/intel-arc-graphics-release/

[prime jasper]

apparently its not coming here

we dont have komplett

none was given to press either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIS4UANcCe4

oh wow gigabyte didn't actually fuck up the cooler this time

i wonder if they still use some cheap crap thermal paste that vaporizes in two months like in my 5700xt

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTdVS_2tLWk&ab_channel=IntelGraphics

[molten flame]

https://youtu.be/iYWzMvlj2RQ?t=25

[prime jasper]

GIGACHAD

[molten flame]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-uncharted-game-bundle-ryzen-5000

[prime jasper]

I can see black Friday sales with this

Could be some good deals

[dry pike]

New Nvidia driver supposedly increases DX12 performance, including 2042

[prime jasper]

interesting

[dry pike]

RTX cards only but still

[prime jasper]

says up to 7% @1080p in 2042

lets see

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-4090-game-ready-driver/

Cyberpunk 2077: up to 20% (1080p)

guess i will be testing bunch of games

they probably had this update for a while

but had to release 4090 to give it to us

definitely better frames on cb2077

[midnight crypt]

cyberbunk

[molten flame]

cy🅱️er🅱️unk

[lost cargo]

How can I fix battlefield 2042 starting up multiple 2042s at the same time

I only click launch from desktop shortcut once or as soon I open EA app it automatically start’s multiple 2042 applications at once

How can I fix this issue?

[midnight crypt]

Contact EA support

[lost cargo]

4090 is meant for higher res tbh

[lost cargo]

In the website?

[midnight crypt]

Yes

[lost cargo]

Thanks

[prime jasper]

it's driver for all rtx series...

[lost cargo]

Origin desktop app works with no issues XD

EA app have the souse with 2042 by Lodi g up multiple

[lost cargo]

I mean yea but due to dlss 3.0 especially is technically meant for high res stuff especially in gaming

[prime jasper]

still don't get your point. its just one highlight of the improvements

for some rtx card that they arent mentioning

[lost cargo]

Do you get dlss 3.0 on rtx 20 series?

[prime jasper]

bet you didnt even click the link

[lost cargo]

I don’t see dlss 3.0 for 20 series tho

[prime jasper]

there

happy?

[lost cargo]

I don’t see rtx 20 series

[prime jasper]

what is your point

[lost cargo]

Only 30 and 40 series

So… I’m right basically, your only getting improvements for higher gpus but the update is focused on 40 series more in general

Nothing I see about 20 series

[prime jasper]

it's available for rtx 2000

[lost cargo]

I only see 30 and 40 series

[midnight crypt]

I think yall are talking about different things

[lost cargo]

Driver update is for everyone but the improvements for 20 series isn’t shown

That’s why I’m right

[prime jasper]

right about what lmao

[lost cargo]

The improvements that nvidia said and shown said nothing about the 20 series

Only 30 and 40 series

[prime jasper]

i haven't honestly even said anything about rtx 2000

but its still available for it

[lost cargo]

I’m trying make a point , o nothing about 20 series improvements I see because they are pushing for newer gpus like 30 series and especially the 40 series because it just dropped.

[prime jasper]

they didn't show non TI versions either but still got improvements for 3070, who knew

[lost cargo]

Update is obviously gonna be for everyone

TI is gonna have improvements, they shown the og version because it’s standard compared to the TI version

[prime jasper]

Our DirectX 12 optimizations apply to GeForce RTX graphics cards and laptops, though improvements will vary based on your specific system setup, and the game settings used

you are wrong too

[lost cargo]

TI is just the middle ground between the next version in that series

Mainly focused for newer gpus

[prime jasper]

why dont you go and test it if you think that

[lost cargo]

I am for 2 hours now and see no improvements on the rtx 2080

With the latest game ready driver update…

[prime jasper]

have you measured your fps before and after?

[nocturne drift]

w8 I have 3090

I'll test this

I also play at 1080p 280hz

[lost cargo]

Yes, always before and after new update drops

You will see a performance because 30 series is better than the 20 series

I personally don’t see a performance

[nocturne drift]

gonna go to cyberpunk 2077 rn

[lost cargo]

Ight bet

Gotta download it first lol

[prime jasper]

you are probably bottlenecked

[lost cargo]

Temps is at 50c and utilization % isn’t high at all

[nocturne drift]

my settings is completely maxed out rtx psycho etc dlss quality

1080p 2080hz monitor

1.1v at 2100-2085mhz core. 10870 on vram

[lost cargo]

Psycho preset will kill my pc

[nocturne drift]

wtf my map texture is glitched LOL

when I pull up a map its just all white

[lost cargo]

2080 hz monitor…. Wtf 😳

[nocturne drift]

yeah

[lost cargo]

This man have thousands of fps sheesh 🙄

[nocturne drift]

I will go 1440P 240hz maybe in a year

[prime jasper]

These improvements include shader compilation optimization, reduced CPU overhead, and Resizable BAR profiles for Forza Horizon 5 and F1Ⓡ 22. Many of these optimizations are most beneficial in CPU-bound scenarios, enabling your graphics card to be utilized to a greater degree

[nocturne drift]

when 4090 price in 2nd hand market is down, hynix A die is available and prob 14th gen intel

[lost cargo]

You said 1080p with 2080hz monitor, what monitor you have?

@nocturne drift

[prime jasper]

meant 280hz prolly

[lost cargo]

Bouta say this man hitting thousands of frames per game already?!?!?!

[nocturne drift]

oh my bad

280

keep typing 2080 cause I have a 2080ti

my hand just auto do that

[lost cargo]

You said you have a 3090

[nocturne drift]

I have both

[lost cargo]

Ummm 🤔

O…

I have the og 2080

[nocturne drift]

Yeah i got a 2080ti for 360 or 340 I forgot a month ago for my backup PC

[lost cargo]

I’m to broke to upgrade gpu at the moment… oof me 😠

[nocturne drift]

nah new driver is messed up

[lost cargo]

🤔

[nocturne drift]

my map is glitched

[lost cargo]

Need a hot fix on new driver update 🤔

I noticed before and after I’m hitting higher utilization now than before the past 3 updates

Still not capped out tho, went from 70 to 80 on 2042 at low preset

For both GPU and CPU

[nocturne drift]

ok so I do see performance improvement

I am getting about 10ish fps higher

but when I pull up the map its glitched

I am gonna DDU and reinstall real fast

[lost cargo]

Time for me to kill my pc running psycho preset at 1080p

Are you running dlss sharpness? @nocturne drift

[nocturne drift]

yeah 0.25

[lost cargo]

No dsr or fxr?

[nocturne drift]

no

my system is tuned tho

[lost cargo]

Ok, loading in to see fps…

Cyberpunk is the highest performance this driver update by look of it so far

[nocturne drift]

ok I ddu ed

see if the glitch is gone

[lost cargo]

Are you running raytracing?

[nocturne drift]

yeah

nope still fked

LOL

[lost cargo]

I’m getting 14 fps maxed out everything with raytracing on

[nocturne drift]

wahts ur gpu?

cpu and ram

[lost cargo]

2080

[nocturne drift]

also its a known gltich

LOL

bruh nvidia acting like amd recently

[lost cargo]

Cpu i7 9750h

Oof me

[nocturne drift]

cpu bottleneckhell

[lost cargo]

Cpu 29% GPU at 98%

Sheesh

Ultra performance dlss went up to 40 fps

250 ms render latency

Dam

[nocturne drift]

so I do see a decent performance jump but my map is fked

LOL

welp gonna go back playing shadow of war

[lost cargo]

Yea the map is fked bad

Can’t even see top 20% of the map 🗺️

[prime jasper]

Ray tracing is too much to try to run in cb77

[lost cargo]

Everything on low was smooth running before with no issue at 70 fps, now with newest driver update same low settings, I’m getting 55 fps

Sheesh 😒

Double render latency as well 15ms to 30 Ms

[prime jasper]

DDU and install

[lost cargo]

In the city jumps up to 120 Ms render latency

Welp Fuh meh ever non the lowest graphic settings

Playing a 8bit simulator at this point

[prime jasper]

Do you have resizable bar

[lost cargo]

I think that’s only supported for 30 series

And higher

I can only get reflex not rebar on rtx 2080

Rebar only supports 30 series and higher

[toxic wigeon]

One thing I've heard about the 40 series that I completely forgot was that they've been optimised for crypto. But since crypto is dead. Uhhh. LOL.

Apparently the 4090's here are sold out.

[nocturne drift]

sold out at newegg as well

and the microcenter near me

and best buy. damn

[molten flame]

https://www.techpowerup.com/299782/intel-said-to-be-considering-laying-off-thousands-of-staff

Oof

[storm osprey]

A wild 4090 appears

[nocturne drift]

4090 doesn't draw much power

Tsmc 4nm is efficient as f

Most of the time you are hit with voltage limit not power.

A 3080ti running 1440p hit 540w

My former 3080ti

Yeah intel marketing is lol

[molten flame]

4090 draws less power than 3080Ti when DLSS is on

[nocturne drift]

its all about power limit.

without power limit. 4090 does not draw more power than 3090 period

or I can say I undervolted an ampere card so its more efficient than a stock rdna 2

which isnt a good representation

[molten flame]

4090 already hit 3.5 GHz on LN2

[nocturne drift]

it just shows how bad samsung 8nm was

https://youtube.com/shorts/X6NJ1hPjXPA?feature=share

[molten flame]

4090 using 630mm^2 area on 4nm is the reason why AMD is winning this generation

4090 costs pretty much double the 3090 to manufacture

Less profit margin than 3000 series

[nocturne drift]

why are u so optimistic about amd lol

I want it to happen as well

but I will have to see it

[molten flame]

AMD uses MCM and 5nm/6nm, also small chips

[nocturne drift]

the 4080 prices are unacceptable

[molten flame]

If 4080 16GB was same price as 3080 msrp it wouldn't be profitable

[nocturne drift]

I always judge after the benchmarks

also we need faster cpu to run these test

current zen4 and alderlake are both bottlenecking the 4090

[molten flame]

GPU tests should be done with more than 1 CPU

They should use a flagship CPU then a mid-range one

[nocturne drift]

yeah ez for us to say

hard to do

I have to look at german website and russian youtubers to get actually great benchmarks

that's not stock, fully testing correctly and not using XOC clock speed and voltages

[quick locust]

they just do it to reduce cpu bottlenecks

which there are a lot of with 4090 lol

[nocturne drift]

yeah

[molten flame]

Yeah probably need to wait for Ryzen 9000/Intel 14th gen for a proper 4090 benchmark

[nocturne drift]

one thing that is disappointing is the DP 1.4a

[molten flame]

Supposedly DP 1.4a still can do 4K 144Hz fine

DP 2.0 would be beneficial for VR afaik

RDNA3 has DP 2.0 so maybe AMD can catch up in VR performance

[nocturne drift]

thats the problem

4090 can do alot more than 4k 144hz

[quick locust]

Meanwhile Intel with 2.0 on mid end cards

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467999857697751040/1029756696635113522/unknown.png

[molten flame]

[quick locust]

[nocturne drift]

yeah next build Ill def go from 1080p 280hz to 1440p 240hz

[quick locust]

I have 1440p 165Hz but its a 2016 TN screen

much much better viewing angles than my TN laptop though

[molten flame]

Damn early adopter of 1440p high refreshrate

[quick locust]

yea

and gsync

but its the module so i wont have VRR with my arc gpu

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quick locust]

acer xb241yubmiprz

yes thats the actual name

thanks acer

[molten flame]

Monitor names

[nocturne drift]

did the new driver improve fps in 2042?

Battlefield 2042: up to 7% (1080p)

I see!

no wonder my fps is abit higher

Cyberpunk 2077: up to 20% (1080p)

I felt this but MF MAP IS GLITCHED LOL

gonna see if this is true on my 2080ti pc this weekend

[quick locust]

2042 nukes my 2080 ti

maybe driver update helps

[nocturne drift]

new one?

[quick locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558522538700046348/1025709587875233802/unknown.png

so i dont get this

[nocturne drift]

did u ddu?

[quick locust]

Not yet but going to then update

See if it helps

[nocturne drift]

I remember I told u, you should prob repaste ur gpu

then do an undervolt

[quick locust]

sure its just the only game it happens in

i played 2077 8 hours in a row this sunday

no issue

[nocturne drift]

2042 is the hardest game to run stable

[quick locust]

i guess

[nocturne drift]

2042 itself I need to downclock my gpu by 15 more mhz

a bin

[quick locust]

weird its more sensitive

i already run at 1770 due to thermals

[nocturne drift]

oof

[molten flame]

GTA 4 and Saints Row 2

[quick locust]

dunno why its unstable in it

[nocturne drift]

yeah need a repaste and some undervolt

[quick locust]

I'll repaste it soon, I prob have time before my a770 comes anyway

[nocturne drift]

whats ur model?

[quick locust]

nah I'll just limit power

gainward phoenix gs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422598689928773632/817869848167317514/unknown.png

[nocturne drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06W5It-UBU

yeah doesnt look hard at all

[quick locust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i cleaned it afterwards

since i tend to get paste everywhere

but whatever

not conductive

[nocturne drift]

I remember my friends gtx 980 went from 90c to 72c after repaste

[quick locust]

I run at 74C ish

[nocturne drift]

thats not bad at all

[quick locust]

but 108C hotspot pretty much pegged until I lower power by quite a lot

[nocturne drift]

108c hotspot or mem junction

if its hotspot, u didnt repaste it right?

[quick locust]

hotspot

and no not yet

i mean i did in 2020

as in the pic

[candid flame]

I lost my thermal grizzly tube

[quick locust]

I just borrowed it without asking for permission

[nocturne drift]

[prime jasper]

4080 isn't worth it at all

[quick locust]

you mean 4070 Plus Max

[nocturne drift]

Told ya

[prime jasper]

and thats with performance mode

dlss

so its maxed

without dlss its not really fast

amd is gonna sweep the floor with 4080 no doubt

i don't even care if its faster with dlss

[quick locust]

yeah

idk if they can beat 4090

but 4080 sure

underwhelming compared to 4090

[prime jasper]

they probably releasing third 4080 later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkUAGMYg5Lw

it's horrible

not only increases fps but latency 😂

[pale quartz]

it's impossible for frame interpolation to not increase latency, there is no rendering of frames being done by the GPU as it's faking frames

[prime jasper]

yeah and that's why im never gonna like it

fps means nothing when the delay is doubled than usual

and it gives no benefit to run past your monitor refresh rate as there is no latency reduction

[candid flame]

lmao that's horrible

[prime jasper]

why does 4090 have only dp 1.4

[quick locust]

No idea

[quick locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467999857697751040/1029756696635113522/unknown.png

[prime jasper]

more i look into rtx 4000 more dumb shit i found

let say some guy wants 2x 144hz 4k screens

they cant have it at 144hz both

i guess that hdmi 2.1 can do 4k 144hz?

[quick locust]

two cables

[quick locust]

yep

without compression

even at 10 bit

[prime jasper]

the thing is rtx 4090 has 3x dp and single hdmi

[toxic wigeon]

Do these cards automatically use DLSS 3.0 when it's enabled or nah?

As in.

You go play a game with DLSS 2, Will it.

[quick locust]

No idea

But you can probably enforce 2 if you wanted to

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah a 4080 16 gig is sounding less appealing lol.

It'd be nice if dlss didn't have this much of an issue.

[molten flame]

Biggest issue of RTX 4000 not having DisplayPort 2.0 is to do with VR support

Also another problem for 4000 series

RTX 4080 12GB loses to the 3080Ti when RT and DLSS is off

[prime jasper]

Yes. Clownvidia

[candid flame]

dlss 3 is labelled as dlss 2 + frame generation in-game

it's just fake frames that increase your latency by a lot

lol

[cursive marten]

Woo fake frames!

[molten flame]

Something that will improve with time like usual

[cursive marten]

WOO FAKE FRAMES

YEAAAAAA

[candid flame]

let's hope we won't need the rtx5000 for it to happen

[pale quartz]

it's game dependent not card dependent

[candid flame]

no dlss 3 on rtx3000 series Is it really hardware limitation, or is it one of their marketing ploys again

[molten flame]

Don't think it's to do with hardware but even if it were on previous gen, 4000 series will still benefit the most from it

[cursive marten]

Fake frames!

[molten flame]

OK so

Looks like AMD RX 7000 GPUs have DisplayPort 2.1

[nocturne drift]

Dlss 3 is meant for 4k or 8k

It's like an 20-30ms latency immediately

[toxic wigeon]

They might be able to improve it but God damn.

[nocturne drift]

I mean it's meant for single player games gaming on a 4k to 8k TV

Or turn that thing off lol

I am doing Samsung c die overclocking today lol

So far I got to 3733 CL18 21 21 40

Oc discord say 40 can go to 28

Gonna try later.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7000-rdna-3-launch-december-difficult-to-compete-with-nvidia-rtx-40-gpus-rumor/amp/

Leakers says rdna 3 will launch December and hard to compare against 4090

But I am gonna wait and see.

Idc if it can't compete against 4090

I just want amd to f over Nvidia on the 4080s.

Both 4080s

[molten flame]

4090 is over 50-70% faster than its predecessor in rasterisation which is a huge performance leap, it has almost 3x more transistors lol

4000 series is expensive because it's expensive to make

If 4080 16GB had same MSRP as the 3080, it probably wouldn't be profitable

TSMC 4nm is insanely more expensive than Samsung 8nm

[nocturne drift]

I know. I just want amd to bring Nvidia prices down.

[pale quartz]

yes it is actually a hardware limitation, it will never come to below RTX 40 because it would be a laggy mess

[candid flame]

that's a bummer

[nocturne drift]

Wow a 6900XT red devil for 400 usd

Sooo tempting haha

[prime jasper]

thats a steal

you wont be getting same performance for 400 for a while after its gone

[storm osprey]

wtf where?

[lapis socket]

if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is

[nocturne drift]

Fb marketplace

The 2nd hand market place is crazy rn

Good time to pick up a 3090 etc for 600ish dollars in US if ur around a popular city I think.

[molten flame]

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-12gb-just-12-faster-than-the-rtx-3080-slower-than-the-3090-ti-in-every-game/

4080 12GB slower than 3090Ti in every game

[nocturne drift]

not surprised in the slightest

should be 600-700 USD max

u can just oc a 3080ti to beat it prob

[prime jasper]

What will 4060 be lmao

[crisp sun]

599, lol

[quick locust]

https://videocardz.com/newz/acer-a770-predator-bifrost-gpu-with-up-to-280w-tdp-is-now-on-sale-in-taiwan-for-404-usd

Weird card

[prime jasper]

hope someone reviews that

[quick locust]

Same

Quite a bit higher power limit than LE

[molten flame]

Blower and regular fan

[quick locust]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-mobile-series-now-confirmed-to-feature-zen4-zen3-and-zen2-cpus

[molten flame]

OK so if 5800X3D competes with 7000 series in gaming, would a Zen 3+ part with 3D cache beat Zen 4 in gaming as a whole?

[prime jasper]

im gonna replace my samsung 970 evo soon

i feel its starting to get slower

its my system drive and like over 2 years old

[midnight crypt]

blame windows

[prime jasper]

ye windows starts degrading when you hit 100% on installation

newer drives are much faster too

i could install to my 980 tho next time

i have 2x NVMe and 1x sata ssd

[toxic wigeon]

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1580956525152989184

Wario64 (@Wario64)

NVIDIA is unlaunching the RTX 4080 12GB https://t.co/Gl0zwnPVDL

"The RTX 4080 12GB is a fantastic graphics card, but it’s not named right. Having two GPUs with the 4080 designation is confusing."

Twitter · Oct 14, 2022, 4:19 PM

[prime jasper]

the hell is this

i mean good but that article is unreal

[nocturne drift]

Someone selling a 10600k for 100 USD

Tempting lol

[prime jasper]

thought its satire article first

but its actual nvidia

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/12gb-4080-unlaunch/

like they even added pics from reddit

[nocturne drift]

LOL

Yeah rename it to 4070 and drop the price by 200

Tbh 4080 is a rip off still

No one should get anything other than a 4090

Want anything cheaper go to 2nd market and get a 3090ti to 3080ti

[prime jasper]

https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1580652197104099328

GamersNexus (@GamersNexus)

Thanks to Corsair for addressing this and apologizing. Apology accepted on our end and we're happy to just move forward.

Likes

4426

Retweets

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Twitter · Oct 13, 2022, 8:10 PM

[dry pike]

Naughty Friday picture. Happy Friday!

[umbral crater]

The hell is this?

[cursive marten]

trackpoint nubs. from thinkpads.

[dry pike]

Oh dear, people didn't get it 😄

[umbral crater]

I partially get it

Ohh i get it now

[prime jasper]

True. I am clueless

[shell bison]

ea app is donwloading at 1mbps but all my other app downloads at 50

anyone have any help

[shell bison]

is there one for tech suport

[toxic wigeon]

It's some throttling that happens.

Ea app isn't specifically great anyways.

[shell bison]

how do i fix it

[toxic wigeon]

You can't. It's shit.

[shell bison]

damn

[candid flame]

I'm getting good speed downloading on origin, maybe it's the server you are downloading from?

[umbral crater]

Deco 2.0

[molten flame]

Now it will be $799

[prime jasper]

wonder what happens to all of the already manufactured 4080 12GB cards

board partners taking the loss as usual?

https://videocardz.com/newz/board-partners-are-now-unlaunching-geforce-rtx-4080-12gb-from-their-websites

best thing nvidia could do is rename it and let them sell them

[molten flame]

Board partners have to redo the packaging and update the firmware of every single GPU that's been manufactured so far

Probably a month or two of delay

[candid flame]

4050 already leaked in the Philippines

[prime jasper]

incredible

[nocturne drift]

Wait what?

It's the opposite. In high fps scenerio you will gain 20-30ms of latency. It's really good at low fps scenarios like in msfs or 4k max cyberpunk when ur fps get yeeted. U turn on dlss 3

However I saw some of my Microcenter friends testing the 4090. They are indeed incredible.

Power draw, thermals, clock speed, oc headroom are all great.

I'm surprised how much less power it draws compared to a 3090.

[prime jasper]

I guess some people are just used to play at high input latency so they don't even really understand how it should feel

[nocturne drift]

I felt the mouse input update in bf2042 immediately.

[prime jasper]

yeah it had massive input delay

but people didnt believe me most of the times

[candid flame]

where those rtx40xx laptops at

I need them

[nocturne drift]

I am def getting a 4090 prob in a year lol. When 2nd hand market have the price down.

I can afford a 4090 but I have to get a 1440p 240hz monitor, a maxed out raptorlake or alderlake platform, so basically a new PC.

[candid flame]

looking forward to more intel gpus

[prime jasper]

i will be looking at RDNA 3

after all im gonna stay at 1440p 165Hz

[candid flame]

I just want an upgradable laptop

[toxic wigeon]

Don't think there'll be much after this or the next gen schlong. It depends.

[candid flame]

Like the failed alienware ones

next gen schlong, nice

[toxic wigeon]

Just get a micro atx case with a cute little handle.

It's all I've known you as.

[candid flame]

It's close to my irl name

[toxic wigeon]

For better or for worse.

Ah.

[candid flame]

monitors take up so much space

I was offered one by my company, ended up not taking it because I have no space

[toxic wigeon]

Ah yeah.

[candid flame]

yeah unfortunately the table that came with this apartment is a round dining one

it takes up a lot of space and is annoying to use 2 laptops on

I've been sitting on the ground using the ikea coffee table I bought when I moved in lol

[dry pike]

frame.work 🙂

[candid flame]

framework doesn't have upgradable gpus right?

you would need to use eGPU

[dry pike]

so far yes, unless you get an external gpu

[candid flame]

if you use an eGPU, you would need an external monitor as well to fully (almost) utilize the gpu

so then it's just a desktop with a really thin case and a giant brick

[molten flame]

CPU gonna be late

[dry pike]

Congratz on getting new hardware anyway 🙂

[molten flame]

Ty

Also ordered B550I mini-ITX motherboard

That PSU is SFX 650W, fits in the hand lol

[nocturne drift]

I am trying to sell my 2080ti ftw3 ultra lol

I wanna start an asus strix collection

[toxic wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/780512032109494313/1030352461543784509/ezgif-3-73d4920680.gif

Have to share this.

[molten flame]

[toxic wigeon]

@lofty light Reckon I could make a computer that costs much less than this?

[lofty light]

[quick locust]

How does DirectStorage 1.1 compare to io_uring and nvidia-fs.ko?

[dry pike]

Does that case have a kind of a conservatory like addon in the front? 😄

[toxic wigeon]

Who knows.

I literally just made a PC for 2.4K cheaper.

That's better than that.

[dry pike]

But does that have an SSD drive slot in the top? I think not!

[toxic wigeon]

Nah but the SSD is larger anyways.

[dry pike]

Found the computer because the case looked weird https://www.acer.com/us-en/predator/desktops-and-all-in-ones/predator-orion/orion-7000

"Look at me, I'm a Nintendo"

[pale quartz]

they aren't similar, DS 1.1 is a generic implementation for asset decompression streaming which none of the other 2 can do

[quick locust]

What about 1.0 in comparison

So the diff is DS is compression while the others are direct gpu to storage apis without compression

[pale quartz]

[quick locust]

Would proton then be able to utilise both at once

[pale quartz]

nope

DS is windows only

[quick locust]

And wouldnt be able to be translated through proton?