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pale quartz
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thats what im saying

terse glade
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but not into an dangerously low level thanks god

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well at least in my case

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ofc you can't copy my settings to anyone

pale quartz
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ryzen targets voltage on a predictive basis using 4 metrics at current load is the tldr

terse glade
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it should be a similair setup

pale quartz
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you cant

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ryzen cross settings dont work because different motherboards have different voltage targets at stock from each other

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just because it works for you doesnt mean itll work for other, even with the same processor

terse glade
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b450 in my case

pale quartz
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yeah, motherboard not chipset

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memory voltages also highly influence CPU stability aswell, so some normie who hasnt touched or deals with memory has a probable chance of blue screening even with a gold bin

terse glade
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as far as i can see it only affects the boost on modern ryzens

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so the worst you can do is a little bit reducing its performance

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but i never would notice it

humble iris
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I installed that 3080 TI FTW the other day, and was getting well over 100+ FPS average with full ultra settings, 4K, RT=ON, etc.. with a 6+ years old CPU 6950X at stock clock and it was at around 40% CPU usage. So "Cores" not just "threads" really matter with BF2042. I wish I would have done some more testing with it. But it confirms what most say about having more cores for BF2042, it really does matter.

brave path
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Do you guys know if Logitech add rgb light on g502x wired mouse or they probably not

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Cuz the new wired version doesn’t have rgb

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But for wireless version have rgb and non rgb

storm osprey
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G502x does have rgb

brave path
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But I choose to get wired verison

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So are they gonna make like g502x hero

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just asking to know cuz the last gen as light speed release first 3 years ago after hero was launch 2 years ago so it 1 year ahead

humble iris
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Doesn't it have the hero sensor?

brave path
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it does but I mean the model name

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For wired

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Logitech doesn’t really add much rgb in their peripheral

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even the wired headset got no rgb but wireless for g733 has rgb

humble iris
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I think it will work the same without RGB

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lol

quick locust
quick locust
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Odroid M1 SBC review and demo. Includes installing an operating system from the Internet using the Petitboot firmware, and running Ubuntu from an NVMe SSD, and Debian from a SATA SSD.

My previous review of the Odroid N2+ is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pong1zJQgoc

You can find the M1 on the Hardkernel website here:
https://www.hardker...

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molten flame
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Lenovo RTX 4090 pictured by Lenovo manager Wolfstame, Lenovo China Gaming Desktop Product Planning Manager, posted new photos of the upcoming RTX 4090 GPU. The new GPU has been pictured alongside the Lenovo gaming laptop, it is massive, that’s for sure. The Legion Y9000X is an 16-inch laptop with a dimension of 35.8×26.0 cm. Lenovo’s […]

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Do I see

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13 heatpipes for the cooler

toxic wigeon
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HEATER.

terse glade
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It will be a disaster for Nvidia because no one will ever able to run these cards with the energy prices going up 2000%

molten flame
quick locust
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🔥

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Looks like a radeon VII

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aka just an alu block

humble iris
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I have no interest in 4000 series.

toxic wigeon
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Don't think many do unless they actually need that extra power.

molten flame
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Energy costs have gone up so much for most of the world so it's unappealing

umbral crater
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Better get them coal mines up and running

cursive marten
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ah so my mouse is starting to fail, great

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right mouse button is starting to flicker.

tropic field
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Another card that can't fit in my tower 👍

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Speaking of gpus, has anyone here had experience with power color's support

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It's been 4 weeks and they have yet to send me a replacement for my 6700xt

molten flame
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RX 7000 series GPUs may hit close to 4 GHz clocks, 1 GHz higher than 6950XT

prime jasper
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what kind of power draw they have tho

molten flame
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360W for 7900XT but actual draw is 400+W for AIB

prime jasper
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yikes

molten flame
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There's 2 variants of the RTX 4090, one is aimed at "efficiency" at 450W TDP while the other is ~660W

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Meanwhile RX 7900XT barely higher rating than the 6950XT

quick locust
prime jasper
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its still high, but by comparison AMD is doing a better job at power efficiency than their competition

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the real question is how they will compare in performance, theres been some leaked benchmarks for both and 7000 series seems to pull ahead in some, it would be great for NVIDIA to finally be behind for at least a while, though im still doubtful

molten flame
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RTX 4000 announcement just over 2 hours away

prime jasper
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ah was wondering when it would be

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i'll keep an eye on the news

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I think AMD are probably saving their announcements until after they see exactly what NVIDIA has to offer, so hopefully we'll know more about RDNA3 and the 7000 series GPUs in a week or two

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Isn't amd launching the new ryzens next week

prime jasper
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honestly I don't know, for some reason I haven't kept up with it all as much this time around

prime jasper
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"amd optimized" ddr5 has arrived to stores near me

molten flame
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AMD stated that DDR5 will be as cheap as DDR4 is now in 2023

prime jasper
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doubt

molten flame
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13th gen and Zen 4 are just meh options tbh, 13th gen is the last generation for its socket and Zen 4 has early adopter issues

prime jasper
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maybe somewhere but here, no

molten flame
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I'm probably just gonna settle with a 5700X since it's $220 here

dry pike
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Kinda need some reviews to test the whole "amd optimized" marketing.

toxic wigeon
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Oh?

molten flame
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it's the same situation as Intel optimized kits of DDR4

prime jasper
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yes i have no clue what it actually means

molten flame
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marketing

toxic wigeon
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Early adopter issues?

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In which way?

molten flame
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Ryzen 7000 already has 9 different AGESA updates despite not having even launched yet

toxic wigeon
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AGESA?

molten flame
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AGESA is the software for the CPU and chipset iirc

dry pike
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" AGESA is responsible for the initialization of the CPU cores, chipset, main memory, and the HyperTransport controller."

toxic wigeon
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Ah right and the software has ran into a bit of an issue. How many pre launch AGESA updates are there usually?

molten flame
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current Ryzen CPUs already have issues like USB ports not working or running at limited speed because of AGESA issues

toxic wigeon
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Cause 9 sounds really bad.

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How many updates did Zen 3 have pre launch?

molten flame
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none

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iirc

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actually 1 or 2

prime jasper
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hope someone tries amd optimized vs non amd optimized ram on 7000 series

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i doubt there is much difference

molten flame
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it won't make a difference, I had a Intel optimized kit of DDR4 for my last Ryzen PC

dry pike
# prime jasper i doubt there is much difference

If it is the same chips with just different presets for each platform then you can just manually enter the preset if you lack the right XMP or AMD Optimized profile.
If there are more differences then that is an issue.

pale quartz
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Zen 3 also had 3 AGESA revisions bundled in with 1.0.2.7comboPi2 before it officially came out, it's nothing out the ordinary

molten flame
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9 is a lot tho

pale quartz
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yeah cause it's a new chipset built from scratch lol, don't say it's early adopter issues, it isnt

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ADL had 12 revisions before it's public release, there's nothing scary about it

pale quartz
prime jasper
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i just wanna see AM5 mobo prices so i knows how much i need to pay

pale quartz
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expect around $300-$400 initially

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x670e $600

dry pike
pale quartz
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it's also the best for most tech enthusiast's aswell, 4 DIMMs on DDR5 is a no go, so this helps 99% of users

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there's barely any point to overclocking the dies either unless you've got even more mature memory, the gains are less than with DDR4

pale quartz
dry pike
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Finding fast DDR5 AMD optimized memory with proper timings and without RGB is ~~surprisingly ~~hard 😄

toxic wigeon
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Just get something like a B750 and you should be good.

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Skip out on the motherboard gen if its chipset already needed 9 updates.

pale quartz
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occurs every generation

toxic wigeon
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Maybe so.

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If the first motherboard gen doesn't have many issues that's fine.

pale quartz
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that's why there are updates in the first place

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it would be scary, if there weren't any, not the other way round

toxic wigeon
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Though it does have think a bit.

pale quartz
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it doesn't, I can assure you it's perfectly normal in how firmwares are developed

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there's nothing out the ordinary, intel, AMD, and Nvidia all do this

toxic wigeon
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Doesn't affect me anyways, I'm waiting for the 9800x3d cause 3d cache go brr.

pale quartz
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you mean the 7800x3d?

molten flame
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9000 series won't have 3D branding in the name

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neither will 7000 iirc

pale quartz
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it will

toxic wigeon
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I'm skipping a gen.

pale quartz
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9000 is Zen 5, so you'll be waiting till the end of Q4 2024/beginning of 2025

toxic wigeon
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Yes.

pale quartz
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fair enough

halcyon zodiac
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🤣

pastel field
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Hi

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I would like to ask

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I accidentally clicked on configure Nvidia control panel configure sound

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How do I revert back

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It changed my display

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Anyone?

midnight crypt
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good luck

prime jasper
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Woah

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DLSS 3

pastel field
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Nvm I found the solution

prime jasper
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4090 is 1600 dollars

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🥴

molten flame
prime jasper
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4060 at 329

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2-4x faster?

proud trellis
toxic wigeon
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What is its actual power?

prime jasper
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Mhm I'll wait for benchmarks

toxic wigeon
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The GHZ.

proud trellis
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idk if its confirmed

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ive literally just come on pc and seen that image

prime jasper
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idk but they were flexing about 3ghz overclocks

molten flame
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with the default cooler

prime jasper
pale quartz
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fyi 2-4x is RT, not raster

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don't fall for the marketing bs

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it's 2x the 3090

molten flame
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doubt it's actually even 2x

prime jasper
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They're gonna try and push for better RT performance cause that's their bread and butter now

pale quartz
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Nvidia need a way to justify their con $1200 4080 and $1600 4090 which is why the RT point is intentionally not there

prime jasper
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Mhm

molten flame
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gonna be sold out in seconds and won't see stock again for weeks

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4nm node is in kinda short supply

heady pawn
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Bro you can’t justify those prices

toxic wigeon
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So they're releasing an in game tool for it.

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You know you may as well clock your 4080 like a 3080ti and work off that.

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But better yet. Don't get it unless you really need it.

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The VRAM looks nice though.

pale quartz
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there we go folks DLSS 3.0 unusable below RTX 40! better fleece out your wallet!

terse glade
terse glade
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the 4060 didnt got mentioned anywhere yet

prime jasper
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Well looks like 4000 series is not an option for me then lol

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Will wait and see what happens with AMDs offering and if that's pricey as well then I'll just try and get myself a 3080 on the cheap when people start selling them

pale quartz
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AUD 4090 is 2969 MSRP

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also, these are fake prices, AIBs will cost more

prime jasper
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69

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Nice

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But in all seriousness that's ridiculous

pale quartz
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AIB £1800 4090s will be out soon S_kek

prime jasper
toxic wigeon
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They're going to be releasing the lower end bits later.

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With this whole RTX mod they're releasing I do wonder if it's specifically to work on Nvidia or it can work with AMD with the released mod.

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Back in Serious Sam RTX it took a bit for the guy to make it AMD compatible so I'm curious.

pale quartz
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4060 isn't till next year

pale quartz
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what they aren't saying is it'll be impossible to use this with games that have EAC

toxic wigeon
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Lol the 4080 12 gig is said to be as 4070 rebrand.

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They know people won't buy the 40 series cards because of the price and power hike so they have a bunch of features locked behind the cards.

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DLSS 3.0 is locked to only the 40 series cards right? @pale quartz

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As in.

pale quartz
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yes

toxic wigeon
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Hard locked. It's impossible to go onto the 30 series cards.

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Or soft locked.

pale quartz
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as in people on rtx 30 and below physically can't use DLSS 3

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yes

toxic wigeon
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Damn.

prime jasper
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Good on EVGA for stepping away from all this, they had enough of NVIDIAs shit and moved on. Hopefully consumers will start to see more what they are really like as well.

pale quartz
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this consumer base is more brain washed into the Nvidia logo than in any other market

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not only will people like it, they'll defend it

prime jasper
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lmao

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people complaining about the price are getting shit on by tons of people, citing 'advancing technologies' as a valid argument

pale quartz
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this happens every generation you cant reason with Nvidia fanboys

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it's why Nvidia make things exclusive to begin with

frozen fractal
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@toxic wigeonwe eating good this year

frozen fractal
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dlss 3

prime jasper
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now would be a good time for AMD to come out with something equally or more powerful for a lower price and piss off all the fanboys

toxic wigeon
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I'm not getting a 40 card do note.

frozen fractal
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oh,

toxic wigeon
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Dlss 3 only works with 40.

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Ye I love my 3080.

frozen fractal
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im hoping the reviews comes out BEFORE launch, so we can see the difference with 12gb and 16gb of the 4080

pale quartz
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lol

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hint, won't be any

prime jasper
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in the meantime my 1080 will have to do its best

pale quartz
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announcement is in a few weeks release date is the 3rd

molten flame
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Nvidia screwing its own users

frozen fractal
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if price is an issue, just wait for cheaper less powerful gpus, nvidia always started strong with the best in line and then released less expensive cards months after

pale quartz
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these cards are a scam con don't defend this nonsense

frozen fractal
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"cards are a scam"

i like to see your magic ball you see the performance numbers with 🙂

molten flame
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4080 12GB is based on the AD104 die, while 4080 16GB is AD103

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This is a fucking scam

pale quartz
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S_kek I was the one who told people the 4090 was double the 3090

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perhaps listen to me when I tell you Nvidia are out to fleece you for your money every generation, and you're falling for it hook line and sinker

molten flame
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I'm not buying RTX 4000 fuck them lmao

prime jasper
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cards haven't been priced right since the 1000 series

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also happens to be the last time I actually bought a card new

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with this pricing the best option most people have is to buy second hand and stay a few generations behind

pale quartz
frozen fractal
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nothing wrong with that mate

toxic wigeon
prime jasper
# frozen fractal nothing wrong with that mate

there is when games are actually starting to demand more performance wise and older hardware just can't keep up, even at 1080p playing 2042 gets me mixed results and I have to play on all low to hit anywhere close to my monitors refresh rate

pale quartz
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the GPU market never ceases to amaze me we have people actively defending robber barons

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this happened with Turing and it never stopped

frozen fractal
pale quartz
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that's, founders

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it's fake

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learn what MSRP is

frozen fractal
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fake ?

pale quartz
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yes, fake, AIB pricing is more

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founders editions are paper launched cards

frozen fractal
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we had aib cards selling for msrp, here in denmark, both in 3080 and 3090

toxic wigeon
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Watch AMD undercut Nvidia hard.

frozen fractal
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on launch

pale quartz
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yeah you had AIBs selling for MSRP because they were being paid by Nvidia

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that doesn't happen this time round lmao

prime jasper
frozen fractal
prime jasper
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looking forward to having an all AMD build in the near future

frozen fractal
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competition is always great for us consumers

pale quartz
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spoiler alert RDNA3 is double the raster of the 6900xt, will be cheaper than nvidias offering

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tldr

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draw less power that's it

toxic wigeon
prime jasper
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and if it forces nvidia to rethink, both in pricing and power efficiency then its only a good thing

pale quartz
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it wont

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these cards are expensive to make

toxic wigeon
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People are losing their minds in 4chan but I can't say I blame them.

pale quartz
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they are cooling 600 watts at boost, you can't do that with cheapo materials

toxic wigeon
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What's the estimated price of a 7800xt?

pale quartz
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the bar is $800 rn

prime jasper
pale quartz
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cheaper RDNA will be $600

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and the 7900xt 1.1k, prices can change

frozen fractal
toxic wigeon
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That is crazy.

pale quartz
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it's double last gen, pricing is pretty effective

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you're getting 6900xt performance for $600 tldr

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and for those wondering Lovelace and RDNA3 both have AV1 encoding

prime jasper
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actually thinking about it, locking down DLSS 3.0 to 40 series card doesn't just hurt the consumer, but won't it effect game dev as well. I assume they have a common API for DLSS, but implementing versions that are locked to specific generations of cards must cause a fair number of issues. I may be wrong there

pale quartz
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yes

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you're exactly right not only that but they aren't going to update it for that very reason

prime jasper
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such bullshit lmao

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fuck nvidia

pale quartz
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modders aren't going to save DLSS 3.0 either as it's APIs use custom RT accelerators that don't exist in rtx 30

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how the frame interpolation manages to work

frozen fractal
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these gpus have always been about progress, staying on the latest gen means having the latest tech,

molten flame
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Don't think there is a 4060 or 4070 coming, not until 6 months at least for a 4070

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4060 may be replaced with RTX 3000 series GPU

pale quartz
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yeah sure paying out your mortgage payment on a product that will be dead weight in 2 years

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excellent idea!

molten flame
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There is so much RTX 3000 GPUs in inventory right now that they won't need to make a 4060

frozen fractal
pale quartz
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haha yeah sure for half what you paid

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excellent investment

frozen fractal
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lol

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everything is loosing value over time in the gaming and pc tech

pale quartz
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I'll never understand how Nvidia buyers like you justify such con pricing

frozen fractal
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i never ever thing about how well it stays at value 2 years later

prime jasper
pale quartz
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no no it's progress!

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only if you pay for it!

frozen fractal
pale quartz
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you don't get it dude

prime jasper
pale quartz
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take off your Nvidia wind screen wipers

prime jasper
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but not the previous gen, which is required for those on 3000 series

pale quartz
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DLSS 3.0, doesn't work on older cards

toxic wigeon
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It might be progress but this is the wrong way to do it.

prime jasper
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if they make the switch to V3, then 3000 series loses support for DLSS in all future games

toxic wigeon
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These cards are so expensive and absolute energy hogs.

prime jasper
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unless the devs go out of their way to support multiple gens of DLSS API

frozen fractal
pale quartz
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that's impossible

prime jasper
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which may be a real pain to do

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or impossible

prime jasper
pale quartz
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you can't support multiple iterations of APIs on DLSS

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it's one injection only

prime jasper
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NVIDIA done fucked up real bad

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3000 series will be useless in a few years time

frozen fractal
pale quartz
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I did warn folk ampere was a dead buy product

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and I'm doing it again now with rtx 40 S_kek just we have this guy defending them

frozen fractal
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im defending them?

pale quartz
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yes

frozen fractal
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no im just wondering how you can guess so much on everything,

while im here stating "wait for reviews"

pale quartz
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they literally, told you

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they told you it was double

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but sure continue this hopium nonsense about "latest generation" so gamers get fleeced

frozen fractal
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i much rather have reviews testing out gpus in multiple games that some best case scenario

pale quartz
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spoiler it's double the 3090

toxic wigeon
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Err I'm not sure if I asked this but does AMD has its own sort of DLSS or gimmick?

pale quartz
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happy now?

frozen fractal
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but again,

im buying the gpu no matter what the reviews say, for me its just a matter of which one i decide on

toxic wigeon
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Just get the 4080 16 gig.

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That's the easiest simplest purchase you can make.

prime jasper
toxic wigeon
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If going for Nvidia.

pale quartz
frozen fractal
toxic wigeon
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I would really suggest waiting for a 7800xt.

prime jasper
frozen fractal
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we have call of duty coming out in october*

toxic wigeon
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What's your card.

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Thing is too.

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This will be scalped hard.

prime jasper
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NVIDIA will push devs to support the latest, and the latest only, and will likely retract support for any DLSS 2.0 based games and info on that version of the API

pale quartz
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don't need to ask

toxic wigeon
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I'm asking what specifically.

pale quartz
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it won't be scalped

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thankfully anyways

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supply is much better this generation, it'll still be paper launched

prime jasper
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we had enough of that

toxic wigeon
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How easy was it to get a 20 series card at launch?

frozen fractal
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EASY

pale quartz
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impossible, because the 2080ti was artificially limited

frozen fractal
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20 series was in stock all the time almost

pale quartz
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prices soared 1.5x above msrp

frozen fractal
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2070-2080

pale quartz
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the 2080 was sold out for months

frozen fractal
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here in denmark the marked was way different

prime jasper
frozen fractal
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30 series sold out within hours

pale quartz
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the world isn't just Denmark

frozen fractal
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nope

toxic wigeon
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I know for a fact that the TI variant is often released months after the initial release.

prime jasper
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denmark isn't the whole world

frozen fractal
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thats why i share MY view, while you share yours, there not ONE simple answer 🙂

prime jasper
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even the EU markets vary wildly, let alone everywhere else

toxic wigeon
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Such a punch in the gut too.

pale quartz
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there is one simple answer lol, you're just deciding everything based on a proximity of your own country

prime jasper
pale quartz
prime jasper
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and general availability was poor

frozen fractal
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3080 was really scares, got mine for msrp ordering 54 min after launch,

waited 3 months for it to arrive,

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having 3 years warranty on that also give it some better resell value

prime jasper
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in many countries warranties only apply to the original buyer, if you resell the warranty is invalidated.

frozen fractal
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oh well

prime jasper
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🙄

frozen fractal
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spiderman getting dlss 3

molten flame
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so no DLSS for RTX 3000 and below?

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hopefully they have DLSS 2 as well

candid flame
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what, DLSS 3 is only for the new rtx 4000?

molten flame
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Nvidia giving AMD too much opportunity with that dreadful 4080 segmentation
AMD is probably happy because now they can price Navi 32 much higher than they were anticipating

molten flame
candid flame
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that's doo doo

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what do I have to do then? get an rtx 4000 laptop?

molten flame
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I was right

frozen fractal
molten flame
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forgot that it's already out

prime jasper
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Plenty of people are saying they will switch to team red if the performance is good and prices are lower, so AMD should take advantage of that

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Just need to wait for RDNA 3 performance to be shown

candid flame
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can't wait to get my hand of a rtx4000 laptop only for nvidia to release the rtx5000 cards the following year haHAA

frozen fractal
toxic wigeon
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Is it possible to reposition the task bar in win11?

umbral crater
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For the time being

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Technically you can but you need a workaround

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prime jasper
prime jasper
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i'd be worried about that thing ripping a PCIe slot off

storm osprey
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yea i thought those reinforced pcie slots was a joke, but now im thinking otherwise

prime jasper
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I think a lot of people are gonna try and go for vertical GPU mounts with this thing, would put far less strain on it

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we knew that the 4000 series was gonna run hot, the power consumption is through the roof, but I wasn't expecting a thick triple slot card with literally most of it being heatsink fins

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and I doubt the AIB partners are gonna be able to do anything different with their designs, they're all probably gonna be triple slot, though with different cooling configurations

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Imagine the amount of heat coming from 600+ watts gpu

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You have now sauna

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I already get a fair amount of heat output from my 5 year old 1080, I don't think id want any of those cards anywhere near my build. I have poor ventilation and my bedroom is always incredibly hot so it would most likely thermal throttle any time I play a demanding game.

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the fact that even the 4080 is over 500 watts is ridiculous honestly

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all considerations for power efficiency out of the window, gotta push those raytraced frames by any means necessary

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It won't draw that much at stock settings

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the 3080 was drawing about 390W peak, so its about 120W more...

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jeez

prime jasper
#

Considering they said they had +3ghz Overclocks, yes it will draw the max with those kind of settings

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If it will actually Overclock that well

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well as always the professional overclockers will do their best to squeeze every bit of performance out of it regardless of power draw

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whether it will be viable for the average consumer to overclock isn't clear yet, will have to wait for official reviews

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Default tdp honestly isn't that bad if the card delivers performance for it but i doubt it will enough

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Maybe im wrong and it blows radeon into dust but i doubt it

frozen fractal
#

that to me is already the biggest news

prime jasper
#

Radeon will have much less tdp

frozen fractal
#

cant wait until some give ut 2004 a look with that tool

pale quartz
#

4080 is 500 watts at stock, it's not overclocking the card

prime jasper
#

Looked pic tak posted earlier

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It has it at 340W

pale quartz
#

yeah thats it's default TGP, it's boost TGP are factory settings

prime jasper
#

What kind of factory boost justifies around 200w more

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The fuck

pale quartz
#

+200/+300mhz on the core clock mostly is where it's coming from, can't hit those targets without it

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Nvidia loses is the tldr if they keep it around 370 watts to AMD, which is why it's pumped out the wazoo

quick locust
#

Finally a challenger to my PSU

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Now nvlink them

molten coral
#

4090 - 1959 Euro
4080 16GB - 1469 Euro
4070 4080 12GB - 1099 Euro

pale quartz
#

you mean, the 4070 for 1099 S_kek

quick locust
#

4070 Plus

molten coral
#

4070 camouflaged

pale quartz
#

circuits there only pull a max of 1.5kW for most households, anything more and it fries

quick locust
#

Ya

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While here its 3200 ish W

pale quartz
#

S_kek you're pulling that with your intel processor anyways

quick locust
#

Naw

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8700K doesnt have too high

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It's not an 11900K running avx 512

pale quartz
#

just set it to 6GHz problem solved

quick locust
#

11900K build with nvlink 4090

prime jasper
#

5090 will be pulling 2000W at this pace

quick locust
#

Turns your gigabyte psu into gigabits

frozen fractal
#

gigabyte goes BOOM

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@prime jasperhttps://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/xje8et/comment/ip81zoj/?context=3 we should have made that bet about dlss

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tldr
old cards will keep rocking the dlss 2 parts of dlss where dlss 3 is enabled

frozen fractal
pale quartz
#

it really didn't lol, because it's correct

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that statement is saying absolutely nothing

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the main advantage of DLSS 3 is frame interpolation, and guess what, you can't use it, no matter how much the non answer to the question on the forums is posted

frozen fractal
#

look at the conversation we had there, we where chatting about dlss 2 being obsolete and not used in newer titles

pale quartz
#

the conversation you were discussing was wrong to begin with so I'm not sure where you're going with that

frozen fractal
#

if you are using a non 4000 series cards, you just use the dlss 2 functions in dlss 3 enabled games

terse glade
pale quartz
#

yeah sure and get absolutely 0 difference from what you're already getting, please stop denying why Nvidia deliberately omissioned exclusivity from their own announcement

#

GTC is a marketing presentation, not a hardware specification review

frozen fractal
#

i got something wrong by posting facts now?

interesting when you complained earlier about nvidia not supporting dlss 2 anymore

pale quartz
#

that wasn't me but sure go on lol

frozen fractal
pale quartz
#

that is with raster performance, not DLSS

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keep up dude

frozen fractal
#

alright 🙂

pale quartz
buoyant sapphire
#

I don't know if this is the right channel, but I recently got bf1 on steam and whenever I open it up, it loads the start page but I can't click on anything. Then after a bit or clicking on another window, I can't interact with the bf1 game screen/application at all. I have bf5 and bf5 works perfectly for me so I don't know what Im doing wrong

pale quartz
buoyant sapphire
#

ahhh

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i see

#

that makes sense

buoyant sapphire
pale quartz
brave path
#

do u guys have any idea why evga don’t make rtx 40 series graphic card cuz everyone is talking about evga and I have no idea what happening to evga cuz I just saw a article about evga leave gpu market

storm osprey
brave path
#

and still not sure what they meant disrespect between evga and nvidia so idk

storm osprey
brave path
#

till evga is all gone by end of 2022

pale quartz
#

there's also a variety of other reasons for example forcing them to take the shortfall for card defects even if it's Nvidias fault and whatnot, the list is endless

molten flame
#

Sucks that 4080 12GB starts at $900 and should be a 4070, AMD has opportunity to price Navi 32 very high

prime jasper
#

Just like i thought

molten flame
#

4090 Strix

quick locust
#

Big boi

prime jasper
#

heater

cursive marten
molten flame
#

4090 is the only new GPU worth considering

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4080 is a joke

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Even the 16GB model isn't much faster than 3090Ti

#

4090 looks like it's way faster than the 4080 16GB

cursive marten
#

the 4090 is a 4 slot card from what i hear.

molten flame
#

Founders Edition is 3.5 slot and actually a little bit shorter than 3090 FE

toxic wigeon
#

In this regard nvidia is kinda like Intel.

#

Honestly.

#

Your main reasons for getting a 4080 16 gig is for better 4k, dlss and rt cores.

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I say better 4k as in more vram for it.

quick locust
#

Well any of them are rather overkill for games rn imo

quick locust
toxic wigeon
#

It's so thick.

molten flame
#

EVGA seems interested in doing GPUs for Intel but no mention of AMD

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Also I think there will be a 4080Ti with 20GB on 320-bit bus next year

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4070 with 10GB on 160-bit

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4060 probably won't exist until late 2023 or even 2024

quick locust
molten flame
#

4070 is cut-down version of 4080 12GB

molten flame
#

Yeah cut the memory bus

cursive marten
lofty light
prime jasper
#

My keyboard came. I really like how the lights look on it

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its so nice

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and the switches feel great

lofty light
#

Noice, what switches did you get in it?

prime jasper
#

kailh reds

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it didn't come with tool for pulling the caps tho

brave path
#

u guys think that the Logitech g502 x wired version come with rgb when Logitech launch the trailer

#

as far the new Logitech g502 x doesn’t got lightsync rgb

dry pike
#

Kinda wish the xtrfy branding would go away but that is just a pet peve of mine

prime jasper
#

they are proud of their product

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paid 89,90€ for it

dry pike
#

Seems about right for a good off the shelves keyboard these days 🙂

prime jasper
#

i don't think the colour matched product picture tho

dry pike
#

The white color or?

prime jasper
#

but its not as grey as this one either

#

yeah the white

dry pike
#

Probably just a question of product lighting

prime jasper
#

likely yeah

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not complaining tho its nice looking

terse glade
prime jasper
#

i know when ordering stuff online it might look slightly different

terse glade
#

the switches are very quiet i suppose

prime jasper
#

easy to get as its kailh red switches

#

not some manufacturers own switches that use weird caps

quick locust
#

I'm just a mx blue user

#

Click clack

prime jasper
#

i hate clicky

quick locust
#

Would have buckling spring if shipping from the US wasn't both by kidneys and my liver

molten flame
#

I like very silent switches that still give the feeling of a click

quick locust
#

I prefer clicky

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Silent only on laptops due to work

prime jasper
#

i have shortcut for calculator

terse glade
prime jasper
#

but no numpad

quick locust
#

I have numpad

#

I like it both for work and for keybinds

prime jasper
#

modmenus

quick locust
#

Only thing I don't like about this kb is the glossy black frame which is fingerprint magnet

prime jasper
#

i wanted to saw off my numpad

quick locust
#

Why

prime jasper
#

thats how much i used it

#

xD

#

more desk space

quick locust
#

I can type on it as fast as my calculator

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Old pic I changed it a bit but meh

#

Moved switch so isnt a mess on top of my desk

#

Daskeyboard Model S keyboard, its alright

#

Better than the MS keyboard I had before it

molten flame
#

I'm gonna wall mount my next build, mini-ITX shouldn't be too much weight especially with a SFX PSU, stock cooler and RX 6600

#

biggest advantages of having a wall mounted PC is that it doesn't take up desk space and it acts as a wall decoration

prime jasper
#

My corner

quick locust
#

With my wall I could mount even the heaviest water cooled full tower lol

prime jasper
#

gonna get better secondary monitor at some point

molten flame
#

well I should do that anyway

#

regardless of weight

quick locust
#

I just use one 24 inch monitor

#

Havent mounted it to wall or anything since the stand is pretty good

prime jasper
#

also i need better dp cable to make it go trough the cable management thing on the monitor arm

molten flame
#

everything should just be wireless

#

wireless PSU when

quick locust
#

That's just a tesla coil

dry pike
#

You can drop the titanium rating then 😄

molten flame
#

cable management will be tricky with wall mount PC

quick locust
#

You could put it on hinge so both sides could be accessible if needed

molten flame
#

unique wall mount build

quick locust
dry pike
#

Installed the new 2022 Windows 11 update. Dark Mode taskmanager looking slick!

umbral tundra
#

Can someone help me with battlefield 5?

dry pike
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umbral tundra
#

I have problem with the game where if i move the game looks really bad

coarse nimbus
pale quartz
dry pike
molten flame
#

Zen 2 on Windows 11

pale quartz
#

also @dry pike are you on the insider build?

dry pike
pale quartz
dry pike
pale quartz
#

yeah i was curious as im on the RP build, will exit it later

molten flame
#

Just saw some screen shots of DLSS 3, at least without a very high base framerate pre-interpolation, it is essentially cheating benchmarks

#

Think of how TAA looks a lot better once you have a decent framerate and apply that tenfold

dry pike
pale quartz
dry pike
#

Figures

molten flame
#

4090 price in Europe is ridiculous

#

all models $2999

prime jasper
#

Placeholder price

#

Says you cant order one

molten flame
#

they might price it high to make it not sell out so quickly but that wouldn't stop very many

#

people that buy a 4090 would pay any price

prime jasper
#

I know this store, its where i order most of the stuff, they do it for new products that aren't on pre order

#

The actual price gets updated when they are actually available

#

their website says selling starts 12th October

dry pike
prime jasper
#

and that prices are not final and changes before release

#

Price will be higher because of tax

#

Higher than USA i mean

buoyant sapphire
#

@pale quartz wait, plugging in a controller solved the problem

#

that was so weird

quick locust
molten flame
#

Radeon RX 7000 vs RTX 4000 price battle could see AMD wipe the floor with Nvidia as RDNA 3 boards are allegedly much cheaper to make

prime jasper
#

sadly people still buy nvidia

#

also in my experience nvidia drivers are more stable, haven't crashed once yet

quick locust
#

I've had minor issues with them

#

Some game specific

#

Like they broke doom eternal perf once

prime jasper
#

i hope they have made the drivers more better

toxic wigeon
#

My friend who got a new monitor had to soft reinstall his AMD driver.

#

That shit is scary.

molten flame
#

RX 5000 series was pretty broken but RX 6000 fixed a lot

toxic wigeon
#

Sorry not soft reinstall, Safe reinstall.

molten flame
#

Best way to ensure driver stability in my experience is just buy downloading only the driver by itself, no additional software like GeForce Experience

#

GFE caused a lot of problems for me in some games

prime jasper
prisma anvil
#

how is 4090 is the only gpu that makes sense.

#

best bang for ur bucks in the 40 series

#

what a total joke

#

I am skipping

molten flame
#

4080 16GB is only 30% faster than 3090Ti in rasterization at best

#

4090 is 80% faster

prisma anvil
#

4090 has the most cuda core per dollar

molten flame
#

Massive performance difference between 4090 and 4080 this new generation, unlike with 3000 series

prisma anvil
#

and it has more bandwidth and vram. Nvidia said f the average customers

molten flame
#

4080 class is gonna get waffle stomped by AMD

quick locust
prisma anvil
#

4080 12gb my azz

#

4070 at best

#

4090 has 2.3x more cuda cores

molten flame
quick locust
#

lol

prisma anvil
#

I am getting like a 3080ti for under 600 if my friend request me to do a build again

molten flame
#

2.3x more CUDA and 2.2x more memory bandwidth

prisma anvil
#

f the 40 series

quick locust
#

4080 12GB has less mem bandwidth than my 2080 ti

#

It'll still be faster as its not the only thing but ya

prisma anvil
#

2080ti still handle anything u throw at it

#

my friend's world #1 10600kf+3070ti

#

beaten by my 8700k+2080ti

#

I tuned his ram to 4000 cl15 15 15 34 4x8

#

I have 3733 cl14 14 14 32 2x8

#

he got 4x8 advantage as well

quick locust
#

I know

#

I run 8700K and 2080 ti as well

#

With 4x8

#

Slightly lower mem clock than you though but same timings

prime jasper
prisma anvil
#

win11 22h2? broked my pc

#

I would stutter in any online games

#

I reverted back to win10 today LOL

quick locust
prisma anvil
#

I stutter only in online games

#

cyberpunk HZD 0 issues

quick locust
#

That was before I changed mem

prisma anvil
#

destiny 2 2042 unplayable

#

like wtf

quick locust
#

Dont have a newer run

prisma anvil
#

now back to win10 its perfect

prime jasper
#

im on 21H2

#

lol

prisma anvil
#

good

#

stay there

quick locust
#

You get 50% higher than me in timespy

#

Lol

prisma anvil
#

It took me a whole day to troubleshoot

#

I reseated my cpu, swapped gpu, I tried everything

#

turns out its win11

quick locust
#

Lul

#

How do you get so high timespy

prisma anvil
#

my cinebench score, TS score, ram latency all look normal

quick locust
prime jasper
#

ah

#

should be available but its not

#

We will offer a phased rollout, and you will be able to access the first major update to Windows 11 via Windows Update when data shows your device is ready

#

when data shows your device is ready

#

windows moment

prisma anvil
#

Do not install

#

I did and I took a MASSIVE L

prime jasper
#

it doesn't mean it happens on every device

midnight crypt
#

imagine willingly updating to Win11

prisma anvil
prisma anvil
#

I went to win11 to improve my TS score

prime jasper
#

and i can't install it yet

prisma anvil
#

now I dont do TS run on my personal pc anymore I am gonna stick to win10 till I upgrade to 13th or 14th gen intel with DDR5

#

this is the 12900k + 3090ti I tuned today

#

its a very important person so I did super safe daily

#

instead of XOC

#

AVOID GIGABYTE Z690

#

it wont adjust the ring ratio

#

I was stuck at 3.6ghz on the ring no matter what I type

quick locust
#

4x8 bdie, cache and core oc

#

Paste was sorta new at the time

#

Didnt delid though

#

My vrm barely gets warm on this mobo lol

terse glade
#

Ye I won't go to win11 anytime soon as well

#

Win 10 is just too stable

#

Never change a running system

#

Imagine if AMD will bring out a similar technology like DSSL3 but makes it available on all their GPUs BlobPopcorn

quick locust
#

FSR isn't that far yer

#

Yet*

#

Soon there'll be XeSS xmx and XeSS dp4a too

short pawn
#

Saw there's a new 22.9.1 driver from amd

How is it

midnight crypt
#

probably broke something

brave path
#

Iphone 14 pro can call ems when crash detention whih I never seen it automatically called itself

#

Tbh technology are more artificial intelligence

dry pike
prime jasper
#

i feel bad for people who buy 4080 12gb version

#

also makes me bit angry that they are basically scamming consumers

#

i probably yeet my 3070 and get 7900XT

midnight crypt
#

i mean you get what you pay for

prime jasper
#

nah you get 4070

#

that says 4080 on the box

#

i really hope rdna 3 will be good

#

gotta wait until november

molten flame
#

RTX 4080 16GB is pretty sad as well, $1200 and like 30-40% slower than the $1600 4090 lmao

quick locust
#

What was it jensen said some years ago

#

The more you spend thing

molten flame
#

4090 has 70% more CUDA cores than the 4080 16GB, also 50% more memory bus width

#

4080 is gonna get stomped in the streets by the RX 7700XT

toxic wigeon
#

What does CUDA do again?

molten flame
#

CUDA cores are the shaders

toxic wigeon
#

Oh right.

molten flame
#

Navi 32 has ~250% more cores than current 6700XT

#

It's powerful enough to be called 7800XT instead

#

Up to 8192 shader cores for Navi 32, while Navi 22 (6700XT) has 2560

toxic wigeon
#

Pseudo 7800xt.

molten flame
#

Or 7800

toxic wigeon
#

Oh yeah.

#

How does XT / TI work?

molten flame
#

XT for AMD is usually on the GPU chips with all shader cores enabled, nothing defective

#

Ti is short for Titanium on Nvidia side

toxic wigeon
#

Ah right. For the case of AMD with the way you worded it. Why aren't they all enabled on the base?

#

Or is it more complicated.

quick locust
#

Binning

#

To increase yield you use dies where some parts are fused off

#

Hence why you can have several gpus with the same die but with different cuda or shader count

#

Same with cpus

#

For example 3080, 3080 ti, 3090 and 3090 ti are all the same die, just with different bins and parts fused off

#

Also why you have F versions of intel cpus, the cpu works but igpu is fused off as it failed validation

#

They used to just do this by firmware which is why some people enabled the 4th core on their athlons lol

pale quartz
pale quartz
#

well not impossible, would run like shit

pale quartz
#

they are explicitly disabled on the non XT so you feel compelled to buy the higher end product

quick locust
#

Ya

#

Everyone does it

storm osprey
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formal oak
#

Could a 1660 super run 2042 to any degree at which I could have fun? I know it meets the minimum but im still not sure

storm osprey
#

yes, though cpu and ram is a bigger concern honestly

formal oak
#

i7-11700F

#

and 32 gigs of ram

tropic field
#

I have the xt one but for what it's worth it's a good gpu

storm osprey
#

@formal oak id expect at least 60 fps in most scenarios

formal oak
#

and all graphics set to low?

storm osprey
#

graphic settings dont really change much in 2042 in terms of performance, at least compared to every other game

#

but yes, i made that statement based on low settings

formal oak
#

kk thanks

prime jasper
#

It doesn't exist here

toxic wigeon
#

Ah yeah. Money. Not surprising.

short pawn
toxic wigeon
#

Guess it's cheaper to send out a bunch of graphic cards with their shaders turned off than to make an entirely new card.

molten flame
#

DLSS 3 reduces power draw tremendously for 4000 series, wonder if DLSS already does that for 3000 series ObiThink

nocturne drift
#

welp I just got hacked

#

Any mod here please kick the previous mazda6GT :C

#

thanks

toxic wigeon
#

Holy shit.

nocturne drift
#

yeah

#

Sorry.

#

ahm how to prove its me, my system is a 10850k 3080ti 4000 cl15 15 15 34 samsung bdie

#

I recently tuned a 3090ti asus tuf +12900k + 2x16 samsung DDR5 on a aorus master

lofty light
#

I dunno, that sounds pretty common pepehmmmm

gentle veldt
#

Will 3080 Ti + 5800X be able to play 2042 at 4k 60fps Max settings

toxic wigeon
#

Your GPU can definitely handle it yeah.

gentle veldt
#

My monitor can only do 4k 59hz it's a weird south Korean crossover 404k monitor

#

How about CPU what's better Ryzen or Intel at same price points

toxic wigeon
#

They're pretty much on par.

gentle veldt
#

OK thanks

#

Appreciate the help

toxic wigeon
#

No worries. Is this your current PC?

#

Or are you looking to get these parts.

gentle veldt
#

Looking to get these parts I'm in Australia

#

My current specs are i7-2600 GTX 1050 ti

#

I can just barely play bfv with these parts

toxic wigeon
#

Ahhhh alright.

#

Honestly.

#

@gentle veldt Are you willing to go a little over your budget?

#

Cause I would suggest a 5800x3d.

gentle veldt
#

What's that

#

Yeah I don't mind going over a bit

toxic wigeon
#

It's a variant of the 5800x.

#

Basically. Uh.

#

Processors have Virtual 3d cache.

#

This special variant has extra cache, technically a little less powerful than a 5800x but handles a lot more.

#

It runs games much, much better than the 5800x.

#

It cannot be OC'd due to the quality of its cache to prevent damage. It's hard coded.

#

My mate who has one. Runs 2042 on 120+ frames with it.

#

It's something that I am saving up for right now.

gentle veldt
#

What's better this or a 5900X

#

My ultimate specs is going for a 5900X if I catch one on good deal

toxic wigeon
#

5900x is a bit better on the productivity scale. x3d is better for gaming.

gentle veldt
#

How much better

toxic wigeon
#

Not a bit better. It's just better on the productivity end.

gentle veldt
#

For gaming

#

Like percentage difference

toxic wigeon
#

That I admit I don't have a proper answer for.

#

When are you ordering these parts?

#

The guy that has one here went from a 5900x to a 5800x3d due to its intricates.

#

@pale quartz Hope you don't mind the ping but Percentage wise. How much better is the 5800x3d over the 5900x in gaming?

gentle veldt
#

No rush for me really i honestly can probably ride this choice until next year

#

I do eventually want to play cod mw2 the new one and BF 2042 though and cyber punk etc and try some photo realistic mods for gta and other games so I have that really just pushing me but my current pc can play most games fine I just have to live with lesser settings so yeah no rush really

#

I just know prices are falling down so it seemed like a perfect time to buy but it might still drop more when it plateaus the price drops that is then I'll probably buy

toxic wigeon
#

Oh yeah definitely.

#

No rush.

gentle veldt
#

4000 series nvidia RTX look like the prices will be even worse than when crypto was killing the gpu market so I don't think I will find my next build there

toxic wigeon
#

(Also Look! Fellow Aussie heh)

#

Yeah the 4000 series is a joke.

lofty light
#

Eww Aussies

gentle veldt
#

Oh nice yeah I'm nsw

toxic wigeon
#

Quiet WA.

gentle veldt
#

Lol

#

Spudshed land

lofty light
#

Spudshed is legit the best thing

toxic wigeon
#

I love the developments for the 4000 series with DLSS 3.0 and Better RT cores but it's just so stupidly priced like fuck.

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I hope AMD undercuts them HARD.

gentle veldt
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That's what I'm hoping

toxic wigeon
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Yeah.

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I won't be getting a 40 series but damn.

gentle veldt
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Those cheap ice cream deals from spudshed make me jelly

toxic wigeon
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I like Nvidia's drivers though.

gentle veldt
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Oh yeah same

toxic wigeon
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Simple Software.

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Just shit business behind it.

gentle veldt
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I don't like AMD drivers

toxic wigeon
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My friend had to soft/safe redownloaded his AMD driver when he got a new monitor.

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That shit is scary.

gentle veldt
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Yeah we troubleshooted a friends new build the other day.. The problem was AMD drivers

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Honestly the next thing I have to research is if there are 4k monitors in the 37+ inch range that can do 80 to 120 fps.. Honestly a 100fps monitor would be perfect for me since above 85 fps I think I can't tell the difference

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I tested this when I was young when my health and eyes were still optimal now I can feel when the game is laggy below 40 fps but over 70-80 fps I can't tell the difference

lofty light
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Imo ultrawide is worth it over full 4K

gentle veldt
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I agree but my desk can't fit it

lofty light
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Not even with an arm?

gentle veldt
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Nope

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Very tight area

lofty light
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Things on either side too much? Ah damn

gentle veldt
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Book shelf on right

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Angled wall on left and pedestal fan

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I could use another part of the house but that room feels like it has asbestos or something

lofty light
gentle veldt
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Air quality not good but man it's a whole hall

lofty light
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My house has asbestos walls too

gentle veldt
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Yeah I live in a run down house

lofty light
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Same

gentle veldt
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Tempted to use the empty massive garage sized hall

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But I feel like every year I spend there would take off a year haha lol

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I want to do something with it though it's so big

quick locust
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I don't really have enough space on my desk for ultrawide either

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Well, not a lot of them

lofty light
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Just need the one

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I've got one and two 1080p Screens in Portrait

quick locust
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my house is too old to have asbestos lol

molten flame
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The Ethereum switch to 'proof-of-stake' is estimated to reduce global power use by 2% according to the creator of Ethereum.

quick locust
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ah

gentle veldt
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I have thought of building a driving sim set up down there

quick locust
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wasn't it 0,2%

molten flame
gentle veldt
quick locust
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a bit over 100

gentle veldt
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The floor in my kitchen is sinking though

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We don't walk in that spot any more

quick locust
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Carpenter time

quick locust
toxic wigeon
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Yeah it would.

quick locust
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in compute/productivity its a bit worse than normal 5800X depending on the task

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Since it's clocked lower

molten flame
quick locust
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Yup

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my cpu gets stepped on

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though idk if thats with stock clocks, stock it runs pretty low at 4.3

quick locust
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huh didnt know btop had a windows version

toxic wigeon
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Thanks. I tried to find that.

quick locust
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I was there too but forgot

prime jasper
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Does the ryzen 7000 launch on September 27

quick locust
prime jasper
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I know but it doesn't seem to be confirmed date

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Wouldn't amd post something about it already if they release it next Tuesday

pale quartz
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no embargoes aren't lifted yet

quick locust
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Only thing they've said themselves are september

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lol

prime jasper
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it is confirmed indeed

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all of them have integrated graphics? totally missed that

quick locust
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apparently

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very basic but good to have it

prime jasper
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true, cant never know when your gpu decides to crap out

quick locust
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that or just a pc that doesnt need a dedicated gpu

pale quartz
prime jasper
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almost always are but better than nothing

toxic wigeon
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IGPU's don't take up any extra space do they?

molten flame
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the iGPU of Ryzen 7000 CPUs is included in the I/O chiplet, only has 2 Compute Units so it doesn't use much space, whereas the Ryzen 6000 APUs have 12 and 6 Compute Units on monolithic die

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Ryzen 6000 APUs may land shortly after 7000 CPUs

quick locust
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Might try this myself

toxic wigeon
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I didn't realise FSR was open source.

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Was weirded out that my 3080 could use it. Always thought it was for amd only.

prime jasper
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lot of amd stuff is open source

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unlike nvidia

terse glade
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We shouldn't buy Nvidia anymore to mark a sign

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As a protest

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😄

molten flame
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Think this feature requires RTX 4000 series GPU

terse glade
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Meanwhile I turn RTX always off because I don't see a difference

quick locust
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AMD and Intel both do a lot of open source

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XeSS DP4a is cross platform too

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And open source

dapper saffron
quick locust
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RT is pretty nice, just requires a ton of performance

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BFV barely had anything while newer games use it more

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Would be amazing in horror games too imo as they do lighting the best

dapper saffron
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cyberpunk 2077

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looks insane at night time

terse glade
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I really need to try cyberpunk...

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Until now I don't have really a game in my library which took full advantage of ray tracing

quick locust
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Metro Exodus EE

pale quartz
pale quartz
prime jasper
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im gonna wait for b650 motherboards if i get ryzen 7700X

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should come in october

quick locust