technology

[coarse nimbus]

It's console bashing hours again bois

[prime jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-console-xbox-ps-gif-7831590

[blazing bloom]

if it can run minecraft it's worth it

[umbral crater]

Nokia can run Minecraft

[dry pike]

Java did run on very old Nokia phones so probably 😄

[woeful cargo]

Putting BF1 on my PC and for some reason the picture looks great in windowed, borderless mode but when I run it in full screen it seems like there a haze over the picture and even a tad grainy. Any idea what gives?

What’s weirder is when I take a screen shot the saved image looks waaaay different than the actual picture ingame.

[fallen harbor]

anybody knows why I get ghosting only on the grass but not on the dirt? https://streamable.com/a71tbl

[storm osprey]

if i had to guess DLSS or ambient occlusion is the problem

[midnight crypt]

or TAA

[misty wadi]

👆

[stuck tangle]

Guys I have a question

One of my friend got Intel uhd 620 and he says that his vram matches the ram he has but he gets like 40 fps on mw3 which requires low requirements I dunno if its true that the vram matches his ram which is like 4 gb since he has a 8 gb ram laptop plus he barely can play recent games

Is it true or not

nvm

i googled it

[umbral crater]

What was the point of even typing it

[weak girder]

integrated graphics use your ram...

as vram

also yeah... intel uhd graphics have shit performance in all games

[stuck tangle]

lmao

[past jacinth]

Hi all
is it possible to advertise here?
with my brother we released a software on raspberry useful to ps5 / ps4 players the beta phase being at the end of the development and we made a discord open to the public so if interested wave good end of the day to all

[umbral crater]

Read rule 3

[quick locust]

Intel graphics use up to 50% of your system RAM.

[prime jasper]

I have a question about the game, is it possible to play bf2042 with an intel xeon E5-1607 ?

My friend wants to know before buying the game

Also, he has an RTX 3060 Ti

[pale quartz]

it's an incredibly slow processor so you can play the game, just not well at all

[prime jasper]

I see, thank you for taking from your time to answer to my question

[prime jasper]

but when you say not well at all, do you mean unplayable or I just won't have 60 fps all the time ?

[pale quartz]

I have no idea, the processor is a decade old, it could be either or

[prime jasper]

Alright, cheers mate

[quick locust]

Not a G402 at all

[prime jasper]

You live in India?

I thought you live in Estonia

[quick locust]

Neither

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ddr5-memory-makes-intel-raptor-lake-cpus-at-least-11-faster-in-geekbench

Anyone with a Intel 600 series motherboard with DDR4 memory shouldn't look into 13th gen CPUs

DDR4 bottlenecks 13th gen

[prime jasper]

i have performance problems in bf2042, can somebody help me? i have a 3060ti, ryzen 7 3700x, 32gb 3600 ram

i have alsways direct x errors

DirectX function "GetDeviceRemovedReason" failed with
DXGI ERROR DEVICE REMOVED (The video card has been
physically removed from the system, or a driver upgrade for
the video card has occurred. "). GPU: "NVIDIA GeForce RTX
3060 Ti"
*. Driver: 51659. This error is usually caused by the
graphics driver crashing; try installing the latest
drivers.DeviceRemovedReason:
DXGI ERROR DEVICE REMOVED ("The video card has been
physically removed from the system, or a driver upgrade for
the video card has occurred. "),

[thick flame]

what have you tried to fix it? easier to ask this then to suggest something youve already probably done

[prime jasper]

i reset windows and reinstall my nvdia drivers

and update bios

[thick flame]

and you still getting it?

[prime jasper]

yes

[thick flame]

i suggest you try reseating the gpu

[prime jasper]

how?

you mean the gpu drivers?

[thick flame]

no to make sure the gpu is properly connected to the mobo, like maybe take it out completely and put it back in or just unclip the pcie lock thing and apply pressure untill it locks itself back in

[prime jasper]

ok i will try it

but the gpu is completely in the slot

but i try it again

[remote dirge]

battlefield 1 im having issues with having my horizontal inverted and idk why thats happening.

[prime jasper]

Original deco 4k screenshot

[remote dirge]

theres nothing in pins

[prime jasper]

Wait for someone to answer your question

Dont worry

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-intros-radeon-rx-6500-xt-with-8gb-memory

New 6500XT models get 8GB

[quick locust]

lol

[molten flame]

[sweet cloak]

has this game start to run really bad for any one I was on medium 60fps on my 1060 6Gb have not play for a week or so and suddenly low dose not even work any ideas

[daring cedar]

wont even launch and i just bought it

(2042)

[remote dirge]

so no ones heard about the horizontal invert, dont understand how im having this issue and theres literally no horizontal invert in the setting......

[tawny nacelle]

Skill issue.

[molten flame]

[prisma anvil]

I feel like gaming won't be too affected

A well tuned Bdie D4 rn can match a well tuned D5 Hynix in game mostly at 12th gen, and you don't even need exotic cooling

[pale quartz]

oh it absolutely will

DDR5 is leagues beyond 4 in every regard, mediocre kits already beat "high bin" ddr4 kits

[molten flame]

DDR5-6400 blows away any overclocked DDR4 kit

DDR5 at 8000+ MT/s gonna be insane

DDR5 has much more overclock potential than DDR4 as well

[dry pike]

Good DDR-6400 is still hard to find

[molten flame]

Hynix DDR5 4800 kits can overclock to 6400-6800 MT/s

Micron DDR5 doesn't have much OC headroom

Yet anyway

[dry pike]

I never trust statements like that. Just because some people manage to do it , it doesn't make me able to do it and it works out stably for years like I want

Still have not seem any 6400 kits in 64GB size for sale here

[molten flame]

DDR5 still very early

Only been like 8-9 months since it's been out

You could only find DDR4 at 2400 MHz with bad timings a year after introduction

By end of year there will be 8000 MHz kits of DDR5

[weak girder]

here I am with 2x8 DDR4 2666 MHz...

[dry pike]

When I feel like upgrading I just want a simple fast and reliable 2 x 32GB 6600+ kit without RGB and with good timings.

[prisma anvil]

https://youtu.be/Ou55IExG3Z8

[toxic wigeon]

Haha cl16 3600 go brr.

[prisma anvil]

Currently a well tuned Samsung bdie 4133 cl15 is about the same as a well tuned Hynix M die overclocked to 7000 cl32 in gaming.

He even put that ddr5 on water to reach 7000

[toxic wigeon]

I do wonder if 10K MHZ will be possible at all for DDR5. Most likely not.

[prisma anvil]

It is.

[toxic wigeon]

It actually is?

[prisma anvil]

Hynix M die record is over 10 but the timings is completely f ed

Yeah on Asus maximus apex

[toxic wigeon]

If it died now. Imagine how much DDR5 will develop in a year or two.

I did find a good 4800 kit the other day.

[prisma anvil]

Samsung b die is still the go to right now for gaming. Until better nobo and cpu memory controller comes out. Tuning ddr5 is hard rn. Buildzoid even says u might be stable then becomes unstable after a reboot due to retrain.

Also it doesn't have a voltage regulator blocking the airflow of the fan required for higher overclocks.

[prisma anvil]

It will but not currently. They must do better than hynix m die, better mobo and cpu mem controllers

[pale quartz]

it isn't to do with overclocking, its to do with block transfers

[prisma anvil]

Yes I saw buildzoid's entire video I know. But gaming performance wise as of right now, not too much difference.

[pale quartz]

DDR5 is infinitely, infinitely better than DDR4 for game specific scenarios, it isn't a contest, DDR4 block transfers are synchronised and bottlenecked, the asynchronous nature of I/O on 5 is a must for games

[prisma anvil]

Then how is a 4133 cl15 bdie basically as fast as a 7000 cl32 mdie? U are right but ddr5 has not matured enough to clearly lead bdie yet gaming wise

Micron ddr5 die are a joke as well

[pale quartz]

because those are atrocious measurements

cl15 4133 is the absolute top of the stack for binning

[prisma anvil]

So is 7000 cl32 mdie

[pale quartz]

7000 cl32 is a mediocre binning in terms of how DDR5 goes, it's the entire point

the async nature is what allows DDR5 to overclock way better than 4, the nature of the memory isn't even close by any calibre other than price

[prisma anvil]

I can do 4000 cl15 on 4x8 on an subpar Asus board. 4133 cl15 is not top of the binning

[pale quartz]

yeah perhaps if you put it to 1.5V

[prisma anvil]

Yep.

[pale quartz]

yeah so good luck having that survive on mediocre bins lol

[prisma anvil]

Just like how he put 1.5v on ddr5 hynix mdie

[pale quartz]

DDR4 and 5 have never been comparable, one is just infinitely better but it's existence

[pale quartz]

except that 1.5v on DDR5 is entirely normal

you don't need some titanium binned die to have it survive on DDR5

[prisma anvil]

1.5V on Samsung Bdie is entirely normal as well.

[pale quartz]

no, it's not

Samsung b die the majority are shit lol

[prisma anvil]

Yes it is.

[pale quartz]

they can barely do 1.35v nevermind 1.5v

[prisma anvil]

That's Samsung c die LOL

[pale quartz]

it isn't "entirely normal"

no it's b die

[prisma anvil]

C die

[pale quartz]

b.. die.. not c die

they are different bins

[prisma anvil]

Bdie can go way past 1.5v

Check buildzoids videos

[pale quartz]

you're clearly in a parallel universe

[prisma anvil]

You are clearly in the wrong here.

[pale quartz]

dual rank b die for regular XMP on Samsung barely survives 1.4v lol

[prisma anvil]

I literally tune bdies every week.

[pale quartz]

that says a lot

[prisma anvil]

LOL you are literally describing c die

[pale quartz]

no, it's literally, b die

do you not understand that the letter isnt the quality?

it's to do with the manufacturing of the die

[prisma anvil]

I do. I thought you would understand.

C die won't go past 1.35v to 1.4v

[pale quartz]

c and b die are produced via different methods it is a fact most b die is garbage, because they are designed to be

[prisma anvil]

They are God awful.

Garbage in terms on harder to run but can take alot of voltage and have very tight timings.

You are describing c die

[pale quartz]

no what you fail to understand is that memory binning falls into percentage based categories

the majority of b die is garbage because it has to be to sell to regular consumers

[prisma anvil]

What you fail to understand is the basic knowledge of Samsung bdie and how binning works

[pale quartz]

please see above

[prisma anvil]

Please see above

Literally any 1.35v bdie at 3200 cl14 can overclock to hell.

[pale quartz]

come on man lol this is basic knowledge why do you think memory manufacturers never have golden binned dies

and they are in a constant short supply

[prisma anvil]

Tested my buildzoid overclock discord and myself.

Once again not true. Bdie is not in short supply and is mass produced right now.

[pale quartz]

golden b die isn't in short supply?

except it literally is by its price premium?

which is, the judge for the supply of memory?

get your head out of 4000mhz land this is dealing with actual consumers

[prisma anvil]

I can get bdie for 100 bucks right now vipers

I literally recommend actual customers to get those.

[pale quartz]

and whats the xmp rating on those vipers

[prisma anvil]

And I personally overclock them to 4266 cl16

4000 cl19

Flat

On Amazon right now

[pale quartz]

which isn't what the majority of b die retails at

the flat majority are cl163200 based kits, they have been since b die began being manufactured

[prisma anvil]

Oloy have those for cheaper.

Hp have 3200 cl14 flat rgb bdies for 200 2*16

I tune bdie weekly lol please stop

[pale quartz]

yeah because DDR4 is at the end of its lifecycle

it's been out for nearly half a decade

[prisma anvil]

So?

What's ur point.

[pale quartz]

what I'm trying to tell you is the ratings you are seeing today is not reflective of what b die has sold at, for it's bin, because they were garbage for 66% of its lifecycle

[prisma anvil]

I love me some ddr5 but until they do better than hynix m die its not worth it over bdie gaming wise.

[pale quartz]

the majority of consumers have already purchased their kits, and the ones they purchased are low bin kits, which is what Samsung intends for binning

the ones you are referring to are as scarce as gold dust compared to what regular folks actually have

[prisma anvil]

It's mostly vendors who bins.

[pale quartz]

it's both

vendors set their own timings according to ICs

the point remains the same

[prisma anvil]

I literally have mutiple corsair 3600 cl16 go past 4000 cl15 on 4*8 configuration

I found literally no bie not do that yet

And I went thru like 20 kits.

[pale quartz]

right and I said before cl163600 is not a majority of what people have purchased

they are 3200 kits not 3600

[prisma anvil]

3200 cl14 kits are better binned than 3600 cl16

[pale quartz]

cl14..? it's 16

[prisma anvil]

3200 cl16 are rarely bdie

[pale quartz]

no actually the majority of them are b die

[prisma anvil]

They are not.

[pale quartz]

because most b die kits are garbage, as I alluded to before

it's what "binning" is

[prisma anvil]

They are all corsair 4.32 Samsung cdie

[pale quartz]

Corsair? Corsair vengeance? they exclusively used b die for years lol

[prisma anvil]

Corsair 4.31 are Samsung bdie and I have never seen one in real life at that bin

Do you even know how to read die versions? Lol

[pale quartz]

I literally owned multiple of corsairs kits at that specification

they were all b die

[prisma anvil]

I literally read 10s of kits per day

[pale quartz]

sweet glad we established that binning has the majority of dies be bad/mediocre for regular folks to purchase

[prisma anvil]

Yep. That's facts

Every single 5200 cl40 ddr5 are micron garbo

Corsair literally know their stuff now.

[pale quartz]

revision e is just entering trialling for 5, it'll take time for it to hit peak maturity

[prisma anvil]

5600 cl36 are all Samsung and 6000 cl36 are either samsung or hynix, mostly hynix.

[pale quartz]

for DDR4 standard specifications anyways

[prisma anvil]

I know, and I can't wait I want the samsung bdie of ddr5 to come out already

I am cpu bottlenecked as a 1080p 280hz gamer in destiny 2 and battlefield.

[pale quartz]

bottlenecked? x3d?

[prisma anvil]

Yes my gpu usage doesn't go over 80ish percent

Sometimes well below that

[pale quartz]

I had similar experiences with 85%, but that's 1440p

[prisma anvil]

My 10th gen kinda showing its age

[pale quartz]

10900k I'd imagine

[prisma anvil]

10850k

Dogwater binned 10900k 🥲

[pale quartz]

close enough just be wary you're going to be wanting v cache Zen 4 over RPL

[prisma anvil]

I'm open to amd

I think 5800X 3D is insane for gaming.

[pale quartz]

it is, I replaced my 5900x for it

[prisma anvil]

Oh dang nice.

[pale quartz]

pretty significant uplifts there's so much L3 that transfers from memory are eliminated entirely in some scenes

kinda extraordinary

[prisma anvil]

Yeah

[pale quartz]

no more CCX based transfer latency nonsense so was a no brainer for me

[prisma anvil]

https://youtu.be/b1oCvYaKdbE

I am just so impressed people with old dirt mobo can slap a 5800X 3D and YEET

Draws no power as well

[pale quartz]

there is BCLK overclocking for it aswell but definitely a good way to cause corruption

[prisma anvil]

Yeah that mofo made it to 4.7ghz

[pale quartz]

Zen 4 will benefit significantly from v cache nearly a 1ghz difference from the x3d

don't be surprised if the x3d even beats some Zen 4 parts in games

[prisma anvil]

Yeah I'm def gonna see who wins

I think it's gonna be close.

[pale quartz]

it shouldn't be close but it will be, RTS based/heavy sequence games (2042) the x3d will have the strongest chances of winning in

[obsidian hull]

You went from a 5900x to a 5800x3d? The 5900x is technically faster despite having less cache memory

[pale quartz]

it isn't, it's slower

the 5900x has a split 32MB cache per CCX

there is a real and tangible impact on base performance for cache transfers between them

[prisma anvil]

I think Intel has their cache up abit as well. But raptorlake architecture is basically the same as alderlake with minor tweaks and clockspeed jacked up

[pale quartz]

just to fix ADL e cores more or less

where all the multi increase is coming from

[prisma anvil]

F alderlake e cores

Although my friend got a God bin 12700k

I am mad jealous

[pale quartz]

yeah one of the downsides of big.little systems, if the small cores are very different in baseline IPC to the big cores, it will slow down the big cores because of data rates

why you see disabled e cores outperforming on ADL

[prisma anvil]

It does 5.2ghz all P core 4.1ghz all E core, 4.3ghz ring at 1.27v load drawing only 200w

Cinebench r23

It can prob do 5.3ghz all P core but I didn't wanna push it

[pale quartz]

"only 200w"

[prisma anvil]

All this for him to play genshin impact and tiny Tina s wonderland

[pale quartz]

shows you ADL power consumption in a nutshell

[prisma anvil]

It's 5.2ghz all P core haha

Intel can take voltage

[pale quartz]

I mean it's a good overclock but like, for a 700 skew, that's a heavy draw

[prisma anvil]

Should ve seen 11th gen haha

🤣

[pale quartz]

not that gamers care about draw based on 3090 purchases anyways I suppose

[prisma anvil]

200w in cinebench r23

[pale quartz]

bulldozer intel quite something

[prisma anvil]

I have a video of 11700k drawing 220w in r23 doing 4.7ghz

4.8 will whea.

🥲

[pale quartz]

220 4.7? did you stick it in the freezer

[prisma anvil]

Cpu cooler used is the Artic esports duo

Insane cpu cooler for the price.

Highly recommend

[pale quartz]

not seen it personally but seen it popping up over the last few months

[prisma anvil]

Yeah it handled 220w sustained no delid high voltage and 11th meme gen

Actually 11700k is the best budget cpu rn in Microcenter

U can get a 11700k + Z590 prime p wifi for 270 USD combined

[pale quartz]

that small thing handled bad curve 11th gen? guess noctua are going out of business

[prisma anvil]

Yeah it's got 2 noctua clone fans doing 2000+ rpm push pull

[pale quartz]

ah well guess that would explain how

would just get the prosiphon if I was unlocking prefer to keep my hearing

[prisma anvil]

It's actually quiet.

Noctua clone literally haha

[pale quartz]

what's it's contact like?

[prisma anvil]

Kinda bad the copper plate is small. Barely fits am4 and 1700

https://youtu.be/bJaJeP7bylE

[pale quartz]

ehh nevermind then v cache is a disaster in the making if so

[prisma anvil]

GN s sample was kinda f ed as well

But they do give u mx4 as thermal paste so that's a plus

[pale quartz]

got some nt-h2 but neat offering for consumers

[quick locust]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-reportedly-readies-800w-rtx-4090-ti-graphics-card

[molten flame]

142 SMs enabled of 144

144 SM dies are probably gonna be for data centers only

That's such a small "cut-down"

48GB will be useless even for creators doing 8K content

800W is just what the power delivery can handle iirc

[dry pike]

800W is stupid. Hope it comes with an air-condition.

[pearl imp]

Should I upgrade to 32 gigs of ram?

[molten flame]

won't have noticable differences in games but it may help for 2042 or other games with insane amounts of mods

I have 16GB and never seen 10GB be used

[pearl imp]

If I did I was just thinking of getting Corsair vengeance

[storm osprey]

if youre just buying another 2x8 set for 55 bucks why not? its pretty cheap and will be a peace of mind

i personally upgraded from 16gb to 32gb for 1440p/4k gaming, and its a TAD smoother but not really game changing

its questionable if its worth the 55 bucks, but at the same time (depending who you are)... its 55 bucks, who cares

tldr, not needed but is kind of nice

[molten flame]

DDR4 and SATA SSDs are so cheap now

ordered a kingston 240GB SSD for laptop, was only $24

480GB was $35 iirc

[storm osprey]

yea i love it xD

thats why upgraded, why the fuck not?

[quick locust]

https://www.techradar.com/news/200tb-ssds-could-come-soon-thanks-to-microns-new-chip

[molten flame]

will cost as much as house

[quick locust]

Not in this market

[molten flame]

128TB PCIe 5.0 NVMe on the other hand

heard gen5 will cost like $300 per TB

[molten flame]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-7-1

Radeon 22.7.1 driver introduces Noise Suppression, alternative to RTX Voice

[lofty light]

I'm getting close to impulse buying a scalped steam deck, anyone had experience with one yet here?

[molten flame]

scalped

[lofty light]

I live in Aus, can't buy one legit

[dry pike]

Nice. Competition is good.

[stuck tangle]

200 tb

200 TB

ARE YOU JOKING?

damn this do be the next gen

[dry pike]

There are already 100TB SSDs. And if you are a datacenter with a certain type of usecase you might even want to spend the 40.000+ USD on it.

[quick locust]

Yeah

These new chips push prices on those down too

[rancid belfry]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1445816-indonesia-urged-tech-companies-to-register-under-new-licensing-rules-issued-inspection-and-ban-warning-to-those-who-didnt-register/

[tropic field]

Speaking of SSDs, has anyone here used a Silicon Power Ace A55 before?

I transfered one to a new PC and it's trying to boot from PXE

I think it's because the A55 uses MBR firmware while my current boot mode is UEFI

Except I can't find anywhere what the actual firmware the A55 uses

[pale quartz]

it isnt

UEFI and MBR are not firmware

you are thinking of GPT

if it is MBR then you'll have to format it into GPT, UEFI is not compatible with MBR based partition schemes

[tropic field]

Yeah that's what I meant

I don't know the exact words for what they are

The SSD has the OS on it though, so if I convert it to GPT while running, wont something break?

[pale quartz]

you can't convert it

you have to format it entirely

and yes that includes all the stored data on the drive

[tropic field]

So I can just back everything up on a USB

[pale quartz]

no you will have too much data only the OS will be able to be backed up probably

and even that is not guaranteed

[tropic field]

Damn

[pale quartz]

MBR and GPT are incompatible with cross transferring data with each other

they are fundamentally different in storage mechanisms

[tropic field]

So I guess I can't save that ssd then

[pale quartz]

correct

[molten flame]

I have a laptop that's my grandma's (she passed on Easter) and it has a windows user password so I can't do anything with the drive. Can I remove the drive and put in a new SSD to get around it?

I know I have to reinstall OS and everything

I just don't want the laptop to become E-waste so I wanna make it usable again

[pale quartz]

the current drive will be unusable, but yes you will need to remove the current drive, put in a new one and flash windows to it

afterwards you can get an external adapter and mount the one with the password and wipe it

[molten flame]

ye like USB to SATA

[pale quartz]

there's a chance it's possible to get around the password entirely through meddling with the partitions, but best to just wipe it

[weak girder]

eXcUsE mE

who tf needs 100tb storage

[quick locust]

servers

[weak girder]

ah

[quick locust]

theyre too expensive for consumers

theyre like 7000-8000 usd each

this might bring that down a bit but still

[dry pike]

they were around 40.000 USD at release I believe

If the article I read at one point is correct

[quick locust]

ah yea

read wrong drive

40K yeah, thought might be a bit lower when this is used

still not something normal users would spend lol

[dry pike]

I would imagine the buyers have a serverload with lots of smaller files requiring very low search times.

[quick locust]

Yeah

Well, that's always what you use them for

Longer term is HDD and very long term is tape

[dry pike]

I imagine there are applications where the lower power consumption and way smaller footprint does come in handy

Like if you have an offsite backup that is required to be able to run for long times using generators or something

[quick locust]

normal datacenters have that

Just in case

[dry pike]

can run longer, or using a smaller generator if your server requires way less power though

[dry pike]

yeah yeah, those are normal server centers

[quick locust]

yeah

[dry pike]

obviously I'm talking special needs here

[quick locust]

Low power offsite would be a bit niche

yea

[dry pike]

Ultra small, ultra low power. Probably a marked for someone out there.

Fly it to space 😄

[pale quartz]

in terms of data integrity running SSDs forever is a terminal way to kill a drive

server or not, NAND will die exponentially faster than a platter the longer you keep it active

[honest sandal]

You're a terminal way to kill a drive @pale quartz

[pale quartz]

you'd know you're about as old as some hard drives

[honest sandal]

Older

[pale quartz]

the difference is hard drives are useful into old age then there's you verging on retirement

[molten flame]

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-confirms-ryzen-9-7950x-7900x-ryzen-7-7700x-and-ryzen-5-7600x-processors

There's a Ryzen 7 7700X but no 7800X

[copper karma]

Should I get another 2x 8gb ram? Ddr4.

[storm osprey]

It’s like 55 bucks. Why not. It makes some games a bit smoother but it’s not needed.

[dry pike]

Memory is nice. Helps with the 1000 browser tabs 😄

[lofty light]

It's gonna cost me ~$1700 AUD to get a steam deck

[toxic wigeon]

Mhhhh.

[midnight crypt]

totally worth it

[toxic wigeon]

He can get a 3080 for 1300 AUD.

[dry pike]

I don't know when I would actually game handheld. They are cool but cost vs time spent on the device would probably be horrible for me.

[molten flame]

"As measured with AIDA64 FPU test, the i7-13700K easily reaches a power consumption of 244W, significantly more than the i7-12700K at 188W. The same applies to i5-13600K, which reportedly has increased power draw of 178W, which is 30W more than i5-12600K in the same test."

People think this a big deal while neglecting the fact that there's more cores

[dry pike]

It is a big deal. Most offices are just not built to handle the heat envelope of future high-end systems.
Let me just render this video on my 4090+13700k and see the spaceheater be jealous of the PC throwing up 1000 watts of heat

And poor small formfactor pcs

[quick locust]

Non K are limited to 65W long term

[molten flame]

65W SKUs boost to over 150 watts tho lmao especially the 12700 and 12900

You gotta manually power limit them in BIOS to 65W iirc

Although I imagine with a stock cooler, they don't draw too much power because thermal limitations

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-announces-siggraph-2022-special-address-with-ceo-jensen-huang-on-august-9th#disqus_thread

Jensen is back, gonna announce RTX 4000 in 12 days

[prime jasper]

I wonder if Amazon can buy nvidia?

Can Amazon afford it?

[storm osprey]

i feel like theres maybe 5 things amazon cant afford... and thats like apple and google levels of stuff

[quick locust]

Thats PL1

Long term is 65W

[candid flame]

anyone using Integral ram?

[midnight crypt]

ram is pretty integral for a pc to work

[dry pike]

Perhaps Cats is talking about using the Rectangular Approximation Method (RAM) to compute an approximate value of a definite integral but I doubt it.

[candid flame]

I meant the brand "Integral"

[dry pike]

Oh, i think it is safe to say the answer is no so far then

[molten flame]

https://wccftech.com/intel-confirms-cpu-component-price-hike-taking-effect-in-q4-2022/

Intel will increase prices of all products by end of year because they had a bad earnings report

[quick locust]

[quaint bay]

guyss

My battlefield 3 mouse moves like as if its sliding

the camera does not moves with the mouse

it moves wiith it slowly and when I stop moving the mouse, it slides away

And fuck, I cant show u the recording

[quick locust]

Read channel desc @quaint bay

Also

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[storm osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIN8lLhSqmg

damn i really thought ddr5 would show better

good ol hardware unboxed with their nice graphs

[pale quartz]

ADL's IMC isn't built to take advantage of DDR5 that well, it simply supports it

one of the big compromises you get with dual support, raptor lake will perform much better

these sorts of clocks with 4/5 are extremely tight anyways, ADL is cache bound in this scenario so there isn't going to be that much of a difference

[dry pike]

Gotta wait for next gen CPUs and like 9000-12000mhz ddr5 memory. The current is a joke.

[molten flame]

DDR5 8000 MT/s with CL32 gonna be nuts

problem with DDR4, any speed increase over 3800 MT/s becomes very slim gains

DDR5 should scale well better with clocks especially newer kits in the coming months

DDR5 in 2-3 years will be insane no doubt

I think DDR5 is maturing faster than DDR4 did too

[pale quartz]

it is, in terms of both price and performance

[storm osprey]

so how long till we see actual gains? what kind of gains?

[quick locust]

meteor lake probably

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale quartz]

RPL/MTL

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-6-core-raphael-cpu-is-up-to-22-faster-than-core-i9-12900k-in-leaked-single-core-test

Zen 4 is really fast, 7600X scored 22% higher than 12900K in Userbenchmark single-core, a benchmark that's usually in Intel's favor

13th gen might lose against Zen 4 in single-thread this upcoming generation

[pale quartz]

not the case

UB only "favours" intel because the fanboy behind it changed the algorithm to favour high clocks on fewer cores, now this impacts Zen 4 significantly as one of the biggest differences compared to Zen 3 is much higher sustained boosts per core, over more cores

which is how you get wild ridiculous boosts like this, in reality drop it by around 8% for everything else

[molten flame]

Current engineering samples of Zen 4 are pretty much at retail clockspeeds now, ur right

ES of Zen 4 are hitting all-core boosts of like 5.1-5.2 GHz and sustaining it

Not all of them but some

[pale quartz]

that's only with conservative PBO too

5.3 is not only achievable but realistic

the intel shill behind userbenchmark will coincidentally change it again after Zen 4 launches most likely

[molten flame]

In that link it shows 7600X ES with 56% higher single-core than 5600X lmao

Userbenchmark ofc

It's using the slowest DDR5 too

[pale quartz]

this is what the moron behind the site tried to say to justify the 5800x3d destroying everything

[molten flame]

Yup I read this lmfao

[pale quartz]

you literally couldn't see any other imbecile "review"

their Twitter is horrendous aswell

[molten flame]

Childish

[cosmic warren]

on my first boot for BFV for the day for the past few days it'll crash after I select like a server to join

[toxic wigeon]

Are these gains only in due of new chipset and or the gen type?

You're going to get a gain no matter what. But for there to be such a massive apparent gain. Why?

Or better question yet. Will the gains that we get from this gen be just as big going onto the 9000 series?

Also holy shit that dude is malding.

[prisma anvil]

I think with cpu cache increase more and more each gen, idk if ram speed and tight timings matters too much anymore in years

gaming wise

5800X 3D is a great example and the start of intel and amd trying their best to bypass ram speed in the future

[pale quartz]

read what I explained above

these are not "gains"

[toxic wigeon]

By gain I'm referring to a performance gain. That's all I mean.

[pale quartz]

yeah these aren't performance gains

they are just shitty userbenchmark scoring that's all

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsij4LgXmZw

[short pawn]

Holy fuck the game dx erroring killed my main windows account

[quaint bay]

pls help me tho

[lofty light]

[stone monolith]

my friends game wont work. he has a gtx 1080ti, apparently its a driver issue. does anyone know a fix ?

[midnight crypt]

no

[dry pike]

Fixing the driver issue would seem to be what is needed. A proper DDU uninstall in safe-mode is usually what I do to do that.

[molten flame]

DDR5-5600 with lowest timings yet of CL28 now available

[quick locust]

Ah cool

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-14th-gen-meteor-lake-has-versatile-processing-unit-for-ai-deep-learning-applications

[toxic wigeon]

Gen 13 has already been made hasn't it? They're just making the chips.

[quick locust]

Its a several year long process

So they probably already have 14th gen testing

Let alone 13th

[toxic wigeon]

To technically they're already getting gen 15 set up too.

[quick locust]

Yeah

[toxic wigeon]

How far do they look forward?

Jesus christ.

[quick locust]

They have to, R&D takes a long time plus planning

[toxic wigeon]

Fair bit still.

[pale quartz]

a chip takes 5 years from conception to production

[quick locust]

Some intel employees I've talked to feels like a launch is a reminder what they worked on long time ago lol

[pale quartz]

timeline wise

[quick locust]

Yeah

They also have battlemage and celestial

[toxic wigeon]

Does gen 15 even have a name yet?

Oh.

[pale quartz]

ARL

[toxic wigeon]

ARL Lake.

[pale quartz]

arrow lake

[quick locust]

😛

Their gpu arch naming is cooler

Alchemist, battlemage, celestial, druid

[pale quartz]

on thin ice now*

[quick locust]

Rumours anyway

Nothing official from them

[pale quartz]

it's actually been brewing for longer than you'd think

way before these financial results that is

[quick locust]

Yeah I know

[pale quartz]

gotta keep spending billions for dividends and buying other McAfee's somehow

[molten flame]

Remember when AMD named GPU generation codenames after F1 tracks

[ivory creek]

just updated my bios and it switched secure boot and tpm 2.0 and all its fuctionality on by default. does it hurt to leave it on or should i turn them off again?

[midnight crypt]

turn them off if you dont want win11

[ivory creek]

does it interfere with programs or why should i turn it off?

[dry pike]

I have all of that on 24/7. Doesn't interfere with, well, anything

[ivory creek]

thanks, ill leave it on then aswell

my old bios was from early 2020, this one from a month ago

felt like it was time to update

it claim to have extra functions to increase performance of 5800x3d

lol

[dry pike]

oh yeah, should not have a bios that is older than your cpu

[ivory creek]

my cpu is an old 3900x

but yeah i might switch to 5800x3d later on if i need it

[dry pike]

We got the same CPU then 🙂

[ivory creek]

awesome

[dry pike]

Unify MB?

[ivory creek]

haha yeah

how did you know?

msi x570 unify

[molten flame]

I wish 6900X3D existed so I could pair with 6900XT

[ivory creek]

might come later

who knows

if amd need to surpass intel

[dry pike]

Just recognize someone with good taste that is all

Just happen to have the same MB as well

[ivory creek]

neat

well i have stuff to do. take care

[pale quartz]

it's an AGESA update that's all, there's no baseline performance change

[ivory creek]

i read about it fast and it is supposed to add msi kombo strike or something which is supposed to be able to increase performance of the 5800x3d. didnt read any details tho

[pale quartz]

misleading marketing just ignore it, it's impossible to increase the baseline performance on it without memory tuning as it incurs a latency performance penalty

[ivory creek]

alright

[dry pike]

msi kombo strike is tested to give up to 5% increase in multi core loads

if you want and can handle the extra heat load ofc.

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i7-13700k-has-been-overclocked-to-6-ghz-allegedly-scores-983-points-in-cpu-z-st-test

13700K with 6 GHz overclock

[proud trellis]

B-R-U-H

[terse glade]

But what u do with 6ghz

I kinda don't understand it

No CPU needs more than 3,9ghz imo

[molten flame]

[midnight crypt]

your opinion doesnt matter

[pale quartz]

and a reduction in single core loads

what comes with a multi core increase is an increase in cache latency, can't have it both ways

[dry pike]

Single core was about the same in the benchmark I saw.
Don't know about the cache latency in multi core, just that the benchmark score was significantly better

[pale quartz]

the x3d is a monolithic mounted cache, when you adjust parameters things aren't the same as a 5800x or other ryzen 5000 part, increasing the multi core performance increases the penalty delay that the cache has for transferring data, which will drop game performance

it's why it's entirely locked down to begin with, you can only increase performance in two ways, both are speeding up cache access, BCLK overclocking or tighter memory tuning for when it doesn't need to hit the cache, any other sort of modification is a regression

[molten flame]

you think we will see 3-layer 3D stacking within a few years?

[pale quartz]

z6~

[dry pike]

I've only seen Cinebench benchmarks so seems entirely reasonable if the uplift in performance is only in productivity software.

[pale quartz]

yeah fair enough

[molten flame]

*while using a chiller

[thin lintel]

intel i7 6700 3.41 ghz gtx 1060 6gb will this play bf4/5

[storm osprey]

what i7?

[hybrid lynx]

most likely it will

but yea, which CPU specifically, would be helpful

my son has my old i7 3770k and GTX970 and it was able to play BF4. Don't think it was on ultimate or whatever, but it wasn't low settings either.

[lofty light]

Also could be a laptop

[thin lintel]

Edited my dooblydoo

[molten flame]

would kinda struggle with BFV

[toxic wigeon]

Oc your x3d for a 1% increase.

[thin lintel]

I have another 8800 gts here but that’s worse than the 1060 gtx perhaps but buy looking at it it looks like it would perform well dues the massive heat sink

[prime jasper]

Everything is fine but your RAM available is horrific

You’re going to studder* your aiming down sights will lag

[lofty light]

When did he say his ram? 6gb is the GPU vram

[prime jasper]

oh thank god

[quick locust]

Cubic boron arsenide

https://www.techradar.com/news/this-major-breakthrough-could-end-pc-overheating-worries-for-good

👀

[dry pike]

https://tenor.com/view/its-about-time-space-suite-smoking-gif-14813224

[pale quartz]

seems cool but isn't the first time a "miracle compound" has come along, though in reality there's a 90% chance it will fail

the problem is scalability, its exceptionally straightforward to run 4/8 bit tests on these materials but incorporating the massive amount of gates which silicon can sustain for testing thermal limits is something else entirely, closest thing to replace silicon with either be graphene or light for commercial processors

[dry pike]

It is like all the miracle battery technologies people have posted about forever 😄

[quick locust]

Yeah, as always so far

[bright spade]

hello everyone, i have a ryzen 5 5600x , do you think is it worth changing the cpu ( a ryzen 7 5800x) plz?

[proud trellis]

no

[pale quartz]

x3d only, not the base 5800x

[quick locust]

Yeah above

X3D is the only with big jump from 5600x in games

[terse glade]

I don't get it

Is the AMD Ryzen 7 3800 still modern yes or no

And would be a new zen 4 Ryzen 3 better?

CPUs confuse the shit out of me lol

[pale quartz]

wouldn't even be close lol margin would be like 40%

Zen 2 is a dated product

so the answer is no

[terse glade]

We'll see, it would be cool if the upcoming Ryzen 3 would consume less power and less heat than my current 7 3800

With an increased performance

Because at this point I don't see any real improvements in GPUs tbh

So I hope at least CPUs gets some REAL performance boost

[quick locust]

Heat probably same

But faster and more efficient

[terse glade]

And not only upping up the power consumption

[terse glade]

Efficiency is what I'm looking for

If it's not efficient then for me it's not worth

[quick locust]

It usually gets better each time except back when intel copy pasted cpus

Alder lake is more efficient than comet and rocket

[terse glade]

Fps per watt Ratio imo underrated benchmark

Especially now with that energy crisis

[quick locust]

The K skus just throw power consumption to stupid

Yeah its over 7 kr per kWh or was yesterday

[terse glade]

40 € cent here ....

[quick locust]

Ours is 1 eur equivalent

Or it was, now around 80 cent i think

[terse glade]

Damn ...

So ye roughly 5 hours gaming 1€ then

[quick locust]

Nah I use way more than 200W

[terse glade]

I undervolted my GPU so it consume max 125Watt , CPU draws max 70 watt, but dunno about other things like Mainboard and shit

[quick locust]

Rather downclock than undervolt if you want stability

[terse glade]

My ultrawide 3440x1440 is around 30 watt which I'm happy

[quick locust]

My 2560x1440 is around same

37W i think

24 in

Meanwhile my old 26 in is 160W lol

[terse glade]

My GPU is running stable af because I ended up undervolt it with the easiest method ever. Per Nvidia GeForce performance panel (alt+z) just set everything to lowest bar

[terse glade]

Damn lol

[terse glade]

That's what I call a real technology progress 🙂

[quick locust]

Yup

Plus its 1080p 60hz vs 1440 165Hz

And Gsync takes some of that since I have one with module

[terse glade]

Samsung LS34J550WQU that's the monitor I have

35 watt

[quick locust]

Monitors used more power back then while PCs usually used less

[terse glade]

[terse glade]

Nah

I'm pretty sure they sucked even more

[quick locust]

They were less efficient by far yes

But overall consumption was usually less

Besides exceptions like pentium D lol

[terse glade]

I really can't tell, but @pale quartz will probably know

I would say they consumed the same or even more

[quick locust]

Nah

They were much less efficient but still had lower overall

CRTs and plasmas though rip

[terse glade]

Ye

We can't really tell

[pale quartz]

what's the question?

monitor power consumption is, tricky, it's more or less impossible to measure as they are extremely variable for power consumption based on the internal heat disposition going on

but yeah tak is correct CRTs (required) less watts than LCD/plasmas as the image was being rendered entirely via formula instead of having to power an entire backlight for the image to show, history lesson @terse glade

[terse glade]

[pale quartz]

they could also scale much more efficiently than even modern LCDs if you're talking about wanting stellar image quality, drawback was, well, you could end up dead if you used them long enough

modern LCDs use tricks to get a decent output which increases utilisation mostly linearly, without even factoring in refresh rates

[terse glade]

What about LED tho

[quick locust]

Also PCs back then usually used less power even if much less efficient

Except idle consumption

[terse glade]

Didn't sucked old GPUs like 250 watt back then in 2007

[quick locust]

MicroLED is great but its still $$$$

Gtx 480 used 250W in 2010 and was notorious for being a grill

[pale quartz]

good in terms of efficiency, but a dead technology more or less

[quick locust]

https://tenor.com/view/thermi-nvidia-gpu-580-480-gif-19880982

[terse glade]

Why death

[pale quartz]

cost of manufacturing

there's no low cost mass manufacturing hardware that exists for LEDs currently, as each display has different specification for size and resolution the amount of LEDs is highly variable

[quick locust]

MicroLED monitor pricing 👀

[pale quartz]

(meaning), each display has to, literally be done more or less manually

[pale quartz]

^

OLED and QD-OLED are already hitting the market rapidly and supersedes the benefits of LED in just about every way, it was dead the moment it arrived

[quick locust]

Yeah just wish there were more oled monitors

[pale quartz]

quantum dot will be available for OLED by next year

[terse glade]

What about IPS

[pale quartz]

not long to wait now

[quick locust]

IPS has been cheapish for long

[pale quartz]

IPS has been around for a long time

[quick locust]

But thats still lcd

[terse glade]

[pale quartz]

it doesn't scale well for image quality

it'll exist and replace VA for budget monitors, but LCD tech is dying

[quick locust]

Only IPS I have is my phone

[pale quartz]

rightfully so it's way past it's due date

OLED has been in the TV sector for nearly half a decade at this point it's a joke how long it's took to arrive to monitors

[terse glade]

That's really silly why it didn't hit the monitor market yet in large quantities

[pale quartz]

it's pretty simple

for every one monitor LG or Samsung sells they sell 5 minimum of that TV

the market base for monitors is infinitely tiny, which is why it gets relegated to third tier priority

isn't profitable for R&D + first point

[terse glade]

Ye I see

[quick locust]

My phone is still IPS

[pale quartz]

nearly as old as that processor

[quick locust]

Or PLS TFT as samsung calls it

[pale quartz]

actually is it older

[quick locust]

Yeah they're super cheap now

[pale quartz]

has to be right

[quick locust]

2019

So newer than old boi 8700K

[pale quartz]

didn't even realise Samsung made a mediocre IPS phone in 2019

shouldn't be surprised

[quick locust]

Xcover 4S

Really sturdy though

[pale quartz]

the Nokia brick lives!

[quick locust]

Ya its a brick

Removable battery too

Stronk

If you drop it the floor breaks

[pale quartz]

try water instead

soft landing!

[toxic wigeon]

Deja vu...

[storm osprey]

super cheap compared to what? what OLEDs used to cost? they are still at least double the price of most tvs

i dont see OLED taking over the home market anytime soon either

[quick locust]

Compared to before, they're pretty easily affordable now

[storm osprey]

oh yea, theyve dropped a shit load in roughly the last 2 years

i wanna say even the lg a1 48" is almost half its original msrp price after a year

[quick locust]

You can get a phillips one for 5900 dkk

55 in

[storm osprey]

philips has an oled?

[quick locust]

100 Hz

Yea

[storm osprey]

crazy, didnt even know

hell im surprised they even still make tvs

[quick locust]

Idk how good or bad it is though

[storm osprey]

apparently they arent sold in usa

[quick locust]

Weird

[storm osprey]

that would make sense why i didnt know about it lol

the first tv i ever bought with my own money was a philips

[quick locust]

Its quite a bit cheaper than the other ones so idk how good or had it is

Ah

I have an old Prosonic tv

But I rarely use TVs anyway

[storm osprey]

the few reviews i see for some philips oled says its good

[pale quartz]

it's kinda difficult to screw up OLED unlike LCD, not too surprising

[quick locust]

LG C1 is 6500 dkk

So a bit more but thats still affordable

[river siren]

has anyone had bottlenecking issues with bf2042 and if so how did u fix

[quick locust]

LEDs are 3000 to 5500 for around same size

With a few flash sales of tcl ones to 2400

[quick locust]

By reducing whatever the bottleneck is

Upgrading whatever holds it back

[storm osprey]

those tcl sales are clutch, good budget tvs too

[quick locust]

Ya usually

[cyan trail]

Hey question. Will DICE ever entertain the idea to use a VR headset in the game? I wana vomit in a cockpit

[quick locust]

No idea, I don't think they've said anything

[fierce solar]

how do i change my orgin profile picture

[glass niche]

im tryna play battlefield 4 on pc with a controller through the ea app and controller does not work any fixes?

[midnight crypt]

this is still not a tech support channel

[glass niche]

couldnt find anywhere else

idk where else to ask

[midnight crypt]

ea support

[glass niche]

there shit tho

theyll just send me some automated messgae

[midnight crypt]

too bad

[glass niche]

can you not just help

i just wanna play on controller

[midnight crypt]

i cant

[glass niche]

why are all the ea launchers so bad btw

origin and ea app

there so bad

[midnight crypt]

dont know since ive never had an issue

[pale quartz]

controller is not supported on the application

full controller integration is only available on steam

[glass niche]

How can it be worse than origin

[pale quartz]

origin does not support controller either

only certain games do

[glass niche]

why

@pale quartz

[pale quartz]

?

why would I know lol, it just isn't supported

[glass niche]

good old ea

[pale quartz]

considering that controller is a tiny portion of the PC market it isn't a "EA" problem

[glass niche]

is their any way i can get a controller to work on battlefield 4

[pale quartz]

it's a nobody uses it problem lol

no

if you want controller support use steam, simple

[glass niche]

then why do just about all other launches have controller support

[pale quartz]

they dont

[glass niche]

they do

[pale quartz]

no, they don't, stop making up lies, they integrate with steams API

infact the second biggest active launcher outside of steam, battle.net has 0 controller support and hasn't had support for controller, ever, since it's been out

[glass niche]

who plays their games lol

[pale quartz]

the millions of players who play call of duty, overwatch, world of Warcraft?

[glass niche]

shit games

[pale quartz]

pretty big playerbases?

stop acting like a child, just because you don't like them doesn't mean others can't enjoy them

[terse glade]

Just get an Xbox S I guess

[quick locust]

PC already not as big as is

Compared to mobile which also has way higher ROI

[weak girder]

reading tech chat

[storm osprey]

normally how it goes lately

[weak girder]

[storm osprey]

theres a reason the activity in this chat has gone down drastically

[quick locust]

I'm not helping the average intelligence levels

[weak girder]

bro ur einstein intelligence compared to 95% of the people in this chat

[storm osprey]

thats not the only problem either

[quick locust]

Also amount of people wanting tech support

[sand flame]

Have they added leaning in the game?

I’m interested in coming back but this was a total buzzkill for me

[quick locust]

Wrong chat

[sand flame]

Can you please answer the question? XD

[weak girder]

wrong chat

[digital hill]

Man, the rtx 40 series seem to just be inefficient with power from the rumors

if it can go up to 900w then man the power bill is going to be insane for just one machine

[quick locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3JcnBP_jc

https://game.intel.com/story/intel-arc-a750-graphics-performance-preview/

[magic gust]

Im trying to use the xbox app on pc to chat with friends in a party but after couple of seconds of joining the audio cuts out and idk why

[pale quartz]

tech support right after this question

[magic gust]

ah

[lofty light]

Ngl though the Xbox chat app is AWFUL on PC

We spent like 2 hours trying to get a mix of Xbox and PC players on it and it didn't work

[toxic wigeon]

So what does the 3070 have over the 2080 asides from better Ray tracing capabilities?

Just better res scaling?

And yeah manic it is fucking awful.

[pale quartz]

it's equivalent to a 2080ti not a 2080

[lofty light]

Basically yeah

I've got one of each

[toxic wigeon]

That still doesn't answer my question. What does it have over that then?

[lofty light]

It's better ray tracing features and a bit better power usage innit?

Comparing 2080ti to 3070

[pale quartz]

AV1 decoding

that's all

[quick locust]

Imagine not having av1 encoding

Not that it matters much yet but will eventually

[pale quartz]

[warm helm]

i have a bf5 isseu

[quick locust]

Ok

[terse glade]

[terse glade]

Is there a Ryzen 3 coming on zen 4 on a an AM4 socket?

[molten flame]

Not for launch

Probably be sometime in 2023 when there are quad-cores on AM5

[fickle void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tzUz0f12zE

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-announce-ryzen-7000-on-august-29th-launching-september-15th

Ryzen 7000 announcement less than 4 weeks away

[pale quartz]

there isn't

[fallen harbor]

anybody knows if r9 380 has instant replay?

my friend can't find the record & stream options in his panel

https://imgur.com/DZpLhQi

this is what he sees

[short pawn]

Is 550w enough for my rx5600xt and i5-9400f?

I feel like it might not be enough

[proud trellis]

it should be yeah, I have a 450 watt PSU for my 9400f and 1660s and my PSU is white rating lol

[molten flame]

That's enough

[short pawn]

Ahh

I just had a grudge that some games crashing was dont by not enough power

[pale quartz]

GCN 3 doesn't support IR

[toxic flame]

hey guys any idea whats going on with the game

cant seem to start it

says invalid game executable?

[toxic flame]

woopsie

[prime jasper]

!!support

[silent oasis]

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[prime jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFezkrEmhhk still have this gpu on my old PC. its still going strong

glad i went for 5700XT and not 2060 super back then

[quick locust]

Yeah 5700xt was great

[prime jasper]

still is 🙂

[fallen harbor]

oh ok, ty

[terse glade]

[molten flame]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-a380-graphics-now-have-their-own-very-first-water-block

Waterblock for a entry-level card

[devout karma]

I always lag on bf games

Idk why

It makes me so mad

My connection is fine

[modern gull]

@devout karma I think you need to be more specific than that, what are like the symptoms?

Also is this only happening in battlefield games?

[devout karma]

Yes

[devout karma]

Sorry for responding so late

Literally only in bf games

I get the thing that has the 3 boxes

On the side

And then the stopwatch thing

I chose a server in my region and it started lagging still

[modern gull]

@devout karma Are you on pc right?

[devout karma]

No

Xbox

[modern gull]

Oh

You get this?

[devout karma]

Uhh

[modern gull]

and this

[devout karma]

I don't think so

The clock yes

One second

[modern gull]

Network issue then it seems, is there any way of checking ping on console?

[devout karma]

Let me see

My mom's in the living room lol

[modern gull]

Maybe you also get this?

[devout karma]

Yes i think

[modern gull]

In that case it points towards internet issue

[devout karma]

On every other game my internet is fine

And I have decent internet

[modern gull]

[devout karma]

And the router is in the living room

So is the xbox

[modern gull]

You might want to check ping if possible next time you play i'd say

[devout karma]

K

[modern gull]

Also like laptops i am sure they get hot quick, and probably will clock down cpu etc... Which in turn will give you lower fps if you get lag in that way

[devout karma]

I'm on xbox

Unless you're just making an example

[modern gull]

Yeah i got that, but it might be they act the same way if they overheat

[devout karma]

Oh gotcha

My fps is fine

[modern gull]

So as from what you said it's internet related lag then

If that's the case and you are using wifi you could try cable if possible. Could also be some issues with the game server itself

[devout karma]

Yes

Idk about cable but I could see

[modern gull]

Was thinking maybe it could be interference with the wifi, who knows

[devout karma]

I'm getting on it rn so I'll check my ping

[modern gull]

But you also said it only happens in battlefield, so maybe EA having game server issues

Ok

[devout karma]

Thats what I was thinking

But I've played madden and it didn't lag

[modern gull]

In that case tho, you probably would have gotten this symbol if server issues

Also just realised, servers for BF4 isn't hosted by EA. Forgot that for a moment

[devout karma]

Im on bfv bf1 and hardline

And I immediately have the 4 boxes and the clock thing

[modern gull]

BF1/5 would be hosted by EA, unsure about hardline but confident it's the same as BF4

[devout karma]

I'm gonna disconnect the TV from the internet

[modern gull]

Maybe something downloading at full speed etc...

You should see server ping in server browser at least right?

[devout karma]

Yes

I've done the ones with full green and I still lag

[modern gull]

What does the servers you join say?

I see

[devout karma]

@modern gull I'm using the 5ghz on my router now

So maybe it'll work better

[modern gull]

Mhm maybe, hopefully

[storm osprey]

15 dollar wire > all

[devout karma]

It's working

So much better

I can finally run at a normal speed

[modern gull]

[devout karma]

@modern gull I think bf4 and hardline are ea

Cause I can get the games with ea play

It's an Xbox game pass thing

[storm osprey]

5ghz is faster but does have a shorter range and doesnt like walls as much

[devout karma]

That's fine because I'm in the living room

And so is the xbox

[modern gull]

@devout karma Oh wait you was on console, so maybe there isn't any third party servers there. All servers probably hosted by EA then

[devout karma]

No there's unofficial

[modern gull]

There is

[devout karma]

Also I said I was on xbox like 5 times lol

[modern gull]

Yeah i forgot

[devout karma]

Lmao

[modern gull]

But they still hosted on EA servers then i would expect

[devout karma]

I'm not sure

[modern gull]

Probably is or a third party selected by EA themself

@devout karma Glad you got it working tho

[devout karma]

👍

Now I can't use lag as an excuse lol

[modern gull]

[molten flame]

Ryzen 5 7600X $229 (could go higher)
Ryzen 7 7700X $299
Ryzen 9 7900X $599
Ryzen 9 7950X $799

Big price gap between the 7700X and 7900X, which leaves room for a 7800X3D

Doubt there will be a 3D SKU with more than 8-cores because V-cache has a penalty to clockspeeds and thermals, plus cache really only benefits gaming

[pale quartz]

there will be

[molten flame]

what if they did a SKU where one CCD was normal while other had 3D

I think that would be possible since the CCD is thinned down to fit the V-cache anyway, no restraints in the physical side of things tbh

though I could see difficulty in making software behave properly with it

[frozen fractal]

xbox controllers are plug and play, everything else can be handled by steam, or some program like ds4windows with dual shock 4

@timid oracle

[timid oracle]

Okay that’s for the intel 🙏🏽

So bf selling items that were free 😑😑

Let me find out I hate when they do crappy stuff like that 😑

Scam 😑

[pale quartz]

impossible

TSVs cojoin into each CCD, it has to have asynchronous communication with each cache

[quick locust]

I like how it shows up with a SD card icon

dont mind the 10 TiB SD card

[toxic wigeon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZV5IvlUIAIWmm0?format=jpg&name=small