battlefield-legacy-titles

[tough lodge]

i kinda hate the gewehr m95 reload

the character just doesnt save the remaining ammo if you reload with still bullets in it

[dusty rain]

aim and fire

[tough lodge]

unlike any other bolt actions the character would just insert new bullets

[velvet obsidian]

With what gun

[dusty rain]

a rocket launcher or AA, a normal infantry gun wont do much to a heli

[wary mason]

https://streamable.com/qrcbtg

this also works

[fathom wharf]

How cool would it be if there was a commander app for nintendo switch. I never tried commander for BF4 but apparently you could do it on your phone / tablet.

It'd be cool if you could do it on the switch.

[dusty rain]

i rather go back to commanders being a part of the battlefield

where you could find them, and fuck their shit up. with certain limits of spawn camping so you couldn't just wait in the enemies base and kept spawnkilling them

i hated the BF4 app based commander

where you couldn't just easily go back to being a player, you had to reconnect

[fathom wharf]

Was it bad? Like I said. I never tried it.

[wary mason]

it wasn't that bad, it was just another option to play

[dusty rain]

the mechanics themselves weren't to bad, i just didn't like the disconnect and the idea of being commanded by a dude on the loo

older battlefields where you could just go destroy their arteliery tho 👌

[fathom wharf]

I loved being commander in BF2 and BF2142.

[dusty rain]

"hah! i'll toss some artillery on your ass"
artillery has been destroyed
"...crap..."

and then get a minion to repair it for you

or be bold and do it yourself

[solid hinge]

Can you train me

I’ve been trying to rendezook on BF4

[wary mason]

you press E and click on head

[solid hinge]

Fuck you

[wary mason]

[solid hinge]

[fathom wharf]

• Drops supply box on destroyed commander stuff to repair it *

• Phew * That's sorted it

...

Realizes I just resupplied the person in my base that blew up my commander stuff.

...

Damn.

[dusty rain]

wait, you could steal from enemy crates back then?

i don't remember that

[fathom wharf]

Yep

[dusty rain]

but the dropping of crates of commander assets was always funny

[solid hinge]

Yah

[dusty rain]

or dropping a car on someones head

[solid hinge]

dumbass snipers

[fathom wharf]

Yeah anyone could resupply from a supply crate.

[dusty rain]

sometimes solved server side with limits on where you could drop stuff

[fathom wharf]

It'd be cool if you could play commander in BF4 while also playing as a soldier. Maybe you have a family member that wants to help as comm.

They play on tablet while you play actual game.

[plucky chasm]

Dropping a resupply onto a building and crushing snipers

If I could just play commander mode from phone I'd totally do it

[fathom wharf]

Shame they discontinued support for it.

[plucky chasm]

Ikr

I'd maybe play bfv more if they allowed you do call in recon planes and arty

[solid hinge]

Commander mode the most underrated feature

[plucky chasm]

I've acquired a new cursed pog emote

[dusty rain]

i'm the grumpy commander that both likes the idea of losing assets when the enemy captures a conquest site . but also hates that i have to herd cats to get the site back, which is now swamped with tanks

[proud vapor]

what happened to the BF1 voice channel?

[deft thorn]

bfv too fun

[plucky chasm]

Bonus points when your team can't recapture the cruise missile objective despite you setting all their orders to capture it

[dusty rain]

i think i managed to use the cruise misile succesfully once

[fathom wharf]

What do you mean?

[plucky chasm]

I love the cruise missile on 311 and on Shanghai

[proud vapor]

lol I don't see it

[fathom wharf]

I love that all locker servers have commander disabled.

[proud vapor]

oh lol didn't notice the create

[plucky chasm]

I've played commander on locker like 5 times

So boring

[dusty rain]

how does that even work, it's mostly inside

[plucky chasm]

Just drones 24/7

And you can drop ATVs

[fathom wharf]

I can't imagine there is players out there that are "commander" mains.

[plucky chasm]

I'd do commander main so I could play in bed

Lmao

[fathom wharf]

lol

[deft thorn]

commander mode tooooo boring

[plucky chasm]

Just get better

[solid hinge]

Posting this here because #battlefield-2042 is hell

I mean commander its like THE support in battlelfield4,if you have something to do just hop on commander and put some drones.and trust me,it really helps,maybe in hardcore its kinda useless but on normal is

[ivory grotto]

cruise missile

operation servers are always active in bf1
but operation campaigns are dead for half a day

and when it's active only 1 server is full

unfair

[vapid talon]

Why is anyone in fking BF5 playing sniper in Breakthrough?!

[dusty rain]

why not?

[vapid talon]

The game is only frustrating

Cuz they are only camping

The whole team

[somber knoll]

Hello how to unlock different emblems in battlefield 5

Becuase i cannot unequip them and so i need some cool ones and i know i can hide them but i don't want to hide clan tag

[stuck sorrel]

Is there any in-game option to display FPS in BF1?

[somber knoll]

@stuck sorrel yes with origins

[stuck sorrel]

can u tell the steps?

[somber knoll]

@stuck sorrel just search on youtube how to turn on fps display on battlefield 1 with origins

Becuase is hard to explain here

[stuck sorrel]

ok

thnx

[solid hinge]

use the console

PerfOverlay.Drawfps 1

[finite copper]

ima back

[solid hinge]

what

[stuck sorrel]

with ` button ryt?

[solid hinge]

yes

[stuck sorrel]

ok i'll try

[karmic locust]

https://simplecryptoguide.com/how-to-buy-shiba-inu/

[solid hinge]

nice virus

[wet fossil]

I would’ve had the best k/d (25-1) if it wasn’t for that tank camping shit.

[golden walrus]

[wet fossil]

And I did that with iron sights Lee-Enfield.

Getting right stuck in, sometimes literally.

Honestly I’m surprised myself. The no.4’s iron sights never particularly agreed with me.

[queen canopy]

Lee enfield irons are pretty nasty, I used to use that all the time

[wet fossil]

I think I got like five melee kills all up. None of them being bayonet despite my best efforts.

[keen ginkgo]

Can I run bf2042 with a Ryzen 3400g, a Gtx 1660, 32gb ram?

[crystal mulch]

You should be alright on med/low

[wraith valley]

Put everything on low and you good

[ivory grotto]

is this a hack link?

[novel mirage]

Yes.

Don’t be stupid.

[ivory grotto]

I'm just confused why no one banned him

[cunning light]

no, it's not lol

[iron forum]

@blazing perch ez

[dusty rain]

even if it isn't, why click random links in discord

[novel mirage]

Exactly

[ivory grotto]

accident
and my phone is sometimes buggy

[opal swan]

its not frustrating for them lol

[deft river]

Funny how Bf 2042 increased Bf4 player count

[dusty rain]

well you gotta prepare by playing a simular game when it comes to weapons

[fast agate]

how much fps does the 3060ti get on 2042 at ultra?

[fast agate]

same for bf 1

[deft river]

Ye

[cunning light]

dont be expecting amazing performance at ultra with that

[fast agate]

ik, 60 is enough

[cunning light]

its largely CPU dependent rather than GPU dependent, but at 1080p 60 frames at ultra should be fine

[fast agate]

my cpu is ryzen 5 5600

[cunning light]

youll be fine then

[gilded zenith]

Why at ultra though

Ultra settings are just a selling point to casuals

On fps games

[fast agate]

idk i just wanted to know it as a reference

[gilded zenith]

And the beta is showed that cpu took the most amount of the load

My cpu was at 80-90%

While gpu was at 20-30

[fast agate]

i see

so how will the 5600 handle 2042?

[gilded zenith]

If they optimize it more

I guess with the right settings 200fps+

[soft pier]

easily 100+ FPS 1080p ultra, as long as you’ve got a decent CPU behind it

[gilded zenith]

Ultra idk maybe 100 but thats useless

Nobody plays fps games at max settings

[cunning light]

thats a total fantasy

200 frames isnt happening

[gilded zenith]

Even cs go which is many years old, people play at low res and low graphic settings

If they optimize it right

[fast agate]

i play bf 1 at ultra kek

[soft pier]

if they optimize it, possibly

[cunning light]

nope lol people need to get their reality in check

[soft pier]

but they won’t ever be able to get it as good as BFV optimization

[cunning light]

200 frames is a total nothing burger

[fast agate]

you think bf 5 had good optimization?

[soft pier]

better than 2042 sure as hell

[solid hinge]

Classes are back baby https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1453331777385345027?s=21

temporyal (@temporyal)

Class Specializations seem to make a comeback in #Battlefield Portal:

DICE might even introduce new traits for the 🪖 1942 faction to keep them in line with existing specializations in Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3.

Trait descriptions for all classes in the Beta client:

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Twitter · Oct 27, 2021, 12:04 PM

[fast agate]

dx 12 wasnt working and dlss made stutters

[soft pier]

how in the hell do they use almost the same engine and get 50% worse performance

graphics don’t even look that much better anyway

[fast agate]

ever since bf 1 i dont think graphics improved that much

[ivory grotto]

they peaked ig

[queen canopy]

People get rose tinted glasses over BF1 all the time

BF1's so fucking washed out

[novel mirage]

^

[fresh turret]

lemme give my opinion

[solid hinge]

bfv looks much worse than bf1

[fresh turret]

I got bf4 for free

and I fell in love with it

im new to the series

[queen canopy]

Its not hard to look "good" when everything's dark and brown or grey

[fresh turret]

so I decided to get bf1

[fast agate]

yeah

[fresh turret]

and I was blown away by the difference

so idk

[queen canopy]

BFV looks incredible IMO

[novel mirage]

I mean, it makes sense everything being brown and stuff, but a fair bit of maps that aren't some of the french ones are sepia or grayscale colors.

[fast agate]

ive not noticed it

[fresh turret]

from what ive seen, bf5 looks good as well

[ivory grotto]

but not all maps are gritty

[solid hinge]

do you want a colorful ww1 game haha

[fresh turret]

but bf1 has incredible atmosphere

ww2 wasnt all sunshine and ponies

so I dont agree with some of the atmosphere dice goes for in bfV

although I wont disagree the game looks great

[queen canopy]

Its not like the world instantly goes greyscale whenever there's a war on

[novel mirage]

Only talking about the graphical fidelity of the game, 1, 5, and 2042 all are somewhat similar, with 1 being the least colorful of them all. Surely within reason but that doesn't stop it from not looking great.

[fresh turret]

I mean in the context of bf1, yes. There as literally contsant smoke and air polllution from the fires and artillary and stuff

[queen canopy]

There's a reason destinations like the Pacific islands or Southern France are popular for vacationing. They're fucking gorgeous, and that doesn't instantly change just because there's a war

[uneven hollow]

so it ain’t like in the movies where everything is epic like extreme weather and tons of explosives and hot women

[queen canopy]

In the context of BFV, though, no.

[fresh turret]

bfv isnt that gritty though

the problem with WW1 vs WW2 is that in WW1, most of the war was fought in the same trench lines, with more and more destruction adding to the enviroments

[queen canopy]

I guess that's subjective, but it feels pretty gritty to me. Iwo Jima, Devestation come to mind

[fresh turret]

in ww2, the war was far more dynamic

[uneven hollow]

[queen canopy]

Definitely not as gritty as BF1, but still gritty

[fresh turret]

I wish both BF1 and BF5 had more dynamic lighting settings

[fast agate]

its so rare to see bf 5 actually has fanboys

[fresh turret]

I had to turn up my brightness in the bf1 campaign and on certain maps since I literally couldnt see shit

[fast agate]

i thought they didnt exist

[solid hinge]

gecc is a true bfv simp

lol

[uneven hollow]

every game has its fans

[queen canopy]

I guess I'm not allowed to enjoy a game

[novel mirage]

I dunno man, I like shooting people in BFV the most out of all of the games

[gilded zenith]

Honestly i dont care i wont be playing it anyway

[uneven hollow]

Apparently so sadly

[fresh turret]

did they finally fix the TTK?

[fast agate]

no lol dont get it from the wrong way

[uneven hollow]

Like after all it’s a fecking game

And game is game

[novel mirage]

It's been 5.0 but shittier ttk since last year.

[queen canopy]

That was a whole year ago

[queen canopy]

Hardly, the only major differences are at extreme range

[novel mirage]

(shittier because they nerfed ranged performance of most automatics) but it should still feel the same.

[fast agate]

launch was so shit in bfv everyone left

by the time they fixed it not much people remained

[queen canopy]

"everyone left"

[uneven hollow]

not as shit as bf4

[fast agate]

its still active tho

[queen canopy]

So then clearly not everyone left

[fast agate]

metaphor

[fresh turret]

I mean, at least in bf4 dice didnt straight up lie about half the ingame features

[queen canopy]

Hyperbole

What did they lie about in BFV?

Specifically

[uneven hollow]

Well what did everyone expect from a live service game

[queen canopy]

Let me guess, dragging?

[uneven hollow]

seems about right

[fresh turret]

I cant think of many on the spot if im being honest

plane crashes come to mind

I remember seeing a whole list about shit dice fucked up

cant find it though

[novel mirage]

But planes remaining as debris after they crash are in the game though.

[uneven hollow]

Well after all it is a live service game so yeah

[queen canopy]

Plane crashes and dragging were both mentioned during the reveal, but were later stated to have been scrapped due to practical reasons

[novel mirage]

Wait no I'm thinking of tanks, nvm.

[queen canopy]

No, like survivable crash landings. They were mentioned as a possibility pre-launch, but were scrapped

[novel mirage]

Oh those ones.

[fresh turret]

they also basically let firestorm die

[novel mirage]

Okay I was thinking of a different thing either way so yeah.

[fresh turret]

but they werent the main development team

so I dont blame them completely

[queen canopy]

Thats true, but I'm honestly not upset about Firestorm

[uneven hollow]

I mean just imagine if bfv had paid dlcs

[queen canopy]

(Because I couldn't give two shits about it LUL)

[novel mirage]

mentioned as a possibility
this too
Sometimes concepts just can't make it past the cutting room floor.

[fresh turret]

I think if something is shown to be a feature in the reveal trailer, it should show features that are coming to the game

not some random concept

[queen canopy]

At the time of the reveal trailer's creation, it probably was planned to be added

Same goes for the prosthetic arm, I'd imagine they planned on having that in the game, but dropped it due to feedback

[novel mirage]

Well that's just what you think, sometimes game development really doesn't pan out the way people hope for it to be unfortunately.

[queen canopy]

The prosthetic barely made it past the reveal

[uneven hollow]

Question is can we see her in 2042

[queen canopy]

h

[fresh turret]

Oh, I got another one

dragging dead teammates

to safety

[queen canopy]

Dragging, once again, had to be scrapped. Same deal as the crash landings

[novel mirage]

Already mentioned.

[fresh turret]

oop

[queen canopy]

Also, realistically speaking, dragging would've been useless at best and mechanically broken at worst.

In a fast-paced game like BF, if you have time to pick up and drag someone to safety, you have time to just revive them where they are

So it would've been pretty pointless

[fresh turret]

found the lidt

list

[novel mirage]

Is it that one really upvoted post on Reddit.

[fresh turret]

yeah

[queen canopy]

[fresh turret]

still want me to post it here?

or have yall already seen it

[queen canopy]

Probably no image perms

DM it to me, I haven't seen it

[novel mirage]

It's the most upvoted post on the BFV reddit, so I'm assuming majority of people who cared about the game would've seen it already

[fresh turret]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/g6ov9m/if_youre_going_to_buy_bf6_dont_forget/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[novel mirage]

I just remember when 2042 was announced, people were spamming & reposting that post like fucking crazy.

We get it, be skeptical about the game, now stfu and stop reposting this

[fresh turret]

bf2042 will suck on launch

like big time

but it has potential

I think once dice gets all the money from the COD boys, they might consider changing stuff

[queen canopy]

2042 will probably be just fine. Its the nitpicks that will get spammed everywhere

Or people will hyperbolize minor issues

[fresh turret]

I agree

I played the open beta

and it was really fun

[cunning light]

i wonder why

[solid hinge]

lmao this is sad

[fresh turret]

but the game will probably have issues on launch

just like every other bf game

[queen canopy]

I mean, in the context of what happened...that was a rather poor choice.

[fresh turret]

(since bf3)

[queen canopy]

Thank fuck patrick soderlund is gone

People love to say that it was DICE who said all those things, when it was almost entirely Soderlund's words

And he's gone now

[uneven hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-safe-dance-gif-13211112

[fresh turret]

yeah I dont care about that

[queen canopy]

Honestly, most people who routinely shit on BFV either never played the game or went into the game expecting to hate it, and played it for maybe an hour before dropping it and going back to the pinnacle of game design that is BF1

[fresh turret]

dont get me wrong

from what ive heard

bfv is good these days

I don't actually own it, I'll buy it next time it goes on sale

but dice made some dumb dumb decisions initially

and people shouldnt forget that

[novel mirage]

Pretty true.

I went to try BF1 the other day, besides being dead in Asia, it just felt like...

[solid hinge]

If you don't count all the hackers

[novel mirage]

It just didn't feel good.

[fresh turret]

people complain about bf1 hackers all the time

I mean yes, theres hackers

but I dont see that many unless im playing on dice official

[novel mirage]

Admittedly I still look at it with some fondness but I'd be lying if I said I would play 1 over 5.

[fresh turret]

and I dont really play on dice official

[queen canopy]

Every game has hackers, its not a unique problem to BFV

[solid hinge]

yeah even singleplayer games

[fresh turret]

dont expose my minesweeper hacks please

I just want to beat expert

[solid hinge]

lol

[smoky gazelle]

It gets a bit tiring when there's someone blatantly cheating every other game

in morning/early afternoon in uk anyway

[fresh turret]

I have 2 bf1 moods

popping off, or constantly getting spancamped by the arty truck or snipers

no in between

[novel mirage]

Understandable.

[proven charm]

i shit on it and i have hundreds of hours on it

[queen canopy]

Hence the "most"

[proven charm]

Man bf5 used to be fun but i played it to death

too much combined arms

[queen canopy]

Don't remind me

[proven charm]

The bugs in CA are all hilarious

[smoky gazelle]

BFV is pretty crap gameplay wise imo but the gun sounds and animations are 😩

[proven charm]

remember when you got flung out of the map lmao

[queen canopy]

Yeah, combined arms is a bit of a mess

BFV's best aspect is its MP gameplay IMO

[golden walrus]

true

best gunplay and movement in Battlefield, yet

[smoky gazelle]

yeah but the maps are 90% dogshid

[uneven hollow]

Tbh tho

[queen canopy]

Maps are hit or miss, but I enjoy them for the most part

[golden walrus]

i like most of them, particularly Devastation, Panzerstorm, Arras

[proven charm]

i fucking hate al sundan

the heat glare

ugghh it sucks

[queen canopy]

I can understand why people might not like them, but I personally enjoy the dynamics most of them make

[novel mirage]

I really only dislike 3 maps, and they're usually the 3 maps put together that every hates

[uneven hollow]

Still wished bfv had more pacific maps

[proven charm]

but al marj is decent

rotterdam is god tier

[novel mirage]

Panzerstorm - Al Sundan - Hamada

[golden walrus]

i like Al Sundan on Breakthrough

[proven charm]

solomon islands is the best map in the game tbh

[smoky gazelle]

aerodrome is awful too

[queen canopy]

Aerodrome is my personal least favorite yeah

[novel mirage]

But everything else is bearable - okay - good

[novel mirage]

Finally, someone gets it.

[golden walrus]

Aerodrome is the worst map in the game, everything else is quite good actually

[golden walrus]

agreed

Solomon Islands and Devastation, mmmm

[keen ginkgo]

should I preorder bf2042 on epic games?

[crystal mulch]

Up to you

You're still gonna need origin but yea

[gloomy dragon]

ok

[violet needle]

LMAO

[keen ginkgo]

Are there many people playing bf1 or bf5?

I'm thinking about buying one of those

Just unsure if the matches are quick to find

[crystal mulch]

Bf5 there are tons

Bf1 is time dependant

[keen ginkgo]

so i won't have any problems with empty servers in bf5?

[crystal mulch]

Nope

[mighty island]

Bfv has tons of people

The only thing your gonna have trouble finding randoms with are those special ops missions

[light kindle]

Yeah game's maps suck and vehicle combat sucks also imo

[light kindle]

You'll find a game easy

[light kindle]

I recommend BF1

[proven charm]

https://twitter.com/Standingfast85/status/1453218320203849736?t=_e3DMAE6-n--3L8amhsnqQ&s=19

Standingfast KingZook 👑 (@Standingfast85)

BFV officially beaten.

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Twitter · Oct 27, 2021, 4:33 AM

@queen canopy

[keen ginkgo]

I'm a sniper player

and the snipers in bf1 aren't that refined imo

[crystal mulch]

Bf1 is great

[light kindle]

BF1 is great for sniping

[crystal mulch]

But finding servers is sometimes not great

What region are you in manobi?

[keen ginkgo]

specially in my country

[keen ginkgo]

south america

brazil

[crystal mulch]

Ahh

[keen ginkgo]

between bf1, 5 and 2042, which one should I get?

[proven charm]

2042 tbh

bf1 is good and all but it might not be good on playcount in SA

[keen ginkgo]

that's my main concern

[edgy ridge]

yo guys about that Battlefield V broken video from TBAG is it bannable right?

where u can spam?

[crystal mulch]

2042 cause player count will be at all time high and you got a variety of eras

[keen ginkgo]

the problem with 2042 is my pc tbh

[edgy ridge]

spam panzerbushce

[brave coral]

if you're looking at getting a battlefield game at this point yeah i would probably hold off a couple weeks and get 2042

[keen ginkgo]

my pc isn't exactly good

the cpu is the main problem

the gpu can handle the game

and I have enough ram

[brave coral]

ah that's fair, although i'm not sure how different it is to bf1 and 5 in that regard

[keen ginkgo]

do you think a Ryzen 3400g could run the game?

my gpu is a gtx 1660

[brave coral]

tbh i'm one of the worst people to ask for that

[cunning light]

yes it can, expect low settings

[keen ginkgo]

any idea of the fps running on ultra low and shit like that

?

[cunning light]

you arent running on ultra whatsoever with that config

[keen ginkgo]

ultra low

[cunning light]

low is your only option, frame wise 40-50 ish frames

[keen ginkgo]

the lowest

[cunning light]

there is no ultra low

[keen ginkgo]

the bottom of the pit

[cunning light]

the lowest is low

[keen ginkgo]

okay I guess

the game on low isn't even ugly tbh

[edgy ridge]

what about this question is abusing glitches bannable on BF V?

[keen ginkgo]

advertising is quite literally on the not to do list of the server

nvm, already deleted

[edgy ridge]

D:

i guess its not then

[proper fiber]

Battlefield game set in the Iran-Iraq war would be amazing

[keen ginkgo]

way too polemic

[proper fiber]

What

[keen ginkgo]

it's a pretty recent conflict

[proven charm]

in some private servers yeah

but not in public servers

[edgy ridge]

thank you. So you are saying if I use that in public servers or official servers that has the word "[DICE]" I won't get banned but in private servers yeah. Alright I understand but will EA ban you for doing that?

cause I saw t bag doing it so its pretty much safe to do it right, I mean its so fun to have a semi auto panzerbushce

[proven charm]

EA wont ban for it unless you get mass reported which is rare since barely anyone reports

ppl can get butthurt and report you

but if you get banned or suspended you can easily appeal it

[edgy ridge]

oh alright then

thx

that answers my question

[silent crater]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[surreal valve]

Hello, how do i report an aimboter in game?

[golden walrus]

if you're on console just report their account

[barren yew]

Steam bf5 just got mostly positive

That makes me so happy

Seeing mixed made me sad

[fast agate]

can i have some teammates that let me do my job as a medic for ONCE?

i literally told 3 times they shouldnt skip

they still do it

[surreal valve]

No, you cant have normal teammates, only enemy team can have them, you will only get apes, that auto skip and use scout only for his rifles

[finite gull]

Just play BF3

[solid hinge]

Maybe cuz you suck

[fast agate]

i was the first in my team

with 16 revives

10 on the other

[solid hinge]

Noob

Get 100 revives

[fast agate]

idiot

its tdm

[solid hinge]

Team kill even

[fast agate]

not conquest

[queen canopy]

Oh well thats why your teammates are idiots

You're on TDM

I.E. you're surrounded by CoD transplants

[solid hinge]

Just play real life people will die for a medic

[uneven hollow]

Imagine tdm

[queen canopy]

TDM is just painful

[proven charm]

TDM peaked in BF3 / 4

really fun then

[crystal mulch]

bf3 tdm noshar canals

[proven charm]

i just noticed that the last few messages were all from ppl with the urban role

urban chat

[crystal mulch]

I never played tdm in 4

[proven charm]

its good

[queen canopy]

urban gang

[proven charm]

urban gang

[languid relic]

Locker is pog

[smoky gazelle]

It's also annoying on bf that the report button is not just a quick and easy thing.

[ivory grotto]

that's probably for the best
to prevent casual trigger happies from reporting whoever they want

[young dune]

how worth it is it to play bf3 in 2021, now that it's 10 years old?

[crystal mulch]

It's a good game

Finding servers that are alive can be a bit finicky though

[young dune]

I see plenty

[crystal mulch]

Yee

[radiant hearth]

hey

[crystal mulch]

I mean I'm playing in a server rn with dlc

[young dune]

the only thing I don't like is that i see the same 3 maps

[radiant hearth]

anyone wana play?

[young dune]

and i also dont have the dlcs because i got it from prime

[crystal mulch]

Ah

Oh also Kire battlelog has a tendancy to show fake player count

[gentle zenith]

bf 5 lots of cheats

[blissful bane]

lol

[pliant prawn]

Is firestorm shutting down for bfv?

[queen canopy]

Probably not...though there's really not many people around to play it

[pliant spruce]

Just had a game ruined by a chat spamming hacker with and invisible body and an instant kill 1911......

[glad thorn]

Question

[queen canopy]

answer, possibly

[glad thorn]

Since I bought 2042 for the Xbox one, and then got the series s can I still cancel my pre order and get money back to buy the series s version ?

I feel like that’s a very dumb question to ask now that i think bout it

[crystal mulch]

Nah it's not dumb dw

I'm assuming you bought standard

[glad thorn]

Yes

I don’t think they charge you right away from what I heard

[crystal mulch]

I dunno if xbox does but I know playstation charges you instantly

[rugged sequoia]

I was tweaking the server browser in BFV and managed to accidentally unlock The Challenge lol

[queen canopy]

Happens all the time

[tidal olive]

In bf1, which tank cannon does the most damage?

[red kindle]

most of the tank shells deal the same

but if we’re talking which tank can do the most damage it’s for sure the tank hunter land ship

[tidal olive]

with a good crew definitely

but yeah i was just thinking of the main cannon

[red kindle]

yeah you for sure need 2 good gunners

[cobalt siren]

for some reason, my BFV has very low fps

[tidal olive]

of like the heavy tank, assault tank, arty truck etc

[red kindle]

if you have a whole squad the heavy tank is great as long as your gun sets are good

but as a solo tanker the assault tank is probably the best pick

[tidal olive]

What's the difference between the stock heavy tank or the heavy breakthrough tank

other than the missing 2 gunners

like in gameplay

[red kindle]

i am not sure on that one

i don’t really use the heavy tank, not my style

[tidal olive]

I use the heavy tank as a mobile spawn point for my team

just go behind enemy lines and spawn them

since the extra seats and armor is good for this

[novel light]

Light tank with that heavy gun with big drop does good damage iirc

Forgot the name of it now

Issue being that it only fires forward, which neutralizes a lot of your agility advantage

[fickle pond]

Who plays bf bad company

[dense bone]

people

[fickle pond]

Lol

[solid hinge]

ññññññññññññññññ

ñññññññ

[midnight needle]

FT 17 with a low velocity 75mm howitzer

[ivory grotto]

the 2nd A7V variant has an AT shell
better for vehicles
the HE is recommended for infantry

[marsh wedge]

E

[ivory grotto]

and it has a tough recoil too

[tidal olive]

I see

[finite copper]

BaTTlEfIeLd IS goNna DiE if No Br

[gilded zenith]

not a bad game

tdm

[solid hinge]

Only a 2.3 KD

With an AEK

[gilded zenith]

its a tryhard tdm locker server

with other aek "tryhards" and some former competitve players

[solid hinge]

Ewwwwww

It’s just an AEK server

Blah no diversity, nothing unique

[gilded zenith]

atleast ive improved my infantry gameplay there more and quicker than in other servers

by playing against good players

[solid hinge]

Fun > Skill

It’s pretty unfun when everyone is literally only rocking one loadout

[gilded zenith]

how though

[solid hinge]

AEK kill small medpack

Rinse repeat

[gilded zenith]

well its fun for me

i enjoy more getting killed on that server than playing metro

[solid hinge]

It ain’t fun to me. Just repeating the same strategy

I rarely play on metro

[gilded zenith]

what do you play then

[solid hinge]

Mostly locker or just a server with all the maps

bZ servers or WHG where the UCAV is banned

[gilded zenith]

i sometimes play locker if i feel like it

usually those with weapon rules

usually rgt locker cause i know some admins

[obsidian elm]

anyone else actually like battlefield 5

[serene patrol]

I used to, but decided BF1 provides everything I want out of BFV and does it better. BF1 feels more WW2 than BFV sometimes

BFV vehicles are great, besides the insane imbalance of planes. That's all I enjoy out of it these days

[solid hinge]

boy do i have news for you

[topaz ocean]

love it

[obsidian elm]

I think that it gets too much hate

[clear hull]

agreed

[solid hinge]

im playin sum bfv rn

its decently fun

[topaz ocean]

a lot of dumb decisions, and it got dropped, but the core gameplay is great

[obsidian elm]

i love sniping in the pacific

[solid hinge]

yeah i love the narvik campaign its awesome

the snow storm battle at the end is my favorite

[sturdy stag]

is there any site where I can buy Battlefield V for around 1 euro like it was used to when BF was free in Prime Gaming?

[marsh wedge]

me

i wish i can play bfv but my homeworks dont let me play oof

idk maybe i love bfv only because i never played other bf then bf bad company 2 campaing only on a xbox 360 because i dont had gold lol

[solid hinge]

Anyone got any tips for unlocking the rsc optical in bf1?

[gilded zenith]

Play the game

[tidal olive]

Hardest gun to unlock is probably the martini sniper

post nerf it's kinda bad

[proven charm]

sounds like a cool idea

i wonder if dice will ever add this

[fair aurora]

responds to a 5 year old comment

[proven charm]

wdym its 2016

currently waiting for the new dlc in bf1

[ionic shoal]

lol

it is 2016 and why would u say its anything diffrent

[prisma garden]

wdy mean dude its literally 2016

[ionic shoal]

ik

[strong scarab]

2016 good year

[solid hinge]

is it true bf1 is filled with hackers on pc? I've seen stodeh playing quite a bit and he seems to find none

[kind gate]

yup, its pretty sad

but if you go to the salty noobs server, I haven't found any hackers there; its fairly chill

[solid hinge]

Rip

I'd love to play bf1 again oc PC. It was my favorite battlefield and looking back now its so well polished

I own the gun from battlefield 5

The Norway mission

[prime pine]

The krag Jorgensen?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[patent mason]

Ready when you are. Am looking for squad members to play with BF1

[solid hinge]

well since its unfortunately infested with cheaters im not gonna bother

[unique dust]

Not really, I’ve only ran into 1

[solid hinge]

Start supporting mac os

For god fucking sake

War thunder has better mac os support than the whole battlefield generation.

[serene patrol]

[solid hinge]

What

Thats true

Lol

[serene patrol]

I know but you have only Apple to blame, they have continually shit on gaming and made it more and more annoying for devs

so most devs just stopped bothering

[solid hinge]

Yea but

Look at WT

80 FUCKING FPS ON MED SETTINGS

ON A MAC PRO

M1

Like yo

[swift kayak]

Is the dice la camo still available through the dragon valley easter egg in bf4?

[solid hinge]

I expected 40 fps

LMAO

[swift kayak]

Better question, are unranked servers even still a thing? If so, how do I tell them apart from regular ones?

[solid hinge]

Yes

Atleast in bf3

When i used to play it

[swift kayak]

I mean in bf4

[solid hinge]

oh

Ig yes

If its unf

There was a thing in bf2

[swift kayak]

Unf?

[solid hinge]

Global unlocks

[solid hinge]

unofficial

[swift kayak]

Ahh

So I could rent a server to do this?

[solid hinge]

OH YES

RENT A SERVER

Make a server

Public

[swift kayak]

Ah sarcasm

My favorite thing to fear

[solid hinge]

I dont realy play bf4 much

Played it for a few years

[swift kayak]

I just want the funny invisiboi camo

[solid hinge]

Whats that?

[swift kayak]

Dice LA camo

[solid hinge]

o

[swift kayak]

In bf4 is apparently gives you thermal immunity

At least for your actual body

Guns and gadgets still show up tho

[solid hinge]

Hecker

[swift kayak]

Yer

[solid hinge]

If you use it in multi

[swift kayak]

Yea I believe so

[solid hinge]

h-

[swift kayak]

Sounds busted right?

[solid hinge]

Yessir

[swift kayak]

Especially op for snipers

[solid hinge]

Yes

Thermals: Let me introduce myself.

[swift kayak]

But yea I was just in a server but I couldn't find any of the buttons

So I can only assume it wasnt unranked

[solid hinge]

I dont know shit about bf4

tbh

I know alot bout bf3 and bf2

ah

[swift kayak]

I don't know much about any of them tbh

[solid hinge]

o

[swift kayak]

I'm still pretty new to battlefield as a whole

[solid hinge]

Playing since 2018

[swift kayak]

I've played 1, 5, and 4 but that's it

[solid hinge]

oh

[swift kayak]

So far 4 is the most fun

[solid hinge]

Yes'

But 5 is good

to

[swift kayak]

The heli controls are kinda bunk in 4

[solid hinge]

Since iam a wt player

[swift kayak]

Still not used to them

[solid hinge]

Its good to play 5

[solid hinge]

Same in bf3

Bf2 is like-

Its hard

[swift kayak]

EA stole my dollar

[solid hinge]

ea bought my doler

EA

[dusty rain]

BF2 helicopters felt easier to fly than BF4 ones. but that might've been because i played BF2 when i was still in middle school. so i had seas of time to practice

[wet fossil]

I know that the Stug was iconic, but in V I feel like they should have gone for the Jagdpanzer IV. Bigger gun to match up with the Archer’s 17 pounder. As it stands, the Stug is literally just a worse Panzer IV

[solid hinge]

Or the

Tiger 1

And the Allies

with Shermans

[jagged wren]

@solid hinge what is your favorite movie?

[solid hinge]

Dunkirk

[jagged wren]

Nice!

[solid hinge]

Why would you ask tho?

[jagged wren]

I’m curious

I’m bored

I get bored at night so i ask strangers

Dunkirk movie is historically accurate?

[solid hinge]

Yes

Not 100%

But yea

Dunkirk is a real thing

Search it up

[jagged wren]

I know

I like ww2

[solid hinge]

Same

I mean

[jagged wren]

Historians blame Hitl** for not attacking Dunkirk

My issue with Nolan’s Dunkirk that it was not bloody and brutal and realistic enough

My fav movie is Leon: The Professional

[solid hinge]

You cant say hit*er?

[solid hinge]

Bro

It was

The last scene

got me

[prime pine]

Dunkirk was pretty nasty as is

[jagged wren]

Yeah discord is soft like that

[solid hinge]

lol

[jagged wren]

Maybe last scene i don’t remember that

[solid hinge]

Yes

[solid hinge]

LIKE

IMAGINE

[jagged wren]

Best we2 movie ever is Saving Private Ryan?

[solid hinge]

evacuating more than 100k soldiers with what?

Civilian boats?!?!?!?!?!!?

TF

[jagged wren]

Yeah crazy!

[jagged wren]

?

[solid hinge]

Yea

But

It was made in the 90's

[jagged wren]

You should watch leon the professional

I give it solid 10/10!

[solid hinge]

Ok wait

[solid hinge]

Go to dm's

[jagged wren]

Sure

[solid hinge]

That art was inspired by allen deere

He was a ww2 ace

Has a fucking book on his near death experiences

Called Nine lives

[urban creek]

can i disable women in bf5

[dusty rain]

....bruh

i mean, you can just not pick them as your class/character?

[tiny stream]

Hello

[crystal mulch]

Halo

[tiny stream]

Tiger or Churchill VII

[unique wing]

where can I get help?

[novel mirage]

Tiger has HEAT rounds
Tiger wins

I wish you could use HESH shells on the Churchill without having to commit to the Howitzer cannon though

[tiny stream]

True

Ha chi or Sherman with rockets

[novel mirage]

I hate the Calliope lol

[tiny stream]

Why

[novel mirage]

The missile pods being on top make it really hard to not get shot by random stuff.

Hachi all the way

[tiny stream]

Sturmtiger or Crocodile Churchill

[novel mirage]

Crocodile

Sturmtiger is fun but it’s a bit of a pain in the ass sometimes

[tiny stream]

I’m proud of myself because I hit a bomber out of the sky with the strumtiger

[ivory grotto]

just 3 more headshots kill on mp18 optical
to unlock the ribeyrolles factory

[light kindle]

Probably. Fury is really good also

For WW2 I recommend watching Band of Brothers or The Pacific also

Hacksaw Ridge is also a good one

[ivory grotto]

woooo finally unlocked it

[jagged wren]

Band of brother is the best tv show in history of man kind

[wet fossil]

Landing a crisp headshot with the SMLE in BF1, no better feeling.

Sure the lag means that I have to pick off machine gunners, but dammit those old feels still work.

I keep forgetting that I'm actually able to spot in this game.

And that flares do not confer 3D spots.

[shrewd plaza]

Is just played bf3 on pc yesterday after playing it on console for 4 years now

[timid fractal]

They killed bf games

Cheats none stop

[shrewd plaza]

I didn't Regret it

Mouse and keyboard give a new experience to the game

[wet fossil]

Also are we just straight up not allowed to use custom emblems in 1 anymore?

Because I can see mine in my main menu, but it doesn't appear engraved on my guns, nor on the enemy.

[olive prawn]

@last hedge

[last hedge]

WDYM ""

[crystal mulch]

Pretty sure it got disabled

[solid hinge]

hey

[wet fossil]

I FUCKING HATE SIEGE OF SHANGHAI

GOD.

It's always the same two fucks in the same old helicopters doing the same old farming.

You fire a stinger, they fuck off back to spawn and recharge their ecm

Or use the thousand buildings for cover to stroll on over and obliterate you, no matter where you are.

Meanwhile, the gunship on your side will never actually try doing anything about them, and that's assuming that they're competent enough to win that fight.

[golden walrus]

do you hate everything?

[wet fossil]

I generally hate things that aren't fun.

[golden walrus]

lol, it sounds as though you have a, very serious, love/hate relationship with this franchise

[wet fossil]

Trust me, I'd rather be playing BF1 any day of the week, but the population of a certain country refuses to fucking play it unless it's at a flat 200% damage boost

[golden walrus]

sad

[wet fossil]

BF4's vehicle balance is actual cancer, and you bet your ass that it's never going to be patched.

These are people who haven't actually been seen on the ground in literal years.

Every time something is introduced to the franchise that actually poses a threat to them, they bitch endlessly until it gets nerfed into the ground.

Stingers were literally only effective in 2042 because they had two modes: hit, and miss. Nothing either player could do would influence which it would be.

So imagine how it'd be once that glitch gets fixed.

[untold aspen]

Can we go back to tracer darts

[wet fossil]

I'd like that. Gotta be better than the damn PLD.

[untold aspen]

If you're lucky enough to land one on an enemy helicopter, they have no chance of survival

[golden walrus]

wait, wrong thing

like, wrong thing

[wet fossil]

It is my honest belief than Shanghai should only have transport helicopters.

[golden walrus]

we need C-RAM

that's it

[crystal mulch]

I love siege of shang but I do agree if the attack chopper is too good its not fun

[untold aspen]

What about dawnbreaker

[wet fossil]

Mannable AA guns would be very appreciated. At least you'd be able to scratch their paint before they kill you.

[crystal mulch]

Dawnbreaker is nice

[untold aspen]

Just hope it doesn't turn into bf3

Where you can't fly a jet without getting killed by the guy who sits his ass down on the stationary aa all game

[golden walrus]

https://youtu.be/Q9XDRviA-ic

we need the C-RAM

this is our only hope

[wet fossil]

Does BF3 actually have manned AA

[crystal mulch]

Yes

[untold aspen]

Yes

[wet fossil]

Why the fuck isn't it in 4

[crystal mulch]

Spawns have manned AA

[untold aspen]

I don't know

[wet fossil]

Missiles suck so much ass that I'd literally rather have a WW1 era pom-pom gun.

[untold aspen]

Same reason why the rocket truck and tank destroyer aren't either

And that tankette thing

[crystal mulch]

Its in bf4

But its AI controlled

And will only fire if the vehicle is spotted

[wet fossil]

And it doesn't even make them flinch

I've seen them firing on very rare occasions but they're only there to discourage spawn campers. You'd have to be sitting right in front of them for about half an hour to actually see any effect.

[crystal mulch]

Apparently the base aa in 4 was busted at release

But they nerfed it into oblivion

[wet fossil]

You could give me a set of metal tubes welded together and I'd be more effective than the infantry AA in 4.

The fliegerfaust is my dream anti-helicopter weapon...

Nothing says Fuck Off like a volley of unguided airburst rockets.

[tiny stream]

Hello my people

[golden walrus]

does anyone know if there are any active servers on BFH, PS4/PS5?

[urban creek]

dont ever use bfh to refer to hardline ever again pls

[golden walrus]

why?

[ivory grotto]

should've got removed

[prime pine]

Ps4 you should be fine

[fast agate]

shock operations is the best mode of bf1 change my mind

[vivid rapids]

No, doesn't elaborate

[golden walrus]

well, PS5 uses PS4 servers, but sure, i'll take a look

[fast agate]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-big-gif-21053844

epic embed fail

:/

[brave wave]

Anyone wanna play some bf1?

[fast agate]

me

[wet fossil]

I tried to revive someone and it didn't work. I shrugged and charged it properly. And then proceeded to fry some poor dumb enemy that was hiding beneath the body.

[crystal mulch]

Bf4 reviving is finicky

[solid hinge]

are there any battlefield V groups/clans? I would like to join one and play together with others. I am from EU

[gilded zenith]

thats because on vehicle maps you just dont play infantry or you get farmed by vehicles

[finite gull]

O no

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/239788202745921536/903064076081561680/c1660f33-ef9b-49a7-a28c-76408bc514b5.mov

[wet fossil]

"Best game of the series", everyone.

[gilded zenith]

and if you want shanghai to be transports only why dont you play the attack heli

honestly i dont get why people vote shanghai when its voting time

its literally asking to get farmed

with me in the heli

[finite gull]

With portal

[gilded zenith]

and i enjoy flying more than gunning

[finite gull]

We’re gonna get the same experience

Only in 4K

[wet fossil]

Well for starters the attack heli is taken by the pilot mains so quickly it's like they've got a macro specifically for it.

And if you do somehow luck out and get the gunner seat, the pilot will immediately throw a shitfit about it.

[fast agate]

Wtf

hellriegel is so shit now

unplayable

ew

[wet fossil]

Use a real gun.

[fast agate]

yeah

i like automatico

[ivory grotto]

how

[gilded zenith]

because they can most likely solo better than have a level 20 on the gunner seat

[fast agate]

recoil is really hard to control now

[ivory grotto]

both variants?

[queen canopy]

The Hellriegel's recoil is still stupidly low, wdym hard to control?

[wet fossil]

No, it's because they want their other pilot main buddy in that seat, like they have been 24/7 for the last five years.

[queen canopy]

Like its noticeably easier to use the Hellriegel than most other guns in class

[gilded zenith]

not always

[wet fossil]

Last time I got the seat with a decent pilot, he put me into his voice party just to shout the n-word at me a bunch.

Fucking yanks.

[gilded zenith]

i would appreciate gunners who actually knew what to engage at what point

[fast agate]

i find automatico more easier to control lmaooo

maybe because i use it alot

but i didnt like hellriegel

so ill keep using automatico

[wet fossil]

The hellriegel's boring as hell anyway.

[fast agate]

yeah

[wet fossil]

Zero personality, it just shoots.

[gilded zenith]

im sometimes in line of sight with the enemy heli and the guy just doesnt shoot a tv at that point i just tell them to get out or burn them

[wet fossil]

Yeah because just anyone can nail a helicopter with a tv missile.

Those things can't turn for shit.

[gilded zenith]

yes they can bruh

just practise

[wet fossil]

How the fuck am I supposed to practice if you fuckers won't let me in

Think.

[gilded zenith]

in boats maybe

[wet fossil]

My boat's got better shit to shoot, namely AA missiles at you.

[crystal mulch]

I'm ready for bf4 heli mains to camp heli spawn in 2042

[gilded zenith]

2042 helis were a joke

[finite gull]

What I’m about to say is objective fact and cannot be changed

[wet fossil]

As they should be.

[tiny stream]

Lol

[finite gull]

The F35 is better than the SU-50 in 2042

[gilded zenith]

attack heli was unbalanced and the handling was bad

[wet fossil]

I can't make any judgements about jet performance in 2042 because they had the worst performance ever.

[finite gull]

Here’s why

[wet fossil]

I've flown bombers with better turning.

[finite gull]

F35 can VTOL

SU-50 can’t

[gilded zenith]

so what

[finite gull]

F35 allows for better infantry farming

[tiny stream]

I don’t have 2042 is the A 10 in it

[gilded zenith]

dont tell me you were one of those idiots who just vtol the entire game and spammed seekers

[finite gull]

Sadly no

[finite gull]

Nah

I tried dogfighting

[tiny stream]

😦

[finite gull]

Like twice

[wet fossil]

The A-10 needs to stay in the scrapyard where it belongs.

[finite gull]

How dare you

[gilded zenith]

a10 was never good in bf4

just saying

[wet fossil]

Give me an F-15E and then we're talking.

[tiny stream]

Sturmtiger > A-10

[gilded zenith]

i would take the su25 and q5 over it any day

[finite gull]

I want the F18 back

It was in BF3

[crystal mulch]

Infantry main

[wet fossil]

Though I suppose it'd be the EX model by then

[finite gull]

And for some reason they removed it for BF4

[wet fossil]

I'd like the Americans to be represented by literally any branch but the fucking marines.

[finite gull]

The marines are kinda perfect tho

They’re trained for all types of warfare

[wet fossil]

It even extended to BFV, where the default American outfits are all Marine gear because they were introduced in the Pacific update.

[gilded zenith]

its not that

[finite gull]

So it makes sense why they’d be in Battlefield games

[gilded zenith]

its that they operate all the equipment

tanks jets etc

[tiny stream]

What contries are in 2042

[finite gull]

The only game that doesn’t have the US marines is BF1

[wet fossil]

It's called inter-service cooperation.

The Air Force has way cooler shit.

[finite gull]

And technically BFV has both the marines and army

Marines in the pacific

[wet fossil]

And if I see one more fucking LAV

[finite gull]

Army in Europe

[wet fossil]

Yeah but the Europe maps are still wearing the same default marine outfits

Because most players are lazy and won't customise.

[finite gull]

That’s true

[wet fossil]

Also the Army did more amphibious landings during the war than the marines did, including in the pacific.

[finite gull]

I’m not sure about that claim

In Europe

North Africa

Sicily

Italy

Southern and Northern France

[gilded zenith]

those were the army but marines did most of the pacific landings

[finite gull]

And this is why the P51D is the best fighter in BFV

6x 50. Cals

M8 rockets that can OHk a puma

Good maneuverability

Perfect cockpit sight for dogfighting

And the reticle is just amazing

[wet fossil]

I'd say the 109 version with the rockets. It gets the heavy guns, extra mobility, quick repair, AT rockets, and a manual nitro boost in one upgrade path.

It kills everything.

Meanwhile the damn Spitfire gets hung out to dry because it never got rebalanced.

[finite gull]

Yes but you see the G6 has the high alt spec which most people abuse so it loses 100K social credits

Also the Spitfires are still decent

The VA still has the 8x

Which still shred

And the VB has rockets and higher caliber guns

[wet fossil]

The VB can't even get rockets without completely destroying its own survivability.

[finite gull]

That shorter repair time can be pretty helpful tho

[wet fossil]

Not to mention that it gets stuck with only two 50s and two cannons.

Both of which suck.

[fast agate]

btw i think i im just used to being extremely aggressive with the automatico so i cant use anythibg else now lmao

[finite gull]

The 50s are good wing shredders

[wet fossil]

Yeah but it doesn't get six of them.

[finite gull]

The Hispano cannons are good for general use as well

[wet fossil]

The cannons are near worthless. They don't do any splash damage and their fire rate is too low to be useful.

[finite gull]

Hey at least it wasn’t the period of time where the rockets could OHK any tank

[wet fossil]

That was a good time. My guess as to why that was happening was because each of its eight rockets was doing the same damage as one of the heavy AT rockets the Germans used.

[finite gull]

I mean granted I do have a higher opinion of the VB since I have near 1K kills with the thing

[wet fossil]

Which means that it effectively had four times the firepower.

The German planes got rebalanced to keep up with the Americans, but the British never had the same treatment.

The Mosquito is still one of the most useful planes in the game though.

[proven charm]

109 is still better

[teal fractal]

yikes lmao