battlefield-legacy-titles

[jagged tree]

The Panzerfaust looks so cool and is such a good looking concept but fuck they are horrendously underwhelming in terms of damage.

[glacial oar]

You should try the M1A1 Bazooka

Good range

good damage

[jagged tree]

I use it as the Americans

Historically accurate loadouts

[glacial oar]

yep

[jagged tree]

I use the PIAT for the brits

[glacial oar]

interesting

[digital knoll]

Does Battlefield 4 multiplayer work

[glacial oar]

Not sure

am not playing it rn

[cunning light]

yes

[digital knoll]

hmm ok , might be a networking problem on my end

[opal swan]

a man of taste i see

what rifle did you pick for jap assault tho?

[jagged tree]

I just don't play the Japanese

I have a filter for viewing that excludes all maps that have the Japanese because I fucking hate the katana

[opal swan]

haha

[jagged tree]

And if I somehow get on the jap team I use a German elite skin and then I just use my German loadouts

Because I got free elite skins for whatever reasons

[ivory grotto]

why no Japanese weapons

[jagged tree]

they're all either horrendously overpowered or underpowered

[compact parcel]

bfv is dying):

[opal swan]

assault gets shit guns tho, even for brits, i have the turner SMLE and the other one i started out with m2 carbine, but that is just a cringe weapon, so i use m1 carb

[glacial oar]

sadly

[glacial oar]

try the STG

[jagged tree]

Gewehr 43 with detachable magazines is super underrated

[compact parcel]

ive tried to join 7 gamemodes and all lobbies were empty

[glacial oar]

rip

[ivory grotto]

so much for a ww2 comeback

[jagged tree]

I use the gewehr43 for Germans,

[opal swan]

but that is for germans, i do have stg44 and g43 there for both loadouts

[compact parcel]

only strategic conquest is the most pplr

[glacial oar]

yea

idk why

[jagged tree]

The G43 is super good

If you can use it

[glacial oar]

breakthrough is a much more fun version of conquest ngl

[jagged tree]

I think BFV would make a comebackIF DICE WOULD FUCKING MAKE A RUSSIAN DLC

[opal swan]

lol nope

[twin wagon]

Why do you say that One?

[glacial oar]

he tried joining seven gamemodes and all lobbies were empty

[jagged tree]

or even any other country
"but nooo, we'll give up on the game because not putting effort into it isn't fixing that it's dying, oooooh well"

[ivory grotto]

almost a decade passed since a ww2 game
yet they ditched bfv a year earlier 🤦‍♂️

and for what? a pseudo modern futuristic game

[glacial oar]

@compact parcel what region do u play in?

quite strange having empty lobbies

[compact parcel]

AEST

[glacial oar]

oh

damn

[compact parcel]

but i play on rish hour which is odd

*rush

[glacial oar]

strange

[compact parcel]

maybe ill try find a way to change regions on my xbox

Goat™

[opal swan]

you need a sizeable tem to come up with a new faction, vehicles and maps

[jagged tree]

That's true, but they're making an entire new game right now

[opal swan]

sooo, not worth it, after the game flopped on launch

[ivory grotto]

russian army in bf1
already a thing

[jagged tree]

It flopped because they didn't put effort into it and expected it to be good

[opal swan]

yep, but damage was done, time to move on

[jagged tree]

Games can unflop if they put effort into shit

[clear hull]

yeah BF4 wasnt really saveable

[jagged tree]

Like how Minecraft came back after whatever the hell they did

[opal swan]

minecraft is the only one in its genre

[jagged tree]

not very true

7 days to die is kind of similar

Can't forget about BlockCraft 3D

[opal swan]

cant forget, because ive never heard of block craft 3d lol

[jagged tree]

It's a joke about all of the knock offs

[opal swan]

while i know some fps titles, if bfv flops, i have bf4, bf3, hell, bf2, enlisted, COD, you name it

[jagged tree]

I don't like cod

[opal swan]

market is saturated with fps games

neither do i

[ivory grotto]

i expected a solid bf ww2 title after 9 years of not having one

[clear hull]

same

[jagged tree]

If bfv goes down I'll just go back to bf1

[opal swan]

the games have become so similar that the devs are relying only on their name to carry them

[jagged tree]

yup.

[solid hinge]

bh5 already down

[jagged tree]

I wish I could play Enlisted but I can't

[solid hinge]

2042 the savior

[jagged tree]

I don't like 2042

[opal swan]

so the logic with bfv was - we KNOW that people will buy the game, so we CAN have black people and prosthetics and women, and this combo WILL teach them compassion and respect for all human beings, no mater their abilities and disabilities

but in reality, i want to have a serious immersive experience, in an arcade shooter

[jagged tree]

Oh God I forgot about the prosthetics

I mean, they were accurate with coloured people, only having them for Americans and Brits

But what the fuck made them go "yeah, we'll jam in random robot hands"

no

[opal swan]

therefore i bought it on the sale for the 6€, and that price is kinda right... similar to enlisted, plus 6€ worth of destruction lol

[ivory grotto]

it bums me when they fail at that and return to the same modern-future bf genre

[jagged tree]

Yeah, I don't like modern shooters, actually.

Or futuristic ones.

Anything prior to like, the 1990's is my fuckin' jam.

I would fucking kill for a FPS game with the Chechen wars.

[opal swan]

project reality.. but you are 5 years too late

[jagged tree]

Definitely not so I can use a PP-91.

[clear hull]

whats the chechen wars

i've never heard of that

[jagged tree]

It was a rebellion war in Russia in the 90s

In the district of Chechenya

Hence uh, Chechen wars

[tame sleet]

we live to see another day with CIA UMBRELLA PROJECTS

[clear hull]

Oh yeah that thing is like a bizon on steroids right

[jagged tree]

no

[opal swan]

skorpion

[clear hull]

Ah im thinking of the PP90M1

close enough

[jagged tree]

It's a machine pistol that held 30 rounds of 9mm with a fire rate of like, 1000

[clear hull]

oh

it looks kinda like a ripoff skorpian

[jagged tree]

I guess, it's real small, though

Like if you're a big person, like 6'4 or taller and you folded the stock, you could probably hide it in a winter coat

kind of like how my 6'10 dad manages to hide a .45 on him that's virtually invisible

[queen canopy]

tfw 5'11"

[clear hull]

TFW 5'6

[jagged tree]

uh

I'm 6'2

[clear hull]

jeez

[jagged tree]

I'm not even done growing,

Another decade left

Well, 9 years because my birthday is soon

[clear hull]

how old are u

[acoustic bay]

Bruh like 3 hours later

I got

3 hackers

In one lobby

One with over 200 kills

and one with 120

and another just teleporting

what the hell is this game man

bf1 btw

[clear hull]

Pain

[quick root]

me too in dice conquest server ?

[acoustic bay]

yep

guys name is shames

been in my lobbies multiple days now

[quick root]

exactly

[acoustic bay]

ea does not care

[quick root]

the toher namie is thruth something

and is copypasting url about h*tler

[acoustic bay]

Yep

[quick root]

both pretending to be admins

[acoustic bay]

Yeah

sad

sad to see a good game just given up on by the ACTUAL devs

[clear hull]

I kinda wish they had some more devs there to just fix bugs on older games and stuff

[acoustic bay]

they would never lol

If only

If only votekick existed in this game

Man that would be nice

[quick root]

I just signaled the h*tler one i hope it works

[balmy finch]

y'all remember whenever turning tides first came out the smg 08 had the fire rate of the chauchat and everyone thought it sucked

no look it at

:(

[ivory grotto]

its rate of fire irl is unknown? @balmy finch

[solid hinge]

and it turned out to be one of the most wack and used smg in bf1

[balmy finch]

it's the most overused smg

and then the hellrigel

then automatico

I'm guilty of using the automatico tho

worth it

25 rounds of fun

[clever breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcKyMm-OrE

another bug Auto AT rifle

ppl start to use it

[ivory grotto]

is it bad that i prefer the premium expansion pack system?
ik it costs money but at least it came up with a stable content release

[queen canopy]

Maybe don’t share this everywhere?

[clever breach]

too late its on youtube already its not my video

[harsh moss]

Hey, I've tried asking this question in other chats, and I've not gotten an ounce of response: Was there a means through which Snipers could Dope their Scopes in this new BF Game? At least in the BF2042 Beta?

I tried it, couldn't figure it out

Would be real shitty if this game, which offered true long range sniping didn't use doping

[solid hinge]

Dope their scopes?

Explain

Like you mean changing the range

[harsh moss]

Scope Doping is the process by which a sniper sets the range at which their rifle is zeroed

[unique dust]

Do u mean zone?

[harsh moss]

Yes

[unique dust]

Zeroing***

[harsh moss]

Zeroing

[unique dust]

Oh right, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t in the beta

[solid hinge]

Ah so zeroing. Yea it wasn't in the beta hence i stopped trying snipers but hopefully it's in full game

[harsh moss]

I really fucking hope so

[solid hinge]

Otherwise sniping and dmrs won't ever be touched by me unless I'm quicksciping

[harsh moss]

Sniping in the beta was fucking useless without it kek

[solid hinge]

Best sniping in battlefield for me is 1 and 5

[harsh moss]

And since there were no Mildots on the Scopes

[solid hinge]

BF4 sniping with the scope felt weird at times

[unique dust]

The sniper in the beta could be converted into a close range bolt action, which is why I think they made it bad

[solid hinge]

Ah so they made it a quickscoper

Fun.

[harsh moss]

I tried sniping, but the ping was fucky

[solid hinge]

I tried sniping but the ping and frame rate and damage made me stick to bunny hopping with a shotgun

Even the shotgunning felt weak

Honestly the beta felt eh

Gun play wanted to feel good but the netcode made so many ghost shots occur

[clear hull]

shotguns are shit in 2042

Not because they're badly designed just that the general engagment ranges are way farther out than a shotgun can ever reach

[queen canopy]

That doesn’t really make it better

That’s like saying “oh well we’ve only committed genocide on 50k people, 4 or 5 more deaths won’t make a difference. Obviously much different level, but same line of thinking

Least I’m not resorting to insults because I don’t know how to make a point

And also I literally said “obviously much different level”

So call me an idiot all you want if you’re not gonna read what I actually write

Yes, they are. Same sort of thinking though

Much different severity obviously

I’m not contesting that

Holy fuck I get it, it’s nowhere near as bad as genocide. If you’d read what I actually wrote, we wouldn’t be having this stupid in-circles argument

Just because a bunch of people have seen it doesnt mean you should go spreading it further

That’s my entire point

But if you wanna keep going down the moral intricacies of whether video game deaths are as bad as real ones, go for it

I have 1.2k hours on BFV, achyually

[urban garden]

lawd

[queen canopy]

Dude. I’m not comparing it to genocide. It’s the line of thinking I’m talking about, not the severity

How many times do I have to say it

Once again, all this over a video, like you said

Matter of fact, if you wanna know why I care so much, it’s because I know how severe that bug could get if it gets exploited, and care about the state of the game…so, yknow, excuse me.

[midnight needle]

So. What’re we talkin about? @queen canopy @tardy radish

[bleak marlin]

It might be the Tv Ad

[queen canopy]

Long story

[bleak marlin]

they talking about

Is this because of Tom Brady

[midnight needle]

TV ad?

....

[bleak marlin]

https://youtu.be/xnqSBH2iqiU

[midnight needle]

Tom Brady and.... genocide?

Oh. Let’s see

[queen canopy]

Oh yeah, the TV ad giving off big Black Ops 2 vibes tbh

[bleak marlin]

oh nooo

noo

wtf

[novel mirage]

Video game bugs bad, basically.

[midnight needle]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA!

[bleak marlin]

its not a bad Tv Ad

[midnight needle]

It’s fucking hilarious

[bleak marlin]

at least they got the Robo dog in the last part

[queen canopy]

The 2042 TV ad reminds me of that “Surprise” ad for Black Ops 2

[midnight needle]

So wait wait wait

[bleak marlin]

aye

[midnight needle]

What about this ad sparked that conversation above?

[bleak marlin]

https://youtu.be/pyjicUdj59w

[novel mirage]

Nothing actually. It was from even before that.

[midnight needle]

Oh

[novel mirage]

Bolt action rapid fire bug, then a small back and forth about game bugs

[midnight needle]

Bolt action rapid fire?

In 2042?

[novel mirage]

No in BFV

Negate the rechambering animation and just keep shooting

[midnight needle]

Oh pfft

[queen canopy]

Yeah I’ve come across someone using it…I’d rather that get spread as little as possible

[bleak marlin]

only good Tv Ad I find good in BF is this https://youtu.be/coOHjF4_apI

[queen canopy]

https://youtu.be/K2Qpui1hYBw

Funny story behind this one, back in the MW2 days

[bleak marlin]

ahhh bad company

Nad spam

[queen canopy]

https://youtu.be/DnLxFkWv5SM that BC2 ad was a direct response to this ad for MW2 with some rather “”””””Subtle””””” humor

(Mods pls no ban, Activision’s choice not mine)

There was a lot of backlash over this ad so BC2 capitalized

[bleak marlin]

lol

[queen canopy]

Anyways, a fun little story about gaming

[wraith valley]

Is there a battlefield ww2 discord

[acoustic kite]

man the player retention for the japanese maps is asss lol

[queen canopy]

Bad company did a lot of parodies of other games’ ads actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARlvAzuqRfM For example

[lean inlet]

I love how bf1 has poor latency

Why do i keep giving this gane a chanc3

For the love of god stop matching me high levels

[queen canopy]

There’s no skill or level based matchmaking, it matches pretty much exclusively on connection and server population

I’d suggest just using server browser

[lean inlet]

I did that and still get matched with high levels

Seriously, why cant we just have operations added as a war story expansion?

[queen canopy]

What do you mean?

[lean inlet]

Operations cover more parts of ww1

It would be awesome as a war story

[queen canopy]

How would they work as war stories though?

They're MP, war stories are SP

[lean inlet]

The battle between the whites and reds would have be a great addition to the war stories

And thats just one example

[queen canopy]

Maybe, but the point at which they added the Russians was well past the point of them really caring about SP

[lean inlet]

Shame

SP is better than MP in every way

[queen canopy]

The average player spends MUCH more time playing MP than SP, so spending a ton of effort on SP content would probably just hurt the game in the long run

BF SP's are generally mediocre IMO anyways

[solid hinge]

[lean inlet]

No I think most people enjoy current bfs thanks to the stories

[queen canopy]

Same reason they dropped SP entirely for 2042, the community disproportionately cares more about MP

[lean inlet]

Its why bf and cod are so alike

[lean inlet]

They are making a grave mistake

[queen canopy]

BFV's SP is seen as mediocre at best, but BFV's MP is often seen as some of the best in the franchise

[lean inlet]

No one wants to play fawnite advanced warfare 2042

[lean inlet]

No, for me Its the oppositr

BF1 and BFV convinced me that war stories need to be the main focus

[queen canopy]

Sounds like you can't differentiate your own opinion from the community's

[solid hinge]

This dude is trolling

[lean inlet]

And last time I checked, BO4 died due to q lack of story

[queen canopy]

Starting to think so too tbh

[solid hinge]

this dude is hard trolling

[lean inlet]

You mean you?

[acoustic kite]

LOL

you hell trolling fam

[solid hinge]

[lean inlet]

Its kinda true tho

[acoustic kite]

Aint no one caring about the "story" even tho War stories were goo

[solid hinge]

his opinion = true

[acoustic kite]

good*

[lean inlet]

The best fps moments came from story focused sp games

[solid hinge]

Wanna know whats a good story game? NieR Automata.

Play that if you want story

[queen canopy]

Man, this is the problem with genuinely wanting to talk to people. I engage with the trolls too much

[solid hinge]

NieR 👌

[acoustic kite]

theres a reason 2042 is all about MP and community support not some half assed attempt at stories through MP incursions like operations lol

[lean inlet]

Like No Russian, the finale of Mw1, Paris being nuked and etc.

Multiplayer is just meant to be filler

[solid hinge]

we do not care

[acoustic kite]

Fam you really that stubborn lol

[lean inlet]

All you are going to get are souless rip offs of quake then

Look at battlefront 2

[acoustic kite]

LOL

[queen canopy]

Ok yeah he's trolling

[lean inlet]

The arc of the elite storm troopers

[queen canopy]

Moving on

[lean inlet]

That is a good story right there

[acoustic kite]

ya you trolling for sure or just tonedeaf af

[lean inlet]

And thats probably what people will remember battlefront 2 years in the future

Not the MP

But the absolute banger of stories dice put out

[solid hinge]

We do not care

[queen canopy]

I've been out of town for a few days and I haven't been able to play BF because I didn't bring my Xbox with me

[acoustic kite]

I only remember Battlefront is cause of the MP tf you on. I played that shit on the original xbox through xbox live

[queen canopy]

And I'm really regretting that right now because like all I've wanted to do is play BF

[lean inlet]

Then you missed the point

[queen canopy]

Its kinda unfortunate lol

[lean inlet]

Its like playing cod mw3 only for multiplayer

[acoustic kite]

there was no story you goon lol

[solid hinge]

[lean inlet]

Yes and no

Its basically operations

[solid hinge]

Updating AMD drivers aka getting served dogshit on a silver platter

[lean inlet]

But on a more primitve scale

[acoustic kite]

operates deez nuts

[solid hinge]

[lean inlet]

Cant operate if I cant find them

[solid hinge]

You gonna say something back?

[lean inlet]

He shook

He a cap

[queen bone]

anyone wanna get a squad of bfV

[queen canopy]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[serene patrol]

AMD drivers

I bought and returned a RX 6600XT this week because their drivers are still a joke. From the software crashing for no reason, card not clocking properly, overlay being buggy and youtube videos freezing randomly

was playing BFV and the card clocked itself down to idle clocks, ran at 40FPS no matter what

[cunning light]

ah yes the AMD driver bad myth, sounds like you just fried your previous Nvidia drivers lol

[queen canopy]

Ooh time to watch people with PCs bash each other over hardware

[serene patrol]

nope, used DDU uninstaller twice. Tried 2 different fresh driver installs. Not a myth they are still garbage

[cunning light]

really? because I've had devices from all 3 major hardware providers and I've not had any major issue with any of them

and millions of others haven't either

[serene patrol]

wish I had that experience, I have not have a good AMD GPU experience since like 2011

[cunning light]

this isn't 2011 and your experience doesn't = the experience of others

you're in a small minority, their drivers are fine

your config issue doesn't = the drivers being bad

[serene patrol]

cringe

[cunning light]

meh say what you want it's not rocket science

my 2080ti crashed repeatedly with numerous driver freezes did I say Nvidia drivers are shit? no, because they aren't

[serene patrol]

they are shit, but they are more useable than AMD drivers

[cunning light]

based on what?

you've had numerous 3090's die and you're trying to tell me that their drivers are somehow more usable?

[serene patrol]

based on the vast majority of people complaining about drivers and your so called "myth" being solely aimed at AMD. If Nvidia was just as bad, they'd have that stigma too

[cunning light]

there is no "vast majority"

what are you even talking about

[serene patrol]

that was literally 100% caused by faulty hardware

idk wtf you're talking about do you never go on the internet?

[cunning light]

oh right you mean faulty hardware which is controlled by the driver

yes very stable driver right there

no safeguards put in place for vcore restrictions totally safe and stable

did you miss Nvidia literally just releasing a bios patch for the 3080ti which were literally black screening the entire desktop?

last week?

[queen canopy]

🍿

Daily reminder that suppression is fucking stupid

[novel mirage]

[solid hinge]

Fortunately. Support has the almost similar thing

[solid hinge]

Best to take cover when suppressed

It's good when you don't want people to land accurate shots on you

Except if there's 2 sniper or 2 medic

[queen canopy]

I was in cover, I only got shot once in that clip

[queen canopy]

Thats the problem though, my sights were directly on the guy for most of that burst and I didn't hit him because suppression

Its generally bad to take control out of player's hands

[whole scarab]

Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because poster was already dead.

[balmy finch]

do you not have pin down or unbreakable?

[queen canopy]

I definitely missed a few shots towards the end, but by that point he should've been long dead. The first 7-8 shots (out of 15 remaining) were almost exactly on target.

5 rounds fired at the first guy, only hit one. Not too worried about that. Next 7 rounds fired at the second guy were aimed directly at him, missed another 6-7 because of spray (and frankly disbelief at the misses since the Chauchat's fire rate is slow enough for my brain to process the bullshit I just witnessed) and then the last 2 were either very close or on target. Should've been long dead.

Keep in mind, I only got hit once.

[solid hinge]

true/

spray control dont matter when suppressed by mg

[prime pine]

If they're bringing back bloom hopefully suppression isn't coming back.

[queen canopy]

It wasn't an MG though, it was a medic rifle

The guy was pretty clearly firing semi

[solid hinge]

ze mondragon ?

or the sniper rifle for me

med

[queen canopy]

Sounded like a Cei Rigotti but I don't know for sure since I never got close to him and he didn't kill me

Either way the guy was medic

Didn't have an MG

Its beside the point anyways

Suppression is stupid, my accuracy should've been just fine there but because he missed a bunch of shots mildly in my direction my accuracy went out the window

[solid hinge]

let me see

selbstalder ?

[unique dust]

Suppression is fine & it’s stupid they are getting rid of it in 2042

[queen canopy]

They got rid of it's accuracy-penalizing aspect in BFV too, which worked well

Used it for spotting instead

[prime pine]

Make it give people more tunnel vision, don't fuck people's aim over.

[queen canopy]

Suppression is IMO bad because its the sort of thing that causes deaths where you sit there and go "well, there's nothing I could've done about that", which is a big no when it comes to game design

[unique dust]

That’s fair I suppose but if you are being suppressed you shouldn’t be able to just snipe the gunner

[prime pine]

I dont mind suppression spotting cause at least everyone knows the guy is there.

Well if you get a good hit on the guy that's their problem for failing to kill you.

[queen canopy]

Then maybe give guns a bit more sway? Don't just chuck accuracy out the window, but keep it so that if people just breathe and aim carefully they should absolutely be able to snipe the gunner

[unique dust]

Not necessarily when in BF4 the accuracy on most LMGs aren’t the best

However bf4 balanced it by reducing your accuracy while suppressed, which made it fairer

[solid hinge]

not like you gonna suppresss 10 + peope at once

unless ye hack lol

[unique dust]

Maybe if you’re proned, I reckon it would make sense that way

[solid hinge]

or they blob

dont gagglefk in chokepoints, spread out

[prime pine]

Make your mgs actually good then.

[solid hinge]

-Insurgency Sandstorm

[queen canopy]

BFV does this pretty well. There's no mechanical suppression to MGs (besides some visual effects), but its countered by suppressed enemies getting spotted for teammates and the fact that an accurate MG fucking shreds you before you have a chance to be suppressed, making the actual gun the threat, not some tacked on mechanic

[solid hinge]

can we have Very Accurate MG42

without aimbot brrrr

[unique dust]

I’ve used them since 2013

[prime pine]

Lmgs in 5 were actually good cause they did their job

[midnight needle]

Suppression in V needed more substance behind it

The whole point of being suppressed is to keep your head down or mess up your aim

[solid hinge]

ja.

[midnight needle]

It makes no sense as to why I can fire 100 MMG rounds over a sniper that is 30 meters away from me, suppress him but it have no effect on his aim whatsoever

Hit after hit, headshot ping after headshot ping, only to be brought to a disappointing death with a single well aimed shot through 100 rounds of 7.62mm.

[queen canopy]

So then do that by making the actual gun a threat, not by relying on a mechanic that takes control out of that other player's hands. Its not a good mechanic to reward poor accuracy with removal of control from another player

[unique dust]

Exactly, it makes 0 sense

[midnight needle]

What you said makes no sense Gecc.

[solid hinge]

Picture this, American soldier using a mp40 while having welrod holstered using a panzerfaust

[unique dust]

Then maybe make MMGs accurate lol

[midnight needle]

Clearly the MMG IS THE THREAT!

Ok let me throw this at you

Have you ever shot the MG42 in BF V?

[queen canopy]

For example, suppression wasnt the threat here. The gun was.

[midnight needle]

Thing kicks dont it?

[queen canopy]

So to answer your question, Yes. Yes I have.

[unique dust]

Lmao if you think MMGs are a threat over 20 meters in BF5 you’re kidding yourself

[prime pine]

Causethey are a threat

[solid hinge]

hol up, did you just hip fire a mg42

[midnight needle]

In response to what he said about making the weapon the threat. Clearly they weapon is a threat.

[solid hinge]

how the frick

[queen canopy]

Yup

[solid hinge]

impossible..

[unique dust]

When was that video taken?

[midnight needle]

You got lucky and snuck up on a bunch of players that had their backs turned to you

[solid hinge]

Germans in ww2 after discovering hip-firing mg42 is better than mp40s

[midnight needle]

Congrats. 👏🏻

Has 0 relevancy with this case

[solid hinge]

nice kills though

[midnight needle]

Unless you’re saying the point of the MMG is to sneak up behind players and dakka

[solid hinge]

dakka dakka behind enemy lines

[queen canopy]

I mean, I used the gun within its intended range, and it excelled

[midnight needle]

^

[solid hinge]

excelled its excel stats

[lean inlet]

Also magically appearing enemies yay

[unique dust]

Intended range? Nah lol

[midnight needle]

Ok. That’s one perspective

Let’s try another

[solid hinge]

magical squad spawns

[midnight needle]

You got lucky that 6 enemies had their backs turned towards you

[solid hinge]

indeed.

[queen canopy]

The MG-42 in BFV is very much designed to be used at closer ranges. If you want longer range stuff, try guns like the M1919A6, which I've found excels at long range, even against those pesky snipers we seem to love to plink at

[midnight needle]

Again

Missing the point, which to remind everyone, is this: Suppression in BF V sucks.

[solid hinge]

sniping with mg or sniping with sr

[unique dust]

M1919 is hardly viable at range, despite the fact it’s the longest range MMG

[queen canopy]

Which, might I add, lack of suppression really emphasizes using guns within their intended roles without removing control from the player.

[midnight needle]

It’s a great spotter mechanic tho

[queen canopy]

Then I guess we're not using the same gun, I've done just fine with it

[unique dust]

The role is literally suppression

[solid hinge]

perhaps difference in usage

[midnight needle]

Removing control? Do you know what suppression is?

[solid hinge]

and technics

[queen canopy]

Ok, but if you're sitting at 300m trying to engage a sniper, that sniper should absolutely win that engagement!

[midnight needle]

That’s an unlikely scenario

300 meters

Close to a thousand feet

[queen canopy]

Hyperbole, but you get my point

[solid hinge]

not if the sniper is not sniping you xD

[unique dust]

You can’t even see a sniper 300 meters away with iron sights lol

[midnight needle]

Do you know what suppression is?

[prime pine]

If you can't win without fucking other people's aim up you're just bad

[queen canopy]

Yes, its meant to mimic the psychological effect of bullets passing nearby by causing a penalty to accuracy

[midnight needle]

It’s a point about suppression. The actual mechanic that is supposed to be used to keep someone’s head down and throw OFF their aim

[queen canopy]

I'm well aware, I'm just saying its poorly implemented and ultimately leads to frustration

[unique dust]

Or maybe the guns are badly designed

[midnight needle]

That’s suppression

[solid hinge]

suppressive fire is "fire that degrades the performance of an enemy force below the level needed to fulfill its mission"

[midnight needle]

Not “ooooh lemme fire a thousand rounds just to bloody spot people”

[prime pine]

A sniper should counter an mg gunner

[midnight needle]

Not to get too heated

[solid hinge]

this is true, suppression shouldnt spot peeps

[midnight needle]

It’s just a pain in the ass mechanic 🤦‍♂️

[unique dust]

Yeah, by running away and finding another spot to snipe them from

[solid hinge]

sniper counters all unless.... Tank go brrr

[queen canopy]

But my point is, we aren't dealing with real life here. In games meant to be more realistic, like I:S or HLL, it absolutely makes sense. For a game as aracadey as Battlefield, though, its a step too far and just leads to frustration.

[midnight needle]

No one is saying anything about real life

The term suppression is just that

[solid hinge]

how bout both though :3

[lean inlet]

My dear child realism is always better

[unique dust]

Not by literally scoping in, aiming and headshotting the source of hundreds of bullets being unloaded around them

[midnight needle]

It isn’t a play on words

It isn’t something that means another thing

It is SUPPRESSION

[prime pine]

Oops I crashed

Oh well.

[midnight needle]

Well no no. Don’t do that ;-;

[solid hinge]

have a sal vulcano, way

[prime pine]

Im flying so lol

[midnight needle]

Oh you’re in game?

[prime pine]

But yeah. You shouldn't be able to fuck other people's aim over

Just spot them, that's that's you need

[queen canopy]

BFV stepped away from that sort of control removal that sharp accuracy penalties create, and in doing so, found a much better method of keeping weapons within their intended ranges, as well as just generally rewarding accuracy

[prime pine]

Plus tunnel vision so they're more prone to being flanked. It's easy

[midnight needle]

Then what the hell is the point of saying it’s suppression?

[unique dust]

You should if your guns do less damage than literal SMGs, plus are hip fire only and have abysmal spread

[prime pine]

Mgs do more damage over range than a submachine gun

[unique dust]

They don’t, I just compared them now

[prime pine]

I can easily use an m1922 beyond 20m, anyone with simple recoil control can.

[unique dust]

20m? Are you shooting someone in your backyard?

[prime pine]

Do you just want to be rewarded because you can't aim?

Little participation trophy?

[solid hinge]

spot assist xD

or assist counts as kill xD

[midnight needle]

Way it isn’t about not being able to aim. If those bullets came out the barrel in a straight line every time, everyone would be a sniper.

[unique dust]

Are you listening? The spread literally prevents you from hitting your shots despite controlling the recoil

[prime pine]

There's barely any spread in 5

[midnight needle]

...

Wat

[queen canopy]

I've found that suppression-tied spotting creates a snowball effect, actually. I shoot at person, they get spotted. Teammates notice spot, begin shooting as well, person is effectively suppressed by, yknow, actual bullets being sent their way, not by RNG accuracy penalties. If that person stands there and keeps plinking away because of no penalty and gets subsequently shredded, thats their own fault.

[solid hinge]

most things can be a sniper rifle if ye try hard enough xD

[prime pine]

It exists but there isn't much of it

[unique dust]

Yeah well you brought up shooting 20m away from you so I wouldn’t expect you to encounter any

[queen canopy]

BFV does almost exactly this, and yet that's not the case.

[midnight needle]

You’re basing that on “if’s”

[prime pine]

You brought up 20m earlier

[queen canopy]

I'm basing that on in-game experience

[lean inlet]

I love it how bf1 insta kills for no reason

[solid hinge]

how so.

[unique dust]

I said that’s the only range they are actually viable at, you literally proved my point

[midnight needle]

30*

[lean inlet]

Well I was using a flak gun

[prime pine]

Theyre viable beyond that

[queen canopy]

because I've found that when people stand there and keep plinking, like I hypotheticized(?), they do in fact get shredded.

[solid hinge]

ja.

[lean inlet]

And then the game blows me up for no reason

Sorry field gun

My bad

[solid hinge]

you got bombed

[unique dust]

Not very viable at all thanks to the spread

[lean inlet]

Anyways, bf1 needs a patch

[prime pine]

Barely any spread

[solid hinge]

or tank spot ye

[midnight needle]

A singular in game experience that does not happen every single time because there are hundreds upon THOUSANDS of factors within a single game, with random teammates and a sprawling battlefield

[lean inlet]

Cant be bombed if there are no planes

[unique dust]

Sure

[lean inlet]

Its the last mission of the game

[midnight needle]

Shoot the MG42 and tell me there is barely any spread lol

[queen canopy]

Except its not a singular experience, its something I've personally seen time and time again over thousands of hours of gameplay

[prime pine]

There's recoil but there's barely spread there

[queen canopy]

I will, actually! There's very little spread. What the MG-42 does have, though, is high kick, which makes that very little spread very difficult to actually control.

My bullets are going where I'm actually aiming, it just so happens that where I'm aiming bounces under the weight of sustained fire.

Behaving more like an actual firearm

[solid hinge]

gecc

[queen canopy]

alicia

[solid hinge]

imagine one of those juggernauts in bf1 but armed with mg42

[queen canopy]

gib

now

want

[midnight needle]

That would cause rage

[queen canopy]

brr

[unique dust]

What do you think MMGs are meant to be used for? I’m curious

[solid hinge]

indeedz

cursed gun series, BAR with DP-28 pan

[midnight needle]

I’ll agree with that. Recant statement about spread.

[midnight needle]

BAR with shoehorn mag

[prime pine]

Mmgs are meant to be anchors

[queen canopy]

All this talk about MMGs and suppression. My guy, if someone's getting shot at by an MMG and they aren't getting down when those bullets go past because "theres no suppression", thats either their own fault for not using common sense and getting out of the way, or the gunner's fault for poor accuracy if the guy gets the kill off.

[prime pine]

Theyre for people that want to trade mobility for power and accuracy

[solid hinge]

where lmg

[lean inlet]

Im just mad we dont have a whippet stock for the model 5

[queen canopy]

It ultimately keeps control in each players' hands, which, in my eyes, is much better.

[unique dust]

“Power and Accuracy” haha

[midnight needle]

No it’s bullshit because people realized in battlefield 1 what suppression is :/

[queen canopy]

Bipodded MMGs are fairly accurate most of the time

[lean inlet]

EVERYONE I HAVE JUST FINISHED BF1

LETS GOOO

[midnight needle]

....

[queen canopy]

Because they went too far with it

Hence my original clip

[midnight needle]

Your clip was of you SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE BACK

[prime pine]

An lmg is meant to be a more snipey assault rifle / an mg with more mobility.

[lean inlet]

Hope there would be more expansion packs soon

[queen canopy]

No the BF1 clip

I shall repost

[lean inlet]

We need more dlc war stories

[prime pine]

Hence why I love the bren, fg42 or bar, cause they do the job I want.

[queen canopy]

This was the clip that originally started the discussion

[solid hinge]

FG42 in bf 1 would shred

[prime pine]

It would be glorious

But obviously 1942 hadn't passed

[lean inlet]

It would be an anarchronistic

[midnight needle]

You were shooting the sandbags...

[lean inlet]

A better idea would be the MG15na

[prime pine]

He was shooting at the guy

[noble hound]

DICE get rid of specialists yet?

[lean inlet]

My personalpick for first medium machine gun

[unique dust]

Hope not, why get rid of the extra content when we can remove them in portal if we wanted

[queen canopy]

I very definitely wasn't. You can see the other guy hit the sandbags, and theres a big puff of sand. None of that was happening on my screen.

[midnight needle]

Really? Then why was the sandbag being hit when the guy stopped shooting and no one else was shooting?

[noble hound]

Dude just go play COD

[prime pine]

Suppression

[lean inlet]

I hate specialists

Normal factions would be better

[queen canopy]

What a non-solution lmao

[unique dust]

“Erm anyone that disagrees with my opinion is a cod fan, no REAL Battlefield fan likes them erm”

[noble hound]

Specialists add literally nothing

[midnight needle]

Guys there’s portal ffs

[queen canopy]

"Just go play x game that hyperbolizes thing I don't like"

[noble hound]

Yes

[unique dust]

I’d argue classes add less

We have portal either way

[noble hound]

Classes dont add anything, they were standard

[queen canopy]

Por 👏tal👏

[unique dust]

Portal

[midnight needle]

God help this discord if portal isn’t what people are fantasizing...

[lean inlet]

Portal doesnt have a coherent plot or story

[noble hound]

@unique dust Im not paying for a Battlefield game to play battlefield in a secondary mode

[unique dust]

Neither do classes?

[unique dust]

It’s a main mode, it’s marketed as such

[lean inlet]

Portal is amazing but It is no stand for a proper operation mode like story

[noble hound]

If it was a main mode we wouldve played it

[queen canopy]

Alright, then don't complain about something if you refuse to use the solution to your problem.

[lean inlet]

Its meant to be something different

[unique dust]

Good to hear you’ll be playing it then

[queen canopy]

I need to go the fuck to sleep, I'm losing my cool lol

[noble hound]

@queen canopy the solution is not having this problem in the first place

[lean inlet]

Otherwise why not name It BF2042:P

[unique dust]

Laters man

[queen canopy]

God forbid games try something new I guess

If its not literally BF4, its heresy

[midnight needle]

Then ya might as well not play the game or talk about it.

[lean inlet]

BFP should not be regarded as the main BF2042 mode

[noble hound]

@queen canopy ya take away everything that made the game unique

[lean inlet]

Yay for censorship

[unique dust]

They literally added new changes to appeal to new players, then made a mode specifically to appeal to the older players and you still complain

[midnight needle]

Best way to live

[queen canopy]

You know what? How about this, I'll go play CoD and you'll go play BF4! Should be a win-win, right?

[royal forge]

its literally one of the main modes dud 😴

[noble hound]

@queen canopy no, I will play Halo

[lean inlet]

No it aiant

[unique dust]

Well that’s DICE is doing, which I’m fine with tbh

[midnight needle]

The game or the franchise? Cause the game didn’t launch yet....

[lean inlet]

Then they are stupid

BF2042 will die as a result

[noble hound]

Franchise and game

[midnight needle]

Right but

[lean inlet]

Unless they put in a war story with it

[midnight needle]

Game didn’t launch yet

So how’re you making that assumption?

[unique dust]

It really won’t

[tribal cairn]

It's a Battlefield game. People will still fucking buy it.

[midnight needle]

Two days of a half baked beta?

[lean inlet]

You can see red flags man

[noble hound]

Not me lol. Also it sucks on last gen anyway

[unique dust]

EXACTLY

[queen canopy]

But we get everything both of us want! I get the specialists that I apparently want so badly, and you get your classes! I'll just tell you to go play another game if you want it so badly, right? So go on! Go play BF4! And go fuck yourself, while you're at it! Merry Christmas...holy shit! Where's the tylenol?

[midnight needle]

Dude I like the direction :/

[unique dust]

The greens outnumber the reds

[lean inlet]

Maybe or maybe not

[midnight needle]

Alright you calm down.

[lean inlet]

The reds outnumber the greens by a bit

[midnight needle]

Have some vodka

:3

[lean inlet]

At least Its not as bad as B4B

[noble hound]

@queen canopy what? What the fuck are you talking about? Are you schizo?

[queen canopy]

I need to fucking sleep

[unique dust]

Definitely not, if they did then it would be obvious

[midnight needle]

Ay. Don’t be rude

[noble hound]

Ya you do schizo

[lean inlet]

Again your opinion

[noble hound]

Really?

[unique dust]

I could say the same for everything you said

[lean inlet]

Now calm the fuck down and spam #battlefield-2042 instead

[midnight needle]

You heard me

[uneven hollow]

Bfee being cringe eh

[noble hound]

But I dont understand it

[queen canopy]

Literally resorts to insults. Great.

[lean inlet]

Uno reversal card

[midnight needle]

Not my problem

[unique dust]

Why don’t you? You seem to be the one mad here lol

[queen canopy]

good old ad hominem

[midnight needle]

Don’t be throwin out shit like “schizo”

[noble hound]

Okay, be incoherent then

[lean inlet]

You are the one mad here

[tribal cairn]

All of you calm the fuck down. If you want to throw hands, take it to DMs

[noble hound]

Why

[tribal cairn]

This chat ain't the place for it

[queen canopy]

I'm just pointing out how flawed your own line of thinking is, my guy

[lean inlet]

You flooded this sub server to spam 2042 content

[unique dust]

Ok

[lean inlet]

Go spam somewhere else

[midnight needle]

If I have to explain to you why you shouldn’t throw out derogatory and ignorant terms, then there is no point in me even trying.

[noble hound]

So he can tell me to go fuck myself but I cant say schizo. Get over it dude

[lean inlet]

Agreed

[prime pine]

Knock it off

[queen canopy]

But I guess since that doesn't align with your personal opinions, that makes me....schizophrenic? Ok. That's fine!

[noble hound]

I agree

[midnight needle]

🤦‍♂️

See. When 2042 drops I have a list of usernames I’m looking to snipe with a .44

[noble hound]

Damn cool story

Youre a larper too

Lol

[midnight needle]

https://tenor.com/view/miahsgifs-head-turn-spongebob-gif-19234132

[noble hound]

I don't get your reaction gif. Please explain it, cite your sources in MLA format.

[lean inlet]

Cool beans

[midnight needle]

https://tenor.com/view/back-flip-hand-stand-balancing-stunt-upside-down-gif-14727418

[solid hinge]

should you use mg42 for close range ?

[midnight needle]

Uh.. I would? 😂

[tribal cairn]

Close to medium, don't rely on longer ranges

If you do, go for bursts

[queen canopy]

Close to medium is the MG-42's ideal range in-game

[solid hinge]

100-200 rnd smg

[midnight needle]

Then again Id prefer to use the M1922

[queen canopy]

M1922 does fucking slap

[midnight needle]

It was the M1919 before the M1919

Still is really

[queen canopy]

the M1922 is the demon lovechild of the M1919 and the MG-42

[tribal cairn]

I use the MG42 over it just for the sound of it blasting lead down range

[queen canopy]

Ok I need to fucking sleep

[midnight needle]

Wouldn’t that just be the MG34

[noble hound]

@queen canopy thanks for telling us for the 5th time

[tribal cairn]

It's a MG42. No matter how you look at it, it's awesome.

And you, mind cutting the shit? Mod already came in here to tell you guys to stop bashing eachother

[midnight needle]

What if I put it in a dress and put lipstick on the muzzle?

[tribal cairn]

I'd kiss that gun.

[midnight needle]

XD

God damn it doc..

[noble hound]

Why are they called specialists yet can carry any type of gadget and any weapon.

[midnight needle]

Dunno. Try #battlefield-2042

[noble hound]

Dead channel

[unique dust]

Here we go again

[jaunty sand]

coz of the mf special gadget they've got that's exclusive to them

[midnight needle]

No no. Let him

[noble hound]

@jaunty sand so they are specialists because one can fire a gun, pilot a drone, and hold a shield?

[jaunty sand]

yes

[noble hound]

Yikes

[midnight needle]

Geccccccc

Go bed.

You go bed

[queen canopy]

Glad to see you’re still upset over some pixels on a screen, goodnight now

[midnight needle]

XD

[solid hinge]

need a hug ?

[queen canopy]

[noble hound]

@queen canopy wow pixels on a screen argument. Glad we now cant criticize anything because its all just 1s and 0s?

[jaunty sand]

think of medieval times, archers were specialised to use range, spearmen were specialised in using a spear and shield, etc

[noble hound]

Right?

[midnight needle]

Add me if you want. 😂😂😂

[solid hinge]

versatile Rifleman

[noble hound]

Justs 1s and 0s who cares. My argument in total shambles

[solid hinge]

From medic to sniper

[noble hound]

Next thing will be wojak

[solid hinge]

Gecc go sleep lmaooo

[queen canopy]

I’m saying just fucking drop it, dude. It is just zeros and ones, and you’re going out of your way to snipe at me on unrelated subjects.

[midnight needle]

Ya know. If we just cut off his food supply, attention, he’ll just go away or do something stupid that gets him in trouble.

So let’s just do that

[noble hound]

If its just 0s and 1s why do you care so much about a game?

[solid hinge]

@midnight needle wanna do the Suppression thing on this line ?

[jaunty sand]

not every US marine knows how to run an M1A2 Abrams, and not every Tank driver knows how to use a shoulder mounted anti tank gun

[solid hinge]

xD

[midnight needle]

I’m going to slap you with an MG42

😂😂

[queen canopy]

And subject change. Got it.

[lean inlet]

Also if you wanna roleplay as a 1960s-1970s german soldier, It also doubles as a mg3

[solid hinge]

i prefer you slap me with mg34 mg42 and mg3

[unique dust]

I wouldn’t really talk, you started getting cranky when I said specialists were alright

[noble hound]

I thought you were tired

[noble hound]

I never said it was just 1s and 0s, he did

[lean inlet]

The closest you can make would be the anti terror squad that was active in Munich 1972

[midnight needle]

Ooof. You in it for the long haul then lol

[unique dust]

Good for you?

[solid hinge]

need the mg34 42 and 3 shoot at same time for supreme suppression

[queen canopy]

Oh I am, I’m very rapidly realizing this is not worth my time. Melatonin has been taken, and sleep will be upon me soon.

[noble hound]

Then what is your point

[unique dust]

Try reading it again

[solid hinge]

Calmly approach with mg42 from behind

[jaunty sand]

melatonin only works of you actually make an effort to sleep though

[midnight needle]

@queen canopy Dude. He’s just gonna keep baiting and beating. Just stop responding and ignore him. It isn’t worth the mental strain to keep going.

[solid hinge]

go sleep , and sorry for ping xD

[midnight needle]

Hahahahaha

[noble hound]

"I wouldn’t really talk, you started getting cranky when I said specialists were alright"

What did I miss?

[queen canopy]

Which I will be doing once I’m done taking a piss, alright? I’m getting there folks

[unique dust]

…

[queen canopy]

What am I gonna do for the next 30 seconds, read the damn soap bottle?

[solid hinge]

live stream brrr

[queen canopy]

Actually that might be a better use of my time

[solid hinge]

drop the soap

[midnight needle]

Yes! Hell count how many letters there are!

[noble hound]

?

[jaunty sand]

yes

[solid hinge]

medic that kills people , warcrime xD

[midnight needle]

How? ;-;

[solid hinge]

bf medic is different xD

[midnight needle]

A medic is still a combatant

Oh

Wait

HOW?!

[noble hound]

Is there a medic in 2042?

[queen canopy]

Literally falck

[jaunty sand]

as long as a medic is brandishing a weapon, you can shoot them

[queen canopy]

Ok I sleep now

[noble hound]

But anyone can use medpacks

[queen canopy]

[solid hinge]

cant really explain it, its like uhhh Red Cross medic ?

[unique dust]

Laters

[solid hinge]

not le combat medics

[jaunty sand]

of course, the Taliban don't care about what's a warcrime and what's not so, whatever. xD

[midnight needle]

No one cares. Seriously stop fucking baiting. It is annoying as hell. We are trying to move OFF of the topic but you keep just trying to drag us in. Go IN to the 2042 chat and do your soapbox review there.

[queen canopy]

Ye, but falck has the stim pistol as well

Her whole character is being a medic

[jaunty sand]

anyone can revive squadmates, like bf5

[midnight needle]

Hers and the new guy

[queen canopy]

Ok im gonna just fucking close discord im done gn yall

[lean inlet]

Yeah multiplayer bloody sucks

[noble hound]

Perhaps stop sperging about this nonexistent "bait" and either respond or ignore me. You dont have to read my posts.

[midnight needle]

Shut the fuck up

[lean inlet]

Story focused battlefield now dice

[midnight needle]

Please

[noble hound]

No

I wont

[jaunty sand]

wait can Falk revive anybody? squadmate or not?

[lean inlet]

No multiplayer please

[midnight needle]

Ye

[jaunty sand]

interesting, that makes her the medic than

[midnight needle]

That’s why she’s classified as the medic

Aye

[noble hound]

You are literally causing these problems by claiming its "bait" and writing essays on how you're emotionally troubled

[jaunty sand]

🤝

[lean inlet]

Exactly

[midnight needle]

🤝

[noble hound]

Just another day in BFD

[crimson quest]

I got platinum today

[unique dust]

Nice work

[midnight needle]

Ay congrats mate

[jaunty sand]

🎖️

[lean inlet]

So yeah lets talk about story onlt battlefield

[noble hound]

What

[crimson quest]

After struggling to get death from above trophy

[noble hound]

Thats bugged

Ive been at 20% forever

[midnight needle]

Which one was that again? AA mounts destroyed while in a plane yeah?

[crimson quest]

Worked fine for me @noble hound

[crimson quest]

Yeah

[noble hound]

Then how are you struggling to get it if you got it

[midnight needle]

Gotta get airborne lol

[lean inlet]

The better battlefield

No multiplayer or minmal multiplayer

[noble hound]

Wtf r u saying

[lean inlet]

Large singleplayer campaign

[noble hound]

There is no campaign

[unique dust]

Why don’t you like multiplayer?

[ivory grotto]

i disabled many planes with lmg but couldn't truly destroy 😔
i want the light weight parabellum

[lean inlet]

Becauas mp sucks

[noble hound]

Use Browning

[lean inlet]

Seems like Its going to be a bad game

[noble hound]

Ok

Not because of no campaign tho, BF has had bad campaigns recently

[lean inlet]

No, every campaign was a banger

[ivory grotto]

bf1* because only the parabellum is there

[noble hound]

Where?

[lean inlet]

I rather have future titles cut out most of multiplayer

And focus on story

[noble hound]

Not happening

[lean inlet]

Operations, conquest thats it

[unique dust]

But battlefield is known for its multiplayer

[lean inlet]

Then dice is stupid

[lean inlet]

Modern battlefield is known for the story

[midnight needle]

Use Burton LMG

[noble hound]

The MP has story

[lean inlet]

Thats like saying people play cod for multiplayer

They dont

[midnight needle]

Use the incendiary rounds

[unique dust]

They aren’t lol

[lean inlet]

They are

[unique dust]

How

[noble hound]

BF campaigns are garbage. DICE cant make good AI

[ivory grotto]

idk
it has low ammo i can't guarantee

[crimson quest]

Its hard to control plane + i barely find anyone using AA and there are tanks, planes, etc. that are trying to kill me

[noble hound]

DICE AI are terrible

[lean inlet]

Because story mode is always better

[midnight needle]

Trust me. That’s how I got it lol. Use the incendiary rounds.

[prime pine]

Anchoring with a tank is incredible.

[tribal cairn]

Doesn't mean they can't make a decent campaign

[unique dust]

Eh I’d take it over nothing

[noble hound]

Not with DICE AI

[unique dust]

Not always

[midnight needle]

Anchoring?

[lean inlet]

Look at bf1 and bfv

[crimson quest]

[lean inlet]

And tell me they cabt make a story

[prime pine]

Getting your tank into an area and watching over

[noble hound]

I mean its free kills in MP

[prime pine]

Allowing your team to push

[midnight needle]

Ah

[unique dust]

Look at BF1 multiplayer, just as great

[noble hound]

How are they gonna balance AI kills in MP for ticket loss?

[tribal cairn]

Look at Bad Company.

Pretty decent little campaign

[lean inlet]

Nah, the stories are better

[midnight needle]

BF 4 had a good campaign

[unique dust]

Well that’s your opinion, but it’s objective that battlefield is popular due to their multiplayer modes

[lean inlet]

No thats subjective

[lean inlet]

Agreed

[unique dust]

Haha

[noble hound]

DICE cant make good campaigns anymore

[lean inlet]

Disagree

[tribal cairn]

I'm sure they can, you just assume they cant

[noble hound]

I mean, have you seen the AI? @lean inlet

[tribal cairn]

Just because you dont ride a bike anymore doesn't mean you can't remember how to ride one

Stop talking about the AI. A story isn't good because the AI are

[noble hound]

Id love for them to change my mind but that wont happen since they dont care for them anymore

[midnight needle]

They’re pushing their assets on to Multiplayer and live service. I think it’s a good move

[noble hound]

AI is a part of the campaign experience bruh

Literally campaign gameplay > story

[midnight needle]

People don’t play battlefield for the campaigns they play them, for the memorable multiplayer matches

[tribal cairn]

So are the characters and the narrative. Conflict and setting.

Each of these are elements of a story

[noble hound]

Yes but not to the same degree

[tribal cairn]

You are simply referring to Artificial Intelligence, the ability to think creatively in a computer

[noble hound]

A campaign is good if both gameplay and story is good. Gameplay is bad and story is eh most of the time with dice

[tribal cairn]

Again. Bad Company.

[noble hound]

Recently dude

[lean inlet]

Its decent

[tribal cairn]

Previous point. Just because you don't ride a bike anymore doesn't mean you can't remember how to.

They did it before, can do it again

[noble hound]

Idk if its because I play a lot of Halo, but the AI in DICE campaigns are just bad and not fun to fight. It takes the replayability down a lot, even if the story is good

[noble hound]

They dont even want to try tho

[tribal cairn]

Do you sit in at executive meetings listening to each individual board member state their opinion on how a story should go?

[noble hound]

What story? There is no campaign

[midnight needle]

🥥

[tribal cairn]

Yet here you are arguing about one

[noble hound]

Uh, yes, the past ones

[tribal cairn]

So does that invalidate me speaking on future ones?

[noble hound]

What future ones?

Do we know there will be another BF game?

[tribal cairn]

No, but are you taking your assumptions as fact? You shouldn't.

Let the future be the future, don't try and assume anything

[noble hound]

Im not assuming based on nothing, Im assuming based on the reality at hand

There is no campaign, therefore, it is rational to assume campaign could be gone from the franchise.

DICE clearly thinks mp is the only part that matters

And may now integrate story into mp

[tribal cairn]

And yet could you predict accurately of a future addition to the Bad Company franchise which is mostly known for its Campaign?

You can't,

But the possibility remains the same

[noble hound]

Bad Company 3 will be the next game

[tribal cairn]

Or it could be 2043

Again, you don't know for certain.

[noble hound]

I do know that i don't buy bf for campaign and neither do most

[tribal cairn]

Most, no, but there will still be that demographic

[unique dust]

I still think the ideal setting for a new battlefield game would be Vietnam, since the last time it was seen was in BC2

[noble hound]

Jungle combat sucks

[tribal cairn]

In your opinion.

And Vietnam wasn't always jungles

[noble hound]

Vietnam isnt varied enough environmentally

[tribal cairn]

There was a lot of urban combat

Vietnam has snowy regions, and mountains. Geographically

[unique dust]

Then we can burn down the jungles, imagine the unique destruction they could explore

[noble hound]

Ok, but Id rather have 2042 where literally every type of environment is possible

[left whale]

[unique dust]

Exactly, Saigon would be amazing

[noble hound]

@left whale youre a mod?

[midnight needle]

Doc. You’re wasting your breath dude :/

[left whale]

I am not a mod?

[midnight needle]

Korea is where it’s at!

[noble hound]

Joined the dark side😔

[midnight needle]

One does not simply be a “mod” 🤏

[tribal cairn]

He just happens to be blue.

[left whale]

Doesn’t matter. I love battlefield (the franchise) and I would like to contribute toward the community. So I became a mod

[midnight needle]

🙂

[tribal cairn]

Korea is not looked at a lot, being the forgotten war

I think it would be good to bring some more attention to it

[midnight needle]

That and the Falklands

[tribal cairn]

Falkland War as well, is lesser known

[noble hound]

How about we do fictional wars so we arent limited by historical accuracy

BFV definitely didnt suffer because of that

[tribal cairn]

Historical fiction makes best of both worlds, but has to be executed properly

[midnight needle]

^

[midnight needle]

In terms of movies we’ll do The Patriot compared to Waterloo