#battlefield-legacy-titles

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teal fractal
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Yeah ofc

grizzled orchid
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Should've gotten the battlepass

vital ibex
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@trail wadi you could be in something like a ship

brisk scaffold
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But seriously though, we need a new MP FPS that's constantly updated and given content for years to come, and not just one year like COD does

vital ibex
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Or a space station

trail wadi
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But then that's just an urban map that looks cool

peak merlin
brisk scaffold
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I mean we have fortnite and so but they're all just battle royales...

queen canopy
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So we're just going to completely write off the massive rework of the map, just because a third of it was originally released before the pacific?

grizzled orchid
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Oh

teal fractal
grizzled orchid
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Yeah I have the premium battlepass

teal fractal
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Weewee old game make new game 😠

grizzled orchid
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Iirc

burnt bronze
trail wadi
queen canopy
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Given the size of 2042...I'd say we're looking at at least 3 years of original content

burnt bronze
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the whole philosophy to map design in the pacific maps is different to that map

peak merlin
vital ibex
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Dice should do to Thier games like Fortnite did to Thier maps with consistent updates and new features

trail wadi
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Fortnite has only one map though (technically)

teal fractal
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Wait when was bf5 released again

vital ibex
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Ik

brisk scaffold
grizzled orchid
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Pretty sure you get attachments when you reach certain kill thresholds

teal fractal
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2019?

trail wadi
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2018

grizzled orchid
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Ofc having the battlepass is helpful

vital ibex
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I don't think it's a good idea to just pump out games and then just move onto another

peak merlin
trail wadi
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CSGO and TF2 Players don't complain
larssmile

queen canopy
# burnt bronze the idea of that map was made before the pacific maps

The Pacific maps themselves were probably originally conceived about the same time as Provence originally was. It was originally smaller and fit Chapter 4 better, so it was released then, earlier. Then came the Pacific, which was much bigger and clearly had some level of completion to it by the time the Chapter 4 trailer released (given the teaser at the end). Then again...lets not either of us pretend like we know the actual development timeline behind the scenes. Holy textwall batman

trail wadi
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3 years between games is fine

teal fractal
vital ibex
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I mean devs need to think outside the box with gunplay map design and features

trail wadi
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Hell, Assassin's Creed used to be an Annual Release game

queen canopy
teal fractal
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Tf2 idk how big the community even is nowadays

trail wadi
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and look at how Assassin's Creed got worse over the years larssmile

teal fractal
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Probably died down a lot compared to the initial hype

queen canopy
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Several people are typing...

trail wadi
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TF2's community has a lot of modded maps and... don't even actually play the game really

vital ibex
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A game should be less static imo

trail wadi
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trade servers aren't playing the game

teal fractal
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I cant keep up with them

vital ibex
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Ac went downhill after syndicate

teal fractal
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I do wish bf had some competitive system

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For like squads and such

burnt bronze
teal fractal
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I saw a i guess like top squads or whatever they were put together into one big bf4 game with commentators and it was really sick to see how all the players worked together

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And how tactical they were and just really liked the team effort

queen canopy
teal fractal
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So maybe competitve could bring that game effort out more although it would probably make bf more toxic than it already is

trail wadi
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Competitive has mostly been a community-made/dealt matter

teal fractal
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Im always amazed on how toxic bf chats are

trail wadi
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I always get messages or hate thrown at me whenever I play any game nowadays

teal fractal
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Like you basically dont lose or win anything its more of a casual shooter in the end

trail wadi
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Even Minecraft I get someone saying something... stupid/offensive at me

tawny saddle
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Does Battlefield have a fandom?

teal fractal
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No yeah every game has its toxicity

trail wadi
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I mean, it has a following

burnt bronze
teal fractal
burnt bronze
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as in conquest 'themed'

trail wadi
teal fractal
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But bf is just surprisingly toxic easily the most toxic game ive played i think

queen canopy
trail wadi
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I'd say CoD has a lot more of a hatred spewing audience

burnt bronze
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can we now please stop arguing about the development styles of those maps

vital ibex
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No one was

teal fractal
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Ah yeah i havent really cared about cod aswell so idk about rhat

teal fractal
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Only played the first 2 games and then left it at that

vital ibex
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Cod pretty dead after warzone

teal fractal
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Loved the first 2

burnt bronze
queen canopy
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I need to go soon anyways

burnt bronze
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we stop now

queen canopy
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Agree to disagree yes

trail wadi
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Every single time I go on CoD, I am 100% going to have homophobic content spewing at me

Or racist stuff because of how deep my voice is

burnt bronze
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agree to disagree

brisk scaffold
crisp oxide
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Battlefield isn't free to play?

crisp oxide
teal fractal
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Hm idk

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I dont think its like put out as much as cs is but maybe thats just me

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Like viewer counts on games and such

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But idk the statistics cant say

robust mango
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I don’t think BF is more popular thank counter strike

crisp oxide
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Look at battlefield YouTube channels

robust mango
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CSGO in 2016 alone had sold 25 million copies

teal fractal
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Yeah i dont think so either

robust mango
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2 years into Csgo’s release it went on par with BF1

teal fractal
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Cs is so old now aswell

robust mango
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Csgo alone has close to a million people playing a day

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Well the series is

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The series is about 4 years older than BF

teal fractal
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Yeah

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I loved the bf 1942 tbh

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It was an amazing game for its time

robust mango
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My favorite one

teal fractal
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Yeah ive always been really impressed by it

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Cool to see that battlefield has mostly stayed on the same line interms of gameplay

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I loved the maps in it aswell

crisp oxide
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Hardline has really good maps

teal fractal
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Ive wanted to try hardline it looks mad interesting

crisp oxide
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Free on gamepass

teal fractal
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I could buy gamepass but i cant be bothered rn since im playing other games at the moment

brisk scaffold
crisp oxide
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Gamepass has so many games

teal fractal
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It does

brisk scaffold
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Can CSGO compete with BF as much as COD? No

crisp oxide
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Dishonored 1 and 2 for example

teal fractal
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Bethesda games came on it aswell so thats pretty cool

crisp oxide
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Yesh

teal fractal
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Is 1942 also on gamepass?

brisk scaffold
crisp oxide
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Shame I already bought Morrowind and oblivion and Skyrim

teal fractal
crisp oxide
brisk scaffold
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And it doesn't compete against COD as well

teal fractal
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By what do you measure popularity

brisk scaffold
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How much its liked and known

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You say CSGO is known, but not as known as BF is

teal fractal
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Surely it has more views since it has a lot of pro player teams playing against eachother with a half a million+ views

robust mango
brisk scaffold
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Yet BF is the only thing spoken about when compared to COD or Halo

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CSGO is also not available everywhere

teal fractal
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I rarely see people talk about bf idk

robust mango
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There’s not a single thing BF has on CS in terms of buzz

teal fractal
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Its availability doesnt matter much

robust mango
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Csgo is one of the largest esports games ever

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It’s probably the largest shooter esport out there

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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The following is absolutely massive

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More players in servers does not mean much though

brisk scaffold
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Not servers, just 64 players or 128 is already a lot

teal fractal
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That doesnt show popularity

robust mango
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Theres beyond thousands of community servers, mod support, extension mods and model modifications for all versions

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It simply isn’t comparable

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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Csgo is much larger than BF

solid hinge
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csgo can run on a potato

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that’s also a big part

robust mango
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Also true

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Popularity- the state or condition of being liked, admired, or supported by many people

solid hinge
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it’s just like how roblox is bigger than cod and battlefield at this point

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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Uhhh on what market?

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Halo is only talked about in the capacity for infinite hype

teal fractal
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The community just outs cs out a lot more than bf is being put out

robust mango
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Nobody is talking about halo 4 and 5 Thats for sure

teal fractal
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The following is just way more massive

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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You think CSGO, a icon of esports and PC gaming is less popular than Battlefield?

teal fractal
robust mango
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I mean we could list personal experiences but that doesn’t talk over sheer active monthly user numbers

solid hinge
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csgo is definitely more popular than battlefield

teal fractal
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I only saw mentions of battlefield when 2042 was announced

solid hinge
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outside of this bubble, I doubt you know a lot of people that know about, or even play battlefield

robust mango
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I rarely hear people talk about battlefield outside of this server

teal fractal
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^

robust mango
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But I can hear people talk about League, CS, Team fortress anywhere

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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lmao

teal fractal
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Do you follow games medias and twitch viewings and such often?

robust mango
brisk scaffold
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Warzone, Fortnite, sure, but definitely not CSGO and people don't bring up CSGO to COD when we talk about competitivity and how much more known is because of how popular COD is

robust mango
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It’s simply not comparable

lone karma
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Gotta love grinding source SDK base 2013

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Best game

robust mango
teal fractal
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Csgo is everywhere

brisk scaffold
# robust mango

These are just Steam numbers though? Do we know how many people are playing BF4?

teal fractal
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Isnt it one of the most streamed games aswell?

solid hinge
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not even 100K I’d bet

robust mango
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BF4 on steam and origin is not even remotely close

brisk scaffold
solid hinge
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I’d be surprised if it’s even 50K

lone karma
teal fractal
lone karma
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Actually not even

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Cs has a million daily

lone karma
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I think it's like 20k to 40k

solid hinge
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less than 100K for sure

brisk scaffold
solid hinge
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I’d be surprised if it’s even 50K

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lmao

lone karma
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Well it's a fair estimate

solid hinge
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battlefield just isn’t that popular

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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How many people did you expect it to have?

brisk scaffold
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I don't know, I don't even know how many people are actually playing

robust mango
lone karma
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on bfstats.tech it shows roughly 12k

robust mango
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Im seriously wondering how this is surprising to you. Counter strike has dominated twitch for shooters for a while now. It’s a very dominant game in the PC space and very accessible. The game simply is just way beyond BF in playerbase

lone karma
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For BF4

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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This tallies all BF4 servers

teal fractal
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Im quitemsurprised that youre surprised lmao

robust mango
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Let’s just say this is only PC just for the sake of argument. Do you think that BF4 is sitting at 380K on console and over it

crisp oxide
robust mango
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Because I do not think that’s genuinely possible

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Its just not put out as much

robust mango
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Okay well here’s the thing

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BF4 is on all these systems

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Cs is on 1

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And yet

teal fractal
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2

robust mango
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The playerbase is still higher

teal fractal
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On xbox 360 toošŸ˜Ž šŸ‘

robust mango
lone karma
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BF4 Peak today 16k
BFV peak today 22k
BF1 peak today 14k
BF3 peak today 1.2k
Hardline peak today 124

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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Please don’t do this

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But yes you’re right

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It’s on 2

robust mango
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But 1 is probably not used

teal fractal
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Haha

robust mango
lone karma
robust mango
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Let me just put it this way

lone karma
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That shit sinking

robust mango
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A few years back

crisp oxide
brisk scaffold
crisp oxide
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Hardline good

queen canopy
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Which is sad tbh, it looks kinda fun. I wish I could try it

robust mango
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They showed CSGO final matches on ESPN and TBS

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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Theres legitimate ESPN coverage of CSGO

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They’ve been around longer than BF, and simply the media actually looks into it

solid hinge
teal fractal
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A game that is put out more and is more trending will catch more eyes than a less put out game

solid hinge
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if you’re on pc

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I’ve been playing it the past week

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it’s been fun

crisp oxide
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You can get on Xbox servers too

lone karma
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Battlefield is also not really Twitch friendly

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LOL CSGO

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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They're like so well known there

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Yeah there are marketing issues with it aswell i think on some countries

robust mango
solid hinge
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it’s way more now

robust mango
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The amount of cash alone

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That CSGO generates

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Is absolutely insane

solid hinge
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I don’t think it was free then

teal fractal
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Damn they gained a lot from making it free huh

robust mango
solid hinge
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was it?

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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No

teal fractal
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Yeah i dont think it was

robust mango
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It became free after this figure

teal fractal
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2019 it became free i believe

solid hinge
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it makes billions now

robust mango
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In 2016 they had already shipped almost double the sales of BF4

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And that’s BF4’s lifetime sales

lone karma
# brisk scaffold How?...

It's not fun to watch, there's no competition really much like CSGO or Valorant has, nobody really wants to be good at battlefield

robust mango
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CSGO is a game that’s made to be fun both ways

solid hinge
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it’s more like a casual game

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battlefield

robust mango
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You can almost even enjoy watching it more than playing it

lone karma
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You play battlefield to have fun

robust mango
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Battlefield it’s just fun playing it

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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You play to fool around

lone karma
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Like I can't imagine someone playing esports on BF

robust mango
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You can want to be good at BF

lone karma
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Unless the mode they make is very suited for it

robust mango
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but you’re not playing for 2 million dollars

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CSGO pros do tho

teal fractal
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Yeah the competitive side washes it out i think

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Bf is more of a casual game

robust mango
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BF is not inherently competitive

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CSGO is

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There’s also like no wrong way to play battlefield

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There is a wrong way to play cs

brisk scaffold
solid hinge
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Any tips to using the mg42?

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Other than camping in a corner

solid hinge
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COD, CSGO, Valorant all do

teal fractal
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Bf just hop in a game and play it isnt as skill based

robust mango
lone karma
# brisk scaffold Why does no one want to be good at BF?

I don't know maybe there's no scene for it, maybe you don't really get rewarded for being good at it, it could be a range of things like when Warzone hit and became so popular everyone was playing it, wanting to be better to secure that win, the scene was huge. Getting a warzone win was a big thing, people joined squads. Nobody really cares about BF in that regard

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Aslong as you somewhat play the objectives it can work out fine and even if one does badly it doesnt affect like the rest of the 63 players

robust mango
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It’s not really a big deal that BF is not as popular as CS

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It really doesn’t mean anything

lone karma
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Can you imagine properly training for a Battlefield game/match it'd just look like a joke

robust mango
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We play it to have fun

solid hinge
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Sometimes

teal fractal
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Yeah it doesnt make battlefield a bad game in anyway lmao

brisk scaffold
solid hinge
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probably not

lone karma
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I mean if they pull off a gamemode it might go big

queen canopy
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Yeah probably not

teal fractal
lone karma
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Who knows

teal fractal
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But i doubt it

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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CS has like a lot of popularity because of the way gaming generally is. It has a following because of how widespread it is

brisk scaffold
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But theres Hazard zone?

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Isn't that to be competitive itself?

queen canopy
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Battlefield has always been a casual franchise, it should stay that way.

teal fractal
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Battlefield hasnt really changed much through out its series

lone karma
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It's hard to say why people care about one game and not about another, I mean take Valorant, it's a clone of CSGO yet it's still pretty popular

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People know about it

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And they play competitively

teal fractal
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I want a ranked game mode just because i think it would be cool to see a large amount of players cooperating in like a very tactical way

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And it would just bring in more teamplay effort and stuff

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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But i dont think its something easy to do anyway

lone karma
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Maybe it's because BF is so huge that each game depends more on wider teamwork which isn't suited for competitive play

teal fractal
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It would probably be hard to make a ranking system off of it

brisk scaffold
dim fulcrum
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no

robust mango
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BF should never be competitive

brisk scaffold
lone karma
robust mango
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If anything it will probably destroy the popularity of the game

dim fulcrum
solid hinge
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First time playing apex legends

robust mango
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BF is not enjoyable to watch

solid hinge
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Wrong chat

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Shit

robust mango
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It’s just fun to play

teal fractal
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Yeah bf is toxic enough on its own rn as a casual game lmao

gilded zenith
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There shouldn't be a competitve mode

lone karma
lone karma
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That'd be cool

robust mango
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But it will never be an esport

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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But the base game should stay same

robust mango
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The mechanics literally would not allow for the game to be an esport

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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For it to become a esports they'd need to create something different and worthy

solid hinge
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csgo is technically on console Think_Eyes

robust mango
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First of all games don’t just have vehicles thrown into an esport in shooters

lone karma
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Yeah but they can remove vehicles

robust mango
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They can

solid hinge
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but yes they get removed

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for comp play

lone karma
robust mango
queen canopy
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The battlefield experience with vehicles and stuff doesn't lend itself well to a competitive environment

robust mango
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But like in battlefield they say vehicles are a staple

solid hinge
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or actually they weren’t before

queen canopy
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Thats why any competitive modes DICE has experimented with have all been small, 5v5 modes

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Not the staple large modes we all know and love

solid hinge
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Warzone is also technically an esport and it’s had vehicles

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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I really like the idea of procedural generation of maps. There's a really small PvP game on Steam where everyday there is a newly generated map and it's a game similar to R6 and after that day the map doesn't come back again. Something like that would be cool I think

teal fractal
robust mango
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And make it so it’s 1 life

solid hinge
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don’t they take loke a few months to make 1 map

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?

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Just call outs and team effort

lone karma
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R6 for example has really good potential for being a eSports game

robust mango
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Basically medics wouldn’t be allowed in competitive battlefield

queen canopy
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BFV's didn't even release.

brisk scaffold
pallid drum
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people used to do community tournaments with clans back in battlefield 3, conquest 12 vs 12 (conquest small) with vehicles , shit was fun and actually worked LUL

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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Rainbow six isn’t right for esports

brisk scaffold
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I mean unless it's because they are only good at large maps, then that sucks...

robust mango
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Well also R6 is boring to watch

pallid drum
robust mango
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Playing it is fun

brisk scaffold
lone karma
# brisk scaffold It is already an esports?

Yeah I know I meant to say like the way you play the game more tactically makes it unique and the game is also semi known and competitive but again like it's hard to say what a game actually needs to have for people to be interested in playing it competitively

robust mango
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The set up is competitive

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But it’s not interesting for people to watch

queen canopy
# brisk scaffold How and why?

Lack of interest, and lack of a proper platform to do it. Why try to do a competitive 5v5 mode when 7 other franchises have already done it better? And why try to do it in a franchise that is the antithesis to small, 5v5 arena shooters?

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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Some R6 matches are unreal boring

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It’s people peaking at a small corner

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Laying under a table

lone karma
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Yeah maybe that's why it's less popular

robust mango
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Yeah the game itself doesn’t have a lot of movement from an entire side

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It’s like hide n seek

lone karma
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It's not really exciting and majority of the tactical advantage comes from making precise little holes and positioning

robust mango
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Exactly

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The set up of R6 is amazing to watch

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Like prepping for a round

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Before people come

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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On console I think people move around more

robust mango
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Is the most exciting part because that’s where all the tactics come out

teal fractal
robust mango
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On console they do

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Because they don’t lean as much

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After playing on console I realized people Lean way less

brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Console is much easier than pc honestly

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The aim assist hits hard

queen canopy
brisk scaffold
teal fractal
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Atleast bf3 and 4

robust mango
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The sad part is that I would like R6 if there was 0 leaning and the whole game was like a sweep shooter

lone karma
teal fractal
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Lmao

lone karma
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I sucked ass at Rainbow 6 so much

teal fractal
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I never saw the appeal for r6

queen canopy
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The mere existence of a competitive mode doesn't guarantee interest in those modes. Chances are it'd be a blip on the radar, then fade into obscurity

brisk scaffold
lone karma
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The skill barrier is insane

teal fractal
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R6 community is quite unforgiving to noobies aswell from what iheard

lone karma
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I really love the games look, UI, guns, satisfying shooting, gadgets, maps but I just hate that I'm so bad at it and how toxic/sweaty the playerbase is

queen canopy
lone karma
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For BF to work competitively it would maybe have to do a mode similar to R6

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Or like something milsim related

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Idk it'd have to be new

queen canopy
main escarp
robust mango
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Im so glad even tho BF has a lean

glass nova
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so

robust mango
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People don’t abuse it

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The whole game isn’t people running at an angle

main escarp
robust mango
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Nah

pallid drum
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battlefield isn't supposed to be tryhard game

robust mango
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True

main escarp
solid hinge
robust mango
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BF4 did have a lean yes

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BFV also had a manual lean

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I think as well as an auto

queen canopy
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BFV manual lean is really nice

robust mango
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Auto lean is nice too

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It’s a great mechanic

queen canopy
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Yeah theres auto lean, but theres also manual lean

robust mango
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Yup

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It’s great

queen canopy
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Its nice to have, and doesn't get spammed like R6

robust mango
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Exactly

main escarp
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I don't use lean much, but it definitely helps

brisk scaffold
robust mango
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It’s not spammed

glass nova
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i need everyone’s opinion what do u think of the anti-tank snipers

brisk scaffold
glass nova
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ok

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what else

queen canopy
# brisk scaffold Not really... just keep big modes, have small modes

Yes, but that mode isn't really Battlefield in the sense of what the franchise stands for. A mode that involves only 10-15 people, closing them in one building is the near antithesis of the series that is known for massive, 64 (or 128) player battles involving vehicles and a vast arsenal, where one building can be just about leveled entirely.

main escarp
queen canopy
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Wouldn't ruin the game entirely...but really wouldn't add a whole lot that anyone would really care about

glass nova
proven charm
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i barely use lean in bf4 but when i do people are definetly not prepared for it and i win most of those gunfights

brisk scaffold
obtuse glade
teal fractal
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Yeah lean feels nice on bf

teal fractal
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It also isnt like a easy thing to abuse

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So even if you use lean a lot it still wont be bad

main escarp
teal fractal
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Yes exactly

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It doesnt give like a majory advantage youre still quite killable from there

main escarp
#

Im pretty sure its because it isnt 5v5
Its 32v32
now 64v64

rustic sapphire
#

i cant join game BF4 get message "punkbuster kicked u"

main escarp
#

the hell did you do to punkbuster lol

rustic sapphire
#

did noting, i just installed game

gilded zenith
#

!!punkbuster

ruby trailBOT
rustic sapphire
#

i did't play for more year

main escarp
#

oh

rustic sapphire
#

thaaaanks bro

red forge
#

little meowy

unborn obsidian
#

whats kpm and spm

main escarp
#

i think kpm is kills per minute
not sure about spm

obtuse glade
#

Lol

main escarp
#

oh right

rancid slate
#

BF4 just go offline?

pallid drum
#

did it?

solid hinge
#

soo elites are free now on bfv'

#

lol

#

poor things who bought them

#

Actually?

#

I saw you could get them all with 30,000 coins

trail wadi
#

Another two were handed out for free

solid hinge
#

ye meant those

trail wadi
solid hinge
#

Ohh

solid hinge
#

oh they're legendary

solid hinge
#

Any bf3 player

warm atlas
#

Once upon a time

solid hinge
#

I wish bfv was better
I keep giving it a chance and it keeps sucking lol
I remember kinda liking it back during the first few months

worn iris
#

Is their any platoon in bf1 accepting new members

solid hinge
warm atlas
solid hinge
#

For me 4 isn't nearly as good as it used to be but I'd still take 4 over 5 any day

#

I'd say 4 is still good but v is total dogshit

#

Play Hardline

#

Worst bf by far

#

(joke by the way)

#

I'll just ditch BFV and wait for 2042

warm atlas
#

I really only played 4 because it was the first BF game I played with 64 players. Otherwise, I hated basically everything about it.

frank field
#

man operation gamemode works so much better with 44 ppl

#

heck teh servers run better

solid hinge
#

I did
Hardline was more fun than v imo lol
It at least felt finished and not super jank like v
Still not high on my list of course

#

Before V I did consider hardline the worst

#

Biggest problem is that we're somewhat tired of bfv

frank field
#

come to bf1 boost our server numbers

#

we have gas and fire and smoke and mud

warm atlas
#

I’ve been trying to play it more, cause of the 2042 hype. But I just can’t man. It’s just not fun to me. There’s not a single map I like. There’s a few that are passable, but meh. I’d much rather play V

solid hinge
warm atlas
jade lintel
#

5 is good.

solid hinge
#

I'm not even burnt out on v
I didn't play it for years because of how bad I thought it got
Only recently came back

jade lintel
#

I don't like some elements but at the same time other bits are amazing

frank field
#

bf1 is really fucking good , i hated it at first and then i started loving it

solid hinge
#

How's the cheating situation in bf1? Haven't played it in ages šŸ˜„

frank field
#

same as bfv

#

today i didnt encounter a single cheater

#

yesterday i got 2

#

also dice seems to ban em as i dont see repeat offenders often

solid hinge
#

1 is overly streamlined imo but it at least feels like a solid, complete game
Worlds better than v imo

frank field
#

it seems like they monthly ban or something

jade lintel
#

BF5 made totally unnessecary changes

frank field
#

i really like class balance in bf1

jade lintel
#

Attrition was just bad game design

solid hinge
#

Heard that bf1 is a heaven for cheaters because of the ff only

warm atlas
#

I don’t feel like V made any unnecessary changes outside of toning back destruction. I know people hate attrition, but I think it’s unique. It gives BFV its own feel, it’s distinct.

#

It never really ruined the flow to me in any way

ashen timber
#

Battlefield 5 doesn’t feel like Battlefield to me

#

Feels too slippery

jade lintel
#

5 didn't tone back destruction wdym

solid hinge
frank field
#

basically cheater joins , ruins lobby you leave and find another lobby and thats kinda how it goes in bf1

warm atlas
frank field
#

cheaters are almost always rage hacking and enjoy doing it

ashen timber
jade lintel
solid hinge
#

V just feels really poorly made overall
Feels like DICE got their Guatemalan sweatshop branch to make the game

jade lintel
warm atlas
#

And as for the foliage destruction, you can destroy bushes and small trees, but big trees are invincible. Where as you could destroy all the branches off of them in BF1

ashen timber
#

Now that DICE isn’t split on working on 2 different games hopefully now 2042 would shine

jade lintel
#

Fair point. but think of all the innovations they made

#

Fortifications made destruction come full circle. they made defending WAYYYY better.

ashen timber
#

And if they then all focus on a battlefront 3 and actually made it like a Star Wars version of Battlefield that would be lit

solid hinge
#

Don't expect to much from 2042

warm atlas
#

Shame fortifications probably won’t be coming back.

jade lintel
#

I'm not having expectations for 2042, i just wanna see how it'll be

old sonnet
#

I'm glad it's not was a bit annoying

#

Hide behind a wall

jade lintel
warm atlas
solid hinge
#

BFV trailer looked awesome imo but it turned out like shit lol

ashen timber
#

BFV trailer was shit and ended up being shit

warm atlas
solid hinge
#

Still Imo

jade lintel
solid hinge
#

Yeah V was a laughing stock beginning to end imo
Not that these people matter, but you know its bad when even youtubers that main'd bf couldn't bear to play it anymore

#

I wanna like it so bad but it just continues to disappoint

jade lintel
#

Never felt like they wanted to focus on one thing

dense herald
#

Xbox 360

solid hinge
#

Even tho it's the worst to me, there are still at least a couple things it does or has that I like

#

Lol just hit me 360 came in 05

#

Loooool

jade lintel
#

"Here's a BR! here's a tactical gamemode! here's the pacific! here's some TDM only maps!" MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

solid hinge
#

Many here wasn't even born then hahaha

#

Yeah dice was all over the place with this game

warm atlas
#

I liked and still do like V. But anybody would be blind to not see that it felt like they just threw darts at the wall and hoped stuff stuck.

ashen timber
jade lintel
#

no

ashen timber
#

Died faster than FireStorm

warm atlas
#

Incursions died so fast I couldn’t even try it

jade lintel
ashen timber
#

Was meant to be the ā€œcompetitive 5v5 modeā€ for Battlefield to compete with Rainbow six siege

solid hinge
#

What did they expect? A br mode in bf to survive?

ashen timber
warm atlas
#

Just half-steps. That, and being tone-deaf.

jade lintel
#

I will admit some maps and stuff were amazing

solid hinge
#

Ya know, I'm not into attrition but it doesn't really affect my fun too much
What I have the biggest problems with would be things like the class balance and how bad I think the majority of the 19 maps are

jade lintel
#

Arras was super well balanced and supported a lot of playstyles

ashen timber
#

Only maps I liked were the pacific one and the metro remake

jade lintel
#

Merucry too

warm atlas
#

I like Arras a lot. It’s one of the best maps in the game.

main escarp
ashen timber
#

All vanilla maps were pretty shit

#

IMO

jade lintel
#

But for every positive aspect, there was a big step back.

solid hinge
#

The two maps I like the most are devastation and rotterdam
I think they really failed in the design of big outdoor maps in v, at least for me

ashen timber
jade lintel
#

I like devastation.

warm atlas
#

Only maps I dislike in V are Panzerstorm and Al Sundan

ashen timber
#

Can’t see anyone hiding in the rubble

jade lintel
solid hinge
#

You're right about the visibility for sure
I just like the layout of devastation

jade lintel
#

Don't listen to jackburns, he's a troll.

warm atlas
#

I love Devastation. That map is probably the most WWII feeling map in the game

solid hinge
#

V has bad visibility in general tho

jade lintel
#

Repeat offender troll, he has like 20 alts.

solid hinge
#

Yes it is.

#

Nooooo I'll cure you

jade lintel
#

All the rubble formotions feel very gamey

solid hinge
#

I think when someone has to put their political preference in their bio is a huge red flag

jade lintel
#

Yeah

warm atlas
#

Rotterdam is also a great urban map. Not quite as good as Amiens, but still great fun.

solid hinge
#

Yes you're confused if u want bršŸ˜‚

#

Imagine if the mods actually listened to someone who has already made like 10 alts in this server already. You're barking up the wrong tree. 😐

raven storm
#

anyone want to play some bad company 2 multi pc

main escarp
ashen timber
#

Overdone

raven storm
#

pc

jade lintel
solid hinge
raven storm
#

ok

jade lintel
#

Guys, do i have to say it again? jakeburns is a troll.

#

JUST. IGNORE.

solid hinge
jade lintel
#

Cry about it.

ashen timber
#

He’s got a nice bald head

#

Shiny

solid hinge
#

2042 will only support newer consoles

#

I've legit tried like 5 or so BRs and its all the same
Lots of downtime with occasional action that sometimes ends with you dying
Whole thing feels like a waste of time, even when I win

jade lintel
#

For that tiny brain of his

raven storm
jade lintel
solid hinge
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

jade lintel
#

We do not care

ashen timber
#

JakeBurns looks like the average high school PE teacher

jade lintel
#

Now if you wanna bait, try the CoD server.

#

Nah, i think it's funny.

ashen timber
#

Thick, balding, beard and big ass glasses

jade lintel
#

And zero brains

#

Sure sure

ashen timber
#

Woodwork teacher

#

If not PE

solid hinge
#

Leave the poor guy alone

jade lintel
#

:okayge: it's a bot

raven storm
#

i have a bc2 server up if anyone wants to join pc

jade lintel
ashen timber
#

Lmao

solid hinge
jade lintel
#

Go ahead, report me. discord trust can't unshit your pants.

#

English only

ashen timber
#

Paedo

jade lintel
#

Ok so

digital seal
#

yo chill :)

solid hinge
#

@fathom pebble a bit help here

digital seal
#

dude, he's not so chill out

fathom pebble
#

@solid hinge we are looking into it

ashen timber
#

If it’s outside the server why should admins care?

digital seal
#

if you truly have an issue, DM modmail, if not... drop it

jade lintel
#

ok so show us

ashen timber
#

What’s cp?

jade lintel
#

Proof

ashen timber
#

Say it out loud

jade lintel
#

SAY IT DIPSHIT

ashen timber
#

Why?

solid hinge
#

Omfg

fathom pebble
#

ok stop last warning else we gonna start punish if you dont drop the topic rn

solid hinge
#

Take it in Dm instead

ashen timber
#

Battlefield 1 most annoying guns?

solid hinge
#

Gotta download bf1 again

#

Everybody still hates the hellriegel and smg 08

steel pike
#

ngl jake burns pfp looks like the dude who would get angry at you for taking the last hotdog

raven storm
#

anyone want to play some bad company 2 pc

steel pike
#

I despise playing non hardcore

jade lintel
jade lintel
#

Silence, and play squad.

steel pike
ashen timber
#

I love joining a hardcore server to get ez sniper kills and it takes 2 shots to kill with a sniper

jade lintel
#

Snipers in hardcore are the worst designed weapon in BF history

#

They take zero skill to use and can be spammed to hell

fathom pebble
#

remember BF1 snipping exists Kapp

raven storm
lost knoll
#

Then don’t play hc

jade lintel
fathom pebble
#

most of it Iam fine with it, if you dont hs you can't kill with it

#

but BF1 and sweetspots oh lord

raven storm
jade lintel
steel pike
#

hardcore actually makes the game fun while in non hardcore its spawn die spawn repeat because the same group of player are actively tracking players down while constantly watching the minimap

#

the minimap is a crutch

verbal barn
#

@twin heart hello troll

#

oh did he get kicked

jade lintel
solid hinge
#

Hell yeah

steel pike
jade lintel
#

You milsimps seem to really like not knowing shit about your game

#

Or in general.

steel pike
#

the minimap is a crutch for players not aware of their surroundings

jade lintel
#

Health? nah. enemy positions? no thanks. What fucking proper game to play for a milsim experience? never

#

Just play squad or arma. those games are built for milsim experiences, unlike BF.

steel pike
#

the minimap is baby mode

solid hinge
#

It's one thing to not like minimaps but to call it a crutch is a really bad take

jade lintel
#

yeah

jade lintel
#

You're just shit in gunfights because you need only half the shots to kill.

south radish
#

@jade lintel Is back? WoahThink

steel delta
#

Seeing some users here, I have to ask if you know the fix for the connection issues in BFBC2? Can't find it anymore 😤 something to ad in exe shortcut

main escarp
#

im gonna be honest here, who complains about the minimap?

south radish
jade lintel
jade lintel
steel pike
solid hinge
#

Here's my bad take
I think hardcore mode in general is a crutch since it takes little to no effort to spray someone down even across the map
Also caters to people that don't like to move since no deathcam

jade lintel
steel pike
jade lintel
jade lintel
main escarp
solid hinge
steel pike
#

and I'm not even camping

jade lintel
#

Doubt

main escarp
jade lintel
main escarp
#

i pressed x with you

steel pike
#

I play assault and support almost nonstop with the other only class I really play is the engineer

jade lintel
#

kappa

steel pike
#

I barely play sniper

jade lintel
#

again

steel pike
#

and if I do, its for the spawn beacon for my squad

jade lintel
#

Nah i bet you camp snipe

steel pike
#

if i'm playing recon i'm using the carbine or shotgun and staying on the move

fathom pebble
#

I like sniper, its a fun class

main escarp
steel pike
#

recon with the m4 carbine, that's a good loadout

jade lintel
steel pike
#

it's not even OP

jade lintel
#

1 shot to the chest at all ranges, to compensate for general milsimp lack of skill

solid hinge
#

That's one of the reasons I generally don't play HC, because the games are never balanced for it.

jade lintel
#

Yeah

steel pike
#

if you are having such a tough time killing a sniper then you need help

jade lintel
#

And yet this guy INSISTS on not buying squad or arma

solid hinge
#

Kills never feel satisfying to me in hc
Everything just dies instantly
Screwing around with a pistol is the only thing that helps it but I still can't stand it

main escarp
jade lintel
#

Complete bullshit game design. just play squad or arma and stop annoying us.

steel pike
fathom pebble
#

so extra care is needed means just be careful what you do next before walking foward LUL

jade lintel
fathom pebble
#

that includes snipers

steel delta
jade lintel
#

Explain how 1 shot to the chest snipers are balanced.

steel pike
#

snipers die just as fast as everybody else in Hardcore

jade lintel
#

Give me one fucking reason.

main escarp
steel pike
#

you also have to take into account that the sniper rifles are bolt action thus they take time inbetween shots

#

enough time to kill them

jade lintel
#

Again, CZ75 IS A ONE BANG.

steel pike
#

anyone can use that weapon

long onyx
#

Im having a problem

jade lintel
#

Explain the balancing reasons for that.

long onyx
#

Why wont it let me and my friend play in practice range bf5

solid hinge
#

It's not balanced at all. OHK snipers destroy all balance all in one go. At the same time, if they weren't OHK to the body in HC, they would almost literally be completely unusable. Give and take, I guess.

Again though, HC is never balanced, no matter what game it is. To be honest, I'd argue BF has the "better" "balance" of hardcore since it's not a bunch of dickheads running around at super speed one-tapping with a pistol.

long onyx
#

it kicks me friend if i join practice as leader same other way around

jade lintel
main escarp
jade lintel
#

Now, chips, why can't you just play squad and leave us alone?

steel pike
#

anyone can switch to a cz75 if they have it, so you can do the exact same to the enemy trying to kill you

steel delta
jade lintel
#

I have asked you that question 3 times now. not once have you answered.

steel pike
jade lintel
#

That's like someone making you a 5 star meal just like the stuff you like and you swatting it away like a fucking toddler

fathom pebble
steel pike
jade lintel
#

Well why didn't you like it

steel pike
#

plus squad has all those die hard players that span across multiple servers and baby rages when you make one mistake no matter how large and how tiny

jade lintel
#

EXPLAIN. WHY.

#

Give me some points. in like a list or something.

steel pike
jade lintel
#

Just turn off chat then.

steel pike
jade lintel
#

well how are they bad

steel pike
# jade lintel well how are they bad

getting yelled the N word over not responding immediately
getting kicked constantly because your new
slurs being thrown around because some people can't keep their opinion of another race to themselves

main escarp
#

its br

solid hinge
#

Inb4 battle royale, because you're the same fucking dude.

jade lintel
#

INB4 you get discord banned from your school computer

#

No you don't

#

there is no matchmaking in BF

#

There are servers

steel pike
#

squad has devolved into cod mw2 lobbies, can't go one match without some one screaming a slur

jade lintel
#

Don't care, don't talk to me.

#

Better yet delete discord and go outside and stop pestering us with your alts

#

Where?

south radish
#

Hey let's calm down and be friendly to eachother

jade lintel
#

Lemme guess he's gonna say fuck you

#

Close, ADHD.

south radish
#

Stop it! both of you

jade lintel
#

Sure thing klik

#

He lives in norway mate

south radish
jade lintel
#

Halfway across the world

south radish
#

Also keep on topic please

#

Please do note that this is an international server

jade lintel
#

yes BRADEN keep on topic BRADEN

#

Please do not brag about your stupid freebrums BRADEN

#

I'm canadian IIRC

verbal barn
#

COUGH braden

jade lintel
#

Stop making anything about you

verbal barn
#

whats that? O_O

#

same

#

why did you talk about it then?

jade lintel
verbal barn
#

no I didnt

verbal barn
#

this guy never stops trolling

#

Oh did I? No I didn't.

#

Stop lying Braden.

jade lintel
fathom pebble
#

anyways back to topic, else we gonna start hand punishments or move to #general

verbal barn
solid hinge
#

Not to go off topic but how bored and lonely can one guy be lol

#

Anyway
Battlefield
Hell yeah

verbal barn
#

yes battlefield fun

main escarp
vapid dragon
#

Can anyone help me with assignments on Bf3 pc?

verbal barn
#

omg is that a server booster USER I SEE?

main escarp
#

didn't really see much about Naval Warfare in BF2042

#

But i won't mind if they release it as a DLC

#

as long as its not extremely overpriced

#

cause EA

jade lintel
#

yeah something like naval strike would be cool

steel pike
#

titan mode needs to make a return

queen canopy
#

@prime pine got one

uneven bobcat
#

carrier assault is such a good gamemode

#

sadly cant find any servers for it

trail wadi
#

I hope we get a mode like that for 2042

verbal barn
#

yeah, insane bro.

trail wadi
#

I ain't your bro, buddy.

verbal barn
#

Alright buddy, I see that passive aggressive reply.

verbal barn
trail wadi
#

lol, just fiddlin' with ya a little

verbal barn
#

I'll fiddle you harder.

main escarp
#

ayo

queen canopy
verbal barn
#

SANITATER

verbal barn
queen canopy
#

I know, it was a harder shot tho

#

And I think I was close, just the timing was off

#

I’m pretty sure I had the right trajectory though

queen canopy
icy sluice
#

He sent me an invite to a party shortly after so I asked why

queen canopy
#

Gotta love riding on tanks with AT launchers

uneven bobcat
#

when everyone pushes at the same time its so satisfying

uneven bobcat
icy sluice
#

The amount of kick messages in that chat log brings back memories

lofty marten
#

Being seeing some random bf1 clips and might reinstall it

#

I enjoyed the game mostly. I just didnt know much about ww1

frank field
#

dont have to know much to enjoy it

#

can anyone link me a website where i can see weapon usage numbers for bfv

queen canopy
#

I don't know if those kinds of statistics are tracked

finite gull
#

The puma is absolute chaos

frank field
#

i do recall bf1 having such graphs

queen canopy
#

I know you can find individual stats on how much someone uses weapons, I wouldn't know about overall stats though

#

They very well might be a thing for BFV, I just wouldn't know where to find those stats

dim fulcrum
#

h

queen canopy
#

h

dim fulcrum
#

wait where am i

mild surge
#

I hate Battlefield 1 snipers

dim fulcrum
#

why

mild surge
#

Because i only find guys in the other corner of the map waiting to shoot

dim fulcrum
#

thats kind of a snipers job

mild surge
#

Yeah but

#

Find 7 in one server it's kinda annoying

dim fulcrum
#

it also depends on the map i suppose, what map were you playing?

mild surge
#

Monte Grappa

dim fulcrum
#

kekw.

#

thats why i play back to basics usually, that is if i ever play battlefield 1

#

very balanced gameplay

finite gull
#

M1903 Sniper is bae

dim fulcrum
#

is it now

finite gull
#

Yes

dim fulcrum
#

how so

finite gull
#

Cuz it’s crisp

#

And cuz Ravic

dim fulcrum
#

ravic?

finite gull
#

Lebel is also good

#

You’ve never heard of Ravic?

dim fulcrum
#

youtuber?

finite gull
#

Yes

dim fulcrum
#

nope never.

#

i dont watch bf content, i only play the video game

mild surge
#

I got destroyed by an MG42

#

It was epic

dim fulcrum
#

how

mild surge
#

Like

#

I was whit 4 guys

#

And they got destroyed by the same guy

#

But

#

It's normal if whe think in D-DAY

finite gull
#

Hehe German engineering go brrrrttt

solid hinge
#

I'm so happy I finally unlocked jeep stuff for support

finite gull
#

Nice

mild surge
solid hinge
#

Now I can get revenge on all those tank campers in Golmund

finite gull
#

Honestly Golmud sucks

#

Hainan is much better

solid hinge
#

Golmund for me is every time I equip an AA launcher, theres nothing but tanks

finite gull
solid hinge
#

And every time I equip an AT launcher, nothing but enemy helis and jets

mild surge
#

I love the AA

finite gull
#

Improvise

#

Adapt

mild surge
#

Like

finite gull
#

Overcome

#

Use the rocket launchers as AA launchers

#

Boom

#

Goes the chopper

solid hinge
#

Now that I have Jeep stuff for support, tanks will die

mild surge
#

it is satisfactory to destroy a plane with a AA

finite gull
#

Gotta blast the song

solid hinge
#

And holy shit, the LSAT is a beast in BF4

finite gull
#

RIDIN ROUND TOWN

solid hinge
#

Solid damage, accurate AND no recoil

#

What was I doing only using the M249?

acoustic pendant
#

being a chad

solid hinge
#

The thing is weak as hell and can't even hit enemies with that bipod deployed

dim fulcrum
#

cool factor

solid hinge
#

Never really touched the type 88 though, is it any good?

dim fulcrum
#

decent

#

@solid hinge nice try

solid hinge
finite gull
frank field
dim fulcrum
#

really? what region

frank field
#

eu

dim fulcrum
#

damn what a shame

frank field
#

i played it once last month and damn it was so much

dim fulcrum
#

last time i played bf1 was a couple months ago anyway

frank field
#

but after the reveal trailer of bew bf the numbers dropped

dim fulcrum
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played b2b back then very fun

frank field
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i think ppl are playing bf4

dim fulcrum
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yep

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had a friendly tank encounter yesterday in bf4

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wholesome 100

frank field
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you randomly met a friend?

dim fulcrum
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nah

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ill send you the clip

frank field
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alright

teal fractal
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that is awesome