battlefield-legacy-titles

[tulip idol]

Stupid question if anyone knows, what's the deal with some platoons being verified or not

[jade lintel]

Usually if a platoon is stupid popular then some people try and make fake copies

[tulip idol]

Sure, is there a process to get that verification, like can you ask someone from dice or do they do it whenever they feel it's necessary

[jade lintel]

I dunno

Maybe they ask

So that's why it's mostly youtubers and other stuff like BFEE.

Speaking of which i managed to sneak into a spot in BFEE lmao

[uneven hollow]

[crisp oxide]

Just saw a squad of enemy eods people must be getting ready for robodog

[surreal shuttle]

i remeber when they only showed like 7 maps and i wa slike wtf so little amount but then i wa slike oh wait these are huge maps lmao

[crisp oxide]

Still tho

[jade lintel]

Basically they're like having 15 maps at launch

[devout steeple]

Hey guys battlefield am I right

[surreal shuttle]

yeah

[crisp oxide]

15 is epic

7 is doodoo

[surreal shuttle]

oh but also like i cant waittttt to play breakthrough

128?

[devout steeple]

What are you guys talking about

[surreal shuttle]

thats gonna be goddamn insane

but also the maps have a nice contrast

none of them look very similar

they all pretty unique

[solid hinge]

Battlefield

Frankly, I was expecting 2-3 maps at launch due to their size and all the other things they've been working on, so 7 is a nice surprise.

"Mod Tools would be too hard for the community to understand" - DICE

DICE thinks your all stupid

lmao

Well considering how some people run their shit... I can't say I'm surprised.

[jade lintel]

Same

[solid hinge]

2 or 3 maps for 60 dollars would be heavily criticized

It's already criticized for not having a single-player.

[devout steeple]

does anybody even play the single player in battlefield games?

[solid hinge]

The outrage for that is a lot smaller than you think

People seem to think it's not worth $60-$70 simply because it doesn't have a 6 hour campaign. Really ridiculous bunch of people, honestly.

[jade lintel]

nah nobody does that

[crisp oxide]

The older ones that have good campaigns yeah

[devout steeple]

And anyway they focus more on the multiplayer

[jade lintel]

Campaign is cool, but multiplayer is FAR more important.

[crisp oxide]

Like anything after bf4 campaign is a shit stain

[devout steeple]

The war stories they made were okay imo

[solid hinge]

Considering Halo and CoD both have free alternatives, having BF being priced at 60 dollars with a lack of content would be disastrous for the game

[jade lintel]

Think about it, would you rather have a C-tier campaign that you can beat in an afternoon, or more multiplayer shit that you can mess around with for hours and hours and never get bored of?

[solid hinge]

My metric is that if I get 1 hour of enjoyment for every dollar I spend, then it's worth it.

If I buy a $60 game and the single-player is only 4 fucking hours long with shit else to do and no replayability? Fuck you, Darkness 2.

[crisp oxide]

Both

[tawny saddle]

War stories prepares you for multiplayer

The BFV war stories, however, are shit

[jade lintel]

Nah, that would be too much for the devs.

[crisp oxide]

They've done it before

[solid hinge]

That's just a bad metric then, games should not be rated solely on playtime, that's just stupid, not every game needs to be 60 hours long in order to be extremely good

[surreal shuttle]

bf1 however

[devout steeple]

But can’t you play multiplayer matches with bots?

[surreal shuttle]

much better

but idk if this unpopular opinion

but Hardline had the best singleplayer

[solid hinge]

True, but the metric still holds. The less playtime I get out of something, the less I value it. It's really not that absurd of a metric.

[solid hinge]

Bad Company 2? BF3?

what

[tawny saddle]

Nah the BF1 war stories are great
Namely Friends in high places

[surreal shuttle]

i mean yeahhh

they are up there too

[jade lintel]

nah. Dev time from making the singleplayer could go to multiplayer, giving us more maps, features, and content.

[surreal shuttle]

but i kinda liked Hardline more

[crisp oxide]

Maybe if your into csi miami

[surreal shuttle]

singleplayer

[solid hinge]

It's not absurd, just really illogical

[tawny saddle]

cod campaigns are too dramatic

[surreal shuttle]

everything else i didnt really like

[solid hinge]

hardline had a good campaign imo but the mulitplayer lacked

[surreal shuttle]

it did'

[crisp oxide]

Wtf

[devout steeple]

And they are giving us bots so we can technically play the story of the game since 2042 has a story in the multiplayer

[crisp oxide]

That's like the opposite

How did the multiplayer lack

[jade lintel]

I fucking ragequit under no flag after the stupid sequence where you blow up the entire wehrmacht while singing to some stupid song with your commander sitting on some stupid pole yelling shit at you

[surreal shuttle]

one thing i loved about Hardline tho was the camo custom

[solid hinge]

It's not illogical at all. It doesn't have any bearing on whether or not something is good or bad, this is all about worth and value for money.

[jade lintel]

It honestly was too absurd.

[crisp oxide]

Hardline campaign was literally a cop show

Must unoriginal shit ever

[tawny saddle]

None of the BFV war stories are helpful
Maybe the last tiger, but that’s it

[devout steeple]

More like it is

[solid hinge]

Hours aren't everything, I bought bioshock infinite on release, beat it in under 15 hours, and felt like I got every cent worth and more

[lone karma]

BF4 SiC servers just F'ed

[fervent carbon]

crashed?

[crisp oxide]

Do you know what literally means

[lone karma]

Maybe

[jade lintel]

last tiger is the only good one

[lone karma]

Connection dropped instantly

[surreal shuttle]

the hardline campagin was interesting tho

[fervent carbon]

wym by F'd then

[solid hinge]

I'm glad you liked it, but I'm not entirely sure why my own personal metric has any effect on your enjoyment of games.

[surreal shuttle]

it contents with bf3

[lone karma]

Insane lag

[solid hinge]

honestly i agree with the metric,because if i spend 120$ on battlefield 2042 i know its worth it because im gonna play tf out it

[fervent carbon]

ddos

[solid hinge]

I wasn't correlating your metric with my enjoyment, I was stating the fact that you can enjoy a game regardless of playtime

that's why its illogical

[surreal shuttle]

yeah for 2042 im just getting the 80$ one

[devout steeple]

Wait you bought 2042 120 dollar version?

[surreal shuttle]

120$ way too high

and in the mid edition it has the one year pass

[devout steeple]

I spent 120 for the ultimate edition, should I be ashamed?

[solid hinge]

The more I'm able to get out of a game, the more I enjoy it and the more I feel like I got my money's worth. I...honestly don't understand the problem here.

[devout steeple]

I bought it before the gameplay reveal

[surreal shuttle]

thats bad

[solid hinge]

your god damn right

[lone karma]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

I bought Skyrim like 4 times but I've gotten like 800-1000+ hours out of it. I could buy it again and it'd still be worth it.

[surreal shuttle]

i still havent preordered even tho im super hype

i wanna wait for the ea event

[solid hinge]

worth every penny to me tbh

Put around $1200 into Warframe and got 1300+ hours out of it. The metric is perfectly logical in my own experience.

[devout steeple]

Idk I bought it but feels like it isn’t worth it

[solid hinge]

what the fuck

you put

[lone karma]

How did you sit through warframe for 1300 hours

[devout steeple]

Sure you are getting the chance to play it early but idk

[solid hinge]

1200 dollars

into

warframe

[surreal shuttle]

why

[solid hinge]

what the fuck

LMFAO

[surreal shuttle]

its not even like csgo

its Warframe

[devout steeple]

Explain

[crisp oxide]

That game is amazing I understand that

[solid hinge]

i just love battlefield a little too much

I put 5 dollars into gmod and got 5000 hours out of it

[lone karma]

I tried Warframe after being told it's a Destiny clone and whilst the fighting is cool I think the warframes and their powers are so fucking lame

[crisp oxide]

Cringe it came out light-years before destiny

[solid hinge]

I didn't expect what I spent in a game to become a huge deal. What is going on?

[lone karma]

Destiny better tho

[surreal shuttle]

that shit it crazy tho

1200$?

[solid hinge]

^

1200 dollars on a f2p game

I whale'd the fuck out of Warframe because A, I like the devs, and B, I like the game. I want them to do more with it.

sounds like addiction

[tawny saddle]

I get Warframe and Warface mixed up

[crisp oxide]

You never got past the 3rd planet I bet

[solid hinge]

Oh fuck that. If you ever catch me spending 1200 on Warface, take me out the back and shoot me.

[surreal shuttle]

sounds like my csgo gambling addiction

[lone karma]

I started buying Warframes, trying them out and I got bored

I didn't really like any of them

Powers were laaaaame as fuck

The fighting is cool though

[crisp oxide]

That's subjective idk what you mean by lame

Like super vauge

[tardy radish]

warframe came first lmao

[crisp oxide]

Theres so much variety

To the powers

[devout steeple]

I have mixed feelings about warframe

[lone karma]

Like just trash, not good, doesn't look cool

[devout steeple]

Warframe is cool with the fighting but it seems too grindy

[solid hinge]

nekros is papi

[solid hinge]

its a game that takes griiiiiiiiiindinv

[crisp oxide]

Warframe is super grindy

[tardy radish]

it is

[lone karma]

The fighting is very cool I admit

[solid hinge]

Found a good sniper on bf1. I’ve been using the M1917 Enfield silenced

[tardy radish]

its why most ppl stop playing

[crisp oxide]

The fighting was made lame Imo with the rework

[solid hinge]

Yeah thats def one of the best

[solid hinge]

your name reminds me of my shiba

[tardy radish]

shobe

[solid hinge]

sheeb

The only real grind in Warframe is what you make it to be, honestly. That fat stack I spent on Warframe was literally to just skip all the building timers. I spent a few hundred hours just grinding gear on Hydron.

i miss her lil shibe screm

[solid hinge]

So

you spent

1200 dollaras

dollars*

to skip the game

wow

☑️

[crisp oxide]

I spent it on sick fashion

[solid hinge]

I don't see why it matters. Game is literally free how else are they gunna make their money. It's not like I whale'd a greedy fucking company like EA or something.

The fact that you whale'd at all is bad

lol

[crisp oxide]

They've got money to whale

[solid hinge]

you could have bought hundreds of games for 1200 dollars

Again, how are they supposed to continue running the game if people don't spend money on it?

Bro I have literally hundreds already.

I mean it's your money

but it's still stupid as fuck imo

[devout steeple]

It is stupid

[lone karma]

Truuuu

[crisp oxide]

Ight make the game 60$ problem solved

[solid hinge]

Fuck else am I gunna buy bro?

😐

[lone karma]

Microsoft

[solid hinge]

Oh true I forgot your on console

[lone karma]

Buy microsoft then you can get every game

[devout steeple]

421 games????

Goddamn

[solid hinge]

421 is a lot for xbone

on steam 421 is average

[devout steeple]

I barely have 100 games

[solid hinge]

I know people with 2200+ games. They have whole storage bays (14-25TB) with literally all of them installed so they can play whenever. 😂

[hollow token]

hi
Should i buy BF1 or BF5 ?
Any opinions?

[solid hinge]

addiction

[solid hinge]

BF4

All I got is the expansion card for my Series X because that's all I really need. Don't need more storage than what I got.

[devout steeple]

Buy bf4 with all Addons

[solid hinge]

Especially since I don't play fucking Warzone with their dumbass huge install size.

[hollow token]

but i wanted some historic warfare experience tho

[devout steeple]

Too bad

[hollow token]

why? 😦

[solid hinge]

BF are not good games for that

better off playing hell let loose

[devout steeple]

Because I said so

[solid hinge]

or verdun

[hollow token]

alrighty

[devout steeple]

At this point get enlisted

It’s free

[solid hinge]

Enlisted sucks

[hollow token]

i tried enlisted

it sucks dick

[devout steeple]

Oh

[hollow token]

maybe ill just get the bundle

[lone karma]

How

[hollow token]

its on sale

[fervent carbon]

bf4

[lone karma]

It's computer software, how can it suck dick

[devout steeple]

I tried enlisted and it was aight

[solid hinge]

disk drive

[lone karma]

Weird ass

[crisp oxide]

No dick

[solid hinge]

I mean could my money have gone to something else, like more games as you said? Sure. Obviously. Just keep in mind $60 * 20 games = $1200, and just for the sake of argument let's say I get 60 hours of enjoyment of each of those games (which is frankly a super fucking highball estimate)...

It still doesn't hit my playtime of Warframe. 😂

[crisp oxide]

Not ass

[hollow token]

i like people like you
Being smart ass everywhere
taking things literally all the time

so cool

[solid hinge]

imagine trying to use straight math in order to justify your own emotional enjoyment of a product

what a fucking stupid idea

[lone karma]

Thank you I appreciate you thinking I am cool

It makes me feel cool

[hollow token]

welcome mate

[solid hinge]

Just trying to defend myself is all since you seem to want to attack me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[devout steeple]

At least it ended in a happy ending

[crisp oxide]

[fervent carbon]

arent u 2 trying to compare game time between single and multiplayer games

u cant

[hollow token]

$20.20 for BF 1, 4 and 5

[devout steeple]

Yes

[solid hinge]

I don't do much multi-player in Warframe, honestly, so nah, I was pegging all of it as single-player. If you see me in a squad, it's because the game isn't hard enough and I need those extra people spawning more enemies so I can actually feel like I'm not wasting my time.

[solid hinge]

"Attack you" maybe it's because I find most of your opinions and ideas to suck, doesn't mean I am attacking you lol

[devout steeple]

Wait

[hollow token]

thats not even the og cost of onne game

why so cheap lol
getting player base back for 2042?

[fervent carbon]

yes

[devout steeple]

Guess they are

[fervent carbon]

it works

[solid hinge]

And why does it bother you so much? Everyone says different shit.

[hollow token]

indeed it does

[solid hinge]

It doesn't bother me, I just respond to them when I see them and have time

like any normal person using discord

I use this as a platform to discuss ideas and opinions

like anyone else

[hollow token]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[lone karma]

aka to talk shit

[solid hinge]

Yeah basically

Why do i succ so bad at shooting with a sniper lol

I seem to miss most my shots lol

[devout steeple]

Just get better

[fervent carbon]

[solid hinge]

I don't know, man. If I have wildly different opinions that I know would just disrupt the conversation and add nothing at all to it other than to just talk shit... I don't bother. Time isn't something I like wasting on nonsense.

[fervent carbon]

maybe u need to be using tanks @solid hinge

[crisp oxide]

Seems like succ to me

[lone karma]

Yet your here talking to a dude who criticised you for no reason

[hollow token]

.

[solid hinge]

but yet you wasted thousands of hours and money on a game that has no real monetary or time value

but no I'm the time waster

Okay

It had value to me.

[hollow token]

her money, her choice
No offense

[solid hinge]

I agree with that

Doesn't mean I can't criticize the purchase

[fervent carbon]

wait its a her?

jk to make it more awkward

[solid hinge]

trolled

In core mode does anybody take off hud in bf4 i like the hardcore feel of it

[fervent carbon]

uh

[tight rain]

I just play hardcore

[devout steeple]

There is literally a hardcore mode

[tight rain]

Dont have to do anything fancy then

[solid hinge]

Impossible to find server

[devout steeple]

What are you on?

[fervent carbon]

what region are you

[tight rain]

Man hardcore servers are east enough for me to find

[solid hinge]

No it isnt, half the bf servers are hardcore

Ps4 usa east

[tight rain]

Bf4 that is

[solid hinge]

I dont play in eu or anywhere

To much lag

Usa east only

No hardcore servers

...How are you not finding hardcore servers?

[jade lintel]

PS player
Ew

[devout steeple]

Late at night there are always servers of any kind

[solid hinge]

Just cant lol

[devout steeple]

Maybe use the server browser

[tight rain]

Oh god not another console fight

[jade lintel]

Mate

Seriously

[solid hinge]

On Xbox there's quite a few, wonder why there's not as many on PS for some reason, although I can't think of any reason why there wouldn't be.

[devout steeple]

People are still fighting about consoles?

[solid hinge]

Yes, unfortunately.

[jade lintel]

Not saying the console itself is bad but they players are stinki

Not you you're cool

[tight rain]

Thanks man

[solid hinge]

It's going to happen for as long as other platforms exist lol

[uneven hollow]

[solid hinge]

human nature

[crisp oxide]

Take off the region filter stop being picky

[jade lintel]

but a lot of PS players are either boring or flat out annoying

[devout steeple]

Seems kinda poopy

[solid hinge]

Yeah PlayStation has alot of EU servers but in america it needle in haystack

[jade lintel]

And also don't know shit about teamplay

[solid hinge]

Strange.

[lone karma]

[crisp oxide]

No tropic thunder servers on ps?

Sad

[solid hinge]

Naw i played in asia servers ill never return

[crisp oxide]

That's superstition

[solid hinge]

EU 50/50

[jade lintel]

Sometimes i feel like the only person that's actually trying to play the game correctly while the rest of my team is pissing around in the midrange

[solid hinge]

I played on EU servers once, and pissed off a lot of people because apparently I was lagging around and they were having a hard time killing me. 😂

[devout steeple]

You had an advantage.

[solid hinge]

HAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKSSSS

Lol

The one time garbage ping is an advantage, I guess. XD

Im jk

[crisp oxide]

I see a shit ton of hardcore servers

[solid hinge]

Eu is struggle

[devout steeple]

I’m thinking of making a lag switch

[crisp oxide]

But I'm on xbox

[fervent carbon]

lag switches are stupid

[lone karma]

Are lag switches even a thing anymore

[uneven hollow]

If only we can lag switch irl

[solid hinge]

Im on PC and I see a shit ton of servers

[jade lintel]

In BF4 half the blasted servers are skillcore

[lone karma]

I know they were popular back in the xbox360 days

[solid hinge]

Play in your reigions

[lone karma]

Ain't heard of them much now

[solid hinge]

it's because most connections are no longer clientside

[fervent carbon]

nah i love my occasional 140 ping on an american server

[solid hinge]

They only worked for P2P things. If you try to lagswitch a game with dedicated servers you're just gunna disconnect yourself and nobody is gunna notice.

[devout steeple]

Making one so I can troll

[solid hinge]

The only games lag switches even really help in are old cod games that rely on clientside hosts

lol

[fervent carbon]

yep

its s t u p i d

[devout steeple]

My friends still play bo2

So it’s gonna be funny

[solid hinge]

So many games I'd like to play again from the 360 era but can't because cheaters had to shit them up.

The servers for RDR1 on 360 are literally hacked to the point where even if there's no cheaters in the game it's still completely broken and non-functional.

[solid hinge]

Too bad console devs didn't used to take AC that seriously back then

[devout steeple]

Tried playing bf3 again but the servers are really empty

[solid hinge]

still not as dead as hardline

[devout steeple]

Hardline still has servers

Not as much it’s still stable I guess

[solid hinge]

join empty lobby on RDR1
walk into gang hideout
gang hideout instantly completes, giving you all the rewards

It's entirely fucked.

Hardline averages 120 people globally on average

[devout steeple]

O

[solid hinge]

BF3 averages over 1000

[devout steeple]

I’m on xbox

[solid hinge]

Yeah I know. It's awful.

[solid hinge]

Why lol

[peak totem]

i mean as long your not rubberbanding all of over the place

[devout steeple]

I feel like going back to bf4 on the xbox 360

[fervent carbon]

EU at 8 AM barely has any challenge usually

[solid hinge]

I bet you wont last 10mins in japan server

[solid hinge]

why

it sucked

[devout steeple]

There’s something about the 360 version

[peak totem]

i mean i lived on Guam before moving to the US, i was playing japanese servers on Guam lol

[devout steeple]

Idk what it is tho

[solid hinge]

From what I've heard, Xbox doesn't even do console bans all that often anymore, but to be fair, it's probably because the Xbox One (and by extension, Series X) is nigh-unhackable. Or, at least according to their security conference in 2019, it's more expensive to hack than the console is worth, so it's literally a lose-lose battle if you try it and get console banned. You'd be hemorrhaging money.

[devout steeple]

Hope it doesn’t become like that ps3 drama

[peak totem]

i played pretty decent on japanese servers

[solid hinge]

Eeh you where close to tokyo lol

[peak totem]

i mean 3 hours away from Japan doesn't sound far

[solid hinge]

What tf is a sigma

[devout steeple]

sigma balls

[solid hinge]

Bruh that’s sigma

[solid hinge]

Something you wouldn't understand, beta

[solid hinge]

Lol buy a jet you be there half the time

Haven't seen a cheater on Xbox since I quit 360, so I guess it works. XD

[fervent carbon]

how do ppl cheat on consoles

[peak totem]

probably lol

[solid hinge]

Bruh I’m slegma

[solid hinge]

Usually by replacing parts in the consoles with jailbreaked versions

[fervent carbon]

cool

[solid hinge]

Which, for all intents and purposes, cannot be done on last- and current-gen.

[fervent carbon]

good

[devout steeple]

I hope we can cross play in bf2042 with the current gen consoles and next gen

[fervent carbon]

that would be funny

[solid hinge]

yeah, that also means less freedom for the buyer, so it's kinda a double edged sword

[compact oxide]

Let's not discuss cheating here please

[peak totem]

pretty sure they will

[fervent carbon]

the amount of farming would be unreal

[solid hinge]

We are discussing more specifically anti cheat

but alright

[fervent carbon]

agreed

[surreal shuttle]

But can someone give a gun I should max out next in bf4?

Idk what to do

[fervent carbon]

ace23

[solid hinge]

MPX

[granite ferry]

Acwr

[peak totem]

the maires leg

[solid hinge]

A-91.

[solid hinge]

DICE has new server farms in africa and asia and middleeastern reigion

[fervent carbon]

rpg7

[granite ferry]

Ok i gotta agree with Mares Leg

[solid hinge]

if someone says AEK I will unleash my fursona

[peak totem]

get the scope for it lmao

[solid hinge]

I hope servers live up

Why the fuck would you ever spend the time maxing the Mare's Leg?

[devout steeple]

You can have a leg as a gun?

[granite ferry]

AEK bad

[solid hinge]

because it's funny

[peak totem]

just because

[solid hinge]

do it for the vine

[peak totem]

basically

[devout steeple]

Do it for the funny

[solid hinge]

I can see it.

I just wish it was better. Lever-actions are cool.

[peak totem]

i never want touch that horseshit of a game but if i was that bored then i would do it lmao

[solid hinge]

The Mare's Leg is such a shit weapon and it makes me sad.

[surreal shuttle]

Ooooo yeah I’m down for that one

[granite ferry]

I always use sw40 as my pistol

[devout steeple]

I used to think the mares leg was good because it was lever action

[surreal shuttle]

Already done

[granite ferry]

I main ACWR sw40

[surreal shuttle]

God no

[solid hinge]

It's really good, best PDW

I always use the .44 with the 3x scope. 🙃

[granite ferry]

Mpx is best pdw yeah

[peak totem]

surprisingly theres people who are pretty decent with the gun

[surreal shuttle]

No MP7

[granite ferry]

Its a great cqc gun

[surreal shuttle]

And I will stand by that opinion

[solid hinge]

MPX is like the MP7 combined with the VAL

[granite ferry]

I prefer mpx

[solid hinge]

and it's beautiful

[solid hinge]

I'd imagine so.

[solid hinge]

44. Can lay you out

[peak totem]

the VAL omg

[surreal shuttle]

Is that so?

Ok ok

Maybe then

I’ll give it a bf whirl

Attachment recommendations,

[fervent carbon]

famas

[surreal shuttle]

Assuming heavy and stub?

[granite ferry]

I used to main Scar but i fell in love with the acwr

[solid hinge]

Grand Theft Auto Online Shark Cards ©️

[peak totem]

honestly I never played with the VAL until I got BF4 on steam

[granite ferry]

Famas is also great

[solid hinge]

yep

[peak totem]

M249 tho

[solid hinge]

Best gun in bf4 is 44. Caliber d eagle

[surreal shuttle]

Scarh is my main assault weapon of choice I have that recoil control my bitch

[granite ferry]

BF recoil control isnt that hard imo

As a csgo player

[surreal shuttle]

It’s a Scarh tho

[peak totem]

camp with a bipod, 3.4x scope, and flash hider

[solid hinge]

i just counterknifed someone and got banned from the server lmao

he tbagged me first too

[crisp oxide]

Yea but it's pretty predictable

[solid hinge]

well yeah the recoil is CSGO is greatly exaggerated to the point where I sometimes wonder if my gun is actually just filled with rocks in the mag instead of bullets

[granite ferry]

Tbh i just pull down with the scar and its successful lmao i dont do anything special

[peak totem]

sadly that's just some admins

[granite ferry]

Lmao

[solid hinge]

A Desert Eagle chambered in .44 is honestly...pretty eh. They should have done .50 AE.

[surreal shuttle]

Noice

[crisp oxide]

It has big kick but in a super verticle line

[peak totem]

especially some servers that ban certain equipment and guns

[devout steeple]

The guy paid for the server

I think

[crisp oxide]

And it shoots slow

[surreal shuttle]

Scarh is good tho

Goat gun

[crisp oxide]

It is

[granite ferry]

Scar is awesome

[solid hinge]

It's not bad

[peak totem]

but i mean why ban someone who is just casually playing the game

[surreal shuttle]

Goat gun

[solid hinge]

i got hit by a rocket in a scout heli then he shot me down with his tank and tbagged me,so obvisouly i use c4 and a jeep but he got out of his tank and knifed me so i countered his ass n i guess he got mad

[crisp oxide]

But the recoils pretty mild

[solid hinge]

It will smack you in the face

[peak totem]

that's just some people

[granite ferry]

Scar deagle is a chad loadout

[solid hinge]

Also, this is relevant.

[solid hinge]

Wildly Inaccurate

but ok

[granite ferry]

Csgo recoil is side to side too

That chart is extremely innacurate

[surreal shuttle]

Alright on a rush server with a MPX

[solid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

[glass lichen]

what is the worst tank in bfv

[solid hinge]

The small one

[granite ferry]

[uneven hollow]

The French tank

[solid hinge]

all of them

Tiger tank is bae

[fervent carbon]

any bfv tank

[granite ferry]

Does it have a white flag on it

[peak totem]

man that game is like fuck your recoil sometimes lol

[granite ferry]

Yeah u have to master it

It tooks me weeks to completely master some recoil patterns

[solid hinge]

100% akreat

It was a joke, I don't know what there is to agree to. XD

[solid hinge]

True them bullets in csgo devs dislike physics class like ubisoft lol

csgo's shooting is so inconsistent and wacky that I have literally hit headshot flicks on accident that I never thought were logically possible

[glass lichen]

in rainbow six siege you shoot from your scope

[solid hinge]

Rainbow Six Siege bullets are randomized

Which is interesting

Guns are different patterns

RBS is good, RBD is not, that is my two cents on the matter

I played counter strike back in the day them bullets you always ask yourself what am i hitting

I quit Siege after someone shot a singular bullet hole in the wall and used that to look through and one-shot my head. Decided it was way too much of a sweatfest for me to have any fun if people were going to do some shit like that.

PUBG nobody on devs like physics class ever

[solid hinge]

Yeah rainbow has been slowly getting fucking ruined over the years

now it's terrible

[glass lichen]

it was always the wall

[solid hinge]

Yeah lol

[solid hinge]

finally someone else who understands

Csgo needs upgrades in gunplay lol bullets dont go up haha lol

Rainbows Balance, Cosmetics, and Weapons have ruined the game

Honestly people take the game way too seriously. Same can be said for a lot of games. Don't get me wrong, I understand that games like Siege are competitive games and that's literally what they're designed to be, but... There's a level between fun competition and I'm-gunna-camp-a-fucking-BULLET-HOLE.

[glass lichen]

i bought rainbow six seige cause of the free sale from june 17th to 20 but have no space to download it cause of warzone and bfV

and other games

[solid hinge]

Rainbow Six Siege needs 6 months of re coding the game

The codes are broken

[solid hinge]

No bro they need to make their full AAA priced co-op zombie spinoff nobody will buy or play!

Honestly they just need to add SWAT 4 to console. Or Ready or Not.

[solid hinge]

I can't wait for ready or not, looks so good

Ready Or Not is like what siege was actually meant to be

SWAT 4 > Siege.

I'll die on this hill.

[glass jewel]

I heard this in a video: BF1 isn't perfectly historically accurate, but it is historically immersive

[solid hinge]

Its a waste of reasources imo they need to fix the game not make dlc game

[solid hinge]

Rainbow Six Siege i admit theres alot of try hards lol

[chrome river]

Siege is horrible

Headshot system is ridiculous

[solid hinge]

I fully agree, Siege turned from a tactical swat shooter from the first trailer and characters, into a paintball type game with a WACKY AND FLAMBOYANT cast of characters that don't fit the game at all

ruined expierence

[solid hinge]

SWAT 4 does need console port

SWAT 4 needs a steam port

[solid hinge]

It's too old to get one, unfortunately.

I want X³ on console too, but holy shit what a fucking nightmare that would be to play with a controller.

[solid hinge]

Bruh that's actually stupid

I'd literally pay any amount (within reason) for X³ though.

[solid hinge]

Yeah people got sick of it all we wanted is polish game

Newest cosmetics for siege are even worse

The newest centurion outfit for maestro is just so

like

idek how to describe it

either way the game is a lot further away from what people originally wanted

[crisp oxide]

My whole team is camping and the enemy team has all the points on metro

What the actual fuck

I walk into the elevator area and see NOONE but then get sniped by some random guy hiding behind a door

[solid hinge]

@solid hinge this was just announced for Ready Or Not, pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5snFedstFU

[solid hinge]

True i liked vegas better it was gritty tactical game

[solid hinge]

Yeah Vegas was way better

Hide behind a wall and peek

I thought siege would do same but better

[solid hinge]

Nice!

just hope they release the full game soon

been a while

but great things take time

lol did you guys hear that EA got internally exposed for KNOWING about the cyber security vulnerabilities for MONTHS and did nothing about it?

can't wait to see how badly 2042 is filled with cheaters on launch

and if it's crossplay, oh god

will be DOA

I always turn off crossplay to PC if possible, or altogether if platform filters don't exist.

I hate that I'm part of the population problem that a lot of PC games may have (that crossplay attempts to try to solve), but to be honest, I don't have time for dickhead cheaters.

[solid hinge]

PC has no population problems

Even if there's no option to disable crossplay in a game, Xbox has a system option to disable it so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

crossplay is just a greater way to connect players

Granted it's kind of a scorched-earth solution, but still.

Crossplay is a way to bridge the gap between communities

instead of having to try and manage multiple at once

[pulsar lodge]

@solid hingegiga chad

[solid hinge]

Which I agree with, as long as it's between console brands.

PC players can have way too much advantage for my liking.

I don't even mean KBM either, as that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[solid hinge]

Which is why consoles should just use mouse and keyboard imo

Nah I getchu, games should come with KBM support by default.

[solid hinge]

fr

Aim assist sucks

fuck that

skill should be skill

not relying on a robot to do it for you

Crossplay is the new thing now

[pulsar lodge]

bf4 hitreg sucks

[crisp oxide]

I wish

[solid hinge]

Eh, I want aim assist for all console games. Aiming with a thumbstick is fucking garbage compared to a mouse. The skill floor (I emphasize 'floor' because I've had people misread this) for using a controller is a lot higher than KBM simply because of the thumbstick aiming. Obviously the skill ceiling is lower than KBM, but still.

[solid hinge]

Which is why I say just get rid of controllers

if you want crossplay, just make everyones ability to control the game completely the same

[solid hinge]

factual

Not everyone wants to use KBM, though. Like me. XD

True, that's what input-based MM is for.

as long as consoles use controllers and aim assist, then there will always be an unfair advantage on both sides regarding crossplay

I only like using KBM if the game itself practically requires it. X³ is a perfect example. You play your keyboard like a damn piano for that game. I tried playing with a controller and while it was awesome for ship controls...god it was so bad for everything else.

Im fightin for my rank in rainbow six siege 😉

[pulsar lodge]

daddy buy me rtx 3090

[solid hinge]

Also I just realized this wasn't general chat again. Sorry, Way.

I mean, I was talking about 2042 crossplay

but yeah

[prime pine]

I thought it was gen chat too LMAO

[solid hinge]

😂

[prime pine]

To be honest

[solid hinge]

k bet, you gotta mine doge coin for me though

[prime pine]

As long as we can just do xbox psn crossplay but allow us to connect to pc servers that would be just be cool.

[pulsar lodge]

UwU papa

[glacial knoll]

u have quite the portfolio

[solid hinge]

uwubaru

[solid hinge]

Tbh i dont see skill gap wise on PC

[prime pine]

Cold war is fucking bullshit because apparently on psn, you can set who you want to play with but on xbox or pc you can only generally turn it, no specifics.

[solid hinge]

PC just has FOV and

[prime pine]

Pc players are a lot more mobile on due part of the mouse

[solid hinge]

FPS

[crisp oxide]

Cold war has kbm support tho

[prime pine]

Its really easy to look around precisely with a mouse

[solid hinge]

Yeah I getchu, that's what I want. For BF2042, assuming it has crossplay (can't see why it wouldn't, at least for current-gen and PC) it would be so nice to have 2 options. One, the option of whether crossplay is active at all, and two, the option to connect to PC players.

...Unless that's literally what you said and I'm an idiot.

[solid hinge]

Idk i tried PC bf4 it didnt feel different from console

There is always going to be an inherent balance between console and PC players, and it it can lean either side aswell, I know a lot of crossplay games give console players way too much aim assist and it sucks, but I have also seen games do the opposite.

[prime pine]

You pretty much explained what I said in more depth, dont worry.

I want crossplay to become a thing because the psn boys will increase the skill gap here in oce

[solid hinge]

On both controller and MnK i play on 100 everything but ads is 160% it felt no different

But yeah I do agree crossplay should be 100% optional for server owners

In all honesty, aim assist, while obviously a pretty powerful tool depending on the game...just doesn't really compare to all the advantages of PC. I mean consoles are catching up in these regards, but framerate, FOV, resolution...so many things could give a not-insignificant advantage.

[prime pine]

This sounds bad but based out of the info we have right now, I dont think we will get cross play. I'd love to eat my words though.

Yeah

[solid hinge]

I'm not mad about that honestly

Couldn't care less

[solid hinge]

Lol aim assists is 80% you 20% computer

[prime pine]

Its really good for smaller regions like oce

From 10 15 active servers to double to tripe that.

[solid hinge]

Aim assists dont work how people think it does gives lil boost

if the game is crossplay the game will have a huge cheating issue, especially with the EA leaks and their lack of info regarding AC which scares me

[prime pine]

The worst kind of AA is snap aim

Slowdown and sticky are fine

[solid hinge]

Some games are almost unplayable to any significant degree without aim assist with a controller.

Here's the thing, if the aim system of a game is designed to be used with a controller in mind, or is just designed very well for controller use (Watch_Dogs is a great example, aim assist is literally not even needed in that game), then it isn't a problem.

[solid hinge]

Depends how computer process it and you

Most games don't do this though, which is hilarious to say considering some of them are console exclusive.

The computer helps the player a bit

[pulsar lodge]

dice x kojima

[solid hinge]

Black ops cold war is next level AA everybody on console has it on

if EA doesn't double up on AC like rainbow and use EAC plus Fairfight, then I have no faith in their attempts to stop cheaters, the EA copy of the overwatch system from Valve will hardly even put a dent in the cheating population

[solid hinge]

True they got IT working on new software let hope it works

[prime pine]

Bf5 has incredible aiming on console

[solid hinge]

Never tried it lol

[solid hinge]

I have literally no faith in internal AC programs, and that's because of the EA source leak

[solid hinge]

Honestly the main thing is the aiming method. Using a thumbstick to move your aim in 2D space is honestly really fucking goofy, but with a mouse it's not goofy at all.

It's not intuitive at all (on controller), hence the higher skill floor.

Cheaters have already found ways around EA's internal anti cheat if it was in development during the leaks

Jesus

And this is coming from a lifelong console player.

[solid hinge]

Good point during the pandemic working at home leaves vulnerabilities to servers for EA for hackers

[azure nest]

At least console doesn't have them

[solid hinge]

Best aiming/controller experience I have ever had is VR

[broken linden]

Imagine when we first boot up 2042, first thing we fucking see is Easy Anti-Cheat lmao

[solid hinge]

Lol i tried it felt like aimbot no lie lol

KBM is a lot better for certain things, and controller is a lot better for certain things.

Yeah, VR aiming is pretty sweet because you're only limited by your own speed.

[solid hinge]

I would be happy

rejoiced in fact

[broken linden]

[solid hinge]

Hackers will try many ways breaking in EA servers lol

I've always wondered if my firearm experience would transmit to a multi-player VR shooter, but I'll probably never find out.

Wouldnt be suprised someone with god mode

[solid hinge]

VR aiming is like in its own realm, shit is on another level, imagine if aiming was actually determined by your own actual real accuracy and gun skill

[broken linden]

EA needs to hire some white hats to work around that shit

[solid hinge]

I'd probably have an easier time finding out if someone didn't steal my FUCKING QUEST.

😑

[solid hinge]

Agreed pay them double

[compact oxide]

VR FPS is weird because the weight of things isn't there or the feedback

[broken linden]

did I miss a page ;-;

[solid hinge]

Depends on the game

Some VR games have weighted guns

and it works very well

[solid hinge]

Oh absolutely, it definitely is really weird not to have the weight in your hands, and it does impact your performance.

[compact oxide]

I'm talking irl weight isn't there

Unless you get those super expensive add-ons

[solid hinge]

well yeah there's only so much you can do

[solid hinge]

Interesting enough they may make gun range VR game

Granted, I'm damn near a cripple at this point and almost died (not literally, obviously) from 4 hours of airsoft so I can't imagine having weighted weapons is gunna help me out. My arms would just fall off. 😂

[broken linden]

You handle LMGs as you would a knife

[solid hinge]

quests aren't that great

[solid hinge]

Shot in the leg kylie

[compact oxide]

What I'm getting as is I feel none of my irl gun experience helped with VR

[solid hinge]

a lot of games that run on them are downgrades

[solid hinge]

Oh I know they aren't the best, but it was a nice VR experience.

Really the only VR experience's worth buying is the index and original vive

[solid hinge]

I wish my problem was just a shot, as I'd maybe be able to fix it. 😅

[compact oxide]

Quest 2 is okay for price performance but it's surprisingly crappy overall

[solid hinge]

[compact oxide]

Vive pro is a straight upgrade bro

[solid hinge]

Yeah but it's pretty overpriced for what it is

index is better

[compact oxide]

I've got a HP reverb G2 and a Vive pro and I still prefer the HP tbh

[solid hinge]

Battlefield VR up next folks lol

[solid hinge]

My dad started getting arthritis in his 20s or 30s, and that's where the fuck I'm at now. Shit's garbage. I feel like I'm 90. 😂

I wanna do airsoft again, though. Shit was mad fun.

[broken linden]

I like the VR experience called dreaming, that shit scared tf out of me when I fell of a cliff

[solid hinge]

Dude holy shit, best VR game ever is called Blade and Sorcery, literally the best fucking thing in the universe

[compact oxide]

Higher res is much nicer unless you're playing a super dark game

[broken linden]

Boneworks was a good vr gaem

[solid hinge]

Haha you knee are squeak and moving 1mph lol

[solid hinge]

I didn't really like it

[broken linden]

not your cup of tea huh

[solid hinge]

Boneworks feels more like a physics demo than a game at most points

and the climbing is very hit and miss

same with the puzzle gameplay

[solid hinge]

I'm a limpy, grumpy old geezer. The only thing I'm missing is a cane and I'd be Dr. House. 🤣

[solid hinge]

Omg house haha

[broken linden]

[compact oxide]

Honestly the game I still play the most of in VR is beatsaber

[solid hinge]

You be roasting the kids to lol

https://store.steampowered.com/app/629730/Blade_and_Sorcery/

this game is literally worth every penny

[solid hinge]

Yep.

House be doing that

Which is ironic because a lot of my friends are kids. Don't look too far into that, it's not that serious.

[broken linden]

Miss Kylie D is the type of person that would call some teen paying with their apple watch, "future boy"

[solid hinge]

Just what happens when you play on Xbox.

[solid hinge]

only bad thing about this game is that it runs like shit, which is excusable because it's an extremely small team

Low-key I actually do. I use some straight up boomer slang. 🤣

[compact oxide]

[solid hinge]

Xbox in VR more it use your irl height lol

[broken linden]

kekw

[solid hinge]

I may be short lol

[solid hinge]

Every VR headset uses your height

lol

[compact oxide]

Ah, so I may have issues running it on my reverb then

[solid hinge]

"These kids and their weird shit today," is a sentence that has come out of my mouth.

Haven't even hit 30 yet.

[solid hinge]

possibly, but the performance and graphics improve with each update, as I said it's quite a small team though

[compact oxide]

It's a pity the vive pro 2 has bad reviews, I'd honestly buy it as the vive pro is very comfortable

[solid hinge]

"Newfangled technology and these frou-frou bubble drinks," another quote. 🤣

[compact oxide]

Btw what card do you have if it runs bad

[solid hinge]

2080 ti, but It doesn't run bad for me

I just know a lot of people have issues

not me personally though

[broken linden]

how did we go from cod mw lobbies to amogus fortnite kids

[compact oxide]

Ah yeah, I'm running mine off a 3070 for the res

[solid hinge]

I've honestly had a...frankly startling amount of people tell me, and mean it, that they thought I had time-traveled from the 70s/was stuck in the 70s.

[solid hinge]

Well I also have a really beefy CPU and a ton of ram so take my opinion of performance with a grain of salt

[solid hinge]

Lol i always wonder lol i look vr games saying one person taller then other

[prime pine]

Its weird being 22

But its natural too

[solid hinge]

Lol

[solid hinge]

Vietnam War Vet Miss Kylie D

[compact oxide]

What CPU then? I'm on an 8700 which is more than enough for most physics in VR games now

[solid hinge]

i9-9900k

[solid hinge]

Still way to young

[compact oxide]

Ah noice

[solid hinge]

Yeah I getchu, Way. It's...really weird.

I thought my 20s were gunna be awesome, but all I got was alcoholism and arthritis. I feel cheated.

[broken linden]

wth

[prime pine]

I dominate the boomers with my fg42 being not even half their age

[broken linden]

dyno bad

[prime pine]

Bot is set to remove spoilerd messages for now

[solid hinge]

Next update of blade and sorcery is adding a ton of shit though

plus the game has a ton of mods

[solid hinge]

Oh, I wondered why my message got deleted that one time. Good to know.

including a whole starwars overhaul mod

[compact oxide]

Just play Skyrim VR for mods

[prime pine]

I just see it as another stage in my life to continue on. Gotta make of what I can with it.

[solid hinge]

Skyrim VR is terrible

[compact oxide]

It really is

[solid hinge]

literally one of the worst VR games I have played

[compact oxide]

It requires mods to make it work

[solid hinge]

Very wise way to see it. Upside, though, haven't had a drop of booze in...checks sober app...

[broken linden]

oh, cri

[compact oxide]

Especially if you use the index controllers

[solid hinge]

1 year and 4 months.

Yay me.

[prime pine]

Oh wow that's amazing

[thick coyote]

Hey so if anyone is having issues with BF4 not launching.. I had BF4 on a 2nd hard drive instead of my windows drive, and it would always just get stuck and crash. I reinstalled on my main drive and it worked just fine

[solid hinge]

Lol we boomer have experience and wits but i respect that will lol

[prime pine]

The future is now, old man!

[solid hinge]

😂

Lol

[solid hinge]

Mmm we see young blood

[solid hinge]

Booze Cruising is based

[compact oxide]

My 20's has been me getting super fat and changing course into a dead end IT job

[solid hinge]

IT you getting paid what you talking about lol

That's me whenever I walk into...pretty much any store or building with technology in it. Walked into a exercise place and literally thought, "Back in my day we just had fucking treadmills, what is all this other shit?!"

[prime pine]

Haha

[uneven hollow]

[prime pine]

Naughty angra

[uneven hollow]

That is very sussy Baka

[compact oxide]

I'm getting paid under the average for my field

[solid hinge]

Boomer

[uneven hollow]

It’s not like I’m trying to spoil some leaks towards the upcoming hit game battlefield 2042

[solid hinge]

They dont want young blood to get IT big bucks lol

[prime pine]

Cant you sue them

If youre being paid under av

[solid hinge]

"With fatter people comes more advanced gym equipment" - simple evolution of society

[solid hinge]

I mean that's what happens when the only people you're around growing up that are actually your age is in school. I was raised by my grandparents and all their friends (obviously old as well). I boomer'd by the time I was 8, honestly. 🤣

[prime pine]

I've been going to the gym as of late actually. Really fun.

[compact oxide]

Na it's not illegal just super close to minimum

[prime pine]

Ahhhh

[solid hinge]

going to the gym always improves my mental state

[crisp oxide]

Battlefield 4

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 1942

[fervent carbon]

bf4 improves mental state

and works on high blood pressure and salt regulation

[solid hinge]

Exercise is super freeing, yeah. Used to go on walks a lot, sometimes runs (on a treadmill, as I live in the desert and don't plan on dying from heat stroke). Always felt super great and accomplished afterwards.

BF4 is for sure the most fun I have had in any game for a long time

I will say that

[crisp oxide]

I like music

[solid hinge]

Aussie?

Music is awesome!

[solid hinge]

Want my 600 song playlist?

jk

[solid hinge]

Unfortunately not. Southwest US.

its too based for you

[crisp oxide]

Is it Spotify?

[solid hinge]

yes

[solid hinge]

O yeah arizona

Yep.

Texas is worst kind of desert

[crisp oxide]

I have a pretty based 300ish one if you want

[solid hinge]

It's almost 10 PM and it's still over 90°F outside.

Fucking sun needs to explode already.

[solid hinge]

go to bed

[solid hinge]

sure

bed time

⏰

My bed time is never.

@solid hinge Wanna know the worst part of BF4?

What? 🤔

Battlepacks and Microtransactions

Yep. Fully agree. I HATE the fact that attachments are locked behind lootboxes.

I hope BF2042 keeps the BFV system of having all the standard optics available from the start for every weapon.

I want the customization system of BF4 back though. Really, really don't like the direction they went with 1 and V.

[solid hinge]

same

some of the skins in V were cool

I liked that they kept a somewhat consistent vibe

unlike CW

with clown skins

and anime tanks

I meant for the guns, but yeah, I hope they continue with the character customization too from BFV.

[solid hinge]

Oh

well yeah that too

And yeah, I agree. I'm so tired of the goofy skins.

BF4 had great gun customization

[worthy mist]

what's the best carbine in bf4?

[solid hinge]

A-91 and the M4 are my go-tos.

[solid hinge]

same, the 2042 trailer gives me hope for good skins that aren't super outlandish, but you never know

[solid hinge]

Yeah. I just really hope they don't get stupid with it.

Like, considering they're just mercenaries, I can see some creative liberty taken for individualism, but if anyone wants me to believe some dude fully weebed-out is gunna be sprinting around the battlefield clapping people...nah.

[solid hinge]

agreed

[sand meteor]

Hello ladies and gentleman

I'm Korean youtuber

https://youtu.be/gBrTrnss7gI

[crimson pivot]

i dont see battlefield going full weeb

[sand meteor]

Please subscribe me

And have a good day

[solid hinge]

#streams-and-videos

Like things like helmet stickers, gun charms (as...useless as this feature is since they're always so far back you can hardly see the shit), patches, stuff like that. I could see that stuff being used to show your interests, but full-on Super Princess Bubblegum skins or something? Ha.

[solid hinge]

again, agreed

I'm fine with small stuff

just not full on anime tanks like cod

fuck that

Exactly.

Makes the game go from somewhat serious military shooter to paintball arena game

also just makes the lore less heavy hitting

Yep. Of course Battlefield is still a casual arcade shooter, but in all honesty, that doesn't mean it has to have all this weird shit in it. Leave that stuff to CoD since people seem to really like it there.

"I know we are almost out of water, but look at my anime tank and clown uniform bro!!!111"

[azure nest]

Airfield campers are so bad

I kept flying in circles around the resupply for like 3 minutes and he couldn't even kill me

[solid hinge]

Meanwhile, in CoD Mobile. 😂

Because this makes fucking sense.

[azure nest]

I hate wannabe pilots

[solid hinge]

for some reason whenever I say we shouldn't have skins like that, I get berated for wanting a "military realism sim", but that's just not true, a game can maintain a balance between realism and complete fuckery without being a milsim

its flawed logic

[azure nest]

That act like they're so good when they aren't

They only get kills by airfield camping

Yet, they're bad at camping

I hate PS+ noobs

[solid hinge]

I mean BF4 obviously didn't have a problem with it and nobody considers it a milsim, or at least...I really hope nobody considers BF4 a milsim game.

Holy fuck they are still fully updating doom eternal

what legends

legit just added RTX

and true 4k

so cool

I mean didn't it come out like last year though?

[solid hinge]

Yeah

but they don't need to still update it

yet they do anyway

I getchu, but it's good that they do. Long-term support for games is what helps them live. Shit, Warframe, GTA Online, and Warzone would have died already if it weren't for constant content additions and other updates.

[solid hinge]

I still feel extremely immersed in BF4, even with all the wild arcade shit in the game, it was the same with 1

I getchu.

And it's because it still felt like a war

not a cosmetic show

BFV has...what's his name? Wilhelm? The Phantom of the Opera guy. I thought that was a bit much, but I didn't think it crossed the line too bad.

[solid hinge]

If BFV wasnt a ww2 game, all of the cosmetics with an updated modern appearance would work fine in 2042

I love the style in that games cosmetics

Yep, I getchu.

they clearly took a lot of time

and they look good

and not super insane wacky clown exo suit man

from cold war

Yep.

[prime pine]

Wilhelm reminds me of deaths head from wolfenstein. Who was coincidentally named Wilhelm too.

[solid hinge]

Wolfenstien TNO was so fucking good

shame bethesda ruined it

[prime pine]

Wilhelm tenne something and Wilhelm strass

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Wolfenstein was so fucking cool.

Yes.

[prime pine]

It was incredible

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Bethesda can go die

fuck them

they ruin everything

Honestly, I'm glad they really didn't pull any (or at least very many) punches with the game. Even having you-know-who himself really added to it.

It really felt like you were actually fighting in a world where Germany won.

Wolfenstien 2 and Young Blood were so bad

holy shit

legit dog water

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You trippin on 2 lol but YB yeah

[prime pine]

The new colossus was bearable

But it didn't have as much of an impact as tno

[solid hinge]

more than half of 2 was drawn out cinematics with unlikable characters, cringe humor, terrible pacing, and shitty dialogue

The one thing I like about Bethesda is their unique feel to their games, but yeah, they really need to step their game up after the decade of shit we've gotten.

[prime pine]

Return to castle wolfenstein is my all time favourite

[solid hinge]

Yeah i can agree on that but gameplay is insane thou

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Gameplay was fine

still liked TNO's flow better

[prime pine]

I do like how dual weilding doesn't slow you down.

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Bethesda said third one is in development

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"Unique Feel" do you mean the increasingly aging engines they refuse to properly update?

[prime pine]

Whats the most recognisable enemy in wolfenstein for you guys? For me it's the damn super soldiers. Things scared the fuck out of me in rtcw

[solid hinge]

Can we just agree Cod is the best game hands down

[prime pine]

Eh

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Probably the Panzerhaund

[prime pine]

To you maybe

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Lol fo4 engine was great

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Lol

[prime pine]

The big ones or the little ones?

[solid hinge]

Lmfao. Don't get me wrong, I can almost guarantee I can go on an anti-Bethesda rant that would rival the collective rage of the entire community itself, but they still have this unique feel that I like.

FO4's engine cannot run over 60 fps

[prime pine]

Im very interested to see if we get a quake reboot

[solid hinge]

Fallout 4 is...akin to a burning bag of cow shit left on your doorstep.

[solid hinge]

Fair enough, they trainwrecked fallout, so fuck them for eternity

Fallout 76 just left the bag at home.

[prime pine]

An OG quake reboot. With the original theme. I love the strogg but the first main theme of the games was stronger

[solid hinge]

Fallout was so good

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Even with 3080 ti or intel gen 8

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It's an engine level feature that has been in the engine since 2001

and has never been fixed

or reworked

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Its disappointment imo

That would be fucking mint, Way. The original Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament, all remade... I might die. 😄

Huge let down fo 76

FO4's engine is not physically capable of running over 60 fps, otherwise tons of things break

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And Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield run on the same engine

let that shit sink in

[fathom pebble]

Isnt Bethesda working on a new engine

[solid hinge]

Bethesda is old studio in gaming they will catch up in today standard

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Remake Fallout 1 and 2 but let obsidian do it

[fathom pebble]

Supposed to run ES6 and Starfield

[prime pine]

Let obsidian make their fallout games

[solid hinge]

No they have billions of dollars and hundreds of employees

there is no excuse

[prime pine]

A new fallout with obsidian please please please

[solid hinge]

Starfield look amazing

[prime pine]

Give bad guys that aren't so black and white

[solid hinge]

No, it's literally just a slightly upgraded engine called "Creation 2"

New Vegas was...honestly if it weren't for the SHIT engine, it's probably one of the greatest RPGs ever made.

it's gambryo at heart

from 1997

[prime pine]

Ceaser may or been an ass but damn did they give a pretty good reason for that

[solid hinge]

I know lol but if they want cheap it there choice

[solid hinge]

That was literally a pre rendered E3 cinematic

Then again, having a shit engine or low budget doesn't change greatness. Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines had the budget of Birdemic and it's still the best vampire game ever made.

[fathom pebble]

Yes but doesnt mean its bad, just because a game engine was bad programmed before doesnt mean there's change

[solid hinge]

A hill I'll gladly die on.

[fathom pebble]

[prime pine]

Were you aware that a bunch of modders were recreating nv under fo4 engine?

[solid hinge]

Top notch PC specs

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The problem is, Bethesda have continually neglected their engine to the point of breaking for YEARS at this point

[solid hinge]

Yes, and I can't wait to see where it goes. 🤩

[prime pine]

The gunplay of 4 was actually a really massive step up so

[solid hinge]

Engine upgrades and overhauls only work when you actually, y'know, upgrade and overhaul them

[prime pine]

Yeah

[solid hinge]

Not really