battlefield-legacy-titles

[blissful bane]

The silenced semi automatic for recon

With the IR scope

[solid hinge]

that one..

[tough lodge]

@pine cave what are you talking about

Industrial Toys?

It's not a Toy Shop

It's the name of a Studio

They dont sell toys

[prime pine]

Yall want to do an analysis?

[hazy tapir]

Soon

[wicked spear]

i bought bf5

[tough lodge]

!!whens the teaser coming out

!!when

[ruby trail]

Soon™ 😉

[fast pebble]

wtf doees soon meen

[tough lodge]

just soon enough

[fast pebble]

dang

[ripe arch]

For you and me, it means 5 minutes
For game developers, it means one month

[solid hinge]

when the light goes out

[jagged helm]

Hey everyone

I'm new here, excited for the new Battlefield

[granite wyvern]

My money is on 26th May (but no one knows for sure yet)

[tough lodge]

Thats possible

Most BF trailers come out at the end of may

[ripe arch]

Stop calling it teaser, it's trailer!

[minor jacinth]

[celest pollen]

how about a teaser trailer

[buoyant knot]

How about none?

I think we'll still get an in-game easter egg like bf1

[hoary stirrup]

Every time you mention the trailer, it gets delayed another day

[crimson tinsel]

Sometimes a teaser is made to tease the trailer, the terminology is correct.

[ripe arch]

How are we certain it's gonna be a teaser? It's more likely to be a reveal trailer like BF1 and V

[kindred stone]

No, it's the release date obviously.

[bitter oyster]

Soon

[fast pebble]

true

[blissful bane]

Soon ™️

[crimson tinsel]

We are not certain of anything. And BFV had a teaser trailer before the reveal, it looked like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dxQKnzAvWY

[buoyant knot]

But that was after the white horse ARG in bf1

[ripe arch]

I'm not referring to that, since not many people is gonna watch it, I personally won't be interested in a 10 second clip

[buoyant knot]

You wont?!

[crimson tinsel]

And BF1 had a teaser as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88K7Kxg2Vn0

[buoyant knot]

I'm hungry for anything

[ripe arch]

Nope, it's not revealing anything significant about the game, I'm not that dopamine hungry

[crimson tinsel]

hence why it's a teaser

not a real reveal trailer

[ripe arch]

Yes, and I care about the reveal trailer like most people

[crimson tinsel]

and over 900k people saw the BFV teaser so "since not many people is gonna watch it" seems like it's not the case.

[harsh ridge]

Can someone tell me if i can report a hacker here on BFv or not cuz reporting on origin does not work

[ripe arch]

Steps to dealing with a cheater in BFV

1. Stop playing BFV

[crimson tinsel]

You can't report cheaters on Discord. https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/faq/how-to-report-cheat-hack-scam-websites-to-ea/ tells you your options.

[obtuse glade]

Damn straight

[crimson tinsel]

I'm saying read https://help.ea.com/en-us/help/faq/how-to-report-cheat-hack-scam-websites-to-ea/ if you want to report cheating and read the discord server rule 4 about not discussing cheats on here.

[ripe arch]

No, none, you can do everything right, taking time out of your day to get this done, but in the end, not worth it, it's better to just change server

[barren mango]

You naughty naughty

You teasy meee

[swift edge]

Lol I've just killed a guy in BF4 which was invisible

I said him I had a video to prove he cheats or uses glitch

And his only response was that I have no skills lmao

[obtuse glade]

They don’t care it isn’t likely they get banned anyways

[jade peak]

guys

[jade peak]

salut my friend

[crimson tinsel]

!!r4

[ruby trail]

Rule 4: Do not bypass the filter, disrupt voice/text channels, impersonate users, abuse spoiler tags, discuss cheats, post cheat websites/exploits, name & shame.

[swift edge]

Lol I know but this little shit accused me of cheating while he's the real cheater lmao, now I can prove he's and I'm not

[rancid lichen]

Imagine cheating if you cheat you know your bad at gaming

[swift edge]

Salut mec

[obtuse glade]

Or use exploits

[swift edge]

Lol obviously the fact he was cheating didn't make him better yeah

[rancid lichen]

Mods for entertainment purpose in storymode sure do what u like but in online yeah just no

[jade peak]

i will die. help

[swift edge]

Using mods in single player is fine but never in MP

[swift edge]

Why ?

[jade peak]

in maybe 70 years or 80

so funny right?

:((

[swift edge]

Lol now I really want you to die

[jade peak]

LOL

[obtuse glade]

You got the whole squad laughing 😬

[jade peak]

hope so

[rancid lichen]

Its not although if the modders make custom servers where they only play with other modders its fine but thats about it

[swift edge]

Lol no

[jade peak]

i broke my 1 tooth 3 times, got hurt 4 times, and had surgery of tooth 3 times for same tooth and first and most painful 1 was when i was 7 yro. i still should be careful bout my tooth.

[rancid lichen]

Imagine living for 90 more years now

[swift edge]

Yes they just ruin your game and accuse you of being the cheater to cover themselves lol

[rancid lichen]

In 90 years im 108 pffff i dont wanna become that old

[swift edge]

Wtf lol

[jade peak]

lol right?

i couldn't play any sport

i waited in school breaks and did nothing more than watching my friends play

[willow yew]

I NEED A STAFF MEMBER ASAP

[jade peak]

i got the warning

i understood

sorry

[crimson tinsel]

This is the Battlefield channel. If you want to discuss life spans go to #general plz.

[obtuse glade]

Why?

[jade peak]

guys

how do i pro in bf1

my score mostly 8-5 (k-d)

[obtuse glade]

Main the kolibri

[jade peak]

funny

[obtuse glade]

Your KD will sky rocket

[willow yew]

Player report on discord trying to sell hacked credit cards to people... This is the only mutual server sooo

[obtuse glade]

@jade peak I have a 1.6 KD with the kolibri

[jade peak]

yeah, it iwll be 0-31738013(continues)-

[ripe arch]

What are people expecting from destruction in BF6?

[obtuse glade]

But nah I average a double positive kd with the kolibri no cap

[solid hinge]

in bf4, does charging the defib to full give the player you revive full health?

[blissful bane]

Hopefully much more of map is destructible than in V

[obtuse glade]

Yes

[solid hinge]

oh

thanks

[jade peak]

bruh i am new

[obtuse glade]

But no if you care about kd for some reason just go braindead mode and slap on the SMG 08

[ripe arch]

I think people are setting themselves for disappointment, I doubt destruction will change much compared to V

[blissful bane]

I know

[willow yew]

If battlefield 6 comes out of Ps4, which I guess it won't, I'll prolly get it. I really enjoyed bfv

For

[pine cave]

Finally got the Hellriegel

Now I can be a no skill try hard

[obtuse glade]

Ok

[obtuse glade]

Hellriegel ain’t that good imo

[pine cave]

I like MP18 more tbh

Trench Variant

[jade peak]

i play scout and kd is nothin for me

[ripe arch]

I think it will tho, like we don't want it to but it prob will

[willow yew]

Why don't you want it to?

[obtuse glade]

Because it will probably run like shit on last gen

[tough lodge]

@ripe arch it's a teaser first

[willow yew]

Hmm yeah I guess maybe dunno

[tough lodge]

They're not gonna release a trailer before a teaser

[willow yew]

Where is the teaser?

[tough lodge]

!!when and where is the teaser?

[ruby trail]

Soon™ 😉

[willow yew]

....

[ripe arch]

Because then you'll get BF4

[willow yew]

I thought bf4 dead

[pine cave]

I got used to ads spraying in bf4

[ripe arch]

Yeah, and most people won't care about the teaser, why is it worth discussing, most people will wait for reveal trailer

[tough lodge]

It's dead (on some regions)

[obtuse glade]

OCE always dead lmao

[willow yew]

Haha ps3 Europe still has some games running whiyh can be fun xD

I don't have the game for Ps4 for tho

[obtuse glade]

I have bf4 for the 360

[kindred stone]

it has many empty servers but still a concurrent playerbase of around a few houndred

[ripe arch]

TFW the PS5 is more powerful than my PC

[kindred stone]

yep

I just need some games for my ps5 tho

[ripe arch]

If CDPR can put Cyberpunk on last gen even though it can't run it, then I think DICE will put BF6 on last gen lmao

[tough lodge]

They probably will avoid releasing on previous gen

[kindred stone]

Dunno, maybe they will

but i think its not worth playing it on last gen consoles

[rancid lichen]

Bf6 will probably make last gen sound like 2 airplanes instead if 1 airplane

[kindred stone]

Ps4 go brrrrr

[sour shadow]

hey guys

[buoyant knot]

I almost can't hold it anymore

If it wasn't for college I'd be going crazy

[rancid lichen]

And well the airplane noise is usually easy to fix

Just clean it or let it get cleaned

[random blade]

Someone on a different discord shared a tweet by niklas which is apparently an Easter Egg of some kind, is this true?

[sour shadow]

Jet pack as a easter egg

[buoyant knot]

it's nothing special, just something for star wars day

[random blade]

Dang it

[pine cave]

Bf6 theme will be the full version of Tower of Babel music from BFV

[random blade]

I hope that doesn’t mean there’s nothing else today

[buoyant knot]

it does

and probably for tomorrow too

[ripe arch]

You think waiting for a trailer that's coming in less than a month is hard, imagine waiting for a game that's releasing in October

[buoyant knot]

Not the same

You have alphas/betas, new trailers, new info

Throughout the months until release

not this drought

[ripe arch]

Not really the full experience but I get you

[solid hinge]

Any tip to win in battlefield 3?

I hate the campers

[buoyant knot]

rush them

or join them

[ripe arch]

Smoke them off

[solid hinge]

They are many enemies

[buoyant knot]

well, if you can't defeat them, join them

[solid hinge]

Ok

but I want to beat them but there are many campers and it is impossible because they are all hidden and I do not know where they come from

will dice go full sjw again do u guys think

[buoyant knot]

what map?

[solid hinge]

Gran bazar and other maps

I don't know who call the other maps

[buoyant knot]

well depending on the mode camping can be essential to defend

if they are defending and you're attacking then that's just how it is

[solid hinge]

I atack but the campers

[slim plover]

trying to live = camping

[solid hinge]

Yes but I don't like camping

Is 🤢

Is not fun camping

I like go and kill everyone

well battlefield basically wants you to camp

[idle dove]

so that there is no more camping it is necessary to reduce the noise of the soldiers running

[robust mango]

depends on the role

[idle dove]

and more xp for capture an objectiv

[solid hinge]

Just have a good squad and u will be alive

No need to camp lol

[robust mango]

if youre recon you're camping pretty much

[random blade]

I’ve been wondering..

[solid hinge]

Nope no need

Grab a carbine put a beacon and flank the enemy team

[robust mango]

why would i be running around at mid range with a sniper? when i can sit back and kill people

[random blade]

Since consoles and pcs are getting much stronger, and the graphics for games have higher expectations, does that make it harder or easier to develop games nowadays?

[robust mango]

doesnt even make sense why i have to use a carbine

[random blade]

I mean graphics are better but the methods of making those graphics are also easier

[solid hinge]

Because u will win more points and will be more effective

[robust mango]

"completely ignore the 60% of the recon weapons so that you're not camping"

[solid hinge]

And help your team more

[robust mango]

yeah but who really cares in battlefield about always winning or losing. The game isnt really competitive when you play a normal game mode, you're basically playing at that point to have fun and enjoy the hectic gameplay

[crimson tinsel]

Recon should flank, act as spawnpoints and place well placed spawnpoints that help the team take new objectives.

[solid hinge]

And you will actually PTFO

And win points

[crimson tinsel]

some would say the gameplay is more fun and more hectic if both teams play to win

[solid hinge]

I do and it's way more fun then camping lol

[robust mango]

well yeah its always better if you win, but its not like you alone cause the team to lose

also fun is subjective just like carbonic basically said

some people have fun literally camping

[solid hinge]

Actually u can cause a team to lose alone

[robust mango]

1 person out of 32

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[robust mango]

i could apply that logic to anyone doing something wrong

[solid hinge]

If u grab a jet or a chopper and use it has taxi for example that might cost your time the game

[verbal barn]

@robust mango 🥵

[robust mango]

if you're in a tank and you're just sniping away sitting back you cost the game, and guess what: A ton of tank drivers do that to stay alive

[solid hinge]

Imagine u use an attack or scout chopper has taxi an enemy grabs it and if he is a good pilot he will destroy your team alone

[grizzled jacinth]

Hello

[robust mango]

people use vehicles for their own desires all the time

[solid hinge]

That's because most of the times they are noons

Noobs

A frontline tank can do a lot

I've hold a hole team with a tank

[grizzled jacinth]

@solid hinge sorry to bother, may i ask you if you want to play bf5 with me?

[solid hinge]

Me and a gunner

[grizzled jacinth]

On ps4

[solid hinge]

Nah sorry can't right now

[grizzled jacinth]

Not not, We will play tomorow or in weekend

I have 2-3 players

[solid hinge]

Oh yeah sure

[grizzled jacinth]

I ll let you know when we team up

[solid hinge]

Ok

[grizzled jacinth]

I ll send you an friend request

[idle dove]

for its you have to lower the kill xp and increase that for lens capture

[grizzled jacinth]

If it s ok

[solid hinge]

Nice I'm always looking for a squad to play

[grizzled jacinth]

🤜 🤛

[solid hinge]

I usually play more bf4 cause I can have more control of the match but I sometimes play bfv

Rarely

Mainly because I love the chopper gameplay in bf4

[grizzled jacinth]

If we will enjoy and have fun it doesn t mater wich version is :)

[robust mango]

ive actually never witnessed a BF game where ive been able to determine who costs the game tbh

[solid hinge]

I've

Yesterday I've done it lol

Medic

[solemn dirge]

Guys do you know how can we access to alpla/beta for "BF6" ?

[solid hinge]

I had 7k more points then the enemy first place

[wicked prairie]

vehicles

[solid hinge]

Just playing medic and reviving

[robust mango]

all i play is medic

so i know how that is

[wicked prairie]

tankers and pilots usually decide a lot of games

[robust mango]

well thats because tankers just want kills

[solid hinge]

I usually also play medic unless i grab a chopper or a jet

[robust mango]

they want a high K/D and thats it

[solid hinge]

most likely, become a battlefield content creator to possibly receive access for a closed alpha. for closed beta you would probably need to pre-order the game or again, receive a code for it. then finally open beta can be accessed by everyone. this is only an assumption as this was the case for the previous battlefield games.

I want a high k/d but I don't always play vehicles

[wicked prairie]

when I play a tank I usually just wanna fight enemy tanks tbh

[solid hinge]

Yeah

It's pretty nice to tank fight in bf

Also i love to dogfight in bf4

[robust mango]

i never really care about K/D

my overall K/D is like 1.56 or something and ive never cared

[solid hinge]

I care a lot xD

[robust mango]

im a medic main so i care about revive and heal score

[solid hinge]

I lost a good percentage of kd some time ago

I'm only at 1.4 kd now

I was at 2.1

[robust mango]

eh doesnt really matter. k/d isnt everything

especially if you play medic a lot

[wicked prairie]

imo. I just try to keep mine at 1.0 or 2.0, which just comes naturally. I don’t really play to have a good K/D, I play to get kills while having some fun

[solid hinge]

battlefield tend to emphasize on teamplay

Yeah

Bit medic gameplay is a lot of fun

Plus u win points af if u play it correctly

[wicked prairie]

depends on the game

[solid hinge]

iirc playing the objective/being a team player gets you more points on the leaderboard than amassing kills

Yeah

Specially if u are in a good squad u will win a lot of points

And probably change the outcome of the game

[robust mango]

i just care about having fun mostly

im only playing to do my best, not necessarily win the overall game

if the team has better players theyre going to win anyways

and i never step foot in a vehicle so theres really no reason for me to do that as well

[wicked prairie]

i don’t like relying on my team to win

[solid hinge]

Where can I send pics here ?

[robust mango]

same

[wicked prairie]

i trust myself more than them lol

[robust mango]

yeah i never trust a team in BF

[solid hinge]

I'll show what a frontline tank can do

[robust mango]

i hate tanks and vehicles in BF games

they feel way way way too cheap

[wicked prairie]

i mean

[solid hinge]

I went 46/9 playing in frontline

[wicked prairie]

they’re easily to play but harder to do well in

[robust mango]

nah

you can literally just sit back

[solid hinge]

U get ez taken down if u not careful

[wicked prairie]

^

[solid hinge]

Thing is most maps don't let u do that like zavod for example if u sit back u won't do anything

[robust mango]

most tanks who sit back they never get taken out

especially on pacific maps

they just sit back nailing people

[solid hinge]

Ah u talking about bfv

[robust mango]

yep

[solid hinge]

Last time I played bfv tanks where so overpowered

[sick hamlet]

Then why play Battlefield?

[solid hinge]

I went 57/0 playing frontline in rotterdam

[solid hinge]

probably because of the scale

[robust mango]

because idont need to get in them?

and you know community servers have a ton of infantry only

and also game modes like breakthrough dont have tanks 24/7

theres absolutely a million ways to play BF with minimal vehicles

[solid hinge]

Why don't u play operation metro lol

Best map for infantry

[robust mango]

because its just explosion spam

[sick hamlet]

Yes. But tanks and vehicles have been an integral part of Battlefield since the beginning.

[robust mango]

cool

and ive been playing since 1942 and i still hate vehicles

doesnt matter if its integral or not

[solid hinge]

true but not everybody gets to use one.

Only thing I don't like in the new battlefields is not having choppers

[wicked prairie]

Then play assault and be that one guy who tunnels the fuck out of the tanks

[robust mango]

i dont see why they would its ww1 and 2

[robust mango]

i main medic

[solid hinge]

That's why I don't like it

No chopper no fun

[granite wyvern]

Me too

[solid hinge]

Jets will just dominate the airs

[solid hinge]

and the fact that the planes are difficult to fly compared to fighter jets

[robust mango]

i avoid enemy vehicles all the time

[solid hinge]

The choppers where the thing that maintain air and ground connected

[robust mango]

i got into a tank once in BF1 and it was just so unreal boring, we were pretty much unkillable

[solid hinge]

Instead of being in the fk space bombing a hole team in plane

yeah i miss the choppers being our main transportation from base at the start of the match

[robust mango]

you can rack up like 2-3K points in a tank within less than a minute

[solid hinge]

I never played bf1

So Idk how it is there

[wide crystal]

Bf4 life

[solid hinge]

Yes

bf4 was ahead of its time but let's be honest, it's aged like hell.

Plus in bf4 if u sit down in tank at the back u will just get jdam to overlord

[robust mango]

I have the top 4% for score/min in tanks and I've been in a tank a total of 3 minutes and 30 seconds

[solid hinge]

Lol

i was mostly annoyed by the team autobalance in bf4

[robust mango]

8,864 points a minute pretty much in a tank

[solid hinge]

It feels like it's non existing

[robust mango]

well in BFV they dont have team switching because its done through SBMM

[gilded zenith]

i once got autobalanced on bf3 in metro when i was in the enemt flag behind them

[robust mango]

which is how BF6 will be in terms of balance, they will take average skill of both teams to prepare them

[gilded zenith]

and i got put to the winning team

[solid hinge]

i almost always get team switched whenever i'm on the winning team by the end of the match

Skill in bf is just bruh

[robust mango]

they will probably add in people to switch teams

[solid hinge]

Look at bf4 skill thing lol

[robust mango]

skill in BF games means literally like 10 different things

[solid hinge]

No one knows how that thing works

[robust mango]

BF4 doesnt have SBMM

they implemented it in BF1

[solid hinge]

It has SKDM

U have skill in bf4

[obtuse glade]

It doesn’t lmao

[solid hinge]

And it puts y in teams by it

[obtuse glade]

@robust mango by there being a server browser sbmm can’t exist

[solid hinge]

To supposedly balance

It only works when the match ends and u go to next one

Sometimes it will change u teams based on your skill

On bf4

[robust mango]

thats not true

[solid hinge]

It give u a warning in the right corner of the sreen

[obtuse glade]

It is

[gilded zenith]

because it has servers

[robust mango]

this is literally straight off the battlefield matchmaker for BF1 "Our goal of finding you a local, well-populated server wouldn’t mean much if you’re constantly on the losing team. That’s why we consider the skill level of you and your team mates to make the teams evenly matched. "

[gilded zenith]

community servers

[obtuse glade]

Yea but who uses quick match lmao

[gilded zenith]

theres no matchmaking you just join a server

[obtuse glade]

Quick match puts you into an empty lobby 9/10 times

[solid hinge]

Nabs lol xD

[robust mango]

there is SBMM in BF1 idk what you're talking about, they literally talked about it multiple times

[solid hinge]

Most times if u use quick match u will join an empty server lol

[obtuse glade]

How?

[robust mango]

it doesnt matter if you can negate it through communtiy servers

[solid hinge]

i don't remember, does bf1 have auto balance as well?

[robust mango]

the fact is that it actually exists

[robust mango]

yes

[pine cave]

Yes

[obtuse glade]

Everyone can join any dice official server

[solid hinge]

i think i remember being switched teams a couple times in bf1.

[robust mango]

i dont understand what people dont understand about this

[solid hinge]

Yeah

[robust mango]

Games can have community servers

[gilded zenith]

bf4 quickmatch usually just has 1 player who you can roadkill or knife

[robust mango]

and still have SBMM

[solid hinge]

Ir just being killed out of nowhere while doing good

Damn badmins

[robust mango]

are you about to tell me counter strike doesnt have SKBM because theres community servers?

[obtuse glade]

Dice official servers are also in the server browser where everyone can join them 👀

[robust mango]

yes and?

you can also quick match into those sames servers

BF1 and BFV average out team skill when they organize teams

[obtuse glade]

That isn’t sbmm tho

Matchmaking is in the fucking word

[robust mango]

ive joined games before where the opposite side has less people, and i still get placed on the side with more population due to the skill difference, you have to physically switch over to avoid it

Ugh you dont get it

[obtuse glade]

That isn’t sbmm

[robust mango]

the way they do SBMM

[obtuse glade]

No you don’t

[robust mango]

is not down to the individual

fine ill call it

TBMM

[obtuse glade]

That is correct

[robust mango]

Team Based Match Making, because theyre averaging out skill level for Teams

skill is still involved

[obtuse glade]

But there is no sbmm in a single battlefield games

[robust mango]

its just an average out

[obtuse glade]

Since everyone can pick the server he or she wants to join

[robust mango]

oh well guess what

https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/insider-reassures-battlefield-6-will-use-sbmm-but-better-than-in/z32c8f

im glad they still have referred to it as SBMM for BF1 and 5

[obtuse glade]

And the team balanced in 1 is shit lmao

I have won domination games 200-4

[robust mango]

either way they still refer to it as SBMM

and it will be in BF6

and it has been used even in forums about BF4 and so forth

[obtuse glade]

Well I stay by my point that it isn’t the same as sbmm

Since in cod you can’t decide to join the lobby with 10 level 0’s in it

In bf you can

[robust mango]

uhhh you can join servers on PC

you definitely could do it in modern warfare

and what i mean by MW

is not 2019

[obtuse glade]

Yea but that’s not vanilla MW

[robust mango]

and even activision employees said SBMM existed in every single cod multiplayer title pretty much

so even with cod 4 community servers

SBMM existed

[rancid lichen]

How did i get 10k company credits? I didnt even do anything i just started up

[robust mango]

year 2 catch up

[solemn dirge]

Thank you bro 🤝

[rancid lichen]

Ooooh

[obtuse glade]

Sure but in BF there isn’t

[rancid lichen]

Well ill glady take them

[obtuse glade]

@robust mango me as a 150 can join a Irish server with all people under level 20

And go 30-0

[robust mango]

doesnt detract from the fact that theres still a balancer built into the game

whether or not you can break it means nothing

[obtuse glade]

Yea but I don’t argue the fact that a balanced that looks at skill exists

But I am fighting for the fact that anyone can join any server

[robust mango]

you originally said it just doesnt have it all together, which was the entire argument from the first place. You used an absolute statement that it doesnt exist because community servers, when in fact they have implemented it for the past few titles now

[obtuse glade]

Unlike in cod

[robust mango]

thats false though because it just depends what cod

[obtuse glade]

It doesn’t have sbmm all together

[robust mango]

i can join any server i want in Cod4 and world at war

[obtuse glade]

It has a different system

[robust mango]

and be the highest prestige in the game

and shoot people that are like leve l5

[obtuse glade]

Yes you know why because the original servers aren’t run by Activision

[robust mango]

well they refer to it as SBMM, because theres no term based on TBMM

its simply just referred as SBMM

because the game is still organizing players based on skill

its just in battlefield it averages out the team

Valorant is still called SBMM even though it averages out ELO/MMR of the whole team

[obtuse glade]

Well the thing is if you get auto balanced in bf1 if you just wait 20 seconds without spawning in you can switch back lmao

[robust mango]

Counter strike still has SBMM

even tho it averages out the whole team

[ripe arch]

What the hell is SBMM

[robust mango]

yes and they removed switching over in BFV

and then people complained that they couldnt break the games balancing

[obtuse glade]

Yea you can’t play against your friends anymore

[robust mango]

skill based matchmaking

im almost betting they wont let people switch in BF6

and people will ofc cry about it

[obtuse glade]

Well rightfully so especially if you join a server with a big group of friends

[ripe arch]

Is this relevant to Battlefield? I doubt you have much choice since there's like only so many servers that's got people in it

[robust mango]

it is relevant to battlefield

since theyve literally been instituting this system for the past 2 recent titles

[obtuse glade]

Yes but not in a matchmaking way

[robust mango]

the moment you press quick match

you are using their matchmaking system

and before someone says "who presses that"

at the launch of most BF games

[obtuse glade]

Which I have done once and ended up in an empty server because no one matches my skill level

😏

[robust mango]

most people will be pressing it, and even after that BFV took forever to get custom server options

so a lot of people just clicked on the game mode they wanted

and it matchmaked you into your region officials

[fringe pine]

i hope bf 6 has fxaa too like bf1 did (or has another aa like ms or sth), taa is ass

[robust mango]

lmao dont kid yourself

we have all matchmaked into empty lobbys

it means virtually nothing

[obtuse glade]

@robust mango before BFV had custom servers they still had the server browser right?

[obtuse glade]

Ik ik lol

[robust mango]

they had the browser but it was all official

so the balance was automated

you're still connecting to a server that will sort you

because all official servers do it

[obtuse glade]

Yes ofc but a official server will not deny you acces because you are too good you get me

[robust mango]

no game does that even with SBMM

if im level 25 in a cod game and ive waited years to play

i will be placed against 4th prestige and on

[barren sail]

there seems to be confusion. Unlike other games, BF's matchmaking and its balance are two separate features.

[obtuse glade]

Exactly

[robust mango]

the game has nothing to do with levels or anything

it simply averages out people based on numbers

their W/L ratio is a big factor in SBMM

[solid hinge]

U still arguing about the matchmaker xD ?

[robust mango]

even if someone is level 500 in BF, it means nothing. all it means is theyve played the game a lot

their K/D could be .56

and their score a minute could be like 250

[ripe arch]

Wait, what's wrong with matchmaker anyway

[obtuse glade]

Well the thing is in COD CW you will never naturally end up in a server where everyone is way worse than you as in stats

[robust mango]

their level means nothing, its mostly down to W/L

[solid hinge]

I have 4k hours on battlefield does that impact in the mm ?

[robust mango]

idk about that

in all games BF, Cod or any shooter we will always have that one guy who goes 5-25

he dies a million times and barely picks up a kill

[solid hinge]

That takes away a lot fun from games lol

[obtuse glade]

Well I do if you have a 3 KD you will never play people with 1.8 or lower

[obtuse glade]

Exactly

[solid hinge]

That's my dad for you xD

[robust mango]

thats because CoD CW implemented a much more strict SBMM

that people bitched about

and the only reason it works is because the size of your average lobby

in battlefield you're averaging out 32 players

[obtuse glade]

Well MW operated the same way but a bit less extreme

[robust mango]

correct

[solid hinge]

Well if u play like me the games will be bring because u will just be matched up against try hards

[robust mango]

but again the lobby size

hell even GROUND WAR had a SBMM but it was more like battlefields

where they literally just average out the teams skill

mostly based on W/L ofc

[obtuse glade]

How you can see that SBMM doesn’t exist in BF1 is joining an Irish TDM using the kolibri and going 23-8

[solid hinge]

Ground war was copy of battlefield it even has fk choppers lol

[robust mango]

it does exist its just you joining a community server

[obtuse glade]

Nope dice official Irish TDM

[robust mango]

you know it still exists right

ive entered BFV lobbies and gone 63-6 with a type 2A, it literally means nothing

and guess what the people i stomped were 90 levels higher than me

they were all like level 140-180

and i absolutely bodied them

[obtuse glade]

Level is nothing honestly

[robust mango]

level means nothing

especially in battlefield

level is the LEAST important factor for a BF player

the only thing it does is basically tell you "well he has more access to broken weapons than a level 4"

but even in BF games, level 4s sometimes just stomp

[obtuse glade]

Yep

But team balancing is a worse way of SBMM if you want to protect worse players but more fun for better players

[robust mango]

but overall the teams have an algorithm thats used and the only reason its become popular for BF games is because clan members wont be able to just squad up and start running people over

fun fact thats also one of the reasons they apparently reduced squad size

[obtuse glade]

You can in BF1

[robust mango]

yeah i know

thats why BFV became more strict

expect BF6 to most likely be even more strict

and you can thank the people that do stuff like that

[ripe arch]

Sometime I get the feel that BF6 will fail, because there's no improvement on anti-cheat

[obtuse glade]

But that’s gonna be annoying sometimes I join a lobby with a friend and I end up in the other team in 5 I wouldn’t be able to play together

[robust mango]

every time SBMM is criticized the main criticism is "i dont want to be put into a lobby with a whole ton of try hards" and all that translates to is: "please let me crush new players, please"

the only people that actually have fun with sbmm is new players

veteran players always hate it because they never can have an easy game

[obtuse glade]

Well I think how BF1 does it is honestly fine

[robust mango]

BF1 barely does it lmao

because like you said

[obtuse glade]

Exactly

[robust mango]

you just switch the team

yeah thats not how it will be lmao

they literally dont want people having a system they can just bypass

and i dont blame them, its completely unfair and a huge turn off for new players

[obtuse glade]

@robust mango well the thing is if I play tdm with say 2 friends most good players will in fact be swapped to the other team

[robust mango]

the thing is, i dont blame new players complaints about battlefield

[obtuse glade]

So it does it’s job but the problem again is they can switch back

[robust mango]

some of the major ones are that theres too much going on and too much to basically learn when they get placed against people that have everything unlocked

i totally get why they get annoyed, and a system that makes it easier for people to enter the series is a good thing

[obtuse glade]

Also how you improve is playing against better players not players who are as good as you

We all had to learn it

[robust mango]

how you improve is also being able to learn over time

[obtuse glade]

I remember being fucking raped with the 10a as a level 20

[robust mango]

yeah we all had to learn, but both ways actually are proven to be successful

in fact its not simply "playing against better players" thats proven to not be 100% the accurate conditions

its playing against someone of better skill when you have already maintained some sort of grasp on the basics

[sour shadow]

Are we getting infos today?

[robust mango]

if you get stomped and stomped and stomped, theres no time to learn from your mistakes

this is why tutorials exist

[random blade]

maybe

[obtuse glade]

Well obviously a level 0 playing his first game is not going to learn by playing against a 150

[robust mango]

but for someone to get their feet wet, they should be playing against people their own skill

to grasp the basics

then they should be averaged in with better players

so that theres a mixture of skilled and new players

[robust mango]

this is what SBMM prevents

[obtuse glade]

I just don’t want BF to become a game where you need to reverse boost to have fun

[ripe arch]

No

[robust mango]

battlefield games deserve to be more balanced, they should never be a game where all the good players can switch teams to make one side just overbearing

[queen canopy]

Yeah, SBMM just sucks. They tried an implementation of it on Breakthrough for two weeks before shutting it down because of negative feedback.

[robust mango]

why would you need to reverse boost?

[random blade]

I’ve been in games of locker where some guy is going 100-20 or something and end up blaming the team because we’ve been pushed back to spawn

[robust mango]

if you like playing your hardest, you will be playing against people who try their hardest

[obtuse glade]

Example I am in the mood of using the kolibri but I am also and 08 tryhard

[robust mango]

the problem is the opposite attitude is also toxic

[obtuse glade]

I’ll be using the worst gun in the game against people using most likely the best one

[robust mango]

"i dont want SBMM because i just want to have a ludicrous K/D against lowbies, i dont want to have to try"

[queen canopy]

It’s a bit toxic, but overall more enjoyable for more of the community

[robust mango]

its impossible for anyone to deny going 50-0 is less fun than going 35-20

but the 35-20 game was more balanced

[obtuse glade]

If it was an absolute slug fest where both team gave their best I would enjoy that more ngl

[robust mango]

SBMM is bad, but the reasons people complain about it are completely disingenuous and its only for their own desire to feel good about their skill

[obtuse glade]

I agree

[sour shadow]

cool

[robust mango]

they will never admit that they would rather stomp lowbies into the ground rather than actually have to try against people their same skill level

[obtuse glade]

I must say killing a 150 with the kolibri nothing gives quite as much dopamine and salty messages

[raw surge]

hi

[queen canopy]

Or maybe it’s just usually unenjoyable? It basically means that anyone with a half decent score is going to have to constantly sweat their ass off to even enjoy the game. People do enjoy a challenge once in a while, but with Battlefield, most people just want to sit back and play a casual game.

[obtuse glade]

Might feel better than just going 36-0 on tdm against Jack, John and Zack

[robust mango]

the problem is if this was true though, people wouldnt get so angry in game

[barren sail]

oh god its this conversatiom

[robust mango]

SBMM would be useless if people actually just wanted to relax and play

but even by game to game chat logs we know this doesnt happen

its a constant back and forth of "oh my god my team sucks" with 2-3 people sitting on the board with a 77-20 score and +

while the rest are just playing around

every BF lobby there are always like sweating try hards

[ripe arch]

AKA 32-0 helicopter pilots

[robust mango]

that too

well tankers as well

[queen canopy]

When that happens, it’s usually just one person or two, not entire teams. If you add SBMM, that level would completely go up because everyone’s going to overall be more sweaty per lobby. When everyone’s complaining, no ones having fun.

I’d much rather have just a couple sweaty people than have just everyone be a complete sweat

[sour shadow]

Battlefield: Sea Warfare

[obtuse glade]

Ye

[robust mango]

yeah my point is they probably wouldnt even be in that lobby

if SBMM worked

[prime pine]

What they tried a few months back was terrible

[robust mango]

in theory ofc

[eager shore]

I haven't followed this conversation, but I feel that SBMM is impossible with the way Battlefield servers are set ups. As long as you have server browser, as well as Platoons and friends all wanting to play together, a perfect SBMM would not work.

[ripe arch]

What if BF6 is actually called Battlefield 2 as official title

[robust mango]

SBMM is absolutely a WASH because its never implemented right

[prime pine]

Yea unit exactly

[obtuse glade]

I just want to be able to go positive while using the kolibri 😢

[pine cave]

We need a bf game that balance vehicles and infantry

[queen canopy]

Exactly, if.

[eager shore]

The more choice you give players, the less accurate you can make SBMM. And Battlefield gives players a lot of freedom in how they play the game.

[prime pine]

Vehicles are meant to be scary against infantry.

[robust mango]

the ironic thing is, SBMM was introduced into battlefield because of too many complains of a bunch of friends that are super good squadding up and queuing in and running things over

[prime pine]

But i agree there should be some fight back, It's just annoying on both ends.

Dealing with the instant kill flieger forces fighters to play passively

[robust mango]

so all these people that do the platoon unit shit pretty much caused SBMM to be looked at

[pine cave]

Bf4 is fun. But on large conquest maps, the game can turn into War Thunder very quickly

[queen canopy]

If vehicles aren’t a threat in BF, there’s no point in having them. They question is, how do you balance that power with vulnerability?

[wicked coral]

Zoom snap is bullshit plz abolish it

[barren sail]

Case in point: https://charlieintel.com/treyarch-dev-says-all-cod-games-have-had-sbmm-says-it-can-be-tuned/62554/

[robust mango]

and thats just the thing thatve been testing

[sour shadow]

Battlefield needs more durability on vehicles, Weapon customization and epic scale

[robust mango]

@barren sail yeah i stated earlier they were in every game

but cod is not as big of a scope as BF

[prime pine]

I think black ops 2 SBMM was just based on rank which is actually decent

[wicked coral]

Stuff like soflams and javis

[eager shore]

With that said yes, there should still be some sort of balancing system. At the very least, shuffling squads random between teams might be better to prevent one team from constantly dominating.

[wicked coral]

Javi spam is Undefeated

[pine cave]

Helis and tanks mow down everything in sight, making you feel underpowered

[robust mango]

well whats funny is they actually shrunk the squads for legitimate balancing

[prime pine]

What i wouldn't mind if that the most scoring platoon gets paired up on the other side, Something along the lines of that makes sense.

Not platoon

Squad

[robust mango]

i would 100% expect 4 member squads to be in BF6 like BF5

[gray saffron]

4 makes more sense than 5 tbh

[prime pine]

Going back to 5 member squads is weird man

[queen canopy]

I think vehicle attrition is actually one of the best things they’ve done to try and balance vehicles

[robust mango]

they simply will not make it be 5 again

[lone karma]

Can't they just take K/D ratio and move squads over that have higher K/D and aim for a balanced calculated average? Combine this also with rank and you got a pretty fair system

[gray saffron]

it's a squad. not a fiver

[barren sail]

what I dont understand is why so much firepower was lumped into the anti tank class in bfv. Why give him the best weapons and most damaging gadgets in the game?

[prime pine]

What i wouldn't mind gecko is an option to fully repair your tank regardless of attrition but stock extra shells

So you have 5 shells that regen

But you can store 25 extras

[robust mango]

id like to ask the same about support in BF1

[icy sluice]

I'd like to ask why the damage dealer was also the healer in BF4

[prime pine]

Assault really isn't the best class, Even though they are powerful.

[robust mango]

this as well

[barren sail]

to get people to play healer

[prime pine]

Medic is powerful as hell too

Even suppot

[robust mango]

i never want to see assault ever again

[prime pine]

support

[queen canopy]

Yeah but then you get people reverse boosting or smurfing to dunk on people with 0.5 KDs

[gray saffron]

lol, yeah. they got all the good guns.. and the heals xd

[robust mango]

i never in my entire life want to see assault have a medkit

[static lichen]

Repair yes but the thing with the shells no. Bc of camping

[gray saffron]

assault was OP in bf4

[robust mango]

just make medic an actual fucking class

BFV had the classes perfectly imo

[barren sail]

what was annoying about assault in bf4 is that utilizing the grenade launcher handicaps you as a medic.

[robust mango]

why cant they literally split assault tho

why cant they literally just add in engineer

and make them anti tank

[prime pine]

I don't mind meic having submachine guns but wouldn't mind something that can extend the range

[robust mango]

so its Medic, Assault, Engineer, Support, Recon

[prime pine]

Support can repair vehicles which is good enough

[barren sail]

bruh just go back to 1942. Assault, medic, at, engineer, and scout

[prime pine]

And assault damages them

[ripe arch]

So Assault and Engineer both get rocket launchers?

[robust mango]

lets just assume the game is 64v64, dont we think that population is enough to have 5 classes instead of 4?

[robust mango]

no

what assault should get is access to grenade launchers

[sour shadow]

Check Game News

[barren sail]

no, older assaults had better weapons and limited gadgets

[robust mango]

since it will most likely be modern

[pine cave]

There’s nothing

[prime pine]

Weird question. Who genuinely thinks assault is "too powerful" despite the assault rifles not even being that game breaking.

[robust mango]

assault isnt even that powerful

[solid hinge]

How I can kill a camper in battlefield 3? In the map of France

[ripe arch]

So grenade launchers exclusive to Assault, how does it fare against tanks?

[barren sail]

I just find it confusing.

[robust mango]

terribly

as it would IRL

[eager shore]

I personally preferred Assaults or Supports being able to heal and revive, only because having a dedicated Medic class means they're very limited in the kinds of gadgets that match their role.

[queen canopy]

Flank them

[static lichen]

The mmg medics are the problem

[robust mango]

make the grenade launchers do literally like 6-8 damage

[prime pine]

I don't even understand the problem with assault cause you have support which has more snipey AR's and medics have the ultimate close quarter weapons.

[gray saffron]

assault is powerful due most bf4 maps inheritely are more infantry focused imo.

[icy sluice]

for Battlefield V, Assault's weapons are easy to use but considering the weapon balance of the game they're not too powerful

[prime pine]

I meant bf5

[gray saffron]

fek

[ripe arch]

So engineer gets repair tool, medic gets defib, what does assault get then?

[robust mango]

assault in BF5 isnt even broken

[gray saffron]

bf5 assault is balanced

[robust mango]

launcher different launchers, like the XM dart and shit

[prime pine]

Yeah that's exactly the thing Mac. It's powerful as hell! But so are the other classes.

[solid hinge]

Why

[static lichen]

True

[robust mango]

they have more modular devices to their guns

[lone karma]

Why don't they just make the same classes as in BF4 the 4 original classes are iconic and they work

[robust mango]

assault dont really need an anti tank gadget

[ripe arch]

Something not on the offence

[robust mango]

they can use an anti infantry gadget

[gray saffron]

assault in v is basically just jack of all trades, master of none

[prime pine]

Alright man. A guy is shooting an lmg into an open street. What is the smartest thing you can do?

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 4 is best for battlefield 3

[robust mango]

i mean theyre assault

[barren sail]

Im more confused by giving him two damage dealing gadgets.

[icy sluice]

Boom, headshot.

[robust mango]

what does assault have on BFV that isnt on the offense?

[solid hinge]

Battlefield 4 don't have campers battlefield 3 yes he have

[static lichen]

Sry I haven’t played bf4. What are the classes?

[robust mango]

nothing

[solid hinge]

😡

[robust mango]

because theyre assault

[barren sail]

dynamite

[icy sluice]

AT-Mines I believe

[prime pine]

You go around the guy and kill them that way

[robust mango]

thats offensive

literally dynamite is an offense gadget

[prime pine]

But the use of two gadgets really just compliment it. Rocket the ranged AT and sticky TNT annihilates anything close.

[lone karma]

4 loadouts, assault for healing, engineer for anti-tank and air, support for strong infantry, recon for sniper/silent play

[static lichen]

But he has a 361 field of view

[robust mango]

give assault anti infantry gadget, medic gets revive/medkit, engineer gets repair tool/rocket, support ammo etc, recon spawn point drone shit

[prime pine]

It's not like they're defenceless when you flank them

[robust mango]

assault has NO business having a medkit

[icy sluice]

That sounds like.... exactly how it works already but different names

[barren sail]

every class is weak when you sneak up behind them

[prime pine]

Yeah and again it's not like they're defenceless like i said

[eager shore]

Battlefield 4: Assault = anti infantry and infantry healing, Support = ammo and general support, Engineer = anti vehicle and vehicle healing, Recon = long range support and intel. Personally I prefer this balance over 1 and V's.

[static lichen]

Nope not a mmg medic with a 90:0 kd

[prime pine]

MMG's aren't even that good

Yeah ok you can shut down lanes

[gray saffron]

pls don't let riptor steal my tags again 😭

[sour shadow]

Battlefield new game mode: 4 Faction war (32 vs 32 vs 32 vs 32)

[prime pine]

But their other guns offer more flexibility

[barren sail]

depends on the map really.

[icy sluice]

imo a class should focus on something but not be downright better at just regular 1 to 1 combat than other classes. Different weapon types can be better for different situations of course.

MMGs can be amazing

[static lichen]

I mean the weapons of the medics which are like a mmg with 100% accurate hip fire

[lone karma]

BFV is wild dude, wtf is support with a combat role of engineer

[robust mango]

Medics in BF6 need smgs

It was the perfect weapon

It absolutely compliments the role

[lone karma]

engineer = combat role engineer dafuq

[prime pine]

They can still be beaten

Medics can be outranged easily

[queen sable]

when is bf6 dropping

[prime pine]

We don't know

[barren sail]

now

[gray saffron]

a good mmger is scary shit. he'll move place to place, suppress down angles and so on. an easy one is one that just lies prone somewhere and doesnt'move ;D

[restive stirrup]

Holiday 2021 ea said

[jade lintel]

EZ kill

[prime pine]

But not exactly wen

[gray saffron]

!!when is bf6 dropping, oh holy zeppelin?

[ruby trail]

Soon™ 😉

[icy sluice]

Support has two combat roles
One role allows it to have a better repair tool and causes stationary weapons to overheat slower
the other role allows it to be a more efficient suppressor

[jade lintel]

Soon

[prime pine]

when

[jade lintel]

And we allll know what everyone really chooses

[restive stirrup]

Soon™ 😉

[robust mango]

If they bring back engineer give them the semi auto rifles/carbines. Give assault ARs, support LMGs and shotguns and recon scope DMRs and Bolt action. Literally simple

Medics get the smgs

Done

[static lichen]

Suppression should play a bigger role

[barren sail]

the thing with assault weapons is that, while they arent better then the others, theyre a hell of a lot less situational. Its a bit weird that there is no risk involved in carrying two damage gadgets, while there is risk in picking a class to support your team.

[eager shore]

Yeah. It's one of the few classes besides Assault in which I switch between the two Roles constantly.

[midnight nova]

The next battlefield title will be revealed in the undetermined time period also know as: SOON

[gray saffron]

you know, i never wondered but does the repair tool better role also deal more damage to enemy tonks?

[robust mango]

It makes no sense to put ARs in medics hands again

[prime pine]

Side thing. Have you guys ever seen a guy on a bike drive into the part that holds the crane?

[robust mango]

It’s completely dumb they don’t need it

[jade lintel]

Yeah i think BF6 should bring back a BF4-styled engineer

[robust mango]

I have not

[gray saffron]

no

[static lichen]

Or a sniperrifle

[ripe arch]

I think we can all forget about having 5 classes, it's just not gonna happen lol

[barren sail]

y not?

[robust mango]

I just think with a larger team size

[jade lintel]

Cuz new assault has no teamwork related gadgets

[winged axle]

assault rifle = assault

[robust mango]

5 classes should be a given

[prime pine]

Vroom vroom

[jade lintel]

Old engie does

[barren sail]

hell bf2 had 7

[celest pollen]

[jade lintel]

Damn those are some nice tracers way

[icy sluice]

If you're talking about the Bolt Action Carbines, I wouldn't really call those sniper rifles

[prime pine]

It's because i'm using the Armour piercer rounds

Completely negate armoured insert

[gray saffron]

where's the crane? and why you firing first, you gotta wait till they fire at you as police D:

[robust mango]

It’s just absolutely SAD that we wouldn’t get 5 classes when the size of battlefield is going to be the biggest it’s ever been

[barren sail]

anythings a sniper rifle if youre cool enough

[prime pine]

You know the part that holds the crane up? The bike drove into that

The driver left the passenger as they were and drove into it

[barren sail]

they seemed to attempt more classes with the cut combat roles feature in BFV, so theyre thinking about it. Assault actually was split up between AT and AP at one point

[jade lintel]

Snipers with extra steps

[jade lintel]

Ok

[gray saffron]

oohhh okay

[jade lintel]

They look super cool

[prime pine]

Light infantry is superior is vehicle buster

[trim aspen]

Hey guys, does any of you know the name of leaker who posted the 2 famous BF4 pics one day before reveal?

[prime pine]

Because you can heal more health and scavenge more ammo

[icy sluice]

Vehicle Buster allows planes and other players to see and help better

[restive stirrup]

tf is this

[eager shore]

Yeah, I want to let my teammates know that there's a damn tank near them.

[robust mango]

Well there was a leak about sub classes so maybe

[prime pine]

A guy being abandoned in the bike right as it steers into the crane anchor

[icy sluice]

Wait so the bike cause the crane to come down lmao

[restive stirrup]

I mean like what game

hardline?

[prime pine]

Battlefield hardline

[icy sluice]

Hardline had pretty good levolution

[jade lintel]

Yeah

[prime pine]

It can take advantage of the FPS Boost as well

Which is awesome

[jade lintel]

I didnt know that

[scenic tide]

Why is bf3 multiplayer broken on xbox for me? It says i dont have the good rights to acces battlelog and online or something like that

[robust mango]

In some ways hardline wasn’t that bad

I think the real hatred for hardline

Was literally from people who were obsessed with vehicles

[icy sluice]

Main reason why it didn't do good is that it wasn't military

[robust mango]

Because there was so super Arsenal of powerful vehicles

Honestly I think battlefield could do a non military theme and be successful

[icy sluice]

Every reviewer seemed to hammer down "You're just cops and crooks, not big military super soldiers"

[robust mango]

It just depends what it is

[jade lintel]

Yeah

[robust mango]

I still think like a western battlefield game could be successful

[scenic tide]

Mmm

[jade lintel]

And most players were just like: HURR DURR GEAM BADE BECAUSE POLEECE HEHE GRUG SMORT

[scenic tide]

Not sure

[robust mango]

Especially if it’s late western era

And then make it a fantasy war

Because even guns like the ones hunt showdown has

Show just how creative you can be

[icy sluice]

Oh yeah Hardline was the only recent Battlefield to have CTF

[eager shore]

It's a shame because Hardline was very creative and spiced up the Battlefield formula.

[gray saffron]

yeah, it need an entirely new seperate name tbh. battlefield is too engrained with that it's a miltiary shooter

[robust mango]

Idk why people are obsessed with the whole fact that you’re a military guy in BF games, is it really that important?

[jade lintel]

I think CTF is the only DLC gamemode in BF4 i've seen with a full server.

[icy sluice]

I actually played Hardline CTF and it was pretty fun and some of the most fun I've had in a modern Battlefield game (BF3/BF4)

[ripe arch]

Probably, yeah, since it's Battlefield

As in a battlefield

Hardline was strange, when's the last time cops and criminals went against each other and had hundreds die in one night?

[robust mango]

Yeah but a battlefield doesn’t need to be done by military only

Well battlefield isn’t realism

[ripe arch]

Then what then?

[robust mango]

When’s the last time we fought China in 2020

And also combating Russia in the modern era

Like in terms of realism it doesn’t matter if cops and robbers ever had an all out battle

[scenic tide]

The thing i hate so much on bf4 is that they made the aa gun at the spawn automatic..... i think it would be pretty cool to use But i also understand that it’s annoying if someone just stays camping at the aa gun on the spawn

[robust mango]

Hardline itself was mostly about drug trafficking too and corruption

And cartel members have shootouts with cops all the time

[ripe arch]

US vs China war is a possible thing one can graps their mind on, however, cops and criminals killing each other in a city setting isn't

[robust mango]

Los zetas

A literal cartel that has tanks

Helicopters

[ripe arch]

I doubt organised crimes even have a gathering as large as 32

[robust mango]

Access to .50 cal machine guns and armored APCs

Okay that’s definitely not true lmao

There have been mob meetings with more than 100 associates

[ripe arch]

And if you've done your homework, you'd realise they don't do that anymore because of raids

[robust mango]

And joint cartel operations that crush entire governments

That’s why I said”

“There have been”

[ripe arch]

So let me get this straight, you want Battlefield Hardline 2?

[robust mango]

No

What I’m saying is, it’s not like the believability of it should matter

Literally no battlefield is believable

Every single instance of how the game plays and everything is completely unrealistic

Part of the charm is that it’s just good fun

[ripe arch]

So what setting do you want beside military?

[gilded zenith]

battlefield was never meant to be realistic

[robust mango]

I’m just saying it could literally be anything. Like I said I’d love a western battlefield game. Fictional battles with separate factions and weapons

[ripe arch]

You mean like... American Civil War?

Lol

[scenic tide]

How do i get veteran rewards on bf5?? And bf4??? I played bf3 and bf hardline both but i dont get the veteran case in bf4 and dont get the 2 veteran reward skins in bf5 .... how do. I get it? I’m playing on xbox one x

[robust mango]

Native American faction would have some cool melee options, you’d have the Mexican army etc a ton of stuff

No it can be late western fantasy

[prime pine]

Not sure Xproto. That's weird.

[robust mango]

1890-1900 the end of the western frontier

You’d had an array of lever actions and basically early pre WW1 rifles

[radiant willow]

That would be neat

[robust mango]

Revolvers

How’s

Bows*

Slings, boalas, slings, shotguns, axes

[scenic tide]

Yeah im pretty sad because i really wanted those skins in bf5....

[prime pine]

Ohhhh skins

[ripe arch]

It wouldn't appeal to me personally but it sounds neat, it will welcome lot of Red Dead fans for sure

[scenic tide]

Yeah the skins Where u can choose 2 skins of the 5 as veteran reward

[robust mango]

Oh yeah red dead fans would like it

Obviously yeah it’s not for everyone

[prime pine]

You got one of them through the road to bf5 thing, One of them for buying the game and the rest in part of delxue edition.

Weird

[robust mango]

Just that BF could still probably be successful doing some fantasy time period stuff

Within reason

Obviously we won’t see like a crusades battlefield game

With swords

[scenic tide]

Hmmm which rank i need to be to get one skin? And I bought bf5 standard edition on my xbox but i have never got a skin

Weird

[prime pine]

I'm honestly not sure how it goes really

[scenic tide]

Oh ok...... i really wanted the skins because i cant buy those cool skins and awesome tank skins and stuff because i cant buy those b coins on bf5

So that sucks lol😓👀

[robust mango]

I’m gonna say it

[scenic tide]

?

[robust mango]

I hope to see elite skins in BF6 but only make them for like battlepass rewards at the end

Like the last unlock

Because we know by now there will be a battlepass of some kind

[main ermine]

[ripe arch]

I wish they can do full outfits for BF6 instead of individual clothing

[main ermine]

First thing is finding those eastereggs

[robust mango]

I’m just really hoping for that type of stuff

Costumes and more cosmetic options

[scenic tide]

Hmmm i dont want a paid battlepass system in bf6. Not like in fortnite because for people like me who dont have the money to buy battlepasses and stuff it would be so unfair I wanna see just weekly challenges to unlock stuff

[main ermine]

Another riddle ála Phantom Project

[robust mango]

If they have a lot of focus on you playing 1 soldier

Then let us really customize the person

Like their face and such

Instead of just presets

[main ermine]

Char creator

Less go

[scenic tide]

A silver battlepass gold battlepass that stuff would ruin it i think I dont want a system that forces u to pay in order to get some cool skins or stuff....

[main ermine]

Free battlepass to motivate players

[scenic tide]

But a system to unlock stuff by ranking up and completing challenges would be great

[main ermine]

Not ea style but that would work and wont make anyone mad about it

[ripe arch]

If the rewards are purely cosmetic, then I think it's fair

[main ermine]

Cosmetics only would be fine

[icy sluice]

Mixing and matching kinda gives more of an appeal to get the cosmetics

[main ermine]

Anything else is kinda sus

[half widget]

guys is BF6 actually gonna be modern times?

[scenic tide]

Only if after a season or something like that people who didnt buy the battlepass also can unlock the stuff by completing challenges or something

[robust mango]

I could seem them definitely have the premium battlefield system being incorporated into battlepass

[main ermine]

Chances are high

[half widget]

[ripe arch]

The only thing I don't want BF6 to have in terms of monetization are exclusive maps, not because I don't want to pay, but rather how these maps die out very quick

[robust mango]

Like premium has been getting stale

[gilded zenith]

thats what everyone wants but nobody knows

[scenic tide]

No paying people only get cool cosmetics system

[tardy hound]

Battlefield 1 in asia is confirmed dead

[robust mango]

Just make maps available to everyone

[half widget]

That's an easy pre-order for me if it's modern, BF4 is my favorite of them all

[robust mango]

And then make Bf premium the battlepass

[scenic tide]

Lol

[eager shore]

I'd take everything with a grain of salt until the actual reveal happens. Just my advice after seeing so many people disappointed in reveals for other games.

[half widget]

True

[wheat badge]

Not true

[robust mango]

The only skin I care about in BFV I earned

Never had to pay a dime

[proven charm]

I like the sanitater medic outfit

[eager shore]

Yeah. Some of the best skins are earned with in-game currency.

[robust mango]

I just like playing as misaki

[jade lintel]

ze sanitater

[proven charm]

it's a pre order exclusive and its great

[main ermine]

Thats why i only said "the chances"