battlefield-legacy-titles

[tough kayak]

i’d rather not have a money unlock system tho

[robust mango]

That’s the only good way to handle weapon unlocks

[trim aspen]

Changing barrel length, magazine, stock, grip, front grip, muzzle device, rails attachment

[robust mango]

I wouldn’t either but the money was so low

[trim aspen]

and so on

[robust mango]

Just make the money unlock guns and not attachments or specializations

[trim aspen]

I would tbh

[wet fossil]

Attachment systems create metas.

Metas mean boredom

[robust mango]

They’re going to have attachments

[sour shadow]

activision canceled cod this year and now 7-8 studios working on new cod

[trim aspen]

Not really

[tough kayak]

and no cosmetics that don’t affect anything pls

[trim aspen]

weapons balance create metas

[robust mango]

He’s right actually

[deft hollow]

so does playing with a gun that has the same attachments over and over. Fun fact: if you're good you'll do well even with off meta builds in Battlefield

[robust mango]

Tell me one build in BF4 for ARs that didn’t consist of Foregrip, COYOTE ADS and HEAVY BARREL

[solid hinge]

Well doing all that wont make a difference m4 in mw is basically m16 mod but dont fire like it

Its like ar15

[trim aspen]

Well metas are gonna exist either way, because people are always gonna find a weapon that is more good over another

so it doesn't really matter either way

[robust mango]

Every single person used a heavy barrel in BF4

Every single one

[tough kayak]

huh? they literally gave u decent guns right at the start of the unlock tree eg ak12 aek the first sniper u got

[robust mango]

Every single death I’ve incurred from BF4-99% of them had a heavy barrel

[trim aspen]

I mean, it's the nicest attachment we can get lol

[solid hinge]

Meta exists cause of unbalanced weapons

[robust mango]

That is irrelevant to my point

[trim aspen]

that's what I said

[robust mango]

I said there was too many locked weapons

[proven charm]

heavy barrel was nice, maybe consider that?

[robust mango]

Not that I started with shit

[tough kayak]

oh no i liked it meant u didn’t die to the same gun over and over

[robust mango]

Not the point

[solid hinge]

Bf6 should have balance

[tough kayak]

varietion

[proven charm]

I personally didn't even go for accessories or barrel attachments on Ar's

[robust mango]

The point is about creating a pool of tools and making those attachments all viable to use in situational engagements

Not every single engagement should call for a heavy barrel

[trim aspen]

Imagine having a FPS that doesn't offer attachments for weapons

Besides arena shooters

[robust mango]

But it was so overwhelmingly good it was always used

People are just pointing out that repetitive weapon and attachment usage is boring and repetitive

[trim aspen]

Well that depends on what the game offers

[robust mango]

Why should dice go through the work of releasing 50 different fire arms if 5 of them are used

[tough kayak]

you would see a lot more variation of weapons in bf4 than in 1 or V tho

[solid hinge]

Common attachments for m16 are nade launcher and weapon sights and compensator

[robust mango]

Debatable

[deft hollow]

to be honest BF4 had a decent gun variation towards the end of its life cycle IMO

[solid hinge]

Heavy mag

[trim aspen]

Also the heavy barrel attachment isn't like one of the first things you unlock in BF4 for guns? no wonder it's the most used

[robust mango]

At least in BF1 and BFV i see people utilize a ton of different weapons playing the same role as me

In BF4 I see AEK, SPAS 12, M416 90% of the time

[trim aspen]

^^

[deft hollow]

in BFV I'm an STG whore

[sour shadow]

Battlefield 6 destruction will not scripted i think

[trim aspen]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

[robust mango]

BF4 had a huge centered meta

[trim aspen]

TYPE 2A GOES

[proven charm]

bf4 is more varied xd

[trim aspen]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[proven charm]

atleast on xbox

[robust mango]

Nerfed YOURE way late

[proven charm]

on pc have fun with your sweats

[trim aspen]

No

Lol

[robust mango]

I can already tell you haven’t played BFV in ages

[trim aspen]

it's still used by the sweats

[tough kayak]

eh would also see f2000 mtar acwr mpx all the lmgs different snipers and a lot more

[robust mango]

The ZK and suomi are used more right now

[robust mango]

bulldog

[tough kayak]

i think so yeah

[deft hollow]

in my experience on pc it gets used by people who can't aim, mostly lol but yeah, lots still use it

[robust mango]

BF4 was not more varied

[solid hinge]

Aek best used in cqb,sqas is human body killing machine 12g and m416 its good but not that good

[robust mango]

It just had more weapons

[proven charm]

lol

[deft hollow]

in BF4 on the other hand I remember people using the SCAR, AEK, M16, ACE, CZ and so on

it had a decent enough variation IMO

[robust mango]

But people just used a very specific table of weapons and then used the same attachments

[white owl]

A foolish man complains of his torn pocket while a wise man uses it to scratch his balls

[robust mango]

I still see myself getting killed by many different weapons in BF1 and V

1 more so than V

[tough kayak]

you’d always get sweats that use the same thing aek ace 23 acwr but then you’d see a lot more as well still i think it was more varied

[robust mango]

The only class that spams the same weapon

Is support

[solid hinge]

Ace has great fire rate with good range

[robust mango]

Lewis gun 24/7

[proven charm]

literally who gives a fuck about what people use lolmaokek

[deft hollow]

as confucius once said, “It is only when mosquito land on your balls that you realize there is a way to solve problems without using violence.”

[robust mango]

A lot of people do

[proven charm]

just use something different and don't mind what others use

[white owl]

indeed fellow wise man

[robust mango]

It’s the same complaint people had in MW2019

[proven charm]

its as easy as pie

[robust mango]

With the XM4

[tough kayak]

the class’s were best aligned in bf4 i think as well you’d still see people using all 4 rather than just 2

[robust mango]

Well it’s different twee when one person can use a gun and run anyone over in a duel

And you want to use something but it’s shit

Because dice forgot to balance the actual weapon

[solid hinge]

I use m4 and destroy

[robust mango]

If you just make weapons closer in their accessibility it allows people to just pick what they want

Instead of making 1 weapon better than 30 others

[trim aspen]

^^

[solid hinge]

I use m16a4 and m4

[deft hollow]

what's your platform? I played both BF4 and BF1 on ps4 and BFV on pc so the meta might be different on each platform

[robust mango]

But I expect that people who like modern battlefield games don’t really give a shit because their favorite weapons are the most broken ones anyways

[robust mango]

PC

[trim aspen]

People that don't want to use the meta would still be able to use another gun with all the attachments they like, if given that possibility

[solid hinge]

Watch my youtube videos i rekt people with m4 😁

[novel light]

The curious thing is, people often don't pick the actual best weapon when it comes to most popular ones

[proven charm]

there are literally 0 broken weapons in bf4

[robust mango]

PC type 2A I still use but it is not full blown meta. ZK is used far more

AHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[trim aspen]

^^

[novel light]

In fact, sometimes they even use what is an actually weak weapon

[robust mango]

“There are no unbalanced weapons in BF4”

[novel light]

cough Hellriegel

[trim aspen]

Wellgun

for some reason

[robust mango]

That’s why community servers literally BAN SPECIFIC GUNS IN BF4

[tough kayak]

i found xbox and pc play style for bf4 to be quite different more variation on xbox but you’d still see zouzou and vouzou’s

[novel light]

I've seen, like, one Welgun in last week and a half

[trim aspen]

Really?

[proven charm]

[trim aspen]

People are sleeping on it

[sour shadow]

კაით ჯო და

[proven charm]

its becuase they're spammed

not because they're op

[novel light]

I mostly see Type 100 or 2A

[solid hinge]

They ban it cause they cant handle it

[robust mango]

Spammed because they’re broken

[novel light]

ZK 3rd, Grease Gun 4th

[proven charm]

spammed becuase they're powerful

[trim aspen]

I've seen around 5-6 in these recent days

[proven charm]

[robust mango]

Why else would a person spam a weapon

If it wasn’t broken

[edgy cairn]

Aek spam 😔

[novel light]

Because they're comfortable with it

[robust mango]

powerful above all others means balanced

What?

[radiant granite]

Hey, is it allowed to post battlefield montages here?

[novel light]

I normally main weapons that hardly qualify as meta

[robust mango]

it’s so powerful the gun is banned but that just means it’s not broken

[deft hollow]

I played bfv on ps4 at first and I noticed that people on pc don't slide jump as much as they do on ps4, but then again I'm a sweat so I slide 90% of the time

[solid hinge]

Why would i get kicked using igla when chopper dude going 60 and 0 killing me

[novel light]

As they fit my personal style the most

[celest pollen]

yes in #streams-and-videos

[trim aspen]

probably more in #screenshots-and-clips ? idk

[proven charm]

Powerful =/= broken

[celest pollen]

@novel light wrong ping lmfao

sorry

[tough kayak]

reckon people will find things like vouzou and zouzou jumps for bf6?

[novel light]

No worries

[proven charm]

what really is broken is something that can't be countered at all

[trim aspen]

In Bf4 I only used the ARX-160 which is way too far from being meta lol

[wet fossil]

Because that asshole in the chopper's probably the server owner

[robust mango]

Any gun is powerful because it can kill you

[proven charm]

something.. like the g3a3 with heavy barrel and dart

[novel light]

160, was, like, dead average

[robust mango]

Guns that are the most powerful above all else

And are the only most efficient pick and can’t be contested

Are broken

[wet fossil]

Take it from me, anyone who discourages SAM usage is a pilot main

[edgy cairn]

The only gun I want in bf6 is the L85

[tough kayak]

people really don’t like lock on’s i don’t either and u probably killed a salty admin

[solid hinge]

7.62mm nato round gun is the best

[sour stratus]

Every gun can be powerful if you know how to use it

[proven charm]

And there literally are none..?

[trim aspen]

Hey I was pretty good with it ok? :'(

[robust mango]

All I can think of twee is how you use a spas 12 with slugs. I just know you love to use those types of weapons

[proven charm]

AEK = counter with shotgun or as val

[novel light]

I'm not saying it's a bad pick

[trim aspen]

Agreed, but that's the ARX-200

[proven charm]

What.

[novel light]

in the end, it's a matter of comfort

[proven charm]

Are you drunk?

[robust mango]

Who fires at someone within shotgun range with an AEK

[trim aspen]

yes I know ahah

[novel light]

For example, in BF3 I loved the Bizon

[edgy cairn]

Bf4 m1014 with slugs sounds so cool and it also slaps

[robust mango]

You shoot people at 40m at least with a AEK

[novel light]

Even though it was mostly a downgrade vs P90

[sour stratus]

Slug ammo is fun

[trim aspen]

Damn the Bizon is in BF3?

[edgy cairn]

Mp7

[tough kayak]

don’t give in to the shotguns

[robust mango]

Well the DMRs in BF4 are pretty busted as well

[edgy cairn]

You can’t stop me

[novel light]

Came with Back to Karkand, it's called PP-19 there

[trim aspen]

I actually regret never playing BF3

[tough kayak]

3 spam shots and you’re sorted lol

[robust mango]

https://gamerant.com/battlefield-overpowered-weapons-every-game/

[trim aspen]

I regret not abusing of the Amazon Offer where they gave it away for free in December

[sour shadow]

someone drop the beat

[trim aspen]

But I was lazy and didn't want to make an amazon account for it

[deft hollow]

I'm surprised people don't use the m1a1 in bfv more, thing shreds if you have a trigger finger

[robust mango]

oh look they list the ACWR and the AN94 too here

[tough kayak]

watch me

[lone karma]

AN94 is so good

MP7 is OP too

[novel light]

Personally... I don't think BF4 weapons were that balanced, but the differences weren't big enough to leave you at major disadvantage you couldn't bridge with your own competence

[sour shadow]

i using m4ai

[novel light]

If that makes sense

[ripe arch]

ACW-R is garb in BF4 but that's just my opinion

[tough kayak]

acwr was good that was my main gun

[sour shadow]

and i love it

[proven charm]

Yeah, but it's a peashooter that just shoots fast

[tough kayak]

huh?? it’s sick mate

[proven charm]

It's god tier

[ripe arch]

Shitty accuracy, shitty recoil, shitty range, I don't see any merits

[trim aspen]

That's the whole point of the Bizon

[novel light]

ACW-R is solid

[proven charm]

fast reload with a big mag and blazing fast rof

[robust mango]

God tier ( OP)

[edgy cairn]

Dmr spam on locker

[novel light]

Probably top 3-4 in the class

I liked the MPX more

[lone karma]

Maybe you have trash aim

[tough kayak]

close range fire rate decent damage easy to control recoil

[novel light]

Also, sneaky good gun in BF4

[proven charm]

Did you enjoy the AS VAL then?

[novel light]

That actually was utter weak sauce and then got a juicy buff

[edgy cairn]

🤢

[novel light]

JS2

[robust mango]

im happy they put the Zh29 as the most broken gun in BFV because theyre absolutely right, that gun is horrendously overpowered

[proven charm]

AS VAL is my most used in bf4 and rightfully so

thing shreds

[novel light]

I didn't use it much, as it wasn't compatible with flares

[lone karma]

MPX is pretty good too

[proven charm]

I remember it having a 50 + 1 mag

[tough kayak]

but the small mag got annoying :/ constantly reloading

[proven charm]

pretty busted

[gilded zenith]

I like the mpx on bf3

[edgy cairn]

I just main the l85 for range

[ripe arch]

No, I just enjoy HK416 better, or AUGA3

[robust mango]

busted = overpowered

[novel light]

It initially had weak sauce damage output though

[trim aspen]

I actually sucked a lot with that gun

[gilded zenith]

It has a pretty low mag but its fun

[trim aspen]

But then I learnt how to tap fire

[lone karma]

I'll try them

[proven charm]

leave me alone lolmao

[novel light]

It only really got up there with the best in class after a really substantial buff

[tough kayak]

g18 spam was a little bad but any of the one headshot things like deagals could counter

[proven charm]

stop trying to start shit

[trim aspen]

and got a little good with it

[robust mango]

Not trying to start anything

[novel light]

Tbh

[robust mango]

Im just keeping you to your word

[proven charm]

Yet you've done it for days on end

[novel light]

I like 93R over G18 by a mile

[robust mango]

thats not true tbh

you usually ping me first

[proven charm]

Since you've joined, you've only started arguments ontop of arguments

[robust mango]

half the time im not even talking to you

and i didnt join days ago

[hidden cape]

whats happening rn

[robust mango]

ive been in here for years

[novel light]

Easier ammo management and slight accuracy edge while still packing a wallop

[trim aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-itsfine-burning-flame-my-life-going-so-far-gif-5182223

[deft hollow]

watching the BF6 trailer

[tough kayak]

that was good but never liked it for some reason just felt a little weird

[proven charm]

the 93r is basically a sniper g18

[robust mango]

i was in here before way was even a moderator

[novel light]

It's down to one's personal level of comfort with burst weapons in general

[proven charm]

sniper in g18 standards of course

since the g18 can't hit anything past 15 metres

[wet fossil]

I think one thing that V was missing was being able to know what specs and sights the other guy was using

[sour shadow]

who was very hyped when battlefield tweeted reveal soon

[novel light]

Burst firing throws many people off mechanically and it's tough to blame them as number of burst fire options always was very limited

[tough kayak]

yeah i remember the m16a4 always jammed/didn’t fire if u didn’t get the timing right of firing

[robust mango]

i think thats a good thing though

[wet fossil]

Seriously I want to be impressed that the guy all the way over there landed that shot with irons

[robust mango]

prevents people from just copying what the other guy is carrying

[trim aspen]

I mean....there are like 3 attachments so there's no point really lol

[novel light]

KH2002 in BF3 was quite something

[tough kayak]

they could be op when used rigjt tho like the m16

[proven charm]

Oh dear lord..

not the kh2002

[trim aspen]

Anyone ever used the f2000 in BF4?

[novel light]

It was extremely obscure

[tough kayak]

yeah it’s sick

[proven charm]

more than obscure

[tough kayak]

really like it

[trim aspen]

😎

[proven charm]

there's no word for it

[novel light]

But yeah, once you got to grips with it, enemies would suffer

[tough kayak]

and the 1.6 sight is interesting...

[proven charm]

it's just.. meh

[solid hinge]

Good night guys

[proven charm]

night

[novel light]

Night

[solid hinge]

🙂

[sour shadow]

good morning guys

[round abyss]

guys

[novel light]

It dished out massive damage and actually had fairly solid ranged performance

[trim aspen]

night

[round abyss]

are we talking about bf new pics or nah?

[trim aspen]

morning

[proven charm]

One gun I loved though was the g3a3

[solid hinge]

Good for you

[tough kayak]

mtar and mpx were solid choices as well

[trim aspen]

https://c.tenor.com/TSCPeQv-O0sAAAAM/good-morning-good-morning-gandalf.gif

[sour shadow]

good night for u man

[proven charm]

G3A3 shredded in any viable range

I loved it

[trim aspen]

yeah but to be fair I mostly used the P2000 and the XM4 for engineer

[novel light]

I unlocked G3 so late

[proven charm]

But it's replacements (bulldog and scar-h) in bf4 weren't as good tbh

[novel light]

I just couldn't be bothered to farm co-op

[proven charm]

bf3 co-op is great bar the random knife attacks

[tough kayak]

anyone remember the tracking dart gun from bf2 that rpg’s could lock onto lmao

[deft hollow]

bc2

[novel light]

It was good, but unlock points weren't really aligned with what you got from campaign

[trim aspen]

there's a co-op in bf3?

[novel light]

So afterwards you still had to farm one of missions multiple times to get to all unlocks

[deft hollow]

Trevor Noah played coop in BF1 as well

[proven charm]

indeed there is

[round abyss]

terry crews was the man tho

[trim aspen]

What

[novel light]

Yes, and some weapons are unlocked by playing it

[trim aspen]

even in Bf1?

[round abyss]

terry loved the game so much, he played it with connan too

[tough kayak]

c-100 and all the bff’s easter eggs were cool as wel

[proven charm]

you got the 93r, kh2002, g3a3 and mp7 from it iirc

correct me if im wrong

[trim aspen]

How was that gamemode called?

[novel light]

I think the Rex too?

Need to check

[proven charm]

oh yes, rex

first unlock

[deft hollow]

no, it was a joke, trevor noah during the bfv reveal said he loved coop in bf1 despite coop not being a thing

[trim aspen]

I was pretty good with the rex

[robust mango]

if they make a campaign in bf6 please dont make us play the game to unlock the weapons in multiplayer, thats just cruel

[deft hollow]

bf4 nightmares

[trim aspen]

Oh, oof

[novel light]

Rex was slightly better at CQC Magnum, kinda

[round abyss]

agreed

[robust mango]

exactly

its bad enough battlefield hasnt had a good campaign in years

[tough kayak]

bf4 where i wished i could kill all 3 of those guys at once

[proven charm]

I loved it but much prefer the MP443 TAC

[deft hollow]

having to play that shitty last mission three times in a row..oof

[round abyss]

bf1 was decent, i loved the war stories

[trim aspen]

But I loved BF1 stories of war

[robust mango]

it was OK

it was really nothing super special

[novel light]

I didn't really had a sidearm I loved

[round abyss]

it was pretty good lets not lie

[tough kayak]

pain

[trim aspen]

And BF4 was alright despite not knowing all the stuff that came previously lol

[deft hollow]

war stories were extremely mediocre if you ask me

[reef mountain]

The bad company story's was amazing

[novel light]

I just don't defer to sidearms unless I really bottle it

[deft hollow]

cool ideas but they were forgettable

[robust mango]

BF3 and BF4 had mediocre stories

[proven charm]

I love the idea of sidearms

[novel light]

BF3 story was okay...

[deft hollow]

BF3 had the last somewhat decent campaign, and to be honest decent is a stretch

[novel light]

...but the QTEs

[trim aspen]

I mean, I enjoyed it, sure it wasn't "Halo 3 level" but it wasn't bad

[tough kayak]

older campaigns were wayyy better

[novel light]

BF4, meh

[robust mango]

BF hardline actually had a pretty decent story even as predictable as it was, but damn its like they spent most of their time on the story

[novel light]

BF1, I enjoyed that campaign

[tough kayak]

they kinda dropped off for 3 and 4

[round abyss]

i loved the tank mission in bf1

[novel light]

V, depends on story

The Last Tiger was great

[robust mango]

last tiger was the best mission in BFV

[novel light]

Tirailleur was very good

[tough kayak]

i don’t think i even bothered to play hard lines campaign

[robust mango]

it was good

[proven charm]

the last tiger was g o d tier

[robust mango]

it was just a 1980's cop movie

[tough kayak]

ahhh

[deft hollow]

only thing I remember about BF4's campaign is the beanie dude getting close to cheating on his wife and that's it

[round abyss]

the landships in bf1 had so much weight in them, it felt so good to drive

[reef mountain]

Bad company 1 and 2 I feel had the best story

[round abyss]

also, the shellshocked guy was realistic

[sour shadow]

bad company is best on campaing side

[deft hollow]

and the only reason I remember the beanie dude is omar little

[proven charm]

the st chamond and putilov garford in bf1 were my favourite land vehicles in the franchise

[robust mango]

bad company had the good campaigns for battlefield

[round abyss]

i give you props for driving putilov

i drove it too, but it was a pain in the

[robust mango]

they should have made every single battlefield campaign in the same vain as bad company

[round abyss]

i couldnt drive it normally so i went inverted

[robust mango]

just a band of brothers esque banter dialogue game with a stupid kinda story

[tough kayak]

they were goated

[proven charm]

putilov is a pain in the ass to get used to but dear christ above was it powerful

[deft hollow]

lmao I remember driving it for the first time and getting stuck in a trench because I hadn't realized the gun was on its rear

[trim aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-dance-orange-justice-gif-13312911

[round abyss]

it was powerful but light tank was busted too

the howitzer on the light tank was GOD TIER

[proven charm]

light tank oh no

at launch it was uh

broken af

[round abyss]

on amiens you literally are a blockbuster

[deft hollow]

does anyone remember the fighter pre-nerf? that thing literally destroyed infantry

[proven charm]

so were cavalry

[round abyss]

man the attack and fighter planes are so hard to use

the fighter is good for planes its easy, but the attack god knows how to use it good

[novel light]

Me trying to download a game with my connection

[deft hollow]

I started using them shortly after the game got released so I got good at them and boy were planes good in BF1

it's the only bf where I used vehicles a lot

[tough kayak]

for bf4? i learnt how to jdam helis lol

[round abyss]

bf1

[deft hollow]

since I usually play as infantry

[round abyss]

i played bf4 for less than 50 hours, got tired from LAVs

after bf1, going to bf4 vehicles is hard man

[sly depot]

well u can uninstall the game 😄

[round abyss]

im pretty good on the gunplay but i uninstalled for the present

[sly depot]

cmon whers the fun innit luv?

[round abyss]

how do people use the mp7 in bf4?

its unplayable lol

[gentle venture]

I always thought vehicles were much harder to counter in bf1

[sly depot]

by using the mp7 in bf4

[round abyss]

i got 800 hours in bf1, as an assault i literally hunt tanks lol

dynamite, light anti tank nade, anti tank grenade pack

and its boom boom

[round abyss]

no way

[gentle venture]

I cant stand the fucking ricochet mechanic

[sly depot]

i hunt everything :3

[gentle venture]

Think that was the dumbest thing ever introduced

[tough kayak]

you’re missing out if you didn’t play bc2 bf3 and bf4 and only play 1 and V give them some time

[round abyss]

the ricochet is hard but mostly for rocket gun

[tough kayak]

still servers and some of the best modern shooters of the decade

[round abyss]

i played bf3, i loved it

because it didnt have LAVs ahahahaha

[gentle venture]

Vehicles are on par in 3 and 4 I think

There were LAVs

[sour shadow]

i also playing bf 2 man good days

[round abyss]

not on the maps i played

[gentle venture]

They were on like 75% of the maps I'd say

[round abyss]

it had fewer no?

[sly depot]

oh yesh i love bf2 and bf2mc

[gentle venture]

Nope

Probably about in the same capacity as bf4

[round abyss]

i usually played on the container map

and metro

[tough kayak]

depends what map u were on

[round abyss]

so no lavs for me

[sour shadow]

guys do u remembered battlefield play 4 free

[round abyss]

heroes?

[sour shadow]

no

[jagged basin]

Free speech was a mistake

Trust me bro

[tough kayak]

bf4 is free on xbox rn if u got game pass

[gentle venture]

Container map in all game modes (except tdm) had LAVs I'm pretty sure

[sour shadow]

no no

[gentle venture]

Noshahr canals

[sour shadow]

its not battlefield 4

[tough kayak]

ohh

[sour shadow]

it was battlefield 2 online but name was battlefield play4free

[round abyss]

i wish the mobile game EA is developing to look like heroes 😮

[tough kayak]

miss read that lol

and i’m not sure how i feel about this mobile game

[sour shadow]

actually it will be like a cod

mobile

[round abyss]

battlefield heroes was on paar if not better than team fortress

and way ahead of fortnite

[tough kayak]

how u gonna be flying helis and using tows on mobile tho lol

if it’s gonna be modern setting for the mobile

[round abyss]

my first bf game

yea ik, let a man dream tho

[sour shadow]

they said its will be different game from pc

version

[tough kayak]

yeah

are they gonna try to do BR for 6 again or they dropping it?

[sour shadow]

destruction will not feature on mobile version

[sour shadow]

man

[robust mango]

If they do a BR

It won’t be at release

[sour shadow]

battlefield 6 need BR

[robust mango]

It will be like warzone and they release it 2022

Honestly I don’t really want a BF BR

[tough kayak]

same

[robust mango]

It’s just not the type of game for a BR

[tough kayak]

wasn’t a fan of firestorm rlly

[robust mango]

It just doesn’t fit

[sour shadow]

but lot of people start with bf br

[round abyss]

i wouldnt mind a br

if it didnt affect the base game

[tough kayak]

maybe they’ll just update firestorm to fit with 6

[robust mango]

And if they make the mistake of balancing the weapons off of warzone like call of duty does it will be a nightmare and effect the health of the standard game

[round abyss]

and DLCs

[tough kayak]

like cod did with warzone

[sly depot]

geez i hate cod now

[robust mango]

Any changes they do to warzone weapons will most likely just carry over

[sour shadow]

because from 2017 BR feauture of games is best mode which ones succesed

and bf br will be great

[round abyss]

cod not having levolution, big penetration and explosions kinda sucks

[robust mango]

In Warzone, the nerfs they look for are on OP warzone weapons and then it ruins the actual health of standard multiplayer

[round abyss]

BF is king certainly

[meager harness]

They just need to put BR for free

[round abyss]

i agree

[robust mango]

BF right now is the top FPS series but it doesn’t have the pull cod does

Cod has the biggest FPS pull in the industry

[sour shadow]

yes cod dont have destruction and looks like cs go with better graphics and physics

[robust mango]

Because they have 3 teams working on it

[round abyss]

you guys know the bf1 heavy bomber heavy bombing type of bombs ?

[robust mango]

They can pump a new game out every year

[sour shadow]

yes

[round abyss]

the ones that break cement bunkes?

[sour shadow]

like samsung

[round abyss]

bunkers*

[slate reef]

better to add content than make new every year

[sour shadow]

yea

[meager harness]

If firestorm was for free it would've succeded

[sour shadow]

they just making money

[tough kayak]

imagine they do wjat cod did and bring out bf3 or 4 remastered with a bf6

[meager harness]

Microtransactions

[robust mango]

that would be bad

[tough kayak]

as a lovely little surprise

[robust mango]

they shouldnt waste their time with remasters of past games

[slate reef]

i miss expansionpacks

[robust mango]

just focus on bolstering new ones

[sour shadow]

do you know why cod cancelled because of battlefield they burn their ass because theyre gonna fail with battlefield

[robust mango]

they just moved another studio to help

vanguard will either be delayed or it will be rushed out the door

[sour shadow]

and started with 7-8 studios together

[robust mango]

I doubt they will delay the game

They already know any cod no matter how shit will sell

[sour shadow]

man if its wwii

will fail

[robust mango]

They don’t want an entire year where battlefield is chosen even by cod players as their yearly shooter

[sour shadow]

because people tired with wwii history based shooters

[celest pollen]

isnt vanguard like not even started devleopment properly?

[slate reef]

no history based is best

[robust mango]

Ps5 has absolutely like no games so whatever comes out for that console this year is selling no matter how bad it is

[robust mango]

They’ve been in development for over a year

[slate reef]

alternative histiory is good too

[celest pollen]

ah

[robust mango]

All BF games are pretty much alt history

Or fantasy wars

Which is good

[slate reef]

true

[robust mango]

BF should never go full accurate

That’s for milsim history channel people

[slate reef]

theres a line

[robust mango]

They can mod their own game

Like battlefield 2 made project reality which basically inspired squad

[meager harness]

Every game that made BR for free has known exponential success (i.e: fortnite, warzone, apex, ....etc)

[sour shadow]

but anyways BATTLEFIELD still perfect

[robust mango]

Well any free game currently is a success

Because it’s free

But that means dice has to be really strong on anti cheating

[slate reef]

just maaany Microtransactions

[round abyss]

free =/ good

[swift edge]

Temporary success however, all this games aren't popular as they were for months

[thin goblet]

too bad firestorm is deadgame

has so much potential

[lusty gulch]

Can you use the tank class gun as assualt?

[robust mango]

I expect literally BF6 to be exactly how they wanted it: a live service game

Expect battle passes of some kind and cosmetics

[swift edge]

Live service ?

[robust mango]

Yes

[proven charm]

Game?

[robust mango]

Live service

[lusty gulch]

Bfv

[robust mango]

Where they update the game and support it for years

[sour shadow]

bf br will be free to play they said

[round abyss]

guys, if we have premium pass, will we get the DLCs?

[proven charm]

the anti tank rifles are under recon only

[swift edge]

Ho ok thanks

[round abyss]

or only with preorder?

[robust mango]

BFV had the start of the battlepass thing but actually BFV had a cool battlepass and I liked it

Everything was free and it was cool

[lusty gulch]

No like I mean the AR you get when you spawn into a tank

[swift edge]

I don't think you'l find a premium pass

[robust mango]

Premium may still exist in BF6 believe it or not

There’s no reason they’d take it away when it actually sells

[round abyss]

if i buy the base game, in day 1, will i have DLcs?

[robust mango]

Probably not day 1 DLC

[slate reef]

mabke 1?

[swift edge]

And yes the more important thing was that it was entirely free, just have to play to earn content

[robust mango]

But there will be dlcs

[slate reef]

deluxe edition ftw

[robust mango]

They literally hired criterion onto the BF6 project to already start on post launch content

[round abyss]

i bought revolution in 1 and got everything

[swift edge]

Yes I would really enjoy it

[robust mango]

Every single battlefield I get the most expensive version. Whatever gives me the most shit

Have to splurg on my favorite series

[meager harness]

When will the teaser release

[round abyss]

damn thats a lot of money

[celest pollen]

yesterday

[robust mango]

I mean the delux is usually 80 bucks

[deft hollow]

they're not that expensive

[robust mango]

Less expensive than call of duty

Where it’s like 120 dollars

[celest pollen]

haha

[meager harness]

Lol

[celest pollen]

honestly i dont get the 1 year 1 cod game

no sense

[swift edge]

Lol me too, I bought premium on every battlefield I played exceptHardline because the game was abandonned few months before it was released

[round abyss]

yea 120 is alot

[deft hollow]

people keep buying them so it actually makes sense

[round abyss]

you guys preorder?

[celest pollen]

not to mention those prices of cod games dont go down at all

[deft hollow]

I will, probably

[robust mango]

I just like battlefield in general so whatever gets me all the pre order shit and stuff

[celest pollen]

bo2 is still at a dumb high price

after it being out for years

[round abyss]

seriously?

[sour shadow]

for game its a lot but their hungry stomach its not

[celest pollen]

thats nice

[swift edge]

Never, I wait to see the gameplay before

[robust mango]

I don’t always pre order games but battlefield yes

[round abyss]

i never preorder because i never know how it ll look

[deft hollow]

I mean, I'll play it regardless of how it turns out, so..

[solid carbon]

Those leaked screens look terrible

[robust mango]

Same

[celest pollen]

this might sound dumb but if they told me to pre order the game without seeing it i probs would

[round abyss]

i thought BFV would smarten people

[robust mango]

I played BFV at launch

And kept playing

[celest pollen]

they arent full renders

if theyre real

[round abyss]

but my hopes for humanity arent high

[robust mango]

I love BFV it’s my favorite BF game

[sour shadow]

it will be good if we get any new info from battlefield

[celest pollen]

naicu

[round abyss]

haahhaahah

[celest pollen]

i enjoyed it a lot too

[slate reef]

becouse WWII 😉

[celest pollen]

"ww2"

[round abyss]

sorry

had to do it

[tough kayak]

lol i hope it’s an open beta and not one u have to preorder to get access to

[deft hollow]

I think bfv is the worst but I still have a good time with it

[celest pollen]

bfv had open beta for all too

just for 2 days tho

i think bf7 was the worst

[deft hollow]

then again I loved Cyberpunk so I'm probably not right in the head

[round abyss]

you are a positive person, cool

[robust mango]

Everyone literally always makes fun of BFV but I just realized that they’re more mad they didn’t enjoy it as much as me, so for them their last good bf games was years and years ago

[solid carbon]

[celest pollen]

lmfao

[solid carbon]

He knows

[proven charm]

bf 1942 > bfv in terms of ww2 bf games

[tough kayak]

on PC it was sick, console we won’t talk about

[celest pollen]

i didnt like the hitmarker and suppression system in any older bf games

[robust mango]

Well yeah obviously

[celest pollen]

no matter how good the maps were

the suppression made it so fucked

[round abyss]

bf1 > bf4 , hate on me all you want i recharge off of that

[celest pollen]

personal preference haha

dw me too

[robust mango]

I agree

[swift edge]

Lol nobody played BF1943 ?

On ps3

[celest pollen]

that was nice too

i did

[tough kayak]

looked like someone had smeared vaseline over your screen in bf3 lmao

[proven charm]

So you prefer 1942 over bfv?

chad

[swift edge]

Or XBOX 360 too

[celest pollen]

ikr!

[robust mango]

Ofc, that’s my first BF game I ever played

[round abyss]

bf4 looks like minecraft in terms of graphics and it came out 2013

[swift edge]

This game was hard but really fun

[tough kayak]

did u ever see bf4 without the blue tint? it looked rlly good

[deft hollow]

I mean, not really lol

[round abyss]

the consoles are holding us back fellow gamers

[sour shadow]

bf5 is bf 1942 remake kind od

of

[proven charm]

graphics aren't everything

[robust mango]

I was probably about 7 years old when I played 1942. Became my favorite BF game for a long time

[tough kayak]

gameplay>graphics

[celest pollen]

black ops 3

• came out 4.5 years ago
• price = still $60 kill meeeee

[round abyss]

they arent, but with their absence, you see how important they are

[proven charm]

just play the game, it's literally the most fun after you get used to the game

[slate reef]

My first was Vietnam. Playing surfing bird while flying a helis my göd...

[tough kayak]

for bfV they focused more on graphics than gameplay

[robust mango]

Oh yeah Vietnam was good

Idk about that

[celest pollen]

bc2 as well

[robust mango]

The movement and animations in BFV were great

[tough kayak]

they did this for bf4 and that’s why it’s still played 8 years later with more players than bf1

[proven charm]

https://tenor.com/view/war-gif-13170560

[deft hollow]

no idea, I think it looks worse than BF1 but it's mostly because of the art style

[round abyss]

there should be a balance between graphics-gameplay

bf4 for its time was good

[celest pollen]

opposite for me :p

[swift edge]

And it doesn't worth it at all lol, except all the zombies maps which are incredible

[proven charm]

id love a vietnam dlc for bf6

[round abyss]

but when comparing bf1 bf4 bfv

[sour shadow]

sniper monkey

[tough kayak]

[celest pollen]

i actually think graphics affect my buying more

[proven charm]

vietnam is still my favourite war and will be for a while

[robust mango]

BF1 I believe has more players than. BF4 @tough kayak

[celest pollen]

but thats not bad

[round abyss]

bf4 looks like chess online

[celest pollen]

im just an aesthetic guy

[robust mango]

In fact we can even look at steam chart numbers and see this as well

[proven charm]

no it doesn't what

[celest pollen]

if a game looks really good ill buy it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sour shadow]

dd

[robust mango]

Are you sure about that

[proven charm]

steam charts =/= any other platforms

[proven charm]

yes lmao

[tough kayak]

it does which is why they do it, gameplay means a game will last long, graphics means more sales initially but dies after a few months when people get bored

[round abyss]

bf1 dirt looks so good

darn

[robust mango]

I mean you guys said yesterday they have doop servers in BF4

[round abyss]

i can prone on it forever

[robust mango]

Where it shows full servers but no people actually are there

[proven charm]

the spoofed servers dont exist on console

[robust mango]

Can I get a number from battlelog to back this up

[round abyss]

i wish a support person could help me launch bf4 from the normal client instead of battlelog

[tough kayak]

0 servers for xbox on bf1 , i’m talking about across all platforms

[round abyss]

my friend can open it normally but my game doesnt let me

[swift edge]

"Bf6 TrAiLeR ThIs WEeK"

[proven charm]

i get maximum 2 severs open on bf1 and minimum 5 on bf4 in active times with my very specific filters

[sour shadow]

The dice made best audio for game since Bf3

[robust mango]

That’s because on Xbox they’re mainly on BFV

[round abyss]

jackfrags said early may, which is this week

[deft hollow]

stop, I can only delude myself so much

[round abyss]

jackfrags has played it and seen the trailer

so we are pretty sure its coming "soon"

[tough kayak]

on active bf4 times on xbox i see 25-40 full servers

[swift edge]

Lol, lying to yourself is a dangerous game to play my dear

[proven charm]

I've got quite strict filters so yeah

[robust mango]

How many people actually play BF4 tho that’s the thing

[swift edge]

Or the week after

[robust mango]

Because if it’s only a couple thousand

[proven charm]

No accurate number

[tough kayak]

i literally just filter no private servers and only conquest and that’s it

[round abyss]

naaah, early may is until 10 at max

7 days from today at max

[sour shadow]

at this moment i only play battlefield 3

[robust mango]

Okay so the only actual numbers we can see are steam charts

[sour shadow]

dd

[round abyss]

btw, what is that june 8th hexadecimal code saying

if we have to wait until june im gonna flip up things

[proven charm]

which don't represent all platforms and literally don't even represent origin players

[tough kayak]

and i don’t think that includes people who go straight through origin

[proven charm]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-tippy-taps-excited-happy-dance-gif-17695306

[tough kayak]

idk

[swift edge]

I have difficulties most of the time to find a good server on BF4 pc but never had on BF3

[swift edge]

Cheddar

[robust mango]

But we don’t really have an accurate number or any other source

[tough kayak]

which is most for bf4 since it’s only been added to steam recently

[robust mango]

We could easily just apply the logic that the differences in steam charts would at least reflect properly

[tough kayak]

there used to be but the website got pulled i think

[round abyss]

i wish they balance vehicles in new game and make a good anti cheat

[robust mango]

Steam charts still shows BF1 ahead by almost 4K players as well as selling more copies overall

[round abyss]

im so tired of chinese hackers in EU servers, i have to leave servers every time i join

im still playing bf1, and its a pain

[robust mango]

So unless there’s a secret number of servers on console that are housing over 4K players

[round abyss]

there was a guy yesterday while i was playing with my friend, 620 kills....

if EA cant take things like this seriously then we are ruined

[robust mango]

And BF1 was on top downloads list for PS

[tough kayak]

2-3 thousand on xbox on active days on active times

[robust mango]

Do we know if ps has more active bf4 than bf1

I’d find that very hard to believe

[tough kayak]

xbox more active bf4

than ps

[round abyss]

pc bf1 has a ton of players

[proven charm]

what platform?

[round abyss]

PC

[robust mango]

Okay so Xbox has more active bf4

But ps probably has more active bf1

[proven charm]

explains it then

[robust mango]

Yes it does

[round abyss]

BF1-BFV have a huge hacking problem

[tough kayak]

pretty much

[robust mango]

On PC BF1 is massively more popular than 4

[round abyss]

EA has given up on these games

[celest pollen]

yuh

[round abyss]

EU bf1 has 20-30 servers at least full

[celest pollen]

bf1's hacking problem is so bad

[round abyss]

i was struggling to find place to join

[tough kayak]

you aren’t counting origin players for bf4 it was only added to steam recently remember

[robust mango]

I’m assuming that Xbox is the only platform that has a high bf4 community

[celest pollen]

that i only play frontllines in bf1

barely any hackers there

[round abyss]

most time we wait on queues on PC

[robust mango]

What are you talking about tho

I’ve played bf4 on origin pc

[celest pollen]

wut

[round abyss]

operations is where its at tho

[robust mango]

And there’s not nearly as many servers filled as BF1

[celest pollen]

bf4's server browser in general is less full then bf1s

and plus a lot of bf4's full servers are just fake

[robust mango]

It just doesn’t make sense that BF1 would have less players than BF4 on pc

[solar jetty]

Why hasnt crossplay been a feature in any of the battlefield games yet?

[round abyss]

naaah

[celest pollen]

soon

[round abyss]

i ve been on bf4 and 1

1 has waaaaayyyy more players

[celest pollen]

yeah

[round abyss]

than bf4

[celest pollen]

1 has more

[robust mango]

BF1 is more popular than bf4 I think we have come to this conclusion

[tough kayak]

wasn’t a thing rlly when bf3/4/1 were made i think

[celest pollen]

well ofc it is

bf1 came way after bf4 too

[robust mango]

And sales wise it’s more popular

[celest pollen]

trailer wise too 😉

[tough kayak]

unless u on xbox lol

[robust mango]

And critical acclaim wise it’s more popular

[celest pollen]

a seven nation army couldnt hold bf1 back

[round abyss]

bf1 trailer has dozens upon dozens of millions of views

bf1 beat every cod game to death

[celest pollen]

well

bf1s trailers made cod look like a kid

[robust mango]

Yeah I think people are just trying to keep bf4 as somehow the pinnacle of battlefield again

[tough kayak]

i can go check both games rn and id bet my savings that xbox has more active bf4 than 1 lol

[robust mango]

That’s just Xbox

[celest pollen]

idk abotu xbox

im talking pc

[round abyss]

also, Bf1 dlcs are soooo good

[celest pollen]

PCMR BOIIII

[robust mango]

Which didn’t sell as much as PlayStation did anyways

[tough kayak]

yeah pc 1 has more

[celest pollen]

fuck yo consol-

jkjk

[round abyss]

forreal tho

consoles got finally an upgrade

[celest pollen]

even the trailer

[robust mango]

Almost betting PS4 has more BF1 players

[celest pollen]

maybe on console

[round abyss]

finally PC can have better graphics

[celest pollen]

pc always had better gfx wdym

[tough kayak]

lmao i’m not buying the new xbox just so i can play 128 players i’ll just get it on my pc

[round abyss]

bf1 has better dlcs than bfv - bf4 and bf3

[celest pollen]

fax

[robust mango]

Uhhhhh

Yeah I’d say so

[celest pollen]

actually

maybe

[round abyss]

the russian and french dlc alone carb stomps bf and V

[robust mango]

I didn’t like BF4’s dlcs tbh

[celest pollen]

final stand was good

[round abyss]

the russian soundtrack alone, the civil war, tsaritsyn atmosphere

could drown bf4

[tough kayak]

lol the rail gun was funny

[round abyss]

i loved final stand

[celest pollen]

hahahha

[round abyss]

but

[proven charm]

second assault

[round abyss]

In the name of the tsar is ❤️

[sonic rampart]

Bf1 isnt that good lol

[celest pollen]

ok

anyways

[tough kayak]

as if firestorm wasn’t already overplayed lmao

[round abyss]

i have downloaded the soundtrack, so captivating

[proven charm]

it had metro though

and the as val :3

[tough kayak]

true and brought the f2000

[round abyss]

bf1 has had 1000000x times better soundtrack than 4 lol

[robust mango]

Metro doesn’t really matter

[celest pollen]

my top:
bf1
bf4
bfv/3
bfh

[robust mango]

Even BFV had a metro map

[celest pollen]

my opinion dont kill me

[round abyss]

battlefield heroes in stead of hardline for me

hahahahah

when i see bfh i think of heroes

[celest pollen]

bfh= bf heroes 🙂

haha

[round abyss]

niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[sonic rampart]

Bf1 has a good atmosphere and the operations were nice, but bfv has better gameplay and bf3 and bf3 2.0 (bf4) are a modern setting which I just prefer over ww1 lol

[celest pollen]

i actually liked bfh and bfh

[tough kayak]

mine would go
bc2
bf3/4
bfh bf1
bfv

i think

[round abyss]

i didnt play hardline

[tough kayak]

idk

[celest pollen]

ahhh

rip bf1

lmfao

honestly but who cares? they're all good games

[slate reef]

wasnt BFH like that comic like game?

[sonic rampart]

Ye

[solar jetty]

I feel like every big first person shooter title is making their own battle royale, and its getting a bit old in my opinion

[robust mango]

I liked BFV the best

[tough kayak]

cops and robbers style game

[celest pollen]

haha

maybe XD

it was pretty fun for me

[round abyss]

bf1 - bf4-bf3-bfheroes (nostalgia from childhood) those all are i played

[drowsy basin]

💯

[celest pollen]

im not a nit picky bf guy i just like whatever dice makes in bf

[sonic rampart]

I dont mind battlefield having a battle royale

[celest pollen]

if its free and good, idm

if its paid and redundant ima bonk dice

[round abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-meme-dog-doge-gif-14889944

[sonic rampart]

Because if there would be any shooter game that would have a battle royale it should be battlefield

[tough kayak]

they might just update firestorm

[round abyss]

no gifs rip

[celest pollen]

ooooof... i mean im fine with that

[sonic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-meme-dog-doge-gif-14889944

[celest pollen]

firestorm gave me some good mmeories

[round abyss]

why cant i post gifs?

[sonic rampart]

You need to be a server booster or have regular role

[hidden cape]

firestorm is dead
at least when I last tried it

[tough kayak]

be like the ridiculous 20-50gb updates of warzone lmao

[round abyss]

how do you get regular?

[celest pollen]

yeah on pc its absolutely ded

last time i tried i had 9 people in my game

[sonic rampart]

!!regular

[ruby trail]

The Regular role is earned by active, positive and resourceful members of the server. Role is earned, not given. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands and change what color you appear in chat.

[hidden cape]

took me 10 mins to find a match with only 2 peo ple lmaoo

[celest pollen]

wow

pay to win

:(( ban

[round abyss]

cool

do you need to be in this community many years for it or no?

[sonic rampart]

No

[slate reef]

You need to frind

grind

[round abyss]

post comments or helping ppl?

how is it objective?

[sonic rampart]

Its random

[round abyss]

aah

well

[tough kayak]

like the grind in scavenger for xbow type grind?😂

[round abyss]

minecraft diamond grind then

[sonic rampart]

You just talk in here and eventually you get it lol

[round abyss]

lez go

[celest pollen]

here is danny and today battlefield decided to cancel bf2021

gimme $100 if u read it in his voice

[round abyss]

what manga-anime is that

[celest pollen]

the baguettes: 5th arc

[round abyss]

dude

you have it copy pasted?

ahahhahaahah

WTFFF

[celest pollen]

120wpm

[round abyss]

im only 70-80 :c

[celest pollen]

lol thats good

[hidden cape]

im like 90

[celest pollen]

that was me 6 months ago

[dull prism]

If you haven't played BFHeroes you're a chump

[round abyss]

are you like a stenographer?

[celest pollen]

XD

no just a shut in

[round abyss]

same thing

[celest pollen]

XD

[round abyss]

different names

[slate reef]

<:O

[tough kayak]

those guys keyboards are confusing af lol

[round abyss]

i got a decent keyboard

[slate reef]

5 dolla?

[round abyss]

if i started typing 120 wpm my neighbours would call the cops

[pine cave]

#battlefield-legacy-titles

[hidden cape]

whats the worst BF game in you guys opinion

[round abyss]

lets not discuss it here?

[celest pollen]

none

they're all good

🙂

[proven charm]

none

they're all good

[solid carbon]

[round abyss]

i got a coolermaster master keys light if im remembering correct

[tough kayak]

[round abyss]

they are all decent, some have ups some lows

[celest pollen]

i wouldve had 3/4 as best if suppression wasnt as bad

literally suppression makes 3/4 go lower than bfv in some cases

[tough kayak]

vaseline vibes

[round abyss]

in general, unlike other franchises (cough cough fallout)

[celest pollen]

hahahhah

[slate reef]

What was the main difference between 3 and 4? except they removed all the fun guns ..

[random blade]

Only ever seems to work against me

[celest pollen]

vaseline all over ur screen

[celest pollen]

;-;

[random blade]

Nobody else seems affected by it

[pine cave]

I thought bf1 had worse suppression effects?

[celest pollen]

i mean

[tough kayak]

i mean 4 was like a remastered 3 to me

[slate reef]

indeed

[celest pollen]

my aim is on point but bullets still dont follow

makes me think skills != win

but i get why they did it and its fine

[slate reef]

anyone tel me it isnt true!

[round abyss]

oh a quick question, do you write 120 on your native language or english?

[celest pollen]

just a personal perefernce

[hidden cape]

4's the best IMO

[celest pollen]

dont attack me

[celest pollen]

english

i dont haev a native lang

[solid carbon]

bf4 is a downgrade

[random blade]

I shoot newr someone to suppress them and I still get headshot

[deft hollow]

I mean, suppression at its core rewards those who miss, especially in BF3

[celest pollen]

plus i cant sustain 120 for more than 30s

[round abyss]

oooh, i write 80 while its not my native

lol

[celest pollen]

so my average is more like 105 to 115

[round abyss]

lol

xddd

[pine cave]

Gun play? Guess so. But vehicles? p a i n

[celest pollen]

yeah i get that aspect, its just not what i like haha

idk tho bf1 has suppression