battlefield-legacy-titles

[uneven hollow]

why have long words when they can short

[solid hinge]

Yeah but everyone denounced i wanna say i told you so lol

[rocky falcon]

when is the reveal for bf6

[solid hinge]

Wait till DICE tweet it

[rocky falcon]

ok

my pc wont like bf6

[solid hinge]

Last i heard bf6 still testing

[uneven hollow]

!!when will bf6 be revealed

[ruby trail]

Soon™ 😉

[uneven hollow]

[craggy fractal]

nah

[solid hinge]

Some people thought its was going to be yesterday

Because a leaker said on friday

[jade dock]

Eyo can anyone judge a logo I made for my platoon?

[solid hinge]

Go for it

[jade dock]

Aight I'll dm it

[robust mango]

it still is tbh

but the context is important, i usually dont get triggered by it if someones just referring to their faction

[jade dock]

Is Battlefield V for PS Plus going to be a forever product like Days Gone?

[exotic scaffold]

Wdym

[jade dock]

As in

It won't be available when the month ends?

[exotic scaffold]

If you add it to your library it stays there forever I’m sure

[jade dock]

Oh so it's a library game, thanks

Another Battlefield to my collection B)

[exotic scaffold]

I added fall guys to my library when it was on ps+ and I can still redownload it

And that was ages ago

bfv should be the same

[jade dock]

So I just need to buy BF4 now

And I have all the games I need in my life

[trim fulcrum]

any info on bf6 in the last 2 days?

[jade dock]

Someone said the trailer would come out on the 8th

[trim fulcrum]

lots of other someones saying different things

[fallow burrow]

it will feature guns and the color blue

[slow cradle]

Very unlikely to come on saturday

[solid hinge]

the origin sale thing said "Prepare for all out war, may 4th"

or something

it'd be on a tuesday

[slow cradle]

Which origin sale thing?

[random blade]

Huge sale on battlefield titles, on the front page of origin

[golden walrus]

absolutely not

[jade dock]

Quick question if you choose an emblem directly does it appear as your profile picture in-game?

And if you choose a different emblem by the platoon menu it doesn't change your profile picture right?

[solid hinge]

who wanna play bf3?

[trim fulcrum]

i just want the dlcs to go free again

of bf4

[solid hinge]

Nope

[jade dock]

Alright

[random blade]

I got bf4 dlcs for free when 1 came out, same could happen with 6

[jade dock]

So I can choose any as my profile picture and the platoon emblem doesn't change

[solid hinge]

On battlelog own server but not sony or Microsoft server

[solid hinge]

But on bf5 im trying figure that out

[zenith gyro]

When bf6 trailer

[robust mango]

This coming week hopefully

[jade dock]

Would a milsim on BFV work

[solemn dirge]

[robust mango]

No

[icy sluice]

Whether or not it does or doesn't, people still do it

[uneven hollow]

[jade dock]

Eh I can do it on BF1 too so ez

[icy sluice]

A lot of Mil-Sim platoons advertise in #739938247089848351

[robust mango]

People have been asking for battlefield to be closer to Milsims for years as well

[uneven hollow]

Cod milsims

[jade dock]

Because we all crave a MILSIM on PlayStation

[robust mango]

Luckily dice never listens

Is squad on console yet

[jade dock]

But nobody never does one

[icy sluice]

Most of the player-base wants a sandbox experience

[robust mango]

^

[jade dock]

It isn't and can't be

[icy sluice]

Mil-Sim has a lot of restrictions

[uneven hollow]

Indeed

[icy sluice]

People just wanna fuck around and do stupid shit

[jade dock]

Squad has too many mechanics for a common controller

[robust mango]

Milsims are just restricting and also the community is really mean for some reason

[deft hollow]

doubt it'll ever come considering it's all about voip

[jade dock]

Because they all wanna feel like big military men

[robust mango]

Squad is able to gate keep and still have a population. Games like Post scriptum have been complaining recently about the player base falling. But if you ever played PS, those SL’s and even the admins are mean

No mic? Kicked

[icy sluice]

I just wanna use the big guns without being told how I should use them :p

[robust mango]

Exactly

[uneven hollow]

same with planes

Like I should be able to kamikaze with any planes

[icy sluice]

I don't care about my riflemen, I have a gun that can kill 20 people in 2 seconds!

[robust mango]

You literally take the machine gun or recon role in a PS or Squad game and you can get kicked if someone doesn’t want you there. Also having the player able to lock infantry units from being joined?

Why do Milsims give so much power to the player when the player openly abuses it

[jade dock]

I mean if you know how to organize something you can make a milsim on PlayStation

[echo wren]

Nobody does that

[deft hollow]

I played Squad for almost 600 hours and to be honest, at least in EU servers, big military men are heavily disliked, usually they're made fun of

you get kicked often if you play without sticking to your squad, though

[echo wren]

Either you're an ass in vc or you're bad

[robust mango]

I never use my mic

[uneven hollow]

There’s always that gtav milsims but that’s a different story

[jade dock]

Or you just communicate with your team calmly

[robust mango]

Anytime I do in a game I’m asking for trouble

Even if I do try to communicate

[deft hollow]

why?

[robust mango]

There’s people that either sexually harass me or make jokes

[jade dock]

Organize a squad then

[icy sluice]

Most of the time in Battlefield games, people don't really care, it's just about having fun

[sullen tree]

Can someone tell me the camping spots in BF4 maps? In Team Death Matches

[deft hollow]

oh understood

[robust mango]

The same would happen

[icy sluice]

Only bad thing about Battlefield is that you might be called names for using certain things

[robust mango]

It’s just a curse of being female and playing shooters

[jade dock]

Then organize another squad

[deft hollow]

well, in Squad in my 600 hours I've never heard of anyone sexually harassing females tbh

[jade dock]

It's all about finding the right people

[robust mango]

I just like to play and have fun, I shouldnt be forced to speak. I paid for the game I have every single right to be able to play the game

[icy sluice]

One thing I've noticed is that most females I run into in Battlefield play Medic, there's only one that's an assault and then that's it

[deft hollow]

it's probably the only game where I haven't heard anyone making fun of women lol

[novel light]

Shout out to that one person that insulted my teammate for using a shotgun.

On Panzerstorm CQ.

[icy sluice]

SHOTGUN ON PANZERSTORM!?

Chad right there

[novel light]

yes

Not even the Drilling

[deft hollow]

I bet they weren't using slugs

[novel light]

So you can't even use the rifle shot card

[queen canopy]

I mean, it’s a lot less obvious when it doesn’t happen directly to you

[novel light]

of course not, 12g buck

[deft hollow]

Oh absolutely

[novel light]

They actually weren't too bad

[solid hinge]

hoi ^-^

[novel light]

You can make a shotgun work on PS if you know what you're doing

It just, well, wouldn't be my first choice of weapon

Or second

Or third

Or fourth

[deft hollow]

have you played Tarkov? Bots one shotting you with shotties from the other side of the map

[jade dock]

[robust mango]

My whole point is if you allow the community to determine who can and can’t play. It undermines the customer. If I pay for a video game. I should automatically be able to play as long as I’m not breaking the TOS or being harmful to other players. Milsims are the only games where the player themselves basically can gatekeep you from participating over some arbitrary rules they just made up

[icy sluice]

I've run into about 8 females on BFV (of course more, but I mean like talking and being in a squad) and 7 of them are medic mains and 1 of them is an assault main

[robust mango]

I am a medic main haha

I guess the stereotype fits

[novel light]

One friend of mine is a Medic main

[icy sluice]

I mean, medic is a good class lol

[queen canopy]

The one time my girlfriend played BFV, she chose medic lol

[novel light]

On other hand, I am yet to see a true all-class from people I know

[robust mango]

It’s fun! I like healing

[novel light]

We're about as common as unicorns

[icy sluice]

Out of my 80 friends, I am like... the only Recon main lol

[robust mango]

I like picking people up and healing

[jade dock]

Well you see, MILSIM's need a more active and fair moderation

[solid hinge]

medic always best tho

[deft hollow]

I'm an assault main fight me

[queen canopy]

She asked why she had a weapon if she was medic...

[icy sluice]

lmao

[jade dock]

I main the assault and support

[robust mango]

Yeah that’s the worst part. The admins themselves sympathize with the power abusers and harassers

[novel light]

I play whichever class works best for me in particular situation, when I don't work on masteries

[solid hinge]

no il stab chu with my needle or electrocute you when your stupid

[celest pollen]

blyat

[robust mango]

Because they themselves are Milsim people

[novel light]

Support and Assault are my two main classes, but I'll take Recon or Medic if I feel they will work better

[queen canopy]

Yeah....milsim in general is just a bunch of good old boys at this point, on Xbox at least

I was in milsim for quite a while

[jade dock]

It's called "I can't find friends with my same interests so I adapt to anything the popular dudes on the platform think" or they're just jackasses

[robust mango]

Anytime ive ever criticized a milsim for something legitimate, their rebuttal is always “go back to battlefield and call of duty”

[novel light]

My #1 rule is, don't shoehorn yourself into one role

[celest pollen]

is this some alternate reality where finally no ones talking about bf6 speculations

evil satisfied laugh

[novel light]

As it's going to bite you in the ass sooner than later

[jade dock]

Eck I'll just go eat

Peace

[robust mango]

Then they say “why does nobody play milsims as much as arcade games?”

[solid hinge]

huh in my experience they are always super nice

[robust mango]

Really?

You must be lucky

[novel light]

I've never been even slightly involved with milsim communities, so I can't comment

[deft hollow]

depends, in my experience some are extremely chill while others will kick you out if you don't call them by sir

[solid hinge]

they get a bit angry at me cuz im stupid but they do their best to help

[robust mango]

This

[icy sluice]

I can do all classes but Recon headshots are just

[novel light]

I killed people with hand flares and flashbangs for the kicks, that doesn't really compute with milsim mentality

[deft hollow]

but I've only had experiences with milsim clans in Squad, never bothered in Battlefield, makes no sense to me

[shut bloom]

Bf1 is so fun

[robust mango]

Oh yeah I’ve had someone scream before to me on the mic over me like walking ahead of the squad. It was so scary

[celest pollen]

yeah well milsims require patience which probs no cod/bf only gamer would get used to in the first few rounds of squad or arma or smth

[shut bloom]

It should be more popular imp

Imo

[celest pollen]

it is lol

[shut bloom]

Not rlly

[celest pollen]

bf1's playercount is pretty high i play it everyday

[robust mango]

A milsim clan I feel like is more relaxed than a milsim game clan. Like BF is still an arcade game

[celest pollen]

i mean, considering its not super new either

[shut bloom]

It’s lower than bfv

[queen canopy]

It’s fun, but has some pretty hefty flaws

[robust mango]

But people who play squad and PS are very strict sometimes

[celest pollen]

me 7 years ago thinking bf is a realistic game lmfao

[robust mango]

They even say like HLL is an arcade game

When it still has hardcore elements

[shut bloom]

It’s still not realistic

[novel light]

I just can't get myself to play competitive

[shut bloom]

Battlefield doesn’t have battleships

[celest pollen]

really? i think theres a little bit more players on bf1 in asia than bfv

[shut bloom]

Battlefield v

[deft hollow]

I was in a chill clan in Squad and no one really cared about milsim stuff, it depends on the clan

[novel light]

Unless I play with friends whose levels of caring about serious gameplay are close to mine

As in, not very high

[deft hollow]

some are extremely serious while others are pretty chill

[celest pollen]

dreadnought was the last battleshipish

[robust mango]

That’s definitely true at the end of the day

I know some chill people that play squad

[shut bloom]

Battlefield v doesn’t even have battleships that can fire torpedoes and stuff

[novel light]

I used to moderate a comp league in one game back in the day

It PTSD'd me out of doing any moderation work for next 7 years

[celest pollen]

lmfao

[sullen tree]

Can someone tell me the camping spots in BF4 maps? In Team Death Matches

[queen canopy]

Probably because those things are honestly gimmicky as fuck and would only really get bitched about

[celest pollen]

fuck i wanna play bf1 incursions i miss that

[deft hollow]

roofs

I loved incursions, hated sinai but giant's shadow and amiens were great

[pulsar valve]

Whispers "Incursions"

[sullen tree]

Thanks

[icy sluice]

The most serious my friends have gotten has been strapping dynamite to a jeep and driving into tanks or planes

[novel light]

...

[celest pollen]

sinai must be deleted

[novel light]

was about to say

[robust mango]

Ahahah same!

[celest pollen]

sinai and amiens both should be eradicated

[novel light]

CTE subreddit and Incursions Discord were my return to proper moderation

[celest pollen]

;-;

[icy sluice]

HEY!

Amiens is a good map

[solid hinge]

the only strat

[novel light]

Although Incursions Discord mostly imprinted 6 words into my brain

[icy sluice]

I did actually 'destroy a plane with a Liberator'

[deft hollow]

I still remember the Incursions server being swarmed by russian and chinese players during the BFV alpha

[queen canopy]

Oof I need to bike home but I don’t wanna start....

[novel light]

so did I

[robust mango]

Whenever I play a shooter theres 1 thing I hold above all else. Fun > Realism. If you are ever concerned with a player base, at the end of the day more QOL elements that lean towards fun will always succeed

[novel light]

On the runway

[deft hollow]

I remember waking up and asking myself if it had become a chinese server

[robust mango]

Realism can be fun for people, too much realism is fun for nobody

Because eventually it becomes barebones

[celest pollen]

unpopular opinion but the way the firing and accuracy worked in bf4/bf3 were super shit and unsatisfying especilaly if u spray and pray while moving

[icy sluice]

Of course https://streamable.com/oi69yr

[robust mango]

If BFV took a realistic approach we would have no prototype weapons or anything and no cool extra gadgets

[celest pollen]

flieger

[novel light]

yuuuuuup

Except mine was on Wake

[robust mango]

I’m really hoping BF6 has prototype weaponry. It’s really become something cool about BF games

[novel light]

I don't have the clip anymore, but I still have it in some video I made ages ago

As long as I have dumb stuff to do, I'm happy

Okay, I'm not very happy now that I paired the sniper rifle I'm mastering with the Liberator

But I'll get used to it

maybe

eventually

probably not

[icy sluice]

Arisaka and Gewehr M.95 are perfect to pair with Liberator

[novel light]

I'm banking on M95

[celest pollen]

arisaka and g,95 are best period XD

[novel light]

But I need to get K31 across the line first

[icy sluice]

K31 can be great

[novel light]

I hate it

That chevron hurts me

[queen canopy]

Panzerfaust is just better liberator?

[novel light]

The plan was to finish K31, then Welrod, then pair M95 with Liberator

[celest pollen]

no hud owo

[novel light]

But then it turned out I killed more people with Welrod than K31

And the whole plan fell apart

And now I still need another 60 K31 kills

[uneven hollow]

Plane is better

But it’s based tho

[deft hollow]

G3 + m26 mass nightmares

[novel light]

Well, at least I'm 242/246 on weapon dogtags

So it's the home stretch

212 Liberator kills though... yeah, I could use some camping snipers in my near future

To apply the reliable 1-2 combo of Karabin headshot and sidearm finisher

[static grail]

im still bummed they took away mobile commander for bf4

[proven charm]

https://tenor.com/view/charge-attack-battlefield-battlefield1-attack-charge-gif-7279044

[uneven hollow]

my opponent has arrived

Our battle shall make jer rich

[jade dock]

Ah yes

Ze flammenwerfer

[digital mauve]

what maps would you like to see back in bf6 ?

from any previous bf game

[jade dock]

What is BF6 about

[digital mauve]

we don't know yet

[uneven hollow]

Well no not the flammenwerfer it’s the horse

[jade dock]

#739938247089848351 hah another MILSIM unit

[uneven hollow]

The horse is my opponent

[jade dock]

See

[digital mauve]

but personally i would like to see strike at karkand in bf6 because this map was really focused on infantry and vehicle

[jade dock]

Yes but

What is BF6 about

[proven charm]

caveman warfare

grug dlc

[celest pollen]

battlefield 6 is not gonna happen

[shut bloom]

Lol

[celest pollen]

its set before the world was made

[shut bloom]

At rocket gun is so op

[celest pollen]

smol bang theory

[shut bloom]

In bf1

Literally one shots everyone

[uneven hollow]

Grug spotted enemy grug at sun rise location grug out

[celest pollen]

anti tank grenade with at = best

sniper spears cant wait

[shut bloom]

Gas grenade is stupidly op as well

[celest pollen]

nawww

gas is easy

i just spam T as soon as i see it

incendeary is better

[shut bloom]

It obstructs the view

[uneven hollow]

Grug being attacked by enemy iron lion grug needs iron bird support

[shut bloom]

And it does quite a lot of damage

[celest pollen]

yeah if u catch people off guard

[proven charm]

grug is being airlifted by big bird

[celest pollen]

but it hardly kills full health people

[proven charm]

helicopter grug

[celest pollen]

which is why i use incen

[proven charm]

with sticks to throw

[celest pollen]

ooga booga battelfield theme

[uneven hollow]

Grug is pleased that iron lion is down now he does not throw fire rocks

[jade dock]

Well you know it's a rocket

Normally what would happen if a rocket hits you?

You die istantly

What would be weird is if it didn't one shot you

[gray saffron]

money money moneehhh

[uneven hollow]

Grug still has pogger kamikaze on xbone

[jade peak]

does this server has to do anything with ea

or a fan server like thing?

[uneven hollow]

It’s just a official battlefield discord server

[jade peak]

so ea runs it?

[uneven hollow]

Don’t think so

Idk

But it’s a verified server

[celest pollen]

no but there are many official devs and people here

[proven charm]

well the owner / holder of the server is ea in general iirc

[queen canopy]

There’s affiliation with EA, but it’s privately owned and operated IIRC

Don’t quote me on that mods

[pulsar valve]

The admins/mods run the server, but EA has a part in owning it

[cold trail]

Think of it as a cooperative/collaborative effort. EA has ownership in it, the community operates it.

[pulsar valve]

But yes, this is official

[coral fiber]

[gray glade]

im curious, what do they actually own then? just the rights to the name basically?

if its community operated and its not driven by money afaik?

[pulsar valve]

To be verified on Discord, a server's owner account must have a company or org email adress

[gray glade]

ah, ok

[jade peak]

goodnight for eu people

[jade dock]

[solar jetty]

Im stuck in a looping cutscene in BFV

I cant skip it

[gray glade]

in singleplayer?

[rain mason]

Alt f4

[proven charm]

The prologue?

[solar jetty]

No, I was in the company menu

I have a clip if its ok to post the link

[proven charm]

post the link and I'll repost it for you so it embeds

[gray glade]

cant you just restart game

[solar jetty]

https://medal.tv/clips/51156796/d1337vXozOvQ

[solar jetty]

Yeah, I just want to figure out the issue in case its a larger problem

[gray glade]

legit dont remember seeing that cutscene before

and i have like 1100 hours in this game lol

[proven charm]

https://medal.tv/clips/51156796/d1337vXozOvQ

[jade dock]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-battlefield1-bf1-wtf-not-my-day-gif-15122915

Man-

That dude gotta have a lot of HP

[solar jetty]

I was in the company menu, I think I pressed escape to try and get back to the menu after speciallizing a tank or something and it happened

It is still going

[vivid rapids]

Yeah for some reason sometimes the main menu buttons doesnt appear

[solar jetty]

Oh thats what it is

how do I fix that lol

[vivid rapids]

It seems random as far as i know

[vivid rapids]

Just restart the game

Theres no buttons so all you can do is alt f4

[sullen tree]

Which weapons has the least recoil/most stability per classes in BF4 ?

[robust mango]

AEK assault

[proven charm]

Assault: SAR-21, M416 or AUG A3
Engineer: PP-2000
Support: Really all LMG's if bipodded but the MG4 and M249 have quite the most little recoil
Recon: All DMRs and Snipers have minimal recoil

[robust mango]

Nooooo you didn’t list the AEK

[jade dock]

Big pp

[robust mango]

The AEK is the cheese weapon

You point and click with that gun and it deletes people

[proven charm]

AEK is a bad AR

[jade dock]

[robust mango]

Nice try

[proven charm]

amazing statistically but bad in my experience

i can shred with it.. but aek

[robust mango]

A lot of people use it yea

[proven charm]

too cheese

too cheap

[robust mango]

Yeah but he was askin for the BEST

He wants the CHEESE

[proven charm]

AEK in terms of recoil (atleast on console) is an uncontrollable mess past 25 metres

[finite isle]

witch resolution and settings do you play bfv?

[proven charm]

I play all graphic settings on medium

but i barely play games on my pc

[robust mango]

Oh on PC the AEK is based

You just point and spray down easily 50m+

[proven charm]

It's better in bf3 :3

I loved it in bf3 tbh

it was THE cheese machine

[solid hinge]

o man i loved bf 3 when i use to play it it's a load of fun it's up there with bf4 as well

[wild kiln]

oop

[gentle venture]

Ace 23 is a pretty damn good AR

High RoF, pretty light recoil, high damage

[novel light]

23 is the solid upper-tier pick

[gentle venture]

The CQB version kinda blows tho, I only use the AR variant

[hexed zenith]

K

[novel light]

You will find better guns for specific situations, but it's going to keep you in the fight comfortably in pretty much any normal circumstances

[gentle venture]

Yeah

I play hardcore mostly, and I've never really run into bad situations with it. Typically run full auto and just burst fire it, if it's past like 75m, can throw it on single fire and it's like a 4 shot max

[jade dock]

I mean it's the same concept as BF1 assault guns and trench guns

In a certain situation you'd use a rifle thay can be used in long range combat

While in some maps with trenches you'd use the trench variant to be more dynamic and quick

[gentle venture]

Yeah but high ROF it can delete people in close quarters

So long as you're not facing like a shotgun or a famas your golden (which people dont run either of those too often)

[jade dock]

Man holy damn the recruitment is exploding with MILSIM's

[gentle venture]

Got really good range. Can usually pick off people at like 200m

[sturdy heron]

I couldn't recognize that lol

[proven charm]

all the ace rifles are great at the thing they're made for

[gentle venture]

I can never get used to the carbine one

Idk why, it always just feels like it just shakes all over the place

[hallow frost]

ho play battlefield 1 i ned pro team

[proven charm]

there's 2, one's basically an ace 23 carbine and the other is a high calibre slow firerate gun of its own

[gentle venture]

I might be thinking of just the slow firerate one

[jade dock]

Elaborate

[gentle venture]

Didn't remember there being 2 in carbines, and I play bf4 pretty constantly

[gray saffron]

do you wanna join 42md?

[jade dock]

I have my own MILSIM but

[gentle venture]

I'm in one too and yeah recruiting going off

[jade dock]

Depends on the size of the MILSIM

[gray saffron]

oh in that case, we're afraid we can't allow you in

[proven charm]

ACE 21 CQB and ACE 52 CQB

[jade dock]

Mine is empty anyway B)

[proven charm]

21 is the 23 carbine and the 52 is the hard hitter

[gentle venture]

Oh yeah 52 I believe is the shit one?

[jade dock]

How many members does it have

[gentle venture]

Well, imo shit one

[hallow frost]

can i tack name origin

[gray saffron]

just scroll on this discord and you'll know ;D

[proven charm]

the recoil on it is painful but its good in cqc

[jade dock]

Very generic

[gentle venture]

Might have to retry... just always feel like the horizontal recoil is a bitch

[proven charm]

you really should, thing shreds

just is hard to control

[gentle venture]

It's the only gun I can think of where I actually notice th horizontal recoil

[gray saffron]

generic but true to its cause! in reality though, it's an anti-platoon. due there were a ton ofmilsim people recruiting, we created our own that's against milsim standards ;D full clown outfits + mg42? send it!

[jade dock]

Ehh..I rather have a strategic gameplay

[robust mango]

@proven charm

wait is anyone on bf4

could they do me a solid rn, one of these users is saying bf4 falsifies population numbers

[hallow frost]

wait is anyone on bf1

[robust mango]

can someone please take a screenshot of the bf4 servers

[gray saffron]

it's true

[robust mango]

they do?

how is that possible

[proven charm]

it's true

spoofed servers

only a problem for pc players though

[gentle venture]

Didnt know that was a thing

[gray saffron]

server owners spoof their server counts, cause the servers are third party hosted. so they could claim their server is 58 out of 64 players, but in reality its only them and their freinds

[deft hollow]

yep, most servers show up as 64/64 but in reality they're empty or almost empty

[gray saffron]

the only fix is using a third party addon on google chrome to view the real player counts

[robust mango]

thats so weird

[gray saffron]

and having to resort to battlelog website

[robust mango]

they cant spoof the steam numbers correct?

[novel light]

Yeaaaah, Battlelog is the only way to bypass it far as I know

[deft hollow]

nope, steam numbers are real

[robust mango]

like steam numbers are accurate

yea okay

[gray saffron]

steam numbers?

[novel light]

Concurrent/peak players, I imagine

[gray saffron]

ah, yeah those ar elegit

it's only server browsers that are affected

bfv by far

[novel light]

Depends who you ask

[deft hollow]

gameplay wise BFV is better IMO

[novel light]

I think here in particular there are fairly strong camps in support of both

[hallow frost]

@solid hinge BF1

[proven charm]

bf1 is my personal favourite but bfv has good stuff too

[novel light]

I enjoyed 1 more, but I still have good fun in V

[proven charm]

as a whole bf1 is much.. much more loved

[deft hollow]

no idea, no one knows anything about it

[novel light]

Well, I have a simple and, I think healthy (if boring) approach

[hallow frost]

gays i need team bf1 ho can play with me

[gray saffron]

wait until you're in the middle of an artillery, a tiger crashes through a house next to you, a spitfire roars over your head, while your buddies get mowed down by an mg42. and then when you didn't think it couldn't get any worse you hear the low rumbles of a v1 heading your way.

[jade dock]

Sniper class succ

[robust mango]

this

[novel light]

I'll start thinking about whether next BF is fun or not when I get to play it

[proven charm]

this can be recreated.. but much better in bf1

[robust mango]

i think that bf6 will be better than people completely expect

[proven charm]

bf1 is just atmosphere central

[robust mango]

Bf1 had the best atmosphere and graphics

[novel light]

In terms of BFV, there is one sound that horrifies me, even though I know it means no danger

[proven charm]

its atmosphere is it's biggest thing

[jade dock]

As soon as you see a white reflection in the distance in BF1 you know you're dead

[novel light]

Plane MGs rattling off the armor of your tank in first person

[robust mango]

heres the thing about 1 that made it so good was that it was gritty

[sullen tree]

What sensitivity do you use on cosole?

[robust mango]

i dont know if they will make bf6 grittty

i wish they made it more mature

[gray saffron]

i disagree.. watching some dude in knight armor with a minigun, some german soldiers heading your way in french/british tanks and then some tanky horse that tanks an anti material rifle shot doesn't really have the same effect :3

[robust mango]

added in a gore system as well

well i will say bf1 had the least immersive vehicles for that time period ever, including the unstoppable horse

[sullen tree]

12 year old little timmys play this game too..

[deft hollow]

anyone here who remembers bf3's "I'm getting my shit pushed in here?" while getting shot?

[proven charm]

That's just biased towards bfv now.. you're going for the ""negatives"" of bf1 rather than its positives that you mentioned of bfv's

[robust mango]

they play call of duty

doesnt stop cod from having gore

and technically a game rated M isnt for 12 year olds

[gray saffron]

ofc, i like bfv ;D

[robust mango]

so it shouldnt really matter

[novel light]

I'd say bigger issue is the relationship between gore and revive systems

[gray saffron]

feel free to give your own bf1 spin to it though

[robust mango]

thats a good point

we could at least have blood

[deft hollow]

this, imagine losing your head and an arm and suddenly getting revived

[novel light]

Seeing as historically in Battlefield you could get picked up from anything except a melee kill or dying in water

[proven charm]

I like it too, but you only went for the unreleastic side for the game you don't like and the releastic side for the game you liked

[robust mango]

i think headshots insta kill you sometimes

so you cant revive

and some explosions

[gray saffron]

make gore system happen when it's an unrevivable shot. like headshots, overrun by a vehicle, tank explosions or whatever

[robust mango]

the explosions that insta kill you should have gore

[novel light]

I think it only applies to cannon headshots

[robust mango]

also like just add in blood

[proven charm]

anyhow, i just love being on the enemy team which said enemy team has 2 clan stacks of pure sweats and a bunch of other random sweats

[novel light]

I kinda don't want gore on roadkills

[queen canopy]

Yep, BF1's atmosphere is easily its strongest aspect

[novel light]

Ragdoll is jokes when you belt someone with a jeep

[deft hollow]

sweating is the way I relax when playing games

[gray saffron]

ok a more bf1 neutral variant then: imagine being a german medic with a boltie in a trench, with horses running towards battle, whistles goes off, but giant as mark v tanks heading your way, blasting all yer buddie saway. and just when you think it can't get any worse, you see twee horsing your way with a flame thrower guy on its back D:

[proven charm]

meh not pure gore, just the crunch sound of your enemies bones :3

[novel light]

Ugh, no bone crunch please

[proven charm]

[novel light]

I hate bone crunch sounds after playing Mirror's Edge

And the current thump is fine as it is

[gray saffron]

the sound of falling in mirror's edge is so brutal too

[deft hollow]

the sound they make when you fall on a street gave nightmares

[proven charm]

https://tenor.com/view/charge-attack-battlefield-battlefield1-attack-charge-gif-7279044

[novel light]

Like, I'm afraid of heights irl

Even Catalyst fall is uncomfortable

Fall in original Mirror's Edge is that cranked up to 11

[wicked tartan]

Any leaks come out yet??

[gray saffron]

i dont recall falling in catalyst

[novel light]

Because they removed the crunch

And instead you just hear Faith exhaling

[mint garnet]

I got 5 kills in an air superiority match 🙂

[gray saffron]

oh yeah

[barren sail]

the issue is that this tone isnt consistent. You get moments like this and then you see someone dressed as santa claus who sounds like tracer from overwatch.

[gray saffron]

' ello guvnah!

[proven charm]

Fancy a spottah tea?

[queen canopy]

Yeah, gore would be a good way to denote unrevivable kills

[barren sail]

Bfv

[queen canopy]

But for like standard deaths, gore should stay to a minimum

Gore should stay to a minimum in general tbh

[gray saffron]

oh god, i just learned there's a broken leg death anim in mirror's edge, what the actualf uck

[sullen tree]

How the fuck someone can stab me suddenly when i try to knife his teammate behind?? Bf4 Knife only server

[novel light]

I've never seen it and I'm happy to keep it that way

[cold trail]

#other-games

[deft hollow]

they won't add gore because of revives, unless there's a revive animations where limbs get reattached with tape

[queen canopy]

Yeah, BFV's atmosphere isn't great in a lot of places, but its gameplay is some of the best in the franchise

[deft hollow]

have you ever seen far rry 2's healing animations?

[novel light]

Yes

[barren sail]

Bf1 is, historically, god awful. It has about as many inaccuracies as V. But it managed to keep all of it's crazy stuff within a consistent, immersive tone to the point where nobody cared.

[deft hollow]

bones are literally bent and the guy fixes them on his own

[placid solstice]

bf5 is probably my favourite bf since battlefield 2 regarding gameplay

[proven charm]

bfv gameplay is nothing compared to bf heroes gameplay 😡

bf heroes best bf game

[jade dock]

Yes but

[gray saffron]

i hope bf6 won't make death sounds of yourself accruciating to hear. mw2019 does that and it just triggers me hard when i die for some reason

[placid solstice]

but best bf is bf2142 none can beat that

[jade dock]

BF1 campaign quotes and cutscenes

[queen canopy]

Yo SWBF2015 best battlefield tbh

[robust mango]

BF2142 is underated

[deft hollow]

lol dude there's nothing like killing a guy with a shot in the head and hearing him scream

[gray saffron]

imagine april fools where battlefront 2 will have pacific maps and battlefield 5 has scariff maps :3

[barren sail]

Id scream too if I was shot in the head and could somehow still scream

[placid solstice]

titan mode best mode

[barren sail]

give us 2242. Bf in space

[gray saffron]

a titan like mode could be cool for bf6

maybe more like an outpost you gotta siege or something

[queen canopy]

BFV definitely has its moments though

[placid solstice]

bf4 had carriers, something like a 2142 titan mode, but honestly it lacked in lots of places, especially servers and players who owned the DLC

[robust mango]

yeah thats based

[gray saffron]

your sounds are so LOUD. do you play with wartapes mixing?

[queen canopy]

yup

war tapes audio since last night

digging it tbh

[gray saffron]

nice

[deft hollow]

carrier assault was somewhat lacking compared to titan mode, but I forgot why

[viral bone]

with the right headphones war tapes sound amazing

[gray saffron]

i used to play all the previous bfs with wartapes

[queen canopy]

gotta get the bass of the explosions to blow out your eardrums for ultimate immersion

[placid solstice]

moving the titan and invading it were huge points

[novel light]

I play all BF games I have with war tapes setup

It just sounds proper good

[barren sail]

give yourself military grade tinnitus for a true ww2 experience

[queen canopy]

yessirrrrrrrrrr

[sullen tree]

Is it possible to enter in rows to server that you kicked before?

[deft hollow]

war tapes sounded crazy good in BF4 with the suppressed qbu glitch

[novel light]

I mean, it did suppress stuff, that's for sure

[gray saffron]

i prefer the 3d headphones mixing in bfv. the ability to hear where your enemies on that mode is insane

[novel light]

I generally had no issues figuring location out with war tapes

[gentle venture]

Wish they went a little more indepth with revives so we could explore it a bit. Like if you get hit directly with a tank shell, a medic isn't gonna come play patty cake and make you all better again

[novel light]

Which helps with how much I play CQC by ear

[gray saffron]

now i want a challenge where someone gets mvp of a server blindfolded

[novel light]

That sounds cursed

[placid solstice]

marco polo?

[median oyster]

Do you guys think bf6 will have bfv or bf4 ttk

[gray saffron]

bfv

good riddance, random bullet deviation!

[median oyster]

That has nothing to do with ttk

[gray saffron]

it affects ttk

[placid solstice]

thing ttk is a bit high in bfv

[sullen tree]

Is it possible to enter in rows to server that you been kicked before??

[median oyster]

It does not affect actual ttk

[deft hollow]

yes, you can get back in queue as long as they didn't ban you

[novel light]

It's not like spread was much of a factor in 4 either

[median oyster]

If you tap fire in 4 then you are good

[deft hollow]

you could completely get rid of spread in 4 by tap firing

[sullen tree]

Trolling the knife only servers with rpgs quite fun

[median oyster]

Facts

@deft hollow

Do you guys think there will be very annoying high pitched screaming in bf6v

[proven charm]

bf4 defo

[placid solstice]

4 brings back bad flashbacks

[novel light]

Even in full auto, outside of fringe cases, even going pedal to the metal didn't really generate much of it

[median oyster]

@proven charm i hope they learned

[proven charm]

bf4 ttk was the peak of the series

[barren sail]

ok. so not only is spread still in bfv, but it was also in bf4 and bf3, and is a basic part of gunplay in most games.

[proven charm]

everything else was a downgrade

[gray saffron]

bf3 was better than 4

[median oyster]

They need to tone down the screaming its pretty dumb

[gray saffron]

bf3 was peak

[deft hollow]

come on now, only the first six months or so were ptsd inducing

[median oyster]

Bf4 was best game in series

[novel light]

I'm fine with TTK slightly on slower side, but I'll adjust anyway

[placid solstice]

I still remember the chopper and gunner having flares and anti lockon for missiles, pretty much unkillable

[barren sail]

ya know, somehow I have a feeling bf6 will be a buggy mess
just a hunch

[proven charm]

I didn't say anything about the games either lol

just the ttk

[deft hollow]

I'd rather have a slower TTK honestly, this is controversial but I enjoyed BFV much more with the TTK changes

[gray saffron]

litterally nothing went wrong with bf3 compared to 4 with its rough start :3 bf4 should've been an expansion for 3

[deft hollow]

especially the way it was changed in dec 2018

[barren sail]

yeah, i stopped playing after they reverted it.

[placid solstice]

2142 had good TTK, 3 bullets and he was out

[median oyster]

High ttk generally rewards bad players depending on the fame

Game

[novel light]

Debatable

[barren sail]

no it doesnt.

[median oyster]

Yes it does

[deft hollow]

It's the opposite if you ask me, slow TTK means that you have to be better at tracking targets, meaning that you need a better aim

[median oyster]

Bfv is not a cover based game

[barren sail]

It makes the game more focused on aiming rather then positioning

[novel light]

Seeing as bad player will normally fail to maintain accurate fire

[median oyster]

@deft hollow it depends on the game really

[novel light]

If anything, the lower the TTK, the lower the risk of spray going wild before kill tends to be

[median oyster]

Bfv isnt a cover based game

If head shots were mor rewarding then it would be

More*

[deft hollow]

it being a cover based game or not has nothing to do with it, though

[novel light]

Good positioning still means the world though

[barren sail]

you dont need to be a cover based game to have low ttks. Apex and Team Fortress are both games with high skill ceiling and low ttk
skill comes from hitting shots and game sense

[placid solstice]

facts

[deft hollow]

BF is all about movement and positioning

[placid solstice]

I still find myself rushing in like a headless chicken and questioning it when I get pinned down

[gray saffron]

team fortress 2 was the best battlefield rush game

[novel light]

My philosophy is simple

[deft hollow]

higher TTK can completely change the game if you know how to abuse the movement system, and it rewards skilled players more IMO

[novel light]

Keep amount of angles you can get shot from as small as possible

[median oyster]

Guys high ttk only takes more skill when headshotd are hravily rewarded

[placid solstice]

hugging a tank that's advancing is always a somewhat ok idea

[queen canopy]

BFV headshots are pretty rewarding...especially with semi autos

[novel light]

And have corners and cover to dance around to isolate 1vs1s better

[barren sail]

nope. in tf2 only 1* class headshots. Still skill based

[novel light]

Apex headshots don't have some mad multipliers either

Especially when taking helmets into account

[placid solstice]

have you tried arma headshots?

[deft hollow]

you can kill the enemy with one less bullet if you hit the head in BFV, it's a pretty huge advantage

[novel light]

In fact, with helmets, Apex has lower HS multipliers than, for example, BFV

[median oyster]

Thats a very small advantage like a 25% multiplier @deft hollow

Most games its double

[novel light]

headshots in V double the damage though

[median oyster]

Oh

[novel light]

With couple exceptions

(buckshot)

[median oyster]

I think high ttk allows people to have bad positioning generally

[placid solstice]

landing a headshot as a medic was always so pog for me even tho I mostly hid and revived people only

[median oyster]

Because they can escape easily

[deft hollow]

not if you can track them well

[novel light]

You won't escape any easier if your positioning is poor

[deft hollow]

which is where skill comes in

[median oyster]

@deft hollow literally not true

[barren sail]

Ok. That doesnt mean it isnt skill based, that means the skill isnt dependent on positioning

[deft hollow]

also, this. if you can escape your positioning isn't bad

[median oyster]

@deft hollow if they are right next to cover they can escape easily

[novel light]

If your positioning is poor, that extra 0.1-0.2s really won't be the difference between you getting to cover and not

[deft hollow]

you're going to have to take risks, if you're close to cover and you manage to escape your positioning wasn't bad

[novel light]

If it's bad, I guarantee you are nowhere near useful cover in first place

[placid solstice]

[deft hollow]

can't always have good positioning 100% of the time

[median oyster]

@barren sail thats like 70% of the game is positioning based

[barren sail]

Letting someone fight back instead of instantly deleting them arguably makes the fight more skill based. Like you actually have to fight this person

[deft hollow]

plus, you can already escape in BFV if you know how to use its movement system well

[novel light]

If you positioned yourself well, you will have a significant jump on them anyway

[deft hollow]

despite the lower ttk

[novel light]

So by the time they even react, you will not have left to do if your accuracy is good

[median oyster]

If you allow people to escape easily like h4 it doesnt rewards skill

[novel light]

And it has to stay good for longer, which, if anything, increases skill required

[placid solstice]

obi wan tactics always win, sometimes

[novel light]

not lowers it

[median oyster]

Even if you have good tracking its still harder to kill

[barren sail]

So is camping. That doesnt mean camping takes skill. Its entirely based on simply having a good position and getting free kills

[deft hollow]

you'd be surprised at how important positioning in battlefield is

[median oyster]

@barren sail even if you have bad positioning high ttk in bfv allows you to escape easily

@deft hollow how would i be surpised when i said it was

[barren sail]

ok. so you actually have to fight people instead of deleting them before they react

[novel light]

Lower TTK doesn't increase the skill, it shifts the weight of which elements of it are more important

[placid solstice]

you shouldn't be allowed to escape if you made too many mistakes and TTK shouldn't save you from them

[novel light]

While, in itself, not making the game any more or less skillful as a whole

[median oyster]

@barren sail i don’t understand how you can defend having an easy espace

@placid solstice exactly

[barren sail]

because trapping someone isnt skill based. Fighting them is

[wicked tartan]

Anyone else feel like some guns in bfv 'throw' bullets when your shooting over 30 meters Ahem mp40

[placid solstice]

they set a trap, you walked into it.. I'd say that's skilled

[deft hollow]

most medic guns shoot nails tbh

[barren sail]

no thats just camping

[novel light]

At same time, if you let them escape due to failing to hit your shots, that means your lower skill with the gun offset their lower skill with positioning

[median oyster]

@barren sail your arguments are so poorly worded

[novel light]

It's a two-way street

[deft hollow]

so is getting shot at, turning behind and killing who's shooting at you

[wicked tartan]

Anything over 40m good luck 😵

[gray saffron]

shooting an mp40 past mid range is gonna feel uncontrollable, but that's worse in 4 or 3 with their heavier spread

[median oyster]

@novel lightso you think h4 sprint was balanced as well then ig😂😂

[barren sail]

im saying that winning an actual firefight takes more skill then catching someone off guard.

[novel light]

Actually, PDWs in 4 were way easier to use than SMGs in V

[median oyster]

@barren sail id you get caught of guard you have bad positioning

[mint garnet]

PDW’s are really easy to use

Especially if it’s the mp7

[median oyster]

@barren sail having good positioning takes more skill than aiming, aiming is not hard

[tacit igloo]

I Iike the rod

[placid solstice]

commander mode was best in 4

[novel light]

Main fallacy is, you are desperately clinging to only one faucet of what constitutes skill in this argument

And completely discarding everything else

[lone karma]

The MP7 absolutely chops through everything. Beast weapon.

[median oyster]

Name the fallacy bet you cant

[placid solstice]

if 1 tactic isn't working, try another, possibly with a tank

[novel light]

Lower TTK demands more from positioning a lot of time, yes

[barren sail]

look, BFV is not a position based game. That would be something like squad, where the guns are not quick enough for quick reactions. BFVs is an arcade, twitch based shooter where aim and recoil matter.

[lone karma]

Any game, any situation. Mp7 will do it for you.

[novel light]

But it also reduces amount of competence you need to have with the gun about equally

[deft hollow]

I think positioning is important in BF, but at the same time bad positioning isn't a death sentence if you're good

[placid solstice]

man knows his battlefield tactics

[novel light]

As you need to land fewer shots

[deft hollow]

in Battlefield you can afford bad positioning if you know how to react

[novel light]

...to an extent

[lone karma]

Sometimes if you run you throw people's aim off lol

[novel light]

Best reaction in the world won't save you if you get caught out in the field

[median oyster]

@barren sail Ik bfv isnt a position based game its literally cod in the sense that you need good movement and aim which is totally counter to every other actually good battlefield game

[celest pollen]

If you can sense fear in the other team and rush them you will literally kill everyone it's not even funny lmfao

[deft hollow]

absolutely, but there are still ways to get out of a bad situation

[barren sail]

this is true for every bf game in the last decade.

[celest pollen]

Even bf1 is liek cod lol

[median oyster]

@barren sail you were really bad then lmao

[novel light]

Well, medic is arguably the class that can "save" itself the most

[lone karma]

What do you mean by position based game? In every game, COD or MW or any shooter you need to watch how you walk and how you expose your body to possibly being shot.

[median oyster]

@barren sail if you played bf4 like cod you died a lot

[queen canopy]

"You don't agree with my point, therefore you're bad lol"

[sullen tree]

Is there thing called prone spammer?

[novel light]

Courtesy of its heavy reliance on smoke

[barren sail]

No, ive just played an actual position based game.

[placid solstice]

medic best class

though medics shouldn't really try to fight as much

[novel light]

...let's ignore how horrendously misused smoke rifles and nades often are

[deft hollow]

not really, despite what many seem to think about this franchise it's not as "tactical" as they believe, in most battlefields (especially BFV) the moment you start running and gunning people literally forget how to move or aim

[tacit igloo]

HC mode or normal?

[median oyster]

@barren sail#033you literally admitted that lower ttk means you need better positioning so not you backpeddled

[deft hollow]

BFV made running and gunning easier

[robust mango]

lower ttk is based

higher ttk bad

[median oyster]

@deft hollow which is counter to every bf

[novel light]

Not really

[median oyster]

@deft hollow yknow the ones people actually liked

[deft hollow]

define every bf? running and gunning has been a viable tactic since BC2

[novel light]

3 and 4 were just as run and gun as V

if not more

[robust mango]

I mean i loved BFV @median oyster

and i think a lot of people actually liked BFV

[novel light]

1 was run & gun with heavier emphasis on close combat

[proven charm]

No HUD BFV is something else tbh

[placid solstice]

as a medic I remember I smoked the enemy that was dug in and hammering us, but because of smoke they finally were able to break in and advance

[queen canopy]

Yeah...think you've got a smudge on your rose-tinted glasses there bud

[median oyster]

@novel light totally wrong, there was low ttk, no slide etc

[robust mango]

its just a circle jerk how many people hate on V

[deft hollow]

you don't necessarily need sliding to run and gun

[queen canopy]

BF1 had a slide, and it was more broken than V's until it got fixed

[deft hollow]

people have been jumping all over the place since BF3

[novel light]

There also were zouzou jumps and multiple other ways to push movement system to the limit

[median oyster]

The bfv sub is a circljerk for everyone that blindly like bfv even though it was a commercial failure

[deft hollow]

jumping was even better in BF4 because of the zou zou jump

[queen canopy]

...have you even been on the BFV sub.

[barren sail]

its not as simple as lowering the TTK. A game like squad adds more weapon mechanics that make running and gunning extremely difficult. The stamina system and weapon sway severely limit it. Bf doesnt have anything like that, you run at full speed constantly and when you stop you can fire your weapon perfectly fine.

[robust mango]

Its not about blindly liking a game lmao

[placid solstice]

bunny hopping was the worst thing in early bf games

[queen canopy]

Maybe because its a casual shooter at heart?

[lilac umbra]

bfv was so fast that sometimes it was near impossible to hit the enemy

[novel light]

Flying without HUD is great as long as you don't have to deal with sweatlords

[barren sail]

yeah, exactly.

[robust mango]

it was a PR disaster. not necessarily a gameplay disaster

[median oyster]

@deft hollow i didnt say itbwas as position based as squad i just said itvwas more position based

[deft hollow]

in my opinion BFV brought the franchise at an all time low, but I think the game is still somewhat decent

[queen canopy]

And therefore should be fast like that?

[icy sluice]

I like hearing the soldiers acknowledging the pings
https://streamable.com/ghqffz

[barren sail]

wym?

[queen canopy]

I've been noticing that recently, its really cool

[lilac umbra]

when you combine fast gameplay+small character model its had to hit

[robust mango]

BFV sold more than hardline and BC2 @median oyster

[placid solstice]

wdym? bfv is one of my favourites so far, especially because no DLC's that make the server 90% empty when the server switches maps to a DLC one

[median oyster]

@deft hollow players online plummeted after ttk changes

[barren sail]

it also had more marketing.

[novel light]

V actually has a ton of small team/squad-related audio cues

[robust mango]

bad marketing

[icy sluice]

I just rarely hear them lol

[robust mango]

the PR is what killed BFV initially

[novel light]

Great once you start noticing them, at the same time I slightly feel for people who had to review them

[barren sail]

true. but more of it none the less.

[median oyster]

@robust mango it was still a commercial failure and hardline wasnt a bf game

[robust mango]

the pre order count dropped like a rock

[deft hollow]

there are some gameplay features and design choices that I dislike, but the game itself is still somewhat fun

I keep coming back to it lol

[novel light]

Because let me tell you, reviewing audio is not fun

[robust mango]

hardline absolutely was a battlefield game

[proven charm]

bfv fucked the franchise advertising wise and marketing wise

[wicked tartan]

With this low to learn from bf6 can't be any worst

[robust mango]

you dont get to pick and choose what isnt a BF game

[median oyster]

@robust mango was not made by dice

[robust mango]

thats not how this works

[barren sail]

hell if anything the PR disaster got more people talking about the game

[robust mango]

is it still part of the BF series?

[queen canopy]

Yeah man TTK changes really killed the game huh lmao dead game amiright

[icy sluice]

Hardline is still a Battlefield game lol

[median oyster]

@robust mango hardly

No

[barren sail]

oh ho ho you are playing with fire with that statement

[robust mango]

Dont cherry pick

[proven charm]

smh there was one on 55

[median oyster]

Not made by dice not battlefield

[proven charm]

dead game

unplayable

[placid solstice]

I always appreciate it when characters talk themselves about situations and you don't have to do it manually, feels more fluid

[robust mango]

you're literally throwing away an entire battlefield all because it doesnt support your argument

[solar cobalt]

what if bf6 was a one to 3 shot kill with every weapon

[median oyster]

Not at all

[novel light]

By all actual definitions, Hardline is a Battlefield game

[wicked tartan]

I'm going in ballsy

[barren sail]

I never said it killed the game, I just dont like them

[placid solstice]

hardline was lit

[robust mango]

Hardline is a part of the battlefield series and is even counted as one in the series total lifelong sales

[icy sluice]

That's like saying CoD WWII wasn't a CoD game because Sledgehammer made it

[median oyster]

@robust mango it was still a commercial failure, commercial success isnt just about sales

[queen canopy]

Dude the TTK got reverted like a whole year ago now

[robust mango]

therefor its a battlefield game

[deft hollow]

I think the ttk changes they made on december 2018 were the best lol

[robust mango]

then that means its all about PR

[queen canopy]

The only places it’s the same are at extreme range, which 90% of the time you won’t engage at anyways

[robust mango]

which bFV had the worst PR for

[novel light]

On whole TTK thing, funny thing is, I don't even have a horse in this race. When you work to master every single weapon like I do, you learn to work with whatever is thrown at you

[barren sail]

That's like saying CoD WWII wasn't a~~ CoD ~~game because Sledgehammer made i

[robust mango]

and PR doesnt determine how good a game is to play

[novel light]

Doesn't matter if it has 180 or 400ms TTK

[queen canopy]

It wasn't even a commercial failure, it sold millions of copies and is the most populated game in the franchise at the moment

[robust mango]

nor does sales actually matter then based on how good a game is using your logic

[median oyster]

@robust mango no it literally missed projections by a millions sells even after a 50% price cut and re adjustments for poor pre orders. They even stopped luve service a year early

[novel light]

You figure out where it works, you push that advantage, rinse, repeat

[robust mango]

the poor pre orders happened after the poor PR

[queen canopy]

That was directed at Cha

[robust mango]

what dont you get

[barren sail]

regardless it didnt meet the sales expectations which is what really matters. They promised investors they would make x amount of money

[robust mango]

they literally had articles about how the pre orders dropped after that PR disaster

[shut bloom]

How do you spam click on console lol

[placid solstice]

only few players have time for that apparently, but I usually just stick to whatever gun I like and that's it

[deft hollow]

you shoot with r1 instead of r2

[queen canopy]

press button fast

[median oyster]

@robust mango it wasnt just pre orders it had horrible first week sales as well

[robust mango]

well obviously

[novel light]

Which is fair, I still have my favorites myself (Bren, Karabin and Grease Gun being the big 3)

[robust mango]

pre orders drop like a rock

poor week 1 sales

gee i wonder

[placid solstice]

I know the gun I used got a nerf and I still made it work for myself, took a bit to get used to

[barren sail]

I wonder how well those cosmetics sold when compared to other games

[sullen tree]

Can someone guide to noob me as a volunteer on dm? I have questions to ask

[novel light]

Yes, I'm aware all my "main" guns are higher on TTK spectrum, but it's offset by me being able to take more types of fights reliably

[deft hollow]

was it the FG42 after the second TTK update? 18 bullets to kill weren't that bad

[placid solstice]

forgot the name, but it was a gun used by basically all medics

[queen canopy]

That got fixed over a year ago

[wicked tartan]

Horribly

[novel light]

Like, yeah, woohoo, great job, you got your Type 2A lad, shame I will outperform it by standing a bit further away

[median oyster]

Do you guys think there will be very annoying high pitched screaming in bf6v

[robust mango]

hopefully

[queen canopy]

Annoying is subjective

[median oyster]

@queen canopy this is why there should be an audio option

[novel light]

Depending on part of game cycle, it would be Suomi or Type 2A, probably

[deft hollow]

I hope so, I want to get tinnitus so that I'll feel even more immersed

[robust mango]

we know for a fact there will be female soldiers, thankfully

[novel light]

Although Type 100 and ZK also come to mind

[placid solstice]

I will check the wiki

[novel light]

maybe M1928

[median oyster]

@robust mango idc if there are frmale soldiers as long as they arent loud

[novel light]

Yay, I basically listed half the SMGs while narrowing it down, good job me

[robust mango]

everyone is loud in bf

[queen canopy]

Yeah, can't being hearing none of them females, amiright?

[median oyster]

@robust mango i agree and its dumb but women are much louder in bfv

[robust mango]

and if you cant hear them ill just scream into the mic so you can hear it

[proven charm]

Reddit moment

[icy sluice]

Yeah all soldiers are loud and shouty

[novel light]

You want loud, listen to defib kill VOs from BF3

Now, that is loud

[icy sluice]

He's right

[robust mango]

dude the defib kills in bf3 had to have been bugged

[queen canopy]

They're literally the same volume, you're just choosing to listen to them more

[robust mango]

they were way too loud

[median oyster]

It shouldnt be so loud and shouty but its the high pitch that gets me

[deft hollow]

you guys clearly didn't play WWII's war mode at launch if you believe women are loud in BFV lol

that announcer still gives me nightmares

[robust mango]

women tend to have a higher pitched voice

soooo

[novel light]

From loc tester perspective, I can 100% guarantee these were fully as designed

[median oyster]

@queen canopy its the high pitch

[icy sluice]

So what you're saying is, people are not allowed to be loud when in pain?

[robust mango]

only women

[icy sluice]

lmao

[queen canopy]

Whaaaat? Women have higher pitched voices? Who'd've thunk it?

[robust mango]

jesus, it sounded like the audio was bugged!

[novel light]

If there is one thing reviewing localization audio taught me, it's that voice actors like to have fun with a bunch of lines at some point

[robust mango]

that makes sense

[median oyster]

@queen canopy nobody screams like that irl it’s ludicrous

[robust mango]

and since defib kills are rare

[icy sluice]

We managed to keep in "Table for five" when counting headshots for Steve Fischer tho

[proven charm]

If your limbs have been amputated by a tank, please remain quiet.

[median oyster]

@queen canopy id you get shot or run over you grunt in pain

[robust mango]

idk i almost lost my hand in a skiing accident and I screamed extremely loud

[novel light]

And it's a very niche VO line group, so yeah

[queen canopy]

Yeah, take a shot to the leg and see how long you can keep quiet about it

[novel light]

You'd be surprised how loud people can scream

[median oyster]

@robust mango i wouldnt expect any less from a non hardened soldier

[robust mango]

I mean i was 13

[placid solstice]

found it, think it was MP34

[robust mango]

so yeah

[icy sluice]

Bro, people get really loud in wrestling and fighting, you think getting shot at would be quieter?

[novel light]

I broke my ankle on a trampoline with another person landing on it as it bent

[median oyster]

@queen canopy i had 22 stiches in my leg from a nail accident I didn’t scream at all

[novel light]

Trust me, I was loud

[queen canopy]

People are known for being nice and quiet and politely waiting for medics when wounded, isn't that right?

[placid solstice]

[median oyster]

@queen canopy i was like 6

[deft hollow]

to be honest it depends, there are reports of many in combat who don't even realize they've been shot at first

[robust mango]

i dont think being a hardened soldier stops people from screaming in pain

[queen canopy]

[deft hollow]

there are others who scream a lot, though

[robust mango]

people on dday were pretty badass and i bet you they screamed

[icy sluice]

D-Day was actually pretty quiet

[median oyster]

@robust mango getting shot doesn’t usually hurt like youd expect most of time you dont even know youve been shot

[queen canopy]

Yes, it was a rather quiet and cordial affair

[robust mango]

well there were no women

[novel light]

A lot depends on individual reaction

And let's be real, you don't exactly train for it

[robust mango]

have you been shot?

[novel light]

Some people will fall into shock and be quiet

Some will scream their lungs out

[median oyster]

@robust mango no but ive heard soldier describe it before

[icy sluice]

Rock bands are typically louder than mass-scale war

[queen canopy]

nah he hasn't but dude he saw like 2 documentaries on the History channel, he knows allllll about war

[crisp salmon]

Some scream like Wilhelm

[deft hollow]

does his uncle work at nintendo too?

[barren sail]

doubt

[crisp salmon]

classic

[icy sluice]

That's the joke :p

[gray saffron]

i just checked it, ump vs mp40 due ump is pretty much the closest to mp40 in bfv in terms of firerate. bfv is definitely harder to control, but your shots will hit mostly where your crosshair is aiming. so if you keep it on your target consistently you get a lot of shots that hit. in bf4, you can pretty much keep your crosshair on the target due the lower amount of recoil, but the random bullet deviation/bloom makes it so a lot of bullets do not hit the target and actually miss it.

[median oyster]

@deft hollow you can literally watch documentaries on it, this is not some hidden knowledge

[icy sluice]

No matter what, the loudest things on Earth are Smash Bro competitive events with their Nintendo 64 controllers, louder than actual Battlefields

[robust mango]

I mean my great grandfather got his leg blown off by a grenade and the pain was something he couldnt put into words so idk

[uneven hollow]

Guys lads come on

Boy bands concerts scream way louder

[median oyster]

@robust mango exactly he couldnt put it into words he had his mouth fucking shut

[novel light]

Yeaaah, my great-gramps brought people screaming up in one of very few letters he left about the war

[deft hollow]

you should know that it's relative to the person and where they've been shot then, some can't even tell they've been shot while others do and they definitely scream

[robust mango]

nah more like the pain was so immense it couldnt be described

[placid solstice]

people spamming MEDIC are the loudest

[novel light]

He fought on Eastern Front, including Seelow and Berlin, so he got to see his share

[queen canopy]

Bruh I was joking when I was talking about the documentaries, whyd you have to unironically say it

[proven charm]

The random bullet deviation isn't as bad as you make it to be

[icy sluice]

A lot of war letters and stuff like that, typically describes screaming as loud and sometimes ear pain inducing

Even when they're not even in pain but panicking

[queen canopy]

[novel light]

And some weapons literally made the point of making wounds as painful as possible

Especially mines of any kind

[median oyster]

@icy sluice i fore real dont give a fuck i just dont want to hear it lmao