battlefield-legacy-titles

[plain crypt]

All my cores at 30

Offset is 180

That's for my gaming profile

[waxen flare]

that didn't apply for bfv

[plain crypt]

Now for performance

45 cpu, voltages default

[trim fulcrum]

What's ur specs?

[solid hinge]

i use ISCL for improving RAM, but shit still lags in bfv and warzone

[plain crypt]

I7-9750H, 32 gigs memory, ddr4

[trim fulcrum]

RTX 3080 i bet

[plain crypt]

Oh rtx 2060

[solid hinge]

i neva used DX12

[trim fulcrum]

How much is a gtx 1070Ti in USA?

[plain crypt]

@solid hinge yes

[vivid rapids]

atleast 5 bucks

[solid hinge]

probably because i use DDR3

[vivid rapids]

dance dance revolution 3?

[plain crypt]

But I just tested bfv full ultra with rtx on I saw no stuttering

Just my fps was cut in half

[solid hinge]

if i set my settings to low i get 40fps and stutters, when i put them to medium-high i get 30-40fps with no sttters

[vivid rapids]

bf5 is weird

[plain crypt]

But fps kept diping no lower then 45

@solid hinge with rtx?

[solid hinge]

no

[plain crypt]

Oh wow

Odd

If I turn off rtx and full ultra 1920x1080@144 I get 100s fps

[solid hinge]

my specs
gtx 1650 4gb vram
8gb ram DDR3
i7-3960X

[vivid rapids]

stop flexing

[plain crypt]

@vivid rapids haha

[solid hinge]

i can run bf1 on ultra for 80 frames

[plain crypt]

That is odd @solid hinge

[solid hinge]

but bfv destroys my pc

[trim fulcrum]

my specs
gtx 650 2 gb
8gb ram DDR3
i5-2400

[plain crypt]

Well 1050gtx is so so probably why

I assume

[kind mortar]

my laptop supposed to run it at 60fps
but it stutters like crazy on multiplayer

[solid hinge]

i assume because i only have 8 gigs of ram

if i get 16 id probably get no stutters

[plain crypt]

@kind mortar yeah I think in general dx12 is very flakey

[random ruin]

ofc

8 gig ram is weak

get 16 and it should be ok

[kind mortar]

rams not available here

its out of stock

[random ruin]

download it

[plain crypt]

Strange thing is, cod cold war I max everything

[kind mortar]

even if turned off

[kind mortar]

this runs well for me

[solid hinge]

if i get a different brand of RAM with my DDR3 would that run ok?

[plain crypt]

Yeah @kind mortar

[trim fulcrum]

what does '' CPU bottleneck '' mean?

[vivid rapids]

you got my old specs

[random ruin]

DDR3?

[plain crypt]

Means your cpu can't keep up

[random ruin]

DDR4 is standard today,

xd

[solid hinge]

yea my pc is outdated

[kind mortar]

normal 1650ti laptop costs 1k dollars here

i wish i had rtx

[random ruin]

laptops are overpriced

They aint even that good and cost so much

[kind mortar]

yep

[trim fulcrum]

im on a freakin 2010 pc here bruh

[kind mortar]

but then my place has frequent power outage so no option

[plain crypt]

@random ruin idk man I have a laptop and so far it runs everything I throw at it

[random ruin]

Welp it depends

but it still is overpriced a bit

[plain crypt]

Yeah

True

[random ruin]

If I got a laptop for the price I got my PC

[plain crypt]

1,400 for mine

[random ruin]

it would be like 30 less fps

[solid hinge]

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjhopnk9qLwAhWeGgYAHQx5ACEYABApGgJ3cw&sig=AOD64_2W3rWL9kz36BiuomBI2ZsCkO9Erw&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwi1x4rk9qLwAhULa8AKHdHEBbQQpysIFQ&adurl=

this one looks promising

[random ruin]

My pc is lie 1.5

[trim fulcrum]

man

[random ruin]

K

[trim fulcrum]

i live in a struggling country so everything here is really expensive thats why im stuck on this shit ass old pc

[kind mortar]

last pc got screwed because of power cuts

[solid hinge]

tell me about it

[trim fulcrum]

well im from pakistan so

[kind mortar]

very very relatable

[proud elm]

[solid hinge]

i used to live in iraq

[kind mortar]

I'm in india

[trim fulcrum]

arayy bhai

[plain crypt]

This is what I just got

[solid hinge]

then moved to UAE where they charge you 100$ for a cheetos sandwich

[plain crypt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079SCFYPF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_YRXT4BAXQWA8T8EW77PY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[solid hinge]

India isnt a struggling country lol

[trim fulcrum]

lmfao

[plain crypt]

The one I just bought

[topaz willow]

do u guys know how to fix the you have lost the connection to the sesson error on bf4?

[kind mortar]

our pcs and gaming stuff is expensive tho

[trim fulcrum]

yes u did lose the connection to the server

[solid hinge]

holy crap this is so decent

[proud elm]

Guys stick to battlefield chat please, if you want to discuss pc's/tech etc, go to #technology thanks 🙂

[ripe arch]

You guys are still worrying about not being able to run BF6? Just get a second hand 1060

[solid hinge]

This is true, in pakistan it is, my cousin says. But i think hes just broke

[kind mortar]

heading there

[trim fulcrum]

I'm from Pakistan too.

[plain crypt]

So right now dx11 no rtx fps is 98-100

[trim fulcrum]

and yes, everything is very expensive

[topaz willow]

yeah but like my internet is fine

[topaz willow]

wrong tag sorry @trim fulcrum

[trim fulcrum]

it's probably a server issue

[kind mortar]

ill probably play 6 on console

also will 6 also have a battle royale?

[trim fulcrum]

br will release next year

[random ruin]

maybe it will

[kind mortar]

not mobile one

[random ruin]

but 99 chance it will

[solid hinge]

Br didnt really work with bf5, even tho i kinda liked it lol

[trim fulcrum]

suggest me the best FPS games for low end pcs

[proud elm]

The battlefield mobile game is due out next year, nothing else has been confirmed regarding BR

[solid hinge]

Valorant

[trim fulcrum]

valorand

[proud elm]

#general

[trim fulcrum]

o ee sorry i thought i was in general from the start lmfao

[plain crypt]

Yeah dx11 ultra no rtx my fps is 90s

[hoary stirrup]

Is anyone else feeling a "calm before the storm" type vibe. We're getting lots of potential "leaks" right now and the whole atmosphere just feels off

[plain crypt]

As of right now

[ripe arch]

Probably because these leaks are unreliable

[random ruin]

reveal date today or tomorrow so

[solid hinge]

I was thrown off by the leaks, everyone was telling me bf6 wud be in vietnam setting beforehand lol

[random ruin]

it still could be

technically

But not really xd

[solid hinge]

Ye but robot dogs?

Xd

[trim fulcrum]

battlefield announcement is on april 30th

[random ruin]

dice loves thursdays though

[trim fulcrum]

its friday tomorrow

[random ruin]

yeah

[hoary stirrup]

Well... today is thursday

[random ruin]

yeaaah

[hoary stirrup]

so we could see something in a few hours

how ya doing gibby

[random ruin]

Either 10PM Sweden time or 3PM Sweden time

good

u?

[hoary stirrup]

great

excited

[random ruin]

yeah

I kinda hope that the reveal date will contain some sort of teaser

[hoary stirrup]

I hope we atleast get something tangible. A release date and just that will make me upset lol

atleast a few images or something

[random ruin]

Yeah

Or just I dont know

Jet flying in the background

[buoyant knot]

The rumors say tomorrow is the teaser but I'm more inclined for today

[trim fulcrum]

it's tomorrow

[hoary stirrup]

Hopefully today. Friday's a weird day

[trim fulcrum]

man, i wish they bring official continental servers

that are good

[buoyant knot]

Thursday is the weekday for announcements

13 minutes to 10AM swedish time

[hoary stirrup]

isnt Dice LA making this tho

Or is it both

either way...

[random ruin]

DICE, DICE LA, Criterion, EA Gothenburg

there u go

[hoary stirrup]

What time do they usually upload

[random ruin]

3PM their time I guess

Either that or 10PM their time

[buoyant knot]

Yeah the blog post was around 3PM

[hoary stirrup]

[proud elm]

Studio's working on this year's title are here, industrial toys are making the Mobile game.

[digital mauve]

what is ea gothenburg doing

[random ruin]

prolly frostbite

or tech

[buoyant knot]

"this year's title" makes it seem like it is a yearly release

[kind mortar]

i hope theyre able to find cheaters

[proud elm]

[buoyant knot]

Ahahaha

[bronze gazelle]

omg

firestorm goin be so lit

when bfv free on ps10

[kind mortar]

happy 5 is on ps plus
now ill just consider ive got pc version for free and bought ps version

[somber tangle]

Nobodys phone is going to survive

[hoary stirrup]

Surprise guys: Battlefield Heros 2 is the mainline title this year. See you guys next year.

[waxen flare]

[solid hinge]

wat

wait if people assume a teaser today, what about timezones

[random ruin]

huh

[main ermine]

this playtime

wtf

[shut gust]

is it urs

[main ermine]

no

someone who annoyed me in my match with his jet

[shut gust]

what game is that

[main ermine]

got like 1k hours if i count all my acc's together

bf4

[shut gust]

well damn

the guy played the same game for 8 years

lol

[random ruin]

Guys there supposedly already was a teaser

that got deleted

[shut gust]

huh

someone surely saved it tho

[random ruin]

Teaser for BF6

Yh but nobody wants to post it anywhere

[compact oxide]

Can't delete anything on the internet

[random ruin]

I asked one dude that saw it

[shut gust]

so what was it

[random ruin]

Hopefully he answers

Idk yet, asked just now

[compact oxide]

It'll be shared if it's a thing which is why it's probably not a thing

[main ermine]

that was my round right now

almost got kicked

[random ruin]

mb it got DMCA'd :)))

[hoary stirrup]

THE TRAILER JUST RELEASED ON TWITTER

[random ruin]

but i doubt

lies

[compact oxide]

Can't take them all down that fast

[shut gust]

lies

[hoary stirrup]

im just kidding im so sorry

[proud elm]

[random ruin]

you should be

[shut gust]

damn you got us good man

i defo believed it

[hoary stirrup]

[solid hinge]

lmao i got a gore mod for bf4

and got banned for it

[hoary stirrup]

Thats a thing?

[random ruin]

I knew he was kidding but got excited nonetheless

xd

[solid hinge]

yeah just google it

[shut gust]

lmao what

is it like cod waw type gore

[solid hinge]

yup

[shut gust]

damn

[solid hinge]

not just as good

it was causing issues with the servers

[hoary stirrup]

Gore in BF6 would be amazing

but I know it wont happen

[shut gust]

they gotta keep it PG

so probably wont happen

[random ruin]

Gore aint coming

Unless they somehow redo the revive system

[shut gust]

yeah i just want it to be like bf1

[hoary stirrup]

Watch them not include China just so they can appease the CCP

[random ruin]

China China..

e

[shut gust]

the revive system in bf1 was my fav

just stab someone with a needle and good to go lol

[random ruin]

Ok guys

[hoary stirrup]

just like real life

[random ruin]

I know what supposedly was in the teaser

[shut gust]

what was it

[compact oxide]

Bf1 medic trains were great

[random ruin]

'Sure, there was like a weapon... and people talking and then BOOM big explosion and thats it'

[main ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-female-gamer-ammo-gif-11476607

[shut gust]

bruh

[random ruin]

better than just a date

Or if its separate then xddd

[lofty sand]

Ppl become so suss as soon as theres a female in the room

Chat

[shut gust]

is there a date for the teaser

[lofty sand]

😂😂

[shut gust]

like an official one

[random ruin]

uh

Teasers are teasers

[lone karma]

looool

[random ruin]

There aint date for that

[lone karma]

for real though why do dudes act like that, like do you think you gonna fuck some girl across the world from you?

[lofty sand]

I laugh internally as i hear their whole persona change🤣

[shut gust]

several people are typing

[hoary stirrup]

but maybe she will send bobs and vagen pics plsssz

[lone karma]

yeah but bobs and vegena pics are online

billions of them

[hoary stirrup]

SHOW BOBS

PLZSZ

[main ermine]

hold up guys

[shut gust]

booba

[main ermine]

thats against discord tos for this server

[lofty sand]

Save up ur $$$$ and get a decent hooker

Pussy is just a phone call

[noble field]

why are tactical conquest so SWEATY

[main ermine]

and the wrong channel for it

[noble field]

every night its SWEATY

every match every lobby

kids camping in corners like its warzone

[hoary stirrup]

Ill just go to Amsterdam where all drugs and legal prostitution

[noble field]

and then you have the 4 man squads sliding with mics

[lofty sand]

Or that

[lone karma]

Amsterdam a good shot

[shut gust]

what game

[lone karma]

or you know... just a club

[hoary stirrup]

Doesn't the movie Hostel take place in amsterdamn. fuck that lol

[lofty sand]

Strip club

[noble field]

battlefield v

[hoary stirrup]

Battlebob V(agen)

[lofty sand]

Avoid the children

[shut gust]

yeah every lobby on that game is a 16 player clan with type2as

[lofty sand]

Nothing better than to play conquest with a pack 😉

[shut gust]

not even fun

[noble field]

its not fun anymore

if you aren't dealing with more sweats you die

to kids camping

you go negative and end up 1st for score

for both teams

sad state of game

[solid hinge]

Funny enough alot of dutch people go to germany for hostels

[noble field]

all that snap aim

[shut gust]

im not meaning to shit on people who are good at the game BECAUSE THEY ARE but bfv doesnt give you a choice to have fun or sweat

the game forces you to try your hardest and then its not fun anymore

[lofty sand]

Battlefield didnt give me a choice to play hardcore with the real vets at launch

[shut gust]

i didnt see issues like that in bf1

[lofty sand]

Since i bought for hardcore and guess what ZERO AT LAUNCH

Got fked over big time

[solid hinge]

I think you can still fuck around a bit on bfv

[lofty sand]

Only for game to be released years later for 12$ with everything plus updates

[solid hinge]

Its harder then it used to be i guess tho

[noble field]

i think battlefield 4 is selling for more

[lofty sand]

Thats a good old fuxking

[noble field]

than battlefield v

still holds up

[lofty sand]

Good thing i got all dlcs for 4

[solid hinge]

Me and most my friends on ps4 have swapped back from bfv to bf4

[shut gust]

battlefield hardline sold more than bfv at launch

[noble field]

lol

[lofty sand]

No hardcore mode no fun bro

Ppl thinking they good driving vehicles in third person

[shut gust]

a t l a u n c h

[noble field]

@lofty sand you dont like shooting someone 100 times

before they drop

isn't that fun

[lofty sand]

Mini map friendly fire off

😂

Kill cam

Lets not forget the sweaty kill cam

Oh hall need a hud to aim?

HARDCORE OR NOTHING MUAHHAAHAH🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[shut gust]

i dont really care that much abt hardcore

[lofty sand]

Sorry early morning

[shut gust]

as long as the game is fun

[lofty sand]

Still havent smoked

[solid hinge]

I prefer hardcore myself aswell

[lofty sand]

I dont think any game is fun where u gotta unload a full clip to kill someone

[solid hinge]

To me personally it feels a bit more immersive

[shut gust]

plus bolt action rifles are op in hardcore

[lofty sand]

My man

[shut gust]

not really that balanced

[lofty sand]

Amen brother we dont need no HUD to know where we are aiming

[solid hinge]

You dont even notice the HUD is gone after a couple games

Best part is no minimap

[lofty sand]

Friendly fire on how is that not balance ... normal ppl spraying at own friends like its nothing where is the realism and immersivness

[solid hinge]

If someone is camping i can sneak up on em they wont have a clue

[lofty sand]

I go for shooters that have some send of realness and imersivness ... unlike fornite and apex

Sense

Cartoon shooters

[lone karma]

Hardcore is really fun but in BF4 in particular I think having a increased damage multiplier yet the same shooting mechanics doesn't really add up considering you can aim very accurately when in real life that would improve with time

[lofty sand]

3 to the chest and one to the head wtf more do u want

[lone karma]

If they'd include some aspect of that getting to know the gun and weapons that could be interesting

[lofty sand]

2-3 depending on gun

[prime pine]

Hardcore is ok

[lofty sand]

I dont like games where i gotta unload a full clip to kill 1 guy

Thats normal on all shooters for u

[lone karma]

I pop people in hardcore like crazy with a sniper, you can't aim like that in real life

[tender wagon]

I don't like snipers always one shot me where I can't see them.

[prime pine]

But you don't need to unload a full clip

[robust mango]

is there anything in BF4 that has actual recoil

[prime pine]

Yeah that's the biggest issue with hardcore. Some random can sit back with a sniper and get easy kills.

[lofty sand]

I dont like ppl thinking they good in a game mode that allows u to shoot ur friends .. allows u third person cehicles ... gives u a map... kill cam and ppl still suck 😂

[robust mango]

every single gun has like 0 climb

[quartz geyser]

Yeah, the snipers LOL

[lofty sand]

Hardcore for the better players sorry

[robust mango]

thats it lmao

jesus how did people like this gunplay

[lofty sand]

Thats a snipers job?

[prime pine]

It was a product of its time it seems.

[quartz geyser]

PSSSTTT

PSSSTTT

PSSTTT you get the point

[lone karma]

What if they added sway to aiming? So say when you use ADS it moves to mimic the adrenaline you'd feel in the actual situation

[prime pine]

Would love to have a proper hardcore server in OCE whereas SLRS, Bolties and Carbine bolties are banned.

Even faster action

Sway would just makes thing even more annoying in the end

[quartz geyser]

God no, it'd be just an annoyance

With suppression, maybe? Would make support useful

[prime pine]

Ehhhh Support is still useful in that their guns have more accuracy*

Excluding bf3 and 4 mgs

[solid hinge]

Ive never had a huge problem with snipers in hardcore

[lofty sand]

Normal mode is for casuals

[solid hinge]

If they kill me once or twice they will become a fun target to hunt

[robust mango]

hardcore imo isnt really a good idea in battlefield games

the concept prevents the opposite of how the game is designed to be played

[lofty sand]

Ppl questioning their skills

[solid hinge]

I love hardcore more then the regular mode

[lofty sand]

Anen brother

[prime pine]

It's an ok thing as i stated earlier. Just lends its way to more rats with snipers which is annoying.

[robust mango]

i mean i would love HC more too if i was just playing recon 24/7

[lofty sand]

Keep on that casual server then

[solid hinge]

There really arent as much snipers in hardcore as you guys are making out rigth now

[lofty sand]

With ur maps hud and third person vehicles

[solid hinge]

Ive played loads of hardcore its way more common for people to walk around with marksman rifles

[lofty sand]

Theyre clearly not hardcore battlefielders

[robust mango]

lmao

[prime pine]

I can see a semi working

[solid hinge]

big chung

[lofty sand]

Look at me i need a hud to know ma bullets always traverse to the middle of my scren

[prime pine]

If lenient latency was a thing on bf5 i would be over in the U.S trying other things out

[lofty sand]

I need a map to know where enemies are

[robust mango]

i mean if you think BF hardcore is a hardcore shooter, its really not even that. the hud not being there isnt some challenge and all it is, is people running around way less and camping. the skill elitism of the HC community doesnt surprise me

[solid hinge]

You should play more hardcore

[prime pine]

Even if the minimap didn't point out spotted enemies. It's still incredibly useful for general direction. Hence minimap.

[lofty sand]

I need slow as fk TTK that gives me a chance to fight back 🤣🤣🤣

[solid hinge]

There arent that much campers

[lofty sand]

Press and hold start?

[prime pine]

I said hence minimap for your general area.

[robust mango]

same logic applies to HC tho

[solid hinge]

I prefer to have to use your sound to find out where the action is

[lofty sand]

K u made it sound like u need it there showing at all times

Hardcores TTK id fast

[robust mango]

i need a very fast TTK because i can't keep my aim consistent

its the same logic

[lofty sand]

Please

I need fast ttk because everytime i flank 3 soldiers ill never get a triple kill

[robust mango]

i like a fast TTK, but with the way BF plays, HC just makes the game operate in a completely different way

[lofty sand]

Since normal takes 100 of bullets to kill someone

[solid hinge]

Whenever I fly a heli someone messes me up under 10 seconds

[lofty sand]

Its all about situational adrenaline

[robust mango]

depends what game you're playing

[lofty sand]

I should be able to kill 3 ppl fast if i flank em with a machine gun

[robust mango]

in BFV you can absolutely flank and get more than just a triple kill

[solid hinge]

I personally experience more cinematic battlefield moments in hardcore then i do in regular

More people working teamplay

[lofty sand]

Nd not wast all ma amo on one and notnhave enough for the 2 others

[robust mango]

you can get even more with a LMG in BFV flanking

lmao

[solid hinge]

More teammates rushing together

[robust mango]

idk what game you're talking about

[prime pine]

I do like how in bf5 even in -core how it places a larger emphasis on sound

[robust mango]

but you're probably talking about the older BF games

[lofty sand]

Bro non hardcore gamers think theyre so good its funny

Keep p’aying in ur lobbies filled with 8 year olds

[solid hinge]

I play hardcore on bf4 still

[lofty sand]

While i play with men

Bf4 hardcore is still popping

[solid hinge]

I have deleted bfv after the ttk change where guns become peashooters

[robust mango]

you must be trolling

[lone karma]

Men?

[robust mango]

lmao

[lone karma]

You mean probably 21 year olds who live with their parents?

[prime pine]

This topic isn't going anywhere productive. Let's move on.

[robust mango]

if you're actually bragging about playing a hardcore game mode in an 8 year old game, thats a big yikes

[prime pine]

How is the Fg42 working out for Zy?

[lofty sand]

Im 29 i dont fk with 21 year olds who still live at home

[robust mango]

FG42 good

[prime pine]

Fg42 go Brr

[solid hinge]

Who is braggin?

[robust mango]

i still stick to medic so im hoping BF6 lets us share weapons

[lofty sand]

I play hardcore on bf5 too wassup

No i brag i play hard on all ma shooters

Hence why i dont play fornite or apex

[prime pine]

Have you tried the Zk, Zy?

[lofty sand]

Children ganes

Games

[robust mango]

Yeah i like the ZK

[robust mango]

do you play CS?

[prime pine]

It's a weird little gun but very effective nothingtheless

[solid hinge]

I like the movement of apex

[lofty sand]

Im suppose to respect a grown ass man who plays a game that ma nephew just had a bday theme of it 😂

TTF2 > apex

Ur playing the wrong game

[prime pine]

I do hope the general gunplay and movement of bf5 with the ping system comes to the next battlefield.

[solid hinge]

Havent really played apex in a year or 2

[lofty sand]

If u like apexs movement try TTF2

[robust mango]

yes

[lofty sand]

Apex is TTF2 disney version

[robust mango]

and the revive system

[lofty sand]

U want the MEN version get TTF2 its on sale

And on may 1 the player count will go through the roof

[solid hinge]

When i get online these days i usually just play some bf4 or warzone i dont really game enough to play alot more games

[lofty sand]

Apex is for kids

[lone karma]

I've just started playing a game called Elite Dangerous

[lofty sand]

Might as wel play spellbreal

[solid hinge]

Im waiting for dying ligth 2 tho

[lofty sand]

Great game

[lofty sand]

Dying light 2

[lone karma]

Don't really play BF4 too much just waiting for BF6 now

Might even get BFV

[lofty sand]

Dying light was so good

[robust mango]

BFV was amazing

[lofty sand]

Dont

[solid hinge]

I loved bfv when it first came out

[lofty sand]

BfV doesnt have hardcore

[robust mango]

Doesnt need it

[lofty sand]

Nd before u say community server

[robust mango]

TTK is plenty fast

[lone karma]

I don't mind it just looks decent from the gameplay

[lofty sand]

Thats not hardcore

[solid hinge]

I was dissapointed bfv didnt get the support they said it was gonna get

We got shite maps

[robust mango]

Lol it doesnt even need a hardcore mode

[lofty sand]

ww2 always awsome

It does when ppl still thinknthey good for driving in third person

When ppl think using a hud is fine 😂

[robust mango]

who uses vehicles in battlefield?

[lofty sand]

Ppl who dont play cod

[solid hinge]

will dx12 give better fps for a 3080?

[lofty sand]

And dont just run and gun

[solid hinge]

Running and gunning is where its at tho

[lofty sand]

Nd play battlefield how its suppsoe to be pplayed

Im sorry if ur just an infantry soldier

[solid hinge]

I can play vehicles

[prime pine]

Dunno Shay, Go to tech.

[robust mango]

uh battlefield is supposed to be played aggressively

[lofty sand]

The real gs

[solid hinge]

In bfv vehicles just feel cheesy tho

[pine cave]

Back to basics mode in bf1 sounds fun. But when you play it, it’s very unbalanced

[lofty sand]

I can be aggressive in my tiger or sherman

[robust mango]

BFV the vehicles can actually die to infantry

[lofty sand]

Cuz its normal mode

[lone karma]

You know what feels really cheesy

[robust mango]

unlike BF1

[lone karma]

Sliced cheese

[lofty sand]

Cuz ur playing on normal

[lone karma]

Best shit ever

[robust mango]

BF is supposed to be played hectic and aggressively

its not really meant to be played super slow

[solid hinge]

Yeah bf is supposed to be a active warzone rigth

[robust mango]

its supposed to be a "battlefield"

[lofty sand]

If inplay bf5 like i would play cod i might as well play cod

[plucky kite]

uhh potential announcement tomorrow?

[solid hinge]

It feels best with rockets flying everywhere jets flying overhead choppers dropping squads at flags

[lofty sand]

BF gives the feeling of an actual war

[robust mango]

but BFV doesnt play like cod

[lofty sand]

Feeing cod still has yet to give

[solid hinge]

It makes you feel like a part of something bigger unlike cod

[robust mango]

BF4 feels more like cod to me than BFV does

[lofty sand]

Amen brother

[robust mango]

BF4 the weapons have 0 recoil

[lofty sand]

I mean u do play bf on normal

[robust mango]

you point and the gun never climbs or moves off to the side

[lofty sand]

Dont blame u it feels like cod

[scenic tide]

Why i cant send pictures..

[robust mango]

I play both

[solid hinge]

I can control bfv recoil better then bf4

[robust mango]

you know theres HC in cod?

[prime pine]

We dunno Askon

[robust mango]

that makes no sense

[lofty sand]

The hardcore in cod is arcady tgo u cant compare

[robust mango]

theres 0 recoil in BF4, theres no recoil to control

[lofty sand]

On shot kill fk that

[solid hinge]

On bf4 i have felt the need to put my gun on semi on bfv i just usually tap fire or spray

[bronze gazelle]

omg

[lofty sand]

Cod is arcady all together

[dusty atlas]

anybody playing bf1?

[prime pine]

If they completely eliminate spread =/= recoil in the next game and make it purely control based i'll be so glad.

[bronze gazelle]

like super excited more players will be on feersturm when bfv free on ps4

[prime pine]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[prime pine]

Gaz

[lofty sand]

U cant compare the hardcore in cod and hardcore in bf

[robust mango]

HC in Cod is actually harder than HC in BF tho. the maps are smaller in cod, in BF, you can sit hundreds of meters away and shoot someone with a DMR/Sniper, which is what the majority does

[lone karma]

Real men register to the army instead of playing games about war, prove me wrong tho

[dusty atlas]

you cant compare cod to battlefield in general

[bronze gazelle]

yeah in cod everthings pretty much a 1 bullet in cod

[solid hinge]

Not true

[bronze gazelle]

but sometimes its like that in bf

[robust mango]

how is that not true

[lofty sand]

Sounds like a lot of run and gun and camping

[scenic tide]

Lol bf1 standard edition is 18 dollar now and the revolution edition with all the stuff is only 8 dollar now lol never before seen that the premium edition is more cheap then the standard edition

[robust mango]

thats literally what you do in BF HC

anytime ive played BF HC i play recon

[bronze gazelle]

@scenic tide happens all the time

[solid hinge]

Ive played loads of hardcore i rarely get killed by campers

[bronze gazelle]

really weird

[lofty sand]

BF - actual war cod - catered to children

[robust mango]

because thats what 60-70% of people are doing

[dusty atlas]

bf4 premium on the ps store was cheaper than normal once

[robust mango]

well snipers arent campers

[solid hinge]

Only on maps with tall buildings

[scenic tide]

Lol. Maybe its an new marketing technic hehe

[robust mango]

how else do you expect them to have an advantage

[lofty sand]

Finally some comon sense

[robust mango]

do you want a bolt action to run at you

[lofty sand]

Yes snipers are rlly not campers

[solid hinge]

You know what i mean tho

Loads of people running around in hardcore

[robust mango]

but when 70% of the server runs recon, the majority of the team is sitting back

[scenic tide]

I really think bf6 will come on 4 may because the sale is until 4 may sus

[lofty sand]

Theyre suppose to stay in one spot and move of course but they dont move much u cant call a aniper a camper

[lone karma]

Also in HC you don't need to sniper camp since you basically have one shot kill so you can run and gun pretty easy

[robust mango]

^

you just use a DMR

[dusty atlas]

yeah

[lofty sand]

In cod u mean

[robust mango]

and sit way back

[lone karma]

Nah in BF hardcore

[robust mango]

and people will just literally walk around and you never even need to aim for the head

[solid hinge]

Bruh you clearly havent played alot of bf4 hardcore

[lofty sand]

I use dmr MKMoD11

[robust mango]

yep and its 1 shot kill

[lofty sand]

The fk

[solid hinge]

I litterally have had more cinematic moments in hardcore then normal mode

[robust mango]

no need to aim anywhere in particular either

[lofty sand]

Bro bf4 hardcore has no one shot kill unless u got that high tier gun or shotty

[solid hinge]

Its a 2 shot below chest

[lofty sand]

Wtf

[dusty atlas]

bruh battlefield 1 dead as hell holy shit

[solid hinge]

In chest maybe even

Not sure

[lofty sand]

2-3 to the chest 1 to the head HOW ITS SUPPOSE TO BE

[scenic tide]

Wow and plants vs zombies gardenwarfare 2 is only 4 dollar now lol such a good deals always come when i dont have money....

[robust mango]

i dont see how you've had more cinematic moments when people in normal literally just run around, explosions everywhere and people driving directly into the enemy

[lofty sand]

Ive had more cinematic moments on hardcore yes cuz again i dont play with kids

[robust mango]

hardcore is literally about people not wanting to die

[solid hinge]

Because from my experience the team seems more organized in hardcore

Like were trying to work together

[bronze gazelle]

woah bros

[lofty sand]

16 player party

[bronze gazelle]

i wanna play london calling on bf1

[robust mango]

ive never heard anyone use a mic in hardcore

[bronze gazelle]

thats crazy just air to air

combat

[robust mango]

never heard any comms in HC before

[lofty sand]

U need more friends

[robust mango]

uhhh lmao i dont

[solid hinge]

Ive actually had less moments where there is a stalemate because of people refusing to rush in hardcore

[robust mango]

i have plenty of friends

[solid hinge]

Thats why i turned to hardcore

[robust mango]

just most of them are IRL and not over the internet

[solid hinge]

More action

[lofty sand]

Bruh theres always someone with a mic

Oh fk ya ping way low

[bitter comet]

anyone wanna play? na servers

[robust mango]

theres actually less action in HC, its way more quiet

[solid hinge]

Spoken like someone who doesnt play it

[lofty sand]

Wtf is he talking about

[robust mango]

everyone has suppressors and everyone is pretty much slowly moving

[solid hinge]

He has no clue bruh

[robust mango]

im also not a he

[solid hinge]

He is just talking what he thinks hardcore is

[robust mango]

so idk who you're talking about

[lofty sand]

Why dont u join a 64 full lobby in sgangai or hangar 21 and tell me it still feels empty 😂😂

[robust mango]

never said it feels empty

its just less action

[solid hinge]

Join operation metro hardcore at the same time on another ps4 join a normal game

[lofty sand]

❌

[robust mango]

people are way less aggressive in hardcore than normals, how is that not obvious

[solid hinge]

Guaranteed way more stalemates in the normal game

[lofty sand]

“Quiet “

[solid hinge]

100% guarantee

[robust mango]

it is more quiet

[lofty sand]

Ninja gaiden 3 has opened ma eyes to playing games on hardwr difficulties and not playing casual ever again

[robust mango]

like i said, people run suppressors, a larger population sit back, and the frontline moves more slowly

LOL

ninja gaiden 3 wasnt even HARD

holy shit

[solid hinge]

I have never experienced hardcore like that in my 8 years of playing bf4

[robust mango]

ninja gaiden black was the one that was actually a challenge

[lofty sand]

Ill stick to ma bF1 and bfv planes and bomb em all

[boreal goblet]

its nearly may

[lofty sand]

I raged so hard

For hours

[robust mango]

I dont play in vehicles in BF games

thats a definite no no

[lofty sand]

Ur missing out g

[solid hinge]

I quite liked helicopters in the older ones

[lofty sand]

Its a warfare

[pine cave]

What is HC?

[robust mango]

nah vehicles i think is way too easy and boring

[lofty sand]

Cant just be infantry all the time

[solid hinge]

I got quite good at rpging them down aswell

[lofty sand]

But if thats ur deal cool

[robust mango]

if you're in vehicles its just an easy walk in the park

[crystal obsidian]

a mix of both is always good

[lofty sand]

Ill make u parachute of the chooer then

Other hardcore vehicle drivers are rlly good too u know

So no its not a walk in the park

[solid hinge]

Vehicles in the newer battlefield games are overpowered in my opinion

[lofty sand]

Walk in the park would be driving a vehicle in third person

[robust mango]

i wouldnt call anyone in a vehicle especially a tank, hardcore at all

[lofty sand]

Thats easy

[robust mango]

being in a tank is easy

[solid hinge]

And the tank used to be op in bf4

[robust mango]

in general

with all the turret view slots they have in tanks

[lofty sand]

M1 abrahams bro

Killing machine

[robust mango]

people pretty much have full view if they have a full tank

[crystal obsidian]

I don’t think bf4 tanks are op

[lofty sand]

Third person?

[crystal obsidian]

Easy to kill

[solid hinge]

If i had the sabot on that thing it was basically anti air

You could shoot choppers like its nothing

[lofty sand]

Fr im an anti tanker

2 -3 bazzookas and done

[lofty sand]

Always love doing that

[solid hinge]

Yeah if you play in a squad its always easy to take out vehicles

Just plan it well

But on bfv the tanks that camp spawn are annoying as hell

[lofty sand]

Vehicles take realistic damage in hardcore so telling me its hard to take one down being an infantry is kinda an insukt to my anti tanker gameplay

[robust mango]

ehhh i dont think thats true

[lofty sand]

Bf4 engineer dmr mkmod 11 anti tanker

Shaw rockets or smaw whatever it called

[solid hinge]

Scar sv is quite good aswell

[robust mango]

BF1 hardcore the tanks take more than 1 AT to die out

[lofty sand]

Trying to unlock

[robust mango]

WW1 tanks were notoriously trash

[lofty sand]

Bf1 hardcore is still active???

[robust mango]

when it was

[solid hinge]

Definetly a fun gun to use

[lofty sand]

Oh ya we all know that

Ww1 tanks weere paper

[robust mango]

as long as bf6 is nothing like bf4 ill be happy

[lofty sand]

The ppl inside the tanks drinking in all that smoke

[solid hinge]

As long as bf6 is modern time im happy

Thats all need from a battlefield

[lofty sand]

They will make it post apocalyptic terminator style

[solid hinge]

And hardcore

[lofty sand]

Remember those words

[lone karma]

hey bf4 is a piece of art

[lofty sand]

Only shooter series that makes mee feel inna real war

[solid hinge]

Bf4 had its problems at launch but it definetly feels like one of the best rigth now

[lofty sand]

Once ps5 comes in im trying ENLISTED THO

Hardcore mode automatically

No hud no map

Friendly fire

I cant wait

[lone karma]

I just installed enlisted

[cedar fern]

Enlisted seems bad

[lofty sand]

Gaijin

[solid hinge]

How is it?

[lone karma]

I ain't played yet lol

[lofty sand]

Any game that gives me something new to try ill give it a try

[lone karma]

Looks good from gameplay

Very fast ttk

[lofty sand]

Gaijin are know for having a casual game mode and a SIMULATION MODE

[lofty sand]

Love that

I love how ppl put aim accuracy as an excuse for fast ttk being bad... oh u just cant kee ur aim on one guy... buddy i just killed 3 soldiers in one swoop how is my aim bad??

Put me as the weirdo/bad guy cuz i dont wanna play a mode where i gotta empty my clip at u to kill u

🤣🤣

[robust mango]

Enlisted is literally garbage

[lofty sand]

Keep that shit for third person shooters

[shut gust]

cap

[lofty sand]

I like my war games realistic and immersive

[robust mango]

idk why you're saying cap

i was in that game since alpha

its literal garbo

and its because gaijin has no freaking clue how to make AI

[lone karma]

If you say it's garbage chances are it's good

[shut gust]

yeah

lol

[robust mango]

nor do they have any understanding on how AI operates in a battlefield itself

[shut gust]

its still in beta

[robust mango]

idk why you say that

[lofty sand]

I love how ppl put aim accuracy as an excuse for fast ttk being bad... oh u just cant kee ur aim on one guy... buddy i just killed 3 soldiers in one swoop how is my aim bad?? Put me as the weirdo/bad guy cuz i dont wanna play a mode where i gotta empty my clip at u to kill u

[shut gust]

give it a break

[robust mango]

I would have given it a break

[lofty sand]

If its coming from the guy who thinks hardcore is shit then ya

[robust mango]

if the changes from alpha to beta over the course of 8 months werent so bad

[lofty sand]

Must be good

[hoary stirrup]

508 messages since an hour ago, jesus you guys what did I miss

[robust mango]

HC in BF is shit, i didn't say tactical shooters were bad

[shut gust]

its pretty hard developing a game you know that right

[lone karma]

Anyone heard of a game called back4blood?

[shut gust]

and since its till in beta it will probably improve in the full release

[robust mango]

Its not about the difficulty of developing a game

[lofty sand]

Gaijin triple aaa atudio??

[robust mango]

its whether or not the game is good or bad

how is that hard to get

[lofty sand]

I dont think gaijins a triple aaa studio is it

[robust mango]

Gaijin is at this point like a Double AA studio

its not a AAA

[lofty sand]

Hmmm

[shut gust]

my point is the games AI will most probably be improved by the time it fully releases

[robust mango]

its almost like you think no game company can make a bad video game anymore because its a game you personally are interested in, but unless you've put in a ton of time into that game idk why you'd defend it

well ill say this

theyve had 8 months to fix the same problems with AI

and guess what

its still going on

[lofty sand]

8months wow

Ai i thougt it was majorly player populated

[robust mango]

LOOOOOOOOL

[lofty sand]

R u telling me enlisted is not even multiplayer?

[shut gust]

it is

[lofty sand]

Omg

Hahaha

[robust mango]

enlisted is a 10v10 game

you have 10 players on each team

[shut gust]

but im pretty sure its 16v16 and each player controls a squad of 4 people

[robust mango]

and each team controls a squad of AI

[lofty sand]

10 v 10 wtf neeexxxt

[robust mango]

the size of your squad

is like max 9 people

and you switch between squad members when you die

[lone karma]

This is a review someone posted of it I had hoped that the time spent in Game Preview would lead to Darkflow fixing the movement and aiming systems. I never had much hope for how the squad system would work with the free-to-play nature of the title, but if the gameplay were solid then I could still recommend giving it a shot. In the end though this is a bad playing, poorly set up, mediocre-looking game that you should avoid unless you’re desperate to go murder a bunch of poorly scripted AI with some friends. Though only since it’ll be free to play.

[shut gust]

well at least unlike bfv the game feels like ww2

[robust mango]

so what do people do? they tell their squad to hold position in basically the forests or a building

and run out and try to kill other players AI

[shut gust]

you gotta give it that at least

[robust mango]

see

like i said

you know a game is bad when someone wouldnt even play it UNLESS it was f2p

[lofty sand]

Has to have more than 10v10 what is that

16 v 16 at least man

[robust mango]

and also, if you're up against a player who BOUGHT his way into access, his squad soldiers have a higher health pool than someone playing for free

[robust mango]

that is 100% not true

[lone karma]

Have yall tried playing Holdfast?

[robust mango]

even with BFV's historical inaccuracies

it still plays much more like an actual fucking battlefield

than having a bunch of AI camp in the woods

[shut gust]

enlisted isnt a fucking battlefield game is it

[robust mango]

and having a ton of AI staring at eachother

crouching and laying down randomly in doorways

not moving

uhh the game itself boasts that it sets up hectic ww2 like battlefields

[lofty sand]

No can do 10v10 might as well play cod

[robust mango]

and it doesnt do any of those things

[lone karma]

Nah but it's got a interesting battlefield vibe to it

[shut gust]

again how many times. the game is in beta testing and the game literally tells you at the start that some features wont work as planned

[robust mango]

im aware of the stage that its in

[lofty sand]

Are vehicles even allowed?

[robust mango]

but there are games in alpha that are in a better state

[lone karma]

I don't think so

You have a musket

[shut gust]

in terms of immersion i think its pretty realistic in terms of atmosphere

[robust mango]

hell if you want a 50v50 battlefield esque game where its like 1 shot kill with a rifle, just play Beyond the Wire

its not immersive with the AI there

[shut gust]

atmosphere

[robust mango]

thats part of the atmosphere

[lofty sand]

Shit ill stick to bf

[robust mango]

how the soldiers look and move

and how the guns fire

that all turns into atmosphere

if you want an immersive shooter in some aspect

like i said

just play WW1 Beyond the Wire

if you like "hardcore"

since you're dead in a single shot to the chest from any rifle

hell you can pretty much die being shot in even the stomach instantly

even 1 shot from a revolver

[shut gust]

yeah because thats probably what would happen if you got shot irl

[robust mango]

that game is like in .1 alpha stage and its in a better state than enlisted

[solid hinge]

Ah the times before body armor became a thing ay?

[robust mango]

letting you know now if anyone bought their squad or has the health perk attached to their squad, it takes 2 Kar98 shots to kill them in enlisted

and what happens in that game?

you get shot

and then you get downed

and then a squad mate can get you on your feet

then you need to shoot them again so they die

[shut gust]

i feel like its still best to actually wait until the full release

[solid hinge]

I dont play on pc anyway

So i cant even play it

[robust mango]

YIKES

how were you talkin about Hardcore shooters when you play console

theyre mostly all on PC

[solid hinge]

I was talking about battlefield

[shut gust]

if ur talking about enlisted its on ps5 and xbox series s/X

[robust mango]

enlisted is crossplay

so you will be up against PC players

and you will be clapped

[solid hinge]

I can fuck up pc players in warzone so i dont mind

[shut gust]

actually thats the one thing i dont like abt enlisted. everything else is fine imo

[robust mango]

thats because Cod Aim assist is unreal snappy

the aim assist in enlisted doesnt work well for console players

[grand rose]

?????

뭐지

[robust mango]

theyve actually complained about it since november

[grand rose]

뭔소리지

무슨소리지

[solid hinge]

Aim assist in cod is not that snappy

[robust mango]

why dont you like that part?

[solid hinge]

In warzone atleast

[grand rose]

???

[robust mango]

its the one way they keep the games population alive tbh

[shut gust]

pc players will just shit on console players

[grand rose]

ㅋㅋㅋ 있다 이렇게 보고 있는데요 선관위에 위탁을 하는 날 나를 바라보는 것 이라며 특히 유출 자료를 한꺼번에 공개하지 않았다 하더라도

이미 지난 시즌 첫

메이저 대회에서 가장 뜨거운

것은 아니다 이렇게

[prime pine]

@grand rose English please.

[solid hinge]

What?

[shut gust]

stfu

[grand rose]

못박고 국회가 할 것이다

[solid hinge]

I dont play cod besides warzone

[robust mango]

i mean thats kind of natural though, keyboard and mouse are always better for skill based anything

and now with how everyone has asked for crossplay

for years for multiplayer games

[grand rose]

[robust mango]

they suddenly realize they dont want it anymore

[shut gust]

yeah thats my point.

[lone karma]

Mods

[solid hinge]

Movement is just to fast on pc

[prime pine]

Bot got him

[shut gust]

nice

[prime pine]

Carry on peoples.

[robust mango]

i mean if you want to play hardcore shooters like you said

[lone karma]

He was pasting some korean propaganda I translated it

[robust mango]

i thought this entire time you were on PC lmao

[solid hinge]

I mean in the way of pressing buttons on a keyboards vs moving a joystick

[robust mango]

yeah but the movement in PC will always be better

[shut gust]

yeah. Sliding is so much easier on bf1 on pc

[robust mango]

a mouse is just an extension of your arm

[solid hinge]

Yeah and i guess a mouse is a household item aswell rigth

[robust mango]

view range on a controller is limited vs a mouse

[solid hinge]

I always kindoff knew how to use a mouse

When i first used a controler i was dogshit

[robust mango]

yeah i just figured since you talked a lot about playing strictly hardcore

i thought you played games like Tarkov

[gilded zenith]

everyone knows how to use a mouse

[robust mango]

since tarkov is actually a hardcore shooter

[solid hinge]

No i just play console hardcore on battlefield

[shut gust]

tarkov sucks imo

[robust mango]

Tarkov is good you just need to get used to it

[solid hinge]

I havent really talked about other games here as far as i can remember

[shut gust]

bruh you spawn in no map no nothign you dont even know what ur supposed to do

[robust mango]

okay i assumed because the way you were talkin about other players being "casual"

[solid hinge]

I didnt call anyone casual

[robust mango]

[shut gust]

there has to be a balance between fun and realism in games like that.

[robust mango]

you told me to go be casual with my HUD

[solid hinge]

Your confusing me and the other guy that also liked hardcore

[robust mango]

uhh you loot and kill scavs and other players

at least watch a guide tutorial on the game if you dont get it

the game doesnt hold your hand with anything

[shut gust]

i shouldnt have to watch a guide to play a game when i first start off

[robust mango]

do you know if he plays on console as well

because if he only plays BF HC, thats not really anything he should have got a big head about

[solid hinge]

Im not to sure what he plays on

[robust mango]

since hes not really playing a majority of where the HC shooters are

[robust mango]

welcome to what hardcore shooters are like tbh in those terms

you could always ask someone who plays

[shut gust]

im not saying the game should hold my hand or anything. Im saying that there should be at least indications of wtf im supposed to be doing. That was my point about balance between realism and fun

[robust mango]

the game is unforgiving

that entire game is you load into a map

[shut gust]

yeah and games are suppsoed to be fun

[robust mango]

either daytime or night

[solid hinge]

I was just talking about how i prefer bf hardcore because it has more action

[robust mango]

it is fun, it just depends what you personally find fun

[shut gust]

yeah

[robust mango]

if you find shooting people and looting them and extracting with their stuff fun

then its fun

the only thing you'd struggle figuring out is how to utilize the ammo

[gilded zenith]

i like squad

it looks fun

[robust mango]

because theres different types of ammo for guns just like IRL

SQUAD is a game i cant play

its too boring

i like tact shooters, but its boring

[brisk harness]

Will someone explain to me what is the matter with setting the optics in the BF V like a sniper? Some article or something, I don't get it.

[shut gust]

thats why i liked battlefield 1 so much because even if its arcady and unrealistic for its time period it still somewhat held historical accuracy

[robust mango]

what?

[solid hinge]

Do you mean zeroing?

[robust mango]

it held about a little historical accuracy as BFV lmao

[gilded zenith]

what do you mean

[shut gust]

?????

[gilded zenith]

zeroing or different zoom sights?

[brisk harness]

yes

[solid hinge]

Its a perk on some snipers

[shut gust]

have you even played the game

[robust mango]

Okay lets list out the historical inaccuracy with V
-Uniforms(fixed)
-Women in armies not in russia or finland(inaccurate)

[solid hinge]

When you choose a path when you level up

[brisk harness]

no no no, sry

[gilded zenith]

if its zeroed at 100m the bullet will land at your crosshair 100m away

[robust mango]

-Races that didnt exist in armies

-some weapons were prototypes

[solid hinge]

There were black soldiers in ww2

[brisk harness]

in the sniper rifle, when I click Y on the controller, the optics change, in the scope, I just don't understand how it affects the fight and when to switch it.

[gilded zenith]

well obviously

because it was a worldwide war

[gilded zenith]

does the y change something

[solid hinge]

The british commonwealth nations could be classified as english tho

[robust mango]

BF1 inaccuracy
-Non segregated armies
-Blacks in german army that never existed ( they did in the colonies but segregated and never existed)
-Optics that did not exist
-Guns that were either never actually made past blueprint or prototype phase
-false fire rates for certain weapons
-tank armor massively unrealistic
-uniform inconsistency with the germans even in 1914-1915 years
-no such thing as gas grenades so multiple equipment was falsified

[gilded zenith]

cant you just look at settings what it does

[brisk harness]

yes

[shut gust]

yeah thats what i meant by somewhat histroically accurate

[brisk harness]

optic

[gilded zenith]

what optic

in what gun

[shut gust]

because if it was 100 percent accurate the game wouldnt be fun

[brisk harness]

Lee-Enfield

[robust mango]

oh im not saying that it would be

if it was real ww1 it would be boring

[brisk harness]

is a ,,Change-Optic"

[shut gust]

so thats what i also meant by balance between fun and accuracy

[shut gust]

exactly

[robust mango]

the problem is it didnt really hold any accuracy, and thats a good thing

it basically just had the theme of ww1

and that was it

and thats how it SHOULD be done

[solid hinge]

I dont think they ever claimed it would be a war sim tho

[robust mango]

because its a video game

[robust mango]

they didnt

[gilded zenith]

Y is change weapon

[shut gust]

the game still included stuff like the codex entries which actually tell you the history behind teh equipment

which i liked

[robust mango]

the problem is people give BFV so much shit for being historically inaccurate

then they turn around and say BF1 is amazing

and one of the best BF games ever

[solid hinge]

Then why complain that it is not a war simulatorM

[robust mango]

i didnt

[solid hinge]

If thats never what they claimed it was

[robust mango]

i never complained