#battlefield-legacy-titles

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swift edge
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It's not difficult, just create servers with only 64vs64 rotation map sizes, and then dmake servers with 32vs32 rotation

robust mango
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there is absolutely no reason why they wouldnt have the capability

ripe arch
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This

robust mango
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this simply makes no sense for a literal start of the next gen battlefield game

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going back on a team size we've seen for over a decade

swift edge
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Because it has been said several times last year by Dice itself when they made a presentation of graphics new ôssibilities for next games lol

robust mango
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okay well i can tell you right now

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indie games with high textural design have higher player size

swift edge
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Lol maybe

robust mango
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so its absolutely unbelievable to think it would be this way

ripe arch
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If there's 64 vs 64 and 32 vs 32 servers, guess which lobby players will choose

swift edge
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But I don't see why Battlefield is forced to follow that way

robust mango
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if its next gen only, there wont be a 32v32 standard

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uhh because its not about being forced

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its about staying competitively relevant

swift edge
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Just stand with a 32vs32 standard isn't a problem at all as battlefield games function like it for years now

robust mango
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which since BF is making another BR game

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they must want to be competitive in the shooter market

swift edge
robust mango
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32v32 just seems less exciting when battlefield used to be the game that felt huge, why would they take away the staple of their design?

swift edge
robust mango
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even RS2 has like 128 player megaservers

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which happen to be the most popular in that game

ripe arch
robust mango
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content and gameplay but its also about what battlefield brings to the table that other games dont

swift edge
ripe arch
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The only way you're seeing this negatively is due to how we're conditioned to see BF maps via 32 vs 32 eyes

robust mango
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tell me what battlefield brings to the table, and then you will realize in the literal "title" of the game what the appeal is

swift edge
ripe arch
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I think in order for Metro to be remade for 64 vs 64, they have to extend subway spawn point to the park

swift edge
gilded zenith
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i think adding more cover would be fine

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reduces sniping

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and adds the requirement to push to the objective

ripe arch
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I think it'll be hilarious when it turns out to not be 64 vs 64 but instead it's like 40 vs 40 or something lol

robust mango
gilded zenith
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if ur getting baseraped is hard to get out of there

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unless you spam smoke

swift edge
robust mango
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If they end up making the maps even bigger and keeping 32v32

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It will feel like a wasteland

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At least conquest 100% will

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Rush/operations will be fine because sections

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Goodbye conquest community if that happens

swift edge
robust mango
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People don’t want a repeat of an 8 year old game though

ripe arch
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I personally don't know what they'll make BF6 worthwhile besides updated graphics if it wasn't for the higher lobby player limit

swift edge
gilded zenith
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if they add old maps ill defintly play it

robust mango
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If they wanted to save the last 4 years of development they could have saved a lot of money if they just released a 32v32 BF game remastered

gilded zenith
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like from bf3

robust mango
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For TDM that’s fine

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Because BF4 already reduces players for tdm

swift edge
robust mango
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TDM is not a standard

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Conquest and rush is the standard

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They’re the most popular modes

ripe arch
swift edge
robust mango
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Idk why you keep saying TDM

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that’s just a sub game mode

ripe arch
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I look at BF4/BF1/BFV these days, no server ran TDM lmao

robust mango
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That’s not proving your point

swift edge
robust mango
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You have to be trolling at this point

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The moment you repeated TDM

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As a standard

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That’s not a standard game mode

swift edge
robust mango
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Every single map that BF makes revolves around conquest and rush/operations

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that is not a STANDARD

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they reduce it REGARDLESS

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Because the game mode ISNT a standard game mode it gets REDUCED

ripe arch
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W-What if they add a street level on top of subway in Operation Metro for the 128 player remake? LUL

swift edge
gilded zenith
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i can find lots of tdm servers

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like on bf3 the most played server is noshahr tdm

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one of the most played

swift edge
ripe arch
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Back when I played BF3, the most popular lobby was Operation Metro Conquest

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And this was during a period the game was pretty much dead

swift edge
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Yes Noshar tdm is still playable often

gilded zenith
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i like it alot

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tbh

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just fun to grind kills and weapons

swift edge
grand rose
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???

gilded zenith
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metro is great for infantry gameplay

ripe arch
gilded zenith
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for me i feel like bf3 didnt get vehicles right that much

ripe arch
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And it just so happens Metro was welcomed

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Probably because there's no vehicles lol

swift edge
gilded zenith
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yeah

swift edge
queen canopy
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If people are playing battlefield to not play against vehicles they’re really in the wrong franchise

swift edge
gilded zenith
swift edge
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That's way even if Metro is cool, it's not the best Battlefield map ever as there are no vehicles

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Locker crazy players make me sick

ripe arch
swift edge
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Like if you only want to play infantry combat everyday, you can switch to COD

compact oxide
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COD infantry gameplay sucks

swift edge
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Yes it's bad af lmao

compact oxide
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Battlefield infantry gameplay is great, of course people want inf only maps

queen canopy
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That’s true

compact oxide
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My favorite map is still Achi Baba from BF1

tawny saddle
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No one likes arty trucks

compact oxide
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Inf only 👍

swift edge
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That's the reason cod players go to battlefield to play infantry only and play MP like it was singleplayer and they are alone in the game lol

gilded zenith
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something like devastation in bfv i feel like is really great

ripe arch
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Achi Baba, more like mortar fest

queen canopy
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But it really ticks me off when people rave about dying to vehicles....like, you made the decision to play battlefield, dont be surprised when an integral part of the game comes into play every once in a while

gilded zenith
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usually a bad player gets the tank so its mostly infantry only

tawny saddle
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River Somme, more like sniper’s paradise

compact oxide
swift edge
gilded zenith
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because its just the best

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no questions

compact oxide
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Battlefield is 65% infantry, 35% vehicles imo

ripe arch
compact oxide
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It's a big part but as the vast majority of the team is on foot it's not the biggest

lone karma
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Having 4 tanks with your squad and a recon with a soflam on silk road gotta be the dopest shit ever

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In a row, firing at shit from mountains

gilded zenith
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i dont understand staff shell tanks

naive relic
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The best thing that ever happened to me in bf1 was when i was scout in sinai desert. And some guy tried to run me over with the armored car, so i used my k bullets to disable his vehicle. And when he got out, i no scoped him.

gilded zenith
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just boring

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especially in silk road

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they never take objectives only the ones that are the closest

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and just end up losing

swift edge
gilded zenith
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and getting 0 kills

lone karma
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The war on silk road is basically who gets into the bomber plane hut

naive relic
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Are canister round suppose to act like a shotgun? I haven't used it in a while so i don't remember

swift edge
queen canopy
naive relic
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Oh ok tq

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Btw which vehicle your guys fav?

compact oxide
gilded zenith
compact oxide
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And maps like Panzerstorm are the worst I've ever played on battlefield

silver night
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Yo im new to battlefield 4

swift edge
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Maybe, but I always played Battlefield because it's not infantry only

silver night
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What should i do to get better

gilded zenith
swift edge
ripe arch
silver night
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What mode is the best?

gilded zenith
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conquest

silver night
naive relic
silver night
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And gow do i make loadouts?

ripe arch
gilded zenith
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hes talking about bf4 @naive relic

naive relic
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Oh ok sorry

swift edge
gilded zenith
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start with assault

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dont advertise here

silver night
gilded zenith
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yeah

silver night
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Oh nice

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Thanks

gilded zenith
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theres all your weapons and everything

silver night
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Thanks

gilded zenith
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its the same for all battlefields

silver night
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Ok

compact oxide
silver night
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So conquest is the best?

buoyant grail
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Sry guys

gilded zenith
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yeah its the most played

naive relic
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Bf1 on ps4 is literal hell

silver night
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Large or small?

gilded zenith
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conquest large has more servers

silver night
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Ok

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Whats baseraping?

lone karma
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Pushing enemy to their base

queen canopy
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When one team holds all the flags and basically just holds a line at the enemy spawn

lone karma
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And not letting them leave

silver night
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Oh

lone karma
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Not fun

jade lintel
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Basically when your team holds all the flags and just keeps killing everyone at their spawn so they cant get out

lone karma
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Unless your the one doing it

devout shard
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It’s boring

ripe arch
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Thoughts on levolution and desirability for BF6?

jade lintel
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Levloution for BF6 hell no

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Its not gonna happen

queen canopy
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Wouldn’t mind some large map events, if any of the rumors prove to be true, that may be what we get

gilded zenith
ripe arch
lone karma
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I've always enjoyed it when we were the one winning

jade lintel
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It was a one-and-done thing

gilded zenith
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i always just leave

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id rather be on the losing side then

devout shard
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I assist

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Model citizen

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😎

random blade
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I was wondering, what is like going from 60hz to 144?

gilded zenith
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massive

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i mean

random blade
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Does it help at all with aiming/tracking?

lone karma
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In one match we got baseraped for a while, then we pushed them back and ended up pushing them to their base and won the match

ripe arch
gilded zenith
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when you get 144hz you dont want to go back

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trust me

jade lintel
lone karma
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It was beautiful

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Everyone came together in harmony

gilded zenith
jade lintel
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wow

lone karma
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Tanks rolled out, choppers flying by supporting each other

random blade
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If you went back to 60 do you think you’d play as well?

gilded zenith
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not really

random blade
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Interesting

fallen vale
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as someone who plays csgo on 30fps, i think 60 is enough to compete.

random blade
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Cause I’m working on tracking and general aim, but I wonder if my monitor is holding me back

gilded zenith
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if you have the money and a good enough pc go for it

random blade
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I’ve been watching sabelo and he’s on like 360hz

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I will do once GPUs are purchasable

robust mango
devout shard
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check your specs and ensure they aren’t bottlenecking FPS performance if you upgrade your monitor

robust mango
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some people dont like to sit inside a tank to get an inflated K/D

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they actually like to have high stakes

fallen vale
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less vehicles

robust mango
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exactly

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and rush

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like even devs realize vehicles are overbearing

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conquest it only works because the players are so spread out around the map

silver night
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The choppers

gilded zenith
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i dont care about my kd even if im infantry or in a vehicle

random blade
fallen vale
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breakthrough is the best mode in battlefield 5, change my mind

devout shard
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Sounds good pepeCHEERS

robust mango
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put the same number of vehicles that exist in conquest in a rush match and it would be unbearable

wraith sage
robust mango
random blade
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Yeah 😭

queen canopy
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I know, I’m not saying everyone has to use vehicles. I’m just saying it’s an integral part of the series and people shouldn’t be so surprised to have to deal with one once in a while

gilded zenith
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killing vehicles is fun

robust mango
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people shouldnt be surprised tho that there are servers dedicated to not dealing with them

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theres a reason why turning vehicles off exists

queen canopy
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The balancing of those vehicles is obviously an issue sometimes, but there’s a reason conquest levels of vehicles aren’t present on those smaller modes

gilded zenith
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i got 4 repair tool kills in a shanghai match once

jade lintel
robust mango
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balancing vehicles in battlefield has always been a joke

gilded zenith
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i did enough dmg with the smaw and finished off with the tool

robust mango
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they never know how to get it right

fallen vale
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jihad jeep to obliterate tanks

robust mango
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the damage towards vehicles should be high because they can always repair them

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but they never make it that way because they dont want vehicle only players to bitch on forums

fallen vale
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whens the battlefield 6 trailer cmng

gilded zenith
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never

robust mango
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remember BF1 launch with the power of that solo driven tank that would always get like 60+ kills and the guy would never die

random blade
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Has anyone here managed to get a 3080?

lone karma
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Vehicles are really not that hard to take out, like do you really expect to be infantry and you alone take out a whole tank

robust mango
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with explosives?

lone karma
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That's just dumb and unrealistic as hell

robust mango
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yeah id assume with rockets designed to destroy tanks

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its not about realism

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its about balance

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BF has never been about realism lmao

queen canopy
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They’re supposed to be powerful, if that’s what you mean. If vehicles weren’t powerful, theyd be pointless to have in the game

lone karma
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It is balanced, a tank destroys shit so rightly so if you encounter one directly you should die

queen canopy
robust mango
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if you want to talk about realism, how come i cant kill someone with 1 shot to the chest with a .50 caliber sniper rifle yet in a standard mode?

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because Balance

gilded zenith
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battlefield was never realistic alright

lone karma
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Because that would be too over powered and everyone would be going around 1 shotting people making every other gun in the game almost useless

robust mango
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tanks on the other hand pretty much have the easiest time sitting back and racking up to the top of the board with 0- sub 5 deaths a game

queen canopy
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Doesn’t mean vehicles shouldn’t be powerful, but counterable

robust mango
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wow almost like vehicles

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they go around 1 shotting multiple people

jade lintel
lone karma
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In my experience vehicles are not easy to use

fallen vale
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the plungers

robust mango
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??????

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what

lone karma
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If you do not know what your doing you will die

fallen vale
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are quite effective to destroy vehicles

robust mango
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what battlefield game are you playing where vehicles arent easy to use

lone karma
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BF4

robust mango
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BF4 iirc the tanks are pretty easy to manage

lone karma
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You know the other team has tanks too right

fallen vale
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lmao its hilarious how a fucking plunger does more damage to tanks than rocket launchers

robust mango
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yeah

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and just like the other teams tanks

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theyre mostly looking out for infantry kills

lone karma
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So what if you encounter a good tank player and you have no clue how to defend yourself

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Your obviously going to die

robust mango
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a good tank player?

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that would require him to push closer up

lone karma
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Plus lets say a helicopter is backing up the tank

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Your

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dead

robust mango
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helicopters are the one thing that even infantry can actually manage to destroy

lone karma
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Vehicles take out vehicles I think that's the point in a war

robust mango
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except you're comparing a game to irl

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again

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for some reason

queen canopy
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Infantry can take out tanks no issue if they play their cards right

lone karma
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^

gilded zenith
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its satisfying to get that perfect shot on a helicopter

robust mango
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infantry can take out tanks if theyre spamming it from all different angles

lone karma
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I always try to snipe helicopters

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It's too good when you get one

queen canopy
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I’ve destroyed 2-3 tanks in one life in BFV on a number of occasions

gilded zenith
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if the tank doesnt have aps i can take one out easily

fallen vale
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does driving a plane into an enemy tank destroy it

robust mango
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thats because BFV didnt have over oppressive tanks

fallen vale
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kamikaze type shi

robust mango
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they in fact had to nerf anti tank weapons in BFV

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2 times

queen canopy
robust mango
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especially the bazooka was nerfed

lone karma
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There needs to be a reason to use tanks, if they are easily taken out what is the point of having them

robust mango
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the difference is

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in BFV

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you can solo take out a tank as an infantry

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if you know what you're doing

lone karma
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I don't know about BFV but in BF4 generally vehicle battles are pretty hard

robust mango
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all of the previous games, it required a ton of work

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especially BF1 which is the most laughable

lone karma
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Considering you get hit sometimes by multiple tanks, AA's LAV's, helicopters

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Infantry with RPGs

robust mango
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imagine the hardest tank to kill in any bf game

lone karma
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C4 dudes

robust mango
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and it takes place in ww1

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the tanks with the worst armor known in history of all tank combat

lone karma
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People tryna crash into you with c4 quads

robust mango
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depends how strong AA is

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AA couldnt kill horses in BF1

lone karma
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Not to mention if your dumb enough to drive a tank into a conquest point chances are you will die

robust mango
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even at point blank they couldnt kill them

lone karma
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It's really not easy being vehicles

robust mango
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again it all goes down to balance i dont see why people dont understand its all dependent on how fast it takes to kill a tank

wraith sage
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Since when did taking out vehicles in battlefield become hard? It's literally the easiest thing. Come back to me when you've played hell let loose and have bazooka or panzerschrek shots ricochet due to the angle of armor or just get absorbed into the outer layer completely.

jagged sky
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maybe some one can help me with unica 6 quest?

robust mango
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how much damage does the launcher do vs how much ammo does it have

robust mango
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BF tanks are a walk in the park compared to other games

lone karma
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I'm talking about BF4 I don't know about any other game after BF4

robust mango
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okay well that game is way in the past

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and even then the vehicles were easy

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BFV at least was a step in the right direction in infantry being able to combat tanks by themselves

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and most of the time its because they actually have sufficient ammo in their AT kit to kill a tank

lone karma
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I think overall though the balance between vehicles and infantry in BF4 is reasonable

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As a tank, if not countered with vehicles or certain equipment you can wreck infantry

queen canopy
jade lintel
lone karma
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However if the other team has support from certain types of equipment and vehicles they should be able to defend

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And they can

jade lintel
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(anti horse)

robust mango
robust mango
jade lintel
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No

robust mango
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??????????

queen canopy
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Then don’t talk about “all the previous bf games” and not want to bring up previous bf games

robust mango
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the tanks are still easy to use

jade lintel
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AA is meant for planes not frikkin horses

queen canopy
robust mango
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regardless

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they only get easier and easier

robust mango
silver night
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I keep getting killed by choppers or by campers on top of a roof

proud mortar
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Bammdle fiemld

wraith sage
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It doesn't matter if AA is used for planes. A flesh target getting hit by flak would absolutely destroy it lol

robust mango
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^

lone karma
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AA not taking out a horse sounds very stupid and like a badly designed mechanic

robust mango
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and guess what a horse counted as

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a vehicle

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and the solo tank in BF1

wraith sage
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And flak was even used for tanks by the Germans due to the 88 being so effective lol

robust mango
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was a moving death machine

jade lintel
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yeah

queen canopy
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And any bullet to the head would mean lights out. Guess we’re selective about when we care about balance

jade lintel
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I love how it was designed as an AA cannon but it was better for tanks

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Thats always gonna be hilarious

robust mango
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i like fast TTK

lone karma
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It should be a mode maybe, not a default thing

robust mango
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the faster the TTK the faster a tanks TTK could be too, which would be awesome

jade lintel
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Nope

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Nonononono

queen canopy
wraith sage
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Should be a mode day 1. I'm tired of them releasing half assed hardcore modes like halfway through the life cycle lol

jade lintel
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Fuck fast TTK

solid hinge
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so bf6, which time is it gnna be set in?

robust mango
jade lintel
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Wot

robust mango
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but headshots killing you instantly should bea given

wraith sage
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Ah yes fast ttk is horrible. Shooting a man 10 times is fun lol

robust mango
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if you make it so all the damage kills you instantly like HC

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it just becomes a camp fest

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but if you make headshots do a massive amount of damage it says okay

solid hinge
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im hearing its set in 2030 with robot dogs

robust mango
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most shots will always be to the body

lone karma
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I generally find hardcore more fun but it's probably because I snipe so I just get a ton of kills

robust mango
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^

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thats why you find it fun

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try playing medic in hardcore

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its a nightmare

jade lintel
robust mango
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play anything frontline and its a nightmare

robust mango
jade lintel
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Eh

lone karma
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Hardcore imo is just more realistic, no longer do you have to worry much about your location being marked and every tank in the area knowing your there

jade lintel
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Thats not my fav

robust mango
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literally most games make the headshot pretty much instantly kill you

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yeah its nice for snipers

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not for people who actually have to do objectives

lone karma
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If you shoot a gun the enemy shouldn't know where you are

robust mango
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you know how annoying hard core rush is?

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playing as someone who isnt sitting back

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and sniping

wraith sage
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Hardcore is fun because it can make any gun viable and encourages a slower pace. It's why Squad and tarkov etc are such big successes well plus other factors of course. Just hope the next title in BF has hardcore mode officially supported day 1 as a side mode for people that want it

robust mango
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i really hope it never turns into squad

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thats the day i stop playing BF

lone karma
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They might look into Squad and reasons for its success though

jade lintel
robust mango
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its not as successful as people think

jade lintel
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I hate when ur on the minimap when u fire

queen canopy
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Dude you’ve practically been begging for BF to be squad for the past 10 minutes lmao

robust mango
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its all time peak is 14K players, thats literally nothing compared to normal shooters

queen canopy
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One shot headshots, faster TTK...

lone karma
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In may 2019 Squad sold 1 million copies

jade lintel
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That makes everyone blindly choose suppressors over everything else

robust mango
jade lintel
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Its not fun

robust mango
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faster ttk is not just squad lmao

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theres a million games with a ttk where im not plugging 10 rounds into someone

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all of which are not squad

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and if you think thats all that squad is

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you've never played squad

wraith sage
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G is clueless lol

jade lintel
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If ur just describing what u want BF6 to be and it sounds exactly like squad then just play fecking squad

lone karma
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True tho

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Downside to squad is that its very slightly too realistic

robust mango
lone karma
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It's huge aswell you need to play with a good squad for it to be fun on a good well made server

robust mango
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i hate milsims with a passion so nobody got what i was saying at all

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i guess shooting someone with 20 rounds in a mag is the only way the game can be battlefield

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anything less is squad

lone karma
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If you jump into it like battlefield you'll go into a field and just get shot and thats it

robust mango
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even though in BFV you're dead in 2-3 from any semi auto rifle

lone karma
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You'll have no idea where anyone is

robust mango
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and 4-5 from any smg

wraith sage
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Just don't get shot

robust mango
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and AR's its like 2-3

lone karma
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Well you might, depends on the server

robust mango
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but nope we need it to be like 10-15 shots

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otherwise its squad

wind solstice
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תשחקו שדהקרב 4

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nv,

robust mango
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and squad isnt even popular

lone karma
jade lintel
robust mango
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15K all time record peak player count?

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its still a niche game because of its community

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the game would have more players if the milsim community didnt gatekeep

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but you dont have a mic? Kicked
Not following my orders? Kicked
You picked marksman? Dont go that we need someone to play medic
Medic not always near the squad? Kicked

lone karma
#

milsims are more for people willing to roleplay and play as an actual soldier

robust mango
#

^

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exactly

lone karma
#

Most people do not give a shit about roleplaying

robust mango
#

its an awful experience

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which is why battlefield is my favorite shooter series

jade lintel
#

mhm

lone karma
#

Not really, if you do want to do it and learn then it's pretty fun

jade lintel
#

I dont understand milsims

robust mango
#

i can play and a squad and not get kicked for just me having fun playing the game

wraith sage
#

Squad doesn't even have many milsim servers. You are more so thinking arma lol

robust mango
#

when you play squad, you need to follow orders or you dont get to play

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uhh even if theyre not roleplaying

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the Sl's kick you if you dont follow orders

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or stick with them

#

that happens absolutely in any server

wraith sage
#

Sounds like you are over generalizing

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That doesn't always happen

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Some SL's are dicks true

robust mango
#

it happens so commonly that it is what it is

#

if you dont speak on your mic

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they usually kick you

lone karma
#

I can see that happening

robust mango
#

or set the squad up as "mics only"

queen canopy
#

Because it’s a Milsim game, teamwork and following orders is part of the game

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It’s not a casual shooter like BF

lone karma
#

It is a milsim and if you've played GTARP a absolute ton of these admins are dicks

robust mango
#

Yeah exactly

queen canopy
#

They’re vastly different franchises

robust mango
#

thats why i like BF

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and not squad

#

but a fast ttk is not just "squad"

#

you can still have efficient killing times

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in a casual shooter

queen canopy
#

But that one BTK to the head thing you’re talking about a while ago is exactly what’s in squad

robust mango
#

its in a ton of games

#

it is literally in a ton of shooters that headshots kill you

queen canopy
#

Competitive or tactical shooters, which isn’t what BF is

wraith sage
#

G have you ever played squad? Dumbing it down to only having a fast TTK to it is seriously funny

lone karma
#

@queen canopy Do you prefer hardcore or normal BF?

proven charm
robust mango
#

insurgency isnt competitive

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its pretty arcade style with a fast ttk

#

it may be on a tactical side, but its also pretty arcady

#

i mean you could say bf has squad based game modes that make it tactical

queen canopy
robust mango
#

just like insurgency has like game mode that require capturing points like battlefield and the gunfights are pretty fast ttk but have an arcade set up

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in fact its like a 1-2 shot kill in insurgency

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1 for snipers

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actually

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the best comparison

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planet side 2 actually has a low ttk

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as dead as that game is

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its literally the closest thing to a battlefield like game

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even that trash heroes and generals game has a very low ttk

jade peak
#

stop the flood tho

mighty bronze
#

I just don’t want my exact damage to be my score

#

Like getting 26 16 21 points

#

When we can just get 100 for a kill and 25 for headshot and like 10 for a squad assist

stark sky
#

Bfv might go on ps plus

#

Def needs the boost on PlayStation

sullen tree
stark sky
#

Why

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Easy kills

sullen tree
#

No ea play games on ps plus please

stark sky
#

Gatekeeper

sullen tree
#

Instead of another aaa game

queen canopy
#

Bruh

stark sky
#

Either squadrons or bfv

#

I j wanna bomb some noobs who don’t got a fligurfaust (can’t spell)

proven charm
sullen tree
#

My guees are gran turismo sport and crash bandicoot n sane trilogy

#

For ps plus may 2021 games

sullen tree
#

There are many of them

stark sky
#

Uh no bunch of sweats imo

wraith sage
#

Or how about sony goes on a hiatus and you get no ps plus games for May

stark sky
#

I was stoked when I first got the game

sullen tree
barren mango
#

Anyone knows what happens to online save data if battlefield is deleted from your origin account?

robust mango
#

sony is slacking so hard this gen

wraith sage
#

Erased to atoms

robust mango
#

and the only reason theyre doing it too is because ps5 is still somehow the fastest selling console

barren mango
wraith sage
#

No clue

barren mango
#

😔

robust mango
#

i havent used my ps5 for literally anything since demon souls came out in november

sullen tree
#

Only reason of exclusive games that i buy ps generation

robust mango
#

i mean it doesnt really matter when we really havent seen an exclusive

sullen tree
#

Everybody knows xbox's hardware way better

barren mango
#

Cause EA support keep answering the wrong question in broken english

robust mango
#

i dont know why it would still be flying off the shelves

#

if theres no exclusives

sullen tree
#

Maybe for trophy hunters and people dont want to lose their friend base on ps

proven charm
robust mango
#

yeah but you wont just lose the friend base

proven charm
#

literally the one thing ps5 has over the xsx is exclusives

wraith sage
#

Xbox got some great games lined up. Most excited for stalker but they recently acquired bethesda as well

proven charm
#

nothing more and nothing less

robust mango
#

yeah except we are still waiting to see some exclusives that ps5 has

wraith sage
#

Microsoft has been much better about bringing all their games to pc as well which is great

barren mango
#

😔

#

Nobody knows

proven charm
#

xsx has gamepass which is honestly amazing

sullen tree
wraith sage
#

Who knows. Probably xbox and pc

proven charm
#

over 200 free games for 10 pounds (or 1 pound on offer)

robust mango
#

i mean the biggest concern for sony players right now is they still oddly think starfield is coming to ps5, and it most likely isnt

wraith sage
#

Xbox has all their games on the microsoft store and windows

barren mango
#

Does origin allow you to buy a game you already own?

wraith sage
#

Well steam I mean

sullen tree
robust mango
#

its like they convinced themselves that its coming

wraith sage
#

I hope xbox gatekeeps though to their own platform and pc. Sony can dig themselves a grave for all I care lol

robust mango
#

you know if sony made any effort to backwards compatibility and opened up a gamepass to ps4, ps3 and ps2 titles they'd have more subs than xbox

#

but for some reason they never make some of the most obvious business decisions ever

sullen tree
#

The only game i would go backwards is fifa world cup 2014

robust mango
#

theres a load of ps2 games id replay on a ps5

sullen tree
#

Why they didnt release on next gen (2013) tho

robust mango
#

all i can hope for is they dont release BF6 on last gen

#

that will raise a lot of concerns for me

solid hinge
#

wow just got 3 hackers in a match, being invisible and killing people with machete or sometihng lol

lone karma
robust mango
#

if bf6 wants to be a success at all

sullen tree
#

So with the backwards comp in xbox, the battlefield 3 is crossplay with x360 and xbox one, series?

robust mango
#

it needs to cut out last gen

#

immediately

sullen tree
wraith sage
#

If it's on last gen just hope it's a 3rd party studio and completely separate from the man development porting it

solid hinge
lone karma
#

It wouldn't be

robust mango
#

yeah if it was last gen it would still be them

#

but the battle size would be downgraded

#

graphics downgraded

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levelution downgraded

wraith sage
#

They should honestly just skip it. Such a downgraded experience isn't worth it lol

lone karma
#

There is still quite a bit of people on last gen though

jade lintel
#

Yeah

#

Dont want them to be left out

wraith sage
#

Sounds like a those people problem?

lone karma
#

It all depends on how many there is

queen canopy
#

Its not just their problem, its also EA/DICE's bottom line's problem

#

Especially if the shortage continues

wraith sage
#

Shortage is going to continue into 2022. Nothing EA/ Dice can do about that

queen canopy
#

And my point is, they're not gonna just give up on selling to the vast majority of people who still don't have the new consoles

lone karma
#

In year ending december 2020 PSN had 114 million active monthly users

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It'd be a bit dumb not to port

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Even for an odd chance of it being bad

wraith sage
#

Well we have no idea what they are planning. In a perfect world they'd skip it but yeah it will most likely end up on last gen. But if they plan crossplay and don't want the game to be held back in terms of hardware it should just be crossplay for old gen and then crossplay for new gen/ pc opt in.

#

Keep them completely separate

lone karma
#

I mean MW exists on PS4 and it's pretty good and people play competitively on it so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to port it properly

robust mango
#

if they actually give in

#

and downgrade the game for a console that will be almost 9 years old

#

theyre going to potentially kill off the good start they could have for a game they plant to maintain as this generations battlefield

lone karma
#

It doesn't matter how old the console is, it matters how many people still have it and use it

jade lintel
#

yeah

queen canopy
#

Once again, BF4 was split between gens, and its still doing just fine

wraith sage
#

Just depends on what the next BF is. If the 128 player rumors plus other stuff are true that's going to be way more performance impacting than modern warfare

robust mango
#

8 million ps5 consoles have been sold

lone karma
robust mango
#

theres like 20+ million GP users

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if they put it on gamepass

#

theyd have absolutely no problem having a playerbase

#

theres like no AAA games coming this year besides halo, and thats probably in december

wraith sage
lone karma
#

I don't see them making 128 player servers a default thing. 128, 64 and 32 servers will likely be available

robust mango
#

with crossplay

#

PS5,XBXS and PC?

jade lintel
#

I really want crossplay

robust mango
#

yeah it can keep it alive

stark sky
#

They should remove 32 then and keep it 128 and 64

robust mango
#

plus the holiday sales for consoles for next gen will be huge

queen canopy
jade lintel
#

Theres nothing worse than wanting to play with some of ur friends but u find out they're on different platforms

lone karma
#

It's not much so that they won't have a playerbase, just from a business and marketing perspective ignoring so so many active monthly users who would potentially buy the game is dumb and they love money.

robust mango
#

i cant see why they would sacrifice overall sales in the long run just to get sales from people on ps4 and xbox this fall so that they can abandon the entire title on that console and then complain on the forums about how the ps5 and xbxs version doesnt feel like next gen

wraith sage
wraith sage
robust mango
#

i sincerely hope they wont give in to people who have 8 year old consoles

lone karma
#

But even considering that it's not smart not to port to last gen, there could be development limits that force them to not be able to support last gen

robust mango
#

consumers are so fucking fickle its unreal

#

all i can hope is that cyberpunk scared every single AAA company

solid hinge
#

is it possible to lower landing gear in bfv?

wraith sage
#

Yeah I honestly doubt that 128 player servers and better evolution etc could work on last gen. Don't know why I'd need to explain that though

#

Last gen is severely dated now

lone karma
#

They very well could dumb down a ton of stuff to make last gen supported though I don't see that being such a hard task from their perspective but I don't know much about game development specifically just development in general

robust mango
#

last gen is so far behind

queen canopy
#

And the Xbox 360 was dated when BF4 came out

robust mango
#

and look how launch BF4 was

queen canopy
#

And look how just fine the game's doing now

wraith sage
#

Of course it was and bf4 was hindered on last gen as a result

jade lintel
#

Well was the xbox one hard to find when BF4 came out?

lone karma
#

Lesser player servers, lesser graphics, adjusted building crumbling physics, it's not really stuff that would be hard to adjust or require any more work

queen canopy
#

But it wasn't held back on the current gen

wraith sage
#

Did you not remember the launch of bf4? That game was a steaming pile of garbage until Dice la fixed itt lol

#

Launched in a terrible state

queen canopy
#

And its doing fine now

robust mango
#

uhhh i can find more full servers on bf1 and bfv than 4

wraith sage
#

After years of work

surreal surge
#

regardless of if they can do it or not its a waste of resources

wraith sage
#

You seem to forget that

surreal surge
#

better to have it go towards new stuff instead of old gen console optimization

robust mango
#

i mean people stick to bf4 off of the fact that modern combat fans and the whole "ahh just a better bf3"

#

but yet even the most generally criticized bf game has the most players

lone karma
#

Year ending April 2020 Xbox Live has 90 million active monthly users

tough quartz
robust mango
#

and we cant say "well its newer"

#

because hardline is dead

#

and thats newer than 4

barren mango
#

Guys, can you buy a game on origin that you already "own"? In this case BF 4

robust mango
#

all i can say is, if they plan on holding back this battlefield game for ps4 and xbox fans

#

we better get a battlefield in 2022 or 2023 thats not shit

#

because its going to be massively held back

barren mango
#

In 1 year? A battlefield game?

wind solstice
#

every time i try to connect to a server in BF4 it says you disconnected from the game session. is there anything i can do?

tough quartz
#

There are more old gen consoles than new gen consoles so they woyld be leaving out a majority

barren mango
robust mango
#

from the ambitions that they seem to have for this game, i just dont realistically see them letting it run on a base xbox one

lone karma
#

What's the issue with them porting a slightly worse version to last gen

wind solstice
barren mango
#

Extra work

lone karma
#

It doesn't ruin your experience

robust mango
surreal surge
robust mango
#

this is what i dont understand, literally the console will be entering 1 year into its lifespan

#

why would you WASTE future sales

#

just for beginning sales

barren mango
#

Honestly

robust mango
#

they want the game to be this generations battlefield game

lone karma
#

You don't know if it's wasted resources, it could be a good investment

barren mango
#

Check task manager

#

Or just

#

Launch it

robust mango
#

Think about it this way

barren mango
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

robust mango
#

the game releases right

#

and its held back

#

by old gen

#

"hope you guys enjoy the game we plan to keep for this entire gen"

lone karma
#

According to the leak though and the way they set this game up in their blog post it seems like it will not be coming to last gen

hexed veldt
#

Hey

granite wyvern
#

Needs to be next gen only (just hope Xbox can deal with the demand)

hexed veldt
#

Anyone

queen canopy
#

I don't think anyone here is saying its good for the game, I think we're saying its unlikely they wont

robust mango
#

meanwhile other shooters surpass it within 12 months

hexed veldt
#

Problem In BF4

#

Can't Go To The Server

tough quartz
robust mango
#

imagine a company like DICE with EA resourced being surpassed by a 10 man dev team

hexed veldt
#

It Says Lost Connection But Signal Was Fine

#

It Is Fine

robust mango
#

all because they made a game designed for next gen

#

and battlefield chose to stick to a console that will be thrown away the moment a consumer can get their hands on a console

hexed veldt
#

Got This Problems 2 Days Ago But It Fixed Randomly

#

Is BF4 Server Always Like This?

barren mango
#

I don't think it's BF 4 server fault

hexed veldt
#

Then What Happen

lone karma
robust mango
#

with the fact that next gen just flies off the shelves as it comes in, i can easily see them realizing new gen will sell more consoles than old gen for both systems and its more likely they will stick to new gen because of long term sales instead of just selling a lot in the first few months and then dying later on because the game doesnt feel next gen and its hindered

barren mango
#

Are you already in a server playing when it disconnects?

robust mango
lone karma
#

The whole selling point of console is that it's affordable

barren mango
#

Or you can't connect at all?

hexed veldt
robust mango
#

you had to spend the same amount pretty much for a ps4-ps4 pro

barren mango
hexed veldt
#

I Can Go To The Game

robust mango
#

500 dollars even a high school kid could make in 1 month

hexed veldt
#

Can See The Server

#

But Why I Try To Connect

robust mango
#

the new console is not that expensive

hexed veldt
#

It Says Lost Connect

barren mango
#

Close and open

robust mango
#

its very basic, in fact its more cost efficient than an old console

barren mango
#

Game

hexed veldt
#

But My Ping Is Actually Fine :v

barren mango
#

👏

robust mango
#

and if you sell your old console

#

you're saving up more money towards a new one

prime pine
#

Random disconnections.... Yeah i get them

hexed veldt
#

2 Days Ago I've Got Same Issues

barren mango
prime pine
#

Odd

barren mango
#

I am aware of the random disconnects

hexed veldt
#

Same People Even Has The Same Problem

barren mango
#

Most annoying stuff ever

robust mango
#

i would absolutely hate for a next gen battlefield to be ruined by consumers that simply didnt keep track of getting their hands on a new console or havent upgraded to PC in the past 8 years

queen canopy
#

Its not the fact that people don't want to buy the new consoles, its that they sell out so damn fast that no one can really get their hands on them effectively

#

They're being bought faster than they can be made

robust mango
#

they actually run a ps queue every single week

#

its mostly about the fact that people dont keep track of it

#

they just want to be able to open a site

#

and click add to cart

#

and checkout

#

to get my ps5 i had to wake up at 5 am and go on best buy just to order it, but it was up for 1 hr and 45 minutes

#

before completely selling out

#

and that was november 24th 2020

slim plover
#

shouldnt have to do that

robust mango
#

i mean if you want something

#

you just need to know how to get your hands on it

#

if you expecting a surplus during covid thats your fault

barren mango
#

People don't have to go out of their way

#

If they don't want to

robust mango
#

but the fact that the store was in stock for almost 2 hours and not 2 minutes?

#

and guess what

barren mango
#

To get something like a console

robust mango
#

they can get a "too bad"

#

"why are you guys leaving us out, we didnt want to actually go out of our way, so you should go out of you way to downgrade a product for us"

#

how does that work?

#

at leats make an effort

barren mango
#

It's not about you in the end

#

It's about money

#

And

robust mango
#

and guess what

barren mango
#

Humans don't work together very effectively

robust mango
#

they get that game as next gen only

barren mango
#

Especially "gamer" type

robust mango
#

and all they do is get long term sales

#

instead of short term

barren mango
robust mango
#

if the game is next gen only

#

the only people crying will be anyone not in next gen or pc

#

not the business

barren mango
#

Their problem

#

So what is your point?

robust mango
#

hell if they go on gamepass? they basically get paid by microsoft to be there

#

my point is, they shouldnt downgrade a game because of people who couldnt keep up

barren mango
#

They are trying to stay close to market demand

#

You don't make a product like a game cut off from big market if you want to profit

robust mango
#

i mean market demand rn is new console, the supply is low and the demand is extremely high, anyone else could obviously see its more beneficial in the long run to make a game for next gen, so that they get long term sales

#

Short term vs long term

#

do you want a product to sell for 1 year

#

or for 7

#

They make a game for last gen, it will never feel like the game was worth it for new gen

#

other games will surpass it

#

and it will be left behind

#

they make a game fit for something to be supported for years to come in next gen

frigid current
#

Majority of people wouldn’t be able to play if it was current gen only. And their sales would suffer.

robust mango
#

and they have years worth of potential customers because it will hold up against other games

#

not if they put it on gamepass tbh

#

BF1 is the height of battlefield

#

which was what 16 million sales?

#

it has the highest record number of sales

#

it was like 16-20

barren mango
#

Just an angry person spilling out their line of thought

#

sigh

robust mango
#

im not angry

#

id be angry if they destroyed the game they plan to use for this gen over last gen

frigid current
#

BF1 might have had most sales, but BF4 was overall more popular I’m pretty sure.

robust mango
#

i doubt that

#

if the current player base does not exist in bf4 how could it be more popular

queen canopy
#

That was also one of the biggest PR successes in recent history, zzzy

robust mango
#

hardline has less players than bf4 so you cant make the "its newer"

queen canopy
#

We all remember how big of a hype train BF1 rode

robust mango
#

yeah bf1 was a huge hype

#

and it sold well off the hype

queen canopy
#

But...at the same time, it now has serious playercount issues

#

In my experience, at least

robust mango
#

at the rate that sony is going with ps5 production

#

they've just about reached 9 million sales

#

bf1 has more players it seems than 4

#

in fact it does

#

theres less active servers on bf4 than 1

#

and even less in 1 than 5

#

hardline has the least

queen canopy
#

Is that just active official servers though?

robust mango
#

hardline is actually the worst populated bf game besides like the very very old ones

queen canopy
#

Or does that include custom servers?

barren mango
#

Wth is he trying to say at this point

robust mango
#

nah even customs bf1 has more open

#

in terms of "fullness"

queen canopy
#

No with bf4

robust mango
#

with bf4 customs are all really thats played a lot

#

you have officials up for conq

#

which are usually full

queen canopy
#

Thats still players though

robust mango
#

yeah but what i mean is

frigid current
#

Of course there’s less active servers, it’s 8 years old compared to 5.

queen canopy
#

ye

robust mango
#

bf1 has more players alone

robust mango
tough quartz
#

Are you saying new gen games have more players that ones with both old gen and new gen?

robust mango
#

no stop

#

hardline is newer

#

than bf4

frigid current
#

Hardline flopped, easy

robust mango
#

Okay so

#

we can now say

#

good games outplay bad ones

#

bf1 sold more

#

and has more players

#

thats not hard to understand

#

its the most popular battlefield to date sales alone

#

BFV may have more population because newer

jade lintel
robust mango
#

but newer does not ALWAYS mean more

jade lintel
#

Thats a flop?

queen canopy
#

Its the most sold BF to date

#

Wouldn't say popular

frigid current
#

Sales doesn’t mean success

robust mango
#

i mean its more popular than 4

solid hinge
queen canopy
robust mango
#

its also more popular than bf4 on steam as well

tawny saddle
queen canopy
#

But I get what you mean I think

#

Sales doesn't mean longetivity

robust mango
proven charm
#

bf1 and 4 are the most prestigious games of the franchise

robust mango
#

but id say bf1 is more well recieved

tawny saddle
#

yes

barren mango
queen canopy
#

BFV has wayyy more players, but BF1 is better received

jade lintel
solid hinge
#

bf5 is empty wdym

jade lintel
#

its not

frigid current
queen canopy
barren mango
queen canopy
#

Its far from empty

jade lintel
#

Its super well populated

barren mango
#

Someone hasn't seen BF V servers

finite gull
solid hinge
#

i sleep

robust mango
#

hell let me just say this

solid hinge
#

europe

jade lintel
#

wot

solid hinge
robust mango
#

even on STEAM, battlefield 4 has a 24 hour peak of 3.8K

lone karma
#

Everytime he plays on BFV servers he closes his eyes

finite gull
#

Europe has servers if I remember correctly

robust mango
#

bf1 has a 24 hr peak of 8K

lone karma
#

So to him it's empty

solid hinge
#

BF1 and BF5 are known to have broken server browsers ig

finite gull
#

How tf does JackFrags get all of his footage then

jade lintel
#

EU servers are super popular on all platforms

finite gull
#

Or Lossy

tawny saddle
#

Most BF1 conquest servers are either in U.S.A, Germany, or Ireland

solid hinge
#

BF1 will show me not the same results everytime i spam the refresh button

barren mango
finite gull
#

Or any BF YouTuber that lives in the EU

robust mango
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battlefield 5 has a ton of filled servers, people say its dead because theyre mad its populated

finite gull
solid hinge
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still waiting for a full game of Firestorm tho LUL

queen canopy
lone karma
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Has anyone here ever hosted servers for any of the games?

robust mango
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my friend did

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he hosted for bf1

solid hinge
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BF players are so cocky god damn

barren mango
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Time to try to buy BF 4 on an account I already own

tawny saddle
finite gull
proven charm
lone karma
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I'm thinking of setting up a few servers for BF6 when it drops

jade lintel
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Yeah

frigid current
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I hope they have BF4 styled rented servers.

jade lintel
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Theres only like 3000 fucking players on at the same time

robust mango
lone karma
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Does BFV have custom player-ran servers?

jade lintel
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Hurr durr grug say geam dead grug funni now humm

robust mango
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yes they do

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they have custom servers which came in an update

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like last year

queen canopy
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There are, but they're fairly few and far between tbh

finite gull
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Dude says BFV is dead and has no servers. We prove them otherwise.

Dude follows up by saying that BF1 and BFV have always had sucky server browsers, we prove him otherwise

Dude calls us cocky. And it’s the only correct statement

robust mango
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yeah the officials usually are flooded

frigid current
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Rented servers came 2 years after release lol

jade lintel
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Yeah

robust mango
finite gull
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Welcome to the internet

robust mango
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like cod players somehow maintain the ability to always stick together

solid hinge
jade lintel
robust mango
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BF players are a whole different breed

solid hinge
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if i refresh it will show one server, refresh again and it will disappear

finite gull
queen canopy
robust mango
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then its buggy, doesnt mean that its dead

solid hinge
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bruh

finite gull
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Every battlefield subreddit before V has something pinned about how to find servers

jade lintel
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Yeah

solid hinge
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i didn't said BF5 was dead

jade lintel
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I hate when people say a game is dead

solid hinge
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i said Firestorm was dead.

finite gull
jade lintel
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What the fuck.

jade lintel
queen canopy
solid hinge
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i said empty by talking about firestorm

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i didn't said "bf5 is dead"

queen canopy
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"bf5 is empty wdym"

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its right there

solid hinge
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i said "firestorm is dead" it's pretty different

finite gull
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bf5 is empty wdym

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Where in this sentence does it say firestorm

solid hinge
floral stag
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Hey guys anyone down for decoding for the peacekeeper

proven charm
solid hinge
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but still, i didn't said bf5 was dead

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you guys are just inventing stuff LUL

robust mango
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whats really surprising is somehow firestorm sometimes still has games going on

finite gull
queen canopy
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Bruh I'm literally linking your own goddamn comments LUL

jade lintel
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Ok, here's 4K, RAYTRACED FOOTAGE of you saying it

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tawny saddle
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The Peacekeeper looks like a beast

solid hinge
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still looking for the "bf5 is dead"

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can't find it

queen canopy
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😎 This mans blind tho

solid hinge
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it doesn't mean the same thing but aight

jade lintel
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i bet hes deleted it now

finite gull
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VAC BAN

solid hinge
jade lintel
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So can we agree that this man is blind?

finite gull
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dude literally states BFV is empty, implying that BF5 is dead. Then takes that as “I said firestorm was dead”

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Seems legit

jade lintel
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literaly no fucking argument

proven charm
solid hinge
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"this man"

queen canopy
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sTiLl LoOkInG fOr ThE bF5 iS dEaD

knotty monolith
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bf5 aint dead

solid hinge
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soo battlefield players often mock other people like that ?

jade lintel
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No

finite gull
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We don’t mock each other

wraith sage
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Bf5 should be dead though. Such a terrible game lol

queen canopy
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We only mock clowns

knotty monolith
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when it's dead it's probably the players playing older bf games

finite gull
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We mock you when you’re wrong and you act like you’re not

jade lintel
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You just dont have a convicing argument

knotty monolith
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bf1 or bf4

solid hinge
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wow.. such a friendly community