Ya that's what I'm saying
#battlefield-legacy-titles
ancient ocean
queen canopy
I agree, tbh.
queen canopy
Its pretty clear that EA wanted BF1 2.0, and rushed it out the door long before it was ready
zealous path
queen canopy
However, since launch, the game's state has improved significantly
ancient ocean
Like you can't tell me you don't get goosebumps watching bf1 trailer even in 2021
zealous path
but they coulndt wait much longer cause they spit out like game every 3 years
split scarab
they should have gone pacific from the start
and it would've been much better accepted
queen canopy
At launch I wouldn't exactly say this with full confidence, but now I can say that BFV is a good game.
queen canopy
they should have gone pacific from the start
Looking at a lot of the stuff, it seems fairly clear to me they were originally planning on doing US v Germany to start
queen canopy
Well...you can...
zealous path
steamcharts is so wack
ancient ocean
Ya make the same ww2 game everyone else has and go with dday, that would have been cool alright
zealous path
^^^
queen canopy
Eastern front is a big part of it, but you don't necessarily need to cover the eastern front.
split scarab
dday overused
ancient ocean
Yes
dull oak
Agreed
solid hinge
Battlefield works well in d-day situation though
zealous path
yup
queen canopy
Would BFV have been better off with Eastern Front? Maybe.
split scarab
Eastern front is a big part of it, but you don't necessarily *need* to cover the...
^^^
digital mauve
yeah too bad bfv didnt have eastern front and dday
dull oak
I mean pacific was well done
ancient ocean
I would have hated dice if they did dday
dull oak
But eastern front would gave brought that darkness of ww2
queen canopy
I don't think I would've hated it, but I also don't really think a D-Day map would've fit very well
split scarab
yeah too bad bfv didnt have eastern front and dday
no Im glad they didnt add dday
queen canopy
Or played very well, more rather
dull oak
D day they could just do paratroopers
ancient ocean
They gave us awesome beach landings without doing dday anyways
digital mauve
iwo jima is kind of dday anyway yep
queen canopy
Exactly
split scarab
Or played very well, more rather
it would have to be breakthrough
queen canopy
it would have to be breakthrough
Which would've been fun, but then the CQ players are SoL.
zealous path
i feell like if your gonna make a ww2 game at least add d-day
dull oak
Yes but there is a reason I don't like beach landing maps. If the enemy team is competent your just gonna be massctrd on the shore
queen canopy
Same problem with Iwo Jima actually, amazing on breakthrough, but awful on conquest
split scarab
yeah
dull oak
D day the beach landings are overused but I wouldn't mind paratroopers the night before
split scarab
dday I feel would play too much like iwo jima
ancient ocean
Dday map would have had tons of spots to hold up and tons of people would have raged over campers, even tho it's not really camping on a dday map
queen canopy
D day the beach landings are overused but I wouldn't mind paratroopers the night...
If only Grand Ops hadn't flopped 
dull oak
Agreed @queen canopy
split scarab
Dday map would have had tons of spots to hold up and tons of people would have r...
it would also be unbalanced because of the hills
german team would be op
zealous path
well that would make it somewhat realistic
and it could have its own seperate gamemode
called
ancient ocean
If only Grand Ops hadn't flopped <:haHAA:562440524741476381>
I mean some of them were pretty fun but others where really bad like hamada
dull oak
I have to say the music and overall immersion is a bit lack luster in Bfv as well. That's one thing I feel bf1 did better capturing the meat grinder of ww1
zealous path
D-Day
dull oak
Again for me lesser known fronts are
split scarab
bfv doesnt feel like ww2
solid hinge
I mean battlefield borrows from history and doesn't use it completely so I'd say they could have a modified d-day
dull oak
Italian front
ancient ocean
bfv doesnt feel like ww2
👍
queen canopy
BF1's immersion is easily its strongest point, but unfortunately its also just about its only strong point
split scarab
Italian front
u dont need to make a bf1 v2
zealous path
BF1's immersion is easily its strongest point, but unfortunately its also just a...
yup
split scarab
BF1's immersion is easily its strongest point, but unfortunately its also just a...
no, maps
maps are rad in bf1
zealous path
thats immersion
dull oak
It feels like ww1
queen canopy
Even some maps were weak in BF1 though. Suez Canal was just...oof to me.
split scarab
thats immersion
immerdion contains a lot of things if you follow this
split scarab
Even some maps were weak in BF1 though. Suez Canal was just...oof to me.
yeah
ancient ocean
Bf1 immersion is not the only good part about it and I'm tired of people saying that, if it was true it wouldn't still be as popular as it is
split scarab
im tired of sinai
dull oak
Agreed @ancient ocean
split scarab
I feel like people milk the fuck outta sinai
queen canopy
It feels like ww1
See, thats why I can really support BF1's atmosphere, because it somehow manages to feel like WW1 despite being a frankly awful depiction of the war as it was
zealous path
its only popular as it is is cause there is one other game that has been made from its release
split scarab
no, it became awfully popular in 2016
zealous path
and bf3 still has a player base that you can always find a server to play on
unless your AU
dull oak
Same with one 😒
solid hinge
1 is more recent though and caters to a more broad audience
solid hinge
Same
safe bolt
lol I dont regret it tho!
zealous path
I put more time than I should have on bf3
dont mind me gaining about 80 hours this month considering i couldnt play for a week
zealous path
lol I dont regret it tho!
yes anotehr bf3 fan
dull oak
At the end of the day people play what they like. No need to argue about who's game is better. Like modern play modern. Like historical play historical. That's what's great about bf.
zealous path
love that game
split scarab
I put more time than I should have in far cry 5 and rdr2
ancient ocean
I put more time than I should have in far cry 5 and rdr2 <:haHAA:562440524741476...
I played those a ton aswell
dull oak
Put more time in insurgency and hell let loose also postscriptum
safe bolt
lmao same! bf3 was my first bf game I got at launch, very good memories
zealous path
i put to much time into seige on ps4 considering i cant even get my 230 hours and level 107 back
dull oak
And arma star wars mod 🙂
split scarab
rdr2 is just a masterpiece, its like an awesome movie
far cry 5 is just replayable and fun as fuck
zealous path
lmao same! bf3 was my first bf game I got at launch, very good memories
i got it around when bf4 launched cause i had just gotten an xbox 360
safe bolt
Rdr2 story was very good
zealous path
preffered it over bf4 in every way
safe bolt
I see!
ancient ocean
Rdr2 is such a great game, also just makes me sad every time I think of the story, such a sad ending, and I don't mean that as in the game was bad for people who haven't played it
zealous path
i bought the online multiplayer wich i thought was ok
ancient ocean
Indeed
safe bolt
the fact they are going back to modern day and I hear possibly 128 player maps?? I'm all in for this one
110%
split scarab
128 aka clusterfuck mode
safe bolt
lmao!
zealous path
but i got bored after a about 80 hours of beating peaple to death
solid hinge
Well they should appropriately increase map size
split scarab
but i got bored after a about 80 hours of beating peaple to death
get da story
zealous path
the fact they are going back to modern day and I hear possibly 128 player maps??...
facts
solid hinge
It's gonna feel like planetside I bet lul
safe bolt
I legit would do sniper and spotters squad in bf4 and just enjoy the heads being blown off
dull oak
See y'all in the evening it's college time for me
safe bolt
👀 🤯
split scarab
i thought about it though
honestly it was worth 60 bucks
zealous path
60??
hoary condor
ancient ocean
So many people have spread rumors of 128 players that they pretty much have to do that now or so many people will be like "wtf where's the 128 player games like you promised us"
split scarab
uhmm we never promised anything
safe bolt
they will have 64 player battles im sure tho aswell
ancient ocean
128 player servers are going to be dead so quick
split scarab
whoops there goes 64 players in our 128 server
hoary condor
So many people have spread rumors of 128 players that they pretty much have to d...
can thank content creators
safe bolt
the idea that it would only be 128 player modes Is rediculous js
split scarab
I wouldnt like it
ancient ocean
Oh God it's gonna be horrible if they do 128 because they will also do 64 and if they design maps around 128 then it will be awful with 64
safe bolt
I have faith in dice!
ancient ocean
Or they will make maps sized for both then there will just be too many maps with less effort in them
safe bolt
hoary condor
128 is ok, just need that healthy balance of vehicles
safe bolt
yes
zealous path
Or they will make maps sized for both then there will just be too many maps with...
thats what they did in some of the dlcs for bf3
a few of the dlcs i think had like 5 or 6 objs
ancient ocean
Omg 128 players all in tanks would be a fucking nightmare on battlefield
zealous path
mabby more i cant remeber
split scarab
and then bf6 turns out to be:
muricans vs aliens ON MARS
safe bolt
they can scale larger maps down tho I'd they design them decently So that 64 player matches on the same. maps as 128 doesn't feel wierd
just dreaming
😋
split scarab
they can scale larger maps down tho I'd they design them decently So that 64 pla...
scale?
ancient ocean
America goes to war with every other fucking country
split scarab
so youd end up with huge ass houses
ancient ocean
they can scale larger maps down tho I'd they design them decently So that 64 pla...
Do you mean make a big map for 128 and then only use like half of it for 64?
safe bolt
yea
ancient ocean
That would
zealous path
thats how they always do it
ancient ocean
Suck
zealous path
yah for insitnce cod jut puts random ass crates in the middle of a map
split scarab
Dice wouldnt have the patience
ancient ocean
Because making a map for 128 would be more like a long line like hamada so that all 128 players wouldn't be in some circle so to shrink that it would just make it a bad map
split scarab
hamada is pretty crappy
safe bolt
ya they did the best thing they could possibly have done.... took a year off to work on a better game
frigid gate
hello ppls how we doing this morning
ancient ocean
hamada is pretty crappy
Ik but with 128 players it would probably be pretty fun
safe bolt
I'd enjoy it
ancient ocean
Same, it does a pretty good job at separating the players so it's not a clusterfuck, well most of the time
frigid gate
idc what map i'm playing, i just play no matter how crappy the maps or guns are
tho i like rotterdam and those urban maps
ancient ocean
So 128 would be amazing, especially with people that actually push around the center of the map, like having a decent size battle at the airstrip on hamada when it's not even the main battle would be fun
Imagine 128 on breakthrough
safe bolt
I hope the maps are HUGE
frigid gate
i wish they stayed with firestorm. It really had some potential.
zealous path
i just want them to make it so there can be more then two jets in the sky
frigid gate
It's better than warzone ngl
ancient ocean
Tho I also feel that 128 would feel a bit strange as a modern game for battlefield
safe bolt
I'm talking like arma type big
having to travel huge distances to get to certain objectives
split scarab
Tho I also feel that 128 would feel a bit strange as a modern game for battlefie...
yeah
solid hinge
It'd get boring if it was like arma
split scarab
having to travel huge distances to get to certain objectives
that wouldnt be fun at all
solid hinge
Battlefield 4 has long enough time to walk
zealous path
yah a little more compact battlefield isnt rly a mil sim
split scarab
idk arma is pretty fun when you have to think oit your moves
arma isnt bf
solid hinge
Especially in big maps
ancient ocean
i just want them to make it so there can be more then two jets in the sky
Well then they would have to make it so they are basically none effective to ground so that a Group of aces can't destroy an entire team
zealous path
well with bigger maps it would make snse
plus there are people that sit in AAAs all game
solid hinge
It'd make alot more sense to have 4 now
zealous path
and 2 never really works out
solid hinge
Especially if they are doubling player size
ancient ocean
Bigger map would probably be more open and have less cover like panzerstorm so then they would still destroy ground
safe bolt
make it more tactical
solid hinge
Most bf players don't have brains
safe bolt
exactly let's get rid of the weak
solid hinge
I can agree on that
zealous path
Bigger map would probably be more open and have less cover like panzerstorm so t...
agian the AAA take out jets so easily
frigid gate
having to travel huge distances to get to certain objectives
I mean I want the maps to be bigger than in BFV. In the Army they teach you to walk more instead of a vehicle so you can sneak up on any enemy's that might be at your objective. And battlefield should have that kind or realism where in BF5 you can see when a enemy is coming from like across the map.
ancient ocean
Most bf players don't have brains
Jarheads, all of them
ancient ocean
agian the AAA take out jets so easily
A good pilot can easily stay out of there croshairs
safe bolt
I mean I want the maps to be bigger than in BFV. In the Army they teach you to w...
ya exactly.. people having to take time to think about how to approach an objective instead of everyone jumping on atvs and zooming threw the maps
solid hinge
I think what they should do is have a large run up time like in firestorm then from there do what they will
zealous path
thats true for the most part besides the fact that the AAA have full 360 view
ancient ocean
Still
safe bolt
you should be scared to drive on an open rode to an objective!
zealous path
but you said good pilot and not everyone is a good pilot
safe bolt
Oh lord I'm a bad jet pilot
zealous path
example a
ancient ocean
Did you read my original response to you
zealous path
wich one?
frigid gate
ya exactly.. people having to take time to think about how to approach an object...
I'm not gonna lie in BFV I take like a vehicle to get to the objective and either get rocketed or shot. sometimes I try to sneak up on a objective and a fricking sniper gets me or when I get to the objective I get gunned down.
ancient ocean
I said if a group of aces got together, because you said you wanted more than 2 jets in the sky at a time
zealous path
Well then they would have to make it so they are basically none effective to gro...
.
ancient ocean
Well then they would have to make it so they are basically none effective to gro...
This one
Oh ya
safe bolt
in a modern age there will be AA and a good amount of it
ancient ocean
Sorry
zealous path
I said if a group of aces got together, because you said you wanted more than 2...
yah becasue first off there are other jets, AAA, locked rockets, VIPERS, and agian just because there are people good at a video game doesnt mean we shouldnt make it more fun
ancient ocean
If they do allow more aircraft at once them just make them less effective to ground, that's all I'm saying
zealous path
especially casue when im infantry i almost never die to planes
ancient ocean
Hard for people to get good with them sense they spawn so little so there being more will mean alot more people getting good with them
safe bolt
I'm have to play bf4 today it's been awhile
zealous path
not rly cause there is stil an enemy team to fight and im sure they would add another AAA
ancient ocean
Why tf are you saying aaa it's aa
frigid gate
well boys
zealous path
oops
frigid gate
BFV for me is coming sometime next week
safe bolt
I only played BF 1 and 5 on ps4 of I was to get one for pc what would yall recommend?
solid hinge
Get BF4
safe bolt
I got it hahaha
solid hinge
Oh
safe bolt
ya first bf I played on pc
solid hinge
Then ones a good choice then
frigid gate
i would have just bought it online
tried but couldn't find it on the ps store like wtf 😐
solid hinge
zealous path
damn 15 bucks
frigid gate
wait what
safe bolt
oh shit
obsidian fern
beasttttt
frigid gate
WHATTTT
frigid gate
I BOUGHT IT ON AMAZON FOR 19
obsidian fern
You could be me
zealous path
oh
zealous path
i got the ea play
frigid gate
DAMN IT THAT MAKES ME MAD
obsidian fern
I'm not even mad about paying so much, I've spent more than my money's worth on it
zealous path
35 on origin
i would buy bf games on origin
cause you have to make an origin account regardless
safe bolt
Ya I got an account but I cant pay 50 for bfv
I'd be re buying it
I can just suck it up and get a month or 2 of psn and play there
safe bolt
I'm extremely excited
zealous path
I have been wanting a modern game sence bf4
ive been waiting since bf4 sincei didnt like that game
solid hinge
Hey guys, I downloaded BC2 and Im looking for some MP servers but Im not sure where to go or what to do
finite gull
Check all gamemodes in your region
solid hinge
Its not showing any servers
south radish
im kinda neutral
I suppose its the best to keep your expectations neutral regardless if the earlier games was great or not so great. Personaly i am abit excited and hyped for any info ngl. But still having mixed feelings on what is to come. Hope is atleast high.
solid hinge
Check all gamemodes in your region
Would there be a reason why it doesnt show any servers for me?
finite gull
Then I got nothing
dull oak
Howdy
jade lintel
Random question but do you think an AT rifle in BF6 would make sense? The only one i can think of for that role would be the M82 Barrett.
exotic summit
Hello
jade lintel
Yo
exotic summit
Should I upgrade battlefield V to definitive edition
jade lintel
Idk, I don't have it
exotic summit
It’s only like 10 dollars
jade lintel
what do you get?
exotic summit
I think you unlock all guns and get a bunch of cosmetics
obsidian fern
Every weapon, gadget, and vehicle I think too
As well as all the elites
It's more than worth your money if it's 10$ still
proven charm
bf3 looks god damn amazing for its age
charred ridge
should i get bf5 or bf1
jade lintel
Nah. I think it would get kinda boring if you had all weapons and gadgets to start.
charred ridge
should i get bf5 or bf1
obsidian fern
Depends
prime pine
Armour has gotten so thick and the things needed to penetrative armour would destroy the bullet
dense bone
should i get bf5 or bf1
if you want to carry over mechanics that will likely be in bf6, get bfv
proven charm
PlayStation servers for bf1 are pretty dead
it's a 6 year old game
charred ridge
should i get bf4 if i have bf3 already
dense bone
not only that but i assume bfv is more active on any platform
jade lintel
At rifles no longer make sense
I know but for gameplay reasons it would be cool.
exotic summit
I use boys at rifle a lot
prime pine
Don't need another annoying thing
obsidian fern
@charred ridge What platform are you on
charred ridge
pc
obsidian fern
Ah, no clue then, I'd check how lively the servers are first
But I'd assume BF1 would be doing the best rn
jade lintel
Don't need another annoying thing
I think it wouldn't be that annoying if it were more for disabling parts, not destroying tanks altogether.
proven charm
bf1 has more servers open on pv
obsidian fern
BFV has a lively community on Xbox
proven charm
pc
prime pine
People don't even use them on tanks they use them to hide in some obscure part of the map and get cheap kills on people.
exotic summit
I do tho
jade lintel
People don't even use them on tanks they use them to hide in some obscure part o...
Fair point, just look at the boys at back in bf5
complete jackasses, those guys.
exotic summit
Because why not
charred ridge
what yall think of bf4
jade lintel
Mastapeece
prime pine
Eh
proven charm
fun game
charred ridge
should i buy that rather than bf1?
obsidian fern
eh
proven charm
no
jade lintel
So am I the only one that actually uses the Boys AT rifle
Probably
proven charm
bf4 is a tryhard breeding ground
obsidian fern
Panzerbusche squad
exotic summit
Heck
I don’t use mainly on tanks
But to get in some shots and lower their hp a little
hoary condor
i use tanks if i can sit at spawn and kill
proven charm
But to get in some shots and lower their hp a little
it can disable tank parts easily
the weakest of places would be the tracks or the engine
try to disable those
obsidian fern
In coordination with a tank, it's incredibly potent
exotic summit
I do randomly sometimes
hoary condor
AT Rifles aren't really worth the hassle, as soon as you hit the tank... that mofo knows where to aim next
safe bolt
AT rifle is good for mental warfare.. ppl take a little dmg and freakout alot
hoary condor
oh no, wouldn't expect to find you there
wonder what a missle flying at high speeds does to a bush with someone in it
exotic summit
And hide there until they decide to go away
obsidian fern
Or be a big brain and coordinate with other AT or armor
So they can't take time to target you
exotic summit
Well people in tanks aren’t exactly the smartest
obsidian fern
Bruh
exotic summit
Sometimes
hoary condor
obsidian fern
I agree entirely, 90% of tankers are smooth brained
hoary condor
yeah you would have to find the odd first timer in a tank not to take aim or the odd shot
sometimes i shoot if i miss, meh it's on AT rifle
obsidian fern
What makes pubs so much fun is being able to stomp on every tanker with ease
hoary condor
if the tank goes into dense areas with no inf... it's bad news for the tank
pak 40s scare tankers soooo much 
jade lintel
Tank in an open area=ded
obsidian fern
If you can't range the 40 on your first shot you shouldn't be driving a tank
jade lintel
Tanks on Golmud in BF4=pAin.
obsidian fern
(S)pain
proven charm
theres a 6pdr on pacific storm that can reck lvt's about to land
jade lintel
exactly
obsidian fern
I know exactly which 6pdr you're talking about
It's a fat F
I see people die to it every game
proven charm
yeah
jade lintel
theres a 6pdr on pacific storm that can reck lvt's about to land
LVTs look like shermans with water wings on.
obsidian fern
What?
proven charm
ka-mi is better than the lvt
obsidian fern
Arguable
obsidian fern
Ka-Mi has that tower in the back that makes it impossible to see your direct rear
proven charm
faster in water and land
the lvt is made out of paper and the ka-mi is made out of actual metal
proven charm
ive taken out dozens of shermans with my ka-mi
obsidian fern
That's.. incredibly depressing
proven charm
its easy af
sherman drivers usually think theyre slick because theyre driving a medium tank then they go kaboom
obsidian fern
Weenie pubs tankers
proven charm
arent they broken in bf5
proven charm
lovely
jade lintel
LVT's look kinda worse than normal tanks
obsidian fern
For way too long of a time
ornate shuttle
Hello, what is te best gun in assault in BFV?
obsidian fern
LVTs aren't supposed to be used for combat like any other tank is
fickle gale
based off the chassis of the buffalo
fickle gale
Hello, what is te best gun in assault in BFV?
I like the ribey rolles 1918
jade lintel
Hello, what is te best gun in assault in BFV?
STG 44 probably
obsidian fern
Hello, what is te best gun in assault in BFV?
Sturmgewehr 1-5
ornate shuttle
Oh ok, and in medic?
fickle gale
yeah the sturmgehwer is like the jack of all trades
obsidian fern
Probably Suomi or Type 2A
proven charm
Hello, what is te best gun in assault in BFV?
stg 44
obsidian fern
Suomi I'd say
fickle gale
Is the boys good?
ornate shuttle
I use the MP40 its good
obsidian fern
I personally run MAB 38
proven charm
Oh ok, and in medic?
type 2a or grease gun
fickle gale
I use it against tanks
dawn trout
Hey how much storage is BF5 on PS4?
I got 167gb of free storage and it doesn't want to download
ornate shuttle
Hey how much storage is BF5 on PS4?
I got 167gb of free storage and it doesn't w...
107 gb
jade lintel
It seems that everybody uses the revolver MK6 in BF5 as their secondary.
dawn trout
Daaamn
zenith dock
Any one wants a ps4 na bfv code
dawn trout
I thought it's like 43
obsidian fern
Mk IV is probably the best secondary
ornate shuttle
@jade lintel i use de Luger
zenith dock
I got 1
hoary condor
it's just over 100GB for sure
obsidian fern
It's the Model 27 but with a faster ROF
jade lintel
<@798570950572507207> i use de Luger
What's that?
obsidian fern
PO8
ornate shuttle
P08
jade lintel
Ok
halcyon dust
What's that?
PO8
obsidian fern
I use the Repetierpistole
halcyon dust
I use the model 27
jade lintel
I use the Repetierpistole
Repetierpistole looks cool
ornate shuttle
I use the Repetierpistole
I don't like the reloading of that gun
jade lintel
Swag
obsidian fern
I don't like the reloading of that gun
Yeah, I agree there
jade lintel
I don't like the reloading of that gun
Isn't it with stripper clips?
obsidian fern
I don't use secondaries unless I'm still in combat and need to draw them immediately
Yes
It uses strippers
fickle gale
I like the model 27 but it fires too slowly
jade lintel
I don't like stripper clips
ornate shuttle
The reloading is like to the reloading of M1 Garand
jade lintel
The reloading is like to the reloading of M1 Garand
Without the PING
dense bone
@ornate shuttle theres hardly a single "the best" for said class
theres a lot of niches that different guns fit
ornate shuttle
<@!558625564685107210> theres hardly a single "the best" for said class
I know
solid hinge
guys, is it possible to pin bfv somehow to the taskbar?
dense bone
id say overall the g1-5 is the best assault weapon though as long as youre are playing close to med range
obsidian fern
^
fickle gale
Whenever I play BFV I need to shut down everytab as its so laggy
dense bone
(and one of 3 weapons i consider op)
ornate shuttle
Y play with medic, and i like the MP40
dense bone
Whenever I play BFV I need to shut down everytab as its so laggy
sounds like you have a low core count cpu
jade lintel
I know
I like the Bf1/hardline pistol system cuz in BF4 pistols are all universal but it doesn't matter since anyone with the g18 uses it and same with the Mark 6 revolver in BF5
dense bone
Y play with medic, and i like the MP40
i think mp40 is rather counter intuitive to the strengths of the medic class and its intended range you will lose to a bunch of other things
thats a bit of min maxing in a casual game though
dense bone
yea but engaging in cqc is medics biggest strength
obsidian fern
Depends on your weapon
dense bone
medic itself is ideal for cqc
smoke to get into your range, infinite heals to stay topped, and universal revives
obsidian fern
It's also ideal for armor support, which is where the longer range, slower firing smgs stand on top
dense bone
if youre using smoke to get into your ideal range with something like an mp40 youre going to lose to a bunch of other guns that perform better
dense bone
medic CAN do longer range, but it handily loses to just about every other classes weapons for mp40s intended range
obsidian fern
I typically speak from a hc perspective where your gun doesn't matter as long as you can control it and hit targets
dense bone
its like recons p08c or trench weapons, their ideal use range means they get wrecked by anything else supposed to be used at that range
hc?
obsidian fern
hardcore
obsidian fern
Hardcore is where, as the name implies, things get hard
dense bone
i wouldnt say hard
its first see first win where rof prevails and snipers are god
that mode is mostly based on reaction time and decent aim
obsidian fern
I run hc servers where pistols carbines, bolt action carbines, and self loading rifles are all banned
fickle gale
my computer is slow
obsidian fern
So it's an even playing field and you need to actually have a brain to snipe
Instead of going "durhhhhhh I spam semi auto sniper"
Even with one taps a lot of people can't hit targets while sniping
dense bone
well that sounds better, but id still rather not play hardcore
prime pine
Hardcore just heightens up the need for quick thinking
fickle gale
does it do like more damage
obsidian fern
Sturm has better rof
prime pine
Stg 1-5 is a great all rounder, the 44 is just a bit more controllable.
obsidian fern
No recoil Ribey
obsidian fern
Ribey has lower rof and ttk, but has near zero recoil
dense bone
stg44 has less recoil than stg 1-5
prime pine
Keep on with the 1-5 as its a great gun
fickle gale
Oh
obsidian fern
1-5 in the end will serve you better
fickle gale
Ok
dense bone
obsidian fern
There's virtually zero difference
fickle gale
Yeah
prime pine
1-5 kicks and builds up quicker with its recoil
dense bone
^
obsidian fern
And with higher fov and ads fov on, recoil is practically nonexistent for most guns
prime pine
However with a ratio you can control it fine.
obsidian fern
Lower rof and ttk
1-5 will win 9/10 times in cqc and medium range with recoil specs
Not to mention it's the weapon of choice for the top players
On the assault class
obsidian fern
You shouldn't need to use an assault rifle past that range
fickle gale
Yeah
dense bone
the point in going out that far is that the difference is marginal even at that distance
so the "ttk advantage" is pretty useless, so might as well as use the easier weapon...
fickle gale
Yeah
obsidian fern
I'm saying there's no point in firing that far anyways in bfv
dense bone
cool? no one is having that topic...
obsidian fern
But I've always found the 1-5 smoother, and easier to handle
On top of the better rof
dense bone
only reason the faster rof would really be a point is if you have high ping
otherwise the end result is a similar ttk that is marginally different even at 50m+, so might as well as use the easier to control weapon imo
fickle gale
Yeah
obsidian fern
It'll come down to preference then, considering they're both incredibly easy to use
You play both and decide
They're op so if you get good with either you'll stomp
fickle gale
What about the M2 carbine
fickle gale
A lot of people say its bad
obsidian fern
But loses majority of it's effectiveness beyond cqc
fickle gale
Oh
dense bone
stg 1-5 is like 9/10 cqc, 8/10 medium range, while stg44 is like 8/10 cqc, and 9/10 at medium range
fickle gale
Whats the difference between the m2 and the 1907
dense bone
(arbitrary numbers, just an example of how minorly different these 2 are)
obsidian fern
M2 is 20/10 cqc 3/10 medium range
obsidian fern
Lower mag size but it will tear through anything
dense bone
1907 mag size is wack
obsidian fern
It's about adapting to the gun, any gun will feel weird at first
dense bone
imagine picking a cqc focus weapon and only having 21 rounds and not being able to self heal
obsidian fern
Plus adapting settings to make control easier is a great choice
M1907 is only the best because it will shred anything in a 1v1 gunfight
After that
RIP
fickle gale
oh
dense bone
yea but how often do you expect 1v1 when there are 32 enemies?
fickle gale
imagine picking a cqc focus weapon and only having 21 rounds and not being able ...
they have anti tank weapons
dense bone
and up close m1907 matches suomi
obsidian fern
You're at a huge disadvantage running it when you have 33% smaller mags than 3 of the 5 assault rifles
prime pine
The big thing about the m1907 compared to actual submachine guns is the range is that in comparison
Its what makes things like the bar potent
obsidian fern
We don't need to discuss LMGs here, they are the true kings of the field
lmao
We'll have a war discussing them
dense bone
they have anti tank weapons
right, and medic has tools to be cqc focused, i personally think its a bit weird to go cqc on assault when thats not their strong suite
on top of that if you have a cqc focus itch on assault go g1-5 and challenge just about any cqc focused weapon while also being well equipped at range
fickle gale
I feel like assault is the jack of all trades master of none
dense bone
pretty much
fickle gale
yeah
dense bone
well.. medium range i will say they dominate with SARs
and their "jack of all trade" title is a bit misleading, since they are a bit too good at everything than most would expect with that title
also on the topic of this balancing i guess i should note im on pc
aim assist alone would probably change balancing on console
fickle gale
yep
dawn trout
Hey does anyone know what the first 24gb of data allow you to do? (PS4 download)
If I had to guess I'd say it's only story mode, with online being available after the full 107gb
Couldn't find it on Google
hollow nest
Why are BF4 admins so salty when you kill them? Kicked me because I killed him twice in a row with my tank when he is in a scout heli
solid hinge
anyone know why nvidia dlss is greyed out? i'm on a 3070 at 1440p, already enabled dx12 and dxr then restarted the game a few times
halcyon dust
Is the ariska 99 good for sniping
brave coral
yeah it’s very solid for all purpose sniping
halcyon dust
thx I am rank 2 for sniping
rose lagoon
So whats the best of the 3
M1907 sf?
Best all purpose sniper is enfield or gewer
Gewer pretty nice
Use to hate it
Enfield prolly my fav tho
Love the versatility
only thing is scope is ass
Kar 98 gewer krag and enfield
All u need
Love gewers reload
Where do u buy skins with company coins
dense bone
i have no idea where to even begin with this...
halcyon dust
same
dense bone
best of what 3? are you asking and expecting a reply or asking and answering on your own?
lee is only good with iron sights iirc, put any other sight on it ruins its ROF
halcyon dust
The m1907 takes a whole mag to kill one person'
sour stratus
no lol
proven charm
then you're aiming for your enemies toenails
halcyon dust
I remember T bag making a vid how it was nerfed 1 year ago I think
dense bone
im gonna assume youre thinking of 5.2 with the fg42
dense bone
that was a huge thing for a moment
prime pine
5.2 fg42 was almost usless
13 hits to kill someone with an lmg is stupid no matter what
dense bone
idk, i used it at that point and still did good
i just didnt use it beyond 30m
under 30m the thing shredded
prime pine
It was an assault rifle for support, It didn't need to be toned back at all.
If they wanted to make the underdog weapons fine, fiddle with their ranges and values instead of nerfing the others just for some weird ass thing.
dense bone
i dont think it was a "toned back" scenario, but a "category change"
basically went from an AR to an smg
prime pine
Which it didn't need at all because it wasn't an smg
dense bone
fg42 in 5.2 was fine for its intended role
prime pine
It really did, it may of been still usable but it was so shit.
dense bone
dice literally said its intention and people ignored it and complained it sucked at range
prime pine
The type 100 did better overall than an lmg, and thats fucking stupid.
open jay
maybe for a large capacity weapons it’s fine, but the FG42 has a 20rd mag
dense bone
thats opposite of what i would expect as balanced
prime pine
Really what it had versus the stg 1-5 was lower horizontal recoil
open jay
Intentions aside, the gun was gonna suck with that nerf
dense bone
Really what it had versus the stg 1-5 was lower horizontal recoil
thats kind of huge though
open jay
thats kind of huge though
but does that require making it a 13 HIT gun at range?
queen canopy
I think the complaint is that the gun didn't make sense to be as weak as it was given its IRL role
dense bone
theres other viable options
prime pine
It is but on that, 5-9 to 6-13. They were balanced on rate of fires but they couldn't properly fix it.
queen canopy
A big old rifle round taking 13 bullets to kill at midrange just...felt off
The gun's got a thump to it, and it was very unsatisfying
open jay
It’s a big gun
dense bone
I think the complaint is that the gun didn't make sense to be as weak as it was ...
this is really the only reasonable argument imo, and thats even kind of a lame argument considering its a game
prime pine
A gun like that shouldn't take 13 hits to kill someone, when it was reduced to 9 it was still very bad.
4-6/7 rewards the user more for controlling their gun reliably at a range.
dense bone
converting caliber to arbitrary hitpoints and number dmg values is a flawed system in the first place
open jay
well I would expect a full rifle round to do more damage then a tiny little pistol round
dense bone
but thats not logical at the same time
queen canopy
I'm not so sure about caliber and all that, otherwise a .45 round would put your lights out. Its just that the feel of the gun was much heavier than it hit back in 5.2, which led to it just not working well
open jay
https://images.app.goo.gl/Tjec5cjgqZYD8nBy6
This is the bullet the FG42 used
prime pine
The bullet spongeyness also started quickly
queen canopy
Which felt unnatural
dense bone
idk, i think im being pretty objective here since i dont have knowledge of these weapons at all
so im purely basing their performance based on what they do in game
marsh arrow
Just bought battlefield V and it keeps starting with the intro
dense bone
the fact is fg42 for its intended purpose in 5.2 was a decent gun that fell off at range hard
the only way to argue against that is to bring in outside sources to make a claim for why it was bad/wrong/off/etc
prime pine
May as well just use the 44 which was the better all rounder, or an actual smg from medic like the type 100 considering how powerful those two were during the time.
Fg42 had nothing on either due to lmg handling either
fickle gale
ok
dense bone
basically, if this wasnt a game based on real shit there would be no valid way to complain about the funtion of fg42 in 5.2
prime pine
Which is clunkier than the assault rifle sprint out time (while seems to be a small different is still quite big)
670 Territory means all rounder not smg
open jay
in WW2, the FG42 was supposed to be an LMG that weighed no more than a Kar98, was select fire and could mount a scope for sniping
dense bone
thats cool
open jay
it was supposed to be capable at range
prime pine
If a gun outside of a submachine gun has a high rof then the easy fix to balance them is give them wild recoil values and a smaller mag.
dense bone
again, the only complaints to be had are referring to outside game sources
queen canopy
I mean once again thats bringing in irl stuff, as opposed to an intended, in-game role
Which is valid, but it still felt off.
dense bone
to me its weird people want to bring irl examples to prove a point but to only a certain degree
prime pine
I keep on bringing it up, it was an assault rifle before and being changed to an smg without any changes to make it more cqb friendly made it fall flat to other guns, as again, the suomi or type 100.
dense bone
lets go all out and have an lmg that uses the caliber rounds as a sniper be 2btk to kill
even though rof is way faster
like it doesnt make sense
prime pine
Sure it had almost no recoil but its damage range well pfft what the fuck does that matter anymore.
dense bone
I keep on bringing it up, it was an assault rifle before and being changed to an...
was still a decent gun despite other guns being better, which will always be the case
cant use relative to disregard
obsidian fern
What monke weapons are being discussed now
dense bone
fg42 in 5.2 patch
uneven hollow
The bananathrower
prime pine
It was an assault rifle that was pinpoint then it was changed to an smg with inferior sprint out and mag, yeah as an assault rifle it had inferior mag size still but it had control going for it.
prime pine
It was a good gun then
dense bone
i dont think discussing what it was before or after has any bearing on what they tried to do besides asking why change it in the first place
prime pine
Now that its been almost reverted its an incredibly good gun for support.
dense bone
its not like you were forced to keep using it and there wasnt a replacement within the LMG role either
prime pine
Its now an all rounder for the support, up there with the Bar for an aggressive mg for support.
obsidian fern
It feels like it would be perfect in either Assault or Support
prime pine
I hope we get battle rifles
obsidian fern
We better
queen canopy
Yeah it fits that heavy AR role right now, which I think is where it should've stayed
prime pine
Yus
queen canopy
13 BTK just didn't feel right with it
dense bone
i personally loved picking a gun everyone said was useless, and then shit on the entire server because im not dumb and know how to play a weapon to its strengths...
prime pine
If I wanted an smg I'd pick medic which sponges bullets
obsidian fern
I enjoy just choosing guns no one runs
maiden steppe
i personally loved picking a gun everyone said was useless, and then shit on the...
This was me in BF1 with the Lewis Gun
Who cares about high time-to-kill when aim punch doesn't give a shit about time-to-kill
queen canopy
I'm not saying it was useless. It was good in its role, but it didn't feel like it belonged there
maiden steppe
shoot first, make their screen shake, and win
dense bone
If I wanted an smg I'd pick medic which sponges bullets
yes, if you are trying to be effective, if youre trying to send a message, stomping a server with 5.2 fg42 was a good way to do that
obsidian fern
If you can beam someone's head you will always win
Pick a weaker gun and shove it in their faces
prime pine
If I wanted to make a difference right round there I'd pick medic
If I wanted to anchor id abuse slow auto bar
Cause that shit was stupid
dense bone
i just kind of hate that the community can complain so much that dice gets rid of something unique in favor of being slightly different
prime pine
While yeah on one part everyone gravitates to one gun or yada yada, Doing that kind of patch made shit even worse.
dense bone
now we have 50+ primary weapons that most of them can said to be the same to 5 other weapons
prime pine
If you wanted to be successfull now or at launch just pick the stg 1-5, fg42, bren ( i can list a lot but I won't for the sake of space)
As they are easy to use
5.2 /.2 stg 44 why the fuck not, the 1-5 unnecessarily... weak
Chunky was going through my head
It made more people go for the 44 instead of trying anything else as they would fuck you over.
As I said, if you wanted to make underdogs good, You can buff their stats.
dense bone
i mean, 5.2 was huge changes at once, of course it wasnt balanced
prime pine
Mp40 and sten could have used a 568 fire rate with maybe better range to compensate without reducing range of the other guns
Ooooor another gun could have had less recoil, those are better changes as it makes the higher up players want to experiment more.
If you wanted to make snipers more lethal, as they did, increase their bullet velocity.
tranquil torrent
Dead game
dense bone
understandable, it did come out 2+ years ago and its a "blockbuster" title, that normally loses players once the next "blockbuster" comes
obsidian fern
No dude he said it's dead so obviously it's dead
I mean
He clearly knows more than we do
queen canopy
Oh right sorry, its not mainstream craze so its obviously dead
queen canopy
Nah, still going strong
prime pine
Don't give the rand attention
proven charm
his argument is foolproof
solid hinge
bf5 is dead
proven charm
sour stratus
hey look we got another comedian
solid hinge
no bf5 is dead bad game
sour stratus
solid hinge
<:leo:760110335687524423> and what you want us to do about it
cum
uneven hollow
Play fallout 76
solid hinge
:troll:
sour stratus
solid hinge
you're either 9 years old or 10
perhaps a fetus
queen canopy
ah yes, the classic "bfv bad"
sour stratus
ah yes, the classic "bfv bad"
without providing any reason why 
queen canopy
Nope, you don't need to. Just say "bfv bad" and watch the liberal tears fall
solid hinge
this guy gets it
queen canopy
upvotes on the left folks
prime pine
Ooook
solid hinge
I got banned from the Xbox discord for saying shit 😔
U are my friends now
omggggg bad word
ban
Fuck
Poop
omggg offensive
ban
Shit and cum
uneven hollow
sour stratus
uneven hollow
Tbh this is some really shitty shitpost hours
queen canopy
in #battlefield-legacy-titles no less
uneven hollow
solid hinge
if you say a cuss word, then you are like, if you say a cuss word and you go to jail, and if you go to jail and if you say a cuss word
solid hinge
you are gonna eat broccoli and other vegetables for your whole life
sour stratus
solid hinge
fine, alright
static kestrel
Hey how do you report a hacker?
proven charm
the EMP is so good in bf5
proven charm
Hey how do you report a hacker?
what platform you on?
static kestrel
PC
proven charm
on pc theres a report system built into origin
find the hackers profile and report them therw
there
static kestrel
Ah ok thanks for the help
proven charm
no problemo
hot juniper
Salut personne pour jouer sur PC a BFV
solid hinge
@hot juniper Moi stuvv
rose lagoon
Can we cuss in here?
dense bone
yea
rose lagoon
K
rose lagoon
Is nyphon a Pokemon
dense bone
NOOOOOOOO
rose lagoon
Whats the fastest bullet velocity sniper
uneven hollow
I forgot fucking paste again
-granty
dense bone
is that for his pc build in tech?
uneven hollow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rose lagoon
K my aim is so perfect i need a gun that hits wherever i put them crosshairs
Reccomend krag or kar
dense bone
i like krag more, but i really dont think theres much of a difference
i think i liked the krag sight more
brave coral
i prefer kar but yeah as you said, differences are pretty minimal
kar just looks and sounds nicer imo
rose lagoon
Seems when u dont harden scope Kat is more swaying
The krag easy to snipe without holdin breath more
But idk krag seems to miss some perfect shots sometimes
tight rain
Some guns just dont suit people
dapper steeple
i used ross just one time i liked it
but i think in BF1 it was better
for me the best sniper is the Kar, gewer 95 its better but i cant use it
brave coral
m95 is probably the nicest bolt action imo
versatile, consistent, high damage, and a very nice 3x scope
plus top tier reloads
dapper steeple
in brazil we laugh with kkk, not lmao, lol, etc
rose lagoon
Sucks at moving targets sucks at range has bad bullet drop
Only perk is fast cycle
But enfield better at that
dapper steeple
i like the reload animation
rose lagoon
Id say enfield and gewer r the most "versatile" of all
dapper steeple
yeah
rose lagoon
But the krag n kar good for long range
dapper steeple
i like the mas 44
3 shot kill pretty good
but like, a lot of semi auto rifles are good
solid hinge
Can anybody help me with my bf 5?
dapper steeple
AGm42 is real shit hate that gun
dapper steeple
Can anybody help me with my bf 5?
what you need
solid hinge
I can hear people ingame, but its not thoru my headset, but my screen. How do i change it?
dapper steeple
I can hear people ingame, but its not thoru my headset, but my screen. How do i ...
try settings and audio
solid hinge
I know, but i dont know what to do after that..
dapper steeple
never saw people with that problem
dapper steeple
I know, but i dont know what to do after that..
are you on pc?
solid hinge
Yup
tight rain
Thats cool
proven charm
me with the ross
if only the ross had a straight pull bolt in bf5
dapper steeple
it has a lot of recoil
proven charm
itd make it viable
zealous path
Yup
Check your audio devices in game settings.... look for something that says output audio and make sure that is set for whatever your headphones are plugged into
zealous path
Bfv is better then bf1 but bf3 is the superior game imo
limpid valve
charred ridge
Wow
zealous path
No no no
zealous path
No
charred ridge
what
zealous path
Bf1 doesn’t have that many players
zealous path
I mean you can’t play the game is there arnt players
zealous path
Idk
charred ridge
and still can find servers
zealous path
Yah I said that too
queen canopy
Yeah I'd recommend BFV
zealous path
I mean you can get bf1 if you want you can still find games but I would say bfv
queen canopy
Though if you can find BF1 for cheap it can't hurt to snag it too yeah