what clothes would you use for an Italian
#battlefield-legacy-titles
pine flame
sweet moss
I see a lot of people using M1941 Johnson rifle as a Japanese assault
sick hamlet
And of the Bersaglieri and Arditi stuff is good.
queen canopy
what clothes would you use for an Italian
Cavalleria helmet, Mirage Torso, Wolf legs is fairly close
sick hamlet
One of the poncho things is also Italian IIRC, and there’s Italian paratrooper outfits as well
Sadly they don’t get a version of their big feathered helmet without a gas mask
queen canopy
Or I suppose you could run Wustenkorps legs as well if you want to go north africa
sweet moss
Actual Italian weapons in BfV are: Mab 38, M28 tromboncino, which Lmg? S2/200? What else ? I know there's a couple more......
pine flame
the funny medic gun
uneven hollow
Tbh Germans needs more characters 
queen canopy
Theres no italian LMG unfortunately
queen canopy
Yeh I mistyped
queen canopy
Tbh Germans needs more characters <:gigaMeowStatic:590508852634451978>
Germans do need more characters, kind of annoying only having 5
queen canopy
Especially since they have the most maps in the game
sick hamlet
Which is sad because there was a good candidate for a unique Italian MMG. 20 rounds but give it 360 RPM and the Chauchat damage model.
S2-200 was exported to a lot of Axis countries
sweet moss
Didn’t some Italians also used the s2200
Thought I read that somewhere
uneven hollow
Indeed I was reading that somewhere as well
sick hamlet
That we don’t get the best SMG of the war, the Hungarian Danuvia, is a tragedy.
sweet moss
Ever use the Blyskawica Smg on COD wwii? Thing melts hard
sick hamlet
Then again, it could either go to Assault as an assault rifle or Medic as an SMG so...
sick hamlet
We need SMGs that are properly differentiated.
queen canopy
I liked running polish resistance on Devestation for a while lol
proven charm
we need more unknown weapons
sick hamlet
There’s what, 3 different SMG archetypes that most of them fall in to?
uneven hollow
Owen gun 
sick hamlet
The MP40 and STEN are barely distinguishable in their stats.
sweet moss
Owen gun <:leo:760110335687524423>
You get "owened" by it
queen canopy
The MP40 and STEN are barely distinguishable in their stats.
I mean, their rates of fire irl are pretty identical...
sweet moss
The MP40 and STEN are barely distinguishable in their stats.
There was also the Sterling? I think a lot like the Sten
sick hamlet
True, but the spec trees are the same when there’s quite a lot they could have done.
sick hamlet
STEN could have had an integral suppressor spec for example
queen canopy
That frankly would've ruined the point of having it on the Grease Gun
sick hamlet
MP40 could have had its unique dual magazine system implemented
queen canopy
still woulda been cool
sweet moss
Seriously though, they couldve given Recon a couple Smgs with the surpressed spec option
For cqb
sweet moss
Idk have only been playing~1 yr
sick hamlet
The MP34 is another case of wasted potential because they decided to start it off with abysmally low rate of fire and magazine size and you can only correct one of the issues.
pine flame
is that the one with the bayonet
sick hamlet
Should have given the MP34 32-round magazines 600-RPM rate of fire, but up the recoil and adjust the damage model to turn it into something akin to an assault rifle with a long range damage model.
sweet moss
Some people swear by that Mp34, idk I can't make it work for me. Bayonet might be interesting. Makes it like the Mp18 on bf1
vast meteor
can someone ban @cwikks179 is spamming the world
queen canopy
MP34 is definitely good
pine flame
i like using the bayoney on it
queen canopy
can someone ban @cwikks179 is spamming the world
what?
pine flame
pairs with my Zero sense of self preservation
sweet moss
MP34 is definitely good
Isn't it technically the most accurate in class?
queen canopy
I wouldn't know, but it might be
sick hamlet
The 9x25mm it fires was one of the most powerful cartridges in use by an SMG at the time and falls into a weird niche between typical pistol caliber cartridges and intermediate cartridges used by assault rifles.
They could have ran with that niche but didn’t
uneven hollow
Mp34 is lovely
sweet moss
When I get killed by it, it seems to be by unique user/medic playstyle. They're like sneaky midrangers or something
sick hamlet
You’re kinda forced into using the rapid fire spec for it to really work.
sweet moss
It's starts at 514, goes up to?
sick hamlet
Thing is, the damage model doesn’t really make up the slow rate of fire. If it was 4-6 then sure.
sweet moss
No one has convinced me yet that the ZK-383 isn't the best all around smg. With both spec trees it has, you can literally use it for any situation
pine flame
the what
sick hamlet
The Czech SMG
sick hamlet
The Czech’s produced a really good assault rifle/LMG candidate during WW2 that sadly wasn’t included either. 50-round belt firing the same round as the STG.
Could have been a unique LMG for support
sweet moss
30 or 40 round mag, 540 or 720(!) Rof, movent-ads or hipfire
AND high velocity bullets either way!
And bipod
Integral bipod
proven charm
i almost killed someone with the liberator
sweet moss
Right side spec tree great for range, left side still lets it compete with suomis and thompsons
Type 100s
sick hamlet
Another missed opportunity was turning the M1 Garand into something between the other SARs and Recon’s SLRs. There was plenty of space for a 257 RPM SAR like the M1916 balancing wise to do that.
sweet moss
Yeah the Selb 1916 is my least used assault SAR. The big make almost makes no difference with the slow rof for assault imo
I wanna like it, but.....
It's a laser and it range rivals the Karabin
sick hamlet
M1916 requires taking ROF and recoil buffer to be effective in my experience
sweet moss
You think it would be amazing
sick hamlet
Honestly, the accuracy buffs for SARs seem entirely pointless owing to their lack of horizontal recoil.
Like, can anybody tell me what barrel bedding actually does on an SAR?
sweet moss
Yeah and like in the Garands case, "increased accuracy while stationary"? I'm usually strafe/sprint out with the garand
For how I play assault
Why even have that option?
sick hamlet
I can see the utility of increased accuracy while stationary of horizontal recoil was there or if it’s paired with a bipod
But with their only having vertical recoil, you seem to get larger benefit for your accuracy from recoil buffer than you do barrel bedding.
Barre bedding as far as I can tell only narrows the range of recoil “coordinates” for lack of a better term for the weapon. But because it’s a straight up and down axis for those values on SARs buffer seems the inherently better choice for them.
As far as percentage benefit goes that is
sweet moss
But with their only having vertical recoil, you seem to get larger benefit for y...
Yeah for sure. And I actually took off "heavy load" spec because of the added recoil/lack of control, plus +60 Rof. It's actually a better gun without it imo
Spamming the M1 garand is just beastly
brave coral
garand doesn’t benefit a whole lot from the heavy load spec
sweet moss
garand doesn’t benefit a whole lot from the heavy load spec
Yeah it actually makes the gun worse/harder to shoot!
sick hamlet
I’d rather the M1 have been a 2-3 BTK SAR with 2BTK out to like 20m and a 257 RPM. Heavy Load could increase that range to 30m.
brave coral
if you’re dedicating it to an SLR role with like a 3x scope then it’s cool but if you’re just using it as an infantry rifle you may as well leave it as is and pick one of the muzzle attachments
sick hamlet
It’d actually have been unique and we’d have a slow firing punchy SAR for the Assault class
brave coral
eh could have been cool but combined with assault’s general role possibly a bit much
sick hamlet
Eh, it’d just fall into a in-between of the Auto SLR for Recon and the rest of the SARs
sweet moss
You aim the first shot about belt high.....
sick hamlet
The fastest firing SLR is 225 and 2BTK out to 50m IIRC
sweet moss
It walks it's way up to a headshot
sick hamlet
2BTK out to 30m at 225 RPM and 8-round mag doesn’t sound broken for Assault
brave coral
very nice sounding/feeling gun is the gewehr m95
sweet moss
The fastest firing SLR is 225 and 2BTK out to 50m IIRC
Yup. The wonderful Remington Model 8, my top weapon. 1175 kills
brave coral
those bolt animations hit different
sick hamlet
Side Note: Model 8 with quick reload is so satisfying.
Just watching that stripper clip slide in
brave coral
yeah only way to go with model 8 is iron sights
sweet moss
Side Note: Model 8 with quick reload is so satisfying.
The reload is an eternity sometimes for sure
sick hamlet
Model 8 is more wasted potential in my opinion though. There’s already a variant for it they could have implemented via specs from@BF1
sweet moss
It has one of the funniest mastery assignments too. 20 kills whilst crouching in one round
Or 60crouch kills total
brave coral
since it’s a gun you typically end up reloading after every kill or two maximum, it helps to not have to reload up to 5 rounds individually
sick hamlet
Stripper clip reload with quick reload is stupid fast though
Same for the Lee-Enfield
brave coral
i don’t think the extended mag variant would be particularly great for the game unless it significantly changed its role/stats
sick hamlet
Eh, the Model 8 in-game fires .35 but the extended mag variant in BF1 fired .25 and had a different damage model
Just give it 15-rounds and a 270 or 300RPM rate of fire with a 3-4 damage model.
brave coral
yeah i guess you could make it function basically like the selbstlader 1916
tbh that would be pretty neat
sick hamlet
It’d basically be two radically different guns in one depending on which specs you chose
brave coral
just not a straight mag upgrade, that would take it up to i think the highest bodyshot kill potential per mag in the game outside of support
lyric zephyr
Anyone play HArdline anymore?
sick hamlet
Also wishing that the bolt actions had more than just two spec trees shared between them.
sweet moss
Too me its the "go-to" American Pathfinder weapon to try n be faction based or whatever
nd it's a hunting rifle lol
sick hamlet
Lee-Enfield would have been really sweet to have Enhanced Hipfire on with Quick Reload and the RoF upgrade
sweet moss
If you learn how to manage reloads and plan you're shots it's a beast imo
proven charm
is it a 2hk or a 3hk beyond 50m?
sweet moss
In it's role when used for aggressive recon it really works well
sick hamlet
3hk beyond 50m
brave coral
model 8 and RSC are 3BTK past 50
proven charm
thats decent
brave coral
unless you hit a headshot which makes it 2
sick hamlet
RSC could have had a rifle grenade spec or an extended magazine spec as well.
proven charm
so the rsc is a model 8 with 1 extra round
brave coral
extended mag for the RSC wouldn’t really work considering the way it was built
proven charm
half moon magazine reloads are cool
sick hamlet
There were RSCs adapted to use Chauchat mags.
sweet moss
RSC is a model 8 with 1 more round and magazine reloads
I use RSC for British Pathfinder load out, and it's almost the same weapon really
brave coral
there is an interesting experiment the french made which was some sort of bolt carbine, i think some variant of the lebel, that used chauchat style mags
sweet moss
But the Model 8 handling is slightly different imo
proven charm
gotta love the French and their weird weapons
brave coral
i wasn’t aware of an RSC with a chauchat mag but i don’t really think it would fit unless again you made changes to its damage profile
sick hamlet
RSC with 20-round mags but stuck at 180 RPM would be lulzy.
A lot of damage potential in a mag but not something you wanna get into CQC with really.
brave coral
i would rather see a .25 conversion for the model 8 that increased mag size to 15 or 25 but increased its BTK to +1
brave coral
one of my favourite extended mag options is the turner smle
sick hamlet
Lee-Enfield with Trench Mag. Why is that not an option?
proven charm
rsc with a 100 round drum mag when
brave coral
if you get into it it makes for some interesting strategies which allow you to fire almost continuously by reloading only clips then cancelling
sick hamlet
Eh, you joke but the French did produce a Berthier semi-auto post WW1 with a 20-round magazine. Didn’t see much use really.
proven charm
i love french firearms or anything heavily experimental
brave coral
you can reload 5-10 rounds quick while you duck behind cover then continue firing
proven charm
huot automatic is a marvel of engineering
brave coral
isn’t the huot canadian?
sick hamlet
So many cool weapons from the period left ignored
sick hamlet
Could have had the AS-44 and Federov or the AVS-36 in BFV
sullen dew
Without any sweet spot they are outclassed most of the time by semi auto ars or the self loading ones
sick hamlet
BF1 was the best balanced bolt actions have ever been in the franchise if you look at their performance statistics
proven charm
if we got the russians we could also get the fedorov avtomat since the red army used them during the winter war as a subsitute to their aging semi autos
sick hamlet
Plus it made them distinct
brave coral
the only change i would make to them is enabling rechambering a round while in ADS for some condition
sullen dew
People with ars and lmgs can keep supressing you
brave coral
either all the time, or if you’re using anything under 6x, or with a specialisation
maiden salmon
good evening boys
sick hamlet
Eh, that would help somewhat but fundamentally the sweet spot is what made them have actual distinctions.
sweet moss
Battlefield 5 snipers are very underpowered
In a comp setting, you would almost certainly have to be able to run n gun with irons effectively, which I've seen almost nobody do. Swings and swivels would be a necessity you'd have to be super sweaty
brave coral
suppression in bfv doesn’t actually have a tangible effect
sick hamlet
And it brought their performance up to par with every other weapon
brave coral
it just slightly darkens + blurs your screen
sullen dew
Bolt actions just do not work in comps most of the time
I have tried running iron sights
And the 3x
sweet moss
I have to run 3x with model and rsc
sullen dew
Its still a big disadvantage
brave coral
battlefield isn’t balanced for competitive rules though
proven charm
@sullen dew use the kar98k
sullen dew
Bro talking about bolt actions
sick hamlet
There’s a small handful of bolt actions in BF1 I think shouldn’t have had sweet spots. Namely the Lee-Enfield and Ross.
proven charm
easily the best bolty
sweet moss
Ads gets you killed on slrs
sick hamlet
Their thing should have been rate of fire
sullen dew
Bolt actions are a lot of fun and take a lot of skill in normal multiplayer as well. But in comp there is no point in putting yourself through the disadvantage
Unless you can get constant headshots
You miss 1 shot or get a body shot the guy just goes for cover
sick hamlet
And even if you can you’re still better served with one of the 2HK semis
Greater ease of use
sweet moss
Jungle carbine is def the best bolt action on bfv
sullen dew
Thats quite debatable @sweet moss
sweet moss
The not having to ads/rechambrt makes it crazy easy to use
proven charm
straight pull bolt 1 tap headshot yes please
sullen dew
Its quite good at mid
proven charm
the jungle carb is the best
sick hamlet
Honestly I kinda wish the carbines had been given to Recon just to keep all the bolt actions together
sweet moss
To run n gun with bolt action you'd have to be a headshot machine with Gewehr/Arisaka
sick hamlet
And then there’s the Lee-Enfield which only has a niche if you’re running it for max rate of fire iron sights
brave coral
yeah if i was going to run and gun as recon i would go for either model 8/rsc or a pistol carbine
sullen dew
Lee enfield has horrible bullet velocity
sweet moss
Even the trigger job Lee Enfield suffers from body shot damage
proven charm
i once was pinned down inside a bunker on Pacific Storm breakthrough with just a kar98k and i got 26ish kills from it
sullen dew
Crap pin scope
Bro like i said they have a lot of use in multiplayer
But in comp and skrims
Completely outclassed
sick hamlet
Which is why they should have maintained the sweet spot mechanics for some of the bolt actions and diversified the spec trees a lot more for them.
sweet moss
yeah if i was going to run and gun as recon i would go for either model 8/rsc or...
P08 carbine all day as ze germans
sick hamlet
The Swiss bolt action is the only one with a unique spec tree really.
brave coral
generally speaking you barely have to adjust for drop
sullen dew
In bf4 zeroing was useful. In bf5 it just messes you up
So without zeroing sometimes you have to judge
sweet moss
The Swiss bolt action is the only one with a unique spec tree really.
You have o take trigger job to even be usable
sullen dew
Even with practice
brave coral
like a medium/high velocity rifle at 150-200m is basically you just aim forehead/top of the head
sullen dew
@brave coral not talking about k98 atm
sick hamlet
Yup. So many of the spec trees in this feel like they only have one choice you can make because otherwise you cripple yourself
sullen dew
Other bolt actions exist
brave coral
that goes for basically everything though
proven charm
lee Enfield is a weird bolt action
sullen dew
250+ does
brave coral
its still not going to be more than like a few pixels above the top of their head at any sort of reasonable long range
sullen dew
Lee Enfield is weird as shit
sick hamlet
K98 could have had the BF1 Lee-Enfield’s sweet spot model or close to it with the option of rifle grenades.
Boom, instant diversification with a bolt action favoring aggressive play
boreal goblet
what if bf6 is bf 2142 2
sick hamlet
Lee-Enfield could have had enhanced hipfire to go with quick reload and the RoF buff
brave coral
at that point why are you using an enfield though. if you’re spawning with the intent of doing long range sniping, grab a kar98 or a krag
sullen dew
There arent always ez shots @brave coral . You have to account for movement as well
Plus if you are under supression
Its very hard to aim
Due to the flich
Flinch*
brave coral
enfield is basically built for frontline sniping with reasonable capability up to like 100-150m
sick hamlet
Aren’t there SMGs with higher muzzle velocities than the Enfield?
Or ones matching it?
brave coral
i don’t think so
sullen dew
Enfield is dogshit over 200 m
sick hamlet
Pretty sure the MP34 comes close
sullen dew
Most of the time
brave coral
yes because it’s not designed to be a long range sniper lol
sullen dew
A lee enfield can be outclassed by any other sniper
sick hamlet
Lee-Enfield is by most of its stats designed for CQC iron sights play
But it sucks at that
brave coral
i would very rarely find myself even pretending i’ll be useful at 300m
sick hamlet
If you attach a scope to it you’re better off using any other bolt action
sullen dew
Exactly every bolt action beats lee Enfield
brave coral
sure, i can score a few kills but i’d be much more useful at like 50m
sweet moss
It's the point where Lee Enfield is better than just a Jungle Carbine though. Who owns those ranges because you're not going to counter snipe Krags and K98 with a Lee enfield
sweet moss
Why even use the enfield
sacred root
i use it for immersion purposes
sick hamlet
They could have given the Enfield an extended magazine as well, with a 20-round trench mag.
brave coral
fast RoF and decent enough velocity that it’s not really distinguishable in any sort of useful ranges
sullen dew
Imagine having a sniper with a 6x meant for short range-mid range
😂
Fast rof and more ammo
sick hamlet
Best part? The 6x scope is the scope that was actually intended to be used on the Enfield
brave coral
like up to 75-100m you’re not really going to tell the difference between 600m/s and 700 or 750
sullen dew
Its dogshit
sick hamlet
If it could cycle the bolt scoped in it would have a bit of a niche over other bolt actions with rapid follow-up shots.
sullen dew
You have to account for so much drop
And movement
Especially against ad ad spammers
sick hamlet
Lee-Enfield is also the only bolt action where you might actually consider using Zeroing
brave coral
then... as i’ve said several times already... use something else that’s actually built for long range?
sick hamlet
Just because of how much drop it has at range
sullen dew
@sick hamlet i was considering that
brave coral
what are you considering ‘long range’ here as well may i ask
because people have different opinions of it
sullen dew
U are using a sniper
You sre supposed to cover mid-long range
Otherwise i might as well pick an smg or an ar
sweet moss
"long range" on bfV is way shorter than other games
sullen dew
Way shorter*
sick hamlet
There’s also the travesty of what happened to the G.95 between BF1 and BFV
That thing was stupid satisfying to use. Or used to be
sullen dew
220+ m qualifies at long range
Bf4 you could sniper at beyond 1000 and 2000 m
Snipe*
sick hamlet
Another downside of the Enfield: with the enhanced RoF it readies to fire faster than the animation
brave coral
and the enfield is basically built for like 25-75m
gray saffron
G95 is awesome in bfv though. best sounding boltie in the game
brave coral
i don’t play comp
sick hamlet
Yup. But the way the spec trees are built and way bolt action mechanics work doesn’t really conform to the Lee’s niche
brave coral
and once again battlefield isn’t balanced with comp in mind
sullen dew
I was talking about comp when i said snipers are underpowered
Sniping is no doubt fub
Fun*
sick hamlet
They’re still underpowered even in pubs.
brave coral
@rough verge why do you want to be banned
sick hamlet
Hence why the SLRs are infinitely more preferable
sullen dew
I said they are fun
gray saffron
inb4 he just gets muted >:D
sweet moss
SLrs are banned in many comp settings....
gray saffron
SLRs are banned on good hardcore servers too :3
brave coral
uhh
solid hinge
Out of all the maps in BFV, I have to say that Aerodrome is the most blatant example of bad map design
:/
brave coral
i guess that’s enough reason?
sick hamlet
I don’t mind SLRs so much. They pack a punch but they and SARs tend to kill at about the same rate over the course of a game
sullen dew
The other snipers face a disadvantage
uneven hollow
Don’t ban him make him suffer
sullen dew
Lee enfield headshots are still the most satisfying
uneven hollow
sick hamlet
Why pick Kar98 over Krag?
solid hinge
All of aerodrome sucks except for point C
sick hamlet
Krag is legit the best bolt action.
sullen dew
True @sick hamlet
Kar has a nice feel to it tho
And more damage
On body shot
Long range sniping with Kar is also very consisten
solid hinge
Good lord he’s been banned lol
sullen dew
Consistent*
sick hamlet
One more round than the Kar, reload not impacted by scope choice, same muzzle velocity as Kar, and because of how irrelevant the damage models are for bolt actions if you don’t get a headshot, damage difference largely doesn’t matter
sullen dew
True @sick hamlet
I personally prefer the Krag as well
The 6th shot really comes in handy
sick hamlet
Krag also doesn’t have sights worth calling sights if you go without a scope
Things a tube with a tiny prong for a sight
sullen dew
But they really need to buff the sniping in the next battlefield
It really sucks atm though no doubt you can have fun with it
gray saffron
they dont need buffs, wtf. people already complain hard about sniping in any bf xD
sick hamlet
If they do a combination of BF1 and BFV’s balancing for them that would be ideal.
gray saffron
you litterally only need to two tap to kill. not even in the head
buffing that, would mean one shot anywhere
sullen dew
Its not that ez
solid hinge
Sweetspot mechanics need to stay in Bf1, because sweet spots are nightmares
gray saffron
and that's hardcore. and people hate snipers in there even more
sullen dew
You can get shot easily
sick hamlet
Make the anti-material rifles require bipod, give the bolt-actions sweet spots to distinguish them so you’re not just picking whichever has the highest muzzle velocity, and them give the semi-autos weaker damage models and more inaccuracy.
solid hinge
Make the anti-material rifles require bipod, give the bolt-actions sweet spots t...
No, no sweetspots
Please
No
sick hamlet
Yes sweet spots. Because they actually balanced the class.
sullen dew
Bro i understand you guys hate sniping
Probably rush with an smg
But please there are so many sniper mains like myself who dont necessarily hardscope all the time
solid hinge
Sweetspots are stupid and dumb and stupid, the mechanic itself doesn’t make sense
sick hamlet
Half the reason bolt-actions in BFV are so terrible is that everybody has easy access to on demand healing
solid hinge
But only once
gray saffron
bolties are fun in bfv
brave coral
they’re good enough
sullen dew
For who?
sick hamlet
Doesn’t matter for bolt actions. That med pack quite often turns it into a 3BTK
sick hamlet
That’s the entire reason bolt actions had their base damage buffed in BFV
sullen dew
You will get the word annoying
brave coral
they reward skill rather than being able to hit a chest shot at a specific range for a one tap
sullen dew
Not op
sullen dew
You guys definately dont understand sniping imao😂
gray saffron
play bf on hardcore. there is no regen there
sick hamlet
Even the folks at Symthic came to the conclusion that the one shot headshot isn’t sufficient to balance them
sullen dew
They dont reward skill enough
sick hamlet
Every other weapon in the game is balanced around body shots
brave coral
“player doesn’t agree with me so isn’t a good player” is a very flawed argument fyi
sick hamlet
You cannot meaningfully balance an entire class of weapon around headshots alone
sullen dew
Exactly
brave coral
as i said. give them a straight pull and they’re better than fine but i don’t really have an issue with their current state
solid hinge
play bf on hardcore. there is no regen there
Does BFV have hardcore? If yes then is it easy to find a server
solid hinge
SLR’s have been king in most if not all bf games
sullen dew
@sick hamlet not just the slrs but the dmrs as well
At mid-long range
And if you want to excel long range
gray saffron
Does BFV have hardcore? If yes then is it easy to find a server
yeah. and on pc and eu there are plenty of hc servers
sullen dew
You must sweat hard and calculate each shot
sick hamlet
The greater ease of use more then compensates for the lack of one hit headshots by making them more consistent
And that’s what sweet spots did: it made bolt actions consistent like every other weapon class
solid hinge
yeah. and on pc and eu there are plenty of hc servers
I’m on Xbox
sullen dew
Exactly
solid hinge
May be hard for me
gray saffron
I’m on Xbox
check the community server browser, they usually have it in their name or check the game-info
brave coral
depends on region but there should still be at least a couple hardcore servers that pop up
sullen dew
Like take cod for e.g. the snipers are considered really dangerous due to sweet spot like they should
gray saffron
tags don't work if you edit them in later btw
sullen dew
I have seen people just ignore a sniper
brave coral
i’m ps4/eu and there’s usually a few hardcore rotations plus the typical 200%tickets/damage underground servers
sullen dew
By moving randomly
sick hamlet
The great downside to sweet spots in BF1 was that bolt actions still have slow rates of fire so even for the close range ones you get one, maybe two chances to land that hit if you’re lucky, before you’re dead.
sullen dew
A reliable upper torso/ chest shot needs to exist
It makes sense realistically as well
sick hamlet
The closest ranged sweet spot there actually had among the lowest RoF in the game
The Vetterli had a sweet spot starting at 20m but a godawful rate of fire and 4-round mag
sullen dew
So what the community thinks is that us sniper mains need to sweat every game and get like 16-17 kills and they mow down the lobbies with smgs, dmrs,mmgs and ars and get like 40+kills every game
brave coral
i would be open to like a sweetspot-esque damage curve that doesn’t reach 100, but differentiates the rifles a little more basically increasing your chance of finishing a damaged enemy in one hit
sick hamlet
There’d be no point to that damage curve
sullen dew
In bfv they are
sick hamlet
Functionally that curve would still be 2BTK
coral smelt
In BF1 they aren't
brave coral
in a good match (map dependent of course) i can relatively easily get upwards of 40 kills
sullen dew
We have to calculate for bullet drop, lead shots, take careful shots, etc
coral smelt
Bc half the time it's on irons
sick hamlet
You do not balance weapons on the assumption of partial health
coral smelt
Same for 1
brave coral
as a recon with a bolt action
sullen dew
@brave coral i can assure you not at long range
rose lagoon
Best sniper is krag
sullen dew
I can get 40 kills as well easily but whats the point of using a sniper rifle
brave coral
yes because you’re never going to be effective sitting 300m from the objective 
sullen dew
If you cant play it at long range
Because you want that
To play that aggressive every time
sick hamlet
The G.95 was good in BF1 because it was always a 2BTK to the body at all ranges with its flat but high damage model paired with a fairly decent rate of fire.
echo oyster
Anyone wanna squad on bf4
sullen dew
Its basically what you are supposed to do
brave coral
there’s just not that much opportunity for kills since you’ve probably got poor sightlines
rose lagoon
Krag best sniper
brave coral
@echo oyster try checking our lfg channels
sullen dew
You can easily be outclassed by any gun by playing too aggressive
brave coral
m95 and arisaka are very nice all round rifles
rose lagoon
Krag bullet velocity is hard to beat
coral smelt
If any of you can't headshot on irons past 50m you are failures at sniper mains
rose lagoon
Ross rifle decent
brave coral
if you’re trying to force a gun to be effective by playing in a way that just inherently is not useful and not playing to the gun’s strengths, don’t be too shocked when it doesn’t work incredibly
sick hamlet
And if the gun doesn’t particularly have strengths to begin with?
sullen dew
Just because at 150 m or below
You can just aim for the head without account for bullet drop
sick hamlet
Like, the ZH-29 has a higher muzzle velocity and better consistency than any bolt action.
sullen dew
I would rather get 16 kills each game with each kill adding to my skill
And slowly improving than hunting for kills at mid range
brave coral
then you do that? i’m not sure what the issue is
sick hamlet
The glory days of the Italian carbine in BF1. No aiming, just hipfire.
brave coral
i don’t see many complaints tbh
sullen dew
Doesnt mean they dont exists
dense blaze
Anyone know how to get matches / servers with maps that are NOT Siege of Shanghai?
On Xbox, BF4
sullen dew
Snipers are underpowered and thats the opinion of majority of people
dense blaze
I swear that’s the only map I can ever get....
sick hamlet
Don’t play BF4? Complacent gaming syndrome is strong on the remaining community
brave coral
use the server browser and look at the details for a server you’re joining
dense blaze
I do.. they’re always just empty
brave coral
however it’s a pretty popular map so wouldn’t be surprised if it’s often present
dense blaze
Does anyone here think that the rent-a-server features kills the game?
sick hamlet
And the DLC maps are left to die
dense blaze
They seem to just take over
sullen dew
You have never played comp @brave coral . I have interacted with a lot of people, streamers, gamers,etc. People in comp know enough to not even take the snipers seriously
dense blaze
And official servers die — even if I queue for quick match — it still throws me in a rented sever...
sullen dew
They know they are useless in comp
Everyone thinks that snipers are just annoying in bfv
brave coral
Snipers are underpowered and thats the opinion of majority of people
the majority of people don’t really participate in discussions in the community, they just kinda... mind their own business and play
sick hamlet
Man, I just want a world where I can pick a weapon class without feeling like I’m handicapping myself
sullen dew
So why do you care so much. I never targeted you when i said snipers are underperforming and underpowered. You are the one who got triggered by that yourself
dense blaze
BC2 / BF3 class set ups where perfect
brave coral
i’m not sure how many times i’ve said this but can we make a distinction between competitive and the rest of the game? balancing around one small part of the community’s opinions that suits them isn’t a good idea
dense blaze
I like having a set class ... RPGs with engineer, med packs with assault
sick hamlet
BF3, where M16 reigned supreme and we had assault medic revival chains
sullen dew
I never said all the people who said snipers are underpowered are comp players
dense blaze
I feel like they ruined it all with how they did it in BF1/V
You think they’ll go back to proper class set ups for BF6?
brave coral
i’m not “triggered” i’m just saying i don’t really have any issues with using or facing them
sick hamlet
As far as class weapon balance goes, BFV got it right as far as gadgets for the most part I think.
sick hamlet
People will gravitate to the infinite health class if you make the primary weapons too strong
dense blaze
It felt like we really had to work as a team to help
sick hamlet
That’s what happened in BF1, B3 and BF4
dense blaze
It felt so balanced
sick hamlet
That’s not balanced. Because it turns 1 class into almost a do-everything class
dense blaze
Wel, true
But, I love AT mines and RPGs, I was always taking out the enemy vehicles
One mate was always sniping, then we had the med guy
sick hamlet
As far as gadget changes go, I’d give the AT weapons to Medic and turn that into a generalized support class while the current support could be renamed Gunner or something.
dense blaze
It rocked man. Felt good. I’m patiently waiting for battlefield to come back in full force
rose lagoon
@dense blaze dude go to multiplayer and go to server filter by pressin Y
coral galleon
vote right here- stuka b-1 or stuka b-2?
sick hamlet
So SMGs with either medic packs or AT/AA launchers. Machine Gunners with ammo.
rose lagoon
Then configure conquest whatever regoin u want how many empty slots u want and etc
dense blaze
As far as gadget changes go, I’d give the AT weapons to Medic and turn that into...
Noooooo😭 SMGS / AT mines & RPG
brave coral
b1 is fun with the bordkannonen (although a bit niche and has an annoying spec path to use them)
dense blaze
Theres always at least 2 full servers I play all the time
What maps?
brave coral
but you cannot deny the joy of dropping a metric ton of bomb on an enemy
sick hamlet
I mean, engineers in BF3 and 4 have SMGs with launchers.
dense blaze
I just want to play gulf of omen, caspieb border again
sick hamlet
Functionally it’d be merging that with the BFV medic
dense blaze
I mean, engineers in BF3 and 4 have SMGs with launchers.
Yeah, I hope it stays like that for BF7
6*
rose lagoon
@dense blaze select all maps
dense blaze
All?
rose lagoon
Or uncheck or check them all
dense blaze
It always seems to land on Shanghai
rose lagoon
Ya Yo ull have to play on an official server
U should be able to see the map rotation
Should be a dice server
dense blaze
Okay I’ll try and have a look, hopefully I get lucky
sacred root
is bf6 going to be next gen consoles only?
sick hamlet
Terrible mistake in BFV is giving launchers to assault. For the most part.
rose lagoon
Just select multiplayer and press y then customize ur servr filter
sick hamlet
That really turned them into a do everything class
brave coral
is bf6 going to be next gen consoles only?
we don’t know officially yet but i would personally say there’s a high likelihood of that being the case
dense blaze
I think AT mines & launchers should always stay together, but not with AR’s
brave coral
we’ll probably know for sure in the next few months
sacred root
we don’t know officially yet but i would personally say there’s a high likelihoo...
unfortunately thats what i think too
dense blaze
You guys think BF6 will be like BF3?
sick hamlet
AT Mines, Launchers, and Medical stuff under a generalized support class with SMGs is what I would like.
rose lagoon
Like bf4
dense blaze
Modern, proper open maps
coral galleon
can i swear in this goddamn fucking sunuvabitchass server?
dense blaze
Yeah, or 4
rose lagoon
Ya
brave coral
making medic also the main AT class seems... odd to me personally
coral galleon
god i fuckin' hate tanks, so annoying
brave coral
giving it two very major roles
dense blaze
I want those big maps again. Kharg island, Caspien, omen
coral galleon
planes, you can just hide in buildings and they won't notice or care
tanks always search for you tho
sick hamlet
Eh, it’s moreso to prevent stuff like making one class a do everything
rose lagoon
@dense blaze Ya go to multiplayer tuen select server browser
brave coral
but in doing that you sort of make that class a do-(almost)-everything
dense blaze
Viper / Havok
sick hamlet
Give launchers to assault and it skews class balance. Give launchers to the ones with ammo packs and they have infinite gadget use
rose lagoon
@dense blaze then press y the res self explanatory
dense blaze
Miss those attack helis
rose lagoon
Then when u find some servers favorite them
sick hamlet
Eh, the trade off there is that they get suffer in combat potential with their armaments in exchange for powerful gadgets
rose lagoon
Press x on it then left stick
brave coral
i personally don’t really have any issue with having assault as it is setup in bfv
dense blaze
👍
brave coral
for the most part every class has fairly good killing potential anyway, it’s not got anything special that would really justify removing most of its AT without another major change
sick hamlet
Assault in BFV is overwhelmingly dominant precisely because it can do everything
Just about anyway.
brave coral
personally having a primary AT class, a secondary class and the rest can do a little chip damage is a good system
sick hamlet
You’re never too far from an ammo or med crate since basically every cap has them and there’s often enough one between caps.
And everybody carries on demand healing, in top of light infantry spec enhancing passive regen and ammo pickup
static surge
Someone on my team has over 100 days in BFV. Jeez.
brave coral
ie assault with launchers and tnt, support with slightly more passive AT and medic and recon having access to very light AT/utility stuff
i wouldn’t say “overwhelmingly dominant”. it’s marginally more popular than the other classes but it’s maybe a 2:1:1:1 in most of my matches (very roughly speaking)
sick hamlet
I’d give the passive explosives (mines) to the machine gunner class, launchers to a generalized support class with SMGs and perhaps shotguns, and active explosives like tnt and weaker ones like the Grenade rifle to assault.
Bonus points of DICE ever brings back equipment impacting mobility like it did in BF2142.
rose lagoon
@dense blaze lemme know how it goes
sick hamlet
Basically, you’d wind up with one class that’s specialized around offense, one around defense, and one around support functions for either healing or anti-vehicle stuff.
sick hamlet
Battlefield Hardline 2: this time with drugs as gadgets and weapons
brave coral
never fully understand how people get to that many kills with any one thing, especially with obscure stuff like the syringe
i get bf1’s been out 4 years but my highest kill guns are only a little over 1k kills in bfv (but then i have a lot of guns sitting around the 600 mark, like 35 or so because i got a lot of them to gold dogtag)
solid hinge
Is there battlefield 4 tournaments?
languid shale
Nah
Probably not
Even then if you're the kinda person to take battlefield as serious as an esport then you might wanna move to counter strike
rose lagoon
Never really realized how beast i am at s iling
Sniping*
24/ average with krag
Good rifle
solid hinge
Even then if you're the kinda person to take battlefield as serious as an esport...
Just wondering what is available for the ps4
sleek heath
I’d give the passive explosives (mines) to the machine gunner class, launchers t...
Support is machine gunners.
rose lagoon
Y'all ever snipe and hit perfect shots and feel like they Jus get rejected?
wheat willow
Battlefield Hardline 2: this time with drugs as gadgets and weapons
ah yes I love taking methamphetamine while shooting cops and taking cash on the Battlefield
rose lagoon
😳
Can do a line to speed up
Smoke some weed to focus ur snipes
Get drunk in a tank
Destroy everything
wheat willow
take crack to go in a blind rage
coral smelt
Nonono
rose lagoon
Lol
rose lagoon
Melee range 1000
coral smelt
HRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
wheat willow
just seeing a criminal hard on shrooms running at me with a fire axe and screaming
coral smelt
LIKE A TRUE NORSEMAN EAT THE DEATH CAP
TO VALHALLA MY BROTHERS
HRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
proven charm
coral smelt
When was this taken Twee
proven charm
a few hours ago
proven charm
xbox is very fun
coral smelt
Yes
proven charm
much more fun than pc imo
uneven hollow
That’s pretty pog
coral smelt
Quite
fresh stag
coral smelt
Twee which sniper rifle you use most in bf1
proven charm
the lebel is pog
coral smelt
Yes
8 rounds just beats shit
makes a 300+m shot with irons zeroed to 75m
That was the best headshot I've ever done with dlc rifles
proven charm
theres a flakpanzer camping in the same spot in my lobby
proven charm
*makes a 300+m shot with irons zeroed to 75m*
most ive gone is 100m
proven charm
ive done like a 400m with the gewehr 90 sniper though
proven charm
aight i rage quitted bf5
coral smelt
Who jasnt
proven charm
camping flak gun
coral smelt
You have to be mother Theresa to not rage quit bfv
proven charm
did you know theres a 4 barelled 20mm anti air tank that shoots at around 700 rpm in bf5
tl;dr it fucking melts planes
i cant take it out at all
coral smelt
Ouch
proven charm
i tried kamikaze and missiles
coral smelt
Sounds like a great time
proven charm
the tank hasn't moved a millimetre since he got there, apart from campers bf5 is kinda fun
i love the gunplay in it
coral smelt
Fair
proven charm
but bf1 is better
coral smelt
100%
proven charm
im not leaving bf1 until after i get service stars for every weapon and gadget
coral smelt
Agreed
I'll leave once I have 100 kills on the gas mask
Only then...
Only then...
proven charm
theres some Brazilian guy on xbox who has 87 ss on the syringe
proven charm
10a slug is pog
coral smelt
Because moar weapons have higher firerates
wheat willow
Pistols in 5 are downgraded pistols of any other bfs
coral smelt
You need to switch moar and so they kinda need to be better
And that is true
Bf1 pistols kick ass
coral smelt
Yeah
wheat willow
Bf1 pistols kick ass
fuck yeah they do, got 5 SS on my 1911
coral fiber
Mans got juked
proven charm
i wish we could aim in the pfaust just like in the alpha
coral smelt
Damn
At least bfv has easy to use AT systems for infantry
Best BF1 has is at mines that are bitches to use
Dynamite that goes 3 feet
Chunky grenades
tender wagon
Though bf1 had more maps then bfv
coral smelt
And a rocket launcher that is a massive bitch
But I mean
The skill requirement is higher
tender wagon
BFV rocket launcher just feels weak
prime pine
Which rockets? The bazooka?
tender wagon
I think its the bazooka
prime pine
Yeah its the weakest but has the most range and capacity
left whale
I remember I did kill the transport vehicle from top right objective to the bottom right objective in aerodome
If you know what you’re doing, the bazooka can destroy everything
But I wouldn’t use the bazooka to kill a tank, that’s all
sleek heath
I equipped Demolition grenades and a Panzer 38T rolled over it, but it did no damage. Literally none. No number or hit marker on screen.
solid hinge
Battlefield 1 is dead on ps4
tender wagon
Damn
solid hinge
And the 0000.1% chance of you finding a match is always full of only sweats
It sucks
dense bone
such is the case with old games that arent consistently popular
solid hinge
The thing that I hate too is that battlefield 1 is suck an amazing game yet people are still willing to play battlefield 5 and when they do stop the go to battlefield 4 instead
If you ask me I think battlefield 1 is better then 4
But idk
wheat willow
have you used the server browser?
wheat willow
also yes I agree BF1 > BF4
rose lagoon
I can run with a pistol and do great
solid hinge
sup pepos
solid hinge
for BF1, how come the basic martini-henry infantry can’t one shot, but the one with the gold and black weapon skin can? Is there a difference?
no
no
sour stratus
Excuse me?
solid hinge
skins in bf games give no advantage
i guess people think it does since other games do
solid hinge
idk, i can take 90 off their health but whenever i get one shotted with 100hp it’s always with that same shiny skin for some reason
torn mango
There is a sweet spot mechanic in BF1
solid hinge
oh
wheat willow
improve your aim
sour stratus
No matter the skin you have
wheat willow
there's no p2w mechanics in BF dude, it all comes down to skill
sour stratus
If it was the case bf1 would be even more p2w
solid hinge
the only thing i play that is p2w is real life
wheat willow
true
torn mango
solid hinge
nvm i think i figured it out, sorry and thanks haha
wheat willow
lul
serene oak
a new battlefield 3 limited edition has showed up in my origin game library while i already had bf3 with premium since earlier. What is this?
coral fiber
Model 27 best sidearm
icy sluice
Model 27 best sidearm
Have you had a match of Hardcore yet? :p
icy sluice
I hit this neat clip with the Welrod earlier https://streamable.com/1wfxn1
edgy stag
auto throttle on or off?
silk sphinx
n
coral fiber
https://streamable.com/khv2jr
Lmao
reef frigate
Getting a new PC soon what battlefield should I get ?
silk sphinx
yall tryna play Battlefield 3?
sour stratus
!!lfg
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silk sphinx
Getting a new PC soon what battlefield should I get ?
Battlefield 3-5
reef frigate
@silk sphinx Is bfv worth 40 bucks ?
silk sphinx
damn well unless u wanna see ur teammate get revived by a fuckin high five
but i've seen gameplay and it looks good
i havent seen any for BF4
reef frigate
might just get cod then xd
silk sphinx
but i play alot of BF3 and its rlly good
reef frigate
I feel like thats a sin here xd
silk sphinx
like Conquest on Operation Metro for BF3 is amazing and it gets u hyped in a way lol
silk sphinx
I feel like thats a sin here xd
🤣
paper saffron
Anyone want to squad up and play bf5?
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rose lagoon
Where would I post a game I did
wheat willow
not until you get Regular
hard nimbus
is bf 5 good?
i use to love bf1
im considering switchin from bf4 to one of those two again
dense bone
yes bfv is good
wheat willow
gunplay and vehicle play are both nice
wheat willow
if you're looking for atmosphere than stick to bf1
hard nimbus
bf5 got none?
prime pine
It has atmosphere but it isn't as big as bf1's
Dunno
I've played bf5 since launch and I've lost touch with that part
wheat willow
I think the only atmospheric map I can think of is Devastation
sour stratus
Devastation is decent
Panzerstorm with the Germans attacking was also nice
Blasting ghost division to increase performance
solid hinge
hello
hard nimbus
bf1 was pretty good and nostalgic, but i do wanna try out the new game
rose lagoon
What u keam atmospheric
Mean*
Panzerstorm is a nightmare
If u like dyin to tanks ull like panzerstorm
sour stratus
Panzerstorm can get somewhat atmosphere when all tanks push to the objective
solid hinge
XDDDDDD
steam does the same shit sometimes
enter the night
a flash in the darkness
icy otter
how much xp do I need to get to tanker level 10 in bf1
gilded zenith
@sturdy heron just end the bf process from task manager
sturdy heron
@gilded zenith There's no Battlefield 3 in Task Manager.
weary isle
tough lodge
yes they only banned me on their server
solid hinge
the 7.62 miniguns on the scout heli are really the equivalent of brrrrt on the a-10 :D
It’s me joe primanti
it's me ivan
I got a question
What do you think about the granados?
which game
or just grenades in general
The granados
The family
idk they're fine
Huh
The rosatos?
who these mfs
Another family
Answer me
Well I can draw only one conclusion
You are scum
thanks
tough lodge
few moments before i got beaned from the server 
sorry for low quality i streamed this on fb and cant download clips directly so i used a third party downloader
solid hinge
i like the banned AND kicked
tough lodge
here's my final score
solid hinge
you get the full package
tough lodge
how is 51-9 hacking
just yesterday i played on other server and went 71-10
didnt get banned
fucking badmins man
solid hinge
is it pc or console
tough lodge
PC
solid hinge
lol
tough lodge
so can I report a server for false bans?
the report options earlier were only offensive server name/description
somehow i feel good getting banned on a server with badmin
proves that i'm better than them
prime pine
Hundy bomb with the Thompson mate
rose lagoon
Thompson is stupid good
prime pine
Fast bolt zk 383 seems to be something to get into
Considering how popular it is in oce
sweet moss
Fast Rof ZK = best all around smg, like a harder hitting type 100
I love it personally
Switch to slow fire spec for range and it still melts too....
solid hinge
i hear the drums echoing tonight
tough lodge
it is
timid arrow
Damk
sweet moss
Perhaps...is it just me or do the fuel tanks on Wake island randomly explode, killing you instantly as "killed in action"?
tough lodge
@sweet moss it doesnt randomly explode
timid arrow
"Killed by faulty tank"
sweet moss
So it's being bombed by a plane then?
timid arrow
Im getting bf 1 cause im a historian and i wanna see more eras
Im starting with ww1
I hope bf 6 is about the victorian period or 1776
To much modern games rn 👀
wheat willow
the'll most likely not do that but one can dream
timid arrow
Damn
quartz elk
who from russia? i can good gunner on heli or good teammate
solid hinge
if you have someone to help you take out the enemy little birds
the loadout with 25mms and lasser guided do be nutty tho
recks infantry and boats
i like it
solid hinge
mann attack jets are so bloody good but so hard to play
when you either don't have a semi good wingman in your team or the enemy are pros in the jets
sour stratus
Disable origin overlay
sour stratus
That is a question I don't know
wary mason
honestly i think the issue is the discord overlay and not the origin overlay
sly wing
I just cant look around or shot in bf3
wary mason