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well, the passion you’re continuing this with despite everyone else saying “yeah ok we get it” suggested that. sorry i misread it i guess
You can’t mix balance and whatever subjective accomplishment the player feels
Honestly we were so spoiled with all the camo options for our guns in BF4
And meanwhile you get 2 free camos, gun part by gun part, by getting a gun from 1 to 10
in BFV
you also have two more from continuing to use the gun, plus there’s been a ton of free ones through ToW and stuff
Well Dice propably cared a bit about bf4
I think it's okay for me to be passionate about things concerning a Battlefield game on a Battlefield Discord lmao.
for the general Liu rifle, should I use the factory or the storm variant? Sorry for saying it again, but I just want to know
admittedly more so for certain guns but i don’t really care that much
In most cases, any upgrade thats "magically better" has a distinct downside. Faster rate of fire? No mag upgrade, higher recoil (or less recoil control). And in most other cases where thats not entirely true, the change is minute. Get something that decreases recoil? The gun still has recoil, it doesn't become a pure laser. On top of that, just like everything else, you may be sacrificing the ability to get another upgrade by choosing the recoil decrease.
But it's not "lower magazine comparing to raw version", it's "same magazine, strictly better rate of fire"
@novel iron factory resets faster, but storm has less overall recoil per shot
yeah it’s like... ooh boy 10% reduced hrec, god gun status amirite
I think Escape from Tarkov generally does gun customization really well
I'm not saying lower magazine comparing to raw version, I haven't said that once. I'm saying sacrificing the ability to get an increased magazine size, which may put you at a disadvantage in some cases to someone who did choose the magazine size, but may also give you an advantage over that same player in other cases.
Or, by definition, specialization.
Except Battlefield is a sandbox and arcade shooter and Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege is a tactical shooter.
That's not in my view a worthy scarifice
Then thats just you
"Which way do you want your gun strictly better" is no way to go about this imo
omfg we know you don’t like it
Do I have to post the whole wall I posted earlier again, referring to why having distinct improvements allows you to decide what you want from the gun?
Because we're going in circles at this point
Yah, I want options. I want there to be a reason why someone might want to go with a raw gun.
At that point, whats the point of even having a leveling system?
Except you and your buddy are not explaining how it’s unbalanced and they themself admitted that they just don’t like specializations because it feels “cheap”.
Tie more camos to level-ups, that'd be grand!
Dog tags too, that was fun from BF3 and 4
If every raw gun is just as viable...I can't believe I have to ask this again, but wheres the incentive to upgrade or actually learn the weapon.
To give you options.
Rainbow six siege
Oh boy, my gun looks a bit more like an autistic toddler's baby toy. Yay! Incentive!
CSGO
Hell, even LOL or whatever
It’s not the tool that determines the player, it’s the player who determines the tool
It should “suit” you.
What a stupid sentence lmfao
If every raw gun is just as viable in the role it was designed for... you have a balanced game
Whats the point of a gun if you’re just grinding it to meta
I don’t see any accomplishment in that
I'm not gonna say that skins aren't incentive. I've seen enough people with Dark Matter camoflages on CoD games to know thats not the case. But its a much stronger incentive to learn the weapons by allowing for distinct improvements.
Why do you want a gun incentive
I'm all for distinct improvements, with downsides to consider.
R6 and CSGO don’t need you to grind for attachments
The game itself is an incentive
If you can’t make a game that’s incentivizing enough
To the point where you need to have people grind for buffs
And that may be true, but then is it a moot point to add another layer of incentive?
It’s unnecessary and creates linear meta
The incentive why people should play a game is because it's fun.
R6 even removed that incentive
Like theres not meta on CSGO and R6?
It's enjoyable. And yeah I totally get that getting good with a weapon, or levelling up, or even loot boxes can act as an incentive
I’m saying it becomes a rigid meta
Having to grind every one of them just to get the attachments you need, became a deterrent from expanding what you use
League of Legends is a MOBA. You are comparing different genres of games. League doesn’t have guns.
That’s why you can’t use renown to buy attachments anymore in r6
Metagaming is definitely a scourge
I'd argue thats a case of it being more appropriate to hate the player, not the game. Every game is going to have a meta, and BFV is no exception. But by going outside the meta and exploring, I've had a blast in BFV by experimenting with weapons and finding what I enjoy.
That's also true Gecko
In a balanced game, you should be able to contend regardless of what attachments you have
I am not an expert in BF5
So I can’t say whether the gunplay currently is balanced
I personally play BFV (and BF4) trying to max out all the weapons ranks
And get them all to the top level
bf5 current gunplay is balanced-ish
But like, there are people out there who are genuinely only starting out and all they do is play with the most meta guns
they reversed it, mostly
And if that's how they wanna play then I guess? But also, how sad that they're not willing to try any other gun because that particular one is meta
I had no incentive to use anything else because it took too much time to get the best out of each of the other guns
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege has a meta. Attachments and operators are picked more than others. Operators are better in the same role than others. Your own logic has been used against you.
Yes, but at least you don’t have to grind to get red dot
Or grind to get ACOG
It’s the same with BF
There is a attacahemnt meta
Y’all just aren’t competitive enough
To realize what sights are statistically better
I think sights are a good example of balanced attachments
Not saying y’all are bad, but the community isn’t as strict about it
Here, have this 4x scope which is gonna make you better at mid range
The BFV "meta" seems to be StG's or Semi autos in a lot of cases. I played like that for a while, before I branched out and tried out different guns. For example, I took the Lee-Enfield and found out its specialization that allowed for greater mobility and a faster bolt instead of equipping a bipod and zeroing mechanic, and used it as an infantry rifle instead of a sniper, and now its one of my more proficient weapons
But much worse at short range
If BF comp players calculated the average engagement distances at high traffic areas
6x is best scope
It would probably give some conclusions to a sight meta
BFV Meta... Type 2A for Medics, M1 Automatic for Assault
But a lot more variation in Recon and Support
No specializations in Battlefield V are “needed”.
Type 2A is far from meta lmao, especially after it got nerfed
And if it becomes too heavy, it hurts balance
BF4 definitely had a meta because you could put a grip with no downsides for nothing, a red dot to replace ironsights with no downsides..
Type 2A is not at all far from meta. Half the Medics use those.
And one is in Battlefield V.
Imo it’s fine to have something with no downsides, but it should have very little impact or be infected with a “not as good as the others-itis
Such as vertical grip in r6
Respectfully Ember, you can contend regardless of what attachments you have, with foot soldiers' guns
I see MP-40's and thompsons about as much if not more than I see Type 2As. Its one of the more popular options, but its definitely not meta
I would definitely be better with a rank 4 Thompson than with a rank 0 one
I never see Type 2A
But I don't feel like I would be bad with a rank 0, and good with rank 4
Theres even better options than the Type 2A for medic anyways, the Suomi has higher DPS
I have not seen an MP40 since the first few weeks of the game's launch lmao
All sights are free in Battlefield V.
And better range and recoil control
This may be getting into confirmation bias territory. If you're more upset about a particular weapon (and therefore inherently looking for it more) you're going to tend to notice it more
Yes I’m saying attachments as a whole
I shouldn’t have to grind for the equivalent of a fore grip or angled
I feel like I see StG's all the time and complain about it being meta, but in reality, most of my deaths are to weapons that aren't the StG
Battlefield is not competitive. Battlefield has always been an arcade shooter.
That doesn’t mean we forget gun balance
Or progression
Progression systems should not be a deterrent to expanding what you play
I have no reason to grind any other guns than the unique or meta guns imo
the one weapon that kills me the most is type 2a prolly, but maybe that's because i play breakthrough
Unless I am trying to 100%
I wonder how a point buy system would work in Battlefield
No one does
The way Black Ops 2 had
Like a pick-10 system?
Yeah
So sure you can get strict upgrades, here's a grip to make your weapon more accurate
But that other guy used his points for more grenades so good luck not getting blasted
It'd be weird...but I guess it could work
It would definitely be weird
Honestly that just sounds like a more broad specialization system
Yeah thats effectively just broader specialization lmao
Yeah but broadening it is one way to stop a meta from developing
You don’t have to do anything.
Or at least a very strict one
Ye, you have to play that gun from rags to riches
As a matter of fact thats almost identical to what I was talking about earlier with mag sizes
At least COD I get everything even if I don’t use everything
He specced for more grenades, you specced for something else but maybe didn't lose your grenade entirely. Same thing as speccing for faster rof, but now can't spec for a larger mag size but didn't lose mag size.
Perhaps Gecko but consider that currently in BFV there is no reason NOT to invest CC into a gun when you rank it up
Should there be?
Yeah, so you can specialise in something else
It's one of the currency's main reasons for existing
Just throwing ideas
The currency's main reason for existing is making obtaining things slower and grindier
Once again we're getting into the issue of incentive to play
I mean, you used currency to get things back in Battlefield Hardline
Sure, the game itself should provide incentive, but someone's much more likely to come back and play again if theres a feeling of progression
Same thing goes for a gun specialization. Someone's much more likely to come back and use a weapon if theres a sense of progression in their ability with it, both through weapon performance and through personal proficiency
I thought you disliked specializations?
I dislike how they are handled in BFV.
soo... this all comes down to “you need to spend the virtual currency that comes pretty quick to unlock specialisations”?
no fucking way i didn’t clock that
Why are you still talking to me when I'm not talking to you lmao.
crazy little thing called “discord server with 87k members”
wait this isn't just to talk to dr, way and angra etc?
I was clearly responding to Weeb, why do you have to go out of your way to make comments if you're not going to say anything productive, damn son
Name every member 
i'd run out of names to give to every member 😦
i’m not sure what’s productive about explaining why a system everyone agreed was flawed for an hour but ok
this wasn’t even trying to explain why we’re wrong
I will pay someone to get BF5 working on my computer. I click "Multiplayer" and it crashes without error.
Why have you been talking to us for the past hour when you have been saying nothing productive, repeating yourself and we told you multiple times we understood the point you were attempting to make, but we rebutted it.
it was
“specialisations isn’t a great system”
“yeah we know”
“did you hear me? it sucks. i don’t like it. you shouldn’t like it either, i don’t like it, it’s bad”

Also something else I've just realized, I think the argument of not having access to a larger mag size in exchange for something else not being a big enough disadvantage loses its credibility with certain weapons. It may not be the end of the world with something like the thompson (20 rounds vs 50 rounds), but that difference becomes astronomical with other weapons such as the MG-42 (50 rounds vs 250 rounds). Both these guns sacrifice ammo capacity for rate of fire and vice versa.
Given how quick reloading speed in Battlefield V is for many weapons, I've been picking the rate of fire spec more and more
yeah tbh the mag size/rof choices are the only ones that really have any real consequence
Ok
It's satisfying to just shred, and I feel like trying to empty all 250 rounds in one place makes you an easy target
Besides, on the MG42 if you pick the ROF over 250 mags, you never overheat
yeah i’ve been using the 1200 rpm mg42 for the memes
But at the same time on the MG42, in a defensive situation, you'll want as many rounds as possible to get caught reloading less often, which is a big deal when talking about a defensively oriented, slow(er) reloading weapon like the MG42
I wanna use the MG42 so bad but everytime you fire 3 round yore dead by a sniper so annoying
it is somewhat limiting but god it really do go brrrt [reload] brrrt
BRRRRRRRRRT
I use Light Bolt MG42 for historical accuracy because it had a rate of fire of 1200.
Brrt gang
Different bolts could give different rates of fire
The MG-42 actually had a rate of fire from anywhere between ~950-1500 IIRC
i also use the 20 round mag thompson bc it just looks better imo
So the "slower" RoF is still accurate
Yah, uncle Wikipedia agrees with you

I will pay someone to get BF5 working on my computer. I click "Multiplayer" and it crashes without error.
thats pretty much my main source on historical information but shhhhhh
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you owe me a tenner if you get an answer from that 
I sent a ticket to EA a year ago, never responded
May not be much help, but you may just wanna try again
There's a chat option??
better than just letting it sit
could u be banned?
Lol wat
idk
Contrarywise, every German squad in World War 2 had a machine gunner equipped with the MG34 and later MG42 to provide local fire superiority. The squad would advance under the covering fire of the machine gun and the machine gun would stop if necessary in a phase of an attack.
i dont know what happens when banned players try to connect
It crashes on campaign too. I just barely play that
did u buy the game legitimately or did u buy a key or smth
I'm not saying you can't use an MG42 or 34 offensively, but by nature, the weapon exceeds more defensively
ik games bought off g2 whatever often crash
In BFV at least
yeah in a game the irl usage doesn’t always translate lol
you can use the mg42 pretty offensively tbh
attacking with mmg is shit in my experience
i find i can only use them when defending on bt
Its possible, but you really do need to have mastered the weapon to exceed at it
i’ve recently figured out that actually the tightened hipfire for MMGs is actually pretty effective up close
i'm a battlefield virgin, what game should I get?
I'm rank 230+ and I still struggle attacking with the MG-42
the latest one for obv reason
I feel like LMGs and MMGs in Battlefield V don't really get their heyday
you’ll probably get the best experience with V
I'd recommend BFV, it plays best and has the largest player count right now
You're either close enough to get shredded by submachine guns or assault rifles
alr
Or far enough to get doinked the second you set your bipod up
older games have sparse player counts and the sweats can be pretty unforgiving for noobs
there’s some nice lmgs, mmgs are kind of a matter of preference
LMG's are basically just assault rifles honestly
MMG's take learning to really exceed with though
bf4 still ..
they big mag ars with bouncier recoil
BF4 is up there, but BFV is about even if not higher
ZK is an SMG
Shhh. LMGs.
oh ok
ye but irl it was initially designed for an lmg role for some reason 
ah yes, my fav lmg, the zk
oh you were making a different joke
I mean, both the ZK and Type 100 both sort of took on that LMG-type role
But they both fall under the SMG category due to caliber
tru
Yeah of course I was just making a joke cause they're SMGs with bipods
but whoever designed the zk was probably tweaking considering the amount of substances floating around
so i guess it’s understandable
ZK? isn't that a Czech submachine gun?
Its Czech, but slated for use by the Germans
I downloaded bf4 😋
zk underrated
I think the BAR gets slept on
The fast ROF ZK is amazing up close yeah
Looks beautiful
The variable fire mode.... oh mama
big mag zk>
yeah slow RoF on the BAR is 
Chauchat is honestly slept on more than the BAR
literally a laser
i wouldnt say its damage output is similar to a dmr
I saw more people using Chauchat than BAR, but that's just my experience
it still a bb gun, all the smgs are
Not that either of them are bad but god damn does the Chauchat slap still
I see BAR more often personally
I think thats about par for the course with personal experience
I tend to play close quarters so I run into more BARs
I'm lukewarm about the welgun
Enjoyed using it but eh
The grease gun is savage though
It was fun while I used it, but I don't use it much though
Love the grease gun, the 3 BTK up close is hard to beat
And the meaty headshots
I just had to go with a silencer
Silencer for the memes lol
And panicked people not knowing where they're getting shot from
silencer never works on me cause i dont rely on hit indicators
TIL Czechs produced naval artillery guns during 1919-1945 period
Without having a navy, all for export
Lmao
yeah it’s mostly just going to mean i have marginally less chance of getting to cover/killing the guy
War is a profitable business
PMC Battlefield please thank you.
the czechs did a lot of manufacturing and export
I love wallbanging people with the MMGs
Like nah mate, that sandbag is not gonna save you, death by a thousand cuts to you
"The Bren gun was a licensed version of the Czechoslovak ZGB 33 light machine gun" thanks uncle wikipedia, you're right
it’s like br[smth]-enfield
i really want to wear my battlefield 2 shirt more but i don't want to wear it out from washing it too much 😦
it's the one with the tank on the back that says spawn camp this
No, seriously dude, wear it. It's a shirt.
tbh i kinda like the faded look with certain stuff
I mean, even if it's not JUST clothes to you
You lose out more by not wearing it, than you do by wearing it
You say you really want to wear it.... then do it.
i have this t-shirt with a star wars: solo design on it which kinda got crackly and faded but it just looks vintage now lol
The Type 100 and ZK are SMGs.
it was a joke
i love how grenades cease to exist after you've died
you don’t need to respond or something from 10 mins ago
*that we’ve moved on from
oh yeah there’s a weird period where it has an existential crisis
Does any weapons come included in bf1 revolution for multiplayer
Is this another joke or am I not getting something?
in the name of the tsar
I just noticed your pfp, nice one lol
the BAR m1918A2 has variable RoF and the slower firing one is very nice to use
Makes me wonder why there were no more weapons with selective fire rate
Is it a specialization or just press the change fire mode button?
Latter
most are just linked to specialisations, and afaik there weren’t many guns other than machine guns with controllable fire rates
That's probably a no-can-do with bolts, but I wish that if you had the "lightened stock" specialisation it would actually look different
All this time I thought the BAR only had a fast rate of fire and that’s why it’s recoil points to the sky.
lol
yeah the recoil is pretty bouncy at anything more than like 20m
*with the default RoF
but it’s virtually 0 recoil with slow mode
Same thing with Fg42 -- one of the most underrated guns in the game
I feel like FG42 could afford to be a bit stronger
Given it has a 20 round mag and a relatively slow reload
And has full/semi option
Like, it was in a good place a long while ago and then it was nerfed
Made me upset cause I love running the bayonet on it for the memes
oh yeah it was one of the ones that got nerfed into a nerf gun in 5.2
I wish they added a Okinawa or Saipan map for bf5 Pacific War
some guns didn’t really get hit too hard but you needed literally like more than half the mag’s worth of hits to kill at 20m
I'd love an air superiority mode.
ik it was a minute ago but thx lol
I think it's crazy that BF3 and 4 had it with their selection of 2 jets, but BFV with light and heavier fighters doesn't.
it was a joke bc i won a prize for best food pics in my course’s discord so i made him a chef
also it was time to get rid of the santa hat
DrRamsy
DrOetken
A bit of a shame that the Sten never got a silencer
Between all the iterations of the Sten I feel like there was a lot of room for customisation
there’s actually a suppressed sten in one specific level of the campaign that you have to go to a really out of the way spot to find lol
I hope that the "paint each individual attachment" system doesn't return to the next game. I can see where they were going with it, but I feel like it adds very little. Especially since the camoed sights are not interchangeable.
Wow. And they couldn't be bothered to put it in the multiplayer? What a shame
no, they just didn’t feel it was right i guess
:/
nah, ur wrong
That may be an unpopular opinion but I dunno if there should be a singleplayer campaign for the next Battlefield title. Unless it was like Bad Company.
the diff paints for individual parts should stay in next game
while i do like the individual weapon parts in bfv, i think it would probably be better to go back to pre-set skins in a gunsmith system
I like the idea
oh?
Because it's cool that I can paint my gun, but not the mags
I'd be fine with some sort of extended tutorial
why nerf customization
i like it i just think it would maybe be tricky to implement properly with lots of attachments, idk
But then I'm like "oh hey I unlocked an urban camo scope I will never use because I don't use scopes on this gun"
i guess it could still work
"Yay"
Or you know when you unlock iron sights that apparently have some sort of camo, but look exactly the same as vanilla ones
yeah the main issue i have with it was that the paint job for the sights weren’t separate to the type of sight
One hundred percent^
Someone mentioned they want a post-apocalyptic Battlefield, a while back
i mean pretty minor but still, it would be nice to be able to use a full set with any sight you want
they prob havent cause premium dlc kills the game
we able to post battlefield links here? i forgot
and no one gets to play it
i mean youtube
but yeah i do like the individual pieces bc you can do stuff like this which i like
if it's a video you made or something i can recommend #streams-and-videos
skins should be separate from the attachment, but they prob wont do that
cause then they cant sell sets for mtx that way
I love what they did with guns which have like
Rags, or brush attached to them
I think it's super cool
montage by someone else but i do have my own videos ive made
yeah stuff like tape, foliage and shrouds are always nice
was lucky enough to mod two of the largest battlefield groups on fb and made videos to post in them lol. for bf4 and bf1
i remember this one guy who was... very upset by the bits of leather that some guns have with mint/gold parts?
like... calling it gay, getting messages deleted over it
like damn chill it ain’t that deep
I personally think that there are some customisation options in the game which are obnoxiously tacky but I got over it mostly
I think that Elites were a horrible idea
these are people we call true snowflakes
They went "here's all these customisation options so you can see yourself represented in the game" and then they went "here pay us money to look the same as everyone else"
if it was a milsim like hell let loose and they had steve running around then i would understand issues
but it’s not, it’s an arcade game so i don’t have any issues
yeah i don’t use them for that reason but i understand why people would want to, and it’s personal choice
It's hard not to eyeroll when you're the British fighting the Germans in 1940 and the enemy MVP team is 4x badass Japanese ninja lady
yeah the one thing i would change would be to have them faction locked but i’m not too bothered
nah thats hella based
getting best squad with all 4 members being misaki>
thats called swag
I wish that instead of saying "here's an elite she's a super special commando and ambush expert ahahaha"
They gave us the tools to create our own instead
Which we can, but obviously elites got extra attention because gibs me money
i’ve got more entertainment from redditors shitting their pants over a japanese lady in france than i would by having them faction locked so i don’t mind 
That's why I think a mercenary focused Battlefield game would get rid of a lot of those annoying people
faction locking is bad cause then where u can use said skin u purchased becomes severely limited
i would rather play a skin i got on most maps rather than 4 maps
being mad over that is just being a snow flake
So do your Messerschmitt camos when you're on the side of the British, and
nah considering the price of the basic epic skins i don’t think it would be that much of an issue
There's (almost) always going to be some limits, somewhere, and faction locking elites would've been a good one
but again i don’t really mind that much either way and it’s been, and continues to be a source of amusement watching redditors try to explain exactly why they hate it
anyone want to try tower of babel?
Then again I have to avoid a slippery slope cause
redditors explaining why japanese lady pixels ruin their immershun
Someone is going to say "I think we should faction lock weapons"
And I'm against that
yeah faction locked weapons would be awful lol
I like what Battlefield 3 did, where Americans started with M16A3s, and Russians with AK-74Ms
And when you reached top medic class you got the other weapon for the faction
ye that’s maybe the only exception - ie it’s not actually faction locked
i would say soft locked but that means something else
I'm still displeased that we can't customise the looks and loadouts of our tankers/pilots in BFV
Especially since you could customise the loadout in BF1
yeah it would have been nice potentially
but also generally speaking you shouldn’t really be out of your vehicle honestly
You can get revived after being blown up in a tank
true
I just don't like that I'm stuck with a sten/p38 combo.
But yeah, I get really salty when people in my team don't go down with the ship and give enemies a tank
who unironically wants to play as a tanker or pilot outside of the vehicle
yeah having a small selection of primaries, secondaries and gadgets would be nice
i hate when i die in a tank and someone revives me
I won't redeploy if I get revived, momma didn't raise no bitch
Sten, Mp40, grease gun, the pistol carbines
Or like, give us an ability to change to a normal loadout at ammo crates
there should be a way to change loadouts at crates
god that would be strange
Honestly, for normal people, I don't think so
Like, you come up on an enemy team w hen you're in a tank
that’s like the swbf2 campaign lol
And suddenly everyone changes in a split second to become an assault, wreeck you, and goes back to something else
not a good balance philosophy lol
^
i’m not a massive fan of loadout switching in general honestly
people always went on about being able to kill the medic first, doesn’t mean much when you kill the medic first then his buddy turns into a medic and revives him
Speaking of buddy revives, I actually like that system in BFV
yeah it’s something i really hope stays
It doesn't feel OP cause the animation sticks a while
But it rewards you for staying in your squad
along with just the revive animations for everything honestly
In addition to call ins
I also really enjoy battle pick up system
Where sure you have some more powerful gear, but not everyone in the team can have it
yeah i hope they use more battle pickups and with more of a bfv system than bf4
ie mostly gadget-y things rather than primary guns that drop when you switch to something else in your loadout
I wish that you could read up in BFV without alt-tabbing what are the stats and purpose of all the vehicle gear you have
i feel like that wouldve been in the game along with most things we wouldve liked if they had more than a year to dev the game
Do you want to know why they made Battlefield as it is
no
So i was here Yesterday but I got the bf 1& 5 bundle on Steam for $22.
should keep me occupied for a month lol
for all here a happy new 2021
u2
You too!
Is bf4 active on pc
Yes
happy new year 2021
good
anyone know the most active battlefield game on pc?
Probably 5
ahh thx
People
what battlefield game should i play?
bfv
not bfv
Well, was due for some bloody luck for a change
You just got right hooked by a burning plane carcass
I once died because a teammate blew up a Sherman
the turret went up... and right on my head, killing me instantly
Yup, been there
Happened to me with BF1 dreadnaught turret too
What I only clocked now is that the tail section bounced me up over the wall
I'm also very close to getting my last plane to level 6
i’ve got stuck on a piece of dead plane before, lost any sort of control or obeyance of the laws of physics and just got slowly carried out of bounds 
Yup, had that happen too
Although early BF1 was next level with planes stuck in each other
Let me check if I still have the ultimate case I had
i seem to remember seeing a clip where someone got out of their plane, ended up on top of the wings and shot the enemy pilot with a pistol 

0.5 Mbps upload
The pace
And yeah, good luck finishing plane lv 6s
Me and leveling Havoc up was just pure tilt
I'm not a bomber person
How tf do ppl get so good at planes?
took me like 5 watches to figure out wtf happened 
i was going to say like “when you crash so hard your bomber turns into a fighter”
happy new year to us all battlefield players 🙂
my 2021 already shit
Indeed same to you lad
Farts
BF1 anyone?
Found a guy with a ss bolts as his emblem made his game hell on purpose so much he quit 😂

Ha! I literally just tried this an hour or so ago. It was literally like being on a different planet. Went 3-14 in about 10 mins of operations 🤣
The gunplay completely foreign
Movement mechanics felt like I was on heavy dose hallucinogens
I keep forgetting I can’t slide and roll
I couldn't even tweek the sensitivity and fov settings to get it to feel normal
Yes, happened with me 2 hours ago as well
everyone scatters, while you walk up to the grenade thinking you can throw it back, looking like a right fool
tbf that implies that i don’t just walk and stand on top of grenades on a semi regular basis in bfv as well
Yeah, fair
I've found the impact grenade on support class to be incredibly useful on bfV
Better than a frag I think
why can i not hear footsteps in this game
this is terrible
i used to
noticed lately, im constantly getting ran up on
I just stick incendiary grenades on everything I can
i go AT bundle on assault, smoke on medic, impact on support, knives on recon
smoke is also good on recon
I always go smoke on recon
Yeah, AT in assault
i play with platronics rig 800
You can be second medic
I run medic smokeless
Damn that's savage
For what?
Nup, incendiary and medical pouches
Oh
No
AP mines
Love me APs
Yeah, not even mad if I die as long as I got that revive
It would be sweet to have the coordination to deploy/undeploy bouncing betties while you revive to protect the revive area from melee attack

I just use ‘em for a way of knowing when people push a point
I revive without cover
Snipers have a short attention span
I'm going to attempt to smoke grenade/plant ap mine/revive/undeploy ap mine/escape -- later on
It would be quite the feat though you have to admit
Oh definitely
I like to just screw around and do daring shit sometimes
I feel like if I tried your no cover revive method my squadmates would be pissed
Clan/platoon rather
On core random I wouldn't care
As long as you kill the gronk who killed the one downed, ur all good
You get a knack for it after a while
Ping the downed people so they know you’re intending to revive and they don’t skip, clear the area of all hostiles and then revive
As long as you don’t get killed when clearing the area because everyone hates a medic who pings and the doesn’t revive
I hope angra sees this -- my method would like a sort of kamakaze revive! Still get the kill with the ap mine
If the teammate survives you're golden
Or not or whatever f it lol
@uneven hollow write that down
Like on outpost Arras or something, where you basically know someone's following you into a building and you're downed teammate is near a doorway
Outpost aerodrome too
Only problem is that AP mines are no longer proximity and have a period of time before the little tripwires deploy
I mean well yea there’s that
I'm going to attempt to smoke grenade/plant ap mine/revive/undeploy ap mine/escape -- later on
Better film it
Oh yea I see
I actually did something similar where I placed a AP mine somewhere and made someone follow me which I laid down on said ap and he shanked me but he died

Iirc I think I survived the shank
It's so funny because I've never once had ap mines on my medic class ever. Never even considered it really
it’s not bad tbh although you sacrifice the extra smokes which sometimes come in very clutch
Are you now French Dr 
just smoke an area, push in with your smg, place down a random ap mine here and there and get some free damage
oui oui
well. it’s supposed to be a chef but french and chef is basically the same 

Fucking frenchie!
lol
some noob talking shit to me cause i got more hours on the game then he does
imagine tryna diss playtime hours when you play the same game a lot lmao
@prime pine WAYYYYY
Nice
There was a Ostwind camping in their spawn, but the P51K can't one-pass it so I just ended up grinding XP out of this one Ostwind
@uneven hollow i did a kamikaze on aa
idek how to do clips smh
Hit said share button
Legendary

plane assignment? for one of the elites right? 
for the weekly
200 dmg with planes
Whats the best sniper in bf1 for scout ?
oh
comes down to preference tbh
@coral fiber ye I saw it
I assume it's purchasable with boins?
Ye
im pretty good on bf1
on console
Achi baba is my favorite map
I just got 33 kills and 24 deaths
sweet
gewehr 95 infantry
😄
For me
It's either assualt or medic
sometimes sniper
but medic is my main
support is a useless class tbh
for me
i luv my semi-marksman rifle
its the factory one
ah a fellow medic main, I see you are a man of culture
yea
the useless class for me is most likely the recon
support is useful because ammo is essential
but like im a passive sniper, not an active one
true
passive like, camping basically lol
I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum
I'm on xbox
ye
i switched over from bf4 to bf1, as there was so MUCH sweat.
Some guy in his little AA bird was getting 106 kills and 21 deaths
wtf
I quit on bf4 to be honest, got boring for me
lvl 112 over here
i only take assault kit when there is an armored train. Those things are deli fucking licious LOL
nice
yea all games come and go with boredom
indeed
I plan to get a 5600x + RTX 3070 on my pc. But I know what to play lol. I'm not a competitve gamer, a very casual one
😂
But, I want it to run for 5-6 yaers
years*
yeah I could say the same for me
speaking of sniping, mind if I showcase some of my sniper clips to ya?
sure, probably see em later. I want to do some running on the tredmill for a bit, my eyes hurt a lil 😂
fair enough
december break is the only time i can fully game properly
i know this summer i wont get this big of a chance
but its alright, i still game here and there
yeah
I feel bad for new pilots in bf4
jets don't feel as good on 4
true
i really cant play cod anymore its so boring i really hope bf6 doesnt disappoint
yeah
atmospherically it's weak but yeah it can be fun
I die a lot in that game compared to 1 and back when I played 4
Long sight lines/vehicles with no real way to deal with em really irks me
Planes are the best check to tanks
Lol in bf4
Like in 2016
I was trying hard to become a decent jet pilot
In goldmund, I could dogfight easily
But I had a hard time getting ground kills
And JDAM was a no g9
Happy new year
old news carry on 
We don't really allow petitions
it wont do anything
Also, DICE ain't gonna overhaul a game when a new one is around the corner
That's like if CoD MW turned into a WWI game as Black Ops Cold War comes out
kinda wish they just stuck to making games with at least some degree of accuracy not having women running around on the front lines
I don't agree with that lol
It's just a game, let people do what they want in that regard
It's not changing history or anything, it's simply having fun with a game... not everything needs to be super limited to how it was portrayed
Same thing goes with BF1, it was nothing like WWI, most of the skins made absolutely no sense for them to be very common
and BF3 and 4 with the weapon variety
you make a game about ww2 but then change it that doesnt have the ww2 accuracy just so you wont "Offend" players with having "Less" women as it should be ?
It's a game, it doesn't need to be accurate at all as it's a form of art
bf1 had more accuracy towards ww1 though it wasnt bad
Who cares about historical accurate stuff on a game lol
If you want historical accuracy, there's the history channel
Or books
yes but even art has its accuracy thats like saying an an apple is the same as a pear - its not because of the difference in texture and flavor and such
it should be accurate
Wait
in such ways it should becuase you are already making the game dedicated towards ww2 and it should just be about the accuracy for ww2
How accurate does it have to be, such a thing is subjective to everything.
If it wants to have lazers, it can have lazers, if it wants to have unicorns, it can have unicorns
Isn’t having a player model of a woman in BFV optional?
Yeeah
It's totally optional yes
You can make some nice looking grills on BFV too 
Ngl, when I played Hamada for the first time, I felt the heat.
Loose part baby
If there was a stat that kept track of how much I played as a woman, it would probably be like 60-70%
accuracy and perfection is key to making a game based on passed events, that being said if its not a game based on prior real time events then really its just about perfection
so that boils to another statment
You can make a game based on it with your own twist
Why should we need to limit the developers of the game? 👀
Bf1 was a ww1 skin on a battlefield game
LOL
Hey guys, let's add jets to BFV now
Idk, content wise BFV is more than decent.
I really like the specializations for vehicles and gunplay
Tanks are so much fun
Agreed
You can also play games like Post Scriptum or Hell Let Loose... Brothers in Arms exist but that's mostly a Singleplayer Experience
They could use a tweak based on attrition but theyre so much fun
Basically
content yes but accuracy no - there were no women running around guns blazing in ww2 nor were there women in the germany army in ww2 until the end of the war that is
and I will keep playing as women because I have fun and enjoy it... as games should be, fun and enjoyable
It doesn't have to completely follow it
shoudlnt be an option
That being said, it is up to the player to decide
You can play the game you want to and not impose it on anyone else
You can spawn a tiger on maps that are based off before his introduction yet I don't see anyone complaining
You can run the fg42 on mercury, which literally was the operation that lead to the fg42 being developed!
Yeah
What about the guns that wouldn't have existed in the battles of BF3, BF4 and BF1?
What about the Railgun in BF4? :p
If you want a historically “accurate” war, there are games like hell let loose.
Same for the Churchill
I've always seen the battlefield series always experimenting with... experimental prototype guns and I love that aspect.
Yeah
well thanks for handing me that debate topic win guys you may rage at me in pm but otherwise happy new year to you all 🙂
Battlefield Series has typically been more open but also having a sort of cartoon appeal
Uh
The Hellreiger
1942 was a pretty cartoon-like game I'd say
The voice lines were all very funny and comical
BF always had that sandbox aspect
Handing the topic win? Excuse me?
Fucking rand coming in, proposing a win, oh well, they'll be forgotten.
Idk how people get mad over a woman in the game at this point. Especially if it is optional.
"Because ww2 didn't have woman soldiers" which ok thats pretty much true but in game it doesn't even do much
As in
Its not noticeable
I forgot Baron Von Zorn was a part of the Definitive Edition
As much and even so you dont give it a look
Yeah
W/e
Funny way to start the new year lol
I was a fighter and got blown up by a tank ;-;
It wasn't me this time
yeah
I remember someone I knew raging when he got shelled out of the sky
I suck so much at BFV
I got a funny message for taking down a plane
oh
I mean at this point I'm just an AA lol
Hold up mac that reminds me of something
Boron von zorn is a lovely outfit
I'm pretty sure I got that because of Definitive Edition
angra mind showing me the full set?
Officer is from the armory right?
Yea
Might be in the Definitive Edition as well
I'd have to check 
It is
"damn look at my kicks" -Harald
Harald with the timbs
Come here my little pog champ -earl
My P51D as of now
Just got battlefield 1 why do I have so many superior battlepacks?
pls
!!r3 still not allowed
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Also this read it
my friend has a battlefield 1,3,5
I cant go without the supercharger on the 51 d
Good to hear, but please comply with the rules
Did you get premium?
Poggers
guys ı am turkısh and your 1 dollar, 7dollar in turkey
You still need to comply with the rules
But rules state other wise 
come on guys ı need a bf1
@urban edge read
We hardly know you irl 
It's not a necessity
If anything just stay in said server and wait for a giveaway
Well this was unexpected
90% of the time I encounter stukas
They don't have upgraded gunners so I wasn't expecting that
I thought someone was behind me shooting which is why I looked back
that face just says "hehe you're fucked pal"
You gotta any pacific planes clips meme lad
No

Ya boy got 50 bucks steam
So I have an excuse to blow money on steam
So
Which battlefield should I buy?
Depends which kind of battlefield you feel 
I’m just in for a realistic shooter
So none of this fortnite jumping around shit
And I do quite emphasis graphics
So maybe BF1?
Well sadly I do not know which will be the top kek one
hopefully another lad knows the answer
So maybe BF 1 or 5?
BF1 is slow and has WWI atmosphere with historically accurate uniforms while 5 is a much more fast paced WWII "atmosphere" (there is none but it's quite fun) with soldier and vehicle customization
so take your pick
I say that the graphics in 1 are naturally beautiful
Alright
I’m gonna watch the gameplay
I’m thinking maybe a slower paced game so I can take in the sights
Most of my other games are fast
But I have watchdogs 2 and I can play it for HOURS
well it seems like BF1 is right up your alley
Thanks!
How much is BF1 on steam right now?
I don't really know for I'm a console pleb
oh that's the cheaper version
@solid hinge It depends.
pretty sure it's on sale so yeah I'd say it's worth it
it has Premium and the Heroes Bundle at a cheap price
Oh ok
So I thought over it and decided to do BFV
Here’s a question, do you guys think it will remain popular after BF6 comes out due to the number of bugs and hackers?
Depends
time will tell
BF6 will be next gen console exclusive
These days I have way less time on my hands and I think I’ll get more out of a fast paced game.
It depends
But, I don’t want it to be a waste of money if BF6 comes out and everybody leaves.
I can see a portion still playing bf5 until some sort of update comes out for the next battlefield
Or just people waiting for a review
Plus Christmas sales
When BF6 comes out I’m gonna buy it right away if I can
I know it’s a bad idea
But I want to go into the game unbiased by reviews and just play it
Im gonna pre order it to get my purchase out of the way
If that makes sense
If the shit you get for nabbing it seem good then sure I guess but overall
Hey they might to a road to bf6 sorta thing
Like with what they did with bf5
I have a community server up if anyone wants to
which one?
The tiger skin


I’ll check



