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anything tbh
If u wanna try hard guns run on conquest maps long range with fov 75 mp40
I like 3x scope on the 1906
scope is very much an option although you’re going to slow the reload down a bit
It's a little more middy than the ZH imho
1906 just shoots faster, better for securing kill
and i think it has less vrec
everything else zh wins
if youre range abusing, imo 1906 is better
zh is slightly worse at range, but better up close
1906 has better overall accuracy i think
both dont have hrec, so its just vrec
accuracy for anything that fires single shots isn’t really a thing in bfv since there isn’t rng spread
if you spam at absolute max rof then it’s going to go a little off target but generally with those the ‘accuracy’ stat is pretty meaningless
Never realized that
thought of it that way
just take a brief pause between shots and even at long range you’re not going to have any issues since it resets
Is it better to get BFV on steam or origin?
Better to get bf4
😏
But how about as in "bullet.goes exactly where my scope.says accuracy"
depends on range considering bullet drop
steam version will just open it in the origin launcher from what i understand
but with these velocities you really just have to aim towards the upper body and youll land most shots
other than pricing there’s not really any difference, just preference which launcher you want to use
No diffrence unless you want the steam overlay
Either way it will also launch origin
Do you happen to have a very current link to that sym website? I can't seem to find an updated one lately for some reason
Ok must've been looking in the wrong place then thx
Mentioned earlier think i will get this bf 1 & v bundle on steam. $22
The games are still real active much?
bfv has plenty of players. bf1 you should be able to find a decent number of matches as well, although basically only on the base game maps for the most part
They both have like campaign modes right?
Seems like a ton of german servers on bf1 these days, I usually only find a handful of NA ones
Ping still pretty decent
Not worth buying just for campaign
@raw temple
Campaign on bf1 is incredibly short
huh question, how do I remove the selected emblem in bf5 ? because it looks ass on weapons
Just downloaded BFV on steam and when I open it, it just stays on the loading screen?
did they really forget or not bother adding a way to select no emblem ?
you have to press a button
it’ll say on screen “press [key] to continue”
Is bf3 still an active game?
if you consider 400 players not dead game then yes
@brave coral still nothing, black screen and the loading V in the top right corner
I now relize that the M1 Garand is actually good and what I said about it earlier was wrong
huh, try just shutting the game and trying again
if it’s your first time playing it might have hit some random issues
I now realize that bf1 and bf5 have the exact same gameplay issues or at least similar ones and that people just love hating the newest things
@brave coral tried that, still not working
Top 5 in the game for sure...
i just got bf4
lol
I...can’t...do...it...anymore
move on
It’s the only challenge I have left
for the Support yes?
What crossbow
Think about it it reloads slow has so little ammo and does like no damage it’s completely useless
The crossbow launcher
Heres operations for you
1st attack (doesn’t make it all the way through but gets to the last objective(
2nd attack (takes 1 sector and wins
3rd attack ()
I launched bfv and it's a white screen and it says frostbite
What do u all think of the wel gun
Is that a glitch or something
Any good?
It good
Hate the sightd
Makes it feel like extra long range but its short rangr
Make u wanna aim long
Or it jus me
dude just go “ok so this is an smg” and you’re sorted
@coral fiber
rate my kill
Hey I was in that match
Indeed so was dr

Kamikaze 19 do be out meaning I’m closer to another clip of me kamikazing you I believe 
does seriously no one host carrier assault anymore? i missed out on a good game mode damn
why did i have to miss the night owl bundle the other week, now that i’ve discovered this skin combo
does anyone host carrier assault on bf4 anymore?
That looks poggers
You always request when I'm busy with other enemies lmao
may be true tbh in other games 
quite nice but I recommend shooting when you have a clear shot, also switch to 1st person for a better way to aim. overall solid kill 7/10
I can't dogfight in 1st person
Only time I switch to 1st person it's because I have rockets
you most likely see me dogfight in 3rd person lol
America sucks in this game
more like your teammates suck ass
or you
You ever had that feeling that you suck at the game then manage to single handedly go on a killing spree? I've had those moments
Lmao today I destroyed the enemy tank division with a type 97 all by myself
Destroyed like 5 tanks in a row
uh Gravina did you see that clip of me blowing up a jeep on a Type 97?
https://streamable.com/og482p @sour stratus nothing really exciting tho
easy there, calm down and recollect yourself
shotguns in 5 make 4's shotguns look like nothing lol
what bomb was that?
842lb
becuase you just killed 4 of them
Big boi
chonker bomb
The heavier that I can carry on that zero
you only get one right?
hmm, what lane must I go for it?
i think its on the left iirc
No matter what lane you pick, at the end, go for the wing upgrade
how come?
Because the Pacific planes are fucking garbage trucks
Thanky lad 
Spitfire and 109 feel better
hello guys,sorry my english is a shit.
definitely

Shotguns aren't that powerful
yes
shotguns are rarely used
IM PLAYING TDM ON. ZAVOD
Eh shotguns are fine now that I’ve given a chance
THEY ARE DEFINITELY USED
nah
An smg can outgun it if the guy misses atleast one shell
can confirm
also a shotguns weakness is distance
but i unlocked the ace 23 cqb
what does that have to do with shotguns?
i know zavod from phantom forces on roblox
pf is basically bf 3 and bf4 on roblox
I almost never see a shotgun player, they are very rare and must be preserved
Same
WAHT FUCKING SERVERS ARE YOU GUYS PLAYING On
Op. Locker too
Jay caps please
But I believe the map is quite different with the BF4 version.
Do you guys think bf 2021 will be modern?
I don't play BF4 anymore lol
hopefully
Honestly, I would rather have ‘nam, baby
I want to see it it painted, painted black
I just want to circle saigon in a huey and mow down VC while listening to fortunate son on repeat on spotify
That would be pure sex
Listening to sabaton while playing bf5 lol
Vietnam would be limiting
its limited weaponry between 2 set sides in 1 set environment
How exactly is that limiting?
oh man I love me some war crimes
i don't want to have the option of 1: jungle, 2: jungle, 3: jungle
Limited to 2 sides fighting on the same type of scenario: jungle
exaclty
BF4 has modern weaponry which is very diverse, sorta,
and huge environments
cause it's a world war
BF4 got boring for me
I meant in a broader sense, not just ‘nam but the whole cold war
not just some farmors vs the green bois
yeah that would be cool
but cod's already done that
gunplay is lame and the vehicle hoarders are even worse in that game
and it might be a little sneeky to 🕵️ steal it
Cod has done it, very poorly (in typical cod fashion)
lol
cod was doing cold war not vietnam
I see how it is dr
there was vietnam in the campaign

oh frick sorry for ping
well that was partial
Indeed
What do you guys want from bf2021, random deviation or random recoil?
Well I am gotta be somewhere 
I mean, its gonna be either one of them or both, thats just how games are balanced
I am the man
BFV gunplay is kinda easy tho, bf1 guns actually took time to master
Bf5 does take time to properly learn too
recoil is far better than spread for actually making sense and playing well
If I have to rely on rng I play tf2
bf2021 should just be bf4 but called bf4.1 where they just remove shotguns
Exactly Jay
Noodles...
@prime pine not nearly as much as bf1
you can't just remove shotguns 
bfv is “there’s multiple ways of dealing with recoil” bf1 is “lol you have to use this gun exactly like this otherwise your shots just disappear completely”
Looking for 2 or 3 to play bf5 with. Just got it recently and none of my friends have it. I revive as medic and resupply as support. I ptfo and I have a mic.
jets in 4 weren't useful
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Bf5 is just generally way better than bf1's as you're not fucked as much by the suppression spread system
@brave coral what are these “ways” other than recoil control?
specs
Stances
@prime pine on this i agree, supression can go fuck itself
i meant more as in you can burst/tap fire or you can actually manually control the recoil
Going crouched on bf5 will decrease your recoil by a fair margin
@prime pine in a high skill environment stances are irrelevant, as everyone is sliding, jumping or standing. Stances affect recoil only when crouched or prone.
whereas with bf1 spread some guns you have to wait like half a second before firing again, some you have to just keep firing and wait for spread to reduce etc
Is that the case even for sniping btw? Or is the difference miniscule
Don't need to pingme all the time
I could literally make a video with the different stances in place
it does reduce recoil when sniping i think but it doesn’t really have any effect
Sorry, I don’t know proper discord etiquette, I dont use it that much
calm down everyone lets just go back to battlefield 1942
Everyone is sliding yes but that won't stop someone from using their stances
But nobody does because the cons far outweigh the benefits
yeah stances do have a decent recoil reduction
it’s typically around a 33% reduction i believe? varies from gun to gun though i think
*0.6 while prone
Yo
Cant remember the value for crouched
HW ABOUT WE JUST
I can confirm that the higher level people do crouch for better recoil reduction
use the saiga 12k
I've seen it many times
I will believe it when I see it, but I’m on console. Maybe it’s a PC thing
i often crouch to control recoil a bit on ps4
as someone on console along with @prime pine who is a fellow xbox player, i see it quite a bit
why use any other gun
Hola
It might be a botched slide or trying to not get shot by changing stances, but again, I highly doubt it’s to reduce recoil
you do you then lol
it really does
Fair enough
Anyway, I think a good idea would be to use both recoil and random deviation for balancing, kinda like BfV already does
it's not by a huge margin, but it definitely helps when you don't want to pace shots as long
But more random deviation for no skill, bigmag high ROF magdumper like the suomis
The spread into recoil isn't fully explained, it explains inconsistency with recoil control when you've read into it.
Its a submachine gun they already kick hard enough
I don’t understand how DICE thought anyone was going to use anything other than the ZK, tommy or suomi for medic
I use the mp40
Me too
I use the gun
Theyre pretty simple to pick if you want to go medic
i vibe withe the mp40 and mp34 just fine, honestly all of the smgs feel quite useable (although some easier than others of course)
Besides there are two other great subbies, the grease gun and type 2 a
Greaser is fun but shit at range
type 100 is a ton of fun to try
Type 2a is a joke, literally no reason not to use a shotty at that point
thompson 20 mag is very nice for small engagements
Hard agree for type100
if you can manage it so you only fight one or two people at a time it’s great
just have to be wary of that quickly draining ammo count
Type 2, grease gun, suomi, Thompson and the fast bolt zk 383 are your best picks really.
That was exactly my point, lower ROF smgs are just outclassed
I wouldnt necessarily say outclassed but more overshadowed
they’re still perfectly viable and generally a better pick if you’re fighting at like 20-30m rather than sub 20
WHO HAS SUMMONED ME?
I dont play medic a lot anyways
Is there a notable difference between the two?
What two
Overshadowed/ outclassed
Eh
slow firing SMGs aren’t really used, as if you wanted a weapon for medium range you would just use a rifle or lmg
For 20-30 meters you can get a handy dandy stg 1-5, an stg or the jungle carbine
@uneven hollow noice
7/10
oh yeah i forgot about the assault rifles you can equip on medic
you mean carbines?
Ok, the bigmag bois can still handle themselves at that range if you have those stupid ww2 holo sights equipped
For further ranges you can get a jungle carbine- best sniper rifle in the game
honestly i'd rather take my chances with the mp34
do bayonets suck in 5?
plus it's got a bayonet
The bayonets arent too bad
👍
The bayonets arent too bad
I would concede to the mp34 if I didn’t have to choose between shit capacity and shit firerate
eh, they do have their problems and stick you on the terrain a bit, but they're still satisfying
its all in the hitreg and if its being funky or not
The MAB is a contender here, but after the TTK fuckup Nr. 2 I’m not sure
Just not feeling it
Just not feeling it
eh they don't feel as satisfying as 1's bayonets plus they're also inconsistent as the regular melee
After playing tf2 I never rely on melee in any game
the combat medic faster melee is honestly the only reason why i play medic. load up on smokes, take my melee pick of the day and the mp34 bayonet, and just vibe. the bullets are backup, don't need em all that often. melee is inconsistent, but it does not stop the vibe
God that game's melee is so inconsistence
Fair enough but we are talking weapon balance and meta here
Bruh you haven’t seen BF4 have you
thats a fair ass point
Atleast your teammates don't eat the damage you do
i cant complain about any games melee hitreg after playing 4
was just going off on both a medic and melee tangent, don't mind me lol
pure garbo
Counter knife is so goddamn op and the hitreg is disgusting
Because the netcode in that game isn't great
did BF5 servers start lagging recently?
oh yeah I decided to run it because I live for the melees, running with the mp28 and the Coupe Coupe slicing people like I had the Commando perk from mw2 lol
It was garbage but they supposedly fixed it
i feel like i get killed farther behind cover than i used to
Even then still bad
اكو عرب بطيارة
Ya bayonets suck
The crossbow launcher sucks here’s why it has slow reload, 2 shots until you are out and 1 at a time, only for support which usually has fast shooting guns, does like 0 damage and is supposed to be used to finish of enemies dispute taking like at least 2 seconds to even FIRE and you will be dead by then, it is a bonus so you waste a slot where you could put an actually useful one, it DOESN’T EVEN HAVE AN IMPACT VERSION meaning when you shoot the grenade it could bounce off them and kill you, it’s meant to kill either tanks or infantry but it bounces off both and doesn’t blow up on impact plus it does 50 damage to a person so to a tank or a siege weapon it’s not going anything, and finally the only challenge that you have to use it for makes you kill PEOPLE with it despite being used for primarily vehicles or mounted guns. I conclusion this gun sucks and I would smile if someone killed me with it knowing I probably helped them complete this challenge because that’s the only time you are going to use it
I'm not reading that
sorry mate, let's keep it to english only here
I'm not reading that lol
For 5 or 1?
5
Oh
1 for an experience
it's good, recommended for close quarters maps
I still don't know how you haven't completed it lmao 
@solid hinge literally it just launches a standard grenade. use it in an enclosed space like you would with a regular grenade for decent effect
it's so damn easy
Nope
we didn’t need an essay about how you can’t get a kill with it
It’s simply not
I didn’t need you to read and respond to it
it’s literally a just a drag launcher my guy it simply is
then you could have left that in the notes 
It’s in notes
then why make an essay about it? 
To see if someone could help me with it
its not an essay
But ur not doing that remember
its a wall of text
Just play fort devaux or whatever it was called
Well I suppose I shall suffer longer until I’m done
And spam that bitch against the walls so it triggers the fuse earlier
this guy 
You see, he can't kill therefore that's not helpful
lul
It's entirely our fault
Find an infantry chokepoint on any map and spam it
That’s literally all you have to do
It’ll stop complaining if you send me a video of you getting at least a 3 person kill streak
Don't need to
^
I hardly play 1 anymore
Lmao almost dropped my phone to my face
no
It did
The crossbow launcher doesn’t even do it’s intended job
It can’t kill siege weapons or tanks
it does, it's basically a grenade launcher
Yeah I’ll just go with that to avoid confusion
It takes so long to shoot
it doesn't
I was in a tunnel in the Italian map and didn’t get a kill with it
Are you sure there were people there
I’m usually the guy that runs in bayonets up and get all the kills first
Not this kinda guy
Yeah I did damage to them but no kill
I recall telling you to damage a player and then finish them off with the Crossbow, have you done that or ignored my advice?
to be the voice of mediation, bf1 isnt teeming with zergers anymore, so thats prob why u arent getting any kills with it tbh
maybe just like... chill the hell out and stop whining about your inability to use a grenade launcher? 
kills with any kinda nade is really just luck and the best way to pull it off is to hit a crowd of enemies who maybe low on health
I can’t because it takes so long
it takes so long
sounds like laziness
yeah, crowded spaces or small rooms where it’s unavoidable is the best bet
Maybe just give at least one person advice in stead of roasting people that can’t do the things you can
@solid hinge A step by step guide for all my special people out there. 1.) go to the server browser; 2.) find breakthrough on fort devaux (preferably attacking side); 3.) wait for the fighting to slow down and for the chokepoints to form; 4.) equip your launcher and spawn; 5.) find previously mentioned chokepoint; 6.) drop an ammo box and aim that baby against a wall next to a cluster of enemies; 7.) let her rip; 8.) Profit 11!!1!1!1!1
Omfg I feel like a weight has been taken off me thank you
what i just said counters 6, he prob wont be finding clusters of enemies
give me advice instead of roasting me
wow it's alsmot like we haven't been doing that :high:
you've said this so many times
k
I’d roast myself for my kamikazes 
I guess I should be making gaming guides
that's sad
Truly is
on a map like de vaux there’ll be clusters just by nature of the map being very enclosed
last i played with was like summer, there was only 2 servers, one half full and one with a couple people, i still doubt it heavily
can't even do a simple challenge but has the time to bitch and moan about it, it didn't take me long to complete it lol
game just too dead and empty
oh true if it’s not a full server then yeah
its mostly just recons camping now
ive never been killed by the arty mortar truck somehow
Who in the goddamn hell thought that fucking trash was a good idea
Maybe you got so psychologically damaged by it, your brain developed a defensive mechanism to forget about it
arty truck is really good at rushing objectives or the polar opposite
its speed makes it really dependable
and its cannon too
only problem is that people use it to camp behind the sand dunes on sinai
Am I alone in thinking balance and immersion are not exclusive?
which is where my assault truck with at specs comes in 😈
We can have both
i mean immersion is subjective
But also not, we can identify a miriad of factors that play into it
some people think it means “i feel like i’m in my perceived version of [conflict] so everything has to be how i want it”
personally it’s just “do i feel engaged with the gameplay and focused on what i’m doing and what’s going on” tbh
the latter is the proper immershun
do u say latter or former lol for the second option
but apparently it doesn’t matter what’s going on, redditors see one pixel of a japanese lady and anything else disappears
Both are degrees of immershun
former = first, latter = last
ah
That anime waifu does bring me out of it though
i think the first results in the opposite of immershun
cause what people want differs vastly from person to person, and going in preconceived about what u want prevents u from enjoying smth for what it is resulting in you simply not enjoying anything
hence all the bfv haters
Just like the bright colors on outfits, female screams, guns that have five different set parts equipped
enjoy smth for what it is and not what you wanted cause thats just entitled tbh
and also for what it is rather than what it used to be
For clarity, does your statement mean criticizing = entitlement?
some people will tell random new/potential players that bfv is terrible now because... they changed something a year ago?
that kinda gatekeeping is what prevents player counts across all games from being bigger than they could be
it definitely has good hipfire
i wonder what people will think of the ttk of bf6. if it isn't that of bfv, will people complain? 🙂
yeah it’s a dumb way of thinking tbh
yk they will jer
people complain about everything
thats what this community does
even if its the exact ttk that they want, they will complain about ttk
bfv is going to be amazing once bf6 releases and there’s some minor thing people don’t like
I think both slow and fast TTK can work, depends on how the game plays
never will have had any petty complaints from the community or anything
watch them add hair customisation and reddit implodes 
I liked BF1 launch TTK, I also loved Bf Hardline
i didnt around to play it
Dont start
i think it was a good game but i don’t think it was a good battlefield title
There is no other experience quite like seeing SWAT police officers drive-by gangbangers with M320 grenade launchers while “sound of da police” is playing
when u just tryna rob a bank and the swat pulls a drive by
it probably would have been better received if it wasn’t associated with battlefield by name
this
why would bf5 be bf6 though
they would have to name it a number
Whether it was called battlefield or not, it was a great game
which would probably have to be 5
@proven charm no i meant if it wasn’t called battlefield at all
fun campaign too
My favorite first person shooter
oh, right
it shouldve been a separate game
yeah it should've been
a diff franchise
a cops and robbers series would've been dope
i’ve definitely said this before, probably with you present, but i think it would be so good to have some tvs playing hardline cutscenes in the background of the bf6 campaign
yeah i think you mentioned that once
since it’s a tv show right?
that would be a nice little nod to the game
kinda like how max payne 2 has a tv show showcasing events of max payne one or the night springs in alan wake 😮
?
ik we’ve sort of moved on from the immershun discusshun but this is kinda how i like to think of it
Tf
whats yall gun wishlist for the next game
if i’m basically only aware of what’s going on in the red square, then i would consider myself ‘completely immersed’ (with the exception of someone appearing next to me)
i want the h&k holy trinity in next game
if i’m not that engaged i’m probably more aware of the shit around the tv
mp5, ump45, and g36c
i’m not massively bothered about specific guns tbh, i’m more concerned with how they work customisation
g36c, mp5k, spas-12, f2000
What you described is just engagement
should be a way to collapse stocks converting mp5 to mp5k
i think a good gunsmith system is better than any specific weapons
bf6 gunsmith
We havent seen a G3 for a while
gun customization would be dope
Gunsmith is a lot of bloat
would dice do it tho
it’s better than bf4 attachments where you had like 2 options filled out with identical copies for most slots
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MWs gunsmith but lite
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Or, if its a vietnam setting, do BFV system
Where customization that affects the weapon is not visble
vietnam setting
So they dont have to do imaginary foregrips and shit
bfv had a nice system, they just didnt have a lot of customization options that really altered the gun
yeah.
something to do cod modern warfare but better
Better not have said bfv gun cosmetics where said stock changes 
thats too arcady you know
Rather odd that was tbh
yeah bfv’s makes sense for a system where you can’t do stuff that has attachments bc guns were not modular at all really
closest thing to tacticool in game which is why i use it
ye it does look kinda dope
but also wouldn’t work without changing the inner mechanics
theres a magic bullet dispenser in the stock
Would’ve been pog to have every kind of customization for said cosmetics guns like scopes stock and so on
but that’s kind of a key immersion argument for some reason - apparently someone having a reasonable-looking gun that technically wouldn’t work is game-ruining to some people
i wish it was like 4 where every skin was on every gun but i can see why they would go against that
who didn’t have any idea about it until they saw a random reddit post about it
cuz mtx
For me, gun customization is dependent on the setting, whether we have an MWesque gunsmith or BFV spec system
Weapon balance is a big one for me
And the customization will tie into that
yeah if it’s after like... idk cold war era-ish then attachments make sense
basically any setting they would do now should be fine to have attachments
we dont need mw levels of gunsmith, then we would just get metas
thanky lad
i just want it to the point where we can make diff variants of a gun from a platform
like ak platform
Thats why i emphasized balance
idk the multiplayer doesn’t really have meta builds, it’s mostly just warzone since it’s more competitive and you have the multiple primary loadouts
The multiplayer definitely has meta builds my friend
i played cod mw and i noticed i would be shit against others until i switched to the meta
They spent 18 months developing bf5
obviously some guns are going to be more popular, and you have certain things that people will lean towards like ADS speed
I like ads speed
A slower firing mg is as dangerous as a faster firing one
I'm a run n gunner
Range increases (barrels, monolith) + ADS time reduct (no stock, tac, stippled)
ads while running and gunning?
Bigmag too
i mean obviously meta guns but you can basically use any build for said meta gun and do well enough that any differences would be negligible/accounted for by the random nature of a multiplayer match
I find slower shooting smgs r better than faster in head on collisions
Beside few exceptions
Suomi
Tommy
Type 99
DrXmas I disgagree
the fast smgs are basically just shotguns only with way less spread
so u gotta stay on target or ur ded
Its bigmag + range + ADS speed all day, every day
look at mw
but it’s also CoD where you basically have one engagement style
I meant the attachment system
big mag should be slower ads for balance purposes
and less range
in a battlefield game
and yeah it definitely doesn’t have to be identical to MW, just the kind of “most stuff has both benefits and downsides”
.
Big map sniper
some extended mags are fine but with downsides and not really to the extent/capacity of MW
20 odd bullets is a big cuck
Thats why you get balance
for most things mag size isn’t really a balancing factor though?
Mag size = ease of use
when u got 60 round ars tho
obviously exceptions
but thats just lmgs with big mags
Plus multiman engagements
but there’s no statistical advantage to it, and you can easily implement downsides to using it
eg slower sprint-to-fire, slower reloads and ADS
as long as it isnt ridiculous levels of bullet count its fine
Ease of use is tricky, but its the reason why everyone and their mother runs suomis and tommies with the 50 rounders
things which can be balanced out with other attachments, but then you’re having to use it for that rather than more appealing stats
it isn’t that common
not to the extent you’re suggesting
50 round tommy is fine
u can get 2-3 kills per mag with almost any gun
nice kill lad, I like how you surprised that Corsair by diving behind it also you took my advice which I'm grateful for 9/10
But the “ease” part is why this is relevant
gun control is pretty easy period, if someone cant use a gun then they just soonk
once again i think this is also fixating on existing stuff in a hypothetical discussion
Bf4 requires skill n finesse
they could simply... not add particular mag upgrades
Why, then, almost nobody uses the high rof specs on the tommy and suomi?
Much superior statistically in a 1v1
But not very practical
because faster RoF is harder to control and you’re also locked into one of two options in bfv’s system
God forbid we had 50 rounder 900 rof tommyguns
Nty
But RoF doesn’t actually add recoil
do you want something that makes the gun function in a way that you may not want or do you take something where the gun performs identically to how it was before the upgrade but with 2.5x the bullets
Just speeds it up
it doesn’t add recoil but to say there’s no difference is stupid
ik this is hypothetical but for most guns, faster rof spec shouldnt be a thing unless its a feature on the real gun its based on
I would actually argue it’s easier to control horizontal recoil firing at higher ROF
So yes
It would be stupid
The zk fr upgrade makes it trash
yeah i don’t think MW has any other than when you change the calibre the gun fires or something
But also, a practical example
cold war on the other hand has a very odd gunsmith from what i’ve seen
you change the barrel and it changes something entirely unrelated to the barrel
eg the RoF... on a bolt action rifle
That was in the same clip as the other clip I showed from kamikaze s2 8 @wheat willow

what’s up with that 
Cold war is just trash in general
i like that bfv didn't make silencers have a damage penalty. it's such a stupid notion
Aka @wheat willow that clip was preordered
yeah a lot of it does seem like a step down
I can’t think of a single aspect of the game I like
yeah i understand why there are certain things that games typically do with suppressors, but it’s still kind annoying
But back to the magazine attachments
silencers do remove dmg indication so there should be some downside
it’s just bc irl they’re basically a direct upgrade to a gun in a lot of cases
My argument is it’s a bad idea cause balance
i mean i’m not saying give every AR 60 rounds and no downsides
Either they are balanced in a way they outclass not having the attachment
some silencers in mw add damage
but in some cases it’s fine
Or balanced in such a way they become redundant
i think it’s more they add damage range
yea that
which makes sense bc they’d be moving faster at the same point so they hit with more energy
as long as every gun is viable like they are in 5, i think balance will just find itself
in a no metas kidna way
regardless of attachments and their spec changes
yeah there’s always going to be some guns that aren’t that popular and some that a lot of people use but that’s not really an issue
Every gun is viable in a sense that “it will kill”, but certain weapons simply outclass others
it’s if you’re at a clear disadvantage for not using certain guns that it becomes an issue
i can do good with any gun in battlefield
Which, I don’t think is avoidable, dont get me wrong
its just the type of gun u use and the type of engagement ur in
eg the warzone metas where they can’t actually balance anything properly so every season there’s a ridiculously broken loadout
I’m prepared to be judged for this
Wtf is a bipod and how do I deploy it?
if u have a sniper and face an smg user in close range, then ofc
But by how much, is the question
bipod is the gun legs
in bf1 and bfv they automatically deploy on nearby surfaces/when you’re prone
Ohhh
Hold crouch
i like refering to bipods as gun legs
I know how to prone I just didn’t know it was called proning
Thats why you play the singleplayer, people
I’ve seen bipods before I just didn’t know that’s what they were
Do they work on windows?
If it’s broken, then yes
yes any surface from kinda mid thigh to chest height they should be able to deploy on
Ok got it
and yeah window gotta be smashed obviously
Shoot them out or hit them
Btw is it true that there are some melee weapons that don’t have a kill animation when used?
Like you just hit them
i will say that sometimes it’s a little janky on destroyed cover because there can sometimes be a slight desync from what you see and what the server sees as a flat surface
Don’t think so
thats more likely a bug
Melee animations are contextual
Oh ok
Depending on where the enemies and you are
you can kill without a takedown but i don’t think there’s any that don’t have a takedown ability at all
I use the pine cone on a stick for my assault and it dominates
Sometimes it will kill them with a takedown, sometimes it will just slash or hit them and kill them without
Sure
...yeah...
BF 2021: Women or nah?
Nope
No
yes
Dont say “dont care”
Unless it’s modern
Not a valid answer
Then maybe
Maybe in the campaign when the bad guy does the whole killing everyone
i mean assuming it’s modern then there’s literally no reason not to other than “i don’t like that it reminds me of my inability to interact with women” 
And then the bad guy executes a bunch of woman as well as men
Maybe just woman 😳
oh lordt
Then the SJWs get mad
and tbh i like that they’re in bfv even though i know technically it’s not right because it doesn’t affect my enjoyment at all and also i get to watch redditors cry about it 
certified bruh moment
And say Dice is sexist
I mean, you can go do “the soderlund” and call everyone incels, but frontline combat troops are rarely women, even today
Ngl the flamethrower in BFV seems a lot more fun to use
who cares whats realistic
it gaem
Despite the one in BF1 having actually realistic shit
add women
and add dab emotes
I do love reloading my flamethrower
so i can dab on the best squad screen
BF1 had its bruh moments too, like the black germans
What?
bfv flamethrower used to be more fun when it yeeted people into the air 
You don’t reload a flamethrower
rip in peace, gone but not forgotten, cruelly taken from us
it’s literally just for balance stuff
Do you reload a fucking FLAMETHROWER in BFV
not a female, so obviously fake, angra
WHAT THE FUCK BRO

I hate BFV now
Nice one
you change the filter thingy, you dont reload the actual flamethrower
We wuz obergruppenfuhrers n shiiet
At least in BF1 black Germans could have come from German Africa
Pretty shitty edits tbh 
In 5 there isn’t an excuse
there's north africa campaign
I mean weren’t there some black Germans in ww2 iirc
dice: black germans
me: yes
BFV sucks ass ngl I mean it’s just the wrong kind of “Feeling the war”
hmm
i disagree, sieg
nah 5 is best game yet
Germany kinda got desperate
it's feeling more like ww2 than bf1 atleast does xD
In BF1 you feel like you are in chaos but you don’t really feel the pain
By that point they were just in Europe
I mean I made said black and Indian German because I feel like it’s just right 
@solid hinge abso-fucking-loutley disagree, but fair nuff
bfv > bf1
Ahahah
you can skip the process in like 3 seconds
w h a t
BF1 is fun I have actual proof on why I dislike BFV
It was fun
you died a lot to random shit that wasn’t at all controllable
what proof?
Which is not the case in BFV?
It’s because you FEEL THE WAR
idc about feeling the war or immersion
You feel like you could die at any second
feeling is subjective
you can feel liek you could die in any second in any bf tbh
To get out of that shit game
hii
hello
i mean yes to an extent but not as much as bf1. you don’t have random frenchies ketted out with a club running around at 20mph and a ww1 ac-130 raining cannons on you
If I stab you I’m pretty sure you will feel the contact fairly similar to me
obviously there’s always going to be stuff that you die to that’s out of your control but with bfv you typically have a chance of at least avoiding the death or prolonging it
bitching about the ttk in late 2020 with bfv is so ignorant of the features bfv has to turn it into the game you want
“Random frenchese” because I know every enemy in BFV personally
BFV literally killed its gunplay
it was a joke about the trench raider
bf1 didn’t have that issue bc there isn’t any gunplay to speak of 
and thats popular opinion
No I mean
I understand that why not just kill them?
it’s fine now
because they’ve got like 700 health
Not the best, its subjective. The easiest
Git gud
-my people
but at times they completely unbalanced it
not in a good way
the most intuitive
Also just melee elite classes
bf1 guns don't fire where the crosshair is aiming at due the random bullet deviation, battle pickups like the fucking knight armor or trench raider get bonus HP making them extra spongey etc
is there a good way 
bf1's ttk is way higher than bfv's
Just git gud
due all the shitty mechanics in there
And a neutral way 
Also age is a thing
getting good will fix shitty mechanics
ah yis
The game is a bit older
Bayonet for the knight armor (I do agree the suits were kinda stupid tho). As for the random deviation thing... let me ask you.
guys Battlefield Hardline is the best game
i can't get gud with the shitty rng mechanics compared to bfv, where if i aim at someone's head he'll die. bf1 has terrible gunplay. you can't improve with it, you'll hit the skill ceiling way faster compared to bfv
What do you think of BF4s gunplay?
the game being older doesn’t change the fact that heavy random spread is bs 
No dark souls 1 is
maybe you should git gut in bfv? ;3
i hated both games gunplay
I’m joking
Bf5 made so many quality of life changes and fuck me man its hard going back to the other games.
or are you also joking and I’m dum
bf4 i basically know suppression and an attachment system that’s two options and then some copy-paste reskins
I promise you that you never personally met mr 1800s so age matters a lot and gameplay is older in older games
who is mr 1800s?
One big thing about bf5 i enjoy so much is the fact that you can fine tune your aiming and edit your fov
I mean the 1800s like you never lived there
wtf
The 1800s were in the past
Hard disagree on the skill ceiling thing in BfV
bf1 wasn’t actually made in the first world war, you realise?

Its way lower, because of how easy it is to control it
i mean ik even that’s too late for the 1800s before anyone says anything
I mean age is important to understand
And the rng thing is actually kinda bullshit
also if you think weapons took more than 1 hit in the EARLY 1900s in real life (1800 wtf?) then you're fool.
I know BF1 isn’t from the 1800s bruv
but age with video games is normally related to what’s possible with technological advancements

gunplay mechanics has nothing to do with it
Because random devaiton increases with consecutive shots and resets in a short time period
BATTLEFIELD 1=old
1800s=old
kolibri
IT WAS AN EXAMPLE TO RESEMBLE OLD THINGS
it made no sense
Poggers right @coral fiber
like yeah i’d expect bf1942 to have kinda odd gunplay because it’s like 3 months younger than me
I it made no sense your mom
because it was a fairly early fps
Just shut up please
What the fuck even.
At least we can agree on 1 thing
i genuinely don’t understand what you’re talking about though
it not convinced that you are either 
So in essence, the gun skill in Bf1 consists of timing your shots or bursts for the range and weapon you are engaging in the current situation + plus some recoil control
Nail gun is the best fucking weapon in any video game of all time
snappy the crocodile

BfV gunskill is just... recoil
cricket bat
you're from 2002?
Nail gun?
What bout fist
No
Or burnt plank
It’s the nail gun
Fg42 baby
Broken bottlr
ye i’m like a few months older than battlefield 
handgun from bfv
MP40
complete with sickening empty reloads
Railgun
More like Char 2C
Bf5 handgun better than any wep in any game
haha, 6 months more and you were a battlefield baby!
Or mw2 model 1887
or maybe you are due the same year as battlefield 🤔
I was born 15,172 years before battlefield
needs to be a role tbh. battlefield babies. just for veterans of the series ;D
Chainsaw
I needs to be a role tbh. battlefield babies. just for veterans of the series ;D your mom
Anyone else notice how in Cod, western weapons seem much better than Russian Weapons?
Kamikaze role 
only you'd have that one though 😭
I wonder why
Because you keep spamming the django unchained dicaprio emoji?

