With the high ROF it is noticeable however
#battlefield-legacy-titles
viscid crater
I used to think the 2x sight was stupid but it shreds
raw orbit
i dont feel any recoil on the bar (or anything) but i heard you saying you went with the hipfire specs so maybe thats why
viscid crater
I think 20 rounds isnt enough
solid hinge
it is dumbass
viscid crater
It gets depleted so quickly
raw orbit
yea 20 rounds is balanced
solid hinge
goddamn dumb ppl
raw orbit
its like a versatile madsen
at the cost of ammo
at least you dont have that huge mag covering half your screen
polar totem
I’ve tried out the Type 97 LMG in the practice range and I cannot stand it
viscid crater
But fuck support class anyways
polar totem
Yes, but if you go to the practice range you can try it early
prime pine
Why dont you like it
raw orbit
huh#
polar totem
Big mag on the side
stoic breach
20 round BAR would be nice if its maximum damage wasnt the same as the Madsen's minimum damage
raw orbit
japanese and their funny mags
polar totem
Only gun I find that acceptable on is the bren gun
raw orbit
the madsen only has 1 damage value lul
stoic breach
Yeah
solid hinge
lol
stoic breach
I know
prime pine
Whats so bad about support anyways
raw orbit
i like support
shy badger
bwodie
stoic breach
Thats a problem with class design in general
raw orbit
i played all the classes pretty much equally give or take a few minutes but now i only like the bar madsen and mab so im stuck on medic and support lull
viscid crater
I just dont like support
shy badger
I still remember your promise to livestream churchill gameplay <<
viscid crater
Bf4 you could roll support and any gun iirc
prime pine
FUCK
viscid crater
Same with recon
viscid crater
I like to have either health, or a way to kill tanks
raw orbit
i dont like the universal guns thing
shy badger
😄
raw orbit
bf1 and bf5 much better in that regards
stoic breach
BF1 especially
viscid crater
Support does me no good
raw orbit
yea bf1 was nice
viscid crater
Even though the Lewis is OP as shit
stoic breach
Assault having the rush weapons makes sense
Medic having more ranged weapons makes sense as well
prime pine
Lmgs are my snipey ars
solid hinge
how to get cc
viscid crater
Be better
solid hinge
but your shit
raw orbit
challenges because dice broke cc again 
viscid crater
Lol k
polar totem
Well leveling up is broken and doesn’t give you any, so challenges
solid hinge
cc doesnt work
shy badger
@solid hinge Challenges, level ups, coop
viscid crater
Sucks to suck
shy badger
Oh so you're having the server sync issues
Just wait for a fix
It should come next week
shy badger
True, though it's a pretty game breaking issue right now for new players so I think it's high priority for them
viscid crater
They cared more about ees
And pushing out wake island in a whole five minutes because of 5.2 than pushing the hotfix
So they're still just doing everything wrong lmao
sleek tartan
Yes, we all know that exactly the same guy that's meant to be fixing bugs is the one creating the Easter egg
We all know that's how it works
🤓 😂
viscid crater
That's what is called good intentions, bad judgement
viscid crater
Wut
sturdy osprey
My clip is too big apparently
Looks like the great depression is back but on the battlefield
prime pine
20 mag with the bar is enough for it
sturdy osprey
Well looks like they did a 180 but from a pessimistic view.
Adds chapter 5 everything starts looking up but then ....
Now we have game breaking bugs on top of the outrageous bs
Texture level unlocks and just really dice. Feels ike a ps1 game sometimes.
solid hinge
This is what happens when people think a couple of maps set in the pacific will fix the game
solid hinge
soviet dlc
Soviet dlx now
no
it was never fixed
Pacific just made people forget and look aside the issues
sturdy osprey
Dude if the gun play is complete shit and the game cant even seem to work without having texture issues or guns unlocking at the level requirement. Then no dlc will save this shit.
solid hinge
watch 90% of the people who left because of it come back
sturdy osprey
Thats kinda like putting perfume on a turd and expecting the aroma to go away but instead it gets worse.
And not before leaving again. It's not the lack of content keeping players away rn. It's the way they decided to use the current
sturdy osprey
Yea we can only hope
haughty pawn
and the game keeps crashing like a pro,tyvm dice
solid hinge
battlefield 1
sturdy osprey
Because they added crabs lol
sturdy osprey
Bf1 is still and will always be a masterpiece
sturdy osprey
Dice needs to look in the past before moving to future of whatever the fuck they are trying to accomplish with battlefield V.
I don't know anymore
solid hinge
I'm currently playing bf1
desert flare
I'd just like to point out that none of the SMGs in BF4 ever drop below 11 dmg at range. And usually have ROF above 700 rpm
sturdy osprey
Bf1 is worth it i would pay 60 if i didn't already have that experience with it. Bf1 is just amazing
desert flare
No
solid hinge
whatever
iron ginkgo
BF1 took a whiles to get that way though
desert flare
Play BF4 instead.
solid hinge
no
iron ginkgo
BF1 didn't take as long as BF4, which we were lucky on
sturdy osprey
But bf1 didn't disappoint like bfv did upon release.
solid hinge
i still remember those iw vs bf1 memes
sturdy osprey
(Trailer)
iron ginkgo
I dunno, BF1 was kinda disappointin to me
sturdy osprey
Remember
iron ginkgo
BFV was bought cuz I just love playin the BF series
solid hinge
i enjoy bfv
raw orbit
yo whyt is the kami so fast
sturdy osprey
Same
raw orbit
solid hinge
i enjoy all bf games regardless of what situations theyre in
ember plinth
^this
sturdy osprey
But not this gunplay sorry
solid hinge
my first game was 1943 i only played rhe demo
stoic breach
If 1942 had less weapon spread, the gunplay would be superior
ember plinth
mine was BC2
solid hinge
i played bc2 but at a friends house, wish i bought it
ember plinth
i know about 1942 back in 2016
stoic breach
Actually wait, low-spread 1942 gunplay does exist
solid hinge
but i didnt becayse bf3 was released soon after
iron ginkgo
1943 wasn't bad, Wake Island experience for the consoles
sturdy osprey
Bf1 still is fun at least the playerbase for bf1 will increase
desert flare
solid hinge
bf4's playerbase increased a lot
desert flare
I bet
ember plinth
back when i played BFBC2 i thought it was new COD
solid hinge
but im tired of playing it so im going to download bf1
desert flare
I mean look at the damage values of the guns in BF4
stoic breach
Yeah, BF1 is still great, it just needs some changes
sturdy osprey
Yea because people are tired of dices bullshit
raw orbit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571429073671421981/655781450402234382/unknown.png storm feeling like bf1 
desert flare
There arnt smgs in that game that do only 8 dmg in 60m
sturdy osprey
Don't add extra shit if the current still isn't fixed
sturdy osprey
Yea
raw orbit
i mean i loved the frommer stop
stoic breach
Yet still people love pacific somehow
raw orbit
it was
it reallyt did to 8dmg at range but it was a fucking beast close up
something not true of anything in 5.2
sturdy osprey
But studders or Whatever you call it at least for me on console
stoic breach
Frommer Stop Auto was just a worse Automatico, but it was more fun cause it looked stupid to get kills with
sturdy osprey
About every 10 mins
stoic breach
Yeah, it was worse but more fun, still definitely lethal though
desert flare
Pacific maps are fun
ember plinth
@stoic breach i had a feeling that people really likes Pacific because they're underrated theatre in WW2, regardless if it's on BF or any other games
raw orbit
idk the frommer stop felt like it had the lowest ttk in the game up close lul i dont have any stats though so who knows
a true minmax gun
sturdy osprey
But you know i would take that all day instead of 5.2
stoic breach
I mean, people like Pacific cause it looks like WW2
raw orbit
one that really did require you to thinka bout your engagements
stoic breach
Frommer Stop Auto was 900rpm 4BTK
Automatico and M1912 were the same
Frommer Stop Auto has terrible ADS and only a 16 round mag
raw orbit
Ads
i laugh at you
stoic breach
M1912 at least has good ADS and the ability to reload-cancel
raw orbit
obrez + frommer stop i never ads'd 
stoic breach
Hipfire can just be done with Automatico Trench still
Which has 25 round mag
Obrez not needing to ADS is actually minty though
desert flare
I'd gladly buy premium again if it ment I got more than 2 maps and 4 guns in a content drop.
stoic breach
When I played a little bit a few months ago, I ran AL8.35/General Liu and Obrez
Quite nice
stoic breach
I think it has the same hipfire as Automatico Trench
sturdy osprey
If it ment they would never fuck with the year old gun play. I would pay 50.00 a month
stoic breach
I mean, its still really fun to run around with
Cause it probably makes people feel stupid getting killed by it
raw orbit
it feels stupid killing people with it too trust me 
stoic breach
Lul
Yeah, for my high rate of fire SMG, I only ever used the M1912/p.16
Its actually funny though, Frommer Stop compared to SMGs isnt that worthwhile, but compared to other pilot weapons, its really good
sturdy osprey
Well players shouldn't play bfv when they see the numbers drop then maybe they will fix the fuck up. TODAY
stoic breach
Its the same with assault rifles vs SARs in BFV
Assault rifles arent as good as SARs in the same class, but if ARs were medic weapons, they wouldnt need to be as strong as SARs
But I guess now that the MAB is basically medic StG
raw orbit
lmao frommer stop auto did 12 damage past 42.16 meters 
5.2 ttk
icy sluice
Apparently numbers have gone up, and it sure looks like it
stoic breach
Lul
desert flare
Christmas scrubs
sturdy osprey
Well soon lol
solid hinge
play aggressive= get kills with the liberator
icy sluice
And I'm seeing more higher levels too
stoic breach
Yeah, M1912 had way better damage dropoff than the Automatico
sturdy osprey
Santa has to come first 
stoic breach
M1912 was if you wanted to be a chad, Automatico was if you just wanted an easy but sort of mediocre weapon that was good at playing its part of CQB and nothing else
sturdy osprey
Why troll?
raw orbit
ok so the automatico has better everything except reload time compared to the frommer stop auto
gaunt skiff
Guys, Dice just confirmed that the RED ARMY will come to BFV next month
stoic breach
Oh yeah thats right
I forgot about the Frommer Stop Auto reload
That was why it was so fun
sturdy osprey
Ok boomer
raw orbit
M1 
R repeat
stoic breach
😩
sturdy osprey
No one gaf about more content well speaking from the majority of the community. No one wants it they just want the current fixed like was mentioned.
icy sluice
Hot fix is actually tomorrow
shy badger
Nice
sturdy osprey
Really?
raw orbit
i think the game was in a good state in 5.0 where more content would have been like 1 of 2 things the game needed
now thats no longer the case rip
sturdy osprey
That was tears of joy
stoic breach
Prepare for weapons to be slightly less shit
stoic breach
The SAR damage change is nice but 360rpm AgM42 is still poopoo
prime pine
Notes for Update 5.2.2 (hotfix) have been posted. https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/eazn9e/battlefield_v_update_522_hotfix/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
sturdy osprey
💩 😂 wait really this was here the entire time 5.2 emoji
nova tapir
5.2 made me realise I really just want a ww2 sim game
prime pine
Dec 16 is the update date
icy sluice
It's in #game-news
sturdy osprey
Thank you i don't know how you found out before westie posted lol
prime pine
I posted it BEFORE it was posted in game announcements. 
Do not trick me, witch. I was there when the rules were made.
sturdy osprey
Raptor told me before you 
prime pine
I LITERALLY JUST POSTED IT IT 3 MINUTES AGO
Now 4
WTF
THAT TIMING
I LOOKED AT WHEN IT WAS POSTED
solid hinge
wow so cool omg OMG OMG !!!!
sturdy osprey
Tomorrow is the day lady's and gents 😊
solid hinge
for what
sturdy osprey
Finally
prime pine
I can grow a palkia
sturdy osprey
Hotfix
sturdy osprey
To replace the nerf darts with bullets
raw orbit
nerf darts with bbs*
solid hinge
For Type 100 the 4th spec which one is best, recoil buff or barrel bedding
icy sluice
Turns out I can't ping roles on mobile
sturdy osprey
Maybe less hitmarkers
icy sluice
Really?
prime pine
Barely even see them being used
raw orbit
too weak at range imo and ofc no reason to use them close
icy sluice
I've had no problem clearing an objective with 6 people on it with the G43 and destroying a Staghound
solid hinge
Judenscwein
prime pine
Their ROF nerf just hinders them too much
sturdy osprey
Tomorrow Smgs will be kinda ok. But the STG 44 will be damnnn
Lol
4 to 8 btk right?
prime pine
People'll realise how good the stg 1-5 and 44 will be
Yeah. 4-8HKO
Which is massive considering its recoil now
icy sluice
Recoil already was good
raw orbit
one gun meta 
prime pine
People were using the stg for assault anyways
M1907, Stg 1-5 and 44 were the main ones ive been seeing all the time. Even before the update.
raw orbit
i loved the m1907 but since 5.2 its 💩
prime pine
Semi autos just... Will be hardly used
icy sluice
I've actually been using Semi-Autos more
prime pine
Their 3 tap range wasnt even that bad
sturdy osprey
So does this mean tomorrow the FG-42 will be known as an LMG or an SMG
sturdy osprey
Great news then
sturdy osprey
I highly doubt they will increase it's ammo count.
stoic breach
Remember how ARs and LMGs used to be balanced differently
Woo hoo in the recoil design
sturdy osprey
Balance from dices perspective should be a fucking meme 🤣
stoic breach
Probably
The updates could've been a good opportunity for much more interesting weapon design and balance
sturdy osprey
Reads the notes tomorrow fixed an issue with crabs lol
stoic breach
4-8BTK with StG44 that has no recoil just makes it a ghetto LMG
Instead of an actual Assault Rifle
buoyant fossil
Level 5 BAR
solid hinge
BAR sucks tbh
buoyant fossil
still no proficiency assignment
solid hinge
compare it to lewis gun
buoyant fossil
why
sturdy osprey
Yea just not having recoil really screams Christmas noobs lol
stoic breach
Not even christmas noobs
solid hinge
lewis gun much better
buoyant fossil
I still love it
stoic breach
Everyone benefits from lower recoil
solid hinge
its betetr lol
stoic breach
But like, weapon design isn't interesting now
buoyant fossil
Bar is sexier
strong parrot
lewis gun is the biggest fuck you to MMGs
sturdy osprey
But it decreases the skill gap
stoic breach
Everything is low spread magdump switch your brain off
strong parrot
97 round standing ADS lmg that turns into a laser
solid hinge
BAR IS GOOD TBH
stoic breach
Yeah, Lewis Gun makes MMGs obselete
raw orbit
reducing effective range with recoil 
reducing effective range with nerf darts 
solid hinge
BAR is good i think
sturdy osprey
BAR is fun I'll give it that
solid hinge
and lewis
solid hinge
i like slow firing mode over fast
theres a glitch u cant get CC from leveling up
so
im broke
cant upgrade BAR or type 100
stoic breach
Actually, if ARs had a 15m 4BTK, it would've already separated them from SMGs, being 10m 4BTK
solid hinge
theres a giant crab in wakes
stoic breach
So if SMG damage just bottomed out to 6BTK faster than ARs it would've already been a good start
solid hinge
a giant claw came out of no where and killed me
icy sluice
An end of round screen fix will also be in play https://twitter.com/PartWelsh/status/1206223520444891137
Twitter
prime pine
BAR IS GOOD
solid hinge
no
prime pine
Oh cool
raw orbit
yes
icy sluice
Every gun is good when you're able to click on heads
stoic breach
Also if SMGs had a 1x headshot multiplier after 30m, that also would've made them balance differently
stoic breach
Well, default is like 1.5x or something
raw orbit
but i wouldnt want to be getting orange markers but not actually getting the damage increase
or hitting the head but not getting orange markers
stoic breach
Yeah, thats another problem on its own, which is understandable
tribal ledge
Turner SMLE, MAS 44:
Improved damage model to 3 BTK within 30 meters as these weapons had an incorrectly low maximum damage
stoic breach
I feel like that would be a decent creative risk they could take but not super necessary
tribal ledge
Fucking finally
stoic breach
Yeah probably would be enough
Cause people shouldnt really be trying to hit shots at that distance anyways with SMGs
And because of bodyshot balance, SMGs already suck at 50m+
I forgot SMGs in the old update were 4-8BTK
That probably could've been buffed
strong parrot
someone claimed i was hacking the other day when i was using the type 100
stoic breach
Epic
raw orbit
everyone is hacking 
strong parrot
i was 29-12 or something stupid it wasnt even a good kd..and my score was top of my team but it was like 12.5k?!!?
fucking wake island is trash for score lol
but i was 1v6ing people and shit alone at their point so i guess i annoyed them
stoic breach
Yeah, big maps, big time between point scoring
prime pine
The usual amount of score in conquest is 10-15K
solid hinge
Wait the fuck? Theyre getting rid of spotting???
solid hinge
The community whines about dark corners and mmgs, they fix it for them and then they whine about that so it gets removed?
What the fuck even is this community
raw orbit
i personallky havent had a problem with visibility since they last tried to fix it but youve got to admit this spotting fix is the laziest possible thing they couldve done about it
prime pine
I think they should increase ADS passive spot to 30 m at least
icy sluice
The target acquisition system was just show name tags but with red dots instead of name tags
prime pine
It was shocking in the alpha
icy sluice
If it showed names, there would be less backlash... which is stupid
prime pine
A plane could be >700/800M away, aiming at it would spot it
icy sluice
9/10 PVP FPS games have this feature
solid hinge
I never had an issue with visibility
icy sluice
Same
solid hinge
I hated the white glow they added in the beginning
prime pine
The start was bad but obviously it got better
icy sluice
I only have it when the person had like 5 frames on my screen and is quite a distance away
solid hinge
Hopefully they keep the ability to turn rim lighting off because I despise that shit
raw orbit
half the time when people get killed by prone mmgs its their own damn fault when they watch their 5 teammates also run out and get mowed down by them 
prime pine
The rockets have been buffed
They're not not fired from the wings but instead in the middle
So in a sense. You have a greater consistent damage output.
raw orbit
even better when you die yourself to one, spam q on them and your squadmate just fucking ignores it and dies trying to revive you 
prime pine
They should buff marking
raw orbit
let us manually mark through smoke tbqh fam
prime pine
Danger pinging some one will follow them
raw orbit
and show it to the whole team ✊
icy sluice
I do like seeing the community hate the soldier lighting but at the same time there was absolutely no one against it in Battlefield 4 where it may have been worse
prime pine
So if i for example die right by raptor and he'd not my squad. I can ping the place when he's right by me he can see it
raw orbit
you dont even notice it unless youre looking for it
prime pine
What did i do
icy sluice
Be my teammate
fleet bloom
it was beast on 3 and 4 where you're all just in a dark corner but you radiate light equal to the sun
prime pine
You seem really pissed at me
fleet bloom
prime pine
Dont even know what i did
solid hinge
@icy sluice are you dropped when you were born
icy sluice
You didn't do anything, I'm just meming
prime pine
Cant tell context through the internet
ivory geyser
Can we keep this channel on-topic? Thanks
solid hinge
@prime pine they made rockets more accurate? Shit that's neat
icy sluice
That's a mute
prime pine
They also seem a bit more powerful
buoyant fossil
How can people like underground
icy sluice
Anyways, back to an actual sense of discussion
raw orbit
rip jarradjuicewrld (origin)
buoyant fossil
Every time i see that map i leave instantly
icy sluice
@buoyant fossil because fast-paced Adderall addicts
buoyant fossil
Boring map
raw orbit
i liked using slrs on it for godknows what reason
prime pine
I like underground when the combat is moving
raw orbit
not anymore though 
buoyant fossil
Metro was always ass
prime pine
Slr's are good
buoyant fossil
people like camping
prime pine
Just wish they didnt change the rpm
tribal ledge
Yes
idle breach
the great depression
tribal ledge
It is bad
idle breach
but the
tribal ledge
idle breach
including overall bugs and things
tribal ledge
^This dude is spot-on.
idle breach
hmm it's like
solid hinge
metro was fun if you were flanking it
tribal ledge
Like for real
All the point he mentions
Are things DiCe should care for
Much more than anything else right now
solid hinge
all the enemies in a raping russia while you go around them and go to flat c
idle breach
5.2 patch is like uh
solid hinge
that shit was fun
idle breach
Qing dynasty in late 19th century
tribal ledge
Cheaters are still rampant and a huge problem.
Team balancing is still broken
We still can't change assignments mid-game.
The armory is a joke where 90% of all the skins can only be acquired by premium currency. I have yet anything to spend all my CC-coins on.
Most of the assignment haven't been adjusted for the new damage models. many of the assignments are now borderline impossible
sturdy osprey
Btw if you guys didn't know about the auto rotation aim assist that was introduced in 5.2 it is was demonstrated on YouTube.
And can not be disabled
Was*
It's for the noobs to have a chance 🤣 why dice
idle breach
- We got new thing, which is fancy but eh. not enough for compensate other things
- existing problems are worse
- some sloved issue were back
- there are several new issues
- many problems are left unfixed
yeah
it's like 19th century Qing dynasty
idle breach
defo not the WORST time like
solid hinge
im like dice when i solve my problem i cause more problems
tribal ledge
@idle breach Anyone told you you are being redundant?
woven lake
what game mods is al shadah?
idle breach
no
woven lake
modes
tribal ledge
Like we get it
tribal ledge
You're saying the same thing over and over and over again
solid hinge
only thing i dislike is the act that 95% of the skins in Armory can only be bought by irl
woven lake
campaing desert map
idle breach
I say 5.2 is shit
tribal ledge
You're not funny.
solid hinge
cash
idle breach
I need to do this to not panic so please understand thank you
sturdy osprey
Hit do you think I'm trying to be?
solid hinge
thats weird
woven lake
what game modes is the new camping desert map in
idle breach
al soondan?
idle breach
conquest, breakthrough, squad conquest.
tribal ledge
TDM
idle breach
yeah and tdm
sturdy osprey
I assure you I'm not trying to be just wondering why this auto rotation aim assist was implemented in 5.2 and can't be disabled.
Hell it wasn't even listed on the patch notes.
tribal ledge
Breakthrough and TDM on Wake Island are absolute cancer
Not fun.
Breakthrough is very broken
Attackers get 6 tanks
Defenders get only 2
With essentially no Flak cannons
solid hinge
i enjoy wakes breakthrough
tribal ledge
So as defenders yoau re going to get royally buttfucked
solid hinge
if the us side is good then youre definitely going to lose by 400+ tickets
tribal ledge
Wake Island breakthrough should be renamed to "Tank Cancer Island"
solid hinge
yeah
sturdy osprey
I told dice at least tomorrow they brought the paper towels to start cleaning up the shit stain
Lol
solid hinge
i should become one
tribal ledge
@sturdy osprey They are not cleaning anything. The changes they are doing is miniscule
solid hinge
@sturdy osprey plane guy tell me whats bette
solid hinge
for anti tank
tribal ledge
@sturdy osprey Nothing is being fixed. All the weapons are still going to be entirely useless outside their intended range.
sturdy osprey
Depends
tribal ledge
The game has been massively nerfed and adapted to close range combat still
sturdy osprey
Go with the 800
worldly flower
I have a milsim related question for y'all.\
theres this guy called skyrim who made a waffen SS milsim and some people were getting a bit upset at him, I'm not in that milsim but whats y'all take on it.
worldly flower
Dunno, perhaps they just got tired of all the american based milsims
icy sluice
His name is Skyrim :v
solid hinge
You can have a german milsim without being part of the SS
icy sluice
I did change my platoon tag to 0MD because there's so many MDs out there
worldly flower
Personally I'm fine with it, it's their choice.
icy sluice
I do see a lot of people with Yiff as their tag which is concerning
solid hinge
stfu
icy sluice
Several people are typing
worldly flower
Furries have infected BFV?
errant root
People who play Milsim on Battlefield are mouth breathers.
hoary creek
so... patchnotes are out
icy sluice
Yeah, as told in #game-news
hoary creek
opinions?
idle breach
too many gua bi
solid hinge
germany is worth less than other countries
errant root
I guess they're keeping their discrete aim-assist implementation to make the game easier for trash players?
idle breach
what
versed notch
Interesting
idle breach
how much is germany than
solid hinge
germany is low tier
idle breach
like how much
idle breach
can I buy germany
idle breach
0.3 what
worldly flower
Also, I demand mastery skins for the Americans and Japanense
idle breach
no no that doesn't make sense like
can I buy ireland with three germany? pretty plz
nvm why would I buy ireland with germany
soft storm
Still don’t get why they’re dumbing down the gameplay so much
Tank vs tank gameplay just feels off
idle breach
it's.. it's not even a noob friendly something
soft storm
I don’t even think AP rounds make that huge of a difference, deciding between the two is useless when you can DPS people with your 6 pounder, 76mm or heat rounds
idle breach
noobs got 0 lvl tank, experienced players got 6lvl tank.
tank can't kill tanks like they used to be, so tanks are more focusing on killing infantry
which making noob life much more harder
errant root
They forgot how to make a good game.
They even said that they don't even remember what made Bad company 2 so appealing to people. That alone is a hard yikes.
echo turtle
What makes Pepsi so damn good
errant root
Well I don't know, maybe the fully destructible environments and class balance.
prime pine
Valentine AP rounds do a legendary 56 points of damage to a piv's engine
worldly flower
@echo turtle nah, MOUNTAIN DEW
prime pine
Cause it was really well balanced
idle breach
cmon it's dice game so let's think like dice
what would dice do?
in this situation
echo turtle
Make more shit to break
errant root
2/10 too many men
errant root
Their current Frostbite build is a travesty.
Literally, one of Respawn's lead developers called Frostbite a huge piece of shit, LMAO
idle breach
sound atmosphere was beter too
errant root
Respawn have used Source Engine and Unreal, but refuse to touch the bug infested wonder that is Frostbite
idle breach
isn't frostbite used in many other studios in EA like
solid hinge
Yes
idle breach
even outside shooter genre
solid hinge
EA bought the engine
errant root
Yeah, but those are mostly really bad teams making bad games
quasi aspen
anthem 😂
idle breach
FOIFA?
errant root
Anthem > Flop
solid hinge
All ea games use it except for games made by respawn
idle breach
NEED FOR SPEED
mirror's edge
tbh it has one of the best windowed mode switch time
plants vs zombies : garden warfare used frostbite
errant root
There was a quote from Respawn that said something that would take 30 seconds to code on Unreal takes 3 days with Frostbite.
errant root
Yikes
idle breach
it's like doing like
3rd place in olympic 200m sprint
with only one leg
that's fucking impressive
errant root
What he was basically saying is that Frostbite lacks very basic tools that are available with Unreal and Unity.
errant root
So they'd have to spend all day trying to code in a feature from scratch, then another few days debugging.
idle breach
like bunch of carpenters can't even properly make a nice working chair but
actually they only had BARE HANDS
errant root
Versus just using Unreal and accomplishing what they want in 3 minutes.
idle breach
impressive
pallid steppe
What will the hotfix do?
errant root
EA pushes Frostbite so hard, mostly because of Soderlund
The hotfix will likely break the game further.
Like every other hotfix since 2016
pallid steppe
Makes sense
idle breach
afak fetching report is no.1 priority
since nobody is getting any unlock, fucking terrible especially for people with few guns and such
errant root
Micro-Stutter on Wake Island
pallid steppe
But might they revert ttk change?
errant root
No, their egos are too fragile for that
errant root
They don't give a fuck about the community
errant root
Like reimplementing aim assist auto-rotation "by accident"
pallid steppe
Well if it was by accident how it get through testing 🤔
errant root
They're tone deaf
pallid steppe
Trynna change the meta
idle breach
why do the guns do worse damage? nobody know
just announce like they're changing the thing
as I always say
errant root
They want to make the game easier for all of those new players that won't be buying the game this Holiday
idle breach
bfv is out of hands
dice can't control bfv
it's a living creature
you must talk to the elders of frostbite to ask some change and bfv may grant your wish or maybe not
don't be a sinner
echo turtle
The ttk does not benefit anyone
idle breach
bfv is just sick from cold weather I think
pallid steppe
Not to further trash talk ea but i think theyre on dice too much
errant root
BFV hasn't topped the top 20 best selling games list since November 2018. BO4 and GTA V have been on that list every month.
errant root
For for 12 months BFV wasn't a top 20 best seller
pallid steppe
I think dice by itself would make better games
idle breach
DICE is making their only in house engine
errant root
TOP TWENTY
pallid steppe
Well now
idle breach
dice is known for good good good employee welfare compared to other companies
pallid steppe
Yeah but in term of game quality
errant root
Guerilla Games makes Decima Engine. Epic makes Unreal. Valve makes Source.
idle breach
if dice was like other company EA would just shut it down like 5 yrs ago
pallid steppe
How about rockstar?
idle breach
remember bf4? dice included a coup scenario in modern day china
errant root
They use their Rage engine.
pallid steppe
Ik take2 loves to sue
idle breach
chinese government tried to ban every EA game but
echo turtle
Rage engine currently
errant root
Rage = Rockstar Action Game Engine
idle breach
EA just fucking begged like hell so only bf was banned
imagine some other studio did that kinda shit
insta-death
pallid steppe
No like hows t2 with r* in terms of welfare
errant root
Two biggest game engines by a mile are Unreal and Unity
idle breach
imagine titanfall 3 takes place in Beijing
errant root
Then, probably Source
idle breach
insta-fired
raw orbit
imagine titanfall 3
pallid steppe
Imagine free tf3
raw orbit
why would tf3 take place in beijing tho lmao
errant root
Titanfall and Apex use Source.
pallid steppe
@raw orbit example on about how China works
@idle breach if they go harder then bf would flop
errant root
Hey, DICE is on the right side of history, remember? 😂
idle breach
yeah it's like dice is EA's favorite child but
but not doing anything well but he has some illness and thing so
EA is always caring about DICE and just straight abuse other studios
even murdered some studios
pallid steppe
Remember the days everyone blamed ea and praised dice?
errant root
Still socially inept though
worldly flower
@errant root I'M OFFENDED
idle breach
700 IQ but sleeps 23 hours a day
errant root
Notice how DICE and EA employees in this channel are playing everything but EA games?
idle breach
lol
raw orbit
a high functioning autist would apply logic to their decisions though which is something dice is clearly lacking
errant root
I love Braddock's "Doing stuff, I guess"
idle breach
lol
worldly flower
.
idle breach
loose
pallid steppe
Because u only have a concious life of 33600 hours or so
errant root
Yeah, imagine getting paid to release buggy garbage and not have to answer to your customers.
DREAM JOB
pallid steppe
@idle breach is rockstar game good to employees
raw orbit
you get to do fucking anything and break everything in the process 
errant root
Customer asks for a manager, but nobody answers
echo turtle
I work for ea, so therefore I must play games released by ea
idle breach
you need to work 36 hours a day
errant root
No one ever answers
idle breach
guys I just realised
echo turtle
That's one way you can drive yourself nuts
idle breach
DICE is the stereotype of millenials by boomers
errant root
Well DICE employees should be testing their game, just saying
echo turtle
Every developer has testers
errant root
I don't think they test any of their patches, they just guestimate
echo turtle
That they hired so there is bias
pallid steppe
If u only slept 23 hour each day qll your life
idle breach
no it's not a patch it's a request
pallid steppe
You would only experience 3 full years before u die
upper halo
"evade any asian company or company located in asia"
idle breach
i said bfv is not a video game it's a digital creature with feelings
upper halo
chill on the passive racism there
solid hinge
Hello
idle breach
other than that, fucking horrible overall
pallid steppe
Imagine boycotting the game and going to plqy bf style games on roblox
errant root
But without the power
pallid steppe
Revert ttk make $
idle breach
let's make bfv cute little digimon again and try to make bfv evolve into some badass lookin digimon
don't push your digimon so hard that's how you get that shitty skeleton digimon
errant root
I laughed a bit too hard at that
idle breach
skull something mon
pallid steppe
Skull monster
solid hinge
When will they update?
solid hinge
Cuz on xbox the 3d spotting is more than broken
idle breach
for some reason I dunno maybe some dev asked like "can you do eastern front"
solid hinge
U cant hide even behind walls
echo turtle
Monday
solid hinge
I dont know if it the same in other consoles but they said that on xbox is worse
errant root
You're just uneducated
solid hinge
I snipe ppl behind sandbags
nocturne storm
why cant i even use medic rank 4 stuff even thou im medic rank 9?
errant root
The game is perfect
pallid steppe
On ps4 i just get my bolt and get killstreaks of 14
idle breach
@nocturne storm the progression is fucked up the game isn't tracking your progression
solid hinge
@nocturne storm CC and guns unlock are broken
nocturne storm
well this is bullshit
echo turtle
Check pins
pallid steppe
@nocturne storm yeah im rank 20 the glitch on ps4 is not as prominent but they cannot fetch my reporr
idle breach
if you're blessed somehow the game just... do the job randomly
you need to TRUST in bfv
solid hinge
U have a low % of not getting the "couldnt find ur stats" after a match
idle breach
and don't forget to pray before mealtime
solid hinge
And u unlock everything
echo turtle
Just check the pins
pallid steppe
@solid hinge i cant ever get my stats
idle breach
@nocturne storm
Celestine BlackLast Saturday at 05:12
A PSA
from myself
I quantified the fix for undelivered class unlock guns not being delivered. (such as M1928A1 for level 20 medic) the player must go to Practice > Practice Range or test your knowledge against real players, complete the original Weapons Practice or squad conquest, In Practice against Players, make sure you rank up the class in match so you'll get it eom and then the unlocked gun will be delivered ................................. You can also do it on Custom Games
If you are already level 20 for your class, you can still play and it'll update everything. So, DICE added the Kunai throw knives for the Japanese faction which unlocks at level 9. If you're already level 20 sniper, then just play Practice against Players or Custom Games once (you don't have to finish), and the Kunai should be unlocked for you. You may have to wait for the match to end for it to trigger. Thanks to Stirling Archer & Nyphon for the additional info.
I just tested it and it works
solid hinge
@pallid steppe i got them some days ago and i got 9k CC
I have all the guns unlocked so i dont know if it works the gun glitch too
If u manage to trigger that u unlock everything, maybe u can find something
On internet
Jesus
They are killing the suomi, zk and the tommy with such high recoils
Actually the type 100 is killing them
That for some unknown reasons has less recoil and more dmg
They really don’t want to revert the ttk back
echo turtle
They hardwired it into the game
idle breach
maybe the game did it by itself.
echo turtle
Making it very difficult to do so
idle breach
bfv is sentient being and trying to take a physical form
solid hinge
They should change the golden skin challenges on the mg 42
In something like
"In 1 life kill 1 enemy beyond 100m"
finite bear
Trying to unlock the damn BAR. Says get 1500 score and I rack up 12000. Didnt get that accomplishment?
Is it strictly in capturing points?
autumn bane
idle breach
every point you make in wake island
it's 20000 score
in the support class
uh
do..anything in support class
polar totem
So are there supposed to be proficiency assignments for the BAR? Because I got mine to level five and nothing unlocked
Actually now that I think of it I haven’t gotten a single weapon skin for it yet
So it’s broken
Of course it’s broken
finite bear
Yeah I was support on wake island haha
Several rounds
Yeah
Whatever maybe I just needed to reboot my game and give it a go
proper goblet
Come play domination, server #60099
solid hinge
I got points using planes and medic
nova cedar
did they revert ttk
uneven hollow
Wasn’t it like kill 50 people with bar
solid hinge
delete the reddit pleas
i have to wear a hazardous outfit everytime i scroll the sub
solid hinge
this game is fun
solid hinge
i donr know about you guys but the omly thing that does not work for.me is the fetch report
i heard some of the players cant unlock camos
hoary condor
clicks breakthrough server is now operations
solid hinge
yeah i heard that one too
hoary condor
really want to play this game... but it's so hard when it's so shit adn broken 😢
bfv <-- that's a good joke
know it's bad when it's time for firestorm 
icy sluice
I wonder how many people notice the faint breathing effect that's in the game
hoary condor
don't even hear it tbf lol
icy sluice
It's not an audio effect, it's visual
It's only really noticeable when you're standing perfectly still
hoary condor
spend more time listening to menu soundtrack waiting for a game
icy sluice
Stand perfectly still and stare at something, the camera slightly moves like your character is breathing
sweet pawn
wow
icy sluice
It's barely noticeable
sweet pawn
that's kewl
hoary condor
3 minutes waiting... for a game
solid hinge
im going to buy fallout 4
tight rain
Noice
lethal wren
@opaque cipher will i be getting an update on my requests earlier?
hoary condor
fallout 4 is good tbf
icy sluice
Some people say DICE don't play this game, I now have an image of DRUNKKZ3 and Oliver in the same image
opaque cipher
We‘ll usually announce any changes we make to the server in #server-news
Won’t be coming that fast is for sure
hoary condor
play it or not, jus test it to make sure the job is done 🙂
lethal wren
can you at least ping me? pretty please?
hoary condor
i work with software devs, they test it all
opaque cipher
I’ll have to remember it 
icy sluice
Also the image of two DICE people in it has three DICE friends :v
lethal wren
if fallout 4 was good then fallout 76 is great
@opaque cipher just a thanks even if you do it or not
opaque cipher
👍
lethal wren
time to hop back into my abrams
hoary condor
fix the game before adding pointless easter eggs
lethal wren
watch this, its great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UWUmbby_wU
hoary condor
no go to #streams-and-videos for that
hoary condor
lethal wren
because america
icy sluice
Rare DICE Universal Carrier
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464670086808993802/655816016647159850/unknown.png
solid hinge
ahyes obamium
icy sluice
Why are discord links not embedding for me? 
keen spade
Why does it feel like Conquest on wake island is US Side Bias
like seriously
every game i join
80% of the time
the us wins
lethal wren
because of the MG campers
hoary condor
if you defend, you lose
lethal wren
i mean, they nerfed the garand because of this
keen spade
I have a theory (Thats most likely true) why they made wake island this way on conquest and not like how it was in BF1943
Because of the lack of a Japanese Aircraft carrier model
and they wanted to rush this out
lethal wren
yes, because the players are leaving
hoary condor
left
lethal wren
because the western front has been overdone for decades now
if you want to add woman into a ww2 game, please explore the eastern front
is it that sensitive? Treyarch did it just fine with CoD:WaW
the british V german front on the early age of the war is incredibly boring imo
keen spade
like i love the design of wake island in BFV
lethal wren
so does american V german
lethal wren
wake island looks too generic
hoary condor
love the reports work for firestorm but not for anyting else
lethal wren
we need more sophisticated tunnels, artillery shell craters
lethal wren
yes, we were so hyped during the Alpha and Beta test
buoyant fossil
holy shit
hoary condor
it was so good, but the more they added the worse it got
lethal wren
and that reveal trailer, that thing... ruined it
lethal wren
the BAR was suppose to be extremely good
buoyant fossil
6 BTK
lethal wren
it got nerfed like the garand
lethal wren
because EA
hoary condor
i would of thought they would focus on firestorm, as BR mode keeps players playing, but dice have not even bothered with it since the hand over
lethal wren
because tojos are the best apparently
buoyant fossil
Guess Mohammed wanted his type 100 to be good
lethal wren
type 100 OP