battlefield-legacy-titles

[teal fractal]

even like just battlefield 5's slide would make the game way better to play

and bf4s strafing

#streams-and-videos message literally no one asking for anything crazy just have this and the game is beyond better 😭

literally everything you can do becomes so much better because rotating between positions is much better and you can make better offensive plays

[dreamy brook]

guys i cant find normal games con bf1

i miss this game sm

best bf oat

[urban lark]

I don’t think more movement would be necessary cause DICE made a pretty intentional move with nerfing it but limiting how many explosives the classes got might’ve helped

[solid hinge]

I really hope with bf6 they figure out a better progression system than bf2042, like maybe make it much easier to get all the weapons faster and then give players other cosmetic rewards for higher levels

[livid bay]

Idk why people are against this. It's not even that fast

Even basic console users should be able to use/track this movement with decent ease

The only "fast movement" I disagree with is stuff that only PC can do easily. And even then, I'd be fine with that as long as they limited crossplay

[teal fractal]

idk just keep spamming G and tell yourself the game is fun

[teal fractal]

it really isnt fast

the people that say it is are insanely delusional

[solid hinge]

the gunning is much better in bf5, though the movement feels like what you'd get in a battle royale so I can understand why people would be against that

the recovery after the slide is just too fast and doesn't punish people abusing it which is what makes it a bad feature

if they nerfed it into a movement that would only be used to reposition that could make it better

[urban lark]

I mean you can literally slide up hill

Air strafe, bhop, all that is one thing I can maybe understand. But BFVs slide just exists cause of the backlash from back when dice nerfed slide into the ground with bf1

[solid hinge]

the more movement you add in fps games the less casual it becomes as well and I don't think this is something dice would want in the current state of everything battlefield

[urban lark]

Yeah

I think it undermines the sandbox aspect of battlefield to act like “movement tech” belongs in this franchise at all

[solid hinge]

I think such high movement has a place in say cod or splitgate (last one is dead af so don't think about this one lmao) but absolutely not in battlefield

[urban lark]

I enjoy the game and I think most of the community does too considering it’s the most commercially successful entry. Bad balancing yeah absolutely, even BF4 in all its glory has a lot of the same issues you mentioned with bf1

I was actually agreeing with you and saying I’d probably like bf1 even more with less explosive spam

[teal fractal]

yeah but you said it as if making it gadget spammy is a good fix for removing any form of movement

[urban lark]

I could be radical and say I don’t think any movement the human body can’t replicate should belong in arcade FPS but at the very least I can concede on bunnyhops and airstrafe (though slide just needs to be executed)

[solid hinge]

Oh I don't really care if the movement is realistic to what a human can do in real life, imo gameplay matters more unless you're trying to make a milsim

if the game was set on mars with justification for it having rocket slides i'd be ok with that

[urban lark]

I can only assume DICE made the game gadget heavy to make up for lacking movement

[solid hinge]

just doesn't fit in grounded bf6

[teal fractal]

which is a horrible decision

[urban lark]

Yeah I actually agree, I can excuse advanced movement if the theme maybe supports it

[solid hinge]

not only the theme necessarily, but also the gameplay itself

high movement doesn't translate well in large maps, 32v32 players games imo

you could take the planetside 2 example but that game doesn't have that much movement aside just a jetpack that basically just allows you to traverse vertically just to get to higher positions on the light assault class

[urban lark]

At the very least I am an anti air rocket enjoyer

I find the anti tank rocket too cheesy and boring

[urban lark]

Yeah I agree

I mean idk in my opinion what’s the point in the transport vehicles if you can just slide hop everywhere mindlessly lol there’s just too many implications to it. BF works better as a grounded shooter

[teal fractal]

do you consider bf4 "grounded"

also movement doesnt take away from that grounded gameplay if anything it actually heavily aids you to play the game because you arent forced to make single motion movements or just having lack of movement all together

meaning you can actually play your positions better

[real mortar]

locked weapon sets for classes for bf6 makes no sense and will reduce the "battlefield" team coop play because everyone is honna class switch to their favorite gun regardless of class

[teal fractal]

why is this an issue

[solid hinge]

the problem with bf5 movement is that sliding has no downside

even delta force does it better

sliding or diving makes you vulnerable if you do it in the open

in bf5 it only gives you an advantage on top of being "too fast" for what it is

if it were like the way sliding works in say modern warfare 2022 then it wouldn't be as problematic

[solid hinge]

No, people will play the class they want to play just like any other game

[urban lark]

Bait?

The system worked fine for 20+ years

[real mortar]

so does open weapon

and is more fun

[solid hinge]

also dice is currently leaning towards allowing classes to use any weapon to sell more skins

[urban lark]

Overhated game ngl

MW22 was the closest any mainstream game got to being what I’ve been asking for since forever

[real mortar]

how is having to use an ar on assault more fun than being able to use any other weapons on it

[solid hinge]

I don't hate cod games, I'm not the kind to hate games unless they have a terrible flaw or are a buggy mess

I used to hate 2042 because the release was complete buggy garbage

now it's fine but I only got it for 2$ cause I refunded it back when it released

Literally took less than an hour to realise how bad it was

[real mortar]

bf2042 was dogshit from release evb knows that its the best newer game for under $5 on steam

[urban lark]

All that means is nothing else is dropping besides the annual CoD and sports games

2042 will certainly die as soon as titles like BF6 and even gta 6 drop

Game doesn’t even have persistent servers or a browser for the only played game modes

[solid hinge]

I mean the numbers clearly show even with a 95% discount people would rather go back to bf5 or bf1 for the same price soooo....

[urban lark]

[solid hinge]

I enjoy it here and there, but most people don't or have simply forgotten about it

which is why they currently have to give away free coins or parts of older battle passes to make people (whales) want to spend whatever money they have left to spend on it

[urban lark]

128 is the only decent concept the game has to offer, but funnily enough DICE experimented with 128 and even 256 players as early as BF3 over 10 years ago and came to the conclusion that it just doesn’t work

[real mortar]

no shit gta6 is gonna kill everything

[urban lark]

Thing is 2042 is so bad that even a non fps game will destroy it

[solid hinge]

I'm having more fun on delta force than bf2042 rn, which is possibly the worst example of mtx filled spyware

though the operators in delta force are just as bad as 2042 tbh

[urban lark]

That’s the only thing that kept me from trying it

[solid hinge]

yeah the operators with cutscenes and stories is just cringe ngl

[cedar furnace]

you guys, what factions do you think we will have on the next btf? They talked about USA vs an european ex-nato faction?? mixed with latinamerican bros

[abstract ibex]

Does anyone know why I suddenly started having over 150ms ping in BF4 and BF1 but not in BFV?

Those are literally the only games giving me trouble

[solid hinge]

seeing what's happening with them ignoring feedback in labs we're probably going to get a hero shooter slop with fake factions so I wouldn't bet on what factions we're gonna get

[solid hatch]

CAN YOU USE JOYSTICKS

[cedar furnace]

i dont really know why do they do that, and that doesnt happen only with one company

Literally people is telling them how to make a lot of money and they dont understand

And DICE devs nowadays and more when they teorically remade their workforce should be battlefield veterans or at least know what did work before

[livid bay]

It's NATO vs some PMC called Pax Armada

[cedar furnace]

yes thats what I saw, the "PMC" is called "PAX-ARMATA" but, that name sounds Latin, could this faction be made up of latin countries (Spain, Italy, maybe France) and other countries in america, vs the rest of NATO? In 2042 lore its seems that there was a big world war that devastated lots of countries in Europe, without Nukes, russia or USA cant be behind that, or at least not directly.

and also we have Gibraltar battle, and they also speak of an amphibious landing map to recover gibraltar, that means Spain could be in Pax-Armata ...

Idk what they smoked to make the storymode but in the end I hope its good

[solid hinge]

Because they think the cod and fortnite logic of selling goody skins to casuals will apply to battlefield as well but people who play battlefield are not looking for a cod-like experience, which is why people were so angry when they released the santa skin in 2042. They need to understand battlefield is different compared to those franchises and work on that

This is the main reason why they don't want the classes in the first place, because they believe this will sell them more skins

and compared to cod, as we've seen with 2042, the players will actually leave if they're not pleased, all you have to do is check steamcharts of what happened with 2042, sure they reached 100k top concurrent players, but it dropped extremely fast for such a big franchise

Cod will always thrive even if its core identity is technically dead as of now because it's mostly played by extremely casual players that play 30-45 minutes after work and buy the yearly cod because they don't play anything else

mind you I enjoy cod as well, I just don't buy anything other than the game itself and maybe the battle passes if I manage to finish them (so i can buy the next ones for free)

but battlefield is simply different in what kind of hardcore and casual audience they cater to and they just don't seem to understand that

[livid bay]

I don't think any countries are in Pax Armata. There's people from specific countries, but the countries themselves are likely not a part of it

[cedar furnace]

not the countries taking part, but being controlled by force by pax armata yes, just like happened in cod ghost

[tidal shuttle]

We will see what this game is about soon

[buoyant wolf]

Facts

Lmao ikr

As early as 2011, DICE had already confirmed that their Frostbite engine was capable of up to 256 players and they’d tested this.

Whether this is too chaotic or not is entirely the fault of the game designers, not the player counts.

A simple command hierarchy can prevent relentless chaos (like commander > platoon leader > squad leader like I said).

[buoyant wolf]

Bro, there’s literally less than 24 hours until I get my new 5.1 surround sound system

[severe thorn]

Alright, I'm not exactly sure where to go with this, but I'm having a weird issue with BF4. Basically, a long while back, even though I hadn't purchased it, it said I that owned premium and whatnot and was given the benefits of it. I got the dogtags, the melee weapons, the camos, and I had access to all the DLCs. I just recently reinstalled BF4 and now I have none of it. I have the 2 DLCs that I already owned prior, I still have access to the Premium dogtags, melee weapons, and camos, but not the remaining paid DLCs. Whaaat is going on?

[stone cosmos]

Guys, is there still the playtest for the new Battlefield?

[kindred sail]

have you tried doing a google search?

[stone cosmos]

Should I believe Google?

[kindred sail]

well first two results should give you the answer, pro tip, there is also a way of signing up on the second result, something called BF labs 😉

[stone cosmos]

👌🏻😐

[arctic jolt]

Yeah its called battlefield labs

[real quartz]

Wish I could have the opportunity to talk a lil trashnb listens to me😩

See chat stopped on me again I think it AI

Is better go talk to my AI gr we're going to build a tree house in the tropics loll

[pale wadi]

Hello! I want to get familiarized with Battlefield Multiplayer before Battlefield 6(?) launches next year(?).
What game would you guys recommend for Xbox. I am OK with either the modern setting of Battlefield 4 or the WW1 setting of Battlefield 1.
I guess mainly what I want to know is, which one has a bigger player population?

[hazy violet]

https://www.arenabreakoutinfinite.com/act/a20250408dc/index.html?sShareCode=3c7062fe179c757da8f4db1466a9bdbc

[tidal shuttle]

this hold fast game shadow dropped on the 9th

it fun

[granite wyvern]

BFV

[solar nexus]

Battlefield 4 if that's feasible, you have to play on community servers to avoid cheaters but that's not fullproof either. If not Battlefield 1 is a great starting point. Start with the campaigns of both games, that will get you familiar with the controls

[granite wyvern]

He’s on Xbox

[solar nexus]

In terms of player count battlefield 1 and battlefield 5 has a lot more players compared to battlefield 2042.

[solid hinge]

Since you’re on xbox either bf1 or bf5 will probably be good since you won’t have loads of cheaters like we have on pc

If you can get it on extreme sale I’d still also recommend bf2042 even if it’s not as popular

[sullen sand]

Yoo guyss

I'm in love with battlefield 1 and V and
I just heard Battlefield 4 servers are being shutdown on consoles

I'm afraid bf 1 will have the same fate in 2-3 years

I hope they don't shut it down i love this game so much 😭

[granite wyvern]

Hopefully BF6 will be good and we will all be on that by then.

[sullen sand]

Won't run on my laptop

16 gb ram and intel iris xe

Can barely run rdr2 on 45 fps

[random blade]

They aren’t, that was a mishap

[granite wyvern]

I’ve got consoles (so plug n play).

[steel ridge]

Battlefield

[quick night]

I've completed the campaign, but got no assignment rewards for Single Player at all, any fixes or just a stupid bug?

For BF4)

[vagrant moth]

after being a fan of bf4, 1, and 5, i snagged 2042 on sale but now i cant play it cuz of this "secure boot" bs??

[brave glacier]

Battlefield

[solid hinge]

I mean your fault, it should be enabled by default on recent systems, skill issue + ratio (/s)

[left sleet]

It's a slightly complicated process, but try going on YouTube and search for a guide by EA on how to turn on Secure Boot

[lunar canopy]

the 30,000 players on PS will not be pleased

[granite wyvern]

Sounds like a lucky escape

[kindred sail]

you need to enable secure boot in the bios

BF 6 will have the same requirement

[crimson sleet]

@novel cradle rippledipplee_

@strong heron rippledipplee_

[sacred sparrow]

Is there a reason you're pinging seemingly random people?

[lunar canopy]

they’re just pinging their teammates in the BFV call 😭

[solid hinge]

Good afternoon I am here for Battlefield 6 !

I have played since 1942, but BF2 was the best

Till the aimbotters and ESP users came and destroyed it

Anti cheat is paramount

[lusty jackal]

Thank you mr president

[tardy inlet]

Idk now the amount of players is so small that there is rarely a cheater)))

In bf2 I mean

[granite wyvern]

BF6 is going to be one big beautiful game!

[fast bridge]

every bit as colourful as Whimsyshire!

[teal fractal]

there arent 30k players on ps

[lunar canopy]

yep that was hyperbole

thanks for the ping

[fast bridge]

now I feel like pinging you 🤔

[urban lark]

I’d give 1 upwards of 5 years on consoles. Still going pretty strong on the player counts

[real quartz]

How do I change my avatar of picture ? Any anyone

My lil Milton has been gone for a long time that's why I asked tired of looking at his picture

[late schooner]

Discord, i presume?

[solid hinge]

If on Mobile:

1. Go to "You" at the bottom right when browsing channels.
2. Tap edit profile.
3. Tap your user icon and change image as-desired.

[real quartz]

Thank you I'll try that

[real quartz]

It worked your da man Thank you

[solid hinge]

Glad to help! 💜

[brisk marsh]

Wassup people1

[ebon basalt]

Yo

[hearty rover]

Bitchin'

[eternal moat]

I bet you im gonna get banned because of my name

[granite wyvern]

Well being as you are drawing attention to it you might.

[vital scroll]

yyoo guys

when Battle field 6 come out

[fast bridge]

sometime in the near future

[granite wyvern]

Release date not confirmed yet (the title has not even been confirmed for that matter).

[unkempt tiger]

What you always can read in the Internet is latest until March 2026.

[fickle crane]

Hi

[dull canopy]

#stats

#stats

[sturdy coral]

I need a bf1 achievement in air superiority

[drifting vapor]

How to online baterfield 4 PS3!!!!

@vapid wagon jacobwaliza

@woeful kestrel

@golden dust

@cursive glen

@oblique cape

Yes

Hey, I'm from Poland and I don't understand you very well, so I'm writing in English because I'm using a translator.

Hey, does anyone know why the servers in Baterfield 4 on PS3 aren't working? Write to me and I'll translate it.

[woeful kestrel]

Servers are probably down

[drifting vapor]

wait, are the servers on ps3 down and working on ps4 for example?

[real quartz]

I would assume I had better just talk here sense the other forums doesn't like my randomness Gat

[golden dust]

we do not know we are on pc and ps5

[real quartz]

Also PC

[buoyant wolf]

Holy shit guys, my new Yamaha YHT-4950U 5.1 surround sound system finally arrived today!

The setup was brutal but worth it. In one week, my replacement remote will arrive. Then, I’ll be able to use the treble/bass equalizer and enable HDMI ARC so I can preserve my gaming TV’s HDMI 2.1 features like ALLM, AMD Free Sync, and VRR.

[granite wyvern]

Just make sure you switch off in game music / announcer and mute your mic lol

[tired thunder]

bf4 ps3 servers no longer exist since the end of 2024

[drifting vapor]

and on PS4 the servers are working

[jade dagger]

question are people still getting game freeze + game crash after dying. i got that since recently.

i havent played bf 2042 in like a month now because it always crashes after i get killed

seems like this problem also dats a few years back with the same issue

[buoyant wolf]

Oh really? What happens if I don’t?

[worldly tinsel]

Idk why but I can't do good with the mp18 in battlefield 1

[tired thunder]

yes

[scenic elm]

MP18 is not that great

[worldly tinsel]

Ye

Idk what gun to get for assault

[scenic elm]

Like its not terrible

[scenic elm]

Automatico M1918

Its one of the best SMGs in the game

Thompson anihilator też jest S tier

[worldly tinsel]

Just give me more damn warbonds

[edgy mantle]

Wdym you cant do good with it?

I feel like almost all BF1 guns are fairly solid and anyone can do decent with them as long as they have some good game sense

I presume its more of an issue with how you play the game rather than the gun

[worldly tinsel]

Nvm I hate this fucking game

Or maybe I just hate assault idk

[scenic elm]

Try medic or support

[worldly tinsel]

Support sucks the guns are useless
I do best with either medic or recon

Im gonna rest now

[scenic elm]

Support ? Useless ? Im offended

[worldly tinsel]

The guns are cool but I can't hit shit
Also no explosives
Altho assault's explosives suck anyway to me

The tank squads are just cancer

[scenic elm]

Support has the crossbow , limpet charge and mortar

And The explosives on assault are very strong

[worldly tinsel]

Ye im just
Welp

Could have spent my money better

😢 🥲

[scenic elm]

You will have to lern and improve

[scenic elm]

Thats Just how tanks in BF1 are all the time

Because you need like 3 players to crew all the Guns on most of the tanks

Unless its a artilery truck , light tank or the Saint chamond

Then its usualy one dude

[solar acorn]

any idea when next play test might be? or if there will be any more or a last one

[worldly tinsel]

I more meant two or more tanks sticking to each other

Like last game two saint chamonds watching each other's back and roaming near spawn points

[sacred sparrow]

The playtests are under NDA, so no public info is available for when they occur.

[solar acorn]

what was the month gap between the 1st and 2nd one.

[sacred sparrow]

Did you read what I wrote?

[solar acorn]

oh

right

mb

[scenic elm]

That sucks too, in BF1 good tankers can be unstopeble

Much more so then in 4 or V

Does not help that allot of the maps have great sight lines for tanks and snipers

[granite wyvern]

Well assume you are doing this so you can better hear surrounding enemy? Music & announcer are the worst offenders for stopping this.

[violet swift]

Battlefield 6 Devs Offer Big Update on ‘Not Locking Weapons to Classes’ Issue. So if they don't lock the classes, it's not battlefield. Not the battlefield I want to play or give them any type of money.

[granite wyvern]

That’s a big non-problem in the scheme of things

[violet swift]

Right. My thing is do you want our money? Make the game how we tell you to make it. If it's not locked then it's just call of duty.

[granite wyvern]

Are you just talking guns or mean gadgets as well?

[violet swift]

Well The Glory Days of battlefield 3 system

So yes both

[granite wyvern]

Well for me it’s the gadgets which define the class so of course they need to be locked. But guns, not so much.

[violet swift]

True that

Which battlefield was your go-to?

[granite wyvern]

Due to 2042 being unplayable, BFV is by far my most played

[violet swift]

I see that.

I I couldn't do the old guns

[granite wyvern]

The SMGs are nice

[buoyant wolf]

Oh right ya I see what you mean now

[violet swift]

Operation Metro station 🤔👀

[urban lark]

I think guns define classes as well because to me it just makes sense that recon is delegated to snipers/DMRs, assault ARs/carbines, so on so forth. It’s definitely trying to imitate real life squads/platoons but for the “muh gameplay over realism” crowd, I’ll put it like this: classes aren’t just unique cause a character model or gadget, it’s how the weapon loadouts are balanced too

[livid bay]

Imo if they can avoid the one-meta issue, then unlocked weapons can work

[urban lark]

What’s that

[livid bay]

Basically, if they mess up the balancing, there's going to be 1 AR that is optimal for nearly every range. This essentially means there's no point in using 90% of the other weapons

[granite wyvern]

Over the years different classes have had different gun types. I play Assault (on BFV) if on a tank map, I may play medic if the rest of my squad are non-medic. I think picking classes purely based on gadgets / roles is fine. (Better that than have half the team playing a class because of a meta gun and not performing the role).

[teal fractal]

its meta

[teal fractal]

support has some of the fastest ttk weapons in the game

[rose siren]

I mean, that’s kinda how it’s always been right? It’s what I like bout battlefield.

[urban lark]

Yes. Class identity is perhaps the biggest thing that actually makes Battlefield different from some of its competitors in the triple A FPS market and not a glorified large scale CoD, which is why I think weapons being unlocked erodes that sense of identity

[rose siren]

The way bf4 implemented it provided a sort of medium for both sides I believe, why not just go for that lol.

[urban lark]

I think carbines/PDWs were the ‘universal’ options in 4 which was a perfectly good balance

Although 1 and V did just fine without it

[rose siren]

Fine with either like

[urban lark]

Same

I think at the end of the day it’s about gun skin revenue, so I doubt dice and ea will budge

Any other explanation for it is honestly just glorified non issues

[rose siren]

They did say they’ll think about the proposal but whateves

[regal lynx]

@naive nacelle any progress on bf1

[keen flame]

EA really needs to give the 1942 or 2 license to aspyr or nightdive so we can actually play the good games in the series again

[peak ore]

yall think the new battlefield is gonna be a mess as 2042

[ebon basalt]

Why are xbox players such filthy campers

[regal lynx]

Yup

[vapid gorge]

WHEN IS THE NEXT PLAYTEST>

?

[broken cipher]

GUYS HOW I CAN GET THE NEW BF LAB TO TEST THE GAME

[alpine edge]

the BF4 system is worst of both worlds imo

[rose siren]

Each their own I suppose

[alpine edge]

you lose any class weapon identification because everyone except assault is running carbines or DMRs while guns like PDWs get unfairly gimped by being locked to engineer

no one wants to play engineer on cqc meat grinder maps lol

[summer lintel]

Is this thing cooking? Do we have a release window?

[tawny minnow]

Guys, I'm in the military and just got back from an underway on my ship recently. It was a month long, so please update me! Did I miss anything? Any news? Etc?

[urban lark]

Bug wise yes that’s a given. Design wise, hopefully not

[hollow finch]

Trying to get a air assault match going in bf1

[tawdry grove]

Can anybody tell me who and why when I jump into some BF1 Ops games some of the weapons are disabled by server settings? 🤔

[noble hound]

What are the odds bf6 is another flop

[alpine edge]

IDK

[plush vapor]

Since they said there will not be class lock weapons. It seems they aproaching again the same thing as BF2042. It will flop, They trying to do a Call of Duty no a Battlefield game.

[zinc snow]

hopefully it isn't another cash grab and it has some competitive multiplayer.

[plush vapor]

EA and Crash grab is basically the same bro

[zinc snow]

rip

[plush vapor]

I just hopping for the best to be honest. I really dont want this to flop.

[alpine edge]

I believe 2042 had bigger problems than open class weapons at launch

[plush vapor]

Yeah, One of them being the clone war. I have no idea how they though having the same face everywhere would be immersive. Lots of bugs, Too arcade and in my opinion Battlefield V had better graphics.

Also was bugged asf.

But classes being useless was a big hit. They really want to approach the Call of Duty way to play this game. Get ready to see Medics using a sniper or a recon using a LMG.

[alpine edge]

I don't that think open weapons really matters that much

[brazen raft]

If anyone is interested, I’ve created a bf3 hardcore server for those looking for a break from the futuristic and goofy 2042. It’s named BF3 All out warfare and the code is AB2FF3.

[solid hinge]

They should just restrict weapon types to classes but give the option to have open selection in custom servers

[near tapir]

I have manually updated punkbuster I made it an exception in my firewall I made sure punkbuster B was running in my services I've tried deleting every trace of pb and then reinstalling it I still get randomly kicked by punkbuster

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

there has got to be a fucken fix

[granite wyvern]

We need a good game with all the expected basic functions (including persistent servers / server browser). The locked weapons ‘issue’ is not going to make or break BF6.

[modern sparrow]

But it will shape the future of all batrlefields

[solid hinge]

The locked weapon issue is just going to make the game double the garbage if it turns out they screwed up most of the systems

But it is still something people want to see happen it seems

[alpine edge]

seems like a hyperbole.

[solid hinge]

Not at all, the class locked weapons is a feature people want across the board it's not that complicated

the people who don't care whether it's on or off don't count in this and the rest is the minority voice and they're the people that are only interested in skins

which is why dice wants to let weapons be usable on any class, for profit

of course that stance makes sense on dice's side, they're only making games for profit I don't blame them for that objective, but I'd rather have them make tons of money while still making good features and not repeating bf2042

[alpine edge]

sounds like a hyperbole.

[solid hinge]

Is it just impossible to have a normal conversation on this server ?

I swear the call of duty server has less idiotic answers than this

either you get some child using third grader personal attacks as arguments or you get people like you sounding like a broken record because they're probably just sitting in their bed being bored and all they found to do at this time is just spam the same messages over and over again

legit don't bother responding if that's all you are capable of, it doesn't cost you anything to ignore a conversation you are not interested in, be it because you disagree or because you're bored

[random blade]

There are plenty of people here with reasons beyond just wanting skins. I haven’t bought a single thing beyond the game itself and can say that through conversations here I’m on the fence regarding locked or unlocked

[alpine edge]

you sound tad bit angry

[random blade]

I’m mostly for them, but the fact that the people who tend to choose a class for the weapon will be consciously choosing a class for the scenario instead of just because it has the gun they want could lead to them actually playing the role

[alpine edge]

oh it's the clown emoji... you're really angry ....

[random blade]

While sure, most players lack the awareness to make the best use of their role anyway, if the class is a primary choice and not a passive result of these specific players choosing a weapon first, theoretically they should be more aware of the role they’ve picked

Not to mention the different ways to play when these guns are more open. Close up recon is fun, for instance. 4 is the only other game to have that but the recon gadgets all work well for various ranges and it just feels right

[solid hinge]

In my opinion yeah it has to do with class identity basically, it doesn't break the game completely but classes feel more meaningful in their role when they have their specific equipment, weapon included

[random blade]

You do lose out on a lot of the unique problem solving that forced weapons created however, which is why I’m more for locked than against, as that dynamic and restriction is fun, as well as it being a way to balance classes

[alpine edge]

weapons are less important than gadgets

far less

[solid hinge]

No they're not

[alpine edge]

I mean

most automatics are all pretty samey

the only real outliers are snipers and LMGs

[fast bridge]

Player desire registered. Weapons disabled for the next BF.

[alpine edge]

what does that even mean

[fast bridge]

just gadgets

Go-go-gadet Battlefield player!

[alpine edge]

unironically a battlefield with everyone a M4A1 would probably play well

[fast bridge]

at least make it a modern gun... everyone gets the mcx spear

[alpine edge]

I'm pretty sure everyone hates the M7

[random blade]

The biggest concern I have for unlocked is that when previously a weapon could determine the combat strength of a class, if anyone can use the most combat effective weapons then that means they’ll have to vastly overtune perks and gadgets to make the assault classes feel strong. Which means incessant air bursts, instant kill grenade launchers or worse…

Before you could just give them pretty okay gadgets and their weapon would make them the primary infantry killer

[solid hinge]

yeah that's true, the gadget spam would get pretty terrible as it already kinda is

[fast bridge]

dunno why... stats on it all say it should be better than the m4. But then it comes down to how the game testers feel it should play anyways

there's nothing real about any of the guns in the game

[alpine edge]

I mean IRL

[solid hinge]

Gameplay should be a priority over any realism in a battlefield game unless you want to make battlefield similar to squad

[alpine edge]

I've seen people use realism argument in favour of class locked weapons 💀

[solid hinge]

locking weapons has nothing to do with realism

Has to do with gameplay

[random blade]

I'm just glad 75% of the population can't figure out how zain works or else we would be in hell constantly

[solid hinge]

My god yes

I barely see that operator

[random blade]

and thank god

[solid hinge]

but skilled players using them...

[random blade]

I've got some nasty clips that should not exist

[fast bridge]

which one is zain? the names don't matter to me

[alpine edge]

I can't think of any valid gameplay reason for locking weapons (if you're arguing in favour of the BF3/4 system)

[random blade]

you know cover? that concept where if you are behind it you are safe?

yeah, nah. You aren't safe :3

[fast bridge]

I only know them by their gadgets

[solid hinge]

Balance, class identity (not realism) which is the core of a battlefield game

[random blade]

airburst

[solid hinge]

we literally talked about this in the last 10 minutes

[alpine edge]

ok well BF3/4's system basically had none of that

[solid hinge]

did we even play the same game

[alpine edge]

assaults end up dominating any cqc environment, engineers would just run DMRs or Carbines, and PDWs just ended getting neglected due to being class locked to engineer

[solid hinge]

oh no assault doing what assault is supposed to be designed for

I'm just, not gonna bother anymore...

[alpine edge]

they shouldn't be allowed to run better weapons than every other class while also being able to self sustain

also not to mention you could run no defibs and heals lol

[tidal wraith]

battlefield 5 is verrry active today 😆

[solid hinge]

They should, because it is their role and other classes have other roles

[alpine edge]

not very well designed.

[solid hinge]

but I forgot people have had their brains rotten by fortnite and need adhd gameplay (no offense to people with actual adhd but this is what it feels like reading this) gameplay of getting 200 kills per minute

[alpine edge]

that's literally assault gameplay in 4

[solid hinge]

The point of assault is to assault, you gotta be joking here

[alpine edge]

yeah but they shouldn't be able to self sustain

[solid hinge]

Because it's assault

I swear that guy is just trolling at this point

[alpine edge]

most powerful weapons + most powerful util

great balancing

[solid hinge]

Wait until this guy plays tf2 where the scout can basically do assaulting and self sustain

[random blade]

if they forced the bf4 assault to use a med box instead of a pouch it would be far better

[solid hinge]

wouldn't survive a match

[alpine edge]

so true

[random blade]

assaults pushing into space, letting the team follow by creating pockets of healing

[alpine edge]

I don't think TF2 is an exactly an apples to applescomparison

[granite wyvern]

Oh behave

[random blade]

the pouches do the same thing but require the person to be aware of others and actually see them as human beings who need support, which most don't seem to XD

[solid hinge]

What ?

[alpine edge]

guys the pouches are like stim from Labs 😱

😱

anyways the BF4 class system just has the worst from both worlds

[random blade]

it is realy fun to play as though

[alpine edge]

idk why removed the heal from stims

[random blade]

It's now just footstep sounds and suppression right?

[alpine edge]

the main problem was that it was on autogen

yeah

not exactly stellar buffs

[random blade]

I kinda like that, as instead of being a reactive gadget it's pre emptive, so you can waste it if you time it wrong

but I do still feel like it should get the med box

[alpine edge]

the way it works in 2042 is fine

[granite wyvern]

Exactly right

[granite wyvern]

State your opinion but don’t claim it to be a fact and shared by everyone else (and those who disagree don’t matter).

[solid hinge]

This is my opinion based on interactions with friends and the current state of social media related to battlefield

There's a reason why dice decided to ignore feedback on the classes issue and that there was an uproar in response

[granite wyvern]

Yet plenty here are disagreeing with you…..

[solid hinge]

You mean you two ?

I'm done man, there's just no point

enjoy crying that "bf6 is dead" on release or whatever you do best in those cases

[granite wyvern]

Gadgets need to be locked to class, there is no good reason guns need to be.

[solid hinge]

We stated all the good reasons before, you're acting like a broken record too

Now you're free to decide to ignore that gameplay balance and class identity is a good thing to have in a shooter game

[granite wyvern]

You mean everyone playing medic in BFV because they have the best guns?

[solid hinge]

But don't come a pretend those are not good reasons in that context

[solid hinge]

You mean medic being good in close range to be able to defend and heal teammates like the way they're supposed to be, while you're also ignoring the game has plenty of snipers and supports because of their role ?

You're just completely ignoring the fact classes are supposed to be good at a role but you probably just see the fps genre as "shoot kill shoot kill" and nothing else so i'm not even surprised

it's so funny because the only game with 0 class identity you're using as an example is dead in the water in comparison

[random blade]

the main reason to pick medic is that self sustain and the limitations placed on you by the attrition system. But since others can pick stuff off your back, you are still playing the role and able to heal people up close, within the range the weapon determines.

Yeah it's a strong weapon type, but it serves the class well

[solid hinge]

color me surprised

[granite wyvern]

You’re kidding right? You want people picking class for guns and not the role??

[solid hinge]

You literally have the answer to that if you actually followed the conversation and took time to read

Yes, because that will make people also play the class, even unconsciously, the way it is intended

which is a good thing

gameplay-wise and balance-wise

[granite wyvern]

You mean the class with the best guns, what about the others if guns are not balanced

[warm quest]

why is battlefield 1 unable to run with a controller emulator?

[random blade]

the trouble with all this is how much of a reliance your own mindset and approach has on the strength of the system. Some people can't change their approach and require agency, where restriction creates irritation, when others thrive in that kind of environment. So there will always be another perspective

[warm quest]

i have a dualshock 4 and i cant run games without an emulator (ds4 windows)

[granite wyvern]

It’s a non-problem in the scheme of things

[solid hinge]

are you just crying because you died to medics in cqc too much ?

[warm quest]

Does anyone use a controller on pc who can help me?

[granite wyvern]

Nah, I’m good

[solid hinge]

I mean that's what you're doing

[warm quest]

😐

[granite wyvern]

Medic is my main class…..

[solid hinge]

picks up conversation in the middle, ignores all the arguments, cries about medics killing them in cqc

what do you want me to make out of this ?

[random blade]

The thing is, assaults in bfv are also the tank killers, with some anti infantry as a bonus there. Medics can be considered anti infantry if you want but assaults still have a purpose regardless

[granite wyvern]

How did I cry? I was stating a fact

[random blade]

it's only an issue if the assaults are the infantry killers and medic weapons take over that role

which I don't consider to be the case

[granite wyvern]

I have 130,000 kills as medic in BFV

[warm quest]

This chat is why battlefield games have no concurent players

[solid hinge]

No, you were stating that medics are good in cqc in bf5 which is literally their role because they wouldn't be able to heal or revive otherwise

[solid hinge]

I mean, more like why bf2042 is dead in the water

[warm quest]

it wont kill you to help a new player out

[granite wyvern]

Arguably in BFV the SMGs are as deadly as the ARs

[solid hinge]

but let's just ignore that and pretend 2042 is better designed overall then bf1, bf5 or even bf4

[random blade]

we are just so immersed in the conversation, that's all.

But I don't use a controller so I couldn't help anyway

[warm quest]

i havent played any of them

im trying to get into it but i cant use a godam virtual controller

[solid hinge]

they literally said assault is designed as a tank killer and that's why ARs aren't as strong against infantry in that game

You basically have no understanding of game design as a player and it shows

[warm quest]

The game desnt support playstation controllers and doesnt allow me to emulate an xbox one

[solid hinge]

i'm done, thanks movement for the talk

[granite wyvern]

What a loser. Hopefully Dice are focusing on important things like persistent servers & server browser

[teal fractal]

better designed in what

id agree that 2042 is visually muuuuch better designed than 5

and has better audio design

[solid hinge]

tell me i didn't just read that

Please, tell me I didn't basically just read "bf2042 is more immersive than bf5 and has better audio and graphics"

[teal fractal]

but 2042 lacks in just game

[teal fractal]

?

[solid hinge]

You gotta be kidding

[teal fractal]

tell me you cant read because no one was talking about immersion

[solid hinge]

The point of sound design in battlefield is to immerse the player in the action (again, nothing to do with realism itself)

so by stating that you basically just said that which I summed up for you

[teal fractal]

5 is pretty horrible interms of visuals because it destroys gameplay with how bad the visibility is

which has been nutoriously bad since release

[solid hinge]

aight I'm done man this chat is completely bonkers

I really hope they decide to take advice from you and that other guy

[teal fractal]

2042 has great audio design lol

[solid hinge]

I'm gonna be having fun reading the "bf6 is dead" posts

[granite wyvern]

The average IQ level should triple once you leave

[solid hinge]

You're just mad you have no understanding in what makes a game feel good to play and balanced

[granite wyvern]

Oh God, he’s still typing

[granite wyvern]

You have no idea about me. I run a massive BF community

[teal fractal]

?

[solid hinge]

There you go you just had to say it

[teal fractal]

How does immersion help with game balance

[solid hinge]

Now it shows why you think so highly of yourself

[solid hinge]

No I mean that other guy not you

Mister facebook group admin

People latch onto whatever keeps them grounded I guess

[granite wyvern]

You’re the one stating your opinion as ‘facts’ that’s what brought me to the conversation - your arrogance

[solid hinge]

No mine are proven

Crying because you die to a class often isn't a fact

[granite wyvern]

I play Medic - we have already covered this

[solid hinge]

Again, you didn't bother to read the whole conversation so I am not going to bother with you

[granite wyvern]

Neither did you it seems

[solid hinge]

You joined midway so I did

[teal fractal]

Hes not 100% wrong on some of his points but hes pretty clueless in some

[solid hinge]

This guy literally brought the "I have a community" as an argument from authority which in this case is the biggest strawman you could even bring to the table

[granite wyvern]

You literally said everyone who disagrees with you is wrong……

[teal fractal]

On what point

[solid hinge]

I mean true, they said medics are powerful against infantry, my answer to that : It is their role in bf5 because assault isn't designed as an infantry killer first

[teal fractal]

Im talking about you

[solid hinge]

You joined midway too and your first message is you understanding the term "design" as purely graphical and sound

Literally your first interaction in this conversation is flawed

[teal fractal]

No

[solid hinge]

I understand why this chat is dead half the time and the rest of the time it's just people asking how to fix bugs

[teal fractal]

I only gave 2 aspects of design which 2042 had improved over in 5

[solid hinge]

First interaction

you understood "designed" as graphics and sound

[teal fractal]

Yeah i was asking for different design aspects

[solid hinge]

I was talking about gameplay

so you basically didn't read the previous messages

There's nothing wrong with that

just don't try to add into it

[teal fractal]

I was also talking about gameplay

Infact i even noted out that battlefield 5 was ass to play because the visibility of that game was so bad

[solid hinge]

you : id agree that 2042 is visually muuuuch better designed than 5
and has better audio design

you right after : but 2042 lacks in just game

You literally contradicted yourself in two messages back to back

[teal fractal]

?

[solid hinge]

so either you were talking about gameplay and just have goldfish memory of your own thoughts

[teal fractal]

Condradicted myself how

[solid hinge]

or you were talking about graphical and sound and nothing more because you didn't read or didn't understand the point being made

why am I even bothering

[teal fractal]

what are you waffling about lol

ok lets rerun what was the point you made

[unique drum]

This conversation will lead nowhere, everyone will stuck to their positions^^

[wise steppe]

are u able to play battlefield labs?

[solid hinge]

The fact I have to pull up your own messages and print them out here is just disheartening

[teal fractal]

the fact that you cant read is the sad part about it lol

[solid hinge]

It's not even about my position on guns in bf6 anymore, this is literally about proving they don't have a single clue what the f I was talking about because they couldn't bother to read

[solid hinge]

The history is there, I rest my case, your own messages

[teal fractal]

i bring up 2 design elements from 1 game that were an improvement over the previous

which are all btw gameplay affecting elements

[solid hinge]

You LITERALLY said bf2042 was better in game design then INSTANTLY after say it lacks in gameplay in comparison

[teal fractal]

i didnt talk about 5s gunplay, movemnet, maps, menus, UI, vehicle gameplay

[random blade]

The context behind ‘better designed’ is behind classes and weapon distribution, as deduced by the hour long conversation before

[teal fractal]

where did i say that it was better ingame design

[solid hinge]

READ your OWN messages IN ORDER 🤣

I understand why school systems are failing now

[teal fractal]

you cant read it seems

VISUALLY much better designed

[solid hinge]

AHAH

so i was right

you were understand graphical and sound instead of gameplay

[teal fractal]

right in what

[solid hinge]

Okay this guy is trolling

[teal fractal]

you stated that i said that 2042s game design was better than 5s

when i stated that 2042s visual design was better than 5s

i didnt talk about any other aspect aside from visuals within that statement

[solid hinge]

Not to pull you into this but didn't I literally say they either understood the wrong thing or contradicted themselves ?

[random blade]

Well when we were talking specifically about class and weapon design, bringing up visual and audio design was just sorta irrelevant

[teal fractal]

youre still failing to show me where i condradicted myself

[solid hinge]

you : "I was also talking about gameplay"

[teal fractal]

reading takes skill and its skill that you dont have apparently

[solid hinge]

Your brain is failing you right now

[teal fractal]

yes

because VISUALS affect the way the game plays

[solid hinge]

.

[teal fractal]

5 sucks ass to play because the visibility is so bad

[solid hinge]

You are a lost cause

[teal fractal]

how can you not read i dont get it

[solid hinge]

You can read out what I printed out for you, no point in going on

You just didn't read and contradicted yourself

it's not worth it

[teal fractal]

VISUALS are a design aspect, i only talked about VISUALS as a design which directly affects gameplay

[solid hinge]

There's no point in trying to save face twisting the dialogue that occured

[teal fractal]

youre literally twisting the dialogue as we speak

[teal fractal]

firstly you state this (wrong btw, also nice condradiciton)

[solid hinge]

To put it simply, if this were a court case, it would end in half an hour

[teal fractal]

you dont understand how to read messages therefor youre making up things

visuals heavily impact gameplay

[granite wyvern]

You’re on a roll today 😂

[teal fractal]

yeah they would have to send you to a reading classes so you could actually be able to read

and understand what people write

keep telling yourself otherwise

[teal fractal]

imagine calling this a condradicition because you lack reading skills

💀

bro fr thought i was calling 2042 a better game when i was talking about 2 design elements 🥀

now to go read the entirety of chat and see what this guy talked about

[solid hinge]

so I was right ?

you : id agree that 2042 is visually muuuuch better designed than 5
and has better audio design

you right after : but 2042 lacks in just game

You literally contradicted yourself in two messages back to back
so either you were talking about gameplay and just have goldfish memory of your own thoughts

You didn't read

[fast bridge]

love how the arguement isn't going the way anyone wants so you're all devolving into personal insults

[teal fractal]

right in what

[solid hinge]

No it devolved into me just pulling up messages showing they just didn't bother reading and now they're just piling up on me because they can't do otherwise

[teal fractal]

i only read one statement that you said and responded to that by asking you "designed better in what aspects" then replied to that with "id agree that 2042 is visually muuuuch better designed than 5
and has better audio design"

[teal fractal]

.

responded to this btw

[solid hinge]

Oh so you agree you didn't read, got it

[teal fractal]

?

[solid hinge]

There's nothing wrong with that

[teal fractal]

battlefield community is so clueless its insane

glazing battlefield 5 when it has the worst visual design in the entire franchise

the worst gunplay design in the entire franchise

the worst audio design in the entire franchise

id also argue that the design for skins are worse

but thats more of a timeline thing

it makes sense to have some more goofier/edgier skins in a modern themed game

[scenic elm]

Outside of this i disagree with everything else

[solid hinge]

It's so bad it has twice the player count on steam alone compared to bf2042

[teal fractal]

i dont see why this matters lol

2042 has less players so therefor 5 has better visuals and audio design? its gunplay is good because it has more players?

[solid hinge]

"I don't understand why this much better game is almost dead in the water compared to this much worse game in every aspect"

[teal fractal]

like how does that matter

[teal fractal]

no youre trying to make an argument that 5 has more players therefor the design elements i listed are ignorable and dont matter purely because it has more players

just to completely avoid my point

what im saying is is that youre comparing garbage to shit

2042s gunplay is terrible, netcode is terrible, the class system is half-assed because its some weird makeshift class system they had to make up

you could say the game engine itself is bad because mouse input lags

[teal fractal]

you can diasgree but they are bad

[scenic elm]

Nope its Just your opinion

[teal fractal]

how will vsync improve mouse input lag thats engine level broken

[scenic elm]

The skins are crap tho

[teal fractal]

just shows how clueless you are

[solid hinge]

so we're taking advice from a guy that has vsync on and complains about input lag now ?

[teal fractal]

it isnt

[scenic elm]

It is

[teal fractal]

5s visuals were infact so bad that people made meme videos on playing hide and seek

btw

[scenic elm]

That is a skill issue

Unironicly

[teal fractal]

there were HUNDREDS of videos on the game about how bad the visibility was

[teal fractal]

any decent player knows full well how bad the visibility is stop coping about skill issue when your skill level is probably equally as high as those who made the videos

[scenic elm]

WAS they fixed the visibility later on

[teal fractal]

they really didnt

[solid hinge]

No bf2042 has much better visuals and the theme of two metal sheets hitting each other as music while only hearing footsteps is much better

[teal fractal]

they added glow which is barely visible

not much of a crazy fix

[scenic elm]

I never had issues with visibility

[solid hinge]

This entire interaction ended up culminating to a big skill issue on the user's end

[scenic elm]

It is a skill issue really

[teal fractal]

im a significally better player than probably the both of you combined

so yeah no i dont think theres any skill issue

[solid hinge]

keep in mind this guy has vsync on and complains about input lag

says enough

[scenic elm]

Lets not forget about the building mechanic and squad call ins, yup

[solid hinge]

the game runs butter smooth at 120 fps high on my end

[scenic elm]

BFV worst game ever omg !!!!!

Good movement mechanics

[solid hinge]

let me guess, this guy is trying to run this on his laptop's igpu too

[scenic elm]

The gunplay is Not bad

[teal fractal]

keep in mind that 2042 is engine level broken and has input lag not because of the ingame settings, not because of the fps, not because of vsync, not because of high ping but because the GAME ENGINE is broken

[solid hinge]

No, runs fine on my end

disable vsync

[teal fractal]

it doesnt

[solid hinge]

It does

[teal fractal]

youre just too garbage at the game to be able to tell

[granite wyvern]

Best movement ever

[solid hinge]

Now this guy is making up what I'm seeing on my pc

[teal fractal]

random recoil is a terrible design

[teal fractal]

im not

[solid hinge]

[scenic elm]

Its not as bad as you make it out to be

[solid hinge]

reading and remembering the last two seconds of his life isn't his forte

[scenic elm]

Most Guns don't even have much recoil

[teal fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039675770873851964/1395384340615004291/image.png?ex=687a406f&is=6878eeef&hm=7ae64deb6a2900e4c43cdfd8c2903c066f1694086747dccfef190e37f6139eff& this is dice admitting that they found out about the issue and guess whats still not fixed til this day

[solid hinge]

proceeds to say my pc can't run the game butter smooth when it in fact does

[teal fractal]

it is as bad as i make it out to be because the recoil is infact random

[teal fractal]

your game can run smooth, you still have mouse input bugs because its bugged within the game engine

[scenic elm]

It really is not that big of a deal

[teal fractal]

what i said was that youre too bad at the game to actually notice when theres input delay because you dont have any ability over mouse contorl and cant tell apart when theres lag and when there isnt

either that or you play on a controller

[solid hinge]

No it doesn't lag

[teal fractal]

which would make you even more delusional because i was talking about mouse input

[solid hinge]

no arguments left so let's attack that way

[teal fractal]

i posted this btw

i can also post videos sec

[solid hinge]

You are delusional

[scenic elm]

There is aparently input lag in 2042 on Mouse and keyboard because dice sayed it exists and they tried to fix it

He is right

[teal fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLE3_ehRRfc this is "after fix" and its still bad

[teal fractal]

this is an actual skilled player that actually knows what to look out for and how to aim and has good feel over their mouse and inputs they make

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imO4wBOW7o0&t=51s

this video was last year

til this day not fixed btw

damn dude went so silent now

thats 1 down

[teal fractal]

it really is that big of a deal because random recoil is uncontrollable, unmasterable

[solid hinge]

No i just decided wasting my time on someone as delusional as you is not worth it

[teal fractal]

youre calling me delusional after i posted a statement from dice that they will look into the bug which they havent fixed til this day and by proving it by 2 videos

keep coping

[solid hinge]

Cry more

[teal fractal]

why would i cry

youre spamming that im delusional whilist not being able to prove me otherwise

[solid hinge]

idk you tell me why you are

[teal fractal]

im not crying im just posting you 2 videos and a statement to dice to prove you wrong

i wouldnt call it crying

[solid hinge]

Louder

[teal fractal]

damn and he still cant make a good argument back

[solid hinge]

proceeds to ignore 30 minutes of conversation

[teal fractal]

what convo

[solid hinge]

see

[teal fractal]

point me to it

[solid hinge]

this guy is set on a 2 minute auto delete in their brains 🤣

[teal fractal]

i was legit doing other things

[solid hinge]

not even archive, straight to the trash bin

[teal fractal]

such as posting evidence of me proving that your claim on saying that 2042 mouse bug is not a real thing

[solid hinge]

you're*

[teal fractal]

so yes i wasnt reading whilist searching for videos and dice statements

[scenic elm]

Uncontrolleble no, unmastereble yes

[teal fractal]

makes 0 sense

[solid hinge]

again, sums up to "skill issue"

[teal fractal]

if it was controllable is masterable

[teal fractal]

"skill IssuE" but my stats are 3x of your stats

it is

[solid hinge]

cope

[teal fractal]

something controllable is something you can master

something that you cant control is something you cant master

[scenic elm]

You can control the recoill

[teal fractal]

you cant control random recoil and due to the fact that its random each time you fire your weapon its infact unmasterable

i know that you think your 0.6kpm skill level is so high to the point that you can predict the random recoil pattern each time you fire your weapon but truth nuke you arent and no one is

[scenic elm]

Ad hominem

[teal fractal]

also

on top of battlefield 5 having random recoil

the weapons are decoupled from screen center

[solid hinge]

another skill issue

[teal fractal]

so you cant even aim with screencenter

[scenic elm]

Anyways

[teal fractal]

and youre ignoring because you cant argue otherwise

[scenic elm]

Try playing red orchestra 2 where the same thing is the case

[solid hinge]

Bro couldn't use his monitor built in crosshair anymore so he'd rather cry about it than learn

[teal fractal]

the only skill issue here is you buddinsky

probably cheers from joy when he gets 30 kills in a game

"im so skilled rn 😎 "

[scenic elm]

None issue, allot of tacticall shooters have that

[solid hinge]

stop crying we know you're upset

[teal fractal]

battlefield is an arcade shooter game

a run and gun game

a respawn shooter even

[solid hinge]

how does that invalidate their statement 🤣

[scenic elm]

Red orchestra is a run and gun shooter

[teal fractal]

because its an element of realism in an arcade video game

and it doesnt work very well

[scenic elm]

It works fine

[solid hinge]

has nothing to do with realism you mongatron

[scenic elm]

Idk why anyone would complain about it

[teal fractal]

the fact that you play any other shooter better than 5 is self telling buddy

[solid hinge]

it's simple : it's easier to cry than learn to get used to something

[scenic elm]

Ad hominem

[teal fractal]

decoupled from screencenter means that your bullets go where your gun barrel is pointed towards

[solid hinge]

boo hoo

[limber bough]

Red orchestra 2 is pretty dead according to steamdb

[teal fractal]

how are all of your arguments so invalid and bad

[scenic elm]

Whats wrong with that

[solid hinge]

I have to aim differently in this different game

[scenic elm]

Tell me

[teal fractal]

because you cant effectively aim with screencenter

[solid hinge]

literally what's wrong is that they're not used to it so they just cry about it, doesn't go further than that man

[scenic elm]

Go play counter strike

None issue

[teal fractal]

im more used to it than you ever have been

its probably your first time ever even hearing about these things

[solid hinge]

awww angwy

[teal fractal]

its a none issue to not efficiently aim in a fps game?

[teal fractal]

no ones angry it was just a truth nuke

[solid hinge]

[teal fractal]

whats funnier is that youre the angry one here because youre perma spamming random insults instead of making proper coherent arguments

[scenic elm]

Oh no i need to play BFV difrently

[teal fractal]

either that or completely avoiding and ignoring everything ive stated

[solid hinge]

wouldn't you know huh

[scenic elm]

What horror

[teal fractal]

different in what way

[scenic elm]

You learn to play acordingly to the game mechanics

What else

[teal fractal]

you cant learn those mechanics btw

they are random

and btw im 3x better than you

so kinda weird of you to tell me to learn the game

[scenic elm]

I don't care who you are when your wrong

[teal fractal]

im not wrong

i am better than you

the game mechanics are bad

everyone decent knows that

but keep telling yourself "boo hoo"

[solid hinge]

🍭 lolipop for tough boy

[granite wyvern]

Exactly - that’s why the top players in BFV are consistently good

[digital quest]

guys why my battlefield crashes after clicking campaing

[teal fractal]

"ill just play with my shit mechanics because dice forced it into the game"

[scenic elm]

Bohooo i hate BFV

[granite wyvern]

Try the Campaign button instead 🥸

[teal fractal]

yeah thats the only thing youve been able to say

[scenic elm]

Go ahead keep telling your self that bud

[teal fractal]

can we get like coherent good points orr

[teal fractal]

i dont have to because thats quite literally the only thing youve been saying this entire time

[scenic elm]

Go to hell lmao

[teal fractal]

"boo hoo" "skill issue" over and over again

[solid hinge]

you're such a gangster

[teal fractal]

still no proper arguments

just spamming nonesense

[solid hinge]

[teal fractal]

waiting

[scenic elm]

You don't deserve good points because you had made none

[solid hinge]

this is so entertaining

[teal fractal]

i did

[solid hinge]

this guy's crashing out

[scenic elm]

Nah

[teal fractal]

where did i not make good points

random spread conversion to recoil is an insanely good mechanic in your mind?

which is a mechanic thats on top of your weapon recoil patterns

[scenic elm]

Oh no my casual arcade FPS has random recoil

[teal fractal]

you think that decoupling your point of aim is a good fps mechanic?

[scenic elm]

It is

Play ro2

[teal fractal]

it doesnt matter if its casual

[teal fractal]

why

[scenic elm]

It does

[teal fractal]

red orchestra? the 2006 video game?

ah heroes of stalingrad

[granite wyvern]

According to stats, he’s not even played BFV on his main account

[scenic elm]

Dude be like decoupiling point of AIM is baaaad untill a level 99 MG42 dude hip fires him from 300 meters in RO2

[limber bough]

The game he's talking about is borderline dead btw

[solid hinge]

would explain why his youtube channel is only bf1

bro couldn't afford bf5 and bf2042 on sale

[scenic elm]

It has servers with players on it so il play it and you can't stop me

[limber bough]

🤷‍♂️ just an observation

[teal fractal]

ive linked it several times

same account just go bf5 tab

[teal fractal]

thats weapon balance issue btw

[solid hinge]

bro links a random profile while the proofs are on youtube

[teal fractal]

?

its my account that i can log into right now

[scenic elm]

The point of aim is decoupled and its a skill you have to learn to hipfire

[teal fractal]

stop being dumb

[sick zinc]

Guys it's a video game not an actual war so why are you going at if for the last hour? It ain't that deep!

[solid hinge]

takes one to know one huh

[teal fractal]

its not a skillful mechanic when you cant control the point your gun barrel is aimed towards

[scenic elm]

It is and your wrong

[teal fractal]

im not

[scenic elm]

You never played a game that does it right

[teal fractal]

because if it was id know

[teal fractal]

so bf5 didnt do it right?

[solid hinge]

this guy's entire arguments so far have been "i'd know cause I am skilled at the game"

[scenic elm]

I did not sayyyyy that

[teal fractal]

you just did

[scenic elm]

[solid hinge]

No because you haven't played bf5 clearly which is implied in their messages

[teal fractal]

"you never played a game that does it right" but ive played 5 that did it

[solid hinge]

learn to read

[teal fractal]

i have

[solid hinge]

and bf5 does it right

[scenic elm]

I did not say that

I sayed its a none issue, not that its good or bad

[teal fractal]

nah

[solid hinge]

ya

[teal fractal]

thats why it will never be a mechanic in battlefield again

damn

silent asf

[teal fractal]

its an issue if your bullets dont go to the point youre aiming at

[solid hinge]

skill issue, learn to aim

[teal fractal]

30% accuraccy

[solid hinge]

just learn

not that hard

take some time

[scenic elm]

Oh no how terrible ! Anyways

[teal fractal]

if its not that hard then why are you so bad at the game

[solid hinge]

bro projecting

[scenic elm]

Ad hominem

[teal fractal]

nah

just posted my stats

wheres yours

[solid hinge]

links random profile, plays only bf1 on youtube, calls others bad

[teal fractal]

its my profile

[solid hinge]

cries about not being capable of hitting enemies cause of skill issue

[scenic elm]

That explains everything about this guy

[teal fractal]

i have 30% accuraccy

[solid hinge]

basically yeah

guy can't even read and forgets all messages after two minutes

[scenic elm]

Show me your BF2 stats boy

[solid hinge]

bro searching another random profile for that

[teal fractal]

i can quite literally log into that account

[solid hinge]

anyway that was a fun conversation

[teal fractal]

i can quite literally even play on that account

[solid hinge]

for the future i'd recommend you to stop crying and get good

peace

[teal fractal]

why are you talking to yourself

i wonder what archimonks stats are

probs something below 1kpm

[solid hinge]

3rd grader "mirror" comeback

[scenic elm]

Anyways, lets talk about how dogshit the BF1 gunplay is

[teal fractal]

"3rd grader "mirror" comeback "

[solid hinge]

bro not beating the brainrot gen alpha allegations

[scenic elm]

And tanks

And airplanes

[teal fractal]

bf1s gunplay is decent

[scenic elm]

Nah it sucks

[teal fractal]

controllable spread, suppression is ass, bullets go where you aim towards

[solid hinge]

you'd know since that's the only bf game you own

[teal fractal]

why

[teal fractal]

no

[solid hinge]

yes

[scenic elm]

It has visual recoil out the ass

[solid hinge]

[teal fractal]

yeah visual recoil is ass but its not crazy horrible

you can still aim with screencenter and hit your shots

[limber bough]

It's way over tuned for certain guns

[teal fractal]

i even made a video showing that its not as bad as people say it is

[scenic elm]

Nah its as bad as people say

The visibility is baaaad

[teal fractal]

you can quite literally look at my videos on assault weapons and medic ones

[scenic elm]

Like in BF3

[teal fractal]

?

you can actively spot everything?

[scenic elm]

BFV had better visibility

[teal fractal]

what

[scenic elm]

What if you you don't have 20 scouts on your team spaming flares

[teal fractal]

i dont need them

[scenic elm]

And everyone lost there Q key

[teal fractal]

because theres 100s of other ques aside from scout flare spots

[scenic elm]

[teal fractal]

i dont need to press Q either

[digital quest]

guys why my bf closes after clicking campaign

[scenic elm]

Also if you put brightness on 0

[teal fractal]

why would you put it to a 0

can you make coherent arguments thanks

[granite wyvern]

That is not his main account (if his at all)

[teal fractal]

it is and i can log into it right now

[scenic elm]

Nah Im Just fucking with you, But serously BFV has decent visibility, BF3 and hardline has way worse

[teal fractal]

do i need to record myself logging into it or are screenshots fine

[teal fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADM5bb_CiVk&t=284s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj5mPuShilg

[scenic elm]

Im not going to watch some cherry picked BS

[granite wyvern]

His main account:-

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/profile/origin/I_Pickle_You/overview

[solid hinge]

would you watch some apple picked BS instead ?

bf5 "404 player not found"

bro buying a random account as we speak to pretend

bro editing the html css of the website

[sacred sparrow]

@teal fractal careful with the amount of links, due to the scamming messages the bot is sensitive.

removed your timeout.

[teal fractal]

thank you

[teal fractal]

youre posting an account which is my steam account, when i have battlefield 5 bought on my EA account which is the one i sent in

[scenic elm]

Why for the love of god do you have two EA accounts lol

[teal fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039675770873851964/1395399778644394095/image.png?ex=687a4ed0&is=6878fd50&hm=5f4141ff80aa7ca6777261d2d91cd13a316c137e629bc24b4a4e85dba8e60f07& like idk i can post my ea app page aswell if you really need to investigate that deeply but

[teal fractal]

i just told you that i have a steam account and an EA account

and its because i got bf5 for 50 cents like several years ago from eneba for EA account

[solid hinge]

26h playtime on bf5, even if that was your account this is pathetic with how much you'e insisting you're good at it

and it's not

[scenic elm]

You can have an EA accout with Steam BF and games bought with the EA launcher

[teal fractal]

why does my playtime matter

[solid hinge]

[scenic elm]

26 hours !?

[teal fractal]

my stats are within top 100

[scenic elm]

Is that a joke

[teal fractal]

well not anymore they dropped down

but still

[scenic elm]

I have 1000+ lol

[solid hinge]

the k/d don't even remotely match on the two accounts

[teal fractal]

ye but you need to do some weird login for that

[teal fractal]

?

[scenic elm]

NO lmao

[solid hinge]

sounds like someone has been experimenting with toggling

which is why they made a secondary account

[teal fractal]

i dont even have bf5 on my other account

[solid hinge]

I'm talking about bf1 you mongatron

[scenic elm]

26 hours ? Opinion ignored

[teal fractal]

or are you comparing like 2019 bf1 stats to more current bf5 stats?

[solid hinge]

no, both bf1 because you own it on both

[teal fractal]

its like 1kd'ish lower

[solid hinge]

bro bought bf1 again to hide it

[teal fractal]

youre comparing stats from the moment i bought the game from 2018 or 2019 when i had a bad pc to current time stats when i have more skill and a significally better pc

[teal fractal]

hide what

[solid hinge]

sure

[teal fractal]

are you calling me a cheater lol

[granite wyvern]

Yeah he’s created a second account to buff his BF1 stats

[scenic elm]

Kinda sus

[teal fractal]

whats sus

[scenic elm]

Also the stat braging

[solid hinge]

[granite wyvern]

Lots of sweats do this

[scenic elm]

No complaining about CHEATERS

[random blade]

real gamers show their progress by sticking to the same account 😎

[scenic elm]

In the game with a Cheater problem

[teal fractal]

i have both public

[solid hinge]

and of course the username is a random string of characters

[teal fractal]

my current and the account from when i bought the game for the first time and put in few hundred hours from my worse pc

[solid hinge]

not even alters do this, they at least bother picking a name

[teal fractal]

its a random ea name that i got i just havent bothered to change it

[scenic elm]

Dude is complaining about Everything But BFVs largest problem while braging about his stats

That is SUS

[solid hinge]

can't afford a pc but wastes money on new copies of the same game on a different account

[teal fractal]

whats sus

[teal fractal]

?

[scenic elm]

You my good sir are SUS

[teal fractal]

i was 14 when i bought my first pc with my own money that i earned by doing part time jobs in the summer

[teal fractal]

why

[solid hinge]

bro lying about having worked in his life now 😭

when will it end

[teal fractal]

also the new copies are quite literally at most 2 euros

[solid hinge]

"lemme screenshot my paycheck" 🤓

[runic nymph]

what on earth is that picture

[solid hinge]

[teal fractal]

if you think thats insanely expensive and takes a lot of ressources and money to buy a 2 euro game on sale in steam then idk what to tell you man

[scenic elm]

You complain about Everything in BFV But NOT about the massive cheater issue

You brag about stats

[solid hinge]

kinda sus if you ask me idk

[teal fractal]

youre also calling me a cheater when i have videos uploaded where i play at 4ish kpm at like 3-4kd in battlefield 1 so idk go report them to ea if you think im cheating