battlefield-legacy-titles

[teal fractal]

Battlefield 4 Region status
Total
54 servers
1354 players
31 in queue
4 spectators
for xbox

[subtle spear]

Steam charts alone says 7200 players are currently playing bfv

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oh 5

[subtle spear]

Steam charts says 3400 for BF4

So it's still well played

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Total
75 servers
1662 players
65 in queue
3 spectators

playstation

Total
356 servers
3204 players
97 in queue
0 spectators pc

[subtle spear]

Ngl if BF6 ends up being BF4 2.0 I will never ever play another shooter... As long as it's just as goofy and rage inducing as BF4

[teal fractal]

itll be at 2k soon because eu servers are about to die

[subtle spear]

Well I play NA, and I only play 2 servers. And for some reason they're always popping

[teal fractal]

this is steam and through ea play so idk what steam charts are capping about

also pc uses fake server member counts

[subtle spear]

Three servers

[subtle spear]

Ah well

My three servers are very well populated

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Total
71 servers
2452 players
62 in queue
12 spectators bf5 pc current

[subtle spear]

Hardcore TDM server
Hardcore 24/7 metro conquest server
Hardcore DLC only conquest server

This is all I play

[topaz ocean]

hardcore is fun, hope the server browser is more of a first class citizen in 6, not tied in with that portal weirdness

2042 launch was ridiculous, devs on twitter saying portal would have full progression, then they release it and it doesn't for ages 🙄

[subtle spear]

Hardcore is all I play. Core is wildly unbalanced

You shouldn't be able to survive a CheyTac .407 to the chest

[topaz ocean]

i do a mix of both, HC is very fun though, hope progression is enabled in HC servers on 6

[subtle spear]

Is it not in 2042?

[topaz ocean]

i'm not sure

[subtle spear]

Oof

[topaz ocean]

don't believe it was initially at least, there's a limit to what settings could be changed and still have progression

[subtle spear]

Tbh I honestly prefer BF4 over 2042

2042 has good gunplay but I despise the atmosphere and the movement

[topaz ocean]

4 did a lot right, 2042 does have a very weird atmosphere, excited to see some of the movement updates they added in V coming back in 6

[subtle spear]

They did what Black Ops II did. Making the near future far more dystopian than it actually is

[topaz ocean]

ledge climb on its own keybind and landing roll to reduce fall damage

[subtle spear]

Like, Black Ops II was supposed to be this year. Is it actually like that? No

[topaz ocean]

i just hated the character's voice lines in the menu

bf has never had much of a story element for me

[grim yoke]

Please tell me the new BF is going to have a server browser.

[topaz ocean]

subreddit says yes - idk if that's direct knowledge from the current alpha builds or not
don't know if it will let you browser all servers, or just "portal" servers like 2042 though

[grim yoke]

Portal only servers didnt make sense lol. Its in the game so why not have it for the main game? I never understood that lol

[topaz ocean]

1/V did fine with quickjoin for the zoomers, and still including a server browser but they need to stop hiding the browser behind multiple menus

[errant pebble]

hopefully no bots in new BF

[topaz ocean]

The 2042 servers weren't persistent, you get booted to the menu after every round on a non-portal server.That setup means browsing for normal servers wouldn't work great.

[grim yoke]

Isnt that only because 2042s foundation as a Battle Royale didnt work for servers? It couldnt have been a design choice from the get go

[topaz ocean]

Just the most bizarre decision from a community-building standpoint. Must have been a holdover from their battle royale phase. 🤮

[topaz ocean]

yeah for sure

[tidal shuttle]

also make it easier to find games with custom settings … like hc in quick-match

[grim yoke]

Yeah otherwise it doesnt make logical sense haha

[tidal shuttle]

Makes it easier to fill lobbies

[topaz ocean]

0 sense

Battle Royale was such a weird decision, why bother trend chasing in a game series that has always been the underdog title relative to monsters like CoD, CS. Focus on what makes you different, and help your community who loves the games come together on persistent servers.

And that was after Firestorm had already crashed and burned.

[tidal shuttle]

hazard zone was doa man it wasn’t bf

[topaz ocean]

say it louder for the kids in back

[grim yoke]

At least they got the message to not do that again. The new game looks incredible

I just hope they tone down the squad abilities. Some of them seem way too powerful like CoD perks

[topaz ocean]

character abilities?

[grim yoke]

I dunno if we can talk about leaked stuff here or not

[tidal shuttle]

if they wanna add bots and ai that badly to the game

Do it thru the test range

[topaz ocean]

oh, i haven't even seen those if they're in 6 yet, who knows

[grim yoke]

Theres no way they add bots. Delta Force tried and everyone got so mad they removed them very quickly haha

[tidal shuttle]

or firing range have lil bots run around it can be warm up to practice aim or test damage

[grim yoke]

Although an offline mode with bots for new players would be fine

[topaz ocean]

the refractor engine games had SP bots and they were fine, having them in multiplayer is odd though

[tidal shuttle]

Just becuase they had them in battlefront they thought it would work in 2042 environment

[teal fractal]

i cant play anything

im getting ddossed everywhere

[sterile jolt]

Bots are currently in Delta Force

They are in low pop regions

[grim yoke]

Oh dear god

Hopefully only cuz that game has barely anyone playing it

[teal fractal]

ddoss disconnected and then i get kicked on punkbuster

im losing my shit now

okay so

bf4 is garbage

noted

[subtle spear]

Scuse me

[tidal shuttle]

well tell dice to upgrade from dial up servers lol

[spare spindle]

anyone know how to toggle sprint on battlefield 3, bad company 2 and battlefield 2?

[subtle spear]

Left click on controllers. Shift on pc

[spare spindle]

yes but i have to hold down shift on these games. i want to only just press shift once

[teal fractal]

yeah no unplayable slop of a game

4th time kicked by punkbuster

crazy

and i have updated it i mind you

[spare spindle]

battlefield 4?

[tidal shuttle]

Put a piece of tape on your kb where your sprint input is

[teal fractal]

ye

[tidal shuttle]

Think smarter not harder🗿

[slate grail]

Firestorm was really cool actually, definetely one of the higher quality battle royale games of its era, but of course, for some strange reason, in typical EA fashion, it was fucked up by not being free to play

[verbal fable]

Does bfv has spotting? Ppl say to press q but i do on enemies and it does nothing

[tidal shuttle]

It’s like pubg spotting you just point to a direct spot

[verbal fable]

Worst thing about bfv... anyway ty, i dunno why they say press q at enemy since it doesn't spot them like overwatch

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no

[sterile jolt]

No

[tidal shuttle]

Lmao

use the flare gun

[sterile jolt]

2042 was better when it had no spotting 😛

[tidal shuttle]

it’ll spot them

[sterile jolt]

But people cried about it so they brought it back 😭

[teal fractal]

5 is one game that i feel like should have spotting

the player models are so weird

i tried changing my resses and fovs and i just can not see shit

[verbal fable]

nooo , i love 2042 spotting... generally every feature it has

[teal fractal]

its like small ants running around when they are further 30 meter range

[verbal fable]

I can't tell enemies.. Can't see the enemies on some maps

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and since they look so small they also stand out far less from the background

bf5 has by far the worst visibility of any battlefield game

[verbal fable]

indeed

not my best purchase

[sterile jolt]

I hate spotting because it distrupts my flanks

[verbal fable]

played a match now , ended 3-12 xD

[verbal fable]

Well, in my eyes , battlefield = spotting

[sterile jolt]

Extremely noticable when you are spotted too, you generally receive fire from 20 different directions in 2 miliseconds after you're spotted

[sterile jolt]

Bad game design

No other shooter has spotting

[summer forge]

Spotting is a thing for battlefield

Cry

[sterile jolt]

Shouldn't be

[summer forge]

Also, going is a boring night for BF V. Other team won’t even play

[sterile jolt]

Say no to dorito hunts

[summer forge]

Say yes

[teal fractal]

idk

its not something that would impact a game like 42,4 or 1 because their visibility is pretty good within itself

[sterile jolt]

It impacts gameplay for me

[teal fractal]

but at the same time i feel like for some turbonerd headglitch players in some 5head position just deserve to be spotted

[sterile jolt]

Can't flank unless I flank from the edge of the map

[summer forge]

For you

[teal fractal]

yeah timing is pretty important because of that

idk bf5 is just a horrible game in so many ways

[sterile jolt]

Flanking was just easier in BFV because players couldn't ''wallhack'' me behind a smoke

Throw 2 smokes and you are behind enemy cover anyways

[open saffron]

I always wondered. Why is it called a randezook?

[teal fractal]

i wouldnt even smoke

[subtle spear]

Another reason I play hardcore. Spotting is useless, unless you want the assist points

[teal fractal]

i think bf42s spot system of aiming at the target and seeing the marker is pretty fine

[subtle spear]

It's a mix of the words "rendezvous" and "bazooka"

[teal fractal]

but it doesnt exactly need a spotting system

because the visibility in 42 is actually insanely good

[subtle spear]

Because of the lighting lol

[open saffron]

Ohhhhhhhh. Have you ever done a randezook?

[sterile jolt]

Not only that but also player models has lights

[teal fractal]

so does 5 but 5s playermodels are just bad

[subtle spear]

The lighting is so god awful that you can hide in grass with a ghillie and are visible from hundreds of meters away

[subtle spear]

Nah

I don't pilot

[teal fractal]

ill go see if i can grab a screenshot on bf5 visibility

[open saffron]

I do. Wanna do a randezook one day.

[subtle spear]

Nice

[sterile jolt]

BF6 doesn't seem to need 3D spotting either tbh, it's geometrically very ''rigid''

[subtle spear]

But yeah, I much prefer BF1 and BF4 lighting

[open saffron]

I kinda don't wanna do it 2042 though just for the sake of making it more special lol

[subtle spear]

At least you can hide

[sterile jolt]

BFV wasn't gemoterically that rigid, you could hide in the rubble

[subtle spear]

BF1 and 4 had great hiding spots

everywhere

Because the lighting was that good

[open saffron]

Which BF game was the most chaotic of the bunch?

[subtle spear]

Probably BF1

[teal fractal]

i also feel like bf5s optical sights holos arent thick enough so you cant really see the holo

[sterile jolt]

2042

[subtle spear]

Because of the setting and the way the maps were designed

[sterile jolt]

You can change the color

I was using a purple nydar most of the time

[teal fractal]

i cant change the thickness

[subtle spear]

Nah BF1 is insanely chaotic, but it's the lawful chaotic of battlefields, because it's intended to be that way

[sterile jolt]

128 player modes in 2042 are pure chaos

[teal fractal]

bf1 is only chaotic because people do nothing but spam G

[open saffron]

Fair. Bf1 was so insane. First time I played I was cowering in a crater while a bullet storm was above me. And then I died by a dreadnought lol

[subtle spear]

Now imagine 128 player BF1 with double vehicle spawns

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aka grenades

[sterile jolt]

Even 64 player modes since map design doesn't exist in 2042

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horrible

[subtle spear]

Not in my experience? It's certainly the most cinematic

[teal fractal]

they might aswell been 20v20 modes because the maps were so large

[subtle spear]

Realistic. WW1 was a war of attrition
Body counts won battles

[teal fractal]

its gadget spam shitfest

[sterile jolt]

Frontlines is 20v20 but it should be 40v40 honestly

[teal fractal]

people prone around and do nothing for most of the game

[teal fractal]

no

[subtle spear]

Not from what I've played. I see gadgets being used as intended, but not excessively

[open saffron]

I don't think I've ever encountered a 128 mode. That's a thing?

[teal fractal]

20v20 is fine

[subtle spear]

The only thing I saw a lot of were APLMs

[sterile jolt]

32v32 then

[teal fractal]

no

32v32 is also pretty bad

[subtle spear]

Not in BF1, I was just suggesting it

[sterile jolt]

32v32 Frontlines is just more fun

[teal fractal]

its been done before in older bf games

[sterile jolt]

40v40 would make it even more fun

[teal fractal]

if its a balanced game then it becomes a game of no one capping or advancing to any side

[sterile jolt]

2 more squads each team anyways

[open saffron]

No no. I know. I was referring to BF42

[subtle spear]

It's only on next Gen consoles and pc

[sterile jolt]

I never cared about frontlines before 2042 honestly

2042 did make game modes good imo

[open saffron]

;-;

[teal fractal]

1 team is full capped on 1 flag constantly and the other is full capped on the other

so it just becomes slow and boring

[subtle spear]

Sorry. PS4 and Xbone are limited to 64 player battles

[open saffron]

Awww

[subtle spear]

I agree. It's why I only played conquest, and I hog the wildcats

[open saffron]

God I need a ps5 ;-;

[subtle spear]

Anyone else think the wildcats should be buffed against infantry?

[teal fractal]

also completely takes away the impact of frags because you can kill 13 players but they still have a ton of players left and they just get revived

and since

frags lose impactfulness

[sterile jolt]

Be glad you don't need to experience that tbf

[teal fractal]

your team mostlikely will never advance

because they dont think about alternative routes

[subtle spear]

Wildcat needs a buff imo

[open saffron]

Oh?

[subtle spear]

The Wildcat is so god awful at killing infantry that it's just.... Sad

[sterile jolt]

You become anonymous in 128 matches, 1 good player or 1 good squad can't change the battle at all

[teal fractal]

the only mode thats 128 players is rush xl currently

[sterile jolt]

I only win in 128 Rush because my team as a whole decides to lock in

[teal fractal]

and majority of players play cqc or 64p cq

[subtle spear]

128 player rush sounds horrible

A wall of bodies

[teal fractal]

its just apes throwing nades

for 30 minutes

no gameplay

[subtle spear]

Now imagine 128p metro

[open saffron]

I just want the chaos back tbh 😔

[sterile jolt]

128 rush is good for LMG tier 1 farming 🤣

But I already T1'd LMGs so I don't need to play it

[open saffron]

I hope BF6 will have a good balance of chaos n all

[teal fractal]

okay nice bf5 servers arent dead yet

[subtle spear]

I farm with LMGs on BF4 all the time

Specifically the RPK

Because it's literally cracked

[open saffron]

Aight imma dip

[teal fractal]

actually insane

first game where im not spawn trapped and dont have to play against a stack i went 3kpm 5kd

[summer forge]

Well tonight was mostly boring on V lol

Last game though our team was almost no help but still pulled out a win 6-0

All wins and best squad

[subtle spear]

I have a suggestion for BF6 boats

Instead of the RVB, use the 90H AMOS

Funny meme boat

[teal fractal]

every match is spawn trapped instantly

insane

i dont know how they managed to mess up match balance so bad in 5

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093559356966043728/1353907737372659755/image.png?ex=67e35c56&is=67e20ad6&hm=098c41f881a999fb91304dc863aa0f538c73cbfd66ab1e24827c2b5187e4199f& anyway heres an image on how bad the bf5 visibility is

on top of barely being able to even see the body of the player you are crippled by random recoil

[summer forge]

Marita?

[teal fractal]

idk the maps

[summer forge]

Of course you don’t 😂🤦‍♂️

I just aim for the red icon in your image

Sometimes I wonder how you’re still playing Battlefield lol

[tidal shuttle]

I wish bf4 wouldn’t look so grain even on newer gens id hella go back if they looked crisper and cleaner

[teal fractal]

that would work if the aim was center fixated

but you cant exactly aim at the dot

because the recoil of your weapon is random and just outright uncontrollable for that reason

you cant predict what it does

itll either

sway left

sway right

or go up or diagonal patterns

[teal fractal]

the point of the image was to show how bad the bf5s visibility is

without the dot id have 0 clue

[tidal shuttle]

Let me see this image

Dead blueberry not PTFOing

Crigne

[zinc snow]

werd

[tidal shuttle]

😂

[heady flax]

Can battlefield finally stop treating gamers like toddlers by limiting attachments on weapons? They act as if having the standard laser, light, grip, and suppressor makes your weapon a god gun. Please. You still got to be able to aim, period. Pretty much every shooter has this capability except for BF.

[teal fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093559356966043728/1353919018968289341/image.png?ex=67e366d8&is=67e21558&hm=84be1e479ce04040b211a256b750c8836aee7d5a49d0a3fd9a1d5f5d9119b196& this is a little more clear image

id never see that garbage rat in that corner if it werent for the spot

[plain seal]

Can I get help staring a game on battlefield 1? I need to win a operations game

[tidal shuttle]

I think they did that cus mfs would make their primary inherently worse

By adding the wrong attachments

[open saffron]

Something I find funny about CoD is that they could've done some crossovers with Battlefield or maybe even raindbow Six Seige. But they loterally did EVERYTHING but another fps crossover 😔

[summer forge]

I just tap fire to help maintain recoil control

[solar nexus]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/battlefield-6-boss-discusses-leaks-and-how-fan-feedback-isnt-everything/1100-6530304/

[summer forge]

Well gamers act like toddlers majority of the time anyway

[teal fractal]

tapfire..?

what

[solar nexus]

https://youtu.be/QfIbE9IhBdU?si=XLnDxWtlu7nXjdbg

[teal fractal]

youd contest 0 gunfights with tapfiring in bf5

above 3kpm is difficult in 5 but i cant really understand why

2-3 is pretty easy but 4 and above youre just playing hide and seek trying to find people

[fast cloak]

I hate the AI teammates in this game so much, it's unreal

Especially when you are trying to use a vehicle

[summer forge]

For us controller users it means tapping the trigger instead of just holding it down every time

Helps manually manage recoil control in game

[teal fractal]

but idk its cancer some maps are too big

[teal fractal]

i know what tapfire is

i just cant see people winning any fights with tapfiring

[summer forge]

We do frequently

Just remember this… two completely different regions on two completely different platforms

[teal fractal]

i dont see what region has to do with tapfiring or not tapfiring

i also highly doubt that any higher kpm players tapfire smgs

[summer forge]

We don’t have high kpm players here anyways lol

Or if we do it’s barely

I was rap firing the type 100 a LOT tonight

Got to after a certain distance to kill anyone

[teal fractal]

theres 2 4kpm console players

top 100 is 2.6kpm range if we were to just go by overall stats

[summer forge]

100 out of 2000+

So we’re looking at little over 5% of players

[teal fractal]

? what

[teal fractal]

there were 13-14 million copies sold

if we assume that mostly all of them played multiplayer

then thats top 100 out of 13 million people

[summer forge]

I was going off of currently player count. Iirc you said recently was like 2000+/-

[teal fractal]

why current

the leaderboards are all time players

lol

the top 100 players on the list might not even play the game anymore

[summer forge]

🤦‍♂️ fine. 100 players out of 13 million

Then a small percentage of NA console players are good average and the rest are garbage

[topaz ocean]

shouldn't balance around console anyways

[summer forge]

Still use tap fire lol

[summer forge]

Scroll up, this conversation was literally about using tap on console

[teal fractal]

? what

[summer forge]

In NA

[summer forge]

Now what? 🤦‍♂️

[teal fractal]

.

[teal fractal]

.

[summer forge]

Oh yay, 2 players

Why in the world are we doing all this just to prove wether tap fire is used or not 😂

It’s used 🤷‍♂️

[teal fractal]

counted like 21 console players within top 100

[teal fractal]

because we arent even discussing tap fire

1.8kpm is 100th place on xbox

2kpm is 100th on playstation

pretty interesting tbh

[summer forge]

You literally started it with this

[summer forge]

And this

[teal fractal]

.

second time noting this out

[summer forge]

And I understood the correction

[teal fractal]

i dont even care if you tapfire im just looking at leaderboards out of own interest

[summer forge]

Are European minds really this literal? Do y’all only think in literal context?

[tidal shuttle]

Wat we yapping about now

Kd for the millionth time?

[teal fractal]

eu dominates console aswell pretty hard

[summer forge]

Always

[teal fractal]

im just looking at leaderboards

[summer forge]

It’s all he ever talks about, that and kpm

[summer forge]

Yea we’ve talked about this

Our “great” is your “trash”

[tidal shuttle]

Ah yes leaderboards

I haven’t paid att to that since evil carlos

[teal fractal]

chinese players are actually blessed with bf5 servers it looks like

[summer forge]

Played 5 games tonight, 4 were a steamroll and last one was tight at 6-0

[teal fractal]

wait nvm

[tidal shuttle]

Cus mfs are ass

[teal fractal]

top 3 stats are farmed

[summer forge]

You should’ve seen the other team on the first 4 games. They didn’t even play. Garbage scores

[teal fractal]

top 4 is a cheater

top 5 player plays some weird lobbies with everyone neg kd

but theres 1 4kd player

on the opposite team

so idk

still farmed

shootBF i actually know

and i dont see how he gets 4kpm in this game i played against him once in 5

ye a lot of his recents are pretty bad

[tidal shuttle]

Once dice gets their shietza together and makes game we all know they are capable of making I’ll take it more seriously

Rn it’s a meme

[teal fractal]

so around 2-3kpm is pretty insane in 5 apparently lol

i think its purely because the maps are just way too big and the plays are way too slow in 5

and a lot of the lobbies are pretty bad

[summer forge]

For you maybe

[teal fractal]

most of the high kpm players are just stack bots aswell

[teal fractal]

i mean you can look at older battlefield titles

[summer forge]

This part is definitely true

[summer forge]

Yea and tell me way Gulmod Highway is literally one of the most popular outside of Locker

[teal fractal]

did you just reply for you maybe and then reply this part is definitely true to the same message

[teal fractal]

i meant kpms

[summer forge]

Two different statements so two different replies

[teal fractal]

theres a lot more gameplay going on in older battlefield games

way less downtime

its practically 2-3x the kpms in older titles

[sonic gate]

Bro you guys missed it. On stream.we dropped 158 kills in a single game infantry only

It was nuts

[summer forge]

So what will you do with your precious kpm if 6 turns out to be the speed of 5?

[teal fractal]

i wont play it if it plays out like 5

[topaz ocean]

i have 3kpm in the ju88 🙏

[teal fractal]

itll be dogshit

42 has much more fun gameplay

[summer forge]

Farming for kpm is definitely more fun

[teal fractal]

i hope its like a rework of what 42 had

[teal fractal]

ye because you have more going on

its a shooter game i want to shoot at people

not run around for 2 minutes to then kill 10 people and in 3 seconds and then run around for another few minutes

[summer forge]

Well ya heard it folks, we need to make BF more COD like for pickle here

[teal fractal]

absurdly boring gameplay loop

[tidal shuttle]

man junekrs pre nerf was generational

[summer forge]

Otherwise hes not having fun

[tidal shuttle]

take me back

[teal fractal]

?

[topaz ocean]

they're still great, but there were times where they were stupid good on breakthrough

[teal fractal]

how is battlefield in any way like cod

"it has slide so its cod movement remove it plsss"

😭

[summer forge]

2042 is faster paced than even 4

[teal fractal]

?????

what

no its not

[summer forge]

On console it definitely feels like it

[teal fractal]

4 is quite literally the fastest paced game out of 1,5 and 2042

well yes its console

everyones slow on any game there

[summer forge]

Do you ever actually give room to consider console actually f#cking exists?

[teal fractal]

okay

[summer forge]

Or is every statement just about PC to you?

[teal fractal]

i dont really care about console because the community is like

extremely small

irrelevant

and just meaningless

[topaz ocean]

You're just talking about 4 right?

[summer forge]

Well thank you for telling me I’m irrelevant and meaningless 🤣🤣

[teal fractal]

?

[teal fractal]

wdym

in what context

[summer forge]

I’m on console, you just said console community is irrelevant and meaningless.

Does that confuse you too?

Logic not strong there?

Lack of humor?

[teal fractal]

im not the epidome of evil and calling people meaningless because they play on console

[topaz ocean]

I've never seen numbers, but always thought the console player base was larger.

[teal fractal]

no

its much smaller

[summer forge]

It’s smaller. But hes EU on PC so we’re automatically inferior to him

[topaz ocean]

Well that's nice to hear. Why do we keep getting crappy console UI menus then? 🙄

I'm on PC too. Console is inferior.

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Total
220 servers
8397 players
166 in queue
11 spectators
current pc

Total
50 servers
1917 players
26 in queue
1 spectators
current xbox

bf1 btw

[summer forge]

Personal preference 🤷‍♂️

[teal fractal]

no

[topaz ocean]

For sure, if you're having fun more power to you. Not my preferred platform for shooters though. Never liked aiming with thumbs.

[teal fractal]

the players are objectively much worse

[tight rain]

Oh boy a console vs pc argument

[topaz ocean]

What game are those numbers for?

[teal fractal]

.

Battlefield 5 Region status
Total
120 servers
4324 players
25 in queue
53 spectators
PC

[summer forge]

MY personal preference you arrogant genius

[teal fractal]

Battlefield 5 Region status
Total
41 servers
1686 players
5 in queue
1 spectators
xbox

[summer forge]

Always with this guy

[topaz ocean]

Any idea about units sold? That's what's going to matter to the developers bottom line.

[teal fractal]

13-14 million copies on bf5

[tidal shuttle]

Yes the franchise is rip but bf6 will resurrect the homies

[teal fractal]

ngl its actually incredible that these games have any players

most of these bf like shooters have completely died out

[tidal shuttle]

well there is slop rn

[teal fractal]

after not recieving content

[tidal shuttle]

cod is dieing

[teal fractal]

battlebit is completely dead

delta force is about to die out

just launched

[tidal shuttle]

Bf6 to do the funniest thing

[summer forge]

Players still wanna shoot things 🤷‍♂️ even if we’re not at your pro 4-5 kpm skill level

[teal fractal]

?

[summer forge]

I’m starting to think Pickle is German lol

[teal fractal]

no just the things you say are really random and i dont really understand the point of what you mean

[teal fractal]

lol i just saw this

[summer forge]

This was a response to your comment on how the bf games are still active somehow

[teal fractal]

how is your personal preference related to console being inferior to pc as a system and as a userbase/gamers

i dont get it

[teal fractal]

the second comment after it was random and its not like there arent multiple other fps games

that are objectively better than battlefield games even

[summer forge]

Because you view it as inferior so you automatically assume that anyone on console is irrelevant. That’s how it always appears.

It’s not irrelevant, it’s personal preference what platform people play on.

[teal fractal]

okay

its still an inferior system

[summer forge]

Objectively maybe. Yet players still gravitate towards battlefield over those games. So subjectively it’s better apparently

[tidal shuttle]

As long as my blueberries are on point idc what they kpm is. Get on the mf flag

[summer forge]

I never said it wasnt when compared to PC. I just said it’s personal preference

[teal fractal]

they wont get on the flag without killing enemies 🦧

[tidal shuttle]

better than the ones that aren’t

[teal fractal]

then what are you waffling about

[summer forge]

Enjoying the show @topaz ocean

[tidal shuttle]

Or just in spawn

[topaz ocean]

Yes, this is an incredibly petty argument.

[summer forge]

Apparently Americans are known for petty 🤷‍♂️😂

Irritates the hell out of foreigners

[teal fractal]

true i guess more fun to play against aswell

[topaz ocean]

I unfortunately cannot argue with that. 🔫

[tidal shuttle]

ya man have fun

[summer forge]

European?

As in are you EU

[tidal shuttle]

well figure out the competition later I just want my bf back

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dog-snoop-dogg-rage-snoop-rage-look-at-this-gif-21857566

[teal fractal]

early new bf game will be fun

[topaz ocean]

USA

[summer forge]

Everyone is petty and the rednecks have guns 😂

Oh and we have way too much humor

[tidal shuttle]

WTFF IS A KILOOOMETERRE

🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[summer forge]

Hes being funny Driveways

[topaz ocean]

Seriously what is it tho

[summer forge]

Kilometer?

[teal fractal]

an accurate unit

[summer forge]

Non American measure of distance

[summer forge]

So is a mile and gtfo about it 😂

[topaz ocean]

how do you measure distance different.... ?

[summer forge]

Most other countries use kilometers to measure distance like we do miles

[topaz ocean]

but a mile is still a mile right?

[summer forge]

Yep

[topaz ocean]

so what am i missing

[summer forge]

It goes back to Metric vs Standard

[topaz ocean]

Metric? Standard?

[summer forge]

Inches vs centimeters

[tidal shuttle]

Fahrenheit.

[teal fractal]

its a unit of the decimal system

[summer forge]

Inches is American, centimeters is originally European

[teal fractal]

its within literal sense more accurate

[topaz ocean]

what is a centimeters? meters are just a thing games use

[teal fractal]

its just more convinient as a unit aswell

[summer forge]

To non Americans yes

[summer forge]

You’re trolling right?

[teal fractal]

? no

its within literal sense more accurate

[old raft]

Servers down?

[teal fractal]

1km- 1000 meters, 1 mile- 1600 meters

makes no sense

[topaz ocean]

ofc, just had a lovely weekend in 🇨🇦 🫡

[summer forge]

I was responding to your convenient comment

[teal fractal]

how is this more convenient

[summer forge]

Americans find standard measure more convenient

I didn’t say you had to make it make sense for you. I’m telling you how it is for Americans

[topaz ocean]

it's about vibes

[teal fractal]

Mile = 1609.344 meters even

so its not even exact 1600m

making it even less convenient

kek

[summer forge]

You do realize Americans never use kilometers, meters, or metric in every day life right?

[teal fractal]

1760 yards in a mile

[summer forge]

Except MAYBE in some tools

[teal fractal]

63360 inches in 1760 yards

very convenient

[topaz ocean]

i use metric all the time, my favorite is calculating protein requirements in grams per pound

[bronze portal]

console gamers when they realize they're not doing the aiming part of the shooter game

[teal fractal]

im aware yes

[summer forge]

Well there you go. We are highly inconvenient to the world lol

[teal fractal]

actually yes

[summer forge]

In multiple ways I’m very well aware haha

So please, just keep rolling your eyes at us and we’ll keep being our American selves 😂

[bronze portal]

the true american measurement

[summer forge]

Whaaaaaaat 😱

[bronze portal]

school shootings per football fields

[summer forge]

🤣

Just ask him about stabbings. They love sticking each other over there

Too far? Ok yep, too far

[bronze portal]

nah id say thats p accurate

[summer forge]

We can go back to arguing over kpm. Battlefield is dog poo, and everything is a waste of time

[teal fractal]

Countries within union are the safest in the world

A lot of countries here have very few incidents usually

[summer forge]

You’re talking UN right? If so that’s a funny statement

But ok bud 👍

[reef mortar]

anyone having issues with bf4 servers?

[bronze portal]

higher KPM > higher KD objectively

[summer forge]

PC?

[reef mortar]

xbox

[summer forge]

It is but it also depends on a players play style

[bronze portal]

i think EA is down

[summer forge]

That’s weird for the servers

[bronze portal]

i just got signed out for no reason after the game launched offline

[reef mortar]

yeah its perma "connecting" for me atm

[teal fractal]

Yes, no

[reef mortar]

yeah seems theres is a bunch of reports of ea being down

so might be NA?

[teal fractal]

I wish good fps games existed

Either they are decent but not my taste or they are poorly delivered but i like the idea of the game more

Cant ever win

[reef mortar]

im just waiting for delta force to come out to consoles.... but ive heard mixed reviews

[summer forge]

For once I agree with you

[teal fractal]

Dont

Its garbage

[bronze portal]

its fun for about 2 days

[summer forge]

2007-2012 was the last good era of shooters

[teal fractal]

I played 1 game and uninstalled midway

[bronze portal]

then it becomes a sbmm garbage fiesta

[reef mortar]

well itll be f2p so ill give it a shot

[finite mauve]

Copy of 2042 really

[teal fractal]

The amount of cancer in that game is insane

[teal fractal]

No

42 is unironically much better

[finite mauve]

How??

[reef mortar]

regardless ive gotta do something till the new bf 😄

4/5/and 1 have been good but something new new is needed

[teal fractal]

Less headglitch slop, no operator that gives everyone wallhacks, better visibility, audio design, maps are better, theres far leas clutter while under fire and when firing a weapon

[topaz ocean]

hoping 6 is just the best bits of each

[teal fractal]

I could go on

[finite mauve]

Ok

[bronze portal]

choosing between 2042 and DF is: do you want a mechanically more smooth game with garbage EOMM? or play a disfunctional with heavy input delays but no sbmm

[teal fractal]

Minimap is at an awkward position and you cant move it

[topaz ocean]

i would also accept a grappling hook and wingsuit

[teal fractal]

Then weapon building system is entirely broken

[topaz ocean]

in 6

[teal fractal]

I built a m4a16 that beamed til 120 meters

Like very bare minimum recoil control

[reef mortar]

lol i just want a modern bf5 tbh

[teal fractal]

Bf5 was garbage

[finite mauve]

Objectively it wasn't garbage

[reef mortar]

on release

its pretty fun now ngl

[teal fractal]

Opposite

[stoic lotus]

THERE IS AN UPDATE ON THE SERVER 2042 DOES ANYONE KNOW?

[finite mauve]

The only bad battlefield game is 2042

[bronze portal]

game had merits and demerits. it was bad in its own way but did some things right

[summer forge]

Don’t like other people having opinions? lol

[teal fractal]

Gunplay is bad, movement is interesting but maps are far too large with far too much downtime for it to be fun or used

[finite mauve]

Like I said to them "Objectively"

Objectively meaning without opinions

[summer forge]

Yea…

[reef mortar]

thats fair, i honestly just play tac conq and breakthrough

[wispy zephyr]

everything that happened in bf5 5.2 and beyond is utter dogshit and that's the version of the game we're stuck with unfortunately

[teal fractal]

Im saying its objectively bad

[bronze portal]

no game is JUST bad

[finite mauve]

Its not though that's though, that's subjective

[summer forge]

And we’re saying it’s objectively good

[teal fractal]

In what way

Give me 5 reasons

[bronze portal]

there's things to take away from bfv. such as the minimap UI that tells you when you're spotted. or the part of the attrition system that allows me to grab health and ammo from others without spamming for i need ammo or screaming

[stoic lotus]

PLEASE 2042 SERVERS ARE OFFLINE

[teal fractal]

That arent immerson or graphics related

[bronze portal]

but random recoil should never be a thing

the garbage color palette they chose for maps shouldn't be a thing

[teal fractal]

Random recoil is the most braindead thing you could ever add in a shooter game

Its actually so triggering

[wispy zephyr]

spread-to-recoil manages to be the dumbest implementation of both spread and recoil, it's amazing

[finite mauve]

Good movement

Good graphics

Classes

Feels like a battlefield game actually (2042 doesn't exactly)

Sound design and lighting is good

[bronze portal]

bfv moment with bf4 air strafes would be my perfect battlefield game

[summer forge]

Fun movement, good slide, guns respond well, mini map, good spotting.

I’m. On. F’ing. Console.

[teal fractal]

So you just said nothing

[finite mauve]

Its a battlefield game to its core and thats what inevitably doesn't make it garbage

[teal fractal]

Every bf game has a minimap

[finite mauve]

2042 isnt exactly

[teal fractal]

What

[reef mortar]

give me bf4 gun progression, bf1 "battlefield moments" and bf5 movement. amen

[finite mauve]

Every battlefield has its pros and cons

So

[bronze portal]

at least bfv when i play, i can tell its a battlefield game

[minor cave]

I'd say the movement mechanics is the best in the series, with vaulting and wall climbing. Classes are pretty well defined. Hot take but I really enjoyed the pacing with the whole "Attrition" philosophy. Vehicle mechanics were more complex. Doritos aren't flooding the screen

[summer forge]

He just hates 5 so apparently everyone else should too

[bronze portal]

when i launch 2042, i honestly can't say i feel like im playing a BF, more like a knockoff

[finite mauve]

I like the game

I prefer it over 1

Personally

But 4 is my favorite

[reef mortar]

yup

[teal fractal]

Idk all i see is constant all cap with 10 minute games either in or against stack teams

[finite mauve]

V is a hidden gem imo

[bronze portal]

bf1 has great immersion. that's all the game has

[finite mauve]

Key word "Imo"

[reef mortar]

3 but man its dated now

and the supression.... oof

[bronze portal]

bf3 had it all

[teal fractal]

Cringe game

[finite mauve]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[minor cave]

I think my favorite part of BFV was that there not a much of doritos. it made flanking more viable rather than just get spotted by the entire enemy team

[bronze portal]

except the blue filter on my face and the suppression being over the board

[summer forge]

.

[wispy zephyr]

attrition was just there to punish players who went on extended kill streaks, literally punished for being good at the game

[teal fractal]

Yes but you being spotted and not being able to spot makes practically any other encounter unplayable

For example

[bronze portal]

only good part of the attrition they brought was being able to grab ammo and health off blueberries that are playing their first ever game

[teal fractal]

You get suppression spotted

[minor cave]

i didn't feel punished. but i did stick around supports and medics a lot. along with recognizing where supply stations were

[teal fractal]

By some 3iq mg in some random place

[wispy zephyr]

you had to stop what you were doing to go on a fetch quest lol

[teal fractal]

You then get zerged by a 5 man full of kill hungry people that know and see exactly where you are

[bronze portal]

the whole limited health regen was garbage design

[teal fractal]

And you cant do anything

[minor cave]

its a squad/team based game. thats what attrition was focusing hard on. rather than the lone wolf

[teal fractal]

Yeah

Vehicle gameplay sucked in 5 too

Super boring

[bronze portal]

didn't exactly like the whole gun specialization idea. they had the freedom to expand upon it but chose to be lazy

[teal fractal]

Same

[wispy zephyr]

there's no coordination there, you spotted a random teammate who was still alive or a point on the map and pressed E on one of the two stationary, unthinking objects

[bronze portal]

some guns i love the visuals and base performance but has horrible skill tree progression so i never touch them

[teal fractal]

Imagine if bf5 had good visibility

[minor cave]

coordination is ultimately dependent on the players. but i often played with friends so my experience may be different from people playing with randoms

[bronze portal]

nothing more frustrating than playing battlefield alone

having a couple friends always make the game way more enjoyable

[teal fractal]

4,1 and 42 are playable alone

5 isnt

[minor cave]

verytime i play with randoms, and theres actually voice chat happening, it significantly betters the gameplay lol

[bronze portal]

the game that i loved the voip was battlebit

man that game was great fun while it lasted

got killed off fast but the teammates there were funny as shit

[minor cave]

as much as i want it, i don';t think any big AAA company would go for always on voice proxi chat. they get lazy with moderation

[teal fractal]

Id drop bf and play battlebit tbh

[tidal shuttle]

Ai is moderators now

Boom

[winged sable]

This is how every HC BF player should think.

[tidal shuttle]

No excuses

You can’t even cuss in lobbies anymore without getting the warning

Put voip in bf6

[minor cave]

all things considered. Activision is pretty ballsy for allowing voice chat when you grab onto enemies in BO6 lol. also the death comms is always funny to hear

[tidal shuttle]

If they don’t, game is soft and they are catering to the toddlers again

[winged sable]

BO6 is generally a terrible game.

Zombies is cool, but the MP experience is nearly unplayable.

In my opinion, MWIII is ironically the superior game.

[tidal shuttle]

Well i would hope so

Seeing us how there’s been like 27 cods

[minor cave]

i got back into CoD with MW2019, but then left again after MW2

[tidal shuttle]

Somebody had to get it right

[winged sable]

MWIII has good weapon variety and has a reasonable about of movement.

BO6 has 2 kinds of weapons.

Meta and unusable.

The skating is insane in BO6.

[waxen loom]

BO6 is the first COD that dont Have any new things during the whole season

[winged sable]

My main issue is the omnimovement in conjunction with overturned AA and overtuned RAA just makes the game unplayable on KBM.

[fast cloak]

Man the AI in this game genuinely makes me seethe so much at times. Stop getting into the front seat of the latv and driving me straight into enemy fire

[gentle plover]

Yeah omnimovement in a bubble is fine, but it doesn't mean anything to 0ms soft aimbot reactive tracking

[bronze portal]

nice name

add console auto rotation to that list

[tidal shuttle]

Bf5 crashing in 2025 still doesn’t surprise me

[gentle plover]

That's the RAA part, rotational aim assist

[winged sable]

In vacuums, both are fine by themselves, but CoD has gone way too far with buffing their “assist”.

It results in big egos on console.

Personally, if you want to do competitive for FPS, remove all assists.

If a competition is for money, remove the assists.

In casual games, it’s fine because controller, whether they are willing to admit it or not, is in fact the vastly inferior input to KBM.

[pale flume]

i've had to get my micro dose of BF in by playing battle bit. Just goes to show no matter how a game actually looks IF THE FORMULA AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT nice graphics doesn't make a game

[pale flume]

my only dislike for BF3 was the blue screen filter and the introduction of tactical flashscope glint, the bullet trail system for snipers they had for spotting enemy Recon players in BFBC2 was a million times better

and the odd few features that BF4 improved on anyway.

other than that definitely one of the best BF games next to BFBC2

[finite mauve]

Imagine if battlefield had proximity chat

That would be revolutionary

Maybe even hear enemies

[pale flume]

to be fair the weapon customisation for BF1 was god awful, as much as i enjoyed the setting

[carmine pasture]

How do you do fellow gamers

[finite mauve]

Well its world War 1

Lol

Its why I don't like historical battlefields

Modern is the best

Most guns

Most variety

Vehicles

[carmine pasture]

Just remake battlefield 2 + 4. Problem solved.

[pale flume]

@finite mauve no but how they made all the moded weapons just a completly different wepon rather than an option on the weapon, thats what really irritated me. The lack of variety is just the by-product of the setting which im fine with. the game was good for the novelty but yeah i agree modern is best.

[carmine pasture]

Has anyone seen zh1nt0?

[finite mauve]

That's why I prefer Battlefield V over 1

Also the God awful bloom in 1

[pale flume]

it's literally all the core fanbase has been craving idk how they fumbled 2042 so hard

i mean I do know but i'll reserve my criticism of EA +dice team leaders

[pale flume]

yeah honestly i didn't think V was all that bad still felt like it was missing something though. Also eastern front would have been good

[steep edge]

Wait, they released a WW2 game
and did not include the eastern front?

[waxen loom]

they have Russian weapon in game files but dont have eastern front

LAD,hacker's favorite

[pale flume]

nah RIP

[dark verge]

Odd question, but did anyone try to play Hardline these days? Is it still alive?

[solid hinge]

I want to but it's most certainly dead

Just look at the steam charts, all time peak is under 300

[pastel frigate]

Proxomity would be great, but many people would just mute

[subtle spear]

Proximity would be amazing if it persisted after death

So if the bodies went full ragdoll all you'd here is aaaaAAAAAAAAaaaaaa

[subtle spear]

Yeah that game never kicked off

It was alright. The campaign was mediocre

The gunplay was weird, and the overall setting just wasn't right

They basically turned LA into an all out Warzone

[random blade]

Even without proximity it’s fun when they do that anyway

[subtle spear]

It was just... Weird

[random blade]

Had some amazing ragdoll voice lines in the past

[subtle spear]

Oh absolutely. But you know how BF4 and BF1 ragdolls are. You can be sent flying at Mach Jesus

[random blade]

It’s so funny

[subtle spear]

I have a clip of one somewhere

Hold on

[random blade]

Every game needs keep ragdoll glitches to some degree

[subtle spear]

Oh yeah

BF1 has arguably the best ragdolls

Especially when you do a bombing run on like 20 people.

Bodies flying in every direction

[random blade]

okay that's actually pretty funny

[subtle spear]

Which one

[random blade]

'we're blasting off again'

[teal fractal]

Battlebit is very far from hardcore

Its an arcade shooter with some few milsim elements that dont really ruin the pacing of the game heavily

[solid hinge]

See to me that sounds awesome

[subtle spear]

It's not tho

Do you realize how bad LA would be as an actual warzone

[solid hinge]

GtaV

[subtle spear]

Horrible

[subtle spear]

Not even close

Hardline realistically should have been more horrifying than BF1

[solid hinge]

Real

[subtle spear]

You're talking about all out war in a civilian population center

If Dice really wanted to amp up their game, there would be piles of civilian bodies, street morgues, the works

Battlefield Hardline did civilian center warzone horribly

Modern Warfare 2 did it impeccably

[solid hinge]

Ah

[subtle spear]

Remember when you would listen to the radio? They were arming untrained civilians to hold back Russian forces, and you got to listen as they were being overrun, and the sheer distraught in the radio operator's voice as he realizes that they can't do anything to prevent the mass civilian casualties occuring

[subtle spear]

https://youtu.be/9qOWSLIluZQ?si=w5hE-rWZDAtOcWQL

This was peak CoD

Absolutely horrifying

[solid hinge]

Genuinely I don't care about cod

More of a csgo guy

[subtle spear]

The old CODs had great stories

They pushed people's buttons

[solid hinge]

Yah

[subtle spear]

Because they described events that are completely realistic

No Russian made the news back in 09

Many countries banned the mission from being available to play

Pure psychological horror

[summer forge]

Back when Project Nova was a reason to play it

[subtle spear]

Hell yes

[summer forge]

As much as I give respect to the ground breaking development of the MW Trilogy. Project Nova managed to have an equally amazing story and just in one game

[subtle spear]

Yeah but the MW series had some truly horrifying moments.

Moments that had you pause and sit back to think about the reality of the situation. Moments that you realized are completely possible

[summer forge]

Oh for sure, never said they didn’t. I was coming from one game had an equally outstanding story compared to 3 games.

That’s how much it peaked imo

[subtle spear]

Oh yeah

Nova was great

MW series was a horror story, considering I was under 10 years old when I first played it

[summer forge]

I was definitely older when it came out so I had a different perspective

Probably why Nova hit more for me

MW was really just playing through the early days of the GWAT in real time

GWOT *

[subtle spear]

Well my dad always told me I was a very smart kid. Even at the age of 9 (when MW2 released) I was very aware of what was happening in the campaign. I was just a kid so this is kinda to be expected, but I had nightmares for weeks after playing MW2

[summer forge]

It was definitely a raw one. That’s why I said different perspective. Not taking away from you, I was just in a different position.

[subtle spear]

Ye

MW2 had me waking up in the middle of the night freaking out

Definitely not a game for children

[summer forge]

Well people only play zombies and multiplayer now anyways

At least that’s how the vibe feels

[green steppe]

How do I get access to labs, I've applied like 10 times and have waited months. I play battlefield almost everyday, I live in north America

Like come on.......

[carmine grail]

A million other have done the same

[summer forge]

If you get another email, they chose you. It’s not a sign up and automatically in type thing.

[green steppe]

But i wanttttt itttt

[summer forge]

So do all of us lol

But we get to be adults and swallow our pride if we don’t get selected 😂

[tropic vortex]

Nah

[summer forge]

Will you don’t count anyway lol

[tropic vortex]

I always do man

[summer forge]

Oh yea, for sure 👍

[wary dew]

dm me

[weak hamlet]

hey i have a question. has anyone of you ever had such an error that after trying to start Battlefield 1 or 4 the game does not start and gives no error BUT starting Battlefield 5 has no problem?

[summer forge]

PC or console?

[weak hamlet]

PC

[summer forge]

PC has been having lots of issues lately

On EA’s side

4, 1, and 5

[royal oak]

so hungry..

need..

keeeeeeys..

[weak hamlet]

4 and 1 are not working Oddly enough, the 5 works

All 3 were purchased through Steam

[weak hamlet]

Well... I think I've tried everything I could find on the internet, deleting temporary files, reinstalling (both games and the EA app itself), etc.

The strangest thing is that I have already played these games on this computer on this account and they stopped working after 4/16 hours of playing.

[summer forge]

There’s been a more wide spread problem for PC in the last week or so

I’ve seen various people commenting more frequently in here about games crashing, servers not loading, etc

[weak hamlet]

1. Buy the game
2. Play for more than 2 hours and you won't be able to return it
3. Launcher refuses to start the game
4. Cry

It's really no longer surprising that if someone wants to play EA games for the story, they pirate them.

[summer forge]

It’s definitely a bummer for PC players

[royal oak]

I only do step 1 and 4

[tight rain]

Depending on how many you played after the 2 hour mark, I wouldn’t be surprised if steam gave an exception anyways

[karmic knot]

Quick question: can you disable monkeys spawning inside your boat in bf1

[royal oak]

monkeys?

[tight rain]

No you can’t disable that

[royal oak]

I don't remember no monkey in bf1

[karmic knot]

☹️

[subtle spear]

Sadge

[keen thistle]

Guys

Do you think that Leopard tanks should be added in the new battlefield?

[solid hinge]

Do you need help?

[tight rain]

Eh I guess it’s a cool tank

Kinda neat how flat it’s turret looks

[jade lintel]

2A4 looks kinda goofy imo

[keen thistle]

Iam talking about the Leopard 2a6

And 2a7

[jade lintel]

Oh yeah 2A7 would be nice but I feel like they might just have 1 tank per faction w no option to choose

[keen thistle]

Why?

They should add a lot of tanks

Or at least several categories

[tight rain]

I can’t see em adding many

[keen thistle]

As they did in bfv

[tight rain]

True

Still can’t see em adding many

[keen thistle]

Why?

[tight rain]

V and to an extent 1 are pretty major exceptions to how many tanks they usually have

[jade lintel]

For Labs so far it looks like the factions are NATO versus some fictional coalition of probably eastern countries so there might be a chance other NATO countries tanks might be implemented

[summer forge]

Ww1 and 2 were very active on heavy vehicle usage

[jade lintel]

I guess it might work if they just make diff tanks like Abrams, Leclerc, Leapord 2A7, Ariete sort of normal tanks with slight stat differences, palette swaps otherwise

[summer forge]

Aside from abrams tanks, modern setting has been more of up armored vehicles vs actual heavy armor usage

[jade lintel]

Like the abrams could be a baseline, Leclerc could have a faster reload but weaker armour, Ariete could be faster, Lepard could be more heavily armoured, etc

[subtle spear]

Leopards are the epitome of modern heavy tanks

The Swedish Strv 122s are pretty much just super heavy tanks at this point

[clear hill]

Isn’t there a battlefield Vietnam?

[subtle spear]

All of the original rolled steel armor with several effective meters worth of armor wrapping the entire turret and chassis

[summer forge]

Very old but yes

[drowsy copper]

2004 😦

[clear hill]

Why don’t they just remake it?

For newer consoles

[subtle spear]

The problem therin becomes that some tanks would be objectively better than others

[summer forge]

It’s never been their style/trend to remake

[subtle spear]

Like, for instance, a T-90 can fire a round every 5 seconds.
Abrams fires a round every 7-9 seconds

[clear hill]

But I’m pretty sure that should if they managed to remake it, it would be a huge success

[summer forge]

Only two shooter franchises have actually gone back to remaster their games. COD and Halo

[subtle spear]

So T-90s would be able to spam fire ridiculously better than abrams

[jade lintel]

Yes but its a T90

So its shit

[clear hill]

What if they don’t remake it, they just allow it to be played on newer consoles and PCs

[summer forge]

Well the same goes for a remaster of BF 4, but they won’t do it. Not their intention with the franchise

[subtle spear]

Actually not true. There's nothing wrong with Russian tanks.

They just have sup par crews, which has been very demonstrated in recent events

[summer forge]

Still won’t happen. Unless they keep using Portal and bring it in that way

[clear hill]

Dang it, would have been pretty awesome tho

[subtle spear]

A modernized T-90 or T-80 has more than enough firepower to easily destroy an Abrams.

They also have capabilities that Abrams dont

[drowsy copper]

They would just mess vietnam up. Nothing like hearing the distant music of The Rise Of The Valkyries and running for cover !

[clear hill]

Your probably right

[subtle spear]

All Russian tanks from the T-54 forward can fire ATGMs from their main gun.

They also weigh like 30 tonnes less than Abrams, allowing them to be ridiculously faster and can cross terrain that western tanks cant

[summer forge]

Or Fortunate Son

[drowsy copper]

Hell yes !

[clear hill]

Or free bird guitar solo

[subtle spear]

What about the Doom Eternal soundtrack?

[summer forge]

Couple 0’ huies, you’re coked up buddies, and some Fortunate Son

[jade lintel]

They also have horrible reverse gears and break down more often

[summer forge]

Just another day in Nam

[subtle spear]

They're also much easier to work on because the technology implemented isn't as advanced as Abrams.

Also the T-80 has a reverse speed of 20 kmh

[subtle spear]

^

[clear hill]

Does anyone else have the problem with where when you try and play multiplayer but it just says “missing multiplayer privileges”

I’m stuck playing the campaign cuz it won’t allow me to play multiplayer

[jade lintel]

Me when I lie
(It's 11km/h, only the BMV version which began being produced in 2023 is 20km/h)

[clear hill]

I have been trying to fix this problem for a very long time

If anyone knows how to fix it PLEASEEE tell me

[jade lintel]

Abrams can go twice as fast backwards at 40km/h

[subtle spear]

True. But the mechanics of the T Tanks is much easier than an Abrams.

Abrams mechanics are literal jet engine mechanics.

T Tank mechanics are diesel mechanics

[tight rain]

I’m not sure having a less advanced tank is a flex

[jade lintel]

It isnt but Russkies try to make it one

[tidal shuttle]

There’s a certain noise in the leaks that excites me.

https://tenor.com/view/redline-takeshi-koike-katsuhito-ishii-car-racing-cannonball-run-gif-13053532767876224153

[topaz ocean]

Meat grinder tank

[tidal shuttle]

Think we’ll get the airborne gua 8 in bf6?

[tight rain]

Nah probably not

[tidal shuttle]

😭

I need to hear it

[subtle spear]

It is because you spend less money both on the parts and the mechanic

Russians have been using the same diesel motor since the T-34

[tight rain]

Yeah but there is a point when the advantages of technology outweigh the benefits of simplicity

A musket is pretty damn simple but you don’t see them for good reason

[subtle spear]

Yeah but you're talking about 30 tonnes of weight difference

And those Diesel T Tanks are a hell of a lot faster than abrams

[tight rain]

Are they? I wouldn’t know

[subtle spear]

Most T Tanks have a top speed of 70-80kmh at top speed

But they do accelerate a lot faster

Like I said, there's a 30 tonne diference

[subtle spear]

https://youtu.be/8XPugrS2Tk4?si=e4gKZjz5Nx7o3gdK

Watch this Chinese tank get absolutely passed up by a T-90 at the biathalon

[tight rain]

I’ll be honest I know absolutely nothing about the Chinese tank either, but that does seem like a fast tank

[subtle spear]

Well the problem with Chinese tanks is they basically put a western style tank turret on a Russian style tank chassis

[tight rain]

That does sound like a very Chinese thing to do

[subtle spear]

Which is why it's a bit slower. The turret is a lot bigger, which throws off the balancing a bit, and it's also heavier

[subtle spear]

It certainly is

But yeah, Russian tanks are fast as hell

The up armored ones have good armor, but only against certain weapons and it only lasts for one shot in that area

And the ERA is useless against tandem warheads, which is why they're getting destroyed so easily right now

[weak mantle]

The first ever message I read is about the next battlefield 😭

[tidal shuttle]

How are we not gonna have a10/su25 or the q5 😔

[topaz ocean]

them's old planes

[tidal shuttle]

Them new planes are wak I ain’t tryna fly no drone lol

[topaz ocean]

have they said anything about air vehicles?

[jade lintel]

Not yet

[novel vector]

While I appreciate the game’s modern setting, I find the new battlefield’s HUD display to be overly cluttered. It is difficult to discern the relevant information due to the excessive display of weapons, grenades, and other items.

[subtle spear]

Your equipment HUD should be toggleable. That way it's only there when it's necessary

Like the dpad for equipment, accessories, and fire rate should have always been fade from disuse

[solar nexus]

https://youtu.be/6UP4LWJWTks?si=dufsnRe1w-7w_lfN

[solar nexus]

The next battlefield campaign should be good and long

[subtle spear]

I'm just glad that this one has a campaign

[solar nexus]

Battlefield 5 campaign sucked but ok it's better than nothing unlike bf2042

Selling bf2042 at $60 without a campaign was a bad decision

[subtle spear]

I was so ready for a campaign, because it's a similar vibe as Black Ops II and that campaign was fire.

And then no campaign. I felt robbed

[topaz ocean]

campaign bad campaign pointless no add campaign add more mp content

add sp mode with bots great success

make game run fast high tick rate low latency

[solar nexus]

Battlefield 4, BC2, 3, 1 were famous for campaign

Even Hardline had a campaign but Hardline overall was disliked at that time

[topaz ocean]

driveways play campaign once no remember play mp many time play with friend friend buy game more game buy more money for game maker

[teal fractal]

locked out of playing bf4 because punkbuster is broken 🫶

[uneven hollow]

I mean idk but I feel like the stories for 1 were a mix and match not too keen on the whole war stories vibe but do appreciate it
But bf1 did had better stories than bfv

would’ve been interesting to see a full on campaign for both bf1 and bfv

[sterile jolt]

I personally don't care about campaign in WW1-2 games tbh

I liked old CoD WW2 campaigns though

Unless you're doing something like WaW or CoD1's Russian missions I don't think campaign is necessary

[onyx juniper]

bf6 doesn't need a campain it needs a battle royale mode

[solar nexus]

Actually they are making one. It's even lead by the former warzone devs

They have the former warzone lead

[sterile jolt]

Campaign is more important than BR imo

[onyx juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

[sterile jolt]

In a modern era shooter

[solar nexus]

Not for EA. EA thinks live services are better than single player

[onyx juniper]

tbh i don't even want to see a battle royale

[sterile jolt]

Campaign gives context for what's happening in multiplayer

[onyx juniper]

we need more campains

[solar nexus]

If the next battlefield wasn't live service, i would actually think the next battlefield is coming back on track

[sterile jolt]

BR is a double edged sword, if it becomes successful then Battlefield will be more popular than ever, if it's too successful multiplayer will be shafted in favor of BR

If it fails then whatever though

[solar nexus]

If they pull marvel rivals

[solar nexus]

They are doing battle Royale because of COD?

[onyx juniper]

warzone is dead so the next bf br has a chance if it's free but i don't want br to destroy the multiplayer like warzone did to cod

[solar nexus]

It's actually rumored to be a f2p battle Royale which is even more concerning

[onyx juniper]

they would never do a payed br after the firestorm flop

they learned

[topaz ocean]

doing any BR would be a huge mistake

[solar nexus]

Battle Royale is something that should be avoided at all

[onyx juniper]

as long as they don't spend all their ressources on that

[topaz ocean]

none, if they try it's going to suck and just make the rest of the game look bad