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I won't buy the next BF if it has AI unless it's custom servers only
idk why people think like this
I don't mind AI if they’re actually aggressive.
ok so there is a bit of people in na that plays just takes a bit to populate server
Hopefully there won't be ai
If the game dies at launch then you know it would
you know what happened before we had ai? you sat in servers waiting for enough players to start the game
im doing that right now
with ai it starts straight away and backfills in a minute or two
The hope is that the game is good enough for that not to happen
I never have that issue in BF1
yeah well no matter how good a game is it's always going to struggle with players eventually
people hate on ai as if it's a bad thing
when it's only a positive
Ai is bad in the sense most time there no challenge in it
it's too easy to kill.
That’s not true
exactly.
yeah this is a problem in a pve mode, not a pvp mode where ai is just waiting for a player to take its place
They play like the average battlefield players though, so i see no difference
ai is meant to get games going quicker
It's not a bad thing entirely but I played 5 matches last night and like 3 were over half AI the entire time, why even play at that point. I'd rather wait for a real lobby but that's just me
idk what mental gymnastics you can do to even begin to argue against that lmao, every game eventually suffers from not having enough players
If it was like 5 on each team then no biggie
Or having a server browser would be alright but we know thats really unlikely
Even in pvp they can be that way but the likely hood of an ai pushing you during a reload. Putting down suppressive fire so you can't get out of cover it doesn't happen enough to make it a challenge worth fighting
it's either that or the game never starts in the first place. You're free to leave and look for another
I hope they didnt look at delta force and implement some shady sbmm garbage
the reason I don't like AI, is because the game is made to play against other players, putting AI destroys the experience
Yeah I'd rather just not have to do that, but it's just my opinion and if one likes them then that's totally fine 
If a game sells well and people like the game it’s going to retain players.
Im free to leave and look for another? You mean get matched into the same fucking server or join a 1/64 lobby
like i said, this isn't really an argument because ai is just meant to fill slots until players join. If you're having to fight that much ai then removing them isn't a solution either, because then you just wouldn't start the match due to low player count
Deadass tho, this happens often. I leave and join the same one I just left
None of this would be an issue if server browser is a thing
and 10 years down the line when people have all moved on it's going to struggle with players
And if AIs correctly were replaced with players
I wouldnt be playing a half bot lobby for a full round of conquest
yeah that's my entire point lmao, either we have ai and you deal with it until players fill the server, or you get placed into a 1/64 and the match doesn't start in the first place
Like I said if it were in custom servers only it'd be fine, people could run AI servers like they do in Portal
They can run their dogshit afghan 1000 percent dmg servers and bot farms, i dont care. I just want a server browser that allows for good servers to join
and i'm saying that still leaves us with the problem of sitting in a server with 2 people waiting for others to join
if there aren't any other ones available that's what we'll have to deal with
I tested this. I had 3 friends press matchmaking for a infy BT and we all got into a different lobby
you can see it in 2042 a lot of the time, the match starts with like 50% ai and within a minute or two they all get replaced by players
Even when we pressed at the same time
That is because the game is ass tho, BF1 and BFV don't have this issue because they're not ass (BFV isn't that bad) and they both have a server browser. So the issue of dead lobbies could be fixed by not being ass and having a server browser (that would also allow bots)
That tells you that theres definitely issues with not just replacing AI properly in matches, but also the matchmaking in itself
If they don’t bring back a server browser for the next bf, DICE is actually brain dead.
Dude, thats the least of your worries
I am fearing some sort of no server browser sbmm garbage
We know it works horribly but delta force showed it’s possible
sure but eventually bf1 and bfv will get low on players too, and that's when ai shines the most
it'll take longer to fill servers, but with temporary ai the match starts quicker
Yeah that's why I think there should be AI for custom servers, I am in support for that
Then it is what it is. Games “die”eventually. Keep the memories and moments in the past and reminisce about em every so often.
If there is no server browser then SBMM will be in the game
Like if BF3 had custom servers with AI, that would be lit
but that defeats the point of having ai lmao, they're supposed to help in all scenarios when players can't fill the server quick enough, custom or official
Wasn't that venice unleashed
games die so let's not do anything to improve the player experience if they want to revisit old titles 👍
Well my mindset is we'd have a server browser so we could just join full lobbies. I guess if we did, i would not care about them being in pubs. I just don't want to be forced to matchmake with them. So if there is a server browser that allows for turning them off, I'm fine with them being in pubs
Game needs to be kept alive so lets keep implementing broken AI system, kill the player count, so everyone can play in bot lobbies 👍
A game I wish had AI was Medal of Honor Warfighter - so fucking fun in MP sad the servers stopped
lol alright
If the next game sucks then people are gonna revisit the old ones
The next battlefield will do better than bf5 and bf2042 if it's not a live service and Instead monetized through DLCs
If a game needs to be IV’d by fucking AI thats a huge red flag
im just enjoying bf1
yeah man agree to disagree i suppose
yup, just like BFV and BF1
Live service ain’t it with bf
same bought it again today and its so fun
yeah obviously, not sure what that has to do with what i'm saying though. AI will help people play games when they're old and low on players
I miss premium
It’s not a forever game like apex or fn
it just sucks it takes forever to fill the servers
playing with bots sucks, they just need a server browser (an ideally self-hosted servers but nobody does that anymore)
We get new ones every 2-3 years
It’s live service
If a game is good, people always end up playing the better game or hop on every once in a while
Bf5 and 2042 were live services, it resulted in way less contents compared to the past games but there are other factors to it but i believe being live service was the primary reason for it
for warm up
Andrew Wilson already confirmed that
A good game incentivizes longevity of the game
Fucking padding it with AI is pointless
well Andy Wilson needs to WAKE UP
idk why you're acting like games will last forever
Don’t need anyone to confirm it for it to be a fact
no matter how good it is there will always come a time when people move on
Yeah agree to disagree. I just want a server browser with some servers being no AI at least, otherwise it's fine
yall get on bf1
games do last forever if you can host your own servers... go join a quake 1 server there are plenty
We knew it would follow that business model
The irony
That's sad, they are CODyfying battlefield for years
AI as an option is good though, not to be a filler but a option
^ when the game is old then the AI might be viable
not like im in multiplayer and theres ai, more like local play
Yeah i just want the option
It just shouldn’t be forced
Bf5 was the first attempt to turn battlefield into a live service
But the game should not rely on having AI to fill lobbies from the START
agreed
literally my entire point
If the game is good and it’s feels like a true bf experience like 3/4 then I don’t give a shit.
I have little expectations about this franchise anymore. As long as it has a working mouse input im playing
People said exactly the same thing for bf2042 before it came out
This, nothing else like BF, and imo CoD is just ass nowadays
They can’t pull the “we work at home so its sooo hard” bs no more
well they advertised it as so with the portal
Im sure a lot of BF players tried DF in hopes it gave some BF vibes
2042 looked garbage from the beginning tbh
But it was some chinese knockoff skin gacha
I got nervous as soon as I saw the first gameplay
but the issue with BF2042 was they were using a new Game Engine that the new devs were not familiar with, wich likely caused the delay and many issues
the gameplay felt like cod - operators suck - and portal was just limited
I used to get folks to buy the game early
I kinda hope they don’t listen too much to the milsim boomers that complain about the game being fast
Hopefully the next BF is optimized well
Game should have some form of skill expression and a way to outmaneuver your opponent
Not COD level though
Milsim gameplay in a BF or anything close to it won't work well now imo
I dont wanna be a fucking flying squirrel
Not just that, almost everyone who worked on battlefield left the studio after bf5, mostly due to bad treatment from EA.
They’re going for a 60hz tickrate which is amazing
Hop on portal and you can see the average BF redditor
Most of the devs on bf2042 never worked on battlefield before
AFGHAN MILSIM 1000% DMG
This is still true for the next battlefield but very few dev came back to work on it
It just needs to have the feel and authenticity of a battlefield game which is arguably 3 & 4
bad company too
See, i really couldn’t give a shit if they were OG devs or not
They had every tool necessary to make a decent game
And the fanbase clearly stated what they wanted
Bf 3.5/4.5
Today's dice isn't the one who made BF4 or even bf1
But they said nah fuck you and made some… dogshit
yeah but devs come and go and still its the lead of the director
I refunded Battlefields I bought because there was no English language available. EA doesn't care about foreigners.
The game needed a minimum 1 year delay
In terms of content and bug fixes
Id rather get a complete game over a unplayable garbage
I know right, this time they need to always remember, they are making this game for the players, not for their own pride
Ex-DICE Developer Says Battlefield Fans Should 'Temper Their Expectations'
What do you guys think out of 1-10 DICE can finally make a good bf game for once? 😭😂
No crashes,mix in some legacy maps keep feeding the fans. Release new weps frequently. and the game will be fine
I give a solid 3
ehhh, for the next BF, like 5
Id say 5 also
why cause I need to get my hands on it
Im not lobotomized enough like cod fans to think OMG WERE SO BACK after seeing a few leaks and a trailer
Show results, let me test them myself, then Ill see for myself if it is up to expectations
They gotta do a Beta like bf4 on shanghai that was so good to see
I already saw issues with the pre alpha that i doubt many changes will be made
There is this one CoD YTer who made a video saying "BF is BACK! with a thumbnail of his shocked face. People like him are part of the problem, no one knows shit yet
5, its difficult to make one under EA's control
No just make a beta where it’s not buggy and full of glitches.
Average clickbait for 12 year olds
bf4 beta was good and there were glitches but it had me feeling good when it came out
Honestly I’m going with 1
I think they should do like 2 weeks of open beta for any players to want to test it out, I am willing to put in time to give my input about the game
not just open beta for pre-orders
didn't the split fiction ceo just come out and say that ea was amazing and let the studio do everything they wanted without any interference
Ya it felt similar to 3
people love to shit on ea and put zero blame on dice
The whole point of a beta is to be buggy? That was delta force mistake the playtest was quite smooth when it came out new bugs were identified. That really what you want?
Its crazy how people think EA is the only one at fault
If the next battlefield isn't a live service then battlefield might actually come back on track
The DICE head of management is fucking horrendous
they should get rid of live service and go back to dlc/premium
Not happening
yeah idk how they think it works lol, as if ea tells them exactly what to do and they all just follow along
But how will they dripfeed content
It will never happen but it has killed most games
Premium system? That requires content
Ea told dice to copy what's popular so dice delivered on that with bf2042, we saw how that turned out
And you know what’s the crazy part? Lars Gustavsson was the director for 2042 
live service can work, we'll see if dice can do it with bf6. We only got a shitty drip feed with 2042 because they spent most of their time fixing the game and reworking maps
B-but people have lives outside of work, -and they need ample time to live out their life! No overworking 9-5 beyond
Like old premium service - you pay for premium get access to the dlcs or if not you pay as they come out
source?
We gotta take care of our employees so we need to dripfeed content, but its free guys!
Fuck you DICE
Wake up
Its your last straw
it won’t becuase as soon as bf launches with its 500 issues dice always goes on vacation like the job is done
I wanna play test so bad
like bruh it just started
Some EX dev on Twitter, some journalists reaffirmed that
Tom Henderson made an entire documentary about it
Its not brutal expectations to expect a game to work as intended
well they do have holidays as well, that's just a consequence of the release schedule
tom henderson, famous for being right twice a day
i do want to see that documentary though
Ex dice devs founded Embark because they were tired of chasing trends
im never going back to bf2042 after today of playing bf1
The mouse works in bf1
bf1 was great, bf4 tho is my standard still
bf3 is just dead
Thats solid enough reason to play it over 2042
we’ll launch a beta see how it runs in the wild. If it’s shitty delay that bih
Even if bf1 is not a sound game gameplay wise
What about all the layoff that ea made including some to the original dice team
Too much harm comes from brokenness
bf1 is way more immersive though than 2042 correct
bad look
bf1 was never a bad game, just did stuff differently which people disliked its still great in its own way
Depends what you consider immersion
bfv and 2042 were just awful
2042 had cod feeling
Narrative, mechanical, visual
yeah its the gameplay like the guns did not feel like battlefield xD
Ex dice dev says "It's important to remember, BFV was the first BF game to launch after EA's pivot to live service games. DICE was told they could no longer sell DLC packs (like all prior BF games), monetizing only via non-gameplay impacting cosmetics. After SWBF2's controversy, DICE was afraid of live service games"
i wanted a story to play a real battlefield game
we'll see how bf6 turns out, the split fiction article has me hopeful that ea had little involvement
"At the end of 2018, Battlefield V missed its ship date by a month and ultimately shipped a classic, unfinished, "we'll fix this in the live service" game. Pre-orders were bad because the exclusive cosmetics were ugly and overall sales were poor. BFV became the worst selling, mainline franchise game"
yeah and cosmetic system is great but blows when you add shit that takes away from the game, if they launch bf6 and then start adding pink goggles, spandex leggings, its gonna burn xD
EA will fuck it up someway
We will never get a game like bf1 again
there was an old game on the 360, forgot what it was called, but had perfect cosmetics, helmet, goggles, facemask, rig, gloves, everything youd want all milsim but the gameplay was fun
not codesk but shit it was like around or before bf3
Socom maybe
yeah actually probably that game
"The business people at EA have always looked longingly at Call of Duty and the gazillions of dollars it makes annually. Then they look at Battlefield and ask, "Why can't you be more like that???"
BF2042's performance gave Vince Zampella and Laura Miele their dream opportunity to turn BF into CoD."
I can't believe an ex dice dev is saying that
The OGs are gone
Because battlefield doesn’t release yearly games and manipulate its audience into spending money
yeah great shout, it was socom i was talking about - love for dice to do that style for bf6 and keep the gameplay similar/but still updated as to battlefield 3 and 4
He also said
"The goal is a new BF game every year. I think EA has a roadmap to achieve this, but we wont see the next game in 2026. If Beede sticks to his vision we'll get:
- A full priced main game with limited single player
- Seasons, Battlepass and live service slop
- A free to play mode like Warzone"
That's so sad
123456
Will admit I’ve not played it, was just a bold assumption knowing it’s a classic art style multiplayer shooter, was a lucky guess haha
And that’s mean the game will feel nothing like battlefield
Ea said the next battlefield will be like bf4 and bf3,
More like 70%
If they monetize it though DLCs like the old titles instead of making a live service, it will give me some confidence
Do not believe anything what they say, remember they told us that 2042 was right on schedule.
Idk bout you but I’ll just see what it has at launch and base a purchase off of that
The problem is they are actively CODyfying battlefield
No point risking it and buying into something for the potential it may have for the years after
It's not that much copy pasting
3/4 was nice it had a good blend of tank/air/ and infi maps
Nah 2042
I wouldn’t be mad if they had carrier assault aswell
so wrong
Idiotic baiter right here
aren't you the one that's always glazing that guy and saying he's going to save battlefield
Ripple effects is working on a br mode for the next battlefield
bf3 was completely different to mw2 at the time
They wanna take on warzone?
Me?! 😭😂
Bleh BR...
That I don't care about
bf doesn’t need a br
It doesn't fit in
what it needs is a giant ahh map with just tanks and we pick each other off one by one
yeah someone in here was always going on about that old dev that dice got and how he's gonna turn everything around
Cod fans probably thought the same before Warzone tbh
i think its just a happy feeling knowing he directed 3 and 4 and is now doing bf6
But either way I won’t play it so 
I mean blackout was ok…
Blops4 had a comp br
Had to find scopes and shi for your load out
Join the biggest Battlefield 6 Force today.
bf3 was just the next step from bad company wdym
Yep....
medal of honor warfighter mp was like the combination of cod and battlefield
That time battlefield was strong. Cod wasn't much bigger compared to today. So it worked back in the day
That was a great game though
amazing game
Look at the sales
How
i liked their operator system xD
Well there was bc1 and bc2 before 3
Yea and look at both franchises today, 💩
It was a game that ended to soon. R.I.P Preacher, mother, voodoo
Bf6 just needs destruction to keep the bc2 fans happy
Honestly bf is still better than the dumpster fire that is cod
cod stuck to its roots of a fast pace shooter still just lost it with warzone and nicki minaj and etc but battelfield like changed their entire gameplay over the years
But ye, it was a whole new engine too and more modern, pretty much shaped fps games with large maps today
Battlefield 3 sold around 15 million, compared to COD mw3 2011 Which sold 20 million
Best thing ever was planting c4 on the ground floor oh a house and bringing the whole thing down on a squad
cod changed drastically too, let's not act like bo6 is anything like cod4
We kinda don't need all the statistics dude
Hardline was more fun during beta, other than that I didn't like that one as much as 3 or 4
oh 100% but I like separating black ops from modern warfare
Point is battlefield was good back in the day to go against COD
then mw3
yeah
infected was ruined too somehow
Glitches
mw3 infected on dome was best memories
Yall don’t know nothing about javelin glitch
Mw3 infected terminal all you had to do was the door glitch to get on top of the plane and just keep bouncing around
and the airport kitchen on the bottom floor for arkaden
Yeah
Background music "kalinka"
That terrifies me to this day
Does anyone have good Battlefield 2044 controller settings?
Aim and shoot
nope, the AIM still sucks
no matter what I try
How do i know that they are not doing another battle royale to take against warzone. They even have the former warzone lead who might be leading the next battlefield br
i just got bf1 why do i have 27 unopened crates
It's included with the game
Did you get revolution bf1
and what will the test of the new game look like? I left the registration for the beta test right after its announcement and nothing has come yet((
yeah
I think it comes with it
oh right okay
never played a bf game before so i was a little confused
any tips for new bf1 players?
legit whys every game in bf5 a loss
Probably no one playing objective smh
ptfo
what?
capture flags n such
this would be considered incest to a 2015 battlefield fan
how to equiop russian levere action thing in bf1
the cavalry rifle thingy?
its for the scout class or cavalry
hi
im planning to buy bf3 and play online game mods. is this game still has active online players?
BF4 is a lot more active
Yeah
I bought it today, a little dead but not quite
3 or 4?
4
Um
There's 3.4k on steam right now
You need to go to server browser
And edit filters
yeah I know but my area is in Europe and I cant play a lot of servers
just german and russian servers
You can play NA servers
Just higher ping ofc
ping is high in these servers
True
I usually play with 75 or 88 ping
but with na servers it goes to 135
probably I should wait for new bf
So how active is BF3 on PC outside of sales? Playable?
so who is playing bf1
Is BF4 still active?
battlefield 4 irish And Clayton Pakowski > battlefield 2042 irish And R.I.P Clayton Pakowski
battlefield 1 is still very active in japan
does anyone know how to keep render.perfoverlay disabled in bf3? it keeps reseting when i die, and i already have it in a user.cfg 😦
Did you make user.cfg read only 
Well that's annoying then
Did you just get BF3?
On friday
Oh okay, was gonna ask if it was active outside of sales, I thought about hopping on
does anyone know how to maybe fix bf4 not launching? it keeps turning the ea app on and instantly shuts off right after, i installed all the visual redists and nothing works...
try joining games from battlelog
im on batle net
i fixed it by changing some nvidia control panel settings 🙂
well atleast it fixed my fps issues

Motive seems like a good studio. So I think it'll be pretty decent.
Hopefully it’s a linear campaign this time
Hey all, trying to get back into BF1 on PC but I keep getting an odd erro mentioning "Connection to EA Online has timed out". I can get into BF2042 and literally every other game just fine. Already reinstalled several times, no dice. Anyone else have this issue?
Rip Clayton😭🙏
At least he's alive in the new battlefield lol as it's modern
Wyd
I just repurchased BF1 for my xbox series x. At nearly 10 years post launch it should come with everything unlocked for multiplayer. Sucks i lost all my stuff I had took the time to grind on bf1 on my ps4
Hello, someone knows if the people from the south América could be available to play the battlefield labs?
At the moment it's only Europe and North America
Good thing 2042 has cross progression, next one should too. Real shame tho old ones dont
js met a rank s999 in 2042, hell nah
let's go back to old school ways by getting rid of kill cams and seeing a sniper's glare. You wanna know where you got shot from? figure it the F out like back in BF2 days. Listen to where the shot came from and where you were hit. I don't snipe, just sayin.
dawg..
my bad...not kill cams....seeing where the person shot you from. Bro, you dead. deal with it. you don't get to know, lol.
2042 doesn't have kill cams, and battlefield 4 had glint LMAO
did you not read my 2nd reply. i corrected what i said. 2042 does let you see who shot you and practically where from and gives you the ability to spot them to your squad. Get rid of it all. Don't want to die...then communitcate properly
Oh
would love it
but unfortunately people will cry that it's too hard
I’d like for there to be a giant glowing arrow above the person who killed you when you respawn
This would help with visibility issues
I just hope it has, battlefield 3 style maps, battlefield 4 timeline, also battlefield 1 graphics and character customization, battlefield V destruction. Also would like the 1st person take downs again, and the jets take off from runway and helos lift off helicopter pads
Oh and bring back bad company jdam and mortar remotes
I miss the stationary motar from bad company, let's up fly the ac130 too 🙌🏽
Please don't add skins like 2042 👎
#PTFO
Also Remember the peek and lean from medal of honor
Bf4 had glint but it wasn’t like everyone had access to snipers
These maps in 2042 are open and there’s not as much cover so it made sense for everyone to just pick a random rooftop to just camp on
Idk i rarely die to snipers
Scope glint sucks. There are scope attachments to reduce glint...hope they add that xD
On bf I just snipe with 4x without the stupid glint
I do feel it's important to have
it'd def needed
Or just limit amount of scoped snipers per game instead of having the annoying glint
Some servers can do that
i don't think that's beneficial to the game
and it doesn't really solve the problem
some players will end up leaving if they can't play what they want
and you still have x amount of snipers killing people with little chance of being seen
I agree with kato on this you cant limit the amount, if you play hell let loose you would see why i say this having x2 recon groups and they either make or break the match
That's fine
i think the alternative to glint would be bullet trails that last a second or two, but that'd look really bad and not suit battlefield
But at the same time i see why you say this as i’ve played bf in the past and most role as recon and this also messes with the match and uou end up loosing in like rush
Tracer rounds do that
Rather have tracer rounds than a spotlight glint
a lot of people tend to cower away at the sight of glint, if you see 4 glints on a hilltop then people will run to cover regardless. It's existence can have a passive beneficial effect
sure if there was no glint, those people would be unaware and get picked off, and they wouldn't then share that information with others nearby leading to more kills, but the effect it has on player behaviour as it stands now is still very useful
100% i played bf5 and you play the airstrip like one in the desert and you can see 6 scopes you know that you will be lucky to get one
in my eyes the best use of recon is to cover repeeks and control the orientation of enemies around cover, which glint actually helps achieve more than no glint
But i do miss bad company 2 days where snipers where stealth and its only when you caught the angle of the projectile it gave away they’re positioning
Arifica harbour was one hell of a map
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You don't have to say that in every channel....
i am just stressed out from past 2 days nothing worked still get this error
But it doesn't really help to spam it in every channel without context like that, it would be hard for most people to get what you're trying to say
ngl I thought it was an attempted scam
but tbf we don't have a dedicated support channel either
Was my first thought too
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A quick googling suggests that you completely reset your network settings on windows and reboot your PC
Or try to reinstall the launcher
Or just go into CMD type "IPconfig /renew"
Glint is essential honestly fck camping snipers
I would even propose to add glint to sniper red dots
Only iron sights would have no glint
Or just add the abysmal scope of m3 infrared again xD
No.
Let's see
Sniper glint generally needs to be removable imo.
Or at least made less significant than it is currently.
There's scope attachments for that IRL but maybe the devs could add that and add -accuracy or -range...with that to balance it
The amount of times I have been able to deny snipers their well deserved kills because I spotted their glint is ridiculous and only reinforces their uselessness on a tactical level.
I deny snipers by redeploying just before they get me xD
Yeah, killflashes and improvised taping of the objective lens, I am aware.
Most people here don't know anything about that,.just to point out
Add flinching and add glint to every sniper scope except iron sights 
No.
That would never happen
That is the stupidest suggestion I have seen you make yet.
I don't even play as a sniper when I play recon class but I can definitely identify that as a horrendous idea.
Sorry for not wanting to get shot by someone camping in a bush 
Just redeploy xD so they don't get a kill
If you don't want to get shot, FPS's probably aren't for you.
I wish I could bind redeploy
check my dm please
Just use 3x scopes 😂
Sniper rifles should not be nerfed, if anything they need to be buffed so those playing with sniper rifles can actually contribute more to the team than just reducing HP of a few players.
Snipers shouldn't exist, remove snipers, make DMRs recon weapon
Another really shitty take on the issue.
Again, the way to make snipers more relevant to teamplay isn't to nerf them into oblivion, it's to empower them to be able to make a difference.
Snipers shouldn't be relevant to teamplay, recon should be 🤷
Give recon DMRs and spotting flares or something
Snipers when employed correctly have a massive impact on gameplay flow.
Snipers does the exact opposite, some recon sits at the edge of the map or at the spawn trying to pick off players from 700 meters away
If you give recon DMRs they will sit at the back of assault, use flares and spawn beacons instead
Not a universal truth, however. You're always going to have that kind of player just like you're always going to have people with mortars camping in the back.
i'm not sure that applies for all snipers i tried playing bf 2042 as a recon placed down a spawn becon on objective and squad spawned in guns blazing and gave away the position
Mortars are removed and games were better for it
What a party pooper you are, they're fun to play with, hence why I'll always wait in corner for some sucker to be blasted by my shotgun xD
Since when is bf is skill based shooter? It's a casual game
well in HLL the recons job is to run around scoping for outposts and going to the back to take out arti so by removing mortars you removed a huge part of the recons job
BF isn't HLL
This is not HLL though, HLL is very different.
Ah ye recon on BFBC2 had mortar support, hope they'll add that back
i've played BF since BF2 and it has changed massivly since launch
I hope they will remove every recon perk from the game honestly, recon tree is unbelievably OP
They're both arcade games
I hope they remove you from the game 
Recon perks:
- Resistant to spotting
- Spots everyone they shoot
- Can't revive people they headshot
- Mortar out of their *ss for no reason

Well you can't revive anyone who got headshotted by any gun...
You can
That makes no sense then.
I honestly am not even going to continue arguing this with you since you have zero mental capacity for considering factors other than "i dont want to get shot"
BF players ain't even playing their own games 😂
There's a classic saying, "If you can't beat em, join em!"
You keep your opinion, I'll keep mine
Instead of whinning
Recon requires too little skill for the benefits it has
Mimimimi, soo much whine
i don't play bf 2042 because of bad experiences in the begining it was just ok but you try load in now its just spawn kill after spawn kill
I don't want to sit at the edge of the map and shoot players from 500 meters 🥱
To play recon well requires far more skill than you think.
Then do something else?, counter them maybe?
Or be at another part of the map
I played recon in BFV too, BFV recon was great, 2042 recon is just hitscan
Else alt f4
either lmg classes or assault or smg the play style is far too fast and is starting to be more like call of duty and should never be like that in a million years
Bf1 is better for sniping than 5.....
BF had CoD movement since BF3
bf V was and is a brilliant game you just load into a game now and it feels like you're playing with bots
tbh that's when i started to dislike bf
It's worse with the nofliers in the game..
BF1 is too cheesy, sweetspot is a terrible mechanic
I want play new bf
A team full of tryhards is not fun to play against
bf3 was the last ok game bf1 was meh in the beginning and bf5 was good
So what? It's a great game
i mean it still had its bad moments on metro
I agree
I had the exact opposite experience, love me getting killed by someone camping at their spawn with mortars 🥰
but battlefield 4 and 2042 damn they really let the ball drop

in my opinion
i'd love to get in on the beta to playtest as i'm currently unemployed but i'm not sure my pc would handle it it has a 1080 and a 8700k
Ah ye the mortars were great, especially at Amiens. I used it a lot xD
i tried playtesting for bfv but my laptop at the time just crashed i managed to play alot of the others
Of course
I had that GPU like 6 years ago, was a great gpu
yeh its about when i had my pc built
awesome gpu and still runs most games today wish the cpu wasnt as hotheaded
I am trying to play bf with a controller, it is so hard for me, I get used to playing bf with mouse and keyboard.
kinda wish they fetch back the medals like they had in bf2
i know they still have them but it doesnt feel the same without being able to earn a purple heart
bf 2142 was a fun game aswell i had high hopes 2042 was going to be the same but honestly it didnt reach that peak of nostalgia for me
how can i play the testing i love bf
it's probably a small population at the minute but you can sign up for playtests on the ea website i'd love to get in on it aswell
probably reserved for content creators atm
I have only played 1,5 and 2042 so on
is battlefield 1 strong population?
they usually roll out a playtest closer to the release date for a much higher % of players
this is usually to get a feel for server stress testing
i believe 'shrug'
Has anyone played this game with a controller 
which game?
I can't play any fps with controllers, just doesn't feel right
I tried but it turns out I need a lot of time for practice
i've played 2042 bf v bf 1 bf 3 bfbc2 bfbc on controller

i've played bf 2 bf 2142 bfbc2 bf v on mouse and keyboard
My thumbs don't agree with it when aiming, gives me thumb cramps,.great for driving though.... But I've been gaming on keyboard and mouse since the early 90s so I'll just stick to that
i started in the 2000s on pc but had a ps1,ps2 also played on the megadrive a little lol
cmdr homer ever play viet cong?
I did, back in 2003, great game
👍
A youngling
in the day that was a great shooter think the graphics would give me nausia now though trying to play on an old 32 inch 30 hz tv and damn
Back then I played it on 85hz 17" CRT
Gaming on TV back then was terrible for PC
talk about the nausia i have a 4k tv up on the wall but gives me kneck ache looking at it and its probs 60hz at best on pc
TVtooHigh
I was born in 2004, and I started to play video games on pc when I was 10
yeh i know but its great when im sat on the setee i just need a decent moniter
That was the year I built my first gaming PC xD
To play bf1942 and BF vietnam
Also BF2
that was one i missed out on i kick myself for it
Maybe I am younger than one of your computers
Well I also have a PC older than me Amiga 500 from 1985, still a fun retro computer
then i had windows 2000
👍
i dont remember the hardware was a little bit too young
I started gaming on PC when I was 5 and also learned how to reverse engineer PCs by taking them apart to put them back together
That's how you learn troubleshooting
yeh i was around that age also
In my memory my father got his first after 2010
First pc
i hated the keyboard and mouse connectors the green and purple was a circle with a notch out
Late...
so many different positions you could plug them in
PS/2 I miss those, they always worked no matter what
100%
There's one position to connect them
i played xbox also for halo /2
yeh that was the issue lol
I got my ps5 after a winter vacation’s hard work
you could be milimeters away from it you could waste a few minutes trying to plug them in at that age
With salary from my part time job
hard work pays off it's just finding time to play them when you work
honestly i miss work like hell but sleeps my biggest issue and then the toll it takes on your body
Sounds strange 
what does?
I’m not sure 
well tell me which part and i'll explain more ^^
work shifts and work with heavy parts and work everyday of the week and put in 12 hours shifts then maybe you might ^^
but i'd advise against it

I miss my childhood but I don’t want get back as I can’t play video games
I have my own pc after I finish my high school
My first ever game was Dungeon Keeper (from EA) 1996, for windows 95
What does it look like
mine was the medal of honors on ps/2 and the call of dutys
👀
First ps1 game I had was Omega Boost (JP Version)
i loved the first mission on frontline and used to wake up every morning at 3-5am put the tv on loud and keep playing that mission over and over
d-day
dont think i ever played omega boost
i didnt play alot of the early video games as i was too young
I’ve never heard of it, it’s too old for me

I heard that an94 is going to be added to 2042
it's too little too late for bf2042 xp with bf6 right around the corner
Is that means something to old players of bf
Many of my friends are talking about an94 recently
its just from the ak format
yeh somewhat
what's the point of adding the an94 if you all ready have a ak style gun in there
I don’t know
like i understand having the ak 74 and the ak 47 and the pkp
its like the m4 and m16 and the m21 ebr and then the mp5 and the mp7 there's a point in them because they are completly different guns
i get that the an94 and the aek 971 has different fire rates and its a goodway to launch to not give people the most op guns and to give them something to level for but at this stage what's the point?
Aek971 can only be used in close-range fire but ak24 can only be used for distance fire, how strange ak series weapons in 2042

its the m14 ebr not m21 ebr but they're called different things in different games and slightly different
probably different callibers
AN is a burst fire gun
Unlike AEK, AK24 etc.
whats the modern sniper that has a similar characteristic to the springfield probably not even modern anymore as most use the dmr platform with a higher calliber

yeh i get that i know theres different aks but they mis represent them in games as the ak that had burst fire did it with a single fire tap and was still 7.62 and was full auto
It will be burst only in 2042 I believe
I haven’t played bf4
If it allows you to two burst to the head it will be decent
Especially if hyperburst works like irl(no recoil)
well its less recoil
👍
you still get recoil but its almost as little as non i shot a 7.62 ak platform irl and it it left bloodmarks under my skin lol
cant remember the grains if it was cheap shells or whatever or expensive but damn it packs a punch
i also shot some 5.56 shells from a gun similar to the m4 and damn they fire so much nicer yeh they dont have the stopping power like the 7.62s but
yup it's why i dislike bf2042 it feels like every fight is miliseconds before you're up close
not only that but rush is literally rush now before as a defender you had a brilliant defence point in bf3 but in bf2042 the maps i've played is like your out in the open the classes with the wing suit and they're just in so fast it's unreal
sorry i made a typo i corrected it ^^
like i said we all ready have a call of duty we dont need it in battlefield
SFAR isn't the cover art gun, M5A3 is, M5A3 is also better than AEK with short barrel
Same damage model with far less recoil
i'd love to be on the playtest as i literraly have nothing better to do than to submit bug reports
and give my 10 pence as a 'og' battlefield player but i'm probably past the sell by date now
They have same fire rate
M5A3 short barrel > AEK any day
M5 also has better attachments
i signed up it would be nice to get an email though i'd love to get it on xbox but i can change my display for abit
Even MTAR in 2042 is better than AEK, same damage model but has far less recoil
and it would be nice if i could get the client to play with developers and bots even if it helps out the development
like i said i dont work so i have too much time on my hands and anything that helps me to pass time better i mean i'd love to be employed by a game studio to just playtest certain stages to pick up on bugs
but job oppertunitys like that are the rarest
and rightfully so when you can have people do it for free
i hate that they change the names of the rifles aswell cant we just have the days back when a m4 is a m4 and the m249 saw was the saw
Yeah lol 2042's weapon stats aren't accurate
Look into Sorrow's spreadsheet
It's an excel spreadsheet
that's another point why not update the stats ingame rather than having to go from a excel sheet?
High fire rate doesn't always mean meta in 2042 though. SVK is meta, slowest firing DMR. SFAR is meta, slowest firing AR. K30 is useless despite being fastest firing SMG. AC9, PP, PBX and even MP9 is better than that.
i thought they was swapping to something different than that lmg wise and it has a sliding barrel similar to the aek ?
to combat recoil and increase fire rate similar
similar to one of the guns in call of duty mw2 the new one cant remember the name
no i'm talking about irl
sig m250?
garandthumb check it out on youtube looks one hell
of a gun
looks like a real nice piece of kit irl with the easy changing barrels
they should add the tactical whizzbanger for the fun of it xD
yeh i do prefer m250 rather than the xm250
it follows on from the m249 better
yeh id prefer it be called m7
call of duty call it the RAAl-MG
I also remember they call every gun wrong... in some of their games
They don't want to pay licensing fee, that simple
^
meanwhile on Tarkov... they really dont care about the gun licensing xD
but that's a Russian dev
also dont they just called them like a 7.62 and have some text pop up above it?
like so the guns called a 7.62 in bold and the gun name above it in lower case an not in bold?
most slavic game devs seem to get the gun naming correct though, except on STALKER 2 but u can add a mod to it to display the right naming of guns
i never played it but probably watched videos on it
that's classic American anyway, suing here and there
I think that soon doesnt apply here in EU anymore xD, they can sue all they want, we'll stop caring
this is something else i also wanted to suggest to the devs like in bf v i loved how they added different uniforms for the different factions but and recently loaded up bf 2042 to see they have camo with the head and body but maybe to go further with it like in rainbow six vegas 2 and maybe make it so the medals you earn can be equipt to your uniform
austria is expensive
infact netherlands has a nice mark up on shopping items
zilla you from the us?
NL is also expensive
im sure i've played a match with you on bf2042 recently actually is ur ign zilla?
Germany is the only cheap country we border to
i know some parts of them is expensive
well anywhere around Randstad and the main cities are expensive
i did'nt know that tbh
you're already much better at geography than 90% of your country's people xD
out near eindhoven is where i like to visit
I used to head there every summer as vacation (before I moved to NL)
out near america near dusseldorf
i've stayed all over in europe though
france germany netherlands
u missed Belgium xD
yeh there also
I only went to Eindhoven for one reason only.... Dominator!!!!
what's dominator?
world's largest hardcore festival
yukk
best festival 😛
they have the best artist BBQ anyway, that's what I look forward to more and to hang out with friends there
although we have around 1200 festivals of different kinds in NL throughout the year
a shitty opinion
are u one of those that can only listen to one kind of genre? xD
its a very Dutch thing
although i do tend to go for a more relaxed music with bass
I listen to that too, really depends on the mood for me
yeh same here
well hardcore is only when I have the party hard mood
like 10 years ago when they released the saxophone beach bass stuff was nice
i mean the uk clubs 10 years ago had some good music aswell
i mean the stuff which would of being in ibiza also
and them islands
i'm just old
i used to like trance now its very dependant on the song
well with all music its dependant on the song
and the mood
the early 2000s trance tracks were the best tbh
but not all of them
like i said it's all situational
one genre I could listen to a lot is Drum&Bass and also Jungle
dnb is really nice to drive to
i dunno
like the recentiest songs i drove to was sound of vondel (oliver heldons)
like i said its all situational
sorry was making lunch if you could send me some over in DM would be appreciated if they're good driving/ gaming
DnB, Trapstep, dubstep and some others
i do love the kind of music Rocket League has
Trap Nation on YT always had solid stuff
darkstep and hardstep, I like of the steps the most 😛
Never even heard of those before
Electronic music subgenres
He probably figured that part out
theres insane amounts of sub genres
yup
so many that the apps all label them incorrectly half the time
what about mt eden
I usually just find the stuff with the best/deepest bass
mt eden is far from it cant really called skrillex bass
fingerprint lane 8 when the drum kicks in with a decent pair of earphones you feel like your ear is right next to the drum
i mean there isnt much bass in it other than that
I’ve found most electronic isnt as bass heavy except for the drops
You have to venture deep into dub to find it. Most of todays electronic still carries vibes from the old techno/trance days
they're pretty underground
has battlefield labs started?
There has been at least one previous test
one test is complete, this week will begin the second, so now we can say testes
(until there's been three tests)
testes is testicles you dingus XD
lol
people here really surprise me with their level of intelligence.... in a really bad way but that's to be expected
I dont know if i should feel insulted or glad XD
Yep, check email if you registered
@strong parrot thought you might like this one 
Mango
probably a later thing
i think the cod advanced movement damage to having fun in an online fps has been well proven over the years
Tactical sprint is pointless in BF
Ngl never liked tactical sprint
like sure it’s “useful” but like is it really a just have thing 
It'll be an email from EA
in 2042 theres no real point to it, if you can do it infinitely with almost zero downsides to go faster than normal sprint why not have normal spring be at tac sprint speed and just remove tac spring
Also, another thing is I don't understand why people when they post footage just blur out names.
Can't you encode like actual gameplay with like a code that they can detect
You're gonna get caught, no matter what right?
Teamchat has been in almost every BF game hasnt it
Well, they don't have to build it back into the game, so I assume it will.
2042 being a BR for like two years of its dev life wreaked havoc when EA decided to they wanted a "normal" BF title.
Not that I’m aware of. 1 and 5 don’t have it and I don’t remember 4 having it
Hello everyone I’m new to BF does anyone know if there is going to be a comp scene for BF
I don't know about team chat, but there's definitely all chat
No
There will be if they bring back platoons
I love esports but no.
Theyre probably not bringing back platoons
It’s only a marginal increase in speed anyways. Made sense given the longer distances you need to travel in 2042 over this (hopefully). Not too big a deal if it stays or goes
Which sucks since literally every BF prior has platoons
i didnt get invite ):
BF at its core (conquest and defense missions like rush/ops) is not at all compatible with Esports
Probably just keep checking through the days/weeks
Well with esports no
Surely there is a way to do it right and make it more tactical and indoors and make it like a 5v5 type of mode or am I just coping at this point
yeah many games in the past have had a very very faint watermark all over the screen with the player's id and other info. Sometimes you can only see it with certain filters applied, and i don't doubt that there's probably something like that in bf labs. Lotta people who think they got away are probably going to get caught
There's no downsides like slower ADS speed im fairly sure so why not just make normal sprint faster
Clan v clan though? Extremely competitive. Especially on console
Yes there is that, it's called CS:GO or Call of Duty
Get clans in public servers and we just go at it with each other lol
Literally just need to add a small team vs team mode and leave at that, it never needs to be a big focus, just something on the side
I love bf’s infantry mechanics far more than most comp shooters out nowadays, so would maybe consider playing some, but it doesn’t have to be a core focus that they spend ages on
I love how they from back You can lay on your back and shoot That's epic
Yeah I always like when games let you shoot on your back too
That’d be fun. But I still wish they’d bring platoons back. I don’t think people realize just how active clans still are currently.
bf esports has been a huge joke for over a decade
What I haven't saw is you can pick around corners gun first that'll be a nice little add-on as well
not every game needs it, especially bf
It’s not really an esports game. But it’s community can be seriously competitive
Peeking? The thing confirmed in the movement and gunplay log?
because the last decade the games was a huge joke
Sweet
Some games just need to be fun for funs sake
look at bf3 and bf4 we had esl majors
The game can be fun 😂 but it’s a shooter so there is nothing wrong with having a scene it’s healthy for the game
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hardline had a hostage cs clone 'esports' mode and like 2 people played it, along with the 10 total players
Tell that to 5. It’s still really active wether you think it’s a joke or not
If people indulge in comp then great if not then no biggie u still have these big ass modes
casual games tends to retain more players
BF is not condusive to any sort of comp scene
I honestly wish BF would create a casual mode for y’all. I really do.
I thought there was like esportBF or something like that
Haven’t even heard of a esports for Bf
like 3 fps games total are suited to esports, quake cs and maybe old halo
Casual? Hardly casual. Very competitive when clans start joining servers and we go at each other. lol
just because the game have clans doesnt mean its mechanics are casual
https://play.eslgaming.com/battlefield/pc/bf4/major/esl-one-bf4-summer-2015-cup-5-europe/ we used to have majors
Most BF modes are casual made. They can just be played closer to but not fully comp with clans, not like esports level but not completely informal
That’s fair. The mechanics I’ll agree are more casual. The player base though can definitely get competitive lol
battlefield is very casual, groups of people joining servers and pubstomping doesn't make it any less casual imo
doesnt mean it cant have a competitive scene
True
That’s fair too. Idk I’m used to my guys and I going up against 2-3 clans with another clan on our team.
Pubstomping clans arent that bad tbh
Good times
And the only thing u need to start it is custom lobbies, the ability to pick a competitive mode like a hardpoint inna sense, and make a set of rules and change the number of players in a lobby to cater 4v4 5v5 or hell even 6v6
I don’t want to force anything I was just curious
Hardly pub stomping anymore lol unless it’s a truly trash team on the other side
they did show that 1 close quarters bf3 map, maybe a tiny little niche comp scene will form idk
anything can have a competitive scene i agree
Hopefully they will bring back the legendary battlefield 3 and 4 maps that we all love
BF4 Clayton Pakowski Grave 🪦
I don't want old maps
I’m watching old games now to see what it was like
i dont love bf4 maps and its my favorite bf
I just want a couple for battlefield 4
casual shitting also implies that there’s competitive shitting
fun fact
And it seemed promising so I wonder what happened to that game
bf3 maps on the other hand ❤️
For sure
Oh we definitely do that too 😂 I’ve gotten PSN messages from other clans trashing us for losing. It’s great.
Dude if you want something like that CSGO or Cod Competitive is far more active and fits their structure better. Theres no major reason to want to do these sorts of comp rules on BF because its core identity as a series is really different.
Which title wasn't casual?
Because they all are
BF4 2013 > BF2042 2025
Or, hear me out, join a different server? We do that all the time when we realize a server is way too casual for us.
bf4 for instance had esl majors everywhere
bcl too
I’ve competed for 10+ years in cod I want to see what other FPS are out there and see if anything else could try and sustain a scene
That too, btw how big is your clan
I'll be honest with you bro, BF is not going to work in that scene. Idk many other games out that are similar to comp cod but CSGO might be good for that.
During peak of BF 5 around 20 people. We’re down to 6-8 with 4 core members.
I can also tell you at least 6 other clans definitely active in 5
What bf6
BF mechanics are much slower in concept compared to COD. It’s a big learning curve unless you seriously tweak your settings
Does your clan have strict rules around what weapons you get to use or you just use whatever so long as its good
We refuse to touch Boys AT or Panzerbouze (however you spell it). Also greatly look down on Type 2A (though I’ve been prone to falling back on it in super sweaty games). Shotgun players are annoying as heck 😂
Usually we encourage guns that help push objectives and keep each other alive
Those are very respectable
If you use anything but historically accurate weapons, you’ll get banned and probably called slurs
It’s tough but we are wolves among sheep
My STG and Type 100 fit the criteria. I’m good.
Maybe swap out for the Sturmgevher 1-5
I hate those milsim types in BF
Lmao
There is so fucking many of them on console lol
Straight facts
Desperation for a milsim game I guess
Console is such a different world from PC and players don’t even know lol
Squad would do crazy numbers if it was on console, but its probably never getting ported
I kinda wish i joined a clan in BF, i almost accidentally joined a milsim on this server and it sucked
Clans like TSC, TS*, AFMF come to mind
Reforger has potential
Good dodge good dodge
If you’re on PlayStation, clans in 5 are still really active
Yeah reforger and HLL gonna be the two major and well only current milsim games on console
1RDR, SIC, SoMF, BIA, WHAR, UMAD, 300, NRP
I unistalled 5 a while ago to make room for 2042, i got it off PS plus so i cant get it back
You dropped PS plus? Bold move
No it was PS online or something
point is im not getting BF5 again, im good w Helldivers 2
Bf5 needed more updates man they stopped too soon
pacific was just the start
Community was growing servers was filling up
I wanted some damn eastern front guns damnit
Same
Is that why Reddit has so many ppl demanding realism from bf6?
Oh probably
There’s a few tac shooters on console though
Some people just can’t play games without them being milsim
No reddit just be reddit tbh
Yeah I read some truly out there takes lol
Redditors are consistently fucking delusional
I mean are you really going to take reddit seriously on anything
Isn’t arma reforger doing well on console? I haven’t checked it out
“As a guy who has played battlefield for 8 morbillion years, I’m gonna suggest shit that has never been in a bf game and never should”
Yeah most ppl just play battlefield to goof off tbh
Bf has a little bit of everything it’s fun it’s real it grabs your attention.. the moment they cater to one side the other will feel left out
Some ppl take it way too serious
Smh I can't believe this level of dino nda breaking
Like there’s a limit to how much 32 randoms can coordinate
Sandstorm def is bias to real, both can coexist
See people like that are kind of dumb because they want a game to be something it really isnt.
Its like comparing apples to oranges, but you want to orange to taste like an apple because you only like apples
lmao I just haven’t been watching all the leaks. I saw what I needed to see
We back 😎
Game looks fun fr
recon would be happy
That
The tryhards are no fun in the game
If the game was too off balanced I’d switch teams to make it fair
Well I’m a tryhard hard tbh but I get that the best thing about battlefield is the sandbox
Everyone can have fun and feel like they contribute
If they have prox chat I think it would def add to the fun
Being able to communicate with teammates 📈
Could def have some fun shenanigans
Yeah I could fuck with that
I think “most” isnt accurate. Considering just how many clans and their members are seen now in a given server
It may be that players don’t WANT to see them. But theyre still there
Clans tend to congregate on specific servers though
I think it varies on platforms and regions
On BF4 i saw a lot of clans, not as many on BF5 and literally nothing on 2042
Yep no server browser
Plus clans were much more of a thing back then
clans were huge back in BF2 days. Then slowly simmered away after 4
Guys does anyone know why every time I’m trying to spawn on a vehicle in bf1 my game crashes
give it the ol restart
Like the PlayStation?
or game
like nintendo....blow in it
How do you restart a game? Is that a thing
You’ll need to unplug your console

