battlefield-legacy-titles

[elder knoll]

debris piling up

[subtle saffron]

yea and love the downed anis they brought back

[wet cove]

not into labs yet but them explosions better be michael bay amazing lol

[elder knoll]

wish they would clean up the animations though

[tropic folio]

there are leaks on reddit, they're great

tanks spark and sizzle before the turret gets blown sky high

[granite axle]

how do i get anti tank grenade kills shits so painful

[wet cove]

no spoilers i'm trying to resist the urge lol

[granite axle]

are there bot lobbys so i can farm them

[tropic folio]

pray

i've hated that challenge since launch

[granite axle]

fuck this game honestly

[wet cove]

whoa buddy

[urban rampart]

I hope they will make the movements a little faster because in the leaks I found them quite slow, although the movements should not be as fast as on bf2042 they should be a little faster and also add back the slide and no cancel slide

[subtle saffron]

animations are everything

[elder knoll]

personally as long as it's not cod movement it's fine with me

[wet cove]

^

[elder knoll]

BF4 was perfect imo, though it did get sweaty at times

not a fan of this slide cancelling thing

[wet cove]

i try to play BF4 again but the stupid anti cheat won't update lol

[wind quarry]

Really?

What do you define as sweaty

[elder knoll]

there is movement tech in the game, most commonly utilised by locker/metro players

but outside those maps in pubs most players just play it "normally"

[subtle saffron]

yea i agree

[elder knoll]

same

[rugged barn]

ehhh it could use more work

it is quite janky at times

[sharp barn]

Yeah I remember getting stuck on shit 2 feet high lol

[rugged barn]

Im fond of the simple movement, and if they add slide or dolphin dive, add a great punishment for shooting

[rugged barn]

prone and running doesnt fit lol

[elder knoll]

yeah it was buggy but I think if it can be polished, it'll turn out really good

[sharp barn]

I think a refined bfv movement would be good

[rugged barn]

yup

[sharp barn]

Prone in bfv can be janky too

[rugged barn]

but please, if there is sliding and dolphing diving, DONT ALLOW EM TO SHOOT WHILE AT IT

[sharp barn]

Sometimes you just randomly stand up if you’re on a small rock

[rugged barn]

Both are mostly used for defensive movement, shouldnt be used for aggression

[sharp barn]

I think that’s fine

[fervent valve]

What about dolphin dive but can only shoot with a pistol?

[sharp barn]

I mean I like the ice skating in bfv but I get ppl who hate it lol

[fervent valve]

But not like the big guns

[rugged barn]

just no, have you seen the omnimovement in BO6?

doesnt fit in BF

[sharp barn]

Seems a bit complex imo, would you press another button?

[sharp barn]

No I meant I agreed with you

I’m fine with toned down movement just make it smooth

[fervent valve]

Yeah i get it but maybe if you run out of ammo for the main weapon and switch to pistol

[sharp barn]

I do love Omni movement though

[sharp barn]

Hmm idk I think that could be p abusable

[subtle saffron]

do u guys think the community would like a requirement to use vehicles to prevent ppl just sitting on the menu waiting to spawn things, like a certain amount of points in a game

[livid bay]

No

[sharp barn]

There’s a mode in 2042 that does that I think

[fervent valve]

Hmm yeah true too

[rugged barn]

nope

[sharp barn]

I think a common complaint is if vehicles are based off points the matches snowball

[livid bay]

Cause that would mean no vehicles for the first minutes of a match unless it only kicks in after like 5 mins

[sharp barn]

Yeah whoever gets vehicles first would be at a tremendous advantage

[elder knoll]

what if a longer cooldown for a player that just used a vehicle?

[subtle saffron]

that could work

[rugged barn]

i mean, i liked how BF4 worked

[sharp barn]

That doesn’t seem like it would work well on larger maps

[subtle saffron]

thatd just mean people sitting on menus longer and not helping out

[rugged barn]

some vehicles spawned on captured flags

[sharp barn]

Running simulator

[elder knoll]

yeah thats true

[subtle saffron]

like maybe not put a requirement on all the vehicles just like jets and like really strong tanks

[elder knoll]

what if a system like titanfall that reduces the cooldown the more you participate in a match?

or would that just make it farmable

[livid bay]

The thing is, you’d have to seperate infantry point from vehicle points unless you want the same people getting the vehicles the whole match

[tropic folio]

that might incentivise people to redeploy as soon as they have enough score

[subtle saffron]

thats a good idea but instead of for the person maybe like the more objectives the faster the timer, kinda like bf5

[elder knoll]

man there's no good solution to this 😭

[keen magnet]

Does anyone here have some servers issues with battlefield 1 on consoles? Like soldier progression? Locked weapons etc?

[tropic folio]

yeah some problems you kinda just have to deal with, trying to make a solution just ends up with more problems

[subtle saffron]

like i think it depended on the ticket system, or maybe it was just the farther the longer the cooldown

[livid bay]

That would just mean that the already losing team would be at a disadvantage because they can’t redeploy vehicles as fast

[subtle saffron]

thats true but at least making ppl do something in order to be able to be afk on menus helps out the team

[sharp barn]

Some ppl play this game to farm infantry in a night bird we have to accept that

[subtle saffron]

it could be like you have to have a certain objective and if you loose that objective that vehicle is disabled for the time

[livid bay]

Like the objective vehicles in 4?

[subtle saffron]

so if that vehicle becomes a problem its on the other team to get rid of it

yea

[tight rain]

That would be an interesting way to encourage pushing objectives

[livid bay]

I don’t see too much of an issue with that

[subtle saffron]

yea they should look at that

[livid bay]

Yea. If people have an issue with it, they can equip launchers or use a .50 to make them go away

[subtle saffron]

do vehicle spawns usually take more tickets when they die or smthn?

[tired thunder]

or you can just learn how to be a good vehicle player

[elder knoll]

I remember in BF4 everyone would just rush that one flag for the AA or AH, ignoring other flags

and most of the time someone will be camping with a launcher or C4 anyway

[subtle saffron]

oh yea thatd be a problem with this

[tight rain]

Aye China rising was really bad for that

[subtle saffron]

but it could be like instead of a certain objective it could be a requirement to capture a set number

AA cant really do anything abt that though

[livid bay]

Imo helis were pretty easy to counter in 4 unless the other team had like 4 of them, so heli objective spawns weren’t that bad.

Literally every jeep could damage them with the mounted .50

[subtle saffron]

yea

[elder knoll]

rogue transmission was on my mind haha

[livid bay]

Golmud is what I think of for objective vehicles

The one with heli and other with mortar truck

[tight rain]

China rising maps had this bomber you could summon so everyone and their mother would try and get it. Didn’t help you needed to use that bomber to unlock I believe it was the ucav airburst or something

[elder knoll]

Oh yeah, that one

that wasnt too bad imo, it was only annoying because no one who actually needed the bomber could have a go, it was just active 24/7 and was always occupied

[sharp barn]

Guilin Peaks, that maps underrated

[tight rain]

I was a Silk Road fan

Love me some deserts

[sullen depot]

making a whole server dedicated to battlefield feedback and ideas? it just really needs remastered metro and locker

[tight rain]

God please No

Not locker

[uneven hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-like-sand-anakin-gif-11329322205351760612

[elder knoll]

why not, every battlefield game since 3 has had a metro

[sharp barn]

Metro is so overrated though

We need a remastered Fort de Vaux

[sullen depot]

I get it, however think of it like this: you have your big conquest maps with your vehicles and objectives, but if you want a bit of an xp grind or a break from serious gameplay, you got metro/locker

[elder knoll]

i actually liked fort de vaux

[sharp barn]

It’s the better meat grinder map tbh

[subtle saffron]

for when the game starts instead spawning in vehicles with the menu they should be at main so everyone can run to them

[sharp barn]

Metro can get stalematey

[sullen depot]

yeah thats the thing with metro, too cramped

locker did it good though, lots of flanks for the tight spots

[rugged barn]

they improved on the BF4 version

[stable sierra]

Am I dumb or like am I doing something wrong? I’ve been trying to get these 40 layers for like months and half a year, done bought premium over console and on pc, don’t see it anywhere on battlelog

[elder knoll]

Miss the sheer reverb of the explosions and gunfire on de vaux

24/7 insanity

What they should add, is the ability to turn into paper and dodge gunfire via a reduced hitbox

[stable sierra]

I’m asking here btw because like. Ea support is dookie from a butt

Straight cheeks

[elder knoll]

What is this 40 layers you are mentioning

[stable sierra]

Emblem layers

[tired thunder]

you cant use battlelog to make emblems anymore

it is on the battlefield companion website/app now

[tight rain]

It is le so over

[tired thunder]

@stable sierra

[wind quarry]

Idk how people can enjoy spamming grenade and spraying into a hallway for an hour

But I agree

[fervent valve]

BFV Operation Underground be like

[sharp barn]

I like infantry maps I just think there’s better ones tbh

[gloomy epoch]

does anyone if there is a discount on BF1 or BFV on any platform/Launcher?

[wind quarry]

Fr

No effort was put into that map imo

[wind quarry]

I love infantry maps.

I’m a medic main

But like

[tight rain]

Meat grinders certainly keep the medic work up

[wind quarry]

Maps where there’s like 1 flanking route and just choke points is not good design for me

[tired thunder]

ggdeals or isthereanydeals websites. and there is a steam sale on Thursday so probably both games will have a discount

[fervent valve]

Just medic revive points haven

[wind quarry]

I play medic

[tight rain]

Agreed

[wind quarry]

To heal myself

[tight rain]

Meat grinders ain’t fun

[wind quarry]

I heal teammates when in need

[gloomy epoch]

much obliged

[dusk bane]

It’s stressful ngl

[fervent valve]

Pretty chaotic

[wind quarry]

But I think metro better than locker

Locker has to be the worst meat grinder

[dusk bane]

Stadium from 2042 exists

[full hinge]

A and C aren't

maybe just B

[tight rain]

Its definitely a handful but there is something about the chaos that makes it fun

[fervent valve]

Agree

[full hinge]

mean grinder maps are fun

skill issue if you dont like em

[tight rain]

Fun but definitely doesn’t make meat grinders great maps for me

I rather an infantry map like they have us during the last season of 2042

[full hinge]

dropping 220+ kills on redacted is fun.

[tight rain]

Lotta area of chaos but not completely shoe horned into a meat grinder

[full hinge]

today i only had like 160 or so tho

😭

[tight rain]

Redacted is a really fun map for a medic

[full hinge]

i just pick mackay with pp 29

dont like reviving anyone

[tight rain]

If you have time to think as a medic on redacted then you aren’t moving around quick enough

[full hinge]

pointless to pick a medic in there

maybe only falck or irish

but playing without armour plate in there

nahh

[stable sierra]

Bruh

But when I use that it doesn’t work, I’m gonna just refund then ngl

[dusk bane]

Yeah it feels so much more rewarding I love the chaos

Definitely gotta take a breather after the match though

[tight rain]

Yeah i feel that

[ebon spear]

Is there any communication somewhere on the 30GB update I just downloaded for bf2042?

[uneven hollow]

we do got #battlefield-2042

[tired thunder]

are you sure tou are making emblems in https://companion-api.battlefield.com/companion/login ?

[reef plume]

Anyone know how to fix whenever I play bf1 and try to enter a vehicle the server disconnects?

[tired thunder]

anyways if you are getting emblems from websites like https://en.emblemsbf.com/ make sure you are searching for bf1 emblems

[stiff gust]

Hi

[wicked tulip]

When you play with R you play with the best. Join the biggest BF6 launch day force today

The future is now.

[fallen thorn]

Yo is the new bf labs scheduled to release this year?

[uneven hollow]

#battlefield-labs-news #1335997362258186292 #battlefield-labs-discussion

[subtle saffron]

whats the trk like in the new battlefield if it can be discussed

[fast mountain]

Any suggestions for snipers in bf5?

[verbal jewel]

zh-29 is my go-to

[earnest storm]

The trusty kar98 for sure

[uneven cape]

k98k

[earnest storm]

I think all sniper rifles are great honestly on bfV

[uneven cape]

every sniper the same for me even on bf1 tbh

[earnest storm]

same feel for sure.. however on bf1 its a bit different because they all have different 1 shot sweet spots

[uneven cape]

i always used the lebel

really satisfying reload

[earnest storm]

Yea that's a good one. I know the 1903 has the longest range sweet spot for 1 hit kills

[uneven cape]

yeah, russia 1895 really good too

i think its actually the weapon i have most kills with

or maybe it is the the gewehr 95 not sure

[earnest storm]

I was a bread and butter G98 user for a long time. After the DLCs came out I did enjoy the Lebel and Mosin

Not gonna lie lol as much as I love bf4 I think that was one of the worst sniping battlefields out there

No satisfaction what so ever for me but maybe thats just me

The rounds look like soft balls flying thru the air and the scope was like looking through a peep hole in your screen

One thing i'll give the lastest bfs, they do have great sniping especially bf2042...

[fast mountain]

Thankss

[earnest storm]

Yea it just wasnt it lol. bf4 is awesome but the sniping just did not feel right

And I always found it funny how all sniper thermal sights were 1x

I love sniping on 2042 with the 6x thermal scope

[fast mountain]

I haven't played 2042 yet but bf1-4-5 sniping is so good

[earnest storm]

I think 2042 is a great game if it didn't have the stupid operators

It's definitely a faster paced battlefield but I would dig it if it wasn't for the hero shooter thing

Glad the next bf is staying away from that trash

[uneven cape]

2042 just had a bad launch thats why it gets shitted on but nowadays it isnt that bad

[sharp barn]

The worst thing about the operators is that you can basically forget about being rezzed or getting an ammo box

Unless you’re playing break thru and on your squads ass 24/7

[tropic folio]

"just" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

it was a catastrophic launch with many fundamental problems

[sharp barn]

It’s not bad but not great either

[tropic folio]

but a lot of people haven't played since launch and still treat it like the same game

[sharp barn]

Hell the launch is arguably the most important part

[sharp barn]

If 2042 had a decent launch I could see it being relatively popular

[tropic folio]

eh

if it launched in this state i think it'd be better received, but still the most hated battlefield

[sharp barn]

It doesn’t matter if the Reddit neckbeards hate it if the casuals like it

And the player count did jump a lot during some sales

Btw I’m talking purely popularity not quality, I don’t love the game either lol

[tropic folio]

oh popularity yeah probably

[uneven cape]

indeed and thats why it became such a failure it couldnt recover after fixing everything, thats why devs have to be careful with launches cause one bad launch dooms the game forever especially mp

[teal fractal]

it 100% wouldnt get the same hate it does

but i dont see it being more popular than 5 and 1 with how roleplayers want atmosphere

[wind quarry]

You liked sweet spot?

[knotty ore]

So who da hail here plays bv5

[stable sierra]

This worked after skimming through a bunch of em, thanks, better than ea support

[knotty ore]

Man I’m looking for ppl to squad up with on b5 and 2042 too. Tired of randoms

Holla

[dapper hornet]

man i just vibe with a martini henry, having fun hitting shots then the team starts getting steamrolled because there aren't enough medics/assault/support so then i have to switch 😭

[full hinge]

reddit bf community is special

full of console players

thats it

i upload my aim clips in there to have some fun from comments

🤣

[sharp barn]

I got no beef with console just redditors

[full hinge]

they stopped reacting much tho😭

[sharp barn]

Were they hating on you for being sweaty?

[full hinge]

for having aimbot

[sharp barn]

lol the whole Cronus/xim accusations

[full hinge]

aren't they for consoles

[sharp barn]

Yeah I thought you meant fellow console players hated on you

Cause I see that shit all the time

[full hinge]

im mnk player

i dont know if cronus is a thing for me

[sharp barn]

Nah nvm then

[full hinge]

ive seen some cronus clips

bruh avg mnk aims better

🤣

[solid hinge]

these dudes

[shadow dome]

Will we see the return of the Bipod Knife in the next battlefield?

[tropic folio]

i hope so

[shadow dome]

I’ll literally prepare a bucket right now if dice announces that

[wise widget]

need a good subway map

[solid hinge]

so who else wants me to pop a tit, cus the answer is no

[shadow dome]

Do I even want to know what you mean by that?

[solid hinge]

That's how the dude asked me

[shadow dome]

I started playing games online in 2005 and I’ve never once heard that expression

But I get a strong feeling that in this scenario, ignorance is indeed bliss

[solid hinge]

Welp, just savin' y'all time if anyone wanna drop in with that kind of talk.

[ancient helm]

I would love to see customization elements for the soldiers dont get me wrong no pink stuff i wanna see some greedy soldier gear

[shadow dome]

Government issue chili-Mac rations

[tired thunder]

np. yeah battlefield companion only supports emblems made for bf1. bf4 emblems dont work

[rugged barn]

Ghost Recon style?

[magic vapor]

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[solid hinge]

Just applied for battlefield labs, how do I access it on PS5?

[magic vapor]

I'm assuming you will be instructed if chosen, assuming you have stated your platform

[solid hinge]

I guess? I did state my platform just not sure how to access it

[magic vapor]

When you get confirmation and instructions thereafter at some point unkown how long that is lol

[fringe pewter]

You have to wait for an email, but you also have to get selected

[ancient helm]

Yes pretty much

[shut fractal]

does anyone here prefer the new revive system to the old bf4 assault class type revive system

[ancient helm]

You mean squad mates can revive no matter what class ?

[shut fractal]

i mainly mean how you go down and have to either wait up to 40 seconds for a revive or opt out of getting revived completly

in bf4 you would just passivly get revived as you played the new system makes you choose

[ancient helm]

Ah yes now i know

I like the new one more actually

[shut fractal]

why?

[ancient helm]

You can Look around you and can choose whats the Situation is if there is a Chance for a medic to revive you or if there is more Enemy Players

And its more emmersive lol

[shut fractal]

but you dont get to choose if you get revived no? you can only opt out its still up to other players to choose to revive

you could deny revive in bf4 too

imo it should function just like bf4 where you get sent to deploy screen and if someone revives you while you're waiting to deploy then you can either accept or deny the revive

also because now it costs a resource to revive i dont see many people using their stims to revive randoms on the ground. ironically the new system thats supposed to result in more revives just promotes holding space and skipping the revive all together

[exotic leaf]

Just booted it up after buying it and playing it once on release, much has been fixed. Still wickedly broken.

Guess its back to the classics

[magic vapor]

Does that not feel like they are moving more towards milsim feel to play?

[rugged barn]

it was unbalanced as hell

make it BFV style, with animation that leaves you vulnerable with squad revive that is slower

[bitter pier]

Hot take, but battlefield 2042 is just a worse version of Planet Side 2, but with none of the MMO elements, all for the low price of $59

[unique harbor]

So I saw this 'leak' of BF6 gameplay footage and overall it looks good. My initial feedback:

• Player movement seems rather slow
• Bullet damage should be increased slightly (infantry and vehicle)
• There needs to be a physical effect whenever rockets are launched and exploded to nearby targets. This could be any comob of vision / hearing impairment and knockdown. I've seen infantry take out tanks with rockets closely and they're basically just standing there.

[solar musk]

Idk how I feel about this whole “PMC vs NATO” ordeal for BF6

Unless the PMC was on some maps, and then we get say Russia on other maps I wouldn’t mind it. Almost like how Wagner was helping Russia in Ukraine not too long ago

[gusty lantern]

slower movement --> good
ttk looks fine to me
this was never a feature in bf

[ancient helm]

Haha i loved bf3 but i remember me running around metro and revive 20 people in 2 seconds it was way to fast

[gusty lantern]

bf2 was even faster

i rember one match where we all ran around as medics

we never died

[finite mauve]

Well movement is slow lime battlefield 4s

[exotic leaf]

Dont tell me imma need to get another game 😤 😒 lol

[bitter pier]

It's free.

[tropic folio]

is planetside still alive

[livid bay]

• It seems to be dialed back to a slightly faster speed than bf4. Imo this is much better than fast speeds like V or 2042
• Imo TTK is already very fast
• Yeah, I agree. Making explosives have visual power is good

[tropic folio]

knockback from explosions like bfv would be good

[bitter pier]

About 1100 players on the weekends. Not nearly it's peak. But it's barely noticeable when playing.

[tropic folio]

shocking tbh, is it getting updates?

[bitter pier]

Yes actually

[livid bay]

Yea. Having tanks actually rock when hit would be good too. It's a bit underwhelming to hit a tank with a rocket just for it to stay completely still (2042)

[winged sable]

Bind reticle to screen center.
No suppression.
No HC modes.
BF4 movement.

[sweet stone]

Is that a shopping list or

[winged sable]

The musts for the new BF game to survive.

[sweet stone]

Why no suppression? Why no HC modes?

[winged sable]

Suppression is effectively a reward for missing your shots.

No HC because it divides player base.

[sweet stone]

Gotten suppressed a lot? Lmaoo

[tropic folio]

suppression is good but only as a visual effect

[sweet stone]

I remember suppressing enemies to allow for team members to push

[winged sable]

If it visual, it’s fine, but if it affects ability to hit shots it is genuinely a neurodeficient implementation.

[tropic folio]

real

[sweet stone]

Disagree entirely, it adds a layer of tactical gameplay

[exotic leaf]

Wonder if the devs read any of this imput

[sweet stone]

Instead of „me shoot enemy better than enemy shoot me“

[exotic leaf]

Probably not

[sweet stone]

Don’t think so either; this discord is in no way representing the customer base

[tropic folio]

at a fundamental level it rewards poor aim, it's not only just suppression

[winged sable]

BF is not a tac shooter nor a milsim; despite the nuerodeficient takes that BF is.

You want tactics? Go play Arma.

Honestly, at this point, I am beginning to think that it is cope that people want to turn BF into a milsim.

[sweet stone]

If it’s not milsim, then I don’t see anything against suppression as arcade element

Except personal preference

[winged sable]

Then you are nuerodeficient.

[sweet stone]

whatever you’re trying to express with that

[ember crag]

EVERYONE'S BATTLEFIELD™

[hybrid stream]

Signing up for labs was broken . Kept sending me back to my ‘alerts’ where it showed I have skate and f1 but no battlefield lol

[winged sable]

Suppression is literally the most hated feature from the BF3-BF1 games.

From anyone that is a competent player, at least.

And barring the BF3 blue filter.

[ember crag]

Anyways

Where's my invite EA?

[hybrid stream]

This guy knows battlefield. Nobody else does.

[ember crag]

I promise not to leak anything

[ember crag]

EVERYONE'S BATTLEFIELD™

[sweet stone]

Must be everyone except me then

[livid bay]

Only conquest because more than 1 gamemode divides the player base

HC is good because some players prefer to play it over normal

[errant pebble]

Wish there were more bf4 servers, would love some conquest on propaganda rn

[winged sable]

You only prefer HC if you have skill issues, IME.

[sweet stone]

I don’t understand the fear of a „divided playerbase“ because it only becomes relevant when most of the playerbase has moved on from the game anyways

Like server population is the only reason one might fear that

[livid bay]

HC allows for different tactics and playstyles than normal. It's also slightly more realistic for the realism buffs

[ember crag]

He doesn't want to divide the player base because then he won't have anyone to kill for his montages on his 20 subscriber YT channel

Sad!

[winged sable]

HC is a breeding ground for campers. Again, if you want tactics, go play Arma, Squad or Insurgency.

[sweet stone]

I get it. HC is more difficult because shooting back is suddenly not an option anymore

[ember crag]

Anime profile pic --> opinion discarded

[livid bay]

Or play HC since it's literally just setting changes. There's nothing the devs have to add that they don't already have as server settings in every game

[winged sable]

Only normal response I’ve seen here.

[winged sable]

lol; lmao even - are you going to argue for no server browser next?

[livid bay]

server browser directly helps HC? Iirc HC has never been something matchmaking sends you to

Just to be clear, we are talking about hardcore, right?

[winged sable]

HC is just foolish; the server browser tangent is just that - ignoring the HC neurodeficient position that it NEEDS to be included in an arcade shooter.

[sweet stone]

Kid treats hating HC like a 9-5 gotta respect the hussle

[winged sable]

K boomie

[livid bay]

Well yeah. A server browser is necessary for BF. It's one of the reasons I don't play 2042. not having it heavily limits choice

[winged sable]

Holy shit. Common ground.

[livid bay]

I just don't see a reason to not include HC. It's just a server setting preset that people will inevitably make anyways (if they allow us to rent servers)

[winged sable]

There are numerous issues with HC.

Balancing being one of the most apparent.

[spark mango]

Will EA address the server crashes on BF4? Been forever and servers still getting attacked

[winged sable]

Trve

[livid bay]

so do gamemodes. splitting the player base isn't something we should be worrying about unless it's a massive split like with premium

[tulip grail]

are there actually devs on this server?

[livid bay]

EA took it over a bit ago, so yeah

[sweet stone]

TDM splits the playerbase, get rid of TDM I do not like TDM

[winged sable]

While the divide that Premium did cause was bad, at least the quality of the DLC was vastly better than anything we have seen out of Live Service from BF studios.

[clever oyster]

Yo just wondering if anyone knows roughly when the beta will be released

[livid bay]

Nobody on HC claims they're really good unless they're stupid. A vast majority of people I see on HC are just people hopping on after a 9-5

[sweet stone]

And that’s an issue because ….?

So you’re just a hater

Yeah … why is that an issue?

No this is Patrick

[clever oyster]

Is this the krusty Krab

[winged sable]

HC players have this tendency of thinking they are better players because “muh tackticks”, but in reality, these players just cannot adapt nor compete against core players.

[sweet stone]

I don’t see any reason to shit on HC. If people wanna play it let them play it. And the divided playerbase seems like a fake reason to hate. What do you care? If people find joy in it let them

[winged sable]

Simple as that.

[ember crag]

Lmao I don't think HC did a significant split of the player base in BF4 or BF1. Maybe you're just a 2042 bum, then in that case yeah, your shit dead game got affected.

[winged sable]

If you find joy in a HC game mode, just go play Insurgency.

[livid bay]

BF games that have had a hardcore mode:

• BC2
• 3
• 4
• HL
• 1
• V
• 2042

[sweet stone]

So you’re just mad due to some some weird ego issue

Heck yeah great idea should pitch it

I bet people would have fun

Not u tho

[livid bay]

If you don't find joy in a HC game mode, dont play it

[ember crag]

Like, dont like it dont play hc then lmao

[livid bay]

just play normal and let the HC players play HC

[west tundra]

yeah I never touch HC lmao but it has its purpose

maybe they make a good enough game where each one has a healthy amount of players /shrug

just a thought

[ember crag]

Proof? Where are your numbers to back this up?

[livid bay]

Who cares. Really, who cares. BF has thousands of players. Hundreds of thousands at launch. There's enough players to split

[ember crag]

Lmao bum 🫵 🤣

[sweet stone]

it spLitS tHe pLaYeRbaSe

Name one actual downside because you keep repeating that. Are you just butthurt bf3 and bf4 are not as populated as in 2014?

[west tundra]

lol if the game dies I'll just play something else

¯_(ツ)_/¯

or just play bf1 or bf4

so many other things to do than be a grown ass man worrying about a videogame dying

🤣

give me one job application

[sweet stone]

Okay are you ready for the argument

Are you ready

It’s gonna be huge news

Because some people enjoy playing it

[ember crag]

Its rage bait guys. Move along.

[sweet stone]

I know - mindblowing

[livid bay]

Because people consistently play it in every game. If people didn't play it, I'd be all for removing it

[tropic folio]

that guy baits all day then blocks people when they realise

just ignore him

[sweet stone]

Anyways, ignored and blocked. Both you comedians

[west tundra]

ragebait successful lol

bro got nothing to do

[sweet stone]

Now to the real question - battlelog yes or no?

[tropic folio]

always

[gleaming schooner]

bf4 servers crashing for anyone?

[livid bay]

Could have it. Could not. It has some pretty cool stuff, but imo it should just be integrated into the actual game

[west tundra]

doxxing or just something wrong with EA servers

like always

[sweet stone]

I liked the social media aspect of it, I think it’s something they want to expand with the new title. Actually having a community

[west tundra]

had matches restart and servers reboot mid match so annoying lol

I still use battlelog lmao

for some weird reason it only gives accurate players counts

the ingame for BF4 is totally broken and doesn't update a 64/64 server when joined really is just 3 ppl flying around

i just open battlelog verify the playercount and join in game for the last like 3 years lol

cool process though if you had a favorite server go on the site, click play and it will auto boot and join

[sweet stone]

I liked actually having a profile, you could highlight battle reports and stuff

[west tundra]

it was really easy to check challenge progress as well

[livid bay]

I wish I could do that. The only bf I play regularly on pc is HL which is 6 feet under and rotting

[west tundra]

and stat rundowns

i play conquest and rush a lot and sometimes still get a random double commander like last week

[livid bay]

Y'know, if commander returns, having a commander mobile app like 4 could be cool

[west tundra]

bored of modern setting >BF1
bored of world war _ setting >BF4 and I juist swap between them lo

l

[livid bay]

I don't think it will return, but it would be cool

[west tundra]

the ads for the mobile commander were so funny

like man I think I'm gonna go to the cafe grab a coffee then drop cruise missles and quad bikes in a multiplayer match with 64 players

[sweet stone]

I remember putting the commander app on a family tablet

Was fire

[twin needle]

I’m gonna give an unpopular opinion

Bf1 operations and shock operations is fun and immersive

But unbalanced

[proper valve]

i have a take that should not be controversail: HC has no place in bf

[twin needle]

What’s HC?

[proper valve]

hardcore

[twin needle]

Oh Hardcore

I can see why, it actively messes with weapon balance

So here’s a few thing wrong with operations and shock operations

[livid bay]

Hardcore. Basically just a server preset that some people use that people hate for some reason even though it isn't really ever used in matchmaking or official DICE servers

[ember crag]

Hmm I wonder what a lower health pool would do to weapons

[twin needle]

1. Objectives; I personally believe that when I’m on the attacking team, I spend more time defending then I do attacking and when I’m defending, I spend more time attacking the weakest defended other objective

Simply put if the attackers capture an objective in a sector

It shouldn’t be possible for the defenders to take it back

[livid bay]

There isn't much they can do about that. If they changed it to anything else the game would go by in a flash

[twin needle]

You are playing defense

You need to learn to defend, letting an objective fall should be punishing

2. Spawn timers, defenders should have a 20 second spawn limit at the least

It’s either that or permacapped objectives

[livid bay]

I'll listen when you have an argument that isn't just "it splits the playerbase"

[ember crag]

Xbox player
Pronouns

Sorry, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to dismiss your opinion. Nothing personal.

[livid bay]

since when was being casual bad?

[twin needle]

Nothing personal to you either chief, I’ll dismiss yours

[proper valve]

Casual as in they enjoy hc? lmao

[livid bay]

In which game? I don't remember any of them having one. Maybe 2042, but it was more themed than pure HC

[twin needle]

What about what I have to say about balancing bf1s operations?

Obv for another game to have it

[livid bay]

Did it? I always thought it was just a server preset since I didn't see a matchmaking thing for it

The casuals are the vast majority of players. If anything, the sweat opinions dont matter

[twin needle]

Yes but they are the majority and make up the main buyer and player audience

[proper valve]

I think the sweats have better understanding of game mechanics

[twin needle]

Grass is green and the sky is blue

Why do you think they’re called sweats?

[proper valve]

like still know body complains about 2042 mouse input lol

[livid bay]

Pandering to the minority is just bad business and bad community management

[proper valve]

yeah, insane

[livid bay]

You're saying the majority's opinion doesn't matter. This is literally saying that the minority (the sweats) should be the only people who provide feedback. It would mean that everything panders to the minority

[tropic folio]

good players provide feedback on what works for them

the majority still knows what they find fun and what they don't, they're not stupid lmao

[twin needle]

When you suggested that when the majority doesn’t understand the game when they complain about something gave us that assumption

[sweet stone]

Are you still talking to the HC clown gang

[proper valve]

waste of time fr

[twin needle]

I don’t like hardcore myself but i can stick away from it np

[livid bay]

Fr. HC doesn't do anything to hurt the game. If someone doesn't like it, they wont play it. If they do like it, they'll play it.

[twin needle]

It doesn’t no but it’s the way some people want to play

Let them

It doesn’t hurt anyone else

Because it’s the way they want to play

Absolutely it isn’t, but it’s how they wanna play it

[proper valve]

yeah

[twin needle]

If someone wants to have a hardcore fast tank spawn server on Golmud railway let them

[livid bay]

It's going to happen anyways. As long as people can customize servers, people will make HC. It's literally just a settings preset. There's nothing new they have to add that they wouldn't already add with server hosting

[twin needle]

That’s their choice

It’s just a settings preset

Go find a server with regular options

It’s not that big of an issue

[livid bay]

As long as MP has a server browser and server hosting, it will appear in the normal game

[twin needle]

Me too honestly but it’s how some people wanna play, it’s not a big concern, it’s after all, just a preset for a custom server someone paid for

Here’s an opinion

Operations can replace a campaign

I said it

[livid bay]

Eh, they serve different purposes

[valid linden]

Get a load of this guy

[twin needle]

Ok? Let them

If that’s how they want it let them have it and avoid it

It will do you no harm

[livid bay]

A real gamemode that was basically just tweaked server settings

[twin needle]

We keep going around this loop

It doesn’t add anything no besides actively mess with the weapon balance but that’s what people want

Let them

Avoid hc lobbies and there’s no issue whatsoever

[queen pier]

just have them do what BF4 did and let server host decide settings and content

[livid bay]

Operations barely even have a story. Idrc whether we have a campaign or not, but operations does not do enough to replace a campaign

[twin needle]

That’s why I said ‘can replace’

If developed further, I believe it can.

But it would have to be different maybe

Or maybe perhaps an online campaign would work better

Battlefield is the only game series I’d advocate for that

Besides let’s be honest battlefield campaigns are usually disregarded

Not ignored, disregarded

You know who Irish, Dima, Blackburn is etc

Exactly

Make it an online campaign similar to operations

Take notes from titanfall 1s campaign

The scope of all out battle simulator is too large for the prespective of one soldier

[livid bay]

I don't really think you can develop it to that level without major issues. For example, how would the matches themselves work? Would you just be joining random servers on the designated map with story missions you have to do? That would basically just be MP with extra steps

[twin needle]

There needs to be all out battle

[twin needle]

For one I would be suggesting adding the same level of immersion like bf1 did, second I would also advise specific built maps

It was filled with issues

The best one was through mud and blood

[proper valve]

no one remembers any bf campaign tbh

[livid bay]

the issue with specific maps is when the player count gets low. What if you can't complete the story at all because there isn't enough players to fill the match you need?

[twin needle]

What’s even worse is that Avanti Savoia which depicted the arditi (an elite Italian shock trooper unit famous for using knives and grenades) and portrayed them instead with the sentry kit from MP

[livid bay]

Imo the most memorable was HL, but it didn't get the attention it deserved because, well, HL

[twin needle]

Imagine how fun it would be storming enemy trenches like how the arditi actually did from a gameplay prespective?

[twin needle]

I’m sorry? Hardline?

Most memorable campaign?

Over battlefield 3?

[queen pier]

COPS and ROBBERS, a rare campaign story in major FPS titles

[livid bay]

I sadly have not gotten the chance to play 3. I want to tho and my ranking will probably change based on what I hear of it

[livid bay]

It was memorable for me because of it's tv-show theming. BF4 is a close second for me, but it's hurt by an incomplete storyline

[tropic folio]

i remember the fact that it was a cop tv show

but i couldn't tell you a single character's name

[livid bay]

Neither could I

[tropic folio]

most memorable for me is prob bf4

[livid bay]

4 has the most memorable characters

[queen pier]

in BF3 you played as blackburn with a bunch of redacted info

you keep getting interogated into the next story

[livid bay]

Recker and Irish are really memorable

[teal fractal]

They arent very memorable yeah

[queen pier]

"i dont wanna die listening to this song" ... memorable

[teal fractal]

I heard they will put in more effort for bf6 story

[proper valve]

i wouldnt bother with making a campaign if i was dice

[livid bay]

What do y'all think about unlocking guns via the campaign? I think it's a cool idea

[teal fractal]

But i cant really imagine what itll be

Might be good

[livid bay]

Considering they put a whole studio on it, yeah

[teal fractal]

If not then people will ignore and play multiplayer anyway

[livid bay]

They are. DICE isn't touching the campaign

Nor the BR

[queen pier]

IM SICK OF BATTLE ROAYALES

[dusk bane]

theres different studios working on these

[teal fractal]

Battleroyales have to be the most boring gamemode to exist lowkey

[dusk bane]

br's need to hurry up and die

ea*

[proper valve]

they already have been on the decline, bf is crazy late to the party

[dusk bane]

yeah

[livid bay]

Well yeah. They're the main studio. They aren't using their devs for it though

[teal fractal]

Idk i wont judge yet, i expect story to be mid but good enough

[jolly fog]

Hunt Showdown used to be pretty good for an extraction shooter, other than that I don't really like BRs

[wispy zephyr]

BRs are dead, what's left is cheat vs cheat matches (aim assist vs external hacks)

[queen pier]

facts

[twin needle]

May he rest in peace.

[jolly fog]

H1Z1 days were lit

[livid bay]

Imo BRs are already dead. Fortnite is the only one that's gonna last more than a few months. Even CoD is debating pulling the plug on Warzone

[queen pier]

if you are bad at shooters like me you spend more time loading into a BR or looting the starting area than playing the game

[dusk bane]

yeah they were cool for like 2 or three years

[proper valve]

yep

fuck bf br

[dusk bane]

cod needs to hurry up and get rid of that shit

they dont even know how to manage their own br

[proper valve]

cod already sucks so much ass anyway

[dusk bane]

its pretty embarrassing

[wispy zephyr]

if it's on the 2042 engine and they still haven't fixed the input, all the people coming from other games are going to catch on immediately and trash the game everywhere

[livid bay]

I don't think it'll be massively buggy since they're doing a lot of playtesting, but yeah. It's most likely just going to be generic slop

[dusk bane]

yeah they dropped the ball after mw2019

[livid bay]

The best outcome is it being an amazing gamemode that launched way too late

... fair

[atomic iris]

did they fix bf4 server ?

[livid bay]

Frostbite is worse than Unity when it comes to bugs

[dusk bane]

yeah was just playing a couple of hours ago

[atomic iris]

ty i will go see

[queen pier]

COD omnimovement and ultra fast paced combat has slowly killed the game, plus excessive microtransactions... yikes. it used to be a more true to action gameplay style like medal of honor... what slop it turned into

[atomic iris]

what they just need to do is copy bf4 movement and paste on the new bd

bf

[dusk bane]

it hurts playing 2042 due to that sometimes

[proper valve]

it hurts all the time

[atomic iris]

2042 doesnt feel like a bf for me

[dusk bane]

just have to alt f4 it most times i play nowadays

[atomic iris]

ass on all the way

[livid bay]

As someone who has debated selling my soul to Unity, yes. Unity's bugs self-solve after you scream at it enough. Frostbite doesn't even give you that comfort

[queen pier]

at this point Delta force is a free version of BF2042... and its not bad considering its free

[atomic iris]

delta is better then 2042 100%

[wispy zephyr]

cod was always comparatively fast to other games, the only difference now is that aim assist (autorotation on both sticks) lets you ignore the increased speed and new mechanics

[proper valve]

aim assist fucked cod

[jolly fog]

matchmaking fucked cod

[elder compass]

lol been playing for 2 hours, have yet to win a game tonight. why's playing with randoms so difficult to win a game?

this is ridiculous

[queen pier]

SBMM also hurts multiplayer. if i wanted to play a similar skill level that already has a name... caled RANKED

[proper valve]

yep and sbmm

[summer forge]

What’s the point of getting best squad or being in top 4 if you keep losing games as a team

[livid bay]

Also mono threading. Newer unity versions have the ability to add multi-threading, but it's something you have to actively turn on

[dusk bane]

watch the next battlefield game have sbmm

[wispy zephyr]

one must imagine sisyphus happy

[jolly fog]

SBMM is fine but CoD does not use SBMM they use their manipulative EOMM made by Demonware (fitting name), SBMM compared to CoDs EOMM is like a piece of cake

[livid bay]

to add sbmm they'd have to remove the server browser. Idk about anyone else, but I'm not buying the game if it doesn't include something as basic as a server browser

[proper valve]

sbmm is not fine

it ruined modern fps

[copper haven]

[jolly fog]

Not really but at this point I'm fine with it after dealing with their eomm for so long. but yeah I would prefer it to not exist

[dusk bane]

i hope they realize this is a selling point for most people

[queen pier]

its fun to bounce between taking out noobs, and being destroyed by a pro. you have a good time, and also learn a ton. better than having to be sweaty in every CASUAL match all the time.

[dusk bane]

did they even state why theres no server browser

[livid bay]

I don't believe so. There's one in portal, but not in the normal mp. Maybe they thought it would suffice

[queen pier]

Server browsers are great though. it sucks trying to load into a game mode, just to be stuck in a pre game lobby that is being seeded by NOBODY and have to back out and try again over and over. I would rather just find a 3/4 full lobby to dive into

[livid bay]

Fr. It also allows you to somewhat pick what map you want to join, what server rules you want, etc

[queen pier]

its not usually a big deal when the game launches and the playerbase is high, but when the hype dies down a server browser is king.

[wispy zephyr]

the new generation of fps kids are scared of server browsers

it's something i hear from old tf2 players that are still sticking around

[queen pier]

BF3 and BF4 just had a quick matchmaking option if you didnt want to look

[livid bay]

yea. matchmaking is essential when pop is high while server browsers are essential when pop is low

[queen pier]

imagine playing squad, arma(any version) or even hell let loose without a server browser. that would be miserable. Although those are FAR more MIL-SIM than BF.

[dusk bane]

oh god no

[queen pier]

It also makes it easy to host a server with adjusted settings per the wishes of the host, which could make a content restricted server or even a HC mode as much as some people dont like it

[dusk bane]

squad community would be in shambles

[queen pier]

BF in my experience has never been a modders game, but the modding community can keep a decent game going for many YEARS after the hype train leaves the station. Even without mods specifically, adjustable setting servers can be a partial cure to that.

[wispy zephyr]

at this point i think they need to clamp down and make it impossible to create HC servers so i don't have to read the opinions of people who trolled themselves into thinking BF is a sim franchise

[livid bay]

least obvious rage bait ever

[proper valve]

yep

[jolly fog]

Always has been a MilSim
Always will be a MilSim

I'm joking

I felt so cringe typing that

[proper valve]

go play arma if you want that

[wispy zephyr]

if you talk to bf4 hc people you'll understand immediately

[jolly fog]

Ready or Not is alright

I guess for PvP I'd play Insurgency but I think that game is dying

[livid bay]

Sandstorm? Yeah, PvP is dying. PvE is what I see played the most

[jolly fog]

Yeah that, I played some PvE a while ago, not bad

[livid bay]

I prefer to play modded PvE. Improved AI is scary when there's 500 of them coming after your team of 10

[jolly fog]

500

[livid bay]

That's only the annoying loud ones. I played hc a lot and never thought it was a sim. It's just bf with faster ttk, less spotting, and no vehicle 3rd person

[livid bay]

hyperbole. Though, it can def get to like 75-100 at a time depending on the map and server settings

[gleaming sage]

Any news on Battlefield 6?

[candid glacier]

how long does it take to usually get accepted for BF6 playtest

[drowsy lake]

3.5

[gleaming sage]

Have you signed up for Battlefield Studios?

[pliant nymph]

there is no playtest. take ur meds NOW!!

[finite mauve]

Random

Not a time you get accepted

Its just chance

A dev said getting accepted to the test on March 7th was basically winning the lottery

[candid glacier]

my bad man im j fried rn

[spare canopy]

when is Bf4 going to be fixxxeedd omg I'm tryna play

[errant pebble]

I was playing all day no issues

[tired thunder]

only if you are from console. pc is having issues for 3 weeks now

[jolly fog]

Played yesterday on PC and no issues, maybe I got lucky

[tired thunder]

yes you got. 5 min browsing reddit or ea forums and you can see plenty of ppl reporting server issues

[errant pebble]

I'm on PC playing Europe servers

[heady sable]

You guys think the PAX Armada could be a precursor to the MEC faction we fight in Bad Company?

[wind quarry]

Which battlefield yall think has the best campaign

[errant pebble]

Bad company

[wise locust]

what's good people

[shadow dome]

The moral opposite of bad people

Ba dum tssk

crickets

[arctic heron]

any news on when the next playtest will be for "BF6"?

[lusty vessel]

i just saw someone cheating in BFV

they were rapid firing a panzerbusche

they went 2-4 before they got caught lmao

why is it that cheaters get very obvious cheats but STILL suck at the game?

[teal fractal]

They get cheats because they are bad

and dont understand the game

If you play well then you must be cheating in their mind

[lusty vessel]

but i mean you're already cheating

the sky's the limit

and it was on a community server

[teal fractal]

🤷‍♂️

[lusty vessel]

i'm not saying cheating is good

but if you're going to cheat, why limit yourself

as if cheating a little is better than cheating a lot

[sharp barn]

I mean the pzb thing is just a game exploit not actual hacks

So it’s not like shooting it semi auto will fix their shit aim

[lusty vessel]

what? how does it work?

[sharp barn]

I’m not sure tbh but I know it’s a thing

[lusty vessel]

well

too late now

[worthy sapphire]

maybe in a couple of weeks

maybe in the weekend after this one

[lusty vessel]

i doubt they'll be that frequent. my guess is once a month

idk how long it takes to integrate all that feedback

maybe as time goes on it'll become more frequent

[worthy sapphire]

yeah im thinking they wont 100% implement it

and just test different stuff before

[lusty vessel]

Wonder when the Beta will be

[nova urchin]

A few weeks before the game releases most likely. 2026 for sure.

[finite mauve]

Month or 2

Usually when a beta us out the game releases in like 1 or 2 months

Or so

[lusty vessel]

I wonder if they're thinking about Fall 2025

I know GTA VI is slated for that time frame but GTA and Battlefield are totally different

[marsh fable]

I hope it relases in just a good solid state so sick of games coming out broken this day and age

[finite mauve]

By the leaks the game looks amazing

[marsh fable]

I know right ive heard like rubble and building parts fall off to damage vehicles and stuff so destruction phyisics back to awesome

[finite mauve]

Have you seen the leaks?

[gleaming steppe]

It's been done before, just a matter of implementation

[marsh fable]

ive only seen the images and the officeal sneak peak but not the leaks although did watch a video of someone discussing what they saw

[finite mauve]

Dms

[thorn sequoia]

ive seen alot of the leaks but unfortunately cant discuss

[crisp wagon]

Any chance for getting the commander role back into this battlefield?

[lusty vessel]

yea it sucks. i need a place to discuss the leaks but i don't have anywhere to talk about it lol

[lusty vessel]

doubtful

[crisp wagon]

Seriously?? It was such an underrated role, I feel like there could be some really good replayabilitie and game diversity that can come from it.

[lusty vessel]

it has potential

[thorn sequoia]

This needs to happen

[crisp wagon]

It really does, and I've got a few ideas on how to improve it, making it a real support role

[crisp wagon]

I know right, there's been so much I've thought of to make it better

[thorn sequoia]

ppl will complain its too MILSIM to have it back in the game. The newer Generation wants COD out of Battlefield just run and gun twitch shooter stuff. if you wants tactical and slower paced strategic moments - you will get shut down

commander roles and comms should happen with comms being able to talk with all squads leads . chain of command type stuff

[crisp wagon]

If battlefield is trying to go for a bit of realism, then a commander would be the way. It did wonders in BF and hardline, and every ground major ground offensive has a TOC to give support where needed

BF4*

[thorn sequoia]

im with you 100 percent on it and want it

COD is a arcade shooter. battlefield is a sandbox shooter there is a difference

[crisp wagon]

Some of my ideas where, being able to respawn vehicles quicker or possibly instantly, or be able to call in a naval/artillery strike

[heady sable]

You have a variety of weapons/vehicles/gear to play with as a sandbox. Just like Halo.

[crisp wagon]

Dropping tanks, or other vehicles where needed, or calling in air strikes

[thorn sequoia]

"Battlefield" is generally considered not to be an arcade shooter; instead, it's categorized as a military first-person shooter with a focus on large-scale, team-based combat, emphasizing tactics and combined arms warfare, which sets it apart from the faster-paced, more casual gameplay of arcade shooters

ive been playing since 03 bro but ok haha

[void rock]

Battlefield is 1000% an arcade shooter

[heady sable]

Just as grok, or Googles AI overview.

[crisp wagon]

Look regardless of what it is I just think that the commander role should be brought back into the game, and expanded on.

[void rock]

relatively quick TTK, fast paced movement, simple but somewhat dynamic gunplay and generally unpunishing gameplay loop

theres also so many features that make combat accessible

you can play the game with a COD mentality and have no trouble

[lusty vessel]

there are so many CoD players in 2042 it's fucking rancid

[heady sable]

The fast paced movement is a post 2016 thing.

[void rock]

its literally not

[crisp wagon]

I feel like the BF series had a pretty big focus on realism and team play. For the most part.

[void rock]

BF4 was fast af

[heady sable]

No it's weighty

You're absolutely, atrociously wrong. I've played it.

[void rock]

You had insane air accelaration in 4, fast af sprint, really good jump velocity

[crisp wagon]

It definitely can, go back to BF 4, the commander can provide a wide range of support and team play potential

[void rock]

BF has had COD adjacent movement for years

lmao

[heady sable]

Wow, you fall fast.
And no sprint wasn't fast in 4

[digital orbit]

True but they shifted to players relying on each other or calling in their own support directly, cutting out the commander.

[void rock]

Its fast as the average COD title, maybe not like BO6/CW fast

also unlike COD, you had way better air accelaration

and control

ZouZous were possible because of this

[thorn sequoia]

so how can u say it add no real value if you have never used it

[crisp wagon]

I kinda feel like we should go back to the team somewhat relying on the commander for bigger support calls, like how it was in BF 4 or hardline

[lusty vessel]

Battlefield needs to stop copying CoD and does its own thing

[thorn sequoia]

are you kidding did you even play bf2

[void rock]

I only used commander to drop care packages on teammates

[heady sable]

I played commander, what ruined it imo was the players that wouldn't listen, even when you give them incentives.

[lusty vessel]

what

[digital orbit]

I know, but BF audience is aimed at casuals as well 'us', who have to be forced to rely on particular features to use them. It wouldn't be expected for them to attempt to communicate and coordinate with someone, that's asking too much.

[lusty vessel]

it's because the players don't want to be nagged by a commander

[crisp wagon]

It was quite useful, and could tip the battle. The commander could call for recon UAVs, EMP UAVs, supply drops, vehicle drops, cruise missiles, AC 130s and even give infantry field upgrades.

[void rock]

The biggest thing battlefield struggles with is incentivizing people to play the objective

more noticeable in non cq modes

[lusty vessel]

neither do you. you pulled that metric out of nowhere

[void rock]

breakthrough and rush are unplayable 50% of the time because everyone camps and only pushes on like 25 tix left

[thorn sequoia]

some ppl on youtube are stating dragging bodies adds no real value . so immersion adds no real value haha .

[lusty vessel]

what does that have to do with anything

[digital orbit]

Because they target casuals mixed with tactical gamers who need little incentive other than the fact its an obj.

[crisp wagon]

And it was quite helpful to them I'm sure

[void rock]

I meant on top of teammates

[heady sable]

There's nowhere online where it says battlefield is an arcade shooter so until you give your source, you're wrong.

[crisp wagon]

Yeah I tried recently and I've had a few good ones but a lot of the time people just don't care

[lusty vessel]

yea?

[worthy sapphire]

not in a million years

[void rock]

You dont need a source for claiming Battlefield is an arcade shooter

[worthy sapphire]

2026 100%

[wild mantle]

Maybe BF6 will be fun guys. It is the main thing.

[void rock]

It's like one of the easiest games to hop on and play

for any casual audience

theres so many streamlined mechanics that differ it from a milsim

[crisp wagon]

Just bring back the dialogue, wheel and request it that's a way to mitigate the issue

[lusty vessel]

video games are so complex now that i think the only way "arcade" can apply to a game is if it's literally an arcade game

[crisp wagon]

Let's be honest someone is gonna nag at someone

[digital orbit]

Yeah it is an arcade shooter with light tactical elements

[crisp wagon]

That's unfortunate

[lusty vessel]

yea but you can turn off chat and mute people

[heady sable]

I could ask you the same.

[worthy sapphire]

lmao

[void rock]

3D spotting, virtually no recoil, lineant movement speed and gunplay, fast respawn, health regen, barely any attrition mechanics (except BFV)

and i could list more

its one of the easiest shooters to play

[digital orbit]

tanks that lob shells about 600m lmao

[void rock]

WITH INFINITE AMMO BTW

[thorn sequoia]

These guys want to just run around and have a twitch shooter with no comms no communication. They just want to be a universal soldier with perks -the types that Dont play to objective and to base things off kill count. They will do anything to destroy the core features battlefield use to have that were good and taken out of the game for feature that call of duty kinda gross ! battlefield was not an arcade shooter and definitely was NOT a Milsim shooter. it sat in between till it leaned towards being an arcade shooter trying to pull in COD numbers which they couldnt do and never will

[crisp wagon]

I mean the worst you'll get is the commander telling your squat to go to an objective and try to help you every now and then

[void rock]

Thats not what I want

or what anyone here wants

[thorn sequoia]

hell let loose is not even milsim its arcade milsim

arma is milsim which i dont want battlefield to be

[void rock]

I think Battlefield should stay an arcade title and not adopt redundant milsim mechanics that have never been in the franchise.
Just because I say that though doesnt mean I want it to completely negate any tactical element that makes battlefield unique, in fact I think Battlefield could lean into squad/teamplay even more than it has (BFV had a really good foundation for this)

[digital orbit]

I don't think so.

[crisp wagon]

Let's be honest though how often do you see a role like the commander role in games, being able to provide support where needed, and possibly tipping the fight in your teams favor

[void rock]

I mean when 70% of the playerbase praises maps like Metro...

[worthy sapphire]

what

[heady sable]

I've played multiple battlefields over the years, if you're talking about 2042, I've got thousands of kills, 1, thousands again, 3, 4, thousands, I've played enough to know what I'm talking about.
You sound extremely ignorant.
Cod is its biggest competitor but it doesn't mean they chase the same gameplay, you're full of hot air.

[crisp wagon]

BF has been really no where near COD, but I do think bring back the commander would be a breath of fresh air

[heady sable]

Just because YOU SAY it doesn't make it true.

[void rock]

Battlefield is usually treated like a COD title with bigger maps for most of the fanbase
the meta for the past decade has literally been

Choose Assault or Support class
Bunker on random objective
Kill a lot
Revive teammates
Force swap to Engineer if vehicles get too annoying

[thorn sequoia]

enders is trash

[void rock]

or be a useless recon

BUT THIS CAN CHANGE!

[thorn sequoia]

you sound like you have no soul haha

[heady sable]

Let me guess, y'all haven't even unlocked every weapon attachment or vehicle augmentation either?

[void rock]

Enders is usually ostracized by the community because of his personality, but almost none of his takes are actually that nonsensical. Infact, his opinions are pretty adjacent with most of DICE's gameplay direction.

[thorn sequoia]

end of discussion

[crisp wagon]

Recon was really good if you used the class correctly, I always got an PDW and placed a spawn beacon at the best position for hard pushes

[void rock]

yeah unfortunately most recons dont do that

Recon is honestly the class that needs to most retouching

[heady sable]

No it's not, you just don't realize how the argument was settled in front of you.

[thorn sequoia]

hey just cuz i said it doesnt mean its true

its an opinion

[void rock]

its so polarizing how he could either be super valuable or the most shit teammates at the same time

[crisp wagon]

I loved doing that I got lots of killes and objective caps. Plus is wasn't all that good a sniping

[heady sable]

It's called the fifth but that's not the point.

Nice, target me because I have a Halo helmet.

[void rock]

and its a damn good console pleb game

[thorn sequoia]

nothing wrong with console gamers but ok

[void rock]

TF2 > Quake

thats rage bait

[heady sable]

He's just mad his arguments fall flat

[void rock]

its arena adjacent 🙂

[thorn sequoia]

tf2 is not an arena shooter but its based off tournament style ?

[void rock]

also that was bait

[crisp wagon]

I still think commander had a good spot in battlefield, and should make a come back.

[void rock]

it should

and put it on ipad again

DESTROYED

[crisp wagon]

I don't know about that one but maybe

[thorn sequoia]

thats like saying lets not support flight sticks for jet pilots because it adds no value

[heady sable]

No that was true, it was on iPad.

[crisp wagon]

I've met plenty that does, I've used it a lot and have saved games because of it

[void rock]

bro commander on locker was so clutch

[crisp wagon]

I know I'm just saying don't bring it back to IPad, because no one really used the app

You're just a real ray of sunshine aren't ya?

[void rock]

nah let me save the team on the toilet

like suppression?

[heady sable]

Stop trying to make Battlefield COD.

[crisp wagon]

Ok you know what that would be funny to type in the chat

[thorn sequoia]

commander was cool because when i wasnt at my pc i would use it on my phone and it worked for game session on work lunch breaks and actually won a few matches because we had a commander

[heady sable]

Suppression was a good feature.

[void rock]

lol no

rewarding players for missing is never a good mechanic

[crisp wagon]

It definitely added value, just because you never seen it doesn't mean it wasn't usefull

[heady sable]

Try not being shot at instead of running in with your balls to the wall.

[gilded halo]

Guys

[void rock]

This man is playing Squad

LMAO

[gilded halo]

Battle of

Field

[crisp wagon]

In a way it was

[gilded halo]

Yea suppression is a good thing

[thorn sequoia]

alot complained on suppression. i liked it but it was also annoying.

[gilded halo]

Forces enemy players to atleast get the fuck away

[heady sable]

No I literally haven't even played squad, nor did I like 42, I liked 3 and 4, which had suppression and weight.

[void rock]

No actual player even used the mechanic intentionally, except for like 4 supports spamming a hallway making people's screens a blurry mess and terrible weapon spread

yeah no thanks

[crisp wagon]

Try it out

[heady sable]

This is why you sound ignorant.

[void rock]

weight as in, a weight system?

[gilded halo]

Still though regardless of its inclusion it still kept you from pushing that hallway, so suppressing your enemy does work, and should be rewarded

[heady sable]

No as in when you ran it didn't feel like 42.

Yes I have, are you dense?

[thorn sequoia]

bf3 and 4 did have weight to the weapons and the sway and feeling. suppression was great for snipers

[crisp wagon]

I feel like no one even knew about the mechanic

[void rock]

It made gunfights inconsistent more so than discouraging people to push

[void rock]

This is what i mean, it wasnt even a conscious mechanic for most players

[heady sable]

This makes me worried for the next title

[void rock]

players just accepted their bullets not leading anywhere

[thorn sequoia]

they want to run around and no scope hahaa

[gilded halo]

Guns aren’t lasers, they can’t just be consistent, just have good recoil control and simply get better at the game

[void rock]

thats why we have spread

[crisp wagon]

Well you also got to think a lot of people that usually play battlefield don't even suppression even means

[void rock]

and I advocate for higher recoil in Battlefield

[gilded halo]

Nah not really

[waxen loom]

only want find a way to enemies back and kill them all with dynamite

[crisp wagon]

It kinda did

[thorn sequoia]

battlefields suppression was nothing like squads

[void rock]

If guns had actual recoil along with spread, you wouldnt need suppression to make everyone stop laser beaming

[crisp wagon]

It wasn't much be there was some reward to it

[void rock]

thats why suppression is a bandaid fix

its a mechanic that creates tediousness instead of a solid gunplay system

[gilded halo]

You guys say it adds nothing then say how it causes you to not push a certain direction, that’s the point, your being suppressed causes theirs a haul of bullets coming your way, just simply rotate or lob a grenade or something

[crisp wagon]

Or get a tank

If you can

[heady sable]

Suppressing fire quite literally STOPS THE ENEMMY FROM DOING WHATEVER THEY WERE DOING.

[gilded halo]

One of the few mechanics that actually immerses you cause your screen going blurry reflects how an actual person would experience a hail of bullets going their way

[void rock]

yeah I know but that doesnt mean the recoil wasnt non-existent. I just like gunplay that gives guns a skillgap

also suppression was in BF4

[thorn sequoia]

it can pin a sniper down cuz he has to go prone and wait for the fx to clear up

or pin a squad down

[void rock]

yes

[crisp wagon]

But it makes sense though, if you was getting shot at like that would you want to put your head up?

[gilded halo]

Blud I think you just get nervous cause you didn’t have the jump on the player lmao, jokes aside simply get good, it’s a good mechanic

[heady sable]

And this too, I've machine gun sniper nests for this very reason.

[void rock]

but I prefer guns to have a bit more recoil so it makes close range engagements also more skill based

thats just my preference though

[gilded halo]

You simply are just crying that people shoot at you in a shooting game

[crisp wagon]

I've used the mechanic, to make solid pushes on players that wouldn't move.

Or to at least delay them and hold them back so we can capture an objective

[thorn sequoia]

like i said i liked it but i think it could be more controlled suppression . like laying down LMG fire at a squad from a distance would cause the suppression effect. but up close this would not take place

[crisp wagon]

No doubt about it, but it depends on the situation

[sweet stone]

Guys stop. „HadBallsToSayIt“ is ragebating 24/7 on this discord.

Just leave him be

[heady sable]

Copy

[crisp wagon]

I just wanted to talk about the commander role, and how it should be brought back

Like I said, battlefield tries for realism.If you is getting shot at by a hala bullets, would you wanna poke your head out there and try to shoot back

[gilded halo]

Yea but I’m punishing you because you desided to not take your shot so imma send lead your way at 1,150 rpm and make you seethe cause you can’t do anything about

[void rock]

Suppression works more effectively in a milsim title because people are more intentional with their combat engagements
Suppression doesnt work in battlefield because there's already a spread mechanic that discentivizes people from mindlessly spraying their weapons
and its a mechanic 90% of players arent really conscious of.
So in battlefield's context, suppression just rewards missing players

[crisp wagon]

There's definitely some realism in battlefield, and how suppression works in battlefield is definitely pretty realistic

[void rock]

It would make more sense to either nail the spread mechanic or increase recoil than add another layer of spread to a game with spread already

it makes no sense

[crisp wagon]

If i've got a bunch of bullets whizing over my head and I try to shoot back.I'm not exactly gonna be as accurate.When i'm shooting back at them

[gilded halo]

So, you get shot at a bunch, your character reacts similar to an actually person by getting tunnel vision and not being able to acurrately shoot back when bullets are flying directly at him? Are you dumb?

[heady sable]

I wish I could post screenshots and videos to show you guys how wrong you are about suppression, it doesn't 'reward you for missing players' it quite literally helps your squad and team which itself gives you assist points.

[crisp wagon]

Whatever you say bud it just sounds like you have bad positioning

That is true for the most part, but no sane soldier is gonna put his head up when he's got hails of bullets flying over his head

[thorn sequoia]

NPC

[crisp wagon]

A video game that tries for some realism

[gilded halo]

Literally, pinning enemy players down with bullets going their way stops them from pushing and go behind cover, allowing your squad more time to do whatever else they need to

[crisp wagon]

Even trained soldiers have a tendency to freak out

[void rock]

Okay so, bullets shot past you make your gun more inaccurate. Does that stop people from pushing? No, it just confuses players 50% of the time for why their shots are inconsistent

[crisp wagon]

Look, but you're entitled to your own opinion from the sounds of it. Youre just are really bad at positioning

[thorn sequoia]

straight BOT

[sweet stone]

I don’t see their messages - but ask them about hardcore servers

[void rock]

If you want gunplay to be more intense and skill based, just increase the recoil

[gilded halo]

That balanced between arcadyness and milsim, lob a grenade and forget hoe, your just mad support fucks you up when you camp in the back of the map

[void rock]

recoil is a more consistent and conciously implied mechanic

[crisp wagon]

It's not an arcade shooter

[void rock]

Battlefield has like 0 milsim mechanics

lmao

[thorn sequoia]

i would say supression is there to help those in large scale battles determine situational awareness when alot is going on screen without having directional indicators on where the fire is coming from.

[crisp wagon]

You're entitled to your own opinion bud

[void rock]

thats visually but its also a gunplay affected mechanic

visual suppression is fine as long as its not BF3 level

[crisp wagon]

Does it say battlefield is an arcade shooter? Because I don't see it anywhere

[gilded halo]

So? Get behind cover

[crisp wagon]

Look at the end of the day.I just wanted to talk about the commander role

[dusk bane]

Is suppression in battlefield really the argument rn

[void rock]

YOU CAN STILL GET SUPPRESSION BEHIND COVER

[heady sable]

Gotta love zoomers trying to gaslight you into believing your favorite FPS wasn't ever like you remembered it.

[thorn sequoia]

when you start adding in UI elements for hit marks and where things are coming from that when it starts to become arcade like

[crisp wagon]

Apparently so

So then what you said before is an opinion, then

[gilded halo]

You can’t just laser someone because they shot at you, also just rotate

You guys are upset cause you can’t outplay a support lmao

[crisp wagon]

I usually just pop a frag in their general direction

[void rock]

A support already has the advantage by headglitching?

So why make that more complex with more spread?

why not just increase the recoil?

[gilded halo]

Holy fucking shit you suck at the game

[void rock]

????????

[crisp wagon]

Explosives are pretty useful to move somebody out from an area

[gilded halo]

“Head glitching” you mean peaking???!

[crisp wagon]

And not a lot of people utilize the destruction mechanics to rotate

[void rock]

A good support player will always prone or headglitch

[gilded halo]

THEY ARE TO FAR AWAY??? HAHAHHAHAHA

[void rock]

otherwise they literally die instantly

[heady sable]

So going prone is head glitching now?

[crisp wagon]

Maybe sometimes, but that's not always the case

[void rock]

please read

[heady sable]

I did