battlefield-legacy-titles

[gentle plover]

Then if the team pushes up then I not only have a good angle to help them advance, but I may even work towards the next cap prematurely.

[earnest storm]

on a scale of 1-10

[full hinge]

bad if they listen to community

[teal fractal]

yes

[earnest storm]

what is the community saying?

[teal fractal]

either that or youre cutting the counter attack off early and throw enemies at a dissarray

[full hinge]

someweird thoughs being shared over here

[gentle plover]

Too early to say, it visually looks good but I don't know anything about the game mechanics. Hopeful but still cautious.

[teal fractal]

which also helps with capturing future objectives

[teal fractal]

the game mechanics havent been tested yet

[full hinge]

no just put turret and wait till tou capture obj

yall are wrong

[teal fractal]

i hope its 42 movement

prone around in some random corner and pray youll capture the objective

[gentle plover]

I'd be content with 42 movement.

[teal fractal]

skilled gameplay

[earnest storm]

I'm more of a bf4 ovement kind of person

movement

[teal fractal]

rouzou vouzou mouzou type?

[teal fractal]

youre a bf5 player?

[gentle plover]

BF2042 sans the specialists, wallhack abilities/utility, improved bursting with spread reset, with a better overall aesthetic that fits the narrative.

[earnest storm]

yep. specialists really ruined it for me.. i did play 2042 a bit yesterday and had fun though

[gentle plover]

Nah I actually didn't care for BFV all that much. I was an Apex player before I came back to BF with mid BF2042.

[teal fractal]

fair

i want to know what good kpm is in 5 ive heard so many mixed things

[earnest storm]

bad company 2 was my first bf so i guess im not really an OG vet like others

[summer forge]

The problem is I notice all too often that aside from 2 flags the team never captures other flags. So even if I clear it they won’t take it. So what I just keep going and let the enemy take it back?!

[teal fractal]

and i dont really want to take stackers words for it they are kinda boosted for that alone

ive seen stackers get 6kpm games but idk they perma play in squad zerging everyone

[gentle plover]

That happens, but you can't influence your teammates, they're an uncontrollable variable so you just work on what you can do instead of altering your play to make up for your teammates.

[summer forge]

So I need to give up on winning games and just go for kpm

[teal fractal]

yes

[teal fractal]

no

[summer forge]

That sounds so infuriating to me

[teal fractal]

kpm/kd is only a aftermath of good gameplay

[gentle plover]

I imagine as solo if you're still in that 3KPM range it should apply to BFV, though that game's maps do have more chokes so perhaps slightly higher is likely.

[summer forge]

He literally just said don’t focus on caps

[earnest storm]

I wish bf made a merit based ranking system

[teal fractal]

idk it varies so much in 5 for me

some games i get 4

then get giga stacked and cancered

sub 2

or play that one tactical map where tanks sit on the other side of the map farming kills

with 30 scouts

and no on going gameplay

[gentle plover]

Stacking always brings it down, just the nature of getting team shot by a group holding hands like it's Feb 14th

[teal fractal]

i forgot the name

[teal fractal]

it doesnt happen in 1 for me

but idk

maybe 5s maps are just harder to play against stacks

not sure

[gentle plover]

No, I just said don't waste your time standing on a cap especially solo. You pave the way to make the cap easier on your team. Solo capping just means I'm now in a predictable location and I'm dealing with respawning enemies who can approach me from several angles. If I push up I can maintain a choke or cut off one lane entirely instead and make better use of that time.

[mellow axle]

I just want a Semi Realistic Battlefield with Good Graphics and badass vehicles

[teal fractal]

yeah odds are you wont cap it and if you do then not for long

the chances of you capturing that are really low

you can get more tickets from kills and save tickets from revives from meanwhile

if cq

or just win more fights for your team

theres just better options to play with

well

ive seen perma back cap ratting work actually

but the squad players were also just good at the game

so they countered the waves off til they got obj

[gentle plover]

I've done my fair share of spawn trapping on Redacted even if we still only had 3/4 caps. It's amazing how many people will still try and go from uncap instead of the one they hold to push out from.

[teal fractal]

spawn trapping is heavy cancer

i always feel bad when it happens

i jsut afk til enemies play out of it

or switch teams if older bf title

[gentle plover]

I don't like a steamroll either, but I might as well farm because god knows I've had my share of getting spawn trapped by a group of five spamming smoke and C5.

[teal fractal]

ye i only do it against groups too

i used to moderate a bf1 server once, game grief, spawn trapping etc etc isnt allowed

but this one group from another clan kept coming in

perma cancering the server

so i went on their server and just did the same thing but with the most broken weapons in the game and tryharded the hardest i could on them

i killed the server in like 1 game

and i got banned

best feeling

never saw them in my servers after

[summer forge]

That’s literally saying don’t focus/waist time on the cap. Clear the cap and move on, don’t take it.

[gentle plover]

The clans that do that shit are the ones that always hate getting it, weird

[teal fractal]

leave others to take it

you dont need to have 30 people on a single objective

3-4 is enough to cap

attacking requires momentum

[gentle plover]

Exactly, solo capping a point because your team won't push is not a winning strategy because even if you cap it, you won't hold it for long. In all likelihood you're going to get overwhelmed at the point when they respawn.

[teal fractal]

as soon as its emptied and surrounding is clear move on

the quicker you are on the momentum from flag to flag the less your enemies has time to prepare

[summer forge]

So cqc really is just big TDM

It was never about caps

[teal fractal]

no one said this

we are just saying its not the best way to utalize your lifespan

[gentle plover]

It's about taking space, and kills allow the momentum to take that space. Less people on a point is easier to attack.

[teal fractal]

leave 2 people on objective to finish the cap you dont need many people to do it if its clear zone

[summer forge]

Dude if I want to get better then I gotta know what to focus on. Clearly my caps focus is wrong, so I gotta shift to kill focus

Which turns cqc into a tdm

[teal fractal]

it isnt just "focus on kills"

its about playing your flags smarter

kills are only a result of smart plays

[summer forge]

Yea, playing them smarter by your definition is less time on flag and more time killing enemy

[teal fractal]

its more time of doing everything else but staying on an empty objective thats already being captured by your other teammates

[granite wyvern]

You miss the point of that. If my team has lost all the flags on Al Marj and struggling to hold spawn flag, if I take jeep to their spawn flag and cap it, guess what - less enemy are pushing our spawn flag for a while and our team can gain some momentum / movement forward.

[teal fractal]

you could give ammo and revive/heal others its still more useful than sitting on an objective thats already being captured

[teal fractal]

this is after the fight over the objective is won scenario

[gentle plover]

When a match starts say there's two close flags you'll capture, D and C, at the start of the match do you stop to take D? No. Your team will do that, so you move forward towards C even before D is capped so you can cut off enemies from attacking C, and by then your team will advance from D and help you with C.

[summer forge]

Ok fine… shift focus from winning the game to having best performance

[teal fractal]

if youre defending then defend

[full hinge]

it is tdm in fact

just with more players

[teal fractal]

basically yes technically no

but same shit different toilet

[summer forge]

They help?

[full hinge]

also have to stand somewhere for 15 secs

to cap it

hen just tdm

again

[summer forge]

wtf I just said that 🤦‍♂️

[ivory stratus]

Someone up to battlefield 5 PlayStation?

[summer forge]

I’m done

[tight rain]

Hi done

[teal fractal]

no

you said "Yea, playing them smarter by your definition is less time on flag and more time killing enemy"

[gentle plover]

That's a desperation move when you're on the back foot, and yes that is the play when you have no options left but it isn't a general way to play.

[teal fractal]

but you can do many other things than just kill

you dont have to kill at all to be valuable

[summer forge]

?

[teal fractal]

you can just perma revive your entire team

til you win

[summer forge]

I said this? Yea?

[teal fractal]

yes

[teal fractal]

yes but not directly

[teal fractal]

.

[gentle plover]

Or you can stop enemies from advancing from one lane. Even if you aren't killing a lot if you're being a pain and stopping progress and restricting their ability to reinforce a cap then that's equally good.

[teal fractal]

yes

its very situational

i suggest just watching how good players play and look at the decisions they make

[summer forge]

So I need to stop running with my squad for this

[teal fractal]

how they rotate flags

[gentle plover]

Any extreme focus you force the enemy team to allocate towards you is pressure taken off your team.

[teal fractal]

when they defend

when they attack

how they do it

[teal fractal]

its situational

generally i switch between doing everything

it depends what my team needs

[summer forge]

I’m too squad based for all this

Guess I’ll just have to be ok being weak

[teal fractal]

sometimes i hold chokes, then zerg, then step back a bit defend, then find opportunities to commit to flanks

youre just dancing around between a lot of things

[summer forge]

I’m the anti tank in my squad on V

[teal fractal]

meta playstyle is passive-aggressive playstyle meaning you play passive if needed aggressive when you can be

[teal fractal]

anti tanks shouldnt perma focus the tank, if the tank player is bad then just ignore them entirely

its more of an if you have the opportunity to do something

[summer forge]

Nah I usually focus on the tanks camping a flag

[teal fractal]

i usually just ignore tankers they cant hurt me if i dont play into them

[summer forge]

I can’t fathom just floating along the map doing whatever suits

[teal fractal]

thats how the game is played

[summer forge]

Outside of squad I agree

[teal fractal]

you do what you need to within that moment within different situations

it constantly changes

[granite wyvern]

Sorry, came in on big conversation already in progress. That said, this happens quite a lot as Al Marj is one of the ‘sweat’ servers so get one sided games more often than you should.

[summer forge]

In our squad we have a guy who is trash for kd but a fantastic support and medic. I’m usually assault clearing or anti tank. Another will be recon

[teal fractal]

thats just bf5s nature ingeneral imo, either youre steam rolling or youre getting steam rolled more often or not

atleast on pc idk about console

[granite wyvern]

I know some great medics who can’t kill anyone

[teal fractal]

i just leave servers if that happens

[teal fractal]

ye you dont have to get a lot of kills to contribute into being useful

its just more optimal if you do get kills aswell

some medics will see that someone died within 0.1ms then run straight at you just to die with you

like that kind of gameplay is pretty meaningless

[summer forge]

Seems like most to me

[teal fractal]

i always take a 3-4 seconds if the area where the person died was just pretty hot

within that time i just listen and pay attention to visual cues

and hold/check angles

[summer forge]

None of that surprises me with you

[granite wyvern]

Yeah I always clear the area b4 reviving

I’m not an out and out medic (and play a lot of Assault & Support) but have almost 62.5K revives on BFV

[teal fractal]

it also depends though

the sooner you can revive the better

[teal fractal]

if its really hot i suggest doing this

[granite wyvern]

BTW, for any Xbox BF players who have Facebook - this group is really active:-

https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1UoYkYX4Fr/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[copper haven]

[bold oracle]

I liked those dangerous revives on BF1. Tank kills an assault teammate as he tries to take out said tank. Pop smoke run in slide hit'em with the needle take off. All the while the tank sitting a couple meters away not paying attention. Assault team gets up finished tank off, stuff was fun

[teal fractal]

it wont work against good tankers so it generally not a good risk to take

but if it worked and youre confident in it then its good

[bold oracle]

Ya it was only good for BF1 in 5 the revive animation took too long so those higher risk revives usually ended in being dead.

[teal fractal]

its situational

for example if i see a smoke pop up somewhere where i just killed someone first thing ill do is shoot into it lol

or just ingeneral even

either players are behind it or in it

its just very predictable

but if the tanker is just very dummy dum you can do it yeah

[digital minnow]

Yo guys, I'm a No-Pat.

[carmine grail]

It's ok

We all make mistakes sometimes

[digital minnow]

Wym?

[terse moat]

Hi ! Did we got BF6 requirements yet ? I found this from Labs, is that it ?
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700 / AMD Ryzen 7 3700X / minimum : Intel Core i5-8400 / AMD Ryzen 5 2600
GPU: Nvidia RTX 3060Ti / AMD Radeon RX 6700-XT / minimum : Nvidia RTX 2060 / AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB

[summer forge]

I’ll just be waiting till it hits console

And y’all select few in here can screw off with PC is better. Personal preference.

[teal fractal]

performance wise it is yes

but yes personal preference

idc what you play on

lol

[teal fractal]

very confusing ngl

[digital minnow]

If an RTX 2060 is really the minimum requirement, the game’s either gonna look amazing or be super unoptimized.

[teal fractal]

more likely going to be well optimized

[digital minnow]

Yeah, so I don't see a higher-end or newer GTX card struggling to run the game.

[terse moat]

In fact I'm planning to upgrade my 10yo PC ^^
I currently have a Asus Maximus VII Ranger mobo, an Intel i7-4790k 4ghz, 16go RAM DDR and a GTX 1070 8gb VRAM

[digital minnow]

Probably gonna run way better than BO6 on PS4 too.

[teal fractal]

why did they put bo6 on a ps4

wtf

💀

[tight rain]

Pooor

[digital minnow]

Yeah, that CPU needs to hit the retirement home, lol.

[teal fractal]

nice cash grabbers

[tight rain]

They are really making the most of the PS4 playerbase lol

[teal fractal]

"it wont run but people will buy it idc"

[digital minnow]

More sales?

[tight rain]

It looked rough from what little I seen

[teal fractal]

still obviously stupid

[digital minnow]

Nah nah, it runs but probably at a cinematic 25 FPS.

[teal fractal]

ps5 came out 5 years ago and they decide to put the game on a console from 2013

12 year old console

💀

[summer forge]

Not poor, “personal preference “ did you miss that part?

[teal fractal]

very playable on a fast pace game

[teal fractal]

its a joke

[tight rain]

Oh I was just reading between the lines

[summer forge]

Where’s that joke again? lol

[teal fractal]

in the stereotype of the pc players that say that

not everythings that deep

[summer forge]

Dude fair 🤣

[summer forge]

(Insert mom joke)

I’ll leave now

[tight rain]

I also just like calling people poor for any reason

[summer forge]

Trust fund in the house

[sterile jolt]

I wouldn't trust it, 2042 has 2700X as the recommended CPU yet game runs like 💩

[summer forge]

@teal fractal watching some of your videos, definitely seeing your team based thinking but very heavy on the solo

It’s very hard to get my brain out of caps focus but man kudos on the gameplay

[teal fractal]

its because i just dont really have a big point on being at where they are at or there isnt much juice within the positions they are at

either that or theres just bigger plays to be made

i only retreat to my team if its needed

[summer forge]

Well it goes back to you’re not thinking about winning the game, you’re going for best performance. Which when watching those videos makes sense for you

That pre aim thing I’ve only done a few times but it does makes a lot of sense

[teal fractal]

good performance wins games

[teal fractal]

its an actual thing they will teach you in military too

you dont want to give yourself away when you peek

[summer forge]

Well let me kick my own arse hard a few times and I might get back with you on it lol

[teal fractal]

you want to open the angles pretty slow

but quick enough for them to not be able to react

[summer forge]

I will say 2042 gives you nothing of the angles and map utility that you’re showing

[teal fractal]

ye bf42 maps arent very sophisticated

[summer forge]

Yep, there’s a big difference between being clan good and performance good

Clan bs clan I’m very good, but yes if we took you on we’d look like children

[random blade]

You didn’t pre aim before?

[peak walrus]

Peaking is better than pre aim

[random blade]

Peeking involves pre aiming

[summer forge]

No time when pushing caps. Unless approaching form distance in open space

[random blade]

Well, there are different variations of peeking but pre aim and peeking go hand in hand

[peak walrus]

Wait no, I miss read, I thought that said pre firing, lmao

Durrr

[random blade]

[teal fractal]

you can prefire too

also a way to open angles

but its a big giveaway

if you time it right then its fine

[peak walrus]

If you time it when it makes sense, like if you can actually hear someone that might be around the corner

[random blade]

I tend to just facecheck positions as I rotate around corners as opposed to jiggle peeking or wide swinging

[teal fractal]

ye theres a lot of ways you can peek

[peak walrus]

If I'm gonna pre fire though id rather just waste a C5, chuck and run and ruin someone's day

Makes me feel good inside

[teal fractal]

its an optimal way to use your kit

c4/c5/dynamite are generally used to clear blind spots or just a way to take no risk with the corners

[peak walrus]

There's either the chuck-n-run or the smoke, sneak, and sacrifice

[random blade]

had an excellent clip of how I go about it but of course we can't post no more;

[summer forge]

No wonder my performance is poor if this is how y’all think

Part of me wishes I could run with y’all to learn better

[gentle plover]

It's all part of learning, everyone starts somewhere and it's not like you're incompetent by any stretch.

[teal fractal]

we were all garbage at the game at one point too dw

[gentle plover]

Being receptive to learning is more important than knowing everything

[peak walrus]

I don't like to think about what I'm doing, better to just go balls to the walls and pray to God I don't get sniped by someone with a LMG or a Assault with a 4x scope

[marsh lichen]

Because activision is incompetent

[teal fractal]

i didnt play at 4-5kpm til i got like 700 hours

[random blade]

Also playing loads of different games. A lot of concepts carry over, but some force certain things like angle holding and proper peeking to a degree that makes you realise how beneficial it is to apply elsewhere;

[sterile jolt]

4KPM in 2042 is top 1% appearently

[random blade]

like my peeking and space holding game improved drastically after playing doorkickers 2

[teal fractal]

weird

[random blade]

completely different game, more of a puzzle tactical shooter, but still it learns you big time

[teal fractal]

i really feel like 42 peak should be much higher

[sterile jolt]

Only like 1000 people has 4KPM

[teal fractal]

what

how

[sterile jolt]

Look at BF Tracker leaderboards

[marsh lichen]

Do anybody got any suggestions for fps games I can play rn because the gaming scene is actually dry

[teal fractal]

thats globally?

[sterile jolt]

I used all platforms

[teal fractal]

💀

[peak walrus]

My ability to avoid getting hit altogether got better after playing destiny a depressing amount

[sterile jolt]

Battlegoated 2042 of course

[random blade]

that also does make some sense. for me it was titanfall

that made me a movement fanatic

[marsh lichen]

[teal fractal]

i play 1 with this mindset

i see it like chess

[random blade]

yeah I remember the discussion we had about it a few weeks back

[teal fractal]

oh

[peak walrus]

Destiny 2 was more the game than 1 as 2 kept upping the ante to keep up with try hard and sweaty demands, certain difficulties meant you die if you stub your toe

[teal fractal]

well i play 5 and 42 with that mindset too i just add good movement to it too tbf

[kindred sail]

arma reforger with the modern combat mod and squad

[teal fractal]

but its kinda necessary to do well in those games

except for 42

[peak walrus]

Too many scan hit enemies

[teal fractal]

42 you can be pretty grounded

[random blade]

the maps just kill it for me

[teal fractal]

ye

[marsh lichen]

Squad 44 or the other one?

[teal fractal]

42 movement is really good

[random blade]

not interesting to apply those methodologies too

[kindred sail]

normal one

[teal fractal]

ye they take no mastery

[summer forge]

I played a LOT of TitanFall 2 back in its day and got very good

[kindred sail]

@marsh lichen https://store.steampowered.com/app/393380/Squad/

[summer forge]

Apex killed it for me

[random blade]

42 movement is my favourite of the games in terms of potency and balance, while I'd take bf4 air strafe any day I feel 2042's got a good balance

[teal fractal]

same

[random blade]

air strafe just shifts everything in the favour of the one who uses it

[random blade]

in what way

[sterile jolt]

BF1's KPM is lower, less than 100 people has 4 KPM

[teal fractal]

yeah

well

theres a lot of players with bad overalls

but recents are all high

[random blade]

will get back to this later, y'all keep distracting me from my work

[granite wyvern]

On BFV only 2 do

[sterile jolt]

BFV's KPM is lower than 1 too, less than 10 people has 3KPM

[teal fractal]

????

what

are players that bad

[sterile jolt]

Maybe because game is different?

[teal fractal]

whats the highest peak

no you can certainly get much higher than 3

i know because ive seen players get much higher than 3

[sterile jolt]

4.03

Highest in V

[summer forge]

Are you just now listening to what I’ve been saying? lol

[sterile jolt]

KPM =/= KPR

[teal fractal]

what are the recent games though

[teal fractal]

ye obv

kpr doesnt mean much

[sterile jolt]

I dunno I look at global leaderboards

[granite wyvern]

The 100th best person on Xbox (who I know) is only 1.83.

[gentle plover]

I think BF2042 KPM is lower because the range of engagement is much higher, with more verticality and wide open areas.

[west gazelle]

i loved destiny 2 but switched to warzone once i realized that there were games without p2p connections where you didnt lose gunfights because you were shot 3m behind a impenitrable wall

[teal fractal]

theres a lot more console players

[gentle plover]

That too

[tropic folio]

yeah but then you're playing warzone

[peak walrus]

Still amazes me it took them so long to finally change their servers from d1

Still a shitty connection too

[teal fractal]

so imo if youre a pc player then 6kpm is good zone in 42, ive played like 4 rounds in 42 and got 4 without knowing any maps and the gameplay

[west gazelle]

true..... im a masochist at heart i guess

[gentle plover]

But yeah I feel like lots of previous BF games had maps with a lot more choke points. Makes sense if people are being clustered to certain sectors more it's easier to get consecutive kills by proximity.

[sterile jolt]

2042 ackshually has highest KPM among the 3 lol

[teal fractal]

ye

because players are much worse

it only makes sense for peaks to be much higher

[gentle plover]

Well the leaderboards will also have lots of AI farm

[teal fractal]

console players on pc lobbies will boost it a lot its equal to having ai in the game

portal matches might boost too if they count in

[peak walrus]

Still miss playing destiny and designing builds tho, most fun I've ever had with a fps that had metas that could fit any learning curve

[sterile jolt]

6 KPM is like top 1% in 2042 😭

[teal fractal]

ye thought so

like 6-8kpm is probably the zone you want to reach

[sterile jolt]

You realistically can't

[summer forge]

9.3 kpm 2042 on PlayStation

[sterile jolt]

Unless you stat farm

[summer forge]

Not me but that’s the top player

[west gazelle]

same i just wish they would have gone with d3 instead of just deleting all the paid for d2 content and forming d2 into d3

[teal fractal]

you can

if you can get it on bf1 and 5 you can get it on 42 easily

btw i checked the top leaderboard players they all average roughly 6kpm in recent games

[summer forge]

10.3 on Xbox and 20.8 on Origin

[sterile jolt]

Less than 100 people has 6 KPM, it means it's less than 0.01% of the players who can reach to 6KPM

Every BF sells millions

[teal fractal]

in bf5

[teal fractal]

because everyones shit at the game

the skill floor is insanely low

[summer forge]

This is why any time I’m top five I KNOW my team is truly garbage

[sterile jolt]

You aren't even listening, game doesn't just support 10 KPM

[summer forge]

Tell that to Xbox

[teal fractal]

ive seen asian bf1 players reach 10kpm

but idk what those lobbies are like ive heard mixed things

[summer forge]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/leaderboards/stats/xbl/KillsPerMinute?page=1

[sterile jolt]

This isn't CoD, you can't just play in a corridor map and get 10 kills in a minute

[summer forge]

10.3 kpm top player

[limber bough]

The people with high kpm in 2042 are 99.99% of the time heli farmers

[sterile jolt]

Most likely

[limber bough]

The rest are Redacted only players

[teal fractal]

sucks that you cant see recents in bf42

[summer forge]

That could be, I was just showing him it exists

[peak walrus]

This and the delays on certain dlcs broke my heart and my will with Bungie

[teal fractal]

im certain theres a lot of overall players that have 2kpm but can now play at 4-6

its pretty common

[west gazelle]

YES no point in delaying if its still going to drop broken

[peak walrus]

That and they finally got away from Activision but still somehow fumbled the bag so many times

[teal fractal]

what why is shootbf top list in bf5

hes garbage

really weird tbh

well peak kpms are same as i thought

but i expected there to be more good players

[sterile jolt]

Maybe those players are good but given BF maps are huge they don't see 50 enemies per minute

[summer forge]

That expectation will do you no good

[granite wyvern]

From what you say if you played BFV, you would be top 5 KPM. Why don’t you do this to prove your point?

[teal fractal]

it would take time but if i learned the game prolly ye

theres a lot of people that get 4-5 and some get 6 if you go by recent games

[frank olive]

Day 21 of asking for a Battlefield: Tiberium

[tight night]

Lool that guy has a 0.9 human kd

And like 85k bot kills

10kpm my ass

[summer forge]

🤷‍♂️

[tight night]

Anyone can get 10kpm vs bots

[summer forge]

I agree

Just sharing leaderboards 🤷‍♂️

[sharp barn]

10kpm as infantry sounds impossible

Maybe if you played nothing but night bird

[teal fractal]

possible prolly

meyek got 8kpm

[sharp barn]

Does he only play cqb maps

[limber bough]

What's his IGN?

[granite wyvern]

Also when he talks KPM he is not talking overall - but just your best matches

[sharp barn]

Is that even tracked in game?

[limber bough]

Fairly sure it isn't

[sharp barn]

I’ve played with Enders a couple times, I don’t even think he dropped 10 kpm lol

[full hinge]

ive watched some of meyek vids

extremely boring vs bots

meh

why he keeps his profile private

doesnt want us to see his overall kpm?

[full hinge]

na servers

anything is possible in there

[sharp barn]

lol what game is eu competitive in besides cs

[full hinge]

valorant

[sharp barn]

Cs for zoomers

[full hinge]

most popular esports games

not telling its much easier than eu but def easier id say

according to my cod/bf/quake experience

i think its linked with consoles being popular in us

[sharp barn]

Consoles are popular everywhere bruv

[full hinge]

not as popular as in US

[sharp barn]

Well maybe less so in Asia

[full hinge]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/271260/consumer-gamers-region/

it says there are more console users in US than in EU

[sharp barn]

Bro ur link the difference is like 5 million

They’re p much on par

[full hinge]

while US having 2x less people

if we remember that AA in bf is weak

that makes more sense

people are still bad on EU

[sharp barn]

There wasn’t cross play b4 2042 tho

[full hinge]

most of them

[teal fractal]

meyek is a much better player than enders is

[full hinge]

boring but playing smarter

[teal fractal]

enders is insanely overhyped

theres so many better players

[full hinge]

from us gamers id prefer focus

over popular ones

[teal fractal]

idk us doesnt have many good players ingeneral

baranox has cool aiming technique but thats about it

[full hinge]

ye hes the most interesting to watch

out of them all

[tepid nebula]

I have a BF4 server on ps5/europe. its empty. Anyone want to make it a farm server? With pw i can make it private so we can farm for achievments/trophys or whatever you need. Just message me or tag me 🙂

[drowsy copper]

All this talk of kpm and no mention of game type/infantry/heli/tank player. It’s meaningless.

[random blade]

So many are so small on YouTube it’s hard to find

Got my own collection of people to watch but at this point I just sort of learn myself

[teal fractal]

We quite literally mentioned multiple infantry players

[tribal cobalt]

is bf3 still active on pc?

[kindred sail]

yes

probably there is an influx of players since console services got shutdown recently

[grave wedge]

isn't he the guy who unironically thinks suppression should be removed

[teal fractal]

suppression is a bad mechanic

[high cedar]

Playing bf4 on ps and almost everyone has bad aim like me in the lobby

This fov killing me tho

[sharp barn]

I only saw one full server when I played and some half full ones

[civic spear]

Whats up, any infomation about BF Labs?

[granite wyvern]

Don’t be a ridiculous person

[civic spear]

what you mean?

[marsh lichen]

Nah, they left us in the dark after the bf labs reveal trailer

[uneven hollow]

Just have to wait till they send stuff in secret under a nda

[marsh lichen]

You know people are gonna leak it and are not going to give a fuck

[granite wyvern]

On the basis it will be under NDA, only an idiot would update you here

[west mirage]

And "only" BFV got it correct cuz they made it visual only

[teal fractal]

too bad that 5 was ass at everything else 😔 🤞

[west mirage]

Disagree cuz it had the best movement and some QoL stuffs like Ammo and Health station and the ability to grab Health and Ammo from Support/Medic/Assault teammates that was in Hardline in which they didn't even used for BF1

[teal fractal]

ye but lobbies are more often unplayable than playable

[west mirage]

Not really unless you mean cheaters they've already updated it with the their latest anti-cheat

[teal fractal]

5 games in a row and they were all 8 minutes long 😍

[teal fractal]

nah im talking about stackers

[west mirage]

Idk must be Europe and US thing

Cuz I don't deal with stackers

[teal fractal]

its pretty frequent in here

5-10 people in 1 stack all farm random dice lobbies, server dies they go next

or if bad map etc

[west mirage]

The only time I've had to dealt with stackers and full-on competitive players are from BF4's Brazil Server

[teal fractal]

you dont play bf1?

asia was supposed to be really sweaty in bf1 but idk

heard mixed things

[west mirage]

Not that much/rarely, cuz I hated the gunplay and the sweetspot mechanic

[teal fractal]

ye its pretty boring

maps are good atleast

if it werent for maps i wouldnt play it ngl

[west mirage]

"Let's make the spread worse than BF4"

[west mirage]

It is

[teal fractal]

balance and moderation is also good

i wish bf5 had active community servers

well theres loads

but im banned from them

[west mirage]

Not sure about balance with the amount of explosive spam

[teal fractal]

😔 🤞

[teal fractal]

talking about game balance

as in matches

[west mirage]

Oh right then yeah

[teal fractal]

i wish 5 had good match balance

you can go from farming everyone to getting farmed cuz unplayable

only way to fix it is by switchign servers

dumb tbh

[west mirage]

BFV lacks in having a auto balancer and the ability to switch thing which one of the things I dislike in BFV

[teal fractal]

same

id play bf5 otherwise if it were balanced

[west mirage]

It's more of a 60/40 chance or even 70/30 of having a good match

[teal fractal]

rare instance in eu

[west mirage]

Cuz most of the games is either you dominate or get dominated

[teal fractal]

ye

and both ways are boring

42 better

🛏️

[west mirage]

Asian server have certain servers that only accept certain player level which means you won't be fighting lvl 500 players

Or 200

[teal fractal]

here its lvl 0-50s knife battling against 10 lvl 500 zk zergers as they spam ez in chat (500-0 end score)

[west mirage]

That sucks...

[teal fractal]

but idk the community servers hosted here might be balanced i just cant play in them

free stat farm for them

its gotten less worse over the years but still pretty frequent

[vivid loom]

BFV is gold

shitting on it seems to be the common take online but I had insane amounts of fun playing it

plus they actually got customization right by letting everyone look unique while still looking like a soldier

[junior herald]

hey, if I have bf5 standard on ea app can I just buy an ea app/steam key and continue the same progress?

[vivid loom]

well, the legendary characters stood out a bit much

[lean chasm]

Can we all agree that country music is actually horrible

[lean chasm]

Well they arnt ur average soldier they are supposed to stand out

Which kinda breaks that soldier look

[summer forge]

No

[lean chasm]

They would be more better for single player

[lean chasm]

[summer forge]

😂

[tropic folio]

yeah to me it's 100% the best gameplay in the franchise

[lean chasm]

[summer forge]

🤔

[random blade]

questioning face

[lean chasm]

[rugged barn]

it has its issues, but its leagues ahead (more modern) than BF4

Movement wise, gunplay wise, realism and such

But the monetization is one of the worst

[raven gull]

Does anyone still playing bf1?

[junior herald]

If Ive played on origin before can I log into the same acc from steam?

[tropic folio]

yeah should have all your stuff

[junior herald]

Is there any time limited stuff in bf1 that I could potentially lose? Im not a beta/alpha player so only post release stuff

Might start over ngl

Grind everything from the ground up

Wait, dont think I can do that, my ea acc is already linked to steam 😬

Sadge

Any idea when the next sale for them is? Ik that they are pretty cheap on sales and frequently on sale

[random blade]

I'm looking out for the dlcs to go on sale, can send you a message if I happen to see them on discount

[west mirage]

Agree and hot take Gunplay is better than most of the battlefield games even if it had randomized recoil like BF4's gunplay would be perfect it they make "slightly nerf the spread" to make engaging in medium ranges (25-40m) consistent

[junior herald]

Thanks for the offer but I can just wishlist them and Ill get a notification

[junior herald]

Hot take: 2042 gunplay > 4

[west mirage]

Honestly I dislike the concept of spread and only few games got it right and much prefer recoil patterns

[junior herald]

This, fuck spread

[celest pollen]

honestly gunplay is subjective to me, i find bfv's gunplay more satisfying, albeit very unrealistic and "idealistic"

[west mirage]

Too "laser" even the with the rework

[junior herald]

Fine for me

[west mirage]

Even Arma Reforger from what I've seen doesn't have spread

[junior herald]

Spread like project reality/squad is fine as well imo

But thats a different game and it would suck in bf so

[rugged barn]

Spread is a measure of balance, Delta Force lack of spread makes guns lasers, its annoying as hell

[random blade]

cause i use ea desktop I never get notifications, but fair enough

delta force basically has spread in the form of sight shake

serves the same purpose near enough

[west mirage]

I find BFV's gunplay almost perfect, since it the spread is only affected in long ranges but in short to medium range it's much more managing recoil

[random blade]

but can just be negated to irrelevancy

[west mirage]

I agree but it should be only used in long ranges but not in medium ranges

[rugged barn]

You cant change too much the recoil control outside of single shots

[junior herald]

Steam sends a notif on mobile, in email and on pc lol

[west mirage]

Plus in BFV you're bullet goes where you aim unlike in previous BF games...Hell the only weapons that can kill you on long ranges in BFV are typically MMG, LMGs and Semi-Auto rifles and not SMGs and ARs but that's another topic

[celest monolith]

That's one reason Im mad at bfv. I'm cant kill anyone because my bullet goes where I aim

Which is one of the screen corners

[rugged barn]

i mean, that's good and bad at the same time

but im more fond of how BF4's and BF3's does it

[celest monolith]

I've only played 1,5 and it 2042 lately. I haven't played a BF game since 2 and 3 15 years ago briefly. I can kind of hold my own in 1 and 2042 but I get absolutely wrecked on 5

Granted I'm a pc player playing on a console but I think that's how it should be

[junior herald]

Im mad at 2042 bc it skewed my expectations kd wise since its easier than older bf titles

[finite mauve]

Everyone has has the right to have their opinion, doesn't make it right though

[celest monolith]

I just haven't really been liking 5s maps. 1 has been a lot more fun. For me at least. I enjoy 5 though

[celest monolith]

Bruh yes lol. I played 2042 and was like "aw shit I still got it even on console". NOPE

[junior herald]

Im literally hugging a blahaj rn and ur not im just that much better

[finite mauve]

Whats a Blahaj?

[celest monolith]

The worst

It's grandmother in albanian

[junior herald]

Yeah my overall kd on 2042 is like 3 ish while on 5 I can only get 2 ish, sadge

[random blade]

shark plush

[finite mauve]

Oh

💀

[junior herald]

Ikea shark

[celest monolith]

that's leagues better than me. I've just been building shit and throwing ammo everywhere

[junior herald]

Puppy coded shark teehee :33

[finite mauve]

Ikea???

[junior herald]

Yeah

Look it up you definitely know it lol

[finite mauve]

Oh

Why is there first thing a trans shark

Shark but trans flag background

So random💀💀

[celest monolith]

Here we go

[finite mauve]

People just be putting trans colors behind everything now a days

[west mirage]

Don't like how BF4 and BF3 does it but if they nerf the spread slightly but adds it to the recoil pattern then it's perfect
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/q9873d/new_to_bf4_coming_from_bfv_i_assume_this_game_has/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[finite mauve]

Like an M1 Abrams

[junior herald]

Not random, its a trans icon basically lol

[finite mauve]

Oh

But why

Its a shark

💀

[west mirage]

Crap like this is awful since the player is engaging in medium ranges

[junior herald]

Fat history behind it thats not taught in school smh 🙄

[west mirage]

That's like 25-30m

[junior herald]

We should be learning about the history of blahaj instead of taxes

[finite mauve]

What history

[random blade]

some spread is basically mandatory, but i wouldn't be against a heavier emphasis on actual recoil

[finite mauve]

Not like they teach us about how to do taxes in schools or how to be economically smart anyways💀🙏

[junior herald]

Im going to sleep soon, not gonna type it out now, sowwy :<

[celest monolith]

Why does it matter?

[west mirage]

I'm not saying to remove it but rather make the spread affect only on long ranges while engaging in short and medium ranges requires you to learn the recoil like how they did in BFV

Even SMGs are in BFV aren't that accurate compared to ARs

[finite mauve]

BF4 gunplay is perfect. You just don't understand it

You dont full auto someone without letting go of trigger a bit at 60+ meters then ofc you aren't gunna hit as much as you should

[west mirage]

Nah I did microbursting due to the awful spread no thanks

[finite mauve]

You should be tap firing on auto

[west mirage]

I would rather have recoil patterns to control

[celest monolith]

I agree despite getting wrecked by it. Aim should only drop off at range

[junior herald]

Bf4 is just overrated overall ngl

Dunno what ppl see in it

[finite mauve]

Its overrated becuase its objectively the best battlefield

3/4 are

💀

[gentle plover]

Yeah, tap fire just made everything feel fairly samey.

[random blade]

I can understand what you're aiming for, but spread that only activates at certain ranges would not feel good

[junior herald]

Never

[finite mauve]

I think you dont like it bc you don't understand the gunplay

[junior herald]

I do, its simply just mid lol

[finite mauve]

2042 is boring gunplay wise. Recoil is low and you can laser

[west mirage]

You shouldn't but the full autoing in medium ranges (25-35m) should be viable with recoil patterns that you need to master

[celest monolith]

Spread variations close distances too but aa tighter pattern. When it goes long that's when it's more noticeable

At least that's what I think

[random blade]

besides what's the point of spread by it's very nature spreads so it's felt less at close range

[celest monolith]

Like an actual gun

[finite mauve]

Well im not talking about recoil, I'm talking about bloom. It's not the recoil that makes you miss its full autoing and bloom ramping up.

[west mirage]

This crap is awful
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/q9873d/new_to_bf4_coming_from_bfv_i_assume_this_game_has/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[rugged barn]

that's intended

[west mirage]

On long ranges yes

[celest monolith]

I mean that's how guns work

[west mirage]

But on medium ranges nah

[finite mauve]

No its not its just you don't know how to play the game

💀💀💀

Don't blame your lack of knowledge for the game being allegedly* bad

[gentle plover]

It's a game, a game should be enjoyable and have depth to its mechanics.

[tropic folio]

me when i can't just hold left click to win

[finite mauve]

Lmao exactly

Its so easy

[rugged barn]

medium ranges

[finite mauve]

Gunplay in 4 isn't hard

[west mirage]

I have 400 hrs in BF4 and no that the gunplay is awful

[celest monolith]

I agree

[finite mauve]

Just go on auto and keep tapping and un tapping trigger at semi long range

Its not hard

[west mirage]

It isn't you just microburst to win

[junior herald]

We arent saying that its hard, we are saying that its awful

[finite mauve]

Bruh you trippin

[junior herald]

Its not fun at all

[gentle plover]

Exactly, tap firing was easy and everyone did it. It didn't mean that it benefitted the experience.

[celest monolith]

Spread makes itself more noticeable after so many yards though

[west mirage]

Agree

[finite mauve]

Yes becuase you don't understand the game and just full spray

[celest monolith]

But a pattern would be better

[junior herald]

I dont tho?

[celest monolith]

So the skill ceiling is raised

[finite mauve]

I can bit targets with an assault rifle at like 150+ meters fine really

[west mirage]

A full recoil pattern is much better

[celest monolith]

Yeah for sure

[rugged barn]

how pattern would make sense for consoles? Makes no sense

[finite mauve]

You obviously do

[junior herald]

Just bc you can do that it doesnt mean that its fun lmaoo

[finite mauve]

Ofc it depends on gun to

[celest monolith]

Random is... Not the move

[west mirage]

Yes with the awful spread even if the player control the recoil

[finite mauve]

Accuracy stat is one of the most important stats

[gentle plover]

If we had BF2042 with no random horizontal recoil, but proper spread reset to benefit bursting for ranged combat that would fit best.

[finite mauve]

Also range

[haughty skiff]

The bullet spread in bf4 is annoying

[finite mauve]

Its not hard

[haughty skiff]

But its beneficial

[finite mauve]

Just burst the gun

[tropic folio]

you need to control the recoil and your trigger finger lmao

[junior herald]

Ive never said that it is?

[haughty skiff]

Thats the catch

[finite mauve]

Becuase you are full spreading

🤦‍♂️

[celest monolith]

I'm coming from CS and didn't even know random spread was a thing until last week and it caught me way off guard

[west mirage]

Yeah which I did most of the time and find it quite boring

[finite mauve]

You have a problem and you have a solution

[celest monolith]

Never heard of that before

[junior herald]

Ive literally said it twice already, its not hard, its just unfun af

[tropic folio]

bf4 gunplay was more interesting and that made it fun, laser beams just don't feel the same

[finite mauve]

Tap the trigger

[finite mauve]

Yes

[west mirage]

Hell coming from Rust and PUBG those game reward you mastering on the recoil pattern

Especially Rust

[celest monolith]

Not beams. Still have recoil but a pattern you can somewhat account for

[junior herald]

Why would I if I can boot up any newer bf and its a 1000x more fun?

Maps sucked in 4, guns all feel the same

[finite mauve]

Well i guess some of this is subjective

[west mirage]

Big facts like would rather have actual recoil patterns to master that rewards you for controlling it like in PUBG and Rust

[rugged barn]

both are specifically for PC...Battlefield also is for consoles

[junior herald]

I...kinda said that as well tho?

[junior herald]

Rust is on console as well

[finite mauve]

Ok

[rugged barn]

after how long?

[gentle plover]

I still think spread would be beneficial for long range purposes to reign in full auto out to range, but predictable pattern recoil would be a welcome change too.

[celest monolith]

If you're sprinting while shooting I can understand a more random pattern but outside of that yeah. Let people hone the patterns. A higher skill ceiling is more fun

[junior herald]

Its been on console for years now

[gentle plover]

The random horizontal recoil in BF games is something that shouldn't remain in the next game.

[celest monolith]

I mean if throw a bit of variation into it but not far off the pattern

[junior herald]

Ngl all that would do is move the gap between low and high skill players

[west mirage]

Which DICE already did great in BFV's gunplay cuz spread only affects long ranges while in short to medium ranges requires you to learn the recoil pattern and control it, the only problem is that it's randomized

[celest monolith]

For sure

[junior herald]

Average kd would go down while good players would just farm more

[celest monolith]

Fair

[west mirage]

Big facts which is want I wanted

[gentle plover]

And it decoupled from the screen centre

[finite mauve]

Bf2042 guns don't have weight to them at all really. Gun sounds are not good and powerful, they are average and stale, also recoil as well is low and they beam.

Battlefield 4s gun sounds are powerful and more dynamic from where you are, also recoil is not low or high but it's perfect, also they dont beam so you can't get cross mapped which is annoying. There's a skill curve and that's the bloom of it and it's not hard at all. You just tap fire on auto its ez.

[celest monolith]

Maybe something in the tutorial showing it's a thing

[haughty skiff]

Bro

[celest monolith]

So newer players know to work on it

[finite mauve]

What?

[haughty skiff]

Do you realize that you are not the only one who plays battlefield here?

We all know we gotta spread

Not new info

[celest monolith]

I've always burst fired coming from CS 1.3 but I think spray patterns are a solid way to raise the ceiling

[haughty skiff]

Its annoying anyways

[finite mauve]

What are you om about

You misunderstood what I said

Full spread meaning you are shooting full auto and not laying off trigger.

Your bloom is going to ramp up and you wonder why your shots aren't hitting

You have a problem and you have a solution.

It's not complicated

🤷🏻‍♂️

[haughty skiff]

You really think its new info huh

[rugged barn]

yeah, this is not a competitive game, let it stay in the casual lane

[haughty skiff]

We all do that

[finite mauve]

No i dont???

[haughty skiff]

Still annoying

[west mirage]

Which is why I tend to like BFV more cuz it's the only game where you bullets go where you aim and it has recoil pattern that rewards you for controlling it plus the spread only occurs when you try to full auto on long ranges around 40-45m+

[finite mauve]

What are you talking about

Bf2042 is hollow

Gunplay wise

Guns don't have spread really

Its not really fun objectively

Some ppl ofc will have fun yes

But objectively bf4s gunplay is best

Objectively

[west mirage]

Agreed in CS:GO learning both the M4 and AK spray pattern rewards you (but the M4 is bs and prefer M4A1s)

[finite mauve]

Ppl complain that they can't hit their shots. Maybe you don't fully auto without ever laying off the trigger at 40+ meters

💀

[haughty skiff]

Didnt say it needs to be like bf2042

[rugged barn]

BF3 gun sounds were the best back then

[finite mauve]

???

[finite mauve]

3 and 4

[gentle plover]

BF2042 + recoil patterns + faster spread accumulation + faster spread reset I think would be pretty much perfect

[haughty skiff]

There is a middle ground

Bf4 is over exaggerated

Or whatever the word

[finite mauve]

No its not

You just don't know how to play

[haughty skiff]

You get it?

[finite mauve]

You have a problem (bloom)

And you have an easy solution

[haughty skiff]

You really reject any other opinion

[west mirage]

No one here is suggesting to full auto on 40+m but rather full-auto around (20-35m) should be viable

[finite mauve]

(Stop full full spraying people)

[west mirage]

20-35m are medium ranges

[finite mauve]

Yeah but obviously those very depending on the gun

Accuracy is one of the most important stats

For me accuracy and range

I use the SAR Assault rifle due to its high accuracy, range, and stability

Thing is a laser really

Although RPM is a little lower

[haughty skiff]

Saying that its over exaggerated isnt me being a worse player

Its me having an opinion on the game

Thats the difference

[finite mauve]

It'd over exaggerated bc you aren't tao firing

[haughty skiff]

I see that bf4 bullet spread is over exaggerated

Im tap firing

Im

[finite mauve]

You pur finger off and on the trigger fast and shots will land ez

[haughty skiff]

I am
T A P firing

Yet i dont like it

Thats it

[finite mauve]

Ok

[haughty skiff]

Simple as that

Anyway bf2042 games are so boring

So short

[gentle plover]

BF2042 isn't the best, but it has the M44 and that's sometimes enough. I really hope the next game has another long range revolver.

[rugged barn]

I mean...they can add as many weapons as BF4 + many more

[celest monolith]

As someone that just got back into BF a cpl weeks ago. 2042 just feels... Soulless

1 feels like a legit fucking war

5 too to an extent

[west mirage]

Actually tap firing doesn't reset your spread which is been used alot in BF4 and so does micro bursting cuz the spread instantly affects when you full auto way past 15m which awful if you ask me

Like it should start to affect way past 30-35m

[west mirage]

They did a great job with the pacific but that's it

Most of the maps doesn't feel like the pacific dlc maps

[celest monolith]

Yeah. I was having a blast the other night in some of the pacific maps but a bunch of others I was just like ehh I'll boot up 1 instead

[west mirage]

Like something is lacking

[copper haven]

[celest monolith]

Precisely. There's something that's not there and I feel like it's just the map design (could be way wrong)

Shit like argonnne forest is tough to beat and won't be every map in 5

So I give it leeway but there's a few maps where I just don't really care

[west mirage]

The maps in BFV are alright to 50/50 like maps like Fjell is awful to play if you playing against level 500 players that uses bombers/planes

[gentle plover]

That's easy, there's no atmosphere and the maps feel completely disconnected from the narrative of the whole world being at war and resources are scarce and yet every map is pristine, lush, and no combat is taking place in the distance surrounding this supposedly important area.

[celest monolith]

That's definitely part of it. It's a stomp almost every match

[gentle plover]

It feels like an isolated skirmish in a set piece instead of a small chunk of combat in an otherwise grand conflict.

[west mirage]

Cuz it is, DICE said they wanted to focus on the "lesser known wars"

[celest monolith]

I had a great time earlier on one of the pacific maps repairing tanks while we moved in. Then looked at the board and that poor team probably wanted to leave

Cool map too with tunnels and stuff I enjoyed that map

[west mirage]

The fact they cancelled the game before releasing the Eastern Conflict dlc still left me sour taste in my mouth

[celest monolith]

Then we went into the forest with rivers and jungle. I'd never played those maps before and was like oh shit 5 got some bangers

[west mirage]

The chances of playing on Stalingrad...

While using Mosins and the PPSH

[celest monolith]

Yeah I think them dipping on it without fixing/balancing a few things is kinda what borked it. Because it's a cool game

What about novick. I hate that map so much

Sniper v sniper with nobody really doing anything

[noble hound]

Lol no

[noble hound]

Narvik?

[celest monolith]

Yeah that

[noble hound]

Narvik is a mid map

[celest monolith]

The snow hellhole

[west mirage]

Narvick? I rarely play that map

[rugged barn]

z'they would need to account for that, which imo could make the maps more spread out

[celest monolith]

I really dislike it

[noble hound]

All BFV maps are mid to terrible. Zero good maps

[haughty skiff]

Yeah compared to Bf1 which literally 5 seconds in you have more fun and immersion that 10 hours in BF2042

But the things is, its WW1..

[celest monolith]

That map I played the other day (I wish I could remember the name) was super fun. Problem was it was a god damn stomp

[west mirage]

It doesn't need to be spread out but rather have more covers

[celest monolith]

I built a bunch of sandbags though

[noble hound]

Immersion is broken instantly when there are no country factions

[haughty skiff]

5 doesn't feel like a war tbh

[celest monolith]

It doesn't. It feels like a game. 1 feels like legit war

[haughty skiff]

It feels like a game COD streamers would play

[summer forge]

A team is trash when it’s 477 to 39, just sayin lol

[noble hound]

No one cares about PWCs or nopats

[haughty skiff]

BF1 is amazing

AMAZING

[celest monolith]

Not just the level ambiance, but the voice lines, bombs hitting, etc

Yeah I got bf1 on sale a cpl weeks ago and I haven't stopped playing

[haughty skiff]

the immersion and bodies flying around you and the gore

[west mirage]

It is but I have some problems with it

[haughty skiff]

Man

[haughty skiff]

Yeah me too

[celest monolith]

I'm absolutely dog water but it's so awesome

[noble hound]

If BF6 is just NATO vs some random faction that happens to speak russian the game is a failure

[celest monolith]

I really love argonnne and chateau

[west mirage]

Still don't know why the Russian DLC was delayed

[noble hound]

Argonne sucks. Idk what chateua is

[celest monolith]

I always play operations (bf1) or breakthrough on 5

You take that back

[noble hound]

Argonne is bad

[celest monolith]

Lemme figure out the name. There's a big ass chatuea

[west mirage]

After they dropped the first dlc, we had to wait for months for the Russian DLC

[haughty skiff]

Bf2042 feels soulless because you dont know what you are fighting for

Any game with no countries factions

In BF1 ottomans will fill ottoman sides and imagine themselves fighting next to their grandpa and the game gives the extra immersion with the music and war sounds

[noble hound]

C is a shitstorm

[runic delta]

Ballroom Blitz?

[celest monolith]

Ballroom

[haughty skiff]

Ballroom

[celest monolith]

Had a brain fart

[rugged barn]

Adding then the fortification system?

[noble hound]

Ballroom Blitz is good

[haughty skiff]

Good luck getting last sector with a behemoth deployed on ya

[celest monolith]

It's such a good time

[west mirage]

Yeah which was a great addition tbh

[noble hound]

I dont really like any Bf1 infantry maps

[haughty skiff]

I wish a game with modern setting and BF1 immersion

All im asking for

[celest monolith]

Fortifications in 5 are amazing and need to be incorporated

[west mirage]

But it needs to be placed on specific parts of the map

[noble hound]

Suez is godawful. Argonne sucks. Achi baba is overrated. Fort De Vaux is only decent one.

[haughty skiff]

Its such a good game that i want to live forever, a masterpiece

[celest monolith]

I fucking hate suez so much

[runic delta]

Suez is very broken on Operations

[haughty skiff]

The ottoman maps are dogwater in nutshell

[runic delta]

Turks pretty much always win

[west mirage]

It always is

Awful

[noble hound]

Fao Fortress is okay

[celest monolith]

De veaux is tight. I like argonnne though maybe because it's the only map I'm really good at

[haughty skiff]

Monte gappa is good

[celest monolith]

What's the city map? I've taken a liking to it as well

[haughty skiff]

Or grappa

[noble hound]

I guess suez isnt technically infantry but it still sucks

[celest monolith]

Fuck grappa so much

[haughty skiff]

You need a great tank guy and 2 engineers

[solid hinge]

i been playing bf2 modern combat on series x, forgot that it has the worst fps FOV of all time easily

[noble hound]

Or just quit because the map is bad

And boring

[haughty skiff]

Im the good tank guy

[noble hound]

Remember when it was just 3 flags?

[rugged barn]

BF3 and BF4's lines were also great and funny af

[haughty skiff]

😎

[noble hound]

Suez used to actually be much worse at launch

[haughty skiff]

BF1 is a masterpiece that dice needs to at least implement its immersion in the next battlefield

[west mirage]

Agree but more so BF3 and cuz the soldiers quips on BF4 were serious

BF3 had the "military humor"

[solid hinge]

need some fuckin rounds here, im being suppressed

[haughty skiff]

Man i remember the day BF1 trailer dropped

That was the most epic day in modern history

[celest monolith]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but suppresion is good

[noble hound]

I unfortunately think bf6 being a live service means EA will ruin its aesthetic almost immediately

[haughty skiff]

Just dont add skins

Here you go

Great game

[noble hound]

Lmao

[celest monolith]

Yes please

[rugged barn]

they can make both of those, make it serious, but funny too

[haughty skiff]

What a simple formula i wonder who will MESS IT up

[noble hound]

It being a live service means EA is gonna pump out the most godawful crap imaginable

[solid hinge]

everybody flipped when santa skin was shown, highly doubt they'll try that again when they actually NEED this bf to succeed

[celest monolith]

I hadn't played a shooter since CS source. Really wanted to play one. Download Cod Warzone and my first match I got killed by a huge doll from squid games.

I was like wtf is this

[haughty skiff]

Or nicki minaj or whatever her name is

[celest monolith]

That's when I found out BFs were on sale and bought 1,5,and 2042

[haughty skiff]

Snoop dog

[celest monolith]

Haven't left since

[rugged barn]

That depends

[solid hinge]

warzone is one of the worst fps i've played

[celest monolith]

Yeah exactly

[haughty skiff]

Of course you enjoyed bf1 the most

[celest monolith]

Dude it's terrible

[rugged barn]

I hate how Warzone and Fortnite does those

[celest monolith]

I did lol

However I've been playing more 5 than anything

[solid hinge]

fortnite is literally 10 times better than warzone its crazy

[rugged barn]

Why not maintain the militaristic nature of BF4 and the cosmetic modifications of BFV?

[celest monolith]

I think just because I'm trying to prove to myself I can aim

[rugged barn]

i hate the cosmetics, its just so whack

[solid hinge]

the ttk is wayyyy too high for any fps standards

[celest monolith]

I downloaded Fortnite and played with my daughter in zero build and it is SO Much better than warzone

[haughty skiff]

I remember my first opreations game i was used to mobile gaming and watching pc gaming YouTube videos and when i first tried bf 1 i was like

"holy f***** sh**"

What a masterpiece

[west mirage]

Depends if it's visual only or not cuz suppression affects your accuracy but if the next BF will have BF4's gunplay but with a bit of tighten spread that only affects when you full auto way past 35-38m then I might consider having BF4's suppression even if I prefer BFV's which is visual only

[haughty skiff]

I then immediately downloaded bf4 but didnt feel the vibes i got from bf1

[solid hinge]

i think 3's heavier suppression helped the flow

[celest monolith]

Someone posted a thing on the subreddit recently where it suppresses your hud and i thought that was a good idea

[livid bay]

Because they think that they can replicate the success of CoD and Fortnite with weird skins and collabs

[celest monolith]

Again I just started playing though so I dunno

[haughty skiff]

They should learn that wont work

"should"

[livid bay]

They barely even have collabs tho so it's just weird skins

[noble hound]

Not every franchise needs to lose its integrity

[celest monolith]

Squid games in my army?

[haughty skiff]

Battlefield did

[noble hound]

Then go in the opposite direction

[haughty skiff]

Anyone played BO6?

[solid hinge]

yeah its trash

[noble hound]

I havent owned a cod game since WAW

[west mirage]

Still don't forget the awful Santa Skin and the Cowboy skin from 2042 cuz both of these were awful and I'm glad the community were against it but I still hate they decided to still release the woody cowboy skin

[haughty skiff]

When you think about it its literally as simple as that yet they dont do it, 😭😭

[noble hound]

COD is uninteresting to me

[solid hinge]

my refund was denied so i was super butthurt and wont buy another cod again

[haughty skiff]

Yeah couldn't enjoy it for more than 6 hours

[noble hound]

Because they have no integrity

[west mirage]

Used but it's trash cuz of aim assist

[haughty skiff]

I got it from game pass lol

[livid bay]

I'd honestly love if they added a customization system like Insurgency or Ghost Recon even if 90% of it was locked behind in-game purchases

[rugged barn]

WHY

[haughty skiff]

Never pressed the uninstall button so fast

[noble hound]

Why even get it lol

[haughty skiff]

Tried it

Its on game pass after all

[solid hinge]

i played it for about a week and was done, first cod i played since like black ops 3. same ol bs

[noble hound]

I feel like most of cod purchases are exactly that. Still dont understand why people buy cod.

[west mirage]

Wdym? Both the santa skin and cowboy skins were awful

[haughty skiff]

I've grown with battlefield 3/4 so i couldn't accept any cod games

Always thought that BF was superior in every way

[haughty skiff]

Well some like to sweat

[rugged barn]

that's my point, it doesnt fit the BF style

[solid hinge]

oh once bf3 released cod was fully dead to me, but i popped to check it out occasionally

[celest monolith]

Cod is trying to be a damn arena shooter it seems like

[west mirage]

Man if there's one thing the next BF should have is having a input based matchmaking/option even if Server Browser exist

[noble hound]

If i want an arena style shooter I play halo (when it was still good). BRs do not interest me. COD campaigns do not interest me. Zombies does not interest me. Maybe im rare

[celest monolith]

Which I lived UT and titanfall but... No