#battlefield-legacy-titles

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shy yacht
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1942 as well

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bless those games for having bots too

narrow lance
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I totally agree with you MMD - it's still here, won't ever really die, but I mean it's hanging on with life support, Punkbuster stopped packaging all the components you need together.

shy yacht
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can you play vs bots in 2042 with no internet?

narrow lance
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So new players struggle to get into games to begin with, imagine, a new BF4 player, rare, but we get em in bZ servers all the time

solar quarry
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I played it on PC a few years ago. As soon as I spawned in I got shelled by a tank from across the map, through walls, every time, no matter where I spawned. May have been some cheating involved.

solar nexus
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Battlefield 2 used gamespy for the multiplayer and gamespy got shutdown more than a decade ago. So no more official servers. But there are mods to make the multiplayer work

shy yacht
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i played bf2 a few years ago

solar nexus
shy yacht
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thats so dumb

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it has bots

solar nexus
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That's why games with single player campaign is important

shy yacht
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2042 has more value than 3 and 4 bc it has bots, but it needs to be online???

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id rather have bots than a campaign

narrow lance
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yes, it's a live service game MMD

shy yacht
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bc the campaign will probably suck

solar nexus
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Bad company 2 multiplayer still can be played even though ea servers for it got shutdown long ago even without any mods. It has local multiplayer

shy yacht
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there is no reason for any game to die

solar nexus
narrow lance
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Ah, but if they control the hosting, then you don't need to worry about it buddy /s

shy yacht
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100% publisher choice

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every time

solar nexus
narrow lance
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EA also said that Battlefront 1 was a commerical success, so who are we believing here

solar nexus
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Battlefield Hardline shouldn't have been called battlefield. It got hated

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Battlefield Hardline could've been a dlc of bf4

shy yacht
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hardline should have been dlc for 4

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it was so cool

narrow lance
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Eh, still a battlefield entry, but could have been an add on? Maybe a standalone title would have been better in the long run

solar nexus
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Battlefield 1 single player stories were amazing. Most of the reviews of that game focused on the campaign

narrow lance
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seperate from the BF franchise

shy yacht
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maybe not dlc, but not a full price game

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โ‚ฌ30-40

solar nexus
shy yacht
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should have been โ‚ฌ40 and free for BF4 premium memebers

narrow lance
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IMO, 2042 even on sale at $11 USD was still a tough buy for me lol

That's a game that could have been FTP and monetized out the wazoo if they played that card right

solar nexus
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Should've been a dlc of bf4

balmy orchid
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which battlefield had the vietnam dlc?

shy yacht
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how would it work as dlc for 4, would it be in server rotations

solar nexus
shy yacht
solar nexus
shy yacht
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or was it a stand alone game?

solar nexus
balmy orchid
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that's what I thought. I miss large dlc drops like that in games nowadays

shy yacht
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yeah

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stand alone

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not dlc

solar nexus
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Battlefield 1 was a risky project after battlefield Hardline flopped but it paid off. Battlefield 1 was well liked and it was a unique FPS take

balmy orchid
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no, i'm talking about the bad company 2 dlc

shy yacht
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bf1 is the top selling bf game

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i think

narrow lance
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In the words of Louis Rossman, if you're going to be a bch, be the full bch and don't be a half bch.

If you're gonna Monetize the game after you already sold it to me, you may as well sell me $12.99 digital shoelaces while you're at it lmaooo

solar nexus
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Battlefield 5 had trouble at launch and the game was killed before it could take off

solar quarry
solar nexus
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Battlefield 5 reveal and launch had a lot of controveries

solar quarry
shy yacht
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did they say anything about payed dlc for 6

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i hope they ditch the payed maps

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just sell skins

narrow lance
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I'd rather pay for the DLCs if you want my honesty, at least the older DLC drops made you enjoy the game for a longer period

solar nexus
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Battlefield 5 focused on the lesser known battles. Players wanted german and Soviet maps and factions but those never came to the game

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Battlefield 5 was killed in favor of bf2042

shy yacht
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its not good in the long term

solar nexus
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Battlefield portal is returning in the next battlefield

narrow lance
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I still have stuff I could do within BF4 as far as challenges go, but 2042, I can't find a single one that makes me excited to grind it

alpine badge
solar nexus
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They should add battlefield vietnam and 2142 in the next battlefield portal

solar nexus
narrow lance
balmy orchid
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Is there a chat channel in here discussing the Battlefield Labs information? I filled out the survey and whatnot online but wanted to see if there was more information somewhere.

narrow lance
balmy orchid
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I so miss BF4. I put thousands of hours into that game.

solar nexus
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Battlefield 3 was very good

rugged barn
solar nexus
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The next battlefield is taking more than 4 years

jaunty sand
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the halo games also used to take 3 years in between

solar quarry
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I don't know I think you should add the years after release too. Seeems like BF2042 finally got out of beta in 2024. ๐Ÿ˜‚

narrow lance
# rugged barn normally? Payed DLC

Right, it also kinda incentizes the Devs and the QA teams to make sure the DLCs are of high enough quality to ensure value is given to the players and to the shareholders. If it's a free DLC you could put a spray paint in there, a "remastered" asset flip and boom, that's the freeLC nowadays

solar quarry
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yeah that's a good point.

narrow lance
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I'd be cool with BF6 taking it's time and extending deadlines as long as they really put their hearts into it

rugged barn
jaunty sand
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i js want the game to be good man they already have the winning formulas to take insparation from

rugged barn
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its what is happening right now, many wont preorder because bf2042 is so bad

solar quarry
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Yuss

solar nexus
narrow lance
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Exactly, I won't pre-order unless I know my voice is heard in the Labs program

solar nexus
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Players were asking for a server browser since day one of bf2042 but we didn't get it still to this day

jaunty sand
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do yall want the crysis style attachment swapping to return

halcyon sundial
solar quarry
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Even if they do one of those "free expansion packs later on if you preorder" I'm still not gonna dewitt. Gonna wait until I see an angry youtuber like Enders playing it and not raging. Then buy.

narrow lance
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I preferred the "set it and go" method. the Swap on the go stuff is kinda gimmicky imo

jaunty sand
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ye

solar nexus
narrow lance
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if THERUSSIANBADGER gets on BF6 and cheeses folks, I'm in dawg, that simple

solar quarry
jaunty sand
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ye vehicle call ins were bound to be stupid

solar nexus
jaunty sand
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special vehicles with squad points like bf5 is cool

narrow lance
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Still no Global Chat

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so I can't call Reds a bunch of LOSERS FOR FUMBLING THEIR MCOM!

orchid monolith
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Battlefield 2 was the best in the franchise.

solar nexus
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In bf 2042's concept arts and a leaked trailer, it had the class based solders which never came to the final game

halcyon sundial
narrow lance
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All they gotta do IMO is BF4 but with the same graphics package, leave the mechanics alone, update the gun rosters with more modernized kits, maybe the 2011 platform, couple more glock options, maybe even add in a chambering system where you can pick what round you want the rifle to fire?

solar nexus
solar nexus
rugged barn
solar nexus
jaunty sand
solar quarry
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WTF. So what makes a game triple-A now? Just the size of the studio?

Definitely can't be the quality of product. Seems like all the big studios suck massive balls over the past 10-15 years.

Just ship an abortion and tell people if they don't like it then don't play it?

halcyon sundial
narrow lance
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I can see the chambering going poorly

solid hinge
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bigger budgets, lower skillz

solar nexus
jaunty sand
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but rly just make bf5 with bf1 immersion in a modern setting instant best bf game if made correctly

hollow wolf
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bf1942 such a good time

narrow lance
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but keep the weapons in the same class? Like there are plenty of AKs that fire NATO cartridges

rugged barn
solar quarry
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how they be countin these's A's? Michelin ratings for their cafeteria?

ohh I see. cash.

solar nexus
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Ea should revive medal of honor to compete against COD instead of using battlefield to compete against COD

narrow lance
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I could see that working

sacred eagle
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I don't know how I feel about gunsmith in games, yeah it's cool but I HATE meta gun builds and stuff like that

rugged barn
narrow lance
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Yeah I see the point there too

jaunty sand
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i liked bf4s system where everything was relitively viable and u could build it to perform better in certian areas

rugged barn
narrow lance
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BF4 did very well with the balancing

solar quarry
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yeah that was good but also like class locked weapons - at least a percentage should be

rugged barn
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Barrel, grip, aim, and side stuff, that's it

solar nexus
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Battlefield and COD used to go hand to hand. But those days won't come back. People used to compare battlefield and COD back in the days with the similar releases

sacred eagle
jaunty sand
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yes class locked weapons should always exist imo

narrow lance
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only a few of the guns were "OP" but even then, you could still slam those meta builds with a PP2K

sacred eagle
narrow lance
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I think they have something going with the variety of optics, I do like that, I like me some opticions

solar quarry
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I just wish we could attach slams to teammates.

rugged barn
sacred eagle
rugged barn
solar nexus
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EA should lock in with the next battlefield because there is a direct alternative called delta force if the next battlefield doesn't do well

jaunty sand
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hope bf6 has more than 5 guns at launch instead just adding them via live service

rugged barn
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As i said before, only 4 interfering like BF4, but allowing us to customize the entire rest of the gun the way we want, COSMETICALLY

solar nexus
sacred eagle
narrow lance
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Honestly, I could see BF becoming removed from EA's sheets and being thrown to the market if it can't become profitable, I'd like to see BF4 get turned over to the community after parading a dead man's corpse around so many years after he "died"

sacred eagle
jaunty sand
rugged barn
marsh dragon
solar nexus
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I heard that the next battlefield is already going through playtesting. Maybe some YouTubers took part in it

sacred eagle
rugged barn
marsh dragon
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god please Gunsmith mechanic in BF6

jaunty sand
narrow lance
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IF the community got their hands on BF4 that had full control over assets and such, I could see BF4 being the new jump off point

solar quarry
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Delta Force is already failing. It's COD with 2042 graphics.

If Battlefield fails, our only hope is TTK games. Nobody knows what they are working on, but I think it's gotta have some Battlefield DNA.

sacred eagle
narrow lance
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I'd love a Tarkov style Gunsmith

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I know that's so cliche, but what's so bad about it

marsh dragon
rugged barn
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Im all in for Tarkov or Delta Force weapon customization, but maintain 4 slots for weapons that change it stat wise

narrow lance
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don't give it "super hard" numbers like they do in Tarkov, but obv a foregrip should reduce Recoil, etc

solar nexus
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Cod gunsmith?

narrow lance
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I like what Lunber is sayin

marsh dragon
jaunty sand
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i dont rly think bf NEEDS a cod style "gunsmith" cos afaik no bf game did anything super crazy with weapon attachments

sacred eagle
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And also UI should make it known that those attachments are what change things, that way casual players don't get overwhelmed

rugged barn
narrow lance
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Several people are typing, all because I said "DID SOMEONE SAY BF4???"

solar quarry
narrow lance
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love this community

marsh dragon
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guys remember when 30 round in 1 mag was enough?

narrow lance
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got you Butt

jaunty sand
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im not a fan of le extended mag attachment in battlefield

rugged barn
sacred eagle
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Need a g18 drum mag pls

narrow lance
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horrible copy of the image, but this breaks it down

marsh dragon
narrow lance
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I can't post it directly, but let me do this with my guns in BF

marsh dragon
jaunty sand
rugged barn
narrow lance
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the Magpul FMG9 was FIREEEEE

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"Star Wars folding RIFLE"

rugged barn
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AND DONT MAKE LASER GUNS LIKE DELTA FORCE

jaunty sand
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(is not actually a rifle) trole

marsh dragon
rugged barn
solar quarry
jaunty sand
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any mag extention attachment is instantly gonna be meta i think

rugged barn
marsh dragon
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more dakka

narrow lance
rugged barn
ancient aspen
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True soldier not die like brother and sister

jaunty sand
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i like how bf seperates itself from cod by generally not messing around too much with extended magazines

narrow lance
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WYSIWYG

sacred eagle
narrow lance
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What you see is what you get, I liked that about BF4

rugged barn
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Like, Delta Force makes it quite balanced with higher mags because it reduces some stats that are important, like recoil

narrow lance
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PackedRacoon, that would be interesting

jaunty sand
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i feel like if u want more ammo you ought to use a gun that has a bigger mag like an rpk or somthin

narrow lance
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Tarkov does that with Extended mags - if you got a Mag 100 on your M4, the recoil climbs higher irregardless of what you put on it

sacred eagle
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So you have bigger mags but you'll have to hunt for ammo more often

narrow lance
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Whole reason why support class exists buddies

rugged barn
narrow lance
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Do you battle roles and nobodies ever out of ammo lmao

ancient aspen
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Team fight fun but tank get ready kill them

rugged barn
narrow lance
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It really makes the gunfighting balanced

ancient aspen
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True

narrow lance
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if you dumped 100 rounds of laser beams out of a no recoil M4, what seperates you from the CoD M4 Meta Buildz

marsh dragon
solar quarry
sacred eagle
rugged barn
narrow lance
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Yeah, that's also a penalty, ADS and Draw speed are reduced too

rugged barn
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so it needs to have another layer of balance which affects your recoil

jaunty sand
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hopefully bf6 also makes recoil an actual thing cos in 2042 its just not

narrow lance
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In Tarkov, gunfights can literally be decided by a lucky stray round to the head,eyes

sacred eagle
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My hope is that they add a forum channel in the discord for ideas on labs that people can react on to show if they like them or not

marsh dragon
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i mean we already have 75 round drums on AKs in DF and its mostly meta to get magazines as big as possible

jaunty sand
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coz df sucks lol?

narrow lance
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so the 100 round mags are deffo useful, but you have a slightly longer draw time from sprint etc. That mag fed SAW is helpful in CQB where you know you need to already have sightlines on it

marsh dragon
rugged barn
orchid monolith
narrow lance
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I think if BF decided to run more than 4 attachments it should deffo be cosmetic kits

marsh dragon
jaunty sand
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i feel like if theyre gonna do extended mags they should do it like bf3 where it was only for a select few guns

narrow lance
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if they wanted to monetize, they could sell me Zentico furniture

sacred eagle
jaunty sand
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ARs having extended mags is bound to cause issues

rugged barn
marsh dragon
rugged barn
sacred eagle
orchid monolith
narrow lance
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Just sell me licensed parts and such, I'll buy a Krink kit over a skin that is supposed to be "neochrome" but just looks fuckin purple lmao

marsh dragon
orchid monolith
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What about singleplayer matches against bots?

marsh dragon
rugged barn
jaunty sand
marsh dragon
narrow lance
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I think we as a community could really help the devs if they'd listen

marsh dragon
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its bad for business

next mango
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there's still ways to play battlefield 2 online

sacred eagle
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They should be happy with our 70$ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

narrow lance
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if the shareholders were truly pant-shittingly scared over losing us, wouldn't it be good biz sense to siddown with us and chat about what we'd like to play?

rugged barn
jaunty sand
sacred eagle
narrow lance
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Halo 3 vs ODST vs 5 - that's a whoooooole bunch of saltiness nobody ever wants to dig up

marsh dragon
rugged barn
jaunty sand
marsh dragon
sacred eagle
rugged barn
sacred eagle
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They are funding a movie lmaoo

narrow lance
rugged barn
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If they also released for Xbox...

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MAN

marsh dragon
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for real make XBOX release

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we need reinforcments

sacred eagle
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That'd be awesome

narrow lance
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everyone in here chatting up a storm, all of ya are fuckin chads

solar quarry
jaunty sand
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mfw helldivers wouldve made the most perfect odst game but microsoft hates halo

sacred eagle
marsh dragon
rugged barn
narrow lance
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I wish that this could be how the internet handles discourse topics, we share our objective world views and how we can integrate ideas

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hell hath no fury like a scored BF enjoyer

marsh dragon
sacred eagle
marsh dragon
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its different

jaunty sand
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ye sure its permanent but the rest of halo infinite was very lackluster

solar quarry
rugged barn
rugged barn
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As long as its permanent and doesnt feel like im losing stuff, im fine with it

narrow lance
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Yeah! Hey Butt, start being rude about ideas please?

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I feel like we need some downdoots in here for shits&gigs

rugged barn
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Anyway, its funny how FOMO is stupid and makes NO SENSE in digital goods

narrow lance
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this feels too wholesome, did someone just UCAV my mailbox, come on man it's like 12:30AM here!

sacred eagle
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Yeah this isn't normal and it's scaring me, someone needs to tell me im a poor little console gamer

solar quarry
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Problem is, we can't see each other's stats. ๐Ÿ˜ญ

marsh dragon
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bring proximity chat to BF6 (it can be turned off) please

solar quarry
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Now I miss Battlelog. ( ,_,)

narrow lance
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when the stats aren't out, everyone's friendly, but let us find out you like using Incendiaries over Minis

marsh dragon
solar quarry
marsh dragon
sacred eagle
marsh dragon
jaunty sand
narrow lance
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PC Chad over here, I like how Console added M&K to the controls list, so they could bridge a gap, good on M$ for that ONE thing over a tragic 10 year history of bloating Windows

marsh dragon
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mostly summer and crossbows but still good

rugged barn
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also im curious

sacred eagle
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I respect your right to use a artillery truck in spawn if you respect my right to call you profanities in chat and hit you with c4 jeep

jaunty sand
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he spittin

rugged barn
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How do you guys prefer reviving? BF1/BFV style with animation or BF3/BF4 style with charge up time?

solar quarry
narrow lance
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I love the Battlefield legacy guys, we all just wanna have fun lol

No matter your playstyle, you're loved and respected here, we're all a bunch of worms in the bowels of EA trying to enjoy SOMETHING here lmao

jaunty sand
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also bf1 didnt have animations it worked the same as 3 and 4

urban whale
marsh dragon
rugged barn
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it adsd more charm to the game

narrow lance
sacred eagle
narrow lance
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Oh yeah, add all the animations, I want muh BF6 to be animated

marsh dragon
jaunty sand
sacred eagle
rugged barn
jaunty sand
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if u didnt old it u just stick em with it and rambo revive em

marsh dragon
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BRING BACK FIRST PERSON KNIFE KILLS

sorry it was my soul screaming

narrow lance
sacred eagle
narrow lance
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BRING BACK THE DISRESPECTFUL TAG GRAB SON!

yellin from my soul too buddy!

sacred eagle
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If counter knifing gets added back there needs to be a quick time event mini game instead of a one button counter

rugged barn
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Either you go in and risk dying while getting to cover, or you stay out and wahtever

urban whale
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What I like about battlefield is everyone is having their own little battles on there when you get up high and watch over the battles commencing everyone is just going their own things a quite a sight to see

marsh dragon
narrow lance
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balances those clips where they just get in and out of tanks lmao

solar quarry
rugged barn
narrow lance
urban whale
jaunty sand
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i think having animations increases immersion and stops people cheesing repairs

sacred eagle
rugged barn
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also that yes, serves as a balance measure

jaunty sand
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im a fan of it personally

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but if they dont add it its whatever

marsh dragon
narrow lance
jaunty sand
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defib + medic bag my beloved

sacred eagle
marsh dragon
narrow lance
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Shoutout to the badass commanders I've had in conquest Large on Hainan Resort!!!

urban whale
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I think people who are snipers are doing their own thing also, I've got to say there are some very talented pilots on battlefield mate once they see they don't leave you alone

marsh dragon
rugged barn
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Also, tank turret rotation, BF3/BF4 or BF1/BFV style?

marsh dragon
narrow lance
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I feel if Battlefield embraced the grit and let people talk junk to each other again, everyone would be singing the praises regardless if the game played well or NOT

marsh dragon
jaunty sand
narrow lance
sacred eagle
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BF4's vehicles are unbeatable

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Actually so peak

rugged barn
narrow lance
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M1 Abrams felt like an actual war machine

marsh dragon
solar quarry
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Cursing on the forums, obscene clan graphics, etc. I want all of that back too.

rugged barn
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BFV's and BF1's makes the vehicles feel like actual tanks and is more immersive, while also maintainig its deadliness

sacred eagle
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no no I mean they are the best not actually unbeatable

narrow lance
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look all they gotta do is look for the "This TBH reactions" and get it done

jaunty sand
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i liked bf5s vehicle controlls and handling the best personally i feel like bf4s can feel jank sometimes

rugged barn
urban whale
rugged barn
marsh dragon
rugged barn
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BF's and BFV's are more balanced

narrow lance
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Hell, we've been in here making a ruckus all night and not once has someone from EA or DICE popped in to say "we're workin on it bro" clearly they don't actually care about moderation, why force it on the games.

solar quarry
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nb4barned4pyramid

rugged barn
narrow lance
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Lunber plays WoT or WT

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call it

rugged barn
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ANd also, i saw a video of a tank spinning its turret 360 degrees, took 10 seconds, make it 5 and we're set

narrow lance
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I got $5 on it

marsh dragon
jaunty sand
rugged barn
solar quarry
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oh lawd is someone called PTFO in here? that's what people message me when I claymore them in their base. Never figured out what it means.

urban whale
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If they can take all the best things we liked from old and current games into the new Battlefield game it'll be good I feel, I see many people who like the running animations on bfv or the atmosphere on BF1 but they loved the game play and grittiness of bf3/4 add what was good in each title and you'll make a classic BF

narrow lance
marsh dragon
rugged barn
jaunty sand
solar quarry
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World of Tankcraftโ„ข

rugged barn
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As i said it other day here, Semi auto shouldnt be faster than full auto

narrow lance
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World of Tanks is sooooo greedy, hey bro wanna buy a Type 62? come on, you know you want chinesium tank for $65 dollars LMAO

marsh dragon
solar quarry
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That reminds me of Soflam Superiorityโ„ข back in BF4

urban whale
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What I also liked about BFV was the animation damages you saw upon your plane or tank it wasn't just sparking it had bullet holes, the planes wings were all damaged and riddled with bullet holes

rugged barn
jaunty sand
solar quarry
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DICE tried to make a tanks only game mode and all the players just got out their soflams and javelins.

narrow lance
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You guys are chads, if you're down with sending me a Friend Req - do so, tell me what Region of the world you're in, I'd love to play BF4 with you guys sometime, I know bZ servers are still kicking

rugged barn
urban whale
solar quarry
narrow lance
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OH NO MAN, we gotta get you in the CULT of PC gamin

narrow lance
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Server Browser on PC kicks some serious butt

marsh dragon
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name it "OnlyTanks"

narrow lance
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o7 to all my console homies, you guys taking a beating from EA fr

solar quarry
urban whale
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If they can make infantry only modes why not make tanks only modes

jaunty sand
rugged barn
narrow lance
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WOW - that's super sick ButtCarcass - do you just sit on the stairs with a 320 IRL too?

solar quarry
urban whale
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Precisely don't allow getting out of a tank become a thing in tank only mode

narrow lance
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shame BF never got progress across all platforms

sacred eagle
narrow lance
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If they flub this one, expect the BF4 community to go rouge and freeboot new content lmfaooo

jaunty sand
urban whale
narrow lance
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someone already got a expanded version of BF4 alive, not sure what else happened with that

jaunty sand
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this game makes or breaks the franchise i think

narrow lance
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ditto

sacred eagle
sacred eagle
jaunty sand
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i wanna hope so but imma just be skeptical until i see gameplay or get to try labs

urban whale
sacred eagle
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David Sirland twitter is interesting, I read through his replies when making a video about battlefield 6 hype, some really good stuff coming from him

narrow lance
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I think they'll do a good job relative to what they can produce. The OG members of BF4's dev team aren't with the companies responsible anymore, so it could be fair to say, everything since has been missing them

sacred eagle
rugged barn
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Movement stuff i want to see in the new Battlefield -> Jumping higher than a wall (grab and pull yourself), lying on your back like BFV, rolling from dropping from tall places, being able to crouch sprint, sprint from lying prone and moving up (straight to normal run) AND NO OMNIMOVEMENT

jaunty sand
#

bf5 movement is peak

narrow lance
#

I'd literally be cool with them just doing BF4 controls and movement all over again, the tech in that game was SOOOOO stupid, you could teleport if you knew how to do it

urban whale
narrow lance
#

Tell em Butt!

rugged barn
#

im not fond of sliding, but it can be doable with heavy penatlies

jaunty sand
#

not being able to vault over somthing because its 3 cm too high is annoying lol

sacred eagle
rugged barn
jaunty sand
narrow lance
#

everyone remembers "perpetually crouched but somehow still sprinting" man right?

rugged barn
urban whale
#

I liked BFV movement to be honest the crouch sprint and the little slide you could do. And the animations when running into a wall your character would dodge the wall and swing their body round.

jaunty sand
#

crouch sprint should be in every game

narrow lance
#

I'mma keep it 99 and round up chief - a slide would get your ass SMOKED in basic training

rugged barn
#

OH and also, i loved the material penetration according to caliber in BFV

jaunty sand
narrow lance
#

if they saw you go to prone from a run and hit a slide, I know you'd keep a stark reminder of that experience in the form of a boot print on your skull lmfao

urban whale
rugged barn
#

and i miss the shots being able to penetrate more than one person in BF3/BF4

rugged barn
narrow lance
#

So MANY Collaterals

sacred eagle
#

Wish I could post pics here but tbh it's for the best because Sirlands entire twitter would have been archived in the channel

jaunty sand
rugged barn
narrow lance
#

I shared this earlier, but now that there are more people in the chat, my buddy made this clip about BF4 and I think it summed it all up perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOg5AmZejVQ

Give this a watch and tell me whatcha think, am I right or wrong lol

jaunty sand
#

i vvatch it

urban whale
#

I'm hoping some of you get into the labs and that's not me capping I've applied but for those who get in I hope you give your feedback about how you felt and what could be added.

narrow lance
halcyon sundial
#

just dont buy into the hype, name one release this company has done without crapping the bed in the last couple of years.

urban whale
#

If I get picked trust me I'll definitely be giving my feedback I'm not blunt but I can give very good constructive criticism. I can be blunt but coming across as such can be perceived as being a spoilt brat lmao ๐Ÿคฃ

rugged barn
#

Ubisoft is shitting the bed for a long time, for example

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Ea killed Dead Space 2 Remake

solar quarry
narrow lance
#

We'll carry your complaints forward bro! You'll be heard too!

jaunty sand
urban whale
#

I'm being very reserved but hopeful. I got let down by 2042 when I pre-ordered years ago and recently got let down with the Undisputed boxing game ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

halcyon sundial
#

i will believe a good bf game when it is in my hands and i am playing it

sacred eagle
urban whale
sacred eagle
#

be honest and give it to em straight, doc

finite mauve
rugged barn
sacred eagle
jaunty sand
finite mauve
#

Yeah

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But mainly 2042 is where they crapped

jaunty sand
#

true

finite mauve
#

Irs a decent game but not a good battle game really

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Its just decent now

halcyon sundial
urban whale
halcyon sundial
finite mauve
#

Whats your point

narrow lance
#

2042 lacks Identity, it doesn't know who it's competitor is. Is it CoD or is it Tom Clancy Ghost Recon 2 Future Warfighter ๐Ÿค”

halcyon sundial
finite mauve
#

2042 is worse then hardline

jaunty sand
finite mauve
rugged barn
sacred eagle
#

I love hardline ๐Ÿ˜”

halcyon sundial
rugged barn
#

And man, im revisiting BF3 voice lines and i miss those realistic, crued and funny voice lines

narrow lance
#

Oh woe is me never being able to play Hardline to form my own opinion - yes I'm serious I missed the boat and would love to partipate in that debate

finite mauve
urban whale
#

I think we need a mixer of old veterans and new players to test the game. Veterans will be good to explain old maps and game play. I remember playing BFBC2 the sound of the echo from the guns when firing within a building was deafening it was soo gritty I loved it

finite mauve
halcyon sundial
#

hardline and 2042 are not anywhere near bf1, bf3 and bf4

sacred eagle
finite mauve
#

Never said they were

halcyon sundial
finite mauve
#

But hardline is good

jaunty sand
#

hardline is a fun game. i think it wouldve done better if it was seperate from the battlefield franchise but its fun nontheless

rugged barn
finite mauve
#

Objectively speaking

narrow lance
#

"I HOPE IT HURTS!!!!"

finite mauve
#

Maybe hardline less but ar the core it actually felt like battlefield still

#

Classes

#

Maps

rugged barn
#

"That one made me shit my panties!"

narrow lance
#

"OKAY, I'M PICKING YOU UP NOW!"

halcyon sundial
rugged barn
finite mauve
jaunty sand
#

soldier interactions in battlefield via chatter is a big part of it imo

finite mauve
#

So what's your point?

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๐Ÿ˜

urban whale
finite mauve
#

Most battlefields have had rough launch

#

There's nothing new G

rugged barn
#

"Oh that one left my balls flap in the wind!"

halcyon sundial
urban whale
finite mauve
#

Objectively speaking

narrow lance
#

I think I maintain the idea that BF3 was goated but BF4 allowed the community to have a "renaissance" with the franchise more or less. I think a lot of folks still see BF4 as a great game and don't think it's aged as much as BF3 has. Not to discount BF3 in any way I just think BF4 still stands as a more "mainstream" title between the 2 in 2025

halcyon sundial
jaunty sand
#

bf4s console servers are also still up so theres that

narrow lance
#

and the self-hosters on PC are still super strong

halcyon sundial
rugged barn
finite mauve
jaunty sand
#

bf5 got shafted both by the playerbase and devs imo

finite mauve
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

rugged barn
#

takes roughly 3 - 4 shots for you to die regardless of gun in general

urban whale
#

2042 is fun don't get me wrong but if you ever want a laugh go and watch the old videos on YouTube about the launch and cheesy lines that the characters used to say. It made me want to stick a hot burning rod down my ears

rugged barn
#

but SMG's? Make it a bit more

narrow lance
#

Q to Spot, I think BF1 was more lackluster than BFV, but that's also coming from a guy with only 100 hours in each game, thousands in BF4 though

halcyon sundial
jaunty sand
#

out of the 3 bf1 is my least favorite but i do still really like bf1

narrow lance
#

Like WW1 was mostly fought with shotguns and rifles, what is a Drum fed SMG doin here lmao

finite mauve
narrow lance
#

I loved the calvery in BF1

halcyon sundial
#

they constantly messed with ttk in bfv constantly which was annoying. every patch it was like a diff game, annoying.

finite mauve
#

We aren't talking about the past though

halcyon sundial
finite mauve
#

Objectively V is good

finite mauve
halcyon sundial
finite mauve
#

But there's a enough

jaunty sand
urban whale
halcyon sundial
rugged barn
finite mauve
#

They dropped content got 4 and hardline years ago whats your point

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๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€

halcyon sundial
rugged barn
finite mauve
#

Womp womp

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Game is still good

#

Objectively

solar nexus
rugged barn
narrow lance
sacred eagle
jaunty sand
#

eastern front update being torn away in order to make 2042 :(((((((

halcyon sundial
#

you wont as you are nostalgia glasses on

finite mauve
#

The game is good as of now

narrow lance
#

also, I expected more trenches in BF1, I was kinda sad it wasn't like a giant field to cross and die over like the Maginot Line

finite mauve
halcyon sundial
solar nexus
#

People used to say Hardline is the worst battlefield. Then bf5 came and some people said the same thing. Then we got BF2042

finite mauve
jaunty sand
finite mauve
#

But the game to its core is a good game

narrow lance
#

Agree, I think it's cyclical

halcyon sundial
#

bfv is not a bad game, it is ok. its potential was ruined by incompetence.

finite mauve
#

Guess we can agree to disagree

narrow lance
jaunty sand
rugged barn
jaunty sand
solar nexus
rugged barn
halcyon sundial
#

bfv needed way more content and for the games balancing patching team to calm the hell down. the game was beautiful on pacific drop. all my buddies were on everyday bumping bfv then death patch ended that, everyone quit, servers emptied like mad.

sacred eagle
urban whale
finite mauve
narrow lance
#

I still respect it as an entry though, it's a different paradigm of BF combat, just like how I'm not a fan of Skyrim in all honesty, I prefered FONV lmao

sacred eagle
#

Net code on launch ๐Ÿคฎ

finite mauve
#

Lol

solar nexus
halcyon sundial
#

bf launch always a disaster.

jaunty sand
rugged barn
sacred eagle
#

I have hope that having a CTE like labs before the actual launch of the game is going to be so helpful, after all it's what saved 4

finite mauve
#

Not a battlefield game locking your console

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๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ™

rugged barn
#

it had to be restarted

jaunty sand
#

full boxed by c

narrow lance
#

lots of cool discussion goin on over here

urban whale
rugged barn
#

it was funny because Shanghai didnt happen that and it was a more demanding map

halcyon sundial
#

next bf better have proper server browser

rugged barn
narrow lance
#

I'd like to have the option to host my own servers like BF3/4

#

that way we can keep playing it like BF4

#

look if I have to wait decades for a good release, they better let me host my own

halcyon sundial
#

no more of this portal rubbish

urban whale
#

I think they will add everything into the new game scoreboard server browser etc they can't afford to not add things like that into the new game.

jaunty sand
sacred eagle
#

Hoping they do it justice this time around tho

narrow lance
#

I would have liked Portal more IF it had the actual game and all the features rolled into it, not just a gun repasting and skin translation

halcyon sundial
jaunty sand
#

portal needed more content ]

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RU team didnt even have their own transport heli ffs

narrow lance
#

Portal works well as it is, but the fuckin UI is what makes it so grating, feels like Tom Clancy's Warfighter 2 game from like 2008, all the damn BLUE lmao

sacred eagle
rugged barn
urban whale
#

I like the discussions in here agreements and disagreements shows people care about the franchise ๐Ÿซก

narrow lance
#

agree

halcyon sundial
solar quarry
#

Portal was a great idea, barely executed and then forgotten. The term I prefer is "survived abortion"

narrow lance
#

I hate how they try to force you into the Portal with the guns

#

I just wanted the AKS-74U because it's the only AK in the battlefield franchise with some WOOD

rugged barn
solar quarry
jaunty sand
#

does bf4 rpk count

sacred eagle
#

Can't wait for conquest large banzore in bf6

narrow lance
#

That RPK fuccs and knows what seggs is

jaunty sand
#

trve

narrow lance
#

Banzore kicks ass, I'm glad I'm a member with them

rugged barn
#

Its a literal full auto SVD

narrow lance
#

Okay Lunber, listen buddy, you gotta have a bipod and patience, we're not the same, I'm a mag fed hate spitter, you're a box fed emplacement, know your position, play your part as Biggie would say

jaunty sand
#

i dont like using LMGs cos their non bipod accuracy is shit

rugged barn
#

Dont show your face on my secured hallway, or you'll...FUCK I GOTTA RELOAD

narrow lance
#

Thanks to the discussion here this evening - I'll be singlehandledly reviving bZ Server #5 HC TDM

rugged barn
narrow lance
#

[10 minutes later] Lunber: FIRE THE BOX MAG AT THEM

rugged barn
#

still reloading

sacred eagle
#

Give us to option to use the box mag as melee while reloading

rugged barn
#

OH OH

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if we reload with at least one in the chamber, allow us to FIRE it while reloading

narrow lance
#

Give me the option to self-harm myself so they can't kill me while I'm reloading

#

we die with HONOR in this MF

rugged barn
#

but yeah, many shooters uses this nowadays

narrow lance
#

the MF in question [Operation Locker HC TDM stairwell near the scanners]

rugged barn
#

and for sound design? USE THE REAL SOUNDS FROM WEAPONS like BF3

narrow lance
#

FAXXXXXX

#

the guns sound so GOOD in BF3

jaunty sand
#

gameboy?

rugged barn
#

Ready or Not and Ground Branch

sacred eagle
jaunty sand
#

o

rugged barn
#

Ready or Not = Modern Swat
Ground Branch = Modern Rainbow Six

narrow lance
rugged barn
#

these are 2 great shooters i recommend

#

RoN is great also for solo

narrow lance
#

Lunber be spittin over here

rugged barn
#

and still reloading

narrow lance
#

I like Ground Branch but man they need to give me some new guns already

sacred eagle
#

Idk I could never get into RoN solo

rugged barn
#

not only that, but also storytelling for the missions

sacred eagle
#

Love it with friends but not alone

rugged barn
#

RoN is awesome for the environmental + Briefing in missions

narrow lance
#

Lunber, are you MANUFACTURING THE BOX MAG AND BULLETS????? Come on man, I don't know whose dumber, you or the guy still standing at the end of the hallway NOT SHOOTING AT YOU

rugged barn
#

thank you for waiting, soldier!

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Im still reloading

narrow lance
#

Fires 2 rounds panic reloads the PKP again

sacred eagle
#

It's okay man I'll cover us with my airburst ๐Ÿ˜

rugged barn
#

reloads finishes

#

AWESOME now i ca- dead by sniper from the other side of the map

narrow lance
#

Lunber has been putting 5.56 in his PKP

#

explosive or smoke Raccoon?

rugged barn
#

i want to see older guns like XM8

sacred eagle
#

If it ain't the most lethal I ain't taking it

rugged barn
#

And also, make the 6.5 mm guns there too

rugged barn
sacred eagle
#

nooo......

narrow lance
#

well that was a lost cause, if you had smoke we could have covered Lunber while he singlehandedly rebuilds the USSR to keep up with his PKP's ammunition costs

narrow lance
#

I'm over here running the PP2K and I'm out of ammo myself. My MBT is empty and that Menu 7 MRE is calling my name

narrow lance
rugged barn
#

with Charlie Sheen

#

That parodies, Top Gun

#

One of the scenes i think he picks up an M60 to shoot someone AND WASTES ALL HIS AMMO, missing all shots and making the person outline on the wall behind him

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that's me

narrow lance
#

I haven't seen that, but will be looking for that because a parody of Top Gun is always up my alley, gives me BF Friends vibes

sacred eagle
#

BF6 holy hand grenade map easter egg?

narrow lance
#

That's rich!

rugged barn
#

Top Gun, Platoon and some others

rugged barn
narrow lance
#

Leave it to an M60 to be uncontrollable and leave someone unharmed

#

[Points at Gold Deposit] We're rich

sacred eagle
#

it's payday fellas

narrow lance
#

time to buy more 2042 cosmetics

rugged barn
narrow lance
#

[San Andreas Respect + Audio Cue]

rugged barn
#

now my time to crash, almost 4 am here

#

nighty

sacred eagle
#

I need to play drg

sacred eagle
narrow lance
#

see ya buddies, it's almost 2 over here, I'll be back, but next time, I'm bringing my SUPER positive attitude about Battlefield

#

you guys aren't ready for me to get all sappy about how good BF4 was for me as a person, keeping me out of trouble IRL lmaooooo

sacred eagle
#

nighty night brainwav

#

sleep well buddy

simple cipher
#

Based opinion but NATO service rifle in BF 2025 should be AK-308

alpine badge
#

I know I have a nack for Kalashnikovs but why?

humble plume
#

๐Ÿซƒ

solar quarry
solar quarry
finite mauve
#

The shotgun fires full auto and has an anti recoil mitigation system in it, it's a deadly ass gun๐Ÿ˜ญ

sacred eagle
#

guys I just hope jeep stuff feels good in 6

finite mauve
#

Yeah

#

I love jeeps in battlefield 4

#

They go boing

sacred eagle
#

I'll die a happy man if I can just be called 1 more slur by a tank main before I pass

finite mauve
#

"Admin check Ravic"

#

Anyone know the battlefield youtuber Ravic?

granite wyvern
nocturne jackal
#

Why is it so fun to piss off pilots ๐Ÿ˜ญ

solar quarry
solar quarry
solar quarry
marsh dragon
#

how are you doing today guys

flint rivet
#

guys

#

really

#

as a brazilian gamer

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fps gaming is a huge thing here

#

u guys can see on Counter Strike, valorant.... etc

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create a map on brazil, but not with favelas... i know the stereotypes and etc..

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etc

#

like a city, with a huge buildings or everthing cityy here, but sao paulo is the fist biggest city of thesouthern hemisphere... and hird biggest city in the world

desert wedge
#

anyone here that works for DICE that can shed some light as to why nearly ALL North American BF4 servers are constantly dumping players?

flint rivet
#

really

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come to brasil (with s) like brazilians says

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its a continental country

#

u guys gonna like it

#

i play battlefield since 2002,

#

and my favorite is bf2

#

i can't belive how realistic these grafics are

#

in that time

#

two weeks a go

#

a buy a new pc

#

3060

#

i9 10ยบ generation

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only to play your games

#

i just say

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theres is your moment

#

its time

#

i buy bf5 in november, 2018, i remember that

#

with my 1050ti

#

i just buy my old pc to that

#

so, affectionately, think about us

#

french guiana... i know

#

but is not brazil

#

if u guys need something

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call me

#

โค๏ธ

#

so , ty dice and etc to make my fav game

#

my nickname on battlefield is "daydinmga"

#

daydin nickname and mga (maringรก) as a city i born and raised!

#

love u gys

#

โค๏ธ

solar quarry
#

hale yeah we have a Brazilian in here now. I already feel the lag. Just giving you shit - welcome to the thread!

solar quarry
flint rivet
solar quarry
#

It's ok let me explain. I was in US until two years ago. now i'm outta region in southeast asia. So I'm gonna make lag too. Now I know why brazilians come to play with US. They just want to be on server with a lot of people.

flint rivet
#

but

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we have brazilians/south america servers

#

i just saying about representation

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u know

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brazil loves fps gamings

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in counter strike is one of the best country of the world

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valorant too

#

but i enjoy play these games

#

but is not my vibe

#

u know

#

i love battlelfield

flint rivet
#

not to mention the counter strike

#

im going to slleep

#

is like 7am here

#

hugs and stay with God

#

โค๏ธ

solar quarry
#

Ok it's like 5pm here but I understand. See you later mater.

flint rivet
#

we have SA servers

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just u know

#

have a nice day dude

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or likewe say in brazil

#

bom final de semana,

minor leaf
#

When are the playtests starting?

flint rivet
#

as a brazilian

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I just have to wait

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till there

#

i play LoL

#

;~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

minor leaf
flint rivet
#

course not

#

just america and EU

#

but imagine a map with a city and amazon

#

dude

#

i want to believe

minor leaf
#

I want city map with lot of destruction

#

๐Ÿ˜„

flint rivet
#

imagine Marita but a brazilian version

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a city

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and the jungle

solar quarry
#

๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

#

๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท

flint rivet
solar quarry
#

woop woop

#

if both of us joined a US server everyone would be walking on the air when they jump.

solar quarry
granite wyvern
solar quarry
#

April 20 at 6:90pm

minor leaf
#

I only get "Lost connection" in bf4 servers, more people with this problem?

lapis timber
#

yeah

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i've seen post that there are DDoS attacks on hosting companies

#

at that they stop at 14:00 UTC+1

minor leaf
#

What a mfkers

solar quarry
#

why not DDOS something that has a real impact on assholes rather than us?

carmine grail
#

What's ddos

marsh lichen
#

Did you guys get an confirmation email yet?

violet shore
#

it kickcs me out of servers in bf4 too

#

kicks*

lapis timber
#

hackers can infect many computers and then force them to send request to specified ip adress

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server cant serve that many requests and dies

#

putting that in simple words

#

1000 people entering small shop basically

violet shore
#

guys is the bf4 problem fixed?

sly sleet
#

no

violet shore
#

oh man

shy yacht
#

Damn I went to bed hoping 4 would be ok when I woke up

solar quarry
lapis timber
#

Bf4 servers status?

#

Still dying?

marsh lichen
wispy mango
#

bf4 unplayable today

#

sunday ruined

quasi dirge
#

anyone want to do the phantom elevator easter egg? I have the hanger 21 dog tag (battlefield 4 btw)

digital ravine
#

i need help for BF4 "Connection to the server has been lost. Please check your internet connection or try again later."

stiff forum
#

Im a newbie in battlefield and started playing battlefield 5. Is it just me to get headache after playing... I've never had this before playing apex legends and delta force what's the problem My fov is 70 and I got the motion blur off

#

got so dizzy..

wispy mango
lapis timber
#

didnt check

twilit loom
#

HOW CAN I CEATE A SERVER

#

how can i rent a server in BF1

wispy mango
carmine grail
#

Skibidi

digital orbit
#

Racist air to air missile

marsh lichen
#

Hey, chillax

digital orbit
#

Good job failing then

#

Youre just a glorified bottle rocket with trust issues

#

Ohh my mistake, I'm talking to a peacekeeper missile.

You see heat, but stay away from it.

#

Go chase a commercial flight, probably the only thing you could actually penetrate

#

The heck is sexual about air combat

#

I give up, you're too dense to realise I've been treating you like an actual missile.

lapis timber
#

once again

digital orbit
#

That's why you say racist things without regard,I understand that

full holly
#

Joins a a discord server, immediately see people fighting

#

Never dissapoints

wispy mango
#

I think it stopped now, no dc so far

digital orbit
#

Im not arguing, he/she doesn't understand what i was saying

frozen rune
#

any news about that DDoS attack ? still ongoing ?

shy yacht
#

for some reason

#

the server blew up bc of Labs

#

lack of foresight

fickle depot
#

and they will ban ya

#

seen many from day 1

twilit loom
#

gays please i need help

#

how can i rent a server on BF1 for 180 days?

shy yacht
#

weird, nothing on google, maybe u have do it through the game

#

is 3 fucked or is it just 4

marsh lichen
narrow lance
#

MMD, hey buddy!

What I said about paid vs free dlc is mostly a dig on how free dlc in games like Cod BO6 is just a sticker pack, occasionally they'll drop a gun but then balance it out of existence ๐Ÿ˜‚

I found that paid DLC was usually of higher quality, like FONVs DLCs imo are some of the best DLCs to ever add extra content and were very "valuerific"

#

Hope you're doing well today folks, we gotta figure out that DDOS shit boys

#

I got all my BF4 DLCs from Premium edition, so I think that was really valuerific for the content provided

tropic folio
#

paid dlc packs are great until you can't play any of the maps because nobody else bought them

#

the amount of content we got back then was great, but that era is over and for good reason

digital orbit
#

Anyone remember bf2142

#

Idk how many actually paid for its expansion

#

But it was def a minority

shy yacht
#

thats the point

#

in a multiplayer game u want all the actual gameplay content to be free updates

#

i dont remember the last time i played on a dlc map in bf4

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just bc its easier to get servers running with vanilla maps

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even when it was popular, u had 2 kinds of servers, dlc or vanilla and a rare few with everything

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its fine for something like New Vegas, it makes sense to sell dlc

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the model is outdated for multiplayer games

tropic folio
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yep, it's just not good for the game

shy yacht
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same reason most mp games go free to play, buy to play just wont cut it anymore unless ur games already popular, eg COD and BF

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ahh well, at least 3 is still stable atm

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man i miss the aftermath dlc for 3

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that and close quarters were incredible

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actually all the bf3 dlc was amazing

rugged barn
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Look at Multiversus and the myriad of f2p games in the sea of f2p games

errant matrix
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Is BF4 the only game effected by ddosing

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Its saturated and players are fed up with the unecessary stupidity and monetization it entails

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market is saturated

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yes theres probably other factors but its an important one

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It has some f2p monetization but it has no FOMO

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Can you join the pre alpha battlefield?

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And you can get everything in the game after you buy it just by playing it

tropic folio
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helldivers is unique enough that it can afford to be pay to play

shy yacht
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most new pvp shooters that aren't f2p die after a few months

shy yacht
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not even comp shooters, just multiplayer pvp

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if u make a pvp game u want the barrier to entry to be zero at this point

tropic folio
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concord is a recent example, even ignoring all the design problems it was never going to survive with a $40 price tag

shy yacht
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was it really $40 lol

tropic folio
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there are better and more well supported games that people can play without spending a cent

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yeah i think so

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hi guys any one can help me
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shy yacht
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i watched gameplay footage and it looked like destiny 2 pvp, it had some ex Bungie devs w orking on it

tropic folio
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lol this guy predicted it

shy yacht
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they were so confident

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the Secret Level episode and everything

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and its not even playable anymore bc of stupid central server stuff right

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f2p is pretty much the only way to go unless you have an established franchise and a big community

tropic folio
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people will look back at these decades in gaming and weep

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absurd amounts of games renderer unplayable for no reason

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imagine if books set themselves on fire bc they werent selling enough copies or went out of print

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or publishers came knocking on your door to take them away from you

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cod hasn't been good for 5 years and battlefield just had one of the biggest fumbles of the decade

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people play because it's what they know

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ideally games would be good and not treat players like wallets that have to be emptied, but it is what it is

rugged barn
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They're not making good entertainment, they're making good products

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And "line must go up" mentality is what is killing everything in the industry

tropic folio
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yep

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veilguard underperformed because it didn't have enough live service elements

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not because they'd have made the game better, but because they'd have made more money

rugged barn