battlefield-legacy-titles

[old marten]

Yeeeaaah boi, not using all of your c4 on one tank was doope

[tardy turret]

Speaking of tanks, I wonder how they'll play that route. Scary tanks or just "respect its space"

[woeful inlet]

It makes perfect sense cmon

[alpine badge]

true

[woeful inlet]

This guy just wants cod with bigger maps lmao

[old marten]

Keeps the snipers off of rooftops

[woeful inlet]

Its still an arcade shooter, but with a tactical lean

[latent moat]

You're making assumptions about what level of suppression a soldier would have to take before the effect kicks in. It can be tweaked to a level that would make it consistent with the scenarios described

[tropic folio]

i don't see how anyone can compensate against increased bullet spread other than by just shooting more

[woeful inlet]

Its what I just said it was cmon lol. And thats def how the casual audience sees it

[woeful inlet]

I don't agree with bullet spread. I'm speaking on aim sway

[halcyon sundial]

i see this place is active a lot more again. people buying into the hype?

[old marten]

Actually, you could use mortars to displace people from heavily defended positions.

[sacred eagle]

i don't agree with changing accuracy or spread but i think sway is fine

[sacred eagle]

lots of discussions about mechanics we'd like to see in the next battlefield

[woeful inlet]

If we're talking about staying true the identity of the game, yes casual perception is a huge component of what that identity is

[agile stratus]

Things like that are ok. But I "still" (maybe call me classic or even old, Im ok with that) have the opinion that everyone should have the same options as a basis. For example: In the older Battlefield titles you had 3 weapons per class, but an insane amount of gadgets that you had to earn by playing and unlocking it (can be challenges, can be rank). So the higher your rank was, you were able to use these things to progress on objectives and maps. However, there you were forced to really play by skill and with your team as everyone had the same weapons and no adjustments possible (of course, we are talking about 15+ years of how old these games were). That created awesome teamplay and vehicles had a totally different meaning due to that.

[spring widget]

allow more classes to have rpg's thanks

[halcyon sundial]

it is a waste of time they wont read anything here lol

[sacred eagle]

good to gather our thoughts for feedback though imo

[tropic folio]

in that case i don't find it as egregious, aim sway when suppressed could work if done carefully

[latent moat]

It's simply not. BF incorporates a complex physics system, terrain deformation, bullet drop physics, bullet spread, gravity, complex recoil and recovery systems, and more. There's nothing among that that suggest Arcade game. Go look at steam under the arcade category and tell me if you see BF there. I'll wait

[wary sigil]

Why has this community gaslit itself into thinking battlefield is basically arma at this point

[woeful inlet]

Yea bullet spread would be a bad mechanic

[sacred eagle]

bf4 is what i'd like personally, it feels balanced

[sterile jolt]

I hope next BF has an overpowered slide that grants you 40 meter travel distance in 3 seconds

[halcyon sundial]

bf is not an arcade shooter lol. it is not milsim either.

[wary sigil]

No one sees battlefield as tactical

[halcyon sundial]

people need to learn what the word arcade means lol

kids using words they dont understand

[woeful inlet]

Yea, agreed. But aesthetic realism means for the most part if the average person does something, it should respond like they expect it to

[kindred sail]

quake 3 arena is what you're looking for with rocket jumps 😂

[wary sigil]

Ight

[woeful inlet]

If I throw a flashbang, you should be seriously concussed. If I spray an LMG at you, you shouldn't just be able to pop up and headshot me

At least without a lot of skill

[wary sigil]

Should players be punished for playing aggresive and moving around the map

[agile stratus]

Well.. half half. If you have a good squad, you can change the whole situation 😉 There used to be Battlefield Clans and even Clan fights where positioning and "tactics" mattered

[sterile jolt]

Suppression shouldn’t effect spread imo

[wary sigil]

Serious question

[tropic folio]

there is absolutely no shot you're trying to argue battlefield isn't an arcade shooter

battlefield is closer to cod than it is to any milsim

[alpine badge]

that depends

[agile stratus]

It shouldnt be that easy, but by good defense you get punished by getting shot ;D

[woeful inlet]

Its an arcade shooter but still a sim lite imo

[halcyon sundial]

bf is not an arcade shooter. pleaser learn the words you are using. bf is not a milsim either.

[sterile jolt]

CoD has bullet drop, it’s a milisim

[wary sigil]

On what

[halcyon sundial]

its nowhere near arcade either

[old marten]

I mean that's just bad company 2

[agile stratus]

Yes, but still hundrets of miles away from CoD

[tropic folio]

it's absolutely an arcade shooter, having realistic features doesn't stop that

[halcyon sundial]

i would say it is somewhere near the middle

[latent moat]

You're not acting in good faith. I've given you two excellent examples of what arcade games are with Google images and even Steam category. You've cravenly failed to address either of them. Additionally I've taken a extremely reasonable position which is that BF is not an arcade shooter but neither is it a mil sim. I haven't even claimed it's right in the middle of those two. It's likely close to the arcade side of things if put on a scale but it is decidely and irrefutably not an arcade game by any reasonable standard of the word

[woeful inlet]

Closer, but it's attempt is to capture a realistic experience while retaining the fun of the arcade gameplay loop

Suppression adds to a realistic experience

[sterile jolt]

I dislike having to unlock gadgets

[agile stratus]

Almost, bad company 2 had way more weapons and less gadgets. However the vehicle gameplay was balanced pretty well

[old marten]

Should players be punished for playing slow and methodically?

[tropic folio]

nice argument

[woeful inlet]

My point exactly. Its perceived as a tactical shooter. Players expect it to behave as a tactical shooter

[wary sigil]

Here’s the thing that is flat out impossible by design

[agile stratus]

Can you explain why? Then you rank in-game "matters"

[halcyon sundial]

counter it then sport

[woeful inlet]

Aim sway is good

Because it offers a close enough experience for people to be satisfied lol

[old marten]

It isn't and you know this

[tropic folio]

right over your head

[terse path]

battlefield is an arcade shooter

[halcyon sundial]

are battlefield and time crisis similar games?

answer

[woeful inlet]

Like I said, people just want a realistic immersive experience. Or at least their idea of realism. Thats what battlefield offers. Semi-tactical arcade shooter

[wary sigil]

You can have the fastest most agile movement, but a player holding a corner will ALWAYS have the advantage over the fast player entering the room, the only way to punish slower players would be to just… smite them for standing still which isnt good gameplay design either

[woeful inlet]

Alright nvm lmaoooooooooooooooo

[tropic folio]

i don't argue after ad hominems, try someone else 👍

[sterile jolt]

Because it limits creativity, it's fake progression. Rank should give me skins and player cards etc. Not gadgets. I dislike having to unlock gadgets or weapons with rank. I want to be able to use all weapons from the start and all gadgets from the start. Rank can give me skins or player cards instead. I'm fine with attachment grind though. The more I use a weapon the more attachments it should have.

[woeful inlet]

Another option would be to negate their cover

[latent moat]

Oh I haven't been talking about mechanics? I didn't list a series of mechanics earlier? You have a horrible problem with the truth. But here, search for the sym data browser and then find BF4 1 or V on there and look at the files there. Does anything there look remotely arcade like? I don't think you grasp how insulting what you're saying is to the developers. If it were just an arcade game they wouldn't have the litany of issues they have and they'd be able to pump the games out in months rather than years

[wary sigil]

And have a superflat map

[halcyon sundial]

is battlefield a similar game to time crisis? answer the question.

[woeful inlet]

Also yea you shouldn't just be sprinting around corners, getting killed for doing that makes sense lol

[wary sigil]

So i ask you

Should movement options be restricted

[old marten]

We're talking about battlefield. Run in there with a vehicle and they lose. If they're using a vehicle to play slow they lose to aggressive anti vehicle gadgets. Literally most things are countered by an aggressive helicopter

[terse path]

Y'all excited for the new Battlefield?

[woeful inlet]

No just blow it up lol

[woeful inlet]

It should work as a slightly enhanced version of what you can do irl

[latent moat]

Only if robodog returns

[halcyon sundial]

the reason these people calling battlefield an arcade shooter wont answer the time crisis question is they know they get caught up using arcade shooter term wrong lol. gotta love kids thinking they know it all.

[woeful inlet]

No cod movement, but short slides to get behind cover are fine

Sliding should never work as an offensive action: as in sliding towards an enemy shooting at you

[wary sigil]

What do we understand by cod movement

[old marten]

Bf isn't an arcade shooter nor is it a milsim

[sterile jolt]

BF isn't arcade, C4s jeep into enemy spawn

[terse path]

I'm fired up, especially since BF 2042 shite the bed

[old marten]

Don't know why it has to fit in either of those boxes

[halcyon sundial]

exactly

[woeful inlet]

Mainly the sliding and zippyness of it all

[sterile jolt]

BF isn't arcade, rendezooks a jet

[halcyon sundial]

coz it dont fit arcade shooter at all

[woeful inlet]

Its both arcade and tactical

[halcyon sundial]

play time crisis quickly to learn what an arcade shooter is kids

[wary sigil]

What about games like mw19 and mw22

[woeful inlet]

Still cod movement, very snappy

Mw22 def has sliding lol

[old marten]

Bf needs the killzone 2 movement

[wary sigil]

Alright now you lost me

mw22 def isnt as fast

But wait

[woeful inlet]

Cod games have cod movement is a crazy statement? lol

[wary sigil]

Are we calling snappy movement a bad thing?

[woeful inlet]

For battlefield yes

[wary sigil]

Are you serious?

[woeful inlet]

I shouldn't be able to handle a lmg like its nothing

I shouldn't be able to zip around the map like its nothing

[tropic folio]

launches a tank into a helicopter

[old marten]

Battlefield isn't really know for snappy cod movement tbh they got crouch running though

[woeful inlet]

I shouldn't be able to slide into a room and melt you with an smg, or dive into a room with a shotgun

[halcyon sundial]

have you played time crisis?

[woeful inlet]

Tacsprint is cool tho

[agile stratus]

I do not agree. There should be mechanics to unlock certain gadgets if you play very well with your team or your squad. Of course Skins and cards are ok, but having all gadgets from the beginning is no progression for me personally. As mentioned, it makes your rank "matter" and not the appearance that actually I don't care about. Thus grinding should be about these gadgets. Of course not to heavily but to make you play the game and maybe strengthen teamplay and taking care of your team/squad.

[latent moat]

Is arma not in the milsimcat because you can do stupid stuff in it?

[wary sigil]

I do not agree at all ngl

[woeful inlet]

Well its all opinion based, I like the grind and unlocking new weapons as I go on

[wary sigil]

so the strat would be to stay in the back of the spawn behind cover

[halcyon sundial]

because time crisis is an arcade shooter. the correct use of the term arcade shooter applies to that game not bf

[woeful inlet]

Also forces me to play with weapons I wouldn't normally use and adapt

[sterile jolt]

BF3 is super snappy

You hit the button and you do what it does

[agile stratus]

They should be "limited" to not have people sliding around and to slower the overall gameplay to not have CoD feelings in the end

[halcyon sundial]

because you are too young to know the terms. still time to educate yourselves.

[wary sigil]

So movement should be unresponsive and stance changing should be slow and punishing

[woeful inlet]

No it would be to move methodically. If you know someone's in a room flash it, enter carefully, or use the destruction mechanic

[old marten]

Battlefield is more like a mil themed sandbox than it is an arcade shooter

[woeful inlet]

Fair

[sterile jolt]

I will be rank 100 before I hit 100th hour anyways, it's just needless grind imo. I don't want to be level 5 recon in order to unlock spawn beacon or TUGS

[wary sigil]

I think movement needs to be agile rather than super fast

[sterile jolt]

Older BF games played fine without needless gadget grind

[halcyon sundial]

even the modern use of arcade dont fit bf. bf has too much complexity to fit in that term but it doesnt have enough complexity to fit in milsim either.

[old marten]

Not really, switch from sprinting forward to backing up takes a second. Same with rounding a corner

[woeful inlet]

Kind of, again sliding and diving should be defensive rather than offensive

[wary sigil]

…that’s how it is in games like mw2 tho

[halcyon sundial]

it is an arcade shooter though, that is a tag that fits it. yes it is a light gun shooter however also an arcade shooter lol.

[woeful inlet]

Ok lol

[wary sigil]

mw3… well no, sliding in that game is entirely offensive

[woeful inlet]

I think it shouldn't be

[sullen oar]

💩

[halcyon sundial]

nah both fit

[woeful inlet]

You shouldn't slide at a person shooting at you lol

[solid hinge]

Hello

[old marten]

game isn't like cod

"I'M BEING PUNISHED!!!"

[woeful inlet]

Why should it? It doesn't make sense and breaks immersion

[sterile jolt]

It feels like 2042 or V honestly, but it's been a while since I played it

[halcyon sundial]

anyways done arguing with children. stay in school kids.

[woeful inlet]

Right lol

[wary sigil]

^

[solemn epoch]

i don't like sliding in shooters tbh, it feels dumb

[old marten]

I don't know if it was just the controllers or what. But older games definitely have a weird deadzone when it comes to switching up directions

[agile stratus]

Thats why I said: Unlocking should be bound to certain squad-points or challenges, not level.

[solemn epoch]

i get you may slide or jump into prone to get cover, not to run faster and get behind corners for a kill

[woeful inlet]

Yea you shouldn't be sliding 24/7 tho lol thats the thing. Maybe a movement penalty after just sliding or something, like it takes a huge chunk out of your stamina

[woeful inlet]

Agreed

[wary sigil]

Idk, bf4 movement with diving and a slide (aswell as mantling over objects) would be spot on for me ngl

[sterile jolt]

It's because of screen shake imo, makes people think BF3 or 4 were slower than what they were

[solemn epoch]

this is not a military sim but it shouldn't be apex or cod either

[rough idol]

Bfv movement was fine

[woeful inlet]

I think that would ruin a lot of the feel and appeal of the game

[sterile jolt]

They were slower in some aspects but not in sprint to fire

[latent moat]

Chat Gpt: "The recent entries in the Battlefield series are best described as somewhere in between arcade shooters and mil-sim games, but they lean more toward arcade-style realism rather than full military simulation (mil-sim)."

[woeful inlet]

Gpt lol

[latent moat]

Chat gpt: Final Verdict:

The Battlefield series is best described as a "tactical arcade shooter" or a "casual mil-sim"—offering a mix of realism and accessible action. If you want more arcade-style gameplay, Call of Duty is a better fit, while Arma or Squad are for hardcore mil-sim fans.

[woeful inlet]

Well we just have to disagree on this

[old marten]

Couldn't exactly juke someone's aim though. It was either they caught you or you didn't fire first

[wary sigil]

Just gotta see how the next bf turns out

[sterile jolt]

MWII was more milisim than 2042

[wary sigil]

thing is

[alpine badge]

Hope they remove the 12g frags

[woeful inlet]

Ahhh might be right lmao

[agile stratus]

I mostly remember that you had to unlock your gadgets until Battlefield 4 or 1? And as mentioned. It should not be things where you need heavy grind for. But a certain "behavior" in-game, teamplay and time played on the battlefield

[solemn epoch]

2042 was prob the further we ever got from a realistic arcade shooter xD

[woeful inlet]

I think if its ridiculous to think about an action person doing, it prob shouldn't be in the game

[sterile jolt]

I mean BF2 or 2142, you had most of the stuff unlocked from the start

[old marten]

Bf4 had those shitty cases you had to open

[mild prawn]

all the AI currently sucks they all look at me like im a tree and walk away ask the weather and it shows me a place in south america lol

[wary sigil]

Im more concerned that it might be quite a while until Bf6 comes out and until then… the mp fps space is rough lol

[woeful inlet]

Lmaoo come on

[solemn epoch]

quickly peeking =/= slide through corners

it's cheesy and dumb

[woeful inlet]

Yea lol

[old marten]

I think they just want to corner jump people

[wary sigil]

slower, mwII hardly fits as milsim

It has milsim influence for sure

[mild prawn]

bf3/bf4 and bf1 together would have been a great game but no lets do bf5 that pos

[old marten]

Historically, I'm bf, you would just get rid of the corner in question

[solemn epoch]

we couldn't even peek corners fast and im ok with that, if you played certain fps by ubisoft you'd know how quickly it turns dumb when you can spam leaning left and right

[woeful inlet]

This isn't really a reaction based game like cod is tho

[mild prawn]

oh no the reaction stuff is diff i see it its takes a while for my eyes to connect to my hands also every game i play stutters when i ads so theres that

[old marten]

They could bring back the leaning mechanic in bf4

[agile stratus]

Yes, we're coming closer 😉 A mixture is key 👍

[sterile jolt]

You could

[solemn epoch]

nah you're moving very fast past an enemy making your hitbox smaller because you're crouching... it's really dumb

[junior torrent]

I genuinely use that often

[sterile jolt]

You could jumpshot corners in 3 and 4

[old marten]

Same. Super handy against snipers

[solemn epoch]

nah only when standing near a corner, you can't press 2 keys to lean left/right

[woeful inlet]

You ever see someone slide into a hallway in cqb video lmao

[junior torrent]

Doesn't always work against fast pace enemies...

[old marten]

You could get rid of 90% of corners in bf3-4

[sterile jolt]

You can jump peek instead though

[tropic folio]

real

[spare canopy]

Hopefully we can have 6 man squads in new one

[junior torrent]

I peeked and still get my head fucked

[solemn epoch]

¿? what issue? i'm saying its dumb and doesn't belong here is all

[junior torrent]

Killed from 100m

[old marten]

Lol yeah

[woeful inlet]

Why do pro gamers complain about the game not being rewarding to "competitive" players when the only thing they want is for it to fit the exact kind of playstyle they're good at

[mild prawn]

how did bf3 and bf4 happen like how is that older with worse tech

[solemn epoch]

do you want to wallrun too?

[woeful inlet]

You should be trying to adapt with the game's mechanics

[solemn epoch]

or maybe just install Titanfall/Cod and do that

[woeful inlet]

I don't go over to cod and say this game should nerf movement lol

[old marten]

They fired the devs behind those titles

[wary sigil]

No one wants wall running bruh

[woeful inlet]

Lmao good bait

[sterile jolt]

What I want isn't unlocking gadgets I already unlocked in BF3 or 4 though I would rather unlock free skins and calling cards for my character if I want to unlock something Or attachments for weapons. Gadget unlocking is just boring, some classes will be useless for hours.

[mild prawn]

ah did they rehire them for this?

[woeful inlet]

Not engaging

[agile stratus]

In close combat, yes. In mid to long range, no 😉

[old marten]

Nope, those devs are now working on The Finals

[solemn epoch]

not even in close combat will any soldier ever crouch slide shoot to be "aggresive"

[old marten]

Turning the corner and just meeting a tank lol

[solemn epoch]

every game that has had the mechanic turned into a dumb fest of people surfing the map lol

[wary sigil]

Hey man quick question, does the videogame need to be based on real life combat scenarios?

[sterile jolt]

Wallrunning shouldn't exist in BF imo, next CoD will look ridiculous with it

[wary sigil]

Next cod will look ridiculous period

[mild prawn]

ill never understand people with money they make the worst mistakes but they say the poor people dumb nah those devs used to be poor prob they was some cheap white boys then they turned out better idk why not just pay them what they worth and keep them on staff why fire them THEY MAKE U GREAT MONEY

[solemn epoch]

as long as it's not detrimental to the gameplay like it always has been

[agile stratus]

I was not talking about sliding. Just relating to reaction time

[solemn epoch]

ah I know but he is

[wary sigil]

Here’s the thing real life combat isnt fun, should the videogame not be fun?

[old marten]

My experience with and cqb in battlefield usually end up being " I can just destroy this building", "can someone shove a tank in here??", or "man operation metro sure is smokey today"

[mild prawn]

just needs to be bf4 with like a 15% increase to everything and its perfect

[vivid lotus]

Metro experience: How many humans can I jam through this elevator?

[solemn epoch]

did you not read my comment? if it's not fun it's detrimental to the gameplay, it's mostly an arcade shooter not a milsim like I've said

[agile stratus]

Or just use an RPG, C4, Grenade Launcher ;D

[devout mauve]

EoD bot

[old marten]

Fast reactions usually aren't rewarded in cqb maps in battlefield since most cqb maps are literal hallways filled with smoke and grenades. 99% of the time, someone will already be looking at the corner/hallway your trying to go down

[solemn epoch]

Noshar tdm
Close Quarters dlc
both had very intense cq

you either had quick reaction or you couldn't play those game modes/maps

[devout mauve]

Battlefield should have Squad gunplay

Jkjk

[mild prawn]

oooh that reminds me does anyone know what time the game is set like early 2000s 2010s? cause like the gear could be very nice or well rough alot of cw shit that hasnt got fazed out yet or the mega spending we did in the middle east could be pretty good id like to see the expo stuff yehhh hehehehe

[solemn epoch]

also people didn't skateboard through the map and still played aggresive, VERY aggresive

that's more a metro thing

locker is just metro 2.0 with snow tbh

nah closer quarters map were better for that

[cloud sage]

metro in bf3 is the best

[junior torrent]

Meanwhile I! 3, 5 CQC MAPS

[solemn epoch]

propaganda was ok but from time to time tanks would say hello from the railroad xD

[old marten]

Nah, they've been starring at the corner the whole match along with the whole team. That's the essence of op metro, op locker, and redacted

[cloud sage]

I hope they remastered those in 6

[solemn epoch]

BF3 had better maps for infantry imo, like the market, azadi palace, etc

even bazar was fun

[wary sigil]

Bring back dawnbreaker

[junior torrent]

Bring back armored strike

[wary sigil]

bring back orbital

[junior torrent]

Gunship and commander unleash havoc

[solemn epoch]

even though LAV would be really strong if people ignore it

[cloud sage]

Parcel storm is a classic

[solemn epoch]

ah paracel is love <3 I honestly didn't appreciate enough when i played 4

now I miss it

[old marten]

I like Bazaar up until that one dirt bag besides to camp at the top of the staircase overlooking the market

[devout mauve]

Sunken Dragon is goated too

[junior torrent]

What about that community test jungle map

Anyone?

[wary sigil]

Paracel is… ok ig

[cloud sage]

Yes I like that one too

[old marten]

That ship cutting through the map??? 🤌 Chef's kiss 🤌

[wary sigil]

It’s been fuckin years since i touched BF4 i do not remember BF4 maps that well

[junior torrent]

Blame the servers

[solemn epoch]

boats and jets would roleplay a bit and infantry would dive and rush through the bushes, it was quite fun

[chrome island]

because every server is just locker

[wary sigil]

Whats ur top 3 maps

[old marten]

What's the one map where it's just a bunch of multi level Chinese apartments crammed together called?

[junior torrent]

Makes me wish game had AI bots from the start

[cloud sage]

Yes it was great map. But the graphics was crap

[solemn epoch]

community has awful taste xD you try to play older titles and it's just the worst maps on repeat that have players

[mild prawn]

cant wait for the little bird i hope they dont fuck my girl up this time

[old marten]

Oh, you're one of those guys

[chrome island]

vehicles better have indepth mechanics so shitters with zero skill can't farm with it

[mild prawn]

gotta go fast and brrrr

[solemn epoch]

little bird is either extremely broken or awful.. no mid ground

decent pilots with repair bots were the most boring and painful thing in the world

[old marten]

The little bird guys got my Rorsch nerfed 😦

[mild prawn]

imma get me a new flight stick for this

[solemn epoch]

i had a friend who was very good with it i honestly refused to repair him i'd just jump off xD

[south echo]

do not use a flight stick for battlefield

[chrome island]

and its still the best "sniper" in game

rorsch is 0 balance OP to this day

[solemn epoch]

dang no love for back to karkand

[devout mauve]

My favorite map lowkey is silk road

[old marten]

It was better for chopper sniping 😦

[mild prawn]

nah i did for bf4 worked great and that was a $15 one from magicmart

[wary sigil]

Sniping tho

[cloud sage]

That's classic right there. The remastered in bf3 was nice

[wary sigil]

how should sniping work in bf6

[chrome island]

all they did was add a longer delay between shots afaik

[solemn epoch]

it's a shame really

[old marten]

What's crazy is that bf4 had 33 maps before the service ended while 2042...

[agile stratus]

Maybe your filter was not set properly or even excluded it?

[latent moat]

True but it doesn't have to be. It can be easily tweaked. It needs to lose the homing missile dodging and below radar needs to be scrapped and then it can return to its mission of being a transport that can also provide a modicum of support firepower instead of the god tier evasion master that can also sponge damage thanks to the onboard repairs

[old marten]

Nerfed damage against vehicles

[wary sigil]

cause i’ll be honest i fw the 2042 sniping ngl

[solemn epoch]

it was probably the best dlc with close quarters (different style tho)

[chrome island]

well, it was a bit too good

[solemn epoch]

3/4 maps were extremely fun

[old marten]

What's CRAZY is that 80% of them were good

[mild prawn]

the little bird isnt supposed to have guided rockets

[solemn epoch]

from what you're saying you just played bf3 recently right

[agile stratus]

Remember the days in BF3 walking up a hallway or in metro and facing the flashlights of death? 😄 You could see nothing 😄

[old marten]

Lol yes they were and judging from your list it's obvious why you didn't think they were

[solemn epoch]

didn't seem to have played back then

[old marten]

He's a tourist bro

Let him pass

[solemn epoch]

many ppl got just the base game free, and most servers arent running premium like before

[mild prawn]

C.I.A?

[solemn epoch]

karkand was prob the most voted maps when metro/bazar werent in the list xD at least in conquest

[old marten]

Having night vision on just to get a flashlight to the face lol

Lol definitely a tourist

[agile stratus]

Regarding maps, everyone has different taste. Its just different opinions. So: There should be many different maps to keep the gameplay refreshing

[old marten]

Sick, let me put that on the fridge so everyone can see

[young moth]

Gotta pump them numbers up brotha

[solemn epoch]

no aftermath either, azadi and market were top too

for infantry

[old marten]

Key words "the game". Singular

[young moth]

After the game becomes outdated that’s how it always is

[solemn epoch]

honestly wish you did, not joking, you missed out on some of the best maps :(

[young moth]

No body runs dlc maps on bf4 bf1 or bf4

5

[solemn epoch]

it's a shame really

[ionic solar]

🔥

[young moth]

Never got the crossbow quest done which bugs me to this day

[old marten]

Did you at least get the crossbow in the forest community map?

[young moth]

The phantom bow yes

[solemn epoch]

idk why don't they just make premium go with base game it's been more than 10 years

[young moth]

On my current account

[ionic solar]

BF3 man what a classic

[solemn epoch]

and they made ton of content that none can enjoy

[young moth]

My 2 others I did the phantom op program Easter egg

[solemn epoch]

i had a lot of fun with dirt bikes and ctf xD

[agile stratus]

Im out for today. Have a good night

[young moth]

The whole bf4 with dlc is 4bucks rn

[solemn epoch]

i honestly don't know i bough a physical copy with premium, and it was just a key for Origin

[young moth]

On Xbox atleast

[old marten]

Easter eggs are also something I'd like back

[solemn epoch]

idk what the hell did they do on steam because it was years after

[timid bane]

Anybody have a playtest available when they login yet?

[old marten]

Nothing like hunting for the megalodon with the community

[young moth]

I’ll say this again for the crowd that wasn’t here. We need paid dlc back for the devs to actually put some real work into maps and Easter eggs. With a battle pass and live service system they have no reason to actually try to make good and fun maps with great ees

[solemn epoch]

okay just checked and steam only has premium version of the game

and it's just 4 € lol

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1238820/Battlefield_3/

but bf3 was given for free in Origin before it existed on steam, so maybe thats why there's many ppl just playing non dlc content

[agile stratus]

One last word on that from my side: I would now do so as I now have a regular income compared to being in school and university when BF3 and 4 were released 😅

[old marten]

Hopefully there's a section in the paperwork after this "pre-alpha" test

[agile stratus]

ah no... universty only... Bad company 1 & 2 was school 😄

[solemn epoch]

was trying to find a short video to show talah market you'd prob love that one @rich ember

but every video is like 10-12 min montages xD

so many routes to flank, houses, etc

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-sad-nostalgia-gif-17540086145397943374

[old marten]

But then again, we're way past that development phase to change the monetization model

[solemn epoch]

remake bf3 i'm in

[alpine badge]

what almost done?

nice

hope they get the scoreboard on release

[tropic folio]

the fact that we're hoping for a scoreboard truly says everything

[tight rain]

Think of the rush we’ll get when it has one though

[solemn epoch]

wdym i hope we get a scoreboard hahah

[burnt quartz]

What did 2042 have on launch?

[tight rain]

Not much

[burnt quartz]

it had shitty performance

[solemn epoch]

the worst map design in history of Battlefield

among other things

that's honestly my biggest concern i know they can do fun gameplay but maps are so important and they've become so bad at it

[burnt quartz]

Hold on, Hourglass is easily the best map to ever launch in battlefield history

[tight rain]

Hey now stranded released during season 2 not launch

[burnt quartz]

Guys come on, Battlefield 2042 clearly has the best graphics in any Battlefield game

[solemn epoch]

Which version of it?

[burnt quartz]

Any because they all are great

[limpid plinth]

bf3 has the best graphics

[solemn epoch]

[burnt quartz]

Ok first off

If you look at the amount of pixels per texture

it is clearly a graphic marvel

[solemn epoch]

[limpid plinth]

high resolution doesnt mean it looks better

[burnt quartz]

Ok be real I annoyed myself just saying Reddit talking points all over

That was horrid im not doing that again

[solemn epoch]

Hey guys every map we made kinda sucks
Add containers!

[burnt quartz]

Battlefield 1 is my favorite, then comes 4

[wooden grove]

1 was ok but then I played 4 and that was the perfect game

4, hardline and bfbc2 were the best... bf3 I did not play enough to judge but I think it would also be in this list.

[bronze portal]

biggest issue is them having bit off more than they could chew

they were struggling to make good 64 player maps

idk what they were fucking thinking with 128 players

[wooden grove]

bf3 had the best campaign though

[burnt quartz]

4 my only issue was all of those damn campaign bugs

[spare canopy]

true @wooden grove

[bronze portal]

newer bf players think multiplayer is everything so

bf3/bf4 was decent enough for campaign to be valid

bf1 storytelling was interesting that they wanted to encompass a lot of different sectors but it felt too short for me to really create a connection with the characters

bfv was...aside from the french black soliders and the last tiger they were pretty ass

[wooden grove]

I did not like bf4 campaign it was boring

[icy arch]

I never saw the point of campaing for BF honestly.. Just jumped right into playing the game smoking noobs

[inner helm]

BF3 had the best campaign. BF1 had the best graphics, mechanics, and most unique. BF4 is the GOAT. Also, i loved BF2142 back in the day. I just love mechs lol

[spare canopy]

I'm convinced bf3 was just a way for Dice to flex the frostbite engine so hard

[bronze portal]

that nordlys campaign was fucking dogshit

[alpine badge]

BF4 campaign is low-key boring in my opinion

[wooden grove]

bf1 was good as a first game but honestly looking back it sucked

[icy arch]

bf1 was when the game started going bad

[alpine badge]

BF1 is amazing ngl

really captures the WW1 setting

[sacred eagle]

facts

[inner helm]

They could have just remade BF4 and id buy it

[alpine badge]

played a ton and I was having a blast

[sacred eagle]

Atmosphere was great

[wooden grove]

no it is so unrealistic verdun did it better

[icy arch]

Bf4 had a much larger audiance than bf1.. for a reason.. not saying it was 100% trash.. just not as great as priors

[bronze portal]

bf1 is a cinematic game

[zinc oriole]

Is it easy to find a match? I'm debating between buying BF1 or BFV

[alpine badge]

in a perfect universe, we could've gotten a Battlefield friends set in BF1

[bronze portal]

but the gameplay itself is shallow, and pretty bad

[spare canopy]

bf1 hit the right spot at the right time when everyone was siiick of modern/future fps shooters it was a welcome addition

[sacred eagle]

On steam I believe bf1 is the game with the highest player count

[alpine badge]

if you're a fan of WW1 games, BF1 is the way to go

[bronze portal]

if you're a fan of ww-1 setting games*

if you wanted authentic ww1 game experience verdun and isonzo exists

[verbal bone]

BF1 is hardly an accurate description of WWI lol. But I love be game with a burning passion

[alpine badge]

the campaign is a mix bag but holy shit the intro is just amazing

[bronze portal]

they stretched the boundaries of arsenals to make gameplay more diverse. even then they stuck to the whole ww1 ear setting so i enjoyed it

[zinc oriole]

I really like the visuals from BFV but i've heard BF1 is unique and inmersive, are they both well optimized?

[bronze portal]

bfv visuals imo

is too vibrant

its beautiful, but too vibrant

[sacred eagle]

In my experience they are both well optimized yeah

[alpine badge]

it's authentic enough to not notice the historical innacuracies

[verbal bone]

I wish BTW didn’t die immediately on release

[cosmic moat]

The game mode they used to run with only bolt-actions was great.

[bronze portal]

back to basics? yeah except one thing

the snipers had the dogshit mechanism called sweetspot

[verbal bone]

A large sum of the arsenal being prototypes isn’t hardly something to look over

[sacred eagle]

I think they both have great visuals but bf1 has a much more bleak color palette which contributes to the feeling of the game

[bronze portal]

and certain countries were given really decent ones with good sweetspot

[lyric birch]

gotta love the leveloutions tho

[woeful inlet]

BF1 >

[cosmic moat]

What was sweetspot again?

The OHK range?

[tight rain]

Yessir

[bronze portal]

a range of distance a sniper can kill from 1 hit to the chest

[cosmic moat]

Was the problem that they OHK at all? Or just that the range wasn't tuned well?

[woeful inlet]

Well the reason is that a modern setting appeals to people more than ww1 lol. The game in itself was great

[alpine badge]

I love the dedication they put on the hellriegle despite the lack of records of the gun being fired ever

[bronze portal]

only gun that i kinda forgave for sweet spot was martini since it was a single shot, but even then the range of the sweet spot should be heavily diluted

[verbal bone]

BF1 should not be taken as an accurate depiction of the war in the slightest. Should be taken as a jumping off point for further research into the war, and being a game for dumb fun. Nothing more

[cosmic moat]

So the problem was not that they one-shot, just that the range at which did was arbitrary?

I like a OHK sniper, I'm just wondering if I'm in a small minority.

[bronze portal]

i don't care about how much the war is accurately depicted but the game itself is very shallow in terms of skill gap and tools. the biggest problem is things like gas and mortars were just annoying

[verbal bone]

I do like bf1 resurrecting weapons lost to history

[sterile jolt]

Snipers should have one shot range in 10 meters imo

[ashen mango]

Maybe look at the context of what I was replying to and you would see I was being ironic.

[sterile jolt]

Or 5 meters

[old sonnet]

airsoft i guess lol

[sterile jolt]

If I point blank someone with a sniper he should be dead

[alpine badge]

kinda sad that we will never know how the hellriegle really work

[verbal bone]

Not every game needs to be in depth mechanically, sometimes a game can just be simple fun

[rich terrace]

it is. thats how it worked in bf3 and 4

[warm forge]

that shit was hours ago but I was joking

[bronze portal]

a game can be fun with enough elements for things to master etc

the game ended up listening too much to the casual community and removed every form of skill expression, and thats when a lot of the players left

bf1 is dumb fun though. auto pilot and just hipfire and chill

[verbal bone]

Well that’s why BF4 exists I suppose

[warm forge]

BF4 was super fun on ps3.

[bronze portal]

only movement in game was the slide and they basically made is useless

albeit, release state slide was horrid

old timey game old timey folks,

[ashen mango]

bro you play Roblox willingly shut your mouth youngin

[warm forge]

my friend wanted to play Doors.

[icy arch]

We have been with the BF ride since 2002 with BF 1942.. ALL the iterations built on each other in a good way... since BF4 tried to impersonate other games and stopped being BF IMO.... COD does a great job at gound to ground combat.. BF will never be that.. fortnite does battle royale but NO one does what BF used to do.. 😕 that's my 2 cents as an old timer

[verbal bone]

Oop gonna get warned again

[warm forge]

BF4 Didn't "Impersonate" Other Games, tf are you talking about.

[icy arch]

no.. since BF4..

they have tried

NOT Bf4

[warm forge]

maybe insporation?, Not copying fully. (Mb for the garbage spelling)

[untold aspen]

I suppose you can say that they impersonated cod with the increase in freedom with weapon attachments but by that logic every modern fps impersonated fortnite with some sort of battle pass

[warm forge]

atleast Battlefield didn't add a battle pass.

thank god

[untold aspen]

2042 and 5 both had one

[rose cosmos]

.

[warm forge]

and I just had to remove it because someone just dmed me with death threats.

[sterile jolt]

I hope next game won't have a stupid gunsmithing system

[warm forge]

No lmao it wasn't you

[warm forge]

seriously.

also does anyone know the chances of getting into the BFL playtest?

[devout mauve]

Bf4 never copied anything 😭🙏

Wym

[sterile jolt]

BF4 has perfect amounts of attachment slots imo, we don't need to change barrel and grip and stock of each gun

[warm forge]

dang.

[sterile jolt]

I dislike that

99% of the weapons don't have interchangable parts

[fringe dawn]

guy who doesn't know how firearms works spotted ]

[sterile jolt]

Bolt is usually tied to grips, stock can have recoil springs which would destroy the weapon if changed

[fringe dawn]

do huh??????????????

youre kidding? right?

[torn osprey]

yeah thats a bit off haha

[fringe dawn]

what firearm is the bolt tied specifically to the grip

[sterile jolt]

AK has that afaik

[sterile jolt]

Not the bolt but firing mechanism of M4

[fringe dawn]

..... that includes the bolt

are you talking about the reciever?

[torn osprey]

oh he means the lower, I think

[fringe dawn]

i think he means the fire control group

like with the internal hammer and stuff

yes

[strange trout]

WHAT TIME IS EVERYTHING KICKING OFF TOMORROW

[torn osprey]

yeah youre confusing us buddy you want to elaborate wht you meant more?

[strange trout]

sorry for cap

[sterile jolt]

I can't send a pic, I'm not a gun expert but most weapons has parts tied to other specific parts like AK's recoil springs and stock

[strange trout]

fist of all the trigger group is what it is called

[torn osprey]

The grip is still swappable so what youre saying is confusing

[fringe dawn]

brain go whooooo couldnt think of it

the ak recoil spring is in no way associated with the stock

i rlly want an AK12 but theyre super expensive

[strange trout]

they them you are in need of an understanding in real life. it dont matter what gear is on the weapon. It matters on the shooters skill

[fringe dawn]

???

why is there beef about firearms parts

[strange trout]

oh really 20 pus year sin the military and anexpert marksman and a certified armorer

[sterile jolt]

I confuse it with some other weapon then

[untold aspen]

you can still put aftermarket parts on an ak

[sterile jolt]

There are weapons with recoil springs attached to stock 🤷

[strange trout]

as you say they all work togethor. people need facts to put them into check

[untold aspen]

look at the sag chassis

[fringe dawn]

dawg the conversation was always about firearms parts

this is also the battlefield discord server, real weird place to beef

[strange trout]

I can take 45 cal and hit a target at 100 yds not by the hardware but by the skill

[fringe dawn]

9mm better tho

[torn osprey]

typicaly no slide they are located in side the action behind the carrier group or bolt

[strange trout]

its not the hardware that makes the weapon better only the shooter

from what i was reading it didnt

[torn osprey]

sim out here just swinging in the dark haha

[slow tundra]

Typical battlefield chat

w

[fringe dawn]

im very excited for the new bf game

i think it will be very fun

[strange trout]

i am out there lurking in the dark for the first shot.

[torn osprey]

the reason for all of this was discussing swappable parts on weapons in game

then we made 3 left turns somewhere

[strange trout]

yeah someone started real life so i chimed in

[fringe dawn]

i thought it was cool in 2042 but i dont think id like to see it in the new one

[strange trout]

So back to my previous question what time does it kick off tomorrow

[torn osprey]

I think the way Delta Force did it is perfect but thats askin too much for a BF game

[cosmic moat]

I liked BF1's weapon variant system. Means you spend less time in a menu worrying about +0.05% diagonal recoil control and more time actually shooting them.

[sterile jolt]

Delta Force is awful

[strange trout]

my email said friday that they will start testing

[fringe dawn]

i havent gotten any emails about testing

[torn osprey]

didnt say the game was #1 buddy just said I like the realistic weapon options

[strange trout]

oh well i am sorry. I swore something saying the 7th of feb but no time

[sterile jolt]

Some people refuses to make sniper gunsmithing guides for it because he knows it would make the game unplayable

[torn osprey]

huh?

[slow tundra]

What are you on about?

[strange trout]

me

or slide lover

[slow tundra]

slide

[strange trout]

ok

[sterile jolt]

Most famous DF youtuber refuses to teach people how to build no scope, max velocity , max fire rate snipers because you can create abominations like that in gunsmithing

[plush cloud]

Are we still talking about battlefield

[strange trout]

one reason he wont is probably 2 reason

[fringe dawn]

how do i know if ive properly signed up for the labs testing

[sterile jolt]

Delta Force

[strange trout]

1 he dont like people and laszy

[torn osprey]

ok?

[strange trout]

2 hes hacking

[fringe dawn]

ive gotten the welcome to EA playtesting

and did the preferences survey

[plush cloud]

If the games in pre alpha I'm really not that concerned about a sniper defect, if that's your point here

[sterile jolt]

People still ask him his weapon codes lol despite him explaining how he builds his weapons, gunsmithing is just copy pasting loadouts from youtubers for 90% of the people. 0 originality.

[torn osprey]

again were talking about weapon customization here haha I dont know how so many wires got crossed in the last 10 min but breathe fellas were just chattin

[calm wigeon]

@ivory hull hello, I just wanted to know if it was possible on Battlefield 2025 to play keyboard mouse on console, because no EA game allows it, it would not only be cool for people who prefer a gaming device, but also a way to possibly get more players in my case. thank you for your response have a nice day. kisses from France, your most loyal fan base

[fringe dawn]

yea but ive not gotten an email

[torn osprey]

and? what does that have to do with the fact that being able to built your weapon out to your liking and playstyle is bad?

[sterile jolt]

That's why I don't like it, give me a laser, a grip, a red dot and maybe a compensator. 4 slots that can fix all the issues.

[torn osprey]

or what makes that bad is what I mean

[fringe dawn]

ohhhhhhhhh i see i see

i sure hope i get selected

then that must mean simblade got selected, congrats dude

[strange trout]

well i can say i have done builds people have recommended in delta force and they still are laser beaming like no other. mine has the same build they are using and recoil is still huge

[torn osprey]

Well Slide alot of us are gun owners in the real world and I love matching my real stuff in game, just cause its fun

[fringe dawn]

have you seen the pr57

[strange trout]

ty dye

[torn osprey]

I havnt no

[strange trout]

I been testing for 25 years

[sterile jolt]

It just makes base weapons feel worse, BO6 launched with horrible idle sway, horrible visual recoil, horrible ADS/STF speeds for example. They tuned it down a lot after the release but idea was releasing shit base guns only for them to be good with gunsmithing.

[fringe dawn]

keltec just released a top loading 5.7 pistol

[sterile jolt]

No one is doing the cosmetic aspect, at best there will be let's say M16 skins that turns it into a Commando

[torn osprey]

Ya lost be at anything CoD related, but I get what youre saying kinda. Im good if it was all cosmetic. BUT loadouts make people play more and they are a business

[fringe dawn]

i just want the game to feel like battlefield, 2042 just was super floaty and the gunplay wasnt that great to me

[strange trout]

what i find un pc gaming people using controller and having aim ssist on. That gives them an unfair advantage on the field. I know of one player who uses the controller and the mouse at same time

he is dead on accurate

[fringe dawn]

mnk is objectively better imo, aim assist is super strong in other games but pretty weak in others

[sterile jolt]

It works like that in Delta Force too, base guns are just weak without tons of attachments to mitigate their negatives

[calm wigeon]

@ivory hull hello, I just wanted to know if it was possible on Battlefield 2025 to play keyboard mouse on console, because no EA game allows it, it would not only be cool for people who prefer a gaming device, but also a way to possibly get more players in my case. thank you for your response have a nice day. kisses from France, your most loyal fan base

[strange trout]

there is a device but it is going to be banned for use in most games for console to allow mouse and keyboard

[torn osprey]

I disagree while they may not be as accurate the damage stays mostly the same it mostly changes the fall off rates at range

[strange trout]

the kronos adapter i might be spelling it wrong

[sterile jolt]

You can turn low TTK weapons into laserbeams with gunsmithing

[torn osprey]

that thing looks kinda junky man haha

[fringe dawn]

its keltec so im not surprised

[calm wigeon]

Call of duty are ok on that, and every other game nexy generation

[strange trout]

keltec crap weapons

[fringe dawn]

i want an RFB

a bullpup 7.62 x 51 is hilarious to me

[strange trout]

atually the cod has announced that it will enforce bans n the kronos at one time

[torn osprey]

I jsut watched a YT short where the thing self disassembles in his hand while showing the load feature haha

[strange trout]

kronos has aimbot and wire hacks able to be programmed into it. It is like the mda hack. it external devices that make it hard to catch

[fringe dawn]

i wish HK were a fan of the poors so i didnt have to get a loan for a rifle

[torn osprey]

haha thats no lie sir

[fringe dawn]

either they cant ship to the states or its ridiculously expensive

[strange trout]

i am sig sauer fan in real life. but thy never add them into the game

[fringe dawn]

if youre super into sig guns Tarkov has alot of them

or Ready or Not

[strange trout]

shate tarkov

[torn osprey]

I was able to pick up a german sig before the factory closed and it was super pricey

[fringe dawn]

i wouldnt carry a p320 though, dont need it exploding in my holster at the range

[strange trout]

i have in my arsenal 2 sig p320 xzp and m17

[torn osprey]

but investments I guess haha

[fringe dawn]

well i mean things like MP7s and g36

[strange trout]

On my rught ar10 dmr i have the 1x10 tango sig sauer site

HK is all over. you can buy them at bass pro scheels and cabelas

[gloomy plover]

Xbox bf4 has a air superiority lobby that's not locked behind a password

Currently in it wanting to unlock ucav

[north burrow]

Does anyone know if the new battlefield will support linux?

I have my doubts

[alpine badge]

it might but less likely for mac

[vestal mantle]

Is the new game just called Battlefield?

[alpine badge]

Battlefield Labs but maybe it'll be called Battlefield 6

[vestal mantle]

Battlefield 6 is 2042.

[random blade]

The next one will either just be a name like hardline or a date, bet.

[bronze portal]

fieldstruggles

[somber nest]

haven't paid attention in a few days since signing up for Labs, any other news come out yet?

[visual coral]

battlefield 3 remastered????

[raw folio]

not remastered, this would look like more remake

[visual coral]

oh okay

[modern apex]

I feel like it would be weird if they did a bf3 remake

[raw folio]

capcom does

[somber nest]

Capcom is being kept afloat by their great remakes

It honestly is impressive how good their remakes are.

[modern apex]

I feel like it would be better if they did bf2 or something

[somber nest]

Especially when all their other recent games have been meh at best

[modern apex]

Bf3 still looks fine

[somber nest]

Yeah, 'cept for that art direction lol

[modern apex]

Or 2142 even though they wouldnt do that ever

It wouldnt sell well

[raw folio]

yeap re4 remake was awesome but i knew what to expect every corner of the game

[modern apex]

Re4 remake is so good

[raw folio]

you mean bad company?

[modern apex]

Nah

Like the OG battlefield 2

[somber nest]

2142 is in a weird spot. It's one of the most highly regarded battlefield games but due to it's release proximity to BF2 it sold like shit. It's the lowest selling game of the franchise.

[raw folio]

i played it when i was a kid but it was a crack mod or something

i was playing with bots

[modern apex]

Yeah i just barely remember it

My dad played it alot

[raw folio]

but you right that was realy good game

[modern apex]

But i remember being so good

[somber nest]

I would love for a 2142 remake or sequel. It gives DICE the room to really stretch out and create something unique given it's future tech.

[modern apex]

It would be so cool

[somber nest]

They aren't beholden to the fanboys of M16A4s and shit wanting so much realism in weaponry

[raw folio]

it is good even right now cuz of the nostalgia of course but there are people who create servers and plays

india and russia i think

[modern apex]

Yeah theres this thing called bf2hub

You can still play it but you need a disc i think

[raw folio]

i played 2142 with ps2 that was not good at ps 2 i can tell

[modern apex]

Nah

[somber nest]

Titan Mode definitely needs a comeback. The community has been clammoring for it for a decade and they still have yet to do it.

[burnt quartz]

That needs to make a come back with any game

[vocal axle]

id love 1943 to come back

[modern apex]

I've only ever watched people play it but it looked really good

[burnt quartz]

I always take self hosted servers over official

[somber nest]

2142 wasn't on PS2 bruh

[raw folio]

bf2 players have their own community i think

[raw folio]

yeahh i remembered right now the game i played called modern combat or something . but it was bf

[somber nest]

I don't think any Battlefield was on PS2

[raw folio]

let me check

[somber nest]

Maybe BF2: Modern Combat?

[modern apex]

I hated that game

[somber nest]

IIRC it was Battlefield mostly in name lol

[raw folio]

yeaah it was modern combat

[modern apex]

I had that game on the 360

[raw folio]

but they look same actualy

what do you guys think about this year? can we expect really nice games this year? or next year?

[modern apex]

Im excited for this year

Doom

Skate 4

Gta 6

[raw folio]

dark ages you mean

[modern apex]

Probably

[warped jackal]

if gta6 flops I flop

[modern apex]

Yeah

[warped jackal]

i 100% believe in rockstar though

[modern apex]

What do yall think the best rockstar game is

[raw folio]

we all do believe rockstar they never fail but we, pc player will have to wait one year longer

[somber nest]

My wishlist for the next BF is basically this:
Battlefield 3/Battlefield 4 era modern combat and a combination of the destruction mechanics.
Battlefield 2 diversity in play style and map design
Battlefield 1 and Battlefield V player movement and ambience
Battlefield 2042 literally only the wingsuit and the gun rose thing that lets you change attachments and ammo type
Battlefield 2142 Titan Mode

[modern apex]

Gta san andreas is my goat

[somber nest]

Also a return of commander mode.

[raw folio]

no question about it
its rdr2 but gta6 will be beter

[raw folio]

nostalgia bro

[modern apex]

Bf2 maps

[raw folio]

it is all nostalgia

[summer forge]

Modern Combat was

[somber nest]

Return to Karkand is the best expansion for a battlefield game for a reason after all

[modern apex]

Facts

[finite mauve]

I got un timed out finally

💀

[raw folio]

bf42 was not so bad i think but yeah you right bf4 or bf3 are much better right now
if there are remastered versions of these game i would play those rather than bf42

[somber nest]

I take it back, I would also like the environmental effects from 2042

[finite mauve]

2042 overhated

[somber nest]

The weather effects as well as the effect your feet and vehicles have on the ground is an awesome thing

[raw folio]

but why

[summer forge]

I want the grit of V with the landscape and destruction of 4

[finite mauve]

Well 2042 is a solid game right now after release ofc

[summer forge]

Throw in the story/mayhem of BC2

[finite mauve]

Not the best

But it's just solid

[somber nest]

If I was faced with choosing destruction levels, I'd go BF3 over BF4. They really toned it down in BF4 in favor of "Levelution"

[warped jackal]

2042 is a beautiful game though, Hourglass is probably the best looking battlefield map ever

[finite mauve]

The only objectively bad battlefield is 2042

[summer forge]

Now you gonna trigger everyone 🤣😂

[finite mauve]

V was good

[somber nest]

I love BFV. I don't think it's deserved nearly the flack it got

[finite mauve]

Hey Battlefield 3/4/1 is still the best

[raw folio]

the thing i dont like this game is just one thing and that is scope mechanichs
it doesnt look realistic
every bf games are realistic than cod games

[somber nest]

2042 was trash at first but it's enjoyable now

[finite mauve]

People are shitting on EA when the only objectively bad battlefield game was 2042

Like that was the only one

People be saying don't pre order and no trust yet that was their only objectively bad game

🤦‍♂️

[somber nest]

Nothing has held a candle to BF3 though. Great launch, great life cycle.

[somber nest]

BF4 was a mess for nearly the first year. Also you're forgetting Hardline lol

[finite mauve]

Battlefield 4 launch:

[finite mauve]

Hardline was good

Overhated

Like I said

The only objectively bad game was 2042

[summer forge]

Fun story, bad multi

[somber nest]

Hardline was goodish, I think it would've done better if it wasn't marketed as a Battlefield game

[outer wave]

Every recent fifa, bfh also wasn’t too great

[finite mauve]

Lol the story was like a like a show😂

[somber nest]

They also needed better gunplay in BFH

[summer forge]

Random: BF4 intro is GOAT

[finite mauve]

Yeah

I never skip the intro

[somber nest]

The guns in BFH felt like shooting pellet guns

[raw folio]

i have bf series just bf 1 and 42 ill buy v too
but i wish i could buy 4 too but i dont want to buy this game because i cant rely on this you know. bf3 servers are shot down as far as i know. bf 4 will shut down too

[finite mauve]

Too much spread

[somber nest]

Is BF3 shut down? I swear the servers are still up

[raw folio]

ending was bad

[raw folio]

i need to check. i was watching a youtuber and heard this info

[warped jackal]

if you sacrificed irish ur a bum

[raw folio]

lol

[finite mauve]

Xbox 360 only

[raw folio]

i didnt play to the end i dont have the game
but i played with ps3 at internet cafe

but i couldnt finish the game

[somber nest]

I'm really hoping they don't add anymore unnecessary drivel in the next game. These games don't need a BR mode. They've tried it twice and failed both times so hopefully they learn that lesson and focus more on the core game.

[mystic sapphire]

anybody wanna play bf3 coop with me on pc

[somber nest]

I'd argue that none of them except the BC series need single player either

[summer forge]

I don’t remember what it was

[raw folio]

Hello everyone, unfortunately a date has just been unveiled to close the Battlefield 3 online service, on November 7, 2024 we will no longer be able to connect and play online.

[summer forge]

Just said the intro is GOAT

[somber nest]

Disappointing, but it is a 14 year old game at this point.

[raw folio]

same age with arma 3 yea?

[summer forge]

Shoot V trailer was better than the game itself

[raw folio]

arma 3 servers are still up

[somber nest]

Nah Arma 3 is a couple years newer. And their servers aren't reliant on EA Backbone iirc

[old marten]

Any emails yet?

[raw folio]

where i can sign up for the labs

[mystic sapphire]

mass effect 3 servers are still up

[raw folio]

i tried to sign up but queue it wasnt working i think

[distant gate]

theres a link in the direct-communications tab

[mystic sapphire]

so i cant play coop on bf3 with anyone?

[distant gate]

the queue was gone for me

[somber nest]

Isn't ME3 peer-to-peer?

[mystic sapphire]

I dont think so, I even play doom 2016 multiplayer

actually it is

[summer forge]

4, 1, and V had great trailers

[torpid notch]

How come this server is huge but theres scarcely any people in the lfg channels

[burnt quartz]

1 by far had the best trailers

[torpid notch]

Im tryna find some homies to play with

[raw folio]

bro

[somber nest]

Prolly folks playing in their own community servers

[raw folio]

im signing up and they asking pronouns

why

[somber nest]

Statistics

[burnt quartz]

The true Battlefield way to find homies is befriend one person on a server, play the night, then you never see them again for 10 weeks and they barely remember you

[wise locust]

V had good trailiers? lol

no shot

[torpid notch]

ahh I see. let me know if there's any links you got for me lol. Trying to find a group

[raw folio]

real bf players are he males

not them

[torpid notch]

That would be nice but people use mics very infrequently

[wise locust]

are you trolling?

[burnt quartz]

Personally I dont understand the drama either

[somber nest]

Statistics and general respect probably. It may not be something any of us subscribe to, but I feel like someone that goes by they/them/she/attack helicopter won't appreciate being addressed as he/him

[solid hinge]

bf1 all dlc trophies, have rented map and doing tomorrow dm me and ill add to a gc, ps4/5

[raw folio]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-im-ready-lightsaber-star-wars-gif-15851238

[somber nest]

Yeah, I don't understand why people take simple consideration as an attack on their very foundations.

[burnt quartz]

I was not aware I was genuinely blocked for making a joke about Battlefield 2042 defenders

[strong stone]

Millions of women fought with prosthetic arms they were the majority in WWII

[mystic sapphire]

ANYBODY FOR BF3 COOP?

[wise locust]

lol

if anything, the trailer should have hand more of them

why would you have a wwii game and only have males...that not realistic is it?

[somber nest]

I don't understand the backlash tbh, I thought it was just a fun little thing in the trailer.

Like it or not, women play games so it's nice to give them a character reflective of themselves.

Accurate to history or not

Yeah the exploitation of people's wallets is getting pretty fucking outta hand with AAA devs

[wise locust]

no one said women don't play games...but its a game based on WORLD WAR II...

what are we even talking about lol

[somber nest]

Who cares when it's set? It's not a sim, it's an arcade shooter.

[wise locust]

then why base it on WWII at all then

why use guns from that time?

[somber nest]

I'd take issue if it was Arma 3 or Hell Let Loose

[wise locust]

settings from that time

just make up everything. go crazy right?

you can't be serious

[somber nest]

Right

[modern apex]

No battlefield game is realistic lol

[strong stone]

It didn't depict the gritty dark setting of WWII like CoD WaW with the Frostbite engine. I think this is what the core (older) Battlefield fans wanted, but instead we got a depiction of a very small part of history. Yes, of course it is just a video game, albeit an arcade shooter too, but its previous releases like Battlefield 3-Battlefield 1 were a much darker tone, depicted a more realistic or at least expected setting, and were all around better marketed games in general.

[wise locust]

you don't get the difference between realism and just changing history?

[somber nest]

BF3 was blue and BF4 wasn't gritty either. BFV had color, yeah but so did the countries and time. There were forests and shit back then.

BFV is arguably fairly gritty

[modern apex]

Terhan highway was dark

[somber nest]

A night time map does not gritty make

[strong stone]

ikr, I think its kind of a disservice to not show the hell soldiers went thru in WWII and instead make some ridiculous rare scenario that doesn't resonate with WWII combat

[modern apex]

I didnt know you meant dark as in gritty i wasnt paying attention

[wise locust]

exactly. I don't get the cope to say other wise

[somber nest]

One thing I think we can all agree on: The next BF needs a limit on sniper rifles.

[modern apex]

Nah

[somber nest]

6 snipers per team max

[wise locust]

no

please stop typing

[modern apex]

Bro are you guys crazy

Ragebaiting

Lets remove all vehicles

[wise locust]

some of these takes in here tonight have been all time bad lol

[twilit thorn]

Honestly just want a better bf4..

[somber nest]

Recon class as a whole is fine to not cap, just cap the amount of active sniper slots in a server.

[raw folio]

I hope Ill get to chance play it signed up right now

[somber nest]

How many times you chucklefucks been in a tight game only to lose because 16 people are sniping from the uncap

[modern apex]

Lets make it so the only weapons you can use are the AEK and M416

[raw folio]

with labs?

[somber nest]

Found the uncap sniper

I bet you operate MAA from the uncap too

[modern apex]

I actually never play sniper

Im an engineer main

[lunar meadow]

Is battlefield 1 dead on PlayStation?

[twilit thorn]

I think anything without crossplay rn is dead unfortunately

[somber nest]

I bet you use Active Radar Missiles too

[twilit thorn]

Or just full servers all around

[modern apex]

Nope

[strong stone]

BF4 was much less grittier than BF3, but the initial trailer showing the first 17minutes of gameplay off the single player did show some grittiness, at least darker than the BFV first trailer imo

[raw folio]

sniper recon is good but you always spotted by other recons cuz of the scope light
but there is a real device for this where you can put on your scope and your location becomes harder to see

[somber nest]

Trailers don't count, gameplay does sir

[warped jackal]

The next Battlefield just needs to slow the game down a bit and im chillin

[somber nest]

Same

I don't understand how identity got conflated with politics

They're just acknowledging people's existence

[raw folio]

u right. bf always makes good trailers we need to wait for gameplay footages

[modern apex]

Battlefield is not realistic bro

If you want realism go play squad

[devout mauve]

I liked the bf4 plotline about the whole revolution in china and stuff

it def could have been done better though

[raw folio]

it was with bf2 till to the bf4

[modern apex]

Nah

[raw folio]

bad company series for real for me

[warped jackal]

if 2042 actually leaned into its story it would've been alot better

[somber nest]

Nah dawg, BF2 had no realism whatsoever lol

[raw folio]

damn

[modern apex]

People get authenticity confused with realism

[twilit thorn]

Story?

[raw folio]

nostalgia then

it was real for me

[devout mauve]

realism would be like arma or something

[warped jackal]

resource wars, fallen countries, crazy climate shit

[wise locust]

That's what I've been saying. They either are slow or are doing it on purpose to push their stance

[twilit thorn]

Oh oh true. Yeah I don’t know why they never expanded on it all.

[wise locust]

no way they don't get it

[somber nest]

Because it's the year of our lord 2025 and other people than white dudes exist?

[modern apex]

Facts

[twilit thorn]

Global warming disputes 🙂

[lime flame]

The battlefield footage looks good so far. Can't wait to try the game out. I like battlefield a lot

[somber nest]

I swear, 25 years ago this shit wouldn't have mattered. American's have been exposed to too much extremism if they're this up in arms over women and gay folks in media

[wise locust]

why talk about people exisitng?

[warped jackal]

2042's story would've actually been depressing af

[wise locust]

what does that have to do with the quality of

[twilit thorn]

Could’ve made a statement tho or a “imagine if” moment

[somber nest]

2042 would've done better if it had Titan mode and Walkers, change my mind.

[raw folio]

what do you think happen next. they already destroyed our ubisfoft. we lost prience of persia games, and good ac games. the last and best ac game was unity

[strong stone]

I think the newer Battlefield fan-base (those who entered the franchise with BFV & BF2042) can't fathom what they missed out on when BF peaked with BFBC2-Battlefield 1. BFV & BF2042 are really bad representations of what made the franchise so good.

[wise locust]

what does any of this have to do with battlefield?

[twilit thorn]

Absolutely insane

[wise locust]

you make a great point there

[somber nest]

Ives Guillemot ruined ubisoft. I'll never forgive that frog piece of shit for ruining Siege.

[modern apex]

Ngl i think the bad company 1 and 2 are overrated

[lime flame]

I've played all the battlefield games. I plan on playing this battlefield and so on

[twilit thorn]

Battlefield is forever a staple in my game library

[devout mauve]

a lot of games peaked around that time and pre 2010s too

[modern apex]

People overrate the campaigns in those games so hard

[wise locust]

How can anyone see what happened to the franchise with V and 2042 and defend those games lol

[strong stone]

Don't forget what happened with BF2042's launch and all the missing core mechanics it had. But we can still be hopeful. I am especially hopeful I can play test the pre-alpha versions of what the dev teams have been working on to really give them constructive feedback.

[somber nest]

I've played since BF1942 came out in 2002 when I was 10. If anyone in this conversation knows what makes Battlefield i'm definitely one of them.

[raw folio]

siege was better when released cuz of the.. idont know cool and dark feelings. now it doesnt feel real

[devout mauve]

not so much fps but I felt like since we are talking about story for war themed games, I felt like World In Conflict did it really well

[wise locust]

"legacy features" lol

[raw folio]

me too

[modern apex]

All battlefield campaigns are trash ngl

[lime flame]

That's what we are here for to improve the game with our opinions. I'm sure they won't make that mistake again. 🤞

[wise locust]

I'll be honest, I don't judge BF games on their campaign since 99% of my playtime is in multiplayer

[modern apex]

Maybe not bf1

[somber nest]

They took it from Tactical shooter to Arcade Hero Shooter and removed some aspects of destruction that were core to the gameplay.

[modern apex]

But its still mid

[raw folio]

cod makes games every year. but bf does not make every game every year. but surely makes much better than cod

[devout mauve]

the shanghai level was my favorite tbh

[somber nest]

Talking about Siege, not BF here lol

[modern apex]

I still like siege ngl

[strong stone]

People like that lack the ability to acknowledge all of the small details that shape a video game.

[raw folio]

u guys know the game called area f2?

[modern apex]

Its in my top 10 for sure

[warped jackal]

that game takes years off my life i cant play it anymore

[teal fractal]

even then im pretty sure people dont consider siege very tactical

[modern apex]

I like being tortured

[warped jackal]

i got spawn peeked in ranked like 5 years ago and dropped it

[lime flame]

Cod would be a better game of itself if they would allow more time in development. Hackers have gone wild too.

[somber nest]

I had around 2000 hours from beta Siege though 2019 when they ruined it.

[devout mauve]

siege is js esports shooting larping as a tactical game

[modern apex]

They didnt RUIN it

[raw folio]

they can kick you out literally in the game. there is a hack for it

[somber nest]

They ruined it.

[modern apex]

They ruined the movement

The game is still fun sometimes

[lime flame]

It's being addressed! Or they say.. time will only tell

[wise locust]

I don't play seige like because I prefer the older Rainbow Six games, but even I admit its a solid game

just not what I wanted

[somber nest]

There's no real incentive for devs to eliminate ALL the hackers because the measures necessary to truly permanently ban players would also cut them off from those sweet, sweet repeat purchases.

[lime flame]

Facts

[modern apex]

It was objectively better during year 1,2 and 3 though ofc

[modern apex]

You're right

[somber nest]

They can do hardware bans like tons of other games do, but then they'd lose out on cash-cow hackers buying the game 15 times

Gotta pad those numbers

[strong stone]

Good, we need folks like you! The franchise lost its identity with BF2042. Battlefield worked so well before that with classes with restrictions for balancing

[lime flame]

That's the sad part about it. Greed! They have to fill their pockets.

[raw folio]

i think it would great if they make system where hacker players plays with hacker players and nonhacker players with nonhacker players. Im saying this cuz hacking will be available for anyone forever

[somber nest]

2042 isn't ideal but it is entertaining in it's current state. They had some good ideas, like Portal, but definitely a lot of flops.

[lime flame]

Facts

[modern apex]

Definitely overhated

Bfh had good maps

Good gamemodes

[warped jackal]

I only played it for about a week then went back to 4

[somber nest]

I have literally 10 hours in Hardline lol

I played like 40ish in the beta

[warped jackal]

100%

[modern apex]

Real

[lime flame]

Got to go. Creating content for my viewers. Later everyone. Hope everyone here gets a chance at playing the alpha in Battlefield

[somber nest]

Like I said earlier, BFH would've performed much better if it was marketed outsie of the BF franchise.

[raw folio]

and good story line i did play this with ps3 at the time

[wise locust]

BF Hardline's problem is when and how it was released

[modern apex]

Nah the story is trash

[wise locust]

because it was a solid game

[somber nest]

Agreed, though they frustratingly removed the superior vaulting of BFV and peek/lean.

[modern apex]

Tbf you literally said the same thing about bf1 like 10 minutes ago

Bf1 clears hardline even though i like hardline

Exactly

[somber nest]

Naaahhhh being able to crouch run and go supine was great

[modern apex]

Its not mid

[strong stone]

I never even thought of that being Activision's potential reasoning for not handling the hacker situation, but now that you mention it...sounds like classic Activision to me lol

[modern apex]

Charging into battle

Just to get artillery trucked

[strong stone]

hacker jail time

[bitter iris]

how can i play

[modern apex]

That matters

Why would you not want to be immersed

[somber nest]

One of the things BF1 did incredibly well, besides the ambience of the environment, was the raw power the gunplay felt it had.

[raw folio]

lol

[somber nest]

You shoot a rifle and it feels so much more powerful than modern era shooters.

[modern apex]

I strongly disagree

Actually nah i dont

I think thats just what makes the game fun

Artillery trucks are trash though

[odd leaf]

I will hunt and have fun. That's what games are.

[modern apex]

Some of the maps are mid

Not as mid as the bf4 maps though

[blazing dragon]

The cavalry is ridiculous