battlefield-legacy-titles

[tropic folio]

especially when they often have a love hate relationship with those games

[rain hill]

trust me i get that

but sometimes people hate a game but love the way it feels or the way it looks

[solid hinge]

ill be putting bucket in my chair

[rain hill]

thats what i get with battlefield

[willow fern]

yeah I don't get it
I might stick with stuff for a while but they either get boring or take a break from frustrating myself

[flat crypt]

Play what you enjoy but you should try other games

[rain hill]

since bf5 ive hated the series because its not just hit the same as previous titles

but i love it and always will because its one of my favourite fps games

[tropic folio]

i understand, i'm an overwatch player

but still

[solid hinge]

ive played when my ping was so bas i could only depoly mines all game with green charater

[willow fern]

exactly.
I doubt a lot got lucky first time and just happen to love Fortnite or w/e though lol

[rain hill]

eek

[tropic folio]

there are so many games out there, kinda wild to be a gamer and not play a single story game

[rain hill]

hm i dont rly like story games

i like jedi survivor and jedi fallen order

and the old force unleashed games

[quartz siren]

When can i expect email from ea?

[flat crypt]

Kind of a waste of money buying a $500-$700 console or $1k-$6k pc just to play one game for years

[rain hill]

story games nowadays just arent that great

[full sky]

Alguém Brasileiro aí?

[tropic folio]

in the coming weeks

[solemn epoch]

I honestly have paid almost full price for certain games and decided to drop them quick and wait, then replay months or years later

[tropic folio]

tbh this is just not true

even ignoring indies

[rain hill]

i mean from my pov

[tropic folio]

multiplayer games are the ones getting insanely oversaturated and recycled

[rain hill]

i havent liked most the games that have been released recently

[tropic folio]

fair i guess

[rain hill]

i miss spoke

[random blade]

Even battlefield feels more like it gets on my nerves than something I actually enjoy

[rain hill]

i know a lot of them are probably amazing games

but just not my type of games

[random blade]

Me neither, you aren’t alone there

[long valley]

so just curious, which is the most played battlefield

[tropic folio]

i'm starting to feel like that with most pvp shooters honestly, singleplayer is just way more relaxing

[long valley]

5 or 2042?

[solemn epoch]

The only multiplayer I did that for was 2042 tho, because it was definitely better years later than on release... But I'm glad i enjoyed BF3 and beyond releases... More people more maps more game modes being played etc

[rain hill]

i like idle games

[solid hinge]

im not a gamer, just battlefield

[flat crypt]

Including indie games? People tend to only play what’s really popular

[rain hill]

but im too competitive rly for story games lmao

[tropic folio]

V

[solemn phoenix]

tsk tsk tsk

[willow fern]

I was gonna guess BF1

[long valley]

thanks for letting me know. I just realized that this server is 2042? (written so small in the thumbnail)

[solid hinge]

play till its too shit then get stuck on a game till they inprove it

[long valley]

and I play battlefield V now

[tropic folio]

this is for all battlefield games

[flat crypt]

Do you play games on your phone?

[long valley]

thankfully. again, thanks!

[solid hinge]

tensor u prick your killed me heaps

[long valley]

wut

wait did we played in the same lobby now?

idk

[solid hinge]

name seems like i have done alot of dieing

[long valley]

I had like 15 kills

[tropic folio]

close

[solid hinge]

i die alot

[rain hill]

bf1 was so peak man...

[random blade]

More people signed up for playtests than playing bf fr

[orchid ridge]

IMHO Battlefield 4 was the best it ever was. Then it became to color saturated and the mechanics changed after Battlefield 1 for the worse.

[solid hinge]

hahaha hows then hours

[long valley]

This is my 2nd pvp game, the first being POLYGON, apparently the developer of POLYGON is a fan of battlefield, so started playing this game too

[rain hill]

oh dear

polygon

[long valley]

but tbh battlefield is chaotic af

[willow fern]

stands to reason we all want to play 'a' BF, but not 'the' BF's available
(or they are too dead/quiet to play for us now)

[long valley]

polygon is relaxing to me tbh. I still need to learn the ways of B5

[solid hinge]

start on the 6 pounder

[rain hill]

i played polygon at release

was fun

got boring quick tho

[random blade]

I’ve turned back to Titanfall 2 so that’s understandable

[solid hinge]

relaxing blowing the crap out of a check point

[long valley]

polgyon is fun to me, but it doesn't have asian server, so gameplay was too much unfair, so here I am, where I can play with a nearest server

[solemn epoch]

bF4 improved a lot upon 3 but I'd say the maps were overall better before, and melee was objectively worse

BF 1 and V are beautiful tho

[solid hinge]

yeah they are just need new maps

[willow fern]

I want to surf OASIS again by blowing holes so deep in the ground that you can get the jetskis in

[flat crypt]

I hope the new bf has ray tracing and hdr support

[solid hinge]

bf1 was painful with slow tanks ect\

[long valley]

@solid hinge is it possible we become frens in in-game

[willow fern]

C4 the ground so low it's below the water table

[long valley]

idk how tho

[solid hinge]

i dont friend i got enough friends /3

[tropic folio]

why would you wish for ray tracing in a multiplayer game

[long valley]

hah

ok

[random blade]

Denied, goodness me

[solid hinge]

ill come and team up if i c u

[solemn gazelle]

fr

[flat crypt]

Bfv has it so I don’t see why that’s a bad thing

[solid hinge]

beacon n smoke with a revive if u like

[solemn gazelle]

Any news abt LABS

?

[tropic folio]

because it's completely unnecessary and will only bog down performance

[flat crypt]

If you can get a consistent 60fps then I don’t see an issue

[tropic folio]

2042 had ray traced ao, which was just a waste of time and made performance worse for next to no visual improvement

[random blade]

As long as it’s not forced, fair game

[solemn epoch]

But I need at least 471 fps

[tropic folio]

good luck getting 60 with ray tracing if optimisation is anything like 2042

[solid hinge]

new battlefeild will be spiritual

[solemn epoch]

Should be better if it's really 64 p again

[solemn gazelle]

Bruh, its a shooter how do you even think of 60fps thats madly bad

[flat crypt]

2042 optimization got better over time

[tropic folio]

mfs settling for 60fps in an online shooter is why games run like shit lmao

[solid hinge]

my monitor out clocks the ps5

[tropic folio]

do you want to wait years for bf6 to be well optimised?

[solid hinge]

Predator monitor

[tropic folio]

it's just a silly request, out of all the things we could ask for

[solemn epoch]

Maybe he plays console

[tropic folio]

oh yeah that's a whole other issue

[random blade]

120 or bust

[solemn gazelle]

has to be 120hz for an online shooter

ps5 standard

[tropic folio]

i suppose console is used to subpar performance

[solid hinge]

my computer died and i travel so ps5\

ps5 is 60 i think

[solemn epoch]

They're lucky if they keep 60 fps so they just want it to be prettier

[random blade]

Wanting recoil to not be bugged would be a nice start

[flat crypt]

The way games are made these days it probably won’t be that well optimized but as long as I can run it at 60 with my 4090 I’m straight regardless how long it takes

[solemn epoch]

Ok NVM he's just insane

[solemn gazelle]

fidelity mode, u can chage it in soe games to 120hz but I think i cant mention those

[tropic folio]

holy low expectations lmfao

this has to be bait

[solid hinge]

as long as we get it before a war or comit stops the show

[solemn gazelle]

ofc

[solemn epoch]

Its ragebait

[solemn gazelle]

wth

[flat crypt]

I never raise my expectations for games to the highest you’ll always be let down some form of way

[solemn gazelle]

true

[solid hinge]

cant help it so excited

[tropic folio]

there's a difference between managing expectations and being satisfied with poorly optimised games

60 fps on a 4090 is poor optimisation unless you're playing cyberpunk on psycho settings

[solemn gazelle]

i woud wait 5 years if its neccesary for a good game

[flat crypt]

If it runs at a consistent 60fps how could it be poorly optimized

[solid hinge]

i was coding in 1982 with Atari

[orchid ridge]

I personally don’t care about pretty I want functionality. Back to the roots.

[solemn gazelle]

13 if we tak about that oone

[orchid ridge]

Minus the day one problems

[tropic folio]

because you're on a 4090. If it barely hits 60 for you how do you think it's going to run for the other 95% of players?

[flat crypt]

Idk not my problem 😆

[tropic folio]

lol yeah ofc you don't care

[solemn epoch]

[solemn gazelle]

We all Know that will happen thats why LABS is here for

[tropic folio]

good thing 4090 users are rare

[solemn gazelle]

3060 are the common user

[tropic folio]

most useless anecdotal evidence ever

[flat crypt]

I’m pretty sure 5090 users are more rare these days

[tropic folio]

4090 users make up less than 1% of steam players lol

[solemn gazelle]

mayb cuz u move around around people that can afford that kinda things

[orchid ridge]

It has to run smooth on console either way or it will be bad for the franchise.

[tropic folio]

7900 xtx players make up less than 0.5%

at least try to fact check yourself

lots of empathy going around today

again, very glad you people aren't common

[solemn gazelle]

this bait as hell

[random blade]

Forget evolving graphics, just go back to bf4’s technical fidelity and give me 400fps

[solid hinge]

ok nite nite

[solemn epoch]

Just because you play with 10 people who happen to have decent updated computers doesn't mean you know anything about what the average player uses

[solemn gazelle]

Its that hard? Im asking fr

[tropic folio]

60 class cards are still the majority by a huge margin, people just choose to be ignorant

[flat crypt]

I’m pretty sure anyone can save $2k in two years

[tropic folio]

weak bait

go home

[solemn epoch]

BF4 still looks great today you're right

[flat crypt]

Idk what you’re talking about

[solemn epoch]

What are you trying to prove with this? I have money so i must spend it on 4090 to play at 60 fps with ray tracing?

[solemn gazelle]

I compare the running animation from old battlefield games against 2042 and i feell a heavy donwgrade tbh

[tropic folio]

i miss having defined silhouettes for each class

you could tell at a glance what someone was carrying

[flat crypt]

Just making a statement that it’s possible for anyone to get a higher end gpu

[solemn epoch]

Yea don't forget we were able to dive! There were waves dynamic weather storms etc

[tropic folio]

maybe if they don't eat

[solemn epoch]

Not even going to argue on this, there's no point...

[solemn gazelle]

And u see nowadays how the thing goes, ore focused in the skin store than the core of the game XD

[random blade]

Tbf every game is trying to copy 2019’s animation style now. Practically every animation channel I watch is trying to replicate it

[orchid ridge]

Delta force is closer to what battlefield should be.

[solemn gazelle]

Thats the game u want?

[flat crypt]

I mean why would you want to anyway some people are just bad with their money 🤷🏽‍♂️

[orchid ridge]

Cod skins are ridiculously stupid

[solemn gazelle]

So u want another bf2042 incident then, Do u rllly llike battllefield?

[solemn epoch]

How?

[flat crypt]

I never buy the skins on cod waste of money

[solemn gazelle]

No more operators, classic class mode, more serius ambient a mimx between bf 3 and 4 mechanics and bf 1 ambientation like soldiers hard breathing when a nade is near. THAT would be wonderful

[random blade]

Basically the same game. Still got hero characters, still got cringe voice lines, objectives are the same, engagement distances, gadgets, vehicle balance basically all the same. Only real thing it does better is recoil. Only marginally at that

[orchid ridge]

Delta force is what battlefield should be now. Modern multiplayer shooter, class based, with modern mechanics. It’s almost a modernized version of battlefield 4.

[stoic beacon]

Excited for a potential battle royale type mode

[flat crypt]

I’m fine with the gold diamond etc camo

[solemn epoch]

I feel like we underestimate Battlefield when we make certain comparisons..

[flat crypt]

Doesn’t have controller support

[solemn gazelle]

Bruh, I feel bf 2042 as a demake from older bf games

[jaunty sand]

yall see that thing ea shared that showed the classes

support is medic :(

[solemn epoch]

There's a reason why everyone seems to hate every Battlefield game but all of the titles have a huge community xD

And none has come close to the experience yet

[solemn gazelle]

just blue/green-ish allly teamm and black and red eney team. Just that its a good bf game not the Mackay going around 2042

[solemn epoch]

I have played it and just disagree.. didn't feel quite right specially the gunplay and movement

[willow fern]

ok so
I swore I remembered some video of people Surfin' OASIS in BC2 but couldn't find the video for ages
well here it is, on Wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190815082547/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aYp5-WpqJw

Give me ground deformation that gets that low and that's one tickbox down

[jaunty sand]

i like playinn medic n if i need to use an lmg imma be upset

[flat crypt]

Why would you be forced to play lmg

[jaunty sand]

wondering what assault is gonna b able to do tho coz their icon doesnt rly mean much

[random blade]

Depends how they want the team to be structured, but for medic I would assume smg or carbine. Just makes the most sense

[orchid ridge]

All I’m saying is veteran Battlefield players want the next Battlefield to go back to its roots. I don’t care if it looks pretty.

[jaunty sand]

coz support was locked to lmgs for bf1 and 5 so im wondering if theyll do it agai

[willow fern]

I think BC2 was the last to force medics to have LMG's
and even then you got the G3 assault rifle if you ground out all the gear, or a shotgun, or the M14

[solemn epoch]

Carbine for medic sounds about right ye

[willow fern]

That was also when Assault had ammo instead of revive/health

[orchid ridge]

My best memories was bc2 and bf4

[willow fern]

Same

I still play them both now

[jaunty sand]

wondering if support is gonna have ammo and health

[flat crypt]

Since it’s modern it probably won’t be locked

[solemn epoch]

Idk why i joined this discord makes me wanna play battlefield

[willow fern]

I'm sure some of us still play 🤣

[jaunty sand]

it do be the battlefield server

[minor matrix]

Imagine Battlefield but in near future.

[jaunty sand]

[flat crypt]

Ww3

[willow fern]

3 and 4 were literally this

[solemn gazelle]

For example, in the finals u have 3 classes, and u can make different variation in each class that makes the gameplay feel different from each class but they are the same 3 classes. A sistem like that but with 4 or 5 classes for battlefied can be good Assault, Medic, Engineer, Support and Recon

[orchid ridge]

Battle 3 came and went to fast for me to remember. 3 and 4 should have been combined.

[willow fern]

Ironically the finals are a load of ex Dice Devs

[jaunty sand]

2042s idea was cool but executed poorly

[minor matrix]

Yk, they could make it BF2042

[craggy beacon]

Battlefield 4 on PlayStation store is on discount for 1.99 because it’s on

[solemn gazelle]

Thats why, but the devs back them wanted to copy cod without being cod, and thats bf2042 rn

[jaunty sand]

yall think bf6 is gonna be this year or nah

[solemn gazelle]

FR FR

[flat lichen]

Only part of 2042 I actually liked were flying the jets (way better than 4) and 128 players honestly. I’ve always wondered what bf4 would be like with 100+ players inside of operation locker long before 2042 came.

[jaunty sand]

128 players sucked bc it made them design maps around that many players which made them bad

[solemn gazelle]

Thats in the older gaes, u can let heavy firearms for assault and some les powered firears for Medics cuz they can INSTA res

[alpine badge]

it's a clusterfuck for sure

[willow fern]

64 was perfectly fine

[jaunty sand]

50 vs 50 is as high as it should go imo

[alpine badge]

100 players is basically a clusterfuck if everyone would be fighting

[orchid ridge]

Agreed too many players

[flat lichen]

128 is a bit much maybe, but 100 might be the sweet spot. The natural evolution of battlefield in my eyes in increased player counts. Many bf4 maps would work with 100 players like the dlc maps

[jaunty sand]

ye 100 could be cool

[willow fern]

Planetside 2 already has the large super battle numbers covered, stick to what works
At least before a 32 v 64 split was for console constraints, but now that's not relevant so simply making it larger and larger is a gimmick

[solemn gazelle]

64p Maps based, Conquer mode with 128 map expansion , a CTD in a certain areas of the maps like bf4 U dont need anything more, every player will be happy

[jaunty sand]

64 was the sweet spot though

[alpine badge]

if it's a conquest game, half won't be able to take a tank

except those who are quick enough

as usual

[knotty lily]

128 players is a bad thing; anything above 64 players feels overwhelming because there is no sense of power. As an individual, you can't influence the game meaningfully.

[jaunty sand]

40vs40 could be cool too

[willow fern]

I remember playing the BF3 DLC on '360 with 32 players, the maps fucking sucked because they were ginormous and you couldn't find anyone 🤣

[orchid ridge]

Then they can repair the tank

[alpine badge]

only if they do repair the tank

[flat lichen]

Na the action is spread out too much in any map larger than siege of Shanghai in my opinion

[jaunty sand]

shanghai is shit anyways thats a poor comparison

[solemn gazelle]

Thats why we need a form of killstreak in this new bf game, if u play the objetives or kill lots of people you will be abe to get points of it, the more points u have the better vehicles u can take, that a way to sort that not enough vehicle problem

[jaunty sand]

killstreaks aw hell nah

[willow fern]

nah
that leads to steamrolling

[jaunty sand]

squadstreaks are fine

or whatever they were called

slight buffs to the capibility of ur soldier

[willow fern]

and some heli sweats doubling down on being a pain in the arse because then they have streaks too

[orchid ridge]

That’s why that class should be rewarded to do so. If not then what’s the point of being support

[willow fern]

the BF4 ones with the little buffs? they were decent

[solemn gazelle]

What steammrolling means fella?

[willow fern]

not overpowered, but very useful for teamplay

[jaunty sand]

i feel like vehicles in general shouldnt be able to count towards a killstreak if they decide to do em

[willow fern]

https://tenor.com/view/steamroller-flattened-frogger-arcade-cartoon-gif-3947370806596607199

[flat lichen]

Sunken Dragon then would be a better example. Perfect size for 64, but it still lacks that grand scale that maps like Caspian border have but is held back by 64 players leaving many parts of the map lacking action.

[willow fern]

your team vs a team with immense killstreaks/extra vehicles, etc

[orchid ridge]

Agreed

[jaunty sand]

i mean every map is always gonna have objectives with more fighting than the others

[solemn gazelle]

It depends if we have verticality why would that happen? Better yet, SquadStreaks like the guys are saying can be a good thing tho

[willow fern]

squadstreaks aren't the same though

[jaunty sand]

bf5s squadstreaks were pretty cool

[solemn gazelle]

I know but if its for objetives instead of kills it eill noot be that chaotic

[flat lichen]

I know but maps like Caspian border, gulf of Oman, and pearl market in bf4 would be soooo good with 100 players

[willow fern]

killstreaks enrich a single player and only further that individual (CoD)
squadstreaks enhance the abilities your classes already have (i.e. an extra ammo box, slightly better suppression) that help your squad and the team as a whole

[prime pine]

Cue squad reinforcements from bf5 which could give you a tank, a rocket, smoke, arty or supplies.

Through actual squadplay.

[solemn gazelle]

Yeah i want that

[willow fern]

yeah that's bf4

but you got it for squad organisation (orders for capping flags and reviving teammates), not killing people

PTFO

[faint yacht]

can i ask u guys, how is online charts in bf4?

[solemn gazelle]

but we talking about how to solve lack of vehicles in 128 vs 128

[willow fern]

simply don't have 128

[flat lichen]

So bf5 call ins? 🤨 that was all fun for the squad leader, not for everyone else. Give everyone those call ins and it’ll be a mess

[willow fern]

nah I'm thinking BF4

[prime pine]

Through squad reinforcements you could accelerate earning stuff through orders and killing enemies on the points.

[willow fern]

everyone on the squad got the bonus

[flat lichen]

Commander mode

[solemn gazelle]

I know but u think they ill back up that
?ç

[willow fern]

nope

[willow fern]

^

[prime pine]

Not gonna lie the squad tanks were busted.

Sturmtiger was so good.

[willow fern]

not cmd mode, there was squad bonuses, not an extra vehicle or rocket or w/e

[prime pine]

With actual gunners and shit it was super reliable.

[jaunty sand]

ye those were squad scorestreaks and bf4s were squad field upgrades

[rotund remnant]

depends from map to map

[willow fern]

that's the one, thanks for the name

[shadow plinth]

Not gotten any email yet.

[jaunty sand]

ye theyre kinda forgotten about tbh

[willow fern]

squad field upgrades were fine and you and your squad simply had to play good

[flat lichen]

Right. They are a little pointless in bf4, I got almost 1.5k hours in that game and never pay any attention to them besides maybe extra rockets and extra mines for the engineer

[jaunty sand]

as a medic i love bein able to instantly fullrub my defibs with them

[prime pine]

Hardline perks were good because they made a massive difference.

[solemn gazelle]

thats way we need a sort of soution for that kind of scenarios

[jaunty sand]

[willow fern]

honestly if people paid attention to them more, you could easily turn tides in games with them

[flat lichen]

Good for operation locker 24/7 yeah lol

[prime pine]

We will never get 256 players in battlefield. Not any time soon.

[shadow plinth]

I applied for a playtest and my available time is in 1hr 42mins but I've not received an email yet.

[willow fern]

I always end up being the squad lead because no one does any orders and then they are surprised we're losing a CQ match as headless chickens

[jaunty sand]

i havent gotten an email from ea at all

[prime pine]

I just take squad leader because no one else fucking does it.

[solemn gazelle]

mme neither

[jaunty sand]

thats y getting top squad in like every match in bf5 is easy if u got just 1 friend with u

[flat lichen]

An engineer with extra mines is highly underrated lol. You can lock down an entire area keeping average tank drivers and sneaky quad bikes out

[prime pine]

Same case in bf5. No one uses the squad leader shit.

It's why i always ended up taking it.

[solemn gazelle]

I loved to be squad leader in bf4

[willow fern]

If no one is using squads for anyhting more than a walking spawn point, damn man I think the players are wrong lol

Even BF3 made em a bit useful with the orders

[flat lichen]

If you get a good squad in bf4 that actually listens to the squad leader commands, it’s a ton of fun

[willow fern]

BF4 perfected that squad coordination side imo

[solemn gazelle]

FR

[willow fern]

You could ignore it and be a grunt, but the odd 'hey, attack this/defend that' worked so well

[shadow plinth]

BF2042 has no single player campaign right?

[viscid locust]

No

Not that I remember anyway

[mint lance]

it doesnt

[solemn gazelle]

I just know that this is the last bullet battlefield have, if they miss this one anything will be or feel like the G(old) games jst sayin

[willow fern]

that or they'll pivot to some other nonexistent audience

[jaunty sand]

cant wait for the santa support skin

[solemn gazelle]

Battlefied Rivals 🤡

[willow fern]

BF's campaigns were pretty positively reviewed iirc. I didn't play 1 or V but I hear about them a lot.
Even if the multiplayer wasn't ideal, the campaigns were remembered

2042 doesn't have even a campaign to remember lol

[jaunty sand]

fr tho give us bf5s customization for this next game while keeping class identity

[flat lichen]

Same for me. I’ll probably always play bf4 and bf1 until the servers shut down, but if I see the goofy player skins and tactical sprint nonsense again I’m not even going to give it a shot

[solemn gazelle]

I played BC2, Bf4 and BF1 capaings they are good

[jaunty sand]

bf4s campaign is not that good imo

plus its buggy as fuck

[willow fern]

I've heard BF4's campaign is so-so, but man it's a lot better than whatever shite they do now lol

and it was fun at least

[flat lichen]

I beat all 3 endings for all the multiplayer guns, it’s alright. Only the underwater section is buggy af

[jaunty sand]

i can understand them not wanting to use resources on campaigns tho since most people play battlefield for MP

[solemn gazelle]

I rlly tired of that kinda stuff, If they know that just remaking bf4 mixing it with bf3, and bf1 atmosphere they won. So close and so far at the samme time

[willow fern]

A shame because then if the MP sucks, the game is dead

[jaunty sand]

i mean if the mp sucks regardless if the campaign is good its dead

[willow fern]

BC2 has it's multiplayer officially killed, but I can still play the campaign

[flat lichen]

I actually enjoyed it. Some of the missions are pretty fun, and there’s some iconic lines in there. “Tick tock fuck heads get going”

[jaunty sand]

major greenland my wife

[willow fern]

it deffo has it's moments

[jaunty sand]

tf are these, cocktail guns?

[solemn gazelle]

What do u think they showed us in the first teaser?

[willow fern]

"We need to get back to our carrier ma'am"
'Oh fuck, did you fall off?'

[willow fern]

janky prerender

[jaunty sand]

i always forget the dude from bf3 died in bf4s campaign too

[solemn gazelle]

init?

Like souless

[willow fern]

There's a lot of hype of course but I won't care until the game comes out and I can actually get a feel for it

But I'm not the one those ads are for

[minor matrix]

Hype for 10 sec scripted gameplay

[willow fern]

isn't it just

[jaunty sand]

if i get a shot at the early playtest i can get a real opinion of it

[flat lichen]

bf3 and bf4 setting, aesthetic and gunplay, bf1 atmosphere, and bf5 movement will literally be the greatest battlefield of all time. With a 50v50 mode and bringing back old classic maps that have already been perfected 😎

[brave notch]

cheers to a new battlefield to bring us back and bring new people in.

[willow fern]

Bring back Wake Island
AGAIN

[minor matrix]

Let's see if they make another rendezook in the trailer.

[wild olive]

Hello warriors

[minor matrix]

Wait, what if they removed jets

[willow fern]

Is it even BF if there isn't a Wake Island somewhere in it at some point

[wild olive]

Did anyone receive an invitation email?

[solemn gazelle]

They have to "copy" The finals destruction system, that would be fun as hell

[solemn gazelle]

They rlly trick lots of people w that

[willow fern]

Hell, just frostbite destruction is fine by me

[solemn gazelle]

nope

[jaunty sand]

the finals destruction is cool but i hope they dont let u level the entire map

[past perch]

I'm praying the next game has first person takedown and as brutal as BF1/V

[willow fern]

please just give me a little complete scorched earth

[wild olive]

I wish it to be more like battlefield 3

[flat lichen]

I want to see pearl market make a return with that destruction shown in the teaser. Gimme that intense urban combat

[obsidian ermine]

a forever love for BF1

[past perch]

Those ones a quite stylish and I like those too. Same with 4

[solemn gazelle]

yeah, Kind of just the outisde part of buildings and omre than 1 levolution in each map

[past perch]

By stylish I mean stabbing them in the neck and pulling out the tag in the same motion

[jaunty sand]

ye 3rd person melees were kinda stupid

[willow fern]

they did that?

christ

[wild olive]

pearl market, grand bazar, seine crossing, noshahr canals haha we want all these

[jaunty sand]

bf1 horse spearing a man was badass

[solemn gazelle]

I rlly hate that, just for show off the nicki minaj skin god damn

[jaunty sand]

ye lmao it was bad

[flat lichen]

bf4 had the best knife animations. But the counter knifing is god awful

[wild olive]

lets not forget the leap of faith we used to do in damavand peak

[jaunty sand]

2042s gameplay in general feels pretty souless and uninspired

[willow fern]

I think Halo Reach is the only game I know that did it well, and that was all new for that series

and they were cold assassinations

[solemn gazelle]

Cuz its a game pointing to sell not to be fun, aaand that happens

[jaunty sand]

its fine for halo since they were always 3rd person anyways

[wild olive]

anyone still playing bf3 or bf4?

[past perch]

Yeah the "quick time event" for that wasn't great. I'm not sure how they could improve it though other than a button mash

[flat lichen]

2042 is all about those goofy operator skins

[jaunty sand]

ye im still trying to get the f2000 in bf4 lol

[willow fern]

BF4 yah

[jaunty sand]

just ditch it all it did was punish the guy that reacted first

[willow fern]

I want to get my M1911 dogtag
I've had it as my most popular sidearm since BC2

[wild olive]

the thing is even if you press the button most of the times you get knifed

[orchid ridge]

Bringing back old maps is great but they need to create new maps that will leave impressions like the old ones. Creativity seems lost these days. Look at cinema.

[wild olive]

we can play at sometimes if you want

[flat lichen]

Button mash contest is better than the inconsistent mess it is now. Sometimes you win and punch the guy in the face and stab him, sometimes he gets a free counter knife kill for simply facing you lol

[willow fern]

👀
If you don't mind EU timings, sure

[wild olive]

sure EU timing, i live in eu hahah

[past perch]

I think it's cos the guy being attacked would have to wait a second for the "press R3" to show up, then it would work.

If you do it too early you lose

[jaunty sand]

ye getting knifed from the front is pretty much a free kill if u just time it correctly

by definition the knifer always loses

[sterile jolt]

Don't be sad, that's just how it works out sometimes

[prime pine]

Counter knife cringe.

[sterile jolt]

Good

[prime pine]

Giving people tags and a free animation from the front is cringe.

[flat lichen]

I’d still take the counter knife over modern melee weapons with set damage numbers

[solemn gazelle]

One guay is pllalying LABS how he did it?

[prime pine]

Ironically if you want a counter knife make it so that melee clashes within a window of swiping.

[jaunty sand]

whipping out an axe and hacking someone to death was wicked dud e

[solid hinge]

pllalying

[prime pine]

Nobody wins and genuinely would be interesting.

[solemn gazelle]

Not my keyboard xd

[sterile jolt]

Counter knifing shouldn't exist honestly

[jaunty sand]

halo sword clash

[prime pine]

Yeah

Actually.

[solemn gazelle]

Bruh, they r soldiers

[prime pine]

That's a very good comparison.

[sterile jolt]

BF1 had counter bayoneting and it was annoying

[jaunty sand]

it was

[willow fern]

fr
best way was to have the little animation for knifing from the back, and then the 'knife slash of shame' from the front where you took your knife out and gave them 50% damage but now you have a knife to a gun fight

[jaunty sand]

bf1 bayonetting in general was the most inconsistent shit ive ever dealt with

i only rly use it to get into cover quicker

[solemn gazelle]

Button smashing from the front (leads to macros), 50% damage from the sides, 100% guaranted kil from the back.

[jaunty sand]

bf1s melee was fine imo

[solemn gazelle]

yeah i liked it

[jaunty sand]

would do dmg and if the final hit was gonna kill them itd do an animation

if it was the front

[solemn gazelle]

yes

[sterile jolt]

I hate 2042's melee

BF1 or 5 had good melee imo

2042's melee is also pay 2 lose for some reason, first animation you start with is the fastest

[jaunty sand]

jeah

[solemn gazelle]

L Coreography

[true fable]

great battlefield experience we're so close to win that night city map to get my codex until the owner changed it to boring repetitive map rotation

[jaunty sand]

your final challenge vote for a dlc map instead of sinai desert

ah hell nah yo ass tweakin jigsaw

[mint lance]

Dear admins will we get the brrrrrrrt itself the plane, the myth, the legend, the A-10 Warthog in BF2025?

[jaunty sand]

if therres an abrams i imagine so

[mint lance]

Hell yea

[long valley]

why am I running slowly all of a sudden in bf5

[alpine badge]

must've ate too much of that C ration

[long valley]

hmmmmm

[exotic tinsel]

are there any dates about the testings

I missed the last event ( it think was about 3 days ago)

[limber bough]

Probably crouch sprinting

[karmic bison]

Omggg!!!!!
https://youtu.be/fKjrj5jRU7Y?si=k3Z1eMaZZmT6pp0J

[exotic tinsel]

that's nice to see

also is this actual gameplay or a cinematic trailer?

[sterile jolt]

Good

[karmic bison]

[sterile jolt]

Honestly just looks in-game

Some assets looks very similar to 2042

[tropic folio]

gameplay

[exotic tinsel]

this feels like bf1 level of atmosphere.

[jaunty sand]

recoiless rpg7 btw

[sterile jolt]

Gameplay will be like BFV if reticle isn't on the center of the screen again

Did they just copy pasted BFV into a new skin or something?

[rough idol]

Hud off gameplay Scripted obv. Bf2042 Trailer was for example just render trailer

[jaunty sand]

i hope so

bf5 gameplay is awesome

[exotic tinsel]

what is your favourite bf game?

[jaunty sand]

favorite is probably 4

[exotic tinsel]

nice

[jaunty sand]

original i know

but bf5s gameplay feels so nice

[exotic tinsel]

it's smoov

[jaunty sand]

yr

[abstract kindle]

this pre-alpha gameplay its not render?

[jaunty sand]

ye

[copper minnow]

dice cancelling bfv was one of their biggest mistakes

[celest stirrup]

BfV sucked

[abstract kindle]

u know, like cyberpunk 2077 pre-alpha gameplay from E3

[tropic folio]

would be a bit silly for them to make a render look like gameplay, then show it off like gameplay instead of just showing us the actual pre alpha gameplay that we'll be playing in a few weeks

[jaunty sand]

[tropic folio]

that was also gameplay, just of a vertical slice rather than the actual state of the game at that point

[jaunty sand]

agree

[copper minnow]

bfv gameplay is objectively the best in the series tho

[abstract kindle]

ok thx 🙂

[celest stirrup]

Nahhhh BF2 was the best in the series 100%

[tropic folio]

100% agreed, they nailed the feel

[copper minnow]

idk man it has random bullet deviation

[abstract kindle]

couse if will be look that in pre-alpha idk for what will be beta xD ;p

sry for bad eng ;p

[jaunty sand]

i hope the animations get smoothened out a bit coz they look kinda stuff

[celest stirrup]

EA right now has the power to make this new BF amazing, they just need to listen to the fan base

[abstract kindle]

but, if we get that emotions like in this "gameplay" well, its gonna be special

[tropic folio]

dice

[copper minnow]

bfv bullet goes where u actually aim tho, visual recoil is better compared to bf1 as well but yes the guns have stronger actual recoil

[willow fern]

I'm not gonna be one of those mad frame be frame red circlers, but this alpha footage is 2 months old

huh, I can't post images here

[jaunty sand]

recoil can be controlled lol

[abstract kindle]

just Dice need to talk and hear us, us i mean players and testers like us, if this gonna be complete, we are in home

[jaunty sand]

losing gunfights to random bullet spread is horeshit

[celest stirrup]

Haha yes dice you are right although its been multiple studios and what not

[copper minnow]

real

[celest stirrup]

Do we know when the invites will be sent out?

[jaunty sand]

na

h

[tropic vortex]

[abstract kindle]

nope, i think monday or another day

[copper minnow]

italy faction along with monte cassino was planned to be added, alongside soviet union as well but bfv ends in chapter 6

[willow fern]

https://i.imgur.com/UDJrxdZ.png

[celest stirrup]

but it says the play test is on the 6th and 7th of Feb did it not?

[jaunty sand]

not if its random

[worthy sapphire]

quick question, is the BFV cheater problem still horrible on PC right now? (Europe region) or can i avoid it by simply joining private servers?

[tropic folio]

in the coming weeks

[jaunty sand]

ur tweakin bruh

[copper minnow]

yea bfv doesn't have that, guns in bfv have spray pattern (tap shooting feels 100x better because shots are always accurate)

[pearl kindle]

you will surely get the karkland

[jaunty sand]

oh u lose a gunfight bc a couple bullets decided to go where my aim wasnt even at nah bro ur jusr spraying like a noob

[abstract kindle]

eu region - dice official servers - clean from cheats, maybe 2 or 3 i saw in last week. but its much much better when new anticheat arrives

[wicked canyon]

it feels flashy, like I get some BF3 E3 demo vibes but at the same time it could just be smoke and mirrors. I wish they could just stop the bullshottery and us a straight experience.

A lot of people scoff at the idea that BF2 was the "best" game because it's old, antiquated graphics etc, but the core mechanics did work and it made you play together. You didn't HAVE to be tactical but the game rewarded it. This is what Battlefield should do. Reward intelligent play

[celest stirrup]

Like the email I got literally said 6th feb to 7th feb NA at home play test

[wicked canyon]

also fix EAC for linux DICE you lazy b@stards

its not hard

other companies have

[abstract kindle]

cletus u mail to dice admins about this?

[rough idol]

The Moment Labs is being kicked off there will be more to see. 😂

[jaunty sand]

u cant even here how dumb that sounds and u agree lmao

[wicked canyon]

I use a Steam Deck as my daily driver PC but can no longer play Battlefield 1

[sterile jolt]

Play on community servers, official servers will have cheaters, one in every match

[worthy sapphire]

when the new anticheat arrives? theyre planning on such a thing?:))

anyway thanks for thr answer, i had some spare euros on my steam account and saw bfv at a steal, installing it rn

[wicked canyon]

so they introduced an anti cheat that doesnt work and broke the game for linux players

[jaunty sand]

i can spell

[wicked canyon]

nice

[jaunty sand]

nothing i spelt was incorrectly done so

[tropic folio]

lmao

[copper minnow]

because its a proper shooting game, the random recoil pattern added with the spray is just to encourage tap shooting more at longer distances (this also applies to other fps games like counter strike)

[wicked canyon]

might as well just say "bend over boys uncle microsoft needs to probe your rectum with win11"

[tropic folio]

me when i'm so wrong i don't even realise i'm wrong

[jaunty sand]

ur just slinging stupidity my dude

[abstract kindle]

i think u wrong about cheats every match, i dont saw everyday ;p its better than before

[worthy sapphire]

I mean its pretty well known game companies dont care about linux

[sterile jolt]

It's the modern gaming, cheaters will always adapt, so you have to update your anti cheat constantly

[willow fern]

anti-cheat, doesn't

[wicked canyon]

but its possible to have anti cheat that isnt broken for linux

[frosty linden]

when do we expect to get emails about battlefield labs

[worthy sapphire]

and i doubt this tradition will change any time soon

[tropic folio]

why would they care when linux players make up like 1% of the playerbase

realistically it's a drop in the ocean for them

[worthy sapphire]

some people already did

[wicked canyon]

why not? if it doesnt really cost them to support it why not

[abstract kindle]

cheats always be, sinse 2000 in cs 1.3 xD multi without cheaters its not multi xD

[wicked canyon]

Valve LITERALLY gave them the tools to make EAC compatible with Proton

[willow fern]

it costs them enough for them not to care

[frosty linden]

what about testing so we can play. i signed up like 2 days ago

[wicked canyon]

Developers have to do nothing EXCEPT make exceptions for Proton users

[tropic folio]

time, money, resources, whatever reason they obviously decided it wasn't worth the effort

[wicked canyon]

and yet they'll promote the game as "deck verified" - it's just a crappy thing to do to people who own your game

[worthy sapphire]

well...they make up 1% of the playerbase because people cant play on linux comfortably. if it was supported im sure a lot of people would rather use linux

[wicked canyon]

Honestly its a chicken and egg issue

[tropic folio]

eh i dunno about that

[willow fern]

Nah, it's just a lazy corporate greed issue but that's everywhere

[copper minnow]

yes but its way harder to know when you should stop shooting so that the random bullet deviation resets. in bfv the bullet always goes wherever you're aiming so shooting continuously feels much better and you'll know when to stop before the recoil gets stronger

[tropic folio]

how much of the average gamer demographic even has the knowhow to use something other than windows

[abstract kindle]

in old times Dice had admins to secure and check servers, now bot do this job but.. its not that effective like humans (i think)

[worthy sapphire]

have patience my friend, most of us barely have a chance of being accepted. they said the testing will start "in the coming weeks" whatever that means

[tropic folio]

i agree it shouldn't be deck verified

[wicked canyon]

So, unless anyone disagrees.... some core features that should be in the next Battlefield:
-Solid gunplay - eg BF1 and BFV (from what I hear it was decent?)
-Anti cheat that is compatible with Linux / Proton (which Valve will support to be fair)
-Rewarding intelligent play over incentivising personal glory and kills. Objective gains etc.
-Commander and squad lead function - it's not mandatory but let people have this, it costs nothing to implement
-Combined arms - class infantry + vehicles
-Reuse Battlefield Portal? That seemed like a great underutilised idea that doesn't deserve to die with Battlefield 2042
-Community run servers

[alpine badge]

deadass the gameplay does feel like Battlefield

[tropic folio]

i'd rather they forget portal and put all their efforts into the core game

[willow fern]

what is solid gunplay
I mean as devils advocate
It's like saying good netcode and not having a clue what that entails

[wicked canyon]

A few years down the line

[alpine badge]

the movement, they're not trying to be the worst element of cod thsi time

[wicked canyon]

Responsive movement and aim mechanics. Bullet trajectory that doesnt horribly drop 25m aaway across the map

[worthy sapphire]

i doubt the server browser will come back. AAA companies want to alienate players and use "skill based matchmaking"

[willow fern]

that's like all BF (unless they buggered it lately)

[wicked canyon]

I mean to be honest at this point I wonder if its better for Battlefield to just die... and then something spring off elsewhere

[willow fern]

You could do crossmap rifle kils with a decent eye in older games

[worthy sapphire]

i guess. i dont think its impossible for some passionate bf veterans to create a clone thats actually good. (itll take a long time tho)

[wicked canyon]

EA won't allow it but I mean... Battlebit was a really good example of what the same formula could do. Granted, that started as a tactical game but it had a good balance, class infantry + vehicle combat, helicopter rappelling etc, destruction mechanics that were practical

[wicked canyon]

See above

[worthy sapphire]

i havent played battlebit but from what ive seen it feels that it was made to become more of a gimmick than a long standing multiplayer video game

[abstract kindle]

i remember fuc.... noclip cheaters from out of the map and headshotting everyone from campain weapon

[copper minnow]

every battlefield has randomness to their gameplay, bfv just did it the best with not depending too much on rng for their gunplay

[willow fern]

BF is always stuck straddling between arcadey shooters like CoD, now Fortnite/PUBG, and milsims like ArmA, Squad, Gunner HEAT!, etc

[wicked canyon]

the update pipeline died down because it was a small team (like 1 guy and then he had 2 others helping)

And it became a victim of its own success

[copper minnow]

other battlefield games gunplay has the chance for bullets to miss despite you pointing straight at the enemy

[wicked canyon]

It's still played, but I think people have accepted that it peaked in 2023

[willow fern]

the real complaints seem to come when they get too arcadey, rather than too milsimmy (since they never get that far that side anyway)

[worthy sapphire]

yeah but, had they made it more "complete" from the start maybe ....things could have gone down differently

[wicked canyon]

the thing is I feel for them, because I am the kind of person who leans more towards the Rising Storm / Red Orchestra style of gameplay, like not run and gun campaign but at the same time not logistic level hard realism

[worthy sapphire]

1k players 24hour peak....worse playercounts than fighting games lol

[wicked canyon]

a balance of freeform / arcade and realistic gunplay

Rising Storm 2 Vietnam imo is one of the better milsim games out there

and better than battlefield

[copper minnow]

because you're not pointing at them, stop shooting and realign your sight

[willow fern]

oh shit yeah Rising Storm
forgot about that one

[worthy sapphire]

you cant compare rising storm 2 with battlefield man...

[wicked canyon]

TENNO HEIKA BANZAI

boom

[willow fern]

I prefer BC2's Vietnam though

[worthy sapphire]

completely different games

[abstract kindle]

xDDD

[wicked canyon]

I loved RS1, spent so many hours with knee mortars

[worthy sapphire]

its like saying counter strike is better than call of duty

[willow fern]

no one is saying better, but it's how they approach mp shooters

[wicked canyon]

Yeah, Red Orchestra and Rising Storm are not Battlefield... but the approach was better.

[rough idol]

Atleast Portal will have sb.

[wicked canyon]

They emphasised gameplay over flashy BS

[willow fern]

BF was supposed to be a 'CoD killer' once
so was Medal of Honour

[abstract kindle]

counter-strike is pioneer in shotting fps one of them

[worthy sapphire]

what i mean is: bf is more of a sandbox, arcadey and grounded military franchise

rising storm is almost milsim levels of difficulty

[wicked canyon]

it's like when people say "bring levolution back" - what does levolution actually bring to the table?

I thought they had a decent balance, you could drag bodies and revive and heal them, lean around corners etc - that wasnt bad

[rough idol]

Moh 2010 was best. Usmc vs Taliban in alpha.

[worthy sapphire]

cool moments to showcase on youtube at launch for some bonus sales ;)

[willow fern]

urgh not leveloution
Give me BC2 moon surface after a long battle

[wicked canyon]

Levolution is just flashy. It's expensive scripted showcase of stuff, doesn't really change the gameplay

[abstract kindle]

recoil is hard to "setting" if u want realistic

[wicked canyon]

It's a waste of dev resources

[worthy sapphire]

waste?

[willow fern]

At least in BC2 you could actually deny roads, bomb out yourself a dugout

[worthy sapphire]

i wouldnt call it waste

[copper minnow]

tap fire then, it feels way better in bfv as well like i explained earlier

[wicked canyon]

Don't get me wrong, a level like shanghai with a skyscraper you can demolish is useful

but at the same time, it shouldnt be the core gimmick of the game

[rough idol]

Technically. Lancang dam Was useless. Shanghai less tower campers

[worthy sapphire]

its just a bonus for the immersion and cool stuff than can happen in a match

[wicked canyon]

Yeah, Shanghai was useful, but the others weren't

[abstract kindle]

waste - its not waste its "only" more job to do

[worthy sapphire]

even little things like the hainan hotel getting fucked up

[willow fern]

I didn't like the pre-scripted demolition parts, but ground deformation and total building collapse ala BC2 was perfect

[worthy sapphire]

just adds a little bit of "shit happening"

[wicked canyon]

I mean I personally would happily snap up a re-release of Battlefield 2142 with the OG netcode issues (caused by moving titans ingame) fixed

[rough idol]

Most were just bruh

[willow fern]

I don't need a skyscraper to fall down, I want a small 2 bed house to collapse

[abstract kindle]

waste is when u emploe workers to create skins for guns...

[copper minnow]

can't wait for battlefield 2242 invasion of kepler 22b...

[wicked canyon]

Battlefield 2143 - Titans and Walkers in the Frostbite engine

Titan mode was an EXCELLENT game mode, if anyone else here ever played 2142, it was so fun

[worthy sapphire]

oh man , skins))) im quite sad that modern gaming basically destroys any sort of hope that a military shooter should have realistic camos and weapon finishes

[willow fern]

jokes on you, landlord sad

[wicked canyon]

I watched my uncle play 2142 a lot and played it myself... it was such a fun gamemode. There was something satisfying room to room fighting through the titans to blow them

[worthy sapphire]

BF4 is nice, even if theyre flashy camos, at least theyre grounded in reality

[willow fern]

Such a shame to hype 2142 with the last BF4 DLC to then get 2042. eurgh, so much hope killed

[abstract kindle]

bf should be bf not tf2 or cs 2 ... dirty war! not a pinky battlefield..

[wicked canyon]

The only problem was Refractor Engine couldn't handle Titan movement in servers, so you had a problem where moving the titans would cause lag. Or some shithead commander would park the titan over a friendly missile silo so it got destroyed

[abstract kindle]

or fashion show

[visual coral]

I do kinda like those camos tho

[wicked canyon]

I still wonder if 2143 was proposed by DICE and shitcanned by EA

like EA shitcanned Dead Space 2 REmake and Dead Space 4

[worthy sapphire]

tell that to the people who say "bfv isnt that bad youre just a hater"

[visual coral]

Tbh Im enjoying battlefield 4 right now before everyone switches over to bf6

[willow fern]

I'm still on BC2

[wicked canyon]

Battlefield 4 is good, I won't deny that, the final end product is great

[willow fern]

When that proper dies I'll go to BF4

[sterile jolt]

Anti tank players should be rewarded

[worthy sapphire]

you will enjoy bf4 until its servers close :)))

[umbral sedge]

if that brings money then no

[worthy sapphire]

nobody will truly quit that game

[visual coral]

I like the maps in bf3

[abstract kindle]

its talk to fans ( i dont know in poland its - talking to people but dont listen and argue u to say that)

[tropic folio]

the reward should be shared too, lots of times i'll get a tank low and someone comes in taking most of the points

[willow fern]

then Venice Unleashed come in and make servers again :)

[rough idol]

Me trying to rezz ppl in bf4 switchin weapons constantly bcuz of bfv/bf2042/df hold F Button for rezz💀

[wicked canyon]

I just think its a massive tragedy that BF4 is the closest we got to a modern BF2, like BF2 with flashy lens flares and gimmicks bolted on

[sterile jolt]

BFV is

[worthy sapphire]

as much as people say "bf3 better than 4"...theres a reason that 4 is still being played to this day and still has a healthy playerbase

[sterile jolt]

Not 4

[wicked canyon]

I never played BFV tbh

[umbral sedge]

W
Also ALL classes should have anti tank weapons

[wicked canyon]

and cant because its not supported on Linux

[wicked canyon]

No

That's what the AT / Engineer class is for

[willow fern]

who tf says that lol
BF4 is improved over 3

[rough idol]

What bf4 movement

[visual coral]

I rezz everybody and end up dying in the process

[abstract kindle]

money is good we know it, but dont be like tf2 or cs2 when its 40% - game 60% - fashion

[worthy sapphire]

a lot of people

[umbral sedge]

C4, AT grenades

[copper minnow]

i used to play BFV with the BF1944 mod, historically accurate flags, no skins, all male soldiers, and other qol changes as well (it worked on multiplayer before EA AC releases)

[sterile jolt]

BF3 still has battlelog unlike 4, of course BF4 will have more players, also better netcode/optimization for modern hardware

[willow fern]

a lot of people are nostalgic and wrong 🤣

[wicked canyon]

I mean you do you with the trans flag... but I am personally fed up of character customisation

its a clown car

[solid hinge]

That's just a stupid idea

[worthy sapphire]

hell, some people still say "actually 2 is the best battlefield"

[umbral sedge]

there's nothing wrong with that
also in tf2 it helps with visibility

[worthy sapphire]

i mean dont get me wrong they were good for the time but

lets be honest

[wicked canyon]

every modern FPS is a clown car of character customisation, dumb patches and rainbow skins

[sterile jolt]

BF3 is still 32 bit afaik

[umbral sedge]

i'm tired of constantly dying to tanks

[visual coral]

I want some of the OG maps like metro, and downtown

[umbral sedge]

Good!

[willow fern]

urgh not metro again

[rough idol]

Thats not movement. 😂 thats just netcode breaking glitch tech

[charred fable]

Think about it, my father only plays BF3, when I asked him if he knew there was 2042. He doesn't know anything about this part at all. He thought the series ended with part 4

[umbral sedge]

also we have ai now so we can just filter out all the swastikas

[worthy sapphire]

also BF3 created the first meatgrinder map and im still mad about it lol

[abstract kindle]

yea its true, tf2 having the strongest community and they know what they want

[lapis ermine]

the close quarter maps they had in BF3 were really good

[willow fern]

Metro was to cater to meatgrinder mindsets, it doesn't even have vehicles in it

[wicked canyon]

I'm not anti trans or LGBT saying the above btw, I hate that every modern FPS and game seems to let you deck out your character into a tacticool ninja or rainbow skinned clown or whatever you want to do. It might work for some games, but it really breaks down the identity a bit.

[lapis ermine]

bring back Karkand

[rough idol]

Yet it glitches ur hitbox. Aside that game has no movement

[worthy sapphire]

i like different playstyles but now when i boot up bf4 i see most of the servers are just locker/metro farms

its sad

[visual coral]

Yea Its a strong community I've played 700 hours of it

[wicked canyon]

its the same reason I dislike the idea of specialists

Karkand slaps tho

[umbral sedge]

Overall BF needs better visibility
In trailers BF1 looks amazing but when you actually play it you can't see anything

[abstract kindle]

i have 2700 hours ;p

[tropic folio]

i'd be happy with immersive cosmetics. Player patches can be whatever though

[worthy sapphire]

i also miss Obilteration ...i fucking loved that mode and now nobody even touches it

[willow fern]

it's maddening because I want to play BF more, but not those shitty maps 24/7

[visual coral]

Or a unicorn like bo6

[sterile jolt]

I want operation metro 2025 in next BF

[umbral sedge]

metro is the worst map

[visual coral]

I want downtown from hardline

[worthy sapphire]

yeah, even RUSH is pretty unpopular now

[solid hinge]

Not it was perfect

[willow fern]

I want Wake Island
Caspian-esque

Karkland 3.0

[charred fable]

Why can’t you add the same plot to the new game, Continuation of Blackburn from BF3?

[abstract kindle]

yea its true, its need to be, when u see trailer u say o my god its fuc... fanstastic, and in game u need feel the same

[sterile jolt]

We need another metro remake Remake metro for every game until series dies lol

[frosty linden]

no. leave soilders nameless and random and gun skins that fit in. instead they should add custom calling cards like in bo3. you can place your flags on there. please not on soilders tho, shit like this ruined 2042

[visual coral]

Operation Locker in bf6?

[worthy sapphire]

whats there to continue?

[visual coral]

Why?

[umbral sedge]

i can't feel fantastic if i'm getting shot out of nowhere

[visual coral]

Ig

[willow fern]

Make Metro and Locker a separate game entirely
Let me have some vehicle maps with mixed combat

[frosty linden]

no. leave soilders nameless and random and gun skins that fit in. instead they should add custom calling cards like in bo3. you can place your flags on there. please not on soilders tho, shit like this ruined 2042

[visual coral]

Yea

[willow fern]

BF4 handled emblems fine imo

[abstract kindle]

sad moment in game ;p and its true, cheaters do this job, and dice need to fix it and repair all of that mistakes

[sterile jolt]

There are vehicle only maps too, why is metro an issue?

[visual coral]

I like how the movement looked in the trailer tho

[worthy sapphire]

i undwrstand the need for infantry maps but the culture of seeing those as the only maps i dont agree with

[sterile jolt]

Panzerstorm might as well be vehicle only

No one is having fun in that map as an infantry

[umbral sedge]

it's not cheaters - it's the visibility
it has nothing to do with skill really

[rough idol]

Makin them oversize changed ur character camo kekw

[worthy sapphire]

how so?

never ecountered that

[rough idol]

Ur upper body took the color u used as Emblem background. U were able to run in full pink or neon green etc colors on ur upper body

[frosty linden]

i know but putting flags and whatever on them makes them stand out which is a no no

[abstract kindle]

camuflage thats we need ;p

[umbral sedge]

Anyway I'm installing BF4

[worthy sapphire]

what game are we talking about

[rough idol]

Bf4

[worthy sapphire]

well i guess they fixed that? because i havent seen anything like that ever lol

[rose siren]

Looks like crouch sprintings returning maybe

[rough idol]

Ye got fixed pretty late tho

[worthy sapphire]

better late than never

[copper minnow]

since bf2025 will have campaign, will it be a sequel to bf4?

[abstract kindle]

what fix? i lost xD

[worthy sapphire]

🥲

[frosty linden]

no you shouldn't be allowed to. they should make custom calling cards like black ops 3

[worthy sapphire]

2042 was a sequel to bf4 :DDD

[frosty linden]

suggestions like this ruined 2042 and made bf5 worse

[sterile jolt]

2042 was that

[copper minnow]

yea but 2025 can still make an intermediate story

[abstract kindle]

bf5 worse my god

[sterile jolt]

2042 was also a sequel to 3 honestly

[frosty linden]

its clearly not the best game in the franchise

[worthy sapphire]

true but, do we really care about bf4s plot

[sterile jolt]

What if PMC in BF6 is Blackburn's Arkangel?

[granite wyvern]

I love BFV

[frosty linden]

thats debatable but id rather not have that ability

[wicked canyon]

It just feels like virtue signalling and distracts from the game.

[worthy sapphire]

also keep in mind bf4 kind of ended with the final stand note

[wicked canyon]

I mean COD is a joke anyway but dammit... BF used to have its core identity and a lot of it was diluted imitating COD

[tropic folio]

i think patches and flags on a soldier's arm should be fine, they're barely visible to other players anyway

[copper minnow]

battlefield 2025 campaign dialogue leak:

"ok tombstone-gang, let's battle this field. together, we are battlefield 2025!"

[worthy sapphire]

therefore bf6 may as well be a god damn bf3 prequel

[abstract kindle]

its experiment like bf1 take game in diffent timeline like original ones

and one love that one hate that

[wicked canyon]

The absolute limit for char customisation IMO is something like Helldivers 2

[worthy sapphire]

"6 countries..... fighting this war.....we are now on battlefield six"

[wicked canyon]

or halo 3 / reach

where you have different armour sets and voices

[frosty linden]

bf1 is the best game in the franchise, bf5 is ok and fun to play but not the best game

[wicked canyon]

male, female, light / dark skin etc

[sterile jolt]

BF5 is better than 1 arguably

[jolly relic]

Bring back more old maps

[granite wyvern]

Better from a gameplay perspective

[wicked canyon]

patches are fine, the problem is you have stupid gun skins and the like which make no sense

[tropic folio]

it's better in every way other than immersion imo

[copper minnow]

"the year is 2025... we are fighting a war... this is truly the war of 2025..."

[sterile jolt]

Yeah, I want another Metro remake

[frosty linden]

true you are right. but customization should not exceed a patch

[tropic folio]

bf1 perfected immersion, bfv perfected gameplay

[granite wyvern]

Yep

[jolly relic]

Need wake island and strike at karkand

[wicked canyon]

also. for the love of good, please stop placing essential equipment behind unlocks. I dont know which genius thought it was a good idea for jets to not come with flares and missiles default

[sterile jolt]

It has less content than 1, BFV still feels unfinished imo

[copper minnow]

BFV feels more like the WW2 DLC of BF1

[frosty linden]

nope

[worthy sapphire]

dont worry, the pre alpha footage is just the portal mode for bf2025. what we are getting is battlefield advanced warfare with jetpacks and obama

[granite wyvern]

Well they did abandon it early

[wicked canyon]

OK, that is fair then

[abstract kindle]

Anothers said about BF1 is the best, anothers said BFV is the best, but all said - this games is better than ...

[frosty linden]

why not a flag from your own country tho

[granite wyvern]

Yep in every sense

[frosty linden]

nah

[willow fern]

• Vehicle only maps also suck (BF3's vehicle oriented DLC sucked for that reason)
• CQC forces bottlenecks.
• Bottlenecks force completely tactical-less gameplay. Your only counter is more explosives, revive-trains, or smoke grenades.
• Flattens gameplay with less dimensions. No flanking, no parachuting over, no breakthrough with tanks or helis. It's literal WWI trench warfare, and not BF1's either.
• You lose extra aspects of BF, like destruction (can't blow up anything in the metro's), teamwork (headless meatgrinding), and sense of accomplishment for overcoming obstacles. You just get a plinking counter to keep the overstimulated mind happy.

I liked the other slightly close-quarter non-grindy maps like Seine, Arica Harbour, Pearl Market(?). They supported ground only vehicles and had infantry focus, but you could actually think about how you wanted to play in those maps as opposed to Metro/Locker's "Do I die in hallway A, B, or C?"

[granite wyvern]

Yeah

[worthy sapphire]

battlefield games are different and should be treated differently

[wicked canyon]

I went on a bit of a rant here... patches and tiny things are OK sometimes but I think customisation needs to be reigned in hard.

[worthy sapphire]

saying a battlefield game is "the best battlefield" is kinda stupid imo

[wicked canyon]

I prefer Halo / Helldivers style of customisation

[tropic folio]

i don't remember which game, i think it was ww3, but it let you choose from a million different patches to go on your arm, it was a great bit of customisation

[abstract kindle]

metro is good map, but when not use OP guns from small rooms like shotguns etc

[rough idol]

Bfv customisation was actually good. Now translate it onto modern gear and cosmetics should be fine

[abstract kindle]

game about ww3?

[copper minnow]

imagine a battlefield game with clan war where each clan is your own faction and there can be up to 256 members with 32 of them fighting another 32 members of other clan in a match

[wicked canyon]

it's subjective and opinion based. and to be fair, different BF games have different things for them. Battlefield 2 and 2142 were the best "tactical" battlefield games. Battlefield 2142 had the most unique setting.

Battlefield 1 was the best period era Battlefield

[jolly relic]

Put 2042 scale with BF4 demoliton and BF5 immersion with all old maps and you will have king of Battlefields

[wicked canyon]

Sorry anyway, I realise I came across a bit standoffish

[sterile jolt]

Scale wasn't good for 2042 imo

[rough idol]

2042 map scale.. no thanks

[granite wyvern]

Loved Hardline

[worthy sapphire]

for me: BF1 has the best immersion
BF4 has the best playability(?)
BF3 best maps
BF2 best content
and it goes on and on and on

[jolly relic]

2042 can seem empty at times, they could fill in more

[wicked canyon]

the thing is you cant really sell the game as "look, 256 players" slap in a bland empty map, and then release a game that needed more development time

[abstract kindle]

the best is 1942 xD

sry i joking idk ;p xD

[worthy sapphire]

exactly, the best battlefield game is truly the first battlefield game as it was the only battlefield game to exist

[wicked canyon]

Battlebit did it better though, the game was mechanically sound. It was never sold as an AAA experience

[worthy sapphire]

so all of these slapfights are useless

[jolly relic]

tbh i love the 64v64

[granite wyvern]

But the best would be the best at the factor most important to you

[worthy sapphire]

exactlt

exactly

[sterile jolt]

Best BF is Heroes

[jolly relic]

i know its a mod but Project Reality had some good times

[wicked canyon]

No, I am sorry, I don't want you thinking otherwise. I am a bit touchy because it feels like every game for the last 10 years has tried to emulate TF2, fortnite levels of customisation and it just feels... IDK, like stuff has been mutilated by it to some extent, like they've focused on what "looks" good rather than what is. But I am a grumpy 20 something arsehole who misses the days of Battlefield 2142

[abstract kindle]

one of best xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwdSbQe0dAs

[wicked canyon]

as someone who played 2142 in their tweens

I hate that EA shitcanned BF2142 revive

and I would genuinely buy it if they repackaged it to work on current platforms

that might actually be an easy way to milk the BF IP... just repackage and ship your older games

[jolly relic]

2142 was ahead of its time

[wicked canyon]

BFBC2 Vietnam, 2142 and BF2

[worthy sapphire]

just got an email from EA playtesting for 18-20 february. Zoom meeting? lol

[jolly relic]

Id buy the most premium version of BF2 remaster if they did it

[wicked canyon]

I imagine you deal with a lot of people who use this to be arsey with you too, like "hurr go away"

[tame surge]

bring back titans war

[granite wyvern]

Surely a decent game is more important

[jolly relic]

also bring back 6 man squads

tf

[summer forge]

I’m a grumpy something that remembers we wouldn’t have COD without Medal of Honor 😂👍 I get it

[jolly relic]

maybe 5 but 4 just seems lackluster

[willow fern]

We're doing lists, I see. I'm just going by BF components, not the 'best' game.

• BF Modern Combat 2: Most unique feature (class swapping via literal 'swoosh' character swapping)
• BC2: Best destruction, Best Rush Maps, imo best sound design. BC2 Vietnam best standalone DLC
• BF3: (I actually find it hard to say 'best' since BF4 IMO improved, but the maps were decent and varied for all playtypes, and it brought mainline BF to consoles)
• BF4: Best Squad and Commander coordination (Teamplay), best suppression I guess, an excellent amount of weapon selection and customisation, camos and patches and all that.
  (I stopped playing at this point)

I think they all had individual cons, and 'alrights'

Squad orders are the best way to heard randoms in BF4

[tame surge]

nothing to add here

[summer forge]

Ironic we can have skins in BF but couldn’t at least throw a pride charm in there

[jolly relic]

used to matter more when we had dedicated servers only

[willow fern]

also true 🤣

yes

[granite wyvern]

Best way is to keep kicking your weakest member til you have a decent squad

[willow fern]

BF3 was a big con for that

[summer forge]

Because that’s the mentality of someone who generally doesn’t play with others in a squad consistently.

[jolly relic]

Suppression in combat is a real thing

[willow fern]

squads from randoms can be the best squad you ever had

[summer forge]

Go play with the same people for years and you find out you each really do bring something to a squad outside of warm bodies and spawn points

[sterile jolt]

BFV's suppression is fine imo

That game had no 3D spotting though so you could suppress people to spot them

[granite wyvern]

I rarely play with randoms

[willow fern]

Did BFV give you tunnel vision ala BF3 or just random spread ala BF4

[sterile jolt]

Tunnel vision

Spread wasn't effected

[willow fern]

damn
I have to play on my own all the time

[jolly relic]

hard to tell if its missed shots or deliberate suppression 😉

[summer forge]

That does suck and is annoying. I usually just tell myself to get better. I can’t change the game or the players. But I can change me.

[granite wyvern]

I run a clan and an Xbox BF FB group

[wicked canyon]

I guess in a way... I think a lot of the customisation has taken away from the core game experience. But like you say, a patch is harmless. I think stuff like patches, armour customisation and skin / body type work (unless it's a WWII game, I know it's a meme but a black, female member of the Wehrmacht is just asking for people to point and laugh) but nothing beyond that, and nothing that doesnt fit with the setting

Rising Storm 2 had a nice level of customisation, you could choose body type, skin, and camo pattern etc. Viet Cong could be topless / tattooed and bandaged etc because they're an irregular militia while ARVN, Australian and US had different uniform styles, long / short sleeves etc

[summer forge]

I’ve been running with the same guys since BF V launch. But was playing long before that

[willow fern]

That's where I used to play! but friends split between in the console wars so now I just play PC by myself

honestly, Crossplay would be a cool as fuck feature alone at this point

if not already

[summer forge]

We have cross play in 2042….?

[willow fern]

oh cool
one redeeming feature at least 🤣

[granite wyvern]

Yeah but no one plays 2042

[willow fern]

I wouldn't touch 2042 with a bargepole though

[wicked canyon]

I loved PS5 players in HD2 realising they were playing with a guy on Steam Deck running the game at 25fps (me) haha

[summer forge]

I still do and enough people do that I rarely get bot servers on conquest or tdm

[long stump]

hello chat

[wicked canyon]

like they're getting curbstomped while I am running between automatons single handedly wiping outposts on low framerates

[granite wyvern]

I stopped within first two weeks

[summer forge]

S520 +/- 😅

[granite wyvern]

I have stupid hours on BFV

[summer forge]

Your V hours probably look like my 2042 hours between my PS4 and 5.

[wicked canyon]

remember early days of bf3 where the dart was broken

[abstract kindle]

hello

[wicked canyon]

and you could snipe people across the map with it

[granite wyvern]

3,590 🥸

[summer forge]

I agree. That’s also why I mentioned I can’t change anything aside from my own skill.

[summer forge]

That’s some Adriann level hours right there 🤣

Though hes a different kinda player all together

[granite wyvern]

Just been playing the latest (playable) BF for over 7 years

[tight rain]

I can’t say I’m against the idea of suppression affecting stuff such as spread. There is nothing more dissatisfying as suppressing a target and then getting beamed anyways because it doesn’t actually matter

[summer forge]

You barely played 😂

[tropic folio]

i will accept suppression if it's purely visual

[hidden kraken]

yea, but i feel like the majority of people dont want that kind of squadplay, they want to run and gun, just simply have fun

[tropic folio]

darkening the edges of the screen, maybe blur, shake, whatever, but affecting actual accuracy just feels terrible

[hidden kraken]

not have to work with their squad and learn tactics

[jolly relic]

after all the fixes i think 2042 is pretty fun with a good squad

[light orchid]

id like to find a 2042 game that isnt propped up by bots

[granite wyvern]

You can normally switch off effects in settings though

[jolly relic]

Angel or Lis all day

[tired breach]

Add linux support this time please.

[tight rain]

There is about fuck all I can do to stop a guy from popping out of cover and quick scoping me

[jolly relic]

i wont disagree with that lol

[tight rain]

Likewise I haven’t felt much urgency in getting shot at all. It means virtually nothing other than oh an enemy is over there

[summer forge]

I usually remember where they were, spawn back in and flank them

[tropic folio]

passive ones yeah, but if suppression is going to have those effects then they shouldn't be toggleable, maybe a slider from 50-100 intensity

[summer forge]

Adapt, overcome, succeed

[jolly relic]

flinch is way shittier

[sterile jolt]

2042 is goated

[granite wyvern]

Yeah they would have to be compulsory. I even switch off music & announcer.

[tight rain]

So dying and just hunting them down is the answer? I feel discouraging people from sticking their heads up into a stream of bullets makes more sense

[summer forge]

Rage bait arsehole 🤣

[tight rain]

Oooh noo my screen is blurry

[jolly relic]

add me for 2042 if anyone wants to run BiggMac530

[tight rain]

I don’t think bullets should start going 90 degrees upwards outta the barrel but getting suppressed means literally nothing

[summer forge]

It gets better when I remember their username and start looking for them. Piss them off lol

[tight rain]

Now that I agree with lol

[sterile jolt]

I'm fine with BFV tier suppression

They should remove 3D spotting for it to be useful though

[summer forge]

This would require players actually getting better and choosing to not play as casual

They’ll never do that in current environment

[tight rain]

Killing is obviously useful but trying to suppress an area so my teammates can actually do shit should be a valid option too

[wicked canyon]

I am looking forward to Warsaw Revamped... Battlefield 4 open source mod

[bitter pier]

We can only wish for something like that

[latent moat]

BF6 needs to include Ask Madden

[summer forge]

Now you’re implying teamwork, show me where players actually use teamwork anymore

[alpine badge]

Sometimes, you can't kill the enemy and your best bet is to keep em suppressed while your team advances

[tight rain]

I wanna be the team player damnit

[tight rain]

Exactly

Blurring the screen a little means absolutely fuck all in doing so

[granite wyvern]

That’s why I only play with friends

[summer forge]

I play conquest with teamwork all the time

[alpine badge]

With an LMG, it's possible but could also be done with an AR or any weapon but their downside being that they have a low capacity so you'll have to resort to firing in shoretburst or multiple singe fire

[bitter pier]

Dude you know what would be sick? A Suez Canal from 2142 remastered map

[edgy mantle]

I feel like suppression should only do that if you're being shot by an LMG

[summer forge]

I’ll run falck with smoke and ammo, other 3 run rockets of some nature. We push objectives, keep each other alive. Tanks are nothing to us, always in communication.

[edgy mantle]

Because LMGs feel like glorified ARs in BF3 BF4 and bf2042

[alpine badge]

Keeping the enemy suppressed could give your team an edge to advancing a position without the enemy firing back or delaying and maybe force them to gamble by firing back with the risk of unintentionally getting shot by your LMG

[edgy mantle]

They should be more stationary and imperative to sustained suppressive fire like BF1 and bfv

[summer forge]

Does 2042 fundamentally support this? Absolutely not.

Do we still play this way? Absolutely

RPT would like a word

[alpine badge]

I like the suppression system for all guns

[edgy mantle]

Absolutely not

They're just big mag ARs

lcmg, avancys, rpt, m240

[summer forge]

RPT, short barrel, standard ammo, irons or red dot, bipod

[latent moat]

I like the concept of sustaining increased damage once your suppression meter reaches a certain level

[edgy mantle]

pkp-bp too

[alpine badge]

I love the PKM

[tight rain]

I’m an rpk man

That gun is goated

[summer forge]

Delay is only there if you choose to not learn the timing

[edgy mantle]

That's the only thing holding them back

Everything else is just glorified AR stats

Not to mention the masterkey shotgun attachment

[wicked canyon]

MMGGA - make machine guns great again, we need an MG3 in Battlefield, or M53 (Yugo produced MG42)

[edgy mantle]

Well you gotta know how to use and run with them

[summer forge]

Wtf sights you using for slow ads?

[edgy mantle]

I was disappointed by the lack of an mg3 or MG42 type machine gun in bf2042

[tight rain]

Dude I was hoping man

[summer forge]

SCZ and SFAR are broken

[edgy mantle]

I want to be a monstrous killing machine ripping apart everything in my path and the MG42 in bfv fed me well

[summer forge]

Better than the k30 by far

[edgy mantle]

By that logic pistols are the best guns

[summer forge]

SFAR can go on par with SCZ and pp29

[edgy mantle]

Especially the g18 on burst mode

[loud sierra]

frfr

we need the fn mini in the new game

[summer forge]

I’ve beat pp29 with SCZ

[loud sierra]

if its in the middle east we have t have it

[wicked canyon]

I've used an airsoft MG42, heavy but fun and great to get dug in, I know its not like the real steel but the feel of holding and running and setting up with it is awesome

I've got photos if people want to see

this is from like 2016