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Bf4 feels more stiff to me
Is the RSC even in BF1?
yeah
I haven't played in forever
Try air strafing
I don’t mean vehicles
Btw speaking of historical firearms, I got to fire a full auto M1A1 Thompson
yeah bf3 feels more free
It doesn't
You can slightly strafe to right or left
But in BF4 you can do 360s
While in air
Btw I never really play vehicles in BF4 but
That’s cool
BFV has best movement ever
Where tf is the throttle on controller
I agree with that
I agree
I tried everything I could only turn the afterburner on and off
Then I wouldn’t know
Not sure if I should link it
The muzzle climb is way more than you'd expect out of a 12 pound gun firing a pistol caliber lol
But Enders has a video on it
Maybe I’m biased?
About the movement difference in BF games from 3 to 2042
4 is more ''free'' in that regards
I prefer bf3 while bf4 is my least fav
Compared to 3
Do you guys enjoy BF1 or 4 more? I started back playing both and 4 just feels so sweaty
Also the magazine is a pain in the ass to insert
I forgot 😞
Haven’t a shot gun since 2019
You have to line it up with these little grooves and I can't even imagine having to do that shit fighting in WW2
The great generation
His name is Caster Salemi
You wouldn't even know he's 102, he looks like he's in his 80s
I prefer bf1 more, bf4 just feels awful to me, I can’t stand how the guns feel and vehicles too strong
There's a pretty heartwearming video from when he appeared in court for running a red light and got everything dismissed for his service
He was in the Philippines
Ah
4 used to be my absolute favorite game purely cause of sniping
It's sad how few WW2 vets are left
Only a million left I believe
But 1 feels better for sniping and honestly more engaging
Did they have to make Gewehr 1-5 that strong in BFV?
It was a last effort junk gun irl
In BF1 sniping was a bit too popular and op at times with the special kill ranges
For the next BF I'd prefer ttk to be kinda similar to BF1. I like the slightly slower pace of play more than in V or 2042
Truly a 'You might not be ready for it yet but your kids are gonna love it' moment.
Because people can't enjoy something new or otherwise give it a chance.
Agreed i hope its slower like bf1
Its just more fun when you get a chance to actually fight back
My grandad fought in WW2 but he passed some years ago
BF1's fine overall, they just fucked the SMG08's firerate and made the gun so codified it hurts, that and paywalling in-game content behind a no longer accessible means of obtaining it is also scummy as shit.
The BFV Enlister thing
It’s the opposite, the less movement you have the less potential you have to regain the initiative
BF1 could've been a way better game though
Like if they didn't nerf sliding so hard, if they kept the lack of visual recoil and sight sway from BF4, if they had removed suppression, I would've really liked BF1.
Same but Korean War vet
Not my grandpa though
But rather my father's aunt's husband
My grandpa was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam.
Apparently got shot down once, and was exposed to Agent Orange.
He died a few years ago.
Korean War BF would be pretty dope imo
Like BFV: 2
I don't think anyone really wants BFV 2.
I do
why
Becasue I like it's movement and weapon design
When you limit effectiveness of ARs to 50 meters max and SMGs to 30 meters max you will have more reasons to use SARs or shotguns
I never used them in BF3 or 4
Can't expect to do that in a modern BF game like imagine AK or M4A1 having 50 meters range, but you can do that in a game set in WW2 era
With older weapons
Korean War is like 5 years after WW2 anyways
Why not
We’ve got spread for that, 2042 had spread like that at around launch time
To their real life counterparts
They obviously don't
But still
People would complain if effective range of AK was 50 meters
When in reality it's like 400 meters
People would complain about guns being true to life accurate at range aswell, I don’t feel the setting would matter much
If you arent dead in .3 seconds then you have a chance to fight
Movement or not
I do 100%
Imagine BF1 with Bad Company 2's gunplay mechanics
???
Soon to all be gone but at least we were the last generation to meet them in person
My grandfather fought in WW2 on the pacific front as a pilot, I think it was hard for him to talk about what happened but was probably the same for a lot of vets
I meet a lot of vets in the military
I hear so many thing. Most of them is hard to remember shit. Since it been ages ago
I'm looking for good squad for Battlefield V, a team that love WWII and passionate about it please contact me
yo
What
No one has ever complained about that
Only with shotguns do people complain about inaccurate ranges
No, imagine BF1 with BFV’s gunplay & gameplay ❤️
imagine bf1 and bfv with 2042's gunplay & gameplay 
🤢🤮
can someone help me to fix crash with bf2042, crashed graphics card try reinstalling latest driver
I honestly don't see why people dislike 2042's so much
sure specialists are annoying and all, but on a movement and gunplay front I still consider it almost the best
SMGs can kill enemies within 100 meters in 2042
It wouldn't work in BFV or 1
Due to lack of spread/bloom ARs and SMGs are already too powerful in V compared to 1
of course dasher is the first to agree lol
given the map sizes i'm glad they're accurate over range
There's a big difference between historic and futuristic guns

if things were smaller then sure, go for it, but it would be a slog if there was more spread
They tried to make the game inclusive at the cost of not being fun.
Hey!
Haha "that's a tank"
Yep
No
Movement and animation are downgrade
Hello, is someone interested in helping me get the "death from above" achievement on PS, or has some advice?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
But what about the atmosphere
Trash
And you're saying that's worse than 2042??
Ppl that say BF4 is the best havent played BF3
Youre putting words in my mouth
Don't get me wrong. 3 had banger voice lines
And aesthetic too
But 4 voice acting and visual aesthetic aren't terrible
Have you played the BF4 campaign? That was legit ass
And that is basically the only good thing about BF4
I agree
But eh
I just want AI bots in multiplayer
And these dice scums only restored them in 2042
Wasted
Ngl, I always wanted a Co-op bot mode.
And now we got it.
Bots in solo mode for 2042 aren't great
And I had more hours with that then actual Multiplayer
AI bots are basic
And solo mode is garbage
You can't even switch damn side
Bullshit
The MP for 2042 is ass. All COD fanboys
IKR???
I hope BF6 will be more like BF3
Ppl that say they want BF4 in BF6 are crazy
I mean, if youre into a shit campaign, maps that are way too big for infantry and shit ttk be my guest
Im done with campaign
I simply want multiplayer with bots
That's GOOD
Like make bots smarter and advanced
Lemme play on all maps and modes
And additional options - like TEAM SWITCH
And make them so they GIVE ME MY FUCKING AMMO
And make them use all gadgets
Like imagine them using spawn beacon
RELIABLE AF
AND weapons
And why the hell do we have specialists in BF2042
The bots have the normal classes. Why cant we?
EA do be wanting a hero shooter
Game was originally supposed to be br
Whats with the BR bs anyways? Why do ppl still want that?
The hype is long over
And overrated
No 😭

Wth is concord
Notice we both got shadow in our usernames

i just played the combined arm mode in bf5
tried to find lobbies in hard mode
got no one so i just roll solo with anti tank sniper hoping ill do well for my first time
headshotted a bot with the AT sniper....
it only does 17 fucking damage
holy fuck lmfao
never playing that mode again
btw heard ppl said battlebits is similliar to bf4 experience
if anyone playing it is that game still alive?
Battlebit? 💀
No way ppl actually enjoyed that
Not many people play that now and if they do it’s to get through certain gun assignments
Was pretty good I won’t lie
Especially for such a small team
sadge
aint it almost goty
whats not enjoyable about it tho
heard its a solid battlefield experience
@granite wyvern
@remote plinth
It’s a sort of merging of milsim and battlefield systems, but it does bf well
You do you.
I just think its another copy
That died in a week
Like most games nowadays
Props to them, I just dont like it.
the blocky graphic?
Yeah that’s fair, not going to try change your mind
though it was in development before 2042 was even announced mind you
i mean i just want info so that i can decide to buy it or not
whats so bad about it or not
youtube reviews sometimes are too prejudice or overhyped
Don’t watch reviews, just watch some gameplay
No way to determine whether you will like something by watching someone else’s review. Find someone who shares similar interests to you and you might get a good idea, but otherwise just watch some long videos and see how it plays out and how you’d feel being in the drivers seat
honestly it felt inferior to bf 5 except that u can have 126 vs 126 player and proximity chat
though i only play bf 5
tho a review from someone who actully play it is more useful than just watching vids
Understandable, it’s just down to finding those who have similar tastes who’s opinion you can mirror
I wish a bf game had better solo mode
Thankfully, WR is working on bf4
Hey, the anti-cheat's here yet?
This guy literally said 'fuck it, I'll make TitanFall 3 myself' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2gGOQ3Ifrg
which weapon has underbarrel shotgun 2042
many
bf4 pc anyone
"Improvement". Its not an improvement when the AC bricks you from even launching the game when the only 3 programs you even have open are steam, ea, and discord
It don’t “brick” me from playing the game 
I can't wait for the next Battlefield game
Mostly curious how much from 3/4 they have in the game 😛
Also, hopefully they keep riding vehicles easy like this in the next one 
Nothing like jet/heli surfing 
@timid pulsar Its probably on smaller maps tbh
yeah 16 player size
I was in the minority of playing the 16 player maps in BF2 lol
I’m usually that way with BF, but since 2042 I’m a little more reserved with my excitement.
I struggle to really be excited for anything now
Even if I’m confident that a game will be something I enjoy, it’s technical state is most likely going to be sub par
So game launches just feel a little miserable, even outside of bf
Not to perpetually hate on 2042 but having spent £120 on the freaking super duper deluxe edition I definitely treat every new release with a brain of salt. Suicide Squad was the only time I wavered and that went as poorly as can be expected
I was a bit too blinded by the flash of the open beta (even despite all the jank)
kinda an interesting issue, battlefield is doing this weird thing where it's skipping frames when i move my mouse? like the game runs fine but when i look around it just stops moving the camera then jumps to where it's supposed to me
idk how or why
any ideas?
Only spent £70 here but I get you. Some games have tempted me, was tempted to get stalker 2 just to support them but knowing their history that’s unwise
I spent that plus I upgraded my XBox to a Series X especially for it. I stopped playing within 10 days lol.
#battlefield-2042 try here
The golden rule; 'try before you buy' is golden for a reason.
GameStops need the open floor kiosks so people can actually try new games and see if they're worth buying.
I think I overestimated how many weapons there'd be, and the overall tone of the game. Hoping whatever CTE they do for the new game is on consoles too because I will be SCRUTINISING it to death before I consider it. Cannot stress enough his much they need to draw on the pace and tone of Battlefield 3 and 4
And Bad Company 2, let's not forget.
Never had the fortune to play it so I'll default to the judgment of BC2 veterans
They need to use the gameplay of BFV
it had full environmental destruction, every building, every tree, all of it was destructible. The weapons were all amazing and catered to every play style, only real complaint was the spawn camping griefers
The mantling onto higher ledges is definitely something I want back. I just need them to get sliding right because it could really be abused in BFV
Also the MG3 unlike the MG42 and 33 in BFV was accurate and not a watered down mess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCvGh7gJ6cE
Ah gotcha. Well we saw that destruction physics demo a few years ago, before 2042. I hope even a modicum of that gets used in this game. Like look at the finals. I'd love to have physics based destruction that can impact the map. Only unlike the finals, falling debris should be able to kill players
I do love the movement and sliding. I would also like to see squad revives remain and support actions
Bad Company 2 is my hill because the sound design was honestly better in BC2.
Idk I'm iffy about squad revives personally. I feel like having it be limited to the medic means there's a legitimate incentive for your squad to have one. Especially with the dragging mechanics that were rumoured
You can still play Bad Company 2's campaign to get a feel for the enviromental destruction and weapon play, it's sadly a fraction of what the multiplayer had to offer given the servers being killed off for no known reason.
I think the slowed down non-medic revive is a perfect balance for that
Not to be derivative of CoD but it'd be awesome if diving was a thing. Because realistically it's a little hard to slide backwards or sideways, so make diving the function for those directions
Fair fair
the diving stuff is a bit much, though.
Especially if we have the movement of BFV - crouch running and probing on your back
Oh and in bad Company 1 and 2, the snipers didn't have glint
Oh I don't mean fully flying through the air like a cruise missile, I do just mean a very short distance flop. So like you could dive in or out of cover, or dive onto your back when getting pushed to spray someone quickly. It's all about the actual speed of things
It's wacky as hell with CoD, players looking like superman
You can jump prone already, just need to practice it
Well case in point, make it more of a feature
press jump and hold the prone button
I'd say that if it were made into more of a feature than it already is then players will demand it be more codified
and after BFV/2042 being absolutely dogshit cod pandering crap it's the last thing we need.
Don’t you dare compare BFV to 2042.
Not necessarily. Core battlefield players - the really NUTS kind - are usually against CoD-esque movement. Look at the Slide in BF1
BFV was subpar but absolutely innovated on a lot of things. Mantling onto higher ledges, crouch running, etc were all really good additions
Heck you could kinda dive through windows by jump proning/crouching
It’s my fave BF I’ve played
Case in point; If EA would stop circlejerking us and pust fucking make TitanFall 3 already we'd have a 'movement shooter' that'd kill cod instantly but noooooo we have to have a fucking battle royal game that no one asked for.
*just
You could jump crouch into windows in bad Company 2.
BFV sniping was on point too. Highest bullet velocities of any BF game I think. Though for this title I think dial it back a bit, I do like having to lead shots better
BFV sadly had watered down gunplay that was a mix between 'realism' and 'cod laserbeam' guns. It's quite annoying to say the least.
Never really been a sniper. If I play Recon I usually use the Trench Carbine
It's a 50/50 really. They did innovate quite a bit with it. For example it did the whole weapon passives thing before 2042. I.e some weapons had faster ADS movement speeds
You can't aim down the sights of an MG42 because it's 'not realistic' while you have cod mobile skins sprint sliding all over.
It's a horrible mix of half-baked unfinished crap.
Which would work if the mechanics were built around that, BFV feels like cod and overwatch gameplay with a faint echo of battlefield thrown in somewhere.
Hence the issue
I think being a run n gunner, BFV gameplay was perfect for me
The ability to keep shooting while jumping was a solid addition ngl
Enders did a video comparing movement and I see BF3 had the option to stay ADS while vaulting which is cool
@wicked ledge are you on Xbox as well?
Playstation, alas
Ah okay, just I run an XBox BFV group on FB
It is, just hope it's not too far in either direction of being underpowered or cracked out of reality.
BFV did follow through with the WW2 setting
they essentially followed the cod trend
Never gave me the band of brothers saving pvt Ryan vibe, didn't feel like a ww2 game at all
A lot of fans were upset by all the female soldiers at launch. Although none of that bothered me much, DICE did not deal with the backlash from fans very well.
BFV is a Woke game 
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It didn’t bother me as much either
As long as I can run around & shoot people I don’t care
Chongqing would actually make for a pretty badass map
Albeit one that's a nightmare to navigate and with maybe too much verticality
Can see it as a 16v16 map
People who complain about games being "woke" are the corniest
How so?
Because it's just bullshit lol
Me when I see a woman outside (this is forced diversity)
Most should stay in but let's not go there
😭 insane
wait why is it dogshit?
bf V
250 round 980ish rpm machine gun that can ads will break the game lol
It’s my fave BF
same but i only play bf 5 so far
though i saw bf 2042 clips
that game is full of ninjas lol
the concept of distance and holding the line doesnt seem to exist
they just glide there like a squirl and cook ppl
The sweats on Xbox tend to favour the ZK
oh yea i also like that
that gun is decent
type 2a isnt rly the best when u scope in
i just use it to rush ppl sliding and hipfiring
at least zk u can use it like stg 44 lol
just abit worse recoil
It had an extremely buggy and messy launch that lacked content and a lot of the cosmetics are a bit too un-world-war 2 like in vibes.
People moan about it but if you are too far from the enemy to spit at, most other SMG’s beat it
m3 grease gun is peak for ranged fight
Generally it doesn't always embody world war 2 as well as bf1 does ww1 but I think it got overhated by people complaining about the women
True
ah
i buy it years after launch so
its basicly having a good refined product?
Was not helped when that DICE representative said if you don’t like it, don’t buy it
Yeah it's much better now
Yeah
still hacker issue though but can avoid it if u play on the good community server
crazy
Or if you're in on console
Yeah I am so cheaters are few and far between
Just strike pack and Cronus users
It's theoretically possible but much more difficult
It’s always a cat and mouse game for pc and console. Anticheats gets better to slow them down, as cheats gets worse and worse. They both grow as we advance in technology
im guessing console gotta do some hardwiring to cheat lol
No real way of stopping it. Also older games is more vulnerable even with the latest anticheat 
Console can stop 3rd party devices easily. Sony did it with that one PS5 update. But they can’t stop AI cheats from streaming their game via remote play on a PC
The cheating devices? 
sus
I know Sony released that patched stealth and people flipped out about it. Cuz of that
If they revert the change or found a bypass it.
ps5 players still can cheat, without remote play to PC
Is there anyone who has unused code from bfV preorder? I really would like the weapon unlocks for bf1. (Pc/ea/origin)
If you get an origin subscription you can also use the weapons on PC
Hey folks, how's the situaton for European servers of BF4?
I'm deciding if I need to re-install either BF4 or BF2042
I know BF2042 has more players but I prefer BF4 gameplay, so if there's enough players to play comfortably at most times of the day it'd be fine for me
What’s the exchange rn?
BFV has more players than both of those
it's what I'm playing right now lol
but I got tired of WW2
Are you relying on steamDB. Cuz it’s crossplay with Xbox,PS, EA app, Steam or other launchers that it’s on.
Relying on steam only. Is bad perspective on games player base
There are other sources
Yes but other platforms don’t show numbers
Only steam does. Cuz someone linked it to its database for that reason, nothing else
anyway it's probably true....Steam has the bigger playerbase in general...if BFV has more players than BF2042 on the same platform is likely to be same everywhere
regardless it wasn't the topic I wanted to discuss
Not always the case. BF1 on Steam excluding EA app players/numbers. Isn’t the same with Xbox/PS. could be lower or higher. Never the same. Hardline is still popping off on Xbox. But dead asf on PC.
Hardline is beyond dead on PC. No servers or players online.
yah but BF1 doesn't have crossplay so why would anyone care?
Neither does BF4
nor BFV
Still. People rely on steamDB for player count and how it’s active. Compared to said platform that never will give out. Numbers
Most people nowadays that don’t have pc. Rely on SteamDB for any game. It’s sad
Steam numbers don’t justify other platforms. Steam numbers is for Steam only.
PC player base for any game. Dosent count the native launcher like EA app. Steam is one platform and that’s all. 2042 prob have higher number for PC only. But EA dosent give out those numbers like other platforms.
Steam can have X amount of players.
Yet the remaining players is on EA app. But it tells you there is small amount. But you see way more in game.
You see what I’m saying?
Yeah Steam metrics aren't the most reliable for Battlefield
I do not agree but whatever, I don't really care, I just want to decide if I have to go with BF4 or 2042
Like if it wasn't for the players I'd go to bf4 immediately
Not to be off topic. But cod have millions of players on PS. But steam numbers is really small. That’s not counting Xbox also.
It's reliable for like PC only games that are steam exclusive and that's about it (so mostly indie games tbh)
Tru tru. Or PC only lobbies. But if a game have crossplay. The numbers honestly dosent mean anything at all.
Steam is for steam only. Not reliable source for any other platform.
Like I said for BF hardline. It’s a huge difference
Game dead on steam/EA app. But alive on Xbox 
I'm gonna be so sad next month when BF3's Xbox and PS3 servers shut down
New gen consoles operate on basically a makeshift emulator, at least for Xbox
So when the 360 servers go down so does the new gen version.
The new gen BF4 version 
It's different for BF4 because it was released as separate versions for xbox 360 and xbox one
Bf3 is just a backwards compatible 360 game
That’s what I figured
On my Xbox I have new gen BF4 and it don’t say 360 on the game card unlike BF3
Mhm
The servers is also separate from old and new gen consoles
Yeeup
EA only said PS3/360 version will get shut down. So if you have new gen version or PC. Your fine
That is true. BF3 as a whole. Won’t be playable for console due to no new gen version. But PC servers will be up still 
https://youtu.be/iMhYe5bzZq0?si=B3Qt_esAchz5Oz9u some wacky glitches in this one
is getting 15 m1 garand kills at 50m range in a single match hard or i just suck
in bf V
Man the bf 109 g6 really needs some balancing, when you’re playing as a Britt you stand absolutely no chance against it since the spitfire doesn’t have the high altitude cheat
The bf literally checkmates the spitfire, when it flies high you can choose between two things, go after it and stall, then the bf proceeds to shoot its rockets on you. Or you can run away but then it follows you and obliterates you
You need two spitfires and the bf to be at 50 hp for it to be a fair fight lmao
This has been an issue for years and they still haven’t fixed it
Never used the Garand but the one I could never do was the last Karabin Mastery (25 hipfire kills in a round) - WTF?
is it just me or is bfv just war thunder with some infantry gameplay as your loading screen between vehicle spawns? like actually i cannot play infantry for shit its just vehicles taking over every single match and i cant find any actual humans to shoot at
Plat Tactical Conquest (Arras through to Rotterdam then repeat).
ah i forgot there were like different categories of conquest
Al Marj & Underground are full on infantry maps
thanks, hopefully i can get some more enjoyment out of this game lol every time i played i would just queue into a random server and itd be a tossup between fun infantry stuff & very vehicle-dominated stuff
No worries, use server browser and join on Arras 👍
I don’t mind tanks but hate air
hey
Have they nerfed the spitfire missiles or do I just suck? I saw some YouTube videos about it and in those videos the spitfire could destroy a tank but when I fire on a tank I deal a maximum of 64 damage? Those videos are old though
They aren’t updating previous games but 2042. Set for EA anticheat
Whatever is set and made for changes is fixed for now on
take the aek out of the game dice
So it haven’t been nerfed and I just suck?
The MG3 was 100 rounds at 1200rpm in Bad Company 2, no one had any complaints.
BFV was a woke reversionistic take on WWII that deliberately tried to rewrite history and censor it. A common example to make is the Norway campaign, it was teams of MEN, not a single Mary Sue that took down the Heavy Water Plant.
That one pisses me off the most
“They have three options: they can come down from the mountains above the plant, which is littered with minefields; they can cross the single-lane suspension bridge, which is closely guarded; or they can descend to the bottom of the valley across a half-frozen river and climb a 500-foot-high cliff. They decide to climb the cliff, in the middle of the night, in the middle of winter!” – Neal Bascomb
Yeah, you know what else is ridiculous? "A new video game is coming out. If it isn't historically accurate, I'm going to be personally offended."
"if a company doesn't dedicate millions of dollars to fill my dopamine addiction the way I want it, I'm going to be really angry!"
we're talking about stuff that defies logic, right?
there’s a difference between historical accuracy and respecting history
What happened to battlefield incursions?
I don’t really care about all that, I only care about the gameplay.
we need to discuss a real issue that plagues games and that the next battlefield could have
joining a match thats 1-2 minutes from ending or a team is just a few score points from winning
there NEEDS to be a system that "locks" lobbies once a team passes a certain score threshold, no one wants to join a lobby where the flow of the match is already set and wont be broken, a new player wont change the tide and all you'll do in said match is die 3-5 times on your spawn before the game ends within 30 seconds to a minute
cod is objectively bad i know but the ammount of times i join a domination match where a team has like 190 points vs my team being at like... 25 is actually impressive
2042 suffers from this issue aswell, though not as frequently
we're unlikely to get a server browser cause modern gaming but please dice can we, for once since mw2019 have a videogame with functional, logical and sensible matchmaking? thanks.
Was so incredibly annoying especially when it booted you back to the menu
real
Again, cod is a bad example cause its objectively a bad game
and since its matchmaking is manufactured for player retention, not actual gameplay
but holy shit
its insane
i fear how dice will handle matchmaking and servers on 2025
People were convinced 2042 used the same retention system when this matchmaking first approach came out, which tells you everything
2042's matchmaking is funny cause it will make a server just for you and no one will join
We need persistent servers / server browser (or next BF will be a flop too).
both please
if we're sentenced to matchmaking, give us persistent lobbies
then again with servers we're also sentenced to power trip admins
I just want to be able to choose the damn map
Map + mode is what I use the browser for
erm akshually! 🤓 skill based matchmaking and taking choice away to the player is good actually!
Like please no
Look at mwIII
and halo infinite
I know the community feel is a big part of it for lots of people, but I just don’t want to spend 5 minutes requeuing only to get the same map that I simply don’t want to play
No it’s not
that was the joke
There’s a reason the 🤓 was used
damn!
russia vs ottomans on bf1 would've been dope
Benign or otherwise anecdotal inaccuracies that're unintentional is understandable. Deliberate censorship, downplaying and rewriting history however is not.
BFV is not only a censorship of what truly transpired, it's above all else to claim it never happened if it's to be presented as 'an accurate portrayal' instead of being shown as accurately as possible.
It's a disgrace to the men and women who gave their limbs, sanities and lives for their respective countries.
BF is NOT a history lesson, it’s a video game - get a grip
Technically it is, it's a good lesson on how not to treat your development team and fanbase, it's definitely going down in the books of business education courses.
Anyone wanna play bf1? On xbox
I’m down, anyone else?
My user is TwoWhiteBoys22 add me 😀
Just went 50 and 19
To be honest, I feel like most of the people that were complaining so hard about BFV or even BF1 not being "historically accurate" are just being big babies and should not be listened or catered to, they shouldn't even be acknowledged.
Video games do not exist to be perfect representations of reality.
A fair bit had no real arguments, even I couldn't stand them. However the point still stands that having a game be set in a historical setting should respect said history, unless otherwise stated as 'alternate history'.
As for this, not all the time, no. But when the setting would be better with more realistic elements then yeah. Arma is a prime example of there being a market for it.
I don't feel like most things that BFV did (Barring some exceptions with the paid soldier skins with REALLY unfortunate names) represented a disrespect of the history.
Battlefield does not really benefit from pure realism. it is an arcade shooter.
Arma existing does not justify trying to make the arcade shooter as realistic as possible.
In its portrayal of history, I understand that some elements in gameplay are needed to appeal to the core audience, however those elements should only be tweaked when needed and maintain a consistent baseline.
Aside from paid solder skins, like that one german one that looks really stupid, I feel like it is mostly fine aesthetically.
And when it's in a historical setting, respecting history should be the main point. Otherwise put a 'alternate history' disclaimer or just don't do history.
Gameplay, aside from spread to recoil conversion, is good for the purposes of being an arcade shooter.
these ‘it’s just a video game’ people, yet are the ones going around saying video games are art
Contradicting one's self in the same sentence, got to 'love' it.
...are you saying they're contradicting themselves
Quite a few people do that... you'd be shocked
i mean in this instance you are literally getting mad at a person that @true viper invented, because nobody said that
Not really the censorship of WWII's National Socialist imagery being a major part of my complaints.
You missed an earlier part of the conversation
Yeah well take it up with Germany, i donno what to say.
Wasn’t bfv advertised as like ‘wow a ww2 game but on the unknown battles’
Ironically enough they lifted the ban of that being presented in games.
I don't really care, i typically roll my eyes when i see that stuff.
seems inconsistent from what i hear
like i've talked to germans
Opening prologue basically said 'this shit unheard battles learn for yourself the 'real' stories'
And I've played Wolfenstein youngblood with Germans, they said they can see the Sw@sticas.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Depends purly on the studio and weather or not they care about portraying WWII properly. Rebellion is a prime example on what a good modern WWII shooter is.
I don’t mind a world war game being arcadey, I hate games like hell let loose where you can get shot in the toe and instantly die
but I prefer if the game respects history
I think BFV had bigger issues than historical accuracy.
you’re confusing respecting history and historical accuracy
historical accuracy would be everyone running around with their respective faction’s standard issue gear
respecting history would be not having a cyberpunk woman in a ww2 game
Like i said before. Barring paid skins that look stupid and had really unfortunate names, i believe there was a german one that shared a name with an irl revolutionary from the time, nothing in BFV strikes me as blatant disrespect of the history.
cyberpunk my ass it was a prosthetic that was accurate to the time.
a woman with a prosthetic arm on the frontlines of ww2
video game. you barely see it anyway.
the muh its just a video game doesn’t help you at all
i mean, it is.
muh its a video game dont complain about lag
different issue
lag effects your ability to play the video game
Sadly she doesn't exist
balancing effects your ability to play the video game
the single woman with a prosthetic arm that barely exists doesn't
Muh reeeeespect
Besides, BFV's ''war stories'' side is historically inaccurate as hell
THE PROSTHETIC ARM WOMAN WAS NEVER ACTUALLY IN THE GAME
THEY REMOVED IT BEFORE LAUNCH
the main character of the reveal trailer
No she's not in the game
You can't equip a cyborg arm
Or a katana on the back of an Irish soldier
For war stories part:
a teenage Lara Croft wannabe replacing the Norwegian commandos who stopped the Germans from potentially building a nuke
This
Also Senegalese soldiers weren't a subject of racism
how is that not disrespecting history
If anything they were praised for their bravery by French
Just like how any other media changes history
To make a story
It's not about respect in the first place
You can make historically accurate and entertaining stories too
Like real life is more interesting than fiction sometimes
1 example
Of course you can
still, i don't think it's fair to say that making fictional stories that take place during a major war really counts as disrespecting history.
They don't even acknowledge Norwegian commandos who sabotaged the Narvik dude
That's the people's issue
Germany most likely would've had nukes if not for them
I am very seriously doubting that the people complaining knew about or gave a shit about that, I strongly feel like most of the "criticism" was just levelled at the fact that women were portrayed at all.
Like, I feel like you're giving those people way too much credit
I honestly don't have much of an issue with women in games
But WW2 setting ain't it
Especially not in western front or pacific
It would've been accurate in eastern front which we never got
yeah but you'll be surprised at the amount of people that do, and when BFV showed up with women in WW2, they were all willing to ride the "historical accuracy"/"respect the history" train as long as nobody asked them about WW2 history outside of like, the germans.
or like, tanks.
I strongly feel like that's where most of the BFV criticism came from, people that were mad that women existed in a video game and then latched on to the closest excuse that came up that would seem reasonable.
Why would they when they're not actually following the real history
some do it good, some do it bad
It's why I largely just toss all that shit in the garbage
I don't really care, I genuinely care more about the quality of a game than if it's representing WW2 or Vietnam accurately.
which is why I think BF1 is bad
Female spies were a thing, no one would’ve minded that
oh, Gamers™️ definitely would've.
Cod WW2 did it
There's a thing you need to know about those people. They hate minorities.
They show up, they're gonna hate the fact that they exist.
they hate women and minorities.
BF1 is historically too inaccurate imo
To be honest, I could not give any less of a fuck if BF1 is historically inaccurate, it's just not that good of a game.
Half the SMGs or ARs shouldn't exist
In BF1
Or 90% of them
Besides MP18 and Fedorov Avtomat
it’s just a game
Those actually were used
it’s just a video game
I think the only guns that shouldn't have been put in BF1 are the SMG 08, and every elite kit.
you’re complaining over nothing
it’s just a game
Like, Assault did not need an 84 round SMG.
It already had like, a 50 round one with the Hellriegel.
I get where they come from but it's not an authentic WW1 game like people claim it to be
its a ww1 video game
it looks pretty and is really atmospheric.
it doesn’t matter
That is what most people are on about with BF1.
what you want all of them to have bolt action rifles and that’s it
Bolt actions, semi auto(just RSC but still) and many LMGs also existed
Like, most of the guns in that game probably shouldn't exist, they only do so due to the traditional BF class structure.
Too many ARs and SMGs though
actual hypocrites
A BF game with only bolt actions, limited semi autos, and LMG's, would be difficult to balance across 4 classes.
Nah
They can adjust rate of fire
Like give carbine variants twice as much RPM and give them to assault
they could've but they didn't.
I know
It bothers me in BFV too because while it's more accurate it also has many ''non existent'' weapons
it probably would've been possible but to be honest I don't think the DICE devs wanted to change up the gameplay that much.
Though I feel like they still changed it too much from BF4.
Like, for what it's worth, I like the Medic class in BF1.
@vale grail massive hypocrites, the only defense they had for disrespecting history is ‘just a game’, and here they are with BF1 not being authentic because too many smgs
I think SLR's are a fun weapon type to replace AR's with.
They typically reward accuracy, which is nice to see.
Would've been better if they kept the removal of visual recoil from BF4 tho.
Also removed suppression's effects on spread while making it mostly a visual/auditory effect.
but they didn't.
Who is hypocrite?
Not me I don't think BFV or BF1 either are accurate historically
I think BF1 does a worse job when it comes to gameplay and V does it worse when it comes to story and cosmetics
There are some skins with modern cargo pants and kevlars in BFV lol
BF1 could've been a lot better gameplay wise.
Both games compromise on gameplay and historical accuracy just because of the setting they're in
And the result is poor at best
Type 2A is the reason why they should've made it more historically accurate in BFV
eh, aren't there guns that are just as good in BFV?
Real life counterpart had half the RPM
Type 2A has higher RPM than Suomi/Tommy, while also having less recoil and better specilizations, like you can go light bolt in Type 2A with 1200 rpm and 30 round mag, if you go light bolt in Suomi or Tommy you will get 900 rpm and 20 round mag
Type 2A requires 1 more shot to kill compared to Suomi or Tommy but honestly it doesn't matter when it's too fast already with more ammo to spare
I mean, if it's so good then why do people use the ZK-383?
ZK won't win against Type 2A in 1v1 lol
ZK is good because it's a jack of all trades weapon that performs well in every area
A Suomi can win against ZK in 1v1 but can't against Type 2A
No SMG can
I don't have issues with Suomi or Tommy because they have high recoil, you can win against them with slow firing weapons with good accuracy, Type 2A has non existent recoil
and AEK
hey, didn't Lab ask you a question
why'd you dodge that
you can't just duck out of a convo and expect us to not notice.
you're dodging the question again
worst thing ever in a video game
did you ask me a question
did you ask me a question.
Okay, ignoring you is not the same thing that's happening here
you were asked a question, and then you dodged it
dropped out of the convo and then came back like nothing happened
take the aek out of the game
Also unrelated but the weapon displayed is actually Type 1A
Real life Type 2A looked more similar to MAB
Also, BF4 weapons don't have that much recoil in the first place, the ACE23, F2000, and FAMAS are all just as good as the AEK
Plus it was 11 years ago
insert game was x years ago
like, i think you were just bad, and are chronically mad about it
owned
you still didn't answer Lab's question by the way
bro is thinking i'm mad 💀
bro is still yapping
i'm just speaking facts to ya my guy
idk the name of thsr emoji
i pointed out your hypocrisy first my ally
what hypocrisy
Real life Type 2 would be a better gun honestly from a balance point
Lab asked you that, you didn't answer
600 rpm, 50 round mag, bayonet attachment
Yeah
Okay
you’re right actually
cod ww2 also used the correct type 2 nambu
odd
I also wish they used Mark 5 Stens
With foregrip, pistol grip and a wooden stock
It looks cooler despite being less iconic imo
Mark 5 also had bayonet option which is always a plus
strange how the most far fetched gun in ww2 was probably the AK47 prototype, while Vanguard has outright laser weapons
Damn..
AS-44 really looks like proto AK
Similar barrel, receiver and mag
AK's bolt is very different I assume though
It's funnily inspired by M1 Garand
Sweats murder Type 2A users with the ZK. Type 2A is formidable at spitting distance but useless otherwise.
I really wish people wouldn't use sweats as a shorthand for people that are good at the game
Well the word works (as you knew exactly what I meant).
well yeah, but still. just wish people would be more honest about it.
Being called a sweat is like being accused of cheating (when you’re not) - it’s a compliment 🙂
yeah but it's also people derriding others for being better than them, acting like that fact is the problem, not the fact that they are simply not good at the game.
The only time I have an issue with top players is when they stack a server together on the same team and ruin the matches (spawn camp within 5 mins).
but here's the thing with that. people that are good at the game, are likely to be friends with other people that are good at the game.
Are people that are good at the game just not allowed to play with friends?
Me and my guys switch teams when we end up on the stacked team.
I’m not talking one squad
What is really funny is when certain top players rage quit on those occasions it’s the other way round.
I imagine most "top 2042 players" are actively sick of the game at this point, but likely play it for streaming/youtube content purposes.
and at that point I can't exactly blame them for leaving matches if they don't feel like sticking around, they don't exactly have to prove anything to anyone, they've got a following already.
I left 2042 after 10 days, my perspective is regarding BFV.
makes sense.
i think the issue about innacuracy could just be solved with a mod to fix the skins on mp and sp, just like there is for bf1
It could be as innacurate as possible and I wouldn’t even notice
Such things just don’t really bother me
i dont mind inaccuracy when it comes to weapons since its for better gameplay and besides teaches you about unknown weapons of the war
but something as simple as a model that can be changed in no time
Although I can understand your discontentment since they went and said both bf1 and v were meant to be these super immersive ww2 experiences
i mean bf1 is somewhat acceptable
on bfv its deadass a warzone lobby with trails and wacky ass uniforms
if they only kept the bfv models simple and non-customizable
I love sliding around with my Tom Cruise skin and a golden shotgun 😎
hello guys i have problem, my battlefield 1 doesnt want to launch on steam and ea, what should i do?
I don’t understand how people get 70+ kills with fighter planes like how do you even have to the time to fly back to resupply so many times, the most I get is 30 kills with fighter planes in bf5
Anyone know a trick or something
With the spitfire I always shoot all 4 missiles at enemies, and when I shoot one or two I only do like 60 damage to enemies
is it nust me or is Reclaimed on b2042 similar to a map on 2
bf4
bf4 had more heights tho in the mid buildings
It takes inspiration from Zavod
yeahhhhh
hello guys i have problem, my battlefield 1 doesnt want to launch on steam and ea, what should i do?
uninstall and download again
part of it could be down to the faction imbalance, but they probably just know dogfighting principles and have good enough situational awarness to not die instantly
Playstation
for bf1, how often you zeroing sniper rifles?
never
I just got used to the base zeroing, more natural that way
you just need to learn drop for one preset over several
Anyone willing to help me get the plat on bfv death from above is the only trophy I’m missing and I suck at flying so I have zero towards it but it’s only five times
Hi guys do you like bf1 or bf5 more?
...I hate both games. Neither game is good, they both just have different issues.
And what Battlefield you like?
BF4/BF Hardline.
naaaah
It was a refractor era BF game, it was clunky as shit cause it's old.
The only reason people give a shit about it now is cause Project Reality exists and even then that is mostly irrelevant by Squad and Arma existing.
wooo squad we love squad yeaah
we love squad except for when we don't
Hey guys 👋, I’ve just hosted a battlefield 5 Hardcore server If anybody would like to join? Server name is - Hardcore 200% limited hud
Most of the players here love hardcore
🤣
i'mma keep it a buck with you my guy ain't nobody playing BFV Hardcore
Yeah I figured that. I remember bfv hardcore servers being quite common though.. now it’s dead af, Wich is unfortunate bcs hardcore servers are 🔥
...I can only imagine the absolute specimens that play BFV Hardcore.
probably on the same level as people that run Hardcore Crouch Only servers on older PC CoD's.
Lmao, whatever u say buddy 😂
Shi used to be quite popular when I first started playing, now it’s virtually non existent
naturally people do get better at the video game
and then they don't have to play hardcore anymore.
kind of a misnomer actually.
I just prefer the hardcore for the no hud and higher damage, it’s less Arcady Wich is what some people enjoy, people don’t run around like lunatics (as much) but each to their own, if ur not a hardcore fan just say so😂
I play both hardcore and non hardcore, it’s just a change 🤷🏻♂️
i mean I just think the name is inaccurate.
it's not really making the game any harder, if anything the game is easier when people are generally less aware and everyone has less HP.
Makes the game better for us older generation of players, sometimes I cba having to unload half a mag to kill somebody. Personal preference.
I was just curious if anybody wanted to join the server with higher damage and less hud and I’m fully aware nobody’s interested in the whole hardcore stuff
Bro. I wasn’t being serious when I meant half a mag
Cheers bro 👊, I’ll give it a go.
Can’t guarantee much tho, people don’t tend to do much server advertising here in general
Alr, it was worth a try though 🙂
Creative liberties taken to showcase prototype concept guns is more understandible, and even so it still respected WW1's history with the codex. We don't see that for the bombers, guns, locations or anything overall in BFV. Only inkling of 'accuracy' is The Last Tiger, and even then it's horridly censored.
Can’t stand it
BFV by far for me (although BF1 had better atmosphere/looked more beautiful).
wait theres no codex entries on bfv?
and how did they get last tiger wrong isnt it not based on any real story
No, none at all. No codex, no accuracy, it's so sanitized and re-written it should be called science fiction
Surprisingly it actually is, and what they got 'wrong' was the lack of actual National Socialist imagery.
omg this story is so interesting
now im pissed off at dice for being inaccurate at portraying cool ass stories like this
Just came across my first suspected hacker... underground map 150 kills and 3 deaths with the most accurate mg42 ever....
He died 3 times tbf
With 150 kills😂 and running and gunning with a mg42

Yeah. You still on?
yep
Sent you a dm.
When new Battlefield? 👀
later
is 1000 kills with martini henry good enough?
Anyone willing to join a community match on bfv need two to start trying to get a trophy for the plat
What do you mean? (Could have taken you 8 years to get them). What’s your KPM with it?
I just hate mfs who join ur squad just to spam order request then when they end up getting leader they kick u out and all the point u gained is gone
It's funny cause it's always a higher lvl at the bottom of the leaderboard going negative
Yo what's up kp been a minute u still playing bf5?
hey guys is bfV still active? I haven't been on BF for a long time now
Yep, just got back after a 3 month break on Overwatch 😎
Guilty as charged 😂
🤣
Same I been on a break too
Yep atleast on xbox it is probably not as much on pc
Bfv on Xbox usually has like 15 servers
Or if you play both EU & US East, even more than that
U still play?
We should play again sometime I got a mic
Yeah, that would be good
I need some better players on my squad anyways and I know u good asf
I'm decent just not as good as u
I should be on tonight and am always glad to have company in the game 👍
I’m not as good as I was, still getting back into it
Just did the peacekeeper unlock in (1:57:21) Raw/(1:35:17) No Loads
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2275648384
I got them under 200 hours playing
0.94 KPM
That’s not too bad
All my time I have just been playing Combined Arms and not multiplayer.
okay?
Nothing’s stopping you from playing it still
I mean, you could just not cheat.
I really don't understand why people cheat
Other than the fact that they are subhuman filth
Yeah, git good
They just didn't want to program more than five vehicles.
I second this, it's insane that people literally hack a game and then have the gall to cry about their accounts getting banned.
It's like robbing a store and then throwinh a hissy fit when cops taze you.
When do you get your coins when you complete a story mode?
Come play True Hardcore Rush with us 🪖
SERVERS LIVE 🕙🇺🇸
Just Search Sweats and you'll see
{SWEATS ANONYMOUS} RUSH HARDCORE |NO-BOT~FULL-XP|
Fuck 2042s one tap!
Those who make hacks or distribute them are the ones who should be crucified ngl
Ppl cheat in monopoly, poker, chess and single players
That does not answer the question though.
Poker, you stand to gain money from.
Not everyone thinks that it screws the time for others, apart from that It is probably difficult to generalize the urge to cheat
Anyway, there is always dirty play in football Something that is considered normal due to the nature of the game
Heard that 5% win, the rest lose money. True or false ?
Nice scam bro
I had someone trying to buy my fortnite account through reddit the other day lol, had no idea account buying was so prevalent
Bruh kp I got some funny to show u check dms rq
This guy calling me a cheat on xbox and he says he gets a higher up that's works at microsoft🤣
I killed him 3x in bf5
He said he has over 200 bans this month on console and he supplies info to all fps companies
I just told him I'm Jeff bezos
He must be a special lil guy
He is he doesn't even make a complete sentence right
Best compliment you can have is being called a cheater 😂
Don’t recognise the GT
Hi guys
which gamemode in bf1 is the best for getting kills?
Probably conquest or team deadmach
And do you guys know how to get the gas mask kill? Because I tried it and it didn't work
war pigeons
go prone inside of an enemy and keep spamming gas mask
I tried it and it didn't work
sometimes ur just unlucky, it's not like it works 100% everytime
Ok thanks bro
Bro, nice I have 150 kills and scout level 50😂
What is your bf1 nickname?
such a shame
John Battlefield
Hello, I need help with a problem I have considering BFV and part of the community.
there should be bf1 servers with monte grappa only
its the best map and a lot of people think the same way
I hate the planes on that map.
Well Tank combat is addicting
imo its not that bad
still this map is the best
What are you on? PS4/xbox or pc?
pc
Lucky. For ps/xbox players planes are a big problem
Controller is dumb easy for planes compared to MnK
Oh my god the M1 Carbine is so much fun
Fr especially on xbox 😭
And it's all because cheats are so prevalent
its fake player count
not real ai bot on the map
It is, BF1's got a lot of anachronistic elements with the gunplay and weapons overall but they were real prototypes and a hypothetical 'what-if' scenario on what the war'd look like had they been mass produced and saw frontline service. At least with 1 the history was respected, in V it was nothing short of a corrupt company chasing a demographic that doesn't exist pissing on the memories of those who suffered...
I usually don't side with the Legion (FallOut: New Vegas) but the phrase; "Degenerates belong on a cross" applies I'd argue.
Funnily enough, Monopoly is based off of places in New Jersey.
I remember when playing BFV required a college degree because of so many "uneducated" gamers.
Not on Xbox they’re not
Xbox and PS both have cheats 
When you're fighting Frankenstein robot men and giant cyborg dogs and that game (Wolfenstein) respects WWII's atrocities better than whatever the fyuck BFV is.
I cannot stress this enough, alternate history works when the time period is respected. Look at Assassin's Creed (before it went to shit after Black Flag), Wolfenstein, and Black Ops 1 and 2. All these games are fictitious retellings of various eras of history but they still work because they respect the reality of what truly happened.
Even CoD WWII (2017) had its moments (not the train, fuck that shit)
Vanguard had a decent campaign for its historic setting. Same with Cold War
It’s not bad but it’s good
Very rare
Mmm 🤔 not really
The 3rd party devices got sold out constantly. They sold over millions of them.
Maybe billions 
I could tell you the known cheaters on XBox BFV
In one server 
If it’s that prevalent - it does not work very well.
lol. On Amazon. It sold 4k+ within last 30days Aka last month of them 
What I’m saying is when I play i am top of the scoreboard anyway (so let them cheat if that’s what you believe).
All I know is a lot of people cry “cheat!” at people who are not.
That is a big issue in gaming. In general
Cold Bore was lukewarm at best, it was decent but the henious butchering of Woods and Mason along with Hudson as characters is something that sucked bootycheeccs
Vanguard was just.... christ why
Their is in fact none to little Cheater's on xbox
U act like they buy that just to cheat on a 5 year old game
And what are those so called 3rd party devices?
Xim4s?
Cronus?
Users that's use these devices mostly use it to use kbm anyways
Reddit/twitter and the damn cronus(on amazon) reviews would tell u that
Hey, I'm having 2 issues with Battlefield right now. It doesn't open on the EA app. I've tried going to the forum, but it's not letting me post on there for whatever reason. I've tried reinstalling BFV, the EA app, clearing the cache, and repairing BFV, and nothing works. I just see the tiny pop up, it loads, then a white Frostbite screen opens for a solid second before closing. Can someone here help or send me to somewhere/someone that can help?
Most reviews isn’t about using MnK on console 
So that’s false
Cheaters will cheat on ANY game. Even the new ones cuz it’s popular
Xbox and PS both have cheaters. So that’s false. Most people stay on PS4 for PS side due to PS5 blocking those devices when detected. Most cheaters on PS5 bought a PS4 for that reason.
"GUYS I got shit on he must be cheating" type mf
Basically none
You bring up English problem in a cheater topic 

