battlefield-legacy-titles

[solid carbon]

pls dont

also its 1pm here so most people aren't at home

[charred spoke]

oh

so when is the good time to play

[solid carbon]

4pm was the most active time iirc, so in like 3 hours

[charred spoke]

👍

[drifting cedar]

Does anyone know any NA bf1 servers?

[junior patio]

go to server pick thingy

[distant ice]

Operations are lively but any mode has players

[formal ivy]

Are you using Matchmaking or Server Browser? Gotta use the latter

[dusk moat]

Gotta love hitting people with the SMLE/Pistol combo

Plus I need it to get muh obrez

Got 4 kills last match like that, ONE away from the gun unlock

[charred spoke]

conquest and then mixed maps

[dusk moat]

Fr, Chauchat/Martini Henry my beloveds

[formal ivy]

Yeah you have to use server browser :/

[charred spoke]

👍

[formal ivy]

Two whole weeks of YouTube videos "bf1 in 2024!" Meanwhile NONE of them showed how to actually get into a game, luckily this discord along with reddit and other YouTube vids cleared it up

[dusk moat]

Server browser my guy

Those who played source games know

[wet fossil]

Server browser's no good here

There's like two servers left that run custom settings (bad ones too) so you need to fiddle with the search just to find them

[junior torrent]

https://streamable.com/5249jo

a clip from BF4

👁️

[solid carbon]

i only see a link

[junior torrent]

well sorryyyyyyyy for still not having embed perm

[solid hinge]

My battlefield V won’t load on pc, it starts to and shows in the taskbar then just closes, does anyone know any fixes? I’ve gone on ea app and cleared cache and also restarted in task manager the ea service stuff

[upper berry]

Is it on DX11?

Did you even try looking up the issue on the internet?

Do you have the recommended requirements?

Is your GPU drivers updated?

[toxic phoenix]

I had exact same issue, reinstall EA app completly and its gonna run, at least it did for me

[solid hinge]

Just reinstalling the game atm, I’ve got plenty others to play so if it don’t work I’ll leave it

[vale grail]

PS5 is worth it if you've desire to play physical games and VR too.

I've got it on PSN.

[honest urchin]

Hi, guys. Is anybody know what with Battlefield 3 CO OP? We tried to play with friend but can't connect to each other

[frigid veldt]

Posted

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🤯 Never let 'em know your next move 🫡

🎬 u/navyproud34

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Sep 26, 2024, 9:36 PM

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[ashen shell]

can we customize feet in next bf????

[twin cargo]

bf5 anyone?

squad 1

[shell oasis]

Calling all bf4 players add me PSN same name as discord

[hollow minnow]

I have PC bro

[shell oasis]

Add me as I’m always on it and fed up of nobody to talk to

Especially game mode

[quartz scaffold]

guys can someone help me grind?

i need 20 more infantry kills in an aerial vehicle

[quartz scaffold]

did you try launching the app from the ea app?

[spare dragon]

anyone else is missing class assignments?

[solid hinge]

Does anyone know how you can like launch yourself out of your jet on BF4 on console instead of just falling out of your jet?

[lofty ermine]

What are best chill servers in?

[random blade]

If I remember correctly I think you need to hold jump and press the exit button

[lofty ermine]

How do I disable the laser on a weapon in ?

[solid carbon]

V or X iirc

[lofty ermine]

Thanks fam

[solid carbon]

[lofty ermine]

@solid carbon Edit: I meant how to disable it by default

To avoid disable it every time

[solid carbon]

i dont think thats possible

[lofty ermine]

Unless I unequip my weapon of the laser

[solid carbon]

yep

[lofty ermine]

Darn

Thanks anyways, fam

[solid carbon]

[lofty ermine]

MX4 = best ingeneer weapon

[vale grail]

Odd, it should 'auto eject' you by pressing the 'leave vehicle' button

[brazen sentinel]

Sparrow?

Who still does bf4 Milsim on Xbox!?

@shell oasis

[solid hinge]

Does M2 Slams or C4 do more damage when attached to a vehicle like a tank?

because they both come in 3

[livid bay]

I’m pretty sure C4. I’ve completely destroyed a tank with 3 C4s before but could never do it with M2s

[upper berry]

Did you ever find the solution?

[cold flame]

Hello, does anyone play BFV or BF2042 in China? I'm having the 'you seem to be offline' error message and tried everything to make it work

[formal crest]

i think my friend is having that issue too, but in the USA. when he researched it, it seems to still be an unsolved mystery

[tropic vortex]

Only a PC problem

[solid hinge]

Reinstalling it worked for a moment but crashed again, just uninstalled fully now I’ll find another game

[upper berry]

Try to run the game as admin

[boreal wraith]

Anyone got any good battlefield 1 servers to join? I just recently got the game back and it's only giving me the option to one server to join in. Any other game I tried joining is got like three people at most

[lofty ermine]

Does someone have an equivalent of the MX4 but recharges faster?

[sterile jolt]

How can I unlock class mastery assignments in BFV?

I’ve reached to level 20 yet they aren’t in my assignments tab

[spare dragon]

its a bug. you will have to contact ea for support

[cerulean terrace]

In order to complete operations codex do I have to play only when dice make operation campaign event or are they still valid if a play on a normal operation server?

[solid hinge]

will someone play bf1? squad 1

[solid carbon]

#lfg-pc

[solid hinge]

Bf1 is so gosh damn good

[vale grail]

Could be due to the Chinese censorship guidelines blocking the game, it's the only guess I can feasibly make.

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

I guess I'll do

[old sonnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1frevgn/ukraine_is_using_vampire_drones_to_drop_robot/ i hope we get robo dog again in the next Battlefield

[cold flame]

It's definitely blocked here, as are 1000's of other games, but usually with the Chinese Ping Helper apps ( a kind of VPN) I'm able to play absolutely everything... except BFV and BF2042! Last year they worked, but EA put somekind of Anti-VPN measures up I think

anyways , thanks for replying , glad I'm not the only sucker with this 'Ea offline' issue

I'll try with another VPN see if it helps ( I doubt it)

[sterile jolt]

I want to see BFV's movement in BF6 honestly

Such as leaning, controllable slide, rolling and prone states

[young saddle]

Yo dice pls cook

[young saddle]

[dusk ice]

Yo dice give us modding tools like bf2

[south radish]

Made me think of the 700mb worth of lightmap samples you needed to download, but then at like 300kb/s

[dusk ice]

300kb ain't bad

[south radish]

At that time i was happy, really

[dusk ice]

Try 300kb with warzone bro

[south radish]

https://tenor.com/view/look-away-ricardo-salusse-all-star-shore-s1e9-avert-gaze-gif-26369595

[modern wigeon]

battlefield 1 best

the ping sound of snipers are satisfyin

[solid hinge]

So are the hit and kill sounds in BF5

[vale grail]

They probably did that because there were hackers going about through VPNs to bypass EA account bans.

[wooden cypress]

very confused on the instructions. I got EA installed, I don't think I got EA/Origin helper disabled, idk where "plugin-free game launching" in my profile settings and I tried both Firefox and chrome to open Battlefield 3

[untold ice]

will the next battlefield game be good

yo @vagrant sail , will the next battlefield game be good ? Or do we have to wait 2 years for it to be stable and then it get dropped after another year

if the next game sucks as much at launch as bf5 and 2042 , can u guys make another mirror's edge before EA closes you down too

[astral saffron]

I'm hoping and praying it will be good

If it's not I might retire from gaming

[untold ice]

the folx who made bf1 left

[astral saffron]

Yes but I'm hoping Vince and Byron pulled everyone's heads outta their respective asses and told them to lock in

[untold ice]

if whoever decided that the bf5 trailer should have a cyborg lady with a cricket bat still works at dice/ea , we have no hope

[astral saffron]

He could be a janitor but that's it

Although it was probably a she let's be honest...

[wooden cypress]

Well shit, I remember hearing that Rump3l (the guy who did cry of fear) was hired at dice but has mostly doing music so idk

[untold ice]

it s insane how bf5 and 2042 had the same problem but opposite

[astral saffron]

(I think I just broke some discord rules for sexism)

[untold ice]

bf5 was alright with a shitty trailer and 2042 had an awesome trailer and it was awful at launch

[astral saffron]

Make BF 3.4

[untold ice]

ayy lmao , there s a comment on the 2042 trailer youtube page that describes it perfectly

`It's like watching your parents wedding video after they divorced

`

[astral saffron]

Haha saw that one

[untold ice]

that was hardline

[astral saffron]

Make bf 4.3 lol

[untold ice]

hardline was so good

[astral saffron]

I hope EA grows a pair and puts China in the game again

If it's set in 2027 China would be a huuuuuge player in any war

[untold ice]

what makes me sad is this trailer proves that they know what their fans want and what they’re expecting, and they just chose not to do it

lol

[astral saffron]

It proves the trailer team should make the game and not the trailers lol

[untold ice]

lel

it s crazy how awful the bf5 trailer is

the trailer for the paciific dlc is very good

and the bf1 trailers were awesome

[astral saffron]

It literally starts with a giant horse nose taking up the whole screen 😂

[untold ice]

especially apocalypse

[astral saffron]

Followed by a cyborg woman fighting on the front lines in the Netherlands.... lmao like what???

[untold ice]

which one are you talking about

[astral saffron]

The reveal trailer

And the audacity to change the Norwegian storyline and make it a daughter and mother when irl it was like a dozen guys

[untold ice]

oh yeah

[astral saffron]

Completely disrespectful

[untold ice]

wtf

now that you brought it up

it makes no sense

[astral saffron]

You can't just change history and try to take the glory away from the actual people of the time just because they were men

[untold ice]

is it a horse?

anyway

[astral saffron]

The statue thing is a horse head

Reverse sexism is strong at DICE

[untold ice]

the trailer starts with marble horse head , a teddybear and 2 beers on the side of the tank

which i think is a churchill

wtf

i am rewatching the bf5 trailer now

[astral saffron]

How the hell do they go from BF1 to V in two years?? 😂😂😀

Absolute disgrace

Bring back rated M warfare and voice lines... Also let's be honest even today 90% of combat roles are men. So let's make the classes and skins MEN

Not 50/50 for "inclusiveness"

[untold ice]

jesus christ , it's worse than i ve remembered

[astral saffron]

😑

[untold ice]

the 1/3 makes no sense

the 2nd third shows the new gameplay features like the crouch running and getting blown away and stuff like the v2 rocket and the fortifications which is fine

and the last 3rd goes back to nonesense

[astral saffron]

Trevor Noah doing the reveal event 💀💀💀

"the most immersive battlefield"

[untold ice]

it's incredible

bf5 could had gotten away with just being bf5 with a ww2 skin

i commend them for choosing greece and norway for the maps

but i dont get why they didnt commit all the way with the player models

[astral saffron]

"hey let's make a ww2 game about the lesser known battles, but let's make sure to satisfy absolutely nobody by trying to change history"

[untold ice]

why i am fighting as Sergeant Daquan against Oberleutnant Tashimoto in Norway

[astral saffron]

I can't 😂

[untold ice]

and they had the nerve to say : don't like it , don't buy it

and bf5 barely got a dlc

[astral saffron]

How dare you speak of the objectively superior content model 😡

It got chapters because live service is better 😎

[untold ice]

is there any game which managed to pull the battlepass format besided fortnite?

[astral saffron]

Oddly enough Halo Infinite did a good job at it

[untold ice]

i dont see any point in buying cosmetics for battlefield

[astral saffron]

Every pass is always available

I like that concept a lot

[untold ice]

i played a lot of tf2 which arguably started the lootbox trend but at least there u can trade your items

so at least u have a reason to gamble

[untold ice]

that s good

I HAVE NO REASON TO GET COSMETICS IN BATTLEFIELD GAMES

maybe the higher ups will see this

[astral saffron]

Battlefield should go back to earnable cosmetics and make their money from game sales, server rentals, and DLCs which means go back to premium lol

[untold ice]

bf5's cosmetics werent that bad but they should had restricted them based on the maps

[astral saffron]

Agreed

Woah that's a white thumbs up... Has to be at least 👍🏿

[untold ice]

lel

[astral saffron]

(I'm definitely getting banned from this server lol)

[untold ice]

my wish is that the next battlefield will bring portal 2 with most of the older games remastered and start a bf eco system

[astral saffron]

And a map editor/builder similar to forge

[untold ice]

yes

[astral saffron]

And mode creator

[untold ice]

tf2 still has way more players than most of the battefield titles

and it s almost 20 years old

[astral saffron]

It's because it's good

[untold ice]

and it still makes valve a lot of money

[astral saffron]

BF hasn't released a good title in 8 years

[untold ice]

5 is alright

[astral saffron]

Peak irrelevancy

[untold ice]

some of the mapst suck

but the crouch running , the call ins and the fortifications are good

[astral saffron]

BFV was a 5/10 BF which makes it a 7/10 FPS

[untold ice]

lel

they still have to top bf1 presentation

and they never will

[young saddle]

Amemus

[astral saffron]

2042 was the close tbh

Not sure if you are talking trailer or launch

Watch Elon buy EA and rename Battlefield to Xfield lol

[untold ice]

what

how

[astral saffron]

Are you talking trailers or launch?

[untold ice]

bf2042 presentation in general

it doesnt hold a candle against 1

[astral saffron]

The trailers I'd argue were right there with 1 up until launch when everything fell apart

[untold ice]

when you capture a sector in operations in 1 , the music swells up and everybody scream and you push forward

2042 doesnt even come close to that

[astral saffron]

So you aren't talking trailers? You are talking launch?

[untold ice]

the 1st trailer for 2042 is awesome

[untold ice]

i am talking about the game overall

[astral saffron]

Well presentation doesn't imply that lol

BF1 is miles better than 2042

[untold ice]

i thought presentation meant the atmosphere the game overall

not only the trailers

sry , english is not my 1st language

[astral saffron]

All good

Presentation generally means the first the impressions, or the selling/marketing of the product

[untold ice]

how do you call the graphics , music , theme and sound design of a game though

anyway

that screaming charge when you capture a sector in bf1 is unrivaled

[astral saffron]

I would say the "experience"

[untold ice]

i guess that would make sense

the worst thing about bf1 , is the lady announcer

i like her in the menu

[astral saffron]

You cane change that

Can*

[untold ice]

where she acts as a tour guide respectful of the events

can you choose something like an officer telling u to advance?

i know there s a make voice too but it s the same tonej

[astral saffron]

You can change it to a dude

[untold ice]

he still is a museum tour right?

[astral saffron]

?

[untold ice]

how does the dude say : "we've captured objective apples" ?

[astral saffron]

Uhhh

You just said it 😂

"we've captured objective butter"

[untold ice]

well yeah

in bf 4 , you d have someone radio in telling u u got an objective

i like bf1 for being very respectful towards the time period and having the operation screen and the intro cinematics trying to be historicaly accurate

that s great

and the announcer lady is very good outside the game

especially when telling the players about alt hist outcomes of the battles

[astral saffron]

Agreed

[untold ice]

but i dont like her in game

she feels out of place

[astral saffron]

I don't mind her but now that you pointed this out I might hate her next time I hop into a game lol

[untold ice]

in conquest she s alright

in operations she clashes with the music sometimes

[astral saffron]

I've honestly only played conquest a handful of times in 1

[untold ice]

me too

[astral saffron]

I'm always playing operations

[untold ice]

i only play operations

yeh

[astral saffron]

Same

[untold ice]

the first time ive played operations , i expected the objective announcer would be the same person from the intro cinematics

if u were to get a speech whenever you advanced a sector instead of the announcer lady , i wouldnt had minded her so much

it seems like the 2nd biggest missed opportunity

the 1st being not having 2 more dlcs

one in the colonial theatres (so they can add black people because they need too) and one in the balkans

hell , add a japanese dlc too

maybe if they have a soul in them , add some alt history too

mexico vs us for example

[untold ice]

i would had taken a dlc taking place in the east african campaign instead of turning tides to be honest

[jolly fog]

First game on BFV and cheater ended the game or something, I alt f4d. Is that common?

[old sonnet]

agree but limit the sliding 🙂

[frigid veldt]

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Be sure to send us your epic gameplay moments from the #Battlefield for a chance to be featured next! 🏆

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[graceful sleet]

Is there a way to link steam with another EA App account?

[robust dew]

It is possible, but I don't remember how it is done

[robust dew]

But are you about to lose count or something?

[graceful sleet]

i found it i think

[robust dew]

oh, good, What battlefield do you play?

[sour tiger]

I'm new here, returning player to Battlefeild on console. Anyone play on PS5?

[sterile jolt]

BFV is good

My favorite BF after 3

It has 2 big issues though

1- Anti cheat, I still see players with this setup

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Frcv2fszx5kc91.png

2- Lack of eastern front

BF1 has more WW2 Russian weaponry in it than BFV

If they also wanted to do ''woman in WW2'' aspect they should've added Russian campaign honestly

Soviet female snipers actually played a role in WW2

Also a minor nitpick which is lack of smoke grenades for assault and support class

They are extremely good in BFV

But only medic and recon can use them

I mostly play as medic and recon anyways but when I need an anti tank I can't go to the objective and destroy the tank due to lack of smokes and ending up in the crossfire on the way to objective

[random blade]

Will admit it’s crazy how often you could be on Iwo Jima for instance and nobody but yourself uses smokes

One medic can cover what feels like an entire push with just their starting smokes

[sterile jolt]

I gave BFV's slide as an example because it's not fast really, it's slow but controllable, 2042's slide however is fast but you can't control it that's why I don't like it, slide in BFV isn't faster than running or first jumping speed, first jumps are always faster in fact, subsequent jumps are slower though because of momentum

[livid bay]

Imo, they need to completely remove “tactical” sprinting in the next bf. There’s just no point to having 2 different sprint speeds

And I’m pretty sure they didn’t even do it right in 2042. Like, from what I’ve seen, tac sprinting doesn’t make aiming down sights take longer so there’s no point in normally sprinting

[heavy acorn]

hard rn

[solid hinge]

[random blade]

It seems to affect the sprint to fire times over ads speeds, so there’s that. But for the most part it’s there to offset the huge maps we had and still have for the most part. I’m indifferent as it’s removal won’t change too much for me

[obsidian hinge]

Tac sprint is just bad overall imo

[random blade]

I don’t hate or love it, but I’ll admit I always use it

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah I do in 2042 because otherwise people get the advantage. But as an overall feature. Shouldn't be in BF to begin with

[thick seal]

tac sprint bad. tac sprint only exist because 128. 128 bad.

[random blade]

128 people = multiplayer. Therefore multiplayer bad

[thick seal]

but 64 player good. multiplayer good.

[random blade]

happi

[tropic vortex]

Battlefield bad

[random blade]

unhappi

[blissful badger]

in BF1, is Burton the only gun with a bayonet that support has?

[robust dew]

I don't think so,probably have more support

[spare dragon]

anyone else missing their class assignments in bf5?

[west mirage]

Did DICE really nerf the Gewehr 43? Cuz it's still feels busted

[wet fossil]

SARs are generally underrated

Three shot kill at most reasonable ranges is not to be sneezed at

[west mirage]

I see, was annoyed getting killed by one especially on maps like Iwo Jima and Assault players having the ghillie suit skins

[wet fossil]

Those skins were a mistake

I believe that skins should be class locked

There's a bunch that are clearly meant for certain classes already

[west mirage]

Literally it's hard to spot some of them in the map especially on conquest

At least in Breakthrough it's linear

[wet fossil]

Like the ones carrying a whole heap of spare ammo obviously being for Support

[west mirage]

Also is there a way to grind the vehicles faster? since I just recently returned playing BFV

[wet fossil]

Not really. You're just gonna have to get them when you can

[young saddle]

amemus

[thick seal]

nope, you're stuck with your low level vehicles against fully leveled players for a while, enjoy

[graceful sleet]

1 and 5

there a way to reset BF1 stats?

[robust dew]

Well, if you want we can play sometime

[robust dew]

I think you can't do that

[plucky cairn]

How is battlefield 5?

[hollow sparrow]

@plucky cairn I know I may be in the minority but Battlefield 5 may be my favorite. Theres not much better than playing a round of breakthrough and taking over Iwo Jima.

[balmy grail]

whens the next news on new battlefield

[sterile jolt]

Gewehr 43 is okay but nowhere near as good as Gewehr 1-5 or Turner

So many people sleeps on Gewehr 1-5 despite it having 3 body shot potential up to 50 meters like the rest of the semi autos while also having 30 round mag and lightened stock

Turner is in somewhere between 43 and 1-5

Faster than 43 with bigger mag, better range and smaller mag size than 1-5

[west mirage]

Idk I usually ran across alot of Assault players using the Gewehr 43 than the 1-5 or Turner especially on large maps like Panzerstorm or Iwo Jima

[west mirage]

Man

[sterile jolt]

I think people sleep on 1-5 due to how ARlike it is

You need to be spammy which you might as well use an AR at that point

G43 is better than 1-5 and Turner at range though but honestly at that range might as well use a sniper

[sterile jolt]

Yes

People told me to ask for EA help but they don’t seem helpful

[hollow sleet]

I have intense lag issues in India for bf5

Need a fix guys

Ping if you guys have any

[young saddle]

Amogus

[obsidian hinge]

Amogsus

[frigid veldt]

Posted

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🫡 Push forward. Destroy the objectives. Hold the line. Frontlines has returned 💥 This week in #BF2042 👇

🔸Frontlines
🔹BF3 - Mon Ami
🔸2042 Air Superiority
🔹#FNB - Rush Chaos

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[wet fossil]

Company of Heroes 1 has a particular detail in its MG-42 that I've never seen in any other game, not even Battlefield

Namely, the thing actually has non-disintegrating belts that are visibly extracted from the chamber in one piece as it fires

BF1 has a few MGs with similar ones on its drum mags, but nothing like this is in V

COH is especially impressive here because that game came out in like 2008

And it's an RTS, so little details like that would never be missed

[lime bison]

Guys I have a question

Is Battlefield 4 still active? In 2024

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah pretty active for a decade old game

[quartz raven]

yes

[quartz raven]

how big is the community on Xbox for BF1?

[vale grail]

AMOGUS

[vale grail]

On PSN it is, can't speak for Xbox or PC.

[obsidian hinge]

Idk maybe as good as PS or PC I would say

[west mirage]

You know what I take it back, screw them also how the hell this gun kills so fast in close range especially if I have a Type-2A

Gewehr 1-5 is a bs gun no doubt

Got killed alot by this gun especially on high-level players

[tiny talon]

Some highlights from Battlefield 2 (2005) mod, hope you enjoy and maybe you join to us 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t75pde7SnFI

[sterile jolt]

Many SMGs and ARs has better damage output than Type 2A

Even obscure stuff like EMP which has a better TTK

[uneven cape]

if the medal asks to place on the top 5 of the round does this work if i join in a server with 5 people on my team

[west mirage]

Honestly I agree I started using the Thompson and that gun shreds especially on medium ranges

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

People use Type 2A because you have so many bullets with so much speed

It makes it seem OP

[wet fossil]

BF infantry meta has always tended towards having the largest magazine you can muster

Because none of these idiots can aim

Or they can and that makes them much more of a problem because now the fuckers don't even need to reload

Get rid of drum mags in 2042

[hasty marsh]

lmg go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[rich ember]

I mean, i think there are bigger problems than drum mags existing

[brisk wren]

so why did bfv have an update on steam >.....>

[vale grail]

New anti-cheat to improve security.

[brisk wren]

so does that mean bf1 got its anti cheat too?

[vale grail]

I'm not entirely sure, I'm on PSN.

[brisk wren]

odd well nice to see did notice a lack of a few cheaters that werfe getting pretty blatent

[vale grail]

Imagine if they put that much effort into their games on the regular instead of making cosmetics and shit.

Also welcome to the server.

[brisk wren]

ohhhhh ive been here on and off since beta test for bf1 i just dont like having servers to games i dont play clutering discord

@vale grail so just me or do tank shells seem to curve at you? im guessing tank and plane hit detection is client side ?

[vale grail]

Fuck if I know outside of the fact I watched multiple direct hits not register.

[brisk wren]

shrugs bf1 made more since bfv its wierddddd

[vale grail]

And the shells curve depending on what angle you're on

[vale grail]

BF1 was made by a bunch of passionate developers that made a love letter to history, BFV was so horridly restrictive and censored with all the revisionism crap it caused said passionate developers to quit en mass creating a massive vacuum in company members that knew how to make Battlefield games.

That and on top of 2042 just being a shit game by design, it's a miracle that DICE and EA aren't filing for bankruptcy.

[limber bough]

EA still have their cash cows

[brisk wren]

makes me wonder hmmm bf1 and bfv are both frostbite. what is reaalllly stopping the devs from going back. i mean the balance in both is bad. bfv the k31 hads semi hit detection and the infer basically crashes people

[brisk wren]

odd cause the earnings calls and my stocks in ea say other wise

[limber bough]

So they aren't making money anymore?

[brisk wren]

ohhh they are just not on pc or consoles

most here have forgotten that ea has a massive moblie department

why do you think they tried forcing the battlefield app on us

[rich ember]

They scrapped mobile battlefield like, a year or two ago.

[vale grail]

Simple, they're not the same group of developers and BF1's on an older version of frostbite that they're not trained on.

[limber bough]

Their mobile revenue is smaller than their PC revenue though

unless im reading these stats wrong

[vale grail]

Even if they were I highly doubt they're breaking even, even Disney said that they've gone too far and gotten greedy. Fucking Dinsey!

[brisk wren]

you do realize how frostbite works??? its not easy but its far more cost effective to update the engines

[vale grail]

The game won't magically update if you change the engine, that's like putting a modern V8 into a Model T. Neither are compatible.

[brisk wren]

public stats and the stuff share holders get is usually a bit different as they cant give the public a full picture

[vale grail]

And yet they expect people to pay into something that's only partial data? Honestly if you're buying stocks that're going into something you can only get a glimpse at then it's on you if it goes to shit.

[brisk wren]

frostbite is an odd engine but you do realise that consoles you a generation older frostbite then the pc version ?

[vale grail]

Even so, the current developers are all the people hired to replace the ones who left during BFV's development. They don't have training on the older varients of the frostbite engine.

And even if they did I've been asking for months for a legacy of life update for BF1 but I didn't get shit in terms of progress.

[brisk wren]

shrugs fair enough.

ill just stop fighting it and be a good boy and eat the newest slop

[vale grail]

They've got one Ace in The Hole with the TitanFall 2 developer spearheading the next Battlefield game, they better not burn it.

[vale grail]

What the actual hell are you on about, no one's saying to play or buy into BFV or 2042.

You can just play the older games like I do.

[rich ember]

as xDefiant has shown, do not discount the possibility of a game being bad just because someone from a good game is involved with it.

[brisk wren]

now i never said that buttttt ok

[vale grail]

Hell, the campaign alone for Bad Company 2 is more fun in one level than the entirety of 2042's multiplayer.

[rich ember]

Titanfall 2 was good because of everyone working on it, not just one guy.

[vale grail]

you literally just did man...

[brisk wren]

sigh

i have bfv and 2042 in fact im playing v right now

[vale grail]

Because of the lead guy's directing helping out with the game's core design. He's working solo with DICE to make the next Battlefield game as far as I remember without any Respawn people joining in.

[vale grail]

ok?

[rich ember]

still. don't discount the possibility. one guy alone does not make a good game.

[vale grail]

I know, that's why I'm calling him the Ace in The Hole, it's a guarantied win for DICE if they're smart about it.

I'm holding out a tepidly lukewarm hope but they better bring the heat if they expect more than that from me and anyone else.

That being said, BFV crashing literally every single time I try to load into a multiplayer game is insane!

I literally have to join a server twice to actually play.

[limber bough]

It's a feature at that point

[hasty marsh]

2042 is still frostbite

[brisk wren]

i know thisd

every game since bf1 is frostbite so save on costs

[hasty marsh]

every game since bf4 is on frostbite 3

[brisk wren]

mhm but frostbite 3 wasnt based on the frostbite engine. it was a modded engine. frostbite 4 was in house

[solid hinge]

battlefield 4 really mastered frostbite 3's features

but they really toned that down game by game, except for the graphics

[violet mist]

my battlefield hardline progress appears on the battlelog website, but when i start up the game it's stuck at the start, and i can only start the prologue

if anyone knows a solution to this, please let me know

[brisk wren]

i believe hardline servers where all shut down a few months back no?

[violet mist]

i was playing ok a couple days or a week ago, and i could also play a bit of the multiplayer

unless it's just the cloud saves and the official servers that got screwed

reinstalling the game rn, gonna see if that solves it

i also found online it might have something to do with windows defender, but didn't find a concrete solution

[cloud seal]

why bf3 servers showing full players but when i join its empty no one play lol ?

[brisk wren]

so is it just me or scoping in with the m3 infer insta crashes you ? EDIT. this is bfV and the k31 still has dodgy hit reg

[wet fossil]

It’s a deliberately exploited bug by server owners. Bf4 had the same problem

[half sequoia]

Anyone tryna play battlefield V I'm on PlayStation

[west mirage]

Pretty much my reason especially on BFV, I usually get 3-5 multi kills especially on breakthrough

[tropic vortex]

They should get rid of conquest since BT is the main mode now

[upper berry]

he knows what’s up

[unique harbor]

Whom here knows about this? https://youtu.be/0vqMfcD1-OY?si=N-Fs7uJMQ3KW-Dzc

[limber bough]

Totally not a bot

[unique harbor]

Me? No, I'm human 🙂 It's a link to the Battlefield inspired show called Rush.

[solid carbon]

thats exactly what a bot would say

[unique harbor]

lol, no worries man

[tropic vortex]

👽 ^

[worldly dune]

I think bf1 > bf42

[lofty cedar]

Quick Question can i Start Battlefield V without an Internet connection?

[tropic vortex]

bf 2042 > bf1 > bf42

[worldly dune]

Na lowkey they should revive bf1 if they want battlefield to rival cod again bf1 best bf game

[tropic vortex]

They made apex to rival cod bud

[rich ember]

why

[worldly dune]

😢

we need xbox to rival playstation

Same way we need bf to rival cod

Life is empty without rivalries

Like a batman without a joker

https://tenor.com/view/batman-we'll-take-it-from-here-pee-gif-124930185628804608

How life feels rn

[urban canopy]

Since they said they'd do community testing early next year, do you think we'll see bf6 gameplay in like February, March? That'd be earlier than what we're used to.

[worldly dune]

It better be smthing set in recent times or the past

They already proved they can’t pull off the future thing right 😭

[unreal zenith]

Imagine bf4 free for all

[west mirage]

Nah, Conquest is still my go to mode since it's more open unlike BT. I only play BT when I want more intensity

[vale grail]

More like a featured reason not to pre-order whatever the fuck comes next.

[vale grail]

literally any hardcore server

[vale grail]

They did well enough with 2142, the Final Fronts BF4 DLC had the beginings of the 2142 storyline seen with the hover tanks, the titan hovership and Giants of Corellia map.

[ionic iris]

😧🥃

[modern wigeon]

yes

w opinion

wtf is 2042 even eww

id be happy if they make battlefield 3 alive again

[tropic vortex]

You should always pre order, what can go wrong?

[tropic vortex]

Thing about conquest is that it attracts alot of new players and it becomes boring with easy kills after about 200 hours even with sweats in the mix, BT is always competitive

[solid hinge]

Yo, just curious I’m playing assault in battlefield five and are there any weapon skins you can get for it?

[cloud seal]

2042 dont have a tv missle in heli ?

[hasty fractal]

does ppl in bf5 even party up

[tropic vortex]

Doubt it

[granite wyvern]

What platform are you on?

[hasty fractal]

PC

[solid hinge]

nope

atleast not on console

[granite wyvern]

An okay, well on XBox a lot party up

[tropic vortex]

We party more on playstation

[hasty fractal]

bruh

sucks

[solid carbon]

#lfg-pc

[granite wyvern]

I bet, I hate playing BFV solo

[tropic vortex]

That's the best way to play V

[granite wyvern]

Solo? Nah, after 6 years of the game it’s friends that keep it interesting

[tropic vortex]

Dang I didn't last more than 2 days on V

I can do 6 years on 2042 cause well it's the goat

[granite wyvern]

The exact opposite to me 😂

[hasty fractal]

its dead

[solid carbon]

[grave pumice]

has anyone been able to fix the error where it wants me to reset my password to play online on BF4? i’ve reset password a handful of times and still get the same screen.

[brazen zealot]

Cuz 5 was a higher skill gap and a harder learning curve. In my opinion it was better for competitive players.

[brazen zealot]

I just returned to bfv after a year and within a month got a group of about 50-60 active players that host community games daily. Such as squad conquest, rush, domination, and frontlines.

If your interested in joining PM me

We are north American mostly

[granite wyvern]

Funny enough, I’m returning tonight after a 2 month break on Overwatch. I have a clan and also run a big Xbox Facebook community so always have folk to play with.

[brazen zealot]

Oh dam we are on PSN lol

Good luck to yah tho bro. Lots of new players

At least for PSN side

[granite wyvern]

You too

[lethal halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb27b2m-pKU

[hasty fractal]

why is V higher skill gap

what makes it diff

its the only battlefield game i play so idk

[tropic vortex]

Doesn't take any skill to play V at all, it's 100% teamwork and patience

[hasty fractal]

wat teamwork

[tropic vortex]

In 2042 you can actually solo deep in enemy territory and out smart the enemy

[hasty fractal]

pc bf5 my teammate cant even speak english

[tropic vortex]

Exactly that's why V is trash

[granite wyvern]

I know sweats who can solo carry a team on BFV

[brazen zealot]

You never played in a competitive battlefield league then

It takes plenty of skill

[tropic vortex]

No it doesn't dude

[brazen zealot]

Says the casual player

😂

[granite wyvern]

Plus he likes 2042 😂😂😂

[tropic vortex]

That's your assumption

[brazen zealot]

I quit 2042 cuz there is no competitive players to recruit lol

[tropic vortex]

2042 is the most competitive game in history

[brazen zealot]

Pshhh

[tropic vortex]

Players here hate 2042 cause they got rekt and feelings hurt

[brazen zealot]

U don't know the beginning to comp. u probably think Milsim is comp

😂

[hasty fractal]

this is the first time i hear ppl associating battlefield with competitive

[brazen zealot]

2042 is boring cuz I was top player every round

[granite wyvern]

Ridiculous statement, I know the competitive players on Xbox and none of them stayed on 2042. Many went back to BFV whilst others changed franchise.

[brazen zealot]

Look up Esports Battlefield League.

There were other leagues that shut down too.

Shut down cuz 2042 was nothing close to being competitive

[junior torrent]

Really? Esport in BF? Oh please

[brazen zealot]

Look it up, cant doubt it till you check if it was real

Died in BFV a lot cuz of the updates not being what they were supposed to be

Then 2042 buried it

[junior torrent]

Meh

IDGAF about esport

[brazen zealot]

Then why speak on it

Mind your business if you don't care

[hasty fractal]

say

what is squad order

in bf5

i got a weekly assignment on it but idk what it is

im guessing its not the same as daily order

[west mirage]

But still, Conquest is the bread and butter of Battlefield. It should always be the main mode unless we're talking about Bad Company since that game's main mode was always Rush

[tropic vortex]

Rush XL >

[west mirage]

Rush XL is cancer

[west mirage]

Tbf BF4 had an E-Sports but died after 1 and a half year afaik

[junior torrent]

Heh

[junior torrent]

I still want variety

[west mirage]

I didn't say taking the other modes, I just said Conquest should be the main mode

We could as Breakthrough as well

[junior torrent]

And yet, these servers always have conquest

Ass

[west mirage]

Well people like conquest, just gonna have to deal with it

[junior torrent]

It's not even my favorite

[west mirage]

Again you're gonna have to do deal with it cuz majority like conquest

[junior torrent]

And this is why AI bot is a need

[west mirage]

Couldn't care less honestly since the AI bots in 2042 was alright so I could expect they'll put them in the next Battlefield

[worldly dune]

Yessir revive the franchise

[tropic vortex]

There's bf3 content on 2042

[thick seal]

in a match when a squad leader points out a capture point, that's called a "squad order" ya gotta cap some points

[floral plume]

Anyone want to join my squad on battlefield 1 today? I got the server number ready for ya

[junior torrent]

if they are programmed correctly

they cannot be basic and boring

atm, BF4 will soon have one with WR

[humble grotto]

What platform

[steel ridge]

Battlefield

[humble grotto]

PC, Xbox or P.S

Im on PS4/5

[sinful perch]

Anyone for some bf2042 ps

[humble grotto]

I got my own playlist for maps, Argonne Forest, ballroom blitz,river somme,st quieten scar,passchendaele,amiens, Verdun heights,sossions

[rotund nexus]

is there a game mode on bfV for just planes?

[teal fractal]

Lol even bf2 still has some community esports

Bf3/4 and 1 and 5 and 2042 host comp events

[teal fractal]

Lol since when was bf teambased

You get rolled the moment a good player joins the game

[teal fractal]

Gameplay wise? Hard call tbh

Id say 42 gunfights are much better since people actually use guns in that game

Bf1 players spam nades at you first thing they see you

[worldly dune]

And story wise and aesthetic wise too

This is what pulled ppl tbh

[teal fractal]

It only had 3 good campaigns realisticly

Most of the maps are pretty bad based on balance factor and gameplay wise

I could get 40 kills alone with spamming dynamite and nades in fort

42 has grenade spam but its not as braindead as 1

Getting shot a crossbow nade at you thats magnetic and explodes on impact by some low lvl dice buffed player out of pure luck grinds gears pretty hard

So no it doesnt have great gameplay

42 has bad players but theres some good to it, easy to pick up for new coming pc players/fps players, no complex or bs mechanics

Just kinda bland for a bf game

[vale grail]

Literally everything all at once.

[spark hedge]

Is there a LFG for BF1 here or should I find a different discord?

[solid carbon]

yes

[brisk wren]

so im cvrashing going into matches in BFV ummmm im confused ?

[granite wyvern]

The first ever pre-order I lost out on was 2042, paid my £100 (or whatever it was) and left game after 10 days. I’m not going to cry about it though, it’s not even one meal out with the family.

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

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🎬 u/lukebraz

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Oct 4, 2024, 12:03 PM

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[tropic vortex]

No bud you got the pre order bonus

[hasty fractal]

ic ty

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Dropping that sweet 2XP boost for you to enjoy this weekend! 📈📈

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Oct 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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[distant ice]

DLC prices are low as of today.

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

http://x.com/i/article/1842216188761227264

𝕏 · Oct 4, 2024, 3:01 PM

[wary sigil]

The battlefield reddit and community’s takes worry me for the next title more than dice at this point we do NOT need battlefield tarkov at all

Like guys, no matter how fast you design your game, if you wanna play slow, camping and slower playstyles are always viable, unless they make players explode, please dont limit the rest of us that want to push objectives more aggresively

I dont think anyone’s asking for slide cancelling MW3 level movement, just let me dolphin dive into cover bruh

[limber bough]

They don't have any influence

and will never have any

[urban canopy]

I think they'll slow it down but by how much is the question.

[gusty remnant]

holli

[wary sigil]

Uhhh no thanks

I mean sure i’d like to to dive backwards or sideways but thats it

Maybe omnidirectional sprinting?

[wary sigil]

They’ll nerf the slide most likely

I hope they dont touch the ttk

Specially if they’re slowing movement down

hot take but MW22’s movement could work well in a battlefield title, it’s agile but not over the top, diving would be great for getting out of danger, the jumping ADS penalty kinda sucks but it could be tweaked

[tropic vortex]

They will buff it

[gleaming hedge]

hello

battle field 1 wont launch

plz help

[rapid zodiac]

Does anybody play battlefield 1 or 5

[wet fossil]

I'm trying MW right now and oh my god this game is a fucking disaster

You thought 2042's skins were dumb? I'm constantly getting shot at by literal clowns.

And yet despite everyone having the most garish skins of all time, I still can't see the bastards

[vale grail]

Not specifically that game, you're better off going to #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation channels and posting there.

[vale grail]

The game's running on Amtrak.OS, I've had the same issues too.

[tropic vortex]

No need to compare 2042 to that circus

[wet fossil]

Spawns are a disaster too

Just today I spawned in between two guys in the middle of a pitched firefight

I didn't even have time to get my gun up

The entire game is just a clusterfuck

[tropic vortex]

[harsh moss]

Would anyone mind if I go on a touch of a rant?

[gleaming hedge]

guys despite my steam account being linked to my ea account battlefield 1 is not there in the ea site library

why

i tried to link it from the web but it says i cant since it is already linked

how did yall run the game ?

[fallow root]

M1917 is moderately op in BF1

[harsh moss]

I bought it on EA's site (Origin back in the day) but a google search tells me to A: Wait a bit for the sites to refresh, B: Close/Open EA Play, C: Sign out of/Sign into EA Play and D: Uninstall/Reinstall EA Play

You might also just be able to run the game from Steam

[harsh moss]

IMHO it's OK. The suppressed variant is great, with a nice sweet spot for mid-range and a silencer is a W, but I find it's normal irons kinda meh, and it kinda gets outclassed on both ends.

[gleaming hedge]

so i should delete ea right ?

imma try

[harsh moss]

Try waiting a day first

Then go to B

Then C

Then D

[gleaming hedge]

man this is ridiculous

[harsh moss]

I know it sucks, but technology is pain

[gleaming hedge]

why cant they not make a launcher

[fallow root]

Are u kiddin'. It's clearly more than ok concerning balance

It's actually a something close to a laser

[rich ember]

...The bolt action?

[harsh moss]

IDK, man. It's EA. Mostly, they expect you to have bought the game on EA and play it from there

[rich ember]

Clearly the best ones are the SMLE and the Lebel.

(The Lebel may not actually be good but I like it so neh)

[harsh moss]

They mean the M1917 MG I think

Which, yeah it's good

[fallow root]

Lebel is great but the downside is the slow reload

[gleaming hedge]

thanks for the help btw

[rich ember]

MG's are braindead if you get up against a window

because the bipod removes all recoil and spread

which is very cool and not annoying at all

[fallow root]

The M1917 is a tad op at least

[alpine patio]

Yo

Quick question

Who here played bf hardline?

[harsh moss]

Also, hot take; I'm BIG on the M1903 Springfield. LOVE the Experimental

[rich ember]

yeah but if you're playing Scout properly you're not gonna be close enough for that to matter

[harsh moss]

I played it

It was funish

[rich ember]

also you can cancel the reload.

[alpine patio]

Campaign 1-10?

[rich ember]

it's good

[harsh moss]

I'm also big on the Henry, even post-nerf

[harsh moss]

Nah

[fallow root]

Pedersen device on the springfield

[harsh moss]

Multiplayer mostly

[alpine patio]

Campaign?

[alpine patio]

What about campaign?

[rich ember]

i love somehow always being in the sweetspot of the Martini Henry for some reason

[gleaming hedge]

didnt work

[harsh moss]

For me, it's the sound

[rich ember]

never played it cause i'm on PC and i am not playing the game at 60 FOV

[harsh moss]

I've hit 300+ yard shots on running soldiers with the irons

They do SHIT damage, but god the sound is good

[rich ember]

meh.

[fallow root]

Us almost settled for the intermediate pedersen cartridge

[harsh moss]

And there is nothing like getting hot and getting kill after kill in the sweet spot

[fallow root]

.276 Pedersen

[harsh moss]

Also; hot take; I HATE the interplay between vehicles and infantry in BF games

It's always my least favourite part of BF games

[rich ember]

fuck the sweet spot mechanic though

it's dumb, and i hate it.

[harsh moss]

Yes and no. I personally like it, but I see why you dislike it

[rich ember]

well yeah i can see why you like it because you don't feel like getting headshots.

[fallow root]

The sweet spot mechanism is good in its own way

[gleaming hedge]

i tried signing using my steam account but i get an error page in the web

[harsh moss]

I'd say on scoped variants it's unfair

Letting someone miss headshots at range where the opponent can't fire back sucks

BUT

It works really well when you're at midrange with something like the Martini

Where the opponent can engage

And where you should get rewarded for hitting the shot

[rich ember]

honestly, i feel like un-scoped bolts should've just had an extended close range one shot. like up to 15 meters as opposed to like 5.

none of this "oh it one shots if they're this distance away but if they're any further or closer than it doesn't" nonsense

[fallow root]

I did not know about bolt cycling on the general liu rifle

[rich ember]

OR

real big hot take here

[gleaming hedge]

guys how can i delete my ea account ?

[rich ember]

make it so unscoped bolts can't oneshot to the body at all, but they have quicker bolt speed compared to scoped variants.

[fallow root]

why do you want that?

[rich ember]

Making it easier to 2-3 shot someone to the body.

[gleaming hedge]

i bought battle fielkd on steam and it wont let me run it
their launcher doesnt recognize the game and it wont let me link my steam account as it says it is already linked or the web page gives me an error page

so i am startinhg from the ground

[fallow root]

I get it

[gleaming hedge]

i have nothing on it anyways but preogression of cod mobile

oh thats activisin

my bad

[rich ember]

like, make it so Bolt Actions can't one shot to the body at all, but they can one shot to the head, and Infantry/Unscoped bolts have faster bolt chambering speed, so it's more possible to get kills in relatively close range with 'em despite taking 2-3 shots to the body.

[harsh moss]

The problem with making it doable to 2-hit to the body is that you can never 2 hit to the body. You land one, and then die to the spray of an automatic weapon. I like sweet spots for unscoped weapons, because it rewards the more difficult aiming of an unscoped rifle with a greater ability to one-hit

On scoped weapons, sure it's BS. You have a scope, land the hit to the head. But without a scope, it's fine I think

[rich ember]

"The problem with making it doable to 2-hit to the body is that you can never 2 hit to the body."

yes you can actually. aiming with the iron sight bolts is not that hard, especially considering you shoot from screen center in BF1 unlike something like BFV.

is it a bit harder? maybe. but i wouldn't say it's not possible.

[harsh moss]

I can never get 2 shots off. I shoot once, try to cycle, and die to the Automatico/Hellriegal/MP18/SMG08 in my face

[rich ember]

i mean unless you're playing against The Flash then the issue there is that you're getting too close.

like i said i don't think it's that hard.

[thick seal]

this is silly, body shot > switch to sidearm to quickly finish is a bf1 classic

[rich ember]

like I could see this working out in like, mid-range. Like I said as well, they can still one shot, they can just only do that to the head.

So if getting two shots off in close range is an issue, then try aiming for the head.

which honestly you should try to be doing anyway.

like, my thinking here is that Sweet Spot is a dumb mechanic and the idea that it exists for the sake of the Infantry Bolts is kind of stupid considering it's entirely possible to make them play differently from the scoped bolts without turning them into basically shotguns with arbitrary one shot ranges.

[thick seal]

sweet spot is a truly awful idea. but i dont know if dice learned anything as the ntw50 exists

[rich ember]

like, it is genuinely possible to get two shots off provided you're not literally in someone else's face

it's crazy to say it isn't

like maybe it'd be a bit dicey with the normal bolt chamber speeds, but I did say that infantry bolts should have faster bolt speed.

i don't think that's an unreasonable benefit for them to have considering they have no scope and are expected to be used at closer ranges

[tawdry pelican]

I feel like it’s so hard to fly a plane in battlefield 5, not because it’s hard to maneuver or bomb but there’s always some sweaty duo that meat ride each other every single time, so when I attack one of them the other one comes to help

Like bro leave me alone I just wanna bomb with my JU in peace

[rich ember]

yeah flying planes is generally hard, people spend a lot of time playing just to learn how to do that.

[tawdry pelican]

But how am I gonna counter two spitfires that are duod??

[thick seal]

gotta find a friend of your own so you can bait them into fliegerfausts

[rich ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ask someone who is better at flying planes.

[thick seal]

generally teamwork is required to beat teamwork

not always of course but its the best bet

[tawdry pelican]

My teammates don’t even help me when I’m attacked, they just run away waiting for them to be next lmao

[thick seal]

yeah randoms are reliable in one way: they're not reliable

[rich ember]

don't rely on randoms.

[tawdry pelican]

I feel like u need a balance between fighters and bombers, but everyone plays bomber to get that quadruple kills

[thick seal]

but with a friend you can bait pilots into easy deaths

[rich ember]

get friends, or play with people that are better.

[thick seal]

like even as a tanker ive shot down low flying planes that a friend baits them into

with a fliegerfaust its even easier

[tawdry pelican]

Is the bf 109 g-6 worth upgrading

The one with nitro

Axis plane

[hasty marsh]

I get that this is more intuitive, but is this actually better? Do we want the bolt action rifles to be close range cannons that can challenge shotguns?

[rich ember]

not really which is why i proposed the "they can't one shot to the body at all but infantry bolts have quicker bolt chambering speed so getting two body shots to get a kill is more viable. they can still one shot to the head naturally" thing.

[hasty marsh]

you know thats already a thing right?

[rich ember]

in like one gun, the Russian 1895 Trench, yes.

[hasty marsh]

sweet spot aside I do wish there were more carbines.
Its wierd, only a few weapons have carbine versions and half the time its on a weapon that didnt actually have carbine version.

[rich ember]

carbines would've been nice but it would be better if infantry bolts weren't just used as a scapegoat for the inclusion of a really bad and annoying mechanic

[hasty marsh]

its not really annoying

I actually cant think of a time Ive been bothered by it.

[rich ember]

I think it's annoying.

i find getting oneshotted to the body at an arbitrary range annoying.

[hasty marsh]

aint arbitrary, usually the size is a balancing factor. From a player pov, a 1 shot kill from far away isnt too different if its sweet spot or just a headshot. Either way its an instant kill from someone you probably couldnt engage with. Only way to make it different is if you use sweetspot as an excuse.

[thick seal]

thats bait

[rich ember]

headshots are usually earned though, like a vast majority of the time. Sweetspot bodyshots though, are mostly accidental, you can't really gauge if someone is in your sweet spot as you're playing, they just shoot at anyone they can see and occasionally someone will die due to the sweetspot mechanic.

[hasty marsh]

you can't really gauge if someone is in your sweet spot as you're playing
its called depth perception

[rich ember]

as if you can tell off-hand if someone is like 50-60 meters away, dude.

come on.

[hasty marsh]

with enough practice, sure you can. Hell thats not even a skill unique to BF1, any BF game with bullet drop rewards learning this

have you tried?

[rich ember]

Tried what

[hasty marsh]

learning how to guage distance in game

[rich ember]

Never spent time trying to do that specifically. I generally just keep rifles in BF1 sighted at like 100m and that works most of the time.

I don't really use iron sight bolts at all, i usually just use the Lebel sniper.

because the lebel is cool.

[hasty marsh]

it is

[rich ember]

like

I usually just go for headshots. because that makes sense.

like, people say that sweet spot promotes playing more actively

but to be honest, just making infantry bolts rechamber quicker would accomplish basically the same thing

while not resulting in bodyshot one shot kills.

like i am generally of the opinion that body shot oneshot kills should be limited as much as possible.

explosions are fine.

[hasty marsh]

Id look into trying to guage the sweet spot. Even if a headshot is still a 1 shot kill, a sweet spot shot to the body can be faster or more reliable. (think, for example, the awp vs the scout in cs).

[rich ember]

the scout can only one shot to the head tho

[hasty marsh]

exactly

[rich ember]

also we're talking about a one life format on significantly smaller maps

[hasty marsh]

its true in all cs modes
both the scout and the awp are 1 shots to the head, but the awp is signifigantly more dangerous because an awper can kill much more reliably. The awp has a much larger margin for error.

[rich ember]

yeah, i know. I just don't think that's necessary to have in all games.

[hasty marsh]

im not even saying that it is. Just saying that if youre using the lebel a bunch, its still worth learning the 1 shot range.

[rich ember]

i know the one shot range, it's any range that i can get a headshot out to.

[hasty marsh]

if the margin of error didnt matter, we'd see a scout meta in cs for sure. give it a try

[rich ember]

i didn't say it didn't matter

also, we're not talking about CS.

[hasty marsh]

is there anything that makes the comparison invalid? If anything I cant think of a better example to demonstrate how 1 shot hitbox size effects a players lethality.

[rich ember]

It's generally a widely held opinion that sweet spot was not a great mechanic, though, and the reason that's the case is obvious, nobody likes getting oneshotted to the body. People attribute it's existence to iron sight bolts, but I think iron sight bolts could've been tweaked to make the mechanic not necessary while also differentiating them from the scoped bolts in how they're used.

it'd be kind of akin to the medic SLR's but slower and mostly killing in two shots at most engagement ranges, as well as having the possibility to oneshot to the head with good aim.

which i think is a fine compromise.

[hasty marsh]

I think you misunderstand my point.
Im not arguing whether its a good mechanic atm. We've had that conversation before, and its not like BF1 is going to remove it, nor do I think its gonna be brought back ever. Hell Im not even sure WW1 will ever be done again.

What I am saying is that you, if you decide to play BF1 with the lebel again, should learn that mechanic. Im saying that, in the game that exists, its worth practicing how to guage distance, and that at any skill level this can make you a better player.

[rich ember]

perhaps. It's unlikely that i'll play BF1 again though.

I like thinking about how it could've been a better game.

instead of being a nice art piece to walk around in.

[hasty marsh]

if you want my radical take: i think it should have leaned further into ww1 weaponry.
A mechanic like sweet spot, or a similar compromise like the trench variants, only exists because these slow firing weapons need to compete with weapon types that came decades later. If the game was built around most people having crappy, slow and hard hitting weapons, then not only would those weapons be easier to translate to the sandbox, but the game would also be even more of a unqiue and fun experience

[rich ember]

maybe they shouldn't have had SMG's at all.

[hasty marsh]

theyd be a good pickup weapon.

[rich ember]

nah fuck elite classes

[hasty marsh]

just a pickup weapon

[rich ember]

1800 RPM SMG with 500 HP, fuck that meme

how anyone thought that was acceptable is beyond me

[surreal wraith]

1800 is insane

[rich ember]

500 HP is insane.

[hasty marsh]

The BF1918 mod (the one for BF1942) is able to split the weapons up pretty evenly: rifles, carbines, pistols, and mgs.

Once again Ive never felt annoyed by elite kits.They have an achilles heel with the bayonet, dogshit hp regen that forces them to stay by medics, and usually youre alerted if one spawns nearby. Theyre just fun to play and fight.

[rich ember]

i hate the concept of them. like i said, 1800 RPM SMG with 500 HP.

[hasty marsh]

Only real thing that bothers me is that the mg08/15 should have been an infantry weapon, I dont see why the standard german lmg should be limited to that.

[rich ember]

i mean the other MG's are good in BF1 i donno why that one needed to be there

like

Elite Classes and Behemoths should've been exclusive elements in Operations.

Like, limit them to that big theatrical thing, get 'em out of normal gamemodes so i can play like Conquest or whatever and not see them.

[hasty marsh]

theyre fun.

[rich ember]

If you think they're fun then you could go play Operations.

[thick seal]

pickups are fun when they dont make you into 5x health damage sponges

[rich ember]

It's a win-win. You get to play a mode with them and I can play modes that don't have them.

[hasty marsh]

so the sandbox mode has fun sandbox elements removed and thats a win-win because...

[rich ember]

Not removed.

Just limited to Operations.

[hasty marsh]

like I said, removed from the sandbox mode

[rich ember]

you know, the big theatrical thing.

the entire game is a sandbox

[thick seal]

or just make them not stupid

[rich ember]

operations is part of the sandbox

[hasty marsh]

yes but other modes are much more restrictive. Conquest is the most receptive (not sure if thats the best word) for player freedom.

[rich ember]

i don't think it is but i don't know what you're trying to say anyway.

[hasty marsh]

in operations you are limited to one section of the map, and that section will gradually move. In conquest you can go anywhere, whenever you want. As a mode, conquest leans far more into the sandbox aspect of battlefield, because it is the mode that best enables the player to do what they want.

[rich ember]

but here's the thing: Operations could've done with more unique elements anyway, people aren't a fan of the pickups that turn people into bullet sponges and also the losing team getting massive vehicles in modes like Conquest and Rush. A simple solution to the problem is to put those elements in Operations and leave them in there, so people who want a more standard BF experience can get it, while people who wanna play with those things can go play Operations.

[brisk wren]

funny how the new battlefield anti cheat is basicly just 2 layers of punkbuster anti cheat they made waaaay back in bf3 and it shows up 24/7 on your task manager XD

[rich ember]

that's funny

[surreal wraith]

anti cheat must work pretty good since ive never ran into a cheater

[hasty marsh]

youre just kneecapping conquest.
If someone is butthurt over fun sandbox mechanics, they are free to play tdm or dom.

[rich ember]

this isn't even an original viewpoint i've literally taken this viewpoint from NickelBF's BF1 review.

[hasty marsh]

who?

[rich ember]

Former BF competitive player. Really good at the game.

Played with and against the best players in the world on BF4.

[hasty marsh]

and?

[rich ember]

was also really good at BF1.

Like, I generally agree with his view about it.

[hasty marsh]

ok.
Im not sure if thats supposed to mean anything to me

[rich ember]

probably doesn't.

but yeah, I donno, I don't think saying stuff like elite kits and behemoths should've been exclusive to operations is really kneecapping Conquest. if anything, I think their existence kneecaps Conquest.

[thick seal]

the bonus hp sort of makes sense in the context of 64 player operations, maybe. but in conquest its ass

pure ass

[hasty marsh]

I think, if you have this take, you might fundamentally misunderstand why people enjoy and still play BF1.

[brisk wren]

comp play in bf hahaaa that like saying your a comp cod player. comp is a joke that feeds money to a few rich people and gives no one value its why comp leagues are drying and dying in mass

[thick seal]

and you might fundamentally misunderstand why people like classic battlefield

which bf1 conquest is not

[surreal wraith]

no way bf was comp

is this a joke

[hasty marsh]

never said it was. 1s probably the most unique of the bunch.

[thick seal]

it was, but it also wasnt a huge scene

microscopic at best

[brisk wren]

bf and cod are brain dead games that aanyhone can pick up and learn and master in hours. as the decades have gone by they have dumbed them even more so younger generations can understand

[hasty marsh]

comp is gonna exist for any large game like this. Its just with battlefield most players arent really playing it to master it.

[thick seal]

pretty sure the lead gameplay dev for dice is a bf4 comp player

[rich ember]

I mean I understand perfectly why people enjoy and play BF1. Because it looks pretty and they wanna be "immersed".

[thick seal]

unless hes gone now too haha

[rich ember]

...With how 2042 turned out, I don't think that's true.

[brisk wren]

only games with a company willing to take a massssive lost every quarter has a one after all LoL literally losts billions a year on there comp leagues

[thick seal]

i mean the titles are nebulous but I'm pretty sure he got that title after 2042 came out

[hasty marsh]

plenty of BF games look pretty. But that wears off over time. If the cinematics were the only thing holding it together, operations would be the only popular mdoe. People still play 1 because, shockingly, they find it fun. Most people in the game right now are having fun.

[rich ember]

that would imply he had that job while 2042 was still getting updates

[brisk wren]

theres a reason so many "comp" focused games died in under a year. people want fun not sweat

[thick seal]

or hes working on the next game

games arent produced in a year

[hasty marsh]

🦜

[tired fjord]

hi

i have an issue with my bf V

[surreal wraith]

i never played bf1 in its prime rip

[rich ember]

Because most of the people playing BF1 are not really concerned about good gameplay. You barely see any serious discussion about BF1's gameplay, most of the talk about it is the graphics and it being immersive.

[brisk wren]

its why the finals its still alive even if i never touched it. they arent focused on comp play just a fun game

[hasty marsh]

And yet, theyre having fun. Oh sure the immersion is talked about a ton, the game hit it out of the park in that regard so thats what sticks with people. But you hop on right now and you find a bunch of servers of people having fun.
which begs the question, what is good gameplay?

[rich ember]

You don't see people talking about how it's ridiculous that they put visual recoil back in after removing it in BF4. You don't see people talking about suppression being a bad mechanic. Sight sway, weapon balance, sweet spot, most BF1 players don't give a shit about any of that.

[hasty marsh]

you definitley see people talk about weapon balance

[rich ember]

Not in my experience.

[tired fjord]

where i can get help?

[thick seal]

this is a case of survivor bias

[hasty marsh]

the smg08 is still talked about to this day

[surreal wraith]

was there ever a broken gun in 2042?

[thick seal]

the people that would have complained about that shit dont care about bf1 anymore

[rich ember]

so many.

so many.

[thick seal]

haha

when game came out there was 1 working gun

[hasty marsh]

[thick seal]

1 gun

[rich ember]

as it should because who the hell decided to add that thing to the game

Assault didn't need an 84 round SMG.

[hasty marsh]

Its not like 1's a small playerbase. Its retention is roughly the same as the others around it, if not slightly better.

at least, judging by steam

[brisk wren]

problem with bfv is they need 1 maybe 2 balance passes and to fix the didgy hit reg on the k31 anddddd the infer still crashing people on amd .. bf1 ehhhhh there are a few things that need serious balancing

[rich ember]

BFV's main problem is spread to recoil conversion.

[brisk wren]

better then bf1 cone bull

[hasty marsh]

(every bf game has a cone of fire)

[rich ember]

spread is a fine mechanic, BF1's problem is visual recoil with spread + no visual indicator for spread

BF1 used to have tracers in first person for this reason but they got removed

[brisk wren]

trueee but this is literally made rtto be not accurate unless 3 things are set

[hasty marsh]

1 also did not convey suppression well which lead to people misinterpeting it as normal spread

[rich ember]

1 also had the problem of having suppression at all

which didn't help either

[hasty marsh]

my only issue with suppression is that it can be accidentally procced.

It needs to require continuous fire or something.

[rich ember]

I don't like my aim being effected by someone shooting near me and missing.

I don't think that's a unreasonable thing to dislike.

[hasty marsh]

and missing.
Yeah exactly. It needs to be intentional

[rich ember]

Like, if there has to be a suppression effect in game, it shouldn't effect your aim. maybe effect visibility and hearing, but you should still be able to aim and hit things.

[hasty marsh]

make it psychotic and work like squad

[rich ember]

wouldn't work in a game like Battlefield.

[hasty marsh]

(yea that was a joke)

I think as an intentional debuff, supression can improve the game by allowing players to disadvantage people who are huddled up in a corner, and by allowing people to defend themselves when engaged with an enemy who out ranges them. This is especially good for providing counterplay against snipers who've historically been a pain in the ass to make fun to fight for developers.

The main issues come when suppression is applied by complete accident or when its poorly conveyed to the player. In these cases it just feels fucking random as opposed to a play the enemy has made.

[keen jacinth]

Suppression should be a visual distraction rather than your bullets becoming special ed

[rich ember]

I'm gonna be honest with you, I think snipers are generally fucking worthless in a game like this where people respawn.

[rich ember]

:I

[hasty marsh]

sure, but the interaction is still gonna be more enjoyable and deep when you have a choice to do something to the sniper as opposed to praying he has bad aim.

[keen jacinth]

Snipers are going to be in the game regardless.

[rich ember]

I guess. Tbh I just don't see the point of having them at all. Especially since it creates the problem of people trying to cosplay chris kyle and not helping.

[thick seal]

you dont see the point of having sniper rifles in battlefield.. at all

see thats just unreasonable lol

snipers are fun. when they're not op

[rich ember]

why is that unreasonable? They're a specialist role irl anyway.

[thick seal]

because fun?

[keen jacinth]

It helps at least at helping players push an objective without a player firing down from a building or hill.

[rich ember]

yes, watching like 5 people think they're Chris Kyle is very fun

[thick seal]

no no, those people suck

sniping as a skilled player is fun

[rich ember]

THIS IS THE SITUATIONS THEY CREATE

[thick seal]

those people should play Hell Let Loose but cant figure it out

[hasty marsh]

ultimatley its down to the reasons people play BF. For the most part, people arent here to win at all costs. Its not a game like counter strike or deadlock where people are coming in with the intention of mastering everything. People play BF because its a fun sandbox, the objectives only serve to funnel people together to fight.
The sniper serves a purpose by adding to the sandbox, its for people who want to play as a sniper. Its there because sniping is fun. it is the value in of itself.

[rich ember]

or play Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts.

[thick seal]

sniper elite

[rich ember]

which is basically the best sniper game of all time.

nah SGWC is great

[hasty marsh]

I suspect they'd be dissapointed by HLL's sniper

[thick seal]

i mean only jokingly idk if the sniper elite multiplayer is playable

[thick seal]

and they're not disappointed getting less than 10 kills in a full game somehow

me personally i do not understand that

[hasty marsh]

Theyre going for the 500m shot dopamine hit

[thick seal]

bf franchise has some of the weirdest passive players outside of tarkov

[rich ember]

absolute specimens

[keen jacinth]

Most are just modern gamers, the vets never leave the recliner.

[hasty marsh]

Its not really too hard to put together. Theyre going for long shots because they find it fun, and they dont give a shit about their place on the scoreboard.

[thick seal]

30 minutes to get 10 kills is shameful

too many of those players in bf