battlefield-legacy-titles

[random blade]

My mantra is to do the best I can, but not give a damn about how anyone else performs

[digital notch]

because people in BF literally do stuff like that

[digital notch]

yea same here lol

I dont get mad at my teammates

if anything if I were to get mad, its just at myself really

or at the map selection 🤣

[junior torrent]

Not even campers using mortar all the time?

[digital notch]

campers can be anonying but I usually get my revenge

because they literally stay in the same place lol

[junior torrent]

I once sent a missile to a truck camper

Sometimes they don't move

Other times they realized they're gonna be bombed

[digital notch]

this is why I hate games like CS and Siege though

competitive gaming should just stick to eSports

an external component of a game sure

[junior torrent]

I swear

[digital notch]

but games are naturally casual

[junior torrent]

Esport games always have shitty atmosphere and design choices

[digital notch]

they do

[junior torrent]

Siege back then

Was great

Now it becomes a generic hero shooter game

Like valorany

This is getting out of control

[digital notch]

in an FPS game, its casual, you get in there, play objective, shoot enemies and have fun

that's it

I dont care about some fucking meta lol

[random blade]

I’d play bf competitively regardless of how casually it’s designed. While there is usually a design ethos that separates innately comp games to casual ones, it’s mostly just down to the mindset of the player

[rich ember]

In games where the infantry gameplay is good, competitive BF can be really interesting.

[digital notch]

I dont mind competitive players as long as they know there are casual ones who dont have the same mindset

[rich ember]

oh trust me they know

[thick seal]

really? bf1 comp would be torture imo

[rich ember]

they are well aware of that

[digital notch]

Battlefield and CoD are naturally casual games

they arent CS or Siege

[rich ember]

every time they lose a match despite doing really well they know that

[digital notch]

i really dont care though

thats the thing

😄

[rich ember]

every time someone mocks them for being at the top of the leaderboard they know that.

[random blade]

Bf1 is the exception. My least played bf to date

Basically I’m just saying that games deemed as casual by the audience i’d still approach with a competitive mindset

[rich ember]

Incursions would've been an interesting mode if they removed visual recoil and also actually released it to the public instead of scrapping it

[junior torrent]

Have you seen cod league

[digital notch]

COD League is cringe

and stupid

[junior torrent]

That and warzone

Ruining cod PR

[digital notch]

I literally laugh at people who decide to play CoD competitively

like you are embarrasing to me lol

[thick seal]

i love controller aimbot esports!!!

very real skill

[digital notch]

they love to pretend aim assist isn't aimbot as well which is funny

[junior torrent]

And you say, we can't be friends anymore

[digital notch]

CoD aim assist that is

[rich ember]

Like, I think games should reward getting better at them.

[digital notch]

no

[rich ember]

why not.

[digital notch]

games should just reward those who enjoy playing

[rich ember]

why not reward players that get better at the video game?

[thick seal]

every bf game does that though

even bf1 which i hate

[rich ember]

eh

[digital notch]

everyone should just be rewarded based on the amount of XP they get

[rich ember]

no.

i wouldn't say BF really rewards people for getting better.

[thick seal]

lol

[digital notch]

its not about getting better

its about playing how you wanna play

there's no "one way" to play Battlefield

there's tons of ways to play it

[random blade]

Well my way is to get better

Checkmate

[digital notch]

some literally play Battlefield to just pilot a jet lol

[rich ember]

and those people are likely good at flying jets.

[digital notch]

and some just use tanks

and some just stay as infantry

and some do a mix

some prefer to conquer zones and some prefer to defend

[hasty marsh]

a game should be aware of who its target audience is, what value the game provides to that audience, and focus on delivering that value to the best of its ability.
There is no one audience or one value it can or must provide. It should not be roped into what is competitive, or casual, or political, or trending, or profitable, unless those features directly tie into the value the game provides.

anything else is out of touch

[digital notch]

Battlefield is a casual game

[thick seal]

a casual game with a ton of depth

[digital notch]

every game is casual at their core really, unless you mean the really competitive games like Valorant and CS

[random blade]

But with enough mechanical depth and consideration for balance that those with a comp mindset can enjoy it

[thick seal]

battlefield is not checkers

[digital notch]

like imagine raging at Mario Kart (but like seriously raging), you would be most embarrasing person on the planet

like

enjoy the game lol

[thick seal]

how dare you use that blue shell on me

[random blade]

And some people want to play Mario kart competitively

[thick seal]

we are no longer friends

[digital notch]

okay now we gonna have problems 😡

I was just about to be 1st

[rich ember]

Competitive Mario Kart is mostly just time trials innit

[random blade]

I know cause one of my friends took part in an actual Mario kart tournament recently

[rich ember]

like how it is for most arcade racers?

[random blade]

I assume time trials or no items, I didn’t ask him much about how it’s structured

[digital notch]

Nintendo's most competitive game is Smash Bros but even that is structured casually (for a reason)

same with Splatoon

[random blade]

Which proves our point

[digital notch]

that's because its played by casuals

[thick seal]

but nintendo also does the casual game with tons of depth thing

[digital notch]

there's not that many competitive players

[random blade]

With comp communities. Same as bf

[digital notch]

like people really have no idea how small of a minority the competitve scene is when you compare it to the casual scene

[rich ember]

Like, going back to Battlefield, a thing about this community that not a lot of people talk about is that people really just hate good players, anyone that's above average at the video game, they fucking hate 'em.

[random blade]

You can boot up the game and just punch people and have fun, or you can dive into learning it’s in depth systems to become a better player. Both parties can coexist

[hasty marsh]

🥱

[thick seal]

it truly depends

[digital notch]

I dont care how anyone plays

if you are on my team

[random blade]

Battlefield just needs some mechanical depth and some consideration for balance and both groups can have just as much fun

[digital notch]

I believe you tried your best

[rich ember]

i mean it doesn't, it is just a general rule.

[hasty marsh]

raise your hand if you hate good players

mmmmmmmmmmmm nobody here

[digital notch]

i dont hate any player, just have fun 😄

[thick seal]

people's ego gets in the way when you frag out on them, not really crazy

[rich ember]

nobody's going to straight admit to it, but they'll just talk shit to anyone that's good at the video game.

[thick seal]

but that doesnt mean everyone hates good players

[hasty marsh]

I will hate the guy in the artillery truck. Sorry, its obligations

[rich ember]

people legit harassed a helicopter pilot on 2042 for the crime of being good at the video game.

[digital notch]

most people forget the majority of people who play video games are people who come home from a long day of work and just wanna relax

nobody has time to learn about the meta or stuff unless you are a streamer and gaming is your career

[random blade]

The people in this chat are chill towards good players, but I do get what you mean. Seen plenty of Twitter or Reddit comments on good clips that are just people being needlessly hateful because someone shows some kind of merit

[rich ember]

yeah it's mostly twitter/reddit but being real, it does represent a large portion of the community.

[thick seal]

hes also a streamer that talks mad shit, but i do think the people harassing him are massive losers that should get banned

[rich ember]

but they didn't, that's the problem. and people were supporting that behavior.

[hasty marsh]

ive yet to see it actually in game though. Unless someone is an overt hacker or going 84-2 in a little bird, I rarely see people get shit

[rich ember]

People were acting like he deserved it simply because he was a good pilot.

[digital notch]

I dont think a player who's just playing really good especially if they have videos are "cheating" unless its really obvious

like some people are geniunely that good

[random blade]

I never do either

[hasty marsh]

i mean the guy with the lewis gun who is very blatantly aimbotting until the mod comes long

[thick seal]

yeah bfv has tons of cheaters

first game i loaded into in years had one

classic.

[digital notch]

its funny because

[hasty marsh]

v was (and maybe still is idk) one of the most fucked up games i have ever seen in terms of hackers

[rich ember]

typical BFV moment

[hasty marsh]

My favorites include the guy running at mach 3 using cut weapons or the guy who could redeploy the entire server.
very funny

[thick seal]

the best anticheat in bfv was using a tank, at least in the early stages before cheats got crazy

[random blade]

That exact thing happened to me, guy had the finger guns in a tdm match lol

[rich ember]

the best anticheat in BFV is not playing BFV anymore

[hasty marsh]

I wonder if there is a degree of skill cieling to that. "how long can i blatantly hack before the tanks get me"

[thick seal]

nah killing the cheater while protected in the tank is very funny

stupid fuckers

[random blade]

Killing any cheater and seeing them leave is the funniest

Like you crushed their ego so they just dip

[thick seal]

outplaying guys with walls is always satisfying

[rich ember]

it'll be really funny if the new anticheat doesn't help BF1 at all

[thick seal]

a lot of them have dogshit timing

[rich ember]

like it's already annoying some people who run servers

because i'm in a discord that ran a server that banned the SMG08 and something else, but the new anticheat will break how that works

[hasty marsh]

walk in
kill modding
kill server tools
dont solve hacker problem
leave

[rich ember]

peak EA/DICE

don't actually solve a problem, make things worse.

[thick seal]

its in bfv right? like i said, cheaters are still running wild

[rich ember]

it is

[thick seal]

so i expect it will do nothing for bf1 too

good stuff

[hasty marsh]

tbh, server owners had the cheaters pretty much under control. Only dice run servers were much of an issue

[random blade]

Seeing them crouch walk in the killcam…

[rich ember]

Shame too, I like their servers and i appreciated that they had a server that banned the SMG08 specifically

[random blade]

They aught to spend the cheat money on metafy instead

[rich ember]

because let's be honest the SMG08 straight up shouldn't be in the game.

[hasty marsh]

it was fine before they cranked up the rof

[rich ember]

Nah, 84 round SMG? Fuck off.

[thick seal]

they buffed the smg08 at one point? lol

[rich ember]

doesn't need to be in the game.

[rich ember]

yes

[thick seal]

i didnt play bf1 until after all patches

[hasty marsh]

it used to be mid

[rich ember]

LMG capacity in an SMG and they thought that was reasonable

[hasty marsh]

Ima really miss the mods too. The authentic uniform mods and accurate flag mods looked great, so did the ones that cleaned up the ironsights

[rich ember]

i never bothered with mods, apparently those haven't worked since EA retired Origin

[hasty marsh]

the community had a tool for loading bf1 and bfv mods, super easy to use

[rich ember]

I see.

I never bothered tho, I never cared that much about BF1

cause BF1 was mostly just annoying and i didn't feel like playing it.

like it has to be just realism purists or graphics fanatics that think this game is the best one

[hasty marsh]

trying to have the same conversation again I see?

though "realism" is a wierd angle, I wouldnt call bf1 very realistic at all

[rich ember]

it's not. but people are like, oh this game looks so realistic, it's so immersive.

and that's like all they say about it.

[hasty marsh]

Oh you mean graphics

[rich ember]

well yeah because that's all they talk about

they don't talk about gameplay really.

[hasty marsh]

BF1 is fun :)

[halcyon sundial]

yea bf1 beautfiul looking game, atmospheric. gameplay is almost perfect just needed bullet sponge horses gone, the catchup mechanics and weapons like smg08/anni/autistico out of the game.

[rich ember]

i donno i'd rather play Hardline.

[halcyon sundial]

bruh stop

[rich ember]

no

[halcyon sundial]

hardline was rubbish compared to bf1, stop the cap

[hybrid minnow]

hardline and bf1 are fire

[rich ember]

Hardline was a better BF4 and BF4 was good.

[hybrid minnow]

idk man I liked both

[rich ember]

you stop the cap man.

[hasty marsh]

if horses were weaker theyd be useless. Behemoths are also fun

[halcyon sundial]

hardline was junk

[rich ember]

no it wasn't

you just didn't like the theme.

[hasty marsh]

Plus horses arent even that strong, any support can kill them pretty easily

[halcyon sundial]

idc it is a joke shooting a horse that many times, it is goofy looking.

[rich ember]

Behemoths would've been fine if they were limited to Operations.

[hasty marsh]

It is goofy but its not taking itself too seriously

[halcyon sundial]

no the game was a confused mess

[rich ember]

why was it a confused mess

[halcyon sundial]

like when i see it i want to quit to desktop because it is ridiculously stupid

[thick seal]

elite kits, sweet spot, excessive visual recoil, gas grenades. bf1 sure had some mechanics and ideas.

[hasty marsh]

lol

[rich ember]

yup and none of them were good

[thick seal]

no jump peeking

slide nerfed into unusable

big fun

[hasty marsh]

like I said, best bf game

[halcyon sundial]

if someone ever gets around to modding bf1 if possible to take out some of the goofy crap omg it would be perfect

[hasty marsh]

BF1 modding is dead on the floor

[halcyon sundial]

but my point stands you take a few of the bad things out and you have an almost perfect game.

[hasty marsh]

idk your list is mostly fun things that add to the sandbox

[random blade]

Would have to add a fair bit in to make it perfect

[junior torrent]

There's already a modding scene for it

It's very new

[thick seal]

if one were to take out most of the unique bf1 mechanics yes bf1 would be more fun

bfv mechanics played in bf1 maps would be more fun

[hasty marsh]

🤮

[halcyon sundial]

bullet sponge horsey dont add nothing

[hasty marsh]

its adds a horse which is fun to play and not nearly as broken as you make it to be

[random blade]

Except making the cavalry role stronger and fit the power fantasy better

[halcyon sundial]

i never claimed it was broken..... i claimed it is brain rot, goofy

like seeing a horse taking bullets like that is stupid

[hasty marsh]

Like yeah you could make the horse have 200 hp and have cavalry run to one spot, dismount, and act as infantry like IRL, but frankly thats boring.

[halcyon sundial]

it insults anyones intelligence who has to witness that

[random blade]

Would rather that, than it die in two shots

[hasty marsh]

bro your intelligence is insultable if you are expecting hyperrealism from battlefield 1.

[halcyon sundial]

not asking for hyperrealism. but keep putting words in my mouth and attributing positions that are not mine to me lol

i would just off the horses altogether

[hasty marsh]

your complaint is rooted in that fundamentally.

boring

[thick seal]

turning a horse into a bullet sponge is definitely an odd choice

and its one they made

[halcyon sundial]

no how dare you say that this is bf casual experience, if you want hardcore hyper real go play a milsim scrub lol

jks

[hasty marsh]

its an odd choice but it works since it allows you to run people down without dying immediatley, so you can fufill that fantasy of cavalry

[halcyon sundial]

so you admit is ood. thanks what are we even arguing about.

god some of you are just brainrot on here sometimes

[hasty marsh]

You argued it should be nerfed or removed soley on the basis of being odd

[halcyon sundial]

i am gonna touch grass, the terminally online are goofy lol

[thick seal]

i think it could have been made without it being an obnoxious bullet sponge

[hasty marsh]

what do you propose?

[halcyon sundial]

Yes and that is my final position and opinion. Deal with it, move on kid. I dont agree with you or care about you Calvary fantasies lmao

[hasty marsh]

I thought you were touching grass?

[halcyon sundial]

yea i am going rn. what are you my dad?

lol

[hasty marsh]

sure you are.

[halcyon sundial]

🦗

[thick seal]

i propose that players should have been able to deal with the horses easier, and i'm sure there was a way to balance it out after the horse gets killed

like you should be able to run people down, but not if they're actively shooting your horse

the amount of bullets needed was obnoxious

[hasty marsh]

Honestly horses arent too hard to deal with, because the support is a good anti-horse class. The large mags and high range can take out horses fairly effectively.
Granted, LMGs as "anti-vehicle" is a bit unintuitive for BF1 but I think it works as game design.

[hasty marsh]

the main thing though is that its not like cavalry can be very sneaky yknow? If youre in towns and whatnot then you can get overwhelmed pretty quickly.

Maybe they could be squishier if there were more ways to heal the horse? Perhaps medics could heal or even revive your horse, and maybe it could have something akin to autorepair?

also do they take headshot damage? I honestly have never checked

[thick seal]

yes. this is a good compromise. give the horse an apple to heal

[hasty marsh]

maybe, though it might not work in practice. Hard to tell

An apple is a fun idea though

[desert mauve]

is bf2042 worth in 2024 on pc? I've played bf4, 1 and V in the when i used to have a ps4 and enjoyed them all. Never bought 2024 on my new pc since it didnt look good at launch. Are pc servers active enough or would you recommend getting I or V on pc?

[hasty marsh]

42 isnt worth your time. Id pick up 1

[rich ember]

1 isn't worth your time. uhhhh.....to be honest FPS games kinda just suck. try broadening your horizons a bit.

[halcyon sundial]

2042 is oof. BF1 and V are worth your time.

[solar nexus]

Pick bf4 over 2042. Because a lot of people bf4 and has the core battlefield features

[dapper hornet]

damn i'm cautiously excited by the leaks

hope they go full in on NATO pr

[hasty marsh]

its a good way to sell cosmetics, sell uniforms from different countries. Players wont recognize a specific camo but its easy to convery "french uniform"

[halcyon sundial]

i just hope they leave the garish skins behind

[magic bobcat]

Does anyone play battle field 1 anymore

[halcyon sundial]

yes but you are on playstation so probably not as many

[magic bobcat]

There's only one game active but it's in the pregame and it's in Brazil so I have highping and they are in the select character screen

I'm trying to find people

[halcyon sundial]

go lfg or buy a pc

[upper berry]

most 2042 players is on new gen or pc

o bf1 nvrm. my b

[tight rain]

Disappointed in you

[upper berry]

[magic bobcat]

I finally got in a bf1 game then the one other person left

[tight rain]

Lmao

[orchid stump]

I know this is way too early as fuck, but do you all think the next bf game will be good or nah?

[magic bobcat]

If there's no bots yeah

[orchid stump]

I prefer bots to fill in a few gaps. Like if it's 32v32 but only 30 players on both sides

[tight rain]

It will sell 1 billion copies no doubt

Jokes aside i’m feeling good about it. I enjoyed 2042 so my standards are low

[weak axle]

I was playing like 3 weeks ago and there were like 3 dozen servers at least half full on Playstation. Make sure you're searching conquest and all maps

[tight rain]

Certainly won’t preorder though

[halcyon sundial]

preordering is evil

[magic bobcat]

I did

[orchid stump]

I'm hoping it's great, but I think it will flop. Execs never listen

[magic bobcat]

I guess I gotta get on at 6 am

[weak axle]

A decent amount of servers seemed to be German or Brazil

[magic bobcat]

There was 2 people in a Brazilian server

You are right

[weak axle]

Maybe something weird was going on, try again later, people still play. My buddy said it's been having just as many concurrent players as 2042

[magic bobcat]

I found 2 more people in a Brazilian server

[magic bobcat]

I will

It's 8 PM for me

The ping is so bad

Brb

[weak axle]

Ahh gotcha I'm in Pennsylvania

Right now there are 3853 people playing BF1 on steam. I can't imagine the number on ps is less than a server.

[magic bobcat]

I accidentally teamkilled after waiting forever for someone to respawn and then I got kicked

[austere trout]

Hey, anyone up for BF2042? please join Squad 3 🙂

[wet fossil]

And the AT rocket gun that every Assault ran with one-shot horses

[young saddle]

Aaaaaa

[young saddle]

[south radish]

Horses in bf1 at 15x kevlar layer

or 10k hp

[young saddle]

I want bf3 vehicles

[wet fossil]

If there's any pro to having yet another modern era entry, it means that I'll have my L85 back

Still think it should be 1980s era at the latest though

[untold ice]

it will have the benefit of being called battlefield 4.5

i hope that the rumour that they are using a new version of frostbite is true

so when the next installment pulls a 2042, they d just import 3,4 and hardline into the new engine

call it portal 2 or whatever

[wet fossil]

Call me a nitpicker but portal's not worth it if those weapon animations and performance are as bad as they are now

Like they are super sloppy

[plucky spoke]

really hope they get rid of the whole climate change extreme weather stuff and focus back on levelution. Being able to destroy any and everything on the map is way more fun than a random spawning weather event that does some damage

[wet fossil]

It would have been better if they actually introduced events that weren't tornadoes

They are so played out

[rich ember]

I mean, climate change is an interesting topic but it never really got utilized in interesting ways because this is a large scale multiplayer shooter and the focus is purely on warfare, nothing else, survival is not a consideration.

You die to the tornado you just respawn.

[wet fossil]

They could've had stuff like a major bushfire ripping through the area, cutting off some routes of access, burning down wooden structures, stuff like that

Make it look like Verdun

[dapper hornet]

ngl i'm kinda interested in the campaign too

till now we've only seen US vs terrorists/russians no?

NATO gonna slap so hard

[thick seal]

bf4 was primarily China

[solid hinge]

I ❤️ shooting at blue helmets

Bf4 was peak

[thick seal]

that's United Nations tho

not NATO

[solid hinge]

I’m aware

[thick seal]

i doubt we'll have un kits

[solid hinge]

That’s why I didn’t use it as a reply

Thank god 🙏

[thick seal]

probably too controversial for EA anyway

[rich ember]

I wouldn't really trust EA to make anything interesting with the concept anyway.

[solid hinge]

It’s a shame tbh. I remember the amount of flack they got from Russia because of bf4.

[thick seal]

its going to be boilerplate, uncontroversial

we just gotta hope that the armies look like real military

[rich ember]

Probably won't for the sake of selling skins.

[thick seal]

i'm not enthused if its like 2042 where the playerskins are garish as fuck

they used to make games that were visually pleasing, imagine doing that again

[dapper hornet]

oh right, i forgot

damn, what a forgettable campaign

i only remember bits and pieces from it

but again, we played as just the US no?

[rich ember]

yes

i am tired as fuck.

[thick seal]

yeah thats pretty much every bf campaign for me

[dapper hornet]

i remember more from bf3's campaign

[thick seal]

even bc2, its only good because of funny squad banter

[dapper hornet]

but yeah it was never bf's strength

[rich ember]

I've beaten BF3's campaign, I don't remember anything from it. It was one of the campaigns of all time.

[thick seal]

i think i never made it past 2 hours of that one

and the only reason i played 4's was bf multiplayer was down that day

4's was extremely short

[rich ember]

I hated BF4's campaign

[thick seal]

ya its not great at all

[rich ember]

purely because there's a section where you're supposed to swim through a partially sunken ship

and it's broken

oh also it did that really funny thing of not having adjustable FOV despite the multiplayer having that

[thick seal]

only multiplayer speedfreaks want fov sliders

[dapper hornet]

you don't even remember the iconic first mission?

[rich ember]

i remember falling on a train.

[dapper hornet]

or the fighter jet mission that gets circlejerked everywhere

[rich ember]

okay now i remember the fighter jet mission

let's be honest

that shit's an autoscroller

[dapper hornet]

it is but it looked cool so

[rich ember]

i guess

[dapper hornet]

it's jerked over too much tho

[rich ember]

of course it is

jet representation.

[thick seal]

yeah for its time bf3 was fucking stunning

they could get away with stuff like the jet, it was visually novel

now it's a snoozefest

[dapper hornet]

we should also be getting more diversity in vehicles due to potentially having more countries represented

would be cool

by vehicles i mean all types of vehicles, idk english isn't my native language

air, water, land

[thick seal]

yeah it'd be nice to see other western tanks / planes / helicopters

french and german stuff

[dapper hornet]

some eurofighter action

[thick seal]

not just USA black hawks and apaches every game

[dapper hornet]

yea

[thick seal]

and I'm a red blooded american saying that

its just kinda boring they've done it so many times

[dapper hornet]

no reason to not have all of em represented in game

[rich ember]

I don't really care that much about vehicle diversity, as i'm not a big vehicle player. I just want the infantry gameplay to be good.

[dapper hornet]

ofc

it's just another potential good thing

[thick seal]

messing up infantry gameplay would be a funny blunder

[dapper hornet]

surely not

[thick seal]

like all of the pieces are falling into place, but then we get a game worse than bf1 mechanically

and people still love it because its pretty

[dapper hornet]

even ea/dice should know by now that fucking up again will cause irrepairable damage

[rich ember]

Instead of mouse input being broken, now all input is broken

nothing works right.

[dapper hornet]

battlefield: broken input

[rich ember]

people will claim it's realistic cause the player character is stressed

[thick seal]

mouse input same as 2042, vehicle input fixed

them: good enough

[rich ember]

yeah they just keep gaslighting people into thinking 2042's mouse input was fine and not broken actually

[thick seal]

like i genuinely cant go back to 2042 after playing delta force, the mouse needs to work

i'd rather play nothing

[rich ember]

2042: So bad you'll actually just go outside

[plucky spoke]

my issue is because they just "had to" have the tornados , it ended up making less destruction overall on the maps because it was used for the tornados .

I much prefer the destruction coming from all the artillery the players in the match use

[thick seal]

i think their destruction limits were more from the game being on ps4 still

[plucky spoke]

total levelution > silly unrealistic tornadoes with just a little destruction

[plucky spoke]

that also played a role yes

this one needs to be "next" / current gens only

[thick seal]

but the tornado was still a completely stupid idea and addition

[plucky spoke]

its past time they ditch the ps4s

but really BF 4, 1, V all had much larger amounts of destruction of the maps and they were all on ps4 .

One of ( but clearly not the only thing) the things that has set BF apart from COD forever has been the fact you can practically destroy just about most of things on a map and change the layout of things from one match to another

felt like they sacraficed that just to have the stupid super tornados

[thick seal]

true but they werent 128 big dumb maps haha

128 was truly the worst decision

[obsidian hinge]

128 means less quality overall server wise

More lag, more delay

[thick seal]

and the object density was so clear

it sucked.

[obsidian hinge]

Wdym object density

Like the overall amount of objects?

[thick seal]

like.. theres no cover

[obsidian hinge]

True

[thick seal]

because they cant place more objects on the map

because they ran out of memory

[obsidian hinge]

And the empty buildings

Literally nothing inside 90% of them

[thick seal]

battlefield needs a high level of object density

[plucky spoke]

also true

[thick seal]

2042 is very sparse and it sucked

[obsidian hinge]

Probably coming with all the new destruction tech

Nothing to destroy or shoot through means nothing if there aren't actual objects or items around the map

Like furniture or something

And just cover

[thick seal]

remember when they built hard and soft cover into maps so they could showcase their awesome destruction and microdestruction

do that again maybe

[solid hinge]

Well they did they they’ll be going back to the roots of bf3/4 as that’s when they hit their peak

[proud mortar]

So they say I want to be optimistic but they have a lot to prove (which I believe they can) just keep on track with bf3/4

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah. Also all the things they've done so far when it comes to the development like hiring military veterans and bringing in the old devs for advice is really good

[proud mortar]

Oh absolutely that’s awesome and they’re supposedly bringing boat PvP back which is sweet I’ve always loved that I hope they bring back a few bf3/4 maps

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah naval combat 👍

[obsidian hinge]

They probs will bring back some old maps, can't see why they wouldn't

[proud mortar]

Oh absolutely and leaks saying up to 45 weapons on launch is a definite Win

[old wraith]

i tend to ignore leaks, I dont like tog et my hopes up for things that then dont make it into a game

[proud mortar]

Yeah it’s always good to be skeptical

[livid bay]

I wouldn’t trust that. The only reason IGN said there could be boat combat is the fact there was battleships in the concept art

[proud mortar]

Im definitely taking it with a grain of salt for sure

[obsidian hinge]

But the leaks from Henderson are like 90% right

But we shouldn't talk about leaks here anyway

[proud mortar]

What I like is there will be a CTE you want to get close to your community and have a good launch do a CTE

[obsidian hinge]

Yes and the biggest thing of it all is the transparency and that they want to give out playtests so early actually makes it so much more believable the game is actually good.

[random blade]

I’m most curious about how early they are going to be working through this playtest idea

If it’s still white box then that would be rather unusual, but also the only way to be able to change the game based on user responses fast enough

[obsidian hinge]

Maybe its already going on

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah who knows. But gameplay and feel is important so graphics wise it doesn't really matter

[random blade]

They’ll be bringing people into the studio to do tests constantly, it’s not just exclusive to this community programme

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah

[random blade]

Which is why I’m most curious about this

[obsidian hinge]

Join the EA playtesting program and see if you get an invite to something maybe lol

And fly to Sweden if you can

But I bet the community thing is a CTE thing

[proud mortar]

They’re already doing that right now but early next year (possibly Jan/feb) is when it’s a open CTE

[obsidian hinge]

How do you know 🤨

That is confidential if anything

[proud mortar]

The Jan/feb date it’s just speculation since that would be early next year

[obsidian hinge]

How do you know they are already doing studio playtests what I meant

[proud mortar]

They’ve stated they were

[obsidian hinge]

Haven't they only stated playtesting with the team?

[proud mortar]

I also thought they said they’re having play testers in studio testing it as well

I could be wrong

[obsidian hinge]

Hmm yeah

Who knows

[old wraith]

nobody would say even if they had seen it, the nda's are locktight

[obsidian hinge]

Ye

But if like the playtest invitation states confidential but if possibly not having signed an NDA before wouldn't that render the info free to the public?

I mean if they saw a game then yeah but just info on a playtest or something

[old wraith]

pass even from the old combattesting days nda's were there. I've still got one active from 27 years ago :S

[proud mortar]

Damn lmao

[obsidian hinge]

27 YEARS!?

[old wraith]

i know, im old. lol

the company is still active, so im sure as hell not going to risk getting nailed to the wall

[obsidian hinge]

You got some military tech NDA lol?

[proud mortar]

I winder if they’re going to bring in actual contractors in the game like triple canopy Academi wager seeing Academi would be sick

[obsidian hinge]

Area 51 UFO NDA

[wet fossil]

NATO vs PMCs is legitimately dumber than them being actually challenged by Russia

[old wraith]

think my EA ones have expired.... but again, best not to risk it lol

[wet fossil]

Like HAWX already did this and it was shit

[solid hinge]

Oh shit I had one but it was only for a few years. I used to make thermal lock on systems for heat seekers in the company I worked in lol

[random blade]

Been part of it for years, but bf hardly ever do any remote testing

[obsidian hinge]

Eyy

[proud mortar]

Ah i see you’re still here to bitch about the whole Russia vs the us bad grrr we get it you like ace combat

[wet fossil]

I just don't think Russia can be taken seriously as a peer adversary

And also they're boring

[proud mortar]

Maybe maybe not it’s a video game

[solid hinge]

Russia have lost all their chances of being scary in combat tbh

[wet fossil]

China would be more interesting to see again but somebody gets shitty whenever the PLA gets portrayed in western media in a fashion that isn't 100% shilling

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah its studio I think and then you have to go to either one of the available ones like the main here in Sweden

[random blade]

I can understand wanting new factions to be honest. But I’d still like a similar vehicle set if that’s possible

[obsidian hinge]

Or in the US or whatever

[solid hinge]

A part of me is hoping they add FPVs into the game or some type at least

[tight rain]

That somebody is me, I am the number one Chinese party enjoyer

[wet fossil]

This is why I want to see a Cold War setting instead, because at least back then it really was two giants facing off

Plus there's less annoying tech

And a lot more style

[random blade]

I’d be down for it mostly cause I don’t know what stuff existed at the time. But it would still have a similar feel to modern in a way

[obsidian hinge]

Nah. We want modern

[random blade]

But just no jungles

[obsidian hinge]

Cold war was fine for BC but as for a new BF we need modern

[wet fossil]

2042 already is your modern setting

[obsidian hinge]

What?!

Its near future

[wet fossil]

Very little in it is actually fictional

[obsidian hinge]

Wdym

There are literally railguns and shit in 2042

I mean idk if there are any irl xD

[random blade]

Bf4 has railguns and it’s still considered modern

[wet fossil]

There are two railguns and some EMP bombs.

Oh and that silly cloaking drone

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah but final stand was a "futuristic" DLC

[random blade]

All in all though I’m down for whatever

Just as long as it’s not too old or too futuristic

[wet fossil]

I'd love them to go full-bore with the sci-fi stuff

Enough of this pussy-footing around

[obsidian hinge]

They can't risk that tho

Too small of a community

EA wants money

[random blade]

They’ll go modern to play it safe that’s for certain, but I’d still be up for something else after

[wet fossil]

The community can suck my ass

They just want to play COD MW all day

[obsidian hinge]

What. Please don't compare the 2

[wet fossil]

I'd rather not be hanging on their coattails

[proud mortar]

30 years in the future

[wet fossil]

They go low, we go high. That's how BF1 got so much attention.

[obsidian hinge]

Huh 30 years?

Are we in 2012

[proud mortar]

Not 30 I’m fucking dumb sorry m at work

[obsidian hinge]

Lol np

[livid bay]

Literally the opposite of what the community wants. A ton of people hated 2042 because it felt too much like cod

[obsidian hinge]

The game literally feels like some chinese mobile game studio tried to mash CoD and BF together and failed even at that

I mean the game is pretty much fine now gameplay wise but its boring and doesn't feel right

[livid bay]

It’s a fine game but it’s a terrible battlefield

[obsidian hinge]

Yep

Just make BF2025 good

0️⃣ 5️⃣

[random blade]

How though

What makes bf, bf is different to everyone

[livid bay]

Just look at the old battlefields

[obsidian hinge]

A BF is a gritty experience with semirealistic moments. Big scale destruction with a medium pace to combat. Classes.

Bfbc2/Bf3/Bf4

[tropic vortex]

Sounds more like 2042

[obsidian hinge]

Sounds more like 2042 should've been lol

[livid bay]

2042’s classes don’t count as classes

[tropic vortex]

Says who

[livid bay]

They’re more like filters that describe the specialists

[livid bay]

I’d say “classes where you play nameless soldiers” since “classes” is a broad term

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah agreed

But I wouldn't mind characters like BFV cause those aren't "heroes"

[random blade]

Just needs to be someone with a personality that isn’t too draining and contrasting

[obsidian hinge]

Just a reskin of the guy

"Don't be sad, it's just how it works out sometimes"

"What a time to be alive"

[random blade]

Just, not that lol

[obsidian hinge]

Oh thought you meant lines

Fck

Nah I was just bringing it up

[random blade]

Even if the game wanted to go for a witty tone, those lines were downright cringe inducing. There is no way they would have ever been well received

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah lol

[random blade]

‘I’m ready for round two’, right after killing 10s of soldiers…

[obsidian hinge]

HAHAHAH

[livid bay]

The characters don’t need any personality besides for in campaign imo. In all other bfs, you are just a random soldier that you can place your own personality onto.

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah and the voicelines were actually immersive

[random blade]

Although they did have personalities, it’s just everyone had the same ones

Which is basically the same thing granted

Those personalities fit the moment though which is the most important part

Since we’re in this theorycrafting phase I might write up a little wish list of my own actually

Just for fun

[proud mortar]

Did they say if this next bf is going to be live service I can’t remember

[livid bay]

Yea

It is

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah and its sad but I have high hopes for good content delivery

[random blade]

Of course it will be

[obsidian hinge]

Bcs of the abandonment of 2042 we knew content was cut for development for the next game

So more content is definitely happening

[random blade]

Well, we hope

[old wraith]

im one of the few who preferred premium. I despise live service

[random blade]

2042 had to rework basically the entire game so there wasn’t nearly as much time to just add more stuff

Hopefully if this next one starts of strong it won’t need as much of that and can get solid expansions

[livid bay]

They both have upsides and downsides so I’m in the middle about it

[proud mortar]

I loved premium but it does decide the community a bit

[obsidian hinge]

That too

[proud mortar]

It’s awesome they have like what 3-4 studios working on this game as well all doing their own thing with I think some what free reign

[obsidian hinge]

Ye speaking of the studios. They just claimed 4 studios worked on 2042 because they brought them in at the end of development because they knew the game needed more devs

[random blade]

Well given 2042 had more studios, I wouldn’t consider that an instant green flag

[obsidian hinge]

Was it 3 or 4 for 2042

[random blade]

4 actually

The fifth was industrial toys which got axed

Honestly I’ve forgotten which studios are still open and who’s on it now.

So we’ve got dice Sweden, ripple effect, not ridgline cause they shut down, is it still criterion assisting? Forgotten the rest X/

[obsidian hinge]

But they were only brought in late development

2042

[random blade]

Yeah

I’m curious though, what do you guys prefer in terms of class selection, weapon restrictions and class playstyles

As it’s such a complex and multifaceted problem

[obsidian hinge]

I prefer class restricted weapons but exceptions for some or 2 categories

And class abilities

[random blade]

I understand both sides and can accept either in terms of weapon restrictions to be honest

[obsidian hinge]

Like different playstyles

[random blade]

I like the ability to play whatever gun on whatever class, opens up flexibility and freedom without sacrificing too much, but I also understand how weapon restrictions create a sort of natural team structure and push the class playstyles

[proud mortar]

Yeah I don’t mind class restrictions

[frigid veldt]

Quoted @BattlefieldComm

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

We've decided to postpone the rollout of EA Anticheat onto #Battlefield1 this September 24th.

There are a variety of reasonings associated with this, however, we aim for transparency and one of those is that the issue a minority of PC players experienced on #Battlefield2042 recently (now resolved) would have appeared on Battlefield 1 had we stuck to this original date.

Battlefield 1 is an old title; we want to ensure things are done correctly and we are taking the extra time to ensure that is the case. We will be in touch in the foreseeable future with an updated time and date for this rollout.

Ultimately, we want these releases to be as smooth as they can be and not impact you when they should be doing the opposite - improving your experience.

We cannot wait to see you join us on those old fields of battle once more,

Thank you for your patience,
Stay tuned for further updates!

𝕏 | 📷1 · Sep 19, 2024, 4:50 PM

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

We're pleased to share that #Battlefield1 will receive EA Anticheat on September 24th.

Previously, we extended support to #BattlefieldV, which recently saw 28,000 wrongdoers removed from the game.

This support will ensure that we continue our efforts in protecting play.

Stay tuned for further updates.

Learn more: https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/eaac-and-battlefield

𝕏 · Aug 27, 2024, 5:44 PM

[junior torrent]

Let's just restrict to 3 weapon types...

[jade verge]

ripple effect is dice la

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah they just changed name

Or did they move from LA or what

[random blade]

Just name change as far as I know

[obsidian hinge]

Ye

[south radish]

Didn't they contribute to bf4? Unless my memory is completely bad as always

[random blade]

They did

[south radish]

I see, i see 🤔

[upper berry]

They were the main team for BF4

[south radish]

🤔

Sp or mp?

[upper berry]

I think MP

[random blade]

They were the team most people talk about when they mention the ‘fixing of’ bf4

[south radish]

How about 3? They are pretty much the same game, just bf4 more polished and better UI

[south radish]

Soo basically back up 😛

[obsidian hinge]

They helped BF4 getting pulled up from the disaster launch

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah

[south radish]

I see, i see. Well, it worked. Ngl first few weeks must have been stressfull behind the scenes

It's really a shame i don't remember bf4 launch, everyone keeps saying it was so bad. But funny enough i can remember wanting to pre order during the beta

My brain a mystery

[obsidian hinge]

[south radish]

Strange

If i dont remember wrong i think i was in closed/open alpha/beta for both games

Bf3 i remember i played also on ps3. Only if ea could tell me which ones i was in 😛

Think that happened after revive 🤔

[proper hawk]

Battlefield 2 Modern Combat the best battlefield

🤐

[south radish]

At the time i really enjoyed it and yes i would agree, had lots of friends online playing but sadly lost touch with them. It's so dated if you are comparing with today

[proper hawk]

A ton of people brought it back last year and now it’s back online and playable. You probably already know that. But the website is bf2mc (dotcom)

and the discord of course

Hope they bring some of those long term missing features back to the new BF

[south radish]

I didn't know that actually 🤔

[proper hawk]

Yeah it has a very dedicated community

We’ve all played it for like 10+ years haha.

[south radish]

I even forgot how the game felt like and what features it had. Only thing i remember was soldier swap in single player

[solid hinge]

I miss the old troll videos

How the world has changed

[proper hawk]

It has full stat tracking, clans, clan ladderboard, dedicated clan matches within the servers.

[south radish]

Time files my guy and the world changes in no time 😛

[solid hinge]

Real

[upper berry]

I found this @south radish

They had more studios working on 3

[obsidian hinge]

Whaat did visceral work on BF3

wtf

And 4

Only thought it was Hardline

[south radish]

Oh yeah thats right. I think if medal of honor never was made bf3 never would have happend. If i dont remember wrong MP ui from that game was also in bf3 or at least similar style

Think it was 2010 medal of honor came out

[upper berry]

As I was looking 👀, BF3 was supposed to be for pc but somewhere at the end of development they moved over to console port

[obsidian hinge]

Never played it. How was it

What is the closest game to compare it to

It didn't have frostbite either right

[upper berry]

Midway. Not end

My b

[south radish]

I dont remember if i played it pc or console first actually. Probably pc tbh, but i doubt it would be console only game in the first place. Specially since bad company moved from console only to pc

[upper berry]

I played it on 360. But played pc version on my uncles when I stayed over

[obsidian hinge]

Who made that engine?

[upper berry]

That engine isn’t like frostbite

[south radish]

It was fantastic at the time ofc, but obviously too old now to be enjoyed by the general gamer even

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah understandable

[upper berry]

Sum deal with dmg scaling or sum. Compared to frostbite

[obsidian hinge]

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Refractor

"The Refractor engine, is a game engine designed by Stockholm-based studio Refraction Games, first developed for the computer game, Codename Eagle, which was released in March 2000."

[south radish]

Made me think of bf2 mc, sad it was only remastered for xbox360 and not ps3 as well. But at that time i focused more on bfbc anyway and was enjoying that

[obsidian hinge]

Wait?? Wasn't DICE called refraction games before or am I tripping

[obsidian hinge]

Oh nvm lol

Oh it was aquired by DICE

[south radish]

I remember they had bad company assets

I never played battlefield online, but played anyhing else. Think that was asia only or something 🤔

[proud mortar]

Man I remember after school me and the homies would hop on bf3 and play the shit out of it

[frozen geode]

New battlefield have a server browser?

[south radish]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-mac-smh-gif-27571314

Well wierd to think about how pc performance have changed

[obsidian hinge]

We don't even know a leak that has info on that

So maybe not 😭

[south radish]

Back in the day basic dynamic shadows was like a miracle

[upper berry]

So frostbite is made for destruction essentially

And lighting

[south radish]

Didnt bf2 mc use renderware? 🤔

[upper berry]

Yea

[south radish]

Mid range pc these days would probably considered servers that time

If not more if you consider gpu performance also

[rapid scarab]

[south radish]

Wasnt refraction also bought by dice eventually? I don't really remember/know the full story

Ngl not unrealistic statement if you ask me

[obsidian hinge]

They merged

The 2 companies

[south radish]

Ahhhh, i see, i see

[tribal phoenix]

Tbh bf 4 AI is crazy, u click engage in campaign and Irish,dunna and pac dont do damage. Its like blank bullets bru

Dunn and***

Istg my grammar

[obsidian hinge]

xD

Also 2042 looks ass compared to BFV

[south radish]

Yeah i would partially agree, but 2042 been mostly cpu requirement though. 128p did take some performance. But generally yes i would agree for sure

[south radish]

2042 had better graphics

[obsidian hinge]

No it doesn't

Overall details have gone down

By a lot

Yeah I guess but it looks almost cartoonish compared to BFV

[south radish]

If you compare a destroyed city to not destroyed orbital ofc there is less details 😛

[upper berry]

Refractor Engine is a game engine that was designed by Stockholm-based studio Refraction Games, first developed for the video game Codename Eagle, which was released in November 1999. Refraction Games was later bought by Digital Illusions CE, and the engine was used in their flagship first-person shooter title, Battlefield, specifically the first in the series Battlefield 1942. DICE later designed and developed the Refractor 2 Engine to be used for the second installment of the sequel to Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 2.

So dice bought it. It seems

[tribal phoenix]

I still have Battlefield 1942

[obsidian hinge]

And omg since BFV I've been so mad at the forced TAA on. It is driving me nuts

[tribal phoenix]

Haven't played it in a long time

[upper berry]

Anti aliasing isn’t bad

[obsidian hinge]

BUT WHY FORCE IT

[south radish]

I will be honest i never saw the cartonish feel. Contrast and vibrance changed ofc. But keep in mind in many cases bf5 maps was destroyed and had plenty of details cause of that

[obsidian hinge]

There isn't

[upper berry]

Idk why people don’t like it tbh

[obsidian hinge]

TAA is the worst AA of them all btw

FXAA is better

[upper berry]

It’s built in. You can also change the settings

[south radish]

I know i have pretty bad memory but was confident about that one 😛

[upper berry]

But antialiasing at higher settings is performance hog

[obsidian hinge]

No you can't turn it off

[upper berry]

I had to look it up

[tribal phoenix]

Ima ask sum which graphics were better BFV or BF1

[south radish]

TAA is my favorite, overall. But in some games its soo much ghosting i am crying

[south radish]

Fair enough

[upper berry]

To make it better. DLSS don’t use antialiasing. it uses it own

[south radish]

Also isnt fxaa like post effect?

[obsidian hinge]

Whaaat really

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah makes it kind of blurry but not as bad as TAA

[upper berry]

Idk if it cancels out in game Antialiasing. But it makes it look and feel better on Rtx cards

[obsidian hinge]

Yep it definitely does

On quality as well

[upper berry]

I always run quality. Cuz my PC can handle it still

[south radish]

Taa isn't too bad though, it gives overall plesant image to view, but the ghosting is whats worst with it. From bf5 to now, dice has added sharpening which completelly breaks image. I do suspect its cromatic abberation effect if they havent added sharpening filter

[upper berry]

If I need more performance, I’ll tune it down one or two.

[random blade]

🤢

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah but having a monitor like the G9 OLED I actually want to use my pixels how I want

[random blade]

It looks like a wet smudge when taa is on

[upper berry]

I always use sharpness if it’s an option and antialiasing ( if DLSS isn’t available) I run low settings but go for the best pixel quality I can have.

[random blade]

It feels so good being able to play games where I can turn that stuff off and get a pretty image

The only time i regret it is when games use LOD dithering

[obsidian hinge]

Exactly, like BF1

[random blade]

But it’s a minor price to pay for a clean screen

[upper berry]

I don’t mind it being on. Tbh even if it’s automatic in game on

[random blade]

In shooters it absolutely shouldn’t

The finals is the worst example

Painful ghosting, in a fast paced shooter…

[obsidian hinge]

Like wtf. In NFS they don't force it so its not an engine issue

[upper berry]

I just play the game. I don’t stare at my weapon to see ghosting. Even then. I barely even notice it

[obsidian hinge]

Makes no sense to force it on in BF

[random blade]

The only game where forced TAA looks alright is AC mirage, but it still hurts my eyes

[south radish]

How is it hurting your eyes though? At worst it would be like regular motion blur effect

Cause of ghosting

[upper berry]

Ew motion blur. I always insta turn that off

[random blade]

It has me feeling like my eyes aren’t focussed, which gives me a sort of dizzy feeling for a while

[obsidian hinge]

I can relate

[junior torrent]

Call me insane...

I don't mind motion blur, chromatic aberration, and dynamic camera system

[obsidian hinge]

Especially being used to OLED which has no motion blur

[random blade]

If games kept letting us disable it I wouldn’t give a damn, but it’s the fact that it’s being forced now which pains me

Perfectly good looking games being ruined by a smudge that only makes it look worse

[upper berry]

Dizzy it don’t make me dizzy I just don’t like the effect of it

[obsidian hinge]

For maybe Forza Horizon yes not for any FPS game

[junior torrent]

I want to feel the experience, the torment pain, the war

[south radish]

I see, i see 🤔 Never though about it that way, never experienced that also. But fair enough tbh

[obsidian hinge]

You caaaan. But with real vision

[upper berry]

I keep chromatic aberration on. But don’t like camera shake or motion blur.

[obsidian hinge]

Not some filter

[junior torrent]

Then you would hate NFS shift lol

[obsidian hinge]

Yeah I haven't really played it much

[upper berry]

I play to much shooters. Especially Player V Player. Not bots

[junior torrent]

It has shaking camera, motion blur. And filter screen effect when you crash

[random blade]

It's a personal thing, I can understand that. heck, I feel feint when I hear a heartbeat sound in games which is very uncommon but I can't help it. it's just I absolutely hate taa

[junior torrent]

And also

I don't mind OG cod MW2 blood screen

[random blade]

but TAA is being used as a way to improve performance in most games nowadays so it's unfortunately unavoidable. Which irks me the most

[upper berry]

I love blood screen. It helps me if I’m low or not.

[junior torrent]

The critical health screen in mw19 was also nice

Including the muffle sound

[upper berry]

I didn’t mind it. I thought I was nice touch to it.

[obsidian hinge]

I was so mad at TAA in BFV so I started a live chat to EA to give them feedback about not including it in the next game (2042) didn't know at the time.

[random blade]

I still do when a new game launches, but it's just how it is from now on

just glad lots of AA games still let you change it

[upper berry]

Cod games have AA built into it you can’t change it.

People complain about it. I don’t have a issue with it one bit like BF games

[vale grail]

I just hope the next Battlefield title is well written in story, well designed and just fun yet challengeing to play.

[obsidian hinge]

Truee

[random blade]

Hopefully it simply having a campaign can help give its maps more weight

[vale grail]

In my time playing games, I've figured it down to two types of difficult; tedious difficult where the mechanics and input lag along with other poorly made features/elements are the real difficulty and not the complexity or creativity of enemies. And fun difficult where you'd have a real challenge but it's more rewarding because the difficulty would be from complex yet workable enemy types/mechanics that'd require true skill to beat.

[vale grail]

BO1 and WaW had that motif down to a 't'

[random blade]

Yup, that’s about sums it up

Games where you can see your mistakes and make corrections are the only ones where meaningful challenge adds to the fun

[vale grail]

Like TitanFall 2's campaign

Or Half-Life, the harder difficulties force you to be more tactical and fully utilize the Source props and environments to your advantage, one misstep, one mistake and you're dead but you deal just as much damage when you know how to fight them.

Bad Company 2 had that style of gameplay in campaign and multiplayer, you never felt all that out gunned.

[obsidian hinge]

I loved all reload animations in Bad Company 2. That mag slap in the end

Satisfying

[junior torrent]

NGL

Beiny limited to not sprinting in any direction

[random blade]

Although I will admit titanfall 2’s campaign feels like an exception. As enemies have hitscan projectiles and consistent tracking even while you are airborne, it feels like higher difficulties push you to play more cover focussed than movement focussed, which I feel turns it away from the core feel of the game

[junior torrent]

I don't mind it

[random blade]

So quake sprint?

[vale grail]

you can be movement focused, just need to know how to move ;)

[random blade]

Just not when they track you like they do

Been many years since I finished playing master but they’d even track you through tap strafes

[uneven cape]

i wish the new bf game was set on the korean war, theres literally no games set on it

[wet fossil]

It’s a bit limited in terms of environments but the equipment selection would be like nothing else

WW2 gear brushing shoulders with early Cold War weapons

[vale grail]

Well, you're stuck with stealth in the campaign, which is annoying but understandable, you can't have the player gust grappling through everything and skip the entire level

[random blade]

yeah that's just the thing, I wanna grapple like a madman, but I can always just enjoy that in the lower difficulties so all's good

[vale grail]

Not the same, channel your inner strafejumper and dewit

[random blade]

i am getting an urge to play it again though, been too long

not the campaign, just mp

[uneven cape]

fr

this new battlefield is gonna be a fumble we alr had too many modern day warfare battlefields

[junior torrent]

I just want better solo mode

That's all I'm asking

[vale grail]

then why waste your time talking to us? Your titan is ready, pilot.

[obsidian hinge]

Bro whaaat

Let em cook

[uneven cape]

last time they cooked it burned

[obsidian hinge]

xD last time all things were against them

[teal fractal]

just got a new kill record on achi cq in bf1

feels good

116 kills

[urban sable]

lol

This community has no spine

Remember when everyone was decrying BFV and 2042? How we should stop pre ordering games?

Now I’m being told ITS MY RIGHT TO DO WHAT I WANT WITH MY MONEY!!1

I’m actually losing it

The community just flip flopped over a couple pieces of text and 3 concept artworks

I’m being gaslight into thinking that it’s somehow unreasonable to wait until the game comes out

[vocal dirge]

Anybody whos good at teaching postioning?

[random blade]

don't know where you're seeing that, everyone I've spoken to as well as myself will preach no pre orders.

but it's the internet, there's communities within communities, it's never 'the community now things this is acceptable', it's just the ones that say otherwise are louder... temporarily

[vale grail]

*positioning

[vale grail]

I still stand by that fact, BFV and 2042 were enough reason to never pre-order anything ever again unless it's a Metro title because 4A games still know how to cook

[urban sable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/xii3n5UV5C

Pre ordering should be illegal

I’m serious

How did we get swingled into thinking it’s ok to sell a consumer product without physically having jt

[proud mortar]

Lmao no no I don’t think so

[teal fractal]

its very difficult to teach positioning in bf games

because its always very situational and the situations change extremely fast

best way to learn is to get more experience

• you just need to learn the maps tbh

general idea is cover to cover and pay attention to enemy rotations, direction of movement and pay a lot of attention to audio cues

[vocal dirge]

yeah TBH Im about as dumb as a rock, however I have been becoming an awakened rock slowly

cuz like for the past 13 years of playing MP PVP shooters im starting to undo the whole turn my brain off and run at the enemy with no thought or plan

and using more of my brain matter

[teal fractal]

i have a 91 cq kill game of bf1 in my youtube idk if you can get something out of there

[vocal dirge]

Also using aim trainers.

but I found out that good aim alone

[teal fractal]

but its very difficult to explain

[vocal dirge]

will not save you.

[teal fractal]

kinda pointless imo

[vocal dirge]

I get frustrated when I have a high fire rate gun, hit all my shots in CQC but somebody with a much slower gun somehow kills me.

[teal fractal]

as someone who has really good aim on bf1 and id consider myself a fairly good player, current cq record is 116 kills in bf1

[vocal dirge]

They do indeed, help, however if you spend more time on the aim trainer than you do playing actual games. its well

yeah XD

[teal fractal]

im insanely bad at other shooters and it doesnt translate over aswell into other games

[vocal dirge]

also holy F lmao

I tend to play support and use guns with Bipods

[teal fractal]

you can pretty much use anything

[vocal dirge]

So in some situations I put myself at a disadvantage in say BFV or BF4.

[teal fractal]

but again its very situational

[vocal dirge]

I love just having unlimited ammo and being able to suppress that next guy for the next 5 minutes

I feel bad cuz they nerfed suppression again in BFV

[teal fractal]

sometimes rifles work best, sometimes mgs/lmgs work best sometimes smgs etc

my bf5 cq record is 83 kills

[vocal dirge]

yeah, I used to think tho that 99% of the time I loose a CQB battle it was cuz I had a slower rate of fire weapon.

cq as in conquest or close quaters?

[teal fractal]

i havent really played 5 so i cant say much about guns tbh

conquest

[vocal dirge]

ahh I see nice

also theres a good series called final meta

that covers every weapon in the game after the last content patch.

it seems like every weapon in the game has a ninche/role to fill and can excell if used well even the guns you think wouldn't be good

[teal fractal]

my favorites have been tommy, zk, mp, 1907

and some other assault gun i cant remember

• turner

[vocal dirge]

one example being the STEN, MP40 and Welgun, I used to sorta just stay away from em cuz I thought they were bad, turns out I was using it wrong

[teal fractal]

ah yes sten and welgun are good too

mp40 too

[vocal dirge]

MP40 and STEN are good for headshots and standing still/crouching before aiming

while welgun is a strafe aiming headshot beast.

[teal fractal]

bf games if you react fast youre almost always going to win the fight regardless of the gun and where you shoot tbh

[vocal dirge]

I typically play MMG or AT rifle, One thing I love about BFV is theres no 3d spotting so using your ears and eyes becomes much more important.

and the cosmetics play a good role/decent size role in staying hidden

[teal fractal]

the spotting system in 5 is pretty ass

[vocal dirge]

I love it TBH

[teal fractal]

they implemented it better in 2042

[vocal dirge]

Cuz like in BF4 or BF1 you could just point at an enemy and all of a sudden doritos

[teal fractal]

you can stare at the enemys soul and you just cant spot him lol

[vocal dirge]

well actually ok so it doesn't "spot" him as in give the triangle above the head

but it does create a red shield Icon

that your squad can see.

thats if you directly aim at them when you press the Q key,

[teal fractal]

i like that you cant just spot everyone yes but it just lowkey doesnt work at times lol

[vocal dirge]

I mean TBF I think the "danger over here" is still useful

also TBH I need to play more BF2042

[teal fractal]

yeah but it can be so easily misplaced because the game doesnt really get it

[vocal dirge]

I know the spotting is most useful when you are downed.

You point at the enemy, gives the red shield icon you can keep spamming it and it follows them

[vocal crag]

Real

[frigid veldt]

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[tired jacinth]

Does anyone still rock BF4? Looking for three to boost Final Stand Map wins

[hexed harness]

New to the community. Check out this gameplay video:
https://www.youtube.com/live/6JEbh5fD5nU?si=MPcPEItE41wqx6Zc

[gentle venture]

I have seen more people complain about people pre-ordering than I have seen anyone actually suggest they are pre-ordering, or that people should pre-order

[plucky cairn]

How’s it going in bf24054 or what’s it called?

[halcyon sundial]

yea preordering is evil

[solar nexus]

https://youtu.be/RI6RKCCyiTE?si=fNQIM51ytn1HGsdh

The next battlefield needs bf1's sound design and atmosphere

[rich ember]

just please do not have BF1's gameplay.

[swift sandal]

I hope they manage to make modern setting more appealing than in 2042 (supposedly "near future"). Levels filled with cubes looking like cargo containers or concrete blocks don't make for a too interesting look and feel. Peak art direction...

[buoyant ice]

Uhhhh

I re-downloaded bf1

I have the in the name of the tsar dlc

But

I’m playing on maps from another dlc and I don’t have my fedorov avtomot gun

Did the game mess up my dlcs??

[teal fractal]

Did you buy it with warbounds?

You have to buy it with that and only then you can play

[buoyant ice]

I used to have it

Before I deleted the game

I fixed the issue tho

Just bought premium for a couple bucks

[stark walrus]

Anywone still playing BF3 that can help with me the game not launching properly?

[dusk ice]

I agree tho

[buoyant ice]

Ngl I don’t

I have high hopes but they could easily mess up

[upper berry]

Easily mess up

They are going back the old ways of battlefield development

This is how it was when BF games are good

Close to the community and cte

[tropic vortex]

[visual parrot]

Idk, the guy who said "we have a philosophy at dice, put our community first" that's straight up cap.

they have a philosophy to put the money first and community 5th

[uneven cape]

it doesnt even bring anything new to the table

only thing it can do is be old fashioned like bf4 in terms of gameplay and destruction and shit to please the old fans

but thats literally it

[upper berry]

This is them going back to the old development ways of battlefield to regain the population back

[young saddle]

Yo Dice pls revive battlefield thx

Make it feel like BF3 and im happy i guess

Thats the minimum we expect

[upper berry]

They said it will be BF3/4 alike

Idk what they mean by that but yea

[tropic vortex]

2042 Caspian and canals on CQ

[young saddle]

Let me hit my homeboy Vince Zampella rq

[astral saffron]

You do that I'll hit up my homie Byron Beede

[pliant girder]

I’ve got the reaction of time of a tree

[teal fractal]

also big tip to starting players take a good look at your ingame settings

the base game settings are pretty bad imo

blurring out unnecessary info, minimap settings, fov, sens etc it all helps drastically

[pliant girder]

Capturing an objective and the text blinds me more than a flash bang ever could lol

[teal fractal]

after i changed my settings when i started i went upto 2-3kpm

[young saddle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[young saddle]

dice should continue with bf3 story

would be nice eh

Plot twist ||Montez|| didnt die

imagine

[solid carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-pfp-anime-pfp-opinion-profile-gif-24421794

thanks tenor

[upper berry]

They did continue it with BF4

I wonder if dice is making the next game after BF4 but before 2042 to fill in the gap

[young saddle]

bf4 was kinda eh

[solid carbon]

the worst

[junior torrent]

I mean yeah

Dodgy AI bots there

[young saddle]

campaign CAMPAIGN

[junior torrent]

Not fun

[young saddle]

I MEAN CAMPAIGN

[solid carbon]

nah even the MP

[young saddle]

multiplayer was fine

[junior torrent]

WR is gonna save the game