battlefield-legacy-titles

[junior torrent]

the main issue of all BF

all servers are conquest or BT or campaign

and mostly base maps, no DLC

[halcyon sundial]

it is what it is. bf1 still the best gameplay and damn the game good to look at too.

[junior torrent]

this pisses me off

servers hosting same shitty map pool and modes

never taking advantage of all game content

all of this does not matter

which is why

I SAID BEFORE

AI bots is an important benefactor to a game like BF

[halcyon sundial]

well i think AI will always be apart of future BF titles now after BF2042

[junior torrent]

after what people told me in the other channel, I doubt it

[junior torrent]

the bots in that damn game is not even perfect

and the options to play solo is shit

[halcyon sundial]

oh for sure they need work

[junior torrent]

have solo mode be like COD training mode

full multiplayer content, rank system

good bots and all accessilibty to maps and modes

there

[hasty marsh]

they could easily cut them again

[halcyon sundial]

i mean you are not wrong tbh

[thick palm]

Damn, so attack planes are better than fighter planes in this game? I always gravitated to the fighter ones and idk what but there’s something about them i love when i’m using one

[frigid veldt]

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[thick palm]

I never knew about the maneuvers. I’ll watch a video showing how to do it so i can practice it. Thanks!

[dense bone]

And what have you learned

[sly raven]

Nothing

Just confirmed I’m right

[dense bone]

https://tenor.com/view/saucelessss-soheb-monkey-gif-24441676

[sly raven]

I’m always right

[dense bone]

K

[hasty marsh]

[sly raven]

I mean it’s factual

ever seen me lose an argument?

I’m probably among the top 1% of debaters

[halcyon sundial]

god on bf1 Monte Grappa is just cheeks bruh.... i forgot how cheeks but damn i was just reminded

Monte Crappa

[thick palm]

Somehow for me this map is OK to me.. I like how they have the bunker areas on B and D but it sucks when your team has only spawn area to spawn at and the enemy team has all the areas collected

[halcyon sundial]

yea it is very stiuational and dependent on game mode fr

just not a fave of mine at all lol

[thick palm]

Yea true true

Giants shadow is probably the only map i’m really eh about. Idk I’m gonna have to think on it lol

[halcyon sundial]

yea giants shadow is meh fr

[solid hinge]

Anyone want to play bf5?

[solid carbon]

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[ruby trail]

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[solid hinge]

Is the Mark V (Tank hunter Variant)'s rifle different from the infantry kit or something???

You cannot look at me dead in the eyes and tell me the shot just goes past a guy who's standing still

It feels like it has stronger bullet drop

[midnight wave]

Guys is it a curse that everytime i start playing bfv the servers have the same maps everytime

[halcyon sundial]

happens to me too

[worldly dune]

I love bf1 so much

[tawdry burrow]

I completely agree
Bf5 is good but bf1 just feels more like war

Btw on the topic of bf 1 what assault weapon would yall recommend? I've been trying to get into the class after getting max on sniper and wanted to try it out but I don't really like fast fire rate guns

[junior torrent]

anything that is not auto fire lol

easy to figure out

[tawdry burrow]

I know but which ones would you recommend?
I tried the hunter shotgun and its good but I end up usually being too far away to do any damage

[junior torrent]

semi or manual rifle

[tawdry burrow]

It's on assault?
I'll look for them then

[junior torrent]

if that does not work, then go play as recon

for sniper rifle

[tawdry burrow]

I'll try model 900 and the m1917 carbine

[solid hinge]

It's my favorite, had no problem with it

[solid hinge]

I have a lot of fun with rsc smg and m1917 carbine

Just don't use shotgun or smg 08/18

[tawdry burrow]

The rsc is interesting for sure but I'll have to get used to its ammo first

[tawdry burrow]

Shotguns overall?

[solid hinge]

Yeah it's weird when you start with it

[solid hinge]

It kills all the fun for me

[tawdry burrow]

I wouldn't say start since I already played a good bit but I haven't played in a while

Fair enough

[solid hinge]

It took me awhile to get used to it but once you get it, it's very powerful in cqc

[tawdry burrow]

Also whitch veriant of the m1917 carbine should I try first?

[stable junco]

Guys what if BF7 had combat mechanics simmilar to CoD MW 2019?
Im sure some would disagree but imo it would be kinda cool

[livid bay]

... If we wanted cod we'd just go play cod. There's a reason why the mechanics are different

[stable junco]

Many loved how MW2019 turned out with its gun gameplay and the thing is, Battlefield has many things which COD doesnt like tanks, driving planes, attack helicopters, bigger maps, better landscapes, building destruction

Also i didnt mean the same gameplay but inspired

And these new COD arent achieving what MW 2019 did

Today MW 2019 has many hackers and devs abandoned it

But at the end of the day, some may like Battlefield combat more regardless so its a bit subjective

[sly raven]

The COD gunplay being added to Battlefield creates Delta Force

[livid bay]

Yeah, but just because it worked on MW2019 doesn't meant that Battlefield needs it. Imo, Titanfall 2 has the best movement mechanics of any game. But that doesn't mean that every game that's somewhat similar to Titanfall 2 should have Titanfall 2 movement. Each game has it's own style and changing stuff like gunplay to be like another franchise's makes the franchise lose it's style

[sly raven]

The battlefield series though has never been defined by its gunplay

It’s selling point are the vehicles and big war experience

Improving the gunplay could widen the audience while not taking away from the other appeals

[stable junco]

Ye I agree, but overall my point was that adding gunplay simmilar to MW 2019 could suit it in this case

[stable junco]

Yes

[livid bay]

I do admit that gunplay is something that can be continually improved on but there's a line that shouldn't be crossed when it comes to changing the overall feeling of it. Though, it has already kinda been crossed with 2042

[sly raven]

Make TTK realistic for a true all out war experience

[livid bay]

That'd be too realistic. Battlefield has always been on the line between realism and arcade

With it leaning a bit more towards arcade

[stable junco]

Something simmilar to Arma when it comes to health/durability?

[tight rain]

Aye if you want that then hell let loose or something would be up your alley

Fucking auto correct

[sly raven]

Real arcades limit lives

Add a 3 life limit

Genius move

[livid bay]

Please don't give EA ideas to add more monetization. I can already see "Pay $20 to get an extra 2 lives per round"

[stable junco]

Loll ☠️

Maybe theres should be certain gamemodes where u have infinite respawn and limited respawn

[hasty marsh]

he said bf1

[tropic vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-gif-24255328

[hasty marsh]

"Watch this ad to get more lives"

[gray glade]

premium ammo for 1$ per 1000 bullets

[dense bone]

sounds like you would like DF

[dense bone]

bf is like.. 10% more realistic than cod.. aka still SQUARELY an arcade fps

[stable junco]

I might give it a try. Does it have building destruction and will it get planes maybe?

[bright dome]

Is there any battlefield V server?

[dense bone]

that would be horrible, basically hardcore on roids which would just mean any weapon that shoots fast would be meta. dmg design would be near meaningless and youd just get a bunch of campers with smgs and snipers

[dense bone]

very light building destruction and idk about planes? i didnt notice any in the alpha

[bright dome]

🤔🤔

[stable junco]

I see

[livid bay]

Eh, I’d say like 15 to 20% due to the fact you can actually strategize in 90% of BF’s modes.

But yeah, I’d agree that BF is an arcade shooter. It just has more realistic elements than most of the other arcade shooters out there.

[sly raven]

Real military battles are not “meaningless”

[tawdry obsidian]

guys can any one help fixieng a error ?i cant open the game xd

[dense bone]

I’m talking about gun damage numbers wouldnt matter anymore.

[tight rain]

The amount of damage the small arms in those battles were capable of doing is near meaningless though

At least in the context of the battlefield series

[sleek mist]

I honestly started to find it suppppper annoying how silly it is how rifle caliber machine guns only do like~ 20 damage.
I've started to find the Verdun, Tannenburg & Isonzo very nice for this reason

[dense bone]

the idea that caliber converts to to a numerical damage value and people have a base health of 100hp and lose health depending on range, caliber and where they are shot at is silly in the first place

[sly raven]

theoretically a base health of 100 makes sense

[dense bone]

the problem with having expectations of bigger caliber doing bigger damage just means that now anything that has a high caliber and high rof will just dominate the meta

[sly raven]

yeah but that makes bigger caliber pointless altogether

[sleek mist]

I suppose the most accurate way would to have a "War Thunder" like system for damage~ Only, for the Human body?

[sly raven]

I guess an in lore excuse for 2042 could be advanced armor

[dense bone]

99% of casual shooters dont consider caliber at all

[sly raven]

yeah but we're not supposed to be the 99%

we wanna be the top 1%

[dense bone]

it mostly comes down to weapon types and their defining factors and how they balance it, which typically means high rof means low dmg no matter the caliber

[dense bone]

bf isnt supposed to be in the 99%?

[sly raven]

did not read the next message clearly

[dense bone]

i read it and im still confused what you are trying to say

[sly raven]

we want to be top 1%

[dense bone]

bf is like 99% of other shooters in its design

[sly raven]

which means being ahead of the curve, not regular

[dense bone]

yea my comment wasnt about that

[hasty marsh]

This is how BF4 and 1 were balanced. Usually high caliber and high rof would be balanced through more subjective stats like handling

[dense bone]

and i argue bf4 and bf1 had very obvious meta picks

ESPECIALLY bf4

and tbf, the dmg values between guns in bf4 werent drastically different anyway

[sly raven]

games having meta |= balance being wrong

not every playstyle should be rewarded every time

[forest siren]

Honestly the way they chose calibers for balancing is weird. And it doesnt really tell you what 7.62 NATO or whatever does versus 556

Like to people who know guns it might be a bit more obvious but yknow.

[dense bone]

uhhh kinda? (though i dont care about bf being balanced, its not the game for that considering you can randomly select a vehicle and increase your effectiveness x3 just because)

[sly raven]

we need battlefield gunplay to be more like tarkov

[hasty marsh]

This is because it was based on caliber. All 556 weapons or equivalents had the same damage in their class, same with 7.62 and equivalents.
The meta ones in BF4 arent determined solely by caliber + rof. The Famas beats out the AEK in fire rate, but the AEK is the more dominant meta

[sly raven]

and less like roblox games

[forest siren]

Infantry vs infantry needs to be balanced. But at the same time one heli or plane shouldnt be able to wipe an entire squad in a single salvo like they do in 4.

[sly raven]

that is very dumb

irl the heli and plane prob could

also nerfing them to death is a terrible idea

[forest siren]

ESPECIALLY if theres as much destruction as there is. Or very little cover.

[dense bone]

irl a plane, tank, etc cant be operated by a single person

at least not the way they can be in bf games

[sly raven]

in bf2042 it makes sense imo

[dense bone]

(not that bf games should be concerned about IRL)

[forest siren]

Its still an arcade shooter and still a video game. Fun and balance should be more important than "What a tank can do" or "What a airplane can do" to human flesh.

[sly raven]

okay but the point of being infantry among tanks and vehicles is being smart and avoiding them

[forest siren]

Because at that point you might as well be making Insurgency.

[sly raven]

if you can't do that that is your problem

or alternatively blowing up the vehicles

[dense bone]

id be 100% down for vehicles to be powerful if you actually needed multiple people to operate them. a single person in a tank driving around and shooting everything is not "realistic" either

[forest siren]

Most maps dont allow for that or force you to either use tanks yourself or transport helis.

[sly raven]

like I said, the battlefield 2042 system makes sense for this

vehicles are limited in functionality without multiple people for most things

[forest siren]

And quite frankly: I fucking hate needing to use a vehicle to get from A to B.

Its bad design for Battlefield.

[hasty marsh]

I think its best to translate real life into the game with consistent rules, rather than ignoring IRL or becoming a milsim. It is fun to have things behave how you expect them to, it creates a better sense that the world is an interactive environment.

[dense bone]

afaik all bf functioned like this and will continue to function like this no matter the setting.. so that doesnt really matter

[sly raven]

bf2042 is a great game just needs to be built off of this

[sly raven]

also, battlefield has always been about the all out war experience

getting obliterated by a tank is probably a rather common experience

[hasty marsh]

actual combat plays out nothing like any entry in the battlefield franchise

[sly raven]

true

but a tank would be expected to destroy a squad running out in the open like a bunch of idiots

[forest siren]

Like I don't mind tanks and vehicles being powerful. But I do mind when entire villages can get levelled in a open field, forcing the infantry to fuck off entirely. Like Golmud? That was the worst map ive played since Caspian.

The only cover you get are rocks littered around here and there. The ONLY viable infantry vs Infantry area can still be disrupted by vehicles.

Thats not fun.

[dense bone]

(because its a casual arcade boots to the ground shooter just slightly more realistic/war like than cod)

[forest siren]

Its why all the Last Stand maps are genuinely the peak of 4.

[sly raven]

that's why you need to learn stealth

big brain moves

[hasty marsh]

golmud is in broad daylight

[sly raven]

doesn't stop skilled players

[hasty marsh]

noones stealthing in golmud

[forest siren]

Massive open areas for vehicles and snipers? Check. Areas for infantry to go to to evade tanks? Check. Actual buildings that can hold their weight? And prevents vehicles from ruining the fight? Check.

[sly raven]

you wouldn't know cause you can't see them

[hasty marsh]

fuck hes got a point

[forest siren]

Alot of 4's maps are better off as vehicle only or Rush (if that.) And or higher player counts.

[sly raven]

this is why battlefield 2042 maps are peak

they got everything you want

[forest siren]

People complain about 2042 maps but then they forget that the majority of 4's maps are genuinely worse.

[dense bone]

i wonder if this is where the metro hype came from

[forest siren]

I personally love 2042 maps.

[sly raven]

bf4 just doesn't reward your playstyle, oh well

[dense bone]

they are good now

[hasty marsh]

I dont understand how vehicle only modes arent standard in this franchise. Surely a tank game mode would be more popular than another 16v16 objective mode

[sly raven]

bfv maps are TRUE garbage

[forest siren]

I have no clue either tbh

[dense bone]

considering there are limited vehicles its a weird design choice to NOT support what 80-90% of the players are doing in every match..

[sly raven]

dice is incompetent

[forest siren]

I don't mind Metro. But its overstayed its welcome IMO. But I wouldnt mind seeing it again.

Locker however? Eeeeh. So long as the fucking AMR isnt there.

Like I prefer Redacted for my Infantry vs Infantry brainrot map lmao

[hasty marsh]

Fort De Vaux is the best one theyve done IMO.

[forest siren]

DICE is competent but they do genuinely need to get their shit together.

They CAN make good games. Hell both the Battlefronts despite 2's launch are amazing. Albeit I prefer Battlefront 1 because I can actually choose my gender and also bacta nade. And the heroes were balanced in the sense of there only being one per team.

Also like 50 guns.

[hasty marsh]

Depends on bad the turnover is

[sly raven]

so basically they're incompetent but talented

[forest siren]

Battlefront 2 just feels like the original but you can change your colour of Clone to blue. Whereas I want to actually CUSTOMIZE my trooper lmao

[junior torrent]

Bf 2015 had terrible solo mode

[forest siren]

Battlefront 2's launch was due to EA

[junior torrent]

2017 rectified that

[hasty marsh]

Both battlefront games dont feel like good sandboxes. Maps are either linear tours of an area or the cramped and formulaic conquest mode in 2 (that just sends you to a ship anyway)

[forest siren]

If EA werent breathing down DICEs neck constantly i'm almost positive DICE would make Battlefield 3 quality games.

But it depends on EA and Dice leadership

[sly raven]

Battlebit copied bf3 and made a killing off of it

[forest siren]

Yeah the conquest tug of war gets boring real quick but its a great mindless farm.

[sly raven]

DICE should take more notes

[sly raven]

(Died quickly but sales are sales)

[forest siren]

Battlebit feels like a bite off more than they can chew scenario. That whole thing was poor leadership at its prime.

[hasty marsh]

battlebit was successful because of its early access strategy, low requirements, and low price.
It died because the developers poorly managed their time and much needed updates have been scope-creeped into oblivion

[forest siren]

Yup.

[hasty marsh]

They could have salvaged it

[forest siren]

Great game, but overhyped at the time. Given they didnt bother hiring more people.

[hasty marsh]

they didnt need more people, they needed a more coherent vision and better self organization

[sly raven]

Battlebit was overhyped trash but the massive player modes were good

Battlefield needs to go all in on 256 player stuff

[forest siren]

I don't see them putting out updates fast enough for them to please the masses with what was it? Just two people?

[hasty marsh]

they can barely handle 128 on a technical level

[sly raven]

It’s funny asf how people thought battlebit was the next battlefield replacement

And that it’d keep bf2042 dead

Now the player counts

[dense bone]

id argue more than half of battlebit sales were from meme kids just wanting to shit on 2042

[hasty marsh]

bbr was a good deal, it was popular for a reason.

[forest siren]

Too be fair, people are desperate for a "good" battlefield experience.

So of course they'll jump to the next big thing that Might be competition.

[junior torrent]

Meanwhile

[hasty marsh]

lemme guess, bots

[junior torrent]

I'm here wishing for a BF game to have excellent solo mode

[hasty marsh]

lmao

[forest siren]

Just like we see with DFHO. Cant wait to see how fast that game dies.

Not to say I want it to die

[hasty marsh]

DFHO will probably hold the fort. Its better than 2042 from what Ive played, but thats not a high bar to beat. If BF6 is an actually competent game, it will probably eclipse DFHO easily.

[forest siren]

Its just theres ALOT of issues with it still. And it mimics alot of shit 2042 has. And people fucking hate 2042 for those reasons.

Its less fluid. Gunplay feels like CoD (aka no bursting/CoF only hold down the trigger and you can win a 50m engagement if you manage recoil) and the vehicles are bad and can be called in.

Well I say "Feels" when I havent even played it. Lmao

From WHAT IVE SEEN*

Because I have been watching Ravic play it.

[forest siren]

2042 coulda been good with a Campaign. Battlefield doesn't really Need a campaign but theres a market for it. And I quite frankly woulda loved to learn more about 2042's lore (which i know, gross. Lore. Lmao)

[hasty marsh]

pacing is pretty decent. Sliding is limited to the assault kit which IMO is a good compromise. Gunplay is defines mostly by a sway mechanic which seems to increase as you fire, definitley didnt feel like lazer beams. Vehicles were definitley floaty.

[junior torrent]

remember what I said before? Multiplayer but only bots, not single player campaign

[sly raven]

Meeting Oz could’ve been cool

[forest siren]

Yeah i'll give it a try when it comes out. Maybe i'll have a series X by then.

[forest siren]

Oh I missed that part mb.

That too actually.

[hasty marsh]

I suspect it will be decently more popular than enlisted.

[junior torrent]

Cod BO1 training mode almost captured that well

Minus limiting game modes to TDM

[forest siren]

But I doubt DFHO will replace 2042 for me honestly. 2042 despite its problems is still one of my favourite games that came out in recent years.

[junior torrent]

I'm gonna guess delta won't have solo multiplayer mode lol

[hasty marsh]

my issue with DFHO is that theres no conquest, at least rn. They have breathrough and king of the hill, so the game feels more like battlefront 2's repetitive monotony than a good sandbox like bf or even bbr

[forest siren]

Delta will have a campaign in UE5 while the Tarkov/Battlefield games are UE4.

So it might have solo

[hasty marsh]

[forest siren]

They actually added conquest not too long ago

Ravic was playing on it

[hasty marsh]

the patch notes said KOTH. so was it shadowdropped?

[junior torrent]

I'll see about it lol

[forest siren]

It might have been?

[junior torrent]

Keeping my skepticism

[hasty marsh]

ima boot it up

[forest siren]

All I know is that Ravic is/was actively playing a Conquest mode.

[junior torrent]

What other modes are there

[forest siren]

But hearing him say "Like is a strong word" for DFHO is making me cautious of the game.

And theres Breakthrough

And then the Tarkov Extraction shooter mode.

[hasty marsh]

ok so when Im in the game it says "capture" not "king of the kill"

[forest siren]

Huh.

[hasty marsh]

so the patchnotes were just wrong?

[junior torrent]

Anything "unique" for that game

[forest siren]

Maybe a mistranslation

Anything unique? Probably not at the moment. The only "Unique" thing its apparently coming with is the Black Hawk Down campaign itll have.

[junior torrent]

Kek

[hasty marsh]

So they call Conquest "king of the hill"

[forest siren]

Otherwise its straight up a Mobile Game companies first AAA esque shooter lmao

[junior torrent]

If the campaign isn't in a style of classic battlefront story

[forest siren]

I imagine it'd be like MW1's chopper down mission of sorts.

Unless its straight up a recreation of BHOD.

BHD*

[junior torrent]

Meh

[hasty marsh]

vehicles dont feel bad in DFHO tbh. Hopped in an APC and it felt smooth

[forest siren]

What about balance wise? I know the uh.. Coach looking fella essentially has infinite RPG ammo like Lis does with TGMs.

[tight rain]

Enlisted is free and it’s still not worth the price

Guess it’s better than some games I’ve played though

[hasty marsh]

even in conquest the maps still feel kinda boring, like BFVs maps almost

[hasty marsh]

not bad. He does have limited rocket ammo, his recharging gadget is a mine of some kind

its essentially 2042's class system but with actual weapon limits

also some interesting ideas. The assault class has no unique weapons whatsoever to make up for the slide and anti-infantry gadgets.

[tight rain]

Tell me, does the not falck have the ability to equip an ammo crate?

[hasty marsh]

yeah, its like support in 2042

[tight rain]

We are so fucking back?!?!

[hasty marsh]

each hero has 2 abilities and a grenade. then they can pick a class based gadget and weapon

[tight rain]

Tell me nutter butter, what guns can support use?

[hasty marsh]

ARs and Shotguns (all classes have these) and smgs.

[tight rain]

Oh yeah bud I like that

[hasty marsh]

ima check if theres anything else. Cause some weapons are class specific but dont have their own category like the g3

OK, so the assault does have unique weapons, he seems to have some exclusive ARs. The support class also has more smgs to pick from than recon.

[tight rain]

Interesting lol system

Kinda reminds me of hardline

[hasty marsh]

Ok the more I look into it the more confused I become about who can use what and why.
I suspect that weapons are divvied out based on playstyle rather than weapon class specifically. These look like deliberate choices

[tight rain]

That’s an interesting choice on their end

[hasty marsh]

personally I wouldnt mind that for BF, it would give the devs more freedom for what weapons they make. You could have a weapon be on paper stronger than another in its type, but exclusive to a different class

so long as its clear to player why each weapon is in its class, maybe via subcategories

[forest siren]

Also unless said already, Aussie falk can turn smoke nades into Smoke Heals by shooting them with his gun.

Turns the smoke green and it heals basically

[hasty marsh]

I didnt know this, does this work on the smoke drones?

if so thats absurdly strong

[forest siren]

I'm unsure

[jolly finch]

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing 2000+ ping in bf1 regardless of what server i am in?

My internet is fine and i have tested my latency with several other tools and it is 30 - 40 ms

i can send an example image of how bad it gets

i also get frequent disconnects from ea servers when trying to join games

it is making the game unplayable and driving me insane because i just cannot figure out what could possibly be causing it. I desperately need help

[solid hinge]

To join a server you use quick match or server browser? If you use server browser you can see ping before joining. Or maybe it's a vpn

[jolly finch]

I use server browser and select for servers that say >40ms

and i do not have a vpn

:(

[solid hinge]

Weird, never experienced it. I found other people online with the same problem as you but they are without solutions and very old posts

Try to use your phone router

[jolly finch]

i also tried verifying the integrity of my game files, but that didnt come up with anything

[jolly finch]

my phone router?

[solid hinge]

I mean Hotspot

[jolly finch]

Hm

i think that would devour my phone data

[solid hinge]

Just to see if the problem is the game or something else

[jolly finch]

I suppose its worth a shot

[solid hinge]

I play with hotspot, online games devour 10-17gb every month, maybe less because sometimes I download files with it

I used 35gb on Instagram

[jolly finch]

I will try getting into a game and seeing if i have the same problems

i'll get back to you

[solid hinge]

Alright, but I need to sleep, I have to work tomorrow. Goodnight

[jolly finch]

if it is my internet, i have no idea what to do though, because i dont have these problems in any other game

alright, goodnight

[dusk raptor]

There should be a battlefield marketplace like the r6 marketplace so we can trade and buy skins that we and others missed out on

[junior torrent]

you're out of your damn mind

[dusk raptor]

How

I want cool skins I missed

There’s literally no way to get previous skins from previous seasons or events

Can’t even get the Isaac Clarke skin

[junior torrent]

blame them for doing this practice

its terrible

[dusk raptor]

Yeah I am they are gay as shit for it

But they can still fix it

[junior torrent]

they better restore all missing stuff when the game is gonna die

[dusk raptor]

By having people have the ability to earn battle coins each match

And trading it for skins etc

That’s another autistic thing

Why the hell can’t I get battlecoins from playing the damn game, I shouldn’t have to pay real money for it that’s literal robbery and pay to win

And yes pay to win because some of the challenges for guns and vehicles are nearly impossible mules you play 24-7 so u might as well buy the elite edition etc

Unless not mules*

[junior torrent]

why dont you discuss this in the channel

[dusk raptor]

What channel?

[junior torrent]

#battlefield-2042

dude

[dense bone]

Nothing wrong with limited skins.

[halcyon sundial]

skin vanity lol

i just play the game. modern fps games look so silly with all the skin nonsense.

[dense bone]

I don’t care what my skin or what other skins look like when the point is to shoot other people in the face.

I’ll buy skins as a reward for making a game I want to play and if a skin is cool.

[vale grail]

Here's to that!

[solid hinge]

Feels a lot "stiffer" than the infantry variant

I can barely hit shots with it 💀

[shadow valve]

yo guys i need someone to help me with frontline achievment on bf5 text me if you wanna to help me do it

[frigid veldt]

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[fathom pebble]

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[tawdry burrow]

I'm trying to unlock the model 900 but whitch one is better? The factory or slug

[hasty marsh]

factory. Slugs are finnicky and the double shot firing mode means buckshot will shred someone

I want that man turned into red confetti

[tawdry burrow]

Alright
I already am halfway to getting factory anyway

[molten totem]

I want to ask. I want to play battlefield 2042 on xbox game pass ultimate, but after opening EA, it shows that it is currently unavailable. How to solve it?

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[upper berry]

EA play will be available in your library like Ubisoft + is

O on pc… ummm 🤔 I forgot how that works again… you may need EA play app

[dusk raptor]

The skins I want are tactical realistic skins that match the era that the game takes place in

[junior torrent]

Some ass executives of publisher be like: yeah. Nah, we don't do that here

[dusk raptor]

Lmfao

[junior torrent]

Ain't that the dark truth

[dense bone]

arent those skins there and commonly the standard skins too?

[dusk raptor]

Only a few, most of them are from past seasons or events, for example the death skin for Casper which is one of the coolest imo

[rare palm]

anyone else having this problem where they can't connect to the battlefield 1 servers? tried everything, from restarting game and computer, to reinstalling the game and even playing it on another account. "you have lost connection to the ea servers, online features will be unavailable." repairing the game also doesn't work, I've exhausted every single option

note that this also does not happen with games through ea launcher like titanfall 2 for example

[teal fractal]

those tools dont connect to ea servers but servers nearest to you

[teal fractal]

allowed on firewall?

[livid bay]

Yes but they are the exception. Also, I’d say having any unrealistic skins ruins the experience for a lot of people. (Even if it doesn’t ruin yours since you’ve stated that you don’t care as long as you can shoot people)

[teal fractal]

well they are very out done by 10a

but if i were to pick between the 2 then slug

[dense bone]

I’d argue people having realistic expectations from bf are wrong in the first place, not to mention how unreasonable it is for skins to ruin someone’s experience.

[rare palm]

yea, everything

[teal fractal]

strange

reinstalled eaapp?

and its allowed on firewall too?

[rare palm]

gonna try this

[rare palm]

didn't work

and yes it's allowed on firewall

[teal fractal]

strange

has it worked before?

Solution!
I just spoke with an EA Advisor about this issue and we were able to fix it by allowing the BF1 and Origin apps through Controlled folder access in the Windows Security Ransomware protection. If you go to Windows Security > Ransomware Protection > allow an app through Controlled folder access, and then add origin.exe, bf1.exe, and bf1Trial.exe, the issue should be fixed.

try that

[spring pond]

Who plays BFV over other BFs?

[crystal yoke]

I did bro I played 2042

And battlefield 1

[halcyon sundial]

yea this is fr. instead of cartoon neon crap, like a kid with a crayon got a hold on the art department.

[halcyon sundial]

people having realistic expectations from bf are wrong? well that is one of the opinions of all-time.

[dense bone]

yep, no clue how that statement is ever controversial, bf is like.. 10% more realistic than cod at best

[halcyon sundial]

immersion is a thing. it is why people heavily rejected decisions made on BFV.

[dense bone]

its still a casual boots to the ground, large scale, sandbox, combined arms fps

[dense bone]

immersion =/= realistic

theres definitely overlap, but its not like you have to be realistic to be immersive

[halcyon sundial]

yes but seeing someone walk around in a WW1 or WW2 setting with something not of that era is immersion breaking. it is out of place.

perhaps the artists could be more creative within the era but then again we have to think of who skins service, it is ritalin and energy drink abusing wannabe pro sweats or the most casual of player who leaves the playerbase quickly after launch.

[dense bone]

take bf1 for example, behemoths, headshooting someone on a horse and doing fuck all, elites, etc.. these are all examples of completely unrealistic things, but bf1 immersion is fucking goated for other reasons

[halcyon sundial]

it is not an unreasonable expectation for era specific kit. history buffs will appreciate it, especially if you explain the history or the use case in the conflicts in the menus.

[dense bone]

first line is weird considering what you just said about bfv, because there wasnt a lot in bfv that wasnt "of that era" to some real world capacity..

to adress the 2nd line, you NEED those people you are looking down on to fund the game to further its live service.. these live services with maps and weapons that are now free used to cost 15 bucks for 4 maps.

[dense bone]

id also argue the history buff perspective for a casual blockbuster fps is another weird take..

[halcyon sundial]

do you forget the issues people had with BF1 and BFV? there were some diversity choices that were ahistorical

[dense bone]

o trust me, ive had these conversations at length and its just nauseating at this point

[halcyon sundial]

no because i think that a talented art department who does its research can offer compelling era specific skins that will entice users to purchase. it would just take effort.

[dense bone]

what do you want devs to do? only allow you to select women in a certain faction and at a certain ratio? no, again, its a casual blockbuster title, so complaining about women in the game in the first place is borderline ignorant misinterpretation of what the product is

[halcyon sundial]

there is so much research they can tap into for inspiration.

[dense bone]

those dont sell.. simple as that.. likely the reason the bf after bfv went away from any real world settings/events so they didnt have these random neckbeards complaining about historical accuracy or immersion

[halcyon sundial]

you can have opinions so can i? do you notice how i never say you are "wrong" or "ignorant"? it is intentional because in good faith i can see why you hold your position, however i hold another equally viable decision that many people agree with. that agreement with that position is not based on going against you just for contrarian sake or because we value being ignorant.

[halcyon sundial]

random neckbeards.... strawman.

see

notice how i dont need to do that behavior

[dense bone]

theres opinions and then theres just completely missing the point.. you dont go up to pablo picasso art and complain about how its not realistic enough

[halcyon sundial]

i will not continue this now. you are bad faith and nothing will come from this. good day.

[halcyon sundial]

[dense bone]

legitimately though, do you think YOUR interpretation of what bf SHOULD be is more important than what BF ACTUALLY is?

[halcyon sundial]

[uneven hollow]

Wouldn’t say bf is realistic

Then again immersion is also a stretch since how people play

Bf is indeed more of a sandbox than that of hell let loose since there’s more freedom in bf

[dense bone]

id even argue the "immersion" for bf has more to do with its unrealistic aspects as well

[tight rain]

I’d say bf is so immersive and realistic I actually got ptsd

[livid bay]

I unironically would rather have premium dlc rather than all this live service bs

[halcyon sundial]

this

[dense bone]

and why is that?

were you actually paying for dlc out of your own pocket before too?

[tight rain]

Me too but thats only because i hate poor “people”

[halcyon sundial]

dlc quality > live service quality

[dense bone]

did you experience split lobbies, not being able to play with friends because they didnt have the dlc, or how about ACTUAL p2w situations with a new weapon being behind a dlc?

[dense bone]

i hear this take and i know for a fact there were a lot of shit maps behind dlc

of course i dont have the data to show dlc maps were better quality on average than live service, but at the same time im not actually making a claim, and i doubt anyone making this claim has that data either

id argue the only aspect of dlc that was objectively better was the frequency which content came, and considering they were paid for.. no shit?

[halcyon sundial]

a lot of this stuff is subjective opinion man.

you see it across gaming, live service just becomes endless stream of pointless content or wafer thin offerings.

premium dlc to be successful had to make sure it offered that value for money.

[dense bone]

when it comes to quality of maps there could be a sort of truth, just would have to actually try to genuinely get that data from reliable sources

[merry walrus]

Dlc is a terrible idea imo. I remember all these times when there were so many nice maps with 0 players, but these premium giveaways literally revitalized these maps

[dense bone]

people really have rise tinted glasses when it comes to dlc because they just want to complain about gaming now

which is ironic considering the amount of people that talk about BP being this thing that forces you to play the game when DLC was much worse on that front

i also doubt many were actually paying for dlc with their own money, because i barely was for only a couple years and im pretty damn sure im older than 99.99999% of people in these discussions

[halcyon sundial]

i paid with my own money. i also bought my friends dlc if they were skint on cash.

[dense bone]

so youd rather pay an equivalent of 45 dollars on dlc for the amount of dlc we got for free in bfv (disregard quality for simplicity sake)

[halcyon sundial]

why do you need to create strawmans? lmao

it is like if i said non-dlc buyers were all poor

i dont say it because it is ridiculous

[dense bone]

i dont think you know what a strawman is..

just because YOU personally didnt fall under my explained circumstance doesnt mean it didnt happen and suddenly make it a strawman..

[halcyon sundial]

"i also doubt many were actually paying for dlc with their own money, because i barely was for only a couple years and im pretty damn sure im older than 99.99999% of people in these discussions"

we all got dlcs with mommy and daddys money. we are all young.

it is ridiculous.

[dense bone]

the words "many" doesnt suggest all..

reading is hard

[halcyon sundial]

99.999999%

[dense bone]

that is used for age...

[halcyon sundial]

do you have hard data on this from an objective source?

[dense bone]

youre mixing numbers and use cases

again, reading is hard

[halcyon sundial]

hard data for your claim please

[livid bay]

I could say the same thing to you. From what you’ve said in the past, you think battlefield is essentially a slightly more realistic cod with bigger maps and vehicles. It’s not. There’s a reason the battlefield-like mode cod did a while back failed terribly. People are fighting against the 2042 version of battlefield, live service and all, because it doesn’t feel like Battlefield at all.

Btw, Is there something wrong with liking how a game used to be after they change how it: looks, feels, immerses you, etc?

[dense bone]

i strongly believe you are just saying this to troll a bit because if youre genuinely asking then wow.. good luck

[halcyon sundial]

"Btw, Is there something wrong with liking how a game used to be after they change how it: looks, feels, immerses you, etc?"

yes because that would be the wrong opinion and not the right opinion to hold.

[livid bay]

Oh, btw, I don’t fully hate live service. In concept it’s a great thing. However, modern gaming has made it terrible

[merry walrus]

Guys it’s not about the money and who bought it cmon. It’s about gaming experience and ability of devs to earn money without ruining it (or even making it better). I personally don’t like all these skins and other cosmetic stuff, but I do believe service with cosmetics is the best way. Just because it doesn’t affect gameplay. If cosmetics are fine (not these cats and dogs from cod) why not?

[halcyon sundial]

lmao.... i was just asking for data on the claim dude. you made an objective claim. you were asking for data from me on subjective opinion based matters earlier lol.

[dense bone]

because the cod bf mode had couldnt have failed for OTHER reasons like shit maps, shoehorning their 6v6 mode into a bigger player count, balancing, lack of combined armed warfare matching bf, etc

[dense bone]

its a personal experience claim, and considering i only know 5 people older than me, and given the average age for gamers online, its a pretty safe guess to say im older than a vast majority of them

[merry walrus]

Yeah I remember Gaben calling it a future of gaming like 15 years ago. And look now they have cs, dota tf2 where cosmetics have no impact on gameplay, devs earn a lot of money and even community can earn money by developing and voting for skins they like. It seems just perfect

[halcyon sundial]

anecdote

[dense bone]

yes, personal experience claims are inherently anecdotal, glad you can see that...

(which just doubles back to how i figured you werent ACTUALLY asking)

[halcyon sundial]

yea and i point blank reject it lol

[dense bone]

cool, you can do that, doesnt mean anything

[halcyon sundial]

i was actually asking lol

[dense bone]

you were.. yikes

are you going to be one of those people that will just constantly look to pick apart what i say because we had one disagreement that you cant handle and now in your mind there are battle lines drawn?

[halcyon sundial]

you are bad faith like i said earlier. anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and ignorant.

you are the enlightned one. everyone must bow to you lol

[dense bone]

i only say that on topics i believe are applicable

see the pablo comparison before

[halcyon sundial]

you are the main character

they make bf just for you and only you

[dense bone]

werent you just on about strawmans (even though that wasnt even applicable before)

[halcyon sundial]

omg how ignorant of me to even question that

[dense bone]

if THIS is the kind of conversation that makes you retort to this low level of communication then good luck in life

[halcyon sundial]

lol

i love people like you. i probably know every opinion you hold on just about any topic lol. anyways life moves on. opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.

[dense bone]

werent you also just talking about maturity? imagine throwing a fit because if a disagreement

(about a casual videogame nonetheless)

[halcyon sundial]

throwing a fit? lmao what?

[livid bay]

Yeah, that's fair.

However, think about it. Would there be so many people who say "I will never buy another DICE game" or "I will never buy another Battlefield" or "I hate what EA and DICE are doing to BF" if the newer titles were true to what the fans have come to expect from Battlefield? It doesn't matter if everything they change is "better" than the old stuff if the old stuff made up part of the identity of the franchise and was what the fans came to expect.

[halcyon sundial]

i am calm. are you ok there buddy?

[dense bone]

"you are the enlightned one. everyone must bow to you lol"
"you are the main character
they make bf just for you and only you"
"omg how ignorant of me to even question that"

totally not throwing a fit

[halcyon sundial]

that is one of the assumptions of all time lol

[halcyon sundial]

identity is a good way of putting it

[merry walrus]

It’s true but there is another side of this medal. How many new fans would not join this community? Do you remember bf3? It brought so many new players and I bet it was a first bf of a majority of people here. Wasn’t it just because it was different? A little bit more Hollywood style epic cod modern warfare influenced thing?

[dense bone]

so many people say that but bf still gets being made, so its at least breaking even, which assuming costs of dev/marketting is still around 100-150m for AAA titles means bf is still selling millions.. likely because its a casual blockbuster fps title that will always sell millions to casuals

on the topic of identity, the problem with bf titles is that each one (besides bf3/4 and bc1/2) is somehow pretty different than the other. so what people have come to expect from a bf title LARGELY comes down to what bf title they played first.

[merry walrus]

Wasn’t bf1 something completely different also? It truly was

[dense bone]

id argue thats a problem on the devs part for not keeping a consistent identity for their titles, but at the same time, they ARE consistently inconsistent

[halcyon sundial]

the devs and artists are not to blame. you have to talk about the suits running EA

the suits are ruining gaming

[dense bone]

eh, several devs other the years have come out to say EA arent nearly as hands on that the public thinks

hell.. EA didnt even know about apex till it was basically done

ME3 devs said that game failed because of their own ambitions

[halcyon sundial]

but what we are talking about here is different business models impact on gaming. suits decide live service components and dlc makeup

[dense bone]

... im not sure your correlation because what i think im reading is just.. a weird connection

are you saying that EA saying "make a live service game" makes the rest of the game lose its identity?

[halcyon sundial]

some of the agenda pushing in BF1 and BFV is a result of EA ESG obligations

[dense bone]

what agenda pushing in bf1?

[livid bay]

Yeah, I'd agree on that. All of the Battlefield titles are pretty consistently inconsistent. However, they all have roughly the same immersion level (some are more immersive) and all roughly feel like a Battlefield game in terms of how you control your character. The only game that didn't at least roughly feel like a BF game was 2042. Though, I do admit that a lot of the hatred is from the start of it; which was so abysmal it didn't even have a scoreboard

[halcyon sundial]

hardline didnt feel like a bf game too

[forest siren]

By the way if you say women: Not the most knowledgable history buff here but Russians did have Women snipers so technically Women did participate in WW1 and 2.

They even had bomber squadrons of women called the Night Sisters. If I recall.

[merry walrus]

By the way from what I know they are hiring veterans and other specialists just like they did in bf3, they are hiring destruction experts now etc. And also Zamplella in now working on bf (same guy who created medal of honor for pc, cod 1, cod 2, cod mw and titanfall). Literally father of the genre is working now. I want to believe next bf will be great.

[halcyon sundial]

hopefully it is good

[livid bay]

Hopefully. Though, don't preorder

[dense bone]

ill never subscribe to the thought that a handful of people are able to influence something as massive as dice..

[halcyon sundial]

well include them in a campaign stop or on russian side. no issue. it is the rest of it that was a push.

[livid bay]

Pretty much every company is run by a handful of people (the board of directors. Not a conspiracy theory)? That's just how business works

[halcyon sundial]

what is the answer to 99 out of 100 questions? money.

[dense bone]

im saying that the people that think "X dev and Y director joined Z team so the next game is going to be drastically different" are.. misguided?

[halcyon sundial]

so the scumbag that is EA CEO Andrew Wilson has had no impact whatsoever?

[livid bay]

Eh, the dev part is definitely misguided but the director is literally there to direct where the game's going to go

[crystal yoke]

I am not against woman at all but it's funny that the country in which women fought isn't in the game we dont have Russian faction in ww2 game battlefield 5

[dense bone]

we are talking about teams of hundreds if not thousands, and several million factors to how a game turns out.. and thinking a handful of cogs changing is going to be a huge change is just weird

[halcyon sundial]

wait are you Andrew Wilson?

are you on an alt?

[dense bone]

in the realm of something like a online fps game i dont personally see it
now maybe a story driven game or something like that sure

[livid bay]

I still find it weird that they didn't include Russia in a ww2 game

[crystal yoke]

Dumbest decision ever

[dense bone]

its basically a skin

[merry walrus]

Yeah they had hundreds of thousands in the army, about 40% of medical personnel were women, pilots, snipers, even tank commanders etc. They did a great job showing woman’s battalions in bf1, it was a real thing.
Unfortunately they don’t do that frequently to show true women on the war, cuz they really deserve it. They just slap a woman skin to wehrmacht (where it was not a thing) and call it done. So players are pissed and adding women to the game actually does nothing except negative emotions of some players. It’s a pity

[crystal yoke]

But it is what it is

[halcyon sundial]

was a bit goofy

[crystal yoke]

It annoys me because I love Russia

[halcyon sundial]

yea if they place it in the right spots it works good and is interesting

[halcyon sundial]

do you love current Russia?

[dense bone]

https://tenor.com/view/new-girl-zooey-deschanel-uncomfortable-awkard-what-is-going-on-gif-5250300

[merry walrus]

Yeah it can work just fine. Even if they want to push some agenda or whatever they are criticized for, they can do it right so everybody really likes it, so it looks naturally and believable idk

[crystal yoke]

I love it yes

[halcyon sundial]

as long as it is historical and accurate as possible i am all for it.

[dense bone]

lets keep it in perspective thats its a casual blockbuster online mp game.. its not like they should make factions and keep only 40% of the selectable characters on that team for women...

[crystal yoke]

But if you asking I support Putin's action
Nope I want ukraine to win this current war because in this war Ukraine is right not putin.
I love Russian weaponry, cities and weather not how putin works

[forest siren]

Yeah especially since a majority of people don't even know how much impact women had in the wars. It wasnt 100% men 100% of the time. And people are ignorant to the fact and hate on anything that changes the "Norm"

Its why i'm surprised Medal of Honor got away with it back in the PS1 days.

[halcyon sundial]

plus my bias is that only men should fight on the frontlines. it is our natural role. so i guess that plays into my position.

however if they were to do a campaign stop where you fight as or with a women in a complete accurate historical scenario i have no aversion to it.

[dense bone]

but its a casual videogame, not a documentary or history book

[halcyon sundial]

i mean look at the defense of Berlin end of WW2 they even had kids take up arms in desperation.

[livid bay]

Y'know, you always pull out the "it's a casual shooter" card whenever someone mentions wanting any type of slightly advanced immersion. Just because someone wants a little bit of immersion doesn't meant that they want every aspect of the game to be 100% realistic

[forest siren]

Where as i'm on the opinion that so long as theres guns: Anyone can participate in war.

I dont like gender norms at all lmao

[dense bone]

i think people lose sight of what the product ACTUALLY is compared to what they want it to be

this is where i come in with peoples expectations being wrong, because bf just isnt the franchise for these things

not saying you cant want these, youll just have to look elsewhere

[halcyon sundial]

campaign i am talking about. video game can take liberties due to medium however remain close on point to actual happenings it is all good.

[dense bone]

(see the pablo picasso comparison earlier where saying his art isnt realistic enough is just weird..)

[merry walrus]

No of course not. I think it should be as Aristotle described it “probable impossibilities rather than improbable possibilities”. What I mean it shouldn’t be that accurate but just believable. There were some soviet women right? So you can add them, it’s fine. It could happen so it looks pretty ok.
They did it in bf1 with weapons. Was a tommy gun at war? No, it wasn’t it is not realistic. But it was developed a few days after the war so it looks pretty ok in the game. Some kind of m4 or ak47 on other game would be a terrible idea

[halcyon sundial]

it was a bad point then and still is now

[dense bone]

id genuinely ask why you think that but youve stooped to meme levels of communications for a while so i dont expect an actual response

[halcyon sundial]

like nobody here is asking for painstaking realism but just bare minimum immersion

like what we used to get

liberties have to be taken due to it being a video game. especially mp, people do all sorts of unrealistic stuff in mp in regards to the fighting. however the art side you can nail bang on pretty good.

[livid bay]

I think you describe it too basically. Using your simplistic view, BF4 should have never had it's factions speak in their native tongue because it's just a shooter game; there's no need to put in that much detail. Using that simplistic of a view, period-accurate guns don't matter because it's just a casual shooter game. So many cool and immersive things don't matter if you just look at it as a "casual shooter" and nothing else

[halcyon sundial]

of course like core BF features like the classes.... you know like standing near a medic box and it just healing you or a ammo box resupplying you. like that is an acceptable liberty.

[dense bone]

I’m saying these are added bonuses to one aspect of the game, thinking they are necessary is just weird

[dense bone]

I’d say the liberties taken in bfv were fair all things considered

[halcyon sundial]

so if the chinese spoke dutch and the americans spoke arabic you would have no issue?

[dense bone]

Personally no. And the target demographic/majority of people purchasing don’t care either

Circling back to the casual blockbuster fps

[halcyon sundial]

lmao yea i gtg anyways. been fun. much love.

ridiculous scenes

[dense bone]

The game sells some 7million copies no matter the immersion.

[livid bay]

You can't exactly base how good a game is based on copies sold. MW3 sold 6.5M copies and it was a $70 DLC

[dense bone]

Topic has never been about quality

[forest siren]

Battlefield 1 was a genuine treat. Gameplay can be a bit iffy here and there but its such a beautiful game. Gets the feeling of WW1 right while still being fun

[merry walrus]

Well it’s a military shooter game with real world setting so it’s pretty predictable that players would expect some attention to details when it comes to weapons, vehicles and uniform. Bf1 attracted attention of many people who just love this period in history, they loved the game for its details. Would they like it so much if there was a t34 with abrams there? No

[crystal yoke]

Bro it's cod it always sell

[forest siren]

CoD is like FIFA for manchildren tbh

[livid bay]

Pre-orders also mess with the numbers a bit since people buy games before they even see gameplay nowadays (for some reason)

[dense bone]

Yes some players will want this, but again that’s just not what the product actually is. I’ve been saying this several times now and that’s what the Pablo Picasso comparison comes from

[forest siren]

Not saying everyone who plays CoD is a manchild. But god the number is up there.

[crystal yoke]

I love bf1 ngl

[merry walrus]

Look. You don’t care, someone does. What does it mean? More attention to details won’t change a game for you but it will make a game better for some other people. What does it mean? The game will be better in general. Sounds logical?

[livid bay]

If it's about money then that argument represents everything that is wrong with Modern Gaming.

It's no longer about making a good game like it used to be. It's only about making as much profit as possible. Even if it screws over the fans or ruins franchises

[dense bone]

It’s not about what I care about. It’s about what the product is, and that’s a slightly more realistic cod. So these situations where people want bf to do much more than what cod does in terms of making factions and having authentic this and that just doesn’t make sense.

I’d argue bf generally does slightly more for its immersion than cod already and that’s a fair place for it to be.

[merry walrus]

You see it as a slightly more realistic cod and that’s the reason why you bought it. Someone else sees it as a sandbox with funny explosions and devices, someone sees it as an immersive battlefield (no pun intended). Your “what product is” is still subjective and your priorities are not same as mine for example, the reasons why we bought the same game are different

[crystal yoke]

Man I like the way you bring points

[forest siren]

I wouldnt call CoD a Sandbox even if you can "Technically" do whatever you want with its tools. The issue is that its still mostly confined to being an Arena Shooter (which I hate calling it that because Arena Shooters to me are things like Quake and UT.)

[merry walrus]

When it comes to attention to details in weapons, uniform, vehicles etc well a lot of people want it and it won’t make a game worse for someone who doesn’t care right? So why not?

[forest siren]

Battlefield does a better job at being a proper sandbox however

[crystal yoke]

That's actually true that not everyone buying the game has same priorities
Some care more about immersion and details
Some care more about gameplay

[forest siren]

I mean technically alot of people still dont really care. You got veterans who want "Muh US-MA and muh Russia" to mimic real life armies.

But you got people like me who doesnt give a shit and wants more Pan-Asian Coalition and Euro Union type shit.

[livid bay]

I'd agree to a point. However, BF's immersion is nothing like Cod's immersion. In Cod, you are either running around on a small map with 0 immersion or playing a campaign as a borderline super soldier with story immersion. In most BFs, you are immersed in a Battlefield. You are supposed to feel like a random nameless soldier in an actual Battlefield. Comparing them is always gonna give weird results. That's why it's best to look back at a franchise's history and base the immersion on that instead of basing it on a franchise that is only connected to BF by the "shooter" tag

[merry walrus]

Yeah and the reason why we buy the game is cuz it’s a fair compromise right? I see pros and I see cons of the game, so when pros are heavier I buy it. That’s why I don’t understand this weapons/history/etc problem. It will make a game better for thousands of players and won’t make it worse at all for any player who doesn’t care. Would a proper pair of boots of a ww1 soldier ruin the game? Not at all. So why not?

[forest siren]

It ruined my immersion because i didnt get trench foot

[crystal yoke]

That was the point you don't care doesn't mean others don't

[forest siren]

But the issue is: How many people care? Is it enough to out weigh the ones that do?

Does it afford DICE more money to cater to the people who care?

Alot of people play Battlefield for the mindless dumb fun you can get into. Regardless of the game.

The people not buying Battlefield because "Oh my German Soldier can be Black or a Red Headed Woman? Nah. Nah I aint buying that" might be a genuine minority.

[merry walrus]

Well someone cares someone doesn’t. If I eat only margherita pizza and you don’t care at all, won’t a margherita pizza be a good choice to order since 100% of people will be satisfied?

[crystal yoke]

That I understand

[livid bay]

That's just the dumb yet vocal minority

[forest siren]

Personal preference, sure. But the game can be literally the same (BF3-BF4) but I prefer BF3 over 4 due to its maps.

Albeit Last Stand maps are peak. The rest besides Shanghai are shit.

[forest siren]

Yeah dumb indeed. Its like the people begging for cold war but suggesting 2142 type stuff gets me "Ew I hope DICE doesnt listen to you" like bro.

I can EASILY say the same shit about Cold War era stuff lmao

[livid bay]

I do agree that a Cold War era game would be cool but yeah, it's kinda weird to ask for a certain era then suggest stuff that fits in a completely different era

[forest siren]

Like dont get me wrong, if they make a Cold War era game I hope they go with all the whacky zanny prototype shit you'd expect from that Era.

But god.

I really hate the Cold War era. Its so boring to me

[crystal yoke]

I don't

It's a wild era

But Gulf War is nice

[forest siren]

If its done right i can see myself buying a Cold War era Battlefield over a modern one.

But if they release a new 2142 i'm not leaving it.

[merry walrus]

That’s why I hate dice for dropping bf5 so much obscure and funny stuff that could actually be in the game

[forest siren]

You wouldnt be able to pry me off the god damn game

[livid bay]

If they choose Cold War I hope they include some of the wilder guns like the insane looking prototypes that one Kalashnikov rival made (Found the name: Korobov)

[forest siren]

Like you'd still see stuff like the P90, XM8, AK47, M16, 1911 but itd be cool to see the Calico or the WA2000

Vehicle wise itd be crazy too

[merry walrus]

Gulf is just perfect for me. Everything is pretty modern but you still have some of these old steel wooden things you know? It’s like a collision of two eras

[crystal yoke]

There will be issues with map location variety

[forest siren]

Maybe they'll do another "What if" and make some fictional battles

Because Battlefield is kinda its own universe

[livid bay]

Oh look, Desert, Desert, Desert Town, Desert, Oasis, Desert, etc

[crystal yoke]

Desert 🏜🌵has its own beauty tho

[forest siren]

And then oh look, Caspian Border. Nosharr Canals and fucking Arica harbor again god theyd probably do it too

[merry walrus]

Well 90s were nasty. So some Eastern Europe, some desert etc still could be there

[livid bay]

Yeah. That's the same for Cold War too. They'd have to go in the direction of "What if the Cold War actually sparked a world war"

[livid bay]

Y'know what, throw in Golmud Railway too. Surely that'll go well

[forest siren]

Would be a neat way to tie in why Russia fucking hates America so much and invades them.

I think twice in the Battlefield universe lmao

NO DONT YOU SAY THOSE WORDS

CASPIAN SOMEHOW IS A BETTER MAP 😭

[merry walrus]

Isn’t new cod about gulf war? I think it should turn out interesting. But I’m still waiting for my modern bf from my favorite Zampella guy

[livid bay]

Honestly, I don't hate Golmud. Though, I am highly biased since it's basically the only map I can play on 4 besides for when the occasional premium server has enough players.

[forest siren]

And thats also the thing with the Cold War idea.

We've had COD Cold War and now BO6 coming out. I dont think DICE would make a Coldwar/Golfwar game? Unless BO6 fails miserably and here comes DICE stealing all the people if its a good game?

[livid bay]

Yeah, it'd be a good decision if BF was still a competitor to Cod but at this point it'd just be a detriment

[forest siren]

Golmud has the ability to be good (I like that artillery truck) but the issue is i'm a Infantry player.

That map is really bad for infantry

[merry walrus]

It will 99% be modern 2030 kind of setting. Best one for bf imo. All these drones and funny devices

[forest siren]

Honestly I wouldnt mind. If it is a 2030 game I hope it brings in the Modernized BAR.

[livid bay]

Golmud really plays 2 ways for me: Town and Construction

If you play in the Town area it can get fun as infantry. Helis are a bit annoying tho.

If you play in the Construction area, it generally sucks for infantry but can make for some good vehicle combat

I wouldn't mid 2030 either. I just hope they don't include a ton of the futuristic stuff from 2042

[forest siren]

In my experience its always: Go construction: Die to tank or a transport heli or twits with C4.

Go city: Die to tanks and helis because the entire city is levelled 😭

If anything they'll have the Rorsch Mk1 maybe.

[livid bay]

Huh. For me, the city's almost never leveled even at round end

[merry walrus]

And that’s the perfect kind of map for bf imo. Huge map but it consists of many cod style maps if I can call them so. You want some urban warfare? You go to point A, you want some vehicles in open fields? You go to point B. You want some close quarters in metro or offices? You go to point C etc

That’s how everybody can have fun and not be annoyed by snipers or helis or whatever

You choose whom and where to fight in what conditions simply by moving somewhere

[livid bay]

Siege of Shanghai is a very good example of that imo. The only thing that's really bad about it is the abundance of snipers

[forest siren]

On Xbox that shits levelled within 5 minutes or more

[livid bay]

Man, Xbox players must be ruthless

I play Playstation

[forest siren]

Hell the snipers arent that bad surprisingly but I guess that comes with how weird and janky the hitboxes for both player and terrain are

Oh yeah they're something else.

They're either exploiters or the most aggressive vehicle players. They all use hard meta.

[merry walrus]

Are there reasons why console players don’t play on same servers? I get it with pc mouse is a superior device and a lot of cheaters

[livid bay]

Most of my players are oldies hopping on after a 9-5

[merry walrus]

But why not ps+xbox

[livid bay]

Because it was before crossplay was a big thing

None of the companies wanted to work with each other

[merry walrus]

So in 2042 you can play with ps+xbox but without pc players?

[livid bay]

Maybe. I haven't looked too much into that. It's either you can turn off crossplay and it's only your console type or you can turn off crossplay and it's only your input type

[merry walrus]

I hope console players will be able to play together without pc. Double the online and no cheaters

Sounds perfect

[livid bay]

Huh. I just looked it up and the crossplay is kinda neat. Sadly it is only your console type. However, there's two "pools" for crossplay. The first is PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X/S for the new-gen pool. It supports 128 player matches. The second is PS4 and Xbox One. It only supports 64 players. When you turn crossplay on, you can only crossplay with others in your pool

@merry walrus

[forest siren]

Last Gen players need entirely different maps from new gen players. Not to mention the performance gap between new and old gen.

[halcyon sundial]

yuk old gen

[forest siren]

Yeah breakaway we get 5 points in total.

The oilrig. The weird base to the left and then one point at the Oil Things that explode.

We dont get the mountain.

Or the base at the mountain.
Or the fucking ice bases.

[merry walrus]

Oh thanks for your research. I hope they make these pc guys optional though. I’ve played on pc for my entire life since bf1942 and only when I’ve tried bf5 on ps5 recently I understood how nice gaming can really be. It’s just a different game without cheaters

[merry walrus]

According to rumors new bf won’t support ps4 at all. I hope so it’s time to move on

[halcyon sundial]

good. as old gen held 2042 back.

[livid bay]

Hopefully

[forest siren]

Yeah i hope they dont do old gen any longer. By the time the next battlefield comes out i should have a Series X.

I aint getting an S. Fuck that.

[halcyon sundial]

buy a pc

[forest siren]

Series X first, cheaper than what I plan on doing for a PC.

[merry walrus]

You better do. Gta6 is also next gen only

[forest siren]

I aint much for GTA so eh

Plus I like having the option for a console. Some games are only on Xbox (or just feel better)

[dense bone]

my main point is that the people buying for the immersive/realistic/historical priorities are just setting themselves up for failure because it is a casual blockbuster title. the game by that definition has no tangible reason to hold to some "standards" those gamers expect. hence how 2042 has almost none of those aspects of immersion, realism, or historical aspects and yet its still squarely a bf game

again, it has nothing to do with what i want out of the bf franchise, to further clarify, i have long said my BEST bf game would be bfv with bf1 atmosphere. and that includes the aspects i REALLY dont care about because its just added bonus

[halcyon sundial]

2042 is not a BF game tho lol

i mean in name only but there is so much departure

[dense bone]

it definitely is though, maybe not for YOUR priorities, but it still has what i would call the core factors of a BF game

in order of bf identify i will say its a mp fps > large scale > combined arms > class based > sandbox > warfare

imo without these you absolutely do not have a bf title, aspects beyond these priorities are more secondary and furthering to subjective wants

[uneven hollow]

Indeed love it hate 2042 is indeed battlefield

[dense bone]

hmm i might add destruction to the end of that order of bf priorities

[halcyon sundial]

you do realise that we are all talking subjectively here. it is all a matter of taste. the problem with this discussion is you have a myopic view on this subject.

like even if we agreed on a bf game we both liked. i mean name one, i adore BF1, BF3 and BFBC2. say we both thought they were the pinnacle of BF but someone came in here and disagreed then it is all good. people have got their tastes and things they are looking for in a BF game. 2042 doesn't do it for a lot of people especially those who have played this franchise since day dot. 2042 however also has it supporters and probably there are a lot of people on the fence about it.

you called folks who had an aversion to silly skins ignorant off the jump in this discussion.

that is why i cannot take you seriously. i can actually see where you are coming from. i have steel manned your position, others and mine. i settled on my take. it is subjective much like yours is. there is no objective marker here.

i mean do we put it down to sales, consumer metrics like metacritic..... idk.

i mean stream wise bf 2042 not doing well.

[dense bone]

Odd you say all that when you just said that 2042 isn’t a bf title. Then want to say you can’t take me serious in the same paragraph. Let alone youre saying you can’t take me serious when i call out that an mp fps game isn’t about dressing up so therefor ignorant, then directly say you actually see where im coming from. So many contradictions…

[halcyon sundial]

you are acting like a debate bro trying to "win" is the whole gist of this discussion here. there is not a contradiction. i can see where you are coming from on some points and of course you are entitled to your subjective taste on bf. where i cant take you seriously though as you dont extend the same courtesy to others as you call opinions or tastes that differ to yours wrong and ignorant.

it is really simple but anyways time to stop now as this just goes nowhere.

[dense bone]

dont care to "win' in general, let alone a discussion on discord with randoms that imo have weird priorities and have questionable reading comprehension to boot.. there are 100% contradictions, a low level one is the whole "i dont take you serious" while you just said 2042 isnt a bf game.. like talk about not taking someone serious... once again, its not about my subjective tastes on bf or priorities. ive never delved into that topic, others have suggested making it that as a sort of way to leave some of this open to interpretation.

[halcyon sundial]

[dense bone]

you know this is like the 3rd time youve said you were going to end the discussion.. yet youre typing again... how would anyone take you serious when you cant even listen to yourself and end when you say you are.

[halcyon sundial]

*Me: so if the chinese spoke dutch and the americans spoke arabic you would have no issue?

You: Personally no. And the target demographic/majority of people purchasing don’t care either*

just wanted to end on this one

[dense bone]

because i dont care what the pixels im shooting at look like or say.. and yet you say 2042 isnt even a bf title.. yea whatever "gotcha" you were trying to have with that one is pretty weak

[halcyon sundial]

[dense bone]

"youve stooped to meme levels of communications for a while"

[halcyon sundial]

time to play some battlefield

get in a chat with some lads at my iq level and shoot enemies

☮️

[vale grail]

BF2042 is like almond milk, neither are what they claim to be, one is a cod playerbase pandering shitshow and the other is nut water, literally.

[halcyon sundial]

lol nut water

i always love when someone refers to almond milk as nut water

coz it is true and almond "milk" is disgusting

[vale grail]

BF1 despite being heavily artisticly liscensed still respected the history it's derived from unlike BFV that's just 'cod but with battlefield title' along with it's horrid revisionist censorship of history

[vale grail]

Same textile sensation as BF2042

[halcyon sundial]

yea BF1 i agree

[vale grail]

Or that scene from Parks and Recreation where Ron Swanson throws out the vegan bacon.

[wise wharf]

I have a question

[vale grail]

lay it on us chief, what's cookin' on your noggin?

[halcyon sundial]

bruh lmao..... i dont know why vegans want things that aren't meat but look like it or mimic it texture wise. odd lol.

[wise wharf]

When I start tdm in battlefield 2042 my window showing error

Does anyone have solution 🤔

[vale grail]

Well I can tell you this, I want a battlefield game that plays like battlefield. This grass 'meat imitation' crap they're trying to serve us with diet overwatch I mean 2042 is gross and unappealing to mine own and many others' pallets.

[halcyon sundial]

great ways of putting what i was trying to say earlier

but just know you are apparently wrong and ignorant to even have that opinion

[vale grail]

I suggest uninstalling the game and playing something else, it was a barebones rush job that was never fixed because all developer manpower went to making seasonal microtransactions and lootboxes bait items rather than fixing the core issues of their game.

[vale grail]

If that's what defines me as 'wrong' then I guess the opinions of those that think such aren't all that important to begin with. I got 2042 as a free monthly and I still paid too much for it.

[halcyon sundial]

got it for free and still paid too much lmao.

tbh i feel that way too

[vale grail]

They took what could enver be refunded; my time.

[dense bone]

looks like 15 year olds at cafeteria trying to fit in

[halcyon sundial]

yea lifeclock cannot be refunded fr

[vale grail]

And worse still are the shills burning their money on the game's microtransactions stores because they're so conditioned to buy the lootboxes for the 'rare items' or seasonal skinpacks that're just money leeching addons that're there for monitary gain.

[halcyon sundial]

hey man it is fomo

they cant miss out lol

[vale grail]

Anyone who pays into that stuff is only encouraging these shite game design templates.

[wise wharf]

Then battlefield 2042 is like going to die??

[vale grail]

Someone fed through a woodchipper would be less 'DOA' than this horrid mistake of pixels and code in truth.

[halcyon sundial]

lmao

damn

[dense bone]

Unlikely because of cross play. Pizza just acts like 2042 took his pretend gf and called his mom ugly

[halcyon sundial]

i am convinced nyphon is ea ceo Andrew Wilson's secret alt account

[wise wharf]

It's so mischievous that they not worried about their game

[dense bone]

So original

[dense bone]

What have I even said positive about any bf game… literally hasn’t even been a topic?

[halcyon sundial]

but yea folks jump off 2042 and jump on BF1 or BFV

bf1 preferrably, get that pop up

[wise wharf]

they were going to make them online multiplayer??

[vale grail]

At LEAST BFV is someone playable before the developers were pulled from that ship to make 2042.

[dense bone]

You know… standard developer cycles of a game 2 years into its lifecycle…

[vale grail]

We were promised more content and gameplay fixes for both BFV AND Battlefront 2, but the developers were ripped from their unfinished work and made to work on 2042, yet ANOTHER rushjob that ended poorly.

[dense bone]

We were never promised more content… tf

[halcyon sundial]

bf1 is a multi michelin star burger. delish.

bfv is a banging mom and pop store burger. not too shabby, can hit alright.

bf2042 is a mcodnalds burger. trash, bad for you.

[vale grail]

Well, it feels like they see us as 'pigs that'll eat any slop in the trough' and sadly too many feed into supporting that mentality.

[dense bone]

I’ll never understand people just begging to be victims

[halcyon sundial]

huh?

⁉️

[dense bone]

I knew you wouldn’t get it

[vale grail]

Ignore him, all he does is harp on people that don't like 2042 or complain about BFV. Like hell, I don't care if anyone here likes those games but jeez does he kill conversations quicker than a beer fart.

[halcyon sundial]

well explain it coz it don't make any sense like many things you type Andrew

[dense bone]

Pizza also can’t read because I’ve never stopped people from not liking anything.

He just makes up bs like bfv being promised more content which never happened

[halcyon sundial]

it is ok i gots love for Andrew Wilson's alt.

[dense bone]

But somehow pointing that out is saying he can’t not like the game

[vale grail]

At any rate, 2042 could've been BF4 2.0 had DICE not pushed away their longterm developers by stifling creative freedom in BFV, but for whatever reason they doubled down on a business model proven not to work. The ghostlight of the potentiality of what could've been still pisses me off.

[halcyon sundial]

lmao they never finished the game lol

bfv was never fully realised

everyone knows this

[dense bone]

TLDR pizza salty I call out his bs and masks it as me saying he has to like video games

[vale grail]

This sums up BFV and 2042 perfectly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUgsamtwLIY

[dense bone]

Yes but they never promised X amount of content

[halcyon sundial]

I love you Andrew Wilson.

[dense bone]

People just assumed they were going to keep adding more ww2 content

[halcyon sundial]

yep in a nutshell that is bang on lol

[dense bone]

“Oh you made a game inspired by ww2? So that means you’re going to do all of ww2 and anything less in “unfinished””.

That logic is concerning

[vale grail]

Oh and here's a kicker, the Lego Skywalker Saga literally proves that Battlefront 2 was on the brink of a major update; the assets used to build the worlds in that game were quite literally ripped from BF2. There's comparison videos and everything, with a multitude of other prequel areas such as Mustafar that could've been added to the game but nope. DICE went and said; 'quit saving this workable mess, time to make an even bigger one!'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gdFXzV0q6U

Video to back this claim, it's not even subtle, the assets are 1:1.

Well, the completed ones at least.

[halcyon sundial]

ugh the revival of Battlefront has been such as mess lol

i just mod the hell out of the originals

[vale grail]

At least classic collection is stabilized now.

Mostly...

[halcyon sundial]

everything EA has out over the last while has just been declining. i mean look at the FIFA now the EA FC series, just money siphons of gullible whales now.

[vale grail]

It's like watching a critically acclaimed actor die from dementia.

[halcyon sundial]

oh and dont get me started on Madden lmao

[vale grail]

MoonBase Alpha; john madden

[halcyon sundial]

and all their esports scenes are just mudded because the games are a joke, they cannot be played as esports lol

[dense bone]

It’s getting into circle something territory…

[halcyon sundial]

nobody forcing you to be here. i am just talking to this high iq gentlemen here.

[dense bone]

https://tenor.com/view/yvie-oddly-rpdr-rupauls-drag-race-rpdr-season11-drag-queen-gif-15573429

[vale grail]

Likewise, people can disagree and still be respectful of each other. Pitty some amongst us are incapable of that.

[vale grail]

Jokes are funny, this franchise is just sad.

[halcyon sundial]

hey i tried

[vale grail]

Like, a flat diet soda.

[vale grail]

No, you're fine, you're the other high IQ gentleman.

[halcyon sundial]

bro fr actually coz i once loved a lot of these series.... it is sad

but a quick question how do you think bf2042 rates against cod mw3?

[vale grail]

It's funny how all the games that're in Portal mode lost online functionality, must've been due to people proving that games from the 2000's and 2010's are more polished and functional than 2042 with direct comparison videos.

[dense bone]

Old bf title servers only went down in 2 gen old systems…

[vale grail]

2042 has nothing of worth, but at least COD has a game that people like.

[dense bone]

Literally only shutting down for ps3 and 360…

reading is hard

[halcyon sundial]

so you think bf decline is sharper than cod decline?

[halcyon sundial]

plus what do you mean lost online functionality?

coz if they close old games it coz nobody playin em probably

[dense bone]

Bf3 servers are shutting down for ps3 and 360. Pizza either doesn’t know that or just acts like they are shutting down for everything.

[vale grail]

The servers for BF2042, 2043, Bad Company 1 and Bad Company 2 are all offline now. They're shut down.

[vale grail]

And not even close, I was getting 24/24 multiplayer matches on Bad company 2 months before the shutdown was even announced.

[halcyon sundial]

coz 360 shuttered the storefront

i know that

[dense bone]

They are shutting down for 2 gen old systems. This is what you’re just blindly siding with scuffed because “hur dur we both argued against you”

[vale grail]

Can still get perfectly functional online connections.

And the in-game stores still work for DLCs.

[halcyon sundial]

siding? lmao we are not at war Andrew

[vale grail]

All in all, battlefield's legacy getting dumped is a stupid idea.

[dense bone]

Shutting down servers for old games in old systems isn’t dumping on anythings legacy…

[halcyon sundial]

i think there is workarounds tho. project rome for bfbc2, i kno is one

you got Venice Unleashed for BF3 which even adds bots. that is pc tho.

[vale grail]

BF4 and HL on 7th gen makes sense because of the PS4 and XBOne versions still being active but the older titles like BF2, and the Bad Company series along with BF3 is stupid. It's going to discourage people from buying into the franchise. Hell, even CoD 2 from 2005 still has active multiplayer functionality same with CoD 3, 4, WaW, MW2 (2009), BO1, MW3 (2011) and BO2 as well along with Ghosts and Advance Warfare.

All on the 360/PS3 era

[halcyon sundial]

i am not sure of the populations of those old games so i cant talk to it but i think the reasoning they would give is low pop and moving on after many years of them being up.

[vale grail]

2042 was so bad all the older BF titles were seeing increased activity, guess they wanted to force people to go full 'out with the old, in with the new'.

[dense bone]

… how would old ass games not working on old systems discourage people from buying newer titles? Tf

[halcyon sundial]

i think in future devs needs to do something about the end of life of their games. people still want to play them.

[vale grail]

WaW sees at least 200 in zombies and about 150 in multiplayer, same with BO1.

[dense bone]

Agreed but there’s a reasonable line where you can stop support because everyone but 20 people moved on from 15+ year old games.

[halcyon sundial]

idk about this take. i think the people playing it on the old systems are just diehards of those games.

they are attached to their stats and time invested in the game

[vale grail]

I suggested a while back that DICE just does a legacy collection like the GTA trilogy but take all of the older Battlefield titles, port them over to modern consoles for a legacy game mode while having a more refurbished modernized gameplay mode for newer audiences so that way veteran players could enjoy the same experience while newer players could avoid getting donked on by people who've played since renting the games from BlockBuster.

[halcyon sundial]

and look in an ideal world it would be great to keep it up to be played. i want shit preserved fr especially goated games like bfbc2. coz i might want to jump on it if i get that nostalgia itch.

[vale grail]

To an extent that's true. But keep in mind that the reason why some still played like me, was simply because the mechanics and gameplay was better.

[dense bone]

Extremely questionable

[halcyon sundial]

yea i jumped on bfbc2 for a final sesh and man it was fun

[vale grail]

The last Battlefield game where you could destroy the entire enviroment and the mechanics overall were solid, only legitimate complaint was the helicopter spawncampers.

[vale grail]

Check DMs by the way, sent you a message.

[halcyon sundial]

i was so glad everyone wasn't doing that when i played. like everyone was generally just having fun.

they were enjoying the end and being courteous to others doing the same

[vale grail]

Not to me on 360, I was farming points to get classes ranked up quickly on a Rush map, and some level cap joined, and a few minutes later there was like 10 of them against me and they were all talking shit about me trying to 'cheapshot my way to the top' and ruined quite a bit of my fun in the final weeks.

[halcyon sundial]

rip

[vale grail]

I didn't have time organically and these nolife sweats were proper dicks about it.

Like shit man, being sweaty tryhards when it doesn't matter isn't cool.

[halcyon sundial]

yea you get people like that

[vale grail]

Good talk man, I'm going to get going, I'll catch you about.

[halcyon sundial]

yea no worries

[vale grail]

You call those asshats people? I call 'em jerks.

[forest siren]

Y'know for the talk of older games getting more attention, I find it humorous that Battlefield 4 on the xbox has less population than 1 and 5

I cant say much for 3, havent touched it and I dont get the DLCs or half the shit I owned

[teal fractal]

console battlefields are pretty dead tbh

I found it pretty crazy how low the pop is compared to pc

[halcyon sundial]

yea especially in OCE i bet console would be almost a ghost town

[pliant garden]

It is on xbox

Which is a pity

[rare palm]

WORKED! Thanks so much for your help!

[teal fractal]

Ah nice

Enjoy

[rare palm]

I lost hope but now I'm super happy, thanks again!

[empty verge]

Bruh are milsim’s still a thing in battlefield 🤔🤔

[upper berry]

Yes people still make milsim servers

[dense bone]

Still a thing though very very niche

[tawdry burrow]

Is the sjorgen slug good in battlefield 1? Or should I stick with model 900 factory?

[agile widget]

Need god squad. Infantry Breakthrough, Be cracked. NAE PM if interested

[tawdry burrow]

Also is the m1908 experimental similar to the trench carbine?

[vale grail]

Well given the generational disconnect with some being on PS3, 4 and V but PC having a more boradband access to everything at once, it's to be expected at a certain point. Despite the lower console numbers, BF1 is still going quite strong.

[dense bone]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[hybrid hawk]

should i get bf 5 if i played only bf 1? is it that much different is the single player campaign good?

[teal fractal]

Nah i know why

[vale grail]

what's your angle?

[dense bone]

from bf1 to bfv is a pretty big difference. bfv has like 1/4 the atmosphere bf1 has, but imo it really makes it up with the mechanics. movement is so smooth, theres so many ways to traverse the maps, gunplay feels really good, building and point call ins feel great. i didnt play sp for either title, but i know a couple of the missions in bfv people really like

[tight rain]

The last tiger is generally well liked

[vale grail]

it's the only part of the game that's actually somewhat accurate to history. if the rest of the game was like that campaign story then the complaints would be drastically diminished.

[solid hinge]

Never mind what I said last time

I'm in love, the mark v tank hunter Variant is the most fun tank in this goddamned game

[vale grail]

Especially when you use binoculars in real life to spot targets on the hillside.

[solid hinge]

It's super fun on wide ass maps like Sinai desert

Just shoot up anyone unfortunate enough to get spotted

Sucks dick when I get deleted by the 50 star tank hunter pilots though

[vale grail]

Sinai Desert sucks because no one ever kills the fucking planes

[solid hinge]

Yeah

And when you decide to pick a plane, suddenly everyone's on AA

Like what

[vale grail]

And worse still no one plays DLC rotations, all it takes is 20 people to start a server, and no one can be bothered to do that, they'd rather complaining about how inactive the game is rather than taking initiative. It's easy enough to do, just get some friends together, and wait in a pre-game lobby. I've gotten numerous hardcore rush, air assault, supply drop and shock operations servers going that way.

No one has the patience to wait for 20 minutes to start a server up, once that initial slog of starting a server's done with it's smooth sailing.

[tight rain]

Just a tip, you can actually get closer to your screen instead of using binoculars

[solid hinge]

Yeah fr, I love Passchendaele but there's barely any servers running that map and the ones that do got barely any players on it

[vale grail]

Are you on PSN?

[vale grail]

I've a 4k 50in flatscreen, I can actually see that far off with binoculars without losing fidelity

[solid hinge]

Naw, I'm on pc

[vale grail]

Damn, we could've squaded up

[solid hinge]

😭

[vale grail]

Well at least we're squadmates in spirit because BF1 was the last real battlefield game.

Whatever comes next better be on par with BF1 or Bad Company 2 or else the franchise is dead truly. I've a very slim sliver of hope because the guy who worked on TitanFall 2 is heading the next Battlefield's development

[solid hinge]

someone can help me? i cant do the medic designation cause it dont appears for me
on bfv

[agile widget]

LF cracked players. pubstomping. PM if interested. NAE

[dense bone]

!!lfg

[ruby trail]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
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[tight rain]

I cracked a bone in my arm before, does that make me a cracked player?

To be honest it was a little more than a crack, but a broken player doesn’t sound as cool

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Now that's one way to 2042 🤯😎
🎬 u/PrincessSativa85

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Aug 21, 2024, 10:06 PM

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[vale grail]

Could be worse, I've poison ivy all over both my legs and most of one of my arms

it's been rather painful overall

[tight rain]

Why’d you do that?

[vale grail]

I didn't do it on purpose. I was doing heavy yardwork and didn't realize that there was poison ivy about when tackling overgrowth.

[halcyon sundial]

cracked players tick. pub stomping tick. wanna go for the cringe trifecta?

[halcyon sundial]

rip damn

[wild vector]

guys i have question

why i always kick in server

[vale grail]

the answer is chair

[wild vector]

even though I didn't cheat

[halcyon sundial]

you dont even mention what game?

[wild vector]

battlefield 1

can u guys help me?

[halcyon sundial]

what is actually happening?

describe what is happening

....

[tight rain]

Do you have a terrible personality?

[wild vector]

yep im recovery my account after hack and i wanna play again i got kick always in server

yep real bro

[agile widget]

I hope your music goes big man. Just looking for good players

[halcyon sundial]

i am in OCE. how cracked are you?

[wild vector]

I don't understand what it means?

I never said anything harsh or anything like that

[halcyon sundial]

cracked? basically means like a really good and probably sweaty player.

like monster energy on deck, maybe a couple of ritalins

focused in

locked in

[wild vector]

I don't understand bro, but I just asked the EA agent, there is no problem with my account

[halcyon sundial]

yea idk how to help you

i am just a battlefield player

[agile widget]

lmfao

[solid hinge]

someone can help me? i cant do the medic designation cause it dont appears for me
on bfv

[solid hinge]

you need to join the discord of the server that you are banned in and ask for a ban appeal. Is it BONK or AMG, join their discord and ask them

[wild vector]

but not just 1 server all servers

[solid hinge]

even dice official server?

[wild vector]

I've sent the case and they responded to send the issue

[solid hinge]

try to use live chat if it doesn't work. Talk with someone EA assistance so you can describe what happened

[solid hinge]

Any bf1 players here?

[outer oasis]

I'm one. But I'm xbox

[solid hinge]

Same I just got the game

How do I unlock the weapon I get skins for from battlepacks

[outer oasis]

You go to the class with that weapon and go down to it and in the bottom right it should tell you what needs to be done to obtain it

And to use the booster I forgot

[solid hinge]

Want me to show u which skins I got and u can tell me which ones are worth getting?

[split marlin]

anybody play Rush these days

[radiant shoal]

i think its kinda dead

everyones focused on bf2042

im sure some still play

theyre either on bf1 or bf2042

depends

[halcyon sundial]

bfv still has population too

avoid bf4

[forest siren]

BF4 on the Xbox consists of 3 servers at any given time, everything else is less than 64 players and Rush is a shitty meme joke.

One is a "US Army/Veterans only" hardcore server, a 24/ Golmud server and a "North American" server with 100 ping and all the DLCs.

And I meant four because I forgot the 24/7 locker server with 3200 tickets that has more ximmers than a single 2042 match.

[vale grail]

the 24/7 servers killed BF4 for me as well on PSN. They suck balls and bootycheeks. It's not fun to play the same map over and over again. The few that aren't 24/7 are pay to win servers where if you donate to the owners you get to break all the rules. It's just not fun.

[junior torrent]

and on that note

back to WR

end of discussion

[forest siren]

Yeah. Like the one THC server where its like "Pay 30 months and get admin for a year!" And i'm like "So you mean I can ban all the AEK/G18 shitters? 🥴"

But yeah. I'd rent a server but fuck that.

[junior torrent]

we can say, fuck battlelog servers

go root for WR instead

[vale grail]

I've a diehard group that'd join up for a rented BF4 PSN server. The only issue is money, if I had the scratch to burn, I'd do it with a measured yet firm moderative apporach to keep things fair yet balanced when need be.

[halcyon sundial]

you got to love the folks who literally have like hundreds of thousands of career kills and like 80-90% of them are the aek

[burnt vine]

bf5 is surprisingly good

but bf4 is still better

[fallow root]

BF4 starting to feel aged at this point

10 year is still within the lifespan of a BF blockbuster game

BC2 revive is like tiny niche of its former self

Wonder if they are considering shutting down BF3 considering a respectable 13 years

[forest siren]

I guess you cant really shut down a game if people are willing to pay for it still

[solid hinge]

It's honestly all up to preferences

idk why people be running the von cluck skin

Looks like ass

[solid hinge]

just like the weapon

[pliant garden]

Question which battlefield game had the hardest art work?

[solid hinge]

My smile disappears when I see the 50 star on the gun

[solid hinge]

I think 1

[forest siren]

The helmet is cool at least

[solid hinge]

1 for sure

[pliant garden]

Hell yea

[solid hinge]

the concept arts on artstation are very cool