battlefield-legacy-titles

[junior torrent]

As in inviting certain people to trigger achievements with ease

[scenic elm]

im sorry sir but i feel instulted, i had to GRIND the L85 on Squad Deathmatch Strike at karkand 24/7 no tank

and EVERYONE on that god forsaken server is unleast a level 145

lol

• i don't even have enoght people that where willing to help me boost anyways

[junior torrent]

Ok.. you did well

[scenic elm]

the struggle was real

even tho it was definitely not worth all the brain cells lost and loads of new ways i came up with to call a individual using an M16A3 with Heavy Barrel and forgrip

[hasty marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ejs3cZtLg
Holy fuck its almost all I wanted

[solid carbon]

weird link

not gonna click that

[hasty marsh]

'83 Through the Gunsights : Weapons and Webcams
if youre curious and dont want to click a link

[scenic elm]

the knowledge that the devs of the game actually shared the progress back in the day must have been some Ancient secret

known to but a few !

[solid carbon]

yeah nice virus

[hasty marsh]

somehow I didnt catch that vid.

[peak rivet]

Does anyone know of a way to get the semi auto sniper with the ribbon on requiring sniper ribbons and c4 kills on naval strike maps?

[fallow root]

Were Karkand and Sharqi generally well received by BF2 vets on release in BF3

BF2 feels ancient now. No wonder I stick to Heroes

[torpid minnow]

Its literally youtube.com

[scenic elm]

Ah BF3 Sharqi, Atack helicopter city

[granite wyvern]

Now in top 50 for orders completed on Xbox (BFV) 😎

[little vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xN3pOdfyUFo

[cunning light]

back to karkand was a good map if relatively shallow in its map placements, but that's what you get with older maps

[brave escarp]

What's the best bf game

[upper berry]

4

Idk how popular it is Xbox recently

[hasty marsh]

1 for immersion, 4 for sandbox

though 1's sandbox is kickass in its own right

[tight rain]

Hardline

[upper berry]

Hardline is dead

[solar nexus]

1, 4, BC2, 3

[solar nexus]

Hardline is the 2nd worst battlefield after BF2042

[brave escarp]

I play 1 most of the time

Sometimes v

[tight rain]

Hl hater detected, opinion ignored

[hasty marsh]

HL is liked exclusively by contrarians and hipsters. If it wasnt it would be alive

[tight rain]

There is simply nothing better than tasering people plain and simple

[hasty marsh]

you make a good case

[solar nexus]

It shouldn't have been called battlefield. Just Hardline would've been fine and it wouldn't get the hate it got. It was released relatively close to BF4 that's an another reason it got the hate. Also they didn't support the game properly

[tight rain]

Man I guarantee people would have bitched about the name either way

[solar nexus]

Also EA killed Visceral games so there won't be a Hardline 2

[tight rain]

Not battlefield enough to be called battlefield but also not it’s own thing enough to not be a battlefield

[hasty marsh]

you cant have a cop game and not let me abuse my authority on random unarmed strangers

[solar nexus]

Not being a battlefield would've been better. It could just totally be its own thing. It may not have gotten the hate from battlefield players.

[hasty marsh]

mid game was mid

[solar nexus]

Better than Bf2042

[tight rain]

Aye i reckon it would have gotten less hate without adding battlefield, but honestly the game was doomed to die

Plenty of people would have bitched about it playing like battlefield

[solar nexus]

Because EA didn't support it properly

[tight rain]

And you just get a repeat of what happened here

[hasty marsh]

you keep saying that like that means fucking anything.
repairing a roof is more fun than 2042

[tight rain]

But that’s just my opinion

[solar nexus]

Hardline had a stable launch compared to BF4

[tight rain]

How did ea not support it properly?

[solar nexus]

Hardline has the core battlefield mechanics that BF2042 mostly got rid of

[hasty marsh]

this man is not real. This man is a parrot with a keyboard

just spews auto generated responses and does not process english

[tight rain]

As is the nature of dell

[hasty marsh]

@solar nexus What kind of parrot are you? Are you mayhaps a macaw?

or perhaps a parakeet those are easy to train

[solar nexus]

Content. Lost players very quickly

[solar nexus]

I am a human being

[tight rain]

It had a full dlc cycle

[crystal yoke]

No you are a laptop brand

[hasty marsh]

🦜

[vale grail]

Campaign's slept on, Multiplayer is a horrid mixup

[granite wyvern]

I preferred it to BF1

It had perfect rental servers

[vale grail]

Dell is an actual name and he named himself after the TF2 engineer

[livid bay]

Honestly. The campaign was one of the best in Battlefield history imo. It was especially good at it's characterization.

I personally liked the multiplayer. The vehicle mode was the only real advancement it did tho. The only bad thing I can say about it besides for that though is that it's just Bf4 reskinned as a cops vs. crims game

[junior torrent]

and hardline still feels like a BF game than 2042

[livid bay]

Well yeah. It's hard to move away from the battlefield feel when you basically copy/paste the past game and remodel it into cops vs. crims

2042 was made with new devs that knew nothing of what made battlefield, well, battlefield

[junior torrent]

ye

[upper berry]

Battlefield have the same exact core mechanics on every game.

They all play the same.

It’s just different themes and content which keeps them iconic from each other.

[hasty marsh]

this is not true.

pretty much most BFs have different movement mechanics in some way and spread values especially change alot from game to game as does TTK usually. Then theres BFV which did a ton of crazy shit with its gameplay.

1 also has a ton of rather odd mechanics for many of its weapons.

[upper berry]

They all about being an arcade, sandbox game with big teams and vehicles.

They all do the same exact thing.

The core is the same.

[hasty marsh]

until you look under the hood

[junior torrent]

Commander: am I a joke to you

[hasty marsh]

kinda is given its implementation in 4.
miss the commander in 2 summoning hell from the sky

[junior torrent]

Isn't the difference where in 2

Commander is actually on the field

[hasty marsh]

yes but more importantly he is far more powerful

Theres also actual buildings around the map that are tied to his abilities. You could take them out as a spec ops class and repair them as engineer. Fun minigame

so you'd have actuall artillery pieces and radar stations to use.

[junior torrent]

Honestly

[hasty marsh]

Commander could summon ammo boxes and drone recon in BF2, which did not have ammo boxes for support or spotting tools for recon. Commander artillery was absolutely devastating.

[junior torrent]

I'd hate to be on the field

If the game didn't have red zones for bases

[upper berry]

Wym?

[hasty marsh]

most of the time the commander was just an infantry guy. You dont need to stare at the screen 24/7

[hasty marsh]

well the actual mechainics behind that arcade gameplay and sandbox change wildly from game to game.

[junior torrent]

As a not so pvp fan, I'll just camp

[upper berry]

They all play the same due to the core mechanics. At the end of the day.

[hasty marsh]

this isnt an opinion or generalization, its just flat out incorrect. 1, V, 4, and 42 play quite differently from eachother. V especially

[junior torrent]

3 doesn't have commander. 4 does

Simple

3 has constant gunship spawn for rush, 4 doesn't

[hasty marsh]

3 and 4 are probably the most similar games of the lot

[junior torrent]

What's your break

[upper berry]

They all play the same. I explained it. Some games have different content and stuff from each other.

[upper berry]

This is the reason why.

[hasty marsh]

😐

[upper berry]

What is so hard to understand.

[junior torrent]

Difference in movement speed between the classic and modern BF

Same huh?

[upper berry]

That’s different

[junior torrent]

What a shit

[upper berry]

The core of the game is just obj focused. Big battles of 64p with vehicles. Which all of them have.

That’s the core of battlefield and it revolves around that.

Themes, movement, content, tech ad ect. Is different for every single game. Core don’t change. Core is static.

[sturdy osprey]

Only

[scenic elm]

honestly BFV's squad leader call ins serve a very similar role as the commander call ins

• you don't have non stop ENEMY SPOTED spam

[hasty marsh]

thats not the commander, people just think its funny

[scenic elm]

if im not mistaken the commander can spot enemies throgh his isometric view camera in BF2

that's where all the noise comes from

i could be wrong tho

i think the squad leader call ins are a better system then how dice made the commander in 2, but that's just personal opinion

[hasty marsh]

BFV always gave me the sense that some party in DICE wanted it to be a spiritual successor to BF2, a lot of mechanics gave me that vibe

but the game as a whole ended up unfocused

[scenic elm]

i wonder how a red orchestra style commander would work in a battlefield game

so you have allot more damage oriented call ins

the Off map AA call in ability from Rising storm 2 would have been a god send when you have one of the Aircraft only dudes on the server in BFV

[hasty marsh]

yknow I never figured out how RO commander works

[scenic elm]

in RO1 you can mark a location and only call in artilery with the pre set up radios

in it's similar in RO2 but you have allot more abilities

mostly just different artillery types and the respawn wave ability, you use it when allot of your team died at once to get them back in the fight, there is also the scout plane that spots enemies

but in RO2 every one just spams the 105 artillery strike out of the offensive abilities, the Respawn Wave and scout plane have seperate cool downs unlike the Artilery strikes

in RS2 it's identical as RO2 but all the factions have slightly different abilities and you only have access to one Artillery strike and one or two Off map airstrike

so the USA has the spooky while australia has the Cambera bomber etc

and the north vietnamese insted of an airstrike get an AA ability, and insted of having a forced respawn wave spawning where ever the player selected insted they get spawned on the commander (also it does not consume any tickets when the commander activates the respawn wave)

[granite wyvern]

Was completely different for 2042 though 😖

[granite wyvern]

It reminds me of Medal of Honor 2010 - the Cruise Missile was tough to get (but a ‘team killer’)

[vale grail]

It had promise but the multiplayer maps sucked and the game modes needed more polish.

[vale grail]

Also this

[upper berry]

Same thing but 128p included. Still doesn’t change the core of the franchise.

[granite wyvern]

No, 2042 excluded core features present in the franchise previously. Some have not been added even now. My whole clan had a history of only playing latest BF until new one came out then move to that. This is the first time ever the game was so not fit for purpose that we went back to previous BF.

[upper berry]

I never had an issue with 2042. 2042 still have the main core mechanics.

As I said every game is different for their Themes, movement, content, tech and ect.

Specialist or not. Still have the class system. But dosent change the core game.

[granite wyvern]

The game went live with no scoreboard

[upper berry]

Blame the leadership.

That have nothing to do with the core.

[solar nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/s/kEalFhvvxP

[upper berry]

Most of the legacy features is leadership fault. Still isn’t a core mechanic.

[solar nexus]

Doesn't seem like it's some isolated incident

Layoff the devs who were working on the next game, the lead who was in charge single player also leaves, and another co-founder of Ridgeline also left. Now another lead left

[upper berry]

He isn’t wrong. New generation doesn’t know what makes battlefield… battlefield

[granite wyvern]

Core features are what a lot of people expect and play for

[solar nexus]

That's why bf2042 is doing well. The veterans of the older games left

[upper berry]

That’s a legacy feature. Not the core.

[solar nexus]

The legacy features are what made battlefield battlefield

[upper berry]

Core defines battlefield

[granite wyvern]

Legacy lol

[solar nexus]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ea-says-generative-ai-could-make-it-30-more-efficient-and-boost-monetisation-by-up-20-over-5-years/

[solar nexus]

Will the next battlefield become a victim of this?

[granite wyvern]

So are those core features (which you have now called legacy like a shill would)

[upper berry]

Score board isn’t what battlefield is known for.

[solar nexus]

The classic 4 class system with standard solders?

[granite wyvern]

I beg to differ

[upper berry]

Core stays the same. Legacy features carries forward from a previous game.

[solar nexus]

It didn't in bf2042

[upper berry]

That’s what makes battlefield, battlefield.

[upper berry]

That’s because of the leadership.

A lot of veteran devs left 2042 due to the leadership.

[upper berry]

Yes that’s a core mechanic. In 2042, it’s a legacy mechanic.

It’s a legacy in 2042 because the game didn’t have 4 main class system and It was added later on. As any other battlefield. It’s a core mechanic.

BFV was supposed to have specialist but it wasn’t finished. So they moved the specialist system to 2042.

[solar nexus]

It's in portal but portal isn't the primary game mode

[upper berry]

Imagine if BFV with specialist system. People will flip shit on them still. Yet it can be different.

[solar nexus]

Bf5 had characters

[grand forge]

did bro really say Battlefield at its core is a scoreboard

[solar nexus]

Bf2042's specialists make it a hero shooter

[upper berry]

I’m talking about the core of 2042 aka AOW

[grand forge]

that's remarkably stupid

[livid bay]

I’m pretty sure they meant it’s a core mechanic, not that the core of battlefield is a scoreboard

[solar nexus]

Battlefield isn't known for scoreboard

[grand forge]

scoreboard is technically a QOL feature

it's 100% not necessary to gameplay

[upper berry]

Any game have scoreboard. It’s not a core mechanic.

[solar nexus]

The game didn't even have all chat till 2 years later

[grand forge]

helldivers has no scoreboard until the EOR

everyone loves that game

[livid bay]

Tbf, it is really only used to rank yourself against your teammates after the game ends. I’ve never seen someone actively use the scoreboard mid game

[upper berry]

That’s HD2. Multiple games out there have scoreboards. It still doesn’t define battlefield.

[solar nexus]

What about a single player campaign? which existed from BF2 modern combat till Bf5 some way

[upper berry]

That’s part of the core, obviously

[solar nexus]

What about levolution which was in BF4

[upper berry]

That’s a legacy feature.

But the core of BF4

[grand forge]

unessential

[upper berry]

Explain?

[grand forge]

battlefield is just big battles with vehicles

hence All Out Warfare in 2042 being jjust that

[livid bay]

Levolution is what made bf4 top tier imo. Being able to actively change the battle field like you could in an actual war is really good for big battles

[granite wyvern]

I said core feature - these things have become part and parcel of the BF experience

[grand forge]

yeah it's neat

but it's again an additive

what ypu expect isn't what is necessary

[upper berry]

That’s what defines battlefield. The core is supposed to have main 4 class system. As for 2042, it didn’t start with it, it’s a legacy mechanic. @grand forge

[grand forge]

agree

[upper berry]

The core never changes .

That’s what defines battlefield

Battlefield

As a whole.

[livid bay]

Battlefield imo is defined as a large, well, battlefield. No heros, no special gadgets, only soldiers and vehicles driven by them

[granite wyvern]

So when I started playing MP FPS games I was useless. I died over and over but I put time in to get better, improve my results - scoreboards/stats measure this. A lot of players have the same interest.

[grand forge]

but it's still not essential to the gameplay

[upper berry]

Yes. The rest defines the certain said game or legacy features come to the game later on.

Scoreboard is ideal to have but not essential to gameplay. You don’t rely on scoreboard to focus on the obj in middle of a gunfight.

[solar nexus]

What's the difference between getting rid of legacy features vs core features?

[granite wyvern]

It’s essential for what I get out of it. Many feel the same (hence they added one in to 2042).

[upper berry]

Core is big battles with vehicles and 64p lobbies. Legacy feature comes from a previous battlefield game or the game didn’t start out with it.

[solar nexus]

How does one another affect? Both should be unacceptable

[solid hinge]

You may be able to shoot virtual guys with guns regardless of whether or not a scoreboard is there but did we all not grow up comparing stats to our friends, using it to check our in game performance, and motivate ourselves to get better or improve a particular stat, some things should just be present and work on day 1 of a games release

[livid bay]

Yea. Though, One of the other cores of battlefield is the ability to make your own story. Bf1 and Bf5 were the best at this. Unlike other shooters where you die every 2 seconds, in battlefield you feel like your life both matters a lot and is insignificant to the main battle. This allows you to really feel like you are in the middle of a big war and are an actual soldier

[grand forge]

you can play the game without a scoreboard it would be the same

it's QOL

[solid hinge]

Some other things should also never be removed

[grand forge]

is it stupid that it was ommited, yes

not defending that

[upper berry]

I agree.

[grand forge]

bvut it is not essential for the game to work

[solar nexus]

Lack of a scoreboard isn't good. It shouldn't be considered a legacy or a core feature either

[upper berry]

Scoreboard dosent mean anything. It’s that one thing you want to look at, but have no meaning at all to the gameplay.

[solar nexus]

What about the lack of a server browser which we still don't have for the core game modes

What about having persistent servers for non portal

[solid hinge]

QoL is a bigger thing than the abbreviation may tell about it, that stuff is pretty much crucial but not in the same way stable servers or proper hitreg may be

People won’t play the game without it and it not being there looks awful on everyone involved

[livid bay]

Yeah. A scoreboard is a basic part of most shooters. Not just battlefield. It should just be a basic feature you expect when you buy a shooter like battlefield or cod

[upper berry]

That’s a legacy. Server browser is the same situation as scoreboard.

[solar nexus]

Scoreboard is not a selling point for battlefield

[upper berry]

^

[crystal yoke]

I don't know about it being legacy or core feature man but I think scoreboard is so basic fucking thing that must be available day one no matter what happens like cmon bro.

[grand forge]

again, stupid it was missing we agree

[upper berry]

Server browser is really nice to have but doesn’t chnage how the game feels. It’s just an advanced way to pick a match.

[grand forge]

again, QOL. Unessential but good to have

[solar nexus]

They took 4 months after launch to add the scoreboard

[upper berry]

Yes

[livid bay]

The server browser’s fair

It’s a cool thing to have but is not essential to the game

[crystal yoke]

Yeah but it's been a year why to talk about it now bro

[solid hinge]

This shouldn’t downplay or pad the importance of it being there regardless though. With all due respect I feel like it’s just semantics to say “well it should be there but it’s not absolutely crucial”. When we’re talking about absolutely crucial things we’re talking about like, the most fundamental aspects that nobody thinks about but that’s just because that’s how a 70 dollar product should function

[upper berry]

Most of missing things was due to leadership of 2042. Majority of it is QoL. 4 main class is a legacy feature. It should’ve been there from the start, I agree.

[grand forge]

what does the server browser add to gameplay

[solar nexus]

Destruction, class based combat, vehicle combat are the selling points of battlefield but these are somehow removed or downgraded in bf2042

[solid hinge]

You’re not going to have the same gameplay experience if you can’t fine tune what it is you want

[upper berry]

That’s QoL. It means nothing to gameplay.

[solid hinge]

Why should we ask what XYZ feature adds to the game when a lot of these things the franchise had for like the last 2 decades, come on

[solar nexus]

When they consider a core feature a legacy feature

[upper berry]

Server browser is never the main selling point of battlefield. It’s QoL.

[livid bay]

You saying it’s $70 just reminded me of why the “QoL features” that are “unnecessary” should be there no matter what. For 1 copy of 2042, I can buy Palworld + Helldivers 2

[solar nexus]

The single player campaign has been

[upper berry]

It wasn’t added to the game in the first place or was a feature that was presented in previous games.

[upper berry]

I agree

[solid hinge]

Oh yeah im definitely not saying certain things are exactly selling points for the franchise. But at the same time i dont think that was ever kp’s point

[crystal yoke]

Bro there was scoreboard but not so defined right?

[solid hinge]

I’m not gonna shit on dice or ea for things that im not employed there to know for certain ended up a certain way for a particular reason, but at the same time if people elevated their standards to expect these things on day 1 imagine any of these games 1 or 2 years later if they didn’t have to focus on fixing a product for an acceptable state

[granite wyvern]

Hear hear!

[solid hinge]

Yea it was garbage

Like one was “there” but our scoreboard friends spirit was not there

[livid bay]

People need to elevate their standards all around. The new ceos of gaming need to learn that they can’t just push out cash grab after cash grab. We need to stop preordering and supporting bad games or they’ll never stop releasing them

[solar nexus]

Scoreboard is very important but it's not something that defined battlefield

[granite wyvern]

Server browser is the thing still missing which means my clan can’t return to 2042

[solid hinge]

I feel like scoreboards actually defined fps as a whole and in a couple pretty important aspects, socialization and competition

[crystal yoke]

[solar nexus]

The scoreboard goes way back to doom 1993

Most fps games follow the design of quake 1999 scoreboard

Quake 1999 itself is interesting

[solid hinge]

Yep unfortunately

[solar nexus]

ID software developed the technologies for Quake 1999 that most modern games and almost all fps games uses

COD, CS, TITANFALL, and several others game's game engine is based on the quake engine

Titanfall's engine is actually based on the counter strike's source engine but Source engine is based on the quake engine

[solar nexus]

Stop buying microtransactions

Support platforms like GOG

[solar nexus]

What about the other things that are missing?

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Global Tug-of-War over the Earth's most vital resource ignites as the Thousand Petals Coalition lands in Chile 🇨🇱

Full coverage: The Reed Report | Future Rising
👉 https://go.ea.com/ReedReport

𝕏 | 📷1 · Mar 11, 2024, 1:14 PM

[granite wyvern]

Full squad control is still missing I believe

[solar nexus]

Did EA cut the budget of the next battlefield? Since so many layoffs, departures and restructuring related to the next battlefield

[solar nexus]

Crouch Walk?

Artillery support?

[granite wyvern]

I’ve not played the game for years but sure there are plenty of things still missing

[solar nexus]

The classic class system with standard solders which is only available in portal

[granite wyvern]

I had a long list at launch (but believe some have been ‘fixed’ since)

[solid hinge]

I still think it’s weird there’s an entire set of character models for the US and RU in game that are simply unplayable. Only for bots

[solar nexus]

The older battlefield games were detailed. Like if you die you would spawn as a solder of a different model which doesn't exist in bf2042

That gave the impression of battlefield

[junior torrent]

Isn't it the same as BC1 and forward

Classes have different, singular skins

[granite wyvern]

My list from 2021 was (scoreboard was back by this point):-

Persistent servers
Server browser
Squad control
Smaller (infantry based) modes
Platoons
Stats
VoIP
Get rid of bots
Return of classes

[junior torrent]

In your own damn dream with the rid bots

Leave all of the chaotic settings for private solo lobbies

[proper mist]

Just played The last tiger in battlefield 5 and damm it was good

[tight rain]

Well said clef, now threaten his family

[junior torrent]

[uneven hollow]

it’s the only way

[junior torrent]

With force

[granite wyvern]

Bots have no place in a multiplayer game

[tight rain]

The bots can’t be much worse than some of the teammates I’ve had

[junior torrent]

Then leave them fucking secluded to custom matches

Just go play regular Public lobbies only

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

An infiltration from within designed to reveal the Thousand Petal Coalition's agenda unmasked an imminent attack in Chile.

LOG: Dec 2048 | Fated Path
👉 http://go.ea.com/Specialist-Stories

𝕏 | 📷1 · Mar 11, 2024, 4:30 PM

[drowsy smelt]

fix pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKlQEzOyNFQ

[uneven hollow]

Soon

[royal gull]

They need to go back to BFV, port it to modern consoles, add in 1944/5 Western Front and Eastern Front content, rebrand it and relaunch it as Battlefield 1944.

[hasty marsh]

V would need to be good for that to work

[granite wyvern]

V is a great game

[hasty marsh]

😐

[neat moth]

In which BF are air planes hardest to fly?

[hasty marsh]

battlefield 2 probably

[torpid minnow]

Whats wrong with the game

[vale grail]

In short it was a rushjob with unrealistic deadlines and EA favoured woke revisionist history rather than maintaining historical truth to the campaign and multiplayer along with codification of many aspects in multiplayer too. It was so bad most veterans of the DICE studios quit and BFV set the foundation of Battlefield's damnation.

[scenic elm]

Codification of multiplayer ? (if you mean the gameplay then im confuzed)

[vivid rain]

https://youtu.be/whuxNXrpIl8?si=3d9EGefzA7n5T918 For anyone curious about 2142. Many BF2 maps are now available so you can fight with future weapons in oldschool maps.

[vale grail]

Gameplay went from decently paced to 'sprint, slide quickscope'. It sucks because of how inconsistent it is. You need to mount mmgs but they still have insane recoil despite being in a fixed position

You need to do all that for an mmg but someone with a laserbeam smg sprintslides around a corner and eats an entire MG42 salvo only to instantly kill you.

Skill honestly has nothing to do with it really, it's just a rushed barebones mess. And for whatever reason dice didn't learn their lesson when 2042 was in development either.

[scenic elm]

MMG's have like, no recoil while bipoded so i have no idea where this idea comes from honestly, it is true that you can be melted by other weapons from long range.... but uh what battlefield does not have that issue ?

in BF3 an assault with any assault rifle can laser beam you across the map like it's nothing

the game is slightly faster paced then BF1 but that's not really codification

[vale grail]

I use the MG42, even in short bursts it's wiggling all over the place for some reason.

[vale grail]

You'd think that but you'd be honestly surprised just how much a 'little different' can be a huge diffrence. Say for example an artiliry piece is notched one half milimeter to the left, might not seem like a lot but it'd be the difference between a miss or a hit.

[tight rain]

In an odd reversal of what is usually recommended try mag dumping

[neat moth]

What's the correct way to use MMG? If I stay still I became sniper's target practice.

[tight rain]

Area denial

Or find a choke point and nail em

[zinc snow]

Yep mow down when they funnel through an area

[sturdy osprey]

In bfv?

[torpid minnow]

So bfV is bad because you cant control recoil and it has women?

[granite wyvern]

Don’t. It’s a camper’s weapon.

[granite wyvern]

Don’t listen to fools

[neat moth]

I thought I can go brainless spraying for support and suppression, not necessary kills, on games that I just want to chillout.

[granite wyvern]

Just sounds boring and cynical to me (but each to their own).

[neat moth]

Not like I would do that every game tho, just after playing a few games and I'm tired, I usually sit on mounted guns or AA.

[solar nexus]

https://youtu.be/azGblc6Zxn0?si=ZoOUWUEiXwSWOBMp

[scenic elm]

depends on map, on more open maps MMG's are useless, but on more close quarters maps like roterdam , provance or devastation they can work, you move from position to position and gun down any enemies that you can see, you will have to master hiding in plain sight and know good places to camp to use this effectively, but just siting in one spot is a horrible idea, you need to relocate after every few kills

same advice applies to AT rifles but they are even more punishing, in both cases Avoid sniper sight lines if possible

the MG42 with 250 round belt and reduced overheating upgrades is the best MMG, you can fire 70 rounds before your gun overheat's, this let's you kill around 8 players in one burst with Average accuracy

[torpid minnow]

Mmg obsession

[dapper hornet]

uhh the next battlefield's development doesn't sound very good so far

[scenic elm]

I am Heavy Weapons guy, and THIS is my weapon

[dapper hornet]

marcus lehto leaves, ridgeline games shut down, craig morrison leaves

tf goin on man

[scenic elm]

worst case scenario the next game is another Terrible launch that they will be fixing for 2 years and then abandon to make the next game

[dapper hornet]

im tired boss

[junior torrent]

Well... Do you have 3 or 4 on PC?

[dapper hornet]

fortunately yes

still sucks to see them fumble it so hard like this

is tiggr at least still a part of developing the next bf?

[scenic elm]

oh boy someone is about to Preach about "our" lord and savior, Warsaw revamped

[hasty marsh]

Lack of coherent vision. BFV is a mishmash of a BF2 successor, a BF1 clone, and fortnite. Any one of these directions could have made for a decent game but since they never really went in any specific way, the result is a game with serious pacing and tonal issues, a botched live service, and a mountain of cut or unused content

[scenic elm]

Fortnight ? what

[hasty marsh]

Heavy inspirations from the overly bright art style & cheery characters, as well as some BR mechanics making their way into the main game.

IDK what else to call it but there was clearly some 3rd vision for the game that only manifested in its art style

given that this was 2018 and everyone was scrambling for a BR, fortnite seems like the main inspiration there

[scenic elm]

BR mechanics ? the art style part is personal opinion so i won't comment on that

like the game launched without firestorm, im not aware of any mechanics bleeding in to the main game

from firestorm

unless Anti tank rifles count as a mechanic

[hasty marsh]

the most obvious one was probably squad revive. Firestorm was meant to be launch but it was delayed. There was also a mini-br that was one of the gamemodes

[scenic elm]

yea i played last stand...once

[hasty marsh]

yeah they fucked up those operations hard

[scenic elm]

eh operations aren't that bad but like 40% of the server like to leave after one of the three battles ends

[granite wyvern]

Squad revive is great

[scenic elm]

yea squad revives are a good feature in my book

[hasty marsh]

did not say it wasnt. Just said the game was taking inspirations from fortnite in some areas.

[scenic elm]

other games have a similar mechanic... that are not fortnight

[hasty marsh]

it was 2018. This was just the gaming landscape at the time. every game was taking inspirations and ideas from fortnite

that doesnt mean squad revive is a bad mechanic, thats just its origins

[scenic elm]

well if you think that is where dice stole...i mean "borrowed" the idea from it's fine by me

no way of knowing for sure

[hasty marsh]

the problem isnt that its taking from it. The problem is that BFV shows evidence of several incompatible visions for the game clashing with eachother.

an overly bright goofy and chaotic BF game could have worked and been good had they not tried to also be a gritty immersive and serious game at the same time.

a problem that extended into 2042 with its jarring ludonarrative dissonance

[spring wasp]

when new season

[granite wyvern]

Still, BFV is my fave of the BFs I’ve played

[solid hinge]

what are you guys hoping BF6 is going to be?

[hasty marsh]

I hope it has a working mouse and a server browser

Perhaps, if I am optimistic, it may hit bare minimum coherency'

[solid hinge]

i'm hoping Vietnam, you don't see a ton of nam' games around

civil war would be cool too

[scenic elm]

Well Which Civil war

[solid hinge]

the war against slavery

muskets and such

[scenic elm]

Nydar 47 reflex sight on my Rifled Musket go brrrr

[hasty marsh]

people are hyped for a setting as if we arent unsure the thing will even have classes

[solid hinge]

as long as i can be a medic i'm ok with anything

[hasty marsh]

6 needs to play it safe because if 6 fucks up the franchise dies. No history settings should be on the table unless theyre ditching live service.

[solid hinge]

2042 did flop but one other bad game doesnt mean the series dies

[hasty marsh]

2042 is not the only recent flop. With the shitshow surrounding BFV and SWBF2, the franchise has been in a bad state for 6 years. Another flop means BF would have underperformed and been a center of controversy for a decade straight.

[solid hinge]

BF1

[hasty marsh]

Not to mention that both 2042 and BF6 have much more resources poured into them

[hasty marsh]

by 2025 it would have been a 9 year old game.

[granite wyvern]

Setting is irrelevant vs quality of the game itself

[hasty marsh]

assuming a minimum of 2 years between BF6 and BF7, a failed BF6 would be a decade of DICE failing to deliver

[solid hinge]

but the lead dev of TF2 is working on BF6

[granite wyvern]

Not if you love BFV (which many do)

[hasty marsh]

some people like BFV sure but at the end of the day it underperformed in sales due to the PR shitshow and the botched live service lead to it never becoming what EA wanted

[solid hinge]

i think if BF6 has BFV movement, BF1 classes and good performance they should be perfectly fine

[granite wyvern]

I concede the PR was horrendous at launch

[hasty marsh]

The setting is going to play into the quality and appeal to a degree. Historical games focus much more on immersion while modern games focus more on the sandbox.

[solid hinge]

i prefer historical

[hasty marsh]

theres also a bit of an issue if you have a historical game and want to base your long term strategy on selling player skins

[solid hinge]

I FRACKING LOVE HISTORY

[granite wyvern]

I’ve known great games and terrible games in all settings.

[hasty marsh]

not to say one is good or bad. But it will effect the quality because it means they have to execute on different things

[scenic elm]

you can still do it, it's not impossible to do tasteful skins in a historical game

[hasty marsh]

normally I would hope for a history one too but it is the year of our lord 2024 and AAA studios cannot be trusted to potray history

[tight rain]

I just wanna m16a1

[scenic elm]

but dice probobly can't do it

[solid hinge]

with BF it's either a hit or a miss

[hasty marsh]

You miss the mechanisms at play here. Yes you can do skins, and yes DICE can do them tastefully. But, unlike what shills love to claim, MTX dont exist soley to keep the lights on. It cant just make money, it needs to make lots of money. And to make lots of money with skins, you need those skins to be noticable and distinct.

[solid hinge]

BFV and BF1 are still thriving so if DICE makes a good game it will be good for 10 years

[scenic elm]

i know why they make flashy skins, it's not rocket science now is it

[hasty marsh]

this is the thing with the slippery slope fallacy: it stops being a fallacy when the slope is observably slippery. We have seen this spiral into nonsense again and again and again

[solid hinge]

we don't need to argue about the next game, it's not like this conversation is going to impact DICE's choices

[scenic elm]

talking about the next game is pointless because we know nothing

[hasty marsh]

we know they want to make a BR and that several creative leads have left

[scenic elm]

True, this are red flags but that's all

[hasty marsh]

more red flags than the fucking soviet union

[solid hinge]

yup, we should talk about it when there is a trailer or an announcement, not when the game is coming out in a year or two

[hasty marsh]

and this is before they announce their bad ideas

[scenic elm]

il wait and see when there is an open beta or something

like with 2042

[hasty marsh]

IDK man Im kind of on the edge of my seat. Can dice outdo themselves and somehow make an even worse game? It will take innovative strategies to fuck up harder

[solid hinge]

why are you so aggressive about BF6 Nutter. If you aren't excited to play it then just don't, no one is making you

[hasty marsh]

because I find that hyping myself up over an unnanounced game from a franchise with a track record of fucking up launches is cringe.
I want BF6 to be good, fwiw. But there is no reason to have faith in that at current.

[solid hinge]

i'm not hyping myself up, if the game is bad i won't play it, but you still have to be optimistic about it even if the chances are bad

[scenic elm]

unleast we will have all the funny glitch compilation videos if it's bad

[hasty marsh]

but you still have to be optimistic
lol no i dont

[scenic elm]

while im compleatly uninvested

if it's good then it's good, if it's bad then what ever

[hasty marsh]

if its bad then ill just sit back and laugh and boot up BF4 for another 4 years

[scenic elm]

BF2042 player numbers will probobly spike and it will be like 80% off on sale

[solid hinge]

a life spent being pessimistic is not a fun life no matter what you tell yourself

[hasty marsh]

bro its a shit videogame its not that deep

you think i live a pessimistic life cause im pessimistic about battlefield 6?

[solid hinge]

no one said it was going to be a crap game, maybe see how you feel about in in a couple of months

[hasty marsh]

couple of months? It releases in 2025 we're not getting news for a year at least

[solid hinge]

a year then

but there is no use arguing about a game lets just chill out and enjoy the good games we already have

not the ones coming in a year

[scenic elm]

it might be best to forget about the next BF game till they unleast release a trailer

[hasty marsh]

I can enjoy old BFs and laugh at new BFs at the same time

[solid hinge]

-GTA6 we can talk about that one

i agree with oliwier

[scenic elm]

Ace combat 8

[solid hinge]

ngl i have no idea what that game is

[hasty marsh]

Shadow of the Erdtree is the only thing im currently excited for

[scenic elm]

Ace Combat is a series of Japanese arcade air combat games

[solid hinge]

i just really want more historical games

[scenic elm]

it has funny super weapons ala metal gear solid

[hasty marsh]

the dawn of live service has kinda killed history FPS games

[solid hinge]

i want a renaissance game, or an old America game founding fathers style

[scenic elm]

war of rights ? maybe hunt showdown ?

[hasty marsh]

boot up old assassin creed games

[solid hinge]

I WILL STRIKE THESE CRIMINALS DOWN WITH MY MUSKET AS THE FOREFATHERS INTENDED

[scenic elm]

god dam south canadians and they're founding fathers

[hasty marsh]

*they're

[solid hinge]

i was thinking more like a old NCY 1790's style

powdered wigs, wooden buildings, George Washington, ect.

[hasty marsh]

Boot up AC3 dude, got a whole game in the colonies

hell Im half sure you get to kill george washington

[scenic elm]

Europe had more fun stuff happening at the time

[solid hinge]

he was the fanciest man to ever die of a thoat infection

i know it did oliwier but i'm an American and i enjoy American history (i do like medieval europe though)

[hasty marsh]

medieval europe
1790

[solid hinge]

1500's medieval Europe, knights and armor

[scenic elm]

that's the renesans

[solid hinge]

shhhhhhhhh

don't worry about it

[scenic elm]

Medival period ended in 1453

[solid hinge]

wow a lot older than i thought

i probably like knights and armor because i'm a fantasy nerd

[scenic elm]

well, when plate armor was invented, firearms where common place in europe by that time

This is why warhammer fantasy is best, because they have GUNS

[solid hinge]

i like D&D and Magic: The Gathering

have you ever been a shotgun wielding minitour

[scenic elm]

nah

[solid hinge]

thats the power of D&D, you can be a human guy or a flying pair of khaki pants

[scenic elm]

never played D&D

[solid hinge]

you can do anything without the restraints of code

you can slay a god or make a cult based around the sussy impostor

you can do ANYTHING

as long as the DM allows it

[scenic elm]

Can i have Ian from forgotten weapons ? he's looking to enchant his 7.65 french long

[solid hinge]

lol yes

[scenic elm]

Ian Proceeds to gun down everyone with a Famas and a Mat49

[tight rain]

Dnd is some good fun

[solid hinge]

you can make is 7.65 into a bomb, or be infused with the essence of a celestial

[hasty marsh]

"Hello, Ian from forgotten weapons here at the rock island auction house. Today we have the cursed necrosword of algoroch"

[solid hinge]

dnd in a nutshell

[scenic elm]

he did the Halo shotgun episode so who knows

[tight rain]

That would make for a good npc

[solid hinge]

D&D aside do you guys have a BF1 medic gun recommendation, i was thinking about getting the RSC 1917 Factory

[tight rain]

Same with the Chinese assault rifle

[scenic elm]

yea

[hasty marsh]

whats funny is that he is not the only gun youtuber to do this

[tight rain]

Federov is good

[solid hinge]

ok thx

[scenic elm]

can't wait till he does the Aliens pulse rifle

because it's based on the Thompson

[hasty marsh]

Had garand thumb doing the assault rifle and acting as if he was in the human covenant war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_XGEgRZsAI&t=278s

[solid hinge]

see you guys later, imma play some BF1

Federov trench or optical

[hasty marsh]

opticals are ugly

[scenic elm]

he also did a starship troopers cosplay with the other guy

there gona do Helldivers in no time at this rate

[solid hinge]

i don't care what they look like as long as they are good

[scenic elm]

i think trench is best

you get an Assault rifle pretty much

[storm marlin]

Trailer leaked. The second map is the reused stadium

[solid hinge]

i sould be able to get it in about an hour or so with waht i have so far

i was thinking about getting BFV

[hasty marsh]

kinda fucked to say "hey we got new maps plural" and have one be the stadium

[granite wyvern]

Even the trailer is too soon to react for some idiots, look at this ‘Content Creator’ when watching the 2042 trailer lol:-

https://youtu.be/e0MayKmtvbU?si=AJwVDT7gloykDqkl

[hasty marsh]

are you on PC

[solid hinge]

ye

[hasty marsh]

Do not get Battlefield V

[solid hinge]

why

[hasty marsh]

It is catastrophically hacked

people are doing shit Ive never seen before on it.
They can redeploy the whole server, they can spam infinite gadgets, they can use cut weapons. Its just fucked

[solid hinge]

my friend plays it on PC and he didn't have any trouble with it

[scenic elm]

it's on and off kind of problem

sometimes you get a cheater on every server

or you don't see them at all

[hasty marsh]

I also dont think V is that good so...

[scenic elm]

Also if you play on comunity servers the chance of a cheater showing up is allot lower

[solid hinge]

what is your favotite then Nutter

[scenic elm]

same thing applies to 1 and 4

[solid hinge]

i have never seen a cheater in 1 before

[hasty marsh]

1 and 4

[solid hinge]

same here nutter

[granite wyvern]

1 looks prettier and has better atmosphere than BFV but is inferior in every other area. I always thought it appealed to the masses (casuals) though.

[solid hinge]

i am crap at this game, 8 minutes, 2 kills

[hasty marsh]

except the gunplay, map design, sandbox, balance, and anti cheat

[delicate sinew]

i was thinking of getting bf5 on pc is hacking really that bad on pc for it ?

[scenic elm]

first 3 are personal opinion, and number 5 in BF1 is entirely reliant on admins kicking the cheaters

[granite wyvern]

Anti cheat is irrelevant to me (as on console) but actually, I’ll give you balance

[frigid veldt]

Posted

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𝕏 | 🎬1 · Mar 12, 2024, 4:04 PM

▻

[solid hinge]

you know people can still hack on concle right, although it does require an external device such as a laptop

[spring wasp]

Play #battlefield-legacy-titles 2042 Season 7: Turning Point on March 19.

[scenic elm]

well but unleast on consols they can't crash servers and mass redeploy everyone Yet

[hasty marsh]

nah.
1 is a master with the sandbox, having extremely interactable maps and many outright strange weapons vehicles and gadgets. V only approached this in its pacific content
5's spread to recoil system makes many weapons feel outright terrible and does not remove randomness like people claim
5's launch maps were also almost all incredibly boring and only became decent around season 4

[solid hinge]

right

A lot of v maps can be strange in breakthrough, aerodrome and fjell come to mind as not being very enjoyable to play on, especially twisted steel

[scenic elm]

personal opinion, i like the maps and gunplay in V so i disagree

[silent dagger]

oh my god people still plays bf1 i thought it died

[scenic elm]

but everyone is entitled to there own opinion

[hasty marsh]

oh of course people still play it

[silent dagger]

but not too many right

[hasty marsh]

more than enough for a match

[solid hinge]

its the 2nd most thriving rn

[scenic elm]

BF1 is in the top 3

[silent dagger]

wait fr

[hasty marsh]

well, what do you like about them?

[scenic elm]

i simply like the gunplay, allot of the maps in V are pretty eh but devastation , roterdam and provance are really good

i like the fortification system , how the tanks work in V

the squad call ins are cool

campaigns are Eh but overhated

[hasty marsh]

So you agree with me on the maps then.

[solid hinge]

Rotterdam and devastation are ok i suppose

[scenic elm]

yea but allot of the problems that i have with the maps in V are common in BF1 as well

the ones i don't like that is

allot are too open for my liking

[hasty marsh]

just rotterdam tbh.

[scenic elm]

both roterdam and devastation flow preaty well

[hasty marsh]

and even then I cant get over that rotterdam has the wrong faction

[scenic elm]

• no Overpowered aircraft

Just the overpowered Staghound

[granite wyvern]

It’s so rare though it’s a non-problem. You certainly won’t find a post here from me complaining about cheaters.

[solid hinge]

I feel like open maps flow better in bf1 cause how the gunplay works in that game, you’ll deal with prone lmgs and other snipers at range but most players are medic or assault anyway

[solid hinge]

Dutch faction?

[hasty marsh]

they also flow better because they are better designed in general. Compare the flow of Sinai Desert to Al Sundan.

[hasty marsh]

yeah

[granite wyvern]

Pacific is the worst part of BFV

[uneven hollow]

Le gasp

[hasty marsh]

[solid hinge]

Al sundan makes me want to cry that map is awful

[scenic elm]

Al sudan, walking sim interrupted by occasional bombing

[solid hinge]

I can’t see anyone when they’re hiding in those damn buildings or sniping in a bush

[granite wyvern]

Most of the Strategic Conquest maps are apart from Provence. The Tactical Conquest rotation is where it’s at.

[scenic elm]

solomon islands and pacific storm are Fine but iwo jima is getting Bombed by aircraft simulator

[solid hinge]

I live in breakthrough but tactical conquest was pretty decent when I played it

[scenic elm]

breakthroght is all fun and games till the atackers start camping in spawn

[royal gull]

Al Sundan is fun if you stay in the town area, C, D, E iirc

[scenic elm]

till the Bombers figure out where all the infantry are and you get farmed by aircraft

or the enemy team get's farmed by aircraft

usualy both teams at once

[solid hinge]

[royal gull]

Wake Conquest is the best map in BFV by far

[granite wyvern]

Solomon in the jungle is okay. Most of the Pacific is oversized, randomized and people lay in undergrowth (so like hide and seek finding that one guy on a flag before you spend the next 20 minutes getting to the next).

[granite wyvern]

Nope, Al Marj & Underground for me.

[scenic elm]

Solomon is like a solid 7 while Pacific storm is a 6

[royal gull]

I don't like cqc maps but I do think the 5 flag variant of Al Marj is pretty good

Provence is my second favorite map

[scenic elm]

Provance is pretty good

[hasty marsh]

Provence is suprisingly good for a CQ map kitbashed from a tdm map

[royal gull]

Provence gets that balance right between infantry and vehicle combat

[granite wyvern]

Provence should be in Tactical. It’s a great map.

[royal gull]

Arras too

[scenic elm]

shame it's after Panzerstorm in the map rotation

Panzerstorm is not Total pain to play but it's still bad

[granite wyvern]

Yeah my current rotation is Arras through to Devastation then back to Arras.

[granite wyvern]

Yep

[scenic elm]

arras is preaty decent all things considered

[granite wyvern]

And I believe Al Sundan is after Provence - what a shit sandwich lol

[scenic elm]

if the staghound was not so busted it would be allot more fun to play

[solid hinge]

I only really played arras in breakthrough so I can’t even say I experienced much of it but

[royal gull]

I don't think I actively hate any map in BFV

[solid hinge]

bro... 27 min round, 8 kills

[scenic elm]

Al sudan , panzerstorm , Iwo jima and Hamara definitely bring the most suffering

[royal gull]

I don't like Fjell, Narvik, and Underground but I don't always back out when they come on

[scenic elm]

Fjell sucks because it has Aircraft

[granite wyvern]

In Tactical I only dislike Narvik and Mercury

[scenic elm]

Mercury is another map where aircraft kill the fun

[granite wyvern]

The map also inspires people to ignore objectives and snipe from hills/spawn and sit in spawn with tanks.

[scenic elm]

i think mercury is accualy best on Outpost because you don't get Bombed 24/7

it's more Fun where your getting shot at by a sniper that can't probobly hit you anyways

then getting non stop bombed by aircraft

that have the AA gun positions memorized and fire there weapons outside of Fligerfaust effective range

[vale grail]

Yes.

[scenic elm]

also, fun fact, so you guys know the Cerveza Cristal beer memes

[vale grail]

the game forces you to stay in one spot otherwise you can't aim with it

[scenic elm]

the Beer is from Valparaíso

like the map from bad company 2

and 2042

[vale grail]

it's the same map, just in a different game

[vale grail]

Cool funfact though.

[scenic elm]

Dice should add Cerveza Cristal

to 2042

[vale grail]

They couldn't afford the copyright fees to peter pan or snow white, let alone anything else.

[scenic elm]

apparently it's the cheapest, crappiest beer in Chile, how could they not afford it ?

[vale grail]

Simple, they burn every dollar trying to salvage 2042 instead of just canning it entirely and working on a new game.

they cut BC1, 2 and 1943 servers for the sole reason to push the shitty portal mode in 2042

[indigo forum]

Who knows trailer music name or source from the last battlefield 2042 trailer?

[vale grail]

which trailer'd that be?

[scenic elm]

the season 7 trailer

i assume

[vale grail]

god it looks like cod

Just watched through it, apparently it's some jank version of the classic battlefield theme

[indigo forum]

Last one

Season 7

Turning point gameplay

[ember plinth]

glad we gettin destruction rich map

now can we have destruction update please

[spice vortex]

Started replaying BC2 and it's great to see it's still populated. That game aged greatly

[vale grail]

the one that dropped about an hour ago?

[vale grail]

Wait, what? They killed the servers last year in december

[indigo forum]

Yep

[vale grail]

just yet another stage of company dimentia

Seriously, it feels more shoddy than that 'willy's wonderland' scam in Glasgow.

[rough cliff]

Is the season out?

[tight rain]

Nope

Just the trailer

[vale grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp2VIsQkKLg

the comments are ripping dice appart

[heavy slate]

Yo guys i'm sorry if this is a wrong channel but if anyone got nordvik "dead-center" skin for ak24 please send me PM i need a favour if you have a minute or two

[tight rain]

Try #battlefield-2042

[uneven hollow]

if only

[random thicket]

Waited this long for 3 new weapons & 2 maps? lmao battlefield is trash.

[gray glade]

you're gonna make battlefield cry

[jade verge]

it really did

[junior torrent]

It's just missing bots

[jade verge]

there was/is a server with bots

fire and frost or something

[junior torrent]

I think I know what you're referring to

I heard the bots there kind of ass

[jade verge]

they are lol

[junior torrent]

And there's no public download for the mod

So useless

You know what

Had dice never abandoned bots from BC1 upt to V

Maybe I wouldn't be in this mess

[jade verge]

too bad they never ported onslaught from console

that was bots coop on mutliplayer maps right

[junior torrent]

Yes

Honestly

Onslaught reminds me of battlefront 2 coop

Isn't it just attack and defend flag points

[jade verge]

something like that

unfortunately bc2 came out during dice's "fuck over pc players" era so we never got bc1, 1943 or onslaught from bc2

[solid hinge]

why was that

[jade verge]

nobody really knows. they just said it would come over and then it didnt

but we got bf play4free so its all good, right?

[junior torrent]

We already have bf3 VU

And now, bf4 WR coming soon

[solar nexus]

Worry about the next one

So many bad news recently regarding the next game

[vale grail]

Real Cheapy the Cheapskate moment for real.

[vale grail]

It's insane how horrid it's all become here.

[granite wyvern]

How do you mean?

[vale grail]

the degragation of the battlefield franchise

BF1's obviously not without flaw, it's got plenty of issues but at least in that game you can look pas them

*past

[hasty marsh]

the biggest flaw people point towards in bf1 is also completley placebo

[granite wyvern]

I was always positive about all the BF games I played before 2042 came along

[solid hinge]

Could you explain? I agree that a lot of flaws people point to for BF1 can be… interesting to say the least, I’m just curious

[solid hinge]

Agreed, or they’re not even that bad unless you (generally speaking) have fuzzy memories of the game cause you haven’t played it in literal years and you’re defending 2042….

[verbal bone]

I was kinda hoping that this new season would draw me back into the game after not playing since season 2. But yea just kinda seems to be more of the same stuff.

[hasty marsh]

BF1 does not have higher spread. Its spread is identical to BF4 for most weapon types, which means it also has less spread than BF3. LMGs, meanwhile, have less spread the more you shoot.
The reason people think BF1 has higher spread is due the firing animations, notably a high visual recoil.

[verbal bone]

Id say BF1 is about 90% solid, the random bullet deveation is only really bad on LMGs and some SLRs. It makes sense for the LMGs cuz id rather not have 250 round ARs running around

[solid hinge]

I wish i had better words to describe BF1s gunplay but i can say I don’t think it’s even that bad honestly

Sweet spot sucks 100% agreed but the spread is manageable and if anything helps you a lot with how open the maps can be

[hasty marsh]

bullet deveation is only really bad on LMGs
Nope you have to spray with them. They have inverted bloom. The longer you shoot, the more accurate you get

[verbal bone]

And some vehicle/infantry balance in BF1 is kinda rubbish, mainly the mortar truck and some planes. But if you know your way around the game, you can counter them easily

[hasty marsh]

Sweet spot makes iron sniping viable, and the scout is far from overpowered due to the mechanic. Considering how much missing with a bolt action punishes you the idea of some 1 shot condition beyond headshots is fine, even if wonky

[verbal bone]

Forgot to say this but the spread is only really bad if you are running and gunning with it. If you mount the bipod the spread is near non existant

[solid hinge]

I guess the complaint I heard most commonly for it was it was just ‘too easy’, and yeah they’d say recon was unbalanced cause of it

[verbal bone]

But then every now and then the spread for an SLR is really weird and it kinda gets annoying

[verbal bone]

Id say its only easy for a handful of rifles, ex martini, SMLE, etc

BF1 sniping still takes some skill especially when doing really long range sniping on moving targets

Not as much as BF4 mind you but its there

[vale grail]

yeah a solid 85-90% functionality, it varies by match of course

[solid hinge]

I would agree with that, those 2 seem really punchy from my experience

[verbal bone]

I dont really see anyone using the martini too much anymore, its kinda a rare sight. Most ppl pick the higher mag capacity rifles over it

For run and gun sniping I mainly use the SMLE, Mosin nagant, and russian 1985

[verbal bone]

Mostly because they have some really short sweet spot ranges

[hasty marsh]

yeah "too easy" but compared to what? Not the other weapon types certainly. Its only too easy compared to previous game's snipers. But BF1 is set in ww1 and the bolt actions are not just sniper rifles anymore, you need to be able to dive into the shit with them. Plus the sweet spots are usually well below sniping range anyway, rarely exceeding 150m

[solid hinge]

I never thought about it that way although i totally agree

[verbal bone]

Yea, like the sweet spot for the m1903 or G98 is a lot closer in range compared to what ranges you normally use the gun

[solid hinge]

I’m guessing it’s one of those things people run with to complain about cause it’s easy, especially if they really want to find a reason to critique a game

[verbal bone]

Yea, BF1 is certainly an easier game to play compared to past BF games. But it doesnt make it a bad game whatsoever

[hasty marsh]

the 1903 has the longest sweet spot in the game too. It doesnt effect long range sniping like at all

[solid hinge]

That’s part of what makes it so engaging to me, I can actually relax and play an fps game. It just feels enjoyable all around, though that’s my own experience

And in general I feel battlefield isn’t a franchise that needs to be treated like it has to cater to the comp community as much as something like CoD

So if “bf1 casual” is their actual argument, wtf honestly

[verbal bone]

thats kind of the main critique I see regarding the game from most ppl

[solid hinge]

The skill depth in BF4 was literally like, mouzou or 313 speed control

[hasty marsh]

bf1's skill cieling is much closer to other games then people realize. Its not very different from BF4

[solid hinge]

And mouzou was just a complete headache

[solid hinge]

That’s something I used to say a lot, people complain about BF1s movement but it’s honestly very similar to BF4

[spice vortex]

It's still supported unofficially through Project Rome

[vale grail]

why must you hurt me this way

[spice vortex]

Are you a c-c-console peasant?

[uneven hollow]

Laugh at the lad

it’s all alright someday lad

[vale grail]

Because physical media and actually owning something is better than an over glorified lease that can be revoked at any time

[hasty marsh]

yeah hows that "ownership" working for ya?

[vale grail]

pretty great, I can play games from over 20 years ago even now on my GameCube, GameBoy Advance, XBox 360, PS4 and PS5

Orange Box, Halo, Battlefield, COD, Assassin's Creed, Lego Star Wars, Sniper Elite, Just Cause, not counting VR games too

Oh, force unleashed, dead island grand theft auto, army of two

[verbal bone]

yea its just an updated version of the BF4 movement

with some sliding and being able to vault over objects higher than you

its literally an upgrade from the BF4 movement, idk why ppl hate it. Sure it isnt as fast paced and intricate as BFV movement, but its smooth and noice.

[vale grail]

playing BF1 feels as close to a first person assassin's creed game as we'll get

[vale grail]

Well BFV was made to bander to the cod kids.

[hasty marsh]

Battlefield
not sure about that one

[verbal bone]

I felt kinda indifferent about BFV movement, it was okay but too zany for my taste. BF1 movement hits the spot for me

[hasty marsh]

BFV's movement is arguably too fast, to the point where it fucks with the map design

[vale grail]

Really? Bad Company 1, bad Company 2 and BF4 on the 360

[hasty marsh]

when you can very quickly vault over stuff suddenly things like walls stop having much meaning

[hasty marsh]

bad Company 2

Also wait is 4 populated on the 360?

[vale grail]

Last I checked there's still two or three servers.

[hasty marsh]

damn. Long live the king

[vale grail]

Pity Bad Company 1 and 2 were killed off, they still saw active and full lobbies

I was playing 20 player matches

and bad company 2 was killed for what, to push us into 2042's lackluster 'legacy mode' Portal?

[verbal bone]

i wouldve loved to play some BFBC2 vietnam matches

i have never played a good vietnam era shooter

[vale grail]

Same.

[vale grail]

Black Ops 1 campaign

trust me, you'll love it.

Gary Oldman's in it

[verbal bone]

yea ive played that before ofc

and a bit of the MP

But i yearn for a large scale vietnam FPS game on console

shame burning lands imploded

[solid hinge]

In my opinion it’s good except for back prone and the slide

[hasty marsh]

Its got cool stuff its just too fast all around

[vale grail]

fitting, given its name

[bronze ice]

Best mode to play

[tight rain]

Conquest

[zinc snow]

Rambo mode w/ tanks

[bronze ice]

Where tht?

[zinc snow]

Conquest

[zinc snow]

Only thing better is Rambo-ing with the shot gun

[neat moth]

How does people get 3 shot Fliegerfaust?

[uneven hollow]

ammo

[scenic elm]

if you get ammo from an ammo box or ammo station you get 3 volleys of the fliegerfaust

[neat moth]

oh thanks, Imma force my friend to play support 😂

[scenic elm]

not needed, most of the time when you respawn you can grab some extra ammo from the ammo station on the point

but you could do a Funny AA squad of guys with fliger fausts and a support with AA ammo MG42

[neat moth]

I noticed the mmg AA ammo, does it hurt a lot?

[scenic elm]

the AA ammo upgrade on the MG42 makes it do 2x damage against aircraft based of what it says in the game

so if you would be crazy enoght to do this in game you would take the 250 round belt with it

[neat moth]

seems like from 1 damage to 2 damage, I have no levels in mmgs, maybe I'll farm it up and take a try

[scenic elm]

it's because of damage drop off

at close range it accualy does allot of damage

problem is that the Effective range against aircraft is so small

it's a meme

accualy trying to shoot down aircraft with an MMG

so at best the guy on the MMG would be doing a little bit of chip damage to the aircraft

maybe finishing it off after a fligerfaust left it with low hp

[neat moth]

or camp the airport

[scenic elm]

put landmines on the exact location the airplane spawn in

[granite wyvern]

Use a Bazooka

[buoyant ice]

Just a question

Are the in the name of the tsar dlc maps in the basic map rotation in bf1

[granite wyvern]

It’s sublime imho

Best movement I’ve known in a FPS

[buoyant ice]

Bf5 is majestical such a shame the soviets got cut

[granite wyvern]

Yep (hard to believe they have supported that sack of shit 2042 for longer than they did BFV).

[cerulean mantle]

What is the name of the background music in the Season 7 trailer?

[granite wyvern]

Although I have just gone past 90,000 deaths in the game - I still love it

[tight rain]

That honestly not a bad idea

[hasty marsh]

thats a hard sell when games like team fortress exist

[hasty marsh]

Yknow Ive seen people say this time and time again but do we actually know they were working on the russians?

[granite wyvern]

Not played that - is it on console?

[hasty marsh]

yes but no. Noone really plays the console version and the movement does not work well with a controller

[hasty marsh]

https://youtu.be/GAEOiIF8Piw?si=lSAFF55S9z7XH7xb&t=51

movement ^

[solid hinge]

I’m not sure actually. While there was datamined weapons and stuff, there’s guns and skins for factions that aren’t in the game that you can buy

[granite wyvern]

Yeah but that move makes it like he’s on the moon - that’s too much (even for me).

[hasty marsh]

It takes a lot of skill and practice to pull of what he's doing. TF2 is the last active game to have the old art of rocket jumping

Everything there isnt jumping, its momentum from an explosion. You dont feel like youre on the moon, you feel like your flying

[livid bay]

If you like fast paced then titanfall is supreme

[hasty marsh]

Also a source engine game. The engine has peak movement

[livid bay]

Kinda ironic that the two games with really good movement are both run on source and are both called tf2

[tight rain]

New conspiracy just dropped

[hasty marsh]

(and both have been evicerated by automated hackers)

[livid bay]

And both franchises were cursed by source’s curse of 3

[hasty marsh]

niether needs a sequel, frankly. EA would likely bastardize a titanfall 3

[livid bay]

New ea, yea. Ea back when we should’ve gotten one, nah

[hasty marsh]

what the fuck do you mean by new EA, theyve been shitters for decades

[livid bay]

Or well, new respawn. Old respawn actually somewhat cared about titanfall

Ea’s always been money-first yet allergic to money at the same time

[scenic elm]

All that People found at the time was some concept art and a render of a PPSH of some former dice guy that worked at the time of the PPSHs creation. + the few data minned guns

[hasty marsh]

thats it?
Even after the game launched with finnish and chinese and french and italian guns?

lol

[scenic elm]

But that was enoght evidence for allot of dudes

[scenic elm]

Also , Chinese ?

[hasty marsh]

the only nation that really used the KE7 in the war

though IK its not a domestic weapon

[scenic elm]

Fair enoght then

[hasty marsh]

oh yeah Norway also

[verbal bone]

some are depending on the gamemode

You can get Lupkow on shock ops

we really need more ppl filling up the mixed conquest lobbies for BF1. Everyone just plays the standard base game conquest only and its annoying

I wanna play albion dammit

[buoyant ice]

Same

I want to play on the dlc maps

But it’s just the base conquest maps I can find

[hasty marsh]

On PC there are usually all map servers in the browser

[junior torrent]

"usually"

[hasty marsh]

yes usually, as in most times i have booted it up

same with bf4

[junior torrent]

Yeah? Ever joined a lobby that has carrier assault

At least 32 players

[hasty marsh]

I just play conquest. Dont care about CA

[junior torrent]

Man

You're boring

[hasty marsh]

and since this guy is playing bf1 ITNOTT he definitley isnt going for the dlc modes.

[junior torrent]

You wasted your time and money

If you already bought the full edition

[hasty marsh]

dont care about the gimmick conquest variant m8.

[junior torrent]

Whatever

That's my main complaint with the community

Never cared about other maps and modes

[hasty marsh]

90% of the time the mode is either a conquest variant or some tdm sized nonsense

Its just not what Im booting up the game for

[junior torrent]

VU absolved my problems with bf3

And soon, WR will do the same for 4

[granite wyvern]

Maybe, but not my kind of shit

[hasty marsh]

your loss

[granite wyvern]

Not really, it’s just not my thing

[solid hinge]

I only tried tf2 once but because of a friend

[granite wyvern]

I’m curious Nutter. Are you a good BF player?

[hasty marsh]

Im decent. Usually go positive unless Im fucking around. Focus on infantry. Why?

[granite wyvern]

Like to understand the calibre of player I’m debating with

[hasty marsh]

debate? I just said its your loss if you dont try tf2

[granite wyvern]

You’ve been stating BFV is rubbish for a while

[hasty marsh]

cause I think its rubbish. You have a problem with that?

[granite wyvern]

Just not sure a ‘usually goes positive’ player is someone who’s view I should take seriously

[hasty marsh]

I mean, if you need an excuse to dismiss my opinion, go ahead. If it helps you sleep at night who am I to stop you

Generally though Im not gonna master a game I think is rubbish

[uneven hollow]

Casual tf2 moment

[hasty marsh]

Im usually on comm servers for that, unless Im trying some stupid shit and need to play with morons for the bit to work

[sturdy osprey]

Poop

[agile marsh]

anyone have an idea of fixing my problem i been using spectrum for years then all of a sudden since last decvember i been having packet loss when i join servers even in east cost servers im american i get the packet loss icon when im playing and it comes up red with latency icon when match is over i cant play with this i upgraded my wifi im using ethernet im about to throw in the towel for gaming in general i had a technician from spectrum come in today did a thorough investigation and he said everything is clean no packet loss on my end i called sony they told me to use dns 208,67,222,222 and nothing still

[neat moth]

Can you call airstrike from a plane in V?

[neat moth]

And by the way how can my friends spot infantries/tanks for me? I played 2042 fist and spotting was easy as a button (too easy tho).

[granite wyvern]

You mean like a V1?

[neat moth]

I mean Battlefield V, call airstrike as a pilot. Oh yeah it's the V1 rocket, or artillery.

[granite wyvern]

You can’t launch them whilst in vehicles

Squad leader needs to be infantry really

[scenic elm]

you would have to jump out of the airplane, quickly call it in and then jump back in the airplane

so it's pretty much impossible

[neat moth]

So I guess using a phone while driving is prohibited. Anyway how can my friends spot tanks/infantries for me? We are new BFV players.

[granite wyvern]

Well I don’t fly but you can use flares yourself. Your squad mates can ping enemies (one at a time) but spot will not follow enemy if moves. Recon have flares and other spotting gadgets available to them. Other than that suppress firing on enemy will spot them.

[buoyant ice]

How does a 1000ib bomb not a kill tank on a direct hit

73% 🤓 - bf5

[limber bough]

Because realism doesn't matter

[neat moth]

Finish it with the plane itself.

[buoyant ice]

Unfortunately that does no damage 😔

[granite wyvern]

Not a direct hit?

[buoyant ice]

Well I didn’t ask that did I

[granite wyvern]

Maybe you were mistaken

[scenic elm]

imagine if you did not need a direct hit with the big bombs to kill a full hp tank

that would be even worse then it ready is

all ready some pilots after you shoot them down ONCE will kamikaze you for no reason

And usualy fail

[buoyant ice]

Most definitely direct

[scenic elm]

a direct bomb is a one hit kill

[buoyant ice]

Times when I hit the tank right next to it was around 56 damage

[scenic elm]

also depends on what tank because they have different health pools

if you do 56 damage to a light tank then that was a clear miss

probably after a few dozen hours if you become a pilot main you will realize that rockets are just better because you don't need to expose your self to enemy fire lol

and you can do around 80 damage to a medium tank by just spaming rockets at it from beyond effective AA gun range

[buoyant ice]

I was actually using rockets in the p51 in the game prior

Really fun

[scenic elm]

yea everyone loves being bombed on the bridge on twisted steel by an aircraft that can easily doge all ground fire

such fun

[buoyant ice]

I like to do bombing runs with the ju88 on the bride

[scenic elm]

well then unleast your easy to shoot down

lol

all things considered, all the AA weapons are good only if the enemy aircraft is using bombs because they get in to effective range

while rockets can be fired far beyond the Max damage range of AA weapons

• it's much harder to hit an aircraft that far away

• for some reason the japanese 75mm AA/AT gun has a tendency to hit rockets that are being fired at it and not accualy hit the enemy aircraft

Rockets OP dice nerf plz

[buoyant ice]

Little late for nerfs now

Boy do I love people camping runways

[broken pagoda]

BF5 anyone ?

[solid carbon]

Doing that on hamada made players really angry

[scenic elm]

Its more practical on wake Island as USA

You get a bazooka and camp

[solid carbon]

Spawnkilling bombers with the panzerfaust sounds better to me

[scenic elm]

Real men spawn camp aircraft with the AT Stick

[tight rain]

https://tenor.com/view/gentleman-giga-chad-sigma-male-gif-25702945

[tranquil heart]

flieger

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

📍 Atacama desert, Chile

Face the heat of the #Battlefield and fight for Earth’s most valuable resource in door-to-door suburban combat.

Jump into Haven for intense, gritty battles on March 19!

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Mar 14, 2024, 4:00 PM

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Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

Discover Haven, one of two upcoming maps for Season 7: Turning Point on #Battlefield2042 in our latest Dev Notes

We unpack how this location came to be, what direction the team wanted to go in after Redacted, and more

@​BrokenMachine joins us to give you an early look at the map and answer some questions with the Dev Team.

https://go.ea.com/BF2042-DevNotes-Haven

𝕏 · Mar 14, 2024, 4:03 PM

[granite wyvern]

My Facebook BFV XBox group has just hit 2,500 members (not bad considering I did not start it until after 2042 came out),

[naive oasis]

what are y’all’s average accuracy stats with infantry rifles in bf1? mine is like 30% after the last couple years of using them almost exclusively

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

Your Update Notes for #Battlefield2042 Season 7: Turning Point is on the way tomorrow!

But let's begin today, by sharing our Dev Notes from the Weapons & Vehicles Teams on where their areas of focus are for Update 7.0.0.

🧵Learn more details in the thread!

𝕏 · Mar 14, 2024, 7:09 PM

[paper locust]

How to enjoy life:
step 1. go to youtube and play battlefield 4 theme
step 2. crank the volume up
step 3. ascend
step 4. break down and cry as you realize those days are gone

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

#Battlefield 2042 - Season 7 is right around the corner ⏰

Play on Haven and Stadium, master new weapons and knock down 100 Battle Pass tiers on the way.

Hold nothing back on March 19 📅

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Mar 14, 2024, 9:03 PM

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[vale grail]

especially since for whatever reason there's only privately rented servers left (on psn at least) where any official servers are missing.

[crimson ember]

Since yesterday when I try to launch Battlefield 3 from EA APP every time I load Battlelog, which has the message "Wrong email or password". I've been playing for many months before, and I didn't have that error. I have to log in manually and so often Battlelog throws errors preventing me from joining the online game and I have to restart my computer several times. Can someone help me and explain what's going on and how to fix it?

[midnight mesa]

Steam has a pretty big sale and I was thinking of buying a new bf game. Which would you recommend bfV or bf2042?

Or perhaps bf3 that is also and option.

[frigid veldt]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

In our final Dev Notes ahead of our Update Notes going live tomorrow for #Battlefield2042 Season 7: Turning Point

It's now time to hand things over to the Vehicles Team to relay what they're doing for 7.0.0.

🧵Get a glimpse in the thread below!

𝕏 · Mar 14, 2024, 9:55 PM

[paper locust]

lmao BF3 is dead

I would recommend BF2042 but you should get some other opinions

BF1 is also an option

[midnight mesa]

i already played the living hell out of bf4 and 1

[paper locust]

ah

[midnight mesa]

lookin for something different

and bf is probably the game franchise i enjoy the most rn

[paper locust]

hmm

[midnight mesa]

i mean bf2042 looks hella different from a normal bf game

but is it a good different?

[paper locust]

yeah BFV is just a WWII game

I've played it these past few months and I'm suprisingly enjoying it

a lot of the maps do suck though

If you get a match on spearhead or orbital though you might have the time of your life

[midnight mesa]

honestly ive always found 2-3 maps and only played them

like i play sinmai desert on bf1 the most

[paper locust]

well there's no server browser

sorry

[midnight mesa]

in bfV??