#battlefield-legacy-titles

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scenic elm
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or you set up a server and ask people on here or on steam (if your on PC)

river helm
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Thanks for the tips though much appreciated! Your a legend

scenic elm
river helm
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Lol

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Made you

scenic elm
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what operations have frontlines

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it's allways on the third day/round

river helm
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Thanks again!

scenic elm
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returning to here, the STG44 is the worst assault rifle in the BFV meta

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it's still good

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but it's the worst

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the VolksturmGewer 1-5 is the best assault rifle, it's the STG44 but better in every way, except the recoil is worse

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and also the best semi auto carbine for assault if your using the semi auto version of the VG 1-5

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the G43 and M1 garand are the best semi auto rifles

scenic elm
smoky glen
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just wanted to play bf1 on pc again after a while and it said my cloud data was corrupted now i cant load into online

stable vessel
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if they remove thermals from bf4 it would instantly be 5 times more enjoyable

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i love it when tanks and people can spot me 400m away in a sandstorm where i cant see 20 feet infront of me

vale grail
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Fortifications are nice but I meant the main three things BFV did to improve upon the gameplay that wasn't just a cut feature from BF1, the trench system was meant to be added to BF1.

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Well keep in mind the perks/specializations were also in BF4, but in 1 they were more useful, such as the suppression reductions for support, the explosive reductions for assault, the 'spot squad mate for smoke' with medic. They're a PAIN to unlock but once you've gotten them, they really add a lot of new gameplay replay value to BF1.

solid hinge
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I agree I just don’t have as good of an experience with V that I do with 1, 1 has a lot more maps that also vary differently in terrain and gameplay and a lot of content to play around with (I find myself changing my loadouts just to use the proper factions guns for instance), I have my personal points that I think explain why I don’t get into V as much

vale grail
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platform?

solid hinge
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realised i was banned i later brought btf5 on a diff steam and had to link tht to another ea acc no wonder i had no online ( i havnt loggd in since 2020)

blazing lion
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Hey guys im asking if anyone knows how to get the Peacekeeper in bf1 and would be willing to spend some time helping me unlock it. if anybody knows please PM me i'd really appreciate it!

granite wyvern
scenic elm
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but it was cut apparently (correct me if im wrong because it was a long time ago so i might be miss remembering things)

granite wyvern
vale grail
scenic elm
vale grail
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Imagine you could build and dig your own trenches in BF1

scenic elm
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but it could be that dice took that cut idea and expanded it into the fortification system

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who knows

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unless some one get's the desgine documentation or a dev confirms it there is no way to know

pallid walrus
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Anyone else having trouble matchmaking?

junior torrent
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Don't use quick match

little lava
frigid veldtBOT
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Thanks for your patience!

solar nexus
solid hinge
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They had the ability to test 128/256 over 10 years ago? Damn

solar nexus
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I hope they don't bring 256 players in the next BF5, instead overhaul the destruction

solid hinge
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Do you think the next title can have good destruction with 128p

solar nexus
solid hinge
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In my opinion BFV had really hit or miss conquest map design that is eerily reminiscent of complaints to 2042, in some cases BF1 but I don’t believe BF1s case is as bad due to how gunplay works in that game

solar nexus
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Vince Zampella said DICE didn't pay attention to what makes the game fun, instead dice was ambitious about the 128 players, large maps

solid hinge
# solar nexus If they drop the last gen

Some people say last gen is just holding back game design at this point, I’m sympathetic to those who still wanna play games who can’t/haven’t upgraded yet but they’re playing on 11 yr old hardware when optimization efforts/game design could cater to pushing modern techs capabilities instead

tight rain
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Fuck them poors

solar nexus
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Take full advantage of the next gen, like GTA 6 is doing

tight rain
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Now that I have the latest gen console it’s time to drop them leo

solid hinge
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I agree to drop them too tbh

solar nexus
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Take advantage of the latest pc hardware and techs like DLSS 3, FSR3

solid hinge
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I mean if this was 2020/2021 and maybe 2022 ok fine keep them

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But Jesus

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I hope the next battlefield is essentially a soft series reboot that’s styled like bf3/4 MAYBE with 128

solar nexus
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Also Sony is gonna bundle GTA 6 with ps5 pro, if the rumors are true

solid hinge
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Jesus

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Idk if I will upgrade to ps5 pro or not

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Because at that point I may just want to save up for a pc

solar nexus
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Pc is a safer bet

tight rain
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Aye get a pc

solid hinge
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I shall get pc

tight rain
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Not limited to Sony that way

solid hinge
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The only problem is cheaters are so bad on pc, especially CoD/battlefield

tight rain
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Aye that’s true

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To be fair crossplay makes consoles have the same issue

solid hinge
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Honestly true

solar nexus
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If they keep 128p players, with smaller maps in the next battlefield. They would be able to add great destruction. Pretty much Nobody is really thrilled about the large maps

tight rain
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And you ain’t finding people on 2042 without crossplay on

solar nexus
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Large maps aren't necessarily fun

solid hinge
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I personally want them to go back to bf1s conquest map design

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Templates are linear but leave room for flankers

solar nexus
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We need bf1's atmosphere in the next battlefield

solid hinge
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And gunplay is very extreme so I’m not saying exactly bf1s gunplay should return. But in any case there needs to be appropriate range restrictions/incentives for each weapon type that way there’s flow balance

wary sigil
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Absolutely NOT 128p

solid hinge
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Give 128

wary sigil
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maybe make a dedicated 128p mode but it should by no means be the focus

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stick to 64

solid hinge
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give

solar nexus
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Do we even know whether the next battlefield will be based on the future or past like cold war?

solid hinge
wary sigil
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With the info that we have rn? seems modern

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i would not rule it out being a full reboot kinda like MW19 was

solar nexus
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Single player is coming in the next battlefield

solid hinge
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A full reboot is imo a better move for PR

wary sigil
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Start with a modern rebooted title

solid hinge
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Don’t continue the same naming convention actually try to make it seem like it’s a soft reboot

wary sigil
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build from there

solid hinge
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Ye

solar nexus
wary sigil
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it's been like a full year since the cringe voicelines were ingame dude

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move on

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holy hell

solar nexus
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War games are becoming more kids friendly

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More Fortnite like

wary sigil
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I get it, Bf2042 launch was a complete catastrophe but it was 2 years ago, the game has changed enough since then to be slightly less negative

solid hinge
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Battlefields been kinda continuing on the same path for the franchises entire life, obviously there’s been massive changes like Frostbite 3 being introduced but never efforts to truly reboot or make an experience that’s fully focused on what players want and not doing something new every time

tight rain
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Gimme nam

wary sigil
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No please

solid hinge
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Nam give nam

tight rain
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I want an m16a1 damnit

solar nexus
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Remake battlefield Vietnam

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Give us Battlefield Cold War

wary sigil
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cod 2024......

tight rain
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Goddamn dell actually has a half decent idea for once

wary sigil
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I want a proper modern title

solar nexus
wary sigil
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God MWIII is so ass

solid hinge
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CoD gameplay would be fine and fun but their sbmm needs to change, and apparently activision admits it’s too strong rn

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Which it wouldn’t take a genius to realize but

wary sigil
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And all the other modern fps games are hardcore milsim dying simulators operation something something tactical

wanton ether
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Hello, I'm Brazilian and I'm looking to answer a question, I wanted to know if the Battlefield 1 promotion has to be paid per month or is the game permanent?

tight rain
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Game permanent

cunning light
wary sigil
solid hinge
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I see

wary sigil
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it's such a doomposting central like holy shit

solid hinge
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I like how it’s “maybe think” BlackHole_Laugh

wary sigil
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yeah do not preorder

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that's a standard rule

cunning light
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people still living in 2021 in 2024

tight rain
wanton ether
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Which promotion do I have to pay for for permanent pickup? There's an evolution and there's normal, so to speak, I don't really understand

wary sigil
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But people say "franchise is dead forever and nothing will change all is doomed and we will all die..... battlefield has fallen..... billions must rendezook.............."

cunning light
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they are both permanent

solid hinge
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i'm mad, i have 7 something hours in bfv and about an hour or so in bf1 and only NOW has the game started lagging and showing issues, i was playing both with low settings no issues and only when i got on a few hours later did it start to lag, same with bf1, it just started lagging, i can't refund either game even if i wanted to so that's out of the question regardless

wary sigil
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I honestly think that Dice has it really easy to just make 2025 a good game

torpid mirage
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Hello

wary sigil
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And i kinda have faith in them

solid hinge
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The pre 2042 launch bfd doomposting

wanton ether
wary sigil
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they've shown they learned

solid hinge
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That was quite the time

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“NAH BRO ITS ABANDON SHIP IF THIS SUCKS”

wary sigil
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tbf

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2042 launch era was actually depressing

solid hinge
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Indeed

solid hinge
torpid mirage
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Bro BFV playstation community games on NA are basically non-existent

wary sigil
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2042 was like the most hyped game of the year and it crashed badly

torpid mirage
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Literally waiting like 20 minutes and no one has still joined my game leo

cunning light
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they have the template to make a easy game.. that many have been a disaster at launch

solid hinge
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I miss communities ever since I switched to ps5 I have been isolated from them CursedCat

cunning light
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it's easier to get right than wrong

wary sigil
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Speaking of

torpid mirage
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I created a melee only community game leo

wary sigil
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What do you guys think "reimagination of the franchise" means

torpid mirage
cunning light
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easy answer they mean a battlefield universe

solid hinge
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Oh shit you mean in game community servers not the community tab function from ps4?

torpid mirage
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I just really want fortifactions in the next BF!

wanton ether
cunning light
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buy whatever you want

solid hinge
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Which is all I was really concerned about that meaning

wary sigil
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Because im 99% sure it means they're adopting the CoD HQ system and "connected experiences", so one game platform in a single launcher

cunning light
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yes it is

torpid mirage
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Imagine a game in where you just build fortifications

wanton ether
cunning light
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they hired activision GM's precisely for it

wary sigil
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the way they have worded it in the past everything implies 2025 will be split into 3 components

cunning light
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it's already in the games anyways it's not a new thing

wary sigil
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SP, MP and a 3rd mode

cunning light
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not 3 components

torpid mirage
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Which map in BFV has the best fortifications?

cunning light
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it's 3 projects

torpid mirage
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I would say Arras

solid hinge
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Whichever ones let me build funny at guns

wary sigil
cunning light
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no

cunning light
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the projects are independent

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that's why they're being done by different studios

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are they in the same game? we don't know

torpid mirage
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I have an idea for outpost fortifications leo (the structure not the gamemode!)

wary sigil
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I hate to say this but im not counting on specialists being completely gone

solid hinge
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shit

cunning light
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they are gone lol

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it's not a question

solid hinge
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Ah thank god

torpid mirage
wary sigil
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didn't they say that players "didn't understand the specialist system"

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and implied they were gonna do it again

cunning light
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no

wary sigil
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Did i misread

cunning light
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that's just players being morons and not reading the actual contents

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as per usual tldr

torpid mirage
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Planes in BFV kinda powerful ngl

wary sigil
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They wont be missed ngl

cunning light
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the interview was talking about the design context it had nothing to do with what people were saying

torpid mirage
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Literally massacring my team

cunning light
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DICE have already said numerous times they would have removed them from 2042 but couldn't because they were already in the game this paranoia the playerbase has is wild

torpid mirage
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Fligerfaust!

wary sigil
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I know this is such a CoD thing but i want a proper gunsmith in Battlefield :>

solid hinge
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I mean imo that would be a good thing for them to replicate

wary sigil
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I think the weapon families thing from MW2 would be a nice concept to implement into BF

solid hinge
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I’ve been wanting it as well, CoD customization was always better and the mw reboot gunsmiths having a lot of attachments is icing on the cake

wary sigil
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combined with the class system

cunning light
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it's not a cod thing it was in 4

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just by a different name

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put a label on something that already exists and people think it's different

torpid mirage
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Imagine a Battlefield game with BFV movement, gunplay, gun customization, and fortifactions. It would also have BF1 atmosphere, immersion, DLC quality, Operations, those little achievements that tell u neat stuff about the war, and behemoths. How would that sound?

wary sigil
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So you could like level up the AR 15 in the assault class while using the SR 25 in recon or something

wary sigil
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BF1 atmosphere

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careful with that

cunning light
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this better not be in the next game

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it's a asinine form of weapon progression

solid hinge
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I don’t know why people want bfv gunplay so badly, it can be just as aggressive with mechanics as older titles from my experience

wary sigil
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BF1 has dope atmosphere sure but it's strictly WW1

torpid mirage
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Why does everyone obess over underground maps?

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Ngl they don't really feel 'battlefield' like

solid hinge
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It’s not tbh, CoD WaW did great with similar aesthetics for WW2

cunning light
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people conflate both

torpid mirage
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I swear BFV is like a drug to me

wary sigil
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One shot sniping without headshots Y/N

torpid mirage
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They could really make a entire PVE game over fortifications

solid hinge
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Only in 10(?) meters like last games

cunning light
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fortifications isn't coming back lol

torpid mirage
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Like imagine building fortifications for ur ai team and then watching their performance in battle

cunning light
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no

torpid mirage
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Was BFV attrition done well?

solid hinge
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I hate it as a mechanic personally

cunning light
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no it's a ass mechanic

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just systems designed to get in player's way because "realism" etc bullshit

torpid mirage
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Every Battlefield Breakthrough game I've seen so far is literally the attackers holding one point at a time and then losing that point when they capture the other point

solid hinge
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It just feels too punishing, and since there’s a lot of things going on in your average battlefield match it can bog everything down

wary sigil
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fuck

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realism

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god

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im so over the obession with realism and milsim shit

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No that doesn't mean all games should be wacky fornite slop

cunning light
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fortifications is also a gimmick feature that did absolutely nothing to the actual map but because it was set in it's time people vastly overstated their uses

wary sigil
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There's a middle ground

solid hinge
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Realism is fine when it’s certain design aspects imo, like dynamic reload animations or the current CoD MW animation system in general

wary sigil
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yeah

solid hinge
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As far as mechanics that affect say hp I agree

torpid mirage
# wary sigil realism

Me when Battlefield 6 has Permadeath mechanics, logistics, gun jamming, and shell shock HUHDOG HUHDOG HUHDOG

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Someone should make that as a troll game

wary sigil
cunning light
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the more people want features that are anti-game such as limited ammo for vehicles the more they're not playing a game anymore

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they're wanting a movie

wary sigil
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Okay tbf

torpid mirage
wary sigil
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what about uhh fuel

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WZ2 kinda did that?

cunning light
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no it's a dumb mechanic all round

torpid mirage
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Tanks freaking camping supply stations are anathema

wary sigil
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nvm not in AOW

solid hinge
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On the slightly bright side supply stations all have an exploding can next to them

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I find it funny how they’re built with that thing there just so you can shoot to blow them up lmao

cunning light
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anything that interferes with a player's choice ability as a unnecessary hindrance is backwards of fun and why 5's mechanics were asinine

torpid mirage
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I once saw a Pacific Storm game in spector mode, the attackers couldn't even get past 1st sector because all of the tanks were legit just camping on the small islands ahead of the main one

solid hinge
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5 had a few good things imo, I personally liked fortifications as well as some of the movement mechanics but that’s it honestly

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Back prone….. idk wether I want to hate it or not

torpid mirage
cunning light
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it's the only game of its kind which illustrates the time of what it's trying to portray well

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the others don't encapsulate it

solid hinge
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Reinforcements, fortifications, 99%(CursedCat) of the movement, that’s it

cunning light
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it as a game though, pretty mediocre

torpid mirage
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Ngl bfv's plane skill ceiling is high

solid hinge
cunning light
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war stories was a ass attempt at trying to tell some elaborate story that didn't exist because they felt the need to add a pseudo campaign and the games balancing through it's support was one of the worst of all time

torpid mirage
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In BFV

cunning light
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yeah that too

torpid mirage
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It's BATTLEFIELD, not Hitman!

cunning light
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they had to or there's no point to the stories and why it sucked

solid hinge
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I liked bf1 war stories but I’m generally a shill for that game anyways so CursedCat

torpid mirage
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Let me feel powerful in my tank for God's sake! HUHDOG

solid hinge
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Although I deadass have never completed the Arabian war story because the stealth mission

torpid mirage
solid hinge
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True

torpid mirage
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The plane and the tank missions come to mind

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Like holy crap how did War Stories become Hitman games!?

cunning light
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something something you need to go into 3 villages for some reason we thought sounded good to blow up a train that just so happens to be going at the same time you're done

solid hinge
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I think a full campaign is still important for FPS games tbh

torpid mirage
wary sigil
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thats lame

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BF can absolutely tell a story

torpid mirage
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Like one mission the game says "take this point" and then you and a bunch of ai dudes go attack it

wary sigil
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for some reason it choses not to

cunning light
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we know why they done it and it's cause the other campaigns were awful but yeah they're important

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cheesy gimmick stories that make no sense

junior torrent
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What's his point

solid hinge
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Introduce the brudda to VU

cunning light
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3 and 4 are the worst examples of dumb stories

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people think mw3 is bad too

solid hinge
wary sigil
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mw3 is fucking garbage

cunning light
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mw3 is bad, battlefield 3, is terrible

torpid mirage
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I wonder if BFV will last for so long that we'll get a truce on WW2's anniversary like BF1 in 2018

wary sigil
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MWII's campaign is as coherent as the 2007 transformers movie but the thing about it is that the gameplay is fun

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and the characters are entertaining

solid hinge
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MW3 is a funny game because the campaign is absolutely garbage and the multiplayer is probably the best designed version out of any CoD we’ve had since 2019

cunning light
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battlefield 3 has a shit story and it's gameplay is boring aswell so

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enjoy the worst of both worlds

wary sigil
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rip

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Deco, what would you say it's the best BF title

torpid mirage
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It's been a freaking hour and my PS4 BFV Melee-only community game has not gotten a single player leo leo leo

cunning light
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in terms of what component

wary sigil
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overall, if not then MP

cunning light
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has to be 4, for now, with time it will be 2042

solid hinge
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4 and 1 on top for me

torpid mirage
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BFV Medics got stuck with just SMGs and a couple of Carbines

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Also reviving is cool

cunning light
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3 would be second best but suppression is a atrocious probably actually the worst mechanic battlefield has ever implemented

junior torrent
cunning light
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I'm not exaggerating

torpid mirage
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I once had an epic game on AL Marj encampment in where I played as medic and healed like everyone

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I also got thanks in chat!

wary sigil
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im gonna admit im rather new to FPS titles

torpid mirage
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Breakthrough Attackers

wary sigil
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started in 2019 cause i didn't really have a proper PC before then

cunning light
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if you want a "proper" experience then it has to be 4, though 2042 will take that title by the time it's support has ended

torpid mirage
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Is Fligerflaust good in BFV?

wary sigil
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I did play BF4, the Halo games and BO2 before but those are the only fps games before 2018

cunning light
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it's already half way there

wary sigil
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But if i can say something

torpid mirage
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I honestly wonder why BFV allows friendlies to destory their own supply stations

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Opens up the game to trolls

wary sigil
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I think what MWII did in general was pretty decent and i would not be that opposed to BF looking at that game for inspiration (not as a copy), that's my hot take of the day

solid hinge
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Perhaps for sabotage in a way, if a team has to retreat off an objective

solid hinge
wary sigil
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cause if BF wants to look at what whatever cod does for inspiration

cunning light
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it's not a awful idea, it just doesn't work well

wary sigil
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then at least look at the one title that tried to be different and push foward

torpid mirage
solid hinge
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I didn’t hate MW2s gunplay beyond how it worked in the beta and the attachment balancing

torpid mirage
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Or those who are too bad at the game so they hinder their own team on purpose

cunning light
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the issue with cod and battlefield is the market appeal is very different, trying to do a mw2 system would fundamentally change the nature of the franchise

wary sigil
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the attachment balancing was so bad

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unreasonably bad

cunning light
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it's why battlefield doesn't have sbmm, cod does, etc etc, different targets for why people play each franchise

solid hinge
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It was so easy to hate on it but that shit finally made cod guns feel real lol

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It was fun all around but a lot of the other design aspects ruined the game

wary sigil
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the gun balance and gunplay itself were pretty good though, movement was okay except for that jump penalty

solid hinge
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Yep, removing bunnyhops was dumb for sure

wary sigil
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ttk was a non issue, i'd take that over MWIII's RNG ttk

torpid mirage
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I hate mortar trucks in BF1 ngl

wary sigil
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aight no, MWIII's issue is it's hideous hitreg and netcode

torpid mirage
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They take up valuable tank space

cunning light
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there are multi year "realism" mods which are the closest thing to a mw2 system that have been done for the older games, based on the number of people who play them, we know how well trying to morph mw2 over to this would go

solid hinge
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I’m mixed on MW3s ttk, changes were absolutely important but there are frustrating moments where you obviously would’ve got a kill in previous games or something

torpid mirage
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Fligerfaust vs plane

cunning light
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I can't stand mw3 had to refund it immediately

solid hinge
torpid mirage
cunning light
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I didn't pre order lol

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I bought it last week

torpid mirage
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Pre-order is just monetary suicide when it comes to AAA games

wary sigil
cunning light
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it's the asinine skill based matchmaking

wary sigil
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the matchmaking is so artificially annoying

torpid mirage
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I hate Cronus users HUHDOG

cunning light
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I don't have the patience for this bs

wary sigil
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it nullifies any good mechanics the game might have

torpid mirage
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Not even console is safe from cheating!

solid hinge
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I haven’t been playing it recently because even if I get a decent match through sbmm, the snipers are genuinely so awfully balanced right now

torpid mirage
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Damn cheaters! HUHDOG HUHDOG HUHDOG

junior torrent
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I recently bought mw19

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If anyone cares to know

solid hinge
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I kinda miss mw19

wary sigil
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movement is solid but a bit too fast and the tac stance thing is actually a banger mechanic

cunning light
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2 games in and immediately going against professional players who have every tiny piece of knowledge about spawn locations and every gun in the game it's insufferable

solid hinge
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But I don’t play it anymore because it doesn’t include a FOV slider for console players

junior torrent
solid hinge
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Yes

torpid mirage
junior torrent
wary sigil
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but balance, matchmaking, hitreg, netcode, gunplay, the zombies mode, all of the campaign is hideous

cunning light
wary sigil
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BF doesn't have sbmm doesn't it?

cunning light
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none of the games do

torpid mirage
cunning light
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it has a team balancer, that's all

solid hinge
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Gunplay is kinda boring in MW3, I like some of the guns themselves but when they’re all lasers what’s the point

wary sigil
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skill based team balancing makes sense

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EOMM doesn't

cunning light
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it isn't even that

torpid mirage
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BfV planes are practically inaccessible at this point

cunning light
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it isn't predetermined, it's when you enter the server

torpid mirage
wary sigil
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mostly

cunning light
wary sigil
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it's really supossed to keep players playing the game for longer which increases the chances of them buying stuff at the store

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specially extremely casual players

cunning light
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^

wary sigil
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children.

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basically

torpid mirage
#

What BF game is the deadest? (Don't say 2042, we already know!)

junior torrent
#

I honestly don't get why they downgrade the bots

wary sigil
#

2042 is hardly dead

cunning light
torpid mirage
solid hinge
#

Technically the only dead battlefield games are bc2 and older, and hardline

cunning light
#

idk how people don't remember the bots were indistinguishable from players at launch

torpid mirage
#

Bro when will they add hunger in BFV 2.0 HUHDOG HUHDOG /j

solid hinge
junior torrent
#

You get me Levi?

torpid mirage
#

Where is my hyper-realisitc death mechanics in BFV 2.0 HUHDOG HUHDOG /j

solid hinge
wary sigil
#

the cost of cod's matchmaking is that any player who is like... slightly above average or good will get punished by the matchmaking system and be thrown into a pit together, that's why cod is so sweaty.

junior torrent
#

I want to see them use drones

wary sigil
#

MW19 is both excellent and terrible at the same time

junior torrent
#

Call in hind

torpid mirage
junior torrent
#

And even deploy juggernaut

solid hinge
wary sigil
#

i did

solid hinge
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The sbmm can’t be as picky if more people are in the session from what I heard

wary sigil
#

still got fucked over by the matchmaking

torpid mirage
#

Guys why is there no malaria in BFV /j

cunning light
cunning light
#

so it will always bias that

wary sigil
#

until WZ

torpid mirage
#

Thank God Dice never decided to go the COD comestic route

cunning light
#

they exist to make money that's all

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and cod works for that

junior torrent
#

We can agree mw19 was the least silliest modern cod game

wary sigil
#

1.31 in MWIII, i get 2-4 games where i do good, the rest i get slammed by 2.0+ kd creatures

junior torrent
#

Compared to the sequels

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Eh

solid hinge
#

Somehow I’m at 1.61 kd or something in mw3

torpid mirage
#

Why isnt the radio tower on Pacific Storm destroyable?

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/arbjwk

cunning light
#

like a lot of things it's not a good thing for everything to be destroyable

solid hinge
torpid mirage
#

COD should have never named the secondary trilogy as the same as the og, now it makes searching a lot harder

cunning light
#

aim assist is also absurd in mw3 but somehow the matchmaking is that terrible it's never mentioned

junior torrent
#

Also

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Didn't they shut down AC for mw19

torpid mirage
#

Guys epic battlefield v rap /j (prepare for cringe)

wary sigil
#

Mouse input is also broken in MW3 lmao

solid hinge
#

Oh yea it is, there’s a weird drag on all inputs

torpid mirage
#

🎶Battlefield V war🎵

junior torrent
#

Does anyone know?

solid hinge
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Despite being on console I use kbm for war thunder and I got curious to try it out with mw3. The drag made it unplayable

torpid mirage
#

🎵Vs COD's door🎵

junior torrent
#

I'm asking because Im tempted to use a trainer for campaign and spec ops solo

torpid mirage
#

🎵Nah nah nah nah🎵 Battlefield lore lore lore🎵

solid hinge
#

wtf BlackHole_Laugh

wary sigil
#

is he okay

junior torrent
#

Anybody know?

solid hinge
junior torrent
#

According to the opening, it's ricochet

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Or Something

torpid mirage
#

🎵Planes are cool🎵 COD has no destruction🎵

solid hinge
#

Ah anticheat

junior torrent
#

Yes

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Duh

torpid mirage
#

🎵We have epic Tanks🎵 Battlefield is king!🎵

solid hinge
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Ricochet is the ac they use but that’s about all I know

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So don’t do anything that might get you banned

junior torrent
#

That's what I heard

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Some said AC shut down

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And like I said, I'm only use this for campaign and spec ops

torpid mirage
#

🎵Balanced gameplay🎵 Epic BF 👍🎵

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End of BF rap

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Me evading battle so I can go build some fortifications 🏃‍♂️

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Chat died faster than me when sniper campers

steady island
torpid mirage
#

I wish there was some sort of sniper counter other than just hiding

solid hinge
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There’s the trench periscope, decoy and if I’m not wrong bfv kept the sniper shield from bf1

junior torrent
#

I also got ghosts

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And the bots there? There totally okay!

solid hinge
#

CoD ghosts had some cool guns in it

torpid mirage
#

They should add surrender mechanic in BF /j

junior torrent
#

With alterware, I can play bot matches with rank enabled

solid hinge
#

Also strangely interesting animations for being a CoD game in 2013

junior torrent
#

Except...

torpid mirage
#

Imagine surrendering and then being forced to build fortifications in BFV /j

junior torrent
#

There's little flexibility option

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Like you can't have any map or bot count

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Which makes some maps with certain modes boring

frigid veldtBOT
#

Tomorrow (13/02) at 12:00 UTC we will roll out the following VHX-D3 Balance Changes via a Backend Update on #Battlefield2042

Standard Issue & Subsonic Ammo
▫️ 0-20M Damage Reduced to 22.
▫️ Can no longer 2 Headshot Kill.

High-Power Ammo
▫️ 0-4M Damage Reduced from 28 to 25.
▫️ 20-29M Damage Reduced from 24 to 22.
▫️ Can no longer 2 Headshot Kill.

ADS Dispersion
▫️ Increased dispersion by small amounts while Standing, Standing and Moving, and, Crouching and Moving.

Recoil
▫️ Recent changes to Horizontal Recoil have been rolled back (+10%)
▫️ Vertical Recoil will be increased by ~5%

scenic elm
#

and also the spawn becon

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so no sniper shield

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unless you use the Gunshield of the emplaced MG's as your sniper shield

solid hinge
#

I wonder why they gave recon a grenade launcher

uneven hollow
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leosniper grenade launcher

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Like the funny Chinese

solid hinge
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I actually saw one of those

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A Barrett grenade launcher

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It was blursed

sudden radish
#

how come all of the battlefield servers for bf1 is all over 200 ping for me

junior torrent
fallow root
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Fortification was a cut feature in BF1 ?

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Trench system

verbal bone
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I read somewhere that it was

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Dont remember where that was though

scenic elm
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can be handy if you know where some one is camping so you can bounce the grenade in to the room and explodes just as it hits the target

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sometimes you get in to a situation where the grenade and HE grenade pistol fuze's are too long and assault grenade rifle too short

granite wyvern
scenic elm
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unless your fighting people that are blind and have less then 80 health your not getting much out of it

granite wyvern
scenic elm
scenic elm
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you can spam it on operation underground

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and get loads of kills

grand forge
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Cringe

scenic elm
#

like on metro or locker with the XM25 airburst in BF4

fallow root
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Why doesn't support in BF5 have access to the frag grenade

scenic elm
fallow root
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isn't that an inferior edition

scenic elm
#

i have more kills with the sticky bomb then the frag grenade

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and people call it crap

scenic elm
fallow root
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Sticky is aimed against vechicles

vernal gulch
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how can i lvl up my class fast in BF1 ? i played a lot of games and still cant reach lvl 2 for any of classes and i have a lot of kills

scenic elm
#

it also sticks to map geometry as the name implies

scenic elm
#

and same damage

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if im not mistaken

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it might do sligtly less or more

fallow root
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it cannot bounce?

scenic elm
#

it can't bounce that's it's main down side

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so preaty much : Frag Grenade VS sticky

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the sticky can't bounce because it sticks to what ever you hit

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but does damage to vehicles

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stickies do like 10 damage on a good day to a tank

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you get only 1 sticky bomb

fallow root
#

10 damage equals 1/10 ?

scenic elm
#

10% of a tank's health but all the tanks have a difrent health pool

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so not realy 10% !

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maybe like 5% to a heavy tank

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if im not mistaken the light tanks and all halftracks have 2000 health (most likely im wrong here just to be clear)

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but i can't recall the health of the other vehicles

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so againsts tanks the sticky bomb only comes in handy when you've spent all your other anti armor munitions

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so you yolo at the tank with your Nitroglicerin filled plastic ball covered in glue

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and hope it does the job

fallow root
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The Japanese charging explosive is quite good but it is risky to use

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I tend to get killed

scenic elm
#

what you do is you go support

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get the ammo box

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charge a tank

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don't die

fallow root
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😄

scenic elm
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use the ammo box while your lying prone to the same damaged tank

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resupply your stick

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and smack the tank again

fallow root
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Those who like tanks are generally quite alert

scenic elm
#

anyways

fallow root
#

yes

scenic elm
#

you just get a buddy with smoke nades

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and they won't see you coming

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works like a charm

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problem is it requires a friend to come help you

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lol

fallow root
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true, but when you're in custody, that strategy doesn't always work, so one death or another I have to count on from time to time

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It sure works after a while

scenic elm
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the only sure fire way to kill a tank is to be in a tank your self

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unless you get bombed by the level 500 mosqito try hard the milisecond you spawn in

vestal notch
#

Man I only just found out about the sunsetting of BF 1943, such a good game that was

frigid veldtBOT
#

The following VHX-D3 Balance Changes are now live across all platforms.

This may take a while to propagate across all servers.

We look forward to your continued feedback!

Tomorrow (13/02) at 12:00 UTC we will roll out the following VHX-D3 Balance Changes via a Backend Update on #Battlefield2042

Standard Issue & Subsonic Ammo
▫️ 0-20M Damage Reduced to 22.
▫️ Can no longer 2 Headshot Kill.

High-Power Ammo
▫️ 0-4M Damage Reduced from 28 to 25.
▫️ 20-29M Damage Reduced from 24 to 22.
▫️ Can no longer 2 Headshot Kill.

ADS Dispersion
▫️ Increased dispersion by small amounts while Standing, Standing and Moving, and, Crouching and Moving.

Recoil
▫️ Recent changes to Horizontal Recoil have been rolled back (+10%)
▫️ Vertical Recoil will be increased by ~5%

scenic elm
#

I was there when it happened

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A marathon till the end

vestal notch
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Nicee bro, yeah bad company was great too

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What happened to the Battlefield 1943 leaderboards site?

scenic elm
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No idea

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I only cared for bad company

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All 3 Got shut down at the same time

frigid veldtBOT
frigid veldtBOT
#

We're aware that some of you may have been unable to join Breakthrough Chaos on #Battlefield2042 for a short time.

The team has now resolved this issue via a backend change.

This may take a moment to propagate across all servers.

Thanks for raising the issue with us!

bold eagle
#

Someone rank the BF games (how good it is)
And rank the BF game's activity(how active it is)
What you can pick:
BF1, BF3, BF4, BFV

ON PC

dense bone
#

bfv > 2042 > bf4 > bf3 > bf1

activity by guessing (we dont get origin numbers)

2042 > bfv/bf1 > bf4 > bf3

bold eagle
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ohh wait

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so BFV is the best?

dense bone
#

imo yes, i value gameplay over everything else, i feel like bfv has the best gameplay, most will agree if they know better as well

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bfv does lack atmosphere and being "historically accurate"

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which are two things i really dont care about while shooting people in the face

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other people really care about that, which is why bf1 is a lot of peoples favorite title (the atmosphere in that game is great)

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gameplay isnt bad, but i dont like spread based shooting mechanics, its just hard capped efficient range for weapons

bold eagle
#

just how fun it is?

dense bone
#

fun is subjective and most people dont really know mechanics either

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its also influenced by different things

bold eagle
#

so how do I know which ones to pick?

dense bone
#

tdlr, i like recoil based gun mechanics and the movement of bfv way more than any other bf title

dense bone
bold eagle
uneven hollow
#

Yea every lad has they’re own likes for a game after all so it really depends

dense bone
#

i dont recall bf1 having good destruction though, bfv has it pretty good and i liked the fortify system

bold eagle
dense bone
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bf1 has a bit more room for doing cool shit too, though barely

bold eagle
#

if i like realism

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and just like

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cool shit

dense bone
#

bf1 > bf4 > bf3 > bfv > 2042

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(only including the titles ive played, which are also probably the only populated titles as well)

solid hinge
dense bone
#

its something

solid hinge
dense bone
#

i mean.. you can do that in a lot of bf titles that have those vehicles

solid hinge
#

Bf4 does it best

dense bone
#

🤷 ive moved on from bf4 long ago

solid hinge
#

Also the maps on bf4, at least a couple of them are great

dense bone
#

tried it again a couple of years ago and it just felt weird

solid hinge
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Especially paracel storm that's my fav map

bold eagle
#

why do I keep getting kicked from the anticheat in bf4

dense bone
#

are you sure its anticheat or just admins in game kicking because thats what they do?

bold eagle
solid hinge
#

They like kicking people who don't wanna go to their little tea party

uneven hollow
#

Basically

solid hinge
granite wyvern
#

For me:-

BFV
Hardline
BF1
2042

junior torrent
#

Can't say much

junior torrent
junior torrent
#

To get away from these annoying people

upper berry
#

Hopefully 🤞 WR don’t have badmins, cuz fuck them with a passion

#

Atleast for me, I’ll be playing 128p official servers on WR

junior torrent
#

I may not join others

vagrant lark
#

I was wondering how do you get the bazooka in BFV?

upper berry
junior torrent
upper berry
#

oof

junior torrent
#

True coop experience

upper berry
#

i will always play against real people because, it improves my skill

junior torrent
#

I'd rather not see jerk off bunny hopping every second

upper berry
#

not much people bunny hop tbh

junior torrent
#

Or beamed me with their AR from 200 meters

upper berry
#

skill issue

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use your cover as a advantage

junior torrent
upper berry
#

i never said you were one

junior torrent
#

Ok

bold eagle
#

BF4 is hard

junior torrent
vale grail
languid sinew
junior torrent
languid sinew
#

Most of the players, I reckon. At least the ones who don't want to die instantly.

junior torrent
sweet fern
#

are there any good servers for getting the DICE camo easily in BF4?

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i was thinking of picking the game up for $4 again but i remember it was a huge grind to get the camo the first time

scenic elm
#

it's a MMO shooter from the birds eye view

#

i've played it since the alpha so i would know (i don't play it anymore tho because the devs changed the game and is too difrent from the elements i've enjoyed)

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lol

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but anyways, yea it would have been cool

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BFV does this somewhat, and making your own custom fortifications would have been realy cool

vale grail
scenic elm
#

if your looking for a RTS-FPS hybrid game

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it's called natural selection

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that's how an RTS hybrid game looks like

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or Empires if we are looking for a battlefield style game

vale grail
scenic elm
vale grail
scenic elm
#

you literly just beg pepole in chat

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to do anything

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unless your in a clan then there is a chain of command

vale grail
vale grail
scenic elm
#

unless Arma 3 or Squad is an RTS

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all tho in arma 3's case there are RTS mods and Arma 2 had an RTS-like gamemode (im talking about the later Chernorus army story route missions)

upper berry
#

RTS is like red alert lol

scenic elm
#

etc

upper berry
#

ye, i wished RTS genre didnt fell off

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i wanted for command and conquer games

scenic elm
upper berry
#

meh... they are ok

#

command and conquer did RTS the best

scenic elm
upper berry
#

I saw that. That actually looks fun asf. A good c&c alike game

#

Most of today RTS games looks meh 😒

scenic elm
#

also returning to foxhole, it may look cool and all

#

but it just becomes a bridge meat grinder

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or a chokepoint meat grinder

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that never ends for real life days

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also, i still am confuzed why do i see so many pepole call it an RTS

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and where it started

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considering the steam page of the game Explicitly says it's an MMO

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lol

upper berry
#

today society that we live in now

scenic elm
upper berry
#

9 bit armies is gonna be the only viable fun RTS tbh

scenic elm
#

it plays like a sligtly more refined version of C&C

#

building....buildings is identicle

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making units is the same

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etc

upper berry
#

I can see that especially since they remastered C&C.

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That’s how you know it’s a good RTS game

scenic elm
#

they are made up of Ex westwood devs

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so they literly made the first few C&C games

upper berry
#

Ye, I can tell

scenic elm
#

the great war, the previous game they made was fun

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they abandoned it quite soon after launch unfortunatly

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also, if people call random non RTS game's, imagine a RTT purist getting triggered when someone calls men of war an RTS

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Real Time Strategy Vs Real Time Tactics

solar nexus
#

This is why bf4 is well liked, players say battlefield doesn't need a single player

trail wadi
#

"This is why." I mean, you can list it as a reason why, but not the reason

tranquil heart
bold eagle
#

Can someone help me or make my loadout classes in bF1?

solid hinge
#

So whats up with the BFV resurgence?

crystal yoke
earnest heath
#

Battlefield

granite wyvern
solar nexus
crystal yoke
granite wyvern
crystal yoke
#

5 hour cinematic war story can be a fun

frigid veldtBOT
#

We're making a change to the rotation this week on #Battlefield2042

Rush Chaos XL will now be replacing this week's Breakthrough Chaos due to an issue with the matchmaking process.

Breakthrough Chaos will return in a future weekly rotation!

granite wyvern
crystal yoke
#

Not everyone likes multiplayer only games

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There are lots of people who plays cod campaign and then stop playing it, they buy it only for campaign

rigid gate
#

I mean honestly a campaign for 2042 is so logical bc I feel ashamed having to youtube the lore of of this game and figuring out the reason for there being two tanker maps and the reason for non patrioted cards and why no pats are fighting each other on russian and american sides

#

a campaign is a very immersive tool for FPS MP

junior torrent
#

Brother

rigid gate
#

to whom it may concern

junior torrent
#

I just want a BF game that has bots for multiplayer

#

That the bots can play in all game modes

rigid gate
#

?????

rigid gate
junior torrent
#

Yet the stuff in that game isn't so great

rigid gate
#

So you just mean for the future titles you'd want to have the AI be implemented still

junior torrent
#

Yes

rigid gate
#

I agree

#

I just hope they bring back destructibility and a focus on the creativity and diversity of the maps.

junior torrent
#

Right now, I'm excited for bf4 Warsaw revamped

#

Just that

rigid gate
#

What is that

crystal yoke
junior torrent
#

Free to host server

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Modding and AI bots

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Which is why I'm excited

rigid gate
#

Ah I see, I'm a console player so I miss out on those things

junior torrent
#

Sad

#

But maybe you'll switch to PC in the future

rigid gate
#

maybe when I'm less poor most definitely

#

I really got excited for the idea of having the previous titles included in 2042 and honestly being able to play them in hostable servers is really fun but I wish there was more implementation of the weapons and a few mor of the maps as well

#

Forgive me as I drank 2 Primes like 3 hours ago. I never really chat in here but I really like BF.

junior torrent
#

I'm just excited for this mod

#

It's my dream to play with bots in multiplayer for older BF

#

For the longest time

crystal yoke
#

When you can't find players at that time these bots are magical

rigid gate
#

Give me an AN-94 please

junior torrent
#

And abusive admins

#

And bad servers

#

Seriously, servers with one mode and base maps

#

Are shit stain

crystal yoke
#

One thing that makes me sad that one day the game will shut down and nowadays game requires connection all the time

junior torrent
#

Not the end yet

rigid gate
#

Word to Star Wars BAttlefront

crystal yoke
junior torrent
#

Have you seen them revived BC2

crystal yoke
#

Like bad company

junior torrent
#

And even the classic BF games

#

???

crystal yoke
#

It's by modding?

junior torrent
#

Yes

rigid gate
#

I was curious about that

#

I really miss playing BC2

junior torrent
#

Go visit Venice unleashed website

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They have a link to the Rome server

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It's for that game

crystal yoke
#

But I thought we were talking about when they officially shutting down the game and no online service is available for that game then what will happen and we know that today's games even to play campaign requires internet

junior torrent
#

This is different...

rigid gate
#

I'm curious as to why more maps and weapons aren't implented into the portal, I would think that would concentrate players into one pool base

junior torrent
#

For a long time

rigid gate
#

I can tell but theres all this talk of corporate gaming and trying to make the most money possible

junior torrent
#

A severe reality today

rigid gate
#

Idc if I had to pay for the extra maps and weapons honestly if it was a reality that with every new season they brought a new 2042 map paired with a previous map from BF 4, BC2, or 1942 the community would jump at buying that

junior torrent
#

And if they fixed bugs and improved the functionality of portal

#

Sure that'll be great

rigid gate
#

I mean i don't know much but if you had told me I'm paying 100 dollars for that content before the game launched I would've bought it

#

just gotta reminisce on how good those days were

#

they were truly the best

junior torrent
#

In the future

#

Far future

#

BF from bc2 to V

#

May have bots

rigid gate
#

Give me bots thats okay

#

I'm sure the gaming community as a whole will probably decrease in the next few years 😦

#

Also competitive/ Ranked BF>>>>>>

vale grail
junior torrent
#

Obviously

vale grail
junior torrent
#

We would have offline capabilities...

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If the game originally had offline function

vale grail
#

and yet something so simple isn't avalible for modern games. Why

junior torrent
#

Try that shit

vale grail
junior torrent
#

Ok

rigid gate
#

operators etc

junior torrent
#

But that didn't hapoen

stark sinew
#

How on earth am i supposed to finish the Firestorm assignment and get more assignments?

solid hinge
#

For those of you who play well, do you do any training daily?

scenic elm
scenic elm
#

that usualy get a 2KD or more

#

and i would say. no

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it's like riding on a bicycle

solid hinge
#

im using sniper

scenic elm
#

if you get it, you don't need to realy train further

scenic elm
#

i see

solid hinge
#

xd

scenic elm
#

your new to the game ?

solid hinge
#

yes

#

im

scenic elm
#

as a level 260 Veteran of the game

#

il give you my cyinicle tips

#

bolt action snipers suck

#

semi auto snipers are cancer (they are realy strong)

#

the Medic bolt action jungle carbine is better then all the Scout class bolt action rifles

#

that's how much they are outclassed

#

this does not mean they are unuseble

#

they are just outclassed

#

unless your a God at headshoting pepole outside of 100 meters, bolt action snipers are not worth it

solid hinge
#

k

scenic elm
#

the jungle carbine in the medic class is a one shot head shot and two shot body shot up to 100 meters

#

shoots faster then bolt action rifles on scout

#

and you don't need to unscope while firing

solid hinge
#

im using krag-jorgensen

scenic elm
#

i personaly like the krag and Ross best

#

but the K31 is the best overall bolt action sniper

#

AT rifles aren't bad ether but they Require a very strange play style to work well

solid hinge
#

what is the best sniper or something like that that I can use to perform well today? in your opinion

scenic elm
#

it's a two shot kill at any range

#

6 round mag

#

preaty fast fire rate (for a sniper rifle)

solid hinge
#

k

#

tysm

vale grail
#

Dude, stop with that overwatch/modern cod pandering 'specialist' crap, the select few that like twenty fortypoo are marginal compared to the rest of us.

rigid gate
#

Do you not understand the risk of ruining a whole game if you give everyone everything????

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2042 has it's problems but I've never once had an issue with a certain specialist. the abilities are pretty cool imo. they changed how you play they game in a way that doesnt overpower the actual mechanics and functionality of it

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don't insult me my guy

vale grail
rigid gate
vale grail
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Or better yet, instead of defending a blatant overwatch yet somehow worse clone, why not try the other games?

rigid gate
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you're upset about voice lines???????

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you're comparing BF to overwatch?????

vale grail
rigid gate
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I get that

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but this is futuristic man

vale grail
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Honestly, look at how forgotten twenty fourtypoo and BFV are.

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There's still more people talking about BF1 than there are talking about twenty fortypoo because BF1 had love, time and dedication put into it.

rigid gate
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I don't knock them for TRYING something different. I don't think the specialists are the reason for people not wanting to play the game I really don't play anything outside of recon bc of the size of the maps. but having the ability to do extra recon for your team like using a drone or using paik's EGM or blascos radar block is pretty cool

vale grail
rigid gate
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but hose abilities aren't game crippling, if youre nt having but bc of things like that then I see why they should keep the other game servers alive

vale grail
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No one wanted that cod crap, look at the tom cruse knock-off aviator glasses ingrate from BFV

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"this is my movie look at how cool I am"

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Honestly it was literal agony watching that.

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Here, watch this trailer

rigid gate
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I think the vehicles are more a problem than the specialists are

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The jets for crying out loud are more of a problem than any specialists alone

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The little bird has wayy too much firepower than any specialist alone

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if you have more a problem with specilist abilities than a little bird literally wreaking havoc ona whole team and being damn near unstoppable than idk my guy

vale grail
vale grail
rigid gate
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bc I'm not the biggest fan of using dating guns and vehicles

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I like modern day assault rifles and vehicles over WW1 and WW@

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*WW2

vale grail
rigid gate
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no

vale grail
rigid gate
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I like BF 2042 enough to keep playing it

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I never even said I hated it

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and I'm voicing my opinion like everyone else

vale grail
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What's there to like?

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The fact these dumbass developers currently working there who didn't have the good sense to quit after all veteran staff left after the crap pulled with BFV's development are calling base game functionality like 'leaderboards, manual region and server searching' legacy features?

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Legacy features?! My god how insane does that sound, it'd be like releasing a cod game without the perk system and calling it a 'legacy feature that'll return later'.

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What next, are vehichles and spawn points going to be missing from the next game and called 'legacy features' too?

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There's nothing of substance in 2042's long-term survivability, and the portal mode was so bad it re-boosted the servers of Bad Company 2 to the point I was getting full 24 player servers on the xbox 360.

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Because no one liked it due to there being a slapped together re-hash of the original maps, mechanics and other systems with no notable improvement.

uneven hollow
frigid veldtBOT
rigid gate
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I'm sorry I can't read

uneven hollow
vale grail
solid hinge
vale grail
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Hell, we might even get.... the ability to use gadgets.

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Sure do love those 'legacy features'.

solid hinge
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CoD was there for a while, removing reload canceling and forcing staged reloads across the board BlackHole_Laugh

vale grail
signal gull
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حدا عربي؟؟؟

solid hinge
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Yes mohanad CursedCat

signal gull
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you? انت؟

solid hinge
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erm

cyan stratus
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yes

uneven hollow
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Si

scenic elm
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that's why they complain about CAS being OP

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Exept in BFV because good pilots can literly kill you from beyond AA range

vale grail
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BF1 did this pretty well with the AA mounts, AA rocket gun and Burton.

scenic elm
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where unless every AA asset is firing at it the second it's in range

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it will deliver it's payload

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no mater what

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lol

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there is no real way of making aircraft-ground interactions fun

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in war thunder it sucks , in BFV it sucks etc

vale grail
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My trick is using the Burton to cripple all the wings and engines, it gets the plane to piss off long enough to attempt repairs and by that time more people start lighting it up.

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The heavily nerfed position 4 repair rate is a godsend

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When the TSAR dlc first launched I was cranking 9-10 health per repair crank.

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It was then brought down to 5-7

scenic elm
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lol

vale grail
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the AA rocket gun has more range and a better chance at a crippling hit too.

scenic elm
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i never used the burton for shooting down aircraft

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so i can't say if it's good or no

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and the AA rocket gun was preaty decent

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but then again, i would say CAS in BF1 is way less oppresive then in BFV

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exept on operations where the funny russian bomber will wipe out your entire team with one bombing run

scenic elm
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Close Air Support

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i know there is a CAS variant in BF1 of one aircraft but i mean in general aircraft that are have weapons intended for ground atack

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in both BF1 and V

vale grail
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it's better in 1 because in 5 the whole fliegerfaust killing any plane in one salvo is insane!

scenic elm
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yes if your a good fliger user you can get a kill or two