battlefield-6

[stable haven]

is the m16 really taht good

[hexed wharf]

or more

biggest problem really is the visual recoil now

[sturdy spindle]

every shot feels like an explosion just happened on my screen

[tender cradle]

I haven’t used it on the normal maps, but imo, it’s good, but not great.

[boreal sedge]

tried the aftermarket buffer, i hoenstly can't tell if there's any difference

[arctic dirge]

With a 1× not much should change
Buffer only rlly works for those higher zooms if I saw right

[gloomy oracle]

its enough side to side randomness to be annoying

[hearty drift]

Now that I have my M16, I'll probably never use anything else

[sturdy spindle]

damn they created visual recoil just to make an attachment to reduce it

[hearty drift]

I usually ran USMC loadout back since BF3 and 4

[arctic dirge]

Create an issue to solve it
Classic plan

[balmy sinew]

I wanna unlock the m16 and modify it 😭 🤤

[arctic dirge]

Don't blame you, its my soul goal to get it, im ignoring full auto as the burst would just be superior i think

[charred rose]

Dice employee just always looming over your shoulder shaking your gun because you were doing too well with it before they shoved in this one attachment that needs to be useful somehow

[signal pier]

Guys we should all form a rebellion and do rebellion things

[sturdy spindle]

gonna be mandatory for movement demons cause i cant see anything during mid air or mid slide

[hearty drift]

It was the perfect time for me to actually use my battlepass xp multipliers

[sturdy spindle]

recoil jump and shake is crazy

[hearty drift]

And I appreciate we don't have to do some questionable assignments to unlock it

Like how in BF3, to get the ACW-R, you needed a kill with the EOD bot

[arctic dirge]

Just sucks I need like 7-8 levels still till i get it still, and i dont wanna use my xp boosts till double xp weekends where its big boosts instead

[charred rose]

I'm sure this will help the life of the game somehow.

[arctic dirge]

Yea I prefer js grinding than doing 360° no scoping in a jet killing a support who's on 5 hp

[sturdy spindle]

yea

[charred rose]

Hoping EOD bot arm will have extra fire damage or something beyond just being another 3 hit kill melee

[hexed wharf]

ehh its not that bad

[arctic dirge]

3 hit but it has fire which makes it a 2 hit
(It wont)

[hexed wharf]

like its hard to see sure but its not like you cant shoot them

[sturdy spindle]

i shoot much farther than u do mid movement

[heady gale]

Remember when different melees could break different things, like barbed wire, wood etc

[hexed wharf]

by the way, the scw feels exactly the same lol

[sturdy spindle]

yea

[arctic dirge]

Yea, its more like flinch in games like destiny
Its only visual, your gun still will hit them

[sturdy spindle]

all smgs feel the same

[hexed wharf]

nerf every gun but the scw 10

yayyy

[charred rose]

I didn't play the games where they did but it would be cool for more of them to have actual functions and benefits

[signal pier]

Dang no one wanted to do rebellion stuff 😔

[charred rose]

Make ice pick users able to climb large rock formations

[arctic dirge]

No ak47 = no rebellion sorry ☹️

[signal pier]

Daaaannnggggg

[arctic dirge]

However
We could be 'merican

[granite igloo]

I remember collapsing houses with sledgehammers

[signal pier]

I think it'd be a cool gadget where you can grappl onto walls and slowly climb up to the roof or windows. The ladder would still have use for easier traversal and more verticality n stuff

[granite igloo]

Ngl that would be a peak update

[charred rose]

Grapple hook

[charred rose]

So far it feels like the sledgehammer is the only melee that rly does anything unique for smashing walls

[signal pier]

It's fun to bash hrough walls and accidentally send a guy flying back lol

[kindred plinth]

NGL the BR rank rewards are kinda dookie. I'm surprised they didn't do paints that make sense or operators or something. disappointing they took the apex route. just weapon charms, player banners, and other minimal things

[warped steppe]

Gooooooood can these snipers just choose another weapon 😭

[charred rose]

The other weapons are even worse to use now so probably not

[signal pier]

I usually just try to dress my guys up as tactical as possible I guess. Like the Snipers will have camos I thonk would blend in with most maps. Assaults are a green color to me, Engineers are a tanish or desert camo, and Supports are a gresish blue lol

[charred rose]

They should let me throw the ripper or something I feel scammed being hype for the equivalent of a stick

[signal pier]

Lol

[kindred plinth]

i mean i want them to maintain the military asthetic. I don't want that fortnite or cod crap. I just was expecting a bit more... incentive to do Ranked BR? idk

part of why i quit world of warcraft. the ranked pvp i started to lose the want to do cause the rewards were always the same.

[charred rose]

3 hits and no special effect like taking health regen or something I am hitting you with a comically spikey blade what do you mean it's the same as a lil knife

[olive coral]

I gotta say

I don't think Golmud is for me

I just don't know how to play it I guess

[signal pier]

I have no motive to play WoW. Too boring for me lol. But naw I get you. Dice hasnalways had a bit of a rep for neglecting certain modes

[olive coral]

Evenly matched lobby and I go like, 7-10

[stable haven]

I think m277 needs a buff

visual recoil on that thing is way too high

[olive coral]

I'm so bottom of the barrel in big map conquests tbh

Everywhere I go I feel like I don't know what to do, I look around, I get shot by somebody I didn't see

[sonic saffron]

tr-7 might be still good

[olive coral]

Blown up by a random vehicle, sniped by the mountaintop, shot in the back by Buford Tannen over a matter of $80

[signal pier]

Sometimes when I play a jet, I like to try and pull some cinematic moments like doing fly bys, zoom by an enemy near an edge, or other suff like hat tou'd see in movies lol

CAN I NOT SAY THE WORD FOR NOT SMORT?

[hard lynx]

how is it that with every update the performance of this game gets worse

[olive coral]

Back to casual BT it is for me, where I don't feel like such a loser

Always

[tropic glade]

I feel like the destruction reached such a complete level where it works to detract from the game, literally. A capture point with a layout that actually makes for fun closed quarters encounters can be driven over by a tank, and now you're fighting over a mound of rubble that has no cover for the attacking side

[olive coral]

I agree but I never spoke up on this because it's such a minority opinion. I like when destruction is somewhat limited, so a map's integrity isn't compromised for the sake of "oooh destruction"

[past jasper]

Foe golmud imo the destruction is fine as it is

[tropic glade]

I only realised that yesterday when fighting over the D point on Golmud conquest

[past jasper]

Most other maps already have segregated areas that aren't enterable by vehicles

Also I want to ask why in the world was locket prime sector 1 in breakthrough changed

[tropic glade]

The whole D point is three shacks and a metal bunker, and after fifteen minutes only the bunker is left standing

[past jasper]

Locker*

The b point is now way too close to obj a, rendering a large section of sector 1 useless

[devout sedge]

It's good where it's at but I'm on controller.....

[stable haven]

see that's the thing, I'm on mouse and keyboard lol. It's better than controller but m277 is way WAY WAY WAY too punishing on it

[whole stirrup]

I think yesterday I had the most fun on BF6 breakthrough I got 25 sniper kills ans 8 assist..

Can we take a step back and thank battlefield 6 we can change our reticle color

[nocturne pebble]

should either get 25rd base mag size or less visual recoil

[stable haven]

a lot less visual recoil

[tropic glade]

I gotta say, Golmud is the first map that feels actually large enough to fit 64 players

In BF6, that is

I have to run two separate servers now, one Golmud only with 64 players, another with all the other maps and 40 players

[olive coral]

I need to learn how not to suck at Golmud because it's such a cool map. But I don't know what to do with myself on it.

I feel completely lost

And I know the map lol generally.

[placid wyvern]

Id say it's a vehicle-first map.

[tropic glade]

It's a transport map mostly, though they've added more cover for infantry which is nice

If you're fighting on foot, stick to the village up top

If not, grab a tank or a heli

[cunning junco]

It’s still good it’s just annoying to use now

[placid wyvern]

Is it possible they overnerfed controllers?

[olive coral]

Hm, ok. I did have my best experience while up there I guess.

[stable haven]

there's no such thing as overnerfing controllers

[topaz orchid]

I’m happy there’s enough transport vehicles to get around. Driving the bike is super fun on the map

[placid wyvern]

Be serious.

[tropic glade]

I loved the dirt bike

Now I wish people actually cared more about Portal so I could play Hardcore on Golmud

[olive coral]

Anyone know if Golmud appears in casual BT?

[placid wyvern]

I dont see why not

[olive coral]

Sure hope so

[placid wyvern]

Hope we get more metropolitan maps in the future, I feel that's the variety the maps are lacking rn

[tropic glade]

Seine Crossing please

[placid wyvern]

Most of them are rural, and the urban spaces aren't as developed

[frosty pier]

Season 4 is supposed to release on July 7th

[tropic glade]

More construction sites!

Is there a single BF6 map that doesn't have a construction site?

[placid wyvern]

Maybe Manhattan with surrounding districts would be something. Though that's yet another new york map.

Surely big enough for conquest

[frosty pier]

This means phase 3 of season 3 is only 1 week long

[tropic glade]

Oh wait, Easwood and Iberian Offensive don't have construction sites

I think

[placid wyvern]

Iberian has that elevator lift thingy, does that count?

[tropic glade]

Maybe

[frosty pier]

I got this info from https://discord.com/events/140933721929940992/1501239995225084008

It says season ends season 3 July 6th

[stable haven]

wow they nerfed the TR-7 recoil way too hard lol

[placid wyvern]

Imagine it on controller, now

Borderline unusable.

[slow rapids]

when AK-50

[stable haven]

tr-7 on mouse and keyboard is very unusable

[umbral flume]

Feels like they definitely increased the visual recoil

[stable haven]

kicks like a DMR on that thing

[umbral flume]

Shit hits like a dmr

[placid wyvern]

This new recoil with the bloom already there makes many weapons just feel bad now

[tropic glade]

Is it normal that I haven't noticed anything different about how weapons behave?

Granted, I haven't played since November.

[stable haven]

not worth using anymore either way

[olive coral]

Maybe tr7 should be built for hipfire

With occasional “as needed” range shots

[umbral flume]

M16 seems like the play now

[placid wyvern]

BIS?

[umbral flume]

It’s hipfire is so bad lmao

[stable haven]

tr7 needs significant buffs by season 4 lol

[olive coral]

I mean try to pump hipfire points and see what happens idk

[umbral flume]

It’s max hip fire spead is still dogshit

[placid wyvern]

Probably worth using a better gun anyway. If you have to invest everything just to make the hipfire work, it's objectively bad.

[stable haven]

what ever controller has recoil on for tr7, give us that recoil for mouse and keyboard

[olive coral]

I see ok, never tried myself

[olive coral]

And I agree

[stable haven]

tr7 needs a MASSIVE recoil reduction and better hip fire

[placid wyvern]

Tr7 on controller isn't good

Like I said, borderline unusable.

[hard lynx]

the recoil changes need to be reverted the gunplay is worse than ever before which is an accomplishment given how bad gunplay was b4 already

now its just straight up rng

[placid wyvern]

Or, leave the recoil, reduce the visual recoil, and reduce the bloom.

[stable haven]

try it on mouse and keyboard. It's literally the worst thing ever >_<

[hard lynx]

nope the recoil is the problem given its random recoil like bf5

[placid wyvern]

Try it on controller, then you won't complain about controllers having it better.

[frosty pier]

I want to try out the new AR so badly but I’m dedicated to not spending any coins for tiers

[placid wyvern]

I'd rather have recoil than bloom personally. Random is fine; counteracts recoil packs.

[frosty pier]

Is it good guys?

[rich torrent]

There is absolutely no reason as to why controllers need less recoil, they also still get 11% less.

[frosty pier]

The m16a4

[hard lynx]

bloom >>>>> random recoil bloom as how it was in bf4/1/6 beta was perfect

you controlled it by bursting

which gave gunplay an actual skill gap that's completely missing bf5 onwards

[frosty pier]

I play on controller and it feels fine

[hard lynx]

also holy f matchmaking is worse than ever how do these devs keep making this game worse

[placid wyvern]

Except when full-auto stops being viable at around 30m.

[hard lynx]

skill issue, land ur first 6 shots

[placid wyvern]

And KBM is still better overall despite the increased recoil, even prior to the nerf.

[placid wyvern]

It's absurd to demand bursting within 30m.

[hard lynx]

u wouldn't need to burst if u land ur shots

like in bf4 u absolutely can full auto at 30m with most guns

unless u like miss ur first 10 shots which in that case ur dead either ways

[placid wyvern]

My reticle's on point. The point is that bloom forces misses.

[hard lynx]

again. learn to burst fire.

[gloomy oracle]

this argument again? the avg player statisically does better with a controller vs MKB, higher floor lower ceiling, vs lower floor high ceiling.

[placid wyvern]

Again, that's absurd within 30m.

[hard lynx]

and again that wouldn't be needed if u land ur shots

[rich torrent]

Situational.

[stable haven]

we talking about tr-7? yeah you can't burst that past 30m lol

[placid wyvern]

Bloom isn't situational, it's always present.

[balmy sinew]

🚬

[placid wyvern]

Source that.

[hard lynx]

so is random recoil

where every gunfight is now rng based on whether recoil works for u or not

[gloomy oracle]

you can literally google that. there are studies and articles dating back 20+ years

[placid wyvern]

Recoil can still ne somewhat deterministic, like the overall direction the weapon kicks, making it manageable.

[placid wyvern]

Name one, please. Most studies indicate that KBM is generally superior.

[gloomy oracle]

why do you think games liek apex or old school Halo Controller players all use controller? even if they ahve MKB option? cause aim assist and less need to track

[placid wyvern]

Halo is incredibly forgiving, for one. Very high magnetism regardless of the input.

Please give me the title of one.

[gloomy oracle]

bruh just google and you can pull old gamer articles, or case studies are we that lazy? or you just don't want to be wrong

[tidal hound]

He said average players.KBM is superior at higher skill ceilings, which you both just agreed on.

[placid wyvern]

Burden of proof.

[hard lynx]

not with how the recoil works in bf5/bf6 where it goes in different angles. also spread as how it was in the past was consistent in that ur shots would always be within a circl3e

and this circle was very easy to manage with basic bursting

[placid wyvern]

Again, bursting within 30m is an absurd ask.

[placid wyvern]

KBM has a higher skill floor and ceiling comparative to controller.

[rich torrent]

I can't think of another game that gave controller less recoil and you're still not happy with 11% less, in a game where recoil essentially doesn't exist.

[hard lynx]

again, that doesn't happen if u don't miss ur shots

[placid wyvern]

Bloom forces you to miss.

Even when you're on target.

[tidal hound]

I think you mean lower skill floor, higher ceiling, but yes

[placid wyvern]

No, KBM is harder to learn because it's inherently less ergonomic. So higher skill floor.

[tidal hound]

The worst KBM player would get destroyed by the worst controller player

[hard lynx]

nope. first shots are always accurate in bf4

[stable haven]

wow I have the worst teammates tonight in golmud

[placid wyvern]

Only the first.

[hard lynx]

have you played any bf before bf5? the first 6 shots are very accurate

[tidal hound]

..... harder to learn means lower skill FLOOR. Floor is DOWN lol

[placid wyvern]

Yes, because it has a higher skill floor.

[topaz orchid]

[hard lynx]

at minimum at that

[rich torrent]

Having AA and still claiming controllers need a buff is insane.

[placid wyvern]

No, you have it backwards. Higher skill floor means more baseline skill is required.

[tidal hound]

No... skill floor is the absolute lowest skill a player can be

[placid wyvern]

Google it.

[topaz orchid]

[gloomy oracle]

i like how you ignored my Apex point, when every comp team ran 2c1m cause controller was LITERALLY 200% better

[tidal hound]

Apparently, being higher = worse lmao

[gloomy oracle]

liek its not even an argument

every they had to ban 3 Controller teams

[placid wyvern]

Because that's a claim related to examples, the definition of "skill floor" is easily investigated.

[gloomy oracle]

there are muliple games like this, for the last 25 years this kid is high

[placid wyvern]

Provide one article, please.

[sturdy spindle]

why no one posting clips of their gameplay

[stable haven]

idk man every time I try to post it's like 800MB or something

[balmy sinew]

😭 🗣️

[rich torrent]

Why do you post clips of single kills.

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl who do that

[stable haven]

I donno how to compress the video files for clips lol

[sturdy spindle]

a video editor

[balmy sinew]

Ah hell nah! 😂

[gloomy oracle]

https://thecontrollerpeople.com/controller-vs-mouse-for-fps/

literally even CoD bans MKB back cause it was pointless

[balmy sinew]

You could use Shadow play?

From Nvidia app?

[slow rapids]

hwat

[stable haven]

they made the recoil so much worse in season 3

[umbral flume]

I think the main thing MKB has over controller is the fact they can pretty much switch over to any game and still get the same performance

[gloomy oracle]

i like how he doesn't provide any proof just full of shit demanding proof when it takes 10 secs to google while im in game actual trolling

[topaz orchid]

I like the recoil change. Can’t just hold the trigger down and beam

[gloomy oracle]

will MKB at highest level win? In like 60-65% of games, but we're talking the average

[placid wyvern]

Did you read it? "In 2026, the data show that controllers dominate the typical keyboard-and-mouse setup in certain games. This is not an argument that controllers are universally better than a mouse and keyboard."

[gloomy oracle]

and the avererge cannot even MKB past 250ms reaction time

[tidal hound]

Unless of course you just use one of the guns like Kord and b36 that were basically untouched by the recoil nerfs

[gloomy oracle]

the argument is literally the average controller player is better then MKB cause its that much easier for the average gamer

[sturdy spindle]

average meta gun with kbm can still full auto u at 75m

[topaz orchid]

Assault rifles are my least used guns in bf6

[umbral flume]

M36 isn’t even that good lmao

[gloomy oracle]

my guy did not read just full on jorking it

blocked from now one goddam troll look at his chat history

[placid wyvern]

I didn't block you dog.

I'm reading.

[sturdy spindle]

wym #screenshots-and-clips message

[rich torrent]

B36 is good, idk what you're on about.

[sturdy spindle]

b36 has been top 3 gun

[umbral flume]

It’s like the most B tier gun

[balmy sinew]

[topaz orchid]

It’s all about the m16 anyways so idk what yall are on about lol

[native fable]

@sturdy spindle facts

[balmy sinew]

[tidal hound]

But you dont mention the Kord, even though it fills the same role and interchangable with the b36? Slightly slower ttk for slightly less recoil

[placid wyvern]

I lean towards the B36.

[sturdy spindle]

theyre not same role at all wym

kord is buns

[umbral flume]

The kord just kinda exists never really vibed with the gun even I got it to 50

[placid wyvern]

Wasn't always buns 😭

Miss those days.

[rich torrent]

The Kord is an easy gun for bad players.

[umbral flume]

More of a vcr type of guy

[stable haven]

b36 is neat

[sturdy spindle]

kord was always an inferior version of existing weapons

[sturdy spindle]

easy guns for bad players dont exist, true meta exists because the guns are so op they are easy to use

[tidal hound]

vcr is bad now. It got like a 40% recoil increase lmao

[stable haven]

ooh it's that bad? I need to try it

[tidal hound]

Just use the m433 instead

[granite igloo]

VCR got taken out back

[stable haven]

TR-7 got worse, too

[granite igloo]

It was fun while it lasted

[placid wyvern]

What abiut the L85? That one had little recoil.

[native fable]

My beloved NVO seems close to the same on console

[sturdy spindle]

b36 makes l85 useless

[placid wyvern]

Yeah...

[tidal hound]

Yeah nvo was barely touched, but it also had low recoil already

[granite igloo]

L85 is my least liked gun on the game besides the ak-205 or sor-556

[slow rapids]

i havent really had any issue with it than normal, if anything it felt easier than it did before bc it pulls upward and left way more consistent. im just running my normal TR-7 build with the 45pt stubby and flash comp

[rich torrent]

Kord and KTS are prime examples of easy guns for bad players that don't exist within the meta.

[sturdy spindle]

how is a bad gun easy

[placid wyvern]

Kord's kind of mid now

[nocturne pebble]

fr it might be more recoil but its more controllable

[placid wyvern]

Suffers bloom a lot.

[rich torrent]

No recoil and that's what these players look for.

[stable haven]

oh I have no stubby so I should try equipping that

45 pts is a lot though

[sturdy spindle]

the true meta dont have recoil either

[slow rapids]

its worth it if you wanna hit anything lol

[rich torrent]

We're talking about bad players, they don't know metas.

[placid wyvern]

Do you use weapons at the bottom of the meta hierarchy in protest, then?

[slow rapids]

i either run the 45pt stubby or the 35pt stubby and add hollowpoints

depends on my mood

[granite igloo]

The best gun ever is the kolibri in bf1

[rich torrent]

I'm either leveling things to 50 or using M87 slugs.

[stable haven]

do you still have room for a larger mag and/or suppressor?

[placid wyvern]

Aren't slugs meta?

For shotguns?

[rich torrent]

Due to buckshot being absolutely useless yes.

But none of the shotguns are meta.

[placid wyvern]

So they're easier?

[stable haven]

buckshot is so bad lol

[granite igloo]

Buckshot is dudu

[nocturne pebble]

buck is good on the pump and saiga

beneli needs slugs

dp12 needs god

[sturdy spindle]

m87 wants buckshot

1 shot 20 meters consistently

[placid wyvern]

Well, he thinks bucks are useless.

[sturdy spindle]

[rich torrent]

Because they are.

The new buckshot sounds like it'll be worth running though.

[placid wyvern]

So you gravitate to the easier option, slugs.

[rich torrent]

Less pellets, less spread iirc.

[rich torrent]

To the usable option.

[sturdy spindle]

slugs arent even easier idk what ppl r on

[obtuse urchin]

bruh lag is AWFUL when piloting aircraft. I legit have 25 ping, but the server itself forces lag somehow

[sturdy spindle]

buckshot to the chest will constantly one shot anyone

[placid wyvern]

Easier to get value out of.

At least, as precise as I was.

Preferred slugs when I got em all to 50.

[rich torrent]

You don't struggle with points on shotguns and the slug for the M87 can one shot further.

It's an easy pick.

[sturdy spindle]

u cant even move like ur using a shotgun with slugs

the sweats run buckshot

[rich torrent]

Skill issue.

[placid wyvern]

How so?

[topaz orchid]

[placid wyvern]

I had no trouble moving with slugs.

[sturdy spindle]

doing full speed movement to still get oneshot at 20m

without a headshot

u cant even hipfire with slugs properly

[placid wyvern]

One-shots with either ammunition isn't reliable at those ranges anyway for different reasons.

[sturdy spindle]

but buckshot is reliable

if u arent doing one shot, ur straight up missing

[placid wyvern]

Having spread makes in inherently less so.

You can't aim every individual pellet.

You can aim a slug.

[sturdy spindle]

its not hard at all if u center ur aim on the target with buckshot

every time i ask someone to clip their shots, they r just bad aimers

[placid wyvern]

Anecdotally, it works less often than when I use slugs. So I disagree.

[rich torrent]

Same goes with slugs and you get more range.

[sturdy spindle]

i gotta see the aim

[placid wyvern]

You're not an authority.

[rich torrent]

Buckshot is a joke, I was top 10 in the world for shotgun kills in BF1 for a long time and it's just terrible in 6.

[sturdy spindle]

why u flexing a lifetime stat from playing too much

[placid wyvern]

One to talk.

[sturdy spindle]

wym im below level 200

[rich torrent]

Bruh this was when I was in school, I didn't exactly have a lot of time.

[placid wyvern]

What about other games? How many hours you got in BF1?

[cinder geyser]

why are all my servers BOT lobbies

[sturdy spindle]

different game though, the shotgun here works like that in cod

[sturdy spindle]

bf6 is my first bf

[placid wyvern]

What about other games?

[rich torrent]

It's still Battlefield and buckshot is terrible compared to past games.

[slow rapids]

my "general build" is

• red dot
• flash comp
• 35pt stubby
• hollow point

thats it

[rich torrent]

Why would I take something that one shots at 20m over something I can easily fit into my build that one shots even further?

Buckshot is inconsistent.

[topaz orchid]

Just use what you like lol

[stable haven]

thanks I'll give it a try. I didn't unlock 35pt stubby yet so I'll use another 35pt grip

[sturdy spindle]

how do u one shot with slug

[placid wyvern]

I usually play around the assumption that the first shot won't kill anyway.

[sturdy spindle]

thats horrible

[placid wyvern]

That's smart.

[rich torrent]

What kinda question is that

[sturdy spindle]

tell

[rich torrent]

Chest or head, what else is there to say?

[gloomy oracle]

bruh this game will auto vault me over every goddam ledge or fence, but not a low table or chair. 10/10 design interaction

[placid wyvern]

There's a setting for that iirc

[obtuse urchin]

okayyy,,, i just got 3 different server disconnect messages after killing someone w a chinese-character name and high ping... my ping was 25, i should NOT have dc'ed

[topaz orchid]

Auto vault on the train sounds like hell

[sturdy spindle]

so u need a very accurate shot on someone thats probably barely moving

[topaz orchid]

I already accidentally jump off sometimes lol

[rich torrent]

Shooting the chest is the same with buckshot or slug lmao.

[obtuse urchin]

oh and now 3 different random error messages

[sturdy spindle]

buckshot wont exactly need chest, just a good center on any of the body

what range can slug oneshot to chest

[gloomy oracle]

and they still haven't cahnged that a leaf or random small plant can block all nades, or launchers and RPGS like wtf

[placid wyvern]

About the same.

[rich torrent]

Slug is literally the same plus you get benefits from headshots which buckshot gets none of.

[gloomy oracle]

leaf/plant is the true final boss

[obtuse urchin]

can someone pls verify whether this is normal or not

[twilit fjord]

Can you not spot vehicles for your team when you're a pilot in a jet or something?

[placid wyvern]

Saiga with slugs is still my fav.

CQB DMR.

[ivory spire]

if i get hit by one more fooking locked on missile THROUGH FLARES AND NOT PAINTED

[twilit fjord]

Can you not spot vehicles for your team when you're a pilot in a jet or something?

[placid wyvern]

If you're on controller, commorose is a different bind than on foot.

[twilit fjord]

PC
I will free look and press ping but it's just my ping not a spot

[placid wyvern]

By default at least.

[sturdy spindle]

idk man until i see slug moving as smoothly as this without fail #screenshots-and-clips message

[placid wyvern]

None of those kills were at 20m.

You even lined one up for a headshot.

Most of them were barrel-stuffs so of course they worked.

[upbeat spade]

Why only one person shot back in this clip

[sturdy spindle]

its about the nice pellet spread that can one shot up close still without being exact

[sturdy spindle]

0ms ttk they cant shoot back

[placid wyvern]

Yeah, and they were all well below 20m.

[sturdy spindle]

what that gotta do with slug moving as smooth up close

[placid wyvern]

Do you have a clip for those boundary conditions?

[obtuse urchin]

okay i rejoined, and it happened again. i killed a player who had a chinese-character username and high ping, my own ping was good, and i got IMMEDIATELY kicked w a FLOOD of 6 different disconnect messages and errors. wtf

[placid wyvern]

I must be misunderstanding what you're talking about with "movement". That's generic movement and a playstyle I did all the time with slugs.

Nothing so innately profound that's inherent to buckshots.

[sturdy spindle]

u just said u play with the idea that ur first shot will always miss

[placid wyvern]

You missed a shot.

Fired a second one.

[sturdy spindle]

one out of 8 lol

[placid wyvern]

To some degree, you do the same.

Can't depend on the netcode being perfect with every shot.

[balmy sinew]

👩‍🦲

[placid wyvern]

Nor with all the visual noise the game has.

[sturdy spindle]

netcode had nothing to do with that i just missed

ah hell nawl

[sturdy spindle]

i wasnt abusing movement there, just a 7 for 7 kill

[mint oriole]

I just got stuck under the map while doing br

[placid wyvern]

If netcode is screwy, your first shot might miss.

I see one-shots as a bonus, and two-shots as the standard I aim for.

[sturdy spindle]

i slow down clips and track ppls aim to show they missed

[placid wyvern]

And?

[nocturne pebble]

going for 2 shots with the pump is crazy

[sturdy spindle]

if a slug is so accurate this should not be an issue ngl

[placid wyvern]

I'm not "going for two". Two is the contingency i prepare for in gunfights.

[placid wyvern]

The slug would be just as effective in that clip.

[nocturne pebble]

nah slug is harder to hipfire

[placid wyvern]

They were all within range.

[sturdy spindle]

my pellet spread and strafing would definitely not line up slug rounds

[placid wyvern]

They would for me.

[sturdy spindle]

im not even moving that much but slugs would be inaccurate still

[placid wyvern]

Not a problem for me.

[placid wyvern]

Your original argument was that bucks were more reliable at range.

[sturdy spindle]

u cant say this but go for two shots per pump

[sturdy spindle]

nah i said at 20m, buckshot can slay u out easily and thats all u need with ur shotgun

[placid wyvern]

I said two is the contingency. I go for one's, but I make sure I'm prepared to follow up.

[stable haven]

dang vcr-2 got a huge nerf. Good thing I got lvl 30 for the camo already

[gloomy oracle]

i just died 4 times in a row to claymores

😭

[placid wyvern]

Yet your clip didn't showcase that.

[hexed wharf]

are you sure it wasnt because i was on the enemy team

[sturdy spindle]

no i showd why buckshot up close is superior af cause wider spread which slug cant have

[hexed wharf]

🧐

[placid wyvern]

It DID showcase that you follow-up when you miss, however.

[placid wyvern]

That wasn't the argument.

[sturdy spindle]

this doesnt apply to the 6 other kills

[gloomy oracle]

[high quail]

yo i been trying to c4 jeep but everytime it seem like the c4 despawned or something anyone knows if they took it out?

[gloomy oracle]

were you i was too depressed about that claysd

[sturdy spindle]

i also said u cant be using a shotgun like a shotgun with slugs wym

[stable haven]

damn I wish attackers got more buffs in breakthrough

[barren heath]

bunch of noob bots in here

[placid wyvern]

If the damage profile of a slug compares to all of a bucks pellets, than the spread means less point-blank.

[placid wyvern]

Maybe you can't, but i have no trouble.

[sturdy spindle]

[barren heath]

Is pro at using shotgun

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

[nocturne pebble]

has no trouble but goes for 2 shots

[gloomy oracle]

OMG AGAIN

WHY GOD

[placid wyvern]

Do you read for fun or something?

[nocturne pebble]

i cant read

[placid wyvern]

I said I go for one, but two is a contingency.

[nocturne pebble]

im iwwitterate

[barren heath]

Go for 3 and shoot their body for extra precautions

Make sure they're finished

[stable haven]

I gotta stop getting bad teams tonight

[placid wyvern]

This is weird.

[barren heath]

Did they fix orange dots yet

[stable haven]

No they haven't fixed it yet

[barren heath]

[placid wyvern]

It's like slightly better, but some are still hidden.

[rich torrent]

Slugs can do exactly this and at a further range.

Point blank kills like what.

[golden basin]

Thanks DEVS now every server is lagged and with stuttering. Congratulations 🎉

[placid wyvern]

Weird that we agree.

[stable haven]

dang, my weekly objective is insanely hard. 5 revives in ONE LIFE? Everyone gives up

[sturdy spindle]

hey man i gotta see this

[topaz orchid]

Can do that in on your first life on bt lol

[sturdy spindle]

just play with razr and friends they wait for each other to revive one another to preserve their kd to stat pad

[stable haven]

even on bt it's near impossible

you have not seen how often my teammates give up in bt

[placid wyvern]

Wonder how they'll fix that.

Maybe a minimum time before they can give up?

[stable haven]

I want that, honestly

[placid wyvern]

The other games had one.

[stable haven]

I hate this weekly objective so badly. 3 revives in one life is way more fair

5 is too much

[placid wyvern]

I just hanged back in BT, close to spawn. Even if I went down, some one was bound to res me.

[gloomy oracle]

5 is not hard, you just play hegatenal and wait for 10 guysto go down smoke and rez done

[placid wyvern]

That's a good one.

[gloomy oracle]

cause they will all just stack in one area and block each other whent hey see one guy peak first

[stable haven]

oh right now I'm on golmud lol it's impossible on golmud

it does sound easier in hagental

[placid wyvern]

Golmund's too open.

Fish in a barrel for snipers.

[stable haven]

yeah golmud is impossible to revive in

[hexed wharf]

does the buffer even do anything

[stable haven]

smoke nades don't respawn fast enough even on fire support perk

[hexed wharf]

it feels basically the same to me

[velvet kayak]

Sounds like team play to me

[obtuse sorrel]

anyone had some weird shit happen to the screen when playing ranked quads? like huge bright spots tht cause you not to be able to see anything

[stable haven]

okay I finally got the 5 revives

[placid wyvern]

Ayyyyy

It's really one of those happens when it happens kind of things.

[gloomy oracle]

there is definitely a slight delay you can't spam it as easier. Lot harder to solo rez 6 dudes in 2 seconds

but i mean otherwise it was a good change cause how many times you would down 4-5 guys reload and repeak they all back up looking at you was crazy

[hexed wharf]

im talking about the buffer on weapons

[velvet kayak]

How’s the song go? “But I would walk five hundred miles
And I would walk five hundred more”

[hexed wharf]

that "reduces" visual recoil

[stable haven]

I don't mind walking but my teammates don't want to wait lol

[placid wyvern]

Oh the attachment?

[gloomy oracle]

oh, well generally yea its pretty obvious, but probably won't affect good players

that random horzonital recoil though is really dumb/annoying you'll random just get a bounce that goes far to the side

[nocturne pebble]

is the buffer attachment only on the m16 or all buffer tube weapons

[gloomy oracle]

but everyone still goign to use DRS, SG553, M433, NVO meta outside of sniper rifles

they sort of slapped the CZ1

[inland nymph]

M16a4 is a believable contender at a range honestly.

It might be honeymoon period though.

I will be going back to the m277 when the time comes but this is really nice to use.

[placid wyvern]

Seeing a lot of people calling it bis

[inland nymph]

It kills slower up close but the burst and all makes it incredibly accurate.

[gloomy oracle]

M16 is same dps as DRS with more recoil, but faster reload and Mobility and ADS sooooo it will probably become really good when people realize this

[inland nymph]

And thanks to how burst works it has above average hipfire.

Yeah I noted it has more range than traditional rifles.

[timber wind]

yo yo, been diggin through the patch notes for what they changed to the HQ's C-RAM in S3, but have no luck.

seems like the nerfed it to the ground

[placid wyvern]

They do seem quieter.

[inland nymph]

This is the first time I will actually not use a suppressor and use a red laser sight because of how accurate it is.

[inland nymph]

I love the m16 due to how interesting it is.

[nocturne pebble]

cqb suppressor plus red laser

[inland nymph]

It shakes like a bastard but it's not unusable.

I don't need that.

[placid wyvern]

Definitely no tr7

[inland nymph]

I will be using the flash comp when I get it on it.

I want to give the Cryogenic barrel on it a go when it's out.

But that may be a little over kill depending.

I'm just happy we have a fun gun to be honest.

[inland nymph]

I think that's a good way to look at it by the way.

[placid wyvern]

Always suppressors for me

Oh yeah, I meant it's not as bad as the tr7 currently

[inland nymph]

The way I viewed it was "It's not as overdone as the TR7" but yeah same point.

[placid wyvern]

Lmao

[inland nymph]

It's definitely an interesting 5.56 rifle and may be a scourge at a range.

I do wish that they would increase the spread cause I remember seeing some old ravic clips where you could tell he was pacing his shots at a range.

Cryogenic barrel will be an interesting mix to it all cause I wonder what guns will get it and that.

[placid wyvern]

Anyway, bedtime. Got a lab tomorrow...

[inland nymph]

Take care! :D

[placid wyvern]

Yt

[hexed wharf]

sgx is just the best gun in the game lol

that and the drs

[upbeat spade]

Goodnight fellow stat padders

[bleak void]

It is true soldier. Work hard, support your team, and lead the way to victory™

[topaz orchid]

[snow rock]

That’s interesting apparently I’ve been playing Battlefield for the last 4 hours and 45 plus minutes which isn’t true as I stopped playing 4 hours ago.

But I guess discord kept the meter running anyway as it’s still showing me playing on my profile. 😂

[gloomy oracle]

i love the sgx. If i didn't get 8% packet loss i would probably use it way more. DRS is the gun for every kill record with SG553 smh

[lavish wedge]

Goldmud might be the best map so far ngl

I love the train that moves when you capture C

[shell sleet]

The frames tho on golmud

Idk if its me but it chugs

[topaz orchid]

Yeah I get like 10 less frames on golmud. Wide open maps be like that

I just dropped a few settings to make up for it

[shell sleet]

Sadly i can do no such thing

Also pc players make me chuckle when they talk about frame dips
And its like 10

[topaz orchid]

It is a frame dip lol

In hagental I’ll gain 10 fps cause it’s inside haha

[shell sleet]

Bruh lol

I think its server related tho what im experiencing

[acoustic canopy]

why is the light tank now so shit and weak with the main gun

[hallow furnace]

It’s been fun just wish player count would go up

[glossy scarab]

Golmud breakthrough is so fun (lying)

[topaz orchid]

It literally shot up in a straight line the moment the update dropped to 70k then everyone went to work lol

[glossy scarab]

Attack side only jet with current launchers and aa in general is just why

[topaz orchid]

Is it auger hard

Cause that was hard lol

[slender ice]

Will commander mode, ground-mounted artillery, two-seater jets, new types of helicopters, and a server scanner not be added?

[sterile lily]

wait wasnt season 3 supposed to launch with 2 maps?

[glossy scarab]

Bazaar mid season

[glossy scarab]

Idk I'm not touching it again

[topaz orchid]

lol

[vestal yacht]

Will there be ranked games for solo or duo in the future? I've been waiting for ranked games for a long time and unfortunately they're only quads.

[slender ice]

radio sounds dont sound like military degree

more like a street clash

game music is terribly bad

maps look like "cartoon"

optimization is still an issue , even high end PC's have fluency problems.

[glossy scarab]

One day we'll get a real spaa and aa launchers that aren't pray for dumbfire or laser hit

[topaz orchid]

I love the colors. You want the whole game to be brown?

[slender ice]

we all love colours, the thing is they are not realistic

you know what I mean?

[topaz orchid]

Looks like some random village to me

Yall just look for stuff to complain about

[slender ice]

no maps are not realistic

[topaz orchid]

Idc that’s it’s not realistic. It’s fun to play which is arguably more important

[hallow furnace]

I feel this game soo good I don’t understand the low player count maybe just everyone working or in school

[sage plank]

does the 1-4x variable scope seem very bouncy in 1x mode?

[hallow furnace]

We a family though

I’m probably play another 2 hours call it a night

[topaz orchid]

It is the middle of the night lol

[hallow furnace]

I’m taking in general bro

Not more then 80k usually always but u wanna act cool like im some how wrong

[topaz orchid]

That scope always seemed a little wonkey to me

[topaz orchid]

Go ask the players who quit

[hallow furnace]

Blah

[slender ice]

we need this f 15

[topaz orchid]

I bet the snail pace progression at first pushed a lot of people away

[slender ice]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/e/ed/BF2_F-15_Image.png/revision/latest?cb=20251128001007

sharqi peninsula map

strike at karkand and operation clean sweep(with the same theme)

dalian plant

[viscid ridge]

Devs if you read this finally a proper battlefield map that feels and plays like battlefield keep going this way and please give battlefield 2 maps some love in the future! Thank you

[hazy summit]

Golmud is rough

it gave me a headache

[velvet kayak]

I just stick to FED

[tropic glade]

I look at all the people saying Golmud is too big, and I'm like... have you even played a real Battlefield game before?

2042 and 6 do not count as one

[topaz orchid]

Had me in the first half ngl

It’s funny to cause every flag has at least one transport vehicle to get around and loads at hq

[tropic glade]

As far as I'm aware BF1 is the last game that feels and plays like a Battlefield. Granted, I know nothing about BFV.

[ashen oar]

[topaz orchid]

I liked BFV

Getting 20 kills at once carpet bombing was the best

[marble inlet]

I disliked BFV mp

[tropic glade]

I looked at the trailer and didn't even bother with the beta

It felt as though they had lost the plot

[topaz orchid]

Oh they did but the game ended up being fun

[tropic glade]

(I at least played the BF1 beta, though it ended up being not for me - I'm not a fan of past conflicts, modern or near future settings are my jam)

[bold schooner]

Game feels really good

[tropic glade]

But yeah, Golmud is genuinely the first BF6 map that feels and plays like Battlefield. Everything before was too small, too narrow, with too high player density and too many angles to have to be aware of

[bold schooner]

After the update

[tropic glade]

Golmud, for all its vastness, has a limited number of spots you can be shot at from

[median violet]

man driver crashes are back

and now they really won't go away

[fiery oxide]

Yeah only basically 360 degrees + from the sky

[tropic glade]

In reality it's the powerline mast, the roof of B, the bridge, or the construction site roof if you're in the upper portion of the map. And a random passing heli, naturally

[charred rose]

Now I can spend like 5 minutes getting to a point with no interactions and immerse myself in the detail of the map due to not actually seeing anyone

[tropic glade]

Use a bike, lol

Or a quad

Or a jeep

Or tag along on a transport heli

Don't just run around

[fiery oxide]

Someone already took those almost every time

and transports are death traps

[charred rose]

W map for putting waist high walls everywhere btw im sure bike players are happy about that

[tropic glade]

Somehow in the matches I was in someone would have driven through them in a tank by the time I got there

[charred rose]

Yeah someone has to be nice enough to clear em out for you otherwise it's a pain

The train is fun I like fighting over the train

[topaz orchid]

Honestly so annoying lol. Gotta take the long way around on a bike

You can plow over one but not two in a row

[tropic glade]

That takes like 10 seconds at most

[charred rose]

Multiplied by the other layers of wall put there by the devs as a meme

[topaz orchid]

But I wanna ride thru the field haha

And hit a sweet jump right before attacking c

[charred rose]

Should have added being able to ragdoll and fly off the bike for running into the wall at full speed

[tropic glade]

That's what I play Helldivers for

[velvet kayak]

Me and my guys take vehicles to FED and just control those three points FTW

[still ridge]

On Golmud, go to the far north, bit east corner of the map, with ruined tank and memorial, it's a reference to famous stunt pull by PonyLionHD called "Peek-a-Boo" which happened in 2014
There's also couple dog tags on the front of the tank, makes me wonder how to get them
I guess there's possibility just like Rendezook, gives you dogtag, the more crazy stunt does that too?
For those who don't know, they basically stick loads of C4 under a tank, waited for jet overpass while his friend was baiting the jet, perfectly timing the tank blow up, as it launched 30 feet into air, and shot the jet down

I dunno if i can post links here

[topaz orchid]

Oh yeah that did happen on golmud

[glossy scarab]

Most effective bf6 aa

[tropic glade]

I got banned here once for posting an image link lol

[topaz orchid]

Anyone find any sweet jump spots for the bike? I only found one jump but forgot where it was haha

[humble brook]

Does Dice have plans to fix gyro aiming on ps5? It is unusable because once you turn gyro aiming on - right stick becomes unresponsive. That fix could elevate gaming experience on PS5 on whole new level. And that is already implemented in other major FPS like Fortnite, CoD or The Finals.

[still ridge]

Okay I'd rather not

Just find it if you're interested

[fiery oxide]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/258372071086620674

[wild echo]

https://tenor.com/QlJC.gif

FKSDFOIJKM;wsdnF.AWEF wesrdfhsrtydjk

https://tenor.com/f4jfyZFZ9T9.gif

[fiery oxide]

embeds are disabled here

[rich torrent]

Golmud is such a snooze fest.

Even in Helis - it's so boring.

[obtuse lintel]

Anyone know does the flying recon drone "XFGM-6D" report/tag enemy positions to the entire 32 player allied team , or only to the 4 person squad?

[topaz orchid]

Whole team I believe. No way you’re getting 200 spot assists from just your squad

[dim nebula]

casual breakthrough does not count towards "win matches" apaprently 🙁

[hazy summit]

either in the middle of the open with no escape or in the thick of it with 40000 windows to get shot from

[rich torrent]

I just use vehicles on it - it's a more slow paced Mirak Valley which poor infantry game play.

Rush to D on Escalation for the LB and get 6 minutes of freedom to kill things.

[hazy summit]

i dont usually play vehicles but i ended up using them because i was getting bored

breakthrough is rough as well

[rich torrent]

Yea aircraft on BT is a stupid decision.

[dreamy shoal]

How everyone likes the new Golmud map? I love the hardware madness ..

[maiden pelican]

Map is great, but I don't know if it is AMD drivers, since it fucks up my FPS totally

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 12-Core Processor (4.40 GHz)
64gigs RAM
Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX (24 GB)

Usually I do 160fps on every map and every stage of game, but somehow the new map fucks up the FPS really much, it could be the drivers, but also it might be something in the game engine, does anyone else have same issues?

[tropic glade]

It FINALLY feels like Battlefield

[vital vessel]

atleast you dont crash. I have gpu crash on 9070 xt and forum have alot ppl with same problem

[maiden pelican]

I read from somewhere that AMD drivers has not been optimized yet for BF6, which is kind of weird

[dreamy shoal]

yes, i agree .. the Golmund train should have the armored train. Like "https://www.reddit.com/r/TrainPorn/comments/1eem0ld/artillery_platform_võitleja_of_estonian/" .. it would be a game changer 🙂

[maiden pelican]

So it might be that or some other issue, it might also be an issue of CPU load. Which one do you have?

[tropic glade]

Is there a modern version of that?

If not, then where would it come from? :D

So far, everything in BF6 is based on real gear that exists somewhere

[dreamy shoal]

yes, during WW2 there has been used armored trains .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzzYgNbPpXI

[rich torrent]

Snooze fest.

[vital vessel]

I am pretty sure its problem with gpu, bcz after 1 min of game open its turn off gpu in device manager

[maiden pelican]

What does to load look like on GPU? Have you updated your drivers?

[obtuse lintel]

Is there any reliable info what actually causes your "class/specialisation" to level up during a match all the way to your "ultimate ability" (like 60 seconds UAV drone for Recon)?
I often never get those level/rank ups no matter how well or team-oriented i play on conquest/escalation.

[barren heath]

How do you guys like the random recoil

[dim nebula]

anyone else have issues with the season 2 catch-up hardware challenge not counting for SMG kills? (can't post pictures here unfortunately)

[vital vessel]

yes, I was with autoupdate drivers. Now will try to use old one

[topaz orchid]

[tender lance]

Hey everyone

[dusty fulcrum]

yo

[opaque trout]

Awful. No one likes bloom. Wonder why they thought it was a good idea to just destroy all the guns in one go like this

[tender lance]

So hows the new updaet going for you guys

[barren heath]

Das not bloom

I do agree its a lil rough tho bloom woulda been better because at least it is predictable

[opaque trout]

Bad random recoil is basically bloom here

[barren heath]

Not the same because bloom is predictable

[tall zinc]

they are officially "optimised", the problem is the RDNA drivers for the last few weeks have been a total car crash for stability, not just with this game but others

[barren heath]

and has diff impacts

[dusty fulcrum]

whats bloom lol

[barren heath]

bullet spread

longer you shoot the wider the spread

[dusty fulcrum]

you guys dont think its realistic?

[barren heath]

bloom helps with long range engagement so you don't get cross map beamed etc

[worn marten]

Probably isn’t but idk nor care

[opaque trout]

Bloom isn’t predictable. It’s the random spread within a given radius

[barren heath]

Well its more controllable I should say, than random recoil is

Despite some hating random recoil it still adds some skill gap which is nice but bloom imo woulda been way better

[worn marten]

What is predictable is the rate of increase in the spread cone. That consistent gain means you can minimise the randomness through burst fire to maintain accuracy for a lower rpm, but fully random recoil isn’t incremental which is the big difference

[tall zinc]

bloom is not a problem, the problem is it got ballooned way too sky high

[opaque trout]

Yeah I guess. The randomness now makes it impossible past mid range

[fallen fox]

whats the next storyline in season 4

[opaque trout]

Yeah the randomness makes mid to long engagements feel really bad now

This will just lead to more campers sitting back though

[barren heath]

Just a better way to control longer engagements imo kinda weird that they went this route over more bloom

[opaque trout]

They could have just slightly increased recoil across the board and got better results than whatever this is

[barren heath]

Literally

[dusty fulcrum]

wait so waht was the recoil before

[opaque trout]

Of course you shouldn’t but that can be handled a different way

[barren heath]

Mr Joe got me blocked I see how it is

True tho

[opaque trout]

Let’s just say it’s wasnt random

[dusty fulcrum]

wouldnt making it random kinda make it more realistic

and more enjoyable

[barren heath]

realistic

[tender lance]

How the season going I can't really play it atm bc amd drivers issue

[opaque trout]

No because now your bullets don’t go where you’re aiming so a lot of engagements just feel random now

[dusty fulcrum]

i mean you know what i mean, i dont mean "realistic" like i want it to be exactly like real life i just mean the randomness of it

[opaque trout]

And let’s not even talk about how easy they made vehicles now

[barren heath]

[dusty fulcrum]

i do find it funny that an MRAP can take four rockets before exploding

[rich torrent]

Explain.

[dusty fulcrum]

what if the XM8 was in the game lol does anyone else think that would be cool

[opaque trout]

That it’s even easier than before? Tankers aren’t punished for playing bad. Engineers aren’t rewarded for getting behind/out maneuvering them. Basically you need all 5 RPGs to maybe kill a tank. Tanks are now even stronger with little repair men all about. And the fact that they auto heal and faster than before to full health

[rich torrent]

Well the auto heal is just incorrect, the health returns quick but it takes twice aslong to start healing AND it's 80% slower during critical health.

IFVs can still be 2 hit and MBTs can still be 3 hit so I don't know what you're going on about there.

Healing a tank is now also slower with the more people repairing it at once.

[dusty fulcrum]

wait so the more people repairing a tank, the slower it is if there was just one person repairing it?

[median merlin]

Yesterday I was tortured by the little birds and jets, because they gave him more room to maneuver outside the map (the flight space outside the map is 4 times bigger than the map itself) and it's a big problem, because golmud is a basically open map, and you have no cover if you have to move in large areas

[worn marten]

first person healing: 100% repair gain
second person healing it: 150%
third person: 175%.

not the exact values but that's roughly it. Instead of 3 people having 3x the healing it would be a smaller gain for each person healing

[median merlin]

They nerfed it, and thank goodness I might add, otherwise they would have remained immortal

[rich torrent]

Also Emergency Repairs is over time, not instant now.

[opaque trout]

Twice as long isn’t long at all and you’re back to health in no time. I was solo tanking and I barely had to hop out to repair myself.

MBTs could be two shot before and disabled. Now you can’t disable them with critical hits. And one repair guy extends the engagement way longer than pre patch.

[fickle edge]

@red jungle is initiation royale allready fixed after the latest update? See more issues about it on ea forum. Lobby is not loading or not connection since the update.

[topaz orchid]

That’s a good change tbh. You could never blow up a tank with 3 engis

[opaque trout]

That part is definitely a good change

[median merlin]

The only good thing about Golmud is that you finally get a feel for the large-scale sandbox scale of the maps, just as Battlefield should be

Stupidly, it works because it's a map taken from BF4 that worked at the time, and therefore not an original creation

[topaz orchid]

They made changes to it at least lol

Not just one to one

[rich torrent]

It's now 12 seconds to start healing (without being in combat) and it's 10% every second when healing.

MBTs could be 2 shot if they didn't have Emergency Repairs and/or the Armour Perk - so bad players. MBTs were always a 3 shot to the rear with these things and they still are now.

Repairs have not changed for the better so I don't see how you think 1 repairmen is doing more now than before.

Also it wasn't even just critical hits that disabled them, it was literally everything and everywhere.

Poor design.

[topaz orchid]

I did notice it was way slower with multiple people repairing. Which is fine it was so fast before

[opaque trout]

That’s not true at all. Now I know you don’t tank at all. You clearly don’t know the weakness on the tank.

I didn’t say repairs got better. But they nerfed the damage to certain parts on the tanks and angles which makes having a repair guy make the tank last longer now.

They were disabled based on damage. That’s why shots from the direct rear would disable them or overwhelming damage. Only people that struggled with are bad players that blame everything and randomness on it

[median merlin]

And in July, we'll have naval maps, with Tsuru being 3-4 times larger than Golmud, which shows that we're finally on the right track with the maps

Get ready for July, folks, we're going to the beach, the real meat of the game will be Season 4

[dusty fulcrum]

oh my god finally, a big ass map

not even being sarcastic I literally love huge maps

[rich torrent]

I'd suggest looking at the tracker in my profile, I've most likely got more experience than majority of people in here.

They made angles matter less, which is a buff to anti tanking by the way. Again, IFVs are still a 2 hit and MBTs are still a 3 hit.

Emergency Repairs got nerfed, so less survivability there.

217 IFV levels and roughly 130 on the MBT - I know exactly how they work.

[rapid atlas]

The balancing to Halgal or how ever tou spell it, is horrible. There is so much dead space to the first zone in breakthrough now.

[topaz orchid]

The angle thing would be mildly annoying sometimes when you shoot at a weird angle. Sometimes you do massive damage sometimes it goes straight thru the tank

[rich torrent]

Armour feels better than Season 1 and 2 - they don't feel stronger.

[carmine python]

Do we have prox chat yet or nah?

[rapid atlas]

Not yet.

[naive locust]

I haven't touched battlefield 6 since like week 2 of release.
How do I get the l115? its in the battlepass, do I just do daily challenges to unlock it or?

[median merlin]

Helicopters, jets, boats and dinghies, the sea, naval bases

I was never excited about BF6, but now with these maps and their direction, I am

The only shame is the game's art, which is truly awful in every way

[carmine python]

Cheers. Didn't know if it dropped with S3 due to the Voice Chat popup, is all

[rich torrent]

Yea I'm glad they changed it tbh - side hit should be a side hit, end of.

[rapid atlas]

Its in the battle pass. Or wait for the next season to unlock it via challenges.

[naive locust]

its a free item in the pass though

[dusty fulcrum]

I think the perspective is good sometimes, like golmud lkooks good to me

[ivory shale]

can we post clips in here

[rapid atlas]

Then challenges for BP points then.

[naive locust]

oki

[carmine python]

The UI artwork assets or the gameplay style? I think it looks great tbh.

[ivory shale]

https://x.com/ChallGym/status/2054427385936970000?s=20

[carmine python]

Nice to have more colour on the new map too

[median merlin]

Yeah, same

[opaque trout]

What am I supposed to be looking at?

[dusty fulcrum]

yeah dude did you enjoy the mountain range in that valley in the first mission i think in the campagin, it lklooked pretty cool to me, i think that would be a good place for a multiplayer map

[rich torrent]

Vehicle kills, you're stating I don't tank but stats say otherwise.

[lost kettle]

shib can you teach me how to fly jets on controller

[opaque trout]

So like over half your kills are from vehicles and you don’t know you can two shot tanks and the weak spots on the sides in the armor gaps. I think it looks even worse tbh

[rich torrent]

You can 2 shot tanks that aren't using the armour perk or emergency repairs, which majority of people do use - which then makes them a 3 shot.

As I have stated twice now.

[median merlin]

UI, General Design, Menus, Artistic Side of the Game (Colors, Vibrancy, Dynamics)

Golmud and Blackwell have tried to add more variety in this regard

BFV, for example, leaving aside BF1, which is in a league of its own, is 100 times more artistic and expressive than BF6

When you walked in the yellow fields, or on Iwo Jima, Arras, Panzerstorm, mercury

[topaz orchid]

I agree

I use repairs cause I’m stuck in my ways and haven’t tried anything else lol

[rich torrent]

They aren't worth using now.

[topaz orchid]

Been serving me well.

Low key tho I haven’t been using armor that much. Been fighting over the train and shooting down helis on golmud

[devout horizon]

why did they add visual recoil to guns only to add an attachment that fixes it

people hated the visual recoil in bf4 and it was patched out over time

[ivory shale]

are these good shots ?

[livid raptor]

The urban fighting in the last sector of Golmud is insane.

[devout horizon]

they said they were doing destruxtible and indestructable stuff, does the entire village get leveled or does some cover remain

bf4 golmud was good up until about 3/4s through a cq match, then playing infantry on the ABC triangle of flags at the top was a bit rough as all the buildings were gone lol

[topaz orchid]

Finally quitting time. Time to fight over the train!

🚂

[stoic tusk]

alot of it can be fully destroyed normaly make sure to knock a few buildings down everytime i go between ed and f with a tank

[livid raptor]

Also, did they revamp destruction on older maps? I noticed on Empire State that I was seeing sections destroyed that I don’t think I ever had before.

[formal comet]

Railway to Golmud have easter egg Peek-a-Boo from 12 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tY3aaII5s

[opaque trout]

You can 2 shot tanks with armor from the back

[devout horizon]

as long as at least some of it cant be destroyed its fine

it was just in bf4 all of it could be destroyed which was bad

they definitely went overboard on some maps with destruction in bf4 without really thinking about the impact of infantry and vehicle interactions

[livid raptor]

Also, BF4 destruction was less granular.

[devout horizon]

true, maybe its a little harder to bring stuff down in 6

you dont just loose the entire wall from a tank shell

[livid raptor]

BFV I think still has the best destruction system overall. Especially plowing through a building with a tank.

[chilly crag]

Yeah everything that used to make battlefield battlefield, its own unique game has been brushed aside as much as they could get away with in BF6. Destruction, bullet drop, larger maps, long range engagements, squad play, long matches, etc. I miss in BC2 when you couldn’t even lay down, crouch was the only other thing you could do besides standing

[lost kettle]

battlefield such crap
crashed in the loading screen of railway to golmud
imma go back to gauntlet

it randomly closed

[versed moon]

destruction?

bf6 has peak destruction

damn i fell for the bait

[ionic meteor]

Truly does

[versed moon]

my only issue is the dust the destruction poofs up, i know its more realistic but it isnt equally rendered for everyone so you end up getting shot through it at times

[ionic meteor]

Once people start talking about 2005 I head out

[versed moon]

but if you have seen that yt video where a group of ppl try and see how much they can destroy a map its quite mental

bf4 wasnt that detailed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0LytwIprA found it

[frail dove]

i love how the better armor and new thermal smoke on tanks actually make them viable to use when capturing points without the fear of being absolutely vaporized the moment you get close

[versed moon]

yup

but they will still go kaboom if you push without thinking

i also like how the ifv is alot less viable against the tanks

[dusty fulcrum]

only thing i can say, is that i wish sometimes game developers would make the game run easier, more than focus on having a super powerful PC to be able to play a game

but i dont think this game is super hard to run

[sleek pebble]

Anyone else kinda disappointed in this update?

[dusty fulcrum]

i think its cool

cause the m16

[versed moon]

the game runs well

[chilly crag]

Yeah BF4 is certainly where destruction went down hill. They gave us “levelutions” to compensate though

[modest jackal]

I guess it encourages you to use Light Rockets more?

[versed moon]

but the southen warehouse/factory in golmud gives me framedrops on a 7800x3d/4080s

[chilly crag]

Game runs well for me on my old laptop

[versed moon]

like i go from a stable 140-150 to 100

[versed moon]

which sucked and ruined map flow

and really are only cool the first time

[chilly crag]

Yes agreed

[devout horizon]

wasnt 3 and 4 basically the same

[versed moon]

i didnt like 3 and didnt play it so i wouldnt know

[rich torrent]

Again, not with armour and emergency repairs.

[devout horizon]

isnt armor gone

[modest jackal]

Reinforced Armour is gone.

[chilly crag]

I’d say they were the most alike. 4 was more of a casual reimagining of 3 where balance and map design went out the window in favor of more options for every type of player, and ever since then that’s been the goal of the franchise

[rich torrent]

It is now yea, well - it's default now.

[versed moon]

even with the reinforced armour you could 2 shot tanks to the rear couldnt you?

[rich torrent]

It's not removed as a whole, just as a perk.

[versed moon]

its 3 now for the tank and still 2 for ifv right?

[rich torrent]

Not with emergency repair.

[versed moon]

yeah but you aint toggling that if me and my duo shoot at the same time

[rich torrent]

The guy is just complaining about armour being too powerful now compared to S2 which is just false.

RPGs still need 3 hits for an MBT and 2 for an IFV in S3.

[versed moon]

oh its not

ive killed many many tanks on golmud already

[rich torrent]

Exactly, they feel better but not stronger.

[versed moon]

i mean they are stronger dont get me wrongf

its harder to solo a tank

which isnt a bad thing

[modest jackal]

I mean, the simplification of Vehicle Damage is nice.

[versed moon]

that to but its sometimes picky when taking backshots

it doesnt always give me the crit

even if the angle is good

[shell remnant]

how do we change weapon in firing range?

[versed moon]

go out of it and back in w

its insanely quick

[umbral rune]

Another day at work man

Squidward looking out the window at SpongeBob and Patrick having fun gif

[modest jackal]

It's way quicker and less clunkier than in Warzone.

[olive talon]

Keep up the work

[umbral rune]

I wish I was at home playing BF6 rn

Wwaaahhhh

[olive talon]

Guess whos going to play now

[umbral rune]

I wouldn't mind working if I got paid more

But I don't

[umbral rune]

The unemployed, I know

Enjoy it while you can yo

[lost kettle]

hehe

[olive talon]

hahahahha unemployed

I make more than you think off

[umbral rune]

Off what?

The casino??

Must be nice

[olive talon]

Actually i won 16k euro yesterday

[umbral rune]

Yeah right

[olive talon]

but im employed aswell

[umbral rune]

How did you win that

Are you tricking me

[olive talon]

make 70k a year

nope im not

im serious

[umbral rune]

Or are you serious like Walter White was

Oh dang

How

[olive talon]

right now im off work cuz of my back

[umbral rune]

Aahhh, so they paid you for that?

[olive talon]

yep

[umbral rune]

Nice

[olive talon]

insurance

otherwise i play only weekends

[umbral rune]

Is it raining or sunny rn in Europe?

[umbral rune]

Thats awesome

[olive talon]

rn its sunny

[umbral rune]

I try to play every day

[olive talon]

i wish i could tbh

[umbral rune]

Different games

[olive talon]

but right now im free

got a lot of time till next week hahah

[umbral rune]

Thats good, but why can't you play on the weekdays?

[olive talon]

´working full time

from 15pm till 00

[umbral rune]

40 hours?

[shell remnant]

how do i even select the weapon

[olive talon]

38 hours

[umbral rune]

I see

[modest jackal]

Is it a Hot Take to say I'm glad the Armoured Car is easier to destroy?

[umbral rune]

But what about when you get home?

Too tired I suppose?

[olive talon]

i slee pbro

[versed moon]

the one that for some reason took more rpgs than a ifv? yes

[shell remnant]

in fact, i think the team does not even have a UX expert. wth is going out of game to change weapon then back

[olive talon]

my wife will kill me if i turn the pc on

[umbral rune]

Wake up wake up run run run run

[olive talon]

after work

[umbral rune]

Yeah, when I used to do night shift, I'd go straight to sleep sometimes when I got home

But I love my free time too much

[modest jackal]

Aye, it was so obnoxious to deal with in Siege of Cairo Breakthrough.

[umbral rune]

4 hours of free time is wicked dude

[shell remnant]

how do i select a weapon to try in firing range?????

[olive talon]

I worked night shift for like 5 years man it killed me

[umbral rune]

Sucks that modern day society was built on working 9 hours a day...

[olive talon]

but u had so much free time in the day

[dusty fulcrum]

dude i do night shift and i go to bed at like 2 or 3 and wake up at 10:30 lmao

[umbral rune]

Go to the weapon itself and press whatever button you're supposed to press to go to firing range

[dusty fulcrum]

bro not having sleep kills you, sorry for butting in on your convo guys

[olive talon]

its ok u can butt anytime u like

[umbral rune]

I see. My nightshift was 10-6, so I'd get home by 7-9 and then either play a little bit or go to bed

[olive talon]

I started losing weight and became like a zombie after 5 years

[umbral rune]

Huh??

[olive talon]

he butted in our conversation lol

[umbral rune]

Nah dude, I was asleep during the day

[olive talon]

Its time to play the GAME!