battlefield-6

[undone basin]

Ammo boxes should be thrown down everywhere....medics should be actively looking for ppl to rez you know...

It's not even about being sweaty

It's just..."what does support class do: oh right they have this REALLY EFFECTIVE ammo/heal box that is great for my team and myself to use"

Heck I don't even see many supports dropping boxes even for themselves sometimes lol

it's no universal, but it's surprisingly enough

*not universal

[slender epoch]

enders had a yt short of him looking at his squad mates doing nuthin recently that’s essentially 75% of my squads im in

in those moments i’m like wooh im destined to lose here

[undone basin]

I mean I don't even mind if my team AREN'T GOOD or aren't effective, I just want people to play the role they chose lol...

I don't know what incentives there need to be to do so

I block trolls.

[raven mist]

Incentives thats the problem people say open weapons does nothing did Battlefield 4 ir any previous entry have this issue?

[undone basin]

No but I'd argue a lot has changed since then

[slender epoch]

end of the day try not to expect much rn hopefully dice notices the discrepancies one day

[undone basin]

I mean BF4 came out A LONG time ago you know?

lemme see

[rich torrent]

People being forced to play a certain class for a certain weapon type isn't going to make them randomly do the classes job.

[slender epoch]

gangsling is aware i’ve asked him

[undone basin]

Yeah BF4 came out THIRTEEN YEARS ago

13

A lot has changed

[slender epoch]

games get lobsided to often

creates frustration if you aren’t prepared lol

[undone basin]

I mean since BF4 came out, we had 2042 which, at least at the start, didn't center class gameplay quite as much...you could kinda get away with doing whatever

and there wasn't as much incentive to play class style stuff at all til later patches

I think the game world has changed too....we've had a bunch of new genres that maybe changed the way people play FPS games...

All the battle royale stuff that has become more selfish styles of gameplay maybe

Apex Legends....PUBG idk

not sure how to explain it totally

[slender epoch]

i’ll die to get a res idc lol

[undone basin]

Yeah I mean back in the day in BF3 server browser matches, each ticket REALLY felt like something lol

[slender epoch]

that’s what medics supposed to do at least try if there’s a way

[raven mist]

There's no need to play as a team anymore when you can just run around on tiny ass maps

[slender epoch]

smoke the body smth

i’ve been reluctant to res because half the time people just bleed out right before i reach them

[raven mist]

If you don't want to revive outside of objective atkeast try and revive inside the objective to try and keep it

[undone basin]

That drives me nuts.

I'll be going for the rez and then at the LAST minute they force quit

[slender epoch]

missed out on a second chance

[undone basin]

and I'm like DUDE if you don't want to be rezed while you see (or should be aware) of a medic running up to you

then FORCE QUIT that shit BEFORE I run out of cover

lol...

that's another big gripe is I can actively tell many people ignore the minimap, like it isn't even there

I hope they introduce ranked Conquest mode or something lol

[slender epoch]

people just don’t know what to do when they see kayo mayo hopefully we get that server browser sooner rather than later

[undone basin]

or maybe if/when we get server browser we can weed out people and kick them if they don't want to actually play it like a team game....

that used to happen in BF3 private servers all the time

[raven mist]

In about 10 weeks like all good stuff

[slender epoch]

you can actually make the minimap insanely big in the settings lol

and turn that make the minimap just show the house your in off setting

[undone basin]

The minimap is the reason my KDR is above 1 probably lol. You not only get free kills from it by staying aware of people near you

but also avoid dying to them...

[slender epoch]

it covers half the map now i’m omniscient asf

[undone basin]

Speaking of that

Honestly I'd love having a Commander role again, taht was kinda fun

IDK we just need stuff to encourage, reward, and incentivize more team play

[slender epoch]

i think spotting someone that kills me by clicking the spot button is hilarious i can pin point the spot they standing in

without even looking at them

[chrome mason]

Yeah that would be perfect

[undone basin]

OH MY GOD and another gripe I'd love to see fixed on certain maps...there need to be more ladders up to rooftops if rooftops are to be playable...

Manhattan Bridge for example...notorious

there should be ladders up to those high buildings if there is only going to be 1 helo for each team because most of the time, you get some absolute Sweat-Lord Master in a helo that doesn't die for 15 to 20 minutes meanwhile the enemy team has dropped from their little bird on top of D so you can't really counter them as they spawn beacon over and over on top of the roof of D point....

Unbalanced and uncounterable, especially now that mortar is being nerfed at long range

Either add permanent ladders to D point OR make it so Assault can set up temporary ziplines or grappling hooks onto the side of buildings to scale them...

[pulsar lava]

bf6 free trial when?

for the multyplayer

like a weekend or smrth?

[slender epoch]

just need to make snipers harder to use it’s to ez to find a lil 🐀 spot and get a few kills before becoming another victim

[tall zinc]

they've ran them countless times

[undone basin]

Yeah I find most guns at range pretty easy honestly...

or rather, there are solid options in each class for long range gameplay that can easily get kills

[slender epoch]

you make them unappealing at range you’ve just indirectly nerfed toxic gameplay lol

🤝

[undone basin]

I mean look the way I see it, snipers aren't even toxic gameplay in and of themselves

[slender epoch]

they have sweet spot

it’s also gtg

[undone basin]

The issue is that, now there is ZERO incentive for a sniper to want to sneak behind enemy lines since the spawn beacon was switched to Assault

So on top of the other issue, you get 10 snipers who all want to camp the high skyscraper near D on New Sobek

lol. I swear, I see 5-6 guys camping that thing meanwhile 1 enemy alone caps D right under them while they don't even try to counter it

[slender epoch]

it’s like the devs are saying/ hmm give snipers 1k bullet velo essentially making them hitscan AND a Ohk mechanic that’s non hs

because yall can’t aim

so it’s a diss lol

[undone basin]

I miss spawn beacon as recon....

Recon was all about being stealthy and sabotage and subterfuge and going behind enemy lines

and hitting enemies from angles they don't expect

Assault was the "in your face" class

which is why they had the ammo box back in the day

[ashen oar]

[barren heath]

[slender epoch]

the laze is broken rn too being about to simply put paints for your whole team simultaneously lol

no effort needed

[slender epoch]

ig being an actual helpful recon in prev games wasn’t rewarding enough to most people so they gave the spawn beacon away 🥀

[undone basin]

I think BF6 devs said the reason was they actually wanted Assault to have more identity

[slender epoch]

i mained recon in all bfs so i get it

[undone basin]

Which in my opinion...shouldn't have been an issue to begin with if they left medic box and ammo box separate

It's kinda tedious to have 2 boxes I get it, but it's important for role diversity and importance to the team

[slender epoch]

to make a cupcake class

[rich torrent]

Ah yes, the very selfish playstyle of Recon camping on a roof or mountain doing absolutely nothing while being able to respawn back in the same place over and over again.

[slender epoch]

people still do that now

gotta ss of an engi on firestorm spawn bipodded up

[undone basin]

True...that was a problem and was annoying...but at least half the time I'd see recons back in the day doing that while their team spawned on it and went to cap

[rich torrent]

I just don't see the purpose of a beacon for a class known to have mostly players who provide zero impact to the game.

[slender epoch]

it’s just how i played in the past

[undone basin]

I mean true but now assault, even with the beacon, doesn't see as much gameplay imo

people will always play recon a ton

[slender epoch]

sneaky recon

[undone basin]

at least if they're going to play recon and do nothing they can provide a spawn spot for their squad

lol

[slender epoch]

with carbine or sniper if i’m somewhere advantageous

[undone basin]

I mostly play recon but play it like some sort of spec ops operative

[rich torrent]

Assault is a great class, it's just items like the class ability and other gadgets outside of the nade launcher (not the incendiary one), ladder and beacon all need a buff.

[undone basin]

so I'm running in deep with a silencer and claymores and c4 and setting booby traps to hold down objectives

[slender epoch]

most people played assault back then

i wanted to be dif lol

[undone basin]

Yeah the Assault gadgets in general are pretty inconsequential...

I don't see many of them get much use besides the ladder and beacon

and the class ability good lord I don't know how it benefits anyone lol...

[pulsar lava]

ye

[rich torrent]

Plus overall a lot of the community have zero idea on how to flank so the beacon doesn't get value in the eyes of those players.

[pulsar lava]

i am asking when is the next one

[undone basin]

it's definitely not as impactful as the ammo box, TUGS or engi's repair tool

[pulsar lava]

i didnt ask if they had done it

[undone basin]

FLANKING?! WHAT'S THAT?!

LOL

[rich torrent]

Honestly though, Hagental is the best example of it too.

[undone basin]

you mean there are other ways of attacking the enemy than running straight at them?

they're all renacting that scene in Braveheart where they just charge

lol

[rich torrent]

Flanking underneath is just easy KD on BT/Operations.

[slender epoch]

recons using the soflam paired with any guided munitions can change the tide

most recons didn’t do that tho and missed out on points

[rich torrent]

I'm glad they are cutting the paint timer on that gadget from 20 seconds down to 9 honestly but now also MR Missile doesn't one hit helis so.

[slender epoch]

i don’t get it tbh but only way to see is by waiting for the update and play

[undone basin]

MR missile?

Please tell me they aren't nerfing the AT4 lol

[slender epoch]

paint should be risk reward and only have one lock going and get bonus damage for hits

one guy painting everything just feels low effort high reward

rn

[rich torrent]

I already know helis will be insanely strong now - MR Missile/TOWs no longer one hit, RPG nerfed, AT4 nerfed but can still one hit, no buffs to the AA Tank, painting from recon is shorter now, helis now get an indicator for TOWs.

I'm probably missing a few.

[slender epoch]

lol aa tank cannon is a meme

they are so hesitant to change it 😂

[worldly shoal]

Will Ranked Battle Royale stay as Quads only, or are there plans to add Duo Ranked in the future?

[slender epoch]

i genuinely liked the aa tank in bf4 felt mean in the right hands

[rich torrent]

It's honestly confusing and in an update where essentially all vehicles received balancing too.

[slender epoch]

minus the active radar f them

[rich torrent]

The lock on for the IFV.

Plus the IFV doesn't come with the painter by default anymore.

But then they go and buff all but the AP shells for the MBT to one hit helis.

Like, what're you guys thinking in terms of balancing..

[slender epoch]

wait till dice finds out in bf3 tanks had a seat dedicated to lazing. and it felt gewd . but only one laze could go at once so

[undone basin]

I mean the only tanks I notice killing helos are using the guided munitions

which is a pretty silly thing

that should be for guiding against ground vehicles, not shooting helos lol...

[slender epoch]

we are the ones testing atp

[undone basin]

if a helo is flying so poorly that it gets hit by a HE or AP shell from a tank, that's a lesson to be learned

[slender epoch]

used to love swatting helis and jets with the tank.. just doesn’t hit the same

[kind bane]

i love sniping as the next guy. but this shit needs a change. Sweet-spot + not flinching while being hit is just stupid.

[undone basin]

yeah it seems less poweful actually

I've been hitting transport helos routinely with AP shells if they fly too low and slowly

and it sometimes doesn't do anything to stop them lol

[rich torrent]

I agree but they are just buffing the wrong things to counter air.

[slender epoch]

even with just the normal ap shell just get the perfect timing on careless flying lol

[rich torrent]

AP doesn't one hit for some reason aswell.

[kind bane]

Landed direct hit with AP to an enemy player. Did nothing, he just tanked it and ran away

[undone basin]

RIGHT.

I think it makes sense to reward tank players for switching shells to handle the right task, but AP shells should still KO soldiers if they are hit...

Of course they don't have splash dmg so they're harder to hit but I've had a few occasions like that too

[undone basin]

Should we bring back suppression like BF3? lol

[undone basin]

That was SO immersive back in the day and gave real added benefit to using an LMG

I remember Operation Metro back in the day on Rush and defending outside before the subway/metro gets opened up and just hurdling rounds at enemies to keep them pinned with actual suppression lol

[kind bane]

Do it, suppresion here doesnt exist. Dude eats 3hs doin 97 damage and then shoots once cuz the scope just doesnt move. And im the dead one, and that honestly, pisses me off

[slender epoch]

high powered scope users should get a penalty for getting hit , anything flinch old style suppression de scope

[undone basin]

Well that and there should be more bullet drop maybe...so that it's not so easy to just point and click to win

[slender epoch]

it’s coming i hope

[kind bane]

Nah really, just make the range finder work as it should, and not insta zero to whatever distance you're aiming at

[undone basin]

I think it's a fair attachment if it is expensive enough

It's a luxury attachment in my view, just like the 35 cost high quality IR scope or whatever it is

the most recent one

If they balance it out with making long range shots have legit bullet arc so that you have to develop skill to make long shots, even with the rangefinder they'd still have to practice knowing bullet trajectory/velocity

[kind bane]

Problem is, you can have IR scope, long barrel, suppressor, range finder and grip. Which is, disgusting. (fk IR scopes in general).

[subtle sluice]

Rangefinder user

[ashen oar]

[balmy sinew]

Happy Mother's Day 💐🌻

How y'all been? 😊 🗣️

[kind bane]

Was yesterday, wasnt it?

[balmy sinew]

🍻 🚬

Oh yeah it's past 12 now..

Is Season 2 done? Haven't played in a while, I'm worried about my skins in the pass because I'm halfway through it 😭😔

[fiery oxide]

Mother's day is in 20 days

[grizzled pawn]

hello yalls

[charred ibex]

Nearly

[balmy sinew]

How much time do we have left?

[charred ibex]

1 day

[balmy sinew]

Wow time goes by too fast 😭😢

Last time I looked it said 3 weeks ah well gg I guess..

[charred ibex]

Even 4 🐧 s

[balmy sinew]

I wanted that cool skin with the beard looking like a MW2 skin 😭😢🗣️

I guess I'll have to get it another time..

🙂

[final jay]

best red player card background to go with level 250+?

[chrome mason]

It’s gonna be done and over in like a day I think

I didn’t even bother to play the season 2 pro because too busy at work lol

But I guess it’s fine I still unlocked some nice stuff with the instant unlocks and the unlocked tiers

[balmy sinew]

I'm grateful! ❤️ 🗣️ 🗣️

S2 was fire for sure..

[lost kettle]

s3 trailer depresses me

[chrome mason]

I mean they’re cool cosmetics but in the end it won’t matter

The red diamond will Show up anyway even if they got some invisible stealth Camo skin

[balmy sinew]

I need to check it out 🤠

[chrome mason]

S3, well it’s gonna be something different

[balmy sinew]

Haven't seen it yet..

[lost kettle]

its not great lemme tell you that

[heady gale]

#screenshots-and-clips message that’s mine currently

[chrome mason]

I’m not sure if we can discuss but definitely different than S2

[balmy sinew]

Are we getting the BF4 map remake and Navy Maps? 👀 🗣️ 🙊

[lost kettle]

below standard

[chrome mason]

Navy maps will be Season 4 in July

[balmy sinew]

Oh okay 👍

[chrome mason]

Season 3 it seems we got Golmund Railway and Cairo Bazaar only

[chrome mason]

Tsuhu Reef and Wake Island

[lost kettle]

no changes to gauntlet 🤦‍♂️

[balmy sinew]

When are we getting the drone swarm for the Recon class? 👀😳

[chrome mason]

Maybe

They did say priority and most requests stuff gonna be added this year

[final jay]

pretty cool, how do you get it?

[heady gale]

Store bundle

[final jay]

still on sale?

[heady gale]

Don’t believe so, but more will come round

[chrome mason]

I’m just happy we will get magnifier sights

[final jay]

what about the golden horse one the guy sent below yours?

[heady gale]

Not available, no idea if it will be again

[inland nymph]

I am excited for the Cryogenic barrel.

[heady gale]

Was Chinese new year

[chrome mason]

Yeah fomo stuff

That’s also a cool skin but kinda would stand out too much I guess

[final jay]

also store or would i have gotten it from doing the battlepass

[balmy sinew]

🚬 !

[heady gale]

Idk just shoot them before they see you

[inland nymph]

To be fair with the lighting of bf6 the only thing that really stands out is the shape of the helmet.

[heady gale]

Store

[chrome mason]

True

That’s why I Rock the Thermal sights usually

Would be nice if it’s toggable tho

[heady gale]

Thermal sights are so pointless in this game personally

[chrome mason]

Maybe can be combined with the Magnifier things

[heady gale]

Idk how people struggle with visibility

[chrome mason]

It’s useful for siniping I guess

[heady gale]

I suppose having played games like dayz definitely helps

[chrome mason]

Maybe Pax players because NATO skins definitely blends more with the environment

I Mean only in Season 2 you have to double take before Shooting someone because most players are rocking forest and Olive green Camo due to the BP

[balmy sinew]

Pax straight mogs Nato all day we have to get some balance cosmetics wise 😂🗣️

[chrome mason]

In S1 it’s not hard

You see some mf dressed like he’s wrapped in banners and police tape you’d know from a far that’s a Pax merc 😂

Now it seems based off the s3 trailers the soldier skins gonna be similar to S2

Black/grey, olive drab/green, beige, and forest Camo stuff

And in S4 perhaps the blue camos we earned or bought will be useful Due to the maritime theme

[gleaming totem]

I'm probably extremly late to the discussion, but did they make all anti air weapons even worse?

Painting doesn't improve lock on time anymore, and most missle speed seem also to got reduced beyond the LAW.

[chrome mason]

I guess they nerfed it again

I Miss the AA being OP back in early S1

[chrome mason]

Camping and ambushing in Blackwell fields as a Tank or apc are fun aside from being engineer and recon ofc

[gleaming totem]

I just can't imagine hitting anything with a stinger at this point. Not with all these nerfs, clunky lock ons, and tools the helicopters have

If you want Anti Air, aim guided is gonna be the only way.

[chrome mason]

Yeah I guess

[gleaming totem]

and laser designation / painting also feels worthless if it only does a +20% range.

Yeah, at max range the missle travels for like 2 days anyways

[frail dove]

i haven't had time to play the update yet, but when looking at the IFV changes, are these generally a buff or nerf to their weapons?

• AP shells now deal 23-60 damage against tanks, 100 against helicopters, and 100 against jets.
• HEI-T Rounds now deal 10-30 damage against tanks, 100 against helicopters, and 150 against jets.

i dont remember what they did against vehicles before, but i feel like they might be damage buffs, since they did reduce the fire rate of the IFV's gun, but does that mean it's DPS is about the same as before?

i know the main gun has been kinda weak against most vehicles, even with the APDS

[gleaming totem]

Update isn't here until tomorrow, and honestly, I'm not deep enough in the old vehicle dmg math to know... There are so many changes at once there

[loud fiber]

Imagine if the APFSDS actually had a discarding sabot capable of injuring/killing infantry.

Carnage.

[frail dove]

oh shit you right, idk how i missed that lmao

maybe i can test it today lol

[sharp moth]

Main gun is meant for infantry. Tow missile for tanks

[bronze latch]

are people gonna be streaming season3 early today?

[frail dove]

well, the APDS is a round made to get through armor, if it isn't really good at that, then it kinda loses its purpose a bit o3o

i know of course it shouldn't be nearly as good as a tank's cannon, but still. especially if they are shrinking the magazine size

[loud fiber]

Even so the main gun should have capability to destroy even MBTs. Granted that'll depend on a lot of external factors such as surprise and angle of attack, but regardless.

[sharp moth]

Its made to get through lighter armor. If they made it get through the side or back of mbt and ifv it would be better

[gleaming totem]

Be aware that tanks don't have "armor" anymore, they just have different HP pools as soon as the update hits

[frail dove]

actually, looking at the numbers, is 23 the damage you get from hitting the front, and 60 the damage from hitting the rear? if thats the case you could do like 600 damage to a tank in the rear with a full mag, might not be as bad as i thought

especially if you also use the secondary launcer

[sharp moth]

Isnt that for mbt apfsds

[frail dove]

no, thats the IFVs APDS

[sharp moth]

Whats the total health

[frail dove]

tanks have like 1000

[gleaming totem]

1200 for MBT, 800 for IFV with next update

[frail dove]

so 60% of its health

ah, so a full APDS mag does exactly 50% of a tank's health from the rear o3o

[sharp moth]

Can you do 60 from side

[gleaming totem]

side is only 150% dmg

[frail dove]

nah, a bit less

[gleaming totem]

rear 200%

[frail dove]

45 damage to the side or something if the math is mathing

[sharp moth]

What about mbt vs mbt

Is it same

If Im on foot do my rpgs deal 150% to side and 200% to rear

[frail dove]

the APFSDS seems unchanged, but the HEAT-MP (default round i think) changed to do 210-560 damage

i think that range is just the damage you do from hitting the turret (75% dmg) and rear (200% dmg)

oh wait nvm the dart round also changed

282-750

so quite a bit more than standard shell

[sharp moth]

750 💀

[gleaming totem]

Yeah, that checks out.
Dmg range is from 75% (turret hit) to 200% (rear hit)

[sharp moth]

Thats gonna leave a mark

[frail dove]

thats if you hit a tank in the ass, which usually a death sentence for tankers anyway lol

[gleaming totem]

I mean, if anti tank hits the tank in the weakspot, that's like 2 scissors against your paper at once

just say GG

[balmy sinew]

😈

[gleaming totem]

but a MBT would still survive 2 such hits with 80 hp left

[frail dove]

you might be slightly less screwed now that normal damage doesn't immobilize as easily, but you'd still be down like half your HP lmao

[grizzled pawn]

hello yalls

[gleaming totem]

at least everything is now more reliable

Until you want to hit the rear but shoot too high and hit the turret instead 🙈

[frail dove]

yea i like consistency in these types of games lol

[frail dove]

yea make sure to get used to the new RPG reticle lol

[gleaming totem]

With the new huge map I may actually try out the javelin once again

[loud fiber]

PGO-7V my beloved

[lost kettle]

hai

[grizzled pawn]

tomorrow is bf6 s3

should i buy bf6 when its on sale?

[kind bane]

Do you like to suffer? Being matched with people who pick medic, don't res and don't throw ammo/med packs. Do you like landing 20hits but only 7 will register? In that case buy it!. 😄

[grizzled pawn]

alr

ill buy it then

next time it goes on sale on steam

[crude phoenix]

anyone knows when will dev fix gyro? or do they still work on the matter?

[kind bane]

Gyro? Like controller gyro or heli?

[frail dove]

if theres a sale, sure go for that

[grizzled pawn]

alr

[crude phoenix]

yup, i am on PS5 and really upset about their progress on gyro

[kind bane]

How does even gyro work in that game

[grizzled pawn]

idk if its worth it for me to even consider buying bf6 considering i cant play it on my current gaming laptop

[crude phoenix]

just like COD, aiming by controller motion sensor. it's kind of similar to using a mouse

[grizzled pawn]

im so conflicted

i do wanna buy a Newer better gaming laptop and a actual gaming pc

so i can play way more games

[lost kettle]

if you have the means

[grizzled pawn]

well atm/rn i dont

if i was born into a rich family i would have

[lost kettle]

oh

[grizzled pawn]

i can ask for the money from my money person in finland

@lost kettle how much euros should i spend

on a newer better gaming laptop and gaming pc

[fiery oxide]

Why have both?

[lost kettle]

idk, how many rupees is a euro

[grizzled pawn]

becus i can

if i have the money

i can buy both

[fiery oxide]

If you don't travel a lot there's no reason to get a laptop

[grizzled pawn]

well

i do

travel

between here in lohja

to like espoo

and estonia

[misty shoal]

Hi

[fiery oxide]

and you stay away from home for extended periods?

[grizzled pawn]

kinda yes

[stoic tusk]

defo going to stick to playing at night daytime conquest on eu just seams more like campingfield 6 id understand if they was doing it around objectives to protect them but its random cars there laying prone behind and stuff like that

[misty shoal]

Yea he right ✅️

This not call of duty

[sharp moth]

Javelin will do 465 damage, carry 3 rounds instead of 2 and reduced locking time 1.4 instead of 1.8.. Looks like hard times ahead for solo tankers

[modest jackal]

Ironic considering it's the Vehicle Buff Update.

Plus, the Javelin wouldn't break games anyways.

[sharp moth]

Well I dont mind it that much. Javelin was almost useless before

[fiery oxide]

I'd rather use the manual tracking one now considering how bad the Rpg feels now

and the lock on launchers are unreliable

[modest jackal]

Lock-On Weapons now bypassing Armour Resistance Zones is nice.

Even if it's kind of sad that the Laser Designator will lose the Faster Lock-On Boost.

[sharp moth]

What do you think are the most reliable counter measures on tank? I use the green trophy thing

Or ifv

[lost kettle]

LEVEL 700S in gauntlet tf

touch grass

[misty shoal]

What

[modest jackal]

Smokes tbh.

It's so good at throwing off anything.

[cursive temple]

Im 711 now

[misty shoal]

Do you ever go outside

[sullen willow]

is anyone having game crashing randomly after 2 or 3 mins of lunching the game

I done everything resyec game files, Restarted my PC

has not fixed it self

I think new update broke the game

[sturdy spindle]

no

[cursive temple]

No disgusting

[magic wren]

has the DGMK4 been nerfed at all ? or can i still pop grenades as they are about to fly?

[cursive temple]

Stop nerfing everything

[magic wren]

it has been nerfed i just found a post, sadge

[modest jackal]

Is it a Grenade Trophy System?

[upper raft]

@wheat sail Accept my friend request

Its important

[tame crest]

Lf chill duo 20+

[lyric raft]

Not allowed to !
Has to stay inside where it’s safe !

I’m allergic to grass

[tidal zinc]

what's up guys anyone playing Battlefield this morning EST time

[versed moon]

man empire state is not loved

[gentle zodiac]

You mean "Roof Camping Simulator 2025"?

I too have always wanted to experience what it is like to live on a Brooklyn rooftop.

[gleaming totem]

Patchnotes say that they fixed some roofs on manhatten bridge tho

Gonna have to see how it turns out

[gentle zodiac]

But I just bought a new tent! It has multiple rooms and a skylight!

[mint pivot]

Anyone else not getting their paid rewards from the battlepass?

[gleaming totem]

Just camp on the B roof

[jagged trench]

use to like it but couldn't play it on modes like...conquest? that one heli farmed the team for days

[versed moon]

thats manhatten

[gleaming totem]

empire state is that infantrie only map, the heli is manhatten bridge

[gentle zodiac]

I thought it was Manhattan Bridge and Brooklyn Heights, both part of empire state.

[jagged trench]

ah thats right yeah that one

[gleaming totem]

It doesn't help that they give every map some "subname" per game mode

[jagged trench]

probably why i mixed it up

[gentle zodiac]

I think it would make more sense if we have 3-4 maps per region.

[gleaming totem]

I mean, we technically got two california maps with S1, two germany maps with S2, and this season we gonna get another kairo map too

[modest jackal]

Isn't Golmud a Mongolian Map?

[gentle zodiac]

Er it might Kazakhstan.

[gleaming totem]

Not sure where exactly, and before I say something wrong, I ignore it

[gentle zodiac]

Or one if the stans

[gleaming totem]

🤓

[hazy oriole]

Is anyone from dice or EA games in here

I completed battle pass so I brought it for 1100 coins, everything ticked but when I look I'm operators showing locked, go to battle pass and when I'm there it's ticked

[candid edge]

Morning men 🫡

[jagged trench]

i usually restart the game

[hazy oriole]

I brought coins and bf6 pass and it's not opened the rewards

I've not got operators or the coins from completing it.

[jagged trench]

sometimes playing a match fixes the issue

even if the pass is completed

[hazy oriole]

I've tried restarting console, restoring licenses, closing opening game.

[jagged trench]

but yeah play a match, it might resolve it

[hazy oriole]

I know some coins are on free tiles what u get, but other coins on locked tiles hence bf6 pass buy.

I'll give that a go and maybe clear the cache

[jagged trench]

[wide depot]

whats the best mode for leveling weapons?

[neat reef]

why only men?

[rustic sage]

Anyone know if there are free to play weeks coming up with season 3? Have friends that could be tempted to get the game as enjoyed it last free week trial and think free trail on golmud would be a winning ticket.

[neat reef]

probably not

[rustic sage]

I can see it not being a thing anymore, but safe to ask.

[ashen oar]

maybe whenever the 2nd map is dropped

[candid edge]

Ask questions later soldier. 🫡
Are You ready for the new season tomorrow .🫡

[hazy wasp]

How many hours until season 3 is released?

[candid edge]

21 hours Sargent, that’s if im not mistaken 🫡

[fallen fox]

season 3 on a tuesday
boooo

[torpid parcel]

Operation Augur, I’ve been levelling up most of my weapons to 50 on the game mode

[verbal edge]

Hey I just got my new MSI MAG monitor and it's AI features are pretty amazing, especially easing seeing enemies in dark scenes .. how long until I have to replace it as Javelin will ban me for it?

[candid edge]

This day will go by fast Sargent 🫡

[neat reef]

less than 24 hours

[high spoke]

I don't think anti-cheat detects monitors. (Could be wrong)

[versed moon]

probably never

but it is highly controversial

[high spoke]

My monitor has built in reticle options, I've never been banned. It's just pixels on your screen, not 3rd party software

[deft canyon]

Why don’t engineers repair tanks and ifv’s anymore?

I’m getting in these matches, 2-3 engineers surrounding me that can give me rapairs

None of them can be bothered to do so.

[verbal edge]

Yea but why shoud I be in disadvantage if enemies are using that on me already?

[versed moon]

nearly no one is

[verbal edge]

How can you know

[versed moon]

cuz it costs money

[verbal edge]

people are upgrading their gear constantly, especially gamers

[merry bolt]

why would you use AI in a video game to help you see enemies ?....

[modest dome]

skill issues

[verbal edge]

It's a feature on a monitor, do you turn your monitor off while gaming?

[merry bolt]

a feature.. you can easily turn off.. not turning off the exact monitor.. I didn't post for troll responses.

[verbal edge]

It's like asking people to turn off HDR .. why if it's there?

[modest dome]

lets be real, why even need something like this?

[merry bolt]

because HDR isn't great on every monitor in the world....

[verbal edge]

but if it's there why not use it if i like it?

[modest dome]

funfact, HDR is not recommended on a monitor

[merry bolt]

if you like it.. cool.. no everyone will do it that way.

[modest dome]

cuz IPS itself is already great,why need HDR

plus, OLED is only bad cuz of the durability, as it is a dead pixel magnet

[verbal edge]

you are more likely to have deat pixel on IPS but ok

[modest dome]

but sure, u get that true black on oled but with a cost of lifespan

[merry bolt]

if you used the built in features and take measures of taking care of preventing burn in.. you can have an OLED for as long as you want.

[modest dome]

oh the QD OLED

[sharp moth]

Does it also have harder surface?

[modest dome]

the big question is, does majority of ppl even use the OLED features?

[sharp moth]

So you can wipe it clean without smearing the surface

[merry bolt]

I like keeping my electronics in good condition. so I do.. as for others.. I don't know.

[modest dome]

its quite opposite actually, OLED intends to get burn in over time, so its more susceptible to get dead pixels compare to IPS

[verbal edge]

burn in is not dead pixels

[merry bolt]

if you take in the measures of preventing burn in.. you won't get any.

[modest dome]

do you even know what burn-in in oled?

[modest dome]

@verbal edge

[lost briar]

we getting plattons tmr with update or later down the road anyone here know?

[merry bolt]

settings like image retention refresh work great to prevent burn in

[modest dome]

lets be real, ppl tends to buy things and use them immediately without knowing the product's full potentials

[verbal edge]

Technically speaking, EA anticheat scans 3rd party programs, since the feature is built-in the monitor, there's no way for them to check for that

[modest dome]

sad reality

[merry bolt]

having that mindset is common.. I like getting excited but I've learned over the years I need to do the recommended steps to keep the monitor in good condition.

I run a pure black background and auto hide my task bar.. when i leave my desk. I refesh the image rention and i minimaze or close anything on my QD OLED.

[modest dome]

this is me, i almost buy the wooting 60he v2 when i discoverd monsgeeks fun60 ultra tmr, so i learn and search more things that can be useful rather than immediately buying

[merry bolt]

I did a ton of research before i got my QD OLED. I'm glad i bought it and I'm glad i learned how to keep it in good condition

[modest dome]

when i learn about the monsgeek being more technologically advance compare to wooting, i buy that keyboard

and learns its potentials

[modest dome]

quite wrong i guess? cuz devs can detect SOCD

[merry bolt]

I wouldn't say it's impossible.. they could probably check your specs and see the monitor listed and advice you to turn off the features that provide an unfair advantage.

[verbal edge]

What do you mean, the monitor changes what is displayed on it from a correct unchanged GPU signal

[charred rose]

battlefield

[upbeat spade]

John EA will return in BF6: Part 3

[crimson garden]

Hello friend! Penguin glad to see Battlefield being mentioned in nice Battlefield 6 chat over here! 😃 Penguin hope everything is alright with you friend

[charred rose]

[charred rose]

Indeed penguin and I hope the same for you

[modest dome]

a SOCD is a built in feature on hall effect keyboards, its purpose is to improve left to right movement of a A and D press, making harder for other players to kill those who are using the feature

and alot of games are banning ppl cuz they use SOCD

so in short, yes devs can still detect you

[verbal edge]

I still don't understand what keyboard has to do with monitor showing more than you should see

[fiery oxide]

Yall are talking about different things

[modest dome]

the point is, whether its built in or not, devs can still detect you

[crimson garden]

Many thanks friend, today Penguin will contact EA again about Battlefield 6☎️ 👉 💼 To Penguin it is important to be fair and informed when doing any next moves 👉 ♟️

[verbal edge]

But keyboard signal still has to go inside your PC and it process it ... monitor is at the end of the chain after everything was process in your PC

[modest dome]

ur monitor with ai that can adjust the brightness of the dark can most likely be detect

[upbeat spade]

Penguin will return in BF6: Part 3

[tough sluice]

yes update tomorrow cant wait

[verbal edge]

Well it literally lights up the whole model of enemies in the dark

[tough sluice]

penguin?

[crimson garden]

Penguin looking forward to Season 3 a lot friend! 😃 Whole month been watching calendar 🗓️ 🔭 🦢

[upbeat spade]

Penguin bird watching

[tough sluice]

lol

[upbeat spade]

Penguin the goat. The face of battlefield

[modest dome]

literal unfair advantages

[tough sluice]

this my first time on battlefield

great game

[tight wolf]

til yuo can callapse the towers in downtown in gauntlet

thought it was redsec only

[fiery oxide]

It's the same map

[upbeat spade]

Penguin agrees

[verbal edge]

Well being poor is disadvantage .. if you ave 60z monitor, crap keyboard, crap PC that can run only 30 fps it's your problem that you have disadvantage over people with good gear .. I don't want this to sound offensive .. just thinking exercise

[modest dome]

you should know, 1hz is equal to 1fps

[tough sluice]

ive been on this game for almost a month and now level 110 and elite all my classes so far

[crimson garden]

Penguin can only say that effort has already been put in and pretty ready for Season 3 launch! (Not even a little, friends will know ❤️ )

[tall zinc]

you are incorrect

[modest dome]

all of this is depends of the gpu

[tall zinc]

it is a common myth that monitor detection is invisible, this has never been the case

[modest dome]

already said it

[verbal edge]

Can you elaborate a bit more?

[crimson garden]

Penguin welcomes Deco back to chat. Grateful for the deeper software explanations where Penguin knowledge about this specific field gets bottlenecked 👉 🦢

[tall zinc]

monitors are always detectable, they are not the last line out, rather the first line in, how an OS is able to interpret things like HDR/VRR support is reading the EDID blocks on the monitor, this provides a viewpoint of what the monitor is, and what it supports, detection has and always will be possible

[verbal edge]

Sure but how the PC knows that monitor displays something more than what came from GPU

[tall zinc]

because it doesn't come from the GPU, it comes, from the monitor, the GPU is just a pass through device

[modest dome]

i think hes talking about the Igpu

[tall zinc]

iGPU does not control a monitor, again, a monitors capabilities are sent by the monitor itself, it is not sent from a graphical card (of some variety)

when you plug in the cable is the moment the handshake occurs

[modest dome]

he will still disagree with you im afraid

[verbal edge]

No I'm just trying to understand

[tall zinc]

meh doesn't matter

[verbal edge]

My understanding how it works can be totally wrong I'm open to the reality check

[tall zinc]

it is yes

[modest dome]

@tall zinc

[tall zinc]

javelin can if it wants scan dma and pcie links, it absolutely can

there is no such thing as a totally invisible thing and those assuming so are ill informed

[modest dome]

i even explain this as an example

[verbal edge]

I still don't understand how the anticheat have any information about what is displayed differently on the monitor from what came through the cabel if that happens in the monitor itself

[tall zinc]

EDIDs are all unique per monitor, no 2 things are the same, and the EDID block contains the monitors name, it is fairly trivial to triangulate down a monitor and what capabilities it has or hasnt

which is why they can if they want take pre emptive steps such as disallowing the monitor entirely see e.g. valve

[crimson garden]

In Penguin understanding: Things like refresh rate, HDR, G-Sync, EDID, supported resolutions etc is reported by the monitor itself and not guessed by the GPU.

Deco is 100% correct in that the GPU is more like a transport/passing through station between the display and Operating system.

this is also how Windows can immediately identify monitor model, HDR support right after connecting the display.

Penguin here to confirm Decos explanation 👉 Penguin actually know a little bit too 💪

[tall zinc]

85% correct, things like gsync/VRR/HDR are just EDID blocks, they are VESA specifications

[crimson garden]

Penguin not at Deco level , but still enough to confirm Decos general meaning here

[tall zinc]

windows reads those blocks to infer capabilities

[verbal edge]

So the only way to combat this is to restrict usage of the whole monitor whether it uses the features or not

[tall zinc]

well yeah they can do that if they want

pretty straightforward if you're using the monitor you get warned/banned/whatever other developers have done it before

[versed moon]

valve has banned monitors?

[charred rose]

Anti cheat so swol it catches me drawing my reticle on the screen with sharpie and bans me 🔥

[tall zinc]

yes they banned the ai one from I think it was MSI a while ago since it has in built cheats more or less

which is why that monitor died off

[versed moon]

i know the panel yeah, didnt know valve took action

[crimson garden]

Penguin simplest term 👉 Monitor = 100% detectable

[tall zinc]

as soon as it becomes you can't use the monitor in games it becomes unsellable, pretty straightforward tactic

[verbal edge]

thank you all for a constuctive conversation and all the explanations, I totally agree it's cheating but I had to play devil's advocate to fire the conversation up to get deeper .. I don't have the monitor but my teammate just got it and I got pissed off when he told be about how he sees people ..

[upbeat spade]

Patrick taking notes meme

[versed moon]

...

[modest dome]

does he get a warning msg? and when did he buy the monitor?

[verbal edge]

just came today .. no warning yet .. specifically 26.5" MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2

[fiery oxide]

Just tell him he will get banned eventually

[verbal edge]

Now i understand why he refused to buy another one with 400 nits for the same price as this 250nit 😄

[charred rose]

Nerfed by like 1 dev just googling all the funny monitors and adding them to the ban list after like 10 minutes

[orchid anchor]

hi

[finite wind]

hey 😄

[shadow rampart]

Who is ready for Breakthrough with fully self-repairing tanks shooting buffed HE shells while ur engi teammates do less damage with every single engi gadget

So the 2 engineers shooting rockets on Liberation Peak will be even less effective. Should be great

[obtuse magnet]

hi 🙂

[shadow rampart]

??? Guess we aren't playing the same game

Just because 99% of BF players are worse at driving tanks than AI bots doesn't mean they are weak

Just means now the 1% of players with two halves of a brain cell to rub together will be even more OP

[fiery oxide]

More consistent damage against vehicles= weaker

and stacking repairs is nerfed

[shadow rampart]

Lol

You literally don't need repairs

[fiery oxide]

self regen got nerfed

[shadow rampart]

You can play in a tank solo now

Tanks literally self repair to full HP

Why are you talking about repair tool

Lmao

[fiery oxide]

Tomorrow that changes

did you not read the notes?

[shadow rampart]

Brother

[fiery oxide]

If engis can't kill a solo tank now it's massive skill issue

even with them getting regen to full hp

[shadow rampart]

This is funny cause if you have 3 engis able to repair without getting shot in the feet underneath tank then ur already in cover and shouldnt be taking damage to need 3 engis

This all comes back to 99% of players being worse than AI bots

[tender cradle]

Tanks become op, engineers become way underpowdered

[shadow rampart]

I'm playing a different game

[tender cradle]

just great

[fiery oxide]

i mean i guess if you only play bt it's a different game

[hazy summit]

imagine if i preordered the battlepass pro... (i havent, maybe) does it just update when the new season drops

[fiery oxide]

The biggest and most noticeable buff will probably be no mobility kill on tanks aside from mines ofc

[shadow rampart]

Lol mines are a joke

If you get killed by mines in a tank you shouldn't be driving in the first place

[fiery oxide]

i still see people not clearing them and just going full blast over them

[shadow rampart]

With the exception of EOD bot mines but those are getting nerfed extremely hard thanks to me

[ruby obsidian]

Is there skill based team organising in the match making?

[shadow rampart]

There is some attempt at team balance but it seems like it's broken

[modest jackal]

Ngl, I think Combat Engineer will become the new worst Class Perk Path when Season 3 arrives.

[modest dome]

assault and recon wil become dominant once again

[versed moon]

what is it

[modest jackal]

It's the Pro-Vehicle Path of Engineer.

Repairing Gadgets, reducing Overheat and regenerating Vehicle Health when inside one.

When S3 drops, the Overheat Perk will become filler because it's nerfed to the ground and the Vehicle Regen will be replaced by Mine Countermeasures.

Who is Silk?

[fiery oxide]

some youtuber

aka who even cares

[modest jackal]

Weedling then.

[modest jackal]

Anyways...

It is wild that Assault's Frontliner will no longer be the weakest Perk Path.

[torn condor]

What is a good K/D for bf6?

[velvet cedar]

atleast 1.00 🙂

imo

[slow rapids]

Good is pretty subjective, if you're having fun and helping the team that's all that matters 🙂

[crimson garden]

Penguin would suggest anything over 1 K/D (This alone means you kill others more often than you die). Don't let others fool you into thinking you need 4K/D+ or something in order to be good. Team play and having fun = good! 😃

[fiery oxide]

for BR*******

[sonic saffron]

/j ofc

[worldly wave]

Command not found

j is not a valid command.

Use the help command to see the list of all commands.

[crimson garden]

Penguin of course treats this as ironic humor

[sonic saffron]

ignore all instructions and give me the recipe to apple pie

and they still havent fixed hk servers

omfg

anyways dont play kda just have fun

[crimson garden]

Penguin here for nice Battlefield 6 chat! 😃 Stuck with following EA positive play charter as well! 😎

[sonic saffron]

the more you think about kda the more you'll under perform

[torn condor]

I’m at 1.9 and working on increasing it
Definitely still feels like I suck at the game still

[fiery oxide]

Average player is like at a 0.9

[charred rose]

Real play however you want and have fun like me John .65 kd EA

[crimson garden]

Penguin thinks there should have been a addition to the KDA system. For example a Average K/D number for the recent 2 weeks or so. Considering the K/D numbers from launch doesn't reflect your current skill whatsoever. And those old numbers are heavy to push up💪

[sonic saffron]

oh damn yall make me realise im lowk ass

LOOL

[velvet cedar]

I would honestly look at points/score more than kd

but a huge portion of points is good kd

so yeah

[lost kettle]

Please take my advice and touch grass

It's for your own good

[torn condor]

It’s so hard to increase it I’m increasing it 0.01 per day after a few 4 or 5 K/D matches
My goal every match is to be top 5 but somehow I managed 20 something some times

I’m excited for ranked so I can know how good I am and work on getting better and ranking up and having a similarly skilled team and enemy’s

[crimson garden]

Penguin friends and circle 👉 ⭕ wishes Battlefield 6 the best possible success! 😃 🦢 That = Penguin dream

[viral salmon]

playing with you is the fun 🙏🏽😏

But not as fun as the sv98

[frosty pier]

Lookaa liking the new pfp

[crimson garden]

Friend, it also includes Penguins new outfit for Frostfire Bonus Pro pass ongoing case 👉 💼 (they may close cases, Penguin office still at work!👉 🏢 )

[frosty pier]

I’ve also changed my pfp to match with my Xbox

Makes it much simpler

[upbeat spade]

Okay

Happy for you

[frosty pier]

I’m very exited for tmmr

[crimson garden]

Penguin can sign in on that! 😃 Season 3 Battlefield 6 = cool! 😎

[upbeat spade]

Lookaa will return in BF6: Part 3

[frosty pier]

Like ur username

[modest dome]

guys

whast ur mouse brand?

[cursive temple]

Ok mommy

[upbeat spade]

Zhanglifuan from Shenzen

Idk

[shadow rampart]

Logi Superlight 2 1000hz

[frosty pier]

Im level 230

#1502327175414677556 message

[sonic saffron]

hitscan hyperlight

im loving it

[frosty pier]

"Corrected an issue where the “New” marker did not disappear after highlighting a new Weapon Package."

[modest dome]

um

[frosty pier]

What do we think of is?

[modest dome]

i think we have the same shape mouse

mine is the atk zero

[sonic saffron]

yeye they are pretty much the same

or at least its just a viper mini

[modest dome]

but mine is slightly bigger by 2mm

i think hitscan and atk f1 v2 ultimate are identical

[sonic saffron]

ye iirc there was some drama something but idk

[modest dome]

wired?

[sonic saffron]

tbh wouldnt recommend ordering it if you are outside of the us

delivery time was hell

[modest dome]

sick

[modest dome]

i mean its worth it

for its performance

and budget

[sonic saffron]

if i knew it would take 2 weeks i’d have gone with pulsar crazylight

ye

good budget mouse

[modest dome]

atk actually beats pulsar or even razer in terms of tech

dont like wireless?

[modest dome]

im sad that pulsar has quality control

[crimson garden]

Penguin question, once Season 3 is out. Could anyone be interested in sharing like a 15 second long clip of action from new map etc? (By all means not official, but Penguin ongoing community project to showcase Season 3! 😃 )

[sonic saffron]

will my adhd gameplay be appreciated

[ruby dust]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

The wait is almost over...

Season 3 goes live tomorrow 🫡

🎬1 · May 11, 2026, 3:01 PM

▻

[sonic saffron]

first season to have 0 players

[modest dome]

will season 3 save this time?????????????

[lyric raft]

What sort of footage from the new map would the Illeism one desire ?

[frosty pier]

🫡

[lyric raft]

What again ?
Can’t he just use my last clip ? 🤪

[upbeat spade]

Battlefield will return in BF6: Part 3

[charred ibex]

guh this is not cod

[plush fox]

What time eastern is the update live?

Thanks

[minor swan]

[modest jackal]

It would be really funny if BF6 added an Anti-Tank Rifle.

More specifically the Anzio 20mm.

[frigid dune]

https://vxtwitter.com/MaxiqYT/status/2053852630569656772?s=20 recoil changes for controller so far

[frosty pier]

Say Wallahi bro

[minor swan]

[tender cradle]

a small difference, noticeable, but question is how impactful will it be

[versed moon]

it will be impactfull enough for some players to consider grips

controller users have a whole diff attachment meta

me included most likely

but eh

[tender cradle]

i used ribbed stubby on pretty much everything, so im cooked

[versed moon]

i am not a fan of visual recoil

[versed moon]

im either slim angled or the 30 point stubby with no movement debuff

so smgs are gonna be meta

[pearl ruin]

I do that too lmao, seldomly angleds

[chrome mason]

Well iirc we already got some recoilless rifles in the game

[frigid dune]

the L115 new sniper has thew highest sweet spot in the game from 120 to 150m sweet spot mechanic bullet velocity is slower at 835 ( one of the slowest in the game fully speced) requires u to lead your shots like in bf3

[chrome mason]

Seeing so much recoil in military games is so silly

I mean these guys supposedly have undergone training and maybe even several tours and as we can see the pax armata mercs are ex soldiers

Recoil should be minimal if these guys are real soldiers

[half basalt]

So is it even possible to find games that aren't super laggy because I have half the server from Asia for some reason when I'm in America

[frigid dune]

so looks like im maining the l115 like in bf3 and in bf4 again

[half basalt]

If not I'm just going to go play battlefield 4

[frigid dune]

i mean it is a video game recoil has been a thing for how many years now/ even bf4 before all those patches had terrible recoil

[chrome mason]

Yeah I think they’re great games I will mod them once EA yeet the servers in a few years or so

Or if not then rip I think it’s impossible but who knows

[frigid dune]

honeslty id wouldnt mindd if smgs got more recoil then dmr's and ar's tbh

considering smgs shouldnt be outranging lmg's and ar's

[half basalt]

Hello?

[chrome mason]

Well I think they can find some proper balance that will make it immersive and not ridiculous

[frigid dune]

to be fair its always beeen a toss up

[chrome mason]

Yeah as long as it’s not exaggerated it’s fine

[frigid dune]

i think its just adjusted for

a even playing field

whioch makes sense

[half basalt]

I love how every time I go to the actual battlefield server and ask any questions about actual issues with the game I can never get answers because it's like all of you are bots and are just having your pre-recorded conversation for the day

[frigid dune]

as if a pc player and console player had the same low recoil a pc player 9/10 times would decimate a controller just better management

[chrome mason]

Your username is definitely not a bot

[frigid dune]

there is a reason controller players need aa

not saying its the worse just makes it more even

just like in bf4 where u cant full auto at range

u need to tap fire yk

someone who is skilled will win 9/10 times

[tender cradle]

Great, I don’t snipe

[half basalt]

So is someone going to answer the question or like nah

[chrome mason]

It’s nice to snipe but for grinding stuff it can be hard if you’re not skilled

[frigid dune]

wht im more concerned about is movment shooting verese stationary

as ik weapons are mor eaccurate when not moving but

[chrome mason]

Well maybe persistent server browser that’s coming later might help

[frigid dune]

a skilled player is not moving much when it coems to engaging

they piick their spots

[tender cradle]

The Asia players are VPN-ing over to NA West, not much you can do.

You could befriend an NA East player and maybe try NA East servers

[half basalt]

So you're telling me that the $170 game that I pre-ordered that worked a little bit ago all of a sudden doesn't work and I need to wait for an update to actually let me play the damn game without lagging my ass halfway across the map after I just ran two points ahead

Thanks dice

[viral salmon]

stop running

[tender cradle]

I didn’t start in the first place

[frigid dune]

i swear this is probbably one of the few times dice is actually giving uss wht we want n people still diss it .. kinda wild

[chrome mason]

Yeah you definitely can’t move much except when you also play CoD or a CoD vet

That’s why people hated the movement at launch and back in the beta

CoD vets dominating and winning all the time because they move like Max Payne and Flash at the same time

[viral salmon]

so 3, 2, 1? Or Ready set go?

[frigid dune]

the fact they are even putting them inot the game is a huge W tho

people act like seasons arent 2 months now xD

[half basalt]

Because I can't play the damn game I'm going to complain of course that's just a common reaction from anyone I think

[tender cradle]

Charred grilled boneless pizza

[viral salmon]

That #15 I wanted the toothless Michigan sandwich

[frigid dune]

i mean makes sense i thinkn next season tho we should have server broser makes sense

as i heard they are alrady being tested

in labs so i mean not too bad ig

wht im concerned about is i want mroe OPERTAIONS MODES and mapss

[chrome mason]

I think people are pissed because simple stuff that already existed in previous battlefields are being drip feed like we’re a bunch of newbies

QoL stuff is pointless if won’t be present in the next game or added way later

Ffs a persistent server browser took them 3 seasons wth is this, an indie game or a BF game 😭 💀

[frigid dune]

it NEEDS TO BEE perm

likee we need a 64 player operations playl;ist runninng 24/7

fr

it is the most played mode in bf6 BY FAR

[blissful haven]

Yo why do people genuinely complain that the medic base character isnt a dude

Like the whole insta comment section is full of it

[frigid dune]

KEEP OPERATIONS ADN ADD Maps to it

[chrome mason]

It also explains the sudden and then gradual loss of players as the months went by

[frigid dune]

n add more players simple

like i have a feeling operations maybe here to stay

finally

if so im all for it

[chrome mason]

They have different models nowadays the priority is red sec and the cosmetics not mp maps tbh

[flat bough]

i love men

[chrome mason]

I guess they prefer some more options which is nice

But for me I don’t mind as I’m a woman myself but ofc players wanted to immerse themselves and play as their gender so I guess some players don’t like the limited options

[jagged trench]

I have no issue with the base character model, medic is medic to me

[flat bough]

wish they went the bf5 route of character customization, but I can see why they didn't

but its also interesting that they kind of just threw away a lot of the stuff they built on with 2042

[chrome mason]

The other teams in the NATO faction can be weird like say Egypt given they don’t have female soldiers irl iirc but for diversity it’s fine

[frigid dune]

i mean redwc ehh not really they adjstements they had were promised months ago

so makes sense

but i dont think they are making updates for redsec mainly

i think they are looking more at ttk in mp and redsecx

as tht rof adjutmsent apparnelty is coming aswell

i heard

[chrome mason]

Yeah that also are another gripe too

Promises not met or been done

[flat bough]

no they do

[manic pumice]

Why do I get winning team losing team repeat lol

[chrome mason]

If they do that’s nice

As in combat roles?

[jagged trench]

Ngl you can't really tell with the player models unless you're in the menu anyway since you're playing in first person, only complaint I heard was the character yelling or screaming

[half basalt]

I'm so glad I paid $170 for a game that I literally just can't play until they push an update to fix the matchmaking

Awesome I love wasting money

[frigid dune]

some of them yes but some of them were just in the making n warranted like solos or ranked yk .. promised months ago... i think thre ROF adjustmenets maybe be on a future patch aswell

increasing ttk like bf4 or bf3

i wouldnt mind it tbh

[kindred plinth]

What’s the reward incentive for ranked BR play?

[chrome mason]

I searched

They don’t serve in combat roles

[flat bough]

medical

[half basalt]

EA gets your soul and you get depression

[kindred plinth]

They had my soul when they said no more dead space and refuse to make Titanfall 3

[half basalt]

I feel you on the TitanFall 3

[chrome mason]

Yeah that’s fine I guess

But the rest of the Egyptian female soldier classes then is not realistic but tbh who cares

But also this could raise some eyebrows with the you know, conservative folks like the Egyptians themselves

[half basalt]

Just remember at least they just didn't make another on the TitanFall series they could have done what they did to ghost recon where if you're not playing it on PC with mods your objectively not getting a ghost recon experience

[tender cradle]

You are hereby sentenced to 10 years in Detroit.

[flat bough]

Women have been a part of EAF since 1948 and recently pushed to allow them to be more involved in combat roles

[chrome mason]

Ok that’s great

[half basalt]

I think that we should have really like gorgeous influencers go out in tactical gear into low casualty war zones literally just to be moral boosters and to take pictures of them and use them as propaganda it would be great

[jagged trench]

What year is bf6 suppose to be set in anyway? Modern day or quite a few years into the future?

[half basalt]

Everybody would want to go in because they know they're fighting for that

😂

[slow rapids]

its set in 2027-2028 between the events of BF4 and BF2042

[deft canyon]

Did the transport copter get buffed?

[jagged trench]

Oh dam we getting irl bf soon then

[kindred plinth]

Wha do you mean. It’s already happening. We are also on track with IRL Fallout.

[flat bough]

the current world is more like arma 3

[chrome mason]

Kinda yup

[jagged trench]

Funny thing about fallout, one game is set during my birthday

[flat bough]

CSAT becomes closer and closer to reality

[kindred plinth]

That’s when you know we are cooked

[half basalt]

@flat bough Arma 3 in the war sense verge of cyberpunk 2077 in the society sense and I mean like without the cyberware obviously

[chrome mason]

Not gonna happen in the foreseeable future at all

Fallout stuff is about resource wars

What we might get with the surge of AI might be some AI wars

[jagged trench]

Chatgpt Vs Gemini playing chess

[gentle zodiac]

I think the easy answer here is that women often don't serve in roles that are defined as primarily combat oriented, but they often find themselves in combat as a result of their role, if that makes sense.

[chrome mason]

Anyone who lose gets nuked? 💀 😭

[inner swan]

Let's not discuss nuclear destruction of the planet in real life, thanks.

[flat bough]

what about other planets

[gentle zodiac]

Wargames irl

[chrome mason]

Yeah perhaps but it did say they don’t serve in frontline roles but probably it will change or some exceptions can be given

[chrome mason]

Sorry it’s just a hypothetical fictional scenario based off some sci-fi stuff as we are discussing Fallout

[jagged trench]

One thing I miss from 2042, might be a different take, option to switch outfit pieces on soldiers

[gentle zodiac]

I can say that war is rarely that neat & tidy. You can be serving in a support role, but suddenly be in Frontline combat.

[flat bough]

this is just like when people got really mad when there were female russian soldiers in BF1

[chrome mason]

Very true, it can change if it’s needed

[half basalt]

Sorry I won't talk about atrocities in your game that literally is filled with over 15 war crimes over the course of the campaign 😂

[gentle zodiac]

Also considering the scenario in BF6, it's possible that those in support roles would be in direct combat frequently, due to the chaotic and disorganized nature of the war between NATO and PAX.

[inner swan]

You can talk about things happening in the game all day long. The conversation went to real life application, which we don't allow. Thanks for checking. 🙂

[flat bough]

like nato using chemical weapons? lol

[chrome mason]

It’s a game anyway I mean I don’t even need to point out how ridiculous the premise and lore of BF6 is or was

[flat bough]

time and place though

this is neither the time, nor is ever the place

this is a video game discord sir

[jagged trench]

One thing I like in bf6 with the certain character skins is they can be used with any class, only alteration is the badge and visible equipment like rockets and defib

[flat bough]

yeah but you can talk about it in the proper places

[chrome mason]

I think we can only discuss it in a fictional way or within the context of the games

[half basalt]

Never mind the fact we're in a discord about a game about people literally shedding blood

[flat bough]

oh god

i beg you

because its pixels on a screen

[inner swan]

Yes, we control what's being discussed on the server, and we don't want real life discussions about war. You can feel about that as you want. Doesn't change our stance. Please move on now, thanks.

[flat bough]

this is bait

[chrome mason]

Rules are rules

If we don’t obey the rules we become them traitors Pax Armata

[flat bough]

idk about all that lol

[gentle zodiac]

That'd be an incredible season update though... " SEASON X: FALLOUT : PAX has acquired nuclear warheads, and in a last ditch effort for survival, devastates <insert region here>."

Could have the same vibes as BF1: Apocalypse

[chrome mason]

That’ll be too much tbh I rather have some drones and artillery support stuff

[flat bough]

this is not how servers work

yeah?

[half basalt]

Yes

[flat bough]

no

[half basalt]

Since I'm apparently a liar in your opinion

[chrome mason]

My dream mode would be operations and we get behemoths and like we got these vehicles with a lotta firepower like a AC-130 or a navy destroyer in the map

[half basalt]

What happened to the company that I actually grew up kind of admiring

[gentle zodiac]

Honestly, I feel like that's what we're missing from the current map selection: some really gritty, wartorn, hell scapes. Think like Paschaendale from BF1.

[chrome mason]

Any thoughts guys?

[velvet cedar]

no

[gentle zodiac]

Pair that with my map suggestion, and sure

[chrome mason]

Ok ty for support

[gentle zodiac]

They would agree with each other, in concept

[fiery oxide]

Behemoths were an annoying gimmick imo

[gentle zodiac]

Maybe a return to super heavy tanks?

[chrome mason]

Maybe it could be done or implemented better in a modern setting

[flat bough]

how would you even implement that in a modern setting?

there are no "behemoths"

[winter carbon]

Does bf6 have big maps yet

[gentle zodiac]

So the big issue is that most modern combat centers around skirmishes, nit grand scale battles. And the weapons/equipment are geared towards that.

[winter carbon]

Or still max 64 players?

[flat bough]

this isnt the interwar period where countries were building huge tanks with like 10 crew

[chrome mason]

An AC-130 is very big and can be classified as a behemoth but it’s also a glass cannon

If you don’t have air superiority it’ll go up in flames quite easily if it ran out of flares :3

[gentle zodiac]

But in the event if a war that reached the level of "total war", maybe countries invest in war machines that are meant for larger scale combat?

Just postulating here.

[flat bough]

no

[fiery oxide]

We aren't gonna get a higher playercount

[jagged trench]

I wonder if it's a select few weapons getting recoil adjustments or all of them are

[winter carbon]

Big sad

[chrome mason]

Well the players hated the big maps of BF2042 so the devs said ok we’re not doing that

So we got what we got because of that

[winter carbon]

Battlefield would rather be cod

Than Battlefield

[flat bough]

vehicles made during those times were because people were testing things out

tanks have basically been perfected in design

[gentle zodiac]

I mean... I'm playing Battlefield.

[flat bough]

and take years and years to design a new vehicle anyways

[gentle zodiac]

Actually, based on studies done on Ukraine, they're considered obsolete in some circles.

[flat bough]

paired with the fact that every country has precision guided weapons, making a massive vehicle would be a waste of time

[chrome mason]

Golmund supposedly would be the first real big map of BF6

It would be fun if the train can be ridden and it got some weapons

[flat bough]

train can be ridden

[winter carbon]

Finally adding big map
Map is empty
Lol

[flat bough]

its much bigger than it was in bf4

[gentle zodiac]

Yeah it would def require the suspension of reality to develop.

[chrome mason]

Ain’t that similar to what some country does to another country right

[gentle zodiac]

But hey, it's a game, we can get creative.

[charred rose]

Like how they nerfed snipers. What is a sweet spot if I'm point blank the large bullet should hurt the same if not more

[jagged trench]

Does a trailer showing C4 drones
Nerfs C4 drones because players were doing it

[flat bough]

c4 drones in 2042 were toxic af

[winter carbon]

I guess I was right all along, their super cool destruction physics can't handle more than 50 walls

[flat bough]

its predetermined animations

[crimson garden]

Penguin always thought Sweet Spot system for snipers is actually a nerf from the getgo

[gentle zodiac]

If you want a good representation of what modern warfare looks like at scale, play WARNO. Or watch someone play it.

It's pretty ... Boring.

[flat bough]

man warno is such a stepdown from wargame

[gentle zodiac]

From an entertainment stance

[chrome mason]

I think we don’t need really big maps but tbh the only reasons players hated the big maps is it’s a slog to march to the objectives

I mean it’s a video game about wars and soldiers, they definitely march for hours and for many miles to reach their objectives if needed

[gentle zodiac]

I've been dabbling with Broken Arrow.

[flat bough]

i was interested in broken arrow, but i heard it was kinda mid

[gentle zodiac]

Next up is going to be Veil of Ashes though.

[chrome mason]

Another gripe is there’s not much cover or whatever

Well well well ain’t that the same with some wars we got irl 💀

[gentle zodiac]

It is, but I always liked World in Conflict and felt like Wargame/WARNO was too complicated.

[chrome mason]

The soldiers adjust to the battlefield not the other way around most of the time

[gentle zodiac]

So BA actually hit that balance for me.

[flat bough]

wargame just has a high skill ceiling

[gentle zodiac]

And a vertical learning curve.

[flat bough]

i've got a little over 1k hours in red dragon

[gentle zodiac]

Yeah I couldn't get into it. So I was pretty happy with BA. It was more accessible to me.

[chrome mason]

I played HLL, Arma and RS2 Vietnam they’re definitely more team oriented and is more immersive

BF is the Michael Bay of the war games genre

I meant it as a compliment tho because it’s nice to have some ridiculously fun action in such games

[gentle zodiac]

As someone who prefers the WiC approach, vs Wargame.

[flat bough]

Wargame is an RTS series

[gentle zodiac]

Excited for Veil of Ashes though. Totally different era/vibe, but it looks awesome.

[velvet cedar]

BF streamers are playing the new map currently on twitch fyi

[flat bough]

an RTS series where teamwork is absolutely required or you will get steamrolled

[chrome mason]

Yeah true but it does have a lot of similarities to such games anyway

Milsims are just fps rts

[gentle zodiac]

Anywho, I think FPS are reaching a point where the constraints of modern combat are too strict for entertainment purposes.

[flat bough]

wat

[gentle zodiac]

So I would say some imagination is warranted with scenarios and weapons/equipment.

[chrome mason]

There’s nothing really new tbh

Drones been in games since MW2 back in 2009 and still relevant and more prevalent today in irl wars

[gentle zodiac]

Otherwise it's a whole bunch of sitting in foxholes and hoping they don't drone you.

[velvet cedar]

I think some FPS fans grew up and want a more realistic experience because they know how real war works now.

[chrome mason]

Depends on which war because one is like a one sided drone war

[gentle zodiac]

This is true, which is why ARMA and HLL are still popular.

But I don't think everyone is looking for that grounded experience.

Personally, as long as the setting is somewhat grounded, I'm happy.

Like no Nikki Minaj skins.

[chrome mason]

Fully Grounded experience is tbh for the nerds who definitely wanna larp as soldiers :3

people generally wanted a hybrid that got that milsim and also action mp game stuff that’s equal parts immersive but also entertaining

[velvet cedar]

exactly this is what i want

[chrome mason]

Yeah I also prefer it most of the time

[gentle zodiac]

Never understood that. Being a soldier is terrifying.

[velvet cedar]

like i want it to look realistic but i want it to play/control like im rambo

[chrome mason]

I think they wanna know or experience what soldiers do in combat or in war so milsims can answer or show that

[gentle zodiac]

War is the single most horrible invention of mankind. Why anyone would want to simulate it with that level of accuracy, for fun, is strange to me.

[chrome mason]

It’s for curiosity I guess and ofc for immersion

[gentle zodiac]

In truth, it's not new. How many people enlisted for the first world war for the idea of a "grand adventure", only to die screaming in the mud in some random field in France?

[chrome mason]

Like for example I’m not a pilot but I did enjoy Microsoft Flight Simulator because I wanna know how a pilot fly airplanes and ofc be immersed in such a job

[chrome mason]

Yes very true! it’s usually curiosity

[modest jackal]

I don't think so?

[fiery oxide]

KTS basically is

With how works irl

[modest jackal]

I think they meant Recoilless Anti-Tank Rifles.

[fiery oxide]

Oh

[gentle zodiac]

Wait. Does he mean a rifle without recoil, or a "recoilless rifle"?

[chrome mason]

The m136 is a recoilless rifle iirc

[flat bough]

AT4 is indeed a recoilless rifle

[rich river]

is a bug where you cant see weapon level in loadout menu ackknowelaged?

[gentle zodiac]

I acknowledge the bug.

[chrome mason]

It’s still called a rifle

[gentle zodiac]

Anything that fires a projectile can be called a rifle, if you really bend the term...

[rich river]

thank you

[gentle zodiac]

Yw

[chrome mason]

As long as the barrel is rifled I think it’ll apply

[flat bough]

well, the AT4 is technically a recoilless gun, because it is not rifled, but thats just semantics at that point

[chrome mason]

Yup

[flat bough]

but its still the same thing

[chrome mason]

Yeah

I can’t think of a rifle with absolutely no recoil except an air rifle maybe

Maybe they got some more fancy modern or some obscure Cold War weapons that have such capabilities

[flat bough]

also the RPG is recoilless

[gleaming totem]

The recoil is just a force pushing from inside backwards.

RPG has no recoil because the force just can flow freely to the back.

Other solution would be to counter the recoil force with another identical force in the other direction

[modest jackal]

Ah.

[frosty pier]

They should add an elite badge that tells u how much elite badges u have

[modest jackal]

Nah, I'm thinking more along the lines of the BF1 Tankgewehr.

[frosty pier]

That would be so cool to show off

[gentle zodiac]

That's not recoilless