#battlefield-6

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gusty sinew
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i have 3 ranks left until i am done with the pass and its a FULLY XP GRIND worst thing EVER

hot glen
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good morning friends

high garden
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Op Augur

gusty sinew
opaque anvil
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My game started crashing last night for the first time ever. Crashed mid match and goes back to desktop

round vector
opaque anvil
velvet kayak
signal crag
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Can you see it in the profile statistics?

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Because I can't find

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But I just know it's 32

fiery oxide
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Dunno i can try checking

velvet kayak
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I know I’ve capped 7,084 altogether but would have to check in game my best (think it’s around 30).

fiery oxide
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Seems like captured is the only stat you can see for career best

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not neutralized

devout sedge
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Keep us in ONE lobby. I know it's not many people on right now but, one match I'm having fun because it's full with real players. Next match it's just me and one person on the enemy team and 30 bots lmbo

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Im sitting at the main menu now quitting and rejoining trying to find a game that isnt almost over or bot filled

velvet kayak
devout sedge
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Need to come S3 ahahah.

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I'm patient though. Got my S3 BP pre ordered 😅

hazy summit
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what does pre ordering the BP Pro do?

shadow rampart
tender cradle
hazy summit
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it might be a waste to you

rich torrent
tender cradle
hazy summit
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is it literally skins for the new guns that are in the bp?

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as in preorder bonus skins

tender cradle
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think you get some addition tier skips too, on top of the BP tier skips

hazy summit
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ah right

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i thought you wouldnt get the new sniper if you didnt pre order, if its just a skin you get they can piss off

opaque anvil
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anyone having random crashed on pc....enable the IGPU in bios and it seems to have fixed it for me. Ridiculous i know......

tender cradle
hazy summit
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sweet

merry bolt
shadow rampart
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Live Gecko reaction:

autumn glade
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oh snap...they are bringing back sea maps?

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and larger scale maps too

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DO A NIGHT TIME LARGE SCALE MAP PLS!

misty yew
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We are so back

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Weather and day/night would be nice as well

autumn glade
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i cant wait for the people that asked for bigger maps to complain LOL

misty yew
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Canon event

autumn glade
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oh the extra map they sneak peaked at the end.....it looks like night time. Please let it be so!

merry bolt
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has anyone gotten more bots adding them from the battlefield discord? it's gotten pretty bad lately

languid mural
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not really, I think its a pretty usual amount for a server this big (well about one per 3 weeks)

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anyway did they do anything significant on the update? Im not really willing to hop on for a "bro the netcode feels better trust me" patch notes

languid mural
autumn glade
misty yew
languid mural
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yeah figurees

shadow rampart
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Yeah last night I had some horrible hit reg

languid mural
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Ive done the battlepass like 4 weeks ago and since then I just hopped on for like 3 matches 2 weeks ago when there were these 3 extra things to earn

gentle zodiac
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Same. But I'm keeping up with the weekly challenges.

languid mural
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cuz for me the moment I can tell the platform of the person who killed me based by just hitreg and stuff is kinda crazy so Im not even touching it any further

olive coral
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I'm a little nervous that there won't be enough time to complete S3 BP with weeklies alone.

languid mural
gentle zodiac
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I can usually tell by the amount of bunny-hopping.

olive coral
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If it's only 2 months (8 weeks) then they'll have to up the points. I was only at like 94/110 at week 8 of S2.

languid mural
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oh really? Ive finished all the battlepasses like halfway through them so

gentle zodiac
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Same.

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But honestly that's kind of nice.

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It takes the focus off challenges, and lets you play the way you want to.

olive coral
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I kind of just do the weekly homework and an hour or two every night at most.

languid mural
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well for me the regular play is not that enjoyable anymore, and theres very little to do as side activities

olive coral
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I love challenges

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Gives me incentive to do things I might not bother with otherwise.

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Realistic goals to shoot for is always fun too.

misty yew
languid mural
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cuz if Im not running my usual setup of M4A1 or any other good assault rifle, then Im getting frustrated on getting killed in situations in which I probably shouldnt, and if Im running the M4A1 then its just expected that Im gonna do great but its a bit boring with 90% of playtime on one weapon
and theres not much else to do besides just shooting

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like in bf2042 if I was bored I could go with the shield or throwing knives

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jets werent also a pain
and there was also the flying hoverbike which was something fun to do

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in here jets arent too chill since u die instantly from everything if youre not flying tip top

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throwing knives are so ass it hurts

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and well thats about it

olive coral
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Throwing knives need to be ohk to torso at least

languid mural
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also in previous bfs I also liked to just go on a little sideadventure with a recon with a spawn beacon and c4 to destroy enemy vehicles

olive coral
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CoD doesn't have a big problem with them and you can ohk to the pinky toe across the map with them in those games.

languid mural
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now if they notice me, they blast me immediately regardless of cover and I have to re-do the entire flanking process

languid mural
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so it was pretty cool

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very risk reward

merry bolt
# misty yew Had 2 just yesterday.

i have previous server admin experience so i catch on if it's a bot.. like for example an account made literally yesterday and sending me an AI video claiming it's them. lol

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it's so cringe

misty yew
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That' s quite an experience. I just get friend requests and DM requests

merry bolt
languid mural
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I sometimes entertain them if the account doesnt seem that suspicious, but the moment I realise theyre not referring to anything I mightve said in the server I just troll them

misty yew
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I guess I need to read the messages first lol

verbal cape
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is there really no way to avoid bot matches?

olive coral
verbal cape
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i dont wanna play against low skilled

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why does EA love adding bots to bf

languid mural
olive coral
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I wanna play against low skilled pls give em your enemies

languid mural
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I dont understand adding bots to PvP modes but oh well

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its a fix to an issue that isnt there yet

olive coral
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Bots aren't low skill anymore btw Hmm

languid mural
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it'll probably die down with persistent servers

olive coral
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I just hope they don't remove casual BT

languid mural
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I dont see why would they

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also if they do someone will definitely do a vs ai server

merry bolt
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has anyone had a run with recon and trying to c4 tanks? i learned if you crouch run while placing the c4.. the tank can't shoot you.. easily at least.

charred rose
olive coral
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Also

languid mural
olive coral
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The problem with ai modes in portal is that you have to get players to join for that full progression. Nobody ever joins portal.

languid mural
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dead as hell

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also thats cuz portal with the lower hz servers just feels bad to play

verbal cape
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what game mode is loaded with player

charred rose
olive coral
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I want an official mode with a good server quality and people joining the match. But only up to 8 players so I can fight bots and still do challenges lol

languid mural
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are operations still in game? that should be something

empty heath
plush vigil
olive coral
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Also yeah I mean any time I join a conquest or breakthrough (non casual) it always fills right up with players.

slender epoch
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casual is nice sometimes to peel away from the horrendous mm

olive coral
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I don't think those modes are dead at all

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Small modes though, they take some time to fill up usually

slender epoch
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especially if i leave a mortar infested lobby

olive coral
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Don't get me started

empty heath
charred rose
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Nerfs finally coming tho pogrich

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I forget what they are

olive coral
languid mural
olive coral
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Must've been a mine or rocket hit at the same time

languid mural
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though they fixed the top-down damage so its still ?

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probably a mine yeah

charred rose
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Ppl swear there are no mines then drive right over them

languid mural
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if ur own teammates are particularly precious it mightve even been your own teams mine blown up by enemy mortar

olive coral
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Or a drone waited to blow the mine up as you drove over

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Vehicles getting buffed in S3 I believe

misty yew
fiery oxide
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I always have to solo clear mines

charred rose
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Every time I remember to use mines there's many free kills and vehicle pops

olive coral
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I wall-e'd a couple of tanks the other night, felt great

fiery oxide
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And when im in a vehicle with a gunner i also have to solo clear em

languid mural
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lol

hallow geode
olive coral
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I bail out of any tank that drives full speed into battle tbh lol

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F'in asking for trouble

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I'm not gonna be there when the tank driver pulls a Leroy Jenkins

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But I'll watch the fireworks from afar

languid mural
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btw I still dont get why they decided that spec ops ability needs to have a drawback of needing to walk to actually detect stuff
oh no Im sure this is the ability that will compete with auto-spotting everything with your scope, not being able to rez after headshot, more nades and faster GL reload etc etc, it has to have a drawback!

slow rapids
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if they know what they're doing they can pretty much take care of mine threat

olive coral
slow rapids
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Thank you ^-^

But yeah the average tanker can often leave something to be desired in terms of situational awareness, its extremely entertaining. I'm gutted i couldnt record bc it was from a closed session, but i watched a random blueberry and an enemy tank drive around a building for almost a minute chasing one another trying to shoot the other and not being able to land a single hit

fiery oxide
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We share the earth with these people

olive coral
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Classic

hallow geode
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That's the annoying thing about labs. Especially the very early tests. Stuff happened in that which might never be replicated again and nobody could capture it

olive coral
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I watch funny BF6 clip compilations on youtube sometimes

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Also great play compilations... Amazing the things people pull off sometimes

olive coral
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We love positivity

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The first time it got me the DM was in French lmao. Merci.

slow rapids
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resisting the urge to tag francois

modest dome
gentle zodiac
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We love positivity... as in the positive contact confirmation following the AT-9 I just fired into a window.

olive sage
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Season 3 blog post when? Would have thought it'd have been at 4pm based on recent history.

tawdry tiger
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Anyone else lagging only on official servers?

olive sage
olive coral
olive sage
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That's my hope too, cheers!

olive coral
urban monolith
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idk if anyone can help me but I've been having network issues from the moment I got this game last night attempting to play multiplayer where I have high latency, ping and stuttering even though I know my internet is solid and works fine on other multiplayer games

torn peak
high fiber
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whats with the new roof glitch on manhattan map...

torn peak
misty yew
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New one?

high fiber
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people getting on the bulding right below the bridge

fiery oxide
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I can assure you there's not a single new glitch on that map

torn peak
high fiber
fiery oxide
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Day 0 people were ontop of every single roof there is on that map

torn peak
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i need a video to see how to use it

fiery oxide
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Scout heli just made it easier to get to any good spot

olive coral
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How is it a glitch to be on rooftops in a map with a heli?

misty yew
solar kestrel
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Bought BF6 today

sonic saffron
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conGrats

solar kestrel
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I suck hard at multiplayer lol

high fiber
sonic saffron
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is it on sale? i remember it was 40% off awhile ago

mossy badge
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h

fiery oxide
solar kestrel
olive coral
solar kestrel
frosty pier
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Season 3 looks like it’s focused on pax armada

olive coral
fiery oxide
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only because they didn't bother making the rooftops out of bounds

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misty yew
solar kestrel
olive coral
solar kestrel
mossy badge
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Well

misty yew
frosty pier
solar kestrel
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Missed out on what?

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olive coral
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Still time to complete S2, or mostly lol

frosty pier
sonic saffron
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its ok i missed season 1 too LOL

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solar kestrel
solar kestrel
frosty pier
devout light
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Looks so much better holy

olive coral
sonic saffron
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i bought the game and didnt play it frequently until contaminated is out

solar kestrel
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Beta was awesome

solar kestrel
frosty pier
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Season one came out 3 weeks after launch

mossy badge
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I lost access to my pc for two weeks after launch.

solar kestrel
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Oot

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Oof

shadow rampart
mossy badge
west jacinth
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Where do we find today's community update

mossy badge
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Still sad about the battlepass

misty yew
quick frost
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Is there a help channel in here?

frosty pier
frosty pier
olive coral
solar kestrel
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Man I miss BF4 and 3

shadow rampart
misty yew
cursive temple
frosty pier
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Not uniform wise

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But I do agree pax armada has the best mimicry uniforms

olive coral
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S3 going to be 90% Geckos running around, bet

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I'ma be one of emCursedCat

misty yew
quick frost
frosty pier
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I’m interested to see the campaign characters in multiplayer

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It’s gonna feel weird

frosty pier
mossy badge
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Nato phantom editions skins are fire though.

shadow rampart
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molten fable
quick frost
olive coral
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Gecko has a cool aura for sure.

frosty pier
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What the main character’s name again? For the bf6 campaign

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cursive temple
frosty pier
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Oh wait I remember

molten fable
olive coral
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Murphy I believe

frosty pier
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It’s Dylan Murphy

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Yes

molten fable
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Dylan Murphy?

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Yaya!

frosty pier
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Guys my memory kicked in

quick frost
frosty pier
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Don’t worry gng 😁

molten fable
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I can't remember Gecko's name though, Dylan says it once maybe

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Espina?

frosty pier
olive coral
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Yeah Espina

cursive temple
shadow rampart
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Simone

frosty pier
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U think haz carter will be playable even tho he died?

molten fable
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RIP Haz 🙂‍↕️ but if they ever make a skin like the Pax leader guy I forgot his name

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I am 110% taking extra hours at work to heed the call of the whale xD

olive coral
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I imagine they don't count campaign events as canon for MP

molten fable
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YaAAAA Kincaid!

olive coral
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Oh the ginger dude?

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quick frost
frosty pier
molten fable
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Thank you Imm at work that was gonna torture me not knowing 😂

frosty pier
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Kincaid killed my boy haz

cursive temple
molten fable
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He did but he looks hot ok I'm a simple barbarian woman lemme have my eye candy too 🤣 but I was pissed AF with Haz

olive coral
olive coral
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I hate when they do that

quick frost
quick frost
frosty pier
mossy badge
frosty pier
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They always make it look scripted

olive coral
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Of course

molten fable
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Yeah

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I was like where did the rest of the army we just fought with go

cursive temple
frosty pier
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“Alright this is the part where I’m supposed to die”

molten fable
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They extract the prez and everybody dips xD

silent heath
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dead game,s3 and road map not save game

quick frost
somber pike
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will the s3 battle pass cost the same as the pre-order? 1100 coins?

frosty pier
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U can buy it right now

somber pike
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huh. wonder why there's bonus stuff then

cursive temple
somber pike
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ig that's just how preorders work

frosty pier
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Same system with video games

olive coral
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I think there was an LMG skin for preordering the basic 1100 BP... I mean I was gonna get the shit anyway so I got that.

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Not that I'll ever use the LMG skin.

frosty pier
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Pre-ordering is the same price as buying the game at launch

quick frost
molten fable
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Ya lmg skin of the hatchet and then p18 skin I believe

frosty pier
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I only got 800 coins so ima just get the 300 coins from the free pass then buy the BP

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Wish the battlepass would give more coins than the price of it

somber pike
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i hope i can complete the ultimate and prestige tiers in 4 days 😭

molten fable
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I really gotta force myself to use lmgs and only for challenges really, I am just too impatient with their reload speeds. I need to go to rehab to stop reloading with 99/100 of a mag ☠️

frosty pier
somber pike
frosty pier
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Also u have 5 days not 4

slender epoch
molten fable
somber pike
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also i'm only like 100 kills and 4 match wins from completing like 10 challenges in one go

frosty pier
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Just complete the weekly quests

molten fable
frosty pier
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They should help u compete tbe battle pass

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Season 3 skins don’t look as good as season 2

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But we got 5 more days to see if I’m wrong or right

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Season 2 felt so long gng

slender epoch
frosty pier
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I’m happy they’re making season 3 only 2 months

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Lesser wait for naval warfare

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Also they’re were no new vehicles in the season 3 trailer

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Kinda weird

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But it’s lowkey fine

molten fable
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I am SO excited for naval warfare

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I didn't see the season 3 skins though, is there still a way to preview or just from what you've seen of the theme for his season?

slender epoch
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i’d be more hype if we get our air radar with it

molten fable
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This season* rather

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OOOOoooh heck ya to that too

olive coral
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The maps and weapons appeal to me more

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But we'll see

frosty pier
slender epoch
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just feel like naval combat would be missing it’s aerial counterpart

frosty pier
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It’s jsut the skins

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But we’ll soon see

olive coral
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I've been wanting Gecko since launch so that alone is a win

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frosty pier
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Respect 🫡

olive coral
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Not desperate lmao but

solemn drum
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did they post the new season weapons?

olive coral
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They showcased them in the trailer

slender epoch
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who was gecko? the defib hero?

olive coral
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No S3 post otherwise though, yet

lime void
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is it worth it to get the 25 round magazine over the 20 round for the scw? I feel like the 25 round is kinda necessary but 25 points over the 20 round seems kinda expensive

frosty pier
olive coral
olive coral
frosty pier
olive coral
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Why

frosty pier
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Idk man

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At first I didn’t support it

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But now I think it’s fine

slender epoch
slow rapids
rough ocean
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When does the recoil reqork patch come in?

slow rapids
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unannounced

frosty pier
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Bro but the characters in the first campaign mission looked so much better than the others

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Idk why they had to kill them off right away like that

tepid forge
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Are we ready for Season 3 boys?

olive coral
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The characters are the best part but still there's nobody that compares to some of CoD's characters IMO

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Like, there's no Captain Price or Ghost...

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Cool as Gecko is lol

slow rapids
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I'm really hoping that BFBC3 hits hard on the "goofy/quirky/dry humour squad dynamics" stuff again like BFBC2

tepid forge
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I swear if we have to buy the characters in this Season's Battlepass I'm gonna crash out

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LET US GET A NEW FREE SQUAD

tepid forge
charred rose
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free Fried_Joy

idle kelp
tepid forge
slow rapids
charred rose
slow rapids
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Theres no shot that EA wont cash in on the IP recognition of BC3

charred rose
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Especially with all the malding over this game Hmm

olive coral
tepid forge
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Ughhh

wheat wigeon
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Did they change something to sensitivity in the latest update?
First game last night I felt something was off with my aim, sensitivity while aimed down felt slightly off and when at hip it felt like it ramps up

idle kelp
olive coral
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I’m surprised after the travesty that 2042 was that they didn’t do BC3 as a good faith comeback move.

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But BF6 did that for me so…

slow rapids
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ive posted this before but this is my rationale of why I think BC3 is the next BF:

Battlefield has 3 main sub-series (the Battlefield XX42, Bad Company, and Battlefield X). 2042 was the most recent in the line of the XX42, and now we have a Battlefield X. And EA knows BFBC2 is beloved, it would be a cash cow to cash in on the IP recognition for the title, especially if they're coming off the back of BF6 being both successful and controversial. Basically saying "hey we fixed BF6, and now heres this game that succeeds one of the most beloved battlefield titles EVER, with all of those fixes from BF6 included"

idle kelp
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Ok, you can think that all you want, it wont change the facts

slow rapids
gleaming yew
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Dice can't fix the mortar because it should be off map and called by the commander

idle kelp
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By that logic it would be a shadow of its former glory without the writers that gave it the "goofy/dry humor" you refer to. Seems you only want it to make EA money by calling it a cash cow. Games uses to represent an art from not just to sell copies.

gleaming yew
idle kelp
slow rapids
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Money is the motivation to do anything for a company like EA.

I'm saying that they (like any company) can cash in on nostalgia + make a good product that honours/lives up to that nostalgia to make a great game. If they are able to both of those things, that's a huge reason to make that the next BF over any other Battlefield title, rather than another Battlefield X, or XX42 series title.

Just because the original writers/authors arent at EA anymore doesnt mean that they cant make a new title in the franchise, there are more than a few great writers in the industry, its just up to them to capture the talent.

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Building on legacy is like a cornerstone of the industry atm

modest jackal
pulsar nacelle
slow rapids
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hmm

molten fable
pulsar nacelle
molten fable
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The way they tied off the story I'd say fits into the MP lore if that's the reservation

olive coral
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Unless they explicitly said BC2 was the final iteration. Did they?

idle kelp
sonic gust
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is season 3 worth playing ?

somber pike
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wait till the 13th man

rich torrent
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Bro talking as if Battlefield stories have ever been that deep. leo

cursive temple
olive coral
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“Would not live up to expectations” is subjective

somber pike
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what profile background do yall use

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i like night hunt

rich torrent
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The campaigns aren't exactly A tier writing.

somber pike
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or b or c

cursive temple
olive coral
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And it doesn’t need the same writers. How many BFs have we had with all different devs? Lol

olive coral
# cursive temple It wont

That may be true in your case, maybe even mine, but that wouldn’t stop them from trying if they wanted to.

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GTA’s head writer left and we’re still apparently someday getting GTA6

cursive temple
olive coral
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Sequels can still happen without original writers

olive coral
opaque vapor
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OMG CAN WE PLEASE NERF THE HELICOPTERS GUY IS USING HIS BLADES THROUGH A BUILDING TO KILL SOMEONE AND BELLFLOPPING ON BUILDINGS TO BREAK THEM DOWN WTF

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A GAME THAT TRIES TO BE REAL LOL

pulsar nacelle
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Uhh. I don't think this game is trying to be real.

gentle zodiac
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Yeah... it's realistic compared to COD, maybe, if only slightly.

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But otherwise no.

olive coral
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I didn’t know you could use heli blades that way in BF6😂

gentle zodiac
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You cannot twitch fire an RPG-7 without dislocating your shoulder.

slow rapids
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Ive definitely died inside a building from a little bird smacking into the wall outside

slow rapids
deft fern
olive coral
gentle zodiac
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I mean... we also have players driving tanks into the interiors of concrete buildings so...

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Realistic? Hell no. But that's Battlefield.

cursive temple
gentle zodiac
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Helicopter Resources

deft fern
pulsar nacelle
gentle zodiac
cursive temple
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Everyone that works has HR

calm lily
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Yo wassup my ninjas

gentle zodiac
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More likely to just get stuck.

pulsar nacelle
gentle zodiac
molten fable
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Kincaid is their HR 🤣

cursive temple
slow rapids
deft fern
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Hey was that the M16 I seen in the season 3 trailer or was it the M4 with new iron sights?

pulsar nacelle
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Do you think pax has employee discounted tickets to the Wet and wild Water Park

gentle zodiac
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M16 I believe.

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Larger frame/barrell.

calm lily
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I’m so exited for m16

molten fable
cursive temple
calm lily
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When does season 6 even start

deft fern
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That’s my favorite weapon since bf3

molten fable
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Whoa whoa whoa 6?!

molten fable
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May 12th is when Season 3 starts but idk about season 6 xD

cursive temple
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HR are not so nice people

molten fable
gentle zodiac
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I've missed the m16 - hopefully that's what they were showing, and it wasn't just mock up.

calm lily
gentle zodiac
barren heath
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I hope S3 makes this game playable again NotLikeThis

molten fable
calm lily
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They should replace the other weapon slot for assialt with smg instead of carbine

idle kelp
#

Man what ever happened to the rumor of the CZ bren that was supposed to be added? Why do we get another AK lol

molten fable
#

Your name is brilliant Vespa xD

gentle zodiac
#

I am once again asking for the Vespa 150 TAP to be added to BF6...

#

Ruby red, please.

molten fable
#

🤣

deft fern
calm lily
#

Gadget

#

It would make way more sense

deft fern
#

Assault with personal defense weapons seems weird

calm lily
#

Nah it’s a good idea

#

Have an adulation riffle and a smg that’s sickkk

#

Asualt*

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I can’t type on phone

summer stone
summer stone
#

The end all be all

calm lily
#

Kinda were

cursive temple
#

Pfff gen z

gentle zodiac
#

You know what disappoints me most? Why are we still not getting a "total war" set in modern day setting.

modest jackal
gentle zodiac
#

It's like we're incapable of imagining any modern scenario that isnt tactical skirmishes.

calm lily
#

Why they remove nightfall, hopefully it’s full time in season 3

gentle zodiac
deft fern
calm lily
#

WTF does pdw mean?

gentle zodiac
#

Carbines are not PDWs.

#

They're SBRs.

modest jackal
gentle zodiac
#

Honestly they should rename the carbine class as SBR.

#

More accurate.

calm lily
#

Yess i figured out how to turn n outocorrect off!!!

deft fern
modest jackal
gentle zodiac
#

Especially outside the US.

modest jackal
gentle zodiac
#

They still refer to the RPKM as a battle rifle.

deft fern
#

Seems fitting

gentle zodiac
#

It's really an LSW.

calm lily
#

Which is better, RPKM or DRS IAR?

modest jackal
#

DRS.

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By quite a mile.

calm lily
#

thx bro

gentle zodiac
#

As a LSW? RPKM.

marble inlet
#

is battlefield 4 still alive?

gentle zodiac
#

As a mixed use battle rifle, DRS.

modest jackal
#

I think they meant objectively in BF6?

gentle zodiac
#

Still works.

#

DSR has great flexibility. But if youre looking for a lightweight support option, for sustained fire, especially at distance, the RPKM is your best bet.

#

Ignoring the Ultimax, of course.

#

Fun fact: the DSR IAR was originally ordered by the USMC as a LSW to replace the M240B. However, after receipt, they began ordering them instead as their standard battle rifle.

olive coral
#

Though I wouldn’t say it’s thriving still, you can find matches.

misty yew
gentle zodiac
#

No. The M249 (SAW) is primarily used by the US Army.

#

The M240B is the primary SAW for the USMC.

misty yew
#

Interesting

gentle zodiac
#

Another fun fact: the L110 is a variant of the FN Minimi, the ancestor of the M249.

#

So it's essentially the British version of the M249.

olive coral
#

I like these gun facts

gentle zodiac
#

I know a fair bit about the BF6 guns, among others. Not an expert though.

thin nexus
#

The pre recall sig p320 <3

gentle zodiac
#

Another fun one is the NVO-228E.

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That's actually a Ukrainian variant of the ACE 32.

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Real world name is the Fort-228.

thin nexus
#

im so happy they brought the m16 back

gentle zodiac
#

Then there's the LMR, which is fictional, but the concept came from a Russian prototype called Saritch.

heady gale
#

.

gentle zodiac
olive coral
olive coral
#

I'm also glad it's back btw lol

gentle zodiac
#

You'll scare it away.

olive coral
#

I love the iron sights

thin nexus
#

bf isnt bf without that purity

pulsar nacelle
olive coral
#

It better have good camo unlocks. Not some wacky spacey camos.

pulsar nacelle
heady gale
pulsar nacelle
thin nexus
pulsar nacelle
gentle zodiac
#

Wondering what variant they'd do. A4?

thin nexus
#

most likely yeah

olive coral
#

Is that the one that only bursts... Please no

heady gale
pulsar nacelle
olive coral
#

Please don't be the single/burst M16 oh god

gentle zodiac
#

Maybe they'll give us a bayonet lug...

thin nexus
#

i think they did an attachment for full auto

olive coral
#

Lmao

heady gale
gentle zodiac
#

They need to bring back bayonet charges.

thin nexus
#

they need to updamage on melee 10 fold

gentle zodiac
#

"bunny hop this scrub"

gentle zodiac
thin nexus
#

I think burst is fine aslong as it has good damage

gentle zodiac
#

Truthfully, the gun that really stands out for not being included, is the AK-74.

#

Or the AK-12.

#

Given: the NVO is similar.

idle kelp
gentle zodiac
#

I have my moments.

glossy timber
#

my battlefield 6 keeps on pc freezing me with an 5090 and 9800x3d hows is this possible ?
my nvidia drivers are up to date as well

#

@small plume

fresh sail
#

Is there any chance someone would be able to tell me every map/mode combination the armoured transport is on? I'd really appreciate it, finding it hard to find info online.

fallen fox
gentle zodiac
#

The galil is an ACE.

shadow rampart
gentle zodiac
#

oh you meant in regard to the ak74.

#

But yes, I didn't mean in the sense of it being related to the AK. I was referring to performance/function.

spiral timber
#

Just had a full squad of four cheating on Hagendal breakthrough.
teleporting, god mode, walls, aim the works

fiery oxide
#

Sure

ashen oar
fiery oxide
#

Ain't no one gonna believe that

misty yew
spiral timber
#

thats what it was

misty yew
#

LOL I knew it

#

yeah I don't know if they are actually cheating or just getting godlike latency in their favor, but they ALWAYS win gunfights

flat bough
spiral timber
flat bough
#

but the USMC did a funny and just decided to replace all rifles with the M27

misty yew
flat bough
#

whether or not all units will receive the M27 is yet to be seen

#

I guarantee you that most riflemen will still be using an M4

misty yew
#

I addressed my thoughts non-confrontationally, but yeah I was like ok

flat bough
#

while the M27 will be used in an auto rifleman role, M249s will still remain in service

#

the Army is doing whatever the Army is doing with the whole M7 thing

gentle zodiac
flat bough
#

and the M250

#

those are completely different weapons

#

used in different roles

gentle zodiac
#

They're both SAWs, are they not?

misty yew
flat bough
#

no

#

M240 is a MMG

#

SAWs fire the same cartridge as the service assualt rifle

subtle zinc
#

You think they will look to remove tanks and helicopters for ranked redsec just because of their potential OP nature?

gentle zodiac
#

Interesting. Then where do LSWs fit in?

flat bough
#

they are interchangable

#

M240 is not a light weapon in any way

gentle zodiac
#

My understanding was based on LSWs being distinct from SAWs.

flat bough
#

it fires a full powered cartridge

gentle zodiac
flat bough
#

and requires more than one to operate effectively

chilly crag
#

I wouldn’t mind a competitive game mode, yet they’d either have to rebalance the game specifically for that game mode, or rebalance the entire game in a way that most people probably wouldn’t like.

gentle zodiac
flat bough
#

its not required

chilly crag
#

The main reason I’ve never even tried redsec is because of armor and damages being different

gentle zodiac
#

Then again, I trained with psychotic idiots

flat bough
#

but it helps if someone is carrying ammo for the MMG

#

SAWs can be operated at full effectiveness by a single person

gentle zodiac
#

The only direct use I've seen myself, was single-man operation as a mobile deterrent for small craft.

misty yew
gentle zodiac
#

As opposed to a mounted HMG, which we weren't allowed to have.

#

Because: Laws.

chilly crag
gentle zodiac
misty trellis
#

Anyone know if there making the battle pass easier to grind i had to play for 8 hours straight just for the last 3 tiers of the battle pass with all challenges complete 😭

flat bough
#

cool discord

misty yew
gentle zodiac
#

Basically: "We know you're not required to be able to defend yourselves BUUUT here ya go"

chilly crag
gentle zodiac
#

So we learned to use a few weapons, so we didn't look like total idiots.

misty yew
flat bough
gentle zodiac
chilly crag
gentle zodiac
#

So we used weapons that could be easily hidden, upon inspection.

blissful mica
#

does anyone else find that the battlepass progression is way too slow and not very rewarding (costs 1100 bfc, only returns exactly 1100 bfc)? Ive played every single week of season 2 and done every single challenge, including the bonus weekly for every week, and i still need 4 more tiers of the pass to finish it. are players expected to treat the game like a full time job just for some cosmetics?

gentle zodiac
#

We had a couple M240s, but I didn't get trained on them.

#

"trained"

flat bough
#

you need to do about 30 tiers without any weekly challenges to complete the bp

chilly crag
flat bough
#

I believe with the current length of the bp, only doing weekly challenges gives you 72 tiers

gentle zodiac
#

Honestly, it was kind of a joke. Like what's my M4 going to do against a fast boat carrying three guys with RPGs?

flat bough
#

but seasons are going to be shorter now, so that means less challenges

blissful mica
chilly crag
spiral timber
#

So the Igla is just a worse stinger?

gentle zodiac
#

Yes. Basically.

spiral timber
#

then why did they add it??

gentle zodiac
#

No idea.

misty yew
gentle zodiac
#

I haven't really struggled to complete any seasonal BP so far, but that's just me.

blissful mica
#

I play a few hours a week every week, i just think that should be enough. games should be fun, not a chore

gentle zodiac
#

I get that, but content also needs to plan for people who want more than that.

misty yew
#

If you don't drip feed, the season would be over in a few days

gentle zodiac
#

Ya know, it does make me think of how BF3/4 worked. A whole bunch of assignments that could be completed whenever, coupled with expansion packs to add content.

#

I do wonder if that setup wouldn't still work now.

blissful mica
#

yeah, thats another issue though, dripfeeding content and LTMs arent enough to keep me wanting to play the game and i assume others agree. I would understand not being done the pass yet if i took a break from the game for a week or two, but again i did not

misty yew
#

Totally understand. I think the devs are catering to the largest group of players possible while trying to find ways to keep all of them continuing to play

gentle zodiac
#

I think seasonal passes and drip feeds are just "en vogue" right now.

#

Kinda like loot boxes in the late twenty-teens.

#

I actually really liked how BF1 was setup.

blissful mica
#

im just frustrated with monetization that doesnt guarantee you what you pay for. i never buy premium currency for any game i play, but i did get bf6 phantom edition or whatever they called it expecting to get more out of the currency that the edition came with while casually playing the game. i am just disappointed and wanted to see if anyone else felt the same about the battlepass

gentle zodiac
#

At least it's mostly cosmetics. And the actual content can still be unlocked through other means.

blissful mica
gentle zodiac
#

Not sure on that 2nd part, but yes on the first. You have to wait for the next season.

blissful mica
#

idk man, i just think thats silly, but i guess it makes them more money or they wouldnt do it

gentle zodiac
#

I think it's more technical than just extracting the most revenue.

#

My guess is spreading content out results in steadier metrics and cash flow, which is better from a business standpoint

lapis bloom
#

EA is hella vague still on weapon changes

gentle zodiac
#

Maybe I misunderstood, but wasn't the Igla meant to be an aim-guided AAA option?

lapis bloom
#

It's supposed to be an in-between of the stinger and AT-4

gentle zodiac
#

I tried to use it, assuming it was aim guided like the AT4, but it still got thrown by flares like the stinger.

lapis bloom
low wyvern
#

Hey what's the best setup for camping

lapis bloom
#

You have to track but it's still thrown off by flares

lapis bloom
#

Or TR-7 and sit in the corner

low wyvern
#

Thanks bromie

idle kelp
magic jacinth
#

Is there anywhere you can request features or give suggestions? I'm dying to have 3 manual map zoom levels to cycle, and rename loadouts.

#

...basically just bf1 qol that should've been in this game too

wise cloak
idle kelp
#

Basically any map with at least 2 air vehicles you can attempt it

wise cloak
# idle kelp Ive done it on Mirak, and Lib peak

on average how many times did it take to work. Feels weird fighting helis. Doesnt feel like I am doing anything with aa. If the point is to make the pilot press the temp immune button to make them vulnerable after for a brief moment why dont you get points for it or an assist just something rest of the time the launcher is a paper weight.

lapis bloom
merry bolt
# lapis bloom If you find out let me know lmao

I wish I could answer this.. I always have ideas and I usually answer them in the surveys Battlefield studios put out .. not sure how else to get suggestions or feature ideas noticed to be honest.

cedar briar
#

The only place to ask is on the community forum

merry bolt
#

I will never understand removing features that were loved

magic jacinth
#

💔

cedar briar
slender epoch
#

pings should make noise or smt when you press becuase half the time i’m not paying attention unless i see the ping in front

merry bolt
wise cloak
magic jacinth
cedar briar
idle kelp
#

The trick is maintaining locks without firing until you have the right moments.

#

Might have a clip somewhere maybe ill post it later

#

Also big plus if recon has laser for faster locks.

lapis bloom
lapis bloom
merry bolt
wise cloak
idle kelp
#

Yes anti-air launchers are situational.

cedar briar
#

bait the flare, don't fire as soon as you lock on

slow rapids
hearty holly
#

i need multiplayer pro teammates for me and my friend so that platoon next season we can conquer

#

anyone down to play some multiplayer lv100+

cedar briar
olive coral
#

I would bet he's over 9000+

cedar briar
#

without padding

wise cloak
slow rapids
#

hmm

hearty holly
#

Im 560

#

no bra xbox post and teammates be dead af... i just want company ;-;

slow rapids
lapis bloom
olive coral
slow rapids
#

the best bets to kill a good heli player are to either beat them in a heli/jet yourself, or to kill them with non-lock ons. Stingers are more of a zoning/pressure tool than they are for being able to 1v1 a heli for the kill. RPGs or AT4 are the best bet for infantry in the current meta

olive coral
#

Flares need a cooldown nerf or something

hearty holly
#

so no one down to play?

wise cloak
#

the best way to kill a heli is to count on your team mates no wonder its always a slaughter 🤣

olive coral
#

Lol

slow rapids
#

at least the flares pop instantly now and dont have a long duration like previous titles, thats already a big change

wise cloak
#

actual consequences for getting hit with a missile

idle kelp
olive coral
#

I'd be down with no repair stations if the flares are left as is

#

Go land and repair manually, get a teammate to do it, etc.

wise cloak
idle kelp
#

(we lost)

wise cloak
#

ah yes cant have it all

#

thanks for the example though Iwill try that out

#

does seem very gimmicky I must say

devout sedge
#

What tank shells/ammunition does the projectile interceptor dont work against?

wise cloak
#

stock anti tank shell

#

its kinetic

idle kelp
#

lock ons can be a strong counter to air sweats. so im hoping since Golmuds expanded airspace, there should be additional AA...

olive coral
#

I'm stoked for Golmud and Bazaar

slow rapids
olive coral
#

That's not very positive

deft fern
#

Telling me I broke the rules for saying “capes are not gay”

slow rapids
#

ope

deft fern
#

🤨

wise cloak
slow rapids
#

saying it again might have not been the move

olive coral
#

Yeeeah lol

#

And protip btw, even deleting the post won't save you lmao AI detects it when it's posted, it doesn't forget it after it's deleted

#

Can confirm

slow rapids
#

positivity 🙏

merry bolt
#

can anyone recommend a youtuber who regularly covers Battlefield ? most of the ones I used to watch don't cover it like unless something big is happening

deft fern
#

Ai? That makes sense

slow rapids
olive coral
#

Jackfrags and Westie are my favorites personally.

#

They seem to post identical stuff though.

spiral timber
#

Is there such a thing as a smoke meta?

merry bolt
spiral timber
#

just had two guys screaming about it in game chat despite us only progressing after the smoke was gone

wise cloak
modest jackal
#

I remembered facing 5 Support Enemies spamming Smoke Grenades...

merry bolt
modest jackal
olive coral
spiral timber
slow rapids
slow rapids
#

lmao

merry bolt
olive coral
#

Jack certainly does clickbait but his content's good IMO

pulsar nacelle
idle kelp
slow rapids
#

everyone has their opinions. I appreciate that Enders is both a good player, and honest about his takes. I dont watch his live stuff, but his short/long form content is decent. Hes one of the few exceptionally good players who also unfilteredly voices his opinion. He could be a little less hyperbolic at times with his outrage but its whatever

pulsar nacelle
#

Enders just cares

#

A lot

spiral timber
wise cloak
#

I guess I am out of place here dont have much time to watch more than one content creator covering the same topics. If I did I would rather just play the game more but each to their own.

magic belfry
olive coral
wise cloak
#

🤣

olive coral
#

You can be a good player with padded stats lol

pulsar nacelle
spiral timber
magic belfry
olive coral
pulsar nacelle
olive coral
wise cloak
slow rapids
olive coral
#

Lmao @ stats mattering

slow rapids
#

also this ^

pulsar nacelle
#

Stats doesn't matter. It's the friends we meet along the way or something like that

olive coral
#

Especially in a game where leaving a match doesn't affect winrate, and bots are everywhere

magic belfry
#

If they didn’t matter than why stat pad?

olive coral
#

Stats = meaningless

magic belfry
slow rapids
#

the guy can drop a 100+ kill game in BT consistently, hes an exceptionally good and mechanical player

magic belfry
#

Streamer + match quitting= trash.

slow rapids
#

what does streaming have to do with anything lmao

rotund dust
#

Is season 3 going to be pre downloadable

pulsar nacelle
quartz karma
magic belfry
pulsar nacelle
#

I never match quit. I stay til the end

#

Like a man

quartz karma
proven oriole
#

I'm playing on ps5 and stink with my controller, wish I was playing on pc

olive coral
#

I match quit all the time leo

slow rapids
olive coral
#

Not because of my w/l but because of fun factor

proven oriole
#

I easily go like 13-42 with controller lol

pulsar nacelle
proven oriole
#

i'm also old though

slow rapids
pulsar nacelle
olive coral
#

Hell if I'ma waste my time getting my balls busted by a bunch of elite players lol I wanna play with people that suck.

slow rapids
#

some of the most fun I have is going up against stacks of good players

olive coral
#

But... I don't play to entertain anyone else.

proven oriole
#

even though I stink I have a good time taking the heli and air dropping people over point providing support lol

olive coral
#

I should clarify that I like playing against people who play my style.

slow rapids
#

good transport heli pilots should be protected at all costs

proven oriole
#

i'll circle point like i'm in the air force doing CAS EVAC lmaoooo

pulsar nacelle
olive coral
remote phoenix
#

Did you ever get this resolved? Having the same issue. Completed battle pass -> purchased with BF Coins I already had on account -> didn't receive any unlocks but it spent my BF Coins -> Support is not helpful

olive coral
#

I play like it's MGS usually lol

spiral timber
pulsar nacelle
#

Bring back Night mode

remote phoenix
olive coral
#

But if the people I'm playing against are just TOO good, or the team I'm up against is just facerolling my team, why stick around and "get my shit pushed in" (a quote from either BF3 or 4 soldiers lmao) when I can just leave and join another one that I'll have more fun in?

slender epoch
#

i quit out of 4 games in a row last night lol all teams were getting slammed

proven oriole
#

because it's being a good sport toughing out a hard time

olive coral
#

I never understood that stubbornness of people who refuse to leave even when they're miserable

proven oriole
#

you gotta let others win sometimes

olive coral
#

Toughing it out I get, I don't leave every single match I'm losing. It's not about winning.

pulsar nacelle
#

Idk. If you start caring about your stats or w/l ratio. It becomes such a chore

proven oriole
#

I been playing battlefield since 1942

pulsar nacelle
#

To each their own

olive coral
#

But when I'm being dunked on, stomped, have no chance in the fight, I'm being basically bullied lol... Nah I'm outta there.

proven oriole
#

got my account reset stat padding in bf2 and never cared about stats ever since

slow rapids
pulsar nacelle
proven oriole
#

we used to air drop the truck on strike at karkand into hotel and glitch into the wall and shoot people from inside lmfaoo

#

ever since then never took a bf game seriously

olive coral
#

Yeah for me it's not about stats or w/l at all, just purely fun and the idea of my precious little free time being wasted in misery lol can't deal with that.

pulsar nacelle
#

I should re download 2042

slow rapids
#

dont lol

olive coral
#

Why when BF6 exists

pulsar nacelle
#

So I can fly in the tornado

young heart
#

Any else have issue getting in a portal server?

slow rapids
#

specialist system 😔

spiral timber
uncut cobalt
#

Imagine calling golmud massive

#

It's just an ordinary large map to battlefield standards

pulsar nacelle
#

You know

#

They could just...idk

#

Make a large map to battlefield standards

#

Hehe just a crazy thought

proven oriole
#

you're asking EA to do their job bro

#

aint HAPPENING

pulsar nacelle
uncut cobalt
#

I won't deny that I'm excited for it. But still . Out of all of the battlefield 4 maps they could have chosen this is probably the most boring

pulsar nacelle
#

Recycling maps is just so boring

uncut cobalt
#

Damavand peak would've been better

slender epoch
#

never had to leave out of this many hopeless games bf1/5 i typically stayed even through the worst lobbys

proven oriole
#

dang, I kinda expected long time player corleone to be in this server

#

dude was an absolute MENACE as commander

wise cloak
slender epoch
#

at least with persistent servers it alleviates getting thrown into repetitive maps and incites a more genuine experience

tropic imp
#

i'm okay with recycling maps as long as they feel newish and hold to the old standards. If they are good maps. Obviously some new shit too.

candid sphinx
#

Bigger maps isn’t gonna magically make bf6 better. 2042 had big maps and it that didn’t help that game at all

tropic imp
#

I do feel like the gameplay has really kind of nose dived the last 3-4 weeks Especially in the jets.

wise cloak
slow rapids
tropic imp
#

i kill in them, but am getting so much pressure from everywhere now. Helis seem to be able get into HQ now and camp the runway. So they are locking on you before you can even evade. Pretty wild if the other teams jets are airborn

gentle zodiac
#

Anyone else notice that they can't select Lang's default skin anymore?

tropic imp
#

The base AA is either godlike or complete garbage it seems

gentle zodiac
#

Lovely.

summer stone
#

Is it too late to make deleting Blackwell Fields part of season 3?

wise cloak
#

it looks cool though

summer stone
#

Right behind 2042s Kaleidoscope as worst BF map

slender epoch
#

one of the main reasons why i personally loved golmud. was the attack jet gameplay. sucks that it’s non existent in this game :((

#

can’t even make loadouts

nocturne pebble
slender epoch
#

i had 117 service stars on attacks jets alone in bf4 lol

gentle zodiac
#

I'd rather they fix the PAX ATP to show the actual PAX default skin, instead of NATO's.

tropic imp
steel zephyr
#

Battlefield is dead

slender epoch
steel zephyr
#

We need to make battlefield more inclusive to revive it

tropic imp
#

thats how it always seems to be in the last 2 battlefields. Ambushes and whoever gets the jump on the other wins. Which is fine but not having like decoupled freelook, air radar, and other ways of detecting your threats sucks. Not to mention being painted, and locked from various diff sources.

#

they give you such a small air space to play in that you can't resolve air combat without being forced into another jets cannons by someone on the ground

hallow geode
steel zephyr
#

Make battlefield inclusive again

slender epoch
steel zephyr
#

I want all my furry friends to feel safe and respected here

idle kelp
wise cloak
# steel zephyr Battlefield is dead

It certainly does feel that way even more so during the week. I find alot more of my fun coming from understanding how to make bots do things feels like I am playing a strategy game sandbox. Coming down to which team can utilize bots better as well as use vehicles of course.

tropic imp
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being able to dive in attack, pull straight up and or back or somehow either gain altitude was really decent. Now your only hope with camping is to pull an aggressive maneuver, flare, and drop below radar and evade incoming cannon fire. It's pretty horrible if your being camped

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you can't loop/yoyo or anything because it's all interrupted by the ground. Helis seem to be like really causing major harm now too. I'm not sure what they changed but it feels even worse. Not a great state to launch golmund in. When will we see tuesdays patch notes?

slender epoch
tropic imp
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nah i'm just a jet guy. I like the nightbird a bit...but i don't really play it

worldly trail
wise cloak
# steel zephyr Battlefield is dead

I have to say bots being on your squad also an improvement. I remeber when the game laucnhed I would be in a matcha all by myself. Game start animation my soldier looking to the left and there was no squad mate in sight 🤣 .

tropic imp
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yeah New Sobek City is worse than blackwell i think. Blackwell changes things up. It's prob shit for infantry players but kind of fun for vehicle players. Jets have to fly really weird like on there to not be instant killed. it is pretty intense. Mostly in a bad way

worldly trail
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There are too many tanks. A common BF6 issue.

tropic imp
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i kind of like tanks if it's balanced or can be countered. Not a fan of how some of them can play especially on operations :S....

wise cloak
tropic imp
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with lots of tanks at least they can attempt to fight each other. Or if jets/helis are around it can be balanced. But not when they have a chain of engineers repairing 1 tank and they are blasting. Feels awful.

worldly trail
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I hope Blackwell gets escalation after the rework

tropic imp
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i'd rather not even worry about a rework and just move on. I thought we learned a lesson in 2042 reworking maps

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it felt like the game hardly changed... Some of the reworks made me sad too. At least they are only doing 2 maps i guess. I'd rather just they put efforts elsewhere and let us have dedicated servers and map rotations that excluded those maps 😛

wise cloak
worldly trail
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It only has conquest

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For the biggest modes

wise cloak
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breakthrough as well I swear I have played breakthrough

lapis bloom
wise cloak
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I havent played much escalation but blackwell feilds makes so much sense for it thats odd

worldly trail
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It does have breakthrough

tropic imp
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i feel like battlefield 6 needs me in the air but i'm pretty frustrated with the game right now. Hope we get tuesdays patch notes soon

white basin
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Bro the M20 feels so good on redsec

kind bane
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did they made some netcode changes? Cuz rn it's the most unpleasant experience. Dying as late as 300ms behind cover and dumping whole mags into enemies just to deal 24dmg

white basin
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Nah just u

wise cloak
tropic imp
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yeah, escalation, breakthru, and conquest are all bf6 needs for gamemodes. I guess sometimes rush was good in past titles. It's kind of lack luster when you dip down to smaller engagements. I use to love 128 conquest in 2042 :X 64 is okay in bf6 but anything less then that the game feels dead or it's like not enough threat. I want large scale battles not like counterstrike or rainbow six game play 😄

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it's suppose to be a battlefield not a skirmish

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operations is good too...kind of pieces together 2 maps which i like.

magic belfry
wise cloak
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BlobPopcorn negative attention is still attention

devout sedge
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Why do you get more recoil when using a 1-5x scope. You should be more accurate when using it shouldn't you?

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Specifically on the 4-5x range

wise cloak
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I didnt know that if its true. Thought the penalty/balance was the attachment cost

modest jackal
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In reality, the lower the FoV is, the more the Recoil is visually higher.

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And vice versa.

devout horizon
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do u think DICE has statistics of what % of players are playing what class overall

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im looking at my CQ server and over half of each team is engineer

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would love to know how it differs between titles with locked class weapons

wise cloak
devout horizon
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thats the point, when the game had class locked gear, u still didnt as many engineers bc they only had smgs or dmrs

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u still had a bunch ofc, carbines too