battlefield-6

[grave stump]

Ak had more recoil too lmao

[versed moon]

it would be fine if it wasnt possible to sit in the redzone unkillable for a 30 min game

[grave stump]

Either way my point is, people glazing bf3/bf4

are just nostalgia pilled

[versed moon]

very much

i played bf4 near daily till 2023-4 ish. it has many issues

[grave stump]

bf3 gun balance was
"make all guns basically copy paste of each other with same stats except RPM and some recoil"

which resulted in two things
99.9% of assault players that had any idea what are they doing

would run AEK

or m16a3

Every engi would run Mtar

Every support would run either m240B or Iar

and thats about it

[versed moon]

bf4 had sooo many copy paste guns

dont remember half tbh

[grave stump]

bf3 is all copy paste

just look at bf3 sym websites

its all the same shit

i can bet 1000 bucks that if dice were to just drop bf3 now , keep it same as it was on bf3 release but with new graphics

after 2 weeks people would come back and say "dice ruined bf3"

"its unplayable mess"

"bring back operation metro.. that map was so peak!"

the peak in question was sitting in one tight corridor in the middle of the map throwing 1000 trillion grenades

untill someone finally gets bored nad tries rushing in to instantly die

[abstract nexus]

Metro slander detected opinion invalidated

[grave stump]

lets be deadass here

for a moment

[abstract nexus]

But yeah the guns were copy paste

[grave stump]

as a kid i loved metro cuz "wow explosion cool"

[abstract nexus]

Idk about 4

[grave stump]

but i came back to bf3 2-3 years ago and metro was

soo boring

bf3 is also just AEK and m16 for a bit longer ranges

[abstract nexus]

Idk sounds like someone was losing

[cedar briar]

thats how it is though.. things seem great at the time, it's seomthing new.. going back to it years later doesnt always have the same affect

[grave stump]

Bf6 gun balance as "meme" as it is

is actually waaay better than bf3 or bf4

ever was

cuz u actually have meaningful tradeoffs

[abstract nexus]

Rh

Eh*

Balance no

Diversity yes

[grave stump]

not
gun A has 650RPM and 0.3 recoil
gun B has 750 rpm and 0.31 recoil

like in bf3

[modest dome]

is it just me or you cant spam click the beacon to spawn??

[grave stump]

not to mention bf3

locked a lot of meta guns

in their DLC's

Mtar which was like the best gun engineer could have

needed a DLC

One shot crossbow? Dlc

if u didnt have DLC you could have either a supressor or a flashlight on your m1911

with DLC u could have both

[fallen fox]

a FAL in the game would be nice

[grave stump]

i dont think it would fit cuz TR-7 and AK4D already exist

[abstract nexus]

Nvo is basically an ace which is basically a fal

[fallen fox]

make it the sa58

[grave stump]

NVO is ACE

but dunno what israeli gun have to do with belgium made gun

[fallen fox]

but the funny fal looking charging handle

[grave stump]

HK slap is better

[abstract nexus]

Ace was made in response to fal since they couldnt buy fals

[grave stump]

Fal overall was a funny gun

Brits got so tired of soldiers missing trillion shots with full auto

they made their own british fal with full auto removed

lol

[fallen fox]

fal but stripper clips in the big 65

[modest jackal]

I mean, early FALs fired at 750 RPM.

[fair mantle]

anyone know why im sutck at deploy screen? I cant do anything

I can't even go to settings

[grave stump]

yeah british L1A1

got rid of any other shooting option but single shot

i could see L1A1 being added

as DMR

[fallen fox]

Would be the sa58

[fair mantle]

I think my chat tab is litteraly locking me out from deploying wtf is this

[fallen fox]

Possible pax chinese faction?
They already added the qbz

[modest jackal]

QBZ-06 would be hilarious.

[upbeat spade]

Reee

[crimson garden]

Penguin glad EA team can filter away the troll comments online! 😃 And to see the actual feedback about Battlefield 6 🔭 🦢

[modest dome]

guys?

is it just me or you cant spam click the beacon to spawn??

[upbeat spade]

All is working

[olive coral]

I remember being in awe of explosions making craters in the ground. I wanna say this was in the beta but didn't make it to the main game or something? Hard to remember now. I just distinctly remember craters in the first sector of Metro.

[weary mantle]

would any of you happen to know if the 5.11 bundle in game is still available somewhere? I just got the one on the 5.11 website while getting new uniforms for work, was hoping to get the remainder of the operator skins too

[shadow rampart]

????

Metro had the ceilings held up by pieces of wood that collapsed

That was basically it

There was zero ground destruction

[olive coral]

Seems I remembered right actually, it wasn't in the final game but only the beta.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/lxvem/um_why_isnt_this_destruction_in_the_final_game/#:~:text=C4 and other explosives could create deep,you could take cover in. With enough

[slender epoch]

in rush the second sector would open from a scripted explosion

on 3

[upbeat spade]

My little soda pop

[opal oracle]

Anybody on

[fair perch]

May i ask what is it?

[modest dome]

Check my setup at least in #screenshots-and-clips

[rugged mango]

I heard dice is gonna do a ttk nerf anyone know more about this?

[grim steppe]

Perhaps a mix of rof and bullet req to kill changes

Depending on the gun

Could also be bundled in with some other accuracy tweaks/spread changes

Not much to specifics about that though

[frosty pier]

Playing battlefield 6 with cinematic music is just a different experience man

[rugged mango]

Would love for this to happen tbh

Tired of being 1 framed like it’s cod

[pastel sedge]

Ubisoft already did the black flag remaster because they know. Bf3/4 remaster would be great. Gives us another 10 years to play and die before we have to witness another new bf

[rugged mango]

I need to get the remaster tbh

I just bought AC shadows so I’m holding off for now

[shadow rampart]

You mean like Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On?

[olive coral]

Black Flag is a ground-up remake actually. They'll likely never do a full remake of BF3 or 4, but them remaking some maps and including them in BF6 is good enough for me personally.

[rugged mango]

I just wish operation locker was in bf6

Yeah yeah Hagental base

Sure that map is cool

[shadow rampart]

They call me the Ghost of Hagental

[stiff zenith]

i wish thermals for the tanks were back

[barren prism]

Honestly yes 😭🙏

[stiff zenith]

there has been to many times ive blown up by someone that i cannot see cause they are hiding, quite annoyong honestly

[rugged mango]

Whatever the next battlefield is I would rather them spend like 5-6 years working on the game and get a complete product than for them to do a repeat of 2042 and some parts of bf6

[frosty pier]

divinity by heron vale

Holy cinema

[slender epoch]

just read the mortar changes w

massive w

expedite s3 make it come early lol

[upbeat spade]

Mortar dead

I stat padded enough while it was busted

Rest in peace mortar

[olive coral]

#FreeRosey? What happened lmao

[lapis jacinth]

?

[rich torrent]

Mortars were fine honestly.

[fiery oxide]

nice bait

[rich torrent]

It's not but aight.

Whole 2 weeks of playing Operations and died to a Mortar once.

[olive coral]

They're mostly annoying/disturbing. It's not that I get killed by them all the time, though I have 3-4 times so far.

[slender epoch]

colossal win mortar mains in shambles

[olive coral]

Disturbing without a solid reliable counter = not fun.

[rich torrent]

We shouldn't base balance off of something being "annoying" though.

[olive coral]

Disturbing is the better word

Annoying makes it sound petty

[slender epoch]

there was no hard counter to it the drone would not reach the mortar and that’s to so called “gadget deleter”

[rich torrent]

I mean Support has a whole gadget for it with an almost instant resupply.

[olive coral]

Mortars in HQ is so easily abused and it ruins games when it's taken advantage of

[slender epoch]

that’s whole other problem lol support is stacked with good gadgets

[olive coral]

And the thing is, I don't believe the game was unbalanced before they made that change.

[upbeat spade]

Stat padders complained

[slender epoch]

i don’t think it should have the ammo box .

[rich torrent]

Oh for sure.

[slender epoch]

but that’s just me 🍵

[rich torrent]

If more people ran the gadget for stopping mortars on Support then Mortars would be even more useless.

[upbeat spade]

Shooting straight while running around is too much for brain. One task at a time

[olive coral]

Which is just letting mortar spammers dictate the match

[slender epoch]

ain’t no one gonna do that man i can’t even get medics to rez when they are right there

[rich torrent]

Wether people do or don't is another thing but balance should be based around balance, not people being bad.

[fiery oxide]

Yall fell for the bait

smh my head

[rich torrent]

You disagreeing doesn't mean it's bait.

[olive coral]

He wasn't baiting

But the "people being bad" part turned me off from responding anymore tbh lol

[rich torrent]

Mortars aren't an issue, it takes two hits to die to one and they are inaccurate and countered with a single class/gadget.

[olive coral]

I just hope the accuracy change in S3 is going to be enough.

Because the ammo not being infinite literally does nothing because people will resupply their mortar gadget via ammo bag, which they already place every time they deploy a mortar, and redeploy a new one as soon as the old one is out.

[slender epoch]

i will collect mortar mains tears today

[warm cobalt]

did anyone still haven't receive their beta and 2042 stuff??

[slender epoch]

🫴💧

gimme

[rich torrent]

Like don't get me wrong, Mortars could be balanced better but they just aren't in a position to have this crazy reaction over that people have at the moment.

[slender epoch]

no more 6+ mortars off rip in bt

[upbeat spade]

The real issue is we don’t have naval warfare yet

We also don’t have horses

[slender epoch]

we used to dream of times like this

[cursive temple]

Yes i did get it

[slender epoch]

[pastel sedge]

Its been a long time since games are released in a normal state or are not early acess.

[upbeat spade]

Bring back Horses

[cursive temple]

No

[slender epoch]

bring back junkers pre nerf

[olive coral]

To call BF6 a repeat of 2042 is ridiculous lol

[cursive temple]

What's that?

[slender epoch]

ju88 bomber

[rich torrent]

Also - what's this preorder for a battle pass.

I find that ridiculous.

[cursive temple]

Just pre order it

[olive coral]

You get like two tier skips as a bonus right? lol it is silly.

[rich torrent]

Yea I know but like, really..?

[cursive temple]

Yes just do it

[rich torrent]

Like we can't even see what's in it yet they wanna charge beforehand?

[cursive temple]

Unless your poor

[rich torrent]

Crazy concept imo.

[upbeat spade]

Bring back wing suit and grapple hook

[olive coral]

I'm sure I'll buy it regardless but it's a ballsy move to make a season pass pre-orderable

[slender epoch]

i just want premium with my maps that was a good deal

[rich torrent]

[slender epoch]

yup

let’s go

[warm cobalt]

somehow i still haven't recieved it

[rich torrent]

Love me some dead DLCs a week after launch.

[olive coral]

Bring back Rosey lol what happened

[cursive temple]

It would cost to much in this economy

[hallow geode]

Bonnie Tyler - Total eclipse of the heart they mean duhhh BF4 mission

[slender epoch]

dlc wouldn’t die if the game had 700-800k players

[cursive temple]

What platform you play

[slender epoch]

sadly it’s not like that anymore

dropped the ball

[olive coral]

This is the problem I had with BF4. I never got to play most of that premium content because people only ran like 4 or 5 maps 24/7.

[slender epoch]

theres* more ps5 in circulation rn than any other console i think it would have been fine

[olive coral]

Oh is it too soon?

[rich torrent]

Exactly, and now a days people don't want to be spending an extra $50/$70 AUSD on an already $110 AUSD title.

[slender epoch]

plus cod was on the decline

i mean people are spending money on skins and passes anyway ❓

almost more money than 100 over the entire games cycle

[olive coral]

Just cosmetic stuff though, different than maps that you need others to play with you on

Actually jk they have bots now.

[rich torrent]

Skins are cheaper.

[hallow geode]

BF4 made all of its DLC completely free to download and own permanently at least once or twice and it still doesn't guarantee you'll get games on any of the DLC maps

[rich torrent]

Pay walls are also just terrible.

[slender epoch]

skins are 20 quid each lol

[rich torrent]

I rarely see people running skins outside of the BP.

Which pays for itself.

[slender epoch]

i see them p often

[olive coral]

Yeah you won't catch me buying anything outside of the BP

One $10 charge for a year's+ worth of skins or like $15+ for one skin.

[hallow geode]

I'm happy to consider paying money for skins if they value me as a player but continuing to add construction sites instead of cool unique areas does not value me as a player.

[olive coral]

Thank you to those who buy the extras though...

[slender epoch]

still doesn’t stop people from buying

[mossy badge]

I've never used mortars

[olive coral]

Lmao construction sites

[slender epoch]

last bundle had ai sticker lol they are playing us like a fiddle

[olive coral]

Low key never thought about how common they are in BF maps but that's so true

[hallow geode]

When you go through all the maps and think about it. It's nutty how common they are lol

[slender epoch]

it’s ritual atp

[hallow geode]

Even redsec map has them all over the place

[slender epoch]

that’s why we have blow torch

[crimson garden]

Penguin often use all kinds of skins in BF6! 😃 But there's one Penguin still can't use due to bug season 1 😢

[olive coral]

Cranes, half-built warehouses, cement trucks, bulldozers, etc...

Concrete tubing lol

[slender epoch]

🐧 probably bought like 4 premium passes worth by now lol

[olive coral]

Penguin do you have all the bundles?

[slender epoch]

let me borrow one

[hallow geode]

If they find a way to put them on the naval maps imma lose it

[olive coral]

Can I hold the green goblin bundle

[olive coral]

I think they made some new assets for those maps so probably won't have to reuse the classic construction site assets

[crimson garden]

Penguin store pretty empty indeed. But! What Penguin didn't realize is that they decided to remove the Season 1 Advanced packs on Steam once Season 2 launched. That's not due to a bug though, but due to Penguin lack of knowledge believing the Season 1 kits would still be for sale like they often do in other games. Penguin still got the BF6 pro season 1 of course.

[hallow geode]

I never played wake island but I'm hoping the original didn't contain any construction sites lol

[slender epoch]

they’ll be back to turn manhattan snowy again

[upbeat spade]

She got the hammer

[olive coral]

They usually make each one pretty different

[slender epoch]

rosy was just talking yesterday ?

[olive coral]

I'm shocked, she seemed chill

[slender epoch]

the helly

[olive coral]

Right, like when somebody suddenly dies "I just saw them"

[slender epoch]

da hecque

[hallow geode]

I bet operation firestorm was chosen to remake because it contained construction sites

[olive coral]

I bet you got something there lol

[slender epoch]

play charter?

[olive coral]

And right after you two married, tragic

[rich torrent]

Free the homie. 💔

[crimson garden]

Penguin question would be: Why remove Season 1 Advanced packs?

[velvet cedar]

Day 3 of looking for that free gift in the store. Where is it?

[upbeat spade]

Woah woah woah

When did we marry

[slender epoch]

fomo penguin fomo

[rich torrent]

Fomo isn't real

It can't hurt you

[slender epoch]

not me but some people it can

[hallow geode]

Used to be in featured tab but now it seems to be only on the pages you flick through at the top

[olive coral]

Here @upbeat spade

[upbeat spade]

Battlefield Wife

[velvet cedar]

nice, thanks i see it. gotta click the "details" button

[upbeat spade]

I have a personal repair with me

My little ammo pack

My little soda pop

[crimson garden]

Penguin thinks if they want to make money, why not put that content into sales rotation? To keep things available for sale, there might be new and future players who could want to buy items too you know 😎 Hopefully there's a long run plan and not only short term plan about it! Longrun like the bottleneck situation over there 👉 🦢

[olive coral]

Pretending you don't remember

[slender epoch]

bf6 is the best selling game of 2025 lol let me get my server browser first maybe

i’ll get a parachute

for the devs

🪂

[crimson garden]

Penguin says parachute can help with nice landings too

[vestal spoke]

So stoked for the upcoming seasons

Looks pretty promising

[olive coral]

Me too

[crimson garden]

Penguin believes from the look of it, Season 3 = very important moment for Battlefield 6! Like genuinely much so

[slender epoch]

oh that’s good to hear becuase i have a bad habit of jumping off the rocks on contaminated and thinking ill survive it without pulling the string

just gotta aim for the bushes

[olive coral]

Careful the Positive Play Charter doesn't get you for spamming

[frosty pier]

@frosty pier agrees! 😃

[vestal spoke]

Penguins are so cute

[olive coral]

Yeah whoever did these penguin art stickers is amazing

I would like to shake their hand

Or fin

[slender epoch]

mainly dice has to nail the “gunplay related changes” most important to not replicate bfv all over again

[crimson garden]

Penguin positive BF6 do BF6 style their own! 😃

[upbeat spade]

Or beak

[olive coral]

Replicate BFV in what way? I'm not clear on what happened through its lifecycle.

[slender epoch]

swinging ttk changes gave players whiplash and instead of hard focusing on content we got barely anything like a map or 2 a year

[subtle sluice]

Hmm

[slender epoch]

and by then the game already faded onto obscurity

[fiery oxide]

Who cares about that when the gunplay itself was terrible day 1

and never changed

[slender epoch]

i was typically in bothered by it becuase i mained recon so it was either headshot or bust. but overtime months and months would go and i could see player retention declined noticeably

[royal rampart]

Fix the registration, or I will delete the game, it’s just disgusting.

[dire harbor]

ok

[olive coral]

I did not like BFV gunplay tbh

[fallen fox]

Same

Its more arcadey than 1

[midnight solstice]

Who is ready for season 3

[frosty pier]

I’m already ready for season 4

I’m more hyped for S4 than 3

[midnight solstice]

You know what you right

I want to experience naval warfare

[slender epoch]

what yall didn’t like building sandbag baricades lol

[fallen fox]

Im excited for magnifiers and the m16

Thats it

[midnight solstice]

Dude

[fallen fox]

I suck at sniping but the awp is cool

[slender epoch]

i’m excited for all the 🍊 dots

[midnight solstice]

The m16 better be full auto

[fallen fox]

I need the carry handle

[daring girder]

not by default

[slender epoch]

say it ain’t so sway!

[midnight solstice]

It's going to be an attachment

Isn't it

What assault rifles are they going to bring in the future

[slender epoch]

aug

pls

[midnight solstice]

I hope the ACR is still in the Battlefield universe

That's a carbine isn't it

Or an AR

Oh okay

And ngl

The ttk changes

[daring girder]

bf4 slander ban him

[midnight solstice]

Send him to the gulag

He'll fight for survival

[slender epoch]

walk the plank!

[daring girder]

siberian gulag

[slender epoch]

i’m kidding man

there’s no suppression

[upbeat spade]

Bf6 is a bf4 sequel

[slender epoch]

like in bf4

[daring girder]

supression in bf6 is useless what

[slender epoch]

so it’s not a clone

[daring girder]

are we playing the same game

[slender epoch]

when you shot at a sniper in bf4 what did it make the sniper do

❓

[chilly crag]

Yes please!! The TTK, and fire rates are faster than the netcode can handle

[slender epoch]

it made them run man now in bf6 they can just stand there

[daring girder]

did you even play bf4

[slender epoch]

likes terminators t1000s

[upbeat spade]

Bf6 is actually
Battlefield 4: 2

4 plus 2

Equals 6

[slender epoch]

part 1

[upbeat spade]

Math

Battlefield 4: 2

[slender epoch]

quick maff

[upbeat spade]

Part 1

[daring girder]

not real

useless convo

i know I won't change your mind because said battleslop 4

[umbral flume]

We need more breathing room so the kts can beam more people across the map (kts has a faster bullet travel time then any of the snipers)

[slender epoch]

shooting a sniper giving them “suppression” in this game doesn’t matter becuase they’ll hit one tap perfectly anyway

nah it wasn’t like that

[daring girder]

bf4 suppresion gave bloom what are you talking about

[upbeat spade]

Bf4 suppression actuallly worked

[slender epoch]

you keep saying that lmao

[daring girder]

if you suppressed a sniper in bf4 they were useless

[slender epoch]

blured screen and nerfed accuracy

wdym man

[daring girder]

and health regen

[slender epoch]

boom health regen

[chilly crag]

It was kind of nice to be able to counter play snipers or DMRs by throwing some rounds at them while running for cover. I don’t see that happening in BF6 anymore

[grave stump]

Snipers were also weaker in bf3/bf4

than they are in bf6

[daring girder]

bf6 is mickey mouse fps its actually silly how easy it is

[grave stump]

BF4 didnt have "sweet spot"

u either headshot or u not 1 shotting someone

[daring girder]

sweet spot is the worst thing ever

[grave stump]

the bullet was fairly slow too

[daring girder]

training wheels

[grave stump]

bf6 snipers have muzzle velocity of like 900-1000

[slender epoch]

it shouldn’t be in here lol

[grave stump]

bf4 it was like 550?

[daring girder]

i think the fastest was like 600 lol

[grave stump]

yeah

[fiery oxide]

Good thing the majority of snipers still cant hit the broad side of a barn

[chilly crag]

This game is just call of duty now

[grave stump]

i think the only one having 800 ish velocity

was that pick up only 50 cal sniper

that u had 2 mags for and its out

[slender epoch]

ya but we shouldn’t be catering to them like that

[grave stump]

i mean bf6 TTK is fastest it has every been

[daring girder]

670m/s is the fastest bf4 sniper

[modest jackal]

NGL, that's just painful for a Sniper Rifle.

[slender epoch]

my blueberries can’t hit the broadside of the barn other team never misses lol seems believable

[chilly crag]

How come? What’s the difference anymore?

[grave stump]

No, bf3 and bf4 all had much slower TTK

[slender epoch]

it’s got cod tones to it but still vastly different in most ways

[daring girder]

the average bf player is HORRIBLE and they are just making the game easier and easier so they can get kills but its whatever

thats just modern gaming

[chilly crag]

Okay so besides vehicles? The movement and guns

[grave stump]

it doesnt? every gun in bf4 deals 24.5 damage (AR)

that means its always 5 shot kill

even at minimum range

[modest jackal]

I'd say Sniper Rifle Velocity should average 750-800 m/s TBH.

[slender epoch]

no perks killstreaks

[grave stump]

bf3 had 25 damage but only up to 10M

its not?

[slender epoch]

give it a lil dip

[grave stump]

iam looking at gun stats as we speak

stop trolling

[slender epoch]

also had 2.1 hs mult

[chilly crag]

The last battlefield game I played before this was BF4. Had I known BF6 had whatever the F a battlepass was, jumping and sliding around, ridiculous skins, small maps, and battle royale things I wouldn’t have bought, why wouldn’t I just play COD?

[grave stump]

https://sym.gg/legacy/index.html?game=bf4&page=charts

[modest jackal]

Yeah, that's fine enough.

[grave stump]

??

24.5 damage

[muted temple]

bf4 released with 25 damage. its been 24.5 for a dam long time

[grave stump]

release bf4 was dogshit

everyone hated it

dice hired Dice LA studio which fixed it

[muted temple]

im well aware

[grave stump]

but on release bf4 was absolute garbage can and everyone called it worse than bf3

[muted temple]

yes the bulldog and scar are 33 damage

[grave stump]

so still 1 more bullet than bf6?

[modest jackal]

NGL, Damage in Decimals have always felt cursed outside of PvZ GW Games.

[grave stump]

they dont deal 33 damage in bf6

they deal 33.5 damage

[frosty pier]

YOOOOO

[grave stump]

they were 4 shot kill in bf4

not 3

[frosty pier]

BATTLEFILED 1 IS 1$

[slender epoch]

i liked the ace 52 just to find out it was bugged at launch

[frosty pier]

AND BATTLEIFELD 4

[grave stump]

what u on about

every AR has at least 20M range where its 4 shot kill

[frosty pier]

Battlefield 1 is 1$ gng

[grave stump]

"big booolet" ones have 3

??

[slender epoch]

1 whole quid

[grave stump]

u okay?

i dont see ur argument

i said bf4 had 25% longer TTK

and it did

as u need +1 extra bullet even at minimum range

are u dense?

every AR

has 20M max damage

in this game

[rugged mango]

Peak

[grave stump]

where are u taking 10M from?

Carbines?

m433 , VCR, Tr7.AK4d

[rugged mango]

It’s a shame battlefield 1 isn’t that popular anymore

[grave stump]

all have 20M maximum damage range

ak4d insane recoil?

[slender epoch]

i liked bf1 m95 was my shiiih

[grave stump]

xD?

Tr 7 insane recoil ?

Vcr?

just say u are a bot

[rugged mango]

I don’t even touch the VCR lol

[daring girder]

nothing in this game has insane recoil are you terrible

like pull down your mouse???

[rugged mango]

I tried the VCR once and never used it again

[grave stump]

Also notice how the bullet velocity

is much slower in bf4 too

[muted temple]

your loss

[grave stump]

made it much harder to engage at range

[daring girder]

ok gimme a second

[grave stump]

in BF6 u can swap the barrel and get close to 1000m/s

[rugged mango]

I’d rather use tr7

[grave stump]

while a lot of bf4 guns had 550/600 as absolute max

[chilly crag]

I just use a controller and every gun is a laser beam

[daring girder]

don't even get me started lol

controller gets a free 45 point grip

[pastel sedge]

I think dice needs to advertise the use of the TR7 more. Just so we can have the whole playerbase exclusively play with the TR7

[rugged mango]

I really need to invest In a controller

[daring girder]

or a better mouse hehehe

[grave stump]

TR7 is already the fast TTK in AR category

[chilly crag]

And auto aim

[grave stump]

fastest

[rugged mango]

What mouse do you recommend big shot

[grave stump]

Nothing is gonna beat tr7 in 20m range

[pastel sedge]

IN THE GAME

[daring girder]

lowkey love my inca

[grave stump]

thats simply false

[pastel sedge]

well other than the shotgun

[daring girder]

i assume you play claw or ftip?

[slender epoch]

auto aim isn’t all good it’s annoying if anything

[rugged mango]

I palm grip

[chilly crag]

Only grips I use now with a controller on pc is whatever cheapest ones give me faster ADS

[grave stump]

pretty sure certain SMG and carbines outdps it at 10m range

[slender epoch]

recoil reduction is the noticeable part

[rugged mango]

Lowkey I’ve been thinking of the DeathAdder v4 pro

[slender epoch]

the game doesn’t need that lol just add grip or stock attachments to less recoil no need for the 25% controller reduction imo

[daring girder]

2c is tiny for palm what da hell

[rugged mango]

Yeah with the 2c 8 claw or fingertip

[grave stump]

Vector 100% does more DPS than tr7

[rugged mango]

I have a ton of mice in my collection

[daring girder]

yeah same I have like 9 on my desk right now

[grave stump]

SCW-10 as well

[daring girder]

inca, op1, and l7 ultra + are my favs rn

[slender epoch]

good day for mortar mains

[grave stump]

U can absolutely control tr7

i have no idea what u on about

[rugged mango]

I have vv3pro, superlight 2c, DEX, g203,model O wireless, g403, Scyrox v6

Uhhh

[fiery oxide]

Why would anyone use 0 attachments

[daring girder]

relax kiddo im making the clip

[rugged mango]

How do you find the op18k?

[daring girder]

i use the 4k

i don't want a wire and 8k is bad

[rugged mango]

Makes sense

I play on 2k

8k polling is useless

[daring girder]

cpu usage on 8k is so high

[rugged mango]

2k polling is the sweet spot highkey

[daring girder]

yeh thats what I use on everything

clueless above me

[rugged mango]

There’s no benefit to using 8k bro 😂

We’re not talking about controllers

[fiery oxide]

Dude 8k polling being cpu intensive is common knowledge

[rugged mango]

We’re talking about mice

[fiery oxide]

and it's completely useless

[rugged mango]

Silly noob

[fiery oxide]

Yes on any cpu

[daring girder]

mf I have a 7800x3d

it is USELESS

[rugged mango]

I have a 7700x

[grave stump]

40m , no attachments at all https://streamable.com/4ta05i

not even a sight

enjoy 🙂

[muted temple]

in what world is that perfect recoil control?

[grave stump]

Stop moving your goalposts bro

[daring girder]

https://streamable.com/py5b94

is this better

[grave stump]

who said perfect recoil control?

its a fully naked tr-7 with irons

[daring girder]

vcr from even further

yeah idc enough

[rugged mango]

VCR ain’t even fun to use 🥀

[daring girder]

wasted more time than I wanted to prove you wrong

you are a .9

we are not the same

[grave stump]

tbh i prefer using m433

Feels better to use

[muted temple]

every gun is viable. its all about feel and engagement distance

this is a stupid argument

[rugged mango]

Attacking one’s intelligence isn’t the brightest thing you can do here buddy

It means you lost the argument

[grave stump]

Counter argument, Sor 556

[muted temple]

for when you want to snipe but also want full auto xD

[daring girder]

😮

[grave stump]

its L86 but worse in every way 😄

[tidal current]

Are people still pretending that they can perfectly control randomly deviating recoil?

[daring girder]

you mean the gun with NO attachments has recoil

WHAT

yeah bc i can

[grave stump]

Nah, benchy is just moving goalposts

and changing argument

[tidal current]

you cannot.

[grave stump]

we went from "you cannot control tr7 at all " to " i expect you to beam people at 50M with no attachments on moving target on live server to prove me wrong"

[tidal current]

ah

[daring girder]

you wanted worst case scenario so I gave it to you

[tidal current]

the humble semi-automaitic mode:

[grave stump]

dunno what u doing that u engage people with VCR at 70m out

[muted temple]

you dont?

[daring girder]

https://streamable.com/v64vmw

[muted temple]

not without tap firing

[daring girder]

full auto braindead m433 spraying

[grave stump]

tell that to benchy not me

lol

he wants a clip of VCR "beaming" someone at the end of the map

TR7 is a CQB gun, and yes with tap fire u can absolutly do fine at that ranges

[rugged mango]

All you can do is tap fire

[grave stump]

Sure, i will get back to you once i actually unlock TR7 attachments

[daring girder]

bro is god at moving goal posts

[grave stump]

lul

[muted temple]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[grave stump]

even if u posted a clip of doing just that

he would then say that it doenst count

cuz the enemy wasnt on adrenaline

sprinting

[edgy ginkgo]

Ah yes because nobody runs from bullets

In human history

[muted temple]

if you show me someone perfectly controlling recoil i will show you someone using norecoil cheats xD

[edgy ginkgo]

Ever

[grave stump]

benchy i will tell a secret

tr7 and vcr are cqb guns

[muted temple]

^^^

[edgy ginkgo]

Blake that was you calling that 15 round wasting slopfest shooting session "perfect recoil control"

Idc what you think victy

[daring girder]

i wanna see you try

you speak big words

[grave stump]

post a clip

bro

show us ur greatness

[edgy ginkgo]

Thats why I don't go around spouting nonsense about it being easy

[daring girder]

IT IS EASY

[tidal current]

So what is Benchy trying to argue here?

[grave stump]

that tr7 sucks cuz recoil bad

[edgy ginkgo]

If it was so easy why did it take you 20+ rounds to kill a standing still target

Lmao I never said tr7 sucked

You're actually trash

[grave stump]

bro is so mad

[edgy ginkgo]

I said that it had high recoil like the vcr

[grave stump]

its higher

actually

but then u can mod tr7

to minimise it

The clip i showed at 30m was pure naked gun with ironsights

with full anti recoil build u can probably knock down recoil by like 50%

[slender epoch]

don’t really see all that many people using the tr

[bleak imp]

Damn

Victy nice pfp

[grave stump]

dunno how to explain it but its kinda unfun to use

lol

[slender epoch]

i see more kord users than tr

[grave stump]

but then i also dont see anyone using AK4D and that gun is really good

[grave stump]

which is funny cuz kord is ass

[quartz karma]

its very random

[grave stump]

Thanks i made it

[muted temple]

hollow point rounds are the only redeeming thing for it

[bleak imp]

That is kinda DMR you know

[grave stump]

doenst stop it from having fairly fast TTK

[bleak imp]

Lets guess There should be a PSG-1

[bleak imp]

Not too bad ngl

[tidal current]

do any attachments reduce the random recoil variation?

[grave stump]

but yeah AK4D stands for DMR version

[muted temple]

if you can hit yo headshots kord can be a beast. if you cant. use anything else

[daring girder]

@edgy ginkgo https://streamable.com/t7ttw4

[bleak imp]

Just need a aim speed build

[grave stump]

No, but recoil build up lets you tap fire effectively

[bleak imp]

That Name lmfao

[grave stump]

in cqb it doesnt matter regardless

[slender epoch]

i liked using the kord to level 40 it’s definitely the gun i use when the sweats are stacking

[bleak imp]

Mid gun ngl

[muted temple]

converter makes the recoil deviation more vertical. barely

[grave stump]

Why tho? Kord is fairly eh

[bleak imp]

Ass long range

[tidal current]

yeah thats gonna be the main limit to making it or the VHS controllable

[slender epoch]

it’s mid but i make it work

gotta get up close and personal

[grave stump]

Kord isnt even "bad" when it comes to range

the DPS on it just sucks

[muted temple]

kord feels good cause its very accurate

thats about it

[grave stump]

it has longer TTK than AK4D so why bother?

[tidal current]

5.45 guns bore me to tears

[bleak imp]

And then low damage offsets it

[daring girder]

kord is controller dad gun

[bleak imp]

Yeah makes sense

[tidal current]

BF6 massacred the aks

[untold ridge]

Just had a 29-1 game on Iberian wtih the SG553 ... Goodbye my old friend 😫

[muted temple]

hence why i said earlier hollow points required

[bleak imp]

Makes sense

[slender epoch]

i don’t use it all the time hahah

i’ve been liking the b36 a lot

[bleak imp]

Pfft I cant afford PC

[bleak imp]

Not bad

[grave stump]

very nice gun

[bleak imp]

Quite versatile

[grave stump]

universal as hell

[bleak imp]

Ye

[grave stump]

but TBH , i feel like 90% of AR are good

only l86 and SOR feel dog

but outside of that? they are all at least okay

[bleak imp]

Inaccurate bloom

Istg the bloom is heavy as shit

[tidal current]

You can definitley get work out of the SCAR

[grave stump]

Yeah but what for

the TTK is horrendous

[bleak imp]

Agreed

[grave stump]

any CQB is insta lose

[untold ridge]

So what you all think of the maybe incoming (HEFTY) recoil changes?

[bleak imp]

Long range only ngl

[tidal current]

Long range AR mostly.
It has the smoothest recoil in the category.

[grave stump]

for long range

i will just use Ak4D

which is competetive in both long ranges

and CQB

[bleak imp]

20 long range

And yeah headshots on it is quite nice

I think 28 or 33

[grave stump]

Sor is just underwhelming

i wish it had some quirk to make using it justified cuz of slow ass rof

like idk 30M 25 damage

or something

[bleak imp]

Holy shit

[daring girder]

now he is my dm's crying saying im on controller hahahahaha

[bleak imp]

Thats why I use CRT

[grave stump]

did he got muted here?

xD

[daring girder]

i think so

[muted temple]

if you are using controller you have no say in the recoil argument xD

[tidal current]

I usually just run whichever gun the map's faction would so I've gotten a lot of use out of the Scar. Its pretty reliable.

[untold ridge]

Controller reoil is going to get nerfed in season 3

[daring girder]

reported one of my messages about suppression being a psyop

[muted temple]

25% less recoil

[slender epoch]

why are we controller shaming like it’s our fault devs put recoil reduction lol

[grave stump]

i tried SOR

i dont like it

which is shame cuz i love Scar L irl a lot

[slender epoch]

i would prefer more recoil

[muted temple]

not shaming. its just a statement. 25% less recoil is ALOT

[untold ridge]

Because you choose to play on a stupid input device (soup, fork) ... and now we had to design a whole cheating system so you could eat your soup with that fork

[muted temple]

basically a whole different sandbox of balance

[untold ridge]

It makes the TR7 the MP5

30%

[slender epoch]

again it’s not my fault the devs did it

[untold ridge]

Imagine a TR-7 with MP5 recoil

[untold ridge]

No, you should just NOT play shooters with a freaking derptroller

🙂

[tidal current]

Are you expecting console players to use a keyboard and mouse?

[grave stump]

that guy is funny anyway

[untold ridge]

YES

[grave stump]

i have total of 16-20h in bf6

i bought the game a week ago

[tidal current]

on a couch?

[muted temple]

yes xD

[grave stump]

if i can somehow control tr7 recoil , so can the god of battlefield he claims to be

[untold ridge]

screw your couch, sit upright you lazy bum 😄

[muted temple]

xD

[untold ridge]

Anyway, they're going to ADD more recoil for the controller most likely

[copper knoll]

dude's stupid

[tidal current]

its f*cking battlefield, Im not even sober half the time

[muted temple]

fair

[daring girder]

i think there is a correlation between skill and hating enders 😅

[tidal current]

Oh god hes in my DMs now

[slender epoch]

man we are really blaming controller ain’t cool man

[grave stump]

xD

shit is funny

[muted temple]

🤣

[tidal current]

enders is the epitome of "guy who agrees with you in the most obnoxious way possible"

[untold ridge]

So what about the incoming recoil changes, any thoughts?

[grave stump]

i havent seen anything

personally

[untold ridge]

bruh

[grave stump]

i just play the game bruh

Did they touch ak4d?

if not idc

[untold ridge]

read that blog bro

wait it's not even on here wtf

[grave stump]

iam lazy

can i get a tldr

[untold ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield6/comments/1szyksi/battlefield_6_community_update_railway_to_golmud/

MOAR recoil

[grave stump]

on everything?

[untold ridge]

yep

[tidal current]

controller recoil is increased

[untold ridge]

that to

[grave stump]

idc about that

i never touched controller in my life

[untold ridge]

Also, which i hate .. the recoil RANDOMNESS will be increased by a LOT

[muted temple]

good

[tidal current]

this isnt in the blog

[muted temple]

less good

[tidal current]

but also grow up

[slender epoch]

i’ve blocked the controller blamers ain’t our fault

[grave stump]

i firmly believe

[muted temple]

never said it was?

[grave stump]

that swedish studio

will not nerf swedish gun

pls dice

leave ak4d alone

[tidal current]

Our focus here is on improving consistency and depth and making it more demanding to hit targets at longer ranges

we’re making adjustments to recoil behavior across inputs, including reducing how much recoil is automatically mitigated on controller, helping bring consistency across different control schemes. These changes aim to make weapon performance easier to understand, while rewarding positioning and accuracy across different combat ranges.

Additionally, we’re also exploring new ways to better communicate weapon behavior, including experimental features that help visualize dispersion while aiming down sight.

These are the big ones

[untold ridge]

Here is the blog

[muted temple]

idk why they would touch it

[untold ridge]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/news/battlefield-6-community-update-railway-to-golmud-ranked-br-and-more

[grave stump]

i made a build with extended barrel and extended suppressor

and its so long

it doesnt fit in menu screen

xD

[muted temple]

xD

[tidal current]

TLDR: Dice want to make it harder to beam people from long range like it is in other BF games

[grave stump]

https://imgur.com/q7eMuaj

Long boi

[muted temple]

as long as recoil reset time is buffed im fine with this

[grave stump]

iam fine if they make it so long range is tapfire/small burst mainly

on ak4d i can hold LMB up to even 100M

and somehow i still will get a kill

[muted temple]

tis how its been in previous battlefields

[grave stump]

what makes it even funnier

is with suppressor

the enemy is clueless where i shoot from

honestly, supressors are what i believe to be the best barrel attachment period

[tidal current]

it also would improve the pacing and encourage people to push more I suspect

[untold ridge]

Check here for the numbers about the recoil:
https://x.com/temporyal/status/2049851368182096005

[grave stump]

being almost fully invisible on minimap

is insanely good

[muted temple]

you give the average blueberry far to much credit

[tidal current]

this is a labs test

[untold ridge]

True

Might not be as intense in the end you are right @tidal current

[tidal current]

no thats just how players behave. Blueberries dont push cause if they peek out they get beamed by someone. The less that happens, the more blueberries are willing to move over open ground and push.

[slender epoch]

it would slow the games down for sure

[untold ridge]

Hope they balance this right. Otherwise better get those hipfire builds ready :d

[muted temple]

holop

[grave stump]

i hate it tbh, one reason i sometimes dislike operations in this game

[muted temple]

they buffn the kord xD

[tidal current]

To be honest they should just increase the spread on weapons.

[grave stump]

people just sit on spawn and peak shooting

nobody is rushing to cap objective

[muted temple]

kord headshot machine even more viable

[grave stump]

or some dum dum picks our only tank or IFV and goes full yolo

and dies in 3s

[tidal current]

yep. And its because its too easy to control space from a safe spot.

so, lower people's effective range

[grave stump]

give smokes to assault

now dice

right meow

[wheat wigeon]

I Yolo with the tank when the team doesn't push up

[muted temple]

[grave stump]

i hate you

[muted temple]

we all do

[wheat wigeon]

The team aint doing nothing might as well be the scapegoat

[untold ridge]

Enders is lolling about he's hearing 'roller death' 😄

Man the incoming tears .. yesssss 😄

[grave stump]

average tank user when i play attack
AP and multi purp
grenade launcher on top

spawns in

booost on A

dies in 10s

[muted temple]

roller death?

[grave stump]

"nice help team "

[wheat wigeon]

GL is bad

[daring girder]

i can dream about roller death

[untold ridge]

yeah no more -180% recoil ... No more TR-7's with literaly MP5 recoil

[daring girder]

just get rid of the 25% recoil

pls

[grave stump]

yeah waay too little

ammo

should be like 8-10 in the mag

then it would be okay

or much faster reload

[muted temple]

howabout we keep the spash damage nightmare to a minimum thank you

[grave stump]

my fault OG

that i want some item to not be

"meme/troll users only"

[muted temple]

its very effective on rush xD

[tidal current]

I expect my grenade launcher to launch grenades

not water balloons

[grave stump]

When my 250 30mm belt

[muted temple]

you say that

[grave stump]

can only fire 12 times before reloading

[muted temple]

till you go against it and hate life

[tidal current]

nah cause Im not a baby.
Its battlefield. You die to stupid sh*t all the time. Respawn and move on.

[grave stump]

bradley irl can unload all 250 rounds in one go no?

[muted temple]

does thow not remember the absurd splash damage of the beta?

[grave stump]

barrel heating up aside

there is no "reload"

on IFV

[peak bronze]

went from 750k to 40k players? at least its 40k players strong chat!

[muted temple]

i greatly enjoyed being 2 shot by an ifv shooting at a wall corner with me 8 feet away

[grave stump]

me when 30mm gun deals damage

[muted temple]

this aint arma

go play that for realism

[grave stump]

i mean IFV should be better

against players

than tank

i feel like it isnt

cuz tank HE is much better at dealing with infantry

[muted temple]

and c4 shouldnt launch vehicles 700 feet into the air. but hey this is battlefield

[tidal current]

"muh milsimmers"

[vestal canopy]

it's in the name, INFANTRY fighting vehicle

[steel zephyr]

We need to host a battlefield comeback tour to revive Battlefield to its former glory and make it great again

[grave stump]

i dont think this is what that stands for

[vestal canopy]

that is literally what IFV means

[grave stump]

i know

[tidal current]

what did you think it stood for?

[grave stump]

but i dont think it means "cuz its meant to fight infantry"

i think it means "vehicle that carries troops and can stand and fight"

stay*

[steel zephyr]

Make battlefield great again #MBGA

[muted temple]

tbf you are right on that part

[tall zinc]

no, its meant to fight infantry lol

[grave stump]

yeah no

[tidal current]

Its meant for direct fire support.
Thats the difference between an IFV and an APC.

[grave stump]

i mean the logic is

[steel zephyr]

#2026ComebackTour

[grave stump]

APC should deploy troops and peace out

IFV should deploy troops and stay and support them

[vestal canopy]

primarily IFV's fight infantry and lighter vehicles, its why they typically get destroyed by tanks

and of course they transport infantry

[grave stump]

IFV also have no armor

so

[tidal current]

"typically"
rip the t90

[tidal current]

wrong

[vestal canopy]

yeah that t90 fight was crazy man

[muted temple]

😂

not an effective use of ammo

but very funny

[grave stump]

How is it wrong?

Bradley has how much armor 30-40?

Russian IFV like BMP have 12mm angled

most IFV wont go past 30-50MM of armor thickness

which makes them unable to resist any kind of anti vehicle shells

Abrams can take RPG to the front and barely feel it

bradley cannot

[tidal current]

Vatnik in shambles

[grave stump]

at best bradley can shrug off

20-30mm non APDS shells

and only on the front

[muted temple]

🤣

[grave stump]

but i dont think anyone build IFV with armor in mind

[muted temple]

bUt Ma T14 tHo

[grave stump]

no reason to make IFV do the job of the tank

[grave stump]

i mean that t90 technically lost cuz it got disabled

not because it got penetrated

[muted temple]

well yeah. they decimated its sights and cameras

[grave stump]

yeah, cuz gunner was giga chad

on that bradley

thing is, one hit from that t90 and bradley would go kaboom

[muted temple]

tow missle

[tidal current]

I mean that tank could be good but they dont have the funding to make them on mass.

[grave stump]

Which version of tow tho?

[dire hearth]

does anyone know how can i type in looking for game section chat

[muted temple]

just about any of them lol

[grave stump]

yeah..no

the new variants? Sure

older tows? nup

[muted temple]

maybe not a gen 1? tbf i dont know enough about them to say yay or nay

[grave stump]

Well there are multiple variants of TOW

thing is, tow is still less effective

than gun

Tow speed is 270-300 ish m/s

[muted temple]

you say that....

[grave stump]

APFSDS is 1600m/s +

[muted temple]

tow is also wire guided

[grave stump]

how is that relevant?

its in the name

"tube launched Optically tracked Wire Guided"

TOW

[muted temple]

yeah. missle steered onto target. more accurate. bigger payload

[grave stump]

it doesnt use wire to be "more accurate"

it uses wires cuz wireless missiles can be jammed

[deep tangle]

What is up with with all the trashy people on the bf6 voice chat

[grave stump]

sometimes u see photo with like T80 having those Red glowing eyes

on the tank

thats the jammers

[delicate thorn]

1 hit stinger are fugging joke

what stupid imbecil was balancing vehicles

fire him NOW

[muted temple]

😂

[grave stump]

but yeah tow is still slow

[tidal current]

Quick reminder that real life is not warthunder. When you are sending explosives into giant metal vehicles in a real environment, sometimes shit happens that shouldnt on paper.

[grave stump]

is it more accurate than gun? eh

[grave stump]

I served in military in my country

was inside abrams, shot tow myself

its not "war thunder" knowledge

[primal lintel]

Is the challange with Recon gadgets Spot Assist bugged?

[grave stump]

Tows have one issue

[primal lintel]

I cant get any points

[grave stump]

is that they get super countered by APS

granted APS is not standard in tank warfare yet except on israeli tanks

but if one day it becomes standard, then TOW will be obsolete

[muted temple]

needs to become standard before aps is even an argument on effectiveness

[exotic hemlock]

Honestly, only issue i have with tow is losing track of the distance between me and rocket. Why i tend not to use them as much.

[tidal current]

and are bigger an heavy and thus you cant have that many of them.

[delicate thorn]

aps is cancer

[grave stump]

have that many of what?

tows?

[tidal current]

the missiles in your vehicle.

[grave stump]

i mean M3

carries 12 of them

its more than enough lol

[muted temple]

you shoot all 12 of them missles you was in a hell of a fight

[grave stump]

they are not THAT heavy

[tidal current]

really?

[grave stump]

they are like

aroung 20kg each

so around 45 pounds ish for american people

[tidal current]

Thank you for translating to my culture.
Honestly I thought they were bigger

[grave stump]

and thats whole Tube

that u put on the device and lock in palce

place

[exotic hemlock]

thats the missle itself, when in its launch container for transport its around 50 pounds

[grave stump]

The ones i used for firing were around 42-43 pounds.

we weighted them as a joke

[exotic hemlock]

sounds about right honestly

[grave stump]

the whole tube with missile wire etc

[exotic hemlock]

yeah

[grave stump]

dunno if the storage container is any diffrent. But then again iam not american so maybe americans store their tows diffrently

either way tow is getting old

and is getting replaced more and more

by stuff like Javelin

[tidal current]

can you stick javelins onto an ifv?