battlefield-6

[frosty pier]

It only slightly reduces recoil

And improved transition to ads

[sturdy spindle]

the jump from slim angled is massive

u need all the recoil control u can get for that gun

[sturdy spindle]

thats mandatory

[frosty pier]

I agree

But the recoil reduction is not worth it

[sturdy spindle]

the only 3 grips u should ever look at are slim handstop, slim angled, ribbed stubby

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

let me see ur aim

[amber belfry]

are we dissing on the canted stubby now

[frosty pier]

I suck at the game

That’s why I need better recoil reduction

[sturdy spindle]

6h64 will make u more worse

[frosty pier]

No it won’t

[sturdy spindle]

u dont have ADS speed and u have accuracy loss while moving

[winter carbon]

lol wtf is this patch
im so glad i stopped playing rofl

[cunning badge]

Does Midnight Thunder LMG ironsights not work for anyone else?

[sullen creek]

AAA BF6 Hardcore PS5 Community (18+)

FF ON | Ping OFF | Crosshair OFF
90% Movement | 60% Health

Tactical squad gameplay only.
No trolling. No griefing. No drama. No threats.
Play the objective.

EU evenings. Short comms. Multi-language squad play.

Build a real community together.
Today’s enemy may be tomorrow’s ally.

Join if you want serious hardcore gameplay on PS5.

[cunning badge]

The view goes inside the gun, not on top where the sights are

[fiery oxide]

Ye it

bugged

[devout horizon]

we used to have communities, but then they took away our dedicated servers and server browser

people used to have forums, just for their game servers

i was in several of them

its funny this discord server is like negative/anti community, its so huge and faceless with zero barrier to entry bc everyone already has a discord account, theres no personal cost or friction to join it so no one really cares, the epitome of the problem. What is the design philosophy here from the DICE or more likely EA, actively destroying social features and community tools over the years, is it really just to sell the next product, probably

[past jasper]

Tbf nobody is stopping you to still use forums, it's just we are living in a age of increasingly consolidated internet

[languid mural]

I think youre reading too much into it, basically any gaming community has a discord cuz its easy to set up

[past jasper]

Also

Nothing stopping you to have your own server discord

[crimson garden]

Penguin knows many in this corner of Discord that cares a lot about BF6! 😃 The complaints just happen to be the loudest friend

[balmy yew]

I had a dream last night the BF6 got shut down before May 30th. Might be telling me something.

[tired flower]

[past jasper]

Which is something that is a lot easier to setup and being a no cost entry compared to a TeamSpeak server

[cloud venture]

Just asking anyone know if theres a BF6 thing on tonight?

[past jasper]

The 20 cost vertical is usable as well

[sturdy spindle]

[past jasper]

As it's just slim stubby without ads buff

[supple plume]

I find the grips don't do a whole lot 🤷‍♀️

[sturdy spindle]

what that aim looking like

[cursive temple]

What you mean?

[fiery oxide]

Probably mad about the defib nerf

[fervent kraken]

battlefield 6 rules and people who complain about it are just bad at the game

[tired flower]

[charred rose]

mortarfield

[real zenith]

The level of stupidity on this morning is amazing!😂

[real zenith]

What rules?

[modest dome]

from apollo 17 to artemis 2

[languid mural]

that was nice

I even dropped a decent game

[tribal sleet]

Same word different meaning

[languid mural]

also since defib nerf is public knowledge, I gotta play around with it to test it out

I still think that simply needing the defib to charge to full to rez would be the solution but we will see how this is performing

[tribal sleet]

It hasn’t changed at all for me I can still go on infinitely

[velvet kayak]

Ggs @languid mural & @amber belfry

[charred rose]

Ppl hated being half rez'd so much it kinda balanced itself out you cant just rush around all the time cuz you'll seal your teammates fate for not waiting

[languid mural]

uh, you know the patch still isnt live

and if youre talking about going infinitely on labs, then congrats, you broke NDA

[languid mural]

people getting half-rez'd and dying and also someone running and rezzing 3 ppl in your face would both be solved by having the defib be full charge, but as I said, its about the numbers, I dont know how much it actually matters just looking at the text

[tribal sleet]

Suurrreee._.

[charred rose]

Make the half rez 2 tap like how you have to use it to kill people

Perfect balance

[languid mural]

that would be inconsistent as hell and no fun

[median verge]

I wonder what it would take for dice to actually start listening to there fan base

Mass steam review bomb?

[charred rose]

They did listen when they cooked movement and they reverted it cuz the fans were wrong

[amber belfry]

did you not see the buff? it will be able to 1 tap next patch

if fully charged ofc

[charred rose]

I mean like as of rn i know it's getting changed

[amber belfry]

W change

[charred rose]

Real

[languid mural]

I wish the adren pen got any buffs though

[fathom turtle]

Does anyone know how to get a dog tags for participating in a tournament ? (5 bronze dog tags)

[charred rose]

Medic still doesn't pick you up and you have to lay there and listen to them use all their charges on enemies

[median verge]

Wish we got bigger maps. And less bot lobbies. Or a server browser

[charred rose]

-# beeeeeeeep

[languid mural]

uhh, not sure what you are talking about but there are tournaments that are officially listed in game on repeat.gg

[sturdy spindle]

when they nerfing movement and assault class

[languid mural]

the moment you get hands

[charred rose]

Stop he's already dead what else can you take from assault

[median verge]

When they making it so aa can't sit in base all game

[subtle sluice]

Tomorrow

[languid mural]

I mean tbh if theyre fearful of whatever making assault too strong (lol) then pls just get rid of the filters on the adrenaline, on things like empire state B point u legit cant see anything cuz its too dark with it

[charred rose]

Slamming the stim just to see the funny colors

[frosty pier]

Every time I turn crossplay on I still get put in Xbox only servers

It’s so annoying

Same problem anyone?

[modest jackal]

Aye. Adding Anti-Supression and Auto-Triggered Regeneration alone would make it viable.

[languid mural]

tbh anti suppression would work basically the same as the auto-triggered regeneration but without the side effect of the other party being "hmmm I am hitting the guy and he started healing immediately"
I remember that being a bit annoying in 2042

and same reason why support is OP lol

[devout horizon]

at least you can turn it off and on, no choice on pc

[boreal geode]

what about some type of damage reduction instead of regeneration

[devout horizon]

dr isnt good, it messed with peoples muscle memory

[languid mural]

would make it very inconsistent on the enemy side, even more so with the limb multipliers they plan on adding

[devout horizon]

theres a reason why the defensive field upgrade didnt come back after bf4

at least i dont think it did

[boreal geode]

hear me out, i wasnt finished

[languid mural]

aight

[boreal geode]

so torso and limb hits would be reduced damage, while neck and headshots would be doubled in damage due to increased blood flowing. I'd say 1.75-2x multipliers there

[devout horizon]

if the end result changes ttk at all then its not good

the headshot ammo is about as far as u can push it

[boreal geode]

adrenaline is a powerful thing, and really the only thing that would be able to truly stop someone with that much adrenaline coursing through them is a shot to the head

[devout horizon]

gameplay is more important than what adrenaline does to you irl

the game always comes first

[boreal geode]

i get that, but its functionally useless rn

[languid mural]

and its also because the headshot ammo makes only one breakpoint stand out, which is a 2 btk RPKM if Im not mistaken, and RPKM is not that good of a gun otherwise (the 9.5 damage model) so yeah

[languid mural]

but where muh realism if Im not blind after using the class gadget lule

[boreal geode]

assault is meant to be aggressive, my idea makes it able to push up while having a downside

[languid mural]

yeah thats why no suppression would be nice

[devout horizon]

cant change ttk like that with a gadget

no supression, flash/stun immunity, less fire/explosive damage maybe

faster reloads

[languid mural]

start regen could be cool but with stuff like frontliner it could get degenerate

[devout horizon]

actually faster reload would be really nice as a gadget

[boreal geode]

preaching to the choir here man. the g3 and tr7 with hp are menaces to society

[languid mural]

faster reloads could be cool

[boreal geode]

assault already has a perk that does that

[charred rose]

When are we getting wall piercing rounds

[languid mural]

faster reloads would be cool, an actually unique thing, and also redsec wouldnt be missing out on much

[boreal geode]

never. hell to the no

[charred rose]

Deployable cover F tier frame 1

[boreal geode]

until they add a barrett m82 i doubt it'll ever happen

[boreal geode]

ok thats... fair. lead with that next time

[languid mural]

the funny part is, stun/flash resistance is already there, but both of these effects are USELESS so it does not matter

[boreal geode]

personally, i use the grenade trophy system, but im usually in casual or tdm because i could not be bothered running any other game mode. i play games to have fun and casual breakthrough is honestly fun

[charred rose]

Lets go casual breakthrough enjoyer

[dire viper]

Before the hotfix and an anticheat hotfix before thar the nightfall update was very unstable for some people. A lot of crashes to desktop and some pc hard crashes.

Following observations here and on the forums, these problems are not fully fixed in the current build and still occasionally happen. That's why I'm surprised to see no stability improvements mentioned

Aside of that the current build has serious graphics glitch issues in dark areas, sometimes. They are also not mentioned. However, maybe both points were forgotten for the notes since fixes are boring.

[boreal geode]

my homies and i have a blast when we're not getting curb stomped by a raging cheater who got mad he ran into 3 of my claymores within the span of a minute lmao

[devout horizon]

did bf4 start out with 3/4 shot kill averages and then shifted to 4/5 shot kill averages? its 4/5 shot kill weapons now, just cant remember if it started like that

[charred rose]

Last time I played it nobody mortared at all compared to regular breakthrough which is mortars constantly to the last possible second. I am tempted to return to the bot fields.

[tired flower]

[devout horizon]

im not sure why dice decided to have 3/4 shot kill guns when they never seem to get netcode right and it just makes it worse

[languid mural]

and tbh I dont ever see them making stun/flash more powerful, no one enjoys using the breaching projectile, and the nades are both on the bottom 2 class in popularity, only boosted by the fact its the first class so all the newbies are on it

[languid mural]

it didnt, I remember cuz I had a talk with a guy here in which we discovered we were both right lule

[charred rose]

You could shoot through it back and surprise them so it's still got a use

[boreal geode]

we get some mortaring here and there but its not as bad as reg lobbies

[languid mural]

it started around some obscene values like we currently have

[boreal geode]

bots actually play like humans and humans play like bots. its great

[devout horizon]

ok yeah they did change the ttk, it was after dice la started the CTE, they went from a 3/4 shot kill model to a 4/5 shot kill model

why are we back to 3/4 shot kill guns now when it never worked properly

[languid mural]

but yeah theyre planning on adding limb multiplier here so it might still be on the menu

[boreal geode]

because the tr-7 exists for cqc and the g3 with hp exists to dominate in mid to long range

[languid mural]

you dont understand how fun it is to get deleted from existence before you can physically react to it

[dire viper]

I assume that they wanted a snappier ttk for this game to underline that it's "authentic" and "gritty"

[charred rose]

Finally all my random spraying with hipfire smgs will be rewarded and unreasonably strong like the range they already have

[devout horizon]

that doesnt matter about what i said, they would change the ttk for nearly every weapon to be 1 bullet more across the board

[boreal geode]

me laughing as i laser a sniper from 150m while only doing 12 dmg per hit

[devout horizon]

which is funny bc bf4 is still better in that regard and remains the best modern title with its longer ttk and way less accurate weapons

[tender lance]

Hey everyone wassup

[languid mural]

I wouldnt mind my m4a1 doing 5 btk since it already does that past 10 meters

[boreal geode]

seriously tho john, run the p90. its actually growing on me and im kinda enjoyin it

[tired flower]

[devout horizon]

i dont know if it was 1 extra shot at every range or just at max damage range

[dire viper]

Longer ttk would probably be good for the game, true.

I don't love bf4 as much though. I think bf3 was more enjoyable

[boreal geode]

bf1 was peak

[languid mural]

I never played bf4 because I heard it was bad at launch and never touched the game after that

[devout horizon]

its so hard to play bf3 after 4, the amount of weapon spread and lmgs having increased spread while moving, it feels quite different

[dire viper]

Yeah I also liked bf1 more, despite too high bullet spread on some.weapons 😄

[daring girder]

Bf4 launch was borderline unplayable

[devout horizon]

if u ever see it on sale for a few € grab it, still active servers every night

bf4 is THE best modern bf title

[languid mural]

I might, but you know, despite all the flaws I still enjoy bf6

[devout horizon]

2042 was a horrible spin off and bf6 only gets a free pass bc 2042 was so bad

[daring girder]

They rushed the hell out of it for consoles

[dire viper]

I think it was unplayable but we gaslighted ourselves that it was not sooo bad 😄

[boreal geode]

bf1 was, and still is, ahead of its time tho. u gotta give credit where its due

[devout horizon]

M O D E R N title

[languid mural]

to be honest, bf6 is also rushed since they were supposed to have 1 more year and it was moved cuz GTA6 release moved

[boreal geode]

bf1 was 2016. thats pretty modern to me lmao

[languid mural]

and the netcode for pc vs console IS objectively bad for this fast ttk

[devout horizon]

bf1 is ww1, thats what i mean by modern

[daring girder]

BF4 mogs bf1

[dire viper]

All in all, each bf was flawed. Taking that into consideration Bf6 is pretty good compared to the history of the series.

[languid mural]

like legit almost every time I see a sketchy kill, I check the platform and it is console

[devout horizon]

bf1 is its own thing, apples to oranges

[daring girder]

Console with a telescope kord

[boreal geode]

i hate seeing the damage indicators say i hit a dude for 100 damage and yet he still has like 3 hp left and peeks the same corner. its beyond annoying

[languid mural]

bro not even that, somehow my M4A1 gets out-traded by some shitter gun and I hit the guy for 50 and I wonder what went wrong
till I see that console gamepad icon

[dire viper]

Yeah. The technical side of bf6 is a bit.. Let's say card house like.

[boreal geode]

like dawg. you had 3 hollow point 7.62×51mm rounds put into your head. just die already

[languid mural]

I also have a clip of me magdumping my pistol into someone elses back and hitting for a grand total of 0 dmg, but thats also redsec having its own issues

[dire viper]

If has great fps but is unstable and the netcode is... questionable 😄

[languid mural]

it looks so funny too cuz its the p18 with the well, 18 ammo

legit that gif from cyberpunk edgerunners with shooting the cop but the guy gets hit for 0 dmg

[boreal geode]

me getting slapped by a kts head on when im using a vector and only 3 of of the 10 bullets that leave my gun actually register on target and the rest just dont.

peak battlefield experience

[languid mural]

also since this patch they allowed AR's to actually kill after death and Ive been getting traded a lot

such is life

or trading rather*

[dire viper]

Battlefield giveth, battlefield taketh

[boreal geode]

fr

[languid mural]

well I suppose netcode is a pretty big and complicated issue, so I hope they do simpler things like disabling bots in real matchmaking

[dire viper]

Oh I hate bots

[boreal geode]

or just invest in better netcoding software

if thats even a thing

[languid mural]

like bro wdym I just ran a jeep into 6 at spawn and 4 of them were bots
dopamine instantly gone, replaced with cortisol spike

[dire viper]

They have to improve their own networking code, which is probably hell. I doubt that's third party tech

[dire viper]

Yeah. It feels so wrong to play against bots in a pvp game. (Even if they were better powered by some RL agents, I would wanto to play against humans!)

I would love to have bots off as a default..

[prime finch]

They want you to get you in a game as soon as possible before you start questioning why you're even playing this game

[languid mural]

thing is, if Im already queueing a game, unless Im waiting 5+ mins Im not gonna leave

[dire viper]

That's psychologically clever but as soon as I am realizing that I am only shooting cardboard standups... Then I'm like. Maaaan whyyy.

[languid mural]

and it seems that matchmaking from previous game to next game is not that bad, its just the initial one

[dire viper]

Compared to league the queue times are sooo short 😄

[languid mural]

yeah its like, I throw down c4 from 70 meters up into a tank, I actually explode it, then I see the scoreboard to see it was 3 bots and then a real player just kills me when I stand there, deprived of my fun

[dire viper]

Yeah, that's the worst!

[languid mural]

or I got one today where I ran a jeep into enemy spawn, killing like 6 people, but looking back on it it was 4 bots and it diminishes the experience so much

[dire viper]

I mean keep the bots for casual matches. Some people enjoy the experience, that is totally cool!

[languid mural]

true true, I dont have anything against people queueing with bots, its their time, their fun, but its not fun for me when Im expecting to play vs real players

[dire viper]

However, not having them in core matches would be so much better. I'd rather play in half full servers than with bots

[prime finch]

I think there's a surprisingly large group of players who enjoy the bot modes in multiplayer. Like if they make any changes you get tons of people complaining on reddit that they don't want to play against 'sweats'

[dire viper]

Sadly very possible. I'd love dice to find a way to do it anyway. Maybe by making it an opt in button in the queue .. I'm willing to wait longer for non bot servers

[fiery oxide]

If they fix whatever they broke with the matchmaking you won't get bots

[languid mural]

thats also true

[dire viper]

Also cool 😄

Just make them go awaaay

[amber belfry]

i love how it fills a server with bots and within 2 minutes all bots are replaced with humans. thanks matchmaking

[languid mural]

about this, its that some people think they are entitled to fun (which is fair), but derive the fun from winning, and not from playing the game itself, which just makes them complain when they are NOT winning, so getting rid of bots would make that part impossible because "sweats"

[amber belfry]

also a loud minority lol. 200 complain posts a day vs 50k ppl on just steam alone

[languid mural]

like theres a casual mode right there, if you think youre getting "destroyed by sweaty codslop players" and not switching its 💀

[lone goblet]

Have not olayed in months. Getting back into it playing as sniper recon. Anyone down? Dm me

[languid mural]

true, although the devs tend to listen to them on reddit, at least at launch

I mean if youre looking for squadmates #lfg-playstation

[heady gale]

@subtle sluice is a sniper recon too if you wanna message him

[amber belfry]

[languid mural]

[dire viper]

Reddit should probably be ignored anyway hides

[languid mural]

tbh almost all social media should be ignored

[amber belfry]

okbuddyptfo is peak

and instagram has awesome clips sometimes

[languid mural]

the only thing ever that came out positively from interacting in social media are actual irl events and some on-site content creator stuff

[amber belfry]

tbf ive ment ppl on social media i still speak to 10 years later so eh

[languid mural]

getting a preview of new things discussed by your fav content creator is a hell yeah

[dire viper]

They bring some positive things true

[languid mural]

I've seen what people on reddit are talking about, but then you take into account what people here are talking about to actual staff when the update channel freshly opened and its not much better

[heady gale]

Mortars..

[languid mural]

tbf arent devs on FNB sometimes? oughta join sometime and maybe mention a word or two about mortars or adren pen hahahh

[amber belfry]

just realized. fast mags give a sprint recovery debuff. mag catch does not

[languid mural]

yes, thats also why I became a degenerate with 20 normal mag on M4A1

83 ms sprint recovery, 133 ms ads time, 0.91 ads move speed

[amber belfry]

[dire viper]

Yeah. True. Sometimes some channels here are also not comfy

[amber belfry]

20 bullet vcr

[carmine leaf]

m433 has so many skins holy.

[languid mural]

I did insult someone for coming in here just talking about "same 5 people complaining"

if bro isnt even talking about the game gloves are off

cuz I like to discuss/argue even if I think the opposing side is doing it in bad faith, but that? oh hell naw

[amber belfry]

first ar so yeah, its prob one of the most used guns atm

[languid mural]

oh yeah I got a bit of time on the m433 cuz it was in beta

[heady gale]

It was a pretty fun gun to get to 50

[amber belfry]

im at a point i only have dookie guns left. like the worst

[heady gale]

I got a couple DMRs left, all shotguns, a couple pistols and some fun ish guns I’ve saved so I can enjoy the final stretch

[amber belfry]

i have some lmgs left, the auto shotgun and the l85/sor. the kord is on lvl 30 and the nvo on 40

[heady gale]

M417
CZ3A1
M121 A2
M39 EMR
SVK
10 levels left on the SVDM
M87A1
M1014
18.5KS
DB-12
M44
Skorpion

[languid mural]

at least half the shotguns wont be painful

[heady gale]

And they’re tweaking XP again so gonna be even easier

[languid mural]

I mean most of these guns arent bad

[slender epoch]

won’t even need to get kills in order to level them up after next patch

[spare dome]

yeah lmfao

game is so sad

[languid mural]

kinda crazy

[heady gale]

I also have 25 hours worth of double XP tokens

I’m chilling

Curious to see what level I’ll finish on, probably 350 ish

[fiery oxide]

I don't think the time to xp ratio will be noticeable

[amber belfry]

im waiting on my last 2 pistols till there is a double xp event tbh

[spare dome]

it's not practical but it's depressing that it's even an option

[languid mural]

which are they?

[heady gale]

Yeah I’m not actively doing pistols

[amber belfry]

and then its vehicles

[amber belfry]

the first one and the glock

[fluid plover]

👋🤓

[heady gale]

Good luck

[fiery oxide]

I got the glock and the cz left

[languid mural]

Im always playing with the first one

its nice

[amber belfry]

its 150 kills on double xp

[fiery oxide]

both are at 40+

so i could probably finish them both today if i feel like it

[amber belfry]

i just cba

and i cant aim for shit on the mouse im using rn

[heady gale]

Hollow points on the SVD is so fun

[amber belfry]

yes

m39 to

[heady gale]

That’s my next gun

[amber belfry]

will be fun when they change the price

i liked the svdm more but the m39 is very solid

[modest jackal]

I'm confident it'll just be a 5 Point Reduction to both.

[heady gale]

Better than nothing

[amber belfry]

yes

15 for hp 25 for synth

[modest jackal]

Because they'll always round up to the nearest 0 and 5; and 10 Point Reduction would be insane.

[amber belfry]

from what i saw on leaked labs gameplay it was this

[fiery oxide]

Hollow at 10 would be too op

[amber belfry]

eh

depends on the gun

[fiery oxide]

Almost no point in using any other ammo

[modest jackal]

20 Points Synthetic would be nasty on, say, the QBZ-192.

[amber belfry]

frangible is a br thing so eh.

i still think they should have just buffed the hs multiplier not change cost

[modest jackal]

Me too.

I think 2 Headshots mixed with Bodyshots would be a good average.

[amber belfry]

bo6 did this to. nerf hs into the ground to even the playing fields

[modest jackal]

Also, Neck Shots should always match Headshot Damage, it's so stupid and makes no sense.

[spare dome]

sorry, the 0.95x limb multiplier needs to stay on the test server for at least 3 months

for uhhhhhhhhh reasons

[modest jackal]

IDK, Limb Multipliers should honestly stay on SRs only.

[languid mural]

on what

[modest jackal]

Sniper Rifles.

[spare dome]

it's a quick fix to the flattened headshot problem without rebalancing every gun

[languid mural]

oh

[fiery oxide]

Another goofball who fell for it

[heady gale]

It’ll never not be funny

[languid mural]

no previous messages, I wonder if its a scam run in the server or if the link is compromised

[cedar briar]

it will be in the discord server

there is another kind that just locks you in a server.. impossible to leave and spreads it to other users like that one

[languid mural]

people joining gg/cutegirls and clicking into anything on it

honestly they deserve it

[heady gale]

Real

[devout horizon]

internet safety needs to be a mandatory subject in education

dont click unknown links, dont share ANY personal info, yet here we are

[spare dome]

the first rule of internet safety is to have fun

[crimson garden]

Penguin big fan of nice safety 🛡️ Stick only to official download sources = cool! 😎

[cedar briar]

stick to trusted websites

[devout horizon]

those arent inherently safe either

cpuz and hwinfo, 2 very useful programs, the official site was compromised with a redirect attack recently

someone also masquerading as official 7zip site too

trust nothing and no one

[fiery oxide]

lossless scaling also has a scam site that's not official

[amber belfry]

4th time btw

[devout horizon]

ugh really?

[languid mural]

thats why I do everything the old fashioned way, which is I dont

[amber belfry]

this isnt even a scam website, someone hijacked the real ones

[amber belfry]

idk why it happens so much with them

[devout horizon]

complacency maybe, they make computer software and think they know better

[fiery oxide]

I mean they are pretty common programs to dl

and give deep access to your pc

makes sense to compromise them

[devout horizon]

yeah so they should be taking their cybersecurity more seriously

[spare dome]

i wish you the best of luck in mitigating state-sponsored supply chain attacks

[devout horizon]

one thing that kills me is games being compromised, like Duet Night Abyss, the anime warframe clone, an updated downloaded a trojan? or an RCE onto peoples machines

[turbid path]

The first rule of the internet is all blue hyperlinks must be turned purple.

[devout horizon]

never ever playing that game again

[amber belfry]

besides cpuz theres like 50 programs that do what hwmonitor does. its just they keep being hit

[amber belfry]

arc raiders saving your discord token was pretty funny.

[charred rose]

Spyware raiders

[devout horizon]

was that a problem with arc raiders or some discord api

[fiery oxide]

Crazy to me that the fans just swept that under the rug for Embark

[cedar briar]

my work does a check every 3 months.. some numpty clicked the link, so a company wide message had to go out about ebing careful on waht you click on

[devout horizon]

id heard about it but didnt look into it as i stopped playing arc for a while

[amber belfry]

it was arc raiders fault

and you can do ALOT with a discord token. basically bye bye account

[charred rose]

Never buying that game now I needa look at the studio name to make sure I avoid them like ubisoft

[cedar briar]

that was discords fault for allowing tokens that gave full access

[devout horizon]

thats what i was thinking, it wasnt soley embark but also still not great

[charred rose]

I mean ppl will use any site to do illegal stuff so they kinda have to have a way in to check your account

[devout horizon]

embark didnt write the script that pulled users info

[amber belfry]

but they did implement it

[devout horizon]

yes

[charred rose]

Washed

[amber belfry]

ex dice devs washed

[charred rose]

Hackers get in and bang there goes your whole discord compromised and everything in it

Shoulda stayed ex

Forever

From all games

[amber belfry]

just do go online

use pidgeons

[heady gale]

#bringbackpidgeons

[charred rose]

🐔

[devout horizon]

i feel bad for pidgeons, we domesticated them then just kicked them out of the house after we found copper wire and rubber did the same thing with less poo everywhere

[west sentinel]

heyy does anybody know how the CRAM will be changed in the upcoming update?

[amber belfry]

will kill better

[west sentinel]

more damage? more accurate?

[amber belfry]

it will kill

but somehow better

i dont think they disclosed how but my guess is just its more aware

[amber belfry]

interesting name

[languid mural]

wdym it has to be awesome for enemy team when I just steal their heli and get it out of spawn with 0 damage cuz the CRAM was snoozing

[amber belfry]

means they arent spotted

cram works of spotting

[west sentinel]

as long as they dont make it shoot below the horizon then stealing helis will still be ez

[devout sedge]

Just crossed the 700hr mark phew

[amber belfry]

w

[ivory haven]

Nice

[amber belfry]

the sor has to be the worst ar

[amber belfry]

if we get a ak50 i want the 50bmg 1911

[cunning wedge]

it just shoots too slow for what it is

It's still usable

it's just slow

[amber belfry]

just dont go within 15m of someone

or fight someone with a smg

or any other ar that kills slightly quicker at range

i did better with the db12

[heady gale]

.

[fiery oxide]

Use it as dmr and you'll probably do better

[amber belfry]

maybe

[gloomy oracle]

just use the most broken guns m443, SG553, DRS, or sniper rifles. +new smg and all is good

[amber belfry]

the dsr isnt really broken

[gloomy oracle]

also be recon and just put claymores everywhere

[amber belfry]

i prefer sniping with a rpg

[cunning wedge]

ESR??

[gloomy oracle]

its broken cause its bloom, recoil, witht he lmg dropoff is almost 0. so the most consistent gun. is why almost all the world records are with DRS

[cunning wedge]

ah the DRS

the m27

hollup isn't the M27 a military designation why did they change its name

[gloomy oracle]

yea DRS sorry typed bad yoh

[slender epoch]

game needs more recoil

[cunning wedge]

I was about to say did they add the DSR-1 sniper rifle

[ivory haven]

lol

[chilly spire]

They need to rethink the gameplay it’s brain dead atm

[gloomy oracle]

huh.

[slender epoch]

oh yea def agree there’s a myriad of problems

[spare dome]

step 1 is reverting every change in the season 2 patch

step 2 is 0.95x arm/leg multi (quick fix for flattened headshot multi)

step 3 is blanket spread increase

[slender epoch]

mortar mains would hate this 😂

[spare dome]

good

honestly just take the game back to launch day state and start over

[slender epoch]

yes i would love for headshots to matter again and not be forced to use synth ammo that comes later in progression

[fiery oxide]

Making the ttk faster is not a good idea

[cedar briar]

BF needs an eye test on first load

[slender epoch]

it wouldn’t be if spread was increased i think there’s a good balance

[cedar briar]

there is no way someone in a tank cannot see an enemy tank sitting next to them

[spare dome]

the whole game is an eye exam, have you tried looking for a claymore?

[slender epoch]

bringing down the 33 damage guns and bumping the pea shooters wouldn’t hurt either

[amber belfry]

i have clips of claymores being outright invisible so no i dont look for them

[fiery oxide]

The blueberries don't know about 3rd person view

[tired flower]

Isn't it 3rd person by default?

[slender epoch]

they also don’t know that other tank weapons exist besides the grenade launcher

[fiery oxide]

I think you can force it to 1st person

default

[spare dome]

born to shoot at screen center, forced to have crosshair projection on

[amber belfry]

turn it off

[languid mural]

which one

[nocturne pebble]

only 1 scar AR

the 300 is a carbine

[languid mural]

then Id have to disagree

[nocturne pebble]

idk ab worst but definitely bottom 2

only contender is the L85

[languid mural]

I feel like L85, B36 and NVO (only saved by the 3btk) are nothingburgers

[nocturne pebble]

G36 is one of the best guns in the game imo

[heady gale]

L85 was really fun for me

[nocturne pebble]

Galil was the best in the beta but the nerfs made it like B tier

[languid mural]

its average, its better than most carbines but that because theyre also just whatever

[tropic glade]

It's amazing how people will have polar opposite opinions about the same guns. A lot of people called NVO the best AR at some point

[nocturne pebble]

crazy take carbines have some of the best weapons in the game

[languid mural]

carbines best guns is just M4A1 and SG553

[nocturne pebble]

it was S tier in beta but full release version feels like a water down 553

[languid mural]

which is true, these are absolute monsters

[nocturne pebble]

the 417, M7 and QBZ are all at least A

[languid mural]

the thing is, every gun except like DBZ is good and functionable, so when I call anything mid it doesnt matter much

because they all perform

[abstract nexus]

Whats dbz

[gloomy oracle]

i mean on relase with NVO i got 155 kill game with it. it was still really good

[past jasper]

ah yes make the game more skilles

[languid mural]

the double pump shotgun

[slender epoch]

dbz mentioned

[languid mural]

wait no z

Im stupid

db-12

[nocturne pebble]

im almost finished with the other shotguns

not looking forward to that one

[abstract nexus]

Oh

[languid mural]

its the worst gun in the game and the only outlier as a bad gun

[abstract nexus]

Yeah agree dbz sucks lol

[gloomy oracle]

m433 is just goated now though with recoil and spread changes

sg553 is still the most broken gun, and m4 is fun as hell

[nocturne pebble]

i love the 433 but only built more like an smg

[languid mural]

TR7 is more broken than SG553

[nocturne pebble]

insane recoil + 20 rd mags makes it a pretty even tradeoff

[languid mural]

the recoil is only bad because other guns have it nonexistent basically, but its still very manage-able

[gloomy oracle]

sg553 is just easier to use you can get away with no grips and shit

[modest jackal]

I swear, the TR-7 is the most divisive Weapon in the Game.

[velvet kayak]

Must be why I use the SG

[modest jackal]

IDK, M433 beats it.

[nocturne pebble]

no grip 553 is crazy

[languid mural]

everyone agrees its good so I wouldnt say divisive, its just that whether you think recoil is an issue or no

because 3btk up to 20 meters is just crazy

[abstract nexus]

Nah the horizontal recoil and the spread are whack af

Its not even that other guns have negative recoil this gun just has recoil from r6s

[modest jackal]

I think users forgot the its S2 Stealth Nerf.

[abstract nexus]

Genuinely the one gun id unironically try to reduce recoil on instead of just slap on silly stuff and call it a day

[languid mural]

yeah but with how many bullets you need to hit the recoil still doesnt matter, but to be fair I am using the ribbed stubby

[nocturne pebble]

I have to run the classic vert on the Tavor for it to feel manageable past short range

[languid mural]

but yeah its hard to call any gun bad in this game because the only one that underperforms is the DB shotgun

[nocturne pebble]

lotta the dmrs are ass too

[modest jackal]

Eh, only the GRT-CPS is weak.

[languid mural]

Ive heard that theres an attachment that reduces visual recoil coming

if that is true and up for grabs on DMR its just heaven

[abstract nexus]

Dmrs are ass cause smgs get to play as automatic dmrs

[nocturne pebble]

LMR might be worst gun in the game

[past jasper]

lmao no

[past jasper]

have you tried the s2 dmr

[languid mural]

cuz the 4 hit DMRs dont have any actual recoil but it jumps like hell on your screen and its annoying

[nocturne pebble]

not yet

[past jasper]

also LMR is a fine gun

[tropic glade]

SMGs don't get the 6x thermal

[slender epoch]

that would be the p320

[past jasper]

6x thermal is irrelvant on all dmr that isnt svk imo

[tropic glade]

6x thermal on a SVDM is so mint

[languid mural]

and also its the fact that DMRs are just for mid-range against ARs and not against any long-range, because even a KTS will kill you if you try using the 4btk dmrs

[nocturne pebble]

its a 4 hit kill with 10 round mags by default that reload slow ash

[past jasper]

id rather put a normal scope on it

[abstract nexus]

If we get more recoil and spread on automatics, dmrs wouldnt get clapped

[slender epoch]

5 7 is also ahh

[past jasper]

#screenshots-and-clips message

[languid mural]

most of the sidearms dont function as their own weapon, besides the revolvers, and the 5.7 functions fine as a sidearm so its whatever

[nocturne pebble]

ive finished all the pistol attachments except the m44 and yeah its def the worst by far

[modest jackal]

By default, yeah, it's rough. But Headshots and Attachments help it (Especially with the incoming HP/ST Cost Reductions).

[nocturne pebble]

1911 with the big mag is nice asf too

[modest jackal]

A shame it costs 40 Points.

I think.

[fiery oxide]

Glock is easily the worst pistol

[nocturne pebble]

1911 11rd mag is only 25

[slender epoch]

until they put switch on it

[spare dome]

burst your gun, stop holding down rb or whatever

[past jasper]

imo the skorpion and m44 are the best pistols

[slender epoch]

dice pls 🫴

[past jasper]

again, spread literally just lowers skill

[modest jackal]

M357 Trait? I guess the Range isn't enough.

[spare dome]

it would still be easier than previous games because there's no spread decrease delay

[next ruin]

Top tier tip right here.

[nocturne pebble]

skorpion is ahh until it can run a big mag plus a sight

[past jasper]

cant 1tap

and 2 shot range is relatively short

[nocturne pebble]

i havent used the 44 but the 357 is insane

[languid mural]

trait goes crazy just for the fact its not as punishing as m44

[fiery oxide]

357 has insane hipfire

and fire rate makes it even better

[modest jackal]

It's the fastest killing Sidearm within' 9m too.

[past jasper]

1tap though

[tropic glade]

What of it

[modest jackal]

Yeah, M44 with HP is hard to argue against.

[past jasper]

additionally since m44 damage floors at 33, you can just 2 head people at long ranges

[modest jackal]

It's like a Mini-SVK...kind of.

[gloomy oracle]

i level the m357 to level 30 and called it good and went back to m44 cause 1 tap and range

[amber belfry]

the m44 is nice. not that special

[slender epoch]

better hit your shots lol

[languid mural]

its not the 2042 deagle

[past jasper]

not the 2042 m44 either

[languid mural]

I have played exclusively the deagle as sidearm, so I wouldnt know

[amber belfry]

m357 is a better pistol tbh. but man those 1 taps

[modest jackal]

I wonder how BF6 would balance the RSH-12 if it was theoretically added?

[amber belfry]

i want the p50

even 2042 had it

[past jasper]

probably balance it like 2042 m44

or just not add it

[languid mural]

if I had them port one thing from 2042 it would be throwing knives

[slender epoch]

is that requiem lmao

[past jasper]

you mean to just buff throwing knives

[nocturne pebble]

recon has throwing knives

[languid mural]

idk why they decided that in a game full of sub 200ms deaths, the throwing knives body shot oneshotting is too much

[amber belfry]

give me the he crossbow dice and my soul is yours

[languid mural]

yes

[fiery oxide]

Why a crossbow

[amber belfry]

cuz its funny

[languid mural]

theres not enough fun things to do in this game smh

[fiery oxide]

Add a old timey bow instead

[modest jackal]

True, its Bullets are 12.7mm × 55mm.

[amber belfry]

you hit them for 90 and get to stare them in the eyes as they explode half a second later. it was peak

[languid mural]

I would want a bow so hard

[lusty cliff]

Hi!

[past jasper]

hopefully s3 mid season

[languid mural]

who cares about special animations, gimme a bow for goodness sake

[past jasper]

or hidden weapon

[nocturne pebble]

lowk wanna see a riot shield for support class

[languid mural]

yep, cant wait for it

[amber belfry]

im calling it now, just like bf5 they are gonna mess about with the ttk

[past jasper]

hell nah

[languid mural]

it would be so funny but some meal team six on reddit guys would protest and it'd be zzzz

[slender epoch]

recurve bow and someone make a castle map

[fiery oxide]

Limb damage is on the horizon

[languid mural]

bro imagine a season where they buff throwing knives, add a bow and a shield

[amber belfry]

meme update

[slender epoch]

f it add a trebuchet

[languid mural]

not even a meme I need this

[fiery oxide]

Shield can stay gone

[languid mural]

update: mortar now shoots itself

[amber belfry]

give me a meme gun dice i beg

[fiery oxide]

It was annoying enough in 2042 and hardline

[languid mural]

but why

[past jasper]

give me bow i beg

give me any skilless one shot weapon i beg

[languid mural]

wdym annoying, you can frag it or shoot it through with some heavy pen weapon

[past jasper]

its totally not because my inability to control recoil and rely on a crutch weapojn

[slender epoch]

dozer really did yall dirty huh 😂

[amber belfry]

bf4 gas bow plz

[nocturne pebble]

if they do change ttk it better be slower, ts is already a lil too fast

[fiery oxide]

Yeah dice is very good at not learning from mistakes

[modest jackal]

People complaining about Riot Shields have serious Skill Issue.

[amber belfry]

bf5 christmas ttk change incoming next december calling it now.

[slender epoch]

bf4 riot was meme just copy that

[amber belfry]

ill bet 1k boins

[fiery oxide]

Cause the 2042 one was rebalanced a billion times

[slender epoch]

that’s wild dice lmao

[languid mural]

I mean tbh as long as they keep it off any gimmicks with making you invincible while switching weapons, even if its skillful, its not fun on the opposing end

[slender epoch]

how we gonna over complicate the shield

it’s not siege

[amber belfry]

just make the visor shootable like in 4

[slender epoch]

yes i forgot you can break the window

[languid mural]

tbh I wouldnt be surprised if they did that, literally just port it from 2042 but now deals 30 dmg per hit, shield has the breaking point of a deployable cover, you go at walking speed and you need to wait 3 seconds before shooting when you switch back

the throwing knives classic 👏

[nocturne pebble]

3 second delay is kinda crazy

it should just be however long it takes to get your gun out

[languid mural]

Im jk, but I wouldnt be surprised

I used to do throwing knives for fun in 2042 and in current iteration its literally just better to melee people from the front

[nocturne pebble]

i miss the shield and tomahawk combo from bo2

shit was peak

[modest jackal]

I never really found Riot Shields in CoD to ever be annoying, TBH.

[amber belfry]

cairo defence 4 times in a row. thanks dice

[modest jackal]

All losses?

[slender epoch]

it was more annoying to see riots on everyone’s back

[sturdy spindle]

when they balancing the guns

[amber belfry]

december

they will reduce ttk for the holiday sale to accomodate new ppl just like bf V. ill bet my m44 on it

[modest jackal]

Yeah, but even that didn't bother me that much. Especially in more modern CoDs thanks to Incendiaries and Aftermarket Mods.

[past jasper]

I liked cod riot shields not gonna lie.

mianly because i am a crossbow user, which shield just means a bigger hitbox for me

[abstract nexus]

Xbow in bf6 when

[modest jackal]

Especially in the case of MWIII/23, where introduced so many counters that if a person still complains about it, they are on Copium Life Support.

[fiery oxide]

ugh playing against 2 squads of 150 pingers

dice pls fix

[quartz karma]

mp7 is too overpowered

[next garden]

I saw that more attachments are being added in season 3. Does that mean that Dice will give us more liberty in weapon customization and lower the attachment costs?🤞

[heady gale]

Real

[slow rapids]

[slender epoch]

[slender epoch]

no 🧢

[tender kernel]

https://www.twitch.tv/awarexyzz

[slender epoch]

👀

[sturdy spindle]

when they nerfing

[gloomy oracle]

[amber belfry]

you can get the armored car on third zone B on cairo

if you ram the door hard enough

[turbid raven]

Guys What exactly does zoom transition sensitivity smoothing do?

[fiery oxide]

Exactly what it says

[turbid raven]

Does it have any effect on the zoom from 1.00-10.00?

[eternal lotus]

throwing knife sucks buff it

[turbid raven]

I don't know whether to leave it on the joystick turned off or on

[cedar briar]

If you don't have a problem with how it is now, don't change it

[raw void]

Guys can you connect a hotas in battlefield 6 to fly jets?

[cedar briar]

only if you use a controller emulator to make the game think its one.. but there is probably a change javalin will ban the use of such apps

[hallow geode]

Lmao someone was listening to some meme I've never head of and the way it echoed from feedback on someone else's mic was peak. It went "I guess we're all friends. With Ryan Goslings money (echo started) money money money money. Oh man you just had to be there 🤣

[sinful harness]

Made some pizza soup at work today.

[hallow geode]

Is that another way of saying deep dish?

[sinful harness]

No

Soup that is pizza

[hallow geode]

So soup with pizza toppings

[sinful harness]

Pretty much

[eager kelp]

can someone explain to me actually why I always defend in breakthrough?

like actually not kidding, I would like to play in attack at least once

[sinful harness]

Pepperoni sausage tomato onion and a couple other things in like a marinara sauce.

Topped with cheese

[eager kelp]

im going insane

[sinful harness]

Just bad luck ig

[tender cradle]

Think more people prefer to ply attack vs defense. So people vacate all the defending games they get, which backfills you

[eager kelp]

yeah ok but holy shit man this is ass

[tender cradle]

I prefer defending tbh.

[upbeat spade]

What does this have to do with #battlefield-6

[eager kelp]

i really dont mind as long as i have a team with at least a working thumb on each hand but every damn game defending on my own hell nah

[sinful harness]

Come here and I'll show you.

[tender cradle]

Imo, defending has a lower bar requirement than attack.

Attackers need a little more coordination and baseline BF iq than defenders.

[sinful harness]

You can't spell coworker without owo.

[cyan grove]

same

much more fun and intense in my opinion

[fiery oxide]

Isn't defending basically free wins right now

[cyan grove]

if you cook yes if your mates are alright too it’s so free especially on Hagental Basis

[tender cradle]

Depends on the map, there’s still a bare minimum of work involved though.

[heady gale]

Thanks for this information

[cunning wedge]

Does anyone know why the ump is an 8 shot 600 rpm weapon but the scw is a 2 shot 800 rpm weapon

[eager kelp]

cause they cant balance weapons

[cunning wedge]

the umg is unironically the worst gun in any fps ive ever played

Got 30 hitmarkers on one dude

30

Gun is doing single digit damage

[fiery oxide]

Cause they want you to use headshot ammo on it

[cunning wedge]

Headshot ammo is also doing single digit damage

Im just dying on repeat endlessly till the level 30 badge appears so i can say i unlocked that ugly camo and then never use it again

0/10 gun would rather bash my skull against a brick wall

[modest jackal]

Funny enough, the UMG-40 has better Headshot Power than most Weapons.

But fr, the AK-205 is worse comparatively.

[tired flower]

Hell yeah. More of a defense enjoyer too

[tired flower]

Don't let DICE know that, they'll add back 3 extra MBTs to the attackers on each sector of Mirak

[next garden]

Who else favorite scope is also the R4T 2.00X. Visibility and precision is top notch with that one.

[fiery oxide]

I wouldn't say a giant cross and circle is very good for visibility

[sinful harness]

Of course

[cyan grove]

I have a question, I always see these crazy aircraft and helicopter clips and was wondering where these are made so in what mode

[fiery oxide]

Conquest

[cyan grove]

because since I main breakthrough i don’t really get to play most vehicles

[old siren]

I wish they add casual conquest

[crimson garden]

Penguin question, anyone on EU servers notice issues with Matchmaking currently?

[old siren]

I don’t know it’s just feels weird they didn’t add casual conquest.

[fiery oxide]

Not for me currently

[olive coral]

Gave the KTS100 a real shot for the first time today. Played about an hour with it, thing's totally busted. No wonder everybody's using it.

[fiery oxide]

earlier today though i did

[ionic vault]

praying for next pax unit being russian or french

[teal needle]

I can't find any game

[crimson garden]

Penguin also encountering the same issue

[teal needle]

Getting an unknown error popup

[crimson garden]

Penguin says matchmaking seems to be busted on some specific servers right now.

[teal needle]

Guess it's time to switch to another BF

[patent crag]

why the hell the game keep putting me in bot lobbies the past 2 days I've been trying to play? Cross play is turned on, i have literally not turned it off and it's just 8 Xbox players and 40 bots ffs

[crimson garden]

Penguin says you can probably try again now, supposed to be OK At least the issue here

[patent crag]

i join discord again, to complain, and immediately get a real game

[heady gale]

Praying for good pax support skin

[ionic vault]

espada patrol one is good

[heady gale]

Which is that

[fiery oxide]

Toxic Shock is pretty neat

not free though

[teal needle]

Took a sec but I'm in, ty

[gloomy oracle]

i just use the lights out recon skin as support, the battlepass support skin as recon with cause its got bush

[velvet kayak]

Hey all

[slender epoch]

best skin is the one that makes you look mustard yellow

[velvet kayak]

There is no best skin

[past jasper]

i use the recon skin that uses to much hair gel

i forgot what name the skin is

[past jasper]

the s1 support skin was pretty alright

[heady gale]

I mean there are decent ones but none that stand out to me

[gloomy oracle]

if the skin stands out, your enemy is also see you stand out yeaya?

[hallow geode]

Operation Augr trailer was posted yesterday but it's unlisted. You can watch it here - https://youtu.be/280tCWG01vE?si=zZ4Jg5_dAr2dUtjl

[torpid heart]

im starting to feel old playing this game, lots of my deaths are just: wait, that was an enemy not an ally?

[past jasper]

Nato Campbell, thats the name, and yes im using support skin on recon because i think it kinda fits well

[low ether]

I enjoyed this game for a bit, but I think at this point it's just garbage. No team dynamic. And why they are making it a racing game?

If you're on easy street, sure, make some goofy game modes. At this point I think the devs are just completely clueless.

[gritty glen]

Play 2042 instead

[low ether]

That's useless deflection.

[harsh jay]

BF6 isn't doing that good but def not bad enough to play 2042

[faint plaza]

I use the Romulan Cloaking skin

[dreamy flume]

The maxed out skin is really good

Honestly the best free skin for any pax character

[idle yacht]

Can you elaborate?

[past jasper]

thogh im sorry to tell you, never in bf history was there any team dynamic

[idle yacht]

Unless playing with friends, then it's still just your squad playing with a team dynamic while chaos ensues with the blueberries.

[past jasper]

thats usually how it is

[slender epoch]

there was … just had to find a legit server

sorry yall didn’t have that lol

[harsh jay]

You could fix that with proxy voice chat. There are games that are less serious than BF and have better teamplay because of it

[ashen oar]

The people that would benefit the most from needing proximity chat are never in a position where it would actually be useful

[slender epoch]

just perm servers squads / teams don’t disband after every round would be a good start

[ashen oar]

Im not going to run to the 10 recons on firestorm mountains to yell at them to actually play the game

[slender epoch]

rn the game automatically curates games for a .500 w/l at its core

[slender epoch]

atp just leave haha teams cooked

10 recons must be a mission

[past jasper]

lol no

[idle yacht]

My point proven then?

[past jasper]

teams has always been bad lmao

its just luck of the draw

[slender epoch]

when do you ever see 10 recons on that mntn lol

[past jasper]

ocasionally

even in breakthrough

[slender epoch]

2 or 3 and a tanks fat ahh usually

bt ya becuase there’s much less area until the sector is captured

[ashen oar]

There are places on every map just like the firestorm mountains that attract the worst players

[slender epoch]

it tends to

they took out the a10 from those modes so it just makes it that much harder

[past jasper]

idk why they didnt port some of the preexisting models from 2042 tbh

but i have heared they have basically building it from ground up closer to bfv or something

so im not sure about compatibility

[idle yacht]

10 recons aside, chaos ensues with the bluberries is a thing, and always has been.

[bronze grail]

[bronze grail]

they sure reused the network infrastructure, with dynamic servers and all that

that's why we have no persistent servers, it saves money

no persistent servers = smaller upkeep costs

[past jasper]

well thats a given

they have openly talked about it

which makes sense

[bronze grail]

njo persistent servers = no server browser

[tribal sleet]

So I actually researched why to this exact question. The reason they won’t do that is reason cost for both the player and publisher. They would have to be porting brand new assets into the game that doesn’t exist in game already. So they will be spending more time doing that. That why all the remakes of old maps in this game isn’t a direct port but rather a recreation with bf6 assets. If they did just port over maps with brand new assets the amount of hard drive space to run the game will drastically increase

[past jasper]

but imo they still shouldve have rented rack space for a small amount of persistent for all modes across all regions

[bronze grail]

there was never meant to be a server browser in this game

[past jasper]

well portal was meant to be the server browser

[bronze grail]

it's a patch on a gaping wound

[past jasper]

preexisting models (su25 and a10)

im not talking about map port

[past jasper]

the thing is

the frame work is there

i dont get why they dont just keep few persistent servers for all regions

across all modes

and just have the rest as dynamic

[bronze grail]

you aint getting persistent servers

line must go up always

[past jasper]

the thing is

[bronze grail]

more costs mean less line going up

[past jasper]

they are paying for capacity for portal anyways

[bronze grail]

and shareholders hate that!

[past jasper]

and having a minimal amount of servers for all modes doesnt really incur any cost

[bronze grail]

you're not the customer of EA, the shareholders are

[past jasper]

people happy

bank happy

[bronze grail]

[past jasper]

btw ea is private now

in case you are not up to date with the news

[slender epoch]

they wanna build some type of community you need servers , mm is ok with quick action but it’s not in the players best interests unfortunately

[bronze grail]

well the current owners want to milk the company for all its worth

[past jasper]

debatable

[bronze grail]

maybe after they're done sucking it dry, they'll sell off the Burnout IP to someone who gives a shit about it

[past jasper]

saudi is gonna whitewash themselves more than anything else with the purchase

[bronze grail]

oh please

[past jasper]

they have done that with sports, they are trying to do it with gaming

[bronze grail]

i aint gonna debate you as i dont want to be muted for a month again\

[past jasper]

me neither lmao

we can take it to the dms

[bronze grail]

nah\

im good

[past jasper]

my opinion is that a small amount of persistent servers (2 for each large modes and 1 for each small modes) does not incur large cost

(plus spin up/down server have its cost anyway)

and you are gonna always have people trying to spin up servers

[bronze grail]

dont you just love when you're playing breakthrough and the lobotomite driving the tank gets out to kill some random dude and the tank ends up stolen by the enemy

[past jasper]

so save cost and do the hybrid approach

[past jasper]

the usual you mean

[slender epoch]

bf7 is definitely in development rn if they don’t see bf6 potential in longevity

[bronze grail]

THE CAPTAIN GOES DOWN WITH THE SHIP

RAAAAAAGH

[past jasper]

well too bad those players are trying to save every bit of their 0,7 kd

[bronze grail]

bf7 is in development for sure, pre pre production

[past jasper]

most of the core team move to the next installment when game releases

its not news

[bronze grail]

true

[past jasper]

and if you think the next thing is developed after the current product is EOL boy do i have news for you

[bronze grail]

what does eol mean

[past jasper]

end of life

[bronze grail]

oh

[past jasper]

though i guess the game wont really be EOL until the servers are shut down

i guess its more of end of development

[bronze grail]

the servers shut down after every match

[past jasper]

shit ur right

[bronze grail]

bf6 dead!!!!!

[quartz karma]

literally you

[bronze grail]

support is meant to give heals, not get kills

[past jasper]

for computer hardware, im pretty sure its like when the current gen is released, the next gen and even the generation after that are already in testing

[bronze grail]

at least that's what i tell myself after looking at my dog-ass stats

[past jasper]

@quartz karma can testify that i give revives and heals
(only half revive)

[bronze grail]

#stats message stats in question

what you think penguin man\

[quartz karma]

not many kills

[past jasper]

#stats message

better than me

bud have positive revive/death ratio

meanwhile i zap tr0lling up once in a while

(when i feel like it)

[bronze grail]

i always charge when i can

[past jasper]

i always not charge for @quartz karma

[bronze grail]

if i can't, i throw a supply pouch

[past jasper]

because i can

[bronze grail]

[quartz karma]

3 kills a match is wild

[bronze grail]

look man i am a healer, not a killer

and i occasionally get, get this

five kills!

the most i had in a non botted match was like, 21 i think?

@quartz karma

how many did you get in your best match so far?

[quartz karma]

107 🤢

[bronze grail]

plane hogging

or heli hogging

[quartz karma]

ive gotten plenty of 7-8kpm matches in escalation but they're always like 8 minutes long

[quartz karma]

nah im terrible in vehicles

[bronze grail]

im lucky if i get ten kills in a match of escalation

i always feel like im forced to use engi in that mode

😔

[slender epoch]

ya i’m forced to either engi or laze every vehicle flying vehicle because it’s too difficult for the rest of the recons to do it

[bronze grail]

i guess that's the point, since there's more and more armor to go around as the game goes one, but at the same time, it feels quite limiting playstyle-wise

[quartz karma]

hey you could boost that easily

[bronze grail]

im bad at helicopter

[quartz karma]

no infantry

[bronze grail]

[bronze grail]

im bad at recon

[quartz karma]

not recon bro

support

[bronze grail]

how

[quartz karma]

a lot of stuff

crosshair placement, positioning, all of this really isnt that hard

and you could probably learn it in a few days if you wanted to

[bronze grail]

i dont do crosshair placement, planning or think of positioning, i rush headlong into a room and if i die, I LEAVE THE MATCH

[quartz karma]

real

[bronze grail]

I'll be honest with you, i tried different strategies like turning off my laser until an encounter is imminent so i don't get seen, i tried sneaking up on dudes, crouch running and flanking, but there's always a guy at some random angle i can't see until they air out my back with a handful of lead

95% of the time it feels like it's a tossup whether i win a gunfight or not

it doesn't matter if i shoot first, the other guy gets me most of the time, even if they don't land a headshot

[quartz karma]

do you wear headphones?

[bronze grail]

i tried cheesing it by using hipfire builds on high ROF guns but that didn't help much

[bronze grail]

yeah, i got a sound card some time ago since the integrated one on my mobo died

it helped with detecting where the enemies are coming from

still, i get pulped 95% of the time

surround sound is nice, and helpful

i haven't used speakers in years

the only sure way i can get a kill on a guy coming around the corner is camp while ADS and get a jump on him

@quartz karma

[quartz karma]

hey i mean if you want to get better it isnt very hard

[bronze grail]

it feels like there's always a guy hiding in some obscure spot

[quartz karma]

i can recommend you some videos that helped me a lot

[quartz karma]

yea that happens lol

[bronze grail]

doesnt help that maps are so flank heavy

it happens to me all the time

i guess i get distracted

🤷

if you don't react within the first half a second, you're dead

it's really goofy sometimes

[heady gale]

It’s just practice man

[quartz karma]

yea and that

[bronze grail]

i got a full time job, not much time for practice

i only got like what, 199hrs in since the game came out?

[quartz karma]

i dont play very much either, but if you think about a few things you want to improve at every time you play you will 100% improve massively

[heady gale]

If you play to improve you will

[bronze grail]

i dont do crosshair placement, planning or think of positioning, i rush headlong into a room and if i die, I LEAVE THE MATCH

[heady gale]

Have you tried maybe not

[bronze grail]

sorry, ill add a /j next time

[heady gale]

Thanks much needed

[bronze grail]

i do try to improve but i get easily frustrated

🤷

sure, it's just a game but it's no fun when you go 50% of the match without a single kill

[quartz karma]

very real lol

[bronze grail]

some people are just bad at video games

[quartz karma]

its not hard not to be

[bronze grail]

that takes time, which i dont have a lot of

[heady gale]

How old are you if you don’t mind

[bronze grail]

31, gonna be 32 in a few months

👴

[upbeat spade]

Unc

[heady gale]

Just try play slow tbh, older you get the slower your reaction time as a whole, so fast TTK guns will kinda rinse you

[upbeat spade]

Just use mortars

[bronze grail]

idunno man, im pratty damn good in tf2

[heady gale]

That’s got a slow TTK no ?

Never played it

[bronze grail]

though i do have 2k+ hours in that game and i have been playing it since 2011

on and off

[bronze grail]

not really

it depends on the clas you're up against

it is a more relaxed experience, sure

my reflexes aint bad

[heady gale]

I mean if you’re going against some guns that can be sub 200ms TTK, which is already below average reaction time, I’d say just play slower

[bronze grail]

you're right! i will sit in the back and snipe random soldiers crossing the no man's land

[quartz karma]

does reaction time really matter that much in this game though?

[bronze grail]

ww1 method

[heady gale]

Yes

[bronze grail]

it does

as it does in any fps to be honest

[heady gale]

How often do you get shot and duck behind cover

Slow reaction time you’re just gonna stand there and get shot

[bronze grail]

dude as soon as a sniper gets me, i become a pancake behind the closest bit of rock/rubble

as soon as a dude hits me hard, i back out

bf1 taught me that

i don't stand around and wait for the other guy to turn my brains into abstract art on the nearest wall, i duck, slide, do everything i can to get off the line of fire and yet, i still die most of the time

@heady gale

[heady gale]

Yeah you’re just gonna sometimes

[bronze grail]

sometimes?

as i said, it feels like a tossup whether i win a gunfight

50/50

[heady gale]

That’s the issue my friend, try take less straight up gun fights

[bronze grail]

at least with the gun progerssion changes in the new patch, my revives will count towards gear progression

[quartz karma]

so, try not to get into disadvantaged gunfights like this one

[bronze grail]

my dude, i try

i told you

[heady gale]

Try make sure you’re always head glitching if you can

[tired flower]

Just do why I do and throw smokes and hope for the best

[bronze grail]

i flank, try to be tactical and

[tired flower]

[bronze grail]

and it doesnt work most of the time

🤷

i accepted that im the bottom feeder when it comes to brawn so i just revive teammates and throw supply pouches

[tired flower]

Doing more than 75% of support players

[bronze grail]

medic is my favorite tf2 class

[tired flower]

Pyro and medic were my picks

[quartz karma]

have you ever played counter strike?

[bronze grail]

oh maaaan

ages, ages ago

like, 20 years ago?

cs 1.6

[quartz karma]

ok nevermind

[bronze grail]

[bronze grail]

FELLOW PYRO ENJOYER RAAGH

[bronze grail]

i never liked counter strike

[tired flower]

Getting cheeky flare gun kills was just the best

[bronze grail]

not being able to respawn killed all the enjoyment that game had for me

🤷

i mainly played on the zombie mod servers