battlefield-6

[tall zinc]

but Turing by then will be over a decade so who's shocked

[modest dome]

whats not worth it? pc or gaming laptop?

[amber belfry]

pc gaming, the prices for ssds/ram are not nice rn

[modest dome]

blame ai

[tall zinc]

they won't be for ages

things are only going to get worse

[amber belfry]

i still see people mad they cant run forced rt games on their pascal cards... dont be shocked in 4 years ppl are mad their 20 series wont run well

[modest dome]

pre 2020, everything was damn normal

[amber belfry]

mining craze, capicitor plague. theres something every few years

[tall zinc]

folk have unrealistic expectations yeah

[crimson garden]

NVIDIA should let Penguin know when MFG works in rendering workstation jobs 😃 Until then it be RAW hardware computing

[tall zinc]

blender has support

DLSS that is

frame generation for workstation software is a very different mammoth

[amber belfry]

but hey adleast sora got its plug pulled for consumers

[valid roost]

Yeah, dlss in blender is really good in many situations. Transformative at times

[crimson garden]

That's true, Penguin glad they are starting to implement it more. Lots of money that could have been saved once that gets widely spread! 😃 Money saved = more Battlefield coins bought you know

[modest dome]

gemini is still here

[tall zinc]

people with RDNA4 are in for a very nasty surprise once they find out the newest FSR/ray regeneration SDK is physically incompatible with current integrations

i.e. swapping the DLL will do nothing

[modest dome]

even copilot

[amber belfry]

sora is the video gen from openai (chatgpt). chatgpt self is still up. they are just shutting down sora

[tall zinc]

it's being pulled due to compute capacity limits

not the software itself

very different things

[modest dome]

sora is the one i keep seeing in yt and tiktok

[amber belfry]

which is why i said consumers earlier

[amber belfry]

.

[tall zinc]

yeah it won't change anything really, people are celebrating because they misunderstand the situation with these companies

[amber belfry]

wont change the slopification of every piece of media we consume

[tall zinc]

one thing is seen as some new fountain when reality is very different

[amber belfry]

guys any food suggestions for dinner

[swift notch]

Hello Battlefield devs. When I negativity rate "Battlefield Studios" in the survey it is aimed at EA management not the devs. Unfortunately you did not give me option to separate the two. We all know devs can only do that what EA allows.

[tall zinc]

you think they're going to separate those?

[valid roost]

Beef, prawn and egg fried rice, with edemame beans

[worn flume]

anyone else feel like player counts in lobbies are super low? I join a game of conquest and there might be like 15-20 teammate player icons on my map. I do custom search for like 5 maps I enjoy so that might factor into it, but is this just on my side because of how I search or how it is as a whole? When I started in the last months of Season 1 this was much rarer.

[tall zinc]

you are not mistaken no

it's a dual part problem though

[amber belfry]

going back to the rdna topic of them missing stuff that will be required. this would include current gen consoles?

[tall zinc]

the way the game handles server instances is extremely flawed

[candid oxide]

Why would you separate them anyway? You think the devs are completely fault-less?

[tall zinc]

yes

[barren heath]

Broken matchmaking

[tall zinc]

the current gen consoles are RDNA3 so they fall in the same boat

[amber belfry]

meaning amd will likely have these features for rdna5/6 and that gen of consoles?

rdna users just getting shafted over and over and over

[valid roost]

BF6 player base on PC at least is in the crapper. Too many game modes, too much splitting of players into those game modes...crappy matchmaking systems and lack of persistent servers.

[tall zinc]

nobody knows

[amber belfry]

i have yet to find issues getting in games on pc. but i mostly play during peak times i guess

[tall zinc]

the whispers I'm hearing is rdna5 will have support but they're from dark corners

[valid roost]

I have few issue also, but I play only conquest via custom search, and on the maps I know are favored

[wise spire]

The current rumours/leaks are FSR5 will have MFG and Neural Rendering (like DLSS5) but only supported on RDNA5+

[tall zinc]

consoles are different cause they combine stuff, even if it's the same architecture, one thing that is definitely done for is the steam machine since the hardware on it is terrible

[amber belfry]

it was DOA thanks to ram/ssd imploding the second it got announced

[tall zinc]

yeah

this just seals fate

[amber belfry]

sucks cuz a decently powered cube with steamos would be quite nice

[keen dock]

When is the smg unlock going to be fixed 😭

[amber belfry]

tuesday

[tender lance]

Sup everyone how is everyone day

[tall zinc]

valve are paying consumer pricing for these GPUs from AMD, it's not a Sony situation where they have vendor deals, so they're in the crossfire

[valid roost]

Do you think Valve will scrap it?

[tall zinc]

no

[wise spire]

Current consoles are RDNA2. With only the PS5 Pro getting a slight upgrade to its ML and RT capabilities. It's custom between Sony and AMD. The word is Sony are using INT8 version of FSR4 for their PSSR2. The same INT8 that people have to mod on RDNA2 and 3 because AMD won't officially release it

[amber belfry]

it will sell poorly for 2 years and then be scrapped

[tall zinc]

steamos is the prize they're going for

too much time, money, and resources on something to be killed

[swift notch]

None is completely innocent. However I would still not rate them the same. To me the use of "Battlefield Studios" was EA trying to blame the devs for the management failures.

[amber belfry]

if only the kernal anticheats would work properly id be on linux

[tall zinc]

they won't, not for years anyways

[valid roost]

Sure, but theyre hardly gonna pay through the ass for memory in order to ship the OS in a product (Which most people wont even buy for the price they will have to set it at)

[tall zinc]

getting anticheats compliant has engineering decisions which may or may not compromise the architectures as they currently exist

valve certainly will not open the kernel for them, there are mountains to overcome

[tall zinc]

yeah but it won't be killed, what it will be is insanely expensive

[keen dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946027654732189746/1487134587019591830/IMG_1358.gif

[tall zinc]

insanely expensive by >1k

[keen dock]

:V

[tall zinc]

[amber belfry]

it does suck, it would have been so neat for the right price

[tall zinc]

as soon as valve announced the products the steam machine was dead on arrival, but the ecosystem will outlive it

the amount of money valve have poured in just for the core arch's to get them compliant is in the tens of millions, just too much focus, time and energy to be scrapped this close to release

[candid oxide]

EA is awful, a universally accepted fact. But when they ask questions about the confidence in the future with respect to the game - EA is not responsible for the mortar horror, EA is not responsible for no air radar, they are not responsible for sector and hq bounds, vehicle balance, etc. Faith in either? Heh

[tall zinc]

now hdmi 2.1 is a separate thing that likely still won't work on steamos

[amber belfry]

and i hope it succeeds

anything to threaten microsoft to make them actually lock in for a second

[tall zinc]

even if it does there is no "threat"

[valid roost]

You mean the wake/sleep stuff?

[glossy warren]

Hey fellas
What we talking about

[tall zinc]

not for at least, a decade anyways

and that's a long time

[tall zinc]

hdmi 2.1 operating whatsoever

[keen dock]

Deco for dm support
🥺
👉🏼👈🏼

[tall zinc]

hdmi 2.1 support is blocked on RDNA for Linux by the hdmi forum, seems extremely unlikely it'll work on the steam machine either as a result or steamos w/ RDNA hardware

[amber belfry]

not in the sectors they care about no

[valid roost]

I think Deco would work more in the 10 position, rather than support to DM

[amber belfry]

uhh what

why is the hdmi 2.1 support blocked by them?

[tall zinc]

it's how AMD handle their stack

[heady gale]

No mortar mention 😔

[tall zinc]

support for it would mean everything is open source and hdmi is a blackbox Integration

they tried and were blocked by them

[amber belfry]

but a older version would be fine?

[tall zinc]

<2.1 yes

it works fine on NV since they use the GSPs, and integrations are via kernel modules, but they don't exist on RDNA

[woeful totem]

Does anyone know why my FPS might be degrading over time playing BF6? I don't get this with any other game.

It gets better if just come back to it later

[bright kestrel]

Hey all

[amber belfry]

rdna users continue to get shafted x10fold

[keen dock]

Why the hell has a mouse started to be detected as a Cronus ?

[valid roost]

What is your GPU, do you use settings that have your VRAM usage borderline to maxing out?

[woeful totem]

6750XT, and I used to be able to run the game pretty smoothly on high settings, about 120fps with the occasional dip.

But now I struggle to maintain 100 on just medium settings.

[acoustic vine]

Check the temperatures for heat issue or cooling. Sometimes games will throttle if the temp of the CPU or GPU is too high

[valid roost]

Did it change with game updates, or driver updates. Cos those GPUs have been getting some sketchy drivers for a while now

[woeful totem]

Temps were fine, was my first thought

[woeful totem]

Very possible changed with driver/game updates. But not sure which.

[amber belfry]

yeah. when they update them once a year

[tall zinc]

describe degrading, framerate, stability, what?

[valid roost]

I would as a first step try the classic...DDU the driver in safe mode, then reinstall the latest driver. See if that resolves the issue

[woeful totem]

It slowly dips from 100 to 90, 80, 70

[woeful totem]

Tried that actually

[tall zinc]

over a time period of?

[amber belfry]

what resolution / settings

[devout horizon]

did the fps change after using different driver versions

[tall zinc]

ah ok found the likely issue RDNA drivers

[devout horizon]

older drivers maybe, im still on older nvidia drivers bc they are just more stable than newer ones but i need to spoof my driver version to play the game

[tall zinc]

not surprising anybody they are extremely unstable w/ bf6 atm

[tall zinc]

huh

why would you need to do that

[devout horizon]

bc they are forcing ppl to use drivers after a certain version now

[amber belfry]

for good reason

legit 0 issues i have on newer drivers that i didnt have on older ones

[devout horizon]

my game runs perfectly fine and has done since launch, i do not need to update my drivers

[amber belfry]

i still crash with stuff set to overkill

[tall zinc]

the new drivers work fine, I'm not sure how old these drivers actually are you're using, but you have the wrong mindset

[devout horizon]

i have never had a single crash either

[amber belfry]

they continue to implement new features that do require new drivers tho

[valid roost]

Probs wants to keep using 576.40 cos Nvidia reddit always says its the best 😛

[devout horizon]

i went through 4 different driver versions before my 5070ti stopped crashing applications and black screening my desktop, im not updating to new ones

it was a pretty common problem on 50 series cards

[fiery oxide]

I've had two crashes in this game so far and none of them were gpu driver related

[woeful totem]

Sorry, delay

Probably about 10 minutes?

[tall zinc]

sorry to tell you the version you have is, extremely unstable, the new drivers fixed Blackwell's problems eons ago

[woeful totem]

Medium, 1080p. 6750XT

12GB

[tall zinc]

time to upgrade

[amber belfry]

at launch, 0 issues on newest drivers on the 5080 / 5070 rigs ive built for friends

[devout horizon]

you dont even know what driver version i have

[valid roost]

Did you just assume his driver?

[tall zinc]

you have a 5070ti, that means there is a minimum floor of possible driver versions, and it's older than the game mandates, so I have the approximate range

[woeful totem]

Yeah on launch the game was buttery smooth

[amber belfry]

oh no

[tall zinc]

and that range is unstable for blackwell

[devout horizon]

im on 581.15

[tall zinc]

yes unstable as I said

the issues with blackwell were patched from 595 onwards

[devout horizon]

i havent had any issues using that version

[amber belfry]

as long as hes fine hes fine ig until he isnt

anyways i wouldnt recommend spoofing anything with javelin about

[devout horizon]

well, if they stopped the weird crashing and black screens ill think about updating

[valid roost]

Im on the 2nd last hotfix driver anyways...but I dont really mind upgrading when its needed. Current game ready drivers seem stable enough

[amber belfry]

they have, like i said earlier 0 issues on a 9800x3d/5080 rig i made for a friend and a 5800x3d/5070 rig

[devout horizon]

but i dont see a real reason to upgrade my drivers if i have no problems

[tall zinc]

javelin doesn't check for enforcement of the driver id specifically, but yes bad in principle

[woeful totem]

I'm gonna take out a second mortgage for a new PC

[tall zinc]

you have no support for DLSS 4.5, that's a pretty big starter point

[amber belfry]

wanna buy 1 of my 32gb 6000mhz sticks? ill do 240

[silent heath]

CRIMSON DESERT better play, devs listening players + we can support them for better stuff in future. BF6 DEAD

[amber belfry]

[woeful totem]

I got you

[devout horizon]

i see, well that would be a good reason to upgrade and if they fixed all the black screen issues ill consider it whenver i pick up Crimson Desert

[gentle stirrup]

[merry bolt]

Was excited for this new update coming til I read the small patch notes of fixes that nobody really cares about .. why not wait til it's time for season 3 teasing trailer to drop a big patch?

[amber belfry]

dlss 4.5 preset L is amazing. black magic at this point

[winter atlas]

Nvidia drivers do like to act up. Sometimes, you get random crashes, spikes etc. and you just need to do a clean install.

It doesn't mean the new drivers are more unstable than the old ones though, it just feels that way. The silly human brain goes to the first reason it finds obvious (new driver crashes = new driver worse), and in the case of Nvidia drivers that just happens to be wrong most of the time.

[tall zinc]

I played crimson desert a few days ago, game worked w/ no issues

[amber belfry]

i much prefer a bunch of smaller patches fixing stuff than keeping bugs 4 months and have 1 big patch

[devout horizon]

ive seen the ghosting in crimson desert with dlss though

its awful

[tall zinc]

aside from graphical glitches* specifically

by work the floor is boots and performs

[devout horizon]

thats not no issues then lol

[merry bolt]

Name one bug in that patch notes that is major enough to satisfy the playerbase. Lol

[amber belfry]

i heard crimson desert left in some ai placeholders and some ppl got riled up

[tall zinc]

yeah the developer said so

is being removed

[devout horizon]

i would consider bad dlss ghosting an issue thats distracting enough to detract form enjoyment

[amber belfry]

havent read them yet . just stating my preference

[devout horizon]

the game actually runs pretty ok without dlss though

[green nest]

@tall zinc actually u right, i dont know why i never thought about limits my fps? 360hz is u reachable u aint lying and the fps fluctuating is whats killing me

[merry bolt]

There you have it.. it's underwhelming .

[amber belfry]

it happens all the time with placeholders tbf, these ones just happened to be ai

[green nest]

Appreciate yall help i think ima cap my fps

[tall zinc]

you understand that has no correlation to the driver though correct?

[devout horizon]

yeah

[tall zinc]

all good

[swift notch]

Yes they are. Nothing about BF6 is done without EA approval. It is a multi stage process of making the game worse. The devs can only deliver the crap that EA serves.

[tall zinc]

enjoy the game now

[devout horizon]

thats just bad dlss implimentation

[amber belfry]

dude is knowledgable af

[devout horizon]

if i can hit 90+ fps in a game i wouldnt be using dlss anyway

i think a 5070ti can do that

[amber belfry]

hey deco what preset/quality would you recommend on 1440p btw. any reason to not use L?

[tall zinc]

uh

[valid roost]

Housekeeping updates like this are a good thing tho. Minor issues that are resolved, should be pushed out ASAP. Minor or not. Were getting mostly big updates every 3 weeks with minor fixes in between.

[tall zinc]

l is heavier, but it's sharper for detail, so pick your tradeoffs

[amber belfry]

i flick it to quality regardless of fps, usually does AA better than whatever the game has implemented

[valid roost]

Use preset M for basically everything. L has a lot of issues with volumetric effects. Which BF6 uses a lot of

[tall zinc]

I can't give generalist advice since it's depends on xyz 5 things

[amber belfry]

yeah i get that.

[devout horizon]

not if it has ghosting or artifacts, its not great in Cyberpunk but that game chugs without dlss, its terrible in Oblivion Remaster, its terrible in Crimson Desert

[tall zinc]

that guy's issue is common and easy to triage down, rare tbh

[sharp moth]

which gun has most hipfire potential

m4?

[lost blade]

No

[valid roost]

I use preset M, 1440p balanced preset at 24 sharpness (In game setting) and it looks great

[amber belfry]

m does look okay, but it oversharpened alot. L is super crisp

[devout horizon]

are you using dlss to hit certain a fps

[amber belfry]

both fps and visibility

[devout horizon]

visiblity?

[amber belfry]

taa / no aa looks really bad

[valid roost]

L looks more sharpened to me. but to each their own I guess haha

[tall zinc]

the main reason you use DLSS is not performance, but because the image presentation is better than what the native image can present

[valid roost]

L also runs much worse from what I can see

[tall zinc]

it's not a huge drop tbh

[amber belfry]

its not that big of a difference. barely 10 fps in bf6

[tall zinc]

game dependent~

bf6 it can be in big maps

[valid roost]

Well at extreme high FPS, even a 5% drop is a lot TBH.

[devout horizon]

yeah bf6 seems to do dlss better than other games ive seen, they seem to avoid the weird ghosting other games suffer from

[tall zinc]

rendering is complicated tldr

[amber belfry]

dlss 4.5 in doom the dark ages
all numbers are taken on 1440p, ultranightmare graphics settings dlss quality
Summary Table
Preset Avg FPS FPS Drop vs K
K (4.0) 143.63 0%
M (4.5) 127.24 −11.41%
L (4.5) 121.05 −15.72%

[crimson garden]

Penguin pretty lucky for now at least with RTX 4090, approx 220-240 fps on 240hz screen. Not max settings but in general High settings

[tall zinc]

the issue is you can't use this in this context

the drop is variable on the game itself

[devout horizon]

does bf6 support dlss 4.5?

[tall zinc]

that's how models go, the larger the input, the heavier it is

[amber belfry]

i know its much less in bf6 then in doom TDA

[valid roost]

Yes

[modest jackal]

CZ3A1, NGL.

[sharp moth]

the game is full of players that never hipfire. It has saved me countless times on redsec

[amber belfry]

it has a toggle in the graphical settings but its preset M, if you want L you gotta use override

[amber belfry]

p90 goes crazy with it

[valid roost]

M417 A2 is very good with hipfire TBH. I like that weapon for upclose fights

[tall zinc]

a game does not need to support it, NV allows you to override it via the Nvidia app

[devout horizon]

oh nice

[crimson garden]

penguins upscaling quality set to Performance though, in order to reach those FPS numbers, otherwise it would be around 180fps

[amber belfry]

i had fun getting that one to lvl 50

[valid roost]

BF6 has native 4.5 tho.

[devout horizon]

what was the issue with the 50 series cards causing the blackscreen crashes anyway

[tall zinc]

the only hard floor a game needs is the DLSS version has to be above 2.1

[amber belfry]

dont recommend using it if your below a rtx 40 series

[amber belfry]

only for model M

[devout horizon]

im on a 5070ti

[grizzled tree]

Ok BF6 is having some serious bugs here and there. Starting to piss me off

At this point i just want MW4 with DMZ 1.0

[tall zinc]

Blackwell is a entirely new architecture in terms of how it operates internally, they just weren't familiar with it, this happened with turing on release aswell

[devout horizon]

oh so it was just new tech issues

[tall zinc]

it is extremely different from Ada RTX 40

[amber belfry]

bf6 has a built in command in the console to show what preset your running. but funnly enough if you use override it wont show that

[tall zinc]

you don't need that

NV include a developer debug overlay that works on all games

just a registry change

[amber belfry]

yeah i turned it on to see if it was truly using L

[devout horizon]

why did they push the 50 series then if they were still testing the drivers, is that common for nv to do

[amber belfry]

the console command just stops working when you use override, it will correctly show k/M when toggling between

[tall zinc]

they were not testing them

[devout horizon]

if they werent working properly that seems like they were in the test phase

[tall zinc]

at the time the driver stack was undergoing a big architectural change and this coincided with blackwell

just bad timing

[valid roost]

Easier to push a product and have a few million people act as QA 😛

[devout horizon]

thats how it feels yeah

[tall zinc]

the driver stack was ballooning to some 3GBs in size so they undertook an effort to slash things down

[crimson garden]

Penguin status on EA support case: Player Unavailable? What does that even mean? lol

[amber belfry]

all this driver talk made me realize theres a new update

[devout horizon]

how important is ddu, ive never bothered with it but if im not having issues and just want to upgrade my driver its overkill right

[tall zinc]

not required

[valid roost]

there is a hotfix to the newest driver also lol

[wise spire]

Only for one game. And some say it made it worse lol

[tall zinc]

your driver version is not old enough where ddu is needed

[devout horizon]

i used it when i was getting the blackscreen stuff but that was part of troubleshooting

well ill get the new ones then and blame you if i blackscreen again 👏

[tall zinc]

[devout horizon]

at least i wont have to run a .bat file every time i wanna play bf6 then

i might hold onto it though, seems handy to have

[fiery oxide]

Sounds like a hassle and a half

[devout horizon]

im playing more bf4 these days anyway, every time i paly 6 i just wish it was 4

[lost blade]

4 wasn’t even good

[devout horizon]

ok buddy

bait used to be believable

[lost blade]

3 is where it’s at

[slender epoch]

3 and 4 are barely different lol the devs worked on both

[plush charm]

🫃

[slender epoch]

both those games were loaded with content something we have lost since the

[willow jewel]

Can't go back to 4 the creature comforts of 6 are nice

[valid jewel]

Real. Kill sounds are too satisfying too

[slender epoch]

they could release 4 rn with updated gfx and netcode and id be all set for the next 10 years lol. im kinda sad hardline is being closed tho

enjoy it while it lasts

[lost blade]

Hardline sucked

[keen dock]

All games suck atm say there 18+ yet have voice monitoring built in 💀

[inner swan]

Just because you're 18+ years old doesn't mean you want to get insulted by people online. 😉

[keen dock]

People now days wouldn’t last in old lobbys 😭 lol they was ruthless

[inner swan]

That doesn't mean back then was better. 😛 I grew up with Counter-Strike beta lobbies, and while I came out unscathed, I wouldn't say it was always a very fun experience.

[keen dock]

But if your a adult doesn’t that mean you should be mature and not take things to heart it’s confusing

[fiery oxide]

Have you observed the outside world ever?

[inner swan]

If you want to scream obscenities at others, maybe do it with your friends. Strangers won't often appreciate it. And we don't want you to do it to strangers either.

[keen dock]

Yes but if your going to buy a game that has war and your ok with shooting people and blowing them up you should be ok with language as well what comes with it 😭

[fiery oxide]

I don't remember signing up for getting insulted while playing

[keen dock]

It’s like going signing up for the army and getting shot and saying I didn’t sign up to be shot

[fiery oxide]

[valid roost]

Classic online only brainrot

[keen dock]

But back to my old question why is some mouses bring flagged as crouns zen devices

[slender epoch]

people will always find a way to try and insult lol

dm/ all chat…

i don’t see the dif

[fiery oxide]

Because they emulate a controller probably

or something along those lines

[keen dock]

Only does it to my wireless alien wear one but my wired one it’s fine

[fiery oxide]

Report it on the EA forums with the model of the mouse and maybe they can take a look at it

[sharp moth]

I got oneshot by a scout in gauntlet?

from full hp

[keen dock]

Head shot maybe

[fiery oxide]

With plates on?

[sharp moth]

yeah

[green nest]

Idk capping my fps made things worse the game is more chopped i guess i need frame generation

[fiery oxide]

I mean it's possible you got shot by two people and the game just didn't report it

had that happen to me a few times

[sharp moth]

yeah probably desync or something

[keen dock]

My legion go z2 go works perfectly fine on bf6 idk what you done and that only uses 8gb of ram then on my main pc it’s over powered lol

[tall zinc]

ak user or nah?

[inner swan]

Oh back then I purely camped cs_militia with an AWP

[keen dock]

^ skin definitely needed

[tall zinc]

🤣 it's quite funny that the awp has almost not changed in 15? years, quite extraordinary

[white basin]

Tf wrong with this game my sound just completely glitched out and i had to play with no sound so i restarted app and it fixed

[crimson garden]

Penguin also remember counter strike 1.6 was the thing many years ago 🫡 And now Battlefield 6!

[velvet kayak]

Do we think they will ever give us Platoons in BF6 (they don’t seem to have mentioned the topic for a while),

[keen dock]

Anyone know if all point bulleting is still alive the police vs gangs game ?

[tall zinc]

it has in actuality been mentioned

when is it coming? who knows

[velvet kayak]

Recently?

[fiery oxide]

Next game definitely

[tall zinc]

no, when the game released that platoons were planned, same as naval combat, based on the wording it didn't seem like it was a soon thing, I wouldn't be holding out hope for it for a while

[velvet kayak]

I’ve already given up on persistent servers - platoons just feels like an easier win for them.

[tall zinc]

platoons as a feature is extremely complicated from an engineering pov, it existing is it's own mini project tbh, I'm surprised it got mentioned

[velvet kayak]

Yet every BF I played B4 2042 had them

[tall zinc]

had them in name, the features were different though

[velvet kayak]

I’d be happy if we could just add tag before our names

[tall zinc]

6 is a very different type of game from a development pov of how stuff gets built, parallel streams has implications compared to sequentially doing something, pros and cons to both

[velvet kayak]

Well I won’t hold my breath then

[tall zinc]

best just to wait till it arrives tbh, have no expectations till something happens

at least there's a it's coming, it's a when, not if

[barren heath]

platoons coming?

[keen dock]

Ermmm confused how are people getting different guns in the zombies game mode other than pistols

[tall zinc]

way back when https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/news/community-update-play-your-way

Separately, requests for naval warfare have not gone unnoticed, nor have the calls for a certain fan-favorite little helicopter, platoons, and more.

[barren heath]

Sure would be nice

[keen dock]

I’m playing shell shocked it’s Confusing af

[gleaming cape]

Whats confusing?

[keen dock]

People are getting snipers and smgs when load outs are locked to pistols

[gleaming cape]

If u get kill streaks u get some weapons. I dont know exactly which ones

But could again some of those weapons be exploits. No idea

[keen dock]

Yep someone definitely cheating as they have a tank

[gleaming cape]

Lol

Tank in shell shocked

Lmao

Send a vid/pic?

[keen dock]

Yeah like bruhhh 😭

[gleaming cape]

Hahahaha

I would be pissed

[keen dock]

I quit as soon as I seen it like nope 😭🤣

[faint plaza]

good job! you just won on a team with 32 players vs 24

[limber lintel]

Yeah.

[merry bolt]

I think with how loud the call for persistent servers has been.. it's already been decided it's not going to be returning.

It's like the server browser.. the response is that we already have one .. but it's in portal.. not exactly what we meant.

[velvet kayak]

Yep, they won’t give us this now 😖

[merry bolt]

There isn't money to be made with persistent servers or a server browser.. they gotta get us locked in to those weird red bull collabs and other things we never asked for.

[velvet kayak]

Hate the fact they insult our intelligence by having ‘Server Browser’ as an option on the menu

[merry bolt]

I'm calling it now .. it may not happen in BF6 .. but we'll get in game advertisements for stuff like redbull or whatever else they get paid to collab with.

If it brings money.. you know it'll happen

[faint plaza]

epic ceo tims weenie worth 5 billion and then epic turns around and lays off 1000 people

[green nest]

@tall zinc im beyond stupid

Im not even getting 250fps

Im looking at gpu numbers and fps is next to the cpu not gpu

[latent spoke]

Can anyone help me? Im trying to play battlefield 6 after a few months of not playing it but seems like it doesnt work, I play on steam and whenever I launch the game a black small window pop up and then crashes after about 1 min
Ive tried everything that is on the web
nothing works

[upbeat valve]

Got banned for no reason

I guess constructive criticism is not welcome here

[upbeat valve]

Verify integrity of files

Through steam properties

[latent spoke]

Done it several times, updated my drivers (even reinstalled the update), Checked firewall, BIOS, removed my config files etc etc

nothing works

[autumn pelican]

How do U not have 64v64 is this a Joke?!

[upbeat valve]

Fr

[barren heath]

Most did not like it

[upbeat valve]

Well I doubt we even have the numbers to make that happen

[autumn pelican]

obs the maps could never work here too small

[upbeat valve]

Wrong

The map size is the issue

[barren heath]

Not wrong at all, it wasn't as popular

You can like it more but does not mean it was more popular

[upbeat valve]

You are wrong again

[barren heath]

Besides why would you want it, 1 person has way less of an effect on winning in 64v64

[upbeat valve]

Interesting

[barren heath]

It's already hard enough in 32v32 solo

[upbeat valve]

There's so much I want to say but I'll just get banned again

[fiery oxide]

64v64 leads to many compromises as seen in 2042

[barren heath]

Interesting

[autumn pelican]

BF4 Was just fine

[barren heath]

There's so much I want to say but I(I just dont care)

[barren heath]

Yeah

[cunning moon]

bf1 was goated too

[upbeat valve]

Not "just fine" the gun balance and vehicles made it one of the best FPS games

[autumn pelican]

i got the game for the EPIC 64V64 wonder why i havent had a battlefeild moment Very SAD

[barren heath]

If 128 was more popular in the way you say it is, we would have gotten it

[cunning moon]

whats the best way to level up a weapon on this game?

which mode do i have to play?

[upbeat valve]

I would much rather have that than Redsec

[autumn pelican]

f RedSec

[upbeat valve]

Battle Royale Garbo have no place in BF period

[hardy pasture]

FROSTBITE stuggles with 128

[upbeat valve]

Former cod devs, expect nothing from them

[upbeat valve]

What is that?

[barren heath]

[hardy pasture]

EAs game engine

[tranquil ibex]

Hello Battlefield Development Team,

I’m a long‑time fan of the Battlefield series and truly enjoy the experience your team has created. I do, however, want to bring attention to an issue I’ve encountered with the controller settings—specifically when using the linear response curve.

In most first‑person shooters, I prefer playing with a linear response curve, but in Battlefield the inner stick sensitivity feels unusually high. This makes it difficult to maintain precise aim, even with adjustments. As a result, the linear option doesn’t feel as consistent or controllable as it does in other titles.

I would greatly appreciate it if the development team could revisit and refine the controller sensitivity behavior for the linear response curve. Improved tuning in this area would make a meaningful difference for players who rely on linear aiming for precision.

Thank you for your time and continued work on the game.

[upbeat valve]

Not important

[barren heath]

I have never had as many WTF moments when shooting someone first but still dying as I have in BF6
I realize I am dog shit but still

Is this what people have been dealing with since I quit in Dec

[hardy pasture]

that can happen one map the the next runs fine

[barren heath]

Net code doo doo

[sturdy spindle]

fake excuse

[barren heath]

u fake

[sturdy spindle]

the guns in this game can just have 167ms ttk

[barren heath]

This is it too, they needa up ttk so people have to aim more

It's MW19 all over again but worse

[hardy pasture]

gun ttk so good you get shot before the person is looking at you
it is dog #### net code

[wide cipher]

Hey! Does anyone here experience STUTTERS or "hitches" (micro stutters) in RedSec only? Multiplayer runs perfectly fine, smooth as heck. But, RedSec has such bad performance. Especially after a few games, or in several locations on the map.

AMD 9800x3D
5070 ti
32gb RAM 6000 MHZ

[barren heath]

I get insta deaths sometimes too, literally

[tribal zodiac]

Are you talking about the javelin mouse stutter

[hardy pasture]

yeah, one frame deaths. Its a feature now. No chance they fix it

[wide cipher]

Not sure to be honest. The map feels stuttery after a few games.

Polling rate 1000, no issues in multiplayer. Only RedSec has this "stuttery feeling" on the map. Several locations with micro freezez (a few micro stutters here and there). SUPER annoying. Will this be adressed?

(and yes, every overlay is off). Still stuttering on locations on RedSec. But not in multiplayer.

Hopefully the DEVS are looking to the chat. This stutter is soooooo annoying.. 😢

[crimson garden]

Alright friends, Penguin ready for BF6 matches over here! 😃 @maiden aurora 👈 You also welcome to squad whenever you wish! 😃

[tribal zodiac]

#screenshots-and-clips message this?

[wide cipher]

No not like this. Multiplayer is perfect here, no issues. Only stuttering on RedSec. Stuttering/way less smooth feel.

[fiery oxide]

Is your storage close to full maybe?

[tribal zodiac]

Pay very close attention to see if its the game or just your mouse input

I thought it was my game stuttering at first

And this issue can happen in either game

[candid edge]

Good afternoon men 🫡

[wooden mauve]

I just the ps5 pro before the price goes up

[south thorn]

This BF has had me question my sanity after some deaths.

[upbeat valve]

Mid game

[tribal sleet]

🫡

[lapis heart]

🫡

[inland condor]

Why can't PC players turn off crossplay? Every single time i die behind 5 meters behind a wall it's some console player

[candid edge]

Hi @crimson garden 🫡

[willow jewel]

Are console players rly that good? I've never seen one top the leaderboard

[inland condor]

No they suck but they still lag like hell

[willow jewel]

AI art bro got the premium Sora subscription

[open delta]

does anyone know h ow to practice jets in community bc nothing seems to work

[crimson garden]

Hello friend! Penguin accepted request! 😃 Big apologies for late reply over there, been working on nice case 👉 💼 escalation Nice third parties when there's friends = cool! 😎

[crimson garden]

Penguin can join in some matches if you like friend

[elfin birch]

Deserved the firing I heard about it

Art was atrocious, still is.

Glad to see they are going a new direction with Art💯

[inland condor]

I would just like to see things. LIke enemies and stujff

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-shit-gif-10340128

[willow jewel]

I have the worst Internet and bad eyes and I got no problem

U playing on a tv?

[inland condor]

alienware oled

so no

[willow jewel]

oh damn

U got glasses?

Check if you have SOVIS enemy filter on as well

May help

[inland condor]

contrast is off. There's this 'smear' over everyhthing. Then you have the unnessecary blinding lights everywhere. And of course every pooper is running around with a flashlight on his weapon. Then you got bicycles that explose when a leaf blows against them

[willow jewel]

It under graphics

[inland condor]

you can really tell the 'artwork' has taken precedent over playability

[willow jewel]

U running any upscaling

[inland condor]

nope

[willow jewel]

Oh

Check ur render resolution

[inland condor]

OR, dice juST wants to level the playhing field and make everybody deaf and blind

postivive KD"s for everyone!

[willow jewel]

Try dlss quality idk

[inland condor]

nah, rtx 5090

[willow jewel]

Well

Send a clip of your game

[inland condor]

DLSS no good

[willow jewel]

Dlss is good ...

[inland condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYMcCgfJ0i4

[willow jewel]

This looks fine to me

Might be a combo of u being inside and looking out + enemy lasers and flinch

?

[inland condor]

I think DICE just has some sort of vendetta with eyeballs or something

[willow jewel]

If you wanna see horrible visuals

https://youtu.be/x8XOl_YetVU

3060 and a shitty cpu

[sharp moth]

why cant they release redsec tdm

this fucking cod 1ms ttk is shit.

[slow rapids]

what gun has 1ms ttk

[willow jewel]

Knife

[sharp moth]

shitguns, scw10

[willow jewel]

Those have 167ms under 10m

[slow rapids]

the shotgun yes, SCW-10 is 150ms up close

[merry bolt]

I agree DLSS is great.. especially if you use it properly depending on the card you have. runs great with my RTX 5070 ti . same with my good ol' 3080 ti

[sharp moth]

my point is that it kills gameplay to have very fast ttk allowing you to play like a worm

with longer ttk the player with better aim will win the duel 9 times out of 10

they dont have to cater to casuals in every single gamemode

[willow jewel]

Battlefield is a arcade shooter xd

[velvet kayak]

Not as much as CoD is

Jeez where are my reading glasses? Chat is just a blur

[sweet edge]

all the popular kids are out partying, it's friday night

[willow jewel]

Need irl dlss

[inland condor]

There's so many things in this game that are just flatout ANNOYING. It's really a shame.

Mortars, claymores, flashlights ... just add nothing to gameplay except ... annoyance

[acoustic spindle]

Let’s remove guns too.

[tribal zodiac]

Mortars can go

Ill deal with everything else

Just get the mortars out of here

[gloomy oracle]

flashlights with the current lighting system is just something special

[wide cipher]

No..

[wide cipher]

I wish it was this, but does not look like it. It happens either way.

[tribal zodiac]

No you dont wish it was that lol

Because what i sent isnt fixable

[tribal zodiac]

The sun is legitimately dimmer

Stare into the sun and then a flashlight and report back

[sharp moth]

bf always had super annoying stuff but most servers disabled them. But BF6 has also reduced ttk, Redsec is like the old battlefields but forces me to play goofy nightvision gauntlet to have fun

[wide cipher]

ah damn, sorry haha

[ivory sequoia]

Hello guys, bf6 Middle East server is down due to iran attack on amazon servers in bahrain, and now the game is matching us in Europe servers and asia but the ping is high like 110, are there any solutions ?

[sharp moth]

No solutions

[devout sedge]

Hmmm so no new smg until week 3 lol. No more money from me dice/ea

[subtle sluice]

[rigid snow]

🫃

[acoustic spindle]

The smg is free

[devout sedge]

Yeah after 3 weeks

[acoustic spindle]

Yes so be patient

[devout sedge]

I am nothing else to do but play another game until the new challenges come out

[rigid snow]

you can play the game without doing challenges 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic spindle]

I personally get bored if I don’t see fancy unlock pop up’s while playing 😂

Gimme goop

[sturdy spindle]

bros checkmark gamer

[barren heath]

[rigid snow]

i just play the game just to play the game i dont care about challenges or unlocks

[tough glen]

My rifle has sm low ammo ( im new to the game but like cmon give me the bigger magazine) and it takes forever to unlock new weapons

[acoustic spindle]

If you playing assault don’t carry a weapon sling. It will kill your ammo because it splits between the two

[tough glen]

Lemme check where that is a sec

[acoustic spindle]

It will be carrying a second primary weapon instead of a gadget. It halves the ammo on your primary because they use the same ammo inventory so it spread between two guns instead of all on one. Not really practical.

[devout sedge]

664 total hours on bf6. What's that about 4 hours a day since launch.

[tough glen]

How do i remove that gadget thing then

[velvet kayak]

Hear, hear - I play conquest to PTFO and refuse to change my gameplay for dumbass challenges. If I achieve some passively then great but otherwise I just enjoy playing the game (something lost on a lot of modern day gamers)

[sturdy spindle]

why do ppl who play obj make it well known that they play obj, thats the bare minimum and the whole point of the game

[acoustic spindle]

Pick your primary weapon. The second slot should be a gadget like a ladder or spawn beacon as example. Then your pistol. And a second gadget. And grenades

[devout sedge]

@sturdy spindle what anime you currently watching

[sturdy spindle]

i dont watch anime

[tough glen]

I put my primary weapon then the pistol then its forcing me to choose two so i chose the x95- bre and the ladder

[acoustic spindle]

That works. The first gadget has the option to equip a second rifle or shotgun etc. which is what kills ammo count. So use two gadgets to put all primary ammo to one weapon. As far as magazine size those are through weapon attachments. Most people don’t go much higher than 30 round fast mag because the points get too expensive better used elsewhere

On ARs anyway.

[tough glen]

Yh i understand

[candid edge]

@crimson garden

[acoustic spindle]

I did a thing and reinstalled Bf 2042

🙈

[frail burrow]

What happened to the player count. I can barely get any games

[barren heath]

Broken matchmaking and too many modes

[acoustic spindle]

Don’t know who people think there are too many modes. It’s the same modes as previous games.

Not counting REDSEC

[crimson garden]

Hello friend! thanks for nice ping over there! 👉 🫡 😃 Penguin also not opposed to the different game modes, soon be racing! 😎 🏁

[fossil swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-car-explode-cat-boom-bah-gif-5387928273689188008

[tribal zodiac]

My 850 hours is 4 a day

Or it might be 5, cant remember

[subtle sluice]

Idk what mine

[tribal zodiac]

Unemployed

[devout sedge]

Sheesh 🤣

[devout sedge]

Self

[subtle sluice]

You say that when you know im working has we speak

[tribal zodiac]

Makes two of us

[subtle sluice]

🤝

[tribal zodiac]

Idk i havent played in 2 weeks tho

[tardy oxide]

anyone wanna give me a good CQB weapon setup am tired of these yt videos and ive tried myself they are so bad

[tribal zodiac]

Im being forced outside by the beautiful weather

[tribal zodiac]

Anything thats not an ak205 or dmr

[candid edge]

🫡

[crimson garden]

🫡

[sturdy spindle]

sg553

flash comp
light barrel
light ammo
slim angled grip
violet laser
rmr 1x

b36a4
flash comp
extended barrel
light ammo
ribbed stubby grip
violet laser
rmr 1x

[devout sedge]

Dang. I just ended my 2 day break.

I know i cant do 2 weeks

[barren heath]

Yeah I think I rated L8 too high

[barren heath]

Kinda mid after using it to lvl 50

[sturdy spindle]

dont worry @tardy oxide im not all talk i have video proof

#screenshots-and-clips message

[subtle sluice]

I did the math and it 6.3 hours a days since the game release

[tribal zodiac]

Uh oh time to go outside

[subtle sluice]

Yeah when it stop fricking snowing or rainning

[tardy oxide]

Ooo fast ttk i see cant wait to try your setup

[devout sedge]

I'm on the way up to Maine now fingers crossed no snow

[subtle sluice]

Also you it like 5.2 hours a day

[subtle sluice]

I mean has long it aint in canada you prob fine

[tender lance]

How everything going guys

[tribal zodiac]

If you were actually good you could do it with any gun

[subtle sluice]

Any gun ?

[sturdy spindle]

whats the correlation in that

[tribal zodiac]

Become a better player

[sturdy spindle]

the point is abusing the best gun while having the best aim and movement is that it makes it nearly impossible to lose

[tribal zodiac]

And i would still beat you with an mp7

[sturdy spindle]

theres zero chance

[subtle sluice]

[sturdy spindle]

not only would u have to track movement that ur not used to seeing on average, that gun has an easy 100ms ttk over mine

[devout sedge]

🤣🤣🤣 you right

[subtle sluice]

Im so done with the snow man 😭

[tribal zodiac]

You forget you've been posting gameplay clips for months

I know exactly what you do and how to hard counter it

[acoustic spindle]

Ego doesn’t match the skill

[sturdy spindle]

not true, my movement can vary depending on the situation

[tribal zodiac]

MISINPUT

[sturdy spindle]

u dont know which one ill perform at the moment

[acoustic spindle]

Nothing to see here 😂

[sturdy spindle]

who

if u proceed to say me, we can set up a competition rn

[heady gale]

You

[barren heath]

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

they dont know im top 250 in cod

[barren heath]

[subtle sluice]

You say that like there so many variation of movement in this game like it titanfall or something

[tribal zodiac]

And i was top 5 on bo3, whats your point

[sturdy spindle]

that isnt possible there was no ranked

[tribal zodiac]

My stack single handedly killed bo3 on pc

[tribal zodiac]

Im going off of spm, in multiple modes

[sturdy spindle]

bro u cant keep using lifetime stats 💀

that just means u play too much

[sturdy spindle]

it doesnt have to be a wide variety when the gun kills u in 167ms

[tribal zodiac]

The ones that keep improving every time i get on the game?

[sturdy spindle]

pro pubstomper

also bo3 is insanely easy due to lower sbmm back then

the only games that would count rn are mw22 and above

[tribal zodiac]

My last 4 weeks likely averages out to high 800s for spm and nearly 4 kpm

My averages are numbers you havent hit a single time

[sturdy spindle]

in bo3 u can nuke every match if ur good

its easy to stat pad

[tender lance]

yes it is

[sturdy spindle]

one day razr will see me on the field

and he will be forced to pull out his best loadout

[acoustic spindle]

One day the 1v1 that’s been dodged for months will actually happen

[tribal zodiac]

And im going to use an mp7/ump to prove a point

[subtle sluice]

Cant wait for that to happen

[sturdy spindle]

dont do this to urself

[acoustic spindle]

Never will. All talk no game

[sturdy spindle]

who? ask razr how many times i asked to kill race but he said he had bedtime or something

also there is no talk i have video proof

[acoustic spindle]

Four months of you going afk when people offer to go in chat history 😂

[sturdy spindle]

hey man just 1v1 me instead, ur probably someone that will fail to get 1 kill on me

that will be enough scale to show u

[subtle sluice]

🥱

[quartz karma]

now what happens when he isnt close to a corner lol

[acoustic spindle]

I don’t need to play you. You think you are some gods gift to gaming and it’s honestly pathetic

[sturdy spindle]

my b36 happens

[sturdy spindle]

ah man here we go

[rigid snow]

🫃

[subtle sluice]

Indeed

[sturdy spindle]

how u gonna say anything then avoid the over kill 1v1

[acoustic spindle]

Your ego is already in outer space why would anyone need to feed it further

[sturdy spindle]

hey ur the one that said its all talk, there can still be an ego though

bf6 is open rn

[acoustic spindle]

Why would I play bf6 when b07 is more fun

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

[acoustic spindle]

😂

[barren heath]

Naw

Mid Ops 7

[tribal zodiac]

Wtf is happening in the recon channel

[ashen oar]

[acoustic spindle]

Should I join it?

[subtle sluice]

Maybe

[sturdy spindle]

can u go to the support channel and ask how to set up a 1v1

[agile spindle]

I hope the M1014 gets it's Breaching variant in the future

[acoustic spindle]

Four twitch drops for battlefield active

[crimson garden]

Penguin wonder, why are so many snipers opposed to using PSR sniper rifle?

[acoustic spindle]

Player card, weapon charm, pistol skins and chopper skin

[subtle sluice]

Because the psr is not that great

[rich citrus]

god damn it! console players is everywhere like they kill you so fast than pc players..

[pliant stag]

It’s funny when the game had 500k players on Steam, I kept getting lobbies with like 4 real players and the rest bots. Now with around 30k on steam, for some reason I’m finally getting full real player matches and the servers feel way better this week.

Pretty sure a lot of people quit in the first couple of weeks because of the bots—it was really annoying.

Glad it’s getting better. Hope they keep it real players only, and leave bots for Portal.

So if anyone left because of that, maybe give it another try 👍

[upbeat valve]

not surprised

[tribal zodiac]

Its the worst sniper and its not even close

[crimson garden]

In comparison, which one do you think would be best for Penguin to use? (Not using snipers all the time)

[upbeat valve]

can't play sniper...its too noob friendly

[tribal zodiac]

ESR for conquest and SV98 for breakthrough

[crimson garden]

Many thanks for the suggestion friend, Penguin will test to actually give it some rounds 😃

[zealous raven]

When are they gonna add an Intervention or 50 cal

They really choked out sniper variety from a damage variation standpoint by making the TTK so low for everything

[upbeat valve]

not important

[rigid snow]

how to remove the on screen tutorial thing for the dirtbikes it is just on my screen indefinitely even if i turn off the tutorial and hints

[devout sedge]

Will disappear next math

Match

[agile spindle]

Because they all like using the Mini Scout too much, this is why locked class weapons should've been brought back

[heady gale]

How does mini scout being used equate to locked class weapons 😭

[agile spindle]

Cause you usually see them on Support or engineer, never Recon really

[subtle sluice]

Wait what

What are you saying

[heady gale]

I’ve never died to a minis out not on recon

[agile spindle]

They like the Supply pack

[devout sedge]

Off to bed I go. I clocked my 4 hours today had fun.

[subtle sluice]

Gn man !

[devout sedge]

Goodnight and have a safe Friday

[subtle sluice]

Im not sure but i think i know a thing or two about using the mini scout or people using it but yeah nah 99% of people using the mini scout are playing recon

[agile spindle]

Engis running it just hunt for other engi players (and anyone in the vicinity) and vehicles
It's quick and reloads fast plus you can flick with it pretty easy while ADS

[heady gale]

You can flick the same with any sniper ?

[agile spindle]

You'd be surprised with my teams and the enemy in my games then

[agile spindle]

If you have the ADS bolt on yes, but the Scout comes standard with it

[subtle sluice]

I mean i aint saying that ive never seen player using a sniper on class other then recon the most wild one ive seen is a guys running with a psr 8x and range finder on assault with playing contaminated

[crimson garden]

Penguin used ESR this time around in Hagental Base Breakthrough, but as Support class, seemed to be useful for holding nice angle & shoot LMG campers + being ready to do nice revives when team needs

[tired flower]

Whom are these braindead support players running the mini scout?!

[crimson garden]

Maybe Penguin sometime soon! 👉

[subtle sluice]

I think even Razr doesnt run sniper on support or engi

[tired flower]

I can't see a support player being very effective as a support while also sniping but that's just me

[feral minnow]

selfish snipers

[crimson garden]

Normally Penguin stick to AR, SMG or LMGs depending, but today Penguin decided to test out the snipers! 😃

[tired flower]

True

[subtle sluice]

I run the MS on assault sometime but it not because of the class perk

If yk yk

[tired flower]

What class perk?

Wait nm

[subtle sluice]

I mean in play assault mini scout on mirak valley only so

[tired flower]

Ah for the trenches I assume

[subtle sluice]

Oh def

[feral minnow]

i mean it all comes down to if your playin for yourself or team

[subtle sluice]

Meh not really

Plus most of the time support that wanna play for long range fight use mostly kts or dmr

Rather then sniper

[crimson garden]

Penguin guess there are many ways to be ''sniping'' in BF6 and not only 👉 🔭 🦢 🏕️

[subtle sluice]

I mean there like two way cqc or long range

[gloomy oracle]

i mean my highest kill game with snipers was half the time running on support so i could shields up myself and cheese between 2 rocks

[tired flower]

So not playing support

[subtle sluice]

Lmao

[gloomy oracle]

it never worked again once tanks starting going left on map but the first 2 weeks were lawl, thent he boundary changes

[willow jewel]

Low-key I never revive as support

[tired flower]

[subtle sluice]

Then why you're playing that class then

[willow jewel]

Health pack for healing and ammo

[subtle sluice]

Your teammate most appreciate you so much

[agile spindle]

Ppl who abuse their Supply Pack and sit at the back on Breakthrough on either side, or in conquest they just kinda wait in weird areas

It's not all support players, some actually do pretty good, it's just when they refuse to Revive or never make any attempt at pushing an objective with the team

[crimson garden]

Support players on team not reviving is usually Penguins primary reason for simply leaving the match and hoping for a better team to co-operate with on next join up. (especially if that seems to be the trend from early on in the match) Without revives chances of actually holding a objective gets reduced by a lot

[tired flower]

Hard to push the obj these days with all the mortars

[honest ingot]

greetings all. need new squad members

[crimson garden]

Of course Penguin understand there are circumstances you shouldn't revive too 🚀

[agile spindle]

That's where the Drone comes in handy, or Counter Mortar, or the new HSS gadget

[tired flower]

Works until they camp in HQ

Which is

Most of the time

Also just so happens to be on the class that can resupply their own gadgets

So like

Destroying it does literally nothing

[agile spindle]

I agree with Penguin, I won't hold it over Support players heads when in an active firefight and I died in a bad place, but if they can't get me when behind hard cover it's frustrating

[agile spindle]

It's better to stall them than let it continue at least, may not be a lot of fun but it is effective

[worn flare]

I can say with certainty on certain breakthrough matches I've managed to stall and mess with mortarhumpers enough for my team to successfully take the objective. The key is to destroy it and then destroy it again immediately after, forcing them to at least wait a few, also, do it at head level with the drone, players tend to automatically look skyward after getting some tech nuked by it

[agile spindle]

That's what I usually do, after awhile the Mortar gets pretty accurate and I practice with the drone every now and then so I can fly low without running into objects, it's like Beggars Canyon sometimes, imagine Drone Races in Battlefield lmao

[worn flare]

Let's not give them any more FOMO event ideas

[past jasper]

i mean have you seen the meme build™ mini scout that i made a while ago

it was quite hilarious using it as support

[past jasper]

am i playing the same game with you?

i have never seen a support sniper that isnt hyper agressive

and i have only seen 2 support snipers

[slender epoch]

i saw one the other day on contam

my ahh will go see if each blue dot its recon AND sniping.

[past jasper]

#screenshots-and-clips message

a quick refresher of my support sniper build

[slender epoch]

since it’s open weapons now we can never know for sure

[past jasper]

i mean over 90% of the time it is

[slender epoch]

assault gets the beacon

[agile spindle]

These guys are Usually on Breakthrough and occasionally Conquest maps like Contaminated or Blackwell

[past jasper]

and they get sway

[past jasper]

homie i almost only play breakthrough

[slender epoch]

it’s negligible

[agile spindle]

They like to sit a lot, pretty sure they have a shit bucket as well

[subtle sluice]

@past jasper did you saw my beautifull kts build ?

[past jasper]

and i have basically never seen support sniper

[slender epoch]

Bullet velo cancels the swag penalty

[past jasper]

no, ping me with it

[past jasper]

what does that mean

[slender epoch]

sway*

[past jasper]

how does velocity cancel sway

two very different things

[slender epoch]

snipers are essentially hit scan?

[agile spindle]

I mean, I got Crossplay on, but I get a bunch of them in my matches, there's usually 3 to 5 every match, sometimes zero

[slender epoch]

it’s strong enough to carry negligible sway?

[subtle sluice]

#screenshots-and-clips message

[past jasper]

i want to see the screenshot where you get 3 to 5 in a match

[past jasper]

truly the greatest build ever

hell, send me a screenshot where you see 2 in a game

[agile spindle]

I'll get one, I might or might not get distracted or wont be fast enough to get one, but I'll try

[slender epoch]

when proj velo gets nerfed across the board . snipers will get indirectly nerfed then the sway will have more impact

[past jasper]

how

[slender epoch]

as of rn snipers are dang easy

[past jasper]

sway have zero relation with velocity

[subtle sluice]

Thanks you it a honor that a master pro build maker like you reconize my build

[slender epoch]

both factor into the class

[past jasper]

have you ever used sniper or are you just talking out of your experience of being sniped

[gloomy oracle]

🤔

[past jasper]

nobody factor velocity with sway

[slender epoch]

if sway was an issue then people wouldn’t be non recon

[agile spindle]

I'm usually fighting over objectives or Hunting armored vehicles so it's frustrating when I get domed by multiple ppl running mini scouts

[past jasper]

at least nobody with credible experience with snipers

[past jasper]

well too bad that they are recon players

[past jasper]

vast majority in fact doesnt use non recon for sniping

because the benefit of using recon vastl outweighs the cons

you get fatal headshot, scout in ads, and better rpm

why would you ever snipe with a non recon class unless you are there for the funnies

[agile spindle]

I respect ppl who use it in CQC and all but there are other options, y'all don't gotta run it on every Loadout and every map

[slender epoch]

the main benefit of snipers is 1000< proj velo sway is negligible

[past jasper]

you keep telling me sway is negligible

[agile spindle]

Ravic uses it on Engi

[past jasper]

have you ever sniped with a class that isnt recon

hell, have you ever used snipers at all

[slender epoch]

it is when snipers are hitscan

[past jasper]

what is ravic

so you have never used sniper at all

[slender epoch]

yes i have

[past jasper]

and trying to contribute to this conversation with false facts?

[slender epoch]

what ?

[agile spindle]

Ragebaits the enemy team, pretty funny stuff, he's been around for awhile

[past jasper]

well yeah

it is very funny to use sniper on non recon because it makes people mad so much

even though it is objectively not optimal

unless you are literally rushing with sniper there is zero point for running it on non recon

[quartz karma]

whats up unc

[past jasper]

if you rushes a lot then there is a sense with support on small packs

[slender epoch]

there absolutely is benefits man people play differently

[past jasper]

and some people play differently just to get sub 1 kpm

[slender epoch]

someone might see the beacon more valuable

or deploy shield

then you don’t need to hold breath just mount

[past jasper]

and they would be playing the game badly

[past jasper]

so they becomes the easiest target for enemy recons by a country mile?

[slender epoch]

it’s a possibility and how people play and i notice it

[past jasper]

well yeah

and hows their stats

sure those might be players that play non recon with sniper, but their stat is so bad with it that it doesnt matter

not even a minor annoyance in any match

[slender epoch]

probably not as high but the devs made it that way lol i was all in for closed weapons so at least it was more transparent who had snipers

never know anymore

[worn flare]

I tend to run engi with DMRs unless it's a tight map, then SiG my beloved

Or grot

[past jasper]

those are not examples of "other classes shouldnt have access to sniper" because they does not move the needle by any bit

[upbeat valve]

dmrs are garbage

[worn flare]

Sure

[upbeat valve]

not "sure" its a fact

[worn flare]

Sure

[prime bridge]

m417 is my beloved engi gun, super slept on

[agile spindle]

M227 & M4 Carbine for me

[slender epoch]

dmrs have no scope glint lol

[past jasper]

the people who are running snipers on alternative classes were the same people that camped in the back with sniper and achieves a shocking 10 kills and 4 deaths after 25 minutes of gameplay

[worn flare]

The SVK is also a cheese miniscout

[tribal zodiac]

@subtle sluice hes calling you out

[past jasper]

svk isnt a miniscout but ok

[upbeat valve]

??

where is this coming from?

[past jasper]

the conversation in relation to above

[tribal zodiac]

850 hours of watching my teammates do exactly this

[past jasper]

saying people might see beacon or support shield as more useful for sniping

[worn flare]

I mean in the sense that at the most common combat ranges it's a one shot headshot like the mini

[past jasper]

and saying that as a argument that other class shouldnt have access to snipers

[worn flare]

It obviously doesn't dethrone it

[tribal zodiac]

At less than 30m sure

[past jasper]

homie svk one shots at 20m under

[upbeat valve]

it's not a big deal

[past jasper]

exactly

[tribal zodiac]

The the mini scout isnt good

[slender epoch]

they do becuase velo is so high rn lol i just want dice to tone the velo down some make it more diff to shoot

[tribal zodiac]

At least for 99% of the people that try to use it

[subtle sluice]

Why you putting me on blast now

[worn flare]

I must be getting astoundingly lucky with damaged players then. I wasn't aware of that

[past jasper]

which is why i make the argument that the people does these make no impact on any gameplay before or after

[subtle sluice]

Im not that guys anymore tho

[slender epoch]

everything makes an impact even someone just standing there being afk makes an impact

[tribal zodiac]

Im going to kfc for lunch, anyone want anything?

[slender epoch]

famous bowl

[past jasper]

they statistically dont make any impact

[worn flare]

I want you to go to canes instead

[tribal zodiac]

(9pm is my "lunch" break)

[past jasper]

because they contribute so little to literally anything beside for a team losing

[subtle sluice]

Sure

[tribal zodiac]

Canes chicken is garbage

The sauce is good

The chicken and breading itself is garbage

[subtle sluice]

Ive been to kfc once so idk what to get

[worn flare]

As opposed to KFC?

[tribal zodiac]

Kfc chicken and canes sauce is so much better

[worn flare]

Only KFC I've had is in Japan imo

[past jasper]

idk chicken and their watered down gravy?

[slender epoch]

go get a popeyes biscuit

[subtle sluice]

Ig ?

[gloomy oracle]

kfc used to be so good 15 years ago.. now its sad

[subtle sluice]

Again been to kfc once and felt like shit for the next 3 days

[worn flare]

I think that's most fast food chains

[past jasper]

fast food used to be decent 15 years ago*

[slender epoch]

it’s better over seas

[tribal zodiac]

Its incomprehesibly cheap however

[gloomy oracle]

$2 tuesdays we're my love

[past jasper]

thats what you get for having the cheapest fried chicken

[tribal zodiac]

You can get a whole meal for $7 at kfc still

[prime bridge]

just ordered dominos

[slender epoch]

japan kfc was goated

[subtle sluice]

Fair

[tribal zodiac]

Do that literally anywhere else

[gloomy oracle]

now the same meal is liek $11 CAD for 2pc and small fries

[worn flare]

The crudburger and fried disaster side were better when they were 2$ and not 15 across the board

This applies to all fast food

[subtle sluice]

Subway used to have a deal 12 inch sub for 5$

[past jasper]

why would you ever go to kfc without a deal or coupon in your hand

[gloomy oracle]

i don't

[past jasper]

they do the deals so often

[tribal zodiac]

If you go to subway you need help

[quartz karma]

might be the most overrated spot of all time

[gloomy oracle]

its been like years since i've gone

[subtle sluice]

I didnt say i go there i just keep seen the ads on tv

[past jasper]

right now on the kfc app im pretty sure you are getting 4 pc and 2 fries with popcorn chicken for 12 cad pre tax

[prime bridge]

nah i wont take subway slander

[past jasper]

subway genuinely is pretty shit though

unless they have bogo going i will never set foot in a subway

[subtle sluice]

Indeed

[worn flare]

Luckily I have access to coco ichibanya, my go-to fast food chain

[prime bridge]

you've clearly never had an italian BMT on herab and cheese

[subtle sluice]

[past jasper]

hey good for you for not living in north america

where fast food is just bad expelsive medium speed food

[abstract nexus]

Real

[gloomy oracle]

but for $12 i can get a nice bowl of pork ramen

[subtle sluice]

How the weather in your part of canada ? Me ? Snowing during the night and rain during the days making me go crazy

[abstract nexus]

North America has imos tho

And thats peak

[past jasper]

where tf are you getting a bowl of pork ramen for 12 dollars

wait

[worn flare]

I'm from NC, but I'm here now and I plan to stretch this tour as long as I can

[abstract nexus]

Makes up for that

[past jasper]

is that real dollars or the canadian rubles

[past jasper]

tbh china japan and korea all still have good eat out options

cheap ones aswell

[worn flare]

I raise you 1200 yen pork chashu bowl

[subtle sluice]

Why you're insulting your own dollars ?

[prime bridge]

bro said real dollars like USD isnt lower than CAD

[barren heath]

[past jasper]

i mean have you looked at our dollar to usd exchange rate?

our dollars dont worth anything

[subtle sluice]

Yes it sad and depressing

[worn flare]

They do, but I grocery shop as well which is also hilariously cheap

I splurge twice a week

[past jasper]

unless you are buying rice in japan recently

[worn flare]

Let's not discuss that it hasn't made it to me yet

[past jasper]

i mean eating out in asia isnt even really a splurge

you are not spending much more money compared to cooking at home

[worn flare]

I'm very far from mainland Japan so I get like a 2 week delay on everything

[past jasper]

oh

well idk about it then

[worn flare]

This is true, but like, a dollar is a dollar

[past jasper]

well a dollar goes a lot more in asia than in NA

[worn flare]

That's undeniable

[past jasper]

considering i could literally go out and have a meal for about 4-5 cad in china

[worn flare]

I wish I could go to China and visit 🫠

[past jasper]

which for some grocery options its even hard for me to have the cost per meal under about 3 dollars in canada

not to mention the delivery app deals

i think i literally had lunch or stuff for about less than 1 cad

[worn flare]

Delivery apps are garbage here

My island is actually primarily POVs which makes traffic a disaster

Wholly different from the mainland

[past jasper]

then i have zero news information regarding your situation lol

because my news information is either my mates who lives in very main land or social media memes

both of which i am not up to date with

[worn flare]

By Nippon standards, I actually live in the ghetto prefecture, which is hilarious by western standards

[candid edge]

🫡 🇺🇸

[worn flare]

Murica

Repping the set an ocean away 🇺🇸

[tribal zodiac]

Ship me rare parts

[worn flare]

Get bent those parts ARE MINE

[tribal zodiac]

Go to upgarage and max out a line of credit

[worn flare]

I use an upgarage hand towel in my kitchen

[tribal zodiac]

Upgarage prices are buns anyways

[worn flare]

Haven't been recently. Last I went there were some Weds Cerberus for like 700 USD

[modest dome]

Guys, what's your mouse?

[worn flare]

It really depends on the time

[tribal zodiac]

Zowie ec3-dw

But i have small hands

[worn flare]

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