battlefield-6

[velvet kayak]

Fellow Xboxer!

[tired flower]

If only 🙁

[noble creek]

ok so, contamination def has a balance problem on escalation

[topaz plinth]

Me personally the stealth changes are pretty gnarly

[noble creek]

it's so easy to trap pax into it's last flag most of the time cause again, like liberation peak, their flags are downhill from the entire map

[timid oak]

What up with this 5.11 skin, do we get the assault or only engineer with a purchase? Said something about other operators and items being purchasable on the 24th also.

[marble stag]

The spawns on the new map are kinda fucked though

I keep getting spawned right in front of enemies lol

[rich torrent]

You can also steal the LB on all maps very easily due to its acceleration and just being spawned in.

Great design.

[marble stag]

See this is the exact bs i mean, and constantly get. I'm going 11/1 and all of a sudden hits just stop registering, even on stationary targets and i drop down to 11/8 because i can not win a single trade anymore

Every other game or so

There you go, another headshot on a stationary target just doesn't register, and i die.

[outer birch]

Orl the Aristocrat

[marble stag]

Can't catch a break lol

[river ice]

Okay. Open mike should be a banable offense.

[tired flower]

But you can always Breakthrough

fr tho that sounds frustrating

[marble stag]

And again, guy just sitting there, dead easy shot. All 3 shots go through him and he turns around and kills me.

Fucking abysmal

[supple plume]

who up sharting they JORDs?

[marble stag]

I am over this netcode

Jords are sharted for sure

[slim iron]

I ll also speak telugu lets connect!

[marble stag]

There we go another headshot

Registers as a fucking body shot

Of course the other snipers' shot doesnt

[mighty mirage]

Are there any experiences which spawn in multiple AH-6 Little Birds for practice?

[haughty badge]

yeah something weird with the hit reg... the map is pretty cool tho.

[slender epoch]

spawns are scuffed on the map (esc)

[heady gale]

Just had to age verify for Xbox love this

[ocean birch]

hi everyone

[languid mural]

I have like 3 weapons that I cannot get rid of the "new" dot on

I know its an attachment but I have no clue what it is

[marble stag]

Shame you never get to play again now

[heady gale]

Real

[gentle harbor]

im trying to get some grenade kills in redssec and thats damn near impossible

[languid mural]

doesnt finishing guys count? just throw them at downed ppl

throwing knives work for finishing downed ppl too

[marble stag]

Getting grenade kills in general is abysmal lol, glorified firecrackers because the devs hate splash damage

[gentle harbor]

they dont

i tried it, kill confirms dont count apparently

[torpid heart]

yeh i dont like contaminated

[gentle harbor]

who.. who thought this challenge was a good idea?!

fr

[marble stag]

The challenge would be good

If grenades actually did something..

[tall zinc]

killing a downed person does not count as a kill, it's only the thing used to down the person

[gentle harbor]

best i can do is hide by a drone area thats filled with the contaminated smoke

prone and keep chucking grenades to that general area as the count down goes down

[frigid hornet]

Good luck with that

[cinder sedge]

is anyone getting issues with queueing into gaunltet in a party?
playing crossplay and my friend on xbox (im on pc) cant queue into a game with me. I load in, he doesnt

[marble stag]

Things just don't.. synergize in BF6

[gentle harbor]

explosives are nerfed to the frigging ground in bf6.

an rpg to ur face barely does damage sometimes.

grenades, just suck.

especially for kills

[marble stag]

Makes sense for anything but grenades as they're pretty short range

IFV's with proper splash damage, or tanks, would be a pain.

[velvet shard]

They add solos in RedSec yet?

[tall zinc]

nope

[velvet shard]

Dope

[torpid heart]

is the DB12 bugged?

[heady gale]

Bugged how

[velvet kayak]

They do tend to kill folk

[marble stag]

Not in battlefield 6

[fervent yarrow]

Ok the issue of BF6 freezing/crashing my whole PC was so much worse today. No indication of performance issues at all before freezing, and no clear way to reproduce crash conditions.

Hell, for one of them it seemed to crash when I turned on my speakers ffs (they're active, only play sound from my PC and are not powered by my PC)

[carmine escarp]

[fervent yarrow]

Skill issue, grenades never seemed weak to me

[velvet kayak]

You don’t have any grenade kills in BF6?

[marble stag]

I have grenade kills, they're just underwhelming

They tend to just give me enemy suppression if they don't hit right below someone's feet.

[minor phoenix]

Hey !
anyone know what was the daily gift yesterday ?

[fervent yarrow]

RPGs have anti-armor, not anti-personnel, warheads

Grenades are fine, you're just not using them properly

[marble stag]

How do you even improperly use a grenade lol

It either lands right next to someone or it doesn't

Mine occasionally visibly explode right at someone's feet and all they do is give me a suppression score

[velvet kayak]

Well grenades are my # 1 gadget for kills (but now I’ve started using Claymores - they will soon overtake)

[tender cradle]

If you accidentally self-die

[marble stag]

Fair point

[balmy sinew]

[fervent loom]

[tired flower]

Think it was a BP exp booster

[minor phoenix]

thx bro 🙇‍♂️

[torpid heart]

nah, RPG are annoying enough already, i get sniped by em all the time by engineer players that cant shoot past 75m using their AR

[tired flower]

idk man, never had trouble getting kills with the nade launcher

[marble stag]

Simple result of guns conking out at under 100 meters lol

When your RPG is more accurate than your gun, you use the RPG

[sturdy spindle]

[stark shoal]

What’s your next weapon movement demon?

[marble stag]

[abstract nexus]

P18

[little phoenix]

What the heck is the issue with the "Recon specialist 1" challenge set. I have been trying to get the "spot enemies at objectives with gadgets" for like 3 wks now and am only at ~240 despite getting like 30 spots on objs in a match and it only counting like 3-5 max. It's really ticking me off

[balmy sinew]

Breah through contaminated 🗣️ 🗣️ !

[sturdy spindle]

vcr 2

[stark shoal]

5.7 movement demon when

[velvet cedar]

I think i finally found the reason why this game doesnt feel like battlefield. The vehicles are a very important part of the bf experience and i feel like in most of my matches I often forget they exist. Tanks and choppers arent scary in this game. they need to buff all vehicles.

[charred rose]

I was stuck on this one too it's worded terribly they want you to spot enemies in their currently owned objective so like spam drones on casual breakthrough with all the bots

[stark shoal]

Play rush. It scans a lot of them and counts

[little phoenix]

thanks bro. I've been trying but it just seems like its doesn't track reliably and this is the last class mastery quest set i have is for recon

it just feels like when the game first released and half of the challenges weren't correctly tracking. I'll try rush tho

[heady gale]

.

[sturdy spindle]

i like that ribbed stubby is one of the first attachments for the vcr

[balmy sinew]

sprint drop shooting seems to be the meta 😭

[sturdy spindle]

im on tier 28/110 ima take a break

[maiden thunder]

the meta is bunny hopping

[sturdy spindle]

ew

[elfin wraith]

Drone

[balmy sinew]

😄

[maiden aurora]

Ribbed stubby, 18"us barrel, standard suppressor. Try this

[maiden thunder]

penguin hopping

[sturdy spindle]

u need light barrel and long suppressor

[balmy sinew]

The drone will always be disgusting.. Game changing utility.

[slender epoch]

only becuase of how spotting is

lol*

[balmy sinew]

I feel like a super soldier when I use the drone and the other team can't shoot it down lol 😭

[tender wing]

Guys, anyone else who purchased the Phantom Edition on the EA App did not receive the Season 2 Battle Pass?

[maiden aurora]

I know. I use two builds for that weapon. The long suppressor one is better

[sturdy spindle]

but one build just cooks the other

[clever jasper]

Gotta pay for the s2 bp to support their indie game studio

[tender wing]

Common, you dont need to remember me how stupid i am, its sad.

[clever jasper]

You good homie ! Trust I was mad I had to pay again also

[hearty lion]

hola guapos, alguien para Redsec? +3

[barren warren]

escalation on the new map is amazing

[worthy island]

where do i go for support

[inner swan]

There are links in #info and you can report bugs on the forums that are linked in #report-a-bug

[worthy island]

i dont see anything for support and nothing ive tried in the bug area has worked

[modest jackal]

I had an aneurysm trying to do the DB-12 Challenges.

Shotguns in BF6 don't adapt well to the TTK of other weapons.

Even the M870 feels meh (I was also grinding to get Slugs).

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

m87 is top 3 weapon in the game

[maiden thunder]

W map

[modest jackal]

For you, ig.

[meager temple]

Why all of the weapons take 0.20/0.50 seconds to kill someone after season 2 update

[sturdy spindle]

wym 1 shot to 20m

[hexed willow]

Are these things improved in Season 2:

Weapon bloom (shots being random whether they land or not)
Hit registration being poor
Crossplay/controller inputs having different recoil patterns to M+KB

Those things have put me off from the game, just wondering if it's changed.

[torpid heart]

shotguns its either a instant kill or the follow up is slow enough that they can turn and kill you

[sturdy spindle]

what

[meager temple]

DICE can you sell BF franchise to Embark Studio, please

[modest jackal]

I'm definitely convinced that the 1SK Range for the M870 is 15m by default.

[crimson garden]

Penguin thought it was a good idea to test out the DB-12 😮 Still not a good idea Penguin died very quickly using it

[sturdy spindle]

[abstract nexus]

Yeah db12 is still ass

The one shotgun i think slugs arent good on tbh

[sturdy spindle]

shotguns shouldnt run slugs

ur just nerfing its full potential

[marsh thunder]

your name is vc2 movement demon and you just said slugs shouldnt be on shotguns?

[sturdy spindle]

yea

[marsh thunder]

why

[sturdy spindle]

why u running slugs on a gun that can demolish ppl up close through hipfire and even a good distance out with ADS

[modest jackal]

ADS doesn't reduce Spread though in this game.

[marsh thunder]

slugs give HS multiplier, to one shot also ads isnt tied to the spread its random within the circle.

[heady cipher]

is the assignment for enginner the one that u need to destroy air vehicles is bugged?

[sturdy spindle]

ADS is tighter

[idle kelp]

Slugs demolish up close too

[sturdy spindle]

slugs up close are the reason why ppl hate the gun they built

[idle kelp]

Sounds like you have a skill issue

[sturdy spindle]

wym it wasnt my problem

[crimson garden]

Penguin recently tested this pellet spread claim since it was a topic yesterday and it's true, makes no apparent difference 👉 Shotgun buckshot with/without ADS. The conclusion landed on: Middle Buckshot pellet is bit more precise when using ADS.

[charred rose]

So you can get them there headshots with twice the effort needed

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

[heady cipher]

the engineer specialist assignment in which you need to destroy aircraft is bugged? does anyone know?

[sturdy spindle]

so what if u make the worst hipfire build and ADS

[crimson garden]

Penguin says we can do a test! 😃 That = cleanest way to answer 🚀

[sturdy spindle]

yea unless ppl are naturally maxing out hipfire by default which they shouldnt, ads will be tighter

[crimson garden]

Penguin did a quick test based on your suggested setup, and the ADS shot seems to give bit more narrowly grouped pellets from buckshot! Many thanks for adding that suggestion to big test! 😃 🚀

[placid wyvern]

I think I prefer having a single projectile. Slugs are nuts on the Saiga.

[crimson garden]

Penguin mostly use slugs too, but nice to make sure we work on correct information! 😃 VCR-2 Movement Demon big help 😎

[sturdy spindle]

saiga is supposed to be the walk em down gun and ur turning it into the complete opposite

[placid wyvern]

Yeah, now it can both "walk em down" and "projectile em down" up to and around 30m.

Pocket DMR.

[sturdy spindle]

nah u need some fat hipfire

[placid wyvern]

Pellets too weak, this ain't BO2.

[sturdy spindle]

ur main gun is for longer range

[placid wyvern]

I have no trouble close-range with slugs.

[sturdy spindle]

only if u miss

[placid wyvern]

Yes, greater incentive to not miss with slugs.

Just saying, my shotgun performance is better with slugs.

[crimson garden]

Penguin of course did more tests & the result doesn't seem to be always objective though. Since now Hip fire had lower spread than ads 2 times in a row, (Some random factors it seems)

[placid wyvern]

Slugs respond better to bullet magnetism than pellets, don't forget.

That's basically universal in all shooters with both ammo types.

[torpid heart]

the saiga cant even walk em down with 8 rounds tho

[placid wyvern]

Sure does for me.

Favorite shotgun out of the four.

[torpid heart]

its the third for me, just not enough power

[placid wyvern]

Same damage profile as the DB-12, but higher fire-rate and cadence make it much more reliable.

[torpid heart]

yes but they share the same issue

[placid wyvern]

If you're speaking in context of one-shot potential, then obviously it's not as good as the M87 or M10.

But shotguns having such a steep damage fall-off makes one-shots less common to begin with.

I prefer a reliable two-tap than an iffy one.

[sturdy spindle]

i only see sweats run hipfire saiga or just the m87 buckshot

they drive by easily with saiga

[placid wyvern]

What is a 'sweat' in your eyes?

[sturdy spindle]

hypercarry

[placid wyvern]

Guess that makes me a sweat.

And I prefer slugs.

[sturdy spindle]

whats ur win rate

[rose fable]

did helis get a health nerf?

[placid wyvern]

Who cares?

[sturdy spindle]

wdym the whole point of being a hypercarry is that u carry all ur games

to a victory

[placid wyvern]

If you haven't realized by my messages up to this point, I'm not sweating to win; I've been working to get every weapon to 40.

[sturdy spindle]

[placid wyvern]

And Saiga was my best-performing shotgun.

[sturdy spindle]

below 50 meters its probably the best gun u can use if u arent shooting ppl off of headies

but i dont think im the biggest fan

[tropic horizon]

it looks cool, so if its not useless im gonna use it

[shell iron]

only 2 daily challenges today?

[placid wyvern]

Seems like 2 dailies is the new normal.

[shadow rampart]

There were 3 yesterday theres some wierd ui issue where it doesn't show the 3rd sometimes if you technically did it the day before

[placid wyvern]

Oh, that must be why I only had two.

[modest jackal]

Heard that the new DMR is meh.

[placid wyvern]

I already got it 40, it's excellent.

[sturdy spindle]

id like it a lot more if it was a carbine

i may just go back to my m433

[crimson garden]

Friend, Penguin question: How do you think VCR-2 compares to the M433?

[rose fable]

its pretty much the m4a1 on AR

same profile

[tough gate]

Breakthrough on contam sucks

[modest jackal]

Isn't it like a competitor to the LMR?

[sturdy spindle]

for a slightly smaller ttk, the recoil difference is not worth

[placid wyvern]

I thought the same thing, but it's far more reliable.

Basically a higher-ROF SVD.

[sturdy spindle]

vcr is 20 dmg consistent from 25-75 wym

[placid wyvern]

Because ARs have a longer damage fall-off.

[rose fable]

well its an AR

[sturdy spindle]

so how is it same profile as m4a1

[rose fable]

but its 900rof on 25dmg, same profile

[placid wyvern]

Base damage and ROF.

[sturdy spindle]

oh thats what ur calling the profile

[placid wyvern]

What did you think profile was?

[tight prism]

You get 25 skips. You just don’t get to manually apply them where you want

[sturdy spindle]

the range

cause AR is too heavy

[rose fable]

you kinda can

if you select the path before buying it'll skip that path

thats what I did and got the VCR right away

[placid wyvern]

Oh didn't know you could select the path beforehand.

Good thing I enjoyed the GRT.

[modest jackal]

With the sole exception of the NVO-228, the rest of the ARs have the following Damage Drop Off Points:

• Max Damage: 0-21m.
• Mid-Damage: 21m-75m
• Minimum Damage: 75m and Beyond.

[rose fable]

yeah, after you complete the initial 5 path

[placid wyvern]

Does it work before completing the first 5? Because I got pro immediately.

[rose fable]

not sure, I kinda did by accident, wasn't sure on getting pro at first, got it after I completed the 5 path and had selected the last path in order to get to the VCR, then I decided to get and it unlocked that path

[harsh walrus]

Is the audio still messed up for footsteps? I use headphones/ war tapes just curious if something else should be used or where I ask. Thank you

[placid wyvern]

Guess I'll test it out next season.

[sturdy spindle]

use high dynamic

[harsh walrus]

Ah ok thank you!

[tight prism]

You are genius lol.

[rose fable]

war tape is a mess

[rose fable]

lol just a happy accident lol

knowing dice they prob patch later lool

[peak panther]

So BF6 has lost 90% of its player base and I, as a long standing BF player (started on pc with the og BF) haven’t been playing simply because the maps are too small for a BF game. Every BF player I know says the same thing : “they made a beautiful COD”. Please, bring back the feel of big maps.

[tight prism]

So what you are saying is every battlefield player you know is a redditor keyword repeater lol

[haughty badge]

They didn't fix the chat... Hilarious

[tight prism]

Not really a bad thing to make it hard for people to be toxic to each other lol. It’s the only thing anyone uses chat for

[cedar briar]

more maps the size of the new one would be great

[worthy cave]

Talking trash is a time-honored art form.

[rose fable]

the 90% things is getting old, yeah its far from the launch numbers, but those are only steam numbers. The game is a regular in the top 20 on steam. You can't expect nearly 800k ppl to just play the one game all the time.

BF6 numbers are still good

[quartz karma]

he discovered the vcr 💀

[sturdy spindle]

do u have the vcr

[quartz karma]

yes its incredible

[sturdy spindle]

do u have bf pro

[quartz karma]

no

[sturdy spindle]

holy no life

[rose fable]

dayum

[sturdy spindle]

[rose fable]

boosters?

[quartz karma]

exploit 😈

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl he got tricked

[quartz karma]

some chinese thing

[rose fable]

guys remember when bf premium was a one time purchase XD

[cursive temple]

Yeah 15 YEARS ago

[gritty glen]

Premium was stupid to begin with

[rose fable]

this work for sidearms, rlly dont want to level does legit

[rose fable]

better than pro every season

[placid wyvern]

Definitely don't. The sidearms to 40 took years off my life.

[cursive temple]

Premium was good back then now premium wouldnt work

[sturdy spindle]

cod has been doing premium battle passes per season for years

battlefield finally joined

[rose fable]

issue with premium was locking ppl out of maps, the one time purchase was nice tho

[tribal zodiac]

I forgot to check how far i got on the BP before i got off this morning but im almost certain i was nearly half way

[sturdy spindle]

holy no life

[rose fable]

nah this bp is going by quick

[tribal zodiac]

Well i actually have bf pro

[sturdy spindle]

oh

bro paid $30 for a battle pass 🥀

[tribal zodiac]

If bf pro and 8 hours of gameplay can get me half way done with the BP, thats concerning

[cursive temple]

If they would have premium People would complain about how expensive it would be

[rose fable]

they made it easier to lvl, but watch ppl bit ch that they have nothing to do in a week

[modest jackal]

The 2 Revolvers aren't bad though.

[tribal zodiac]

I had one of those shitty vanilla giftcard things

From christmas

[placid wyvern]

Every sidearm except the ES 5.7 and the GGH is at the very least decent and workable.

[tribal zodiac]

And it was like $25 i think

[placid wyvern]

But they're still the most challenging archetype to level.

[cursive temple]

Because people moaned it was to hard to complete the BP. Now People loan it's to easy

[tribal zodiac]

I thought the last one was too easy!

[rose fable]

it was lol

[modest jackal]

Yeah. They're definitely laughable compared to their predecessors.

[rose fable]

its like the bp should last half the season

[cursive temple]

You get what you asked for

[tribal zodiac]

Im literally going to be done with the battlepass this weekend if i keep progressing at this rate

[tribal zodiac]

I didnt ask for this lmao, i wanted them to make it harder

[rose fable]

the challenges make it trivial, and then if you add a booster its lol

[fallen fox]

harder my ass
getting the vcr should get me paid minimum wage at this point

[worthy cave]

Why does it matter if the BP is too easy - you paid for it, just finish it and then play everything the way you want to. It shouldn't be a slog for paid content - maybe if it was unlockable via xp, the xp/free route should be a slog but that's the tradeoff.

[tribal zodiac]

I like a challenge and progression

[cursive temple]

They listened to the community and this is the result

[rose fable]

bro wut? just select the path

[tribal zodiac]

And they continually get rid of the challenge aspect

[cursive temple]

The community wanted that

[fallen fox]

its still a slog to go through

[worthy cave]

The challenge should be in the form of really hard to get xp-based items that you can do outside of the BP. Like a really rare camo you can only get by getting level 150 on a gun or something.

[placid wyvern]

Elephant in the room: consider the fact that Pro was purchased, and weekly challenges are a substantial boost.

I'm 49/110, rn.

[crimson garden]

Penguin also like halfway done with the Battlepass, still having lots of fun despite to that of course. To Penguin it could also have been harder to unlock, but understanding that someone with less time should also be enabled/allowed to unlock something too, that in return would be bad news to those who can't play the same amount as well ❤️

[placid wyvern]

BP sweats like us shouldn't dictate to say it isn't challenging enough.

[fallen fox]

monkeys paw
animated camos

[rose fable]

anyways anyone notice heli take more dmg now? stealth nerf?

[tall zinc]

content being harder to farm is bad for retention, rather than the reverse, they made this mistake with 2042 numerous times, it leads to player burnout/people not returning once finished

[placid wyvern]

Points to Destiny

[cursive temple]

Yeah but that's the problem of those people if they cant play enough

[rose fable]

yeah, im happier now that I quit Destiny

[tall zinc]

and tbh if the determination for playing a game is "I want to max the pass" you should probably be playing other games

[rose fable]

I'm a year sober

[placid wyvern]

Congrats, two years here.

[sturdy spindle]

[cursive temple]

A game should be challenging.

[sturdy spindle]

the game is challenging we have RNG gunfights

[tall zinc]

your matches should be challenging, content should not be, this isn't a phantom program, it's paid content

[placid wyvern]

If BF Pro grants 25 tiers skips, then I've worked through 24 tiers since season 2 began, with several hours played, more than the average player.

[cursive temple]

Nothing challenging about the game

[tall zinc]

increasing the grind for paid content just wastes player time and is what causes a game to permanently die

[placid wyvern]

If one gets 20 tiers a week, then a base BP owner would take six weeks to complete it. That's substantially challenging.

[rose fable]

kinda wish bf pro didn't offer skip just extra stuff. Maybe I want to slog through the bp

[tall zinc]

looking for the next hamster cycle is a player psychology issue and someone being too attached

[tight prism]

Without the tier skips there is no justification for the extra $15 in cost

[cursive temple]

No it would be rewardingyou want that last reward you gonna sweat for it

[cedar briar]

That's the mentality of a short attention span

[tall zinc]

what is rewarding to a person who spends money only to find they need to spend 400 hours on that thing?

[rose fable]

Why I mentioned extra content with the pro

[tall zinc]

?

[placid wyvern]

Similar to the Battlefront 2 situation, there's a tipping point between appropriately challenging and "sense of pride and accomplishment".

[cursive temple]

THEN BUY MARIO KART

[crimson garden]

Penguin give big thanks to BF6 for making it possible for most players & friends to get in-game rewards ❤️+ 🎁= 😎 BF6 is for everyone and not only those who consider themselves ''elite''

[tall zinc]

some people will take this statement personally, but it's true, if you find yourself playing a game for the dopamine reward rather than the game itself then you are no longer finding the game fun, and are simply doing a chore, this is poison for the health of a live service game since they need to last years to survive

[cursive temple]

And don't be lazy

[tall zinc]

there are games which went down this route, world of warcraft, destiny, as mentioned, there is one common thing between them all, they are all dead

games which respect player time are the ones that thrive, this is what history shows, you can disagree with it, but it's a fact of the situation

[rose fable]

wow dead?

doesnt that thing have millions playing?

[keen flame]

Do I have to have a specific role or something to post clips?

[cedar briar]

describing mmo's which by nature are meant to be long

[tall zinc]

no not anymore

hasn't for a long time, it used to, key word used

[placid wyvern]

I'm gonna go do homework now. Have fun

[cursive temple]

I play games for that special Camo or gun skin and i want it to be difficult. As you would appreciate it more. Grind that shizzle goddammit

[tall zinc]

that's fine, you are a minority, the majority do not play games for this

[cedar briar]

sense of achievement putting time and effort into something

[rose fable]

I i can get the cool stuff by playing normally cool, when its rng f that

did enough of that with Destiny

[tall zinc]

and it only becomes the majority when all the other players have left and it's only the hardcore players left

[cursive temple]

This new generation is making gaming boring. Gimme a challenge..

[tall zinc]

it isn't a new generation thing

[zenith kraken]

When do we get footstep audio? Or tank audio?

[placid wyvern]

Games have challenges, you just lack patience.

[tall zinc]

the demographics are people are getting older, they have less time, commitments for things, less time for games

[cursive temple]

Yeah the ones that don't have attention span of a goldfish

[cedar briar]

yet everything is taking less time becasue younger people wont put effort in to do soemthing regardless of what it is

[tall zinc]

no, the average gamer is around 45 years old as of reported statistics, not 15

[cursive temple]

That's those people problem

[cedar briar]

is this another reddit stat

[placid wyvern]

Video games should not demand maximum attention from every other aspect of one's life.

[tall zinc]

if you want to exclude most of the playerbase, then that's fine, but this is not how games work, they work on what their buyers are

calling people lazy doesn't change anything

[torpid heart]

They shouldnt have buffed the M433.... its so good

[cursive temple]

You don't have time to play games is a life choice

[meager temple]

Lazy studio lazy devs, sell bf franchise to embark studio

[placid wyvern]

Calling players lazy for not putting in maximum effort into a video game is absurd.

[tall zinc]

no lol, ESA stats, i.e. industry data

41 years old rather than 45, little difference

[cursive temple]

People make choices in life those choices shouldnt affect other People

[fallen fox]

This is the equivalent of lego dishing out 200 dollar sets mainly for adults

[cursive temple]

But it is true.

[placid wyvern]

Correct, like projecting laziness onto those who aren't demanding the same degree of challenge.

[placid wyvern]

Many people call gamers lazy implicitly, because it's arguably an unproductive activity.

[heady gale]

What’s this argument even about

[placid wyvern]

The battlepass isn't challenging enough apparently.

[heady gale]

I mean it is going so quick

[keen flame]

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Finals was and is an absolute shitshow of a game

[cursive temple]

This game became to easy WAY TO EASY

[meager temple]

ye cope

[placid wyvern]

Thanks penguin.

[tall zinc]

people being addicted to games is a symptom of attempting to attract a certain type of audience, an audience which this franchise has never had (historically), and that doesn't work

[crimson garden]

Wrong emote friend! Penguin would never do that! ❤️ 😃

[tall zinc]

a games mechanics is a reflection of its audience, at the end of the day

[placid wyvern]

How many hours of BF6 have you played since S2 began?

[heady gale]

Is there a way to check ?

[cursive temple]

Goldfish

[placid wyvern]

Probably, but you could ball-park it.

I'd say about 15 for me.

[cedar briar]

i've put in around 10 since S2 began, half the BP is completed

[placid wyvern]

Which is a lot.

[cursive temple]

18 hours

[placid wyvern]

Yes, 15-18 is ridiculous for two days.

[heady gale]

Less than 5 hours lol

[placid wyvern]

It's not a fast BP.

[tall zinc]

if this game was built around this type of audience you're wanting, it would be infinitely worse than it is today

SBMM, all these mechanics that people supposedly hate, is a reflection of the audience playing it

[cursive temple]

You can do the battlepas in a week

[placid wyvern]

By putting in even more hours which the WHO defines well over the threshold of "addiction".

[past jasper]

is it though

[velvet kayak]

F the BP

[past jasper]

also you cant finish bp in a week

unless you max out the xp cap for half the week

[placid wyvern]

Unless you're addicted.

[past jasper]

you are still not finishing bp within a week with norma means

[placid wyvern]

I suppose you're right.

[cursive temple]

I don't care what the owls say

[placid wyvern]

Evidently.

[velvet kayak]

It’s not BF. BF is about playing the actual game (and more precisely - PTFO)

[cursive temple]

It is. No challenge zero effort

[past jasper]

so whats your spm

[velvet kayak]

I’m disappointed with mine in this BF - it’s only 439

[past jasper]

mine is pretty low as well

aside from the matches where i did nothing but sit and wait for LB

around 500-700

[cursive temple]

Gamers were always seen as rebellious people, the nerds, outkasts. Now that mainstream has joined it's all went to poop

[placid wyvern]

Weird.

[past jasper]

gamers being rebellious

lol, lmao even

[placid wyvern]

G*mers rise up.

[past jasper]

if you mean by mainstream joins that ship has sailed about 40-50 years ago

which i doubt that you were alive at that time

[hallow geode]

PSSSST if you unlock the 323 skins in the battlepass you get to use that character without buying the bundle. Don't tell nobody. I'm tryna not spend a dime over here and still enjoy new characters 😎

[cursive temple]

550

[hallow geode]

But seriously I hope this is intentional

[past jasper]

thats about average to below average around decent players lol

[heady gale]

Isn’t 550 like top 5%

[past jasper]

90% of the players also cant even walk straight

[gentle harbor]

yikes, no luck with the grenade kill + assists challenge.

this should never be a challenge imo, grenades just arent designed to kill people in this game.

its more for flushing people out, then theres the fact you only have 1 grenade in most classes.

it pisses me off so much, I have to deal with this nonsense to then get the mini-scout

[tender narwhal]

did they increase max c4 count to 4?

[placid wyvern]

Did you try casual breakthrough?

[placid wyvern]

Yes.

[tender narwhal]

walking gay is much safer

[velvet kayak]

No, I carried 5 today

[tender narwhal]

did they reduce damage per c4?

[placid wyvern]

No. And to clarify, I meant you spawn with 4 now.

[tender narwhal]

VinceMcMahonIntrigued.gif

[past jasper]

because i dont have good data of battlefield, im again gonna take world of tanks as example

the players that are considered "not worse than bots" are 83rd percentile, and the commonly refeered as "good" players starts from 95th percentile

[gentle harbor]

can't i dont own the main bf6.

too expensive in canada.

so im stuck with redsec till otherwise

[placid wyvern]

Sorry, I forgot you mentioned that earlier.

[past jasper]

which is why i think for considering skill its ok to discard the rest of the dataset and focus on the top performers that actually effects matches outcome positively

[cursive temple]

Im in the top 6% that's Well above average

[pseudo lava]

Isnt it like $100 in canadian dollars

[gentle harbor]

yes

[tender narwhal]

not WoT x_x

[pseudo lava]

damn bro

[placid wyvern]

The base game is $90 in Canada, but I got the Phantom Edition, was about $120.

[velvet kayak]

Omg - get a job

[past jasper]

well wot have very open api and also i have good amount of experience on wot so thats the data im gonna share lol

[tired flower]

Listen, the w key is very wobbly

[pseudo lava]

$100 is not a small amount of money

[velvet kayak]

It’s neither here nor there

[placid wyvern]

Also, jobs are hard to get in Canada rn.

[cursive temple]

So be like TRUST ME BRO

[hallow geode]

In the world*

[placid wyvern]

ye...

I'm even struggling just to get an internship.

[cursive temple]

What kinda job you looking for?

[past jasper]

for all casual facing games the trend are about the same, obviously imo wot is a lot more casual than bf, but i think it is safe to discard stats from below the 90th percentile

[hallow geode]

A rockstar dev who worked on so many rockstar games is struggling to find work. It's rough out there for everyone

[gentle harbor]

It sucks, ill never play recon, its just not a good idea without the mini-scout

[tender narwhal]

really, even while you're trying to (wisely) get away from American supply lines?

[placid wyvern]

In context of that statement, minimum wage jobs are extremely competitive. I'm looking for summertime engineering work.

[hallow geode]

Imagine having red dead 2, gta 5 e.c.t on your CV and still not getting hired....

[past jasper]

which year are you in of uni

[gentle harbor]

wha what?

[placid wyvern]

We have an LMIA and wage stagnation issue, too.

[tender narwhal]

did @placid wyvern work on RDR2 and GTAV? O_O

[past jasper]

if you are 3rd year and below you are gonna have a terrifically hard time

[placid wyvern]

Second. I'm not looking for a co-op rn, but an engineering role would be nice.

[cursive temple]

A job is a job. Never be picky if you need a job

[tender narwhal]

afraid I"m not familiar with an 'LMIA' 🤔

[hallow geode]

Yep a former rockstar dev has been without work for a while simply because nobody will hire him. The game dev industry is in shambles

[placid wyvern]

A little taboo for this server.

[past jasper]

basically impossible for 2nd year unless you have stacked club experience and projects

[thin fox]

reconsidering deleting game after season 2 shit

[tired flower]

Almost too quick, I'm done 2 of the paths and it's only been 2 days

[gloomy oracle]

With pro?

[placid wyvern]

Yeah, but I already have close to a decade of work experience and a strong portfolio.

[meager temple]

sell bf games to embark studio

[tender narwhal]

issue with people from outdoors displacing those indoors?

[past jasper]

idk then

[placid wyvern]

Plus I'm learning full-stack right now, so I'll make my own portfolio.

[cursive temple]

Ok

[placid wyvern]

Cannot confirm nor deny.

[tender narwhal]

don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya

[tender narwhal]

always remember it's the corpos and bureaucrats to blame, not your fellow working man

[cursive temple]

And what about working in other branches?

[gloomy oracle]

[placid wyvern]

Totally agree.

[thin fox]

cringe asf

[split vine]

Have you tried to apply for internship at Digital Extremes?

[placid wyvern]

Branches of what

[cursive temple]

Yes

[tender narwhal]

🗣️ 💩

[placid wyvern]

I'm open to it, but I'm ambivalent to working on video games.

[tender narwhal]

Canuckistan :/

nobody cares, Luule

[cursive temple]

There is work enough you just have to have an open mind

[past jasper]

also rev imo LIMA isnt really the issue

[tender narwhal]

ligma

[past jasper]

since im pretty sure LIMA is already gone rn

[placid wyvern]

It was before I was going to school full time.

I haven't earnestly looked for work since early 2024.

Also, Alberta gonna Alberta.

[cursive temple]

Don't be picky in choosing your jobs

[placid wyvern]

I'm literally in a position to be picky.

I'm also not desperate for work right now, school is my focus.

[cursive temple]

Entitlement is a big problem

[meager temple]

DICE please sell bf franchise to more skilled studio like embark

[placid wyvern]

Go find your shadow.

[lofty maple]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-japanese-spider-man-takuya-yamashiro-emissary-from-hell-poses-gif-1074415717130316205

[tender narwhal]

experience and education are literally entitlement

[cedar briar]

Not everyone can afford education

[tender narwhal]

!!! also that^

[velvet kayak]

I left school with none

[cursive temple]

I thought that to when i was younger. That Will change when you get older

[tender narwhal]

the meritocracy is a myth

[tender narwhal]

I don't think so

[past jasper]

lol, lmao even

[tender narwhal]

defib movement angel 😳

bugged AF gadget

[tired flower]

Nah he's a defib god

[tender narwhal]

1. what makes you assume I haven't
2. what makes you think economic destitution would make me feel experience and education were suddenly not assets that warrant better compensation?

[cursive temple]

It not always goes like you want it to go.

[tender narwhal]

it doesn't mean you're magically "too good" to work entry level jobs while you search, but it does mean you--in an actual meritocracy--merit commensurate compensation

[placid wyvern]

Dude's trolling.

[past jasper]

well right now basically everone have undergrad degree

[tender narwhal]

and the sky is blue, more at 6PM

[past jasper]

and masters is the new undergrad

[tender narwhal]

which is a joke (on behalf of employers)

[placid wyvern]

Personally, I'm actually doing a dual degree.

[past jasper]

i mean a escalation of education is always gonna happen

though also there is a lack of people in trades lol

[placid wyvern]

It's a perk of studying engineering at my institution, offered instead of a minor.

[tender narwhal]

according to stats, ≲40% of 25+ adults have a degree

[slender epoch]

ai gonna take over anyway if that bubble don’t pop

[velvet kayak]

I’m old enough that education was not needed to succeed

[tender narwhal]

because it's usually back-breaking

but it doesn't need to be, if workplaces were sensible

[placid wyvern]

And I've already broken my back.

Well, shoulder blade.

[tender narwhal]

I damn near broke my neck

[placid wyvern]

And had to have my first rib removed, TOS.

[terse vine]

Are the Twitch drops still available?

[tender narwhal]

oof, my condolences

[tired flower]

Are you planning on getting a second one removed??

[velvet kayak]

I don’t know what that means

[placid wyvern]

I feel great now, just struggle to lift heavy thing above my head.

[cursive temple]

I wish 😔 i studies as graphical designer. Ended up as an arborist because graphical design job is so badly paid while they told me when i started studying for it that it would be paid really good

[tender narwhal]

nothing a P-5000 power loader can't fix

[placid wyvern]

So you're projecting your experience with an arguably niche field of study with a poor ROI?

[terse vine]

https://x.com/Battlefield/status/2023427387350712680

[tender narwhal]

I respect graphic design, especially in the age of rampant AI slop

[placid wyvern]

It deserves respect, but it's so industry-specific.

[tender narwhal]

civilization makes further and further specialization and subspecialization inevitable

[past jasper]

also literally branch from graphics design to ux

[tender narwhal]

Microsoft is fine with using AI for ux

[cursive temple]

Again times change what can be seen as a good choice can change over the years.

[placid wyvern]

I agree.

[crimson garden]

Friend! Penguin says felling trees 🌲 = cool But lots of work sometimes 💪 Penguin also running a tree-felling business while not playing BF6 etc 😃

[charred rose]

I makes the pictures to express my love of battlefield 6

[cursive temple]

Yup

[tender narwhal]

depends, felling/trimming trees to prevent powerline collapse: 👍
clearcutting the Amazon rainforest: 👎

[terse vine]

Who said I have to watch? Ill just leave the stream on my pc and work out or go out for a bit.

[velvet kayak]

Still - what’s the point?

[charred rose]

battlefield

[placid wyvern]

[fallow bolt]

Hey what are the new wepons and gadgets

[velvet kayak]

Battlefield players don’t care about skins

[cursive temple]

An arborist makes sure the Forest stats healthy. Clear cutting is disgusting

[fallow bolt]

Hey what are the new wepons and gadgets

[tender narwhal]

🔥🔥🔥

[cursive temple]

Check in game

[tender narwhal]

and by 🔥🔥🔥 I mean 🌳🌳🌳

[fallow bolt]

just tell me

[placid wyvern]

Alright, I'm gonna do that homework now. Enjoy whatever this is.

[opal ivy]

Does anyone have issues with crosshair moving randomly when playing with crossplay on?
When playing only with console players all is good. When playing with pc sometimes my crosshair is doing 360 degree circle or moving one two second after input.

My connection is fine
My controller is fine

I am clueless and frustrated .
Any ideas ?

[charred rose]

Ur probably right but as the new official battlefield player I like em and buy em cuz they're neat and the devs need a direct IV drip of my wallet to survive

[tender narwhal]

🔥🔥🔥

[fallow bolt]

stop arguing

[tender narwhal]

do yu have the option with the hud movement ticked on?

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[cursive temple]

How many jobs you have ? 3 or 4?

[opal ivy]

What option ?

[cursive temple]

Pew and pew pew with larger PEW

[empty topaz]

damn lol, there's a queue to get in all of a sudden

[tender narwhal]

ah lemme see
Infantry Crosshair Projection under the Crosshair submenu in the HUD tab of the settings

[cursive temple]

Stop drinking

[charred rose]

But they said the game was losing numbers they LYIN

[tender narwhal]

easier said than done

[opal ivy]

Turned off

[tender narwhal]

stick drift?

[cursive temple]

I know.

[empty topaz]

20k more players than the average 40k players. 40k average is still amazing for BF

[charred rose]

Season 2 already a W fr

[opal ivy]

Nope, issue only when crosssplay on
90% games on console and it's fine
It was fine in 2042

[empty topaz]

no it's not what?

[tight prism]

Turn up the deadzones in settings

[tender narwhal]

I don't play on console so I'm afraid I don't have any firsthand advice to offer 🤷‍♂️

could be networking snafu, that seems to be par for the DICE course

[opal ivy]

But if this is connected to deadzones why only aim is wonky on crosssplay?

[empty topaz]

you're seriously saying a 40k average isn't good for BF? lmaooooo look at all the other averages in the other games, it never came close

[tender narwhal]

if it's only when crossplay is on, what would that have to do with it?

[opal ivy]

I have literally 1-2 second delay or 360 degree spins randomly

[tender narwhal]

100 million minimum 24hr players or deadgameit'sover

[tight prism]

No idea the deadzones have been bugged since launch. You can’t set them to zero without drift randomly showing up

[tender narwhal]

probably not your controller, but have you tried another one just to rule it out?

[opal ivy]

I have something like 8 and 5 .
Deadzones are fine

[crimson garden]

Penguin pretty much do what's needed on demand within the same company, boat driving, commercial diving & tree-felling. (Big planted fields for construction material & dangerous trees near buildings etc, you understand 🌲 🌲 ) Demand decide what Penguin do! Otherwise BF6 is the thing! 🚀

[tender narwhal]

my xbox one master chief edition controller developed stick drift 😭

[opal ivy]

I dont have second controller.however I went back to 2042 and bf1 and all was good

[lean patrol]

Is there ever going to be an option for pc to turn off crossplay and avoid the desync?

[opal ivy]

No issues in any other games .
To be specific crosssplay on is the only scenario when it is going haywire

[empty topaz]

get the Wolverine V2 wired... hasn't failed me in the year and a half that i've been using it.

[tender narwhal]

wouldn't surprise me if it's snafu outside your control with this game :/

[tender narwhal]

what is that 👀

jk I haven't fired up my xbone in years and am not planning on getting a series x/s

[empty topaz]

it's just a tanky Xbox controller with trigger locks

[charred rose]

Stop trying to run from the console bros they need to have fun too

[tender narwhal]

all I want is a 360 controller that works on [insert current xbox generation]

peak ergonomics, then they decided to f it up with the xbone, because Microsoft gonna Microsoft

finicky ass server rules

[lean patrol]

Its not fun to dump a mag into someone and they take no damage or they shoot you around corners through walls etc its a terrible experience

[tender narwhal]

👆

[opal ivy]

So no one playing on ps5 with same issue?

[tight prism]

Not worth buying any controller that doesn’t have at minimum Hall effect or TMR sticks these days.

[charred rose]

I have never seen this happen so I deny your account of it existing

[opal ivy]

I have found few posts on Reddit with same problem
No solution

It all began with Eastwood update

[cursive temple]

I thought you were An audio engineer at a gaming studio? What llm did they feed you ?

[opal ivy]

I have days without any issues and some days when everything went wrong .
Today I have been doing tank turrets spins randomly

Impossible to be effective on battlefield 🙁

[crimson garden]

Many years ago Penguin did work in gaming yes as sound designer, but today that's more or less private/hobby now

[empty topaz]

I think the servers just suck at directing players to certain modes. Most people use the filters for the modes they actually want to play, so if you're queueing for a map or mode nobody else is searching for, the game fills the gaps with bots. It’s not that the game is dead, it’s just bad matchmaking logic.

[tender narwhal]

does the newest elite controller have either of those

[tight prism]

No which is why it’s not worth the price. Gamesir has TMR controllers with Hall effect triggers for under $90

[placid wyvern]

I just got the Gamesir Pro yesterday and it's excellent.

[tender narwhal]

can you swap the internals into an elite controller? 👀

[tight prism]

I’m sure there are ways to get third party parts for the tech savvy

[tender narwhal]

I just love the master chief colorscheme 😭

I don't have any elite controller much less the MC117 one

[tight prism]

That’s what I use. I went through three elite 2 controllers in a year that all had stick drift and malfunctioning bumper buttons in less than three months. Never again

[empty topaz]

Well, I mean… I don’t see you offering an actual counter‑argument. If you’ve got one, go ahead, otherwise you’re just saying ‘uhhuh’ because you’ve got nothing.

[tender narwhal]

classic microshaft

[placid wyvern]

Got the ZZZ edition for wireless.

[cursive temple]

Xbox or Playstation?

[placid wyvern]

It's so feature rich I can't believe I got so many elite controllers.

[tight prism]

I have the wireless wuchang one

[tight prism]

Xbox

[empty topaz]

700k players average for BF is not realistic dude, that's launch numbers...

[tender narwhal]

legit name me a game that retained 90% of its release-day player count

I defy you

[opal ivy]

It seems that all hope is lost , Welp going back to 360 spins xd

[placid wyvern]

I was skeptical of the added shoulder buttons but after a day I almost prefer them to paddles.

[cursive temple]

Rather 40k then 700k blueberries

[empty topaz]

What other BF game held 700k + players? Arc Raider's isn't BF

[cursive temple]

None

[tight prism]

Ya I use right paddle for crouch/slide. left paddle for hold breath and the right top extra bumper for melee

[empty topaz]

They all had a good PR team

[cursive temple]

Bf1 pr was better

[tender narwhal]

wtf is everyone always mentioning arc raiders

ngl idk what that is

[cursive temple]

BfV pr was poop

[tender narwhal]

yes I do live under a rock

[empty topaz]

idk, it's like Vigor lol, nothing special, nothing crazy.

[velvet kayak]

The game was good though

[tender narwhal]

idk what vigor is either lmao

[tight prism]

It’s the latest extraction shoote r

[copper dew]

Wsg yall

[cursive temple]

I hated it my least played bf game

[velvet kayak]

My favourite

[empty topaz]

it's an extraction shooter that was made from the Devs of DayZ (Bohemia)

[austere lily]

Bf1 was best

[cursive temple]

Content was atrocious

[tender narwhal]

this is the first battlefield I've bought (played 3 but only on friends' system) but every battlefield launch since 4 I've heard nothing but how awful the game is, then years later all I hear is how much better than game was than the current one lmao

I think nobody hates BF as much as BF players

[tender narwhal]

extraction shooters 🤮

[velvet kayak]

Best gameplay

[cursive temple]

Embark is ex dice?

[austere lily]

It’s people wanting the best from it and get blinded by what ifs

[empty topaz]

yeah, i could sum up Arc Raider's just by saying Extraction Shooter lol

[tender narwhal]

there's no accounting for taste

fortnite has 5 gorillion players but I couldn't possibly be less interested 🤷‍♂️

yeah but it's a BR which is lame and dumb so no surprise there

[empty topaz]

40k average isn't dead at all for a BF title. and Arc Raider's isn't a BF title.

[tender narwhal]

no it isn't

[empty topaz]

No it isn't. i have plenty of games without bots, and when they do add bots, the bots get taken out and replaced with real people...

[cursive temple]

Because that's how they're matchmaking works. Not because Lack of players

[empty topaz]

i didn't say that at all. don't gaslight lmao

[tight prism]

Have never had a bot match that wasn’t casual breakthrough

[tender narwhal]

are you in 🦘straya?

[tall zinc]

lol people think theres some company rivalry, wait till they hear some integrations which exist on this server was made by a embark individual

[velvet kayak]

Lucky you

[cursive temple]

Are you french?

[tender narwhal]

my condolences, hope you get well soon

[empty topaz]

Right? everyone thought Helldivers was rivaling ODST until they finally added the crossover packs

[cursive temple]

Ok so you are dutch

[tender narwhal]

not the swamp germans 😭

[cursive temple]

Yup 😔

[tender narwhal]

viel gluck

[dire harbor]

new DMR is kinda dope, you can beam at mid range

[inner swan]

Just leaving this here before I wrap up tonight, we got updated Season 1 stats, if anybody is nosy on how they were doing! https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/player-stats

[tender narwhal]

how do you have it already

[fallen fox]

40k average on pc is the most successful bf has been in 5 years

[empty topaz]

i think even 10 years lol

[dire harbor]

bro I care

[astral cape]

Day 3 and I still haven't received my Battle Pass Season 2 (EA app problem at release), which is just embarrassing.w

[inner swan]

Oh lots of people care, similar to how you care about the air radar!

[fallen fox]

2016 is bf1

[dire harbor]

BF2 was the best BF ever

[inner swan]

Aye, aye, Captain.

[empty topaz]

yeah but i don't think even BF1 had a straight average of 40k players... like it fluctuated a LOT

[slender epoch]

i already know my stats are buns. half the time i have the worse teammates conceived and im supposed to accept that

[tight prism]

Thanks for the new stats and the reminder of my poor 1.2kd 😂

[cursive temple]

ACHIEVEMENTS
Feats worth celebrating, because they are only in Battlefield.
Armed soldiers ride a golf cart while others run and fire weapons during an active combat scene on grassy terrain.
1 ROAD KILLS WITH GOLF CART nice

[sturdy spindle]

when they buffing vcr

[tender narwhal]

as soon as DVD dies out

[fallen fox]

1.79💔

[tight prism]

If your vcr doesn’t work, blow in it

[empty topaz]

mine chews up the tape

[cursive temple]

Everything above 1kd is 👍🏻

No you just lack skill

[last moat]

Closed weapon hardcore 24/7 contaminated 7YU6Y

[kindred copper]

No they're literally slower and harder to maneuver

[tacit elm]

So, does 50 blue laser and ribbed stubby help accuracy?

[cursive temple]

Yes try it

[cursive temple]

Good

[tight prism]

Hip fire accuracy. Not enough ads accuracy to be worth the price(laser)

[tacit elm]

rn I'm running long supp, extended/heavy extended barrel, ribbed stubby and 36 rounds mag on pretty much all my guns and so I was wondering if I should sacrifice this setup for blue laser + ribbed

[tight prism]

You do a lot of hip firing? Otherwise my opinion only laser you need is the red or 5mw green

[tacit elm]

I mostly ADS but I sometimes do hipfire in cqb

[tight prism]

I think the rest of your attachments are excellent build and prioritize over an expensive laser. If you wanted to sacrifice anything I would use a smaller magazine. 30 fast mag is enough typically. But depends on the user playstyle

[tender narwhal]

I'm gradually abandoning lasers entirely

[tight prism]

I always spend points on suppressor, extended barrel and ribbed/slim angled first. Put the rest into optic of choice and then laser or magazine with what’s left. I don’t play a lot of cqb though and in those smaller maps modes you don’t really need to worry about stealth so the expensive laser and hip fire can be an advantage worth giving up suppressor etc for

[kindred copper]

Wym good😭

[sturdy spindle]

wdym u dont need to worry about stealth in cqb

how small do u think those maps are

[tight prism]

Run and gun in tdm you really only need flash hider or standard suppressor

[charred rose]

Lasers fun tho

[sturdy spindle]

its the same exact maps as any big mode

u still wanna be covered 20m away

[river ice]

Bring recoil back

[tight prism]

Flash hider is what 15m?

Suppressors are 54 or whatever after update? I know they changed them both. I think flash hider might be 21m now

[brisk lily]

is there anywhere you can leave feedback about the new patch

[sturdy spindle]

what

[charred rose]

battlefield

[balmy sinew]

Ah hell nah 🏃‍♀️ 🗣️

[tight prism]

Patch notes. Mini map spotting increased to 21m using suppressed weapon. Unsuppresed nerfed to 54m

[sturdy spindle]

yea so still no reason not to run long suppressor

[cursive temple]

It's not that bad

[tight prism]

I said flash hider or standard

[sturdy spindle]

but y would u ever run those over long

[kindred copper]

I was wrong they nerfed apache too

[tight prism]

I personally wouldn’t. Those are the only option if you want an expensive laser though

I only use red lasers so I have a long/light on everything

[feral minnow]

qbz was so goated idk what happened today

its not so goated rn💔

[tight prism]

It was nerfed

[feral minnow]

i was on a crazy run w that first 2 days

[sturdy spindle]

what was goated about the qbz

[feral minnow]

idk what to use now

[sturdy spindle]

wasnt qbz buffed

[feral minnow]

the control and hit reg felt so good but its not hittin the same today

chat is grt the move

[tight prism]

Yes I lied it was buffed

[novel oriole]

M433 smacking pretty good for me anyways

[sturdy spindle]

hell nawl why u hate urself that bad

[tight prism]

They reduced qbz recoil

[feral minnow]

i see some people gas it then i get the urge to feel that peak the reason i force myself with tr7

i kinda force myself to try these and get that peak movement

[brisk lily]

is there like a survey or something you can fill out

[sturdy spindle]

delusional ppl

[feral minnow]

hows vcr goin for u

is it the move

[sturdy spindle]

it is the best bad recoil gun

[feral minnow]

so much and i was abusin that until today idk what happened i mean i only played a few

[feral minnow]

worse than tr7?

[unborn jay]

Can you unlock the VRC by ranking the weapon up in REDSEC and unlocking the weapon kit at rank 10?

[sturdy spindle]

no

[haughty badge]

There are some invisible walls on the new map...

[feral minnow]

show clips

[sturdy spindle]

no clips yet

[atomic wagon]

Are there any mods or can I make a support ticket?

[feral minnow]

we wait

[sturdy spindle]

[thin laurel]

Why does it say requires online access for multiplayer even though it worked perfectly during season 1?

[sand elbow]

has anyone gotten Joystick to work in BF6?

[sudden heron]

Apparently defending the objective and getting kills is classed as "inactivity" 😒

[feral minnow]

honestly would depend which objective

if your like super close to the base camping in one thats kinda lazy

[feral minnow]

it always required online access brochancho

[elfin wraith]

Idk what if people keep sneaking onto it

[umbral rune]

Guys

My problem is when I go to aim on someone

my aim goes a bit pass them and so as I'm bringing it back I pass them again

Is that due to high sensitivity or too low?

I feel like if I bring it down I'm not fast enough, but then it goes a bit too fast still if I turn it up

I had to turn down my aim assist but I wonder if aim assist slowdown would help in this scenario?

[worldly trail]

holy cow the netcode has gotten worse, somehow

[tight prism]

Sounds like high sensitivity issue. And why turn down aim assist? It’s free aimbot lol

[worldly trail]

several times got hitmarker on guy and he had 100% health

[split vine]

FR. Even 2042 had great PR before launch. People responsible for trailers at DICE are the only department that delivers bangers every single time.

Well, aside bf v maybe

Bought and had a lot of fun in solo/coop, still play from time to time

[past jasper]

you have unlocked the best gun in the game i see

[worldly trail]

who cares if he had fun

[empty topaz]

A lot of people bought 2042 at launch thinking it was great, then reality set in after they realised they couldn't get a refund, then a month later it was in the $10 bin at Gamestop

[worldly trail]

or not, lol if he did that's a good thing

[past jasper]

i still like 2042 lol

2042 vehicle gameplay is still miles better than bf6

[split vine]

Why is this dude so hostile? I mean, bf2042 objectively sucks compared to other titles, but I found my niche in the game that clicked. Didn't have fun in MP.

[worldly trail]

Imagine hating on someone for having fun with something they enjoy

cool guy you are

[past jasper]

literally just ignore the troll and move on lol

[worldly trail]

goofy dude

[split vine]

Yep, added to ignored, just reallized it's a troll

[worldly trail]

that was a dumb comeback lol

"I'm not savvy enough to come up with an actual insult anymore"

[pale narwhal]

Is there like an increase in cheaters and hackers, just a general question?

[worldly trail]

"I realized I'm a hater, so I threw out a criminal's name as a comeback,"

FOH

[past jasper]

no

at least in my gameplay experience, i have yet to meet one in mp

[empty topaz]

nahh lol, i think 2042 was changing things too quickly, every map was the size of Warzone (or at least felt like it) plus the movement speed was cranked wayyyy up lol

[balmy yacht]

so is bf6 tbf. very low skill playerbase overall

[past jasper]

movement speed was actually not that fast lol

compared to bf4 with perk active

the traversal was slightly faster and standard run was slightly slower iirc

[past jasper]

battlefield in general is very casual facing

[split vine]

Nothing wrong with being low skilled 🙂
Don't have to be Michael Jordan to play bball

[balmy yacht]

i know i hate it 😭 shit gives me no satisfaction

[past jasper]

then go play actual competitive fps lol

[balmy yacht]

only good ones are cs and val and i dont like them. marathon should fix that but i have 3 weeks to kill

[past jasper]

marathon isnt really that competitive also an entire different genre

[lethal radish]

I miss BF4

[balmy yacht]

god i wish cod was good

[empty topaz]

tactical sprint made it the fastest sprint in the series

[split vine]

Gauntlet should have ranked, wasted opportunity

[past jasper]

good thing cod isnt competitive either

[past jasper]

not by that far though

[balmy yacht]

yeah not in the true sense but atleast there arent cheesy checkmate things like tanks, rpgs, etc like in every other casual shooter. marathons just not comp bc of multiteam rng and no "winning" against other teams

[balmy yacht]

ranked is

[empty topaz]

But not as consistent as BF6 playerbase, even from BF4's launch

[past jasper]

but the thing is cod gameplay design by itself isnt competitive to begin with, throwing ranked doesnt magically make a game competitive

[balmy yacht]

highguard couldve scratched my comp itch but

[marble kite]

Lol at least it ain't BF2042

[empty topaz]

700k Average doesn't stiick for BF games... not at all bud. the fact that its at a consistent 40k for this many months is great

[balmy yacht]

ranked removes all the casual cheese. unless you mean bc of AA

[past jasper]

if you dont want vehicles in your shooter then bf isnt for you lmao

[balmy yacht]

i mean it could be if we could ever get official infantry only playlists. portal had some live ones on launch but its dead now

[past jasper]

cod have obscene amount of aim assist, and it also have a good amount of broken weapons

[past jasper]

bf by itself advertises as combined arms gameplay

[empty topaz]

it's not realistic for a game like BF to hold the same amount of players as launch consistantly.

[balmy yacht]

yes im aware but yet we have dom/koth/tdm, so theyre willing to deviate

[regal trail]

unfortunately true, i feel like a lot of BF hype comes from social media clips but that fades pretty fast tbh

[past jasper]

you have to realize that you are talking to a brick wall that doesnt do good faith arguments

[past jasper]

you are never gonna have a hyped game thats gonna hold launch numbers ever lol

[past jasper]

the small modes are never the main focus

[balmy yacht]

even slop raiders is seeing its player count drop (rightfully so imo)

[sudden heron]

It was the front objective sector 2 for that one mountain range map where people love camping in the hills cant remember the name, I was moving between cover where I could see anyone coming from the capped objective behind us and the front.

[empty topaz]

sounds like you're the only one having coping problems lol. 90% loss since launch isn't a bad thing, it's expected.

[past jasper]

my dude literally ignore the troll and move on

[regal trail]

yea cause the only thing carrying arc raiders is PVE lobbies and prox chat and them releasing a map every 4 months isnt gonna work out + all of the cheaters lol

[balmy yacht]

bro must be edging to all this attention his trolling is getting

[past jasper]

unless he is your entertainment for the hour then go for it

[lethal radish]

The thing is games have changed from what we used to like, BF4 was slower didn't need alot of skill to enjoy it, it had great well thought out maps, with tons of hidden secrets to them all. Lots of Easter eggs like the BF2 emblem under Shanghai. But games back rhen didn't have all these game changing updates and new content every month. We had the what 5-6 DLCs and everyone had to get used to the weapon balance even if it was bad. But not they try to make it so perfect that it's just not the same

[empty topaz]

I already called you out earlier and you said nothing back lol. you compared BF6 to Arc Raider's which isn't even in the same category lol. go cope harder

[balmy yacht]

yeah it really has the worst pvp in the industry lol. the karma matchmaking is just gross too

[tight prism]

The guy only comes in here to complain about air radar and harass others. Block him

[regal trail]

bf4 definitely wasnt slower, the problem with bf6 is that there is no depth to the gameplay + most of the maps are bad

[velvet sable]

Iirc some ridiculous proportion of those 700k have under an hour of playtime

Or are less than level 10

[past jasper]

he was blocked forever ago for me lol

[empty topaz]

Redsec is shit lol, no one is debating that.

[slender epoch]

content drip and matchmaking are a heavy factor in player diminishment

arc and bf6 can coexist

[regal trail]

yeah, the pvp is just terrible, no depth and the itemization is bad too, gonna check out marathon for hopefully something good

[tight prism]

Making numbers up

[fallen fox]

are you?

[past jasper]

i mean the community refused any depth of gameplay by asking to nerf movement, buff recoils, and any mode of skill differentiation lol

[past jasper]

marathon is gonna be a lot more competitive focused

[tight prism]

Steam shows the numbers. Can you prove how many are REDSEC and mp? Nope

[regal trail]

because the community is bad at the game and they do not know what is good for the game because they lack the understanding of the game because they are bad at it

[past jasper]

idk what is released so far and what can i say regarding marathon so im gonna keep my mouth shut regarding that game lol

[past jasper]

i mean thats what you get for pandering to the 90% of the playerbase

it makes you money for sure though

[tight prism]

Meaningless it’s still a top 12 in daily numbers. And as typical for people who complain about dead game you just blatantly ignore every other platforms player count inclusion 😂

[regal trail]

just isnt good long term because then eventually everyone sees the real issues, but 90% of the playerbase doesnt know what actually is the issue so they just say random stuff that later gets implemented, but it doesnt fix anything

idk why u guys are still replying to this guy, clearly trolling and just wants attention

[velvet sable]

So only 45% of steam players have reached level 9

[empty topaz]

no tf it isn't lmao, Redsec and Steam don't share the same Steam Charts. 2 seperate games, you can just access Redsec from BF6 main menu. it's literally it's own executable

[sudden heron]

Do concealed res count as smoke assists?

[past jasper]

yes

[tired flower]

Nope

[past jasper]

i dont know the exact quote but in general majority of the playerbase dont know what they want

[regal trail]

like idk why dice is touching the movement when we have issues like the visibility being terrible, and spotting as well

[empty topaz]

that's because it's not being updated, the people who own Redsec steam charts don't care about it enough to update it

[past jasper]

because its the main complaint of the community

even though nerfing it does exactly nothing for the amount of times the 90% of the playerbase being killed

[empty topaz]

no it isn't because BF6 and Redsec are 2 completely different executables.

[regal trail]

yea like using the movement got you killed either way because of the penalites but people like to cope

[empty topaz]

they aren't. plus you're forgetting that PC players have crossplay on

[past jasper]

movement is literally only used to move faster towards people

[velvet sable]

I think steam counts redsec as a bf6 dlc

[regal trail]

any competent player would insta melt you but people cant hit shots for shit lol

[velvet sable]

https://steamdb.info/app/3028330/

[tight prism]

Have never had a bot match outside casual

[past jasper]

and very barely if ever gives kills that otherwise wouldnt hit

[tight prism]

Try living in a superior location

[velvet sable]

With cross play off I get bots in UK, Xbox. Sadly.

[crimson garden]

Penguin give big thanks to BF6 for nice matches over here today! Penguin going off now, see you later friends! 😃 🚀

[slender epoch]

redsec shouldn’t have even been a thing too many choices affected the main game negatively
bf needs its classes redone bullet velo needs to get nerfed and vehicles need heavy focus aswell

[brisk lily]

They're different store items but the playtime recorded goes to BF6, you can check redsecs app id (3348420) and you'll see it technically has zero players since they all fall under bf6's appid (2807960) when it's running

[velvet sable]

I think that's more because cross play off is a tiny population

I also suspect there's something borked with matchmaking

[empty topaz]

europe servers are shit lmao

[velvet sable]

Sounds like sbmm

[slender epoch]

matchmaking was a mistake it tries to hard to make me have a .500

[velvet sable]

Probably

[empty topaz]

nahhhh lol. you have people with the worst ping joining you 😅 i don't even wanna hear it.

[velvet sable]

You're just so good the game can't find players in your skill bracket

So, bots

[tight prism]

More likely the opposite

[slender epoch]

ya because redsec still has yet to be updated

it’s been vanilla

[tight prism]

My kd is positive but harass away

[slender epoch]

sit in a tank get a kd increase

[tight prism]

I don’t need to prove shit to a troll sorry

[empty topaz]

Buddy is on Europe servers wondering why he's getting bots... lmao. Dea =d game for you is still a flourishing game for many others. EA already got your money, you think they care that you call it a dead game?

[regal trail]

EU is more popular for BF i'm pretty sure, but I'm in NA and i dont get bots at all so idk

[onyx stratus]

low IQ take lol

[regal trail]

did he get banned lol

[tight prism]

Oh look mods are deleting his msssages

[regal trail]

nah probably just got timed out

[tight prism]

No he’s banned

[slender epoch]

game is fine yall hopefully dice pulls a bf4 180 miracle update

[regal trail]

oh yea nvm i thought he still had roles but hes not even in the server anymore lol

[slender epoch]

that’s wat it needs

[feral minnow]

i mean if your helpin the team then your helpin the team

[tight prism]

Been trying to get rid of him for weeks. Bout time

[slender epoch]

it needs content. desperately

[feral minnow]

lucky guys bro try asia sometime

[slender epoch]

otherwise have a few hours a week of fun w it and go on with life lol

[empty topaz]

It’s an active region, but it’s also a mess. You’ve got people connecting from Spain, Paris, Italy, the UK… and then you’ve also got Morocco, South Africa, Turkey, Brazil jumping in. The server stays populated, sure, but the ping spread is all over the place and the netcode has to juggle everyone at once, so the whole lobby ends up feeling sloppy even if your own ping is fine.

[tight prism]

Disregard the reaction I don’t know how I put that there lol

Apparently double tap a message puts reaction emoji first from a list lol. I removed it

[crimson garden]

What happened friend? 😮 Penguin wonder if it was a regular chatter or newcomer? 🎣 Just in case it's someone Penguin might know or not, wasn't paying attention to chat

[empty topaz]

just a troll lol

[crimson garden]

Alright friend, that's all Penguin needed to know! Trolls be gone 😃 And mods protect chat = cool 🛡️ 😎

[tight prism]

Fix air radar was in here harasssing and trolling everyone

[empty topaz]

i had a game yesterday where 15 people left 😭 people really don't like dying

[tight prism]

Mp or REDSEC?

Those are the people padding their kd lol

Quit when die once or don’t get a vehicle or team is losing

[empty topaz]

i don't play Redsec... i can't stand Redsec in all honesty

[tight prism]

I played gauntlet once and never again l

[abstract nexus]

Gauntlet peak

If only they'd make gauntlet missions on other maps

[slender epoch]

it’s not dying . it’s games being either i get steam rolled or other team gets steam rolled

[abstract nexus]

Or other modes on the redsec map

[slender epoch]

getting steam rolled isn’t fun i’ll shut the game off right there soon as i see recon randy in my sq not moving or even sniping good going 2-11 😭

[empty topaz]

i made a joke that they should do something like Call of Duty's Gulag but instead of a Gulag make it Valhalla and you have to fight another enemy team in Valhalla (and win) to respawn.

[sudden heron]

According to the game runnin between 2 cover line of sight areas of your last point gettin kills popping smoke to res, and possibly sitting no more than 20s at most in one spot to regen and resupply smokes is considered inactivity

[slender epoch]

oh that’s another thing only getting 5s to afk otherwise you get kicked

[empty topaz]

I play as Support these days so i can see where teammates go down and i can sneak up behind enemies to steal their dogtag lmaoooo

[sudden heron]

Unless you've set-up a tent an campfire on a rooftop or hills with your sniper contributing nothin but spot assists

[slender epoch]

i’m guaranteed to get a few of those guys on my sq per nite i play

[tribal zodiac]

Its like 3 minutes, aka not enough

[slender epoch]

not even a break after the matches end 😭

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah if you need to use the bathroom, you need to get up literally the second your match ends

You might be back in time to not get kicked in tbe next one

[sudden heron]

I mean if they're doin that but also getting rid of mines for our tank and beacons with their drone i don't mind it then

[tight prism]

I actually found the gameplay of gauntlet fun but you definitely need a coordinated squad and none of my friends play this game so I never bothered to play it further

[slender epoch]

it’s rarely that i’m paying attention to wat they doing half the time it’s missing shots 😭😂

i used to main recon on prev games becuase of the beacon

[sturdy spindle]

when we getting pre game lobby

and killcams

[sudden heron]

I main support and engi depending on the map

[tribal zodiac]

I love that the average sniper on this game is so bad that glints dont scare me

[sturdy spindle]

we have to codify tf out of bf6 so it will survive

[tribal zodiac]

Even if im in an open field

Literally just dont stand still

[slender epoch]

i have to work on support i get carried away with assault and engi lately

[sturdy spindle]

i feel so weak without my ladder