battlefield-6

[green plover]

is it? it looks like it's just not there for me https://i.imgur.com/EuGEP6T.png

[tight prism]

PC players should play against only PC players and Xbox PS play together

[livid raptor]

Hipfire TR7 go brrr

[tight prism]

Oof

[rich torrent]

You realise console supports mnk right?

[tight prism]

My new fav build

[quartz karma]

see are you trolling lol

[cedar briar]

I can't see the link but there is an arrow on the right to move the tiles

[tight prism]

Lmaoooooo

[livid raptor]

Also, is it just me or does the revamped SGX feel kinda floaty?

[green plover]

the main menu only lists bulletin, redsec, community, training grounds and campaign. no multiplayer

[cedar briar]

https://postimg.cc/WFTjphHZ

[green plover]

erm ok then the main menu seems to be broken for me? lol

[cedar briar]

multiplayer should have custom search, contaminated warfare and casual breakthrough as the first options, use the arrow to change it

[leaden glen]

Does anyone know when golmud is coming out

[cedar briar]

probably mid season

[rich torrent]

Season 3 or later.

[leaden glen]

Damnnnnn okay

[next garden]

Are EA servers down?

[leaden glen]

No I’m in a game right now

[livid raptor]

I had servers crash on me a few minutes ago

I’m thinking they have unexpected server load from downloads and players

[hearty kelp]

why did dice never bother to remove the anti air protecting vehicles from getting killed by overextension

helis and jets can 100% of the time run to spawn to avoid a lockon when they have no flares and they'll never get touched

that's my breaking point for this game, i uninstalled today. major issues cease to be fixed

i'm not waiting 3 fucking months for another patch

[next garden]

Im unable to connect online at the moment. 🫠

[rich torrent]

This isn't an issue though, it's designed that way.

[languid mural]

yea idk why you want to argue about movement when your preferred experience entails an AI that features none of it

[devout sedge]

Contaminated. Very very good map

[onyx carbon]

i dont think he does lol

[hearty kelp]

this IS an issue particularly when it saves people from their own mistakes guaranteed when it shouldn't

[devout sedge]

So Far I'm enjoying S2. Should've been one more map though

[livid raptor]

Now if only they can rework Sobek

[hearty kelp]

it should only apply when you initially spawn in the vehicle, it should never apply if you re-enter it

[languid mural]

you do realize that most of the maps can lock-on from spawn and allow you to be spawn camped even despite the AA, and also the fact that its unreliable and a missile can still hit you in spite of it

[rich torrent]

This.

[worthy cave]

Bro, I had 1 crash every 3-4 hours or so before - now I can't even click the weapon icon to change guns when you start a match. I literally can't change guns or skins while in a match or it crashes with that AMD error.

[hearty kelp]

it absolutely cannot hit you if it's a lockon, this is false

if it's a dumbfire, yes

[languid mural]

it absolutely can if its a lock-on

[hearty kelp]

send a video right now

[languid mural]

Ive died several times on eastwood due to the AA not working

[rich torrent]

Can confirm ^

[languid mural]

I was literally camping the thing, Ill see if I have a clip on hand, if not Ill farm it in a few days

[hearty kelp]

that's great, lmk when you do

[topaz plinth]

why are u getting pressed when im trolling gng

[rich torrent]

Base AA doesn't always work and flares also don't always stop a stinger.

[languid mural]

good to know, cuz there are people that genuinely say this and theyre impossible to get through

[topaz plinth]

I have more experience than you in fps games yet im vibing rn 💔

[hearty kelp]

this isn't "good game design", it's straight rewarding people for doing gun runs on 8 guys, flaring, and then running to spawn in the open air because they know it's more effective and easier than actually taking cover behind buildings and below hills

[topaz plinth]

e cry

[rich torrent]

The maps are small enough to lock someone from spawn to spawn, explain how that would be good without it.

[sturdy spindle]

hey man they gonna mute u for 2 months this time

[topaz plinth]

NOOOOOO

[viscid nexus]

when will the chatbug on pc will be fixed ? i wanna communicate again

[topaz plinth]

hey ea mods... pls no dont mute me

[hearty kelp]

almost every single map has an aspect of it that allows you to block missiles, sobek has buildings, mirak has the river to go below, liberation peak has the giant mountains

[rich torrent]

Spawn to spawn, meaning spawn camping.

Again, explain how that is good.

[hearty kelp]

great refutation of my point, you completely ignored the aspect of taking cover

[languid mural]

sobek doesnt have an airbase to repair (idk if they fixed it now), mirak is impossible to go anywhere thats not behind the 2 buildings, liberation peak is the only map mentioned that you can somewhat use the terrain to be effective

[rich torrent]

What cover does spawn have broski

[hearty kelp]

also, you can just get 30mm'd in your spawn by the attack heli, and now the bird

[languid mural]

below radar is not a thing when RPGs travel 100m/s

[safe brook]

I still think BF6 has the worst iteration of Breakthrough and its not even close

[dawn hare]

Is the limited time event out yet

[mint folio]

Hmm where can i report bugs?

[dawn hare]

Also I like the new map

[hearty kelp]

spawn aa does NOTHING to stop that, the damage is seldom enough to bring you to half before you can weave out of there after ruining whoever your target is

[hearty kelp]

again, great refutation, i listed the maps and the cover they have that you can sit behind to dodge missiles

[languid mural]

yes but at least the AA vehicle camping u from enemy spawn has like 20% chance only to hit

[vast flower]

So are they ever going to lower the bullet velocities in this game or increase spread and make it like bf4

[jolly grail]

Blurry battlepass rewards screen anyone els?

[rich torrent]

It stops you from getting locked on from spawn to spawn, again - what I'm saying.

[hearty kelp]

there's such a thing as breaking the lock or forcing the missile to hit the building/ground

[languid mural]

Ive replied to you, I dont see why youre ignoring it

[pure elk]

No. Why would they make a new game like an old game

[rich torrent]

Essentially all maps allow an instant lock on from spawn to spawn when you spawn in, there is no cover in spawn to stop this.

Stop acting like cover in the map is relevant to what I'm talking about.

[next garden]

Can’t ever test the new season before needing to get ready for work. Unable to log into EA servers

[hearty kelp]

yep, and it still does nothing to the two vehicles that are now amazing for spawn camping when a heli gunner can just 30mm you

[hearty kelp]

cover is relevant when it stops the death TO the lockon, but keep dodging it i guess

[rich torrent]

Again, not the point I'm making.

[safe brook]

Probably not due to redsec. Despite it being a failure they think it's going to make them money

[vast flower]

Bc the old game was significantly better

[rich torrent]

There is no cover in spawn, is reading that hard?

[pure elk]

Devs disagree

[hearty kelp]

false and subjective

[languid mural]

???

[vast flower]

Irrelevant

[rich torrent]

You can lock onto people freely from spawn to spawn on all maps essentially but go off.

[dapper adder]

Is the little bird on any other map than the new one?

[hearty kelp]

and yet you can block it with flares and by taking cover when you do spawn IF someone's doing it

[pure elk]

They listen to feedback and make their choices. Just because you disagree doesn’t mean they gonna change something

[plain belfry]

Season 2 feels the same shitshow, no one is playing this game and all the matches I join are filled with bots. The game is dead

[hearty kelp]

i really don't get the point you're trying to make here but i feel like you're babbling nonsense and not actually addressing it

[rich torrent]

What cover does Blackwell have in spawn exactly?

Oh right, none

[vast flower]

Most people agree so they should change it

[pure elk]

Turns crossplay on

[hearty kelp]

the hills both of them sit behind for one

[pure elk]

Source?

[rich torrent]

That's not spawn broski

[vast flower]

Look it up

[hearty kelp]

and of course you'd bring up the ONE map with minimal cover conveniently ignoring mirak, sobek and liberation peak, all of which have cover

[pure elk]

You made the claim it’s on you to prove it

[plain belfry]

its actually on, and guess what the real players are all using controllers

[hearty kelp]

the one outlier is the hill you're dying on, nice lol

[rich torrent]

IN SPAWN

[vast flower]

Look it up

[rich torrent]

I'm not talking about map cover

[pure elk]

So making stuff up got it

[hearty kelp]

yet the point still doesn't work because it's still obscured by the hill

[vast flower]

No go look it up

[pure elk]

Back up your claim with data. Burden of prove isn’t on me

[hearty kelp]

gl with whatever justification you have dude, you're not making any sense

[rich torrent]

Mirak has no spawn cover, Blackwell has none, Eastwood has none, no maps have SPAWN cover

[vast flower]

Just play the game there’s your data

[pure elk]

I have and see no issue with bullet velocity or bloom

[hearty kelp]

how does that factor into the idea that vehicles should be allowed to retreat back to spawn whenever they want when they make a clear mistake and are in danger of dying

[vast flower]

Then you prob only play cod

[hearty kelp]

spawn should not be a safezone for when you make a misplay

you cannot argue this

[rich torrent]

To reduce spawn killing, which is exactly my point

[pure elk]

Not accurate. Still making stuff up

[vast flower]

I’m not

[pure elk]

Then prove it

[hearty kelp]

which it doesn't do, because the majority of spawnkilling is just done with the attack heli b

[pure elk]

If you are going to speak for everyone bring data

[vast flower]

I don’t need to it’s common knowledge

[rich torrent]

"Reduce"

[lapis bloom]

they broke que again

[pure elk]

L

[real kraken]

very disapointed about new guns being buried very deep into the battlepass

[vast flower]

Mad?

[pure elk]

That you making shit up no

[hearty kelp]

30mms don't care about spawn protection, not sure if you realize that

[rich torrent]

"Reduce"

[vast flower]

I’m not just stating facts

[pure elk]

Opinions aren’t facts

[hearty kelp]

keep ignoring the point ig

[vast flower]

It’s not a opinion

[pure elk]

No data so yes it is

[rich torrent]

You're ignoring the point lmfao, spawn killing would be 10x worse without the base AA.

Hence why I said spawn doesn't have cover.

[placid wyvern]

Pride's a fragile thing

[vast flower]

Play the game there’s your data

[strong burrow]

Has it been explained how tournaments work in order to get the knocked out skin?

[hearty kelp]

i'm saying your points don't work because the spawn killing is primarily just done with sweaty vipers

[pure elk]

I have and don’t have the same problems so must be a skill issue on your part

[vast flower]

Mad?

[real kraken]

completed all my weeklys and i'm still 13 tiers away from unlocking just 1 of the 3 guns

[languid mural]

also even if the spawns supposedly have cover, literally the only two maps that have cover that allows you to play is liberation peak and manhattan bridge, and manhattan bridge is mostly because theres no AA on conquest
mirak valley cover is a building that allows you to hover a whole whooping 1 objective on the map, closest to your spawn so mostly uncontested anyway! sobek doesnt have an airbase and you still have like one building to get behind on, eastwoods only cover is the fact that you are allowed to be below radar somewhat close to the action and at this point you are obscured by trees
lib peaks cover is a mountain that splits the map in half and a valley thats good cover due to hardly being seen by infantry
the only map that allows you to retreat at any moment is manhattans bridge, where you also have rooftops that allow people to reduce the distance between you and the heli where hitting an rpg is pretty easy
without spawn AA you genuinely cannot leave spawn on 3/4 of the map

[rich torrent]

Because that's all that's left, without spawn AA then the spawn killing would be worse.

It's not a hard concept to understand.

[hearty kelp]

christ tldr not reading that

[languid mural]

tldr ur wrong

[vast flower]

Seems like you’re angry you are throwing insults out for no reason

[hearty kelp]

now, let's see if you ignore this point, do you agree or disagree that the spawn should be a safezone for vehicles that have ALREADY LEFT and are in danger of dying due to their own mistakes

[vast flower]

May report you honestly

[pure elk]

No just calling out trolling with no factual data to back up your lies

[pure elk]

Go for it

[hearty kelp]

you've been trying to be a part of a convo you're not invited to so i'm not gonna respond to it dw

[vast flower]

You can play the game or look up weapon stats between both games

[rich torrent]

Yes, you shouldn't be able to kill people in their spawn.

Does the system need work? Yes.

Is the system needed? Yes.

[languid mural]

sorry that Im trying to engage with your point whilst having a different opinion, you should really focus on the other guy

[pure elk]

They don’t exist or you would have no problem presenting them

[vast flower]

Or look at the player count dwindling down after a new content update comes out

[hearty kelp]

so NO, it should not be a get out of jail free card for players that made a misstep in their vehicle play, and they should instead properly die when they make said mistake e.g overextending

[pure elk]

What does people quitting have to do with bullet velocity? They are quitting because their is no content

[hearty kelp]

is that correct

[vast flower]

Weapon stats do exist though? Just look them up

[true mirage]

[rich torrent]

Flares are a lot shorter in BF6, the system is needed.

[hearty kelp]

lmfao you're not even gonna address the point

[pure elk]

There is no weapon stat that says everyone thinks bullet velocity is bad

[hearty kelp]

you're a brick wall, i'm done with you

[carmine oar]

so how badly did the rangefinder get nerfed

[languid mural]

dudes definiton of misplaying with an air vehicle is leaving spawn
I love this chat sometimes

[vast flower]

They quit bc the game lacks depth muzzle velocity and spread have a lot to do with that

[pure elk]

People don’t quit a game because their is no recoil lol

[hearty kelp]

literally not even on the same brainwave

[rich torrent]

There is no overextending because all the maps are smaller, any movement is an overextension

[vast flower]

They do bc the game gets boring

[true mirage]

[zinc mirage]

New map is great

[vast flower]

It’s like shooting basketball in a basketball hoop made for 5 year olds it’s fun when your 5 but when your older is pretty lame and boring

[rich torrent]

You've uninstalled due to a skill issue, keep thinking you're right though.

[pure elk]

Yes due to lack of content and shit maps.

[hearty kelp]

ragebait doesn't work when i'm better than you, nice try

[vast flower]

Maps feel like shit bc everyone can laser beam you from across the map with any gun bc of the high bullet velocity and lack of spread

[rich torrent]

It's not rage bait lmao.

Majority of complaints come from bad players.

[hearty kelp]

you refuse to acknowledge a game issue and you literally can't agree on one thing

[pure elk]

This is definitely skill related.

[pure elk]

^

[true mirage]

[vast flower]

Uh no it’s just a fact most guns in this game can sniper you from across the map with minimal effort

[hearty kelp]

i think he's spent too much time shining dice boots to actually admit there are problems with the game that don't affect him personally, but that's fine

can't change everyone's minds, oh well

[carmine oar]

so how badly did the rangefinder get nerfed

[crimson garden]

Penguin says your statement = true friend! Contaminated map = cool 😎 😃

[pure elk]

If you stand in one spot and don’t move. Try not being stationary. Much harder to get hit

[rich torrent]

Clearly unaware to how much I bag DICE in here lmfao.

[true mirage]

It’s trash

[pure elk]

Rangefinder is useless

[rich torrent]

Name one bad complaint from good players, I'll wait.

[vast flower]

No it’s pretty easy to hit moving targets as well bc the bullet velocity is fast

[quartz karma]

i dont think i know anyone who hates dices guts more than tow

[true mirage]

“” average size of BF6 map

Spawns and objectives are inflated and compressed

[vast flower]

How much money does ea pay these guys to defend the game

[carmine oar]

does the range finder zeroing if zoomed not work anymore?

[vast flower]

And can I apply defending bf6 for money is a pretty sweet deal

[true mirage]

The developers gotta be under his table

[placid wyvern]

It does, they just added a delay now.

[gloomy oracle]

dear lord season 2 pro is $35 CAD?

[carmine oar]

mines not working. it keeps zeroing to 1000m upon firing

[placid wyvern]

Are you looking at the sky or far away?

[carmine oar]

no im aiming at an enemy

[rich torrent]

This isn't a bad complaint nor one linked to good players.

[vast flower]

Bf6 maps are just rearranged versions of pearl market

[carmine oar]

im aiming at an enemy at like 400m, then im firing and its going to like 900m

[placid wyvern]

If it happens the moment you fire, maybe recoil is making you look far off?

[languid mural]

holy cope

[rich torrent]

Idk why anyone would buy it, it's a rip off.

And with their Ai use, no thanks.

[carmine oar]

that could be

[true mirage]

I am exhausted after playing 5 rounds since the objectives are so close

[languid mural]

it doesnt zero in at enemy, it zeroes in on whatevers behind them, so if theyre on your elevation or above you, you're zeroing in to the sky

[rich torrent]

It's not perfect but still all better than Golmud.

[carmine oar]

before the update you could set it up to have the range finder activate on trigger pull instantly

[languid mural]

oh and also its supposed to take like a second after this update so yeah Im not surprised if somethings up with that

its in the patch notes

[timber steppe]

I just hope they tone down with some particle effects

[languid mural]

Updated the Range Finder custom zeroing to not apply its effect instantly; it now requires a short delay before taking effect

[languid mural]

the infamous leaf blocking scope

[tribal umbra]

Its still super easy to use and it work on the person or an object ive tried both today

[languid mural]

yeah Im not having any issues but the person inquiring might

[tribal umbra]

I didnt like the new launcher at first but now imo its op asf at least if u have to patience to wait out a flare little sad its only aa again tho without a painted target

[languid mural]

also this, with poor visibility ure required to react to almost anything that moves and with random particles it gets annoying

[hallow geode]

Bruh the audacity to put a 323 skin in the battlepass..... a skin for a character you have to pay for 😐

I thought they gave us the character itself in the battelpass for a split second

[tribal umbra]

Meh do skins even matter in battlefield?

[hallow geode]

I don't care about skins. I'm talking about gating a character with their own voice and dialogue behind a paywall

[tribal umbra]

Imma be real idc about thay either bf to me is about the combat

[quartz karma]

which they ruined 💀

[vast flower]

lol

[split lake]

God. If this is what Dice expects us to be hyped about for a map then this design team really does need to be fired. Expecting us to be so happy about their “240 improvements” they wanted us to notice so bad they made it bold on the announcement when they are basic things that should have came mid season 1? Christ.

[tribal umbra]

I dont see how lack of content for sure but combat is fine

[placid wyvern]

My gamesir pro just arrived

[hallow geode]

Immersion is a big part of battlefield for me. Missing out on characters with additional voices/dialogue is lame to me. It just highlights how far we fell from games like BF4 where it randomized tons of characters with plenty of unique dialogue and voices. This game is lacking in that. Putting it behind a paywall is dumb.

[tribal umbra]

I mean to each thwir own long as the guns look good and the people look like soldiers i could care less about nitty gritty details ur not gonna see them.in combat anyway

[rapid urchin]

The new map is really good, really well made

Glad to see triple A titles are incapable of making updates without glitches, my arms kept dissapearing on my player model lol

[stable haven]

new map is good, but so bad for breakthrough lmao. Good conquest/escalation map, though

[rapid urchin]

just played it on breakthrough it wasnt terrible

[cloud flame]

I must be missing something, I can't find if others are having the same issue..I cant play the map?

[rapid urchin]

feels like it offers a lot of areas of the map that are going to be your downfall as attackers, but a lot of flanks

[stable haven]

I won exactly once which was really nice, at least. Every other game people seem to have problems with the first objective

[olive coral]

I keep hearing attacker side on the new map is horrible

[stable haven]

DICE seems to commonly make a theme where the first attacker objective is 99% impossible

[rapid urchin]

ive only played it once so far, and we won

for breakthrough

and I can see how the first one feels really hard to take because when DICE starts one team on elevation they like to give the other team a lot of cover options. Makes sense but it doesn't work when the high ground is forced to come to the cover

[stable haven]

defenders can see everywhere. Attackers have no element of surprise

[upbeat grove]

smoke >.>

[rapid urchin]

I used a lot of smoke for our win

[stable haven]

I can only throw so many smokes my dude

[upbeat grove]

throw down ammo bag

[rapid urchin]

gotta smoke, cover, resupply

and repeat til you get results

[split lake]

Almost like they keep making the same mistake over and over. In a real work environment that would result in termination.

[stable haven]

yeah I'm literally the only medic smoking this round

[upbeat grove]

yeah, well, it happens to all of us..

[rapid urchin]

I don't think that's an issue of the map that's an issue for the players

[stable haven]

exactly. The map itself is great in conquest, though

no I think the devs just don't play their own game

[upbeat grove]

stay in spawn and lay on your belly then

[olive coral]

Gimme a break😂

[rapid urchin]

I just don't think Devs should dumb down the maps because teams don't know what smokes are

[split lake]

Do you make any products for your job?

[stable haven]

attackers have no good flanking routes in the first part of the new map

[upbeat grove]

no

[rapid urchin]

Game has already very much been casualified compared to past titles

[upbeat grove]

don't need to dumb down anything..

look at where that concept has got us

[stable haven]

the devs could at least TRY to play their own maps...that would be helpful

[rapid urchin]

I wonder if they played it but used a lot of smokes during the tests

[upbeat grove]

i'm guessing you are the expert here?

[olive coral]

Surely they do test them lol

[rapid urchin]

I felt extremely useful with my medic role using my smokes and reviving

[tribal zodiac]

Art is subjective

[stable haven]

I went top score last round because I revived 50+ people and had so many smoke assists lol

[olive coral]

This

And yes games are an art form

[sullen geyser]

i bought the phanto edition pre release, but now i dont have access to the seasen 2 battle pass? anyone having the same issue?

[split lake]

It’s a live service game, none of this is “art”. It’s a product. And repeated mistakes by the same people in a reasonable workplace result in action being taken.

[rapid urchin]

Smoke has always been essential for modes like breakthrough I just feel like some people are just used to bad teammates who dont use them

[stable haven]

the good thing is that at least this map has a lot of colors. No dumb brown filter

[rapid urchin]

I got 3000 hours of BF4 metro, smoke is extremely important in that map. And guess what, people still dont use them

[olive coral]

Ignorant take

[whole minnow]

guys, anyone get a BUG when map not , tanks, everything stay lower graphics? XD
Like the GPU isn't loading the graphics, and other bug its the weapon is also becoming invisible?

[rapid urchin]

It's still art. Map design is art.

[olive coral]

It’s a live service game yeah but the rest is ignorant

[craggy stump]

Thats cuz only 1 class gets smoke in this game

[sullen geyser]

?

[stable haven]

I do wish more people could equip smoke. I could use help smoking objectives.......

[split lake]

Ok. You go to work tomorrow. Make a mistake. Then the next day another one. Continue to do so. See what your employer does. If the same mistakes happen repeatedly, they’ll be addressed.

[rapid urchin]

I did think during my play of the map on breakthrough, that all classes should get all the throwables. It makes no sense that we can't

[rapid urchin]

brother who do you think will replace them ? It's going to be AI. Do you want that?

[craggy stump]

I agree but this game has a lot of silly design choices

[stable haven]

bad company 2 had the best rush mode maps

[old crater]

The new Air-Defense Launcher is locked behind the battlepass, this is stupid

[sullen geyser]

i bought the phantom edition pre release, but now i dont have access to the seasen 2 battle pass? anyone having the same issue?

[devout sedge]

Done with week 1 challenges lol. They need to bring double xp back

[old crater]

The New contamination map sucks as its filled with campers and the Gas is disappointing

And the battle pass skins are uninteresting

[stable haven]

there's a version of the map without the gas though

[olive coral]

It’s not the same thing.

[old crater]

I know, however its still disappointing

[languid mural]

I dont think this is ignorant, I think its mostly insensible, as getting a good map is the same as having a good product, you dont just make it good

[upbeat grove]

i'm digging it, just like last season..

[stable haven]

I think this map is great, just...not in Breakthrough lmao

[split lake]

So…the map designers aren’t employees? 🤔 who have consistently made the same mistakes on multiple occasions?

[languid mural]

the maps are good or bad for reasons, they just dont have the insight to analyze and work on those

[tiny tangle]

Is the S2 battlepass free with EA Play Pro members?

[upbeat grove]

i'm one of those anti-redsec tho. but hey, if it encourages players to get the base game too. free is free for people

[wraith canopy]

Yea at least assault could have them imo since they are supposed to push forward lol

[upbeat grove]

even getting free stuff, people still complain

[craggy stump]

Honestly im a bit bummed by the size if the new map, but its honestly a pretty decent breakthrough experience imo

[languid mural]

Imma be real, I didnt like redsec for neutering some aspects from MP, but at this point I think they just got most of the dev team on the next battlefield and thats what Ill pin my cope on

[upbeat grove]

are there times when you are not real?

[stable haven]

wow our team just got the first objective ayyyyyyy

[languid mural]

yes there are times when I am absolutely out of this world

[upbeat grove]

be real all the time

fake ass

[craggy stump]

so did they replace the attack heli with the little bird on manhattan?

[wraith canopy]

Dunno, did they?

[languid mural]

Im never being fake, Im just like the engine

[craggy stump]

Dunno thats why im asking

[spring cove]

the new map is excellent in conquest, good in escalation and bleh in breakthrough (a mode I've consistently been disappointed by sadly). Breakthrough's weird in that imo the attackers, if people actually played to win instead of getting kills would be fine but people instead just try and snipe instead of pushing objective (and lose)

[olive coral]

It’s not the same thing. When art is concerned (which you must remember is subjective), you can’t always appeal to everyone. You do your best to but surely adjustments will be necessary once you get feedback. And what some say is a flaw or mistake, others may like. Then how do they correct it?

[wraith canopy]

Well i don't know either

[languid mural]

Im not sure but Ive heard they replaced the transport heli

[upbeat grove]

go see then come tell us

[craggy stump]

Nah waiting for season 3

[stable haven]

season 3 might be okay, hopefully better than this trash season

[upbeat grove]

h8er t8ter

[craggy stump]

No, this season just didnt make the right calls for gunplay imo

[olive coral]

But you expect it to be perfect the first time out like this is some sort of food product that will poison people if the factory worker makes a mistake.

[craggy stump]

making guns easier to use at range is just such an oddball move from dice

[abstract nexus]

That'd be insane ngl 💀

[eternal sentinel]

what do u guys think about light barrel vs heavy extended for the m123k? i run a stubby on it for ads, would more velocity be worth it

[craggy stump]

Hopefully they start making good calls throughout the season

[languid mural]

you also have to consider, it comes with a $70 price tag, so it is under scrutiny

[wraith canopy]

Ye it feels more like: here pilots, thats your open field to shred everyone xD

[modest jackal]

Even if the Recoil Buffs for most of the Guns are mostly minor.

[craggy stump]

the new map even though im disappointed by the size i think is actually pretty decent

[stable haven]

I agree, goodness forbid us players for criticising something we paid with our hard earned money

[languid mural]

no but look, you see, they reduced the recoil to make the gameplay more laser beamy because uhhhhh... clips on reddit showed that the guns are too hard to control! thats why we also gutted the movement

[spring cove]

the map feels bigger than it is because it's less of a linear grinder than a lot of vanilla was

[craggy stump]

Its more the idea of doing it, like why even adjust it to begin with even when minor, when its just not needed

[upbeat grove]

Never tried constructive criticism?

none of you have

[royal dock]

Hey so I just logged in to check out season 2 and I saw a message saying that I should have gotten back the bf points I spent on the bf pro path from a few weeks ago there's just no extra points on my account. Did anyone actually get their points back or is it bs?

[craggy stump]

Even if its the smallest most insignificant change, its still in the wrong direction for gameplay imo

[languid mural]

ye thats also why basically anything you see here or on any social media interacitons is negative, because people paid money for this and very few are satisfied with what they are getting

like the game is nice and all but then you get into the details that are not so good and u remember u paid the price tag on it

[carmine oar]

the contamination map is way too small

[modest jackal]

I mean, they accidentally forgot to buff the M277 and randomly nerfed the TR-7. So...

[brittle grove]

just got 15 revives in one match dogtag 🔥

[sullen geyser]

i bought the phantom edition pre release, but now i dont have access to the seasen 2 battle pass? anyone having the same issue?

[languid mural]

nice!

[stable haven]

in surveys if they ever give them out, which is pretty rare lol

[languid mural]

theres a lot of people like this, lemme pull up some forums link

[royal dock]

You need to buy bf pro again it's seasonal

[olive coral]

And rightly so, but it’s incredibly difficult to please everybody at once in this case.

[sullen geyser]

thx

[languid mural]

@sullen geyser look this

[spring cove]

"played 2000 hours, not enough content"

[olive coral]

Real

[modest jackal]

Well...even the best Games still has its haters.

[sullen geyser]

nope, it should be free for not having access on the first day they said

[craggy stump]

New map is too small but its definitely one of the better maps imo

Way better than the slop we got in season 1

[languid mural]

ye like I cant blame the battledads for posting their reddit clips of bad aim, because I understand that for people who do not want to put that much effort into a video game to enjoy it, it is simply not enjoyable to pay good money and then have a bad time

[royal dock]

Oh I wasn't aware didn't have any problems on day1

[eternal sentinel]

agreed but the movement nerf was the wrong direction without rebalancing ttk

[royal dock]

Any1 knows if the refund for bf pro already happened or not? I didn't get any coins

[dire harbor]

yo how is new map gang?

[olive coral]

All I’m talking about is that dude who said a bunch of people oughta be fired for making mistakes where map design is concerned but it’s too subjective to judge it that black and white. He’s comparing BF6 map designers to something along the lines of a warehouse worker

[royal dock]

But good and bad map design is black and white though

[eternal sentinel]

people are miserable on the internet

[stable haven]

really i thought the movement nerf was great

[olive coral]

No it absolutely isn’t lol if so then everybody would have the same opinions on every map.

[eternal sentinel]

nah its bad for the the sustainability of the game

[languid mural]

I dont think so, it encourages sitting somewhere camped even more than the fast ttk currently is

[crimson garden]

Penguin appreciate the fact Year Of The Horse challenges didn't require any specific modes such as BR or Gauntlet to complete 😃 It being open to any mode = cool! 😎 Big thanks to Battlefield Team for fixing 🔧

[olive coral]

For sure

[royal dock]

Except it is a bad map is a bad map and a good one is a good one

[eternal sentinel]

it rewards defensive and passive playstyles and overly punishes those who push and ptfo

[stable haven]

it's not thaaaat bad. I still push and assault as a point man

[olive coral]

What you think is a bad map might seem good to someone else. And vice versa. Very simple. Open your mind for a moment lol

[craggy stump]

the movement nerf was dumb especially when the ttk is like the fastest of any bf game

[languid mural]

but people can agree on most of the maps, there is subjectivity in some values but most of the maps have issues that are clear cut why they are negative

[royal dock]

That's called an opinion. And guess what an opinion can be wrong

[eternal sentinel]

this is what everyones missing. less movement will make ttk feel even faster

[abstract nexus]

If it was black and white people wouldn't like blackwell

[craggy stump]

But were supposably getting a ttk pass this season, so we can only hope

[olive coral]

Credibility out the window

[stable haven]

I don't even feel this less movement...it feels largely the same

[eternal sentinel]

blackwell is far from the worst map

[royal dock]

You don't seem to understand what youre talking about dude

[craggy stump]

I think its mostly on readability

[spring cove]

Sobek City and Blackwell Oilfields are the only maps that actively get a groan out of me tbh

[eternal sentinel]

sobek is rlly bad

[spring cove]

the rest are fine to good

[languid mural]

I do too, but the nerfs make going into rooms or getting into cover pretty bad, which doesnt help with pushing

[eternal sentinel]

also i dont get the map size obsession, idgaf as long as its a fun map

[stable haven]

hmmmm

[split lake]

Oh wow cool, attacker on BT where we don’t even get beyond the first zone. Watching the defenders LITERALLY walk into the out of bounds zones to kill us as we come up over the rocks only to drop back down to reset the timer. Yep. Peak map design right there. Allowing one team to use out of bounds areas to win.

[abstract nexus]

For me its just sobek ill actively tolerate blackfield oilwell but if I pull sobek I leave instantly

[stable haven]

new map or are you talking about a different one?

[abstract nexus]

I can see others do it too cause the matches player count tanks lol

[split lake]

The new one

[stable haven]

yeah the new one is absolutely horrible on breakthrough. They did not test this mode on this map at all

defenders have line of sight on EVERY SINGLE ANGLE imaginable, and no amount of smoke spam helps

[spring cove]

it's just rough, it's not good on any mode. Escalation is the least worst

[craggy stump]

I likes the first 2 sectors, the 3rd and 4th sector are garbage

[abstract nexus]

I think theyre all equally bad even in small modes ngl

[craggy stump]

Never even gotten to the final sector

[split lake]

Walking into an HQ zone should cause INSTANT death.

[modest jackal]

Breakthrough Sobek feels insanely difficult for Attackers on the Starting Point, but switches difficulty on the Final Point.

[abstract nexus]

Blackwell at least has one of the most fun (if incredibly bipolar) dominations

[stable haven]

I won final sector and it's a little difficult but doable

[languid mural]

like everyone can agree blackwell is a terrible map and everyone can stitch together the idea why is that, map design is not that subjective
people wouldnt also probably cry about "pls larger maps" if on the smaller ones there werent always 3 different directions you can be shot from

[olive coral]

I like Sobek and Blackwell breakthrough a lot tbh

[golden shell]

map size is important you dingus

[stable haven]

bait used to be believable

[abstract nexus]

Truth nuke ☢️

[abstract nexus]

🎣

[golden shell]

real

[olive coral]

Swear to god

[split lake]

The fact infantry and ground vehicles can just roll in and spawn camp into HQ zones on BT, as long as they back out in time shouldn’t even be a point of conversation but here we are

[whole minnow]

engs agains helis are so fck useless
they scape for missles, go to some hell place, reload flar and back again

[plush fox]

Should I buy the pro pass or regular bp

[stable haven]

no one likes Sobek and Blackwell

[olive coral]

I know they’re not popular but I like them. Especially attacking

[abstract nexus]

Ay bro, what matters is how you use it. The devs dont use it well for like a third of the maps

[whole minnow]

lot idiots farming kills with helis

[olive coral]

And I don’t particularly like escalation mode. I know it’s popular.

[stable haven]

I wish this algorithm would let me be defender for once on this new map. Defending is so easy lol

[craggy stump]

Im just really hoping they start adding more depth to the gunplay

[abstract nexus]

If only we had image perms id wanna see people's tierlists for maps on game modes

[woeful oyster]

Anyone know what the dmg drop off is for the new AR? Is it the same as the M433 where its 5 shot kill from 25-75m?

[abstract nexus]

I could give a hella in depth tier list of domination and bigger domination but past that id not have enough experience

[stable haven]

escalation is a hit and miss. A lot of the OG fans don't like how it funnels it into a chaotic 3-obj meat grinder

[olive coral]

That’s why I don’t like it. Also the scoring seems strange

[next garden]

Is movement better? Does it feel like bf4?

[stable haven]

I personally like escalation but that's because I hate half of the objective zone designs in conquest...so it just removes them off the map for me lol

[languid mural]

I love escalation

[craggy stump]

My mains issue is the games lack of depth to something like bf4

[spring cove]

Escalation's fun and you can tell a lot of the maps were designed around it

[languid mural]

they broke ur kneecaps man

[abstract nexus]

Tbh this is smth I kinda appreciate. My main gripe is that it can be very snowbally if a team prioritizes the right points

[craggy stump]

The zoomer movement bf4 or the base movement that feels dated?

[stable haven]

exactly, it's a mode that's fairly divisive but overall I think it's neat. Now, the new operation Auger or whatever in season 2 is supposed to be similar to BF1 Operations

WHY it is a limited time mode I'll never know because that should be permanent

[languid mural]

escalation? it is a main mode

[willow lance]

Base movement of BF4 is a lot better than BF6 ngl

[stable haven]

no I mean the new season 2 mode they're advertising

[languid mural]

oh okay

its 2 am my reading comprehension suffers

[stable haven]

it's all good my dude

[languid mural]

Im going to sleep hoping the next patch puts the player in a wheelchair to keep the reddit guys satisfied, have fun

[stable haven]

this game deserves non stop criticism that's consistent. People who care will criticise the game. People who don't have already left

[craggy stump]

i will complain until we have the gunplay depth that we deserve

[remote lintel]

ok

[craggy stump]

Np

[olive coral]

I’ll defend BF6 because

[ebon igloo]

Anyone else get a bug where you play casual breakthrough on contaminated with the gas but no gas mask?

[olive coral]

My man

[quaint plover]

WTF HAPPENED TO the marine corps charm? they just take away something i bought

[pseudo lava]

just came back to this game, are the rapid fire challenges doable in portal

like get 30 kills beyond 40m

[tardy wren]

What maps are the little bird on? Just the new one?

[charred rose]

The map is so huge but the gas in it feels kinda sparse. Big opportunities if they added a more random element to the gas letting it wash over different sections over time.

[merry bolt]

i played with it on manhatten bridge escalation and conquest

[craggy stump]

Is the attack heli still on conquest for that map?

[merry bolt]

from what i saw.. No.

[craggy stump]

thank god

Good change honestly

[merry bolt]

still a dominate heli map tho

[faint bluff]

Anyone having stability issues i had game crash twice today

[sturdy spindle]

no

[craggy stump]

I had issues but it was from the windows 11 nvidia compatibility issues

that got fixed recently tho

[stable haven]

I got a few crashes

[faint bluff]

It was working just fine until today after the update

[tardy wren]

Wait so attack is gone from Manhattan ?

[craggy stump]

Replaced with little bird

[severe flame]

Gotta say I love little bird, managed to do a entire game without dying once lol

[crimson garden]

Penguin says when installing big update like that, Render Cache gets initialized & it might be a good idea to Clear your graphics cache fully. (Penguin suspect this due to the Season 2 install)

[robust knoll]

[faint bluff]

@crimson garden thanks for the tip

[stable haven]

dang, hit reg still is an issue in bf

[gleaming cape]

what sniper has the longest sweet spot?

[severe flame]

PSR

[gleaming cape]

thanks

[split lake]

Another conquest on contaminated as NATO where just lose A and B and then lose the game because enemy locks us out of entire map. Cool. More great map design.

[charred rose]

New best map ever made for battlefield it has neat tunnels and woods

[crimson garden]

You're very welcome friend. Penguin doing what's possible to help. 🛡️ Stay safe online & remember to only download fixes & files from only official sources! 🚀

[acoustic venture]

Just a few games in contaminated, and not only this map is great, the new mechanics seems great too! Ahhhh yeah! 🙂

[olive coral]

Phew I guess those devs don’t need to be fired after all

[stable haven]

for some reason NATO has the worst areas in a lot of maps

like in Eastwood, I'll leave if i'm on NATO lol

[tardy wren]

Can’t believe they removed the attack from Manhattan, how am I supposed to destroy lobbies?

Taking all the fun out of the game!

[split lake]

I'm sad I didnt buy the game on steam and was silly and used the EA app. Because there is no review system there so i cant rate this game as it should.

[stable haven]

it's going lower which is nice

[north tendon]

Wow, really great way to get players to want to play BF6… BF Pro has reset so have to purchase again (I won’t now I know this will happen every season) and any custom search I’m doing results in a server full of bots and no humans.

[tardy wren]

All the devs had to do was copy and paste Bf4 and we’d be happy to play on current gen console

[severe flame]

The BF6 little bird feels quite different compared to the 2042 one in a good way

[olive coral]

That didn’t work out well for CoD MW3

[stable haven]

Honestly bf6 does do things right, though. They got drag revive which is amazing

[wheat wigeon]

So how do you equip gas mask on controller?? It says up on D-pad but that just make me do the class ability instead. But lol?

[stable haven]

you might have to hold it down?

[safe brook]

Im convinced the hit detection is entirely map based.
Even after the update, Eastwoods hit detection is complete and utter dogshit

[wheat wigeon]

Tried it

[olive coral]

I would love if they just took BF6 and reskinned it with new maps every time going forward. Or just kept supporting BF6 for 13 years like GTAO

[wheat wigeon]

Doesn't do anything

[stable haven]

hmmm

[modern badger]

glad to see the season 2 update has totally fucked the game
absolute steaming pile of shit at this point

[rapid flicker]

i thought we get session 2 for free if we got bf6 on ea app

[split lake]

HA

[olive coral]

Lmao see and all the positivity this morning, you always get both extremes

[stable haven]

no they would lose money and the execs gotta get their new yacht ya know?

[rapid flicker]

for having phantom edition

[olive coral]

You don’t get extremes like that with… tortillas, they either package em right in the warehouse or they fuck em up.

Can confirm

Fuckin, they all stick together sometimes, talmbout holes in the middle

[split lake]

now now, box could get wet real bad and no one notice and still get sold by accident

[olive coral]

Dang ol

[stable haven]

I mean the game is gonna take an extremely long time before it gets good, so the anger is understandable

we might not see a decent comeback until season 4 or 5

[olive coral]

I’m not saying nobody should criticize

That they do is precisely the point from earlier

It’s subjective, of course there will be likes and dislikes

[crimson garden]

Penguin understand it's good to vent frustration sometimes, but it would be more interesting to get to read what someone actually think is good/bad? As we're often here to chat about BF6 topics 😃

[split lake]

remember when every launch map of 2042 had to be re made? theyre gonna do it again with this one too.

all that lost dev time to re do stuff which caused other seasons to suffer

[olive coral]

I don’t think BF6 is anywhere close to the state 2042 launched in lol but some tweaks could help for sure

[severe flame]

Speak normally will you

[stable haven]

I like how my fav weapons got buffed lol

[olive coral]

Again because art is subjective

[stable haven]

LMGs are now probably the best weapon calss

[weary cove]

It’s official, the devs are bad.

hyper fast ttk
always taking random chip damage
lets NERF healing and NERF movement

You can tell they want to cater to battledads with this game

[stable haven]

wait, I didn't see notes on healing being nerfed

[weary cove]

Previous update

[modest jackal]

Wasn't that just towards the Supply Bag for Support?

[split lake]

yeah ttk could have been addressed but why bother when you can tout 240 other things that shoul have been fixed in mid season 1

[stable haven]

I think it was just the small supply bag that got nerfed yeah

[weary cove]

Enders summed it up nicely. This game caters to bots, and there’s a reason players like to lay down and never move

[stable haven]

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy we won breakthrough attackers

[modest jackal]

I meant the Big One.

[feral minnow]

enders a hater woudnt listen to everything he saya

[stable haven]

enders is good though

I disagree with some of his takes but overall his criticism is very valid

people just label him a hater because they're told the truth

[crimson garden]

This is completely normal to Penguin in order to avoid any bottlenecks 👉 🦢 and brain-lagg over here 😃 Currently there's enough work to learn the new Contaminated map, hoping you're doing alright friend! 🚀

[feral minnow]

i never seen a positive vid comin out from him in months and he puts in hours everyday in the game i dont get it

[stable haven]

Don't worry penguin, keep being a penguin

[safe brook]

I think Enders is mid

[stable haven]

other big content creators like xclusive ace, jackfrags, and more are also criticising this game, and rightfully so. Although you're right, enders doesn't really release a lot of positive stuff, but I'm fine with that since the state of the game is horrible

[split lake]

i wish it was easier to find a list of the map designers for this and 2042 and see the nice ven diagram. along with the individual maps they made. need to be an excel wizard.

[stable haven]

enders does NOT sugar coat things

[feral minnow]

if you js gettin into battlefield and watch enders youre cooked cs youd feel like you bought the most useless game on earth

[craggy stump]

Reddits worst nightmare

[stable haven]

dude reddit is MORE negative than him

[abstract relic]

Makes whole map………and yet yall continue to lay on your pussy and snipe

[upbeat grove]

I wont go to Reddit. I think my account there is like 12 years old now lol

[heady gale]

Wdym chip damage 💀 if you’re taking damage you’re taking damage

[feral minnow]

i do agree w some of his takes but he overdoes it and it gets annoying

[upbeat grove]

i don't have to login to see it, and it's bad

[stable haven]

potato chip damage; he's crunching on his chips too hard

[craggy stump]

hyper fast ttk and super mega easy to use weapons with no incentive to hit headshots or aim body

[feral minnow]

i never seen everyone happy w an update either ways ther has to be one group of people always disappointed

[safe brook]

Because sniping is to easy

[split lake]

used almost all my "main" guns today and nothing feels different so not sure what balance pass they actually did

[stable haven]

that's understandable

[feral minnow]

every other vid is a bigger title😭 also is youtube down rn?

[split lake]

yes

[feral minnow]

man

[grand cipher]

feels like hitreg has gotten worse with this patch?

[stable haven]

hitreg got A LOT WORSE

I had some dude beaming me with mp5 and I lived somehow????

[sturdy spindle]

hit reg feels flawless as always for me

[grand cipher]

glad it's not just me

went back to 25-30% hits being dropped

[sturdy spindle]

show a clip of ur hitreg problems if u can

[hard lynx]

dear lord the balance changes are so bad b36 is so broken now

[tropic garden]

what is the meta loadout for the little bird?

[feral minnow]

lmaoo same i had a dude literally crouch shoot stand shoot and i survived i looked back at him and shot

[topaz plinth]

whoever broskyy is I sincerely apologize for drifting the car into the tank

[grand cipher]

i mean im just tracking the clientside vs serverside hits

[split lake]

they claimed to have fixed vault pathing, nope still got stuck on things that were lower height than characters knees...

[hard lynx]

genuinely one of the worst updates of all time bf6 is honestly comparable to bf2042 now

[craggy stump]

Is it wrong that i miss bf4 gunplay

[sturdy spindle]

yea

u have to let go of the past

[hard lynx]

no that was the best easily

[stable haven]

well the bf4 devs left and went to Embark Studios

the talent just isn't here anymore

[split lake]

its almost like they had a template in 3/4/1/V and then went YYEEEEEEETT

[abstract relic]

It’s ridiculous, you can’t even enjoy new map with looking at direct sniper glare

[small niche]

Can we please get a menu button to clear unlock dots, yalls system sucks so much and My loadout screen if filled with phantom dots, I hate it

[sturdy spindle]

do u have OCD

[craggy stump]

Just me but id rather the spread in bf4 than the beamy gunplay we have rn

[sturdy spindle]

why do u like spread

skill is rewarded when theres less spread

[tidal hound]

He likes RNG in gunfights, making it more likely for him to get a kill

[craggy stump]

quite literally the opposite

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

[upbeat grove]

spread goes on bread

[sturdy spindle]

RNG fights

[small niche]

Movement Demon? Log out

[tidal hound]

Why rely on having good aim when I can just rely on luck dictating my spread pattern and the enemies spread missing?

[craggy stump]

spread in bf4 could be controlled by bursting, its just more engaging than holding mouse 1 out to 80 meters

[sturdy spindle]

how does bursting ur gun equal skill

[split lake]

whoa whoa whoa reward actual realistic gunplay in a modern game? get out of here!!!!

[upbeat grove]

1v5

[tidal hound]

Didnt you know? Letting go of Mouse 1 for 0.2 seconds = skill

[split lake]

full auto all the time or nothing

[craggy stump]

aim isnt even rewarded, headshots dont matter in this game for 90% of weapons and theres no limb multiplier so you dont even need good control

[safe brook]

BF4 solved the problem by making the maps bigger and slowing down the bullet velocity on the snipers

[heady gale]

A lot of issues would be fixed if they cut the bullet velocity of most guns

[sturdy spindle]

that would be really unrealistic

[split lake]

yeah getting hit at 80m by smg and killed feels bad

[sturdy spindle]

smg suffer so hard at 80m wym

[abstract relic]

That would help here, but maps are too small 🫤

[craggy stump]

asking for too much, we in a post BFV society

[abstract relic]

They are trying to cater to the low attention span cod players

[heady gale]

The bullet velocities were clearly meant for redsec, they were just kept the same for multiplayer

[split lake]

the only reason this map is so small is because they knew they had golland rails coming to justify it being small

[stable haven]

I actually like the bullet velocities

[marble kite]

Anyone use the vhs2 yet?

[sturdy spindle]

bullet velocity is as normal as can be, the maps are just too small for yall

[marble kite]

Is it like m433?

[fleet tapir]

Do the gas masks just not work at all now?

[stable haven]

exactly. If we had bigger maps, the bullet velocity we have right now is good

[heady gale]

Fun to use but some guns are way too high

[sturdy spindle]

theyre standard

[split lake]

toodamnhigh.gif

[marble kite]

Lmao

[sturdy spindle]

embed failure 💀

[stable haven]

I very much disagree, but a lot of people want the velocity toned down so I'm the odd one out. I think RPG velocity is perfect, for example

[split lake]

wasnt trying to embed and pretty sure gifs cant be posted here....

[safe brook]

No, I think they're trying to balance the game around a BR while overcorrecting on 2042's maps being way to big

[marble kite]

Yeah no gifs in here

[heady gale]

Eh I’m not fussed about the RPG, just a lot of guns end up being near hit scan with the map sizes

[stable haven]

then again I'm used to milsim games where the velocity is high because you're shooting at enemies 500m away lol

[marble kite]

Is it just me or did they buff rpg?

[sturdy spindle]

the purple names can post gifs

yea i grinded 17 tiers today

[hard lynx]

bullet velocities are kinda fast for my likings but the real problem is the lack of recoil/spread on many of the guns + no weapon flinch against snipers

[marble kite]

Is it faster to earn bp tiers now?

[devout sedge]

RPG been good

[heady gale]

That’s why I say it feels like it was meant mostly for BR

[devout sedge]

Yes

[marble kite]

Wtf is t22?

[hard lynx]

the lack of flinch on snipers being especially broken

[signal pier]

New BF Map is avout the Pax Amarta not psying the IRS

[sturdy spindle]

do yall want ARs to have 500 bullet velocity or something

[marble kite]

What famas? Its the VHS 2 lmao.

[heady gale]

Balancing > Realism

[marble kite]

Bro 🤦‍♂️

[craggy stump]

true

[marble kite]

It is not a famas wtf

[sturdy spindle]

bullet velocity doesnt need balancing

[abstract relic]

True, it’s getting to where I just mag dump onto sniper glare. May not get the kill, but it’s fun to watch them have to reposition

[marble kite]

That's like calling an sg553 an ak

[sturdy spindle]

why doesnt this game have an ak

[heady gale]

You strictly play cqb how would you know

[marble kite]

My god not even close. A bullpup yeah. But it doesn't mean they all the same

I swear this must be bait

[sturdy spindle]

wym i have 44 hours on breakthrough

[gentle zodiac]

At least they gave us the Galil, or rather the Fort. It's almost an AK.

[hallow geode]

Dice producer Phil Girette : "Does the perfect Battlefield season even exist?. Everyone sat together and said, ‘this is really, really strong.’ We want to use Season 2 as kind of the foundation going forward - this is the level we need to hit. We hope that the players think the same, but I think this is going to be the strongest season [yet]."

[heady gale]

Thought your reasoning on that was challenges

[crimson garden]

Penguin sees this topic been in chat many times on a loop, currently most maps don't allow for distances where bullet velocities don't seem like instant hits ➿ The velocities for the guns = OK according to Penguin understanding 🎣

[sturdy spindle]

i still had to shoot guns

[split lake]

yikes

[marble kite]

[heady gale]

Not very well 💔

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

[robust knoll]

how'd the farm go

[hallow geode]

My thoughts exactly. It's over

[marble kite]

Anyone use the new lmg yet? Is it good?

There isn't

[sturdy spindle]

a lot of sweats have returned so my teammates have been getting cooked

[marble kite]

Lmao. The gas is nice

Deffo see hallucinations

[heady gale]

Not played the map yet but happy it’s a five sector breakthrough map

[stable haven]

it is, and it's nearly impossible

I won twice on the new map as attackers, thankfully, but the first set of objectives in the map is really badly desigend

defenders have too much view in every single place, and no amount of smoke will save you

[devout sedge]

I'll get to it eventually

[stable haven]

honestly they need to block off a lot of sight for defenders in the first objective

[craggy stump]

the 3rd and 4th sectors are terrible

but it starts off decent

[stable haven]

no it does not start out decent lol

[sturdy spindle]

what gun

[stable haven]

the overwhelming majority of my losses are in the first sector

[craggy stump]

I think the first 2 sectors are fine honestly

[craggy stump]

breakthrough on the new map

[stable haven]

why does that matter lol

[sturdy spindle]

why u dodging the question

[stable haven]

because you're asking something not related

[craggy stump]

its unusable if its .02 seconds less effective than the best gun clearly

[vale quiver]

😕 the ammount of shit talk cuz you play against bots mostly comes from people who are either elitist #$%@;$ Or they are Projecting cuz they feel guilty of doing it

[craggy stump]

just throwing at that point

[stable haven]

I'm starting to think breakthough just shouldn't be a game mode anymore

[vale quiver]

y?

[craggy stump]

cuz the maps arent designed with it in mind clearly

[vale quiver]

"clearly"?

oh deep think please illucidate the situation at hand for me

[craggy stump]

that is the problem tho. the maps are built for conquest and then breakthrough and other modes are fit with the pieces they have

[safe brook]

And half of them aren't even good conquest maps

[craggy stump]

there were entire maps in bf3 designed with rush in mind for example

[craggy stump]

thats the best part

[humble trench]

i miss rush, they killed it off by hiding the playlist in random places in the menu, it was also never properly balanced in this game in general :<

[vale quiver]

i mean 😕 a map is a map sometimes you have to be awkword in missions in real life 😕 even arcade modes arent meant to be perfect for everything (i think anyway)

[sturdy spindle]

the maps in this game are build for king of the hill, domination, strikepoint, and sometimes conquest

[stable haven]

nah it's meant for conquest

[vale quiver]

conquest USED to be battlefield

[sturdy spindle]

why everyone keep crying about maps in conquest then

[vale quiver]

thats toxic af

[gloomy oracle]

audio is so muffled now with night mode damn

[stable haven]

oh I never see anyone get mad about maps in conquest

[humble trench]

those people have already quit lolol

[sturdy spindle]

thats cause u join the chat after everyone already finished complaining

[humble trench]

the OG conquest fans are used to large maps and there arent any

[ancient sierra]

wonder if theyll ever sort out their crap mortars

[sturdy spindle]

i tapped a mortar user and bro ran away mad quick

[humble trench]

god mortars are so derp in this game. its similar to jets in that theyre in their own ecosystem

the only reason to use a mortar is if someone else is being ###### with it

[stable haven]

mortars don't do anything

[humble trench]

insert random insult in place of brackets

[primal herald]

Anyone tryna run REDSEC Quads

[humble trench]

wel ye theyre primarily annoying, so someone has to waste time to be counter-annoying

[vapid meadow]

These guys really think we’re gonna dish out $25 a season for BF Pro when Premium was a 1 time purchase in the past, yeah okay.

[humble trench]

have u learned ur lesson then

[coarse viper]

Guys what about guntlet is there any mode fornit

[ancient sierra]

yh Pro is a one time thing i aint giving more towards them

[safe brook]

I cant wait for limb damage to be added

[sturdy spindle]

but cod does it

[ancient sierra]

i dont mind a bit of inaccuracy but 20minute hangtimes and like 40m inaccuracies is just a joke

[vapid meadow]

That’s doing great for them this year I bet.

[topaz bluff]

Bf pro is cosmetics, and premium is game play, so you have no need for bf pro

[vapid meadow]

Yeah but the FOMO kids need to stop support ts

[thick garnet]

How is everyone liking the new map?

[marble kite]

Is it me or does the soldier dialog and such more rare?

[topaz bluff]

I rather has cosmetics locked behind a paywall rather than gameplay

[marble kite]

Used to hear my character yell things but not anymore?

Wtf happen

[vapid meadow]

We don’t need a medic anymore

[acoustic spindle]

FOMO is self inflicted

[marble kite]

Mine still does say medic. But not every time.

How can I revert? I want to hear more dialog

[lapis bloom]

i see they screwed up tank and IFV ADS

[lean gust]

This exclusive path stuff, this is all just cosmetics right?

[acoustic spindle]

Yes

[lean gust]

With the BF pro path?

[vapid meadow]

They screwed up everything, my gunsmith is all blurry

[lapis bloom]

the tank ADS is now the same as the first person tank camera which is so slow

and third person is way too fast

[vapid meadow]

Oh yeah no that’s just called balancing

[signal pier]

Someone ripped ass in the new map so hard, it got me hallucinating 😔

[lapis bloom]

i mean i want to tune my settings so it's not insanely fast in third person

[dry pulsar]

and yet again inf can do damage to air.....

[marble kite]

Why couldn't they?

Bullets can damage vehicles

[thick garnet]

I think it’s good for escalation and cascade or whatever it’s called. But that first breakthrough objective is really tough. I played about 10 matches and lost all of them, 5 were close ish and 5 were fast sweeps - not that I care about winning/losing I just like to play - so it’s too bad they didn’t fix the matchmaking. I really like the new engineer weapon they added th Pw7A2. Really dig that. Hoping to get a chance to try the vehicles soon. Overall, I’m pretty content with it. I won’t be playing breakthrough anymore but escalation and conquest and the other one matches will be fun to play for the next while. 6.5/10

[marble kite]

Lmao mp7 ain't new. Been in since launch

[gentle zodiac]

Has it been reported that gas masks don't work in casual breakthrough?

[vapid meadow]

Most modern firearms damage aircraft, they weren’t shooting Ak47s at our Apaches in the Middle East for no reason.

[dry pulsar]

its a video game

[vapid meadow]

That makes bullets not damage aircraft, what is that reasoning lol

[marble kite]

So? Bullets makes things hurt.

[floral rune]

I think that might be because bullets ain't just something that comes with the weapons and that you can just try and shoot and get more bullets whenever ect ect

[humble trench]

so are u upset u cant hoover in the air and get 300 free kills or what is it :P

[marble kite]

Lmao 🤣

[thick garnet]

Thank you for letting me know! I have about 250 hours into the game and I’ve never seen it before which is why I thought it was new. But thank you for letting me know!

[humble trench]

if anything u should be lucky most people dont bother shooting choppers, cause several LMG's can down one if theyre accurate with them

[floral rune]

yeah it absolutely destroys it

[marble kite]

Support mains salivating right now.

[vapid meadow]

Imagine everyone just sprayed at choppers in unison whenever they seen one.

[marble kite]

Insta delete

[humble trench]

the entertainment in here from chopper pilots would skyrocket

[marble kite]

Oh yeah

[thick garnet]

So wait, they didn’t add new maps? I’m confused.

[marble kite]

Yep new map

[floral rune]

they added a new map

They're adding another map later

[marble kite]

Contaminated

[vapid meadow]

tbf infantry wouldn’t even see an attack helicopter before they dead 90% of the time

[floral rune]

I kinda like the map even though I get shot from all sorta stupid locations atm

[thick garnet]

I thought you wrote it wasn’t new. Sorry might have misread or misunderstood.

[marble kite]

Lol

[dry pulsar]

its about balance. it makes no sense to have them damage helos since theres a literal vehicle and gadget to deal with them

[floral rune]

The new comtaminated map is ideal for our mountain goat and tunnel rat players haha

[dry pulsar]

its awful to play scout when some guy with a lmg does have your health

[marble kite]

Little bird not much armor. So of course enough fire makes it go down

If it bleeds, we can kill it

[dry pulsar]

thats not the point

[marble kite]

[languid horizon]

So how does the gas work in the game

[floral rune]

Very effectively

[languid horizon]

Does it just make vision hard and make you gotta replace your mask?

Or does it genuinely just kill everyone

[humble trench]

u sure its not just because its day 1 and ur not an advanced little bird pilot yet? it always required skill and serious maneuverability to avoid getting rekt in older games

[floral rune]

It makes you see players that are not there, it makes it so you don't know if players are friends or foes and does vision blurred

[dry pulsar]

im gonna be honest thats the dumbest reason ever. its fun to learn to mechanics of the game why would they make it awful to play for others at the expence of "catering"

[languid horizon]

sick.. but why😂

[floral rune]

hallucinations

[vapid meadow]

More players = more money

[left willow]

ikr seems like every lobby i get has a vet little bird who just wont die

[vapid meadow]

It’s just a business scheme

[floral rune]

I don't think its that deep

They just went with realism for gameplays sake

[humble trench]

pretty sure u could use automatics to kill a little bird pilot in bf3 too

[left willow]

new map a solid 3-10 if u dont like the sitting on a mountain playstyle. i love it for fighting on C point but as soon as you lose it its annoying to get back to

[humble trench]

if the pilot was flying around like a wild bat it would be very hard to do though

[heady gale]

.

[stable haven]

man I wish we got more maps. Just one map this month and another next month...feels like a long season already and it's just day one

[dry pulsar]

my argument agaisnt that is the ttk in this game is A LOT faster

[stable haven]

I thought was roughly the same as bf4's

[clever jasper]

My fav thing to do is just watch the arguments in bed before I go to sleep

[idle willow]

Is in game chat bugged again? Been in Casual, every time I type into chat the chatbox disappears as soon as I hit enter

[stable haven]

yeah it's bugged on some rounds

[idle willow]

Gfd

[stable haven]

I can't type on a few of them, then if I restart the game it works fine

[idle willow]

Tyvm

[stable haven]

I encounted it in season 1, too, so they haven't fixed it yet it seems

[languid mural]

hit the H key, it switches the chat mode between being hidden, show when active and show constantly
the chat visibility setting might've reset with the patch or just a missclick, but yeah

[fading karma]

Has anybody realized that we still don’t have an animations for breaking through glass during sprint?

[languid mural]

I mean, is that needed?

[green wave]

im still shocked the hammer cant break glass in 1 shot but you can just run through it

[safe brook]

the new DMR is very reminiscent of the DM7 from 2042

[languid mural]

wait now that I think about it you might be right, knife also can hit it with 2 lmao

[green wave]

so youre saying we will get 2 full auto DMRs later that will overshadow it?

[tribal umbra]

the amount of ppl that miss snipes now is hilarious prob not as big a deal on pc but on console these guys that cant have the range find on fire are bots now

[languid mural]

if they were using a range finder on PC then probably too, but Im glad to hear that

[tribal umbra]

they lit stand still and miss and i just pop their heads

[craggy stump]

lol the At4 doesnt even 1 shot the little bird

[tribal umbra]

all the launchers are trash tbh its clear they only put them in the game for giggles

[craggy stump]

the rpg is the only good one still

[tribal umbra]

well i assumed we were leaving that out of the convo by default

[craggy stump]

true lol

[abstract relic]

Every single gunfight it’s fucking 6v1….please MAKE BIGGER MAPS

[tribal umbra]

the only one really urks me is the javelin it should hit hard asf fear of god

[craggy stump]

I kinda want to try the igla

it was pretty funny in bf4

[tribal umbra]

is that the new ones name ?>

[craggy stump]

yeah

or at least thats what its based off of

i dunno what its called in game

[past jasper]

its called igla

[tribal umbra]

ive had mixed results u have to stand still after u fire to guide and its no really faster than the other aa but u can reload faster but i havent seen much diff fro the others

[past jasper]

thing is that it can reaquire after flares

[craggy stump]

its strength is target switching with it

I dunno how much damage it does tho

[tribal umbra]

from my testing not the case even if its sup[posed to

[past jasper]

if it can aquire lased target automagically it can be super good

[craggy stump]

if its like stinger damage it might be funny but if its like at4 damage, its prob dead on arrival

[past jasper]

if

[graceful sun]

LOVE THE new map but shit you guys should've made the gas do damage instead of preventing health regen

[tribal umbra]

but even so youd still be standing in the open trying to track and for no gain imo but ill keep testing

[past jasper]

if it supports automagic tracking of nearest lazed target then it can just be some recon re aq it for you

or even littlebird

[blissful condor]

what is the tanks ads bruh ts is so trash now

cant even use the gun to hit a running player since the ads makes u so slow 🤣

[tribal umbra]

i have noticed maybe the rockets are faster could just be a feel thing

[fading karma]

I mean we have an animation for jumping through a window with a ledge. It looks kinda dumb when u just sprint face first into it. What is wrong with you ppl accepting the downgrading of this franchise

[craggy stump]

igla has at4 damage lol...

[languid mural]

ye bro sorry for not seeing your "where's my additional animation when sprinting through a piece of glass" as legitimate complain, I see no need for it from either a gameplay or aesthetic/immersion perspective

[craggy stump]

the launchers man.

[tribal umbra]

i havent been able to switch a target mid flight like it says

[craggy stump]

yeah flares blow it up. basically unusable garbage

[tribal umbra]

it sends the rocket to the grounds u most def cannot reaquire

[fading karma]

The bf6 community is absolute brain rot and you’re a good example. You guys love slop

[languid mural]

yeah bro, keep telling yourself that for whatever reason

[hybrid lava]

The amount of glitches this update brought is wild

[tribal umbra]

its delayed now

[languid mural]

I hope they add your additional animation instead of doing anything else that might actually help the game, because this $70 game has severe issues but an animation when sprinting through glass is not one of them

[craggy stump]

i honestly might wait for the TTK pass

[languid mural]

Im waiting till they revert the meal team 6 movement change

[tribal umbra]

they 100% lied about new launcher lol

[craggy stump]

it just doesnt work lol

even if it did the damage is too low for a lock on, it will always be a worse stinger

[fading karma]

This game has plenty of issues. It’s half baked garbage. The game is literally a joke. It’s designed for cod players. They’ve repeated mistakes older bf titles fixed. They’ve removed many great features older titles perfected. Bf4 which released in 2013 had better features than this game at release. No crap the technical issues need to be fixed but the fact we’re missing the bare minimum such as a sprint through glass break through animation is absolutely embarrassing. You guys will give these lazy greedy devs support no matter what pile of crap they put in front of your face

[languid mural]

you see, I agree with half of that, but then you bring up a non issue and try to insult me

[fading karma]

Bc you’re literally giving the devs a pass for an animation that would take less than a day to add

[tribal umbra]

u hvae to sep bind it and then get ur range before firing now

[languid mural]

sprinting through glass animation is not an issue that I set the bar for "mediocrity" and "slop" for, sure, that would be a nice detail, but thats not why the game is "downgraded"

[fading karma]

If I told you why I think the game is downgraded you would probably disagree with everything I say and say it’s better the way it is

[craggy stump]

I liked when they said they were making a worthy sequel to bf4

[languid mural]

you might have valid points, unfortunately I cannot read your mind so I wont know

[craggy stump]

and then refuse to build on anything bf4 actually brought to the franchise

[fading karma]

We got 2042 with small maps and slightly nerfed movement instead

[lapis bloom]

can they just let me adjust 3rd person vehicle aim and first person aim individually? one is too slow one is too fast you get one or the other

[craggy stump]

they have all the pieces to make a worthy sucessor but wont for some reason. and thats the most frustrating part

[tight prism]

What does it do 👀 good or bad 👀

[fading karma]

I want bloom increased. I want tap firing to be rewarded. I want the old suppression mechanics back. I want the blurring effect. I want increased weapon sway and bloom when being shot at. I want weighted movement. I want the slide to be exactly like bf1s slide. Weighted and unable to freely aim while sliding or jump out of a slide. I want weighted movement animations such as climbing over objects, going prone and standing up, throwing grenades and swapping weapons bc it’s all faster than it used to be, I want actual large in depth maps like we used to have, I want sniper bullet drop like we had in bf4. I want assists and flick turns disabled. I want aim assist reduced. I want increased explosive damage and splash. I want requests and orders in team chat. I want better vehicle control with old controls as default bc they’ve made flying way too easy for casuals. I want rpgs to be slower and have more drop like they used to bc now they’re far too easy to use. There’s plenty more but I’m tired of typing

[merry flare]

Can't even play the update currently. The game crashes when changing my loadout. Anyone else getting the "Direct3D could not allocate sufficient memory to complete the call"?

[tribal umbra]

it doesnt do any more dmg than the other trash launchers and the gimmick its supposed to do is that if u lock on and someone flares u can re lock on and the missile will hit home but flares just destroy the rocket or send it to the ground where it explodes because dice is incompetent

not my fault they suck at their job

[river ice]

THIS GUY IS FUCKING BASED I AGREEE

[spice oar]

based

bro speaking ebonics

[woeful oyster]

Season 2 released literally not even 24 hours ago and most matches are bot filled still rip bf6🙏

[fading karma]

Dang. I finally got ppl agreeing with me on the discord. I’ve been getting crapped on by cod refugees telling me the game is perfect for weeks

[rich torrent]

Bloom increased, what a horrible thing.

[river ice]

its not cod i want the ablility to hold a point and be stratigical like its suppposed to be not fucking cod with slide mechanics

[spice oar]

whats ur thought on movement speed?

[twin turtle]

anyone else have the bug when the entire character disappears and you have a floating crosshair

[spice oar]

i think it needs slowed a ton

[rich torrent]

Battlefield 3 and 4.

[spice oar]

not able to slide and jump like its minecraft

[dense bluff]

lul wot... i need it sped up lmfao

[river ice]

cod user here

[languid mural]

well, Ill also give you shorter then, in my general views I agree with the gunplay changes that you want as getting beamed from a 100m isnt fun (or the snipers taking all of the skill out of it)
I dont like more weight in animations as current movement already got cinderblocks at your feet, but I'd gladly take explosives being more reliable in exchange for actually devoting some time to throwing them
rpgs being faster is a crime as they shouldnt be the default AA option, so yeah
for chat and map things I dont care too much, as long as these are functionable Im good
and idc about assists too as Im not using them at all

[fading karma]

I think if we actually get large maps the current sprint speed will be a problem. It’s slower than older titles to make up for these shoe box sized maps we have. But movement animations is all way too fast. If they give us large maps and increase sprint speed it will be 2042 all over again. This game is literally 2042 with small maps and nerfed sprint speed

[spice oar]

just dont like how unrealistic it is feels like just cod with cars

[rich torrent]

It's not a milsim.

[spice oar]

should be

[rich torrent]

It's never been, go play Arma.

[river ice]

sliding in real life is not an approved tactic for actual gunfight combat while shooting for taking corners its used for gaining cover its not supposed to be used in the way people are useing it

[rich torrent]

It's not a milsim.

[spice oar]

it needs to be closer to realism

[rich torrent]

But it's not a milsim.

[river ice]

its not fucking cod

[craggy stump]

bf has never been a realistic game

[languid mural]

its not arma either, whats your point

[rich torrent]

Battlefield 3 and 4 had more insane movement.

[spice oar]

yea could be better tho

[languid mural]

more realistic doesnt mean better

[fading karma]

Bf used to be advertised as an arcade/milsim. it was always supposed to combine elements of both

[spice oar]

bad opinion

[rich torrent]

No it wasn't.

[slender epoch]

alright dice we have a problem

[craggy stump]

I miss vehicle launching

[river ice]

there is a good reason to why i didnt play those ones

[fading karma]

Yes it was. There’s literally vids of the devs saying this

[river ice]

3 and 4 were ass

[languid mural]

movement crybabies
camp in corners
the venn diagram has nothing in common

[slender epoch]

played my first match on the new map on escalation . i can certainly tell yall that it’s not an escalation map

[craggy stump]

bait used to be believable

[tribal umbra]

im just annoyed the core issues aren't fixed there's not really any variety in tactics because of balance or lack there of wep xp still ass bp xp still ass 1 map in 4 months that's just kinda ok at best imo by the time the game becomes all it can be something will come out and make it irrelevant

[languid mural]

ye bro everyone should die to 1 hit headshot and tbh we shouldnt even shoot at each other, it should be drone combat

[rich torrent]

It's never been advertised as a milsim.

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

damn

laugh at me

my embed no work

[fading karma]

I hate the movement but I don’t camp. I like to slowly move forward while keeping peeking corners. I can’t do that often in bf6 tho bc you’ve always got an enemy running up behind you

[spice oar]

not to mention jumpin like they are on gov issued meth

[craggy stump]

I liked the movement honestly

[river ice]

agreed but these cod fakers tryin to make it cod

[languid mural]

you do realise you can use your left click/trigger to shoot at those people or no

[fading karma]

Omg. They said ARCADE/MILSIM COMBINING ELEMENTS OF BOTH. nobody ever said it’s a straight up milsim. I swear you’re a brick wall

[rich torrent]

Movement has been in Battlefield for so long lmao.

[rich torrent]

Exactly, it's not a milsim.

[river ice]

hes just crying becuase he knows hes wrong and cant use his brain for combat so he has to go practice aim trainer

[spice oar]

i dont think there is reasoning with these kinds of people its like cali people moving from cali cause its full of cali people so they have to move to other states and spread the shittism

[craggy stump]

honestly I have more issues with the comically dumbed down gunplay than the movement

thats just me tho

[fading karma]

Exactly. I just said it’s not a straight up milsim. It’s a mix between milsim and arcade. Why are you like this?

[raven field]

Crazy that I watched a like 7min vid on s2 and that showed me everything s2 had to offer. Glad I didnt stay up late to wait for launch 😌

[rich torrent]

It's always been marketed as an arcade sand box.

[river ice]

ill be honest i like the guns as they are but the movement isnt at all where it needs to be

[languid mural]

tbh youre right cuz nerfs to movement wouldnt be that much of an issue if the TTK was slower

[spice oar]

honestly they should give me fly hacks

would be based

[languid mural]

they should put the players in a wheelchair so its "not like cod!!!"

[craggy stump]

its not just TTK tho, theres basically no depth to gunplay

[spice oar]

hell yea

[rich torrent]

Still haven't seen a good player complain about movement.

[spice oar]

bro can call me sgt hotwheel

[languid mural]

I mean theres no depth to gunplay because TTK is fast, contributing factors also being nonexistent recoil

[fading karma]

What is considered a good player?