battlefield-6

[outer fog]

I mean that’s kinda the point of 64v64

[lavish wedge]

128p can work, I mean it worked with battlebit

It all comes down with the maps

[outer fog]

Facts

[dusky arch]

um no, not particularly. it could get that way sometimes but generally the maps were bigger on average so not so bad and the smaller ones like spearhead were designed pretty good so no, I loved it! I liked some of the things in the first iteration of the maps too like the remote radar site on breakaway only accessible by chopper (basically)

[hallow geode]

The minority who didn't want to wait for it to develop further and become great were simply too loud. 128 had some solid layouts by the time they stopped support for it.

[trail nova]

last time i played iwo jima 128p in 2042 road to bf6 and once you get into the tunnels it just went insane with the spam lol

[dusky arch]

also, when the players did get clumped together it was like a change of pace within a round so it was cool to me. yes the tunnels could get a bit much for sure i agree

[hallow geode]

With how popular rush 128 was I'm surprised they didn't look at that data and try to come to a compromise of say at least offering 128 as an option in this game

[candid oxide]

I don't know why we should be looking at 128p at all, as if the only thing that can be done is a doubling. This game should start with a +1 squad each team. 72 player games. Then take it from there in steps

[trail nova]

bro it takes them 6 months to make 1 medium sized map, lower expectations

[unkempt widget]

**I’ve seen many comments from Asian and Western players expressing dissatisfaction with the map design in this installment. EA DICE has already released a map editor, but it still hasn’t been simplified enough. EA DICE should produce more tutorial videos and ensure that every playable creation has multilingual interfaces (after all, the cost is borne by the players, so complaints would decrease; usually, those who complain are players without the ability to create themselves).

I also hope that in the next update, the game will release weapon scripting tools, learning from the joy the Source engine brought to players (this would solve complaints about weapon design and TTK from less skilled players). It’s time for the game to fully return to its classic roots, opening everything up for player DIY, instead of focusing on online play and microtransactions. Just look at Call of Duty next door—you can see why newer titles are often worse than older ones: too little freedom and playability. If you return to the fun design philosophy of earlier games, you’ll achieve unexpected results. That’s human nature: the less you give players, the harsher the criticism; but when you give them tools, you’ll see who’s just a complainer and who’s a true DIY master.

Instead of the company making all the models, players could be empowered to assign functions to them. EA DICE could also learn from Unreal Engine communities and platforms like https://mod.io/g, allowing players to share mods, subscribe to them, and host servers. This way, the company’s staff wouldn’t be overworked, community discussions would improve, and the game could even justify a higher price."**

[trail nova]

holy bold text jump scare

what does weapon scripting tools mean? and i heard the map editor was pretty good so idk

[lavish wedge]

My current dissatisfaction with this game is the goddamn match making in Asia

Always get into 25v25 matches

[dusky arch]

the map editor is shameful compared to the original Battlefield 1942!

the greed knows no bounds

and its a scared type of greed too--very defensive

[lavish wedge]

The game still got over 3 more years before sunsetting so I still have my hopes

[hallow geode]

It is time guys. After 84 years. I must change my name to improve the game.

[dusky arch]

I have forgotten hopes

[trail nova]

maybe i forget games and get a gf

[lavish wedge]

But honestly, I don't want them to make bf7, I don't want to see another "We are so back" moment

I don't want to hear another "This will be THE battlefield game", saying the same thing that people said to bf6

[dusky arch]

maybe you (edit: "you") get a good job first?

[rich torrent]

You ready for yearly releases?

[river fox]

Next battlefield will be all female soldiers with blue hair

[lavish wedge]

1 year is not enough contents for a battlefield game at sll

[rich torrent]

Well if the information is correct, that's what we'll be getting.

[hallow geode]

Pretty sure road map is Friday @rich torrent

[rich torrent]

And if that happens, I'm done with the series for good.

[dusky arch]

its a new moon--arise warrior spirits!

[trail nova]

lol they were saying that 10 years ago, just dumb rumors

[rich torrent]

Yea, far too late.

[lavish wedge]

I just want them to focus on bf6 and make it THE battlefield game, instead of making bf7

[rich torrent]

Yea but now they've merged 4 dev teams into a studio.

No more NFS.

[dusky arch]

sorry bruh didn't want to come off as harassing you

[trail nova]

no more need for speed?!

[lavish wedge]

Sad

[rich torrent]

The NFS team is a part of Battlefield Studios.

[dusky arch]

THAT is unfortunate.

[trail nova]

god this chat is depressing right now i need to up my meds

[rich torrent]

I'm calling it now, we'll get 1 more proper battlefield at most then yearly releases.

[dusky arch]

yo im gonna download freedom fighters again and fininsh that yet. i just loved that aesthetic. i dont even know why exactly but the music and sometimes over the top parts were just perfect. what a good ol game.

[river fox]

They dont deserve to be called a AAA company at this point.

[rich torrent]

Not at all, Indie studios is where it's at now a days.

[trail nova]

speaking of NFS i played the best mod for carbon called "NFSCO" look it up, there's YT videos and everything, super updated and fun

[dusky arch]

FAN REMAKE OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS

[hallow geode]

Is unbound worth playing? Not sure if I wanna use up space on my PS5 for it. (Got it for free with ps plus)

[dusky arch]

lol i dont think it had many fans

[lavish wedge]

My current prediction (that I want it to happen) with the story is that NATO will lose Germany which means the continent will be under Pax control

And then we will have a d day like invasion of France

[unkempt widget]

Give them time

[balmy sinew]

That's an interesting storyline 👀

[lavish wedge]

Or more likely NATO will manage to defend Germany and then will do a counter attack

[dusky arch]

in my eyes pax armata is just a stand in for the industrial military complex of Eisenhower's speech that so many like to bring up

[trail nova]

i miss when we'd have china as a faction (PLA) and we'd drive chinese milk trucks around and the voice work sounded like slurs

[dusky arch]

yes now THAT sounds cool

[trail nova]

but it was a different era

[lavish wedge]

China's gaming market is too big, EA can't risk losing all that money

[dusky arch]

RIGHT NOW

[river fox]

BOBBY MOM?

[lavish wedge]

But seeing the PLA return would be so cool

[balmy sinew]

Sidenote: Let's be honest though BF4 campaign was a masterclass, straight cinema 🍿

[dusky arch]

anyone remember Ubi's early attempt at a NFS style game, Speed Demons?!

I should probably say one of Ubi's early attempts, but I'm not sure really but I'm guessing there were others

[trail nova]

yeah i saw the new map leaked on billibilli (chinese social media) and the chinese version of bf6 immediately reminded me of PLA because of the voice acting in it, made me laugh

[lavish wedge]

I wonder if RU will return, kinda unrealistic for them to be this quiet when NATO is literally falling apart

[robust knoll]

be cool if PAX was PMC Wagner instead

[dusky arch]

yeah i've been playing some RDR remaster and I"m in Mexico and I swear they are saying things in Spanish that sound like putdowns spoken in Engrish

[unkempt widget]

**"And with EA DICE doing things this way, employees can still earn their salaries. Once you’ve developed the mod platform, you could categorize it into two types:

Updates supported through player sponsorship.

Subscription-based mods that require payment (similar to the tipping culture in Western countries).

This way, those who know modeling and coding can develop mods for the game and earn money. Everyone would be motivated to learn and improve their skills, while also saving the company’s employees a lot of time so they can focus on meaningful work. As a result, your company’s stock price could rise significantly."**

[plush charm]

even wagner group orcs have better drip than pax

[hallow geode]

"Initial reactions have been positive, particularly around the overall scale and flow of the playspace. Players noted that the map feels familiar while still offering something new, including improvements to the northern town area and added cover that better supports infantry movement and engagements.
As with all Battlefield Labs content, Golmud Railway is still in active development. Some elements, such as the train that runs through the map, were not fully functional during the first session, but work is already underway to bring these features back for future sessions. We’ll continue testing Golmud Railway with our BF Labs participants and aim to provide updates in the future as the map continues to evolve."

[lavish wedge]

It would certainly be interesting, but I can see backlash

Feels wrong playing as a real life PMC that is known for commiting war crime

[trail nova]

6 months to get a train working you can't make this stuff up

[median merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/teehee-giggle-gif-26396918

[lavish wedge]

I mean Medal of Honor 2010 got criticized because we can play as the ISIS

[dusky arch]

[plush charm]

i mean don't we get to play as us military?
potatoe potato

[lavish wedge]

No no you don't get it, US is the good guy

[river fox]

Took the devs 2 months to put the square shape in the square hole

[trail nova]

thanks, i was about to say the same thing

[plush charm]

daddy can do no wrong

[balmy sinew]

S2 GONNA HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK! 🗣️🗣️

[lavish wedge]

Also Wanger can't be a full on faction, maybe a sub faction in the Russian army

I still hope that Russia makes a return in bf6

[trail nova]

hit the players straight out the park back to delta force and cod

[dusky arch]

Paradox does this sort of thing with Cities Skylines and EA did it unknowingly with SimCity4 and that was the last time they allowed that and now there is no Sim City (since 2013)

[balmy sinew]

Lol

[plush charm]

everyone has deniable proxies, it's hip to be paramilitary in 2026

[lavish wedge]

Diamond Dogs....

[plush charm]

"deniable" being the operative word

[unkempt widget]

"Letting players participate in development and mod creation is a win-win situation that makes everyone happy. I hope EA executives can hear this voice. Originally, I thought about treating this idea as a valuable asset and selling it to the most powerful people at EA—like a desert prince xD. But that’s probably just a dream (the reason I thought of doing this was to improve my family’s life)."

[balmy sinew]

Diamond Dogs forever ♾️

[lavish wedge]

Anyway, more factions would be cool

[median merlin]

Nice username

[unkempt widget]

!!!

[lavish wedge]

This might be controversial but I miss faction based maps

[trail nova]

this is a great idea if it was like 10-15 years ago or a company that isnt EA. pipedream these days. we would need an Indie studio to make a popular military shooter for this to fly

[dusky arch]

so what'll it be Georgie? bots or clones?

[lavish wedge]

Better ai for bots...

[river fox]

U trying to figure out what the DICE devs are?

[plush charm]

i like the bot AI that's no better than what we had in 2003 what you mean

[dusky arch]

heheh

[pure elk]

Yea no. This is a path to cheating like csgo

[lavish wedge]

True

[balmy sinew]

Who remembers assault cube?

[dusky arch]

do they even know yet?

[balmy sinew]

Crazy how much graphics have changed

[plush charm]

everything is AI this, AI that
and they still can't even upgrade the video game bots that people farm 10 million kills daily

[unkempt widget]

??

[median merlin]

I miss premium package

[plush charm]

it's kinda strange to me

[granite igloo]

I miss dice dropping content

[balmy sinew]

Than they go around saying they have a 5.0 kdr 😭

[median merlin]

Beatiful usermame hahahaha

[dusky arch]

oh they are working on it. TOP scientists

[granite igloo]

😂

[unkempt widget]

How could liberalization lead to cheating?

[plush charm]

look, at some point we do have to acknowledge that we are getting more maps than we ever did back in the day when it was like 2-3 per year
somewhere down the line we got spoiled

[lavish wedge]

I love fighting bots back in bf2, really suck that they haven't improved since

[plush charm]

but it's also not wrong to ask for more? with all of the big money these alleged AAA devs are hoovering up

[lavish wedge]

Ig they can sprint now, which is a +, bf2 bots never managed to do that

[gleaming quiver]

fighting bots = ok
mindlessly farming bots by spawnkilling them for xp = peak bf6 experience

[plush charm]

they can throw some money at generating content, just pump out trash who cares

[unkempt widget]

Sarcasm needs to be used, otherwise people will misunderstand xD

[river fox]

Someone definately mismanaging DICE if this is the sum of their work since November

[gleaming quiver]

dice went "howdy fellow kids" with redsec. nobody but bald boomers play BRs anymore

[balmy sinew]

They spoiled us with BF1 that was a project of love. We did not deserve BF1 it's too good.

6 campaign stories? 👀

[dusky arch]

battlefield zero is better with less calories

[plush charm]

it's like bring your kid to work day
but every day

[median merlin]

RedSh1t you mean?

[granite igloo]

Bfv was trash imo but it did have some passion in it

[gleaming quiver]

imagine making a hero shooter battlefield game lmfao how disconnected do you have to be

[hallow geode]

BF1 is like the red dead 2 of battlefields. A game that you can just can't wrap your head around how it looks so good graphically in such a massive game

[median merlin]

Exactly

[balmy sinew]

The specialist kits that spawned in BF1 were to OP when used correctly noticed how they never brought that back. BFV alright let's pack it up.

[median merlin]

2042

[plush charm]

patently false, i get screamed at by broccoli headed freaks every single day
just not in redsec cause no one uses mics
but every other BR yes

[hallow geode]

Delta force

[gleaming quiver]

the ONLY reason kids play it is cuz its free. make redsec cost 1$ and its a wasteland

[plush charm]

lol fair

[balmy sinew]

Lol so true 🤣

[trail nova]

ya if you win at redsec you're making school age kids cry. so dont be meanies

[median merlin]

[hallow geode]

People are on mic all the time in gauntlet. Probably because it's fun unlike the BR

[unkempt widget]

EA executives could also learn from Valve and Facepunch Studios by allowing players to create skins, sell them, or hold skin-voting events, and then take a percentage from the sales. This way, players can contribute creative content while the company benefits from the revenue."

[trail nova]

but then we'd have bf6 weapon skin gambling like in CS lmao

[median merlin]

Epic Games docet my friend

[hallow geode]

Thank God for gauntlet tho. At these hours right now literally no real players are in any multiplayer mode for me.

[unkempt widget]

"This approach is even better, as it gives everyone the opportunity to trade skins, while executives could still profit significantly in the background."

[dusky arch]

yeah just don't allow the trade in 3rd party

no offense asian character dude, i actually trust you right now

[unkempt widget]

Then the game company turns epic skins into a large number of obtainable trash items xD (players ultimately become a cash cow, exploiting them).

[trail nova]

asian man for president

[empty topaz]

I kind of wish Rainbow Six Siege stuck with the original darker concept, with those home‑invasion style missions. They toned it down, so that whole direction got cut… but I guess Ready or Not fills that gap well enough.

[dusky arch]

ok nevermind, lol

[unkempt widget]

"This is exactly the kind of people I know here, and the big bosses of the gaming companies
"Yep, that’s the crowd I know—and the big bosses of the game companies xD."xD."

[median merlin]

Nowadays everyone is trying to emulate the success of fortnite, we have skins, battlepass and microtransactions in every game

[trail nova]

taiwan number one!

[unkempt widget]

Thank you, please call me a business genius.

[trail nova]

hahaha

[pure elk]

Opening the game coding to players for mods etc.

[dusky arch]

again...outta control greed

[unkempt widget]

"These approaches are both win-win situations where no one loses. Once you realize that a game skin isn’t worth much, just sell it right away."
"It’s a win-win for everyone, nobody loses. If you figure out a skin isn’t worth much, just dump it fast."

[dusky arch]

casinos are great if thats your thing

[unkempt widget]

no no no I'm talking about the editor. (editor)

Sorry, my English isn’t very good. Maybe it’s because I haven’t been consistently using AI translation. I’m using AI translation to communicate with you."
"Sorry, my English isn’t great. I might not have been consistent with using AI translation, but I’m relying on it to communicate with you."

[pure elk]

You are wanting to monetize the game in players hands. Thats the worst thing they could do to this game. There is no world where players should have control or the ability to create and buy/sell skins etc and create an in game economy. At least this is what I’m getting from your idea

[dusky arch]

no one needs to mod the anti cheat

[dusky arch]

its fine. just not my cup of tea

[trail nova]

yup he wants to make money himself from the game to support his family, is the idea. using in-game economy

[river fox]

Get a job instead

[trail nova]

it's smart and would work but yea, quite different to what we're playing now

[pure elk]

Ya. Fuck no lol.

[unkempt widget]

"But this game has never really developed an esports scene, so it’s fine. Since everyone’s sense of aesthetics is different, to avoid player complaints, just let them do DIY. The skins sold in COD’s store are also created by players and provided to the developers for sale, with the company taking a cut. Many Asian game companies also follow this concept."

[dusky arch]

i mean if it were applied to a cool game i might play but i'm just afraid the content that I would want would be out of reach and distasteful

[trail nova]

yeah that's forward thinking, a lot of games already do this you're right. you're ahead of the curve on this

and the upside is you get a flood of content instead of nothing for months, like right now

[dusky arch]

but you did mention the voting in csgo and that could allieviate some of that maybe

[unkempt widget]

Game companies often make their modelers and animators sign unfair agreements xD

[trail nova]

same same in taiwan

[pure elk]

That’s the only place it’s common. There is a reason the rest of the world hasn’t taken the same concept

[empty topaz]

it's not uncommon in China but idk about Taiwan (sorry i replied to wrong person last time)

[unkempt widget]

However, a company as large as EA can break the unspoken rules of the gaming industry.

[pure elk]

Yes but when said diy stuff is presented to game you willing to pay hundreds of dollars for it? Have you seen the in game economy for csgo? Or any other gacha game?

[plush charm]

to be fair everyone has a big lull around the end of the year, for some reason the game industry is unlike any other highly seasonal job where they put the crunch on employees BIG time to rush the game to shelves when the kids are freshly back at school to get them talking
and then they get a month off for christmas, i've never had a job like that lmao

[dusky arch]

i mean valve isn't technically in Asia

and i would almost bet their some mobile company in NYC that we are all forgetting

[unkempt widget]

If you have the ability, you'll have the ability to earn more money. When all the modelers and animators in the world work for EA, EA's accumulated commissions will make him incredibly wealthy.
你有能力 你獲得錢的能力就要多
當世界上所有建模和動畫師都幫ea效力時
ea的積少成多的抽成 將能讓他富可敵國
當然前期為了不讓公司虧盈可以這樣自訂50% 50%
當ea有一堆建模跟動畫師在幫他工作時可以改成
1個好看的藝術ea抽20% 建模跟動畫師80%
這樣ea就有永遠用不完的錢開發好玩的bf系統

[balmy sinew]

Valve is still private or public?

I hope they never sell out. So they can keep control over the company.

[dusky arch]

lotta NY stock traders jumpin off roofs eh?

[empty topaz]

yep.

[dusky arch]

again, we'll i'll just put my a.i. to work on the csgo scene and stabilize that a bit hopefully

[sharp ruin]

i see our lfg has evolved into something, my bad, wrong channel

[balmy sinew]

I remember Valve was showcasing the steambox concepts with team fortress as a kind o mascot back in 2008-2009. Now steam is a household name. Crazy how they are making a steambox.

[unkempt widget]

omg rip

[trail nova]

im looking at a wechat screenshot confirming 15 kids offed themselves due to a policy update its insanity

[river fox]

Natural selection

[dusky arch]

makes ;me wanna go ......(can't say what )

[unborn rose]

rip discord next month

[trail nova]

without getting too much into the politik, apparently china youth unemployed is really bad, and kids were getting bank loans and hedging their bets on CS skins to make money (not fake)

[balmy sinew]

What do you mean? Are they gonna do facial scans?

[unborn rose]

yup or upload your government id

[unkempt widget]

The Chinese bureaucratic system makes people suffer, which is one reason why there are so many game studios in their game industry chain. Some people, in order to make money, believe in unorthodox remedies.
中國官僚體系 人民過得苦哈哈 所以這就是為什麼他們遊戲產業鏈很多遊戲工作室的原因之一
有些人為了轉錢 聽信了偏方

[balmy sinew]

😢

[trail nova]

israeli CEO bought the company and now everyone needs to provide biometric data to keep using the app. that is to say, discord is dead af

[balmy sinew]

What's next are they gonna buy VR chat so they can control everyone? Lol j.k

[river fox]

Most chinese gaming studios just target the west with predatory games. I dont like chinese studios

[trail nova]

i mean yeah probably

[unkempt widget]

This explains why a large number of hacks target Asia and China:
First, they have a large population; second, the education level of their rural population is not high; and third, those with power and ability are unwilling to advance and only want to use their power to bully others. Because all they want is money.
這也就是為什很多大量hack指向亞洲中國
第一他們人多 第二他們鄉村人口的知識水平不夠高
第三他們有權有能力的人不肯向上 只想用權勢欺人
因為他們要的都是錢

[trail nova]

but we're in a century of Chinese prosperity, so overall we're good 😎

[balmy sinew]

I know they are making a lot of money on VR chat whoever owns that is getting payed.

So discord is getting the team speak treatment/update 😢

[river fox]

China is in massive decline like Russia. They aren't producing enough men to continue positive growth

[unkempt widget]

這涉及很多因素 我不能講 我怕被別人說我有政治意圖然後就被禁言了 因為我之前在這裡 罵過ea高層xD
整整被禁足一年
This involves many factors, and I can't talk about it. I'm afraid people will say I have political intentions and I'll be banned from speaking because I previously criticized EA's top management here xD and was banned for a whole year.

Fortunately, I deleted that old account. This is my new account xD
所幸 我把那個舊帳號刪除了 這是我新的帳號xD

[dusky arch]

so Taiwanese rice cake dude, you are pretty informed. Just wanted to try out my google translate abilities. I was thinking it wouldn't work because it would be a proper name, but lo and behold!

Half LIfe 3 incoming!

[unkempt widget]

既然謾罵行不通 那我只好用我的畢生遊戲經驗 來創造奇蹟分享雙贏局面
Since insults won't work, I'll have to use my lifetime of gaming experience to create a miracle and achieve a win-win situation.

[river fox]

Easy to make money when you ignore IP and trademark laws and just copy everyone else's tech

[trail nova]

if google translate is right, i think taiwan guys name is mochi

[balmy sinew]

Crazy how they dropped (Valve) the best VR game of all time.

[trail nova]

ya HL alyx kicks ass

[balmy sinew]

I expect nothing less from the studio that brought us left for dead. Goated!

[dusky arch]

Taiwanese mochi is what i got and mochi translated to Japanese rice cake

[unkempt widget]

I know EA isn't a philanthropist; they're known as a "game development killer" company by gamers xD. If a game's IP isn't good, EA's top management will intervene and target them.
我知道ea不是一個慈善家 他是玩家口中的遊戲團隊殺手公司xD
者要遊戲團隊ip不好 就會被ea高層的魔手點名干預

[trail nova]

rofl dude japanese is not taiwanese tho careful its easy to get racist 🤣

[unkempt widget]

ye good

[trail nova]

@unkempt widget clear this up for us, is your name mochi?

[dusky arch]

no what i meant was when I copied the 4 character name it literally translated to Taiwanese mochi

[robust knoll]

who is MOCHI

[trail nova]

ohh got it

[unkempt widget]

ye

[dusky arch]

i assumed its like southern fried chicken

[trail nova]

nice to meet you brother man

[river fox]

Tamagotchi?

[unkempt widget]

取這個名稱就是要隨時提醒自己要像糯米一樣有彈性韌性 生活才不會有困難
The purpose of choosing this name is to constantly remind myself to be as elastic and resilient as glutinous rice, so that life won't be difficult.

[trail nova]

oh so @dusky arch was right, gg

[gleaming cape]

I am new to Operations mode. How does it work?

[dusky arch]

or like taco gringo ( a popular fast food joint in illinois where im from)

[trail nova]

im from australia. truly a global chat

[unkempt widget]

因為我生活 太過於 硬性 檢舉國家很多 非法事情 遭受到報復 所以我網名才叫這個xD
"Because my life has been too rigid—I reported many illegal activities in the country and suffered retaliation—that’s why my online name is what it is xD
My life has been very tough. After reporting many illegal activities in the country, I faced retaliation, which is why I chose this online name xD."

[sudden chasm]

there's people from all over the world here, which is nice

[river fox]

Reporting things to a corrupt government seems fairly pointless

[trail nova]

@unkempt widget any advice on how to get a nice wife? 🙏🏻 😎

[pure elk]

Unless you’re a kid you have nothing to worry about

[dusky arch]

i hate southern fried chicken

[outer fog]

what about northern fried chicken

[unkempt widget]

ye So now I'm addicted to the internet.

[dawn owl]

welcome to the West

[trail nova]

Korean fried chicken owns it chikin (치킨) or tongdak (통닭)

[dawn owl]

Korean fried chicken

[dusky arch]

damn right!

[river fox]

North Korean fried chicken?

[dawn owl]

Jolibee won best fried chicken in America 5 years in a row so Filipinos have the best fried chicken

[trail nova]

oooof

[empty topaz]

What about Northern Fried Chicken?

[unkempt widget]

我只知道 活到120歲的秘密 這是我們台灣爸爸nvidia問到的機密 就是多看美女
I only know the secret to living to 120 years—this is the confidential answer our Taiwanese father Nvidia asked about—it’s simply to look at beautiful women more often.
"The only secret I know to living to 120—something our Taiwanese dad Nvidia jokingly called a secret—is just to look at pretty women more often xD."

[trail nova]

lmao you are a bro, nice advice

[dusky arch]

seoul food bbq in St. Louis, MO -mmm, mmm good

[dawn owl]

Yeah so around 47% of Americans are obese, not a good look

[river fox]

Norse Korrea, souse korrea friends forever too

[empty topaz]

because it's more convienient lol. The government does that on purpose though but i won't go into it,

[unkempt widget]

What we can usually understand is called fine art, while what we cannot understand is called abstract art. So, you can choose to look at beautiful women, but don’t choose to marry a tigress and bring her home."
"If you can understand it, we call it fine art; if you can’t, we call it abstract art. So sure, enjoy looking at pretty women—but don’t end up marrying a tigress and taking her home."
我們 通常看得懂得叫美術
看不懂得叫藝術
所以 你可以選擇 看美女
但不要選擇娶一個 母老虎回家

[dawn owl]

yes its the government’s fault for the way you eat and don’t exercise

[trail nova]

i found out south korea is bad place with chaebols. basically whole country ran by 3 megacorps samsung, LG, SK

[empty topaz]

Well no, but many people are just naturally obese due to genetics

[dawn owl]

Samsung mainly, it makes like half their GDP

[dawn owl]

that’s the biggest cope I’ve ever read

[river fox]

Nobody is genetically fat af. Its all to do with calorific intake

[trail nova]

ye i had no idea i watched a documentary. is truly dystopian, school kids taking the "samsung exam" to get a job

[dusky arch]

sadly it is true. what is good for another is not for another. at least as I understand it

[dawn owl]

yeah fr. as much as i hit the gym, at the end of the day fitness is like 20% athletics 80% nutrition

[empty topaz]

than you don't understand how metabolism works

[dawn owl]

did you watch the Fern one? lol

[river fox]

How many fat etheopians you seen

[dawn owl]

considering that im actually healthy, i think i know enough to not be obese lol

[unkempt widget]

+1

[dusky arch]

now what is good in my love's eyes is another thing still

[unkempt widget]

xD

[dusky arch]

but love itself is evolving

[dawn owl]

i love Taiwan

[balmy sinew]

[trail nova]

yes actually!

[dawn owl]

dude Fern is great, Hoog is their other channel. not sure if it is truly but they do share the same narrators

[empty topaz]

Good for you, i'm not obese either but i know people who got their asses kicked by late metabolism and they used to be as skinny as a stick.

[tight prism]

When hit registration is so bad no one talks about bf6 anymore

[river fox]

Don't worry they'll do it in season 6

[balmy sinew]

Lol

[tight prism]

Not to mention that they are also a billion dollar company

[dawn owl]

EA is, not DICE

[tight prism]

I guess pushing cosmetics is more important than game design

[trail nova]

ooh nice, ty

[pure elk]

Why the fuck are we even talking about how obese Americans are? Racist

[dawn owl]

DICE is great

[river fox]

When has obese been a race?

[dawn owl]

😭

[outer fog]

cheeseburger would go crazy rn

[trail nova]

i just ordered chicken burgers

[plush charm]

i'm dummy thicc

[pure elk]

Not fat. Reported for harassment

[outer fog]

lucky af, enjoy o7

[trail nova]

noooooo please

[dawn owl]

Burger is good if you had less gluten bread. Sourdough is a good choixe

[pure elk]

Mods already deleted lol

[plush charm]

salami
salami
bologna

[empty topaz]

keep going

[dawn owl]

not even the original topic at all

[plush charm]

hamberder hotdog

[outer fog]

hamberder hotdog

[gleaming cape]

anyone know how operations mode work?

[river fox]

You know when gecko arrives the fun in discord just disappears

[pure elk]

No the rules just get followed

[trail nova]

yeah that was ROUGH

[dawn owl]

crazy that its become the norm now tho

[trail nova]

wannabe mod type of chatter ig

[river fox]

Like a black hole

[dusky arch]

I just wanna rock and roll all nite long.

[tight prism]

It’s also one of the many alt accounts he has

[pure elk]

Proof?

[dawn owl]

Yk you’re a problem if you need alts lol

[robust knoll]

fr

[trail nova]

it'll be good when discord dies in a month all these companies who set up official spaces will be a wasteland

[balmy sinew]

That's nasty work

[empty topaz]

idc to continue the conversation, if you haven't realized. i don't wanna get suspended for 10 days again for going off topic (BF6) again.

[plush charm]

alts are commonplace with the overbearing mods handing out permas like candy
don't hate the player, hate the game

[dusky arch]

the remaster rereleases were so lacking

[dawn owl]

dang, maybe you should check yourself more idk

[trail nova]

yeah tell me about it. this is a PG discord for a MA rated game it's nutty

[plush charm]

born to be a goofy goober
forced to make alts

[pure elk]

Discord isn’t dying. If you all actually followed posts and the news you would see discord already released a fact check that most users will never be asked to age check or show ID

[river fox]

Theres a reason discord mod memes exist

[dusky arch]

so back to mirc?

[empty topaz]

dude, that's the biggest cope i ever read lmaooooo. just cause i won't debate with you. crybaby

[dawn owl]

tbf, a lot more “damage” can be done here compared to in game so its understandable the mods are doing that

[pure elk]

There is also no rule against having multiple discord accounts. Discord has a built in account switcher for up to six I believe

[trail nova]

oh hello i log on to internet to spread misinformation. mate stop being a deadset flog

[plush charm]

it's true, discord collected all the unwashed and unwanted
the rejected reddit moderators

[robust knoll]

how many times you get banned from here

[dawn owl]

i just pointed out that your issues are not my issues 💀

[plush charm]

flunkie reddit mods are having a field day on this social media platform

[trail nova]

he just said six lmfao

[dusky arch]

ive never understood how the official discord is the most popular

[robust knoll]

yeah, offical discords are garbo

[pure elk]

Don’t assume everyone just full of it. https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally#age-assurance-clarification

[dawn owl]

this chat became a subreddit after launch, ppl just come here to complain about BF6 then sink another 12 hours into it. like we know it could be better ofc it can, i for one actually enjoy what DICE created

[river fox]

Cos ppl come hoping dice are making progress. Its like self flagellation

[plush charm]

this app will implode on itself and something else will rear its ugly head
not sure what it will be, time can only tell this one

[empty topaz]

you're assuming that i have annorexia? no... i said my buddies had low metobolism and then it kicked their asses later in life... it's like you can't read... that has nothing to do with annorexia, it has to do with gaining a big masss of weight after not gaining a pound for years

[trail nova]

anyway before this all goes downhill, @unkempt widget i sent you a nice gift in your DMs as a thank you for the good chat

[pure elk]

Banned? Zero

[dawn owl]

they just have a lot of ppl so ofc others will flock to it

[dawn owl]

can you find out where i said that? you’re reaching so hard lol

[balmy sinew]

This app will be a distant memory, like an ex you avoid but they keep texting you. Lol j.k

[trail nova]

hey my cheeseburger message actually got deleted? hi mods 👋🏻

[empty topaz]

than what do you mean by my problem? like what?

[dawn owl]

you getting banned? you mentioned yourself getting banned or muted or something. like i said, its not my problem so i don’t care lol

[river fox]

U made them dream of McDonald's

[pure elk]

Where did I say that? I said discord has an account switcher that pre saves six log ins so you don’t have to put password in every time . Has nothing to do with how many accounts I personally have or don’t have

[dawn owl]

atp its like you wanna argue with me over nothing, I’ve already moved on bro 💀

[trail nova]

six bans for being annoying breaking rules yep i can see that, thanks you wrecked the chat

[empty topaz]

well i was just adding context because you brought up twice that i was off topic and replied to the same msg twice about it.

[pure elk]

Never been banned.

[midnight harbor]

if we dont get ranked or news for tourney redsec is dead

[dawn owl]

big guy, move on. please. 💀

[trail nova]

[dawn owl]

i think Steam is the only company who does that

[balmy sinew]

The storylines will draw you in, the character development is 10/10 😂🗣️!

[empty topaz]

or just chill out, why did you even bring up obesity in the first place? no one was even talking about that

[dawn owl]

actually, you did 😭

[robust knoll]

@empty topaz @dawn owl date already

[empty topaz]

nope, you did

[hazy stag]

anyone got an idea if its still possible to get on the roofs in cairo?

[dawn owl]

i want this guy to leave me alone lol, he’s still upset

finally someone with a brain

[trail nova]

im crying lmao

[hazy stag]

anyone got an idea if its still possible to get on the roofs in cairo?

[dawn owl]

see you next week @river fox 💀

[pure elk]

That’s different than calling an entire nation

[dawn owl]

no one did that. the statistics did lol

[trail nova]

Original message was deleted going crazy rn

[river fox]

See you next tuesday

[pure elk]

And you used it to discriminate

[dawn owl]

discriminate who??

[pure elk]

Americans

[dawn owl]

victim card is going so crazy rn, im American too 💀

[river fox]

It was too quick to stop

[dawn owl]

they should just buff the headshot damage for ammo types. the way it stands, there’s no point running them if its still 4 shots to kill

[hot hemlock]

where do i go to report a bug?

[trail nova]

oh yeah video games

[robust knoll]

ammo types are useless rn

[dawn owl]

yeah at most I’ll use penetration or lightweight just to get draw speed or when I prefire obstacles

[empty topaz]

Ea Forums website https://forums.ea.com/category/battlefield-6-en/discussions/battlefield-6-general-discussion-en

[hot hemlock]

thanks homie

[river fox]

You cant use lightweight ammo its discriminating against the other types

[dusky arch]

[dawn owl]

crap you got me bro

[trail nova]

🤣

[robust knoll]

reported

[dawn owl]

im not promoting ammo positivity

ammo really does need a rework tho

[river fox]

I hope you aren't using a heavy barrel aswell

[lavish wedge]

I still find it funny that despite having 12 Ex NATO nations backed, they still rely on import foreign vehicles from Singapore and Russia

[robust knoll]

stock attachments shouldn't cost points

[dusky arch]

🍻

[quick hill]

[dawn owl]

no i use lightweight barrel too 💀

[robust knoll]

pure mobility build or ?

[gleaming quiver]

make jets great again

[balmy sinew]

🍻

[dawn owl]

light or fluted barrel and lightweight rounds, maybe I am discriminating after all 💀

[trail nova]

[dawn owl]

yessir, but i still run a grip cuz i have points leftover. i usually prioritize fast mags and mag catch, then lightweight. recoil is pretty much nonexistent as it is since its a battlefield game

[robust knoll]

short barrel, CQB suppressor, 20 round mag, lightweight rounds, laser, angled grip

[balmy sinew]

🤤

[trail nova]

angled is a scam, use handstop, cheaper and just as good

[dawn owl]

i took off the suppressor to save points since flash hiders conceal on map. ppl don’t pay attention to their audio cues half the time anyway and run to the forums saying audio is broken

[robust knoll]

I wonder, if the weapon draw speed even increases 🤨

[trail nova]

it doesnt, angled is an actual scam. trust

[robust knoll]

on the angled

[dawn owl]

is this for the 417 or something else?

[robust knoll]

m417 and m4 🚬

[dawn owl]

Bro great minds think alike

[robust knoll]

iron sights bby

[dawn owl]

I run flash hider, green laser, 40 fast mags, mag catch, irons all day everyday

[trail nova]

found an outdated emote, can remove it

[hollow jasper]

NGL audio cues is often how I get the one up in CCQ fire fights, I'll hear them running up on me and lay in wait or hunt em down from their T H U D T H U D T H U D D I N G foot steps

[hollow jasper]

I think most people also don't use war tapes/ war tapes val

[gleaming quiver]

i use war tapes

[plush charm]

every gun gets suppressor, long barrel, big mag, 1.5x thermal, and the cheapest little foregrip that you have the points left for
almost no exceptions

[dawn owl]

Idky ppl go for all the tacticool setups lol, it just hinders them at the end of the day. Unlike IRL where they can train with their setups and get comfortable with it

[trail nova]

yup thats me. headphones cranked, footsteps, me pre-fire out of a corner as he comes around. TTK drops him instantly. GG reload

[dawn owl]

Exactly man, see you understand 🤝

[robust knoll]

m4a1 has 80 mobility

[hollow jasper]

That's more or less what I do as well lol, the tvr-7 is the goat for getting the quick drops

[gleaming quiver]

none of you use sound to get advantage in infantry stop capping

[trail nova]

to the point where my buddies on discord are yelling at each other to shut up because cant hear footsteps of dudes coming hahaha

[robust knoll]

i'm listening to PHONK fr

[dawn owl]

i added the 10 point foregrip literally just for precision but I swap it out with mount when playing assault

[gleaming quiver]

what the

[trail nova]

yeah it's solid, i moved from that to KORD

[river fox]

What u mean fix air radar, its never worked

[dusky arch]

anybody play with that 7.1.4? im dying to know how it is?

[hollow jasper]

I'll turn down YouTube videos and stuff or tell my partner to stop talking for a minute 😂😂😂😂

[dawn owl]

Tank Triad (slowed) and Pardontekk are my 2 most played rn

[gleaming quiver]

it did in bf4

[hollow jasper]

I like the 20 pt no accuracy reduction for grip

[dawn owl]

ew

[robust knoll]

KORD bros

[hollow jasper]

I'm leveling the m277 rn, I don't think I'll touch the kord lowkey lol

[trail nova]

it's a KORD life

[neat trench]

Can't believe Season 2 is around the corner and we still have the invisible hands bug. Having a bug so consistently on screen is very annoying

[dawn owl]

ngl with the Famas and Evo 3 coming, we’re gonna have more aggressive weapons this season. Cheers to us @robust knoll @hollow jasper

[trail nova]

actually thought that was just me, thanks for mentioning it

[dawn owl]

i have never once had that issue. is that with a specific skin?

[robust knoll]

run n gun bros, are we back?

[dawn owl]

never left 🥹

[neat trench]

Doubt it is a specific skin, too consistent

[river fox]

Your hands holding the wrong gun

[dawn owl]

i never had that problem but i use very specific skins so idk

i also only use like 7 guns

[robust knoll]

buff sidearms please

[trail nova]

btw i better share this funny strat. 3 of us on breakthrough, defending. ALL went mortar right, setup and spammed the crap out of it. caused so much screen shake no one could aim, killed entire enemy team repeatedly. i finished round 43 - 0. synchronized mortars are insanely stupid fun, you should try it

[neat trench]

Well thanks for mentioning, I'll see if I can narrow it down to skins

[dawn owl]

For anyone who does care about audio cues, getting a DAC actually changed a lot for me. I didn’t really enjoy BF6’s audio either and thought it was spotty but getting a DAC made it so much cleaner and more accurate

[robust knoll]

I got it too, forgot which skin it was

[dawn owl]

Digital audio sounds so trash to me now

[robust knoll]

😭

[trail nova]

handstop OP

[neat trench]

I've spent too many hours trying to make the mortar work, either I suck or it sucks cause it is almost impossible to kill consistently

[balmy sinew]

For 10 points? Sign me up 👀

[dawn owl]

it all comes down to preference bro, there honestly isn’t a wrong answer here but if you do experience a lot of recoil its most likely due to your optic. this might be a little harsh but i wouldn’t listen to the opinions of the average player. they’re exactly that, the average player

[neat trench]

Which map was this?

[trail nova]

okay so on your own it's horrible because doesnt hit for enough damage. but you get a mode where they clump up like breakthrough, synchronize 3 of them so you hit, next guy gets the kill you get assist, then stay on the same spot they come to rez. suddenly multikills. we were laughing so much on voice chat

[robust knoll]

most optics are garbage anyway, terrible glass or reticle etc

[trail nova]

all of them but the best we did was on blackwell

[dawn owl]

yeah, and it shakes a lot for no reason. its a lot more stable than that IRL

[neat trench]

The synchronization is via voice or is there in game UI?

[robust knoll]

must be fitted by a califorian fr 😭

[trail nova]

we're always on voice yeah. game UI doesnt show other mortars on the map it would be sick if it did

oh and then other team tries to set up mortar to counter you, but you can see them immediately on mini-map so target them with 3 mortars and blow them away, its so satisfying

[robust knoll]

i'll allow that build

[dawn owl]

speaking of which, i miss the days when cyclic rate on semi auto weapons were as fast as we could click. sure there were some issues but the devs could at least increase the rate a bit or add match triggers. sidearms are so disappointing rn that i cant use anything other than the Trait or M44. I would rather reload if i didn’t have revolvers

[robust knoll]

yeah, the capped ROF on the semis is annoying af. The 1911 is awful

[balmy sinew]

MP7 light grip, 41 extended magazine, green laser, reflex sight, slow health Regen rounds. I call it "Mei's MP7 Mod" thank me later.

[neat trench]

I almost always have bot lobbies and still fail to get kills. For something that isn't insta kill, they could of made it faster or more accurate

[dawn owl]

i dont use LMGs a lot but the two I use are the M110 and M123K if I really need the ammo capacity but that’s it. being more aggressive with a faster reload is always my priority since getting up in ppl’s face + movement will grant me more success

[robust knoll]

the glock .40 doing the same damage etc

[trail nova]

it would be OP if it was any better. it's designed to be used in pairs i think

[dawn owl]

yeah i don’t understand why we got a .40 cal glock lol

G18 my beloved, please come back

[robust knoll]

Delta Force did sidearms right...

[trail nova]

all the sidearms are shite im just using the trait revolver for shits n gigs rn

[neat trench]

Seems to be the case

[dawn owl]

i nvr got into it, i tried uninstalling and it was such a hassle to get rid of their background service and anticheat. i cant trust it after that experience

[robust knoll]

-1000 credits to you

[trail nova]

na delta force is lit bruv

[dawn owl]

Trait and M44. My only complaint is not being able to 1 tap ppl with the Trait but at the same time we get a faster reload, more ammo, and better hipfire so ig its a good tradeoff

[neat trench]

I am really hoping we get a gas grenade

[dawn owl]

maybe for the game mode only

[gleaming quiver]

why? they suck

[robust knoll]

for the vibes

[fresh cloud]

Dont count on it lol

[dawn owl]

I honestly don’t think DICE thought this through by making Season 2’s theme about gas and also releasing a map in Germany…

[neat trench]

The incendiary grenade is so good for pressure. Would love other classes to have access to it, should it be reskinned as gas

[robust knoll]

, perhaps they did tho

[trail nova]

you know whats good when you know theres dudes corner camping so you throw 2 stun nades in, they cant ADS in and you slide around corner get a quick double kill

[dawn owl]

Smoke nade extinguishes incendiary

[dawn owl]

Frags >

[neat trench]

Wow, thanks for this random tip!

[gleaming quiver]

someone never played cs 🧐🤯

[robust knoll]

frags and the HE launcher are terrible, small radius

[dawn owl]

Why risk them shooting back when you can suppress them in cover and throw a nade. Either they catch a bullet or they catch shrapnel

[dawn owl]

I still use it for suppression but yeah they suck. They were rly good in the beta but ig ppl complained about it too much

[gleaming quiver]

HELLO THERE DICE. FIX AIR RADAR AND LET US ENJOY THE JETS LIKE WOW ITS ALREADY AN OPTION JUST FIX IT SO IT WORKS

[neat trench]

Why would I if I can play BF 😉

[robust knoll]

nerf air radar

[gleaming quiver]

🤯😱😱🤯😱🤯😱😱🤯🤯🤯😱🤯😱🤯

[dawn owl]

Ban radar, its unfair. The Su-57 has the RCS of a submarine

Fire support can just change it in the first loadout instead

[fresh cloud]

I just use a suppressor lol

[trail nova]

someone explain whats wrong with air radar

[robust knoll]

buff AA please, I get farmed by air too much!

[dawn owl]

Im making a joke about how the Su-57 is supposed to be “stealth.” In game tho I use flash hider since it hides you from map and its cheaper

[balmy sinew]

[dawn owl]

Dude I was grinding engineer mastery. I sat in a Gepard the whole game with supply box and if my missiles missed, I jumped out with Stinger lol

Got 20 aircraft kills in one conquest

Knocked the challenged out so quick

[fresh cloud]

Ohh lol. I dont even use air vehicles for combat in the game lol. Not enough breathing room imo, but I use them all the time for dropping in lmao

[robust knoll]

nice, reminds me of BF4, were you'd break the lock with the Igla before locking back on once the flares were gone

[trail nova]

you're lucky. when i do that they stop spawning in air

well that sounds horse shit

[dawn owl]

Oh I meant the Su-57 irl is supposed to be “stealth” lol

[robust knoll]

nothing is stealth today

[trail nova]

jets are now ubers confirmed

[devout light]

Did they revert breakthrough back to 64 players or is it still 48?

[dawn owl]

Cap, the F-22 is still the most lethal fighter for a reason

[neat trench]

I can't believe a bot managed to steal the helicopter while I was spamming the button. Why we can't take control really frustrates me

[trail nova]

maybe its best air-to-air

[devout light]

I thought all maps was 48, that's good to know

[dawn owl]

Yeah im still pissed that Rush is 32 players when that was my #1 mode in BF3 and BF4. Kharg Island and Damavand Peak my beloved

[robust knoll]

F-35s weren't flying into a certain country for a reason

[dawn owl]

they don’t need to with their avionics and EW suite

[trail nova]

yeah exactly it's hard to say f-22 is best fighter when the f-35 is right there...

[fresh cloud]

I mean, technically... it may be loud asf, but I dont think it has any lights on it for identification, and its fast as fuck, plus how slim it is makes it harder to see in certain scenarios, especially at night.

[dawn owl]

Not difficult at all because they’re built for 2 different roles

[dawn owl]

no like its RCS and design make it impractical to qualify as a Gen 5 fighter

The F-35 is even louder than the Su-57, its one of the loudest jets

[trail nova]

shame that the J-20 dragon is better than both then eh. sure is a year of chinese prosperity

[dawn owl]

Something that hasn’t been proven at all either

[fresh cloud]

Reminds me of the F-160 Raiju from GTA Online lol

[dawn owl]

F-35 is built for its interoperability, F-22 is purely dominance

Its kinda funny tho because the F-35 is pretty much the modern day F-4 Phantom

[ionic shard]

Its engine is really massive. Had a chance to experience it, compared to an F-16, F-35 sounds like a monster

[trail nova]

nah bro i fly them in simulator and j-20 has the edge. trust

[dawn owl]

please tell me you suffered some hearing loss or else it wasn’t worth it

[dusk sandal]

I always had that thought, purely on the nose. Dunno how, but that's how I've felt for the longest time lol

[tight prism]

bring premium back tired of these dumb worthless updates

[ionic shard]

Nah I'm already used to it, I live in a city where so many NATO exercises take place.

[dawn owl]

Yeah pretty sensible considering it was supposed to be a universal airframe for both the AF and Navy, and now the F-35 is too

[trail nova]

j-20 thrust vectoring is actually insane like nothing else. believe

[fresh cloud]

Oklahoma?

[dusk sandal]

Oh and guys, quick question: when you equip the Bipod, what guns have it tucked outwards, and what others have it tucked inwards?

[ionic shard]

Bro I'm from Turkey 😭🙏

[dawn owl]

I got to see some F-22s flying around in the Cali desert last year since there’s a lot of bases here

[fresh cloud]

Dark or light meat?

[dawn owl]

The J-20 has TVC? Since when? Has it always had TVC? 💀

[dusk sandal]

I have a friend who plays BF6, but I don't, and I dunno how certain attachments interact with certain guns

[ionic shard]

light meat obv lulz

[trail nova]

ye always

[dawn owl]

just don’t use a bipod, there’s no point since you can mount your gun anyways

[fresh cloud]

My dyslexia made me see your name as Vipersnook these past few days so thats what im gonna call you from now on. I hope thats okay.

[dusk sandal]

They aren't for the purpose of gameplay. What I do want, actually, is screenshots of the builds in the gunsmith lol

[dawn owl]

what simulator are you using? plz dont say DCS, unless you’re in the USAF or PLAAF I highly doubt you’re flight simming an accurate J-20, not mention the F-22 also has TVC

[ionic shard]

nah I'm good lol dont worry

[dusk sandal]

So that's why I'm asking abt the Bipod

[ionic shard]

Afaik J-20 doesn't have TVC but they are still working on it

[dawn owl]

im not even sure since I’ve nvr touched the bipods but maybe the 240 and 250 have it forward?

[trail nova]

the sim name is classified but j-20 is real shit f-22 has TVC yes but nothing like the tech in j-20 its something else

[fresh cloud]

What about a tripod 👉 👈

[robust knoll]

Ahh, the MiG 1.44 Flatpack huh

[dusk sandal]

Deployable tripods for Recon sounds kinda cool, ngl

[dawn owl]

I figured cuz there’s absolutely no way, all the pictures I’ve seen don’t even look like they have it. I doubt Russia gave them the technology either

[ionic shard]

lmao seriously J-20 looks so much like Mig 1.44

[dawn owl]

Im assuming you actually study and flown these aircraft cuz you’re making some insane claims rn

[robust knoll]

classic

[trail nova]

oop prolly said too much. anyways chat later bros

[dawn owl]

My question is why does Sukhoi use Su-47 in their logo if it nvr entered service

[robust knoll]

leak it to warthunder bro

[trail nova]

again?

[fresh cloud]

Tbh... I kinda want a deployable turret

[dawn owl]

fr, gaijin might drop 5th gens this year

[ionic shard]

Its interesting Chinese aircraft has surpassed their Russian counterparts at almost everything except engines, like they are still to figure out TVC

[dawn owl]

DICE should bring back fortifications like BFV

[dawn owl]

But their aircraft carriers bro, they have the best military 😂

[fresh cloud]

That'd be sick... at least when the bigger maps start rolling around

[robust knoll]

@dawn owl probably got @trail nova disappeared

[gleaming quiver]

all that and NOTHING about air radar???

[dawn owl]

Didn’t they just recently to a purge too? 💀

[gleaming quiver]

excuse me what?

[trail nova]

nah all good, its my fault if i get too chatty

[ionic shard]

Jokes aside, China has got quite a gigantic military for their region

[robust knoll]

👀

[dawn owl]

They do, but so does Russia and both nations face the same problem. Geography

[trail nova]

they have built an insanely scaled airforce so fast its actually terrifying

[gleaming quiver]

YO WHAT I MIGHT ACTUALLY START PLAYING AGAIN this is the first time im hearing of this. man am i glad i replied to you

[dawn owl]

They did model it after the USAF, for all the copying they do its a legitimate strategy

[fresh cloud]

Yeah but its all propaganda what you see. They may look like the most skilled soldiers you've ever seen but its mainly theatrics for propaganda... Russia does the same thing

[robust knoll]

it's over

[pure elk]

Because this isn’t those games.

[tiny wind]

It worries me that nobody, including dice, seem to be attentive to the single biggest factor creating bad rounds of bf6 for me: Unbalanced teams. The majority of rounds seem to be a landslide for either team, but Battlefield is at its best when a round is a close call.

[dawn owl]

boutta convince the whole lobby to run stingers

[ionic shard]

The thing about their air force is, J-20 and J-35 are probably not as good as their US counterparts. But their production rates are abysmal. And afaik a USAF official have already stated that.

[trail nova]

yep and it comes down their execution which is fantastic. those j-20s last i heard they already built 380 of them and are retrofitting TVC tech like i said, scary af

[dawn owl]

Yeah but that means SBMM comes back and the community doesn’t want that. I seem to be the only person in favor of it

[robust knoll]

damn, I wish I could fly

[gleaming quiver]

he'll yeah boi i love EA and saudi arabia and jared kushner

[fresh cloud]

You can, but only once.

[tiny wind]

It doesn't. It just means you try to shuffle squads between teams just before round start. No matchmaking change is needed.

[ionic shard]

I mean, every nation do that.

[robust knoll]

do it for the 'gram

[fresh cloud]

Not really lol. Canada doesnt at all.. you wouldn't even know they had a military.

[rich torrent]

They never used SBMM, it was team balancing which BF6 has but it is terrible.

[trail nova]

it might make you feel safer to say china military is all theater and propaganda but i got some bad news for you. they dont fuck around

[hollow jasper]

I'm very excited for that croatian famas lol the game play leaks I've seen of it made it seem really awesome

[robust knoll]

CROATIAN??

[dawn owl]

How would you automatically determine that? And what about those playing with their friends? The community just needs to get better or you can cherrypick lobbies

[tiny wind]

There are some good portal servers to help you practice your flying. Best way to get your wings before trying it in a real game.

[ionic shard]

Ehh, Canada doesn't have quite a reason to do that so, yep lol

[robust knoll]

🤣 , yeah fr, I've seen some n00bs crash into the ground many times

[hollow jasper]

Yeah the VHS-2 is croatian

[robust knoll]

please add the Bulldog from BF4 🙏

[trail nova]

if any of you were here when i said i ordered chicken burgers they still havent arrived 😭

[ionic shard]

Btw seriously can we have a Server browser already I'm tired of ts

[tiny wind]

I'd use background statistics on players: Score per minute, kdr etc. and shift whole squads, not individual players around until you have two teams whose stats average out to about the same.

[fresh cloud]

They still do a lot though, but they're more on the silent side of things.

[gleaming quiver]

SERVER BROWSER NOW

[robust knoll]

new name for you after radar fix?

[gleaming quiver]

ACE23

[dawn owl]

Im not saying they’re incapable but they are literally geographically challenged. They’re contained by the first island chain, similar to Russia which has no access to warm water ports and have too large of a country. Due to these reasons they cant even project power on the scale that the USA can, America’s geography make it the strongest military power not to mention that its the dominant power on its side of the world. Militarily an economically whereas the EU and Asian-partners rival china

[trail nova]

cool how the server browser worked good 22 years ago in bf2 beta but today in 2026 its a load of turds on my screen

[hollow jasper]

It's already in the game it's the tvr-7

[ionic shard]

Probably they are afraid of how all other modes will look dead right after they bring Server Browser

[gleaming quiver]

lmfao i was just thinking of changing it 💀

[gleaming cape]

at what level do we get red badge?

[gleaming quiver]

50

[robust knoll]

thanks

[hollow jasper]

Mid 250s

[tiny wind]

'Community needs to get better' is a nonsense argument, and cherrypicking lobbies is at best a terrible player experience.

[trail nova]

true but then china says fuck this and builds a new island for military bases to project power

[hollow jasper]

I'm in the top 3% of users globally with it tee hee

[gleaming cape]

thanks. I mistook it for 200 and was shocked to not get it

[gleaming quiver]

my conspiracy is that they just dont want a healthy community because they plan to move to another title quickly but i hope im wrong

[trail nova]

nerd 🤓

[dawn owl]

that just seems like an entirely new can of worms. There are sometimes stomps yes and almost all the time I need to carry my team to a win but i dont think what you’re suggesting will have a great execution. good intentions yes, execution tho..

[gleaming quiver]

like, theres no argument a healthy community with their own servers and all. portal aint it

[tiny wind]

Making another game is a lot more expensive than making seasons with cosmetics for an existing one.

[hollow jasper]

I just think it's neat

[gleaming quiver]

not if its an AI slop

[dawn owl]

and they still cant do that past the first island chain. unless china conquers or befriends their neighbors, they will remain a regional power

[fresh cloud]

Yeah, the community is mostly just casual gamers. Reddit and discord are only about 10% of the actual community

[tiny wind]

We all saw how that worked out for Blops 7...

[hollow jasper]

Dang it's almost like things exist within the context of what came before them, and the environment they're from

[gleaming quiver]

so real brother. btw you better not be capping about air radar i cant find anything about it

[robust knoll]

only the best are here 😎

[dawn owl]

Atm BO7 and BF6 are near the same avg daily players….i still think BO7 is trash ofc but those numbers kinda raise eyebrows

[gleaming quiver]

didnt it sell alot despite being crap

[hollow jasper]

Delta force OP with 3.2x daily player peak LMAO

[tiny wind]

Worst selling cod in 20 years.

[robust knoll]

fellow DF player? 🤝

[hollow jasper]

I am lol, I like think it's alright. I like the maps though, they're really good, and I like how snipers are balanced ie no sweet spot mechanic, and I mainly play with sniper rifles lol

[gleaming quiver]

lmao damn. well good

[dawn owl]

cuz its free and more of the Chinese playerbase is on it. but the game is good for what it is at least, gotta give it the credit it deserves

[fresh cloud]

Cold War was the last decent COD imo

[robust knoll]

yeah, very good for a F2P game, good gunsmith

[hollow jasper]

Oh I agree with that, both of the things

A lot of people like to shit on DF because 1 it's free 2 because it's Chinese and 3 because it's Chinese and free, and refuse to look past any of those things

[dawn owl]

Yeah i actually enjoyed CW, it was pretty good for only taking 5 months to develop and entirely through remote work because of covid. I think the effort it took to make the game was a feat on its own

[robust knoll]

I believe most of the chinese players are on a different client for DF?? Garena or something?

[ionic shard]

I don't think they really want to move another title quickly. Because if they mess this one like 2042 and V they are really done for it. But I don't think this is the case because BF6 is based on solid foundations unlike 2042 and V. I think they are just skeptical and afraid in general because of the absolute mess up in previous two

[dawn owl]

Im not sure, but the sheer amount of chinese players there are really do make an impact

[trail nova]

yea u dont want to play with chinese they cheat like crazy lmao

[tiny wind]

There's room for getting a roundstart team balancer wrong for sure, but to me, allowing the team lottery persist so most games involve one team getting utterly stomped is not a viable path. That's why it worries me that Dice seems oblivious to it.

[fresh cloud]

I miss the Miami map so much that I might repurchase CW... that map alone is worth the $80 lmfao

[robust knoll]

yeah, operations is infested I hear

[dawn owl]

Its a great thing they have a collective agreement on the path moving forward rather than one man’s opinion right…?

[tiny wind]

That's also why the maps are smaller. It's to get far away from one of 2042's biggest mistakes

[gleaming quiver]

bro if they plan on solid foundations they better let us have a server browser and a community server

what a homie bro ty

[dawn owl]

I only liked BF2042 because that was the last time I got to use the XM25 lol. The camper deleter

[robust knoll]

bro, it's OVER

[pure elk]

Your opinion. Games evolve

[ionic shard]

Thats probably an EA thing. BFV looked so dead when you seaeched up for servers after a few months of release.

[dawn owl]

Bring back XM25 and USAS-12 FRAG ROUNDS

[tiny wind]

Hell no.

[tight prism]

bring back premium!

[dawn owl]

I like pain.

[robust knoll]

disgusting

[ionic shard]

2042 was pure trauma for DICE, hence I could understand why are skeptical in general.

[dawn owl]

XM25 at least for the campers

[fresh cloud]

It's so satisfying to kill campers lying down in a corner in BF6 lol. Grabbing someone's Dogtag is the new t-bag lol, so disrespectful and i love it

[gleaming quiver]

even bf4 looks POPPING rn when you look for servers and theres no crossplay

[tight prism]

15 bucks for 4 maps a few new guns and new vehicles is much better then 10 dollars for chatgpt ai slop skins!

[pure elk]

No

[rich torrent]

Before adding more weapon pick ups, we need them to actually add them back in general lmao. They were back for a day and then gone again.

[dawn owl]

i love snagging dogtags too cuz i remember in MW2019 ppl would leave the lobby so you wouldn’t get an execution

[tight prism]

broke?

[tiny wind]

Don't matter. So long as there's enough players to get games going, we can play. We're at the tail end of a long first season, of course there's player drop off.

[gleaming quiver]

real

[pure elk]

Irrelevant. Free better than $

[dawn owl]

Cant wait for the player surge next week, im excited for the new season

[robust knoll]

[trail nova]

the amount of times im lying in a pile of bodies shooting guys as they run over the top of me. then 1 guy i shot comes back and knifes me hahaha

[tight prism]

free maps and 8 months keep eating that slop

[dawn owl]

Gotta love SND lobbies

[rich torrent]

DICE are making more money than ever before and look at the content we're getting, why would going back to a less profitable system improve that?

[ionic shard]

Most server admins are fxking botting their server player numbers. When you look in battlelog its not that impressive at all

Same thing happens in BF1 too

[fresh cloud]

Lmaooooo I do the same shit 😅😅 i think the other bodies disappearing give us away lmao

[tiny wind]

Knifing bush monsters is my favourite bf6 hobby.

[gleaming quiver]

im talking about battlelog but yes youre right the botting shows there too i forgot about that

[tight prism]

clearly not if this is all they can muster bring back premium!

[fresh cloud]

Snipers are my worst enemy, I go full Rambo on them.

[rich torrent]

But they are, hence why season passes are dead. It's nothing to do with how they sell it and more to do with how the industry standard is shifting.

[trail nova]

i snipe now and then, the SVK DMR is absolutely busted, no glint and 2shot everyone with 10x scope

[pure elk]

Ask them on all three accounts. Maybe they will listen

[rich torrent]

Battlefield 6 is EAs best selling game ever - yet look at the quality and quantity of content we are getting. It has absolutely nothing to do with money or how they sell it.

[tight prism]

?

[fresh cloud]

Goddamn lmao gonna have to give that a try.

[tiny wind]

Premium served to split the players into those who paid extra and those who bought the game. Entirely anti player system that also led to a bunch of maps having no players.

[trail nova]

yea i picked it up because i noticed when i got sniped most times it wasnt a sniper rifle, it was the SVK

[rich torrent]

Also this.

[ionic shard]

Imo people clearly overexpected what Season 2 would bring. They probably started development of Season 2 around launch of the game and feedback was so little at that time. Season 3 should be the season where we start to see drastical changes. But if we won't then yeah we are so done for lol.

[rich torrent]

The content will not get better by DICE bringing back Premium. Quality and quantity starts with their standards and those are extremely bad now a days.

[trail nova]

BRO 1 map is just sad like i call my therapist, say "dice only made 1 medium size map for season 2" and she increases my medication it's shocking

[ionic shard]

2 maps, other is quite similar to Operation Locker

[rich torrent]

Content quantity will not change, ever.

[tiny wind]

Also, to burst your little nostalgia bubble: Half the BF4 DLC maps sucked, and you PAID for those. And even the good maps were good in one, maybe two game modes.

[rich torrent]

Get use to 2 maps every 3 months.

[trail nova]

getting stuff that we can decide is good or bad is WAY more enjoyable than getting nothing

[ionic shard]

Premium is not a better alternative and I think BF1's first year already showed that

Premium was good BF3 and BF4, but not for today.

[fresh cloud]

I played Golmud Railway the other day again on BF4... I'm not too excited for that lol. I hope they make it a lot better.... the vehicles killed it lmao

[tight prism]

they all were pretty great tho?

[tiny wind]

I prefer not getting rubbish in the first place, and I trust map designers more to tell a toss map from a good one than anyone else.

[rich torrent]

Less profitable and splits the player base - people just can't think for themselves to understand that industry standards can be extremely low and they can get away with it because we will buy into it regardless.

Look at how terrible loot boxes were and look at how many people bought them. We can only blame ourselves.

[fresh cloud]

I'm not even gonna do this playtest on the 13th lol... might as well just wait for the 17th

[rich torrent]

Vehicles are half the game broski.

[fresh cloud]

Yep, Cod Points

[ionic shard]

Fortnite was humanity's biggest mistake

[tiny wind]

Dragon Valley? Lumphini Garden? Whiteout? Each DLC pack of 4 maps had at least one utter garbage one.

[fresh cloud]

But shouldn't be the whole game with every single player in a vehicle. There was only like 2 people playing infantry 😅😅

[ionic shard]

in the name of tsar DLC was pure garbage in BF1 as well

[tight prism]

Dragon Valley was free the other two weren't that bad...map quality is subjective either way. Even going by that logic we still got 3 good maps each dlc

[ionic shard]

DLCs in general were not perfect at all

[rich torrent]

There is only 10 vehicles per side and it is a vehicle map, what do you expect?

[fresh cloud]

I legged it and had more fun lol

[tiny wind]

I think they got the land vehicle very right in bf6, very powerful if well used and supported, but scrapped in the blink of an eye if not.

[tight prism]

they did not

[rich torrent]

Sounds like Battlefield isn't your type of game honestly.

[fresh cloud]

Because I enjoy playing Infantry? That's a dumb take, ngl

[tiny wind]

And hey, there's infantry only game modes if you don't fancy vehicles. It's fine!

[rich torrent]

Because you're complaining about vehicles when it is half the game and complaining about vehicles on a map made for vehicles. THAT is a dumb take.

That's like complaining about infantry on an infantry map.

[fresh cloud]

Its not exclusively made for vehicles though lmao.

[rich torrent]

It is a vehicle focused map. End of.

[tight prism]

yeah if ur playing bf and complaining about vehciles why are you playing bf lol

[tiny wind]

Places like the northern village will be the manor of infantry. Any teams going there are gonna be swimming in pg7's.

[fresh cloud]

Im not complaining about vehicles. I'm complaining that I had a match where everyone was in a vehicle and there were only 2 people playing infantry.. and we lost because of it.

[rich torrent]

The numbers don't number though.

[tight prism]

yeah

[fresh cloud]

In BF4?

[rich torrent]

10 vehicles, 32 players.

[fresh cloud]

Not 32 players. Servers aren't fully alive these days

[tight prism]

on bf4?

[rich torrent]

Well there is your issue lmfao.

You're acting like it is a game issue, like come on.

[tight prism]

why would u complain about that while playing a dead server

there is def populated servers on bf4 btw

[rich torrent]

^

[fresh cloud]

I mean, I remember how it was back in the day too. Golmud was never good, no one really likes it

[tight prism]

atleast on pc the only truly dead ones are bf5 and bfh

[rich torrent]

Moving the goal post.

[tight prism]

golmud was pretty fun

[fresh cloud]

Not to enough players though.

[gleaming quiver]

based golmud

[tight prism]

idk seems like it was bc there were and prob still are a bunch of 24/7 golmud railway servers

[rich torrent]

It's obvious the Devs are trying to Nostalgia bait with a BF4 map and since we don't have Naval Combat, it limits options.

[tight prism]

golmud railway is made for vehicle players just like how metro is made for infantry players

[rich torrent]

Golmud is nothing but a "hey battle dads, heard you like BF4 - here's golmud, please come back."

[tight prism]

golmud is much better then mirak valley or the version of firestorm they have in the game

although i would prefer caspian border

[fresh cloud]

Firestorm has always been ass...

[rich torrent]

Golmud is worse than Mirak - it's just going to be snipers and tanks hill camping like Firestorm.

[hollow jasper]

I think you're right the steam client only tracks EU/NA players

[tight prism]

thats a problem with bf6 not golmud

[rich torrent]

Hill camping? You're not serious right?

[tight prism]

you can camp on hills on golmud in bf4 but its no where near as effective as in bf6

[rich torrent]

It still happens, it's still annoying and it's still due to bad map design.

[tight prism]

if they dont fix the terrible bf6 vehicle design and tone down sniper velocity it will be awful

[fresh cloud]

The only reason I'm gonna play Golmud is to test bullet drop in Snipers. It's such a flat, gigantic map i can finally do that lmao

[tight prism]

1100m/s bullet velocity for a sniper thats meant to be a close quarters or aggressive gun is bonkers

[rich torrent]

I'd rather them just make new maps but nostalgia sells.

[tight prism]

yeah

i believe in the sytem they use to have where theyd dedicate one dlc to bring back old maps then the rest are new maps

[hollow jasper]

All the sniper rifles will hit about 500m on the first milldot for the 10x scope

[fresh cloud]

Welcome to BF6 BF3/4/2042 #2 lmaooo

[rich torrent]

I'm just against remasters overall, every one we get is another chance lost to get a new map we'll love.

[tight prism]

this game is no where near as bad as 2042 dude dont even try that

[plush fox]

At least we getting night maps

[rich torrent]

Because that won't be ratty at all.

[fresh cloud]

But i wonder if it will matter about centering up the shot or if we'll need to aim a couple inches above their head to make the shot.. I can't test that in these small maps, for those it's just centering the shot lol

[plush fox]

Hopefully not

[rich torrent]

Night maps play terrible and the obsession is genuinely confusing.

[tight prism]

the revisionist history about 2042 must be stopped

[pure elk]

2042 three months ago is better than this game in its existing state

[plush fox]

It’s refreshing

[fresh cloud]

Nah, I was just making a reference to the NYC maps lol. They look like smaller 2042 maps

[tight prism]

maybe if youre blind, deaf, and clinically dead

[rich torrent]

I don't find thermal players sitting in corners refreshing.

[plush fox]

Lmao

[rich torrent]

Night map concepts are good but the players ruin it.

[plush fox]

Yeah tru

[hollow jasper]

You need to lead your target/ raise the cross hairs above the head to make it land

I probably said it confusingly, but if you're using the 10x scope the first milldot will be able to lead a target till about 5-600 m, middle of the milldot is about 300 ish meters

[rich torrent]

If the night map has vehicles, we know what that means too - vehicle thermals.

Literally one of the worst decisions they could make.

[hollow jasper]

Mmmm hopefully not lol

[tight prism]

before we add nightvision how about we add some jet customization

[fresh cloud]

Well that's good than. Plus I think it might even open the doors for players to make gigantic portal maps

[rich torrent]

Meanwhile the LB in S2 is coming with like - 15 different options.

[tight prism]

yes it is so stupid

[fresh cloud]

Here's a sticker lol

[rich torrent]

An Ai sticker at that.

[hollow jasper]

I think rn the only map you can consistently get headshots above 300m is firestorm, but in general we just need large maps the size of Golmund/more

[fresh cloud]

Imagine if the original devs for BF6 were still around... I would love a Bungie based BF6

[pure elk]

Incorrect

[tight prism]

then go play it

[pure elk]

No

[tight prism]

bf4

[fresh cloud]

Bad Company 2

[hollow jasper]

Lowkey sounds similar to marathon

[fresh cloud]

You just opened my eyes... damn.. I might actually buy it... Marathon looks clean asf

[hollow jasper]

I might buy it as well, I really dig the aesthetic of it lol

I don't like the destiny-isms it has from gameplay we've seen so far

[rich torrent]

Hot take, hardline.

[fresh cloud]

Arc Raiders killer?

[rich torrent]

Gun play felt better, smoother, hit reg and desync were not issues.

[gleaming quiver]

i am doubting your sanity rn

[tiny wind]

low ttk =/= good gunplay

[pure elk]

Do you always send racial slurs and graphic nsfw animal photos in DMs or do you only do that with your other account @fallen rune

[fresh cloud]

Ooohhhh he got caught

[gleaming quiver]

HOLY HECK EXPOSED

idek wat that was about anyway SERVER BROWSER NOW. OR THE GAME DIES. DICE! 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

bf4 by far

[jade anchor]

BF42

[tiny wind]

Which one? 😛

[dusky arch]

42 in 4K

[hollow jasper]

Not a hot take, but a masterful well respected and truthful take

[hollow jasper]

Be careful with the profile picture you have/ saying the name of the person in the profile picture, is directly against EAs conduct of play/ play charter or whatever it's called

[outer fog]

Hardline dual wielding I miss you

Iberian offensive, firestorm

[severe flame]

Least probably blackwell if you're playing jets and favorite probably firestorm

You can get some good attack jet action on it

Managed once to get 9 tanks/AAs in one life

[gleaming quiver]

nice try jeff (im so sorry this is a joke)

favorite: lib peak
least favorite: whatever that flat ass desert ass map is called

[west jacinth]

How Delta Force is delivering Battlefield how it is supposed to be....and Battlefield is more COD than Battlefield....

[fresh cloud]

Cheers 🍃🔥

[pure elk]

Is his name white for you?

[dreamy shoal]

True thing .. it was more realistic and needed a skills .. 👍🏻

[fiery oxide]

[rich torrent]

Battlefield isn't realistic.

[pure elk]

He was banned lol. Won’t respond

[unique sable]

Is Double xp Today or Tomorrow ?

[dreamy shoal]

Define realistic .. at least i spend countless hours for training different maps. teamwork and tactics how to perform better ..and even took many aiming training lessons .. used different aim softs etc .. but now the BF so casual and i dont need to improve myself anymore .. BF4 was tottaly different story ..

[brazen jasper]

We still waiting on news for the Elite/Open Series?

[rich torrent]

You can play any shooter realistic, doesn't make it realistic. I didn't know people jumped out of jets mid air to rpg other jets then jump back into jets in real life.

[rich torrent]

Also drop your stats.

Milsims are realistic, Battlefield is an arcade shooter.

[marble stag]

Tactics only go so far in a game like battlefield anyways

[median merlin]

It's funny how the entire discord community of the official server says the same thing and complains about the game, and they pretend that our inconveniences don't exist lol

[pure elk]

Copy pasta

[median merlin]

DICE, what's wrong with you?

[median merlin]

Arcade at least as much as cod.
It amazes me that people don't understand what they're actually playing

[dreamy shoal]

no you dont get the point here .. i mentioned that most of my team worked hours to be better in BF4 .. but now its so casual and focused on actions .. and players just rush and complain that weapons are not so good and i cant do easy kills .. nobody doesnt use different map options whifch give you a nice defence points and you dont have to rush on battlefield. Dice needs to be look back what made BF4 so greate game etc .. BF6 is good, but doesnt have that feeling like bf4 had .. thats my point here .. As it been told multiple times, BF is starting to feel like COD , but it should not .. it was and has to be only military focused game .. I have a team members who have served and are active amy members still and still moving back to BF4 ? Why?

[rich torrent]

Battlefield is an arcade shooter, end of.

They're going back because they are blinded by nostalgia.

Again, drop your stats.

Aim training for BF tells me all I need to know really.

[chrome kiln]

It doesnt have that feeling because the one is battlefoeld 6 the other is battlefield 4

[marble stag]

What's wrong with aim training?

[rich torrent]

Nothing but going on about it and practising for BF is insane.

[marble stag]

I mean, aim training is beneficial for fps games in general, not just battlefield

[dreamy shoal]

what is your point here? You just a kid who just likes to argue and doesnt like other opinions?

[pure elk]

Nothing. He just resorts to stat shaming anyone who has a different opinion. It’s his mantra

[marble stag]

I can't really hate on wanting to improve ones gameplay/aiming

[rich torrent]

Dude is talking about BF4 needing it amd BF6 not needing it cause it's more casual.

All BF games are, he's acting like he's a top player saying BF6 is too easy yet won't drop his stats.

[marble stag]

You can disagree with someone without being an ass about it

[pure elk]

His profile is hidden

[rich torrent]

Asking for the stats of someone speaking like they are a great player isn't being an a**.

[marble stag]

It can be depending on how you ask

I'm not saying either of you are wrong, it's just kinda pointless

[rich torrent]

"Drop your stats".

Pretty simple and straight forward.

[dreamy shoal]

This dude is a generation who doesnt do anything to improve a skills .. just expects that soft aim AI will do the job and then starts to argue why you have to train your muscle skills etc .. go go start to use different aim helpful features .. The bf should not need any enduser helful stuffs like aim assist, range finders ..

[rich torrent]

Brother I use MNK lmfao, nice try though.

[pure elk]

All fps games have aim assist for controller players

[rich torrent]

BF4 had aim assist aswell btw.

[cunning moon]

For the love of God stop time limited modes

[fiery oxide]

The way he's talking he's definitely not good

[rich torrent]

Oh 100%.

Dude is so blinded by nostalgia that he doesn't even realise BF4 also had AA, alongside every other FPS really.

[dreamy shoal]

How many hours you played BF4 officially in public servers and unofficially?

[marble stag]

Hey, i raised my average KD a bit

[pure elk]

I think a lot of pc players would stop complaining about aim assist if they set it to cod levels for one day to show everyone how minimal the AA in this game is.

[marble stag]

I don't think aim assist would help me to be honest

[rich torrent]

I played religiously for 2 or 3 years, what is your point?

[marble stag]

For snipers i already flick, aim assist isn't going to help me much, maybe even work against me

[fiery oxide]

Or just show them how it works in 2042

[rich torrent]

To be fair, I could accuse you of reporting anyone with a different opinion.

[pure elk]

Not true but ok.

[rich torrent]

I ask for stats when people are clearly trying to talk like they are good, which in that case what is the issue if you genuinely are?

[marble stag]

What a pointless thing to say.

[pure elk]

Let’s be real you intend to use their stats against them though 😂

[fiery oxide]

Stats don't lie

[pure elk]

Asking for stats is one thing. Weaponizing them is another

[rich torrent]

Obviously, bad players naturally have opinions based on skill issues.

A lot of players also come in here acting like their an insane player but have a .80 KD.

[pure elk]

If they are trying to flex skill I agree. But stats alone shouldn’t render someone’s opinion invalid in the general sense

[jade coral]

why we still have ridiculous '1998 revives in br or gauntlet' achievment?

[rich torrent]

I've never seen a good player complain about movement, hence why I always ask for stats when someone complains about it.

Wraps up a debate pretty quickly.

[jade coral]

in gauntlet you will have to ruin game for your squad if you try to revive instead of scoring

[dreamy shoal]

Sorry, my KD by stats is 1.8-2.0 .. .. its not high .. Im not very skillful, but my game style is different .. i like to take down helis, tanks and mostly focusing on the flag capture .. its more fun to than just play countless hours team death match. Ofc if you look my age .. then its undestandable .. why the reactions is not so good as it was like 7-10 years ago .. BF4 time.

[marble stag]

And the other half thinks their higher K/D / Stats makes their opinion somehow automatically more valid. Knife cuts both ways.

[pure elk]

Also true lol.

[rich torrent]

Good players know what they are talking about without bad playing skills effecting the opinion.

A lot of average players don't understand simple balancing.

[marble stag]

Not neccesarily. Just having a higher K/D doesn't automatically make you more knowledgeable about game mechanics by default.

[rich torrent]

Typically it does.

[pure elk]

That’s quite condescending imo 🤷‍♂️

[marble stag]

It can also just mean you're naturally better at aiming than the average player. It doesn't mean you understand the game more.

For that given example, again, obviously

[rich torrent]

Like I stated before, I've never seen a good player complain about movement.

[marble stag]

Yeah, i read it the first time, and it's equally condescending now as it was then.

To be fair, neither have i. But i'm not in here that often

[rich torrent]

Doesn't make it any less true.

[elfin wraith]

Me seeing people use KD as arguments while tanking my KD every day doing sniper and pistol challenges

[pure elk]

The movement complainers are mostly people who are in denial about sliding and jumping being the norm in shooters these days

[marble stag]

Doesn't make it any more true either.

Anecdotal evidence

[elfin wraith]

Something being the norm doesn't make it good though, right?

[rich torrent]

Typically the average player isn't looking at TTKs, recoil patterns, etc.

Lack of knowledge effects your opinion.

If we based weapon balancing off of community feedback and not the numbers, we'd have a far worse balancing situation.

[marble stag]

You don't consider learning recoil patterns aim training?

[pure elk]

I have no issue with jumping and sliding being in the game. If they start dolphin diving or wall running then I will die on a hill in protest

[marble stag]

I mean. Learning recoil patterns and how to deal with them is aim training

[rich torrent]

No lmao.

Knowing the recoil doesn't increase your aiming skill.

If you aim like crap, you're still gonna aim like crap.

[wind escarp]

Dont need to learn recoil patterns when your gun has 100 bullets. Just LMG things

[elfin wraith]

Nah just use a gun with no noticable recoil 😎

[fiery oxide]

I would count it as aim training if you go out of your way to learn them instead of organically learning them while just playing normally

[marble stag]

Studying recoil patterns is aim training if you intend to actually do something with that information.

[rich torrent]

See THIS.

[marble stag]

If you don't its.. pointless?

[marble stag]

What's wrong with it?

[rich torrent]

But again, it doesn't make you magically aim better.

[rich torrent]

Nothing, it's just a goated opinion.

[marble stag]

Nothing is magical, obviously. But dealing with recoil means your accuracy (hits) can increase

It's not all of it, but sure is part of your aim

[marble stag]

I can't say i disagree

[pure elk]

The wall jump in bo7 is annoying enough. If I want the running on walls crap I play Jedi survivor or titanfall lol

[rich torrent]

TF3 would go hard.

But GGs EA.

[pure elk]

I’m holding out a sliver of hope it’s not permanently shelved.

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl who crying about movement at 5am

[fiery oxide]

No one

[pure elk]

Same with battlefront 3. They are sitting in a goldmine. Just don’t make it loot boxes like they did with battlefront 2.

[elfin wraith]

TF3 would probably suck because all the devs who made titanfall 2 good are gone

Oops all loot boxes and RGB skins

[rich torrent]

Bro yes. I got into 2 so late unfortunately but man it was so much fun.

[elfin wraith]

As much as I'd love a good tf3 heh

[pure elk]

I still play it on and off if I’m in need of a Star Wars fix.

[rich torrent]

NA/EU things, it would be so dead in OCE.

[marble stag]

Battlefront was fun

[fiery oxide]

Is*

[pure elk]

Surprisingly it still holds about 3k daily average on steam alone.

[rich torrent]

I'd love for BBR to have a comeback but I don't see it happening.

[pure elk]

But I’ve never had an issue getting a match in under a minute

[marble stag]

You can get it for like 4 bucks now, no?

To be fair, battlefront 2 was never really a hard hitter on steam, for playercount

[pure elk]

It’s 1.59 on ea store currently for pc

[marble stag]

It had like one influx to 35k players

Probably after a free weekend/big discount in june 2025

[pure elk]

It spikes with every new Star Wars release. So the mandalorian movie and s2 of Ahsoka coming soon will bump the players up for a while

[marble stag]

Barely

https://steamcharts.com/app/1237950#All

[pure elk]

No clue what the console numbers are but I’ve never had a matchmaking issue

[marble stag]

Me neither, the times that i have played