battlefield-6

[proper rune]

"Use your brain"
Is what my ma told me.

[river fox]

AI Just for ppl with no talent. Its just the next stage of auto tune

[proper rune]

Inept people

Indeed

[river fox]

Get the crocs ready

[proper rune]

Lol

Common cold rna innoculation

Common cold ftw

[river fox]

Yfi is cool

[proper rune]

Ka is a wheel

[river fox]

Reminds me of those plastic toys u used to get in 90s with football boots on the 4 legs

[proper rune]

Symbol of peace

[eternal pebble]

oh no

[pure elk]

Dumb take

[proper rune]

I feel opressed now

[tiny perch]

Hi

[pure elk]

Someone going for speed ban. There is one every night

[proper rune]

My latter comments are meaningful

Whoe is me

[river fox]

Whoe is you

[proper rune]

Whoeful

[river fox]

Woe is how you spell it if you were interested

[proper rune]

Whom are you?

[languid basin]

I got screenshots of my loadouts in bf6: redsec

[river fox]

Amazing

[proper rune]

Lol

[pure elk]

Congrats

[languid basin]

I need clearance in #screenshots-and-clips

[proper rune]

Whom

[pure elk]

Sign up community creations category in roles

[river fox]

I mean you can barely type without it being redacted. A screenshots prob asking too much

[proper rune]

Red sec

[river fox]

Red sec revolver?

[pure elk]

Red sec redemption 3

[proper rune]

Lol

[languid basin]

My whole loadouts is LMGs

But in my favorite firearms list I only have was M4a1 and M27 iar

[river fox]

LMG was always a silly one when most of them weigh 40 Kg+

[pure elk]

I only use drs from lmg list

[languid basin]

Well use LMGs because of the transformers revenge of the fallen and dark of the moon movies

[proper rune]

Or slyvester stallone

[pure elk]

Bumblebee skin for ifv when

[river fox]

I use my car cos I played GTA

[river fox]

Hot shots was better than rambo

[proper rune]

Lool

Charlie sheen

Fml

[languid basin]

Back when BF3, BF4 & BF1 days everyone was using the LMGs because they wanted so much chaotic shootouts, epic movie scenes, montages, nostalgia moments, the actions, badass moments, explosions, yelling, screaming, panicking, crying for help, battle cry and massive casualties on both sides

[river fox]

Now an lmg hits like a wet noodle cos they just want all the call of duty babies to run around with smgs

How's an M60 take 3 shots to kill someone

1 round would take your whole torso out

[languid basin]

I barely use smgs in bf6...LMGs is all I knew and a bit of m4 carbine and m27 iar

[proper rune]

I think they should but m1 garand in bf6

[river fox]

Bipods most pointless attachment in this game, its completely counter productive to the run and gun, combat slide, ninja cartwheel idea they've adopted now

[pure elk]

Didn’t see any ninja cartwheel option in the keybinds

[languid basin]

I love LMGs because it makes look badass just like the helldivers, the guardians, the divisions, the Tarkov survivors and the warfighters (MoH) all them badass

[proper rune]

Bigger maps and animations is my only critique

[charred rose]

plz ea give me a button to make the funny drone explode on command

[river fox]

Better net code would be nice too so console players don't rail you behind 3 walls

[proper rune]

I dont know much about that

[river fox]

You must have died plenty of times behind a wall when you've already dived behind cover 2 or 3 seconds before

[proper rune]

Maybe

Iv noticed blatant cheaters before.
Far and few inbetween though

[river fox]

Well ye I had some guy monday with 1579 account lvl that magically hosed down 2-3 ppl a time every 30 seconds

Reporting seems to do next to nothing

[charred rose]

We can report people in this game?

[next garden]

Is DICE ever going to fix Sobek city? It’s the worst map with terrible spawn points. Snipers spawn kill you at C.

[river fox]

Sobek city needs removing from the game indeed. Whoever designed that map needs to be sent to Bethesda

[next garden]

Agree, not being able to counter the snipers by destroying the building is stupid.

[river fox]

Love how the promotional videos for bf6 were bragging about the building destruction tho. Theres hardly any of it that even matters

[abstract nexus]

One of the few examples I can think of is mirak valley crane

[proper rune]

Very hardline

[abstract nexus]

Changes the landscape between 2 points and also obviously removes the crane

[river fox]

Ye the cranes the only thing that even resembles some useful destruction reminiscent of BF4

[abstract nexus]

Tho its a small area that it affects its still very cool to see imo

[proper rune]

Very hardline

[abstract nexus]

I hope we get more stuff like that. Fingers crossed for contamination having that element

[pure elk]

They probably weren’t cheating

[next garden]

Im just waiting for Crimson desert to come out. I will most likely quit BF6 thanks to maps like sobek city

[river fox]

Having an infantry only maps a bit stupid too when theres so few maps

Why is it even in the conquest rotation

[abstract nexus]

I mean i wouldnt mind more maps like that but atm I hope they focus on bigger maps and asymmetrical maps

I saw a video that pointed out that bf6s maps have been made very samey and aside from sobek I didnt notice (cause sobek and to a degree eastwood are probably the worst offenders imo)

[river fox]

The campaign modes got so many decent areas to use and they ignored 90% of them

[abstract nexus]

I have not played campaign but I heard they have better uniforms in there than we do in the store

And also a tv missile or smth like that

Ill prolly get to it eventually cause I want the like 20 achievements tied to campaign

[river fox]

The drones actually drop bombs too

[abstract nexus]

I think recons drone does that in battle royale doesnt it

[river fox]

Noticed they added some new bug too in the last update

Loads of times now the recon call in drones get stuck in buildings

How's it even end up in a building if its sposed to be flying in the sky

[abstract nexus]

Probably gets spawned in the wall or ceiling

[placid wyvern]

Well it felt like passing a barrage of kidney stones after a year of drinking only red bull, but the DB-12 is finally level 40.

[abstract nexus]

Lmfao

Thats how I felt leveling the rpk but at least the rpk can sometimes kill past 10m

[placid wyvern]

The RPK reminds me of the AK-205. Precise, but weak.

[abstract nexus]

Its anything but precise

Id take ak205 over rpk any day of the week

[placid wyvern]

I just mean that when compared to other LMGs

[abstract nexus]

In that case i think that better describes the kts

[placid wyvern]

God that's so true.

Hot take, but I hate the KTS.

[fading coral]

Anyone down for gauntlet 4kd+

[past jasper]

kts is much better than rpk

though kts is super situation dependant

[placid wyvern]

Wish I could agree, the RPK has a reliable damage profile.

[past jasper]

yeah, reliably bad

[placid wyvern]

For the KTS to be statistically identical to the M/60 only with worse damage, and I ironically enjoy the M/60.

[past jasper]

you have the same damage profile as nvo with worse rpm and worse handling, howd that make any sense

[river fox]

Why does rpm matter nobody full autos an lmg

[past jasper]

have you read what you wrote

[placid wyvern]

Full-auto is your best bet close-range.

[past jasper]

though personally i just dislike lmg archetype as a whole in most shooters, since you are sacraficing weapon handling for more ammo usually

[placid wyvern]

That's why the DRS is so popular.

[past jasper]

which i cant care less because all i do is rush, and id take fast reload over big mag any day

[past jasper]

at that point just run a ar, why even run iar

m240 gets a pass due to it have super long 3 shot range

[placid wyvern]

Higher range bracket, stronger fall-off, etc.

With the pseudo-versatility of an AR.

[past jasper]

better damage profile doesnt matter when your ads takes a year and a half

[sturdy spindle]

why wouldnt u full auto an LMG, u can full auto almost all the guns in the game

[placid wyvern]

handstop

[past jasper]

and for iar it is basically an ar in lmg slot imo so i exclude it in all lmg conversation

[placid wyvern]

Benefits from Support.

[past jasper]

too bad i play open weapons

[placid wyvern]

Me too

[past jasper]

kts is fine as what it is, i just wish it doesnt have the botched semi auto

[supple shuttle]

What makes it botched

[placid wyvern]

Rather use the M/60 but that's just me.

[past jasper]

you have a artificially lower rof limit in semi than in full auto

in beta you can fire as fast as the weapon can do

for me personally i have better shot pacing and better accurcy if i click each shot myself

[placid wyvern]

Probably to mitigate recoil packs.

[supple shuttle]

Fair enough, I wonder if match trigger would change that timing at all

[past jasper]

they can do that in full auto as well so it doesnt really matter

[past jasper]

tried, doesnt work.

[fierce flicker]

When are they going to add servers? Or atleast allow us to change our region? My region has no player base. I have to play with bots all the time??? The sole reason I'm going to stop playing battlefield 6 is this. They need to add something so I don't have to be playing with bots all the time!!!

[placid wyvern]

I wouldn't know, maybe there's some kind of point. I don't really mull over the efficacy of cheats, just condemn them.

[past jasper]

all semi does is give you a bit reduced recoil i think

i dont even think it changes spread

[river fox]

What u expecting when a game loses 80% of its playerbase in 3 months

[placid wyvern]

If that's true, then I'd say that's my point.

[past jasper]

let people use autoclicker if they want it that much

[fierce flicker]

So I should just download delta force or go back to battlefield 1?? I like the game tbh. But it's such a pain whenever I queue. It's just bots

[supple shuttle]

You’re shouting into the void

[river fox]

I mean i would. The bot AI is from late 2000s aswell. They didn't put alot of effort into it

[past jasper]

your choice is probably portal

also turn crossplay on if you have that off

[boreal monolith]

Is connection just ass tonight? The worst connection i've had since the games been out

[fierce flicker]

I have it on, but I hate the fact that every other game has a single switch button to select different severs. Why can't they do it either. They really did kill battlefield 6 after the beautiful chance they got

[river fox]

Cos they dumbed it down to cater to consoles

[past jasper]

dumbed down to cater to console is crazy

all that is its just that right now they dynamically scale server capacity now

though i do think that they should have a couple of servers that are static in each region

at least 1 server per mode

[placid wyvern]

Now onto pistols, I wonder what the best way to level them would be. They're weak by design...

[past jasper]

by playing the 3 good ones

[placid wyvern]

What's the third one?

[past jasper]

1911, m44, m357

[placid wyvern]

Yeah... Going for all of them. I already got M44 to 40.

[supple shuttle]

Do hollow points help?

[past jasper]

Never run m44 without it

[placid wyvern]

Not sure. Right now I'm the P18, and hollows plus suppressor's pretty expensive.

[fierce flicker]

You're right, portal is the only hope as I can use it like a server browser. Well okay I guess

[placid wyvern]

Its damage is 25, 1.5 that is 37.5.

Without it, 1.34 is a little over 33, so it's a three-headshot kill either way.

[supple shuttle]

I barely use the pistols as it is, I only bring suppressor and a sight most times

[placid wyvern]

Well, yeah. They're meant to be fallback weapons, not primaries.

[past jasper]

I just do suppressor + maglatch

[past jasper]

Except m44, that's a primary

[placid wyvern]

When it doesn't miss.

[past jasper]

Don't miss then

[placid wyvern]

Bloom.

[pure elk]

They expect you to relocate to a populated region

[supple shuttle]

Can’t miss with a big iron on my hip

[past jasper]

Buddy if you miss when ads m44 you got no one to blame but yourself

[placid wyvern]

Very helpful.

Got it 40 anyway, so it doesn't matter.

[past jasper]

M44 hipfire isn't that reliable, ads is usually the way to go

[placid wyvern]

I almost found it more reliable from the hip.

[past jasper]

Hell nah

[supple shuttle]

Laser seems more useful than a sight for the cost

[past jasper]

For pistols yes

[supple shuttle]

I hope they add an auto glock, maybe a burst

[past jasper]

Unless you play hc

[past jasper]

No

[placid wyvern]

According to some leaks, a glock will be coming.

[past jasper]

Full auto pistols are almost never balanced

[placid wyvern]

dn if it'll have full auto.

[river fox]

The pistols aren't balanced anyway if you claim theres only 3 usable ones

[past jasper]

We already have a glock

The pistol that's coming is scorpion, but we don't know if it's in off hand or main hand

[supple shuttle]

It would have to have harsh damage falloff, but I don’t think it would be that far out of place

[past jasper]

The problem is that it would either be better than the 3(except m44) or be useless like glock

[supple shuttle]

Especially in the company of high dps smgs

[past jasper]

Damage fall off doesn't matter when people are in barrel stuffing range

[supple shuttle]

If it’s damage matches the existing glock it wouldn’t be that concerning

Maybe a small mag for balancing

[past jasper]

It would because it's gonna be a full auto glock

It's literally gonna be a pocket vector

[placid wyvern]

It's gonna sound weird, but I'm enjoying the P18 so far.

[river fox]

Smgs could do with dropping to 15-20 dmg depending on rate of fire

[balmy sinew]

You're him bro 😭🗣️

[past jasper]

Let's just say that for balance reasons it's 800 rpm instead of 1200

You still have ttk that's extremely comparable to any normal ar/smg

[placid wyvern]

Permitting tick rate.

[past jasper]

So you want the entire smg class useless

[supple shuttle]

I think the happy medium would be burst fire

[past jasper]

Most smg that isn't called scw or vector are not that strong compares to carbine or ar

Mpx/mp5 trades damage profile for a tiny bit more rpm and better recoil, p90 just have bad damage profile and a long reload, mp7 is mid, ump is bad, and sl9 is already struggling

I don't understand the hate on smg as a whole when the ones with issue is just scw and vector, and they only really have issue in small mode which most people don't touch

[placid wyvern]

Really the sense that they're encroaching ranges they shouldn't, almost by making most of the Carbines redundant.

[lone stump]

The PW7A2 feels really good personally. I don't care for the SMG class but that one in particular is snappy, accurate and has a comfortable rof.

[supple shuttle]

The smgs are beating out ARs and carbines for accuracy and ttk when it doesn’t make sense

[past jasper]

Carbines have much better damage profile, with mostly the same ttk or better (the relevant carbines at least)

[lone stump]

With a 4.5x it's scary accurate.

[placid wyvern]

Disagree. They're about the same to me, but more SMGs have a stronger lasting impression.

[past jasper]

Because most people run smg since everyone advertises it as "good" when sg553 does everything but better

[supple shuttle]

I don’t agree with the damage profiles for the smgs, they should be penalized at range where ARs should thrive

[past jasper]

Same reason lots of people run kord when it really isn't that good of a gun

[placid wyvern]

Opinions are opinions.

[past jasper]

They already are, at ranges where ar does 20 they do 17/14

*regarding common 25 base damage smgs

[supple shuttle]

I think it’s not enough, but it’s more of a recoil problem on other guns than anything else

[river fox]

Wow im surprised u got away with that

[charred rose]

Handstop on the PW7A2 is so fun I just sprint past people and win the exchange by turning

[river fox]

Also wonder why your phones auto corrected it to that. You must type that word alot lol

[past jasper]

Most guns don't have recoil either way so it doesn't really matter, as long as people stop rushing into 20m or under you are always gonna win the exchange

Assuming equal skill and hit rate

[supple shuttle]

I don’t know if I agree with that as an lmg user

[placid wyvern]

Yeah it's pretty loaded.

[past jasper]

If you are getting domed by a smg as lmg user then your range management is an issue

[lone stump]

Given Dice's record, going into S2 will probably see the dumbing down of a lot of the higher performing outliers in all categories. Like the KSG100's accuracy, and overall recoil patterns. Like they snuck in with the RPK, NVO and M250.

[placid wyvern]

Well that was condescending

[past jasper]

It's not condescending, it's just you need to control engagement distances based on what weapon you are using

[placid wyvern]

Everyone knows that.

[supple shuttle]

It’s always going to be multiple factors causing someone to die, but I think an smg at 100 meters should have a significantly more difficult time getting a kill vs an lmg, ar or other high caliber weapon

[river fox]

Well ye it shud be nearly impossible to kill someone at 100m with an smg

[supple shuttle]

It’s not a milsim sure, but in what world are you winning an engagement with an mp5 versus an m4 or m249 at range

[past jasper]

Every gun have trouble at 100m aside from dmr and sniper so that's false

And at any range that isn't below 30m smg generally really struggles

[supple shuttle]

It’s something that purely exists as a result of the current smg balancing

Damage wise or recoil wise

[placid wyvern]

SMG range feels okay, just needs a steeper falloff.

[past jasper]

Also ima be real with you, if you get killed by smg at range that would be a skill issue.

[balmy sinew]

What the best MG in-game?

[placid wyvern]

Varies, but I think most agree the M123K is the best.

[lone stump]

Agreed. Either more damage falloff penalty or bullet accuracy at ranges making it impractical.

[past jasper]

Overall if you have common engagement distances over 20m you should be beating a equal skilled smg player every time

[placid wyvern]

SMGs also seemingly have less bloom than weapons with longer barrels.

[balmy sinew]

Oh okay I'm making a support class.

[past jasper]

Barrel length doesn't matter in this game, all that matters is that if it is heavy barrel and if dice decides to give you bad accurcy

[placid wyvern]

I personally enjoyed most of the LMGs. Honorable mentions to the M250 and the M/60.

Honestly, they're all okay, though I disagree with the KTS.

[supple shuttle]

It impacts bloom under sustained fire, surely it does matter if you want to win a fight at range

[past jasper]

In which case most smg have normal accurcy and some ar/lmg just gets slapped with garbage spread for no reason

[placid wyvern]

Yes, that creates a balancing disparity in which more versatile weapons can contend in range brackets they shouldn't.

[past jasper]

Also I will use m240 over 123k any day of the week

[past jasper]

The weapons that get fucked in accurcy is:
M433, m4a1, m60 that's about it

But m60 can be compensated by tap firing since it have unusually fast accurcy reset speed

[candid oxide]

M/60 is so fun

[placid wyvern]

rite??

[supple shuttle]

The other factor is the movement penalties to accuracy, it seems like it should be tied proportionally to your movement speed. All else equal, the guns can be very accurate if you’re perfectly stationary

[candid oxide]

It's wild af but hits like a train

[past jasper]

Overall imo smg is a issue that's vastly overblown as it was only at launch smg was better than any other archetype since spread was bugged

As of right now with most guns having normal spread its a non issue as long as you are not on the guns with unusually high spread

[past jasper]

Also stop using attachments that reduce your movement accurcy

The only really viable underbarrel are the 20 cost straight, the 30 cost stubby, the slim angled and the season 1 handstop

[supple shuttle]

It becomes a necessity if you have high vertical recoil on the lmgs

[past jasper]

None of them have much recoil at all

M250 have stupid horizontal recoil but none have much vertical at all

Also vertical recoil is the easiest to control

[supple shuttle]

I don’t know what you mean that none of them have much recoil, compare a kts to the m240 and even within the class it’s very clear

[placid wyvern]

M60 especially

[supple shuttle]

Controllable is one thing, but it’s always situational with your engagement range, hence my attachment choice

[past jasper]

They are all very easy to control, kts being the easiest

[abstract nexus]

Kts controls itself tbh

[balmy sinew]

The m60 is fun with reflex sight

[placid wyvern]

And 50 rnd belt

[past jasper]

Then if you are using attachments that give you movement accurcy penalty don't complain when a smg goes around the corner and kills you

Because that's what happens

[supple shuttle]

Thats just not what I’m talking about man

[past jasper]

What I mean is please for the love of God stop using movement accurcy penalizing grips

[placid wyvern]

They work for him

[past jasper]

Does it though?

[placid wyvern]

If it improves one's subjective experience, then yes.

Projecting yours onto others isn't going to compel them.

[supple shuttle]

It’s clearly always going to be dependent on your engagement range and weapon, but if I’m trying to slug it out close range with an lmg I’ve had zero problems winning in close with the vertical grips

[past jasper]

It's just that it is the non optimal choixe

[supple shuttle]

But at that point the laser is doing the heavy lifting

[placid wyvern]

According to you.

[supple shuttle]

Optimal for me is planning for the long range engagement on multiple targets

[past jasper]

According to literally anyone who is half way decent at the game

[placid wyvern]

What, are you clarivoyant and have access to their minds?

[supple shuttle]

I’m sure you have your own play style that you build around, kinda strange to imply there is only one right way to play any given gun

[abstract nexus]

Short mag rpk

[past jasper]

I'm not saying there is only one way I'm saying that those attachments actively make you hit less shots

[placid wyvern]

According to you.

[past jasper]

Unless you are literally standing still but by then just use bipod

[placid wyvern]

Maybe it's a "skill issue" on your part.

[past jasper]

Dude I wanna see your tracker stats if you keep saying those lol

[abstract nexus]

I wish the ads speed bipod didnt touch your accuracy

[placid wyvern]

Why? I've been getting every weapon to level 40. My stats will be skewed down because of it.

[supple shuttle]

I don’t mount often if I’m mobile, there’s certainly times where a grip pod makes more sense or even bipod, but laser vertical grip has given me the best balance at range and close in

[placid wyvern]

And I don't care about winning games, there's no incentive in a sandbox-oriented game.

[past jasper]

If you are mobile then movement penalizing grips actively harms your accuracy

Which actively prevents you from hitting shots

[supple shuttle]

Ive tried both, only one has resulted in consistent kills at range for me

M123k, m250, m240, same story for each

[past jasper]

Idk then you do you

I'm not saying no to easier kills

[placid wyvern]

Nah, dude. Your experience is clearly, just, incorrect apparently.

[supple shuttle]

Some variety of vertical laser has been more consistent at enabling kills at range, even if requiring the occasional tap fire

[past jasper]

I assume you are on blue laser

[supple shuttle]

I see the benefit in mobile accuracy, but the blue laser has offset that substantially

[river fox]

Rpg is best sniper rifle.
Fight me

[placid wyvern]

Indeed

[past jasper]

Which compensates the accurcy back

[supple shuttle]

Which is why we are having the conversation but not understanding eachother

[past jasper]

It is still suboptimal just less sub optimal

[placid wyvern]

Ugh

[supple shuttle]

Optimal for what goal in your eyes?

[past jasper]

Also are you using lightened suppressor?

[supple shuttle]

My goal is accuracy at range, unsuppressed and unmounted

[past jasper]

Why unsuppressed

[supple shuttle]

Because if I’m sustaining fire, I’m already visible by tracers, might as well kill them before they have a chance to shoot back

[past jasper]

Then enhances brake + 30 cost slim should be good for basically anyt

[placid wyvern]

And you get better accuracy with other barrel attachments, aiding your goal.

But so few people use them because of how overpowered spotting is rn.

[supple shuttle]

On a kts I can probably suppress where otherwise I’d brake, but generally at range I want minimal recoil under sustained fire

[past jasper]

You don't get better accurcy with anything other than blue laser

Which is one of my complaint to the attachment system, since you can't drop some Stat here and pick up elsewhere

Heavy barrel only marginally mitigates spread

[placid wyvern]

That's, like, your opinion.

[past jasper]

That is literally factual

[placid wyvern]

According to what?

[past jasper]

The fucking attachment description and people's testing

[placid wyvern]

And that experience doesn't replicate exactly for every player.

The nuance is much deeper and more complex than controlled testing.

[supple shuttle]

When you say accuracy it’s important to specify between visual recoil and also movement accuracy

The number doesn’t show enough detail to just say accuracy without considering all of those attributes

[placid wyvern]

This

[past jasper]

When I'm talking in regards to accurcy it's always referencing spread

I don't care about visual recoil because it doesn't effect if my bullets lands or not

[river fox]

90% of the playerbase just sits afk somewhere nowhere near objectives anyway. They don't need movement accuracy buffs

[placid wyvern]

There are dozens if not hundreds of hidden attributes that even extend to the person themselves. Even sensitivity values play a factor that no one ever seems to consider.

[past jasper]

Sensitivity is the issue of the player not if the gun performs or not

[placid wyvern]

And some weapons perform better under higher sensitivities, by virtue of making quicker corrections.

[supple shuttle]

It all fits into your personal playstyle, but for me when I say accuracy I’m thinking how high the barrel climbs under sustained uncontrolled fire, and the same for how wide those bullets will travel

[past jasper]

You always wanna maximize accurcy because unless you want rng based engagement having bullets land where you aim should always be the priority

[supple shuttle]

If it works it works, idk man. Optimal or suboptimal hardly matters if you get the frag

[placid wyvern]

Indeed.

[past jasper]

Obviously, the pretext is as long as you can control the recoil enough, which in my opinion and experience, other than tr7 there isn't a weapon that have uncontrollable recoil

[river fox]

None of it rlly matters if that console jockey you run into has a cronus anyway

[past jasper]

And even on tr7 it's mostly doable til around 35m

[placid wyvern]

I had no trouble with the TR-7 at range.

[past jasper]

If you semi yeah no shot that you don't have trouble

I am referencing full auto

[placid wyvern]

Nah, full auto.

[past jasper]

I'd like to see a clip of that, send it in #screenshots-and-clips and ping me, ima go to bed

[placid wyvern]

Don't have any.

[past jasper]

Also my pretext of tr7 being uncontrollable is base on suppressor and no grip

[placid wyvern]

And "uncontrollable" is subjective.

[past jasper]

With 30 slim it's doable up to around 50

[past jasper]

While it is subjective that's the overall community sentimenr

[supple shuttle]

In conclusion, situations are situational. Recoil exists, and attachments matter based on your goals. We’ve accomplished nothing.

[placid wyvern]

Again, are you clairvoyant?

[past jasper]

Literally go read comment threads and ask people the answer is overall simillar

[placid wyvern]

Do you recognize the existence of survivorship bias in which only a subset of players are vocal whereas most of them aren't discussing anything?

[past jasper]

Thus I think it's safe to reach the sentiment that for most people tr7 have bad recoil

[placid wyvern]

Great, I disagree with "most people" then.

[past jasper]

While yes I do agree regarding bias I think that as good as we can get

[river fox]

Most people? 90% of playerbase have 1 kda or lower. Why are we taking that as evidence 🤔

[placid wyvern]

And I think it's not worth considering, given a subjective experience is the strongest evidence for the individual.

[past jasper]

Also I'd like to see how controllable it is on your end

Idk how console tr7 is but mnk it is quite horrendous

[placid wyvern]

It's bouncy, but not unmanageable.

[past jasper]

Just record a short clip and throw it to #screenshots-and-clips if possible

[placid wyvern]

Steep learning curve, really.

[past jasper]

My issue is the random jerking left and right which leads to issues

[placid wyvern]

Yeah, well, not a problem for me.

[past jasper]

The overall pattern isn't and issue

I will record a clip tomorrow and send it in clips channel

[placid wyvern]

I don't care. I believe in your experience, but that doesn't supercede anyone else's.

It's a difficult weapon, but I can manage it.

[river fox]

He said he was going to sleep 30 mins ago but his need to be right overruled his tiredness

[supple shuttle]

Battlefield moment

[placid wyvern]

I always wonder how so many people can't grasp the concept of subjective experience.

[river fox]

Ide answer you but ide get a large mute for the answer

[placid wyvern]

Or how so many people mistake popularity for correctness.

[abstract nexus]

Like kord meta

[river fox]

Thats society these days

[elfin wraith]

Man, Blackwell is way too open for snipers 💀 Still had a brilliant game though, constantly rushing backfield objectives

[plush fox]

Night maps coming in season 2?

[hardy raptor]

[gleaming quiver]

imagine not having a server browser

[pure elk]

Or air radar

[velvet kayak]

Main issue with BF6 for me

[arctic quiver]

Sqaud needed

[steady flare]

i decided to test out the mbt guided munitions for the first time on firestorm while sitting on a mountain. WHY ARE THEY IN THE GAME you can literally shoot everything from the sky with ease from 1000meters away

[rich torrent]

I think the issue here is more sitting on a hill wasting a Tank and not playing objectively.

[pure elk]

Tanks should have a built in self destruct mechanism that kicks in if a tank doesn’t move after thirty seconds

[steady flare]

i dont think its wasting if you are able to take out everything that you can see. the issue is that you are able to do that in the first place

[fiery oxide]

There's no good way to "fix" that

[steady flare]

there is. remove the guided munitions

[fiery oxide]

Right remove one of the only reliable anti air options

[rich torrent]

You aren't killing ground armour sitting on that hill unless you're just cleaning up scraps from other players efforts.

[rich torrent]

So take away the AH helis only secondary weapon?

Take away 1 of 2 effective AA options at the moment?

RPGs and TOWs are the only things keeping air craft balanced at the moment.

[pure elk]

Should recon have a continuously dropping health bar that only regenerates with movement?

[steady flare]

how is it balanced when i can literally press mouse1 and just look at an helicopter to bring it down when most people cant even take off on a heli

[rich torrent]

Most people can't aim TOWs lmao.

[steady flare]

yeah most people suck

[pure elk]

Doesn’t the tank have a tow that’s pretty much undodgeable on a painted target?

[steady flare]

tows dont lock

[fiery oxide]

All tows are dodgeable

[rich torrent]

Without the current state of RPGs and TOWs, we have the AA Tank which is more "don't come near this area or I'll annoy you" and the stringer which doesn't one hit and is also weaker due to flares coming back in 10 seconds compared to BF4s 22 second cooldown.

[pure elk]

For some reason I remember painting a target and a tank firing a one hit shot at it

[rich torrent]

That's the MR Missile on the IFV.

[pure elk]

Yes that’s it

[steady flare]

not the ones that come from the enemy spawns and the ones that dont even glow to notify your about to get blown up

[rich torrent]

We shouldn't nerf an item based on a bug though, the glow is suppose to be there for all TOWs.

[steady flare]

yeah but all im saying mbts shouldnt have guided munitions

[fiery oxide]

I can agree on that TOWs should have some sort of glow

[steady flare]

they do have glow but only sometimes

[rich torrent]

See now that's a different story, I agree with MBTs specifically losing TOWs and gaining another option from BF4.

[fiery oxide]

and when that works dodging will be light work even for the less skilled players

[dusk sandal]

Chat, question: can the BF-2M optic accept a piggyback reflex? Cuz I can see that the top of it has a suspicious cutout, compared to the LDS or SU-320

Like the cutout was specifically made to accept an additional reflex sight. I might be tweaking, tho, I don't even play BF6 myself 😭

[mortal bay]

Dude nobody cares anymore… the game is about to die lol

[steady flare]

game isnt dying anytime soon

[dusk sandal]

Still worth asking, I think. I JUST WANNA KNOW, damnit 😭

[fiery oxide]

Buy the game and find out

Or download redsec

[mortal bay]

As always, DICE broke all their promises. The game has become almost unbearably boring. All the maps they've made are barely playable except for Siege of Cairo, and even that is terribly balanced in certain areas. Weapons are a separate conversation that only evokes disappointment... What has DICE done since the game's release? NOTHING!

[dusk sandal]

Due to several factors and complications, I can't play games, neither do I have a sufficient setup to play at all

[mortal bay]

Use Nvidia GeForce Now

[dusk sandal]

Still unable to. It's complicated

[pure elk]

Blink twice if you need help

[mortal bay]

Well then I dunno how to help ya, anyways game is boring and almost everything is broken as of today.

[dusk sandal]

I wish I could say that XD. Nah nah, it's okay, it's just that I have so much else in my life to attend to that I can't divide much to gaming.

And besides, I like to live vicariously through gameplay videos, YouTube videos, and friends who actually play the games

[mortal bay]

I tried many setups and all of them felt absolutely different and very random

[rich torrent]

Enjoyment is subjective.

[pure elk]

🍻🤟

[dusk sandal]

But my question still stands: can the BF-2M accept a piggyback reflex? For added context, I'm tryna ideate some tacticool M4A1 builds that my friend can make in the gunsmith

[steady flare]

if you look at 2042 that game was shit through and through and it still had players till the release of bf6

[mortal bay]

You’re absolutely right!

[pure elk]

Game was decent by the end. Three years too late

[mortal bay]

Yes, because their fans were hoping something would change. And frankly, other games are also complete crap with billions of cheaters.

[dusk sandal]

Any answer — except for something along the lines of Darthspeed's original answer, no offense — are welcome 🙏

Now, I shall go back to enjoying Recce rifle builds in an FDE finish while I wait 👍

[mortal bay]

Exactly! I’ve been playing this trash for all this time, and I agree with you

[pure elk]

No game has billions of players 🤣. Yes I know you aren’t being literal

[mortal bay]

No worries man, I was trying to say that as of today it’s really hard to explain the mechanics since most of them are broken

[lucid trellis]

Please can we cook grenades

[fiery oxide]

Regular grenade has an impact fuse so no

[tribal zodiac]

🤨

That is NOT how that works

[lucid trellis]

[fiery oxide]

It does, it even says so in the description

[trail nova]

good day to you my beautiful friends

i hope you are having a stellar weekend full of joy

[nocturne heart]

anybody else got like connection issues? like for the past couple days every time i start matchmaking it just loads before kicking me out and giving me a bunch of errors

[long musk]

a lot of us have been crashing or getting an infinite black screen when loading a new screen. we've tried repairing the files but it still happens. and not to sound like a negative Nancy but I've been experiencing sever bouncing 5/10 times when parachuting in.

[modest jackal]

Yeah, I'm so used to that in CoD.

[nocturne heart]

tbh it just took me like 6 attempts to get into a game

screen went black like it's going to load only to boot me back to main screen without saying anything

[long musk]

hopefully its just them getting this awesome, goody packed new season ready

[nocturne heart]

lets pray

[tight prism]

Anything new in the game?

Haven’t played for 3 months

[steady flare]

no

[sudden chasm]

my qbz is soon level 50, big up

[tight prism]

Okay never mind

This was way worse than I thought

Battlefield 6 (BF6) has seen a significant decline in its player base since launch, with recent months showing sharp drops, particularly on Steam, falling from peaks of over 500,000 to under 100,000 concurrent players by early 2026, with figures hovering around 40,000-50,000 average daily players by January/February 2026.

This trend reflects a massive loss of players, with reports of 80-90% attrition, leading to concerns about the game's long-term viability and developer support.

[tribal umbra]

its mostly just cuz everything cool u can do has been done and the majority of the content people don't like small maps and niche modes balance and wep xp too its all a slog the hype has left and the leaks of what's coming don't impress anyone

[tight prism]

It was somewhat expected but not that bad

But EA won’t learn anything as usual anyways

[sudden chasm]

god i hate sobek city so much 😭😭😭😭

[tribal umbra]

i hop on occasionally snipe a bit then hop off i just dont feel any sense to play i leveled a bunch of guns got all the classes maxed and everyone i knew that played quit before dec was over

[eager raptor]

oh man, i love it.

[sudden chasm]

it's just so irritating to play

[eager raptor]

i guess we can't all agree on the same taste. i genuinely feel sorry for you though.

[sudden chasm]

???

[eager raptor]

well everyone deserves to enjoy the game right?

it just hurts to see players disappear because it isn't what they hoped for.

[sudden chasm]

ah, i mistook your tone

my bad

[tired flower]

Same

[eager raptor]

no problem.

[velvet kayak]

I’m lucky - my whole clan love the game (and play daily) so I always have at least one full squad.

[tribal umbra]

we just ran out of stuff to do we wanted large scale maps the ones that do exist only a few are decent and all the fun goofy things weve already done and as far as the game itself the core problems from launcha re primarily still here

[ionic vault]

Wish blowout panels on MBT's were functional

[valid roost]

online services down for anyone else?

[velvet kayak]

Things to do? We play the game to win, get best squad and improve our game - that’s what we always played BF for. We prefer smaller maps (Empire is our most played).

[hollow rivet]

Got mainly issues with redsec loading screen crashing 75% into loading

Other modes seem fine

[tight prism]

Good that you’re having fun

But 90% of the player base is already gone

[velvet kayak]

So people have deduced (from Steam stats).

[nocturne ravine]

Merry Christmas
And a happy birthday too bro
Oh and also happy Halloween

[hollow rivet]

Any fix on game crashing in loading screen

Doesnt show any errors

[sudden chasm]

the svk dmr is lowkey kinda good...

[velvet kayak]

When we play we don’t get all the negativity on social media etc., sure it’s not perfect (could really do with persistent servers & browser plus Platoons but overall great fun).

[tired flower]

There's always more Breaks to Through

[tribal umbra]

like funs ways to kill people tanks jets ect the base game nobody gives a shit about obj wise unless u specifically get a group for it u find people roaming all over at any given time and as others have said clearly the majority of the players have left so its not sunshine and rainbows math doesnt lie

[tribal umbra]

give me new stuffs to do it with

[velvet kayak]

That’s why I always play with friends

[tired flower]

Liberation Peak is always a good time

[compact jolt]

season 2 when?

[tired flower]

That too

[sudden chasm]

ngl i'm honestly beginning to like blackwell fields more and more on breakthrough

empire state is always nice too

[tribal umbra]

missing the point the majority of players left so if the only way to play is with groups and say they aren't on or move to other games its for a reason and should be fixed in a timely manner not 6 months later whn nobody gives a damn

[velvet kayak]

I don’t understand why people are leaving

[tribal umbra]

then ur just ignorant or delusional

[amber belfry]

attention spans are ruined. the game is a bit stale and no new stuff is happening. also the general launch issues still not being fixed

[tribal umbra]

i will say the problems are fixable but as i said before if not done in a timely matter it makes no difference the players wont return theyll have perma moved on

[amber belfry]

thats also just wrong. people come back to games all the time

[tribal umbra]

not true they come back for content drops then leave within 2 weeks

[amber belfry]

a part of the community does yes. but def not all

[tribal umbra]

not even 10% stay of returning players for content drops stay unless the content maintains a steady release

many examples out there to show a pattern

i need coffee

[fiery oxide]

We pulling random numbers out of thin air again?

[hardy pasture]

Very close to giving up due to broken netcode. Never known anything this bad in any online fps. This last week maybe 1 in 4 games run well. The rest it’s a walking simulator. In a red sec game not only no kills but no assists! It wasn’t registering most of my bullets (we won so this was over a full game).
A lot of people have similar issues. Gutted tbh.

[tribal umbra]

go look at any game that lost the majority of its playerbase quickly then look at returning players on content drop and by the end of that same month they leave

[still musk]

Sounded good

[slate loom]

is there any way to not get any redsec challenges? playing with randoms trying to get anything done is so taxing

[still musk]

37% of statistics are made up on the spot

[hardy pasture]

Not everyone. You always lose a large proportion of the player base as they have moved on to something else.

[tribal umbra]

so your gonna sit here and act like seasonal content retains a vast majority of returning players at the end of the same month it drops

[still musk]

What did you just say to me?

[tribal umbra]

dumb dumb be blocked

[still musk]

I didn’t even say anything to you. What is blud on about??

Must be something other than coffee in that cup

[languid basin]

New LMGs ideas... M249 saw, Mk48 Mod, Hk-421, Mk46 LMGs

[tribal umbra]

the bleed effect essentially

[cyan chasm]

Are there any surveys or questionnaires coming up soon? This matchmaking system is one of the worst I've ever experienced. It's always a 700-900 win/loss.

[tribal umbra]

thats nothing play marvel rivals lol

[hardy pasture]

Seen it with my own friends list. BF6 players have plummeted. One or two look back in, netcode still broke, still no good maps, leave.

[cyan chasm]

why getting instant disrespectful?

[tribal umbra]

basically

[tribal umbra]

have u played rivals? lmfao the mm is abhorrent

[cyan chasm]

yes and I didn't like it

[tribal umbra]

missed the point entirely

[cyan chasm]

ok again: why are you getting instant disrespectful to me?

[tribal umbra]

another dumb dumb blocked lol mentioned another game somehow insulted

[hardy pasture]

They said marvels was worse. How is that disrespecting you?

[cyan chasm]

I simply asked a question, and you immediately responded disrespectfully. Could a moderator please intervene?

[tribal umbra]

cant make this up

[hardy pasture]

Does your mum know you are online?

[slate loom]

just because someone does not agree with you does not mean they are disrespecting you, Please get over your ego.

[tribal umbra]

i wasnt even disagreeing i said marvel mm is worse

[cyan chasm]

how ist that "another dumb dumb blocked lol" not disrespectful?

[slate loom]

yeah its an opinion which you can have without a problem

[hardy pasture]

Now moving the goalposts. Is this Reddit?

[slate loom]

please dont tell me you get offended that easy

[sudden chasm]

i got called stupid online 🥺

[elfin wraith]

15 headshot kills with DMRs, I'll unlock the SVD in 2035

[tribal umbra]

in a game about adults pew pewing each other in simulated war lmfao

[hardy pasture]

Just play breakthrough casuals for 5 minutes.

[pseudo lichen]

I'm live on Twitch, come hang out! https://www.twitch.tv/perryator930?sr=a

[elfin wraith]

Oh yeah bots exist lmao

[tribal umbra]

how dare u speak of teddy like that how rude lmfao - now thats a jab context matters

[elfin wraith]

💀 💀 💀

[tribal umbra]

😂

[hardy pasture]

Yeah probably not a popular opinion but if you find the challenge irritating, shoot bots and be done with it.

[tribal umbra]

shit who tf cares ur just unlocking things so u can play how u want

[cyan chasm]

It's a shame the moderators let something like that slide... because that's really not social behavior.

[hardy pasture]

Exactly. I prefer others do it then they are playing the game and not playing for unlocks.

[hardy pasture]

Good grief.

[tribal umbra]

i mean if they woulkd make portal bot maps work ppl wouldnt have to rruin games unlocking things that take way to long

[tribal umbra]

mans def watching the half time show with a smile

[cyan chasm]

I'll be the one who's more mature for once and just leave. You're a typical Battlefield player of that era.

[hardy pasture]

Mature? Really. No self awareness

[tribal umbra]

are we using this in the sense of 80+ years old

[hardy pasture]

Never understood their decision on portal. I don’t care if someone is rank 1000 with 500kd ratio. No one should! Shoot bots all they want.

[rich torrent]

It's the Battle Pass, they want people buying tiers and not grinding them.

[hardy pasture]

Good point. Never thought of that.

[tribal umbra]

way i look at it let it count towards wep xp and challenges no restriction still gotta put time in just remove kill stats since they refuse to update the base game and nobody like it as is with howe slow wep xp is

[rich torrent]

I honestly don't see the need for portal or bots personally, I'd take the older system with Server Browsers and Rented Servers over the 2042/6 system.

[slate loom]

only thing i want to change is making challenges not force you top play redsec lol

[rich torrent]

You aren't forced if you use all your rerolls every week, you get 4 redsec challenges and 4 rerolls a week.

[slate loom]

sometimes they still reroll to a redsec or battle royale challenge

[tribal umbra]

well considering its the most talked about reason people quit along with a few other bullet points they NEED to address it but seem to refuse and they're paying for it the wep xp that is i mean

[rich torrent]

I've used all 4 rerolls in all 15 weeks and never had that, same with the 3 people I play with.

[slate loom]

guess i just got bad luck than

[fiery oxide]

Only reason that would happen is if you're already tracking it when rerolling

[slate loom]

either way it would be nice to just opt out of those challenges

[fiery oxide]

Agreed

Just make it so it's not possible to get them if you don't have Redsec installed

[slate loom]

they can give me all the aids get headshoit kills past 75m all they want aslong as i dont have to play redsec

[amber belfry]

i love using all my rerolls on br challanges so now im stuck with squad deathmatch ones i cant reroll

[sudden chasm]

what's wrong with redsec

[fiery oxide]

I don't like BR

[amber belfry]

battle royales are kinda poopy. and i dont even have it installed. why am i getting challanges in a game i paid for for its free to play addon i dont even have

[slate loom]

i just dont like it personally i feel like you are being punished by playing with randoms and it degrades the experience in my opinion

[fiery oxide]

Redsec is fine but i don't wanna play something i don't enjoy

[slate loom]

i would rather be forced to play the squad deathmatch than BR or rerdsec lol

[velvet kayak]

Maybe because we are all in Xbox is why we are not experiencing that issue?

[empty topaz]

yeah lol... One life modes are a turn off for me. The only reason i play conquest and other modes is so i can be ballsy and respawn lol, i hate watching my back every second.

[rich torrent]

I do think a part of the issue with the weapon XP is peoples lack of knowledge about requirements.

Some people still think it takes 2,500 odd kills which isn't the case anymore. Now it takes 1,793 kills to hit level 50 and that's without assists, gadget destroys, etc.

Attachments are all unlocked by 39 so roughly 1,000 to 1,200 kills but even personally I have a few level 50s with only 800 to 900 kills - which is only 300 to 400 more than BF4.

[humble trench]

back in teh day bf4 already made it a chore...

[rich torrent]

I wouldn't call 500 kills a chore.

[tribal umbra]

i mean thats still wayyy too long for avg casuals with jobs and its the overwheming opinion so adhere to ur playuerbase or lose them the result is the same

[sudden chasm]

isn't that still like 10+ hours for level 50?

[rich torrent]

I did the SOR in 5 hours.

[sudden chasm]

2xp?

[rich torrent]

Nope, no tokens or event.

[fiery oxide]

I think my average kills to get lvl 50 is around 1.2k so lvl 40 is probably around 900 kills

[humble trench]

still annoying to be forced to play for so long to figure out if u like a weapon, on top of the most useful attachments are clearly being put at lv25-40, so playing with a subpar kit that can be mildly frustrating is not a good experience for me. they did this in bf4 hence why 300-400 kills felt like a chore back then, when they stuck everyones favourite scope behind that last kill on every single weapon

[gray trellis]

Is the aim guided launcher good

[fiery oxide]

No

[tribal umbra]

an individual with time and greater than avg skill can do many things but that's not the experience for the majority of the players and again if u make it too tedious which is only determined after launch and then its not adjusted properly to satisfy them then u lose them end of the day games are a business customers are always right

[humble trench]

its a basic shooter, its not about the grind for that one final item like ur playing world of warcraft, thats absurd lol

[amber belfry]

its a chore and should def be decreased

[slate loom]

dont you remember grinding for mastery badges?

[amber belfry]

but dw guys we get a double battlepass xp token

[slate loom]

sorry service stars

[gray trellis]

Dangit

[amber belfry]

attachments werent locked behind those service stars tho.

[sudden chasm]

finally level 50 on the qbz, git up

[rich torrent]

I'm not saying the kill count is perfect but it's not as bad as what people go on about because some people still are not aware of the changes and think it's still 2,500 odd kills.

[slate loom]

yeah thats true i thing some basic attachments should be available upon gun unlock but extra attachments could be level locked just for extra depth of experience

[elfin wraith]

Unlocking the LPVO and having to uncheck every single gun in the game that can use it to not have an orange circle

[amber belfry]

the qbz was a fun gun ngl

[sudden chasm]

agree, out of the NVO, Kord and QBZ, i enjoyed the QBZ the most

[amber belfry]

i think 2042 it was like 360 kills for some scopes or final attachments on a gun?

[slate loom]

you actually played 2042?

[amber belfry]

sunk cost fallacy. i put around a 150 hours into it at launch. and i "played" the road to bf6 pass

[sudden chasm]

2042 was decently fun though imo

the thing that i didn't like about 2042 was that even PS5 was locked to 60 fps

[amber belfry]

it was miserable. nothing in that game was really fun or "battlefield". iwo jima breakthrough was allright tho ig

[amber belfry]

can bf6 push more on a base ps5?

[slate loom]

i got it on sale 1 week after launch for $20 and it was so far off base battlefield i could not snomach grinding through it

[sudden chasm]

i get like 100-110 fps at least

[flat scroll]

Some attachments are level 40 and it typically takes 600-800 kills to get level 40 now, it was more like 1000-1200 in the beginning. It is still like 6-10 hours per weapon for most players and you get less kills with the weapons until you got a good amount of attachments unlocked.

Problem is they built the game around the grinding, forgot that a lot of people just want to play and try out new weapons. Grinding weapon attachments, grinding challanges to unlock weapons etc. just takes away from having fun in the game. Having to spend 3-5 hours to get a gun to a level where I got a decent silencer and some good attachments is not that fun IMO.

The two main issues for me ATM is the wonky anti-lag/netcode and the horrible team balancing. Not fun when it happens quite often that your first 2-3 low recoil bullets are fired like you have max spread, even though you have been standing still for 1s and aiming down sights. Feels like there is either a lot of packet loss or massive bugs in the anit-lag or algorithms for spread in this game.

[amber belfry]

some redditor says this PS5 Fidelity Mode: 1440p, 60FPS

PS5 Performance Mode: 1280p, 80FPS

PS5 Pro Fidelity Mode: 2160p, 60FPS

PS5 Pro Performance Mode: 1620p, 80FPS

[harsh jay]

I understand if there's special weapon camo for 1000 or more kills but attachments shouldn't take more than 500 imo. Imo 300-400 is more than enough. Hate to say it but Warzone definitely had better weapon progression

[sudden chasm]

it certainly doesn't feel like 80 fps

[river fox]

Its good that games are starting to stop catering to the lowest denominator of human intelligence

[sudden chasm]

it feels way more like 100-110, 120 even

[amber belfry]

a smooth 80 with good frametimes can feel like alot more

[elfin wraith]

Oh yeah?? Why can't every player have a 5+ KDA???

Wait

[sudden chasm]

is there a way to get the fps counter on console?

[river fox]

Cos most of them are literal potatoes that sit afk in the same spot all game

[tall zinc]

reminder that the ps5 with hdmi 2.1 supports VRR

[amber belfry]

that would also help with perceived smoothness

[rich torrent]

See I don't really think 600 to 800 kills for all attachments is that crazy, most of the time the good attachments are early 30s.

It's a lose lose situation really, it's either "too grindy" or they make it too easy and then more people than currently will complain about "nothing to do".

[sudden chasm]

my vrr is off though

[harsh jay]

Also objective kills should count more towards weapon progression. I feel like modes like TDM are better for weapon progression than conquest. I'd def do 3x per kill inside objective

[amber belfry]

regardless of what you think your opinion is in the minority

[humble trench]

thats a modern day problem developers themselves created. they added pointless grinds for people who dont truly enjoy the gameplay, now kids think its normal.

[river fox]

U have to remember u have these ppl in games that perform worse than bots cos they get 5 kills a game and sit in a spot nowhere near objective. Then complain they cant level guns

[rich torrent]

Second part of my statement isn't even an opinion though, you know how people are and making the kills even less will be a lot of "nothing to do" complaints.

[amber belfry]

i got dark matter in bo6 in the same amount of playtime it took me to max out the carbines and snipers and 2 ars

[humble trench]

we dont need players who are bored of playing teh game. if anything thats on the devs to make teh core gameplay loop interesting for them, or they can quit. the game isnt for everyone.

[empty topaz]

i average 22 kills per game but my death count averages to 25 deaths lmao

[rich torrent]

COD is also a yearly title.

[humble trench]

ill one up that statement by saying, the grind is only added to give people a purpose, because once theyre done with it they realize how bad of a state the game is in with its over 9000 technical issues that are frankly making bf6 a chore.

[river fox]

Doing the same map 2-3 times in 1 play session cos theres only like 6 maps is the real issue

[rich torrent]

The real issue here is lack of map rotation which can't be done without server browser.

[flat scroll]

Problem comes when you want to try out weapons. I have maybe 10 guns at level 40+ and I rarely want to try out other weapons as I have to grind for 2-3 hours to get just some basic attachments. Some guns need like level 25 to get some attachments that can transform the gun.

It would have been much better if you got a few decent grips, a laser and the most basic silencer within the first 10 levels. The silencers are often level 20+ and most of the other muzzles are "3d spot yourself" in a game with poor visiblity, so basically only flash hider and silencers are viable.

[empty topaz]

you could always go to menu right after a match and choose the map that you want to play on lol

[slate loom]

yes map variety is def lacking a good mix of open and urban maps should be added to suit everyones play style

[jolly grail]

How not to do a live service game.

Release 1 map in 3 months, add snow to a old map for 2 weeks and pretend it's new content.

[unreal vortex]

Hi guys

[rich torrent]

Should atleast get your numbers right if you're going to complain.

[river fox]

Last update sucked too. What did we get, some snow on a map we already had. Now its permanently snowy cos they cba to turn the thing off

[amber belfry]

both versions are in the game. you can get it with and without

[harsh jay]

+1 on that. On many weapons you have to unlock all vertical grips before getting stubby one or unlock all red dot sights before getting thermal or something

[empty topaz]

Did you try the Metro Portal map? it's pretty damn good. and you get Full XP

[amber belfry]

the current grind to unlock attachments isnt good and to say it is, is pure cope

[slate loom]

lol that map is made in microsoft paint

[river fox]

I dont touch portal crapola since I tried that silly map with a bugged map I couldn't even spawn in on

[empty topaz]

A lot of people like it, i find it to be fun. It could have been made in Scratch and i would still enjoy it.

[jolly grail]

Blackwell Fields (Oct 28), Eastwood (Nov 18)

So yes last map will be 3 months by season 2

[river fox]

Most of the servers on there some weird. "You can sit afk for 5 mins and get 12k xp!"

[humble trench]

u know theres an easy fix for that, stop making the game a pointless grind lmao

[rich torrent]

The flash hider and silencer reliance issues definitely need to be worked on but that's a separate issue to gun levels.

2 to 3 hours to get a gun up and running even for the average person is only a day or two of being able to play.

Again, not saying it's perfect but people definitely go overboard with the complaining.

[river fox]

Both of them suck too. Just made in 5 mins with 0 verticality

[humble trench]

DICE created their own problems and this diamond in the rough is gonna stay very rough for a very long time by their own doing, and EA's greed ofc :P

[rich torrent]

You said 1 map.

[river fox]

All they had to do was make the battle royal map a MP map and it would actually be fun to play on. Guess it would be too much common sense

[slate loom]

thats what eastwood is lol

[rich torrent]

All they had to do was scrap the BR and Portal, focus on what made Battlefield, Battlefield and job is done.

They are trying to be a jack of all trades for an FPS.

[river fox]

Lack of naval combat is lame too. No doubt they will try sell it in 5 years as some dlc

[rich torrent]

All we're missing is an extraction mode lmao.

[amber belfry]

hazard zone 2 will go hard guys i promise. it wont flop again just like firestorm

[rich torrent]

Concept is cool, players ruin it so I'm personally not fussed about it.

[slate loom]

oh yeah they set themselves up by having to make too much content for each gamemode

[harsh jay]

BF7, just naval, no land

[river fox]

Naval always been in BF

The good ones anyway

[empty topaz]

I can see why EA mods don’t take reports from this channel seriously. Most of what shows up here is just venting. If the game genuinely isn’t for you, there are plenty of others to play. It’s strange to spend every day on something you say you can’t stand.

[rich torrent]

Yea I know but I just hate the effects it has on the game due to playstyles by said users.

[humble trench]

im allowed to whine about a bad product ive paid for, come off ur high horse. go touch grass instead of whining about the whining :D

[rich torrent]

Trust me, they do - a little too seriously at times.

[river fox]

Why dont you server boost instead of complaining my guy /s

[harsh jay]

Imo BF1 Turning Tides dlc had the best naval combat. Tho I can only speak for titles since BF3

[flat elk]

Its sad when you buy bf6 and your pc cant even run it well

[amber belfry]

im just sad they havent given us the stuff in the campain, like the ucav. the armored car we got with blackwell fields was in the campain to

[amber belfry]

try looking at the recommended spec page before you buy it?

[rich torrent]

You can enjoy a game but it's also healthy to call out its BS - fan boying over it will not make the product better.

[river fox]

They need to add armoured car to the other maps instead of 10 pointless jeeps and quadbikes that get 1 shot by pistols

[flat elk]

I had the recommended Einstein

[empty topaz]

You're absolutely allowed to complain. I'm just pointing out that this channel turns every minor issue into a meltdown lmao

[flat elk]

But still it runs like shit

[amber belfry]

those are more for moving between points. bf4 had it and i am glad this game does to

[empty topaz]

for select people only, it appears. the game has been just fine for me

[slate loom]

runs fine for me i just locked my fps at 144 and i rarely get drops

[flat elk]

I know its really good my pc is just ass

[humble trench]

thats because every aspect of this game has major shortcomings, it adds up, thats how u end up with meltdowns. its expected to be honest. this game doesnt hold a candle to the old ones. funny thing is i fully expected EA to fork this up and i still gambled and paid for the game. so here w eare :P

[flat elk]

I mean I play battlefield from bad company

[harsh jay]

I kinda wish they stuck to Humvee. Not sure why they stuck to truck since BF4

[river fox]

Thats not that long ago

[slate loom]

i would not mind all bad company 2 maps just updated graphics lol

[humble trench]

bc2 rush was peak for sure.

[river fox]

Real battlefield players played 1942 what a good game that was

[flat scroll]

Well for me it became grinding fatigue as I wanted to try lots of guns. To me it feels like their focus is to provide people with something to grind and selling skins, rather than focus on the major issues. That coupled with all the hit-reg issues has me waiting for S2 patch to see if this game actually has a future.

I've played 12 maps this year cause the winter offensive patches have been a disaster IMO. There is a reason why the games player numbers are dropping like a stone.

[amber belfry]

they could legit just port over the remastered bad company maps from 2042 and no one would complain

[slate loom]

plus the vietnam maps mm

[rich torrent]

Remasters. 🤢

[flat elk]

Every battlefield game is made for a certain mode. They messed up when they wanted every map to be good for every mode.

[slate loom]

you are entitled to your opinion

[empty topaz]

Dude, i've helped so many people that were having those collective "issues" and most of the time people freak out because they don't understand technology.... Most of the complaints that comes out of this game are for things that can be fixed by you, unless its console.

[harsh jay]

Remakes with certain changes would do better. Like BF4 did with older maps

[humble trench]

yeah unfortunately rush is an afterthought in bf6. escalation is ok tho. played a lot of breakthrough early on but it became a bit of a chore too unfortunately, cause its simply not good old rush

[rich torrent]

The player numbers were bound to crash regardless, they weren't keeping that 600k from launch.

100k-ish weekends is more than healthy still.

[humble trench]

thats ballsy to say. this game has SO MANY PROBLEMS that apparently need fixing by the community. wow. just wow.

[river fox]

Escalation ends too quickly. Could do with taking alot longer to score

[slate loom]

map design from the old games was so good bc2 and bf4 maps were so well done

[flat elk]

Like. Bf4 and Bf3 were made for conqust and rush. Mostly conquest. Bf1 was for operations. But idk what the hell is this battlefield for.

[empty topaz]

Many things yes,l not everything but so many things that people are complaining about are non-issues. Keep crying though, i'm sure you'll be heard

[winter atlas]

Most maps would not work when "ported" over. Between any BF game. The distances, engagements would be wrong etc. I'm all for more maps, but new maps please 🙂

[humble trench]

the majority of issues are problems with the game, not the user. just because you helped a lot of people doesnt mean u can flip it around.

[flat scroll]

Last time the game hit 100k on steam was January 10th. It is more like 70k weekends now.

[amber belfry]

they remade some of the bc2 maps in 2042 portal. these would work just fine in 6. arica harbor and caspian border. forgot the other ones name

[empty topaz]

many things ARE indeed user based problems though, i'd say 85% of complaints

[jolly grail]

yes 1 map in 3 months is correct, 1st map would be 4 month ago, 2nd map which is the 1 map is 3 months ago.

[humble trench]

lmao, im gonna go.

[flat elk]

There are so many good things they can do that work. Like they have done some super good stuff in the past. Copying some old maps is not a problem really. When generations have passed people like to experiance those old experiances with new graphics and etc...

[amber belfry]

agreed. its probably gonna linger around 50k on steam around s2/3

[river fox]

I mean user behaviour is majority of the issue with matches. So many useless ppl that sit afk in spots nowhere near objective. Many games you are 1 of 3 ppl actively trying to cap. Nobody plays support properly using smoke etc, nobody repairs the tanks. The playerbase is amazingly inept at group play

[rich torrent]

98k on 25th of Jan, may aswell be 100k.

[rich torrent]

You also seem to forget the season got delayed for a month, which isn't normal.

[flat scroll]

Still short of 100k and that was due to the patch, as a lot wanted to see if things had improved.

[jolly grail]

no one cares about br in bf, the free mode did zero to game

[rich torrent]

Short by 2k, it's not like it's 20k lmao.

[flat elk]

I mean. The bf com played old games on 8k 9k so. Thats good.

[winter atlas]

I don't think they worked that well. Also hardly played compared to other maps.

[river fox]

Just a way to artificially inflate player counts

[flat elk]

They were just better in that game cause other maps were so awful.

[empty topaz]

The biggest technical problem I see is ping. The game runs smoothly on my end, but plenty of players in different regions deal with major performance drops because of high latency. Fixing the ping would automatically resolve a huge portion of the issues people keep reporting. Hit registration, mouse latency, delayed inputs, desync, rubber‑banding, and even some of the ‘broken mechanics’ people complain about and the wild part is that even if your latency is good, it only takes one player with bad ping to drag the entire match down because the server has to compensate for them.

[amber belfry]

the svdm is a fun gun

was that added with s1 or launch?

[winter atlas]

Wasn't it just the last DMR to unlock? Or am I remembering that wrong

[modest jackal]

It's a Launch Weapon unlocked via Deadeye 1.

[dusky arch]

if its just one cant they just kick them?

[empty topaz]

Yeah but i encountered a problem yesterday where i have great ping but i was still kicked because someone else had trash ping.. a couple other buddies got kicked at the same time. Before i was kicked, my shots weren't lining up right, hit reg was damn awful and enemies weren't appearing where it was showing on the mimimap

[dusky arch]

thats goofy

[jolly grove]

The Operation Metro Portal map is genuinely more fun/better than most BF6 maps. They should make an official remake of that one.

[modest dome]

bad wifi i guess

[jolly grove]

Also, add 60hz to it.

[jolly grove]

Oh yeah, they should definitely just port them over to BF6. They were underutilized in BF2042

[empty topaz]

i have great wifi though lol, my ping is constantly 15-20ms

[modest dome]

whats ur wifi system

like wifi 6e or 7

[empty topaz]

yeah but i swear some people are using wallhacks.... there's constant smoke grenades but people see through them like its not even a problem lmao

[modest dome]

to tell you the truth, im slighty ahead of you

[jolly grove]

There are thermal sights you know. I use it on this map at times

[modest dome]

i send a pic in dms @empty topaz

[jolly grove]

Also, people spray and pray in the direction of smoke/corners lol

[empty topaz]

that doesn't really mean anything lol 15-20ms is still in the perfect for ping stats lol. 10ms doesn't make any sort of a difference.

[modest dome]

i send a pic in dms

[modest dome]

but ye, anything below 20 is far good lol

[empty topaz]

it's okay lol, i don't need to see your ping, i believe you.

[modest dome]

its not the ping i send to you, its my mbps

[empty topaz]

I have Wifi 5, but it's amazing.

[modest dome]

mine is only 6e, i want to upgrade to wifi 7

[tall zinc]

no reason to upgrade to 7 currently

[modest dome]

well i do have a reason, i want to buy a plan of 3 gbps and 6e wont cut it

[tall zinc]

you wont be able to line aggregate using MLO to achieve that bandwidth rate except on very expensive enterprise routers as none implement the specification currently correctly

[modest dome]

u might be right, its just i want to be part of wifi 7 geeks you know

[modest dome]

you know that ego feeling that you have the wifi 7

[tall zinc]

if you want to get WiFi 7 at least wait till the so called routers actually are it, i.e it'll be a while

[viscid narwhal]

LFG Need a member to do rise from your grave trophy.

[tall zinc]

#lfg-crossplay

[sturdy spindle]

what about a regular member

[viscid narwhal]

what about it.

[rich torrent]

Thermals don't see through smoke in BF6.

[modest dome]

they learn from bf4 mistakes i guess

[fiery oxide]

Didn't in 2042 either

Dev even asked in here about it before they got introduced in 2042

[amber belfry]

dont think any consumer would need something above wifi 6/6e tbh. i get 800mbps up/down on my wifi 6 mesh network

[languid basin]

For me I would use LTE and none-Wi-Fi but still gain access to the internet

[empty topaz]

i just fixed my wifi lol, it dropped from 15-25ms to 10-14ms... turning off 2.4GHz and keeping 5GHz on really helps apparently lol

[amber belfry]

or just run a cable

[empty topaz]

my pc is connected already to ethernet

[warm kettle]

I’d be surprised if any everyday consumer is saturating a broadband gigabit connection period.

[amber belfry]

this is what i tell customers daily saying they want gigabit because they game. it wont matter lol

[modest dome]

oh now were equal

[amber belfry]

i think i usually average 10-12 ping in bf6. ive had some uk friends get 6 to 8 tho

[empty topaz]

Now i can play my 4 main maps and be happy again lol. Manhattan Bridge, Mirak Valley, New Sobek City and Seige of Cairo are all my favorite maps

[modest dome]

except i dont use cable, only wireless connection

imagine i plug in ethernet

[empty topaz]

i have a wifi chip but my buddy told me Ethernet is more reliable so i never used wireless before lol

[amber belfry]

plugged into the server

[amber belfry]

in general it is. especially on 90% of peoples networks

[modest dome]

no need tbh, im enjoyying 700 mbps already

[warm kettle]

Unless something is up with your ethernet adapter, direct ethernet connection is almost always better.

[amber belfry]

more than enough. if no ones home i can pull 900 over wifi since the mesh extender is in my room

[empty topaz]

it made me want to get my dad an ethernet cord for his shitty 2016 laptop that takes a year to load anything up. I swear that would speed his stuff up like 92% lol

[tall zinc]

the bandwidth figure over wireless is rather meaningless tbh, if you're not on a clear link on a WiFi signal you will suffer degradation in quality especially things like micro jittering due to different materials

as soon as you try communicating over a wall that's impedance on the radio waves

[empty topaz]

lol if i switch out of BF6 my latency goes way back up to 35ms... but i think that's because i'm sharing ms with other apps when i switch out

[tall zinc]

no the game has its own power save mode for when it's out of focus

[empty topaz]

well thats pretty neat

[icy ocean]

4 months into this game and there’s still roof exploits on manhattan bridge that haven’t been fixed ffs

[amber belfry]

either make it out of bounds or add elevators like in bf4. simple fix but hard for dice

[rich torrent]

How are they exploits exactly?

[empty topaz]

sometimes there is a roof that's supposed to be out of bounds but there's a sweet spot on a couple roofs that are between 2 out of bounds zones but still doesn't register you as being out of bounds, so you get free kills while no one can get you back.

kinda like the mountain sweet spots on Lib Peak

[rich torrent]

Which will not effect the match what so ever considering half the map is roof tops and it has two helis.

On a map like Cairo, understandable but that doesn't really apply to Manhattan Bridge.

[empty topaz]

yeah, the complaints before for Manhattan Bridge made more sense though but i think they patched it. The glitch where you can get on top of the bridge and no one can kill you but you can kill anyone.

[rich torrent]

Yea the Bridge complaint was understandable but fixed for awhile now.

[empty topaz]

Ngl, if RedSec was just a huge NYC manhattan full scale map, i'd play that shit so much.

[lime otter]

WHO FOR PLAY BATTLE royale ??

[candid oxide]

I for watch CS2 Krakow Gfinal

[empty topaz]

cheers people 🍃 🔥

[olive coral]

Like Division 1 meets Battlefield

[empty topaz]

exactly.

[past jasper]

if its already on ethernet then wifi doesnt matter though

[empty topaz]

i mean, changing it to 5GHz lowered my latency big time. Ethernet just helps the wifi stay more stable. It was running on 2.4GHz before that

[past jasper]

what

if you are on eth you are always gonna get the lowest latency through ethernet

[steady rune]

Guys to yall know any good guns to use for squad death match

[fiery oxide]

Anything

[past jasper]

not db12 though

[empty topaz]

Yeah, Ethernet is always lowest. The latency drop wasn’t on my PC, it was the router. Switching the router off 2.4GHz fixed the network-side latency.

2.4GHz was dragging the whole network until I disabled it.

[past jasper]

basically the router cpu isnt keeping up

[empty topaz]

Yep! the 2.4GHz radio was chewing CPU cycles and adding latency. Killing it stopped the extra overhead

[amber belfry]

do dmrs have any downsides on other classes besides losing the steady breath

[fiery oxide]

Nope

[abstract nexus]

do they even have steady breathe on recon

like it says they have it in game and then they dont cause pressing shift does nothing

[charred trench]

FOR GOD SAKE FIX CONSOLE RIG ON CROSSPLAY ITS UNPLAYABLE!!!!

[fiery oxide]

Aren't you on console?

[charred trench]

yep

[left thicket]

Gauntlet anyone the people i’ve been playing with are brain dead

[fiery oxide]

But you get free desync that helps you 99% of the time on console

[charred trench]

says who ?? you have to aim 1M ahead of player to hit them

[amber belfry]

its given me the popup for it multiple times on my svdm

[charred trench]

plus on console you need whole mag for killing one player, how that's helps ?? 🤔

[amber belfry]

doesnt seem to be the case when one kills me

[fiery oxide]

A whole mag is just you missing somehow

[charred trench]

you don't know until you play one

[hollow finch]

Modern gaming in a nutshell

[charred trench]

even without missing it won't register some

[amber belfry]

id put myself in creditcard debt for that skin in battlefield right now

[hollow finch]

I'd boycott the game for a bringing a bright color skin

[charred trench]

insta uninstall

[fiery oxide]

There's an engineer skin with bright orange on it

[ionic shard]

People were saying it was inspired by BF3 cover art but idk lol

[viscid narwhal]

Need a member to do rise from your grave trophy in Redsec.

[amber belfry]

it is, just done poorly.

chinese engineer clears anyways

[ionic shard]

Yeah they could tane down that orange

[ember loom]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-battlefield-6-hop-on-battlefield-hop-on-battlefield-6-gif-1422636198716940409

[blazing fern]

looking for people are willing to work together and just try to make top 10. no golf course….

[ember loom]

If you feel Battlefield is the best shooter so far hit me up because I feel the same https://www.twitch.tv/Jae_Wick

[amber belfry]

do people not know theres a lfg channel

[ionic shard]

I'm so mad at myself for not being able to get it.

[amber belfry]

your not alone, its very rare to see it in game

[ionic shard]

I swear I would download 2042 just to get it rn lol

[amber belfry]

get fomod

[ionic shard]

It sux

[amber belfry]

the gun skins are good to ngl. the m44

same with the beta rewards and some of the twitch drops. its a shame they dont allow them as perpetual rewards or lock them behind some challanges

[ionic shard]

Agree on that twitch drops were really good

But their tone in general somehow got worse in Season 1

I mean, I really enjoy the game. Never felt this kind of joyment since BF3 BF4 days, but they really should change their approach on skins.

[valid roost]

I think the 5.11 skin has the kind of drip/aesthetic a lot of players want. Reminds me a bit of the concept art of BF4 classes

[ionic shard]

Yeah but it sux I can't get it tho lol

Guess you have to make a 50$ purchase from 5.11 for those skins, which I can't do in my country.

[amber belfry]

yeah but its absolutely mental. its a NA company

they locked the nicer red bull dogtag behind NA to :/

[valid roost]

Im not gonna complain about collabs. I dont mind them being done. I just think that style of skin would be more desirable.

[hollow finch]

We have a 5.11 in finland

[amber belfry]

ordering 50 usd of crap for a skin is crazy. although if they do free returns its possible

[sudden chasm]

what? do we?

[indigo spire]

How does the br server works? Im playing on PS5 from saudi Arabia, when ping is below 40. But when my friend from Canada joins, i get high ping (190+) with red symbols

[fiery oxide]

It's matching you in servers in his region

[indigo spire]

Is there any trouble shooting?

[fiery oxide]

What is there to troubleshoot one of you will always have high ping regardless

[indigo spire]

When we play Apex legends together, never had this issue.

[fiery oxide]

Cause it probably has servers in a region where your average ping is similar

[rigid glacier]

When i play with a german friend it's 50/50 as to whether we're put in a UK server or German one. I don't think there's any way to force a different server outside of maybe using a VPN.

[tired flower]

^ Pretty much. I play with someone from the UK and it's pretty random whether we get NA East servers or EU servers.

[amber belfry]

when im with my na friend its almost always NA servers. could be cuz my ping is usually around 80-90

also do dmrs get glint?

[placid wyvern]

Man, pistols will be a while.

[placid wyvern]

I believe they don't.

[amber belfry]

yeah they level as slowly as a primary

[placid wyvern]

Thankfully only six.

And they're not as bad as I expected, but they definitely can't compete against most weapons.

[hollow finch]

Yes in helsinki

[rapid urchin]

Do challenges not count in the metro servers?

[hollow finch]

Nah like i'd fr need stuff. A new tactical belt for example

[crimson garden]

Alright friends! Penguin is back and ready for more nice BF6 matches over here 🚀 Does anyone have a suggested Assault Rifle for Penguin to use today during matches?

[placid wyvern]

L85.

[amber belfry]

im enjoying the b36

[rich torrent]

TR7 or you're throwing.

[hollow finch]

Use a gun that fits your playstyle, don't fit your playstyle to a gun.

[hollow finch]

🥱

[ionic vault]

javelin needs a damage buff

[hollow finch]

Why

[sudden chasm]

m433

[crimson garden]

Penguin play many different weapons 😃 The challenge is to pick what to focus on for the day Sooner or later every weapon be levelled up ⏰

Currently Penguin used M433, Kord, NVO and TR-7 a bit. Maybe give B36 or L85A a chance 😎

[sudden chasm]

B36 is decent

[crimson garden]

L85A seems to have pretty high recoil, Penguin thinks there are probably some builds to reduce it for sure

[placid wyvern]

It sure surprised me.

[hollow finch]

L85 recoils in a pretty predictable angle though

[ionic vault]

you know tanks aint survivng 4 top down attacks

[hollow finch]

How much damage does one hit generally do

[ionic vault]

220

[lone verge]

Tr7 goat bro

[rapid urchin]

l85 is the worst AR in the gun objectively

[ionic vault]

i mean atleast in bf4 it was 2-3 hit weapon

[lone verge]

even the base m4 with proper attachments

[ionic vault]

now its just a joke weapon

[lone verge]

Tr7 can 4 hit anyone past 20 meters

Recoil is easy once u get used to it

[hollow finch]

Mmm, idk. The advantage of the javelin is that tanks can't just reverse behind a little hill, rock or whatever to avoid the hit.

[placid wyvern]

Weird way to spell SOR

[amber belfry]

w eird way to spell m433

[placid wyvern]

That too

[hollow finch]

M433 is very good, it's just got lots of random recoil

Some guns are just more niche than others like the SOR.

[flint breach]

Guys I play in South Africa and in over an hour i haven’t gotten into a battle royale lobby

[placid wyvern]

Just dropped a 35 using the P18 as a primary.

[crimson garden]

Penguin thinks L8 can get a very high bullet velocity at least with extended barrel. M433 is definitely overall pretty good. Penguin used M433 a lot during the Winter offensive mode, works well

[flint breach]

Anyone wanna play?

[hollow finch]

It just doesn't feel very satisfying to use imo

I don't really care if it's objectively got the best ttk potential. The general ttk is fast enough that skill matters more than the gun

[placid wyvern]

I feel that, the crazy recoil makes some kills feel like a fluke.

[hollow finch]

I like the nvo a lot tbh. It just feels cozy using an ak platform gun. Also the 33 base damage has very good cqb potential that has come in clutch many times

It isn't very good at... What it's supposed to be good at but oh well

[steady flare]

ive been doing some long distance sniping on firestorm, man the lod distances suck in this game

[crimson garden]

When Penguin play Spec ops with SGX or SCW-10 build, NVO recently been winning more medium/longer distance duels against Penguin, since the last patch. (Penguin target area is CQB anyway if spec ops) NVO = seems to be a good choice when increasing distances a bit.

This is not entirely based on numbers alone, but what usually happens practically in action 😎

[past jasper]

433 have spread issue

[placid wyvern]

You don't say

[past jasper]

it wasnt that bad before the jan patch im pretty sure

[hollow finch]

You just need to fire it in bursts. Takes a while to get a hang of

[past jasper]

they also fucked g36 recoil with jan patch, it was a literal laser before

[tired flower]

What's it supposed to be good at?

[placid wyvern]

ok

[hollow finch]

Close to medium range but it's only good at right up in your face range and after that just... Okay

[placid wyvern]

M433 is like the gateway between Carbines and ARs.

[crimson garden]

Penguin opinion: M433 should probably have had a little better accuracy than what it currently has at medium ranges. Reason is when comparing to M4A1 Carbine apparently performing just as well as the AR M433 at those ranges currently. (The criteria here is how AR vs Carbines balances)

[hollow finch]

The 433 does significantly more damage than the m4 at mid-to long ranges so i think worse spread keeps it in check

[empty topaz]

Penguin still friend?

[crimson garden]

Penguin suspect you're probably right friend, that might make it a lot more fair/balanced

[past jasper]

@placid wyvern i take my word back from yesterday

tr7 only have horrendous recoil if you use no recoil mitigating grip and yolo with just lightened

[placid wyvern]

I don't even remember that

[crimson garden]

Hello friend! Penguin always friend, we simply having Assault Rifle discussion in chat 😃

[past jasper]

i logged on and tried one of my older build with 30 point stubby, it was super managable

[placid wyvern]

Still don't remember

[empty topaz]

I wish penguins could flyyy

[placid wyvern]

Then they wouldn't be stumpy and cute

[crimson garden]

Penguin says they shouldn't look like 👉 🦢 Penguin better sit safely in gaming chair than flying = risky ✈️ 🎣

[placid wyvern]

Rev says he wants ramen for dinner today.

Actually, too heavy.

Salad it is.

[crimson garden]

Alright friends, thanks for the chat, you will be met again! 😎 Penguin going for new matches

[abstract nexus]

Jetpacks

[placid wyvern]

Learn to Fly

Brb gotta go apply rogaine to my armpits

Anybody else hesitant to use their XP boosts because there's no telling what the match quality will be on top of them counting down in real time?

[hollow finch]

Not really, i just forget. No point in saving them

They're just xp boosts

[placid wyvern]

Ye, but in my case I'm particular towards the hardware boosts.

I want to maximize their value, you know?

[crimson garden]

Absolutely friend, + Penguin is sort of held back from using them since they count while not in a match. Considering normal behavior here is to take a little break between matches. (It is more based on a principle of ''not wasting'') 🦢

Purple views it differently, that's also fine 😃

[carmine escarp]

Is a 5050 good for playing BF6?

[crimson garden]

Penguin says, that depends on resolution, a 5050 will do the trick for 1440p, but don't expect good 4K performance. BF6 is actually more CPU heavy than GPU heavy.

[placid wyvern]

Goodness I'm too sober for this game rn

[carmine escarp]

damn, i have a i3 .w.

[zealous raven]

God they need to do something to make sniping viable in BR

[hollow finch]

Wdym viable

[candid oxide]

? _ ?

[placid wyvern]

Sniping is pretty viable in redsec

Love using the Mini in BR

[zealous raven]

the only thing you can really do if you want to actually down people for 100m+ is run double recon, otherwise, by the time you rechamber, fire, and the second bullet travels, they are jumping and sliding or behind cover. Unless of course they’re not really that good

[hollow finch]

Imo snipers are total bs at longer ranges since it's incredible easy to connect shots on this game and there is no penalty for getting hit while aiming

Also lens flare is... Questionable

[sudden chasm]

wtf i got called an aimbotter on ps5 LMAO

[zealous raven]

I think they should make add the Intervention or Barrett and make it so a headshot in sweet spot is 199dmg, and stuns them for 0.2s

[hollow finch]

Lmao

[sudden chasm]

he's insisting i use a cronus simply because my dmr is better than his

the svk 8.6 is nuts if you hit your shots

[hollow finch]

Bs gun

[sudden chasm]

2 tap from every range, it's so broken

[zealous raven]

You know when a kid finds out that germs exist and they’re terrified of germs on every little thing? That’s like shitty players when they learn that cheaters exist