battlefield-6

[tender narwhal]

cause half the challenges are bugged AF--try restarting the game to see if anything hasn't registered in the UI

[odd bay]

hmm oke

[tender narwhal]

I am an absolute claymore menace tonight 😈

[robust knoll]

[trail nova]

ashes of creation cancelled looooooool lmao and rofl

the grift is finally over boys

[tawdry cipher]

@blazing timber @bronze crystal will people outside of america be able to buy the 5.11 promo stuff ever and get the skins? I wish to buy a hoodie and get the skin but for whatever reason Australian’s cannot.

[empty topaz]

Now we just need 1348: Ex Voto to get canceled.

[trail nova]

i havent heard of that. i did kickstarter back star citizen though, so yknow

[grave portal]

Six here really has killed breakthrough for me there's no fun in it on this version. To many steam rolled matches

[autumn wharf]

whats like the meta weapons rn

[tawdry cipher]

Bruh i want the carl gustov in the game so bad, its in multiple bf6 art pieces and renders

[tender narwhal]

scw10

[abstract nexus]

Scw10 and sg553

And incendiary shotgun

[hollow jasper]

Tvr7 is also insanely goated, but IT NEEDS attachments to be half decent

Do longshot headshots still give you the meter distance as points?

[tight prism]

no

[hollow jasper]

Oh lame that it doesn't

[tight prism]

dice hate recons thats why they make some quirky nonsense to them

uncreative autospot mechanic flashlight scopes wobbly c4 drones yata yata

[hollow jasper]

I do not enjoy the auto spot, or any of the 3d spotting mechanics currently in the game

And spot assists are also lowkey dumb

[tight prism]

its babysitting for the cod plebs

[hollow jasper]

The scope glint protector does help tho

[tight prism]

i dont have issues getting seen its just its to easy to see others

and when u shoot them the killcam just fcking ruins everything even when u are behind enemy lines farming these plebs

[hollow jasper]

Gotta stay moving, I never stick around one area too long, there was a similar kill cam in bf4/3, but it didn't show the meter distance the person was too ya , it also existing in past games doesn't mean it has to be in this one

[rich torrent]

The OCE community is more than healthy - we survived R6 with 50k players without crossplay and BF6 is still hitting up to 100k players and crossplay between two consoles and another store or two.

[zealous raven]

Any way to see my BF6 store purchase history?

99.9% sure I didn’t get my 2 hardware double xp tokens from my last pack cuz I’ve only bought two things ever and they both had double hardware xp tokens lmao

Also is there any word if they’re planning to make XP tokens only count down during actual match time? Wasting minutes during matchmaking and lobby loading is annoying asf

[sturdy spindle]

no thats how it is in cod too

[green frigate]

Don't know which is the better game mode conquest or breakthrough....cause breakthrough is nothing but bots and conquest is nothing but roof snipers and tummy no caps.

[abstract nexus]

I ljke spot assists i appreciate anything that rewards not killing

Anything that encourages support gameplay like spotting repairing smoking etc

[heady gale]

How else would they get you to buy more ?

[languid mural]

bro, C4 explosions being sequential instead of immediate and them disappearing after death is so bs

also gutting throwing knives

[zealous raven]

I was just using whatever coins I somehow got with the battle pass or otherwise

[tender narwhal]

c4 driving me nuts

[zealous raven]

But there’s no chance I’m ever spending another dime cuz not worth my time to make a ticket with EA for the tokens and now I don’t trust them 💀

[tender narwhal]

trigger also takes like 4 seconds to detonate

[languid mural]

ye and its literally their intended use
like holy Im not trying to use them to kill infantry, Im not even talking to use them to destroy walls because suddenly every wall is load-bearing
Im talking about sneaking up to a vehicle that can delete you in an instant if the gunner just turns around, and then dying in the middle of explosions because the gunner DID turn around or 5 people spawned on the tank or whatever
and then it just disappears and u deal 300 dmg
and even then if its successful the tank can have a perk to just live

[zealous raven]

Anyone got some verifiable clips of hitreg issues? I’m starting to wonder what’s real after watching a slowmo breakdown on a sniper vid

[languid mural]

like holy shit how are these things not adjusted for like almost instantly? I know people are complaining vehicles are fragile but no one says its because of C4, because if you let someone walk up to you its on you

[twin horizon]

yo wtf did they do in this new update the game feels like absolute ass

[zealous raven]

Mnk?

[twin horizon]

yea

[zealous raven]

NVIDIA, GSYNC?

[tight prism]

Get a better pc and stop blaming hardware issues on the game

[twin horizon]

have a $2500 pc lil bro

[zealous raven]

The game has a mouse stutter issue for NVIDIA players depending on their settings and driver

[tight prism]

Price doesn’t mean good

[twin horizon]

i have AMD

[languid mural]

ye bro we should all get $10k pcs because they cannot figure out optimization

[tight prism]

Software. Drivers. All kinds of things.

[subtle sluice]

Hmm that is a useless msg if i ever seen one

[zealous raven]

No idea then, every time I’ve helped someone and fixed it it was NVIDIA. But I would suggest using DDU then reinstalling latest graphics drivers first and foremost

Cuz that’s basically what’s fixed it for most NVIDIA ppl

[tight prism]

Like 90% of the posts in this server

[subtle sluice]

Kinda true

[zealous raven]

Seems to be some sort of issue between DWM, fullscreen mode type, and low latency features like freesync or GSYNC somehow triggering FG

[abstract nexus]

Whats FG

[subtle sluice]

what you guys best build for like the drs

[tight prism]

I’m using light supp, heavy extended, ribbed stub, red laser, 1.75x

[jagged dome]

Are aws servers down? I cant play siege bf or madden

[cursive coyote]

should i use dlss and/or nvidia low latency on+boost?

[hollow jasper]

Join the dark side and use the tvr7

God damn Bonnie Tyler's total eclipse of the heart always makes me think of that BF4 Chinese attack helicopter scene where they shoot out the car window with the mp412 rex

[trail nova]

healthy until 10pm then we get full bot lobbies and they all have nerfed XP so no gun progression vs bots

[stray eagle]

Is there any data on weapon usage?

I'd love to see dice post a full spreadsheet on weapon usage, average k/d per weapon, engagement distance, etc, I love random stats like this

[zealous raven]

Ayo? I never used my free tier skips from BF Pro. But I’m not allowed to use them on the bonus path?

[subtle sluice]

did someone said my name ?

[quick wolf]

nope

[jagged dome]

Siege does that kinds stuff

[quick wolf]

zowie za-13 or razer viper 3?

don't know which one to get

[subtle sluice]

what what the what now

[hollow jasper]

Mice

[quick wolf]

just tried 1600dpi and realize I need a new mouse... this 400 dpi is bad

can't even swipe lol

[hollow jasper]

I use a red dragon predator m613 RGB, it has a variable DPI I usually use the 1600, but it goes to like 4k or 8k, it's like 20 bucks

[quick wolf]

hmm ill check it out.. I picked those 2 because of the ambi design

[stray eagle]

idk why but for some reason early game I just suck

I'll go like 2-10 and then finish the game 40-15

its really hurting my kd

[cyan plume]

Been away for a week how do you do the frost fire path ??

[stray eagle]

wdym? just do the missions?

[hollow jasper]

Takes a few minutes to lock in, it happens to me, you gotta get your A game with listening to audio cues and scanning the horizon for people shapes

Braking that concentration with texting between deaths and rounds doesn't help either lol

[stray eagle]

I mean sure you'd think that'd be it, but I can be tearing up a previous game, then the moment I load into a new match I'm terrible again

idk maybe I just "un" lock in very easily

[hollow jasper]

It's cause you broke it by locking in on something else, like texting betwixt matches

[hollow jasper]

Perchance, I usually lock in with the ganjaronie

[real kraken]

anyone else run into an issue where all the buildings are loading the lod texture, and all the buildings are either see through, or walk throughable

not sure what to change, playing on an NVME

[cyan plume]

Where are the missions I can’t see them 😂

[tight prism]

Weeklies

[stray eagle]

they should be under "challenges" in the menu

[fallen forum]

is the long suppressor's extra sway noticeable on a 2x scope

[harsh jay]

Had that issue on redsec before I got new pc. I think it was processor but not completely sure. In main mp I had issue with invisible enemy players for 1st half minute

[hollow jasper]

No it's not noticeable really on any scope, unless you're using above a 6x

[fallen forum]

why even offer lightened surppressor to weapons that aren't dmrs/snipers then

[hollow jasper]

It reduces recoil straight up, that's the main thing of it, and lowkey the 30pt recoil build up suppressor is better it prevents bloom from happening as quickly as it would otherwise, and pair it with eh blue 20pt ads accuracy while moving Lazer

[fallen forum]

i mean why would you use lightened over long if you aren't using a high magnification scope

[tropic solstice]

why they call it bloom and not deviation

[hollow jasper]

I dunno

[tropic solstice]

bloom is what flowers do and a graphical term

[hollow jasper]

I dunno either, I guess because it 'blooms' out over time

[abstract nexus]

Long adds weapon sway which ends up being another factor in inaccuracy

For 5 points you can prevent that

[gloomy oracle]

the weapon sway for a good amount of guns probably is a non-factor, especially since going for body shots is just far more efficient then aiming at the head in BF6 currently

but if you like not having to deal with it sure why not.

[abstract nexus]

True

Personally with all the rng bs that is bf6 shooting i personally dont wanna deal with one more factor

I already gotta hope spread doesnt screw me over and the net code doesnt decide my whole burst never existed I dont need my character to shift a little funny and contribute to remodeling the wall behind my target

[granite igloo]

I’ve been playing less cause of the hit reg and net code

[abstract nexus]

But yeah at like 20m engagements sway shouldn't do anything other than maybe made smth that should have been a headshot be a body shot

[gloomy oracle]

i've never had problem with spread in BF6 versus older titles tbh. Much easier. The Netcode though makes it definitly feel like it could be gimping you. Is probably why guns like KORD with high RPM do so well. Hoose bullets to make up for the 8% missing bullets

[hot hawk]

its crazy how much better guns are with attachments then at low level

[abstract nexus]

Probably yeah. Better fire rate more room for error. Miss with the rpk and you're losing much more time than missing with the m433

As for spread you can see it here and there especially with low recoil guns where you know it wasnt any recoil that led to those stray shots, or a headshot got you no bonus damage because it deviated lower, but you're probably right it likely is just the net code making spread seem like a bigger deal

[gloomy oracle]

its always beent he case in BF. Half the guns are only good with attachments. nothing has changed there i think. I still wish they removed the auto spotting from the muzzles so there would be more options that FEEL viable. It's stupid recon easy crutch auto spotting and sweet spot annoying as it is. THen tugs, drones, More drones, class active. RIP

[abstract nexus]

Its probably even worse for me because I have spectrum and spectrum is ass I get killed behind cover alot so mu experience is probably a bit more off the deep end compared to most players

[abstract nexus]

Muzzle 3d spotting is terrible it shouldn't be a thing

Why would anyone run a brake if it'll just get them killed

[hot hawk]

yeah im not playing this shit till they fix the issues

[abstract nexus]

Wow I can control my tr7 better! But now all of pax armada knows im here and im gonna get fondled by 11teen million scw10 users

[hot hawk]

love when someone is lag switching me mid fight

[tight prism]

Nobody cheating

[abstract nexus]

Idk about switching but people are def cheating ive seen a few

[hot hawk]

nah both fights he killed me my shit lagged

didnt any other time

[abstract nexus]

Ive never seen lagswitching outside of fgs I didnt know it was a thing in shooters

[tight prism]

Doesn’t mean lag switched.

[hot hawk]

they just need to fix things, idk why they cant do it

[warm yarrow]

was HDR fixed yet

[tight prism]

It’s not broke

[heady gale]

.

[quick wolf]

Ordered the Red Dragon m916 thanks

saved me some cash lol

[warm yarrow]

it was very broken the last time i was on

and had a few people in here confirm it was for them too, the slider isnt working

[hollow jasper]

Yeah no problem! Mice in all honestly most people shouldn't ever spend over 30-40 bucks on, there's just about no need to pump cash into it unless you're doing specialized things with it or need a bunch of extra button

[hollow jasper]

How are the stats going girlie goo?

[heady gale]

Lemme check after this match

[heady gale]

Up to a 6.95 player KD

[subtle sluice]

yo is that Xolpei the best support Eu with a 7kd ?

[heady gale]

😭😭😭😭

[subtle sluice]

😎 🙏

[hollow jasper]

Oh nice, I've been trying to get that up recently, I want my stat card to accurately reflect how my matches have been going with around a 1.8-4.5 kdr

I got a 7.0 kdr match earlier today, went 21 and 3 on the last handful of minutes

[heady gale]

Had like two 40 and 1 games earlier

[hollow jasper]

Oh dang bet those felt nice as fuck, sg553 for em? Or what were you doin'?

[heady gale]

M240, just the gun im getting to 50 rn

[hollow jasper]

Oh nice, the next gun I'm going to work on is the m277, I'm doing tvr7 rn I still will play with that regularly, wanna keep and raise my position with it as well lol top 4.2 bay beeeee whoopoo

[subtle sluice]

hmm

[hollow jasper]

Hmmm?

[languid mural]

second time I shoot someone with a grenade launcher and it doesnt explode for whatever reason

second time in two days

[tribal zodiac]

The TR7 really sucks btw

[subtle sluice]

lies

[hollow jasper]

I happen to enjoy it, but the moment we get a groza or as val/ sa58/FNFAL esque weapon ill switch full sail over to that

[tribal zodiac]

The SOR 300 or SG553 will do exactly what a TR7 does and more

[hollow jasper]

You should try it with the 30pts recoil reducing suppressor, the 20pt no accuracy reduction fore grip, the 20pt no accuracy reduction blue Lazer, and the 2.5x scope

[subtle sluice]

razr has a deep hate for the tr7

[hollow jasper]

I mean sg553 yes, not the SOR300

[tribal zodiac]

And i've used the TR7 with every config imaginable, there is no combo that makes it good

[inland nymph]

Tr7 has amazing damage range what is this guy on about. Alternatively the SG553r has no recoil so that works on the other side.

[hollow jasper]

He can't control recoil?

[subtle sluice]

ooh boy

[heady gale]

😭😭😭😭

[inland nymph]

The TR7 is a wild beast and isn't for everyone understandably.

[subtle sluice]

it was fun knowing him

[hollow jasper]

I usually tap that bad boi and get kills all day till the cows come home

[tribal zodiac]

Assuming you can land your shots

[inland nymph]

I use the lightened suppressor & classic vertical I believe. The 25 point straight grip and it works well for me.

[hollow jasper]

18% accuracy rn

[inland nymph]

The TR7 kills in 3 shots out to 20 metres meaning that the effort required is paid off pretty well. I should check my own stats.

[hollow jasper]

Which is not the worst for an automatic weapon, my accuracy with the m2010 is like 40 ish

[hollow jasper]

And it's no matter what a 5 shot kill at range or less

[tribal zodiac]

It's my second worst damage per minute gun out of all the ARs or carbines, and ive gotten them all to 50+

[heady gale]

Hmm

[hollow jasper]

That's fine, I still do well with it

[inland nymph]

HA I got 25% accuracy with the Tr7 which is pretty nice.

[hollow jasper]

I happen to like how it feels more so than just about any other weapon besides the m417

[hollow jasper]

That's kinda insane I'd hate to fight you

[inland nymph]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1000160170684/weapons

[hollow jasper]

Oh dang you're like the boss version of me

[languid mural]

idk about the whole accuracy tracking
this thing shows me 157% accuracy on a shotgun kek

[inland nymph]

Yeah shotguns not really the most reliable. Though anything else it means something.

I got all my Assault rifles to mastery 50 so I am just getting the kills for my weapons up.

[subtle sluice]

hMm

[hollow jasper]

I mean that makes sense, shotguns are the only class of weapons that can go above 100% because I think it goes by shells/cartridge's fired to projectiles hit

[inland nymph]

I got a build for the DRS IAR if you want to give it a go. It's a lot of fun.

[hollow jasper]

I've tried it out a few times I don't really like it lol

[inland nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365902398366810142/1467004265468792904/image.png?ex=69801f30&is=697ecdb0&hm=ca88ac57382ef94940f3eb4bdc11f4ee6974dd0bc06f18df1d4bd30c8509505f&

[hollow jasper]

I like the more skill (ish maybe depending on view) based weapons I've found, more so slower firing and harder hitting

[languid mural]

my best weapon is m4a1 and my second best is m433 which I have only played during the open beta

[inland nymph]

It's really just an assault rifle for support and it's one of the nicer weapons to run. It has a low ADS movement speed but in turn it is extremely accurate.

The m433 is super nice though I am concerned about the VHS-2 just simply overtaking it.

[hollow jasper]

Oh yeah, I've been thinking about running the rpk74 and pretending it's an akm

[inland nymph]

The 7.62x39MM damage model sucks. I gave that thing synthetic ammo and I enjoyed it heaps. Btw you do not need to ping me with every comment. xD

[hollow jasper]

According to leaks it's not that bad

[inland nymph]

The VHS-2 is just simply a more juiced up M433.

[sudden chasm]

new guns for s2 leaked? or? what happened

[hollow jasper]

It's a croatian famas

[inland nymph]

Yeah they were leaked and we know what they are. I am not looking forward to the Grot C. Mostly because it'll be bad.

[sudden chasm]

what gun is that?

[hollow jasper]

Yes, and exposed in the labs testing, which I can say I was a part of and I enjoyed and that's it

[inland nymph]

Uhhhh you know the Grot BC, The bullpup carbine? Basically this is a DMR version of it unbullpupped.

[sudden chasm]

oh

[inland nymph]

You don't need to reply ping with every comment btw

[sudden chasm]

lmao 😭

[hollow jasper]

It's just something I'm used to doing, sorry lol

[inland nymph]

Yeah that's fair I do appreciate the acknowledgement.

[tribal zodiac]

Says who

[sudden chasm]

is there any other guns coming than the grt-c and the vhs?

[inland nymph]

I gave the m240L a go a bit ago and it's kinda nasty. It makes me wonder what the mg5 a go.

[hollow jasper]

M121 aka the mg5

[hollow jasper]

According to leaks it's a sub 200ms kill in under like 15m

[inland nymph]

Me? It is incredibly annoying.

BASICALLY it'll be the NVO but good.

[sudden chasm]

any info on weapon balancing changes?

the nvo is good already

[inland nymph]

Uhhhh I heard a rumour that the SCW will have more recoil but couldn't fully confirm. And that the RPG will have slower velocity.

[hollow jasper]

M240l is my favorite LMG in any battlefield game besides mg4/mg42

[inland nymph]

I'll be honest. I wanted to love the NVO but it's low effort low reward.

If it had a longer 4HK range I would enjoy it more.

[heady gale]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone care about reply pings before icl

[hollow jasper]

I didn't like it when I tried it out, but I also didn't get very many attachments, I thought it had insane bloom pretty fast(sorry I just realized I reply pinged)

[subtle sluice]

i do

[inland nymph]

It's annoying when it happens all the time.

[heady gale]

That’s an awful shame

[sudden chasm]

a bloom reduction for the nvo would be nice, then it would be great

[heady gale]

I hope you have fun on battlefield twin

[inland nymph]

The NVO is accurate, No recoil, No spread. But I won't lie. Its has pretty low power at a range.

But I guess that is the point behind it. If it had a 4HK range then sure.

[hollow jasper]

It's probably from them being on PC and getting a noise in their ears for it while I'm typing on my phone in the bar I work at drinking

[inland nymph]

I use the light barrel on it because why not.

[heady gale]

Do not disturb

[sudden chasm]

i still honestly like the nvo since it was the first gun i got to level 50 not too long ago

[hollow jasper]

Sorry : (

[heady gale]

Good

[subtle sluice]

meh not the same without u twin

[sudden chasm]

then i got the kord to level 50, but now idk what gun to play with

[inland nymph]

Yeah I love the NVO 228e in design and all but its ingame performance just bores me really quickly.

[heady gale]

🙏🙏🙏

[inland nymph]

When I was getting to mastery 50 with all my primaries I was constantly jumping between AR, LMG and SMG. You could probably do the same.

[hollow jasper]

I find a gun and just wanna play with that one for a while, one of the first ones I got through massively was the SVD

[sudden chasm]

i tend to switch guns a lot, so most of the guns i usually play with are like level 10-30

[inland nymph]

It was a "Ohhh I want to play with this" and then "I want to play with that" and it is how I got through MOST of the guns.

[subtle sluice]

hope you have sweet dream twin 😎

[sudden chasm]

i liked the UMG/UMP when i played with it for a bit

[hollow jasper]

That's me rn , with choosing gun

[inland nymph]

Oh yeah, I would just get my guns done all at once. The levelling wasn't too bad it was just dependent on the gun. The worst gun I had to use was the DP12.

[hollow jasper]

I've heard a lot of people say that and the ak 205 are terrible

[inland nymph]

I am looking forward to the MG5 and VHS-2 because it'll mean I get to farm with some potentially overtuned weapons.

[sudden chasm]

the ak205 isn't terrible tbh, it's decent at range and it's even better with the hollow points or synth rounds

[inland nymph]

Yes. The Ak205 is bad. Even with synthetic ammo the damage range at a range is so low that any player with a functional braincell (Pretty surprising for battlefield) can outgun.

You need to abuse movement to the max. I.E Crouch spamming side to side to have some semblance of a chance.

[sudden chasm]

or just sit really far back somewhere and tap heads

[inland nymph]

Though at least versus the DP12 I could understand its niche. And I did hit a 100 kill game with the AK205 so I cannot be TOO mad.

The part that made the 205 akward for me was the lack of an extended barrel and those significantly improve hitreg at a range for obvious reasons.

[sudden chasm]

from what i've used the ak-205, it's really just meh, but it's not awful

[subtle sluice]

what you guys arguing about honnestly ?

[hollow jasper]

I don't think the VHS is that overpowered, from the leaks that I have seen, it does have a 900 rpm ROF, but I think they gave it a faster damage fall off, again, from the leaks I have seen

[inland nymph]

In my experience, The mp7 with synthetic ammo did a way better job.

Actually by the way, The mp7 with synthetic ammo actually made the SMG's feel weak for me.

[sudden chasm]

i haven't really even played with the smg's much lately, might have to go back to them

[hollow jasper]

Interesting, wouldn't it only do like 24 damage max with synthetic?

[sudden chasm]

i've been playing with AR's, carbines and LMG's lately

[inland nymph]

How I use the weapons don't work as well for you though I would like to make it clear. I like to be passive aggressive which is why the mp7 wound up working better for me.

Oh nah the MP7 does 25 max to the head with synthetic. At a range the TTK is oh so very nice.

[tribal zodiac]

I just started SMGs and the mp5 honestly feels broken

[inland nymph]

Not gonna lie I forgot about carbines even though last night I made some SG553R assault main mad with my M7.

He had the better gun and he cried hard whenever I out maneuvered him.

[tribal zodiac]

Like i got 98 kills with just the default build mp5 on my first match with it

[inland nymph]

Mp5 was whatever. I just stuck synthetic onto it and did whatever.

[modest jackal]

Ok, but a minimum of 9-Shots to kill is Diabolical.

[inland nymph]

I am not really impressed with SMG's not because they are easy but because they just don't do anything exciting, Even though the SCW and Vector have the best TTK in the game.

[sudden chasm]

just hit those 9 shots

[tribal zodiac]

Mind you i dont switch guns a lot, i've been going down the list using guns exclusively until they're level 50

[hollow jasper]

Try out the m417 I love it

[inland nymph]

I have used all the primaries.

[tribal zodiac]

I have all ARs, snipers and carbines done

[inland nymph]

I have gotten all* the primaries to mastery 50.

[tribal zodiac]

I just started SMGs and i havent used any smgs prior to yesterday

Well my snipers add up to like level 1000 if you add them all together lol

I'd be done with the rest of the guns already if i didnt snipe so much

[sudden chasm]

how many hours do yall have in the game? i have like 40-45h so far

[tribal zodiac]

658.2

[inland nymph]

345 hours of in game time.

[subtle sluice]

same

[modest jackal]

Yeah, with the exception of the MP7, all of the SMGs have the same Damage Drop-Off Points. I'm not kidding: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146389736290787389/1466598761374552338/Screenshot_20260130-015559.png?ex=697ff708&is=697ea588&hm=38a22a216a29b253884a124643e2945df6dfccccdfe874c364e31d3a01d9f689&

[sudden chasm]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1011480817993/overview i think that's 45 or something, right?

[inland nymph]

I am aware, As per normal with battlefield.

[subtle sluice]

oh yeah right

[inland nymph]

43 hours yeah that is close enough.

I should drop my stats again to be funny. https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1000160170684/overview

[sudden chasm]

i forgot actually, i've been playing a lot with the QBZ recently, i love that gun

[subtle sluice]

i have 823.9

[modest jackal]

God, the UMG-40 looks so pitiful.

[inland nymph]

QBZ was ok. I messed with synth on it and just moved on.

[tribal zodiac]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1001933324299/overview me next

[sudden chasm]

i'm loving the QBZ even without synth rounds

[inland nymph]

A lot of the weapons with bad damage ranges you can just give synthetic and mix up your aiming habits by going to the head.

Yeah some of the guns were very "there"

[tribal zodiac]

my spm and kpm are crawling up, ive been averaging like 800 spm and 3.5 kpm for a month straight and its just taking forever for my main stats to catch up

[subtle sluice]

https://tracker.gg/bf6/profile/1003008631535/overview me too metoo

[sudden chasm]

the umg is apparently my 3rd most played with smg lmao

i've played with it for 1h 26m

[languid mural]

Ive played 75 hours with m4a1

[sudden chasm]

i wasn't expecting the qbz to be my most played carbine lol

[languid mural]

my next best is like 10 hours
the gun is nice

[inland nymph]

Shouldn't your rank be higher considering you have more kills.

Ehhhh I guess it kinda plataus up there. I just want to get certain guns done.

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah im not sure what thats about

[inland nymph]

I fear I am having the bf1 conundrum where I am getting bored of guns easily.

[tribal zodiac]

But i dont have the battlepass and i never cared to do any challenges

I also would hit the xp cap frequently but continue playing anyways

[inland nymph]

Ah that would do it.

[tribal zodiac]

Though obviously the xp cap isnt really an issue anymore

[inland nymph]

Yeah I lost a lot of willpower playing 2042 so I cannot play full days anymore.

[subtle sluice]

dont talk about that i still have nightmare about it

[sudden chasm]

ngl, this is my first battlefield i've actually been interested in playing other than like bf2042 when it was free on ps plus ages ago

[robust knoll]

nice, it's not bad

[inland nymph]

Yeahhhhh 2042 deserves to be forgotten. Even bf5 despite its troubled history would have been a better intro.

[languid mural]

bf2042 though had some fun things to do in case you were bored of playing regularly

[subtle sluice]

im sure if the xp cap wasnt a thing you and me would be higher lvl

[velvet kayak]

My SPM is only 430 but I only play Conquest now (and not sure if that is best mode for SPM).

[sudden chasm]

i've been having fun on this game tbh, it's been alright

[inland nymph]

700 SPM I am a bit surprised about but I guess it is what it is.

I am more proud that my KPM is a 3. Though that is what I get for abusing spawn beacons as an assault main LMAO.

[subtle sluice]

do you guys like my profile 😎

[sudden chasm]

my spm is 420, i don't really play obj modes much though, i often end up playing tdm with my dad

[inland nymph]

That is really cute

[subtle sluice]

thank you too

[split vine]

Here's your mention, don't spend it in one place

[median verge]

WHY HAVENT THEY ADDED THE NEW VICS TO THE OLD MAPS YET??

[robust knoll]

👍

[sudden chasm]

my kpm is 2.5 though, idk how good or bad that is 😅

[subtle sluice]

@tribal zodiac idk why my spm is low

[inland nymph]

Oh no a KPM + 2 is good.

[subtle sluice]

huh

[tribal zodiac]

Because you spent 99% of your time on this game defending the hq

[subtle sluice]

used to *

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah good luck raising it lol

[subtle sluice]

😭

[sudden chasm]

me and him both come from cod, but he doesn't really like playing bigger maps and i can't be bothered to nag him about it so we just play what he wants

although when i play alone, that's usually when i'll play a few breakthroughs here and there if i'm on the game

[subtle sluice]

433.12 spm 😭

[plain sinew]

my spm is ass cause i dont cap obj, i push pass them and let my teams secure it

[subtle sluice]

same

[tribal zodiac]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[plain sinew]

pushing pass to take vantage points

[tribal zodiac]

I will give up obj points to make a different play to ensure we win a lot of the time

[sudden chasm]

i've slowly been trying to convince my dad to try redsec though, he's just not a fan of the downed players thing and the semi long ttk

[plain sinew]

push pass point into 1 of the spawn to keep them from spawning, then swing around to hit them from the back as they try to retake

[sudden chasm]

just sit 400m away with a tank and farm them

[tribal zodiac]

That or defend another obj

[plain sinew]

i get told to ptfo so much, like where do you think im getting these kills? avg close to 54 kills/match and still climbing

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah obj points arent everything

My playstyle is definitely evolving and my winrate definitely shows it

My winrate has been 80% for like a month

[subtle sluice]

razr why mirak is the only map im able to play iron sight

[tribal zodiac]

Positioning

[subtle sluice]

huh

[tribal zodiac]

Its not a map problem

You have good positioning on mirak but not the other maps

Like now that i can stream again you can watch my vods to see how i play lol

[torpid heart]

if the season 2 patch doesnt buff the db12 i dont think ill ever manage to lvl50 all the shotguns

[modest ruin]

how long does lv50 a gun take
ive been trying to get all guns to level 20 and im already sick of some of them by the end lol

[tribal zodiac]

1200 kills roughly

[subtle sluice]

yeah

lvl 23

i dont like it that much but it aint bad

[tribal zodiac]

Do do have the ro-m and a different 1.75?

[subtle sluice]

ro-m ?

[modest ruin]

im on the m1014 rn
trying out slugs
idk why it feels impossible to land hits sometimes
maybe projectile velocity really slow?

[subtle sluice]

yeah

[tribal zodiac]

@rich torrent #screenshots-and-clips message yeah it seems to only be an sgx issue?

[subtle sluice]

the rom aint 1.75 for sure lmao

[tight prism]

I use the rom 1.75x on a bunch of weapons. Haven’t had the 1x issue but I haven’t used sgx in a while

[tribal zodiac]

I dont have any other SMGs levelled up enough yet

idk if its only the sgx or all smgs, ill find out when i complete the mp5 today

[tight prism]

I used mp5 earlier tonight without issue on the optic

At least in the range anyway

[tribal zodiac]

Yeah this was in game too

[tight prism]

I will test it as well when I play later to confirm if it’s wide spread

[tribal zodiac]

I normally run the A-P2 or iron sights, i really dislike the 3v and will settle on the ROM, but i tried to use it on the sgx last night and got really confused lol

[tribal zodiac]

Well i can tell you for sure that it doesnt do it on ARs or carbines

[tight prism]

Lmgs either. I played with drs earlier in match no issue

[subtle sluice]

i cant build a good kv9 build like should i run the 17 fast mag ?

[tribal zodiac]

Anyways im off to stream some breakthrough

[amber belfry]

i ran the 21 one

[tired flower]

Mines at 441 likely due to me tanking it in escalation trying to complete the Engie and Recon challenges

[tribal zodiac]

Why is the 357 so buns

[tribal zodiac]

we have a slot open

[tired flower]

I have to go to and work stick my head in a fume hood rn 😭

[subtle sluice]

it ok ill take the support place

[tired flower]

[rocky shard]

sigh, when you use your last reroll on a weapons daily and forgot sidearms was an option

[outer birch]

Lfg

[fiery oxide]

Just use any of the revolvers

[rich torrent]

Only DICE could make an issue like this happen from a small update. 💀

I tried it on the M240 and it was still a 1.75x so definitely seems like an SGX issue.

[flat creek]

pls help me to battle royale

[harsh jay]

If you're playing with randoms. Only go for duos, not quads

[flat creek]

i'm duo

[harsh jay]

Idk. I don't play redsec much but the only win I got was in duo. We dominated with blackhawk.

Probably best vehicle in br since barely anyone is using anti air

[modest jackal]

I don't get it.

Like, what's the problem for that Optic for the SGX?

[amber belfry]

its zoom is wrong on that gun from what i gathered

[modest jackal]

Ah, so it's Zoom is more like 2.5x?

[languid mural]

idk man, since this update people seem to just eat my grenade launcher projectiles

[rich torrent]

It's a 1.75x but in game it's a 1.0x.

[modest jackal]

Ah.

So it basically turns into a Clearer Iron Sight.

[flat creek]

no its 6 not redsec 😐

[rich torrent]

Pretty much and at that point you might aswell use the Mini Flex.

[tribal zodiac]

the clip i posted, the a-p2 is 1.75x like normal, but the rom thats supposed to be a 1.75 is a 1x zoom for some reason

[mortal dust]

Can they PLEASE bring back freedom of mousepointer to PC - so damn sick of this console shit select crap... ffs

[rugged mango]

???

[robust knoll]

having to use the keyboard on the menu to cycle through items

[mortal dust]

yeah

[rich torrent]

What freedom don't we have exactly?

[tribal zodiac]

The deploy menu lol

[mortal dust]

move the pointer where ever I want. Not 1 target to another.. 9of10 it selects a target i dont wanna spawn on - eg: spawn or a afk dude in base, or a camper. 👍

[tribal zodiac]

The deploy menu is beyond busted on this game for whatever reason

[mortal dust]

Yep - it is 100% made for console players.

[rich torrent]

If I am understanding you correctly, this is a bug and not a consistent thing.

I can move wherever I want but rarely I get an issue where I can only switch spawns via WASD but then it's fixed next death.

[mortal dust]

its been a bg since 4th week? XD

[rich torrent]

Are you surprised?

It's not like DICE is quick to act on things.

Examples: Air Radar, MR Missile, Drone/Sledgehammer, Mouse Stutters.

Just to name a few.

[mortal dust]

Alright 😛 it s bug then - thanks

[pseudo lichen]

I'm live on Twitch, come hang out! https://www.twitch.tv/perryator930?sr=a

[hardy pasture]

No

[tired flower]

Fine I didn't want to invite you to my birthday party anyway

[latent zealot]

Add me giangfx

[subtle sluice]

Am i invited ?

[robust knoll]

🚬

[modest dome]

if militia skin exist, where are the police/ICE skins

[tight prism]

bro wants to do a little roleplay and reenact some events

[modest dome]

i bet you didnt see the official reveal trailer

[sullen harness]

Hey, do you know if the 323 pack will ever be available again?

[fiery oxide]

You don't

[tired flower]

Of course

[tame nest]

144 days without air radar

[tulip gull]

Never liked fomo bundles, glad I got the 323 when it was in the store

[twin horizon]

144 DAYS WITHOUT A STABLE NETCODE WITHOUT GOOD HIT REGISTRATION this game is a hot mess and the recent update they clearly f*cked it up cause it feels so garbage on PC like A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANY AAA cant get their shit together its tiring im over it and they recent appealed to the cod players and made sliding and momentum slide further and made it easier to jump shoot like bro

[sturdy spindle]

did u record gameplay of the bad hit reg

[twin horizon]

Yes lmao

[sturdy spindle]

can u show in #screenshots-and-clips

[tribal zodiac]

Come play breakthrough

100% win rate

[twin horizon]

there

this was recently and you cant even say it was my aim...sis i was on that mans head

[sturdy spindle]

u literally missed every shot

[twin horizon]

look again

[languid mural]

this game is so frustrating

[sturdy spindle]

id probably be ur best teammate when u think about it

[tender cradle]

You died before the last shot registered server side.

See this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRjinAVoIAo

[rich torrent]

Hit Reg issues exist but people really need to start using the graph that shows client vs server hits.

[tribal zodiac]

Come prove it, we got a spot

[sturdy spindle]

ppl just have to own up to their bad aim

[rich torrent]

Isn't your KD like 2.4?

[tender cradle]

is that bad? Sounds good to me

[sturdy spindle]

yea i play solo in modes without 50 revive bots and i still carry the win 70% of the time

[rich torrent]

For someone stating that hit reg issues don't exist and it's bad aim, you should definitely be pushing more than a 2.4 KD.

[tribal zodiac]

I mean hes not wrong either way

[sturdy spindle]

im outside

[marble stag]

And the bad aim copers need to come to terms with that the hitreg/netcode is utter ass at times in bf6 lol

[tribal zodiac]

People just think they cant miss for some reason

[humble trench]

k/d depends so much on solo/party queue and which game mode

[tender cradle]

what? 2.4kd is definitely above average

[twin horizon]

who tf cares about respectfully especially in BF

[marble stag]

You're in a server dedicated to the game, not caring about the game would be kinda weird if you're in here lol.

[sturdy spindle]

if i was like razr who mained a straight line mode with 50 support teammates and squaded up with 3 ppl who glaze me so hard all they do is revive me id have a pretty good kd

[twin horizon]

i meant KD

[rich torrent]

Above average sure but not great.

Regardless, they consistently claim hit reg issues don't exist and just accuse people of bad aim.

[marble stag]

I care about kd

[twin horizon]

yikes

[marble stag]

2.4kd is well above average The average is like 1.2 accross all players lol.

[sturdy spindle]

100% of the videos sent about bad hit reg were just bad aim

[marble stag]

Why yikes?

[rich torrent]

Doesn't mean hit reg isn't a major issue.

[tender cradle]

2.4 is like top 15%...

[sturdy spindle]

except its used as an excuse very often in many games

[tribal zodiac]

I dont brag about my kd tho

[marble stag]

Honestly out of all shooters i've played recently, bf6 has one of the worst hit detection at times ive'ran into

[sturdy spindle]

[rich torrent]

Indeed but you consistently state that it doesn't happen.

[tribal zodiac]

All my other stats yes

[tender cradle]

2.6 kd is top 11%, so 2.4 has to be close

[marble stag]

Genuinely painful at times lol.

[sturdy spindle]

if it were to happen that badly, the clips would be shown way more often of bullets legit not registering, it just doesnt add up

[marble stag]

I'm aware, i'm at 2.58

[tired flower]

Someone is just mald they don't have any friends willing to press E when said someone dies

[marble stag]

@tribal zodiac gg i'm more accurate with the mini scout than you

[twin horizon]

its a major issue even the netcode there are many videos on youtube going into detail about the issues of BF6 and why if they dont make S2 good the game most likely gonna die before s3 or 4 at best

[rich torrent]

There's a literal graph in the settings to show client hits vs server hits.

Hit reg issues do exist, and I've experienced up to 50% not registering before the Dec 9th update.

[marble stag]

[tribal zodiac]

Iron sights btw

[sturdy spindle]

show gameplay of it

[tender cradle]

the frequency of people saying it happens is just overstated.

[rich torrent]

Do you know how the graph works?

[rich torrent]

Still doesn't change the fact that the issues exist.

[twin horizon]

tf is up with you lmao sis thinks shes top 100 acting like the game is in a good state

[tender cradle]

first row: server side
second row: client side
third row: shots fired

[tender cradle]

they exist, but not to the same frequency that most people say it happens.

[humble trench]

u cant read it realtime tho its too fast, u have to record it kekw

[rich torrent]

Which isn't the topic at hand.

[sturdy spindle]

the clips dont lie man

[rich torrent]

Neither does the graph.

[sturdy spindle]

so ur not gonna show ur gameplay

[twin horizon]

rewatch the clip closely or do i have to make a more detailed break down for you

[tender cradle]

it is, it happens significantly less than people say it does

[rich torrent]

Why would I record said gameplay exactly?

What am I going to do with it?

[sturdy spindle]

get shown that it was ur own aim that was off

[rich torrent]

The topic at hand is that hit reg doesn't exist, like at all.

[twin horizon]

also so youre denying the game is in a bad state

[rich torrent]

Again, learn how the graph works.

[sturdy spindle]

i mean kinda #screenshots-and-clips message

[twin horizon]

lmao i see what youre doing just stop its so cringe lmao

[marble stag]

Cringe music choice, nice clip though

[sturdy spindle]

[rich torrent]

Your clips are a bunch of single or double kills. 💀

[sturdy spindle]

do u prefer clips on stacked bots who arent even facing u

[tender cradle]

isnt that most BF engagements?

[rich torrent]

Which makes it not impressive.

[sturdy spindle]

i have better aim than u while sliding jumping, that is the purpose

[twin horizon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/annoyed-face-11

[marble stag]

I can't post my full clips without editing lol

[humble trench]

grats on the ePeen points :P

[twin horizon]

these cod refugees i tell ya

[marble stag]

I record in 4k 144fps, first world issue

[sturdy spindle]

u can downsize it

[humble trench]

handbrake is easy to use

[marble stag]

I know, i can record at lesser too but that isn't nice if you ever want to edit

[humble trench]

it has presets and u can adjust from there to make sub 10mb clips for discord

[marble stag]

Even just recording one match gets me gigabytes upon gigabytes of footage lol

[tired flower]

Record at a lower resolution then

[marble stag]

I just enable shadowplay playback

[tender cradle]

the bar is pretty low, only need 2-3 kills per life to be above average...

[marble stag]

Not as nice for editing

[tired flower]

Fair enough

[chrome wing]

So, what's the conclusion, is the game in a bad state or no?

[tender cradle]

not great, not terrible

[rich torrent]

Which again, has nothing to do with my comment.

You're just spewing out words for the sake of talking at this point.

[sturdy spindle]

its in a bad state for battlefield players

[twin horizon]

its a good game just in a bad state at the moment with the hit reg and netcode

[chrome wing]

Because maps are tight?

[sturdy spindle]

and the movement is nice

[marble stag]

I hate ttk on longer ranges

[tender cradle]

youre just significantly out of touch lol

To you, a 2.4 kd is not impressive, single or double kills (which is all you need to be above average) is not impressive.

[twin horizon]

knew she was a cod refugee lmao cod was garbage this year huh. lmao i have no problem with yall im a cod players myself its just that nasty ego calm it

[marble stag]

2.4 KD is well over double average

[rich torrent]

2.4 is not impressive enough to be accusing all hit reg issues on bad aim, which again - is the topic at hand.

[sturdy spindle]

there was no ego until u said im acting like top 100, but ppls bad aim is not my problem i used to use similar excuses when i sucked

[twin horizon]

K/D doesnt matter in BF when i cant camp in a tank or heli and increase my K/D there are many ways to play like a b*tch and get a good KD

[sturdy spindle]

remaster brought up kd

[rich torrent]

Majority of vehicle players are bad - it isn't free KD to most.

[marble stag]

Headshot damage needs a bit of a buff without ammo type.

[twin horizon]

its whatever im not gonna argue over it on a public discord like children lmao if you dont think the game has bad hit reg and netcode oh well idc

[tender cradle]

is there a clip of bad hit registration where aim did not play a factor?

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl why u did him like that

[tender cradle]

genuine question

[rich torrent]

On literally every platform?

What do you guys not understand about a graph in game that shows client v server side hits?

There is literally no arguing with factual information available to all who play the game.

[sturdy spindle]

i have corrected too many ppls aim, they stopped complaining about spread and hit reg after i fixed it

[tender cradle]

because even in a video about hit reg, most involved aim or timing

[tender cradle]

show, because all can be explained by 1) bad aim, or 2) timing. You're either missing, or shooting too late because you already died server side.

[sturdy spindle]

we need a video of good aim on static target and the bullets straight up missing

[tender cradle]

it sucks because people that do have good aim, sometimes just get rng-ed

[rich torrent]

Brother, you genuinely have no idea how the hit reg graph works.

[sturdy spindle]

bro playing with that graph a lil too much

[humble trench]

bruh, who the f plays the game with the hit reg graph enabled 24/7 and recording on top of tht

[tender cradle]

K lol

[rich torrent]

Because it is factual hit reg information. Opinions are irrelevant.

[twin horizon]

thats what you dont understand either youre a close range player there barely any bloom. people who play mid to long range are the ones dealing with the issue

[sturdy spindle]

i full auto ppl across the map with bad spread guns and still dont miss, im not saying its skill issue but theres a big accuracy control diff

[humble trench]

bloom doesnt affect u? neat :P

[sturdy spindle]

yea i have good gun build

[humble trench]

sure u use a tr7 past 50 meters effectively

[sturdy spindle]

tr7 is cheeks

[humble trench]

u just said u can control it

[sturdy spindle]

sweats dont main that gun

[modest jackal]

The TR-7 is sort of The Potential Man of Battlefield 6.

[marble stag]

If bloom wasn't in the game, and weapons had more decent bullet drop/damage falloff. Shee.

My kd would double and a half

[rich torrent]

I'd rather 20x more recoil and no bloom than what we have now.

[twin horizon]

exactly lmao. not saying they gotta make like cod where its just laserbeams with zero skill but tweak it make it like BF1 or BF4

[noble sparrow]

i forgot to clip it but i had a moment last week where i put 15 shots center mass into a stationary guy and got zero hit markers

that might be something worse than hit reg though, could be a server issue

[twin horizon]

its a mixture of all

[noble sparrow]

also i have seen compilations of guys putting perfectly aimed sniper shots into people and gettingg nothing

[amber belfry]

its lowkey kinda mid

[twin horizon]

exactly, but these ego ridden players who say nothing but cqc will say skill issue

[amber belfry]

same, i love recoil patterns. rewards skill more

[noble sparrow]

on console you can use the TR7 effectively full auto to about 40m with classic very grip and long suppressor, i enjoy it a lot

[sturdy spindle]

the average meta gun in this game only has recoil pattern to worry about, unless ur gun build is bad, there really isnt much spread

dont believe in the blue laser propaganda

[upbeat spade]

Good morning. How big is your forehead today

[twin horizon]

geez dude is that all yall care about META META META META META META.

[rich torrent]

Calling skill issues but maining a meta weapon screams skill issue in itself tbh.

[sturdy spindle]

are u saying bad guns with bad stats are what make up the whole game

[amber belfry]

meta is kinda irrelevent in a game like this. every single kill will shred with a decent build (besides the db12)

[twin horizon]

try telling that to the cod refugee above u

[sturdy spindle]

meta is definitely not irrelevant in this game, its worse than cod rn

theres a select few guns that absolutely shred the rest of the cast

[amber belfry]

and a skilled person will shred regardless

[twin horizon]

NO IT IS NOT LMAO!

[tribal zodiac]

Lmao i was averaging 3+ kpm earlier only using the m357 in bt

[marble stag]

Meta is relevant in any game, meta is the best available at a given time lol.

[sturdy spindle]

so what happens when ppl of equal skill are against each other

[noble sparrow]

the only one that gets my goat is the SCW10, thing does need a nerf. every other "meta" gun seems fine to me

[amber belfry]

okay but that pistol is so so so much fun. im using it rn since my m44 has been lvl 50 for a few weeks

[amber belfry]

unles hes using a db12 usually its whoever shoots first wins.

[sturdy spindle]

cod gun ttk are much closer to each other while handling near similar, there is massive ttk difference in bf6 among the guns

[wraith canopy]

Guess the better weapon wins then huh? Lol

[sturdy spindle]

[noble sparrow]

TTK is so short in this game though it's mostly about whoever shoots first and misses least 90% of the time

[amber belfry]

range, positioning and whoever is shooting first, very depending

[twin horizon]

let me guess your first cod was mw2 (2022)

[tribal zodiac]

Its still a pistol lol

[sturdy spindle]

if ur sg553 with 167ms ttk against a b36a4, guess whos getting shredded

[amber belfry]

hipfire spamming that thing goes crazy

[plucky moon]

I need help understanding something

[sturdy spindle]

ah hell nawl

[twin horizon]

it all depends on playstyle dude. you play like a sweaty warzone player anygun can play like that

[noble sparrow]

the b36 player only has to start firing 80ms faster than you to win though, which happens all the time

[tribal zodiac]

You because i dont miss

[river cypress]

how come it won’t let me text in gauntlent

[sturdy spindle]

only 80ms is crazy

[wraith canopy]

Not really. I win so often if i play the sg and get shot first lol

[noble sparrow]

yeah i know that's a lot in high-level comp games, but in a game like this it's not that big of a deal

[twin horizon]

yup

[sturdy spindle]

ppl already complain about the difference between 167ms guns against 220ms, and ur out here adding a whole 80ms more

[noble sparrow]

BF6 is ultra casual, people aren't slamming ultra accurate shots into each other over and over at fast reaction speeds

[sturdy spindle]

that dont mean meta and ttk difference doesnt exist

[noble sparrow]

no but it means the player base doesn't give a shit

[wraith canopy]

Its arcade thats all. It can be played competitive tho

[amber belfry]

the argument was people of equal skill. if you can 180 someone they are a trashbin

[sturdy spindle]

the playerbase has cried way too much about smgs and other guns

[noble sparrow]

sure, and comp BF sounds cool, but it's not that kind of game. it doesn't have a real comp scene

[humble trench]

should still play meta guns for that 80 milliseconds, just in case the server gets confused lol, even then ive had SO many situations with identical weapons head to head shooting at the exact same time but theyre left with half hp. its... fun

[twin horizon]

thats what gets me cracking that these cod players come to BF6 thinking its something impressive when half the playerbase are casual players dont really care bout sweating and movement and playing like a cod player where every match even a casual match feels like a comp

[wraith canopy]

I mean a 1v1 battle right in the face

[rose inlet]

Cold

[sturdy spindle]

if bf6 playerbase didnt care about sweatiness, zero complaints would exist

[noble sparrow]

to be clear, i'm a sweat in my games though, i just think it's fun to sweat

[sturdy spindle]

why we lying to ourselves

[tender cradle]

unlucky, wish I could see it.

[upbeat spade]

Kimiyah why we arguing here 🤦‍♂️

[wraith canopy]

Well it's not like bf4 back in the day where clans dominated some server, true lol

[sturdy spindle]

hey if i were a casual, would i ever bring up hitreg

[noble sparrow]

yeah i wish i clipped it to confirm it wasn't just me perceiving it wrong

also personally i just find discussions of game balance to be pretty boring. everyone already knows what's good and what isn't, it's a solved game.

[twin horizon]

thats the thing they dont and all of us arent casuals cause were here on a discord in the first place.

[tender cradle]

it's not that I dont believe hit registration issues dont exist, it's that's it's always used as a fall back to explain the unexplainable.

[wraith canopy]

No cause you wouldn't notice it at all probably lol

[sturdy spindle]

u kinda just turned on ur own point then

[sturdy spindle]

a real casual plays console on a sofa 30 meters away from their 60hz tv

[marble stag]

I’m a casual

[noble sparrow]

https://youtu.be/HIFOQBO8tjE?t=47

This video has tons of hit reg examples in it

[marble stag]

But i don’t fit that description

[sturdy spindle]

maybe u just want to believe that

[marble stag]

[wraith canopy]

Totally wrong lol now you ragebating huh xD
There are competitive clans on console as well like on hell let loose with tournaments and stuff

[sturdy spindle]

thats not the same, i said couch and tv, competitive ppl are definitely on monitors

[twin horizon]

we were just talking bout the state of the game and made it into a while issue about skill and casualness

[sturdy spindle]

this guys out here missing firing range targets i think he has bigger problems

[noble sparrow]

the firing range targets do not register hits but that's a bug i think

the video is just showing bugs as well, not just hit reg

[twin horizon]

lmao thats right even the target range target dont even register half the times lmao

[sturdy spindle]

also that video has an awful amount of missed shots

[noble sparrow]

yeah but it has 100% confirmed hit reg misses in it

[sturdy spindle]

bros playing with a scoped revolver thinking hes nice or something

[fiery oxide]

Firing range is just 30hz

[tender cradle]

first one was funny

[noble sparrow]

yeah he gets no hits like 5x in a row and his buddy comes up and deletes the guy

[fiery oxide]

I use a 5x on the m44 and snipe with it

It's pretty fun tbh

[wraith canopy]

Was wondering if i take a truck with the BF pro radio on: can hear other players also hear it by just walking around it like me?

[marble stag]

Snipers' and DMR's shots disappear on death too right?

[fiery oxide]

No you can kill trade

[noble sparrow]

you ever see that video of two snipers' bullets hitting each other? had no idea there was bullet collision in the game

[sturdy spindle]

have u ever had a leaf block ur scope

[noble sparrow]

not yet but i've seen a video of it

[cursive temple]

Yes if they have music activeted

[wraith canopy]

Heard you can shoot grenades in the air as well lol

[noble sparrow]

you can, i've died to it

[wraith canopy]

Alright ty

[noble sparrow]

you can shoot mines in people's hands too and they explode

[wraith canopy]

Lmao

[marble stag]

I've had bushes block my projectiles, but conveniently not the projectiles of the person shooting me

[noble sparrow]

you can shoot RPGs that are coming at you also, i've saved myself by doing it twice

[wraith canopy]

Oh that explains a lot lol

[amber belfry]

plywood to

can we change reticle colors yet

[marble stag]

Yeah.

[amber belfry]

where did they hide the setting

[noble sparrow]

HUD

[marble stag]

But at times it's still bad, they're still washed out.
HUD > Recticle/crosshair

[languid mural]

u can do it with nades too which is crazy

cuz u can throw a nade -> shoot it
very inconsistent but if you just try one two bullets u might get a free kill once every while

[amber belfry]

thx

[noble sparrow]

that's actually a funny idea. if you were totally cracked you could airburst them

[languid mural]

true, tho the indicator is iffy

[noble sparrow]

i couldn't pull that off in a million years, i'm a 4kd console plebian

[languid mural]

I mean u can always do grenade + exploding it with grenade launcher for omega explosion

(still gonna do 90 hp)

[amber belfry]

if somones holding a mine they explode to... jihad run into a house and if they hit it kaboom

[languid mural]

LOL

tho I dont recommend using grenade launcher rn, if youre too close and u direct hit someone it just eats the projectile for whatever reason

[noble sparrow]

hah yeah 90 damage grenade launcher hits make me rage

[amber belfry]

i miss the beta feature where rpgs didnt explode point blank

but you could hit someone in the chest and it would just go THUD and they would die

[humble trench]

u mean they promised features and stripped them post launch? dice would never

[amber belfry]

it was changed because people did not understand that rpgs are like that

[noble sparrow]

seems like they made that change intentionally for balance reasons

oh was that why? lmao that's stupid

[hot hawk]

anyone here a redsec player and make loadouts for guns you have only to like level 20 or do you wait to unlock every attachment?

[amber belfry]

it still 1 taps point black to the chest. it just explodes now

[worldly trail]

Cough portal cough cough

[humble trench]

bring back loading screen tips, and enforce a minimum loading time of a minute so people learn a fucking thing or two for once lol

[languid mural]

u can change the loadout each unlock, dont worry about it hahah

[humble trench]

i regret chatting here while my mirak game started, i guess ill /off myself and spawn mid

[hot hawk]

wym?

[hot hawk]

yeah lets not make ppl wait longer for games tf

[languid mural]

I mean, I dont see why would you wait for anything since u can just change it at any time

[humble trench]

what are u talking about, we wait minutes to start a game anyway smartass :P

point is, ignore idiots, keep the rpg as it is

and good lord the netcode is horrific during a weekend, i wonder why that is

[hot hawk]

I use wzstats.gg to find good meta and they let you sort it by level.

[worldly trail]

Meta schmeta

[wraith canopy]

Do you really think they would read anything? Most would just switch to their phone until the game begins lmao

[noble sparrow]

tbf you do want to use meta loadouts for redsec even moreso than multiplayer

[humble trench]

literally just saw someone throw an incendiary nade on the ground, and my teammate ran away from it before it exploded in fire, then he caught fire while he was 12 meters away

[noble sparrow]

redsec will punish you more for using something stupid than MP does

[humble trench]

today the netcode is on vacation, it needs an extra 0.5-2.5 seconds to calculate things

[languid mural]

"the meta" just look what kills you the most, which in redsec is snipers/dmrs/KTS

[hot hawk]

yeah true

[noble sparrow]

i haven't fw it in red sec yet but what abour the SOR-556? i've been using it in MP since im running out of guns to master and it's kinda good

[worldly trail]

What gun yall get killed by the most? I would have to say it's the DRS for me.

[noble sparrow]

feels like it would be good in red sec since it's like a KTS with better handling

[noble sparrow]

i think the DRS is -slightly- overrated despite being a good gun

[languid mural]

idk, havent tested it myself, havent died to it much, probably is solid

[hot hawk]

the issue is guns take so long to level up. I want at least one good gun for each class on redsec

[worldly trail]

I mean you can also not care about the meta and still perform adequately

[hot hawk]

I use it

[noble sparrow]

if you're doing one for each class than imo you want like, mini scout, KTS, SCW-10, and whichever AR is your fav. for me it's the Kord

i've been ripping people up in red sec with the TR7, but it's a very short range gun for red sec

[worldly trail]

The SCW feels too cracked lol

[noble sparrow]

it's busted. i wiped a squad with it in like 15 seconds with it the other week

[worldly trail]

It's fun though

[hot hawk]

@noble sparrow also running out of weapons to level up how

[worldly trail]

Yeah I bet lol

[hot hawk]

the sgx is good too and I think more ammo in clip

[noble sparrow]

i have like 400 hours in multiplayer and i get a lot of kills

[worldly trail]

I don't even have the big magazine for SCW and still can dominate

[hot hawk]

I get shit on most games, idk my aim does kinda suck

[languid mural]

thats because SCW is the most busted gun in the game rn

[worldly trail]

Maybe sprint a tad less and aim around corners

[hot hawk]

I need to get the rpk to level 30 for the camo you unlock

[noble sparrow]

download aim labs and try to re-create your BF settings in the game. i did that and it helped me

[hot hawk]

im on xbox

[noble sparrow]

so am i, it's on xbox

[worldly trail]

I was so annoyed yesterday to find that your mastery camo isn't actually a camo. Its... a weapon package.

[noble sparrow]

Why's that? I think it's neat because you get custom attachments

[languid mural]

also guns give you mastery camos for all weapons at lvl 30

[worldly trail]

I just was losing my patience looking for it in the camos lol

[hot hawk]

@noble sparrow I sent a dm

[worldly trail]

Didn't realize it came with more attachments

Mastered the G36. It's solid

[hot hawk]

the black,white and red camo for getting the rpkm to level 30 is nice

im waiting for double weapon xp to use my tokens

[noble sparrow]

good idea, word on the skreets is that you get 4x if you do

[hot hawk]

tbh didnt feel that way

[worldly trail]

I'm guessing that they will never correct the faction visibility issue in this game. Pax and Nato have wildly varying color schemes

Loved how in BF4 for example, Russia had dark look, Americans had light, China had urban/naval look

[hot hawk]

barely 2 levels a game

yeah alot of times I cant see ppl

[hallow geode]

Wait you can actually get banned for saying ggez .... I've only ever said it when I lose and a flood of winning team enemies spam it lol

[worldly trail]

They have AI security I swear

[hallow geode]

Imma refrain from saying anything other than Hello in chat lol

[noble sparrow]

no waaay lmao come on

[sterile plover]

this game gonna die

[hallow geode]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1og6ynh/ea_suspension_no_game_updated_post_with_proof/?share_id=nCXUKkttelVIpYX0EaVrj&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

[noble sparrow]

the people who run game studios now are totally insane, they are completely disconnected from gaming culture

[sturdy spindle]

i say ggez every match and no ban

[hallow geode]

We ain't ever getting prox chat are we lol

[hot hawk]

anyone here not play on high sens?

[noble sparrow]

there's a weapon charm that says "EZ" on it in the game

[noble sparrow]

whats your sens? i'm 80 on controller

[hallow geode]

Yeah that's how I found the ban post. Someone was talking about the charm. So silly lol

[hot hawk]

50 lol

80 id be spinning 5 times trying to shoot someone

[noble sparrow]

i mean 50 is fine. it's not gonna make a huge difference in time to target at the end of the day

[hot hawk]

80 is wild

barely have to move ur stick

[noble sparrow]

idk i've just gotten used to it

i think doing aimlabs made it possible, i probably would have given up learning the muscle memory at that speed if i had to do it in game

[hot hawk]

true

@noble sparrow what mode you play to level up guns?

[sturdy spindle]

king of the hill

[noble sparrow]

i just play escalation 24/7 because i like the mode

[marble stag]

Snipers really need some suppression lol.

[noble sparrow]

imo they just need flinch

[marble stag]

Potato potato

[noble sparrow]

yeah basically. i do prefer flinch over suppression though, since flinch rewards good aim more

[crimson garden]

Hello friend.

Penguin is aware that EA has some form of a self repair system on lacking content on game restarts and re-connects, sometimes this usually takes 24 hours and some users reported it getting fixed after multiple weeks (The ''self fixing system'') is not always reliable. Penguin suggest you contact support directly if it takes longer than 24 hours and you're still missing the content, that's what EA suggest on their support page on the web 👉 🕸️

[marble stag]

This penguin guy is the single most annoying "person" in here.

[languid mural]

I got 16k, next person in my team got 9k score
I did not LOSE that game

[marble stag]

Too bad

[crimson garden]

Penguin actually here to help friends for a nice time! ❤️ And not to only brag about K/D ratings or complain about nice BF6 game! 😃 Penguin takes it as a compliment to be different friend, considering the general tradition & what's usually going on here in chat

[noble sparrow]

me and my buddy will top frag and get 15k+ score each and somehow we end up as third ranked squad. scroll down on the scoreboard and our squadmates are ranked like 28 and 30. happens constantly

[tribal zodiac]

Does anyone else keep getting randomly dc'd from the servers

[crimson garden]

Penguin can verify this happened once yesterday, but not today = not often

[candid oxide]

Not constantly, but it has happened sometimes

[tribal zodiac]

Its happened to me twice in an hour now

[obsidian notch]

who trynna play

[tribal zodiac]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[marble stag]

Yeah, you too bud

[tribal zodiac]

And i have to keep restarting every time it dc's me and it fucks up my stream when i restart lol

[marble stag]

Snipers need some counter, as they don't have any atm

Actual flinch/suppression on lmg's would finally give them a fucking purpose, and cut down on sniper camping.

Would be much easier because bfs have already established they suck at map design, so hoping for some tweaks against obvious sniper camping spots is a no go anyways

Wouldn't hurt the good snipers anyways, just weed out the annoying ones that just sit in bs spots.

[crimson garden]

Penguin finds KTS 100 to be fairly effective against those camping ones, it is sometimes a gamble if they are pretty decent at hitting, usually enough to make them move

[golden basin]

Suppression like on Bf3

[marble stag]

Penguin's opinion is irelevant as Penguin is a braindead bot.

[languid mural]

I think your take is irrelevant and braindead

[crimson garden]

Penguin make sure to report this kind of message, as it's too rude, good job friend

[languid mural]

"no counter" literally just shoot them?

bro every weapon in this game is basically pixel perfect accurate on first shot up to 150 meters

u can literally tap fire them with basically every weapon type

[marble stag]

Neat, too bad that first shot, or first four shots hit them and they remain perfectly accurate anyways and headshot you.

[languid mural]

if its beyond that maybe dont engage in that range? Im sure u can find cover in 200 meters

[marble stag]

Yep! It's really enjoyable when there's five of them.

[languid mural]

ye bro five snipers at their spawn is gonna hurt you if you play any objective

[marble stag]

Sure thing!

[twin horizon]

do ammo types even do anything?

[fiery oxide]

Yes

[twin horizon]

cause you would think the standard "FMJ" aka FULL METAL JACKET would penetrate wood but no

[marble stag]

They do, but pretty much a waste of points

[twin horizon]

cause that one area in oil fields with the tires stacked up cant even shoot through that with penetration rounds

[noble sparrow]

basically all of them are worth using in one situation or another

exception being hollow points are only good with certain guns/breakpoints

[robust knoll]

i'll use lightweight rounds if I have spare points with nothing else to use it on

[noble sparrow]

yeah they're cool. imo tungsten ammo is actually decent. it doesn't really increase your recoil by much at all

like if you do side by side recoil plots the diff is minimal

[robust knoll]

i'll give em a go next session 🚬

[twin horizon]

i need s2 now bro and i just hope we get more maps guns and gadgets, features & a overhaul with the main menu cause its so much like cod and its annoying

also why do they keep removing the battle pickups like tf was the point of adding them

[languid mural]

they added them, stealth removed them, stealth added them back for a patch

and now theyre gone again

[twin horizon]

yea i noticed that they dont communicate well with us

even with all the blogs and stuff

[languid mural]

idk maybe theyre just surprised no one wants to use reverse recoil minigun and worse than RPG whatever that was

[robust knoll]

too bad there isn't a official discord eh?

I've only seen former mods speak, no CMs

[twin horizon]

they were too common i will say that bf1 & bf4 battlepicks ups there were only 1-2 in the map and took a while to spawn in

[languid mural]

bro Im not surprised, with their current communications whatever dev starts speaking will get hounded
tho tbf Id rather have the situation that they have at LoL, at least one of the devs started being very vocal on twitter and everyone loves it (also bothers him for everything but oh well)

rn because of the general radio silence and how launch went -> ppl were complaining about things in beta, during closed tests with feedback forms etc and the feedbacks were thrown in the bin
it feels like no ones listening

[twin horizon]

i just bf6 to be stable its all i ask for theres a reason over 500k players dropped the game

now the game peaks at 70k on a good weekend

[noble sparrow]

if the average player dealt with the bugs i do they would 100% quit

i have to re-do all my settings virtually every single time i launch the game, it takes about 5 minutes

[twin horizon]

thats the thing they do they just really brush it off instead of being vocal about it

[twin horizon]

YEA BRO ITS EXHAUSTING

[noble sparrow]

yeah i've stopped adjusting my vehicle settings now because of how long it takes, i just dont use vehicles anymore

[twin horizon]

idk why its complicated for them to get their sh*t together also i dont understand why we had to wait for another season to drop for them to fix a fundamental concern with the game from hit reg to netcode to weapon balances something that shouldve been attended atleast by the winter offensive drop

[deft glen]

i dont know redsec can be so funny mode. But players there? god why. All are headless chickens

[noble sparrow]

yeah things like the pouch bug still being in the game at this stage is completely absurd

[deft glen]

also dmg there is so random. its like rolling dice. Pun intended

[twin horizon]

at the same time i dont blame dice when its EA that rushed their release and are ruining the game from behind the curtains as well

[noble sparrow]

incompetence is sadly the norm in the industry nowadays

[noble sparrow]

huh i find red sec to have a lot of good players typically

[twin horizon]

yea tell me about it my lmg does either 20 dmg or 25 at ranges like pick one

[noble sparrow]

lol i actually like the damage range brackets

[twin horizon]

yea buts random cause for some reason a smg could out win a lmg at ranges

[deft glen]

you can just run over claymores as they just take 1 shield. You can put 3-4 sniper rounds into somebody not killing him. But you will be deleted in 1 second

[noble sparrow]

well a SMG will never beat a LMG at long range if you hit your shots

[deft glen]

so maybe i am cursed bcs i really get 1 good player in team every 10-20 games

[noble sparrow]

ah yeah i'm playing with premade teams and we tend to run into really good opponents

[twin horizon]

well yea obviously but that fact a mp7 still has a good damage multiplier at long ranges is wierd

like it aint a AR or LMG

[noble sparrow]

yeah it's kinda weird but that's the MP7's entire gimmick, it's only good at long range

it's a horrible gun overall though

[deft glen]

what is not horrible in this game : P

[noble sparrow]

imo like 75% of every weapon class at a minimum is good

[vapid nova]

Anyone on ps5 tryna play some games? Got a mic

[twin horizon]

also last thing can dice please atleast make the "unstopable force" skins for the guns more shinny and worth grinding for like atleast make it more bronzy and shiny

[nova plover]

Has the bloom been fixed in the mean while? Havent played in like 2 months

[twin horizon]

nope

[noble sparrow]

i'd like to see them add another matery skin or two, like level 100 and 150

what do you mean by fixed? they fixed the bloom bugs afaik

[twin horizon]

yea but nothing like cod plz more like the ones form BF1 those were dope those were more believable gold

they had engravings and were worth getting

[noble sparrow]

yeah nothing too absurd. i like the current ones, something similar to the lvl 50 ones

[twin horizon]

the gold skins for BF1 absolute cinema right there

[fast goblet]

Why are the DMRs so bad in this game? I just got outgunned at 70m by an MP7

[twin horizon]

only the mk14 and the 3 dmr are good the rest need some rebalance cause theyre hot dog sh*t

[noble sparrow]

you shouldn't be, the SVK kills faster

[fast goblet]

I tried using the LMR and it was a 4 shot body shot. In what world should a DMR be 4 shotting

[fast goblet]

I'm using the Mk14 atm

[noble sparrow]

the LMR is just a goofball gun. it actually kills at normal speed for a DMR

[twin horizon]

the dragonov should be more like a dragonov and not whatever that is

[noble sparrow]

okay yeah that's your problem. that's the only DMR that doesn't outkill the MP7

though it does if you get one headshot and you're using hollow points

[fast goblet]

my point is though, none of them should be out killed by an smg at that range

[noble sparrow]

the MP7 is a huge outlier for SMGs though. it's a weird gun that's only good at medium-long range and really bad up close

the two best SMGs for TTK do less damage than it at long range

but at anything over 35m, all of the DMRs kill faster than any SMG except for the M39 EMR

not to mention, at like 75m+ the SMG player will miss one or two shots minimum, and you should miss zero, so you ought to clean them up if you both fire at the same time

[fast goblet]

unfortunately they didnt... I got absoluetly laser beamed

[noble sparrow]

yeah that can happen sometimes, but typically they miss a shot or two and you just don't notice because the gun fires like 15 times in a second

MP7 is definitely not a normal SMG though. it's like a shitty version of the Kord or something

[tribal zodiac]

Yes it has?

[tribal zodiac]

How about level 740

[floral oracle]

Where can I send clips to be used on TikTok? Here on the Discord channel?

[noble sparrow]

that would be sick ngl

game does feel rushed for the fact there aren't more mastery skins. imo would have helped player retention to 2x the attachment grind speed and give out more mastery skins

[tribal zodiac]

739 i guess, i plan on getting it to level 1000 at some point

[lofty raven]

ARs and most Carbines still have bad bloom, no reason to use them when SMGs are more accurate at the same range

[noble sparrow]

Which gun btw? I think my highest is 70. I've been trying to get everything to 50

[tribal zodiac]

ESR

[noble sparrow]

They kill much faster than SMGs, you just have to keep them on target

[lofty raven]

bloom makes it so it doesn't matter if you're "on target" though. You have to get lucky with the spread when SMGs for the most part have a significantly tighter spread. So despite having a significant damage drop off you can hit more shots compared to an AR or most Carbines at medium/ long range in my experience.

[tribal zodiac]

Ok good?

[noble sparrow]

I don't find the bloom to be excessive enough inside of 80m to give any advantage to SMGs at all

[tribal zodiac]

I dont want to get lasered across the map every 2.5 seconds

[noble sparrow]

like the Kord is a laser beam and has a faster TTK than every SMG in the game after like 35m

[lofty raven]

bloom should still be tighter in the 50-75m range imo. Plus, kind of a non-issue when snipers exist with (essentially) zero bloom and can just "lazer" you across the map lol

[lofty raven]

Maybe i just lack the spread attachments for it but I am not a fan of the Kord personally lmao

[noble sparrow]

i just can't think of a time i've ever lost a fight to a SMG because of bloom rather than poor recoil control

the kord with heavy barrel basically shoots a rope of bullets with no spread

[lofty raven]

Im not a fan of the stickiness when shooting while ADS'ing, and the recoil pattern of it pulling to the left is annoying but that might just be a me thing

[noble sparrow]

if you're firing long strings without heavy barrel against SMGs you will lose to them due to bloom though

[lofty raven]

I find i can win fights with my UMG-40 at range pretty handly compared to ARs

[noble sparrow]

but you'll lose to any gun if you do that typically

[noble sparrow]

if you're doing that it's because the AR player is worse than you

[lean patrol]

when are devs going to add the option for pc to turn off crossplay?

[noble sparrow]

the SOR-556 is widely thought to be among the worst ARs in the game and it outkills the UMG-40 easily, 10/10 times

[lofty raven]

im usually within the top 3 of any game for kills so I definitely condier myself generally a good player for kills/ kd

[noble sparrow]

yeah that can make a lot of mid guns seem better than they are

[lofty raven]

i whole heatedly disagree im ngl, SOR has good spread but the UMG is literally a laser. It has the tightest spread and easiest recoil of any automatic gun i have used in the game

[noble sparrow]

the SOR has basically perfect accuracy for any distance you care to use it at. it will not lose a fight to the UMG

[lofty raven]

i can beam people with it at 100m+ pretty easily

and it's a headshot machine, not that headshots really matter much

[noble sparrow]

it takes nearly a full second to kill someone at 75m with a UMG, almost 50% slower than the SOR

[tender narwhal]

SMG apologists 🗣️

[amber belfry]

is the umg more of a beam than the 205?

[noble sparrow]

i think SMGs are good, but i think because they're so easy to use that players overrate them. to me they seem fine. for context i have about 500 hrs and a typical KD of around 4.5

[lofty raven]

SOR bloom is gonna make it a game of luck though, 75+ especially. Even with the relatively tighter spread compared to the ARs i think it's hard to imagine you're hitting every shot to make it 50% quicker compared to the UMG where i can hit 7/8 shots at the same range

[modest jackal]

SOR-556 Vs AK-205 Vs UMG-40: The battle of Mediocrity.

[noble sparrow]

i simply disagree, the SOR does not have enough bloom to miss shots at 75m, you can test it in the range

[lofty raven]

I only think the are handly the best gun class next to some LMGs because of the state of bloom for the ARs and most carbines

[lofty raven]

valid, and like the Kord i just might not have the build to experience what you're talking about. Ive pretty much ignored the ARs completely other than ironically the SOR but i only have that to maybe lvl 20

[noble sparrow]

there are a number of ARs which i can trivially easily hit a player-killing number of shots in succession at 75 meters in the practice range reliably

[modest jackal]

The problem with the SOR-556 (The Scar-L) is the fact it has the same Damage Drop-Off Points as most of the Assault Rifles.

[noble sparrow]

it's not a "good gun" but it's fun in its niche

i use it with synthetics and basically it's like a KTS for use on blackwell fields or firestorm

[modest jackal]

Even if the L85A3 is mostly better. Same with the SL9 sweeping the UMG-40.

[noble sparrow]

i actually went 68-8 with the SOR-556 on cairo on the double XP weekend

but you have to play it like it's a DMR

[noble sparrow]

the SL9 enrages me for some reason lol. such a dogshit fake gun design. also that it's used by players who can't aim

[gloomy oracle]

uh no

the whole point of the SL9 is to beam people in the head with synthetic rounds, making the TTK sub 200ms. THat's its whole niche

[noble sparrow]

that's not who's using it 99% of the time though, it's players who can't even do enough recoil control to use the mp5

[tender narwhal]

I can't aim and I don't use the SL9 D:

[noble sparrow]

actual head-clicking synthetic ammo enjoyers is like a tiny % of the player base

[gloomy oracle]

whole arguement is silly slow fire rate guns have less bloom, but its also a fact SMG's don't have a lot of bloom either esepically with some attachments. I abuse this 100%. It's the same how sniper rifles and recon is currently easy broken cause of sweet spot and map design

[tender narwhal]

less bloom on slow ROF lol

[gloomy oracle]

is the mp5 better thent he sl9? probably

[tender narwhal]

actually I guess I'm tunnelvisioning on the exception that is the ak4d

[noble sparrow]

AK4D has fine bloom w/ heavy barrel imo

[tender narwhal]

it's a weird gun

[noble sparrow]

it's one of my fav ARs

[gloomy oracle]

well not LMG's that shit is broken, but generally that's how it is right now on most guns. AK4D bloom is not actuall bad. You can see in test range with just angle grip. If anything slow fire rate guns feel bad cause lag comp and netcode are currently making you miss 8% of your bullets

[twin horizon]

thats cause the game was rushed EA pushed their release. EA ruins everything

[tender narwhal]

LMGs broken in which way

[tender narwhal]

if that 8% thing on slow ROF is true that would explain a lot

[twin horizon]

the bloom and hit reg i would know i main LMGS have all of them over lvl 50 lmgs needs buffs

execpt a selective few

[noble sparrow]

imo the LMGs are great, i have no complaints

[gloomy oracle]

its 8% on all guns, so high fire rate bulelt hooses feel better cause more bullets out. So anything over 720rpm feels solid. everything under sometime will feel horrid

[noble sparrow]

wish the RPK had less bloom though, since it's a synthetic gun

[twin horizon]

could be better like suppression should be better on LMGS

[gloomy oracle]

as for LMG's i guess they have more bloom cause most are design to be mounted? (other poeple did this testin) but who mounts in BF6 right now cause of snipers are broken int eh current engagement ranges? No flinch or visual suppression penatlies like some older games.

[twin horizon]

that the thing tho the bipods suck